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You can ask any question.
Radha Soami Master. Please forgive me I have a question.
Please.
Maharaj Ji, I'm not initiated yet,
but I know about you for 12 years because my mother
is a satsangi.
I'm confused since the Professor said in a discourse
that the mind can deceive us,
either in a friendly or in hostile way.
So, the problem is often I feel very lonely inside,
then I turn to you and ask for help,
and is that feeling,
that you help me as long as I'm not a satsangi,
only a trick of my mind?
It’s possible.
You see, actually, tendency of the soul
is not at all towards the creation.
As I said yesterday even, inclination or tendency of the soul
is entirely towards the Father.
It's only the mind which is attached to this creation,
attached to each other, attached to these faces, these objects.
And when we address within ourselves,
when we address to somebody we are addressing to our own
higher mind, our noble mind, our pure mind,
say your conscience.
The more nobler your mind will be,
the better guidance it will give you within.
The more higher mind you have been able to develop,
the better guidance you will get from within.
Actually it's your mind which is guiding you within.
His grace is always there.
Those souls,
which the Lord ultimately has to put on the path,
He starts shaping them right from the beginning.
His guiding hand is over them;
help is on, with them right from the beginning.
He doesn't let them go so astray,
and not to be pulled back to the Path.
But as far as seeking the guidance and help from within,
mostly it is our higher mind, which is giving us.
She would like to know whether you
only start to help when she's a satsangi?
What do you mean by help,
what type of help you want?
What type of help we want?
Master's only there to help us,
to take us out of the world.
He will not give us anything which will
attach us to this creation;
which will bring us back to this creation.
We have wrong concept of Master's grace and Master's help.
It is not Master’s help to find us a better husband
or to give us a better prospect in life ...
I don't want that.
a better, a fulfillment of a better ambition in life.
These things may pull us back to this creation.
Master wants to detach us from everybody
whom we are attached.
That is real Master’s grace.
She says, she means, her loneliness when she feels so lonely.
We are all lonely in this creation.
It is self-deception to think that somebody belongs to you,
or you belong to somebody.
Sooner we realize this, the better it is for our own advantage,
for our own good.
We're all lonely in this creation,
nothing belongs to us, except the Lord.
Our tendency is not towards Him.
In this creation nobody belongs to us.
So naturally that emptiness is there, the void is there.
It can only be fulfilled, it can only be full, I mean,
fulfilled by meditation; not by any other means.
We're all lonely in this world.
She asks also together with you?
Hmm?
She asks whether she would also be lonely with you?
She knows best.
Okay, thank you.
Maharaj Ji, may I please ask you a question
Yes.
from a sister?
She says she's initiated for two months,
and when she sits in meditation
after some minutes, this is most of the times,
after some minutes, she gets a very heavy pressure here
and I then she has problems with breathing.
And it gets very strong and she has to get up
and walk around.
And then after some minutes, she sits down again and
wants to continue the meditation,
but usually this problem comes back
and she feels like suffocating.
You see,
some people try to mix their simran,
synchronize their simran along with breathing.
Especially those who have been doing this
yogic exercises or breathing exercises.
They try to synchronize their simran along with breathing,
which is very harmful.
It is very harmful.
Simran has nothing to do with the breathing.
Breathing is the normal function of the body.
I'm talking to you, you are talking to me, neither you're
conscious of breathing, nor I'm conscious of the breathing.
So at the time of simran,
we should not be conscious of the breathing.
When you will try to hold
one breath and do two times simran,
three times simran, or you will try to go
up and down along with the breathing and do simran.
All sorts of complications will arise.
So, one should not try to mix simran with breathing at all.
Thank you. Radha Soami.
Master, I'm over here.
Could you explain please, what happens to
the three classes of souls
as they pass through the gates of death?
The first - soul being, the uninitiated;
the second - soul being initiated, but
having made no progress
on the path, and may even have strayed;
and thirdly - the initiated soul has made good progress.
Please.
Brother, it depends upon our individual karmas,
whether you are initiated, or whether you are not initiated.
You see, it depends upon your attachment to this creation.
Even if you are initiated,
even if you have some progress to your credit
but you are very much attached to someone in this creation,
you'll have to come back to this creation.
On the other hand, if you are initiated,
you are not attached to anybody in this creation
and you have hardly any progress to your credit,
then no reason why should you come to this creation.
You can't generalize these things.
It depends upon the individual karmas.
We go according to our own karmas.
Thank you Master.
Master,
may I ask something for my husband who is not here?
Yes, please?
