0:01 thank you for joining the Jackson
0:03 laboratories presentation on protector
0:06 research no your be six miles my name is
0:08 Peter Kelman s'en and I've been with
0:10 technical information services at the
0:15 Jackson laboratory for over 11 years c57
0:18 black 6 or b 6 inbred mice the most
0:19 commonly used mice in biomedical
0:22 research this inbred strain is the most
0:24 well characterized the first to have its
0:26 entire genome sequenced and is the
0:27 genetic background strain of choice for
0:30 most targeted mutations and transgenics
0:32 the universal acceptance and demand for
0:34 B 6 mice has necessitated their
0:36 production from multiple sources
0:38 introducing genetic and phenotypic
0:40 variability that has very important
0:42 consequences for accurately interpreting
0:45 and repeating research results so if we
0:48 just did a quick exercise and just
0:50 looking at these three mice Mouse trains
0:52 if I were to ask you which of these two
0:55 are genetically the most similar a and B
0:59 B and C or a and C most of you would
1:01 likely answer B and C as they both look
1:03 like c57 black 6 mice they're both black
1:07 however it turns out that actually a and
1:10 B are the most genetically similar the
1:12 strain a is a mutation that arose in the
1:15 colony of c57 black 6 J that makes them
1:17 I cell by now but it's a single gene
1:21 mutation while as the c57 black 6 J
1:24 which is a picture B and the c57 black 6
1:27 and J my switches picture see those two
1:29 strains have been separated since 1951
1:31 and they differ in many different
1:32 mutations that are involved in
1:35 metabolism neural biology immunology
1:38 vision hearing as well as behavior and
1:40 that's really the heart of what I want
1:42 to talk to you about today is is really
1:44 knowing what black 6 sub strain of mice
1:46 you were using so that you can best
1:48 interpret your data just as another
1:50 example to drive that home in that coat
1:51 color is not actually a very good
1:53 indicator of genetic background these
1:55 are almost strains that are all c57
1:57 black 6 J backgrounds and not only do we
1:59 have the albino ones but we have revert
2:02 ins to a GU T beige the dominant
2:05 spotting phenotype so all five of these
2:07 strains are all c57 black state
2:08 backgrounds but they all have a
2:10 different coat color so again coat color
2:12 is not a very good indicator of genetic back
2:12 back
2:14 ground really you would actually have to
2:16 survey the the actual genome really to
2:18 determine which strains are most closely
2:21 related the Jackson Laboratory we do
2:24 have two substrates of c57 black 6 we
2:26 have both the c57 black 6 J which is our
2:28 stock is zero zero zero six sixty four
2:32 and the c57 black 6 NJ which is our
2:34 stock is zero zero five three zero four
2:36 both of those colonies are maintained at
2:38 a high health status they're very well
2:40 characterized strains some of the most
2:42 published strains that you can find and
2:44 we have extensive phenotypic data
2:46 available as well as consistent data
2:49 reproducibility which I will talk to you
2:50 a little bit later when I get into it
2:53 discussing our GSP program before we
2:55 start to talk about different sub
2:57 strains of c57 black 6 we really need to
2:59 look at the origin of the c57 black 6
3:02 inbred strain itself to help understand
3:04 the genetics of that before we can talk
3:07 about the genetics of substrates so back
3:10 in the early part of the 1900s is and
3:13 earlier there was a lot of people who
3:14 sort of raised mice they were called
3:17 most fanciers they raised mice they had
3:19 different interesting coat colors or
3:21 different phenotypes and and they would
3:23 trade them amongst each other or sell
3:25 them and one of them her name was Abbie
3:27 Lathrop and she was in Massachusetts and
3:29 she had she provided mice to the Bussey
3:32 Institute at Harvard University and was
3:35 also about that time that geneticists
3:37 really realized that mice were an ideal
3:39 model organism for studying mammalian
3:41 genetics I mean they're small they're
3:43 easy to maintain they generally have
3:45 really good reproductive performance and
3:47 their anatomy and physiology was very
3:50 similar to that of humans and then again
3:52 really at the beginning of the 20th
3:55 century dr. William castle started using
3:57 mice from Abbie Lathrop as well as a lot
3:59 of other people and he again was at the
4:01 bus the Institute in Harvard and then
4:03 shortly they're late after that one of
4:05 his students he see little who was the
4:07 founder of the Jackson Laboratory he
4:09 began in breeding those mouse stocks as
4:12 a student of dr. castle and really of
4:13 course that is the initial inbreeding
4:15 which led to a lot of the classical
4:17 inbred strains that we have today and in
4:19 1921 tsetse little got some of mammy
4:22 lathers pet shop stock in this case it
4:24 was a mouse train that has a waltzer
4:26 phenotype it's a mutation that sort of
4:28 the spinning dancing behavior and when
4:30 he made it female number 57 two
4:32 different males he ended up getting
4:35 black mice and the other he got brown
4:37 mice and as he started to inbred there
4:40 was a mutation arose in the brown colony
4:42 that led to a legend or gray phenotype
4:44 and so as those mice were inbred they
