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you Google your name and daddy 1.5

you Google your name and daddy 1.5 million things come up you seem to be

million things come up you seem to be

million things come up you seem to be having fun with it uh yeah I am having

having fun with it uh yeah I am having

having fun with it uh yeah I am having fun with it

fun with it

fun with it it seems a little role related I think

it seems a little role related I think

it seems a little role related I think the Mandalorian is very Daddy to Baby

the Mandalorian is very Daddy to Baby

the Mandalorian is very Daddy to Baby grogu Joel is very Daddy to Ellie these

grogu Joel is very Daddy to Ellie these

grogu Joel is very Daddy to Ellie these are daddy Parts yeah that's what it is

are daddy Parts yeah that's what it is

are daddy Parts yeah that's what it is I'm not a daddy I'm not gonna be a daddy

I'm not a daddy I'm not gonna be a daddy

I'm not a daddy I'm not gonna be a daddy I'm a Daddy nobody likes my daddy

I'm a Daddy nobody likes my daddy

I'm a Daddy nobody likes my daddy [Laughter]

[Laughter]

[Laughter] oh

hi and welcome to the Hollywood Reporter

hi and welcome to the Hollywood Reporter Roundtable I'm your moderator with Lacey

Roundtable I'm your moderator with Lacey

Roundtable I'm your moderator with Lacey Rose thank you for being here yeah all

Rose thank you for being here yeah all

Rose thank you for being here yeah all right we're going to be here

right we're going to be here

right we're going to be here I'm going to start with what I hope is a

I'm going to start with what I hope is a

I'm going to start with what I hope is a is an easy question when a fan comes up

is an easy question when a fan comes up

is an easy question when a fan comes up to each of you on the street what are

to each of you on the street what are

to each of you on the street what are they likely to know you from and what do

they likely to know you from and what do

they likely to know you from and what do they typically say like what's the thing

they typically say like what's the thing

they typically say like what's the thing you get the most

you get the most

you get the most the new one which is weird people feel

the new one which is weird people feel

the new one which is weird people feel like they can touch me oh hey man hell

like they can touch me oh hey man hell

like they can touch me oh hey man hell yeah that thing what is that

a stroller and the guy just grabs and

a stroller and the guy just grabs and does one he's like hey man love your

does one he's like hey man love your

does one he's like hey man love your show and I said no touchy and that was

show and I said no touchy and that was

show and I said no touchy and that was that was like as aggressive as I could

that was like as aggressive as I could

that was like as aggressive as I could be no touchy I could have defended my

be no touchy I could have defended my

be no touchy I could have defended my kids a little bit better than that but

kids a little bit better than that but

kids a little bit better than that but I'm apparently married to everyone I'm

I'm apparently married to everyone I'm

I'm apparently married to everyone I'm apparently everyone's husband

apparently everyone's husband

apparently everyone's husband how does that get presented exactly hey

how does that get presented exactly hey

how does that get presented exactly hey husband oh dinner's ready yeah and then

husband oh dinner's ready yeah and then

husband oh dinner's ready yeah and then they follow me and then I need to jump

they follow me and then I need to jump

they follow me and then I need to jump in the SUV and throw out

yeah I get that one all the time too

yeah I get that one all the time too I remember early because of Game of

I remember early because of Game of

I remember early because of Game of Thrones and uh the way that my character

Thrones and uh the way that my character

Thrones and uh the way that my character died speaking of touching people were

died speaking of touching people were

died speaking of touching people were super into taking selfies with um their

super into taking selfies with um their

super into taking selfies with um their thumbs in my eyes

thumbs in my eyes

thumbs in my eyes uh yeah that's a lot of trust and at

uh yeah that's a lot of trust and at

uh yeah that's a lot of trust and at first it was a stranger and it was it

first it was a stranger and it was it

first it was a stranger and it was it and at first I was um I was so kind of

and at first I was um I was so kind of

and at first I was um I was so kind of earnest and and and happy about the

earnest and and and happy about the

earnest and and and happy about the success of the character in the show and

success of the character in the show and

success of the character in the show and I uh would let them in New York

I uh would let them in New York

I uh would let them in New York and um you would let them go like all

and um you would let them go like all

and um you would let them go like all places and uh and I remember getting a

places and uh and I remember getting a

places and uh and I remember getting a little bit of an eye infection and then

little bit of an eye infection and then

little bit of an eye infection and then I was gonna say it's like a thing that's

I was gonna say it's like a thing that's

I was gonna say it's like a thing that's a thing it had yeah it was so you didn't

a thing it had yeah it was so you didn't

a thing it had yeah it was so you didn't ask someone it's coming back

ask someone it's coming back

ask someone it's coming back hence the glasses right yeah exactly

hence the glasses right yeah exactly

hence the glasses right yeah exactly protection all right Jeff what do you

protection all right Jeff what do you

protection all right Jeff what do you get what if it's

a dig Lebowski it's such a good movie it

a dig Lebowski it's such a good movie it is great isn't it just those brothers

is great isn't it just those brothers

is great isn't it just those brothers that know how to do it put all of those

that know how to do it put all of those

that know how to do it put all of those things together like this the quote from

things together like this the quote from

things together like this the quote from that movie it's a very quotable movie

that movie it's a very quotable movie

that movie it's a very quotable movie but for some reason the one that I've

but for some reason the one that I've

but for some reason the one that I've extracted I use a lot because there's

extracted I use a lot because there's

extracted I use a lot because there's never a context for it is nice Marmot

never a context for it is nice Marmot

never a context for it is nice Marmot it feels like there's some alone in the

it feels like there's some alone in the

it feels like there's some alone in the conversation at this point that

conversation at this point that

conversation at this point that somebody's plant or something nice

somebody's plant or something nice

somebody's plant or something nice seriously all right Evan what about you

seriously all right Evan what about you

seriously all right Evan what about you yeah mostly American Horror Story and

yeah mostly American Horror Story and

yeah mostly American Horror Story and like what do they say

like what do they say

like what do they say can I take a picture

can I take a picture

can I take a picture I've seen your show yeah that's fully

I've seen your show yeah that's fully

I've seen your show yeah that's fully creeped me out nice Marmot thank you

creeped me out nice Marmot thank you

creeped me out nice Marmot thank you very much just very nice and just wants

very much just very nice and just wants

very much just very nice and just wants a photo and do you take pitches do you

a photo and do you take pitches do you

a photo and do you take pitches do you always do you guys always take pictures

always do you guys always take pictures

always do you guys always take pictures I have a rule now when I'm with my kids

I have a rule now when I'm with my kids

I have a rule now when I'm with my kids okay well now the whole fan thing is a

okay well now the whole fan thing is a

okay well now the whole fan thing is a different deal I mean when I huh is it I

different deal I mean when I huh is it I

different deal I mean when I huh is it I mean now it's a pro that's a pro thing

mean now it's a pro that's a pro thing

mean now it's a pro that's a pro thing because they collect them and sell them

because they collect them and sell them

because they collect them and sell them and it's a way of making money and

and it's a way of making money and

and it's a way of making money and people don't differentiate between who's

people don't differentiate between who's

people don't differentiate between who's doing that

they tend to go like this I've noticed

they tend to go like this I've noticed like that's like they see you and then

like that's like they see you and then

like that's like they see you and then they do like the grab the phone and try

they do like the grab the phone and try

they do like the grab the phone and try to take a picture and if I'm with my

to take a picture and if I'm with my

to take a picture and if I'm with my kids I get angry and I'll just be I'll

kids I get angry and I'll just be I'll

kids I get angry and I'll just be I'll go like that's rude and they'll be like

go like that's rude and they'll be like

go like that's rude and they'll be like ah yeah I'm like no it's actually very

ah yeah I'm like no it's actually very

ah yeah I'm like no it's actually very rude these are my children they're like

rude these are my children they're like

rude these are my children they're like imagine if I went to a playground

imagine if I went to a playground

imagine if I went to a playground started taking pictures yeah no freaking

started taking pictures yeah no freaking

started taking pictures yeah no freaking weird I just don't want that interaction

weird I just don't want that interaction

weird I just don't want that interaction like yeah add that one when I'm by

like yeah add that one when I'm by

like yeah add that one when I'm by myself I just leave it Michael what do

myself I just leave it Michael what do

myself I just leave it Michael what do you get I get the dude which I don't

you get I get the dude which I don't

you get I get the dude which I don't understand because I wasn't in the movie

understand because I wasn't in the movie

understand because I wasn't in the movie and I'm not Jeff Bridges no um The

and I'm not Jeff Bridges no um The

and I'm not Jeff Bridges no um The Sopranos for a long time until this last

Sopranos for a long time until this last

Sopranos for a long time until this last year and then a lot of people from White

year and then a lot of people from White

year and then a lot of people from White a lot of young people from White a lot

a lot of young people from White a lot

a lot of young people from White a lot of young people like

of young people like

of young people like you know that some people want to take a

you know that some people want to take a

you know that some people want to take a picture with me pretending I have a gun

picture with me pretending I have a gun

picture with me pretending I have a gun to their head and I never will do that

to their head and I never will do that

to their head and I never will do that good okay I don't do that I'll strangle

good okay I don't do that I'll strangle

good okay I don't do that I'll strangle them but not for the gun there's the

them but not for the gun there's the

them but not for the gun there's the line okay uh sometimes they do they ask

line okay uh sometimes they do they ask

line okay uh sometimes they do they ask yeah put like pretend you're shooting me

yeah put like pretend you're shooting me

yeah put like pretend you're shooting me like no man I'm like I'm weird that's

like no man I'm like I'm weird that's

like no man I'm like I'm weird that's horrible that's a bad Vibe yeah nope I

horrible that's a bad Vibe yeah nope I

horrible that's a bad Vibe yeah nope I would say that's fair okay so you're all

would say that's fair okay so you're all

would say that's fair okay so you're all here because of of these projects that

here because of of these projects that

here because of of these projects that that have really broken through and are

that have really broken through and are

that have really broken through and are phenomenal I'm curious and and be honest

phenomenal I'm curious and and be honest

phenomenal I'm curious and and be honest here if anyone had any sort of

here if anyone had any sort of

here if anyone had any sort of hesitations reservations going into them

hesitations reservations going into them

hesitations reservations going into them I I definitely I didn't want to play any