He would like to ask if you could send your darshan?
Send you darshan?
Can you take that darshan with you?
What is his concept of darshan?
I don't know.
Well, you should have asked before you came.
It's his question.
He wants to ask you,
if you could send your darshan to him.
I don't know what does he mean by darshan?
I will ask him.
How can the darshan be sent to him?
Is he a satsangi?
Yes.
He should meditate
and try to find his Master within,
and have as much darshan as he wants.
Thank you Master, I'll tell him.
Master?
Yes, yes?
Over here.
Yes please?
I'm a seeker, and I've recently met one of your followers
and I have some questions, which I am sure are
probably explained somewhere in one of your books.
How do you view divorce?
How?
Yes, what, is divorce allowed amongst satsangis?
Sister, my books are full with such problems.
I don't know, it depends upon individual circumstances.
I can't generalize it, but normally
I don't approve of divorces, with one excuse or another,
people rush for divorces with one excuse or another.
But there are circumstances when one understand ...
That's what I said. It depends upon circumstances.
Thank you.
Maharaj Ji?
Yes?
I know that,
social activity should not take the place of satsang,
but I notice over the years,
brothers and sisters even before initiation,
who come to satsang and didn't leave
and don't make friends with, other satsangis,
or have lunch or dinner or other activities with satsangis
often don't stay around very long.
You know, after the years
they are not around anymore at satsang.
You never see them again.
No, I'm not against social activities by satsangis,
but that is not the purpose of holding satsangs.
I'm not against social activities
or social meetings by satsangis,
but that should not be the main object of satsang.
Main object is something different.
Yes. Thank you very much Maharaj Ji,
and to all the sevadars.
Maharaj Ji, here, to your left. Radha Soami.
I would like one advice from you, please,
when I travel to visit some friends
I usually always carry with me I,
I would like offer to you something but I don't know,
what can I offer to you, what kind of
present can I, do for you?
Your good wishes, more than enough for me.
Thank you, Master.
Most welcome.
Master …
Yes please?
thank you very much for providing me with
an opportunity to see you as a seeker.
I would like to apply for initiation as soon as possible,
when I return to Hawaii, with our representative there.
I am all excited about it
for it will be the most important moment in my life.
It is almost like subscribing to a telephone service.
When certain arrangements have been met,
and commitments made,
and a switch is, switch in the central terminal,
is flipped on and from that moment on,
we can make the connection through the terminal
anytime we want, that is as far as we pay the dues.
Telephone services are not very encouraging in India.
I don't know about your country.
To me, initiation provides us with this turning on,
of the switch,
beyond the instruction and symbolic meaning.
My question is: since initiation is done by an agent
through your proxy,
thousands of miles away,
how and when this vital switch is turned on?
Would you be present at an initiation
in some invisible form or in Shabd …
Well brother, when you are initiated on the behalf of the Master,
it's responsibility of the Master to be there.
Now, you should not worry.
I won't be - there's no case of me, meditating
for next twenty years and, for some reason
my name is dropped from your administrative records
and, without connecting to you.
So I don't have to worry about that.
I just wanted your assurance.
Thank you very much.
You can be in touch with your representative there.
May I ask you one more quick quick question.
Yes, yes.
I understand that the God is love,
and the best way to approach God
is the way of love.
And I have no problem when I'm meditating
or attending such meeting and, retaining that one pointed,
one pointedness towards that goal.
But as soon as I get out on the street,
and face other human beings, fellow human beings,
I get more ... I guess every one of us
get more greedy and selfish,
we get more greedy and selfish.
What would be the best way to balance that,
between those concentrated effort to be ...
Well, love is something,
where nothing else can exist
except the Beloved.
Love is very jealous.
Except the Beloved,
it doesn't want anything else to be there.
Christ said,
"If you love your mother, father so many other relations "
more than me, then you're not, He said - "worthy of me".
And if we are not worthy of Christ,
we cannot become worthy of the Father.
Worthy of me, to become me,
worthy of Father to become Father.
So, this is our love which will take us back to the Father.
If we are in love with this creation,
we come back to the creation.
If we are love with the Father, we'll go back to the Father.
We go where our treasures are.
If we are building treasure in earth,
we'll come back to this earth.
If we're building treasure in heaven,
we'll go back to heaven, go back to Father.
This is love.
That is why they say that - God is love,
because only He can be realized through love.
Meditation is nothing
but detaching our mind from the creation,
and attaching it to the Father.
Withdrawing our attachments from the creation,
withdrawing our worldly love
and focusing on the Father.