4:46 were called c57 because was female
4:49 number 57 and then BL for black BR for
4:52 brown and L for lead as simple as that
4:54 so the way inbred mouse strains are
4:56 generated is by brother-sister mating
4:59 every generation so the progeny of your
5:01 initial cross which are the f1 hybrids
5:03 that generation you take a brother and
5:05 sister you breed them together to
5:07 produce f2 mice again you take a brother
5:09 or sister and you make them together to
5:11 produce f3 mice and then you would keep
5:13 on doing that and after 20 generations
5:15 you would generate an inbred mouse
5:17 strain and with inbred mice all the
5:19 individuals are virtually genetically
5:21 identical so you have a high degree of
5:23 genetic homogeneity and the mice are
5:25 homozygous at virtually every locus and
5:27 that way with that high degree of
5:30 homogeneity you're gonna have a high
5:33 degree of statistical reproducibility so
5:35 if you take a group of inbred mice and
5:36 you give them one treatment and you take
5:38 another group of the same inbred strain
5:39 and you give them a different treatment
5:42 or no treatment any of the differences
5:43 you see are going to be due to the
5:45 treatment not due to underlying genetic
5:47 differences as well as if you then
5:50 introduce mutations or transgenes
5:51 the mice that have the mutation are
5:54 transient as compared to mice that don't
5:56 because they're otherwise genetically
5:58 identical any differences you see will
5:59 be due to the presence of the
6:01 transgender that or the mutation not
6:03 again underlying genetic differences
6:06 that makes inbred mouse strains a very
6:09 very powerful tool for studying genetics
6:12 when you are working with inbred mouse
6:13 strains there are really two things that
6:15 you need to make sure you're very well
6:17 aware of you need to understand the
6:19 basic genetics and mutations and
6:20 phenotypes of the inbred strain in
6:22 general and then as you see coming up
6:25 you also need to understand what sub
6:26 strain of that inbred strain you are
6:29 using and what mutations and phenotypes
6:31 might be specific to that sub strain
6:33 that way you can best interpret your
6:35 results correctly I'll give you an example
6:36 example
6:38 all c57 black 6 sub strains carry a
6:39 mutation in a
6:41 called kid here in 23 known as the
6:44 age-related hearing loss or AHL mutation
6:47 therefore all c57 black 6 mike says they
6:49 get older they will start to lose some
6:51 of their hearing and this of course is
6:52 going to cause a complication
6:54 interpreting data that you have that
6:56 influences diseases or phenotypes that
6:58 involve hearing and neurobiology
7:01 for example phenotypic analysis of genes
7:02 that are implicated in cognitive
7:05 behavior like fear conditioning and
7:07 older mice will require an auditory cue
7:09 which could be problematic than using
7:12 c57 black 6 mice and this mutation can
7:14 infect lots of researchers including
7:16 autism anxiety and stress disorders
7:18 addiction and cardiovascular functions
7:20 so it's really critical that you
7:23 understand the basic mutations and
7:25 phenotypes of the inbred strains you are
7:28 using but then you also need to look at
7:31 the sub strains and realize that sub
7:32 strains can develop relatively quickly
7:35 and so one has a sub strain when a
7:38 colony is separated by 20 or more
7:41 generations or phenotypic or genetic
7:43 differences are discovered and it's
7:45 relatively quick to generate these sub
7:48 strains so if you have a c57 black 6
7:50 parental colony and lab a gets those
7:51 mice and breeds them for 10 generations
7:55 and lab B gets the same mice and breeds
7:57 them for 20 generations those two
8:00 generations add up and the mice held by
8:01 lab and lab B are actually 30
8:04 generations apart so it can actually go
8:08 a lot quicker than you expect and see
8:09 see little who founded the Jackson
8:11 Laboratory and also the one who created
8:15 the c57 black 6 inbred strain and since
8:17 he was at the Jackson laboratory the c57
8:19 black 6 J then is the parental colony
8:24 but between 1930 and 1970 see see little
8:27 sent many of those c57 black mice to
8:29 researchers and institutions around the
8:30 world because he truly believed that an
8:33 important part of research is sharing
8:36 resources to make that research more
8:38 robust and so he certainly did that and
8:41 then you can see that many different c57
8:43 black 6 sub strains have been
8:46 established around the world and in 1951
8:48 some of the black 6j mice were sent to
8:51 nih and they became the black 6n mice
8:53 those are the two sub strains I'm going
8:53 to talk
8:55 a lot of it about today because those
8:56 are probably the most two commonly used
9:00 sub strains of c57 black 6 that are used
9:03 in biomedical research so in addition to
9:06 the c57 black 6 j sub strain and the c57
9:08 black 6 and sub strain the jackson
9:10 laboratory actually has additional sub
9:12 strains that have been in various places
9:14 and and what you'll find is everything
9:16 after the 6 is going to be the substrate
9:18 designation and that's going to use
9:21 laboratory codes the J is the laboratory
9:23 code for the jackson laboratory and is
9:26 the laboratory for the nih and then you
9:27 can see that for example we also have
9:31 the c57 black 6 h aj which went to a dr.
