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As somebody who used to identify quite
happily as a liberal, I found myself
completely disassociated from the woke
left in a way I just never thought
possible where people on supposedly my
side would start to become science
deniers, biology deniers, um but also
develop this incredibly hateful mindset
that if if you didn't go along with
everything that they believed, you would
be cancelled, you'd be destroyed, you'd
be shamed, you'd be vilified. And and
now, as we've seen with Charlie Kirk,
you will actually be murdered in cold
blood simply for having opinions that
they don't like. It is it is, as I said
at the start of this, it's unnerving. It
It's quite scary actually. And when you
see those Tik Tok videos of them so
proudly talking about this, joyously
celebrating a murder like that, I I
really do fear about what is going on.
Well, Piers, it's not even that it's
about his actual opinions. It's about
the opinions that many thought leaders
on the left purport that he has, which
are complete lies. So, look, I am in
somewhat of a reconciliatory mode here.
So, I'd like to ask Jenk. I have 10
headlines here he has put up about
Charlie Kirk. They are on his channel
right now. And let's see if Jenk
believes that these are true. Charlie
Kirk says prominent black women took
white people's spots. Charlie Kirk
boasts about his all-white basketball
team. Charlie Kirk gives pigish advice
to high school girls. Ex employee
exposes Charlie Kirk's grift. Charlie
Kurs Kirk embarrasses himself. Charlie
Kirk's brain melts explaining antivax
conspiracy. Charlie Kirk rants about
women in their 30s. Charlie Kirk Kirk
has literally no clue how the real world
works. Charlie Kirk gets triggered.
Declines appearance over pronouns.
Charlie Kirk doubles down on women
hating backlash. I am telling you peers,
Charlie Kirk was one of the best human
beings I ever met. He did not have a
bone of racism, misogyny, or anything
else in his body. But liars lie and they
jin up otherwise good people. From the
little bit we know about this shooter,
he had a stable household. He was going
to college. He was fine. We'll find out
where he got radicalized. But please,
please, let's not pretend we don't know
where this stuff is coming from. And
please, let's not pretend that this
thing is going both ways because it is
absolutely not. I also have a Well, you
know what, Jenk, I'll ask you a question
directly, actually. Do you think Charlie
wanted to be martyed? Do you think
Charlie wanted to be martyed? Do you
think Charlie wanted to be killed? Yes
or no?
>> Of course not. What kind of assignment
question is that?
>> You Oh, you don't you don't cuz that's
pretty interesting because here's a
video of you, Jen, talking when Charlie
was at a breakfast.
>> Yeah. allows for easy martyrdom for
these guys and and they don't deserve
it. Um, but I do also want to point out
as in they're in the middle of crying
now, although Charlie was smiling ear to
ear throughout the entire video
thinking, "Yes,
I'm now the victim and I'll get to claim
that my rights have been."
>> Did you catch the beginning of that, Jen?
Jen?
>> Listen, we'll do it again.
>> No, I didn't. And that's totally out of
No, we're not going to do it again.
Totally out of context. I don't even
know what the hell you're talking No,
no, no, no, no. Listen, listen, brother.
Listen, listen. Is that what you're
trying to do? You loser. Jesus Christ.
>> No, no, no. I'm trying to do
reconciliation. What people like you
>> look at the last two things of your the
last two guests.
>> Piers. Piers.
>> Piers. No. What they said was, "Yes, we
should have reconciliation, but it is
not without any contrition, right? It's
not without a Maya. Charlie was accosted
by Antifa at a breakfast in
Philadelphia. And the video that I just
played is you with a cartoon of him as
Charlie Brown saying that he would love
to be martyed so he could be the victim.
Well, I guarantee you his wife who now
doesn't have a husband and his kids who
don't have fathers said did not want him
to be you just played isn't what I
>> It's exactly what you said, brother said
it was.
>> Let's do it again.
>> No, it isn't. We just heard it. We just
heard it. All right. So, you know what?
>> Let's do it again.
>> Cut this crap out.
>> Come on. Do it again.
>> Pierce, can we talk about reality? This
is something he's going back to like 10 years.
years.
>> I think I think Cheng should be allowed
to respecting what I said there.
>> It allows for easy martyrdom for these
guys and they don't deserve it. That was
when Antifa was going after him at a breakfast.
breakfast.
>> Okay, so let's let Jake respond to that.