That is the purpose of meditation.
Thank you very much.
Radha Soami, Maharaj Ji. I have a problem …
that when I'm here and I'm in front of you,
and I see you,
I mean that's all that I want.
And I want to stay with you, I don't want to leave.
I want to come back as soon as I can.
And then, as soon as I go out and have dinner
and walk to my hotel, and go to the laundry,
I begin to forget.
And then by the time I get to the United States,
it seems to all go away and I get all involved in everything.
And then when I start trying to think of coming here,
there’s this enormous resistance
starts rolling in, you know,
worrying about the plane, and worrying about hotels,
and will I ever be able to see you,
and will that ever stop?
That's been going on for about five years now.
Is there any way to just
let go of that resistance?
You mentioned that to a brother, just stop resisting,
and is that in my hands?
How do you mean by resistance?
Well, it's that - I'm saying I want to do this
but there seems to be something that's saying
just the opposite.
That's saying- 'no, you shouldn't or you just ...
You see, mind is divided, it is attached to the creation,
it is also being pulled to the Path.
So sometime this side is heavier,
sometime this side is heavier.
Does it ever stop? I mean, besides when you get to Trikuti,
does it go on like this forever?
There, there's no mind.
That's it.
There's only one side.
But till then the struggle goes on.
It will go on.
Okay, I guess that was my second question, that
Professor mentioned that the mind is sometimes your friend
and sometimes it isn't and can it ever be totally …
You see, as long as mind is pulling us downward and outward,
this is our worst enemy.
When it starts pulling us inward and upward,
this is our best friend;
cannot find a better friend than the mind then.
Without winning the friendship of the mind,
soul can never get release from the clutches of the mind.
Guru Nanak says, "Your mind becomes that of gold.”
First it is just an iron;
then it becomes gold. When?
When that 'paaras', that philosopher stone touches it.
That philosopher stone is Nam.
So we have to win the friendship of the mind.
Mind is enemy because it's pulling us outward;
it is keeping us attached to this creation.
When with the help of Shabd and Nam
we are able to withdraw from there and attach it to inside,
Shabd starts pulling us in,
from outside and starts taking us upward -
it becomes, starts becoming our friend.
Then it starts becoming gold, same mind.
Only it needs to be in touch with the philosopher’s stone.
Just as soon as it touches the Shabd,
I mean, or do you fall back again
and again after that?
Unless you - it's always risky unless you go beyond
the realm of mind and maya.
Thank you.
Maharaj Ji, could I have clarification please on something that
Great Master wrote in Spiritual Gems.
He said in letter 168,
"The soul of every true follower is progressing internally,
even when he is not aware of it.
Yes, the soul can enter Brahmand
when he is unconscious of it".
How much progress can we make
without being aware of it?
And is it...
is it usual for a soul to travel so far inside
without having any knowledge of it?
No, we have its effect on us.
We don't have
practically the whole knowledge of its inside travelling,
but we start feeling its effect within us,
our attitude, our mind. It starts changing.
Aptitudes of the mind changes.
Generally, saints don't say these things but
Great Master has written that I know,
especially to certain disciples,
but that is the fact.
Thank you, Maharaj Ji.
Radha Soami, Master.
Yes?
I have a question
but first I would like to thank you for
this rare opportunity to be with you in the physical form.
Master, you've pulled many of us here from the
Hawaiian Islands.
And I know that there are
a few people that were left behind that
would like to be remembered to you
and my question is Master, many of us are are leaving soon
and I wonder if you could advise us
as to how we can win the grace of the Lord
and achieve God-realization in this life?
Sister, I think we are discussing nothing but that every day.
What do we meet here for?
Nobody's talking any fairy tales here.
We're only talking about spirituality, nothing else.
Meditation is the only way.
There’s no other shortcut.
We’re harping on the same tune every day, every day,
day and night, every day.
That is the only way.
That is the only solution.
There’s no other way.
Do your best and rest you leave it to the Father’s grace.
Thank you, Master.
Beloved, Radha Soami.
Yes?
Would you please describe to us
how the Father chooses the soul of his Son
and how that soul is sent down into Pinda for our salvation?
This I think you'd better ask the Father.
How can we describe
how Father does and what Father does -
sitting at this level;
how can we describe about Him?
How He selects and whom He selects and why He selects.
He knows best.
I asked that because
we would like to hear you speak for a while.
We've spoken so much about ourselves.
Yes, we're speaking every day.
I'm here practically every day for one hour.
I think most of the speaking is done by me rather than you.