9:32 Hauschka and then came to the jackson
9:35 laboratory the byj had gone to dr.
9:36 bailey and then the jackson laboratory
9:39 and then the e IJ went to dr. Iker and
9:41 then back to the jackson laboratory and
9:43 then of course the j is at the end of
9:44 all those because we are the lab that is
9:47 currently maintaining the strain and if
9:49 you are interested in tracing laboratory
9:50 codes there is this link at the bottom
9:52 of the page to the Institute for
9:54 laboratory animal research or I'll are
9:57 you can look up any lab code or request
9:59 a lab coat of your own if you do need
10:01 those and I've mentioned a couple times
10:03 now already that not all c57 black 6
10:06 substrates are the same and that they
10:08 will differ genetically in a variety of
10:10 ways whether it be single nucleotide
10:12 polymorphisms or snips there can be
10:14 insertions deletions also known as in
10:16 Dells there could be copy number
10:18 variation either due to duplications of
10:20 regions of the chromosomes and all of
10:21 these would be some more and more
10:24 spontaneous mutations and these genetic
10:26 differences can translate into
10:28 phenotypic differences between different
10:31 c57 black 6 sub strains they can affect
10:33 a variety of phenotypes including those
10:35 in metabolism and I'll give you some
10:38 examples from neurobiology immunology
10:40 and others as well so here's a an
10:44 example of comparing how the c57 black 6
10:47 j and the c57 black 6 NJ mice respond to
10:50 a high respond to a high-fat diet also
10:53 known as diet induced obesity or do in
10:56 this case the mice were fed a 60 kcal
10:57 percent high-fat diet
11:00 starting at 6 weeks of age and as you
11:02 can see on the graph at the right this
11:05 c57 black 6 j mice gain more weight than
11:07 the c57 black 6 and
11:09 but I'd like you to imagine a scenario
11:12 well let's say you had a mutation or
11:14 trans gene on a c57 black 6 background
11:17 and you put them on a high-fat diet and
11:19 what if your data sort of came in
11:22 between those two graphs well if you
11:23 were comparing your data to that for the
11:25 black 6j if that's what you were using
11:27 as controls that would indicate that
11:29 your mutation or tran gene had reduced
11:32 the amount of fat put on but if you were
11:35 using c57 black 6 and jameise you may
11:37 then believe that your mutation or transient
11:38 transient
11:40 increase the amount of fat so depending
11:42 on the control that you use the way in
11:44 which you interpret your data will
11:45 differ and that's why it's really
11:47 critical to understand not only what
11:49 stream you're using but what substrain
11:52 of c57 black 6 are you are using so you
11:54 can properly interpret your data and
11:57 share that with the world here's again
11:58 another example from the same reference
12:01 comparing a glucose tolerance test
12:04 between c57 black 6 j and the black 6 NJ
12:07 also on a high fat diet and glucose
12:09 tolerance test really measures the
12:11 ability of the mice to clear glucose
12:12 from the blood so they're given a bolus
12:14 of glucose and then you measure the
12:17 blood glucose levels over time and what
12:19 you can see is that the black 6j mice
12:22 even a couple weeks as well as it gets
12:23 more prowess after 14 weeks on the
12:25 high-fat diet can't clear glucose as
12:28 well as the black 6nj mice and again the
12:30 same situation if your data fell in
12:32 between those depending on what you
12:33 chose as your controls would determine
12:35 how you interpret the data and if you
12:38 choose the wrong sub strain of black 6
12:40 you may incorrectly interpret that data
12:42 and one can also see neurological
12:44 differences as well when one looks at
12:46 mice from the C 50 some black 6j mice
12:48 compared to the black 6n from Charles
12:50 River those two strains are wild-type
12:53 for a gene called SN CA or it's a alpha
12:55 synuclein protein but when you look at
12:57 the black six months from harlan those
12:59 mice have had a spontaneous deletion of
13:01 that gene doesn't necessarily give a
13:05 visible phenotype but the alpha
13:07 synuclein protein is implicated in a
13:08 wide range of neurodegenerative diseases
13:10 and it's that primary structural
13:12 component of the Lewy bodies that are
13:14 found in the brains of Parkinson's
13:17 disease patients so that mutation
13:18 doesn't necessarily give a obvious
13:20 phenotype however if you are studying
13:22 some sort of neurodegenerative disease
13:25 that may affect the data depending on
13:27 your experiment on using which substrate
13:29 you've use so it's really important
13:31 again to understand not just a strain
13:33 you're using but the substring of c57
13:35 black 6 so that you can either choose
13:37 the right substrate for your experiments
13:38 or at least interpret your data