I I definitely I didn't want to play any

I I definitely I didn't want to play any more bad guys I was like not doing that

more bad guys I was like not doing that

more bad guys I was like not doing that anymore and then of course I read the

anymore and then of course I read the

anymore and then of course I read the scripts and uh

scripts and uh

scripts and uh I don't know I just I I felt I didn't

I don't know I just I I felt I didn't

I don't know I just I I felt I didn't first of all I didn't know the story and

first of all I didn't know the story and

first of all I didn't know the story and then the case of Jeffrey Dahmer and uh

then the case of Jeffrey Dahmer and uh

then the case of Jeffrey Dahmer and uh I I think I was just yeah I was pretty

I I think I was just yeah I was pretty

I I think I was just yeah I was pretty upset about uh just the the

upset about uh just the the

upset about uh just the the the amount of times that the police

the amount of times that the police

the amount of times that the police department and the justice system failed

department and the justice system failed

department and the justice system failed to stop him

to stop him

to stop him um because of racism homophobia

um because of racism homophobia

um because of racism homophobia Prejudice uh it was just uh

Prejudice uh it was just uh

Prejudice uh it was just uh it was too much it was it was way too

it was too much it was it was way too

it was too much it was it was way too much and so I was really compelled to

much and so I was really compelled to

much and so I was really compelled to try to push myself and try to

try to push myself and try to

try to push myself and try to dig in into that and see

dig in into that and see

dig in into that and see um

um really just give it 120 you know uh and

really just give it 120 you know uh and

really just give it 120 you know uh and and it was going to be an incredible

and it was going to be an incredible

and it was going to be an incredible challenge but I felt like the message of

challenge but I felt like the message of

challenge but I felt like the message of the the piece was was worth it to do

the the piece was was worth it to do

the the piece was was worth it to do that that idea of like not wanting to

that that idea of like not wanting to

that that idea of like not wanting to play any more bad guys why not what does

play any more bad guys why not what does

play any more bad guys why not what does that do to you

that do to you

that do to you why not yeah oh they're just um

why not yeah oh they're just um

why not yeah oh they're just um it's just it's

it's just it's

it's just it's it's just incredibly difficult I mean

it's just incredibly difficult I mean

it's just incredibly difficult I mean you guys I mean you guys characters are

you guys I mean you guys characters are

you guys I mean you guys characters are all um

all um

all um even even you Karen you know it's

even even you Karen you know it's

even even you Karen you know it's incredibly

incredibly

incredibly dramatic and sad you got the things that

dramatic and sad you got the things that

dramatic and sad you got the things that you guys are going through so

you guys are going through so

you guys are going through so um yeah I'm I'm curious Jeep with you

um yeah I'm I'm curious Jeep with you

um yeah I'm I'm curious Jeep with you guys

but can I ask do you find that it's easy

but can I ask do you find that it's easy for you to like pop in and out of that

for you to like pop in and out of that

for you to like pop in and out of that like at the end of the day like you

like at the end of the day like you

like at the end of the day like you you're doing a difficult scene as

you're doing a difficult scene as

you're doing a difficult scene as Jeffrey Dahmer and then go all right I'm

Jeffrey Dahmer and then go all right I'm

Jeffrey Dahmer and then go all right I'm gonna go home and have some soup shower

gonna go home and have some soup shower

gonna go home and have some soup shower is it easy no no it's it's it's no it's

is it easy no no it's it's it's no it's

is it easy no no it's it's it's no it's it's really difficult and how long was

it's really difficult and how long was

it's really difficult and how long was the shoot like that it was it was like

the shoot like that it was it was like

the shoot like that it was it was like six and a half months that's six and a

six and a half months that's six and a

six and a half months that's six and a half months of that sort of hanging over

half months of that sort of hanging over

half months of that sort of hanging over you yeah plus prep which is another

you yeah plus prep which is another

you yeah plus prep which is another several months of oh geez yeah it was

several months of oh geez yeah it was

several months of oh geez yeah it was about four months of prep and you're

about four months of prep and you're

about four months of prep and you're wearing weights on your hands and yeah

wearing weights on your hands and yeah

wearing weights on your hands and yeah it was it was it was um

it was it was it was um

it was it was it was um yeah I watched the um I watched The

yeah I watched the um I watched The

yeah I watched the um I watched The Stone Phillips Dateline interview of him

Stone Phillips Dateline interview of him

Stone Phillips Dateline interview of him and and that was sort of when I saw that

and and that was sort of when I saw that

and and that was sort of when I saw that and and the way that he spoke I was like

and and the way that he spoke I was like

and and the way that he spoke I was like oh my before it even decided to do it I

oh my before it even decided to do it I

oh my before it even decided to do it I was like I have to start working on this

was like I have to start working on this

was like I have to start working on this now

now

now um to to try to figure out how he spoke

um to to try to figure out how he spoke

um to to try to figure out how he spoke the accident he moved weirdly he very

the accident he moved weirdly he very

the accident he moved weirdly he very straight back he doesn't move his arms

straight back he doesn't move his arms

straight back he doesn't move his arms when he walks he's just a very odd man

when he walks he's just a very odd man

when he walks he's just a very odd man uh so I wanted to try to work on that um

uh so I wanted to try to work on that um

uh so I wanted to try to work on that um for as long as I could because that's

for as long as I could because that's

for as long as I could because that's the thing you only get one shot at it

the thing you only get one shot at it

the thing you only get one shot at it you know and then it's done and and uh

you know and then it's done and and uh

you know and then it's done and and uh terrifying it's terrifying so I just

terrifying it's terrifying so I just

terrifying it's terrifying so I just tried to spend as much time as I could

tried to spend as much time as I could

tried to spend as much time as I could every waking moment working on it

every waking moment working on it

every waking moment working on it working on it working on it before we

working on it working on it before we

working on it working on it before we started shooting and even while we were

started shooting and even while we were

started shooting and even while we were working on it um

working on it um

working on it um yeah the question you just asked is a

yeah the question you just asked is a

yeah the question you just asked is a really sort of poignant one I mean for

really sort of poignant one I mean for

really sort of poignant one I mean for the recipe these are dark places that

the recipe these are dark places that

the recipe these are dark places that you're inhabiting when at the end of the

you're inhabiting when at the end of the

you're inhabiting when at the end of the day can you go have your soup and be you

day can you go have your soup and be you

day can you go have your soup and be you or are you and and how does that sort of