Thank you. Radha Soami.
Yes?
Maharaj Ji?
To your right.
You've often quoted Socrates as saying, "Know yourself",
before knowing the Lord.
And, part of the question is, is it important,
is it also necessary to love yourself
before you love God?
And behind that is that I find that
I have difficulty in loving myself,
And I'm wondering whether you have any suggestions
as to how I could love myself more,
or how we could love ourselves more?
Brother, where did I say 'love yourself' ?
You said, "Know yourself."
Know yourself. Know thyself.
That is different than loving yourself.
Right. That's correct.
I interpreted that as loving yourself.
The question to me that I wanted to know is
how I can love myself better?
I don't know how to love yourself because
when you love the Lord, you don't exist.
Then how can you love yourself?
Either you will love yourself or you can love the Lord.
If you're in love with yourself,
you’re not in a position to love the Lord at all.
We are, you see, we are all in love with ourself.
Loving ourself means we attach to this creation so much,
attached to the faces and objects of the world.
We're trying to please our mind, by belonging to people,
by deceiving ourself that they belong to us.
This is loving ourself.
Actually, neither they belong to us
neither we belong to them.
Someone who belongs to us, someone whom we belong -
that we don't bother to care.
That is the only Father.
So we don't have to love ourself.
If you remove all the coverings from the soul,
soul will automatically go back to the Father because soul is
full with love and devotion for the Father.
Soul is not bothered about herself.
Soul is only anxious to go back to the Father.
Soul is in love with the Father.
Soul is not in love with herself.
This is mind. This is ego.
Then we think, "I love myself.
I love my body. I love my property. I love my children.
I love my family. I love myself."
We are all in love with ourself.
And that is keeping us here attached to this creation.
We want to love the Father.
Know thyself means that
releasing the soul from the clutches of the mind.
Christ said, "Go, ye have become whole. Sin no more,
lest a worse thing can come unto thee."
When we become whole then
our love is only for the Father,
for nobody else in this creation.
And it becomes whole when it goes
beyond the realm of mind and maya.
And no covering of the soul is there;
and association of the mind is not there.
Needle is always attracted towards the magnet.
But if you put a weight over the needle, it becomes helpless.
That doesn't mean the needle is no more
attracted by the magnet.
The attraction is there very much -
but only helpless due to weight.
Remove the weight, automatically it will go back to magnet.
That is the condition of our soul.
Soul is constantly in love with the Father.
It doesn't love the mind at all.
Thank you very much, Maharaj Ji.
And I wish you very well.
Thank you very much.
Master, yesterday, no it wasn't yesterday.
I can't even remember when it was, a few days ago,
I talked about, I asked questions about my daughter.
Well, now I just thought of asking something about my sons.
I think that through my daughter's accident,
I’ve learned in the last three and a half years to,
to not be so attached to my children, to learn to,
day in and day out, be be ready to
let them pass on maybe.
But my sons are very strong and healthy
and they're all vegetarians and
they don't even know why they're vegetarians.
They say they don't believe in God,
but they wouldn't dare touch meat or eggs or fish.
I'm wondering should I ...
I've never pushed,
they love me so much and
you also said that if I'm drawn to you -
and someone else loves me and is drawn to me,
that they too will be drawn to the Father.
Well, I've always had that attitude
and I've never forced them to go to Satsang,
but I'm wondering, I think if I just asked them
"Well, why don't you come along to Satsang?"
I think that they probably would. Should I ...
should I read the books to my kids?
Should I maybe ask the older ones to come to Satsang?
Or should I just forget about that?
Sister, if we are not attached to our daughters or our children,
that doesn't mean that we have no responsibility
or obligation to them.
Right, that’s what I feel the responsibility.
We have to perform our responsibilities,
obligations rather more efficiently.
Yeah.
We have to fill that gap which is created,
by not attaching ourself to them.
Yeah.
As far as asking your children, you have to see their aptitude.
If you think it will be any help to them,
useful to them, you may.
Otherwise you can read the books at home,
where they can see about and if they are interested,
they'll read it.
Otherwise, don't force them.
Yeah, I, I never have forced them, but,
they say that I'm so different than my ex-husband;
he gives little discourses, you know about Sant Mat.
And with me, I don't even want to talk about it
so they always ask me and say -
Wait, now sit here and tell me'.
And so I make them, finally just, make me sit still
and I tell them something.
That's my attitude, so maybe a reverse psychology
has been working. I hope so. Thank you.
I mean, you understand them better you see
than anybody else.
I think so. Thank you, Master.