13:40 correctly and here's another example of
13:43 a behavior in which the black 6 mice
13:45 which are known to have a preference for
13:47 alcohol over other strains so if you
13:49 give them a choice of water with alcohol
13:50 or water without they'll prefer the
13:52 water with alcohol but you can see that
13:54 the black 6j mice actually will drink more
13:55 more
13:56 so they'll consume more alcohol and
13:58 they'll have a higher preference for it
14:01 than the black 6n mice which again leads
14:04 to a different phenotype again with two
14:07 different sub strains again depending on
14:09 what controls you use in your experiment
14:10 you may interpret your data can
14:13 correctly depending on your strain but
14:16 also there's another example of having
14:17 two different sub strains which have a
14:20 different phenotype which has some
14:21 notable differences now in gene
14:23 expression as you can see between the
14:24 genes at the graph in the lower right
14:27 hand corner of plaque 9 and the d40 me
14:31 RTD 44 4 9 II which could potentially be
14:33 responsible for those different
14:35 phenotypes so there's different sub
14:37 strains not only is an issue to pay
14:40 attention to but can be potentially good
14:42 experimental models for looking at those
14:44 different phenotypes and determining the
14:46 underlying genetic differences and the
14:48 last neurological one involves vision in
14:50 this case it's a gene known as CR b1
14:53 which is local localized to mulher cells
14:56 and the photoreceptor inner segments
14:58 mutations in that gene is associated
15:00 with retinal diseases in people
15:03 including retinitis pigmentosa as well
15:06 as retinal degeneration there's a
15:08 mutation in that gene called RT 8 for
15:11 retinal degeneration 8 that results in
15:12 this progressive spotty retinal
15:14 degeneration in mice which you can see
15:16 in that picture in the lower right hand
15:19 corner the left-hand retina is a normal
15:21 retina and the one on the right is the
15:23 one with the rd8 mutation you can see
15:26 that retinal degeneration they're all
15:28 c57 black 6 and
15:31 substrains are homozygous for the RDA
15:35 mutation but the c57 black 6 jameise are
15:38 wild type for that mutation so that
15:40 mutation happened after the mice had
15:43 gone to nih in 1951 and happened in that
15:45 colony and now all other derivatives or
15:47 other c fat these simplex and sub
15:49 strains are then homozygous for that
15:51 mutation and the consequences of that
15:54 could be in the interpreting of genes or
15:56 data as where you're looking at either
15:58 phenotypes that involve site or involve
16:01 neurobiology phenotypic analysis of
16:02 genes that are implicated in cognitive
16:05 function like behavioral tests like the
16:07 Morris water maze which requires visual
16:11 cues if you have c57 black 6 and mice
16:13 they're not they're going to have vision
16:14 problems which means they're going to
16:16 respond differently due to that mutation
16:18 not necessarily due to any treatment or
16:20 other mutations or transients that you
16:22 have and this can impact your areas of
16:24 research like Alzheimer's or autism Down
16:25 syndrome red sindermann
16:27 and a whole host of other
16:29 neurodegenerative disorders so it's
16:30 really critical that you understand that
16:33 if you are using those mice because that
16:36 could be an issue again in properly
16:37 setting up your experiments in
16:39 interpreting your data and this has
16:40 really come to be a sort of a major
16:43 issue with the retinal degeneration in
16:47 the black six and mice as there's this
16:49 international knockout mouse consortium
16:51 or ikm C which is an international
16:53 project to knock out all the protein
16:56 coding genes in the mouse but it just so
16:58 happens that the ESL lines used to
17:00 create all these mice were from a c57
17:03 black 6 and substrain meaning that all
17:05 of these mice are homozygous for that
17:07 rd8 mutation and this again is a
17:09 combination of strains from the knockout
17:12 mouse project in the US the comp the
17:14 European conditional Mouse mutagenesis
17:16 project or you come and then also the
17:19 the Norcom group in Canada and then
17:21 there's also the Texas AM it's a to
17:23 traditional medicine ticking which is a
17:25 separate thing but where they're making
17:27 gene traps but again they're all in c57
17:30 black 6 and sub strains which means c57
17:33 black 6 and becomes the better control
17:35 but we'll have the retinal degenerations
17:36 phenotype so if you're looking at
17:38 behavior that were quite a vision it's
17:41 going to be a an issue in addition to
17:42 generating all of these
17:45 knockout mice the ikm see also has
17:48 designated three different phenotyping
17:50 centers to start collecting phenotypic