or are you and and how does that sort of

or are you and and how does that sort of weigh on you something that I've

weigh on you something that I've

weigh on you something that I've actually found strange

actually found strange

actually found strange to discover later in life the fact that

to discover later in life the fact that

to discover later in life the fact that it does weigh on you in the way that it

it does weigh on you in the way that it

it does weigh on you in the way that it can because I have always felt like um

can because I have always felt like um

can because I have always felt like um uh forced myself to not be romantic

uh forced myself to not be romantic

uh forced myself to not be romantic about the process and um and that

about the process and um and that

about the process and um and that doesn't mean to not take it totally

doesn't mean to not take it totally

doesn't mean to not take it totally seriously but like I can't leave it at

seriously but like I can't leave it at

seriously but like I can't leave it at home and it's like bad guys are fun you

home and it's like bad guys are fun you

home and it's like bad guys are fun you know and

know and

know and um uh I love exploring that kind of

um uh I love exploring that kind of

um uh I love exploring that kind of stuff but I've realized the older that I

stuff but I've realized the older that I

stuff but I've realized the older that I get that it doesn't matter really what

get that it doesn't matter really what

get that it doesn't matter really what you do you you it's stuff is going to

you do you you it's stuff is going to

you do you you it's stuff is going to um come home with you

um come home with you

um come home with you um yeah yeah even if it's not you like

um yeah yeah even if it's not you like

um yeah yeah even if it's not you like like you're physically going through

like you're physically going through

like you're physically going through something so your body has some sort of

something so your body has some sort of

something so your body has some sort of sense memory there's something going on

sense memory there's something going on

sense memory there's something going on it was a strange yeah nothing it just I

it was a strange yeah nothing it just I

it was a strange yeah nothing it just I just felt like I was really naive about

just felt like I was really naive about

just felt like I was really naive about it in the past and or that it was a

it in the past and or that it was a

it in the past and or that it was a decision it was a choice like I refuse

decision it was a choice like I refuse

decision it was a choice like I refuse to sort of indulge that these boundaries

to sort of indulge that these boundaries

to sort of indulge that these boundaries get blurred and um and and there isn't

get blurred and um and and there isn't

get blurred and um and and there isn't really a way to

really a way to

really a way to um keep that from happening I've

um keep that from happening I've

um keep that from happening I've discovered

discovered

discovered um yeah I was I remember sometime we do

um yeah I was I remember sometime we do

um yeah I was I remember sometime we do 10 episodes for my show and in this last

10 episodes for my show and in this last

10 episodes for my show and in this last season

season

season um I was hitting a block right I was

um I was hitting a block right I was

um I was hitting a block right I was like oh I'm not doing it right right so

like oh I'm not doing it right right so

like oh I'm not doing it right right so I went in the corner and then I was

I went in the corner and then I was

I went in the corner and then I was looking at the wall and I was like come

looking at the wall and I was like come

looking at the wall and I was like come on devil come on devil right come to me

on devil come on devil right come to me

on devil come on devil right come to me like come to me because I had to do

like come to me because I had to do

like come to me because I had to do something like crazy right

something like crazy right

something like crazy right had nightmares for a month

had nightmares for a month

had nightmares for a month so it does come after like I had

so it does come after like I had

so it does come after like I had nightmares every day like I just felt I

nightmares every day like I just felt I

nightmares every day like I just felt I felt that energy oh interesting you know

felt that energy oh interesting you know

felt that energy oh interesting you know and I had to pray and do all this stuff

and I had to pray and do all this stuff

and I had to pray and do all this stuff to like get rid of it and you know you

to like get rid of it and you know you

to like get rid of it and you know you call your mom up and you're like bring

call your mom up and you're like bring

call your mom up and you're like bring me back to life and that stuff is real

me back to life and that stuff is real

me back to life and that stuff is real that stuff really is real I think I was

that stuff really is real I think I was

that stuff really is real I think I was kidding myself as well I think you know

kidding myself as well I think you know

kidding myself as well I think you know when I see my kids that's off it's gone

when I see my kids that's off it's gone

when I see my kids that's off it's gone and you know bath time bedtime all the

and you know bath time bedtime all the

and you know bath time bedtime all the stuff and then they go to bed and

stuff and then they go to bed and

stuff and then they go to bed and they're like I'm not sleeping well or

they're like I'm not sleeping well or

they're like I'm not sleeping well or there's something you know

there's something you know

there's something you know did you what did you learn something out

did you what did you learn something out

did you what did you learn something out of that like what were you left with

of that like what were you left with

of that like what were you left with that was something positive that you

that was something positive that you

that was something positive that you might use

might use

might use down the line for something I think

down the line for something I think

down the line for something I think I don't know I think ultimately I

I don't know I think ultimately I

I don't know I think ultimately I learned

learned

learned well certainly the the case changed the

well certainly the the case changed the

well certainly the the case changed the way I looked at the world and our

way I looked at the world and our

way I looked at the world and our society but

society but

society but but I think for me personally I think it

but I think for me personally I think it

but I think for me personally I think it was it was uh I kind of learned what I

was it was uh I kind of learned what I

was it was uh I kind of learned what I could do what I what I can't do and what

could do what I what I can't do and what

could do what I what I can't do and what I need to work on

I need to work on

I need to work on um in terms of also sort of being

um in terms of also sort of being

um in terms of also sort of being uh because it was such a massive

uh because it was such a massive

uh because it was such a massive collaborative effort I mean like

collaborative effort I mean like

collaborative effort I mean like everybody worked so hard on on this

everybody worked so hard on on this

everybody worked so hard on on this thing to try to deliver that message

thing to try to deliver that message

thing to try to deliver that message that was such the intention going into

that was such the intention going into

that was such the intention going into it and like really you know our DP was

it and like really you know our DP was

it and like really you know our DP was incredible all the directors were

incredible all the directors were

incredible all the directors were incredible and it was just such a um a

incredible and it was just such a um a

incredible and it was just such a um a great community and one thing that I

great community and one thing that I

great community and one thing that I learned um actually this was working on

learned um actually this was working on

learned um actually this was working on on mayor of East Town I Kate Winslet

on mayor of East Town I Kate Winslet

on mayor of East Town I Kate Winslet Kate Winslet is a is a [ __ ]

Kate Winslet is a is a [ __ ]

Kate Winslet is a is a [ __ ] incredible

incredible

incredible person I mean an amazing actress but

person I mean an amazing actress but

person I mean an amazing actress but also just what a leader I mean she leads

also just what a leader I mean she leads

also just what a leader I mean she leads the set she talks to everybody she's

the set she talks to everybody she's

the set she talks to everybody she's compassionate towards every [ __ ]

compassionate towards every [ __ ]

compassionate towards every [ __ ] person on that set and I really looked

person on that set and I really looked

person on that set and I really looked up to that you know so I tried to

up to that you know so I tried to

up to that you know so I tried to carry that with me throughout shooting

carry that with me throughout shooting

carry that with me throughout shooting that and

that and

that and I think when you're working with a huge

I think when you're working with a huge

I think when you're working with a huge group of people like that with it with

group of people like that with it with

group of people like that with it with the same goal in mind it just it it

the same goal in mind it just it it

the same goal in mind it just it it becomes an amazing team and I think it's

becomes an amazing team and I think it's

becomes an amazing team and I think it's it's it's important to um

it's it's important to um

it's it's important to um I don't know to help be a good leader

I don't know to help be a good leader

I don't know to help be a good leader during that and and uh but at the same

during that and and uh but at the same

during that and and uh but at the same time the characters isolation right so

time the characters isolation right so

time the characters isolation right so yeah just for the process I mean having

yeah just for the process I mean having

yeah just for the process I mean having to tell someone how your weekend was

to tell someone how your weekend was

to tell someone how your weekend was when you're trying to get into a place

when you're trying to get into a place

when you're trying to get into a place well that's the thing it's an

well that's the thing it's an

well that's the thing it's an interesting thing to navigate energy

interesting thing to navigate energy

interesting thing to navigate energy when you're working especially because

when you're working especially because

when you're working especially because of the social construct of like making

of the social construct of like making

of the social construct of like making any a television show or a movie and in

any a television show or a movie and in

any a television show or a movie and in terms of like you're all together in in

terms of like you're all together in in

terms of like you're all together in in a social experience but there's so much

a social experience but there's so much

a social experience but there's so much of it as far as like you know

of it as far as like you know

of it as far as like you know concentration right frankly right is

concentration right frankly right is

concentration right frankly right is that like what'd you do this week people

that like what'd you do this week people

that like what'd you do this week people coming up and trying to joke

I'm trying to remember my lines right

I'm trying to remember my lines right now so much of it you can snap in and

now so much of it you can snap in and

now so much of it you can snap in and snap out and snap in or before the

snap out and snap in or before the

snap out and snap in or before the question before the trailer

question before the trailer

question before the trailer you think there's like some conscious

you think there's like some conscious

you think there's like some conscious preparation that you're not even aware

preparation that you're not even aware

preparation that you're not even aware of you know I mean like I mean I hope so

of you know I mean like I mean I hope so

of you know I mean like I mean I hope so to me I always hope to kind of you know

to me I always hope to kind of you know

to me I always hope to kind of you know take yeah take me now do the work do you

take yeah take me now do the work do you

take yeah take me now do the work do you date me man what do you want me to do

date me man what do you want me to do

date me man what do you want me to do you know

you know

you know well first of all I want you to prepare

well first of all I want you to prepare

well first of all I want you to prepare man make me good but you know that but

man make me good but you know that but

man make me good but you know that but finally at the end it's like you were

finally at the end it's like you were

finally at the end it's like you were talking about praying you know I'll pray

talking about praying you know I'll pray

talking about praying you know I'll pray before I feel a big scene I'll say

before I feel a big scene I'll say

before I feel a big scene I'll say you know I know I you know not to who

you know I know I you know not to who

you know I know I you know not to who I've conceive it to be but just let me

I've conceive it to be but just let me

I've conceive it to be but just let me do your work man what do you want me to

do your work man what do you want me to

do your work man what do you want me to you know yeah I mean yeah and I think

you know yeah I mean yeah and I think

you know yeah I mean yeah and I think that same guy that whoever that thing is

that same guy that whoever that thing is

that same guy that whoever that thing is out there is

out there is

out there is kind of prepping me all the way along

kind of prepping me all the way along

kind of prepping me all the way along you know you think about it and

you know you think about it and

you know you think about it and sometimes you can bring it like it

sometimes you can bring it like it

sometimes you can bring it like it sounds like you were doing you bring it

sounds like you were doing you bring it

sounds like you were doing you bring it into your conscious self and you can put

into your conscious self and you can put

into your conscious self and you can put that's where we imagine [ __ ] man we're