Master …
Yes, please?
The other day you said there are no lessons and
that we don't learn from our mistakes.
I'm having trouble understanding this.
We learn not to touch a hot stove because
it burns us and we learn to walk
by repeatedly trying and falling.
Hopefully, eventually we learn not to indulge in various
harmful things because they bring us pain.
It seems to me that if we pay attention to our actions
and their results and are willing to grow,
we can improve through experience.
Did you mean only, that usually we are too stubborn
to do this because we're attached to our bad habits
or is there another meaning;
would you please explain more about this point?
You see we, sister,
generally never learn from our own mistakes.
Even if we know why we are here,
what mistakes we committed in our last birth,
that we deserve to (be) here and suffer now.
Even if we know, we will do the same thing
which we did in the past lives.
Mind is so powerful.
Mind is so attached to this creation,
so attached to the senses.
Even in this life
many weaknesses we have.
We know they're wrong.
Knowing fully well it is wrong,
don't we do it again and again?
Now, smoking, even the government writes
We also know it is harmful to the health.
Do we leave it?
Some people do, Sir.
Then?
Not everybody.
No.
Do we learn from our mistakes?
Sometimes.
So statement is general.
Okay.
Not any particular people you see.
Thank you. It's not absolute then.
I had one other small thing.
When I was initiated,
they told us to meditate fifteen minutes
before we go to sleep
and it's very difficult for me to stay awake at that time
and I wondered is it really important to do this
or is it just a suggestion?
It depends upon the individual, of course, it's a suggestion.
You'll get a better sleep.
Is that the only special benefit or … ?
Only special benefit.
If you do Simran, you will, your mind is concentrated,
you'll sleep at once.
It's a good cure for insomnia.
Thank you very much, Master.
I also wish you most well.
Thank you very much for your good wishes.
Radha Soami, Maharaj Ji.
How are you doing today?
Just as yesterday.
My second question is, I have many friends,
a few that are suspicious of my being on the spiritual path,
and I do not know how to handle that situation.
What is the best way to go about it?
You know your problem. You have to deal with it.
Hmmm?
You have to deal with it.
You have not to blow trumpet that you are on the path.
That's your personal decision.
You have to live with it.
And you have to face so many odd things also,
odd situations also. You have to face them.
Okay. So, okay, alright well.
I thank you for accepting me as a disciple and
I must work hard.
Thank you very much.
I have two questions.
When what we do with the faculty
of seeing when we are in bhajan
and we haven't reached to the level of hearing the sound?
Faculty to see, you see,
when you see the light
that will be occupied.
Before?
Faculty to see.
Otherwise, keep your attention in the darkness here
and do and hear the sound.
Just be here and hear the sound.
And second question …
It's been many years
since I've seen you and I don't know when
I'll see you again.
When we're in your presence it's
easier to be clear about what's important.
How do we keep that clarity when we go back to our homes?
By attending to meditation,
keeping your meditation in your mind.
Thank you.
When all reality is Shabd,
why do we need a Satguru to connect us with it?
When you will know the reality, then you won’t need it.
Now you think you are body;
you are mind; you are senses;
you are part of the creation.
You have forgotten your reality.
When you realize your reality, then there will no necessity.
Then you’ll be part of the Master.
You follow my point?
Sant Mat gurus should not do miracles
and should not work with paranormal actions.
Why do we need to go home
to get initiation there?
It seems to me very paranormal
because it's such a great distance.
I am not following your point.
Satgurus of Sant Mat
do not do any miracles, any paranormal actions.
Brother, normally they don't do miracles.
They don't collect people by performing miracles,
but miracles do happen in their saint’s life.
They’re so kind, so soft-hearted, but here and there some
odd things, call them miracles, do happen.
Nothing wrong with it.
Initiation – is it a miracle? Initiation?
Initiation is no miracle.
How is it, how do you call it a miracle?
What does happen at the time of initiation
in course of Shabd?
Yes.
It is there. What is happening with it?
Shabd is always there.
We are just brought in touch with that.
We know the process of being in touch with the Shabd.
That is initiation.
And the people who have heard the
up-drawing Shabd before, do they also need initiation?
Yes, they do.
And why?
Because they don't know how to do it.
Thank you.
Master, over here.
I came here because I felt pulled to come
and, but what I hoped to get was to satisfy my mind,
my intellect and what I'm finding is that
I keep going around in circles. I get confused.