17:53 information for all of these different
17:56 mutations and have looked at
17:59 reproducibility and they did look at
18:01 comparison the black 6j in the black 6n
18:05 and looking at a whole series of data as
18:06 you can see here this is just a subset
18:09 and the way this data is indicated is
18:11 any of those rectangles here that are in
18:14 red indicates that the black 6n have a
18:17 higher response than the black 6j and
18:19 the the darkness of the red indicates
18:23 then a higher difference the rectangles
18:25 in green indicate that the black 6n has
18:28 a lower value in the black 6j and again
18:30 the the darkness of the of the green
18:32 color indicates the the strength of that
18:35 decrease and when they and they also
18:36 looked at males and females for both in
18:37 here you can see all this data that's
18:39 comparing it and it's relatively very
18:41 well consistent between the three
18:43 different phenotypic centers that are
18:45 being used in that project and some of
18:48 these data that has been collected here
18:49 isn't just an example of an
18:51 immunological difference where the black
18:54 6j females actually show greater
18:56 susceptibility to infection with
18:59 Listeria then any of the other the black
19:02 6j males or the black 6n mice altogether
19:03 and then you can also see that the black
19:05 6n mice show a significant
19:07 pro-inflammatory response three days
19:08 after infection where they have
19:10 significantly higher expression levels
19:15 of IL 6 IP 10 and CCL 2 and another
19:17 example out of this data set is the
19:19 black 6j mice looking at which have a
19:21 higher response with delayed type
19:25 hypersensitivity which is a experimental
19:27 protocol where you sensitize the mice by
19:29 challenging them with DNF B on the
19:31 stomach and then you come back and
19:33 challenge them with it on the ear and
19:35 what will happen is they'll react to
19:37 that by ear swelling or so they'll get
19:39 inflammation in the ear and then you can
19:41 just measure the ear swelling as a
19:44 physical measurement and it is a t-cell
19:46 mediated response and what you see with
19:49 this is that the black 6j males and
19:51 females significantly have a
19:52 significantly greater inflammatory
19:54 response than the black 6 and males or females
19:55 females
19:58 and then also one can look at there's a
20:00 lot of information known about the
20:02 genetic background in terms of mutations
20:05 and snips of the black sixth chain and
20:07 black six and in there multiple of those
20:09 mutations have been identified as well
20:11 as structural variants that that data is
20:13 available as well and this knockout
20:15 mouse phenotyping project or the comp 2
20:19 is to generate in phenotype 2,500
20:21 different knockout mouse strains and
20:22 it's a it's a collaborative effort
20:24 between the three genotyping centers
20:26 that Jackson laboratory here in Bar
20:28 Harbor Maine is one of those centers it
20:30 along with a Baylor College of Medicine
20:33 in Houston which also is working with
20:35 the Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute and
20:39 the MRC and Harwell and the third place
20:41 with the phenotyping Center is the UC
20:43 Davis which in addition to their
20:45 facility is working also with the
20:46 Toronto Centre for Fino genomics in
20:48 Canada and the Children's Hospital
20:50 Oakland Research Institute and the
20:53 Charles River lab in Massachusetts so
20:55 when we look at the genetic background
20:58 of the mice distributed by the Jackson
21:00 Laboratory that are honestly 57 black 6
21:02 background whether they're knockouts
21:04 transgenics or spontaneous induce
21:07 mutations nearly 2,000 of those mice are
21:10 on a c57 black 6 j background we have
21:12 about 70 that are on the black 6n
21:15 however we have over a thousand strains
21:17 either coming from the comp 2 project or
21:19 through youcome that are going to be on
21:23 the c57 black 6 n background and so
21:25 understanding the differences between
21:27 those backgrounds and understanding the
21:29 nomenclature differences it's going to
21:31 help ensure that you can pick the right
21:33 control strain for the strain that
21:34 you're getting and that you understand
21:36 that there are differences between them
21:38 and so of course when you start looking
21:41 then with these different sub strains we
21:42 have to talk about the controls and how
21:45 you choose the right control so if you
21:47 have a congenic mouse strain where you
21:49 have a mutation or transgenes that's
21:53 been back crossed to c57 black 6 whether
21:55 it's black 6j or black 6 and for more
21:57 than ten generations you can typically
21:58 use littermates
22:00 as controls if you're doing het by hat
22:02 or hep by wild-type or if it's a
22:04 transgene hemi by wild-type if any of