>> No, that was about words, you
Okay, Jesus Christ, man. All right, so
easy to reality. Okay,
>> shut up. There's a massive loss here on
a human level of a very bright uh
successful young man who like you said
he didn't smoke, he didn't take drugs,
he didn't, you know, he wasn't a party
guy. He was committed to his beliefs and
he's committed to, you know, spreading
the word of his beliefs, but also
allowing people to debate with him about
those beliefs. That's what a democratic
society should be about. And yet here he
is now dead at 31 because somebody was
was incapable of listening to his
beliefs without wanting to kill him.
>> Yeah. Here's look, this is a guy, you
know, I don't talk about it that often.
I happen to be gay. It's not a big deal.
I've been married for over 10 years and
I've sat with Charlie and my husband and
his wife and talked about marriage and
talk about the differences there and and
all of those things and we talked it
out. That's what Charlie was great at. I
I do have to say though on the political
side of this for where this conversation
has got it got got heated. It seems to
me that everyone agrees that Donald
Trump is not Hitler and his supporters
are not Nazis. So with that in mind, I
I'd like to read some other headlines.
These are video titles from Jenks
channel. And and if in the spirit of
reconciliation, maybe he wants to delete
these things. Trump cuts anti-Nazi
program. Trump spreading Nazi
propaganda. Nazis encouraged by Trump's
Charlottville response. Trump defends
Nazis, very fine people. That is the
biggest hoax hoax, political hoax ever.
Trump retweets a neo-Nazi again. Trump
disappoints neo-Nazi supporters. So,
these things don't come out of nowhere.
I only blame one person at the end of
the day for these murders, which is the
crazy person who does the murders. But
pretending that what is wildly
asymmetrical, I think I have laid that
out with evidence here. Pretending that
it's symmetrical is deeply, deeply
dangerous. Piers, you know this because
we've discussed it on my show. Even on
your show, you have found it way more
difficult to find rational, decent
people on the left who will explain
themselves thoughtfully and calmly and
everything else. While the the monopoly
of people you get on the right who
shouldn't even be on the right, I would
say certainly someone like me, I I don't
know exactly where BA considers herself,
but people with a variance of political
opinions that now broadly are part of
the MAGA thing is because of what I just
read you. The endless hysteria of the
left that has jinned up people to do
crazy things. It's not to say you can't
say the worst things. You want to say
the worst things, Donald Trump's a Nazi.
It's so tough to say. You want to say
that, go ahead and say it. it it falls
on the person who pulls the trigger. But
if we're all sitting here saying, "Yeah,
it's not true that Donald Trump's a Nazi
and it's not true that his supporters
are Nazis and he's not Hitler and all of
those things." Well, then before you get
to reconciliation, a little bit of a
Maya by some of us might be valuable, >> Jank.
>> Jank.
>> Yeah. I mean, look at this. This is
disgusting. So this guy pretending to do
consiliation and I was gonna be
consiliator toward to towards Dave if I
spoke first. But apparently that's not
what he's doing at all. So what he's
trying to do is get people angry in a
misleading way against me. Are you
trying to get
>> Are those are those titles of your videos?
videos?
>> Disgusting. So no no let me explain. Let
me explain.
>> Those are your titles.
>> No. Let me explain. You're asking me a
goddamn question. So let me explain
while you're trying to get people to do
violence against me. You're disgusting.
So those are 80% of those titles. I've
never called Trump a Nazi. And those
titles were about neo-Nazi reactions. So
what do you want us to do? Not telling
you what's actually happening. And so look,
look,
>> did Donald Trump side with neo?
>> Yes, he did say that incident in Charlottesville.
Charlottesville.
>> So as
you could have given it to me,
>> can I just talk? So this monster is
trying to egg on violence.
>> What did Donald Trump say after very
talking about the neo-Nazis or the white
supremacists who who should be condemned
completely? It's the biggest debunked
conspiracy theory of all time. You're
still pushing that now.
>> You're still pushing the very fine
people who now. I'm shocked even for you.
you.
>> Dave, no. Dave, shut up and let me
answer your stupid question. So on that
day, which now we're going back to that
for no goddamn reason other than you're
trying to get people angry at me for
misleading things. Did your very fine
people on both sides? He did. Shut up
and let me answer.
>> So did he say there are very fine people
on both sides? He did. So that's a fact.
Now, who was he referring to? As we've
explained on the Young Turks, he might
have been referring to the people who
were in favor of the Confederacy and
came out there to support Confederate
generals. I didn't find that to be any
better. Those people were in favor of
slavery. Those people lynched black
people. So, I'm not going to ever
cheerlead for them. And I'm not ever
going to shut up. In the very next
sentence, in the very next sentence, can
he say about the white supremacist? So,
you're not going to get me to shut up
and you are against speech and you're
the one trying to smear people. So, let
me be super clear and let me outrage
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