I see, I hear things that sound contradictory to me
and I try to figure them out and,
I just, I keep getting caught up in analyzing
like I try to figure out
that maybe it doesn't mean that,
it means this and I try to interpret it
and I'm wondering if,
if I need to keep trying to satisfy that or if I just
should accept on faith that some things I won't understand yet.
I mean some things we can't understand until
we merge with God. Is that right?
Sister, it depends upon what is bothering you.
I can't generalize your statement.
Well, okay, one thing is the question of free will
because I've heard you say we have no free will
but I've also read that you said we have limited free will
and also that we should try to do our best
and I guess I'm not clear as to whether ...
It is immaterial.
What?
It is immaterial. We don't understand all this.
Okay. So that’s one of the things that we can’t really ...
Because at this level we can never understand it.
You see, so many times I told you from a higher
scale, there's no free will - because first thing
when the Lord created this creation,
we were never consulted to be a part of this creation.
If we had free will, we would have remained
to be His part, rather than part of the creation.
Where was the free will, when we were
pushed down to this creation.
Then we were pushed down to the level of the mind.
That we had no free will.
Then mind is fond of senses.
Mind is also, has become slave of senses.
Where is the free will?
So maybe we have a tiny bit
but it's so little it doesn't matter?
Christ said, … you see sometimes saints
talk from a higher level.
Sometimes from our human level.
From a higher level, He says:
“Even the hair on the body are numbered."
What will you interpret it?
You must have read the bible.
Yeah ... I
Even the hair on the body are numbered.
Where is the free will?
And what difference (does) it make whether you have
ten hair on the body, less or more.
Yeah okay.
Doesn't make any difference. Nothing.
No, not to me.
Guru Nanak says, “Even the leaf of a tree
doesn't move without His order."
Same expression.
And Guru Nanak came
after fifteen hundred years after Christ.
He spoke in a different language, in a different country,
in different circumstances.
Christ was in a different country,
spoke in a different language.
They had no means of communication with each other.
Never knew each other's languages,
speaking the same spiritual truths.
Even other mystics have said the same thing.
Then it is not in our hand where to be born;
so it is not our hand to select mother and father,
select brother and sisters,
select our schooling, select our environments,
our education facilities,
our surroundings in which we are brought up.
And our thinking is all conditioned by all these circumstances,
by our parentage, heritage, by our brothers and sisters,
by our friends, by our schooling,
by our neighbors, by our childhood living.
Our whole thinking is conditioned by all that.
We think I'm making my own decision.
We forget,
the mind which is deciding this particular question,
how much mind has been grooved by the heritage,
by the brother and sister,
by our friends, by our environments, by our education,
by the country in which we have been born.
We ignore that.
If you keep all that in
at the back of it, then no free will.
If you ignore all that then you have free will.
It's a question of only understanding it
from which level you are talking about.
Okay.
Our level, we say we have free will.
From His level there's no free will.
Okay, thank you. I have one more question.
My daughter is six and she wanted me to ask you this
and I'd like to be able to tell her an answer.
She wants to know why you're so smart.
Smart? What is your definition of smart?
I don't know. It was her question.
Probably she has not met any smart person yet.
Okay, thank you.
Master …
Yes please?
Does Jesus reside in the region of Sat Lok?
Did Jesus ...
Does Jesus reside in the region of Sat Lok?
Reside in the region ...?
of Sat Lok.
What is Sat Lok?
Well, according to the book I've been reading about,
- Path of the Masters -
it’s the inner region with Radha Soami.
Sat Lok. You mean Sat Lok.
I think so, yes.
I couldn't understand the word, you see.
Well, Jesus knows better where He is.
I am nobody to comment over it.
About any mystic's spiritual progress,
about their place in the regions and those mansions,
I am nobody to comment.
Master, in that same book,
the perfect Master was saying about where
some of the mystics lived quite openly but
I've been searching for ...
and I have been encouraged to search intellectually,
being a seeker,
for the, for that answer.
Apparently it was answered one time
and I can’t find where but, I’m ...
Well, if Master has said something He knows best.
I can’t comment over it.
Thank you, Master.
Master,
in the separation, is the separation of the soul
from the Lord just an illusion?
When we eventually return to Sach Khand
is it in fact that we have never left?
Is the separation an illusion?
Pardon, pardon? Just, just explain again.
Okay. Is the separation of the soul
from Sach Khand, just an illusion?
When we eventually return to Sach Khand,
is it in fact that we have never really left?
Yes, you forget about what was your past.
You see, the lover becomes so happy to be
in the presence of the Beloved.
He forgets all the separation which he has suffered
in the separation.
He doesn't remain conscious of the separation at all.