22:06 those mating schemes and in those cases
22:08 you can always use wild-type or
22:10 potentially the heterozygous littermates
22:12 as controls for the mutant gene or
22:14 allele if you have transgenic mice you
22:15 would use the non carrier to the
22:17 wild-type mice but you could also
22:19 potentially use non littermate controls
22:20 from the colony so that would be say
22:22 mice from other litters that are all
22:24 from the same colony if you're breeding
22:27 homozygote by homozygote then you could
22:29 use the inbred substring as your control
22:30 but again you need to make sure you
22:32 understand what substring you're
22:34 homozygous mutants are on so you can
22:36 match the background as close as
22:38 possible to make sure you have the best
22:40 possible control if you have a mixed
22:42 background say a mix of black six jane
22:45 black 6n which is actually more common
22:47 than you might think and I'll discuss
22:49 that in a little bit coming up but it's
22:51 not uncommon for people to not either
22:53 know what background they're black six
22:56 mice are on or potentially to get mice
22:59 from one vendor at one time say black 6j
23:01 but then the next time maybe somebody's
23:03 got a kind of a little discount going on
23:05 so they get black 6n the next time and
23:07 now they have a mix of both and if they
23:10 don't understand their significant
23:12 genetic differences between those they
23:14 may not be overly concerned but in those
23:16 cases really your only options are
23:18 litter mates so that would either be
23:19 wild-type or heterozygous for the
23:21 mutants more non cures for the
23:23 transgenes or again your non-letter mate
23:26 controls from the colony I'd like to
23:28 give one more example so if you remember
23:30 back when I was talking about a high-fat
23:32 diet and the daityas versus B City I
23:34 gave that hypothetical situation I
23:37 actually want to show you actual real
23:39 data that has been published that ran
23:42 into that same conundrum with choosing
23:45 controls so these are researchers they
23:47 had generated a JMK 2 also known as map
23:50 kinase 9 knockout on a c57 black 6
23:53 background and what they did is they
23:55 then used acetaminophen induced liver
23:57 injury was their phenotype they were
23:59 looking at so they compared that
24:01 knockout to the c57 black 6 jake
24:04 controls and what they found is that the
24:07 knockout mice had a higher degree of
24:10 liver injury indicating that the map
24:13 kinase 9 gene product or the protein was
24:16 protective of that phenotype which was
24:19 turned out to be the opposite of what
24:21 the researchers believed was going to
24:21 happen with those
24:25 come ice so they then looked at compared
24:27 then the knockout to the c57 black 6 and
24:31 J and they then found that the black 6nj
24:33 had a higher amount of acetaminophen
24:35 induced liver injury than their knockout
24:38 mice so that left him in that situation
24:41 where if you compare the knockout to the
24:43 black 6j mice that indicates that genus
24:46 paddle protective but if you compare it
24:48 to the black 6nj that indicates that the
24:52 junk to protein is Patou toxic so that
24:54 left them in a position where now what
24:55 is the best substring for their
24:58 experiments then they actually looked at
24:59 the genome and they found that it turns
25:00 out that their mouse was actually on a
25:04 black 6n genetic background not black 6j
25:06 therefore the black 6 NJ is the better
25:08 control and it looks like then that
25:11 protein is a pedal toxic so it's that
25:14 protein itself is involved in that
25:16 increased acetaminophen induced injury
25:19 but again if they didn't choose the
25:20 right control or they didn't have done
25:22 both and they had just looked at the
25:25 black 6j all of their data would be
25:27 reported incorrectly so they would have
25:29 interpreted that wrong and then
25:30 everybody else who may have followed
25:33 that research and built on it would have
25:34 been doing things incorrectly
25:37 potentially so if you are getting any
25:39 new Mouse strain whether it's from a
25:41 colleague or a collaborator or you know
25:43 somebody published a strain and they're
25:45 willing to give you mice there's a lot
25:46 of information you really want to ask
25:48 them so that you can understand the
25:50 genetic background of the mice they're
25:52 sending you and so that way you can
25:54 choose the right controls so you want to
25:55 know what strain was used to develop the
25:57 strain was there an O site donor
25:59 involved what was that was it yes cell
26:02 line what es cell line was used any
26:03 other strains that might have been
26:05 introduced their breeding you know do
26:07 they cross it to a career a flip strain
26:08 did they cross just some sort of
26:11 reporter like a lag 0 GFP reporter or