that's where we imagine [ __ ] man we're

that's where we imagine [ __ ] man we're powerful yeah

you can use anything I've used [ __ ] that

you can use anything I've used [ __ ] that I would never tell anybody in mind

I would never tell anybody in mind

I would never tell anybody in mind what's going on in my mind

we gotta get hit we we need to get you

we gotta get hit we we need to get you like just a really light fluffy rom-con

like just a really light fluffy rom-con

like just a really light fluffy rom-con um

there's gotta be this

there's gotta be this is

is for any of that or are you not like uh

for any of that or are you not like uh

for any of that or are you not like uh yeah pigeonholed yeah I'm just I'm

yeah pigeonholed yeah I'm just I'm

yeah pigeonholed yeah I'm just I'm interested in exploring the light yes so

interested in exploring the light yes so

interested in exploring the light yes so we'll we'll get you some like a little

we'll we'll get you some like a little

we'll we'll get you some like a little break I like that

break I like that

break I like that um damson and and Karen you obviously

um damson and and Karen you obviously

um damson and and Karen you obviously have just come to the end of these you

have just come to the end of these you

have just come to the end of these you know wildly powerful successful sort of

know wildly powerful successful sort of

know wildly powerful successful sort of career defining roles for you guys and

career defining roles for you guys and

career defining roles for you guys and I'm curious sort of what how have you

I'm curious sort of what how have you

I'm curious sort of what how have you sort of coped with

sort of coped with

sort of coped with or maybe or coping with you know

or maybe or coping with you know

or maybe or coping with you know finishing that chapter and then also

finishing that chapter and then also

finishing that chapter and then also thinking about what's next because I

thinking about what's next because I

thinking about what's next because I imagine moving on is not is loaded and

imagine moving on is not is loaded and

imagine moving on is not is loaded and and challenging and also exciting what

and challenging and also exciting what

and challenging and also exciting what stage yeah okay well I mean my I'm you

stage yeah okay well I mean my I'm you

stage yeah okay well I mean my I'm you know it's TV so it's people kind of jump

know it's TV so it's people kind of jump

know it's TV so it's people kind of jump between different Realms today you know

between different Realms today you know

between different Realms today you know you would film you do a plate or

you would film you do a plate or

you would film you do a plate or whatever so I'm I'm the next thing I'm

whatever so I'm I'm the next thing I'm

whatever so I'm I'm the next thing I'm going to do is the films playing a

going to do is the films playing a

going to do is the films playing a Formula One driver but it's that it's

Formula One driver but it's that it's

Formula One driver but it's that it's like I think it's this if you if you see

like I think it's this if you if you see

like I think it's this if you if you see characters that force you to transform

characters that force you to transform

characters that force you to transform then you're kind of going to be fine

then you're kind of going to be fine

then you're kind of going to be fine because you could like you say you can

because you could like you say you can

because you could like you say you can go towards the light and so that's just

go towards the light and so that's just

go towards the light and so that's just it for me I played a drug deal I'm

it for me I played a drug deal I'm

it for me I played a drug deal I'm definitely not going to play a drug

definitely not going to play a drug

definitely not going to play a drug dealer again for a long time you know

dealer again for a long time you know

dealer again for a long time you know it's like when you left The Sopranos you

it's like when you left The Sopranos you

it's like when you left The Sopranos you were like man I'm probably not going to

were like man I'm probably not going to

were like man I'm probably not going to touch this again you know what about you

touch this again you know what about you

touch this again you know what about you Karen what's what stage of grief are we

Karen what's what stage of grief are we

Karen what's what stage of grief are we in it I feel like it hasn't even been

in it I feel like it hasn't even been

in it I feel like it hasn't even been two months since we finished shooting in

two months since we finished shooting in

two months since we finished shooting in the show still airing so I don't really

the show still airing so I don't really

the show still airing so I don't really know what the what the feeling is but

know what the what the feeling is but

know what the what the feeling is but um well I'm sure it's a lot of feelings

um well I'm sure it's a lot of feelings

um well I'm sure it's a lot of feelings well it's like yeah it was an amazing

well it's like yeah it was an amazing

well it's like yeah it was an amazing show to work on really incredible I'm a

show to work on really incredible I'm a

show to work on really incredible I'm a little bit scared of what the next job

little bit scared of what the next job

little bit scared of what the next job may be because of the freedom we were

may be because of the freedom we were

may be because of the freedom we were given and the way that we worked and I'm

given and the way that we worked and I'm

given and the way that we worked and I'm I felt very spoiled so I don't really

I felt very spoiled so I don't really

I felt very spoiled so I don't really know what that looks like that's scary

know what that looks like that's scary

know what that looks like that's scary it's scary but it's maybe that's a good

it's scary but it's maybe that's a good

it's scary but it's maybe that's a good kind of scary but I would have liked

kind of scary but I would have liked

kind of scary but I would have liked more but yeah I also I feel really good

more but yeah I also I feel really good

more but yeah I also I feel really good with what we've done I feel proud of the

with what we've done I feel proud of the

with what we've done I feel proud of the work and you know you work on a film and

work and you know you work on a film and

work and you know you work on a film and then it's just behind you and then

then it's just behind you and then

then it's just behind you and then months later you've got to talk about it

months later you've got to talk about it

months later you've got to talk about it and you're like oh yeah I missed that

and you're like oh yeah I missed that

and you're like oh yeah I missed that that was great that's where I think I am

that was great that's where I think I am

that was great that's where I think I am now is we did this for a few years and

now is we did this for a few years and

now is we did this for a few years and it's over now I can sort of talk about

it's over now I can sort of talk about

it's over now I can sort of talk about it and enjoy it I'm not in it uh-huh I

it and enjoy it I'm not in it uh-huh I

it and enjoy it I'm not in it uh-huh I have a question for you because the

have a question for you because the

have a question for you because the shows had such success from one straight

shows had such success from one straight

shows had such success from one straight to four have you ever got to a place

to four have you ever got to a place

to four have you ever got to a place where it's like man we killed it last

where it's like man we killed it last

where it's like man we killed it last season like we got all these Emmys like

season like we got all these Emmys like

season like we got all these Emmys like we absolutely destroyed it how do we top

we absolutely destroyed it how do we top

we absolutely destroyed it how do we top this like do you lose energy that's none