He doesn't, he has absolutely forgotten
what he had to go through in the separation.
How hard he has to work to achieve that union.
He just forgets everything.
He's so absorbed in his Beloved, so absorbed in his love.
He's not conscious of all that at all.
He's only conscious of the Beloved.
For him nothing but his Beloved exist.
All things are dead for him in life.
So question of thinking past or separation does not arise.
Radha Soami, Master.
I wanted to ask you please,
when one's karmas overtake one
and one's meditation seems to be very bad;
one's concentration goes;
there's a lot of confusion in one's life;
your balance goes.
Does one just weather the storm and wait for it to pass
or is there anything practical
that you could advise us to do?
Can you simplify your question?
When we are very involved in our karmas …
When we are … ?
very involved in our karmas …
and they seem to, take over our whole life
and our meditation seems to suffer very badly,
we can’t think of anything else,
but the problems that we’re involved in,
about the karmas we’re involved in.
I wondered if there was anything that we could do
to, overcome this problem
or do we just have to wait and weather the storm
and wait for it to pass.
Sister,
we should try to solve our problem
with our best thinking, best intention.
We should not try to put off the problem
and wait for some better time to come.
We have to deal and we have to live day by day.
Every ... we have problem at every step of our life.
We can’t ignore them, we have to solve them.
So with our best intention,
we should try to solve those problems.
It’s just, the thing that really worries me
is that the way it overtakes the meditation
and meditation becomes so difficult.
Naturally, because mind is involved in that problem
and doesn’t concentrate.
Ok – thank you very much.
Master, my question is about
a sharp pain I’ve often felt above my eyebrows.
You mean, you're sad in seeing
things within yourself or outside everywhere?
Outside usually.
Outside, then?
Well, outside and inside.
I'm usually involved in what I see and it upsets me.
Then?
And I get this pain.
Pain where?
In my forehead.
Yes?
And I wondered if it was connected with the Path
’cause I talked to other Satsangis that has experienced it also.
No, no, see. It is your attitude.
It's just your attitude of the mind
that you can't face those situations.
You can't live with those situations which is …
which is making you suffer.
Try to solve those suffering if you can,
but don't suffer yourself along with them.
So it's because I can't accept; is that what it is?
Yes, yes, you don't accept the situation.
Try to help, if you can render any help.
Otherwise accept it.
Why suffer yourself?
Thank you.
Radha Soami, Master.
Yes?
Me and my wife is going to leave tonight
so we just want to thank you
for being so kind to let us be here with you,
this very short period but very intense.
Thank you very much.
Brother, sister, I have told you many times,
you don't have to thank me for anything.
This institution belongs to all of you.
You made me happy. Thank you.
You are most welcome.
Maharaj Ji, over here.
Yes?
This disciple too wants to thank you for taking us
all by the hand towards the Lord and a question.
For those of us who work with
people with psychological problems, you have advised us
to focus on the science of our profession,
to stay away from spiritual healing.
My question is, is it all right to suggest exercises
that concentrate the mind such as focusing on the breath
or repeating names of love that they choose themselves?
This may be helpful physically or mentally but is it
harmful spiritually?
Sister, you shouldn't say that.
That's a part of meditation, so to say.
The concentrating in any way?
How would they concentrate?
How would they?
The idea of focusing on the breath,
but that is like meditation?
That sometime can lead to complications.
These breathing exercises unless properly performed,
leads to all sorts of complications in the body.
So it should be avoided?
Many people try to read books,
they start doing breathing exercises,
pranayama and they end into lot of complications;
asthma and so many other things are created.
To avoid it?
Yes, this is also a particular technique
by which they are doing it.
Is there any basic rule of thumb,
clear principle to hold in mind
when working with people about the boundary
between mental and spiritual?
Psychologically you can, psychologically you can,
psychologically means one has to be a good friend.
One has to open another person.
He's so closed.
He's keeping his own problem within himself.
He doesn't want to divulge.
He doesn't want to share with anybody.
He doesn't trust anybody.
He wants to keep it within himself.
So he's just becoming miserable because he can't off-load it.
Psychologically mean you have to try to win his confidence.
Try to become his best friend,
so that he may open it to you and lighten himself.
That was the purpose of confession in the churches.
What did they do?
They never redeemed them from their sins.
Just made them light. They heard their problems.
They wanted somebody to say, to tell,
which they could not tell to everybody,
such heinous crimes they do sometimes.
They cannot share with anybody.
They're frightened,
but to Father they trust, they say
and they feel light.
That is the purpose of psychologist.