26:13 other mutations did they remove it or
26:16 those mutations still there it's a
26:17 current breeding scheme are they
26:19 bringing up my hat home by home what are
26:21 they doing it's nice to know the current
26:24 generation been crop has served in any
26:27 point if so what generation has been
26:30 back crossed to an inbred strain if so
26:32 what inbred strain have they confirmed
26:34 the genetic background so if they say
26:35 the mysimon back
26:38 ten times the c57 black 6 J have they
26:40 actually confirmed that it really is
26:43 well back crossed and so at the Jackson
26:46 Laboratory we do have stringent QC
26:49 quality control that we then look at the
26:50 genetic background of all the strains
26:52 that we import and when we do that it's
26:55 not uncommon that we find that the the
26:56 genetic background of the mouse that we
26:59 import is actually not what we are told
27:03 in fact almost a 30 I think it's 31
27:05 percent of the strains that we look at
27:06 are not on the background that we're
27:08 told so that's about one out of three I
27:11 think something like 16% end up being on
27:14 a mix of black 6j and black 6n and so if
27:16 that's happening with the strains that
27:18 we import just think about what's going
27:20 on with the mice that you might get from
27:21 a colleague or a collaborator or some
27:23 other researcher so it's going to be the
27:25 same so if you are getting a new strain
27:27 highly recommend that you look at
27:29 monitoring the genetic background and at
27:30 the Jackson laboratory we do have
27:33 services that can help you with that we
27:36 do have a genome scanning service that
27:38 can distinguish between the c57 black 6
27:40 j and the C 50 some black 6 and sub
27:44 strains it's 150 markers with markers
27:46 distributed evenly throughout the genome
27:48 so we can distinguish those two we can
27:50 also distinguish whether the mice have
27:53 been back Ross safe to c57 black 6 you
27:55 know whether it was on a 129 or went
27:57 from bob see we have panels that we can
27:59 use to distinguish between any two
28:01 commonly used inbred mouse strains and
28:03 confirm the background and I would
28:04 highly recommend if you are getting a
28:07 new strain from other people I would
28:09 highly recommend you take that time and
28:11 look at confirming the genetic
28:13 background because it's better to know
28:15 upfront that the mice are not the
28:17 background you expect them to be so that
28:19 you can then plan accordingly whether
28:21 alter your controls or potentially
28:23 backcross but it's better to know before
28:25 and after you get a lot of data
28:27 potentially find the problem or you may
28:29 never know there's a problem and there
28:31 you end up with the wrong control and
28:32 again you wouldn't be in a position
28:34 where you would interpret your data
28:37 incorrectly I mentioned earlier that the
28:39 Jackson laboratory we do have two
28:41 substrates of c57 black 6 both the black
28:44 6j and the black 6 NJ again these are
28:46 very well characterized we have them
28:48 both at a high health status and
28:50 I had talked about data reproducibility
28:52 so you know what are we doing here at
28:55 the Jackson Laboratory to ensure the
28:57 genetic integrity of these two sub
28:59 strains and so what we have developed is
29:01 a genetic stability program there's a
29:02 patented program that we developed here
29:05 at the Jackson Laboratory that we use to
29:07 diminish cumulative genetic drift and
29:09 thereby stabilize the phenotype of those
29:11 mice and so what we have for these
29:14 strains is a 25-year supply of frozen
29:16 embryos from the same generation and
29:18 what we do is we thought some of those
29:20 embryos to generate our foundation
29:23 colony and the foundation mice then
29:25 breed for at the most up to five
29:27 generations after that point we would
29:28 remove them from the shelves again
29:30 generate new mice from the what we have
29:33 crab preserved during the five
29:34 generations of breeding the foundation
29:36 we then pull off mice for the expansion
29:39 of distribution where those mice breed
29:41 it for most ten generations which would
29:42 then of course be the mice that you
29:45 would be purchasing directly from us so
29:46 therefore the mice that you get from us
29:49 for either the black 6j or the black 6nj
29:52 are at most 15 generations removed from
29:54 what we have cryopreserved
29:56 now during those generations mutations
29:59 will happen but because we keep going
30:01 back to the beginning those mutations
30:03 are not able to fix or become homozygous
30:04 in the colony
30:06 therefore the mice that you get from us
30:08 today are going to be as genetically
30:10 identical to mice that you get five 10
30:13 20 years from now thereby were then
30:15 maintaining that genetic stability and
30:18 then retaining that same phenotype so
30:19 again that the phenotype and the
30:22 genotype should say stable every year
30:24 and we have a lot of resources that we
30:26 can't use to support using black six
30:29 mice we have the mouse genome database
30:31 where we collecting baseline phenotypic
30:34 information for a host of commonly used
30:36 inbred mouse strains including the c57
30:39 black 6 J where we have close to 3,000
30:41 different measurements so you can use
30:44 that to either get baseline information
30:46 for the phenotypes you're interested in
30:48 that way you don't have to establish
30:50 them yourself in your lab but you just
30:52 can validate them there is a whole
30:54 genome sequence data available from the
30:56 Sanger Institute and the mouse genomes
30:59 project the c57 black 6 J was the
31:01 original Mouse genome that
31:03 originally sequins but the black 6nj has
31:05 been sequenced with this mouse genome
31:07 project therefore you can search for
31:10 mutations between those we also have a
31:12 lot of precondition mice for the strains
31:14 where we including a strep disease and
31:16 induced diabetes or diet induced obese
31:18 where you can get mice black 6j mice
31:21 that are already fed a high-fat diet as
31:24 well as aged mice as well and then both
31:26 of these strains are available at a very
31:28 high health status with no additional
31:30 charges for that it's all all the same
31:32 you know I just want to make sure you
31:33 guys are aware again that's really
31:36 critical to understand the phenotypes of
31:38 the stranger using and you can use the
31:41 mouse genome database or MPD to get some
31:42 of that baseline phenotype here's just
31:44 an example of plasma glucose levels
31:47 after a four hour fast and looking at 43
31:49 different Mouse trains the arrow is
31:52 pointing to the black 6j so you can use
31:54 of course the MPD database of using any
31:56 commonly used in bran strain not just
31:59 c57 black 6 but if you are using black 6
32:02 which most of you certainly are you can
32:04 find baseline data in that database
32:06 which can then have an idea what to expect
32:06 expect
32:08 prior to any treatment or mutation and
32:10 so really you need to really consider
32:12 that your experimental model is one of
32:14 your most important reagents you know
32:16 really choose wisely and really
32:18 understand the inbred strain you're
32:21 using as well as the sub strain the more
32:23 you know the less problems you'll run
32:25 into because you you really understand
32:28 that always really critical to use
32:29 proper nomenclature so if you're using
32:33 black 6 mice indicate you are using
32:36 black 6j are using black 6 NJ black 6 n
32:39 c RL it's really critical to really use
32:41 that that way anybody else who reads
32:43 that publication will know what strain
32:45 you used and then again you know
32:47 minimize genetic drift either get your
32:50 mice from a respected vendor that is
32:52 working to minimize genetic drift or if
32:53 you've got a mutation or transient on a
32:56 black 6 8j inbred background you want a
32:58 back cross to the black 6j every five to
33:00 ten generations to keep your mice as
33:02 similar as to your controls as possible
33:04 make sure you're well educated and
33:05 really establishing a good quality
33:07 control culture because really the
33:09 better you understand and the better
33:11 quality control you take then the less
33:13 mice you'll have to use and really it's
33:14 really good
33:16 does result in using reduced animals so
33:18 the less mice you have to use the less
33:20 resources and timer involved in that
33:23 will improve your research program so
33:25 again just to summarize there are many
33:27 different genetically and phenotypically
33:30 unique sub strains of c57 black 6 that
33:31 have developed over time and they're
33:34 going to continue to develop as time
33:36 goes on and really knowing and
33:38 understanding the black 6 sub thing that
33:39 you're working with is really critical
33:41 to choosing the proper controls and
33:44 proper data interpretation looking at
33:46 the phenotypes between black 6 sub
33:48 drains can also allow for identification
33:50 of unique modifier alleles so while you
33:52 may think that the different sub strains
33:53 might be a headache to have to pay
33:56 attention to they may offer really
33:58 really good experimental models to look
34:00 at those phenotypes that are different
34:03 that the Jackson Laboratory we're using
34:05 our genetic stability program to limit
34:07 genetic drift to stabilize those
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34:41 custom and complicated complex breeding
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34:45 breeding or you wish we can breed creole
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