this like do you lose energy that's none

this like do you lose energy that's none of my business so that's theirs that's

of my business so that's theirs that's

of my business so that's theirs that's their business I show up and do the work

their business I show up and do the work

their business I show up and do the work isn't it great that it's none of our

isn't it great that it's none of our

isn't it great that it's none of our business I I love that's the best bit

business I I love that's the best bit

business I I love that's the best bit yeah it's like not my fault

yeah it's like not my fault

yeah it's like not my fault show up do the work go home yeah

show up do the work go home yeah

show up do the work go home yeah and I'm curious Michael for you I mean

and I'm curious Michael for you I mean

and I'm curious Michael for you I mean you've been in in their shoes I'm do you

you've been in in their shoes I'm do you

you've been in in their shoes I'm do you a have any advice based on what you did

a have any advice based on what you did

a have any advice based on what you did or perhaps didn't do I think it's it's

or perhaps didn't do I think it's it's

or perhaps didn't do I think it's it's good not to think of things in terms of

good not to think of things in terms of

good not to think of things in terms of career moves you know like just look at

career moves you know like just look at

career moves you know like just look at what's the next interesting part

what's the next interesting part

what's the next interesting part you know

you know

you know um I think people make mistakes when

um I think people make mistakes when

um I think people make mistakes when it's especially in Television right so

it's especially in Television right so

it's especially in Television right so you get on a show that's a hit and say

you get on a show that's a hit and say

you get on a show that's a hit and say oh now the next thing I have to be the

oh now the next thing I have to be the

oh now the next thing I have to be the star or the next thing is God's got to

star or the next thing is God's got to

star or the next thing is God's got to be hit you know if you start thinking

be hit you know if you start thinking

be hit you know if you start thinking that way I think you really can get in

that way I think you really can get in

that way I think you really can get in trouble starting to help people are

trouble starting to help people are

trouble starting to help people are going to perceive you as opposed to like

going to perceive you as opposed to like

going to perceive you as opposed to like picking the work yeah it's kind of yeah

picking the work yeah it's kind of yeah

picking the work yeah it's kind of yeah I feel like it's always been after

I feel like it's always been after

I feel like it's always been after whatever job it is it's always like back

whatever job it is it's always like back

whatever job it is it's always like back to the drawing board oh like my whole

to the drawing board oh like my whole

to the drawing board oh like my whole life has been done but it's interesting

life has been done but it's interesting

life has been done but it's interesting because I've heard you talk about sort

because I've heard you talk about sort

because I've heard you talk about sort of your post-oprano's trajectory and I

of your post-oprano's trajectory and I

of your post-oprano's trajectory and I think you know every profile that's

think you know every profile that's

think you know every profile that's written the the journalist seems to be

written the the journalist seems to be

written the the journalist seems to be surprised as as I am and you've said I'm

surprised as as I am and you've said I'm

surprised as as I am and you've said I'm going to quote you

going to quote you

going to quote you um where you said it's not like I have

um where you said it's not like I have

um where you said it's not like I have Hollywood ringing my phone all the

Hollywood ringing my phone all the

Hollywood ringing my phone all the freaking time I've worked consistently

freaking time I've worked consistently

freaking time I've worked consistently luckily but it's not like all the top

luckily but it's not like all the top

luckily but it's not like all the top directors are calling me and want me in

directors are calling me and want me in

directors are calling me and want me in their stuff it still always feels like a

their stuff it still always feels like a

their stuff it still always feels like a battle which

battle which

battle which surprises me you were on one of the

surprises me you were on one of the

surprises me you were on one of the greatest shows of of all times what was

greatest shows of of all times what was

greatest shows of of all times what was the feedback

the feedback

the feedback um and and did it surprise you is it

um and and did it surprise you is it

um and and did it surprise you is it much as it seems to surprise people like

much as it seems to surprise people like

much as it seems to surprise people like me

me um not necessarily you know Charles

um not necessarily you know Charles

um not necessarily you know Charles Grodin wrote a book right and the title

Grodin wrote a book right and the title

Grodin wrote a book right and the title of it was it would be so nice if you

of it was it would be so nice if you

of it was it would be so nice if you weren't here because that was the

weren't here because that was the

weren't here because that was the feeling the feeling he had when he would

feeling the feeling he had when he would

feeling the feeling he had when he would go into casting offices for auditions

go into casting offices for auditions

go into casting offices for auditions he always felt that's what they were

he always felt that's what they were

he always felt that's what they were thinking

thinking

thinking you know you go through all this

you know you go through all this

you know you go through all this rejection you're so insecure and I think

rejection you're so insecure and I think

rejection you're so insecure and I think I I've internalized that like my whole

I I've internalized that like my whole

I I've internalized that like my whole life and it always feels like a miracle

life and it always feels like a miracle

life and it always feels like a miracle when I get a job it still feels like

when I get a job it still feels like

when I get a job it still feels like that yeah it's very strange I think kids

that yeah it's very strange I think kids

that yeah it's very strange I think kids need to know that they want you to win

need to know that they want you to win

need to know that they want you to win like I learned that really late like oh

like I learned that really late like oh

like I learned that really late like oh when you walk in like they actually want

when you walk in like they actually want

when you walk in like they actually want you to kill it yeah that's true and they

you to kill it yeah that's true and they

you to kill it yeah that's true and they don't want you to fail you know they're

don't want you to fail you know they're

don't want you to fail you know they're trying to find a guy to cook stick him

trying to find a guy to cook stick him

trying to find a guy to cook stick him yeah

yeah

yeah so that's that's interesting too I like

so that's that's interesting too I like

so that's that's interesting too I like back to the drawing board I don't know

back to the drawing board I don't know

back to the drawing board I don't know about you I don't if I knew what my next

about you I don't if I knew what my next

about you I don't if I knew what my next two or three jobs were I that gives me

two or three jobs were I that gives me

two or three jobs were I that gives me panic attacks I don't like that I like

panic attacks I don't like that I like

panic attacks I don't like that I like the job being done and then there's

the job being done and then there's

the job being done and then there's nothing and then there's something

nothing and then there's something

nothing and then there's something that's so interesting yeah really yeah I

that's so interesting yeah really yeah I

that's so interesting yeah really yeah I have a mortgage

there's another thing you talked about

there's another thing you talked about not not too long ago I guess it was a

not not too long ago I guess it was a

not not too long ago I guess it was a few years ago

few years ago

few years ago where uh you were talking about how you

where uh you were talking about how you

where uh you were talking about how you and Idris Elba would text about uh

and Idris Elba would text about uh

and Idris Elba would text about uh perhaps the fate of your character and I

perhaps the fate of your character and I

perhaps the fate of your character and I think he gave you some advice uh based

think he gave you some advice uh based

think he gave you some advice uh based on personal experience was which was

on personal experience was which was

on personal experience was which was make sure they kill you otherwise you're

make sure they kill you otherwise you're

make sure they kill you otherwise you're going to walk around in your whole life

going to walk around in your whole life

going to walk around in your whole life people are going to be like you should

people are going to be like you should

people are going to be like you should bring stuff all back yeah well spoiler

bring stuff all back yeah well spoiler

bring stuff all back yeah well spoiler alert that's not what happened yeah so a

alert that's not what happened yeah so a

alert that's not what happened yeah so a are you prepared for for that question

are you prepared for for that question

are you prepared for for that question being asked yeah already what you got

being asked yeah already what you got

being asked yeah already what you got already and what were those

already and what were those

already and what were those conversations around that well you know

conversations around that well you know

conversations around that well you know the drug dealer advisory goes to jail

the drug dealer advisory goes to jail

the drug dealer advisory goes to jail right yep so it was like oh what if like

right yep so it was like oh what if like

right yep so it was like oh what if like he loses everything and he's just

he loses everything and he's just

he loses everything and he's just wondering into the abyss which is what

wondering into the abyss which is what

wondering into the abyss which is what happens to Franklin saying you know and

happens to Franklin saying you know and

happens to Franklin saying you know and it's

it's

it's it's synonymous to so many people of

it's synonymous to so many people of

it's synonymous to so many people of that world you know it just played

that world you know it just played

that world you know it just played Stringer and then he was able to just go

Stringer and then he was able to just go

Stringer and then he was able to just go off and do whatever he wanted because

off and do whatever he wanted because

off and do whatever he wanted because it's like you can't bring him back from

it's like you can't bring him back from

it's like you can't bring him back from the dead so I think it's when you close

the dead so I think it's when you close

the dead so I think it's when you close the story The Right Way

the story The Right Way

the story The Right Way um it works but there's just so many

um it works but there's just so many

um it works but there's just so many shows today where it's like hey we're

shows today where it's like hey we're

shows today where it's like hey we're gonna get a spin-off and yeah you know

gonna get a spin-off and yeah you know

gonna get a spin-off and yeah you know so and then and the money

so and then and the money

so and then and the money like TV probably pays more than films

like TV probably pays more than films

like TV probably pays more than films these days you know so is I think you

these days you know so is I think you

these days you know so is I think you just have to let it go I've accepted

just have to let it go I've accepted

just have to let it go I've accepted that that show and and that character

that that show and and that character

that that show and and that character belongs to the people now and it doesn't

belongs to the people now and it doesn't

belongs to the people now and it doesn't belong to me you know I I finish a part

belong to me you know I I finish a part

belong to me you know I I finish a part I take an exotic trip to Trinidad and

I take an exotic trip to Trinidad and

I take an exotic trip to Trinidad and Tobago and I leave the character there

Tobago and I leave the character there

Tobago and I leave the character there and I come back and I start again

and I come back and I start again

and I come back and I start again see him but for in between seasons did

see him but for in between seasons did

see him but for in between seasons did you sort of feel that way as well or

you sort of feel that way as well or

you sort of feel that way as well or were you carrying it the whole oh man I

were you carrying it the whole oh man I

were you carrying it the whole oh man I definitely carrying it it was man you

definitely carrying it it was man you

definitely carrying it it was man you talk about

talk about

talk about stuff we put in that we don't need to

stuff we put in that we don't need to

stuff we put in that we don't need to put yeah I remember being in London

put yeah I remember being in London

put yeah I remember being in London talking in character and my mom's like

talking in character and my mom's like

talking in character and my mom's like what are you doing

what are you doing

what are you doing home yeah you know so it's but some

home yeah you know so it's but some

home yeah you know so it's but some people do need to you know and in some

people do need to you know and in some

people do need to you know and in some instances I needed to and I didn't and

instances I needed to and I didn't and

instances I needed to and I didn't and yeah

yeah

yeah whatever works

whatever works

whatever works I admire the people who I remember

I admire the people who I remember

I admire the people who I remember um sir Ian McKellen he was like I'm not

um sir Ian McKellen he was like I'm not

um sir Ian McKellen he was like I'm not a wizard I just I just walk into it

a wizard I just I just walk into it

a wizard I just I just walk into it right and I wish I could do that like I

right and I wish I could do that like I

right and I wish I could do that like I wish

wish

wish a little bit it was very good

a little bit it was very good

a little bit it was very good maybe it is in me those are the actors I

maybe it is in me those are the actors I

maybe it is in me those are the actors I kind of admire most the ones that can

kind of admire most the ones that can

kind of admire most the ones that can just like do it and then turn it off and

just like do it and then turn it off and

just like do it and then turn it off and just be themselves right after and go

just be themselves right after and go

just be themselves right after and go home and then

home and then

home and then he fledging was like that everyone

he fledging was like that everyone

he fledging was like that everyone thought he was like playing The Joker

thought he was like playing The Joker

thought he was like playing The Joker and he was just like in that mode all

and he was just like in that mode all

and he was just like in that mode all the time but I heard he was like

the time but I heard he was like

the time but I heard he was like chilling having coffee he was like hey

chilling having coffee he was like hey

chilling having coffee he was like hey how was your weekend it's really

how was your weekend it's really

how was your weekend it's really interesting I'm curious what doors these

interesting I'm curious what doors these

interesting I'm curious what doors these current projects have opened for you I'm

current projects have opened for you I'm

current projects have opened for you I'm looking at you because it feels like

looking at you because it feels like

looking at you because it feels like this is

this is

this is because it feels like this is been such

because it feels like this is been such

because it feels like this is been such a sort of you've been at this for a very

a sort of you've been at this for a very

a sort of you've been at this for a very long time and yet there's this sense of

long time and yet there's this sense of

long time and yet there's this sense of you are all of a sudden there's so many

you are all of a sudden there's so many

you are all of a sudden there's so many opportunities there's so much excitement

opportunities there's so much excitement

opportunities there's so much excitement around around your career I don't know

around around your career I don't know

around around your career I don't know if that comes with a sort of pressure to

if that comes with a sort of pressure to

if that comes with a sort of pressure to to strike while the iron is hot and how

to strike while the iron is hot and how

to strike while the iron is hot and how you sort of think about

you sort of think about

you sort of think about that navigation

my glasses are starting to fog right

my glasses are starting to fog right it's like my body temperature just went

it's like my body temperature just went

it's like my body temperature just went up I've had the interesting experience

up I've had the interesting experience

up I've had the interesting experience of and the fortune really to be a part

of and the fortune really to be a part

of and the fortune really to be a part of

of um jobs that are

um jobs that are

um jobs that are have these kind of franchise size kind

have these kind of franchise size kind

have these kind of franchise size kind of successes you know and there's

of successes you know and there's

of successes you know and there's something that is

something that is

something that is um you're very taken care of in Terms of

um you're very taken care of in Terms of

um you're very taken care of in Terms of its level of exposure and if you can be

its level of exposure and if you can be

its level of exposure and if you can be a part of elevating that or or nurturing

a part of elevating that or or nurturing

a part of elevating that or or nurturing that in in any way with your with your

that in in any way with your with your

that in in any way with your with your acting um that that's been very lucky

acting um that that's been very lucky

acting um that that's been very lucky for me but they've all felt like these

for me but they've all felt like these

for me but they've all felt like these kinds of big machines you know and um

kinds of big machines you know and um

kinds of big machines you know and um and so it would be really interesting to

and so it would be really interesting to

and so it would be really interesting to see what happens if I can step into uh

see what happens if I can step into uh

see what happens if I can step into uh something that uh is more of a risk as

something that uh is more of a risk as

something that uh is more of a risk as far as uh how big the project is where

far as uh how big the project is where

far as uh how big the project is where it would be more uh story not to say

it would be more uh story not to say

it would be more uh story not to say that it's not because of the stories

that it's not because of the stories

that it's not because of the stories that these things that are in grander

that these things that are in grander

that these things that are in grander scale work

scale work

scale work um do you see that fogging they're

um do you see that fogging they're

um do you see that fogging they're [ __ ] but don't you think wouldn't you

[ __ ] but don't you think wouldn't you

[ __ ] but don't you think wouldn't you say that there's a lot of risk in doing

say that there's a lot of risk in doing

say that there's a lot of risk in doing something that's maybe so beloved and

something that's maybe so beloved and

something that's maybe so beloved and people are really expecting like there's

people are really expecting like there's

people are really expecting like there's a huge fan base yeah it's a video game

a huge fan base yeah it's a video game

a huge fan base yeah it's a video game totally scary I was I was I was really

totally scary I was I was I was really

totally scary I was I was I was really really scared I think before and it's

really scared I think before and it's

really scared I think before and it's it's the funny thing of

it's the funny thing of

it's the funny thing of compartmentalizing your feelings about

compartmentalizing your feelings about

compartmentalizing your feelings about stuff and kind of dealing with um the

stuff and kind of dealing with um the

stuff and kind of dealing with um the amount of pressure that you put on

amount of pressure that you put on

amount of pressure that you put on yourself the amount of pressure that

yourself the amount of pressure that

yourself the amount of pressure that that is actually out there I have this

that is actually out there I have this

that is actually out there I have this sort of psychological game where I'm

sort of psychological game where I'm

sort of psychological game where I'm like it's no big deal right right nobody

like it's no big deal right right nobody

like it's no big deal right right nobody cares nobody gives a [ __ ] you know what

cares nobody gives a [ __ ] you know what

cares nobody gives a [ __ ] you know what I mean I do that too and this time

I mean I do that too and this time

I mean I do that too and this time around

I was scared I was so scared yeah

I was scared I was so scared yeah because it's the kids man the kids are

because it's the kids man the kids are

because it's the kids man the kids are watching that because there was a kind

watching that because there was a kind

watching that because there was a kind of there was more of an exposed

of there was more of an exposed

of there was more of an exposed silhouette I would say similar kind of

silhouette I would say similar kind of

silhouette I would say similar kind of like silhouette of of of of coolness

like silhouette of of of of coolness

like silhouette of of of of coolness maybe that um that that an expectation

maybe that um that that an expectation

maybe that um that that an expectation to be met as far as what people's

to be met as far as what people's

to be met as far as what people's immersive experience of the story was

immersive experience of the story was

immersive experience of the story was and to disappoint them in that regard

and to disappoint them in that regard

and to disappoint them in that regard felt like it would be I you know you

felt like it would be I you know you

felt like it would be I you know you don't want to let people down but it you

don't want to let people down but it you

don't want to let people down but it you also

also

also kind of um

kind of um

kind of um nobody's impervious to disappointing

nobody's impervious to disappointing

nobody's impervious to disappointing people you know what I mean like you you

people you know what I mean like you you

people you know what I mean like you you I want

I want

I want people to like me

people to like me

people to like me [Laughter]

no that's fine leave me alone

no that's fine leave me alone but but just in terms of the kind of

but but just in terms of the kind of

but but just in terms of the kind of they're really fogging this time they

they're really fogging this time they

they're really fogging this time they really are they are yeah they really are

really are they are yeah they really are

really are they are yeah they really are yeah she's talking with you before but

yeah she's talking with you before but

yeah she's talking with you before but you know what that's actually you know

you know what that's actually you know

you know what that's actually you know what I'm saying I do which is why you

what I'm saying I do which is why you

what I'm saying I do which is why you asked it is and but then specific

asked it is and but then specific

asked it is and but then specific question and maybe you'll find this to

question and maybe you'll find this to

question and maybe you'll find this to be annoying to answer but like who's

be annoying to answer but like who's

be annoying to answer but like who's running this interview and I'm so happy

running this interview and I'm so happy

running this interview and I'm so happy about it exactly

about it exactly

about it exactly um did you play the video game or like I

um did you play the video game or like I

um did you play the video game or like I played it after I didn't know it existed

played it after I didn't know it existed

played it after I didn't know it existed when I got the job and I found out

when I got the job and I found out

when I got the job and I found out immediately what it was because it was

immediately what it was because it was

immediately what it was because it was such a big deal my nephews were

such a big deal my nephews were

such a big deal my nephews were teenagers

teenagers

teenagers um our teenagers and uh they freaked out

um our teenagers and uh they freaked out

um our teenagers and uh they freaked out and and then I saw I I always knew that

and and then I saw I I always knew that

and and then I saw I I always knew that there was so much creative like um uh

there was so much creative like um uh

there was so much creative like um uh ground being broken within the world of

ground being broken within the world of

ground being broken within the world of video games I had known that that was

video games I had known that that was

video games I had known that that was happening but I just didn't have the

happening but I just didn't have the

happening but I just didn't have the discipline or the skill to think God to

discipline or the skill to think God to

discipline or the skill to think God to go along thank God because I wouldn't

go along thank God because I wouldn't

go along thank God because I wouldn't I'm capable of a real

I'm capable of a real

I'm capable of a real give me a reason to not leave the house

give me a reason to not leave the house

give me a reason to not leave the house for sure that game is a good reason too

for sure that game is a good reason too

for sure that game is a good reason too so you played it after you filmed it or

so you played it after you filmed it or

so you played it after you filmed it or I tried to play it I can't play it okay

I tried to play it I can't play it okay

I tried to play it I can't play it okay what game what games it's called The

what game what games it's called The

what game what games it's called The Last of Us

because I got sucked into a video which

because I got sucked into a video which one prom that Tron of course one of the

one prom that Tron of course one of the

one prom that Tron of course one of the original video game adaptations right

original video game adaptations right

original video game adaptations right man that movie came out when there were

man that movie came out when there were

man that movie came out when there were arcades in the cinemas are there still

arcades in the cinemas are there still

arcades in the cinemas are there still arcades shot at 70 millimeter black and

arcades shot at 70 millimeter black and

arcades shot at 70 millimeter black and white all hand tinted by these ladies in

white all hand tinted by these ladies in

white all hand tinted by these ladies in Korea the director Stephen lisberger who

Korea the director Stephen lisberger who

Korea the director Stephen lisberger who wrote it and everything

wrote it and everything

wrote it and everything first time that was his first movie he

first time that was his first movie he

first time that was his first movie he lined the sound stages with video games

lined the sound stages with video games

lined the sound stages with video games yeah you know first time director

yeah you know first time director

yeah you know first time director because you can imagine everybody's like

because you can imagine everybody's like

because you can imagine everybody's like you know get to work I'm prepping man

you know get to work I'm prepping man

you know get to work I'm prepping man I'm prepping from my scene yeah oh my

I'm prepping from my scene yeah oh my

I'm prepping from my scene yeah oh my God

God

God I grew up in the arcade Generation

I grew up in the arcade Generation

I grew up in the arcade Generation Um is is that a real thing yeah you know

Um is is that a real thing yeah you know

Um is is that a real thing yeah you know man well that's pinball in terms of the

man well that's pinball in terms of the

man well that's pinball in terms of the I mean so now that you've done uh White

I mean so now that you've done uh White

I mean so now that you've done uh White Lotus do different doors start opening

Lotus do different doors start opening

Lotus do different doors start opening do other do is Hollywood sort of seeing

do other do is Hollywood sort of seeing

do other do is Hollywood sort of seeing you in a different way now do you feel

you in a different way now do you feel

you in a different way now do you feel that you start getting invited to a lot

that you start getting invited to a lot

that you start getting invited to a lot of parties and events and stuff which I

of parties and events and stuff which I

of parties and events and stuff which I hadn't in a long time I did for a while

hadn't in a long time I did for a while

hadn't in a long time I did for a while and then you did so how does it feel now

and then you did so how does it feel now

and then you did so how does it feel now on this side um no what's good is uh the

on this side um no what's good is uh the

on this side um no what's good is uh the the White Lotus has a lot of young fans

the White Lotus has a lot of young fans

the White Lotus has a lot of young fans and a lot of people who maybe never

and a lot of people who maybe never

and a lot of people who maybe never watched The Sopranos or maybe that's too

watched The Sopranos or maybe that's too

watched The Sopranos or maybe that's too violent I don't know so it's a it's a

violent I don't know so it's a it's a

violent I don't know so it's a it's a different fan base which is really cool

different fan base which is really cool

different fan base which is really cool talk talk a little bit about Mike white

talk talk a little bit about Mike white

talk talk a little bit about Mike white man Mike White

man Mike White

man Mike White artist and uh wow autor he wrote all the

artist and uh wow autor he wrote all the

artist and uh wow autor he wrote all the episodes and directs them all

episodes and directs them all

episodes and directs them all and it's very collaborative you know

and it's very collaborative you know

and it's very collaborative you know like

like wants input and takes input but has his

wants input and takes input but has his

wants input and takes input but has his point of view and I love that if he

point of view and I love that if he

point of view and I love that if he disagrees yeah and very kind I never

disagrees yeah and very kind I never

disagrees yeah and very kind I never heard him

heard him

heard him raises Voice once Sunset I never saw him

raises Voice once Sunset I never saw him

raises Voice once Sunset I never saw him lose his cool at all very respectful to

lose his cool at all very respectful to

lose his cool at all very respectful to the crew

it's too good to be true but that's the

it's too good to be true but that's the tone he sets and he's just um

tone he sets and he's just um

tone he sets and he's just um and he's apparently uh really really

and he's apparently uh really really

and he's apparently uh really really really fast like yeah from what I heard

really fast like yeah from what I heard

really fast like yeah from what I heard is

is they want HBO wanted something they

they want HBO wanted something they

they want HBO wanted something they could shoot during the pandemic right

could shoot during the pandemic right

could shoot during the pandemic right because nothing was shooting oh yeah so

because nothing was shooting oh yeah so

because nothing was shooting oh yeah so they were saying does anyone have

they were saying does anyone have

they were saying does anyone have something that's like a self-contained

something that's like a self-contained

something that's like a self-contained thing he's like well I got this

thing he's like well I got this

thing he's like well I got this Hotel thing I'm thinking of and he wrote

Hotel thing I'm thinking of and he wrote

Hotel thing I'm thinking of and he wrote it in like he's never like two months or

it in like he's never like two months or

it in like he's never like two months or something and for the second season too

something and for the second season too

something and for the second season too like he's really really second season

like he's really really second season

like he's really really second season you were supposed to do something you

you were supposed to do something you

you were supposed to do something you were supposed to do this one weren't you

were supposed to do this one weren't you

were supposed to do this one weren't you maybe yeah the the scheduling didn't

maybe yeah the the scheduling didn't

maybe yeah the the scheduling didn't work out I was devastated can you go to

work out I was devastated can you go to

work out I was devastated can you go to Thailand let's go in Sicily he was going

Thailand let's go in Sicily he was going

Thailand let's go in Sicily he was going to be in season

to be in season

to be in season which character

which character

which character um Ethan Ethan yeah Ethan yeah it's will

um Ethan Ethan yeah Ethan yeah it's will

um Ethan Ethan yeah Ethan yeah it's will sharp on a plane and was Aubrey pauses

sharp on a plane and was Aubrey pauses

sharp on a plane and was Aubrey pauses that's right husband but that was did

that's right husband but that was did

that's right husband but that was did did Dahmer like kind of was it on the

did Dahmer like kind of was it on the

did Dahmer like kind of was it on the heels of that yeah yeah you needed some

heels of that yeah yeah you needed some

heels of that yeah yeah you needed some yeah

so when casting directors call all of

so when casting directors call all of you guys what do you tend to hear and

you guys what do you tend to hear and

you guys what do you tend to hear and what's the thing where you're like not

what's the thing where you're like not

what's the thing where you're like not doing that again like I'm I'm I'm good

doing that again like I'm I'm I'm good

doing that again like I'm I'm I'm good you mean like mobster

you mean like mobster

you mean like mobster uh

uh caretaker of cargo

caretaker of cargo

caretaker of cargo um annoying annoying keep going keep

um annoying annoying keep going keep

um annoying annoying keep going keep going

going

going I'm reluctant to play myself

I'm reluctant to play myself

I'm reluctant to play myself I think that's something new characters

I think that's something new characters

I think that's something new characters that are closer to yeah like a British

that are closer to yeah like a British

that are closer to yeah like a British guy from Southeast London right here oh

guy from Southeast London right here oh

guy from Southeast London right here oh interesting I'm not interested at all I

interesting I'm not interested at all I

interesting I'm not interested at all I think

think

think there's a million actors out there who

there's a million actors out there who

there's a million actors out there who could just go and do that you know and

could just go and do that you know and

could just go and do that you know and this opportunity for someone else to

this opportunity for someone else to

this opportunity for someone else to step into it I want to transform like uh

step into it I want to transform like uh

step into it I want to transform like uh when you look at when I look at myself

when you look at when I look at myself

when you look at when I look at myself on a screen I don't want to see myself

on a screen I don't want to see myself

on a screen I don't want to see myself I'm like one of those people like I hate

I'm like one of those people like I hate

I'm like one of those people like I hate the sound of my voice despite the fact

the sound of my voice despite the fact

the sound of my voice despite the fact that I'm talking about right now

that I'm talking about right now

that I'm talking about right now well I think everyone needs this out of

well I think everyone needs this out of

well I think everyone needs this out of their voice people when you were

their voice people when you were

their voice people when you were shooting

shooting

shooting your show I think did you say for the

your show I think did you say for the

your show I think did you say for the first whole season nobody even knew you

first whole season nobody even knew you

first whole season nobody even knew you had an accent yeah like like I I was

had an accent yeah like like I I was

had an accent yeah like like I I was really fortunate is why I'm asking you

really fortunate is why I'm asking you

really fortunate is why I'm asking you about like the show getting all this

about like the show getting all this

about like the show getting all this press and stuff like and then you having

press and stuff like and then you having

press and stuff like and then you having to like go back because for me if I was

to like go back because for me if I was

to like go back because for me if I was on all those doing all that press and

on all those doing all that press and

on all those doing all that press and stuff like that and everyone's like oh

stuff like that and everyone's like oh

stuff like that and everyone's like oh it's British I almost feel like it'll

it's British I almost feel like it'll

it's British I almost feel like it'll like take them out of when they watch me

like take them out of when they watch me

like take them out of when they watch me I had a weird way of thinking back then

I had a weird way of thinking back then

I had a weird way of thinking back then but um but no it was for me like I

but um but no it was for me like I

but um but no it was for me like I honestly enjoyed it I enjoyed the whole

honestly enjoyed it I enjoyed the whole

honestly enjoyed it I enjoyed the whole process of where the show got to six

process of where the show got to six

process of where the show got to six seasons took eight years to do it

seasons took eight years to do it

seasons took eight years to do it because of covid and the first pilot

because of covid and the first pilot

because of covid and the first pilot that we recast

that we recast

that we recast so I think it it worked out perfectly in

so I think it it worked out perfectly in

so I think it it worked out perfectly in the end and Petra you're you have two

the end and Petra you're you have two

the end and Petra you're you have two shows going on at once presumably you

shows going on at once presumably you

shows going on at once presumably you don't necessarily always have to be

don't necessarily always have to be

don't necessarily always have to be there for the Mandalorian correct ah

there for the Mandalorian correct ah

there for the Mandalorian correct ah that can just be a voice over yeah

um for a lot of it yeah really yeah Oh I

um for a lot of it yeah really yeah Oh I thought that was you there were lies

thought that was you there were lies

thought that was you there were lies it's all a lie I kept thinking that

it's all a lie I kept thinking that

it's all a lie I kept thinking that guy's really good we expect

guy's really good we expect

guy's really good we expect oh why now you know it's better let's

oh why now you know it's better let's

oh why now you know it's better let's get him here

get him here

get him here um there was a there was a there was a

um there was a there was a there was a

um there was a there was a there was a there was an extended amount of

there was an extended amount of

there was an extended amount of experimentation like being in the suit

experimentation like being in the suit

experimentation like being in the suit for for for for a lot of it and frankly

for for for for a lot of it and frankly

for for for for a lot of it and frankly you know my my body wasn't up for the

you know my my body wasn't up for the

you know my my body wasn't up for the task as far as like you know the four

task as far as like you know the four

task as far as like you know the four months of it but um I was in it I was in

months of it but um I was in it I was in

months of it but um I was in it I was in a significant amount

a significant amount

a significant amount elastic amount

elastic amount

elastic amount um but now we've figured it out it's

um but now we've figured it out it's

um but now we've figured it out it's super cool and and amazingly it gave me

super cool and and amazingly it gave me

super cool and and amazingly it gave me the opportunity to be able to go and and

the opportunity to be able to go and and

the opportunity to be able to go and and do something else that's good do you

do something else that's good do you

do something else that's good do you ever feel that like like I have a

ever feel that like like I have a

ever feel that like like I have a question sorry I'm serious do you ever

question sorry I'm serious do you ever

question sorry I'm serious do you ever like watch it go like oh I wouldn't have

like watch it go like oh I wouldn't have

like watch it go like oh I wouldn't have done that

done that

done that he like leaned on the thing that's not

he like leaned on the thing that's not

he like leaned on the thing that's not this do you ever had like a sense of

this do you ever had like a sense of

this do you ever had like a sense of ownership of like

ownership of like

ownership of like I should have been in the suit are you

I should have been in the suit are you

I should have been in the suit are you like no this is good

like no this is good

like no this is good um I think it's great great

I don't know I think that there are

I don't know I think that there are things that that that you have to let go

things that that that you have to let go

things that that that you have to let go of in terms of um what can be uh

of in terms of um what can be uh

of in terms of um what can be uh an OCD level of uh attention to detail

an OCD level of uh attention to detail

an OCD level of uh attention to detail um because

um because

um because you know because we're making a call

you know because we're making a call

you know because we're making a call we're part of a collage man

we're part of a collage man

we're part of a collage man you know

you know

you know even so much but even so much as wanting

even so much but even so much as wanting

even so much but even so much as wanting your component of that collage to fit

your component of that collage to fit

your component of that collage to fit perfectly into the collage

give it give it all up you can know too

give it give it all up you can know too much sometimes too like for the last two

much sometimes too like for the last two

much sometimes too like for the last two seasons of my shirt it made me a

seasons of my shirt it made me a

seasons of my shirt it made me a producer and like everything was changed

producer and like everything was changed

producer and like everything was changed like I wasn't I didn't feel like to get

like I wasn't I didn't feel like to get

like I wasn't I didn't feel like to get that Insight right yeah did you like

that Insight right yeah did you like

that Insight right yeah did you like that or was that too much it was a lot I

that or was that too much it was a lot I

that or was that too much it was a lot I mean prior to that I'd get an episode

mean prior to that I'd get an episode

mean prior to that I'd get an episode script probably a week before I did it

script probably a week before I did it

script probably a week before I did it so there was that mystery but now it's

so there was that mystery but now it's

so there was that mystery but now it's like I know exactly where I'm going I

like I know exactly where I'm going I

like I know exactly where I'm going I know exactly where I'm going to end up

know exactly where I'm going to end up

know exactly where I'm going to end up and it was it was it was interesting

and it was it was it was interesting

and it was it was it was interesting yeah doing that and a lot more actors

yeah doing that and a lot more actors

yeah doing that and a lot more actors are doing that yeah they're heavily

are doing that yeah they're heavily

are doing that yeah they're heavily involved in the process so that's an

involved in the process so that's an

involved in the process so that's an awful minute so self producing hats yeah

awful minute so self producing hats yeah

awful minute so self producing hats yeah all that sort of stuff scares me but

all that sort of stuff scares me but

all that sort of stuff scares me but like on our show like we wouldn't get a

like on our show like we wouldn't get a

like on our show like we wouldn't get a script till like two or three days

script till like two or three days

script till like two or three days before shooting

before shooting

before shooting yeah but you I've heard you say you can

yeah but you I've heard you say you can

yeah but you I've heard you say you can memorize things I memorize fast it's

memorize things I memorize fast it's

memorize things I memorize fast it's like yeah so that's sort of like yeah

like yeah so that's sort of like yeah

like yeah so that's sort of like yeah and people hated you because of it some

and people hated you because of it some

and people hated you because of it some people yeah because you get like a new

people yeah because you get like a new

people yeah because you get like a new speech like that morning

speech like that morning

speech like that morning cards you never would have expected

cards you never would have expected

cards you never would have expected with cards with cards

with cards with cards

with cards with cards behind the guy's head

behind the guy's head

behind the guy's head so one of my when I didn't jump when I

so one of my when I didn't jump when I

so one of my when I didn't jump when I was 18 we did a scene with Gore Vidal

was 18 we did a scene with Gore Vidal

was 18 we did a scene with Gore Vidal who wasn't an actor and uh is me and

who wasn't an actor and uh is me and

who wasn't an actor and uh is me and Susan Sarandon with him and he just

Susan Sarandon with him and he just

Susan Sarandon with him and he just didn't he's not an actor you didn't know

didn't he's not an actor you didn't know

didn't he's not an actor you didn't know but he had a lot of dialogue so she just

but he had a lot of dialogue so she just

but he had a lot of dialogue so she just like let's get cue cards it was her idea

like let's get cue cards it was her idea

like let's get cue cards it was her idea and she sat there and just did this with

and she sat there and just did this with

and she sat there and just did this with him and it was like great it was like

him and it was like great it was like

him and it was like great it was like that's cool I was so excited to work

that's cool I was so excited to work

that's cool I was so excited to work with Tommy Lee Jones one of my favorite

with Tommy Lee Jones one of my favorite

with Tommy Lee Jones one of my favorite guys the come the big the NC you know

guys the come the big the NC you know

guys the come the big the NC you know we all agree the writer who you know and

we all agree the writer who you know and

we all agree the writer who you know and the director says it's not working I say

the director says it's not working I say

the director says it's not working I say okay you gotta write the damn thing on

okay you gotta write the damn thing on

okay you gotta write the damn thing on the lies and you know and I took a

the lies and you know and I took a

the lies and you know and I took a picture with my one like a camera of

picture with my one like a camera of

picture with my one like a camera of them writing it on the thing because

them writing it on the thing because

them writing it on the thing because that's one of my favorite pictures but

that's one of my favorite pictures but

that's one of my favorite pictures but then that it's tough yeah there's all

then that it's tough yeah there's all

then that it's tough yeah there's all these weird my brother Bo was doing a

these weird my brother Bo was doing a

these weird my brother Bo was doing a thing with Brando oh Brandon Austin said

thing with Brando oh Brandon Austin said

thing with Brando oh Brandon Austin said can I write my line I want eye contact

can I write my line I want eye contact

can I write my line I want eye contact see I don't think yeah

see I don't think yeah

see I don't think yeah on his forehead index cards I mean does

on his forehead index cards I mean does

on his forehead index cards I mean does the line change he Brandon had fired

the line change he Brandon had fired

the line change he Brandon had fired from the James Mason uh

told me once he goes I think I would

told me once he goes I think I would actually he goes I think I might

actually he goes I think I might

actually he goes I think I might actually be a good actor if I could just

actually be a good actor if I could just

actually be a good actor if I could just learn the damn lines

he never knows he's at his in our show

he never knows he's at his in our show he always has his prop phone because he

he always has his prop phone because he

he always has his prop phone because he has his lines on it he just can't learn

has his lines on it he just can't learn

has his lines on it he just can't learn them he says he's always been that way

them he says he's always been that way

them he says he's always been that way that's not like I'm shocked to hear that

that's not like I'm shocked to hear that

that's not like I'm shocked to hear that you would get Pages last minute for

you would get Pages last minute for

you would get Pages last minute for something that comes across that's well

something that comes across that's well

something that comes across that's well it's typical from like that's typical on

it's typical from like that's typical on

it's typical from like that's typical on a different kind of show at least in my

a different kind of show at least in my

a different kind of show at least in my naivete the way I understood it in