I understand.
He has to be their friend.
He has to win their confidence.
And, and every patient doesn't trust the psychologist.
They try to keep everything within themself unless
he, I mean they feel that they can trust the other person,
by his love, by his so many other ways and means.
It is for the doctor to open that patient.
Medically, just giving a pill
and giving a medicine to treat him.
Psychologically means you have to become his best friend
so that he may share with you all his problems
and his problem will be solved the moment he shares.
Very helpful. Thank you.
Master,
I wanted to just,
I don't know how to say this without it
sounding like a complaint
but I'm always feeling very discouraged in this world
and I feel also very far away from
my own path even though it seems like
it's the best thing that ever happened to me
and I feel helpless about this.
My attitude, I want it to be much lighter
and much more peaceful
and I know that the world is not it
but yet the path, it seems so difficult
and not that that's a complaint, I just feel weak hearted.
Sister, it is difficult, but
it has to be followed, no other way.
Child before starting,
learning to walk, he finds it impossible to do it,
but when he continues
and passes through so many phases,
he learns to walk; he learns to run,
because he continues putting in effort,
so we should just continue.
And if you continue even though your efforts seem
very, very, very small ...
It doesn't make any difference as long as we continue.
And some day you can feel that's …
you can feel happy about that,
you can feel light about it?
Yes, yes ... because the beggar's work is to knock
and that knock doesn't go waste.
There's always somebody to respond.
When we are sincere in knocking,
it is a small effort.
We shouldn't worry about it.
Thank you, Master.
Radha Soami, Maharaj Ji.
Maharaj Ji, sometimes
concentration in meditation is very, seems very poor,
almost non-existent sometimes and
during these times is there anything that I can do
to keep feeling a personal connection with you?
Sit in meditation whether you are able to concentrate or not.
We should try to attend to meditation.
So, do I just have to …
Even as a matter of duty.
Even then it will help us.
Do I have to just go through those times when I feel
less connected and it's very painful?
Don't worry connected or not connected, that's not our job.
That's His job.
But we should try to give time.
Okay. Thank you. Radha Soami.
Master, did I remember correctly, did I,
do I remember that you said
the other evening, I'm on your left, Maharaj Ji.
Do I remember you saying that -
Master is the Sangat and the Sangat is the Master?
What?
I think the other evening, Maharaj Ji you said those words.
I say, "Master belongs to Sangat; Sangat belongs to Master".
Can you explain that relationship to me?
It's very clear.
People ... it was in connection with the seva
people are performing for the Sangat.
I said they do seva to the Sangat
because Sangat belongs to the Master,
and Master belongs to the Sangat.
They serve the institution and institution belong to the Master.
They serve the Master;
Master's in charge of the institution.
So, it comes to the same thing.
It was only in connection with seva we were discussing.
The other thing I'd like to ask Maharaj Ji,
Professor yesterday said that when referring to the
light within that is like a window,
a window opens.
Does this mean that the light comes
all at once or does it come gradually like the dawn?
You see,
first you were explained at the time of Initiation,
you see the flashes of light.
It comes and goes; it comes and goes.
Light doesn't come and go.
Light is always there.
It is our mind.
When it is there - you see the light.
When it drops down, you see the darkness.
And so, you feel it is flashes.
Actually it is not flashes.
Just like lightening in the rainy season at night.
It's not flashes.
Light is absolutely there, clear, always there
it's our mind just concentrates, then again drops down.
Just concentrates and again drops down.
So then we feel there are flashes.
That is how we begin.
Master, here to your right.
Master, could you please explain to us
what is spiritual healing?
I have never done it. I don't know.
What is spiritual healing? Is it a fad? Or …
it has something in it. I know nothing about it.
What is it that we're not supposed to do?
Well, you're not to waste your spirituality in healing anybody.
That is what I mean to say.
Whether, how much spiritual healer helps you, I don't know.
And what they do, I can't comment.
Thank you, Master.
Radha Soami, Master.
As I'm sitting here, I'm feeling more and more angry because,
listening to the questions and hearing a lot of
disrespectful, questions to you.
Disrespectful? There is no disrespect at all.
Why do you analyze it in that way?
I don't know. I just feel a lot of the questions,
the people give you a lot of disrespect.
No, no, there's no disrespect.
At least I don't take it in that way.
When I don't take it, why should you worry?
But how come like, the western people are so
intellectual, compared to the Indian ...
Their only object is that I should
stay here till seven o'clock.
Thank you.
So I know they're not serious, so I'm also not serious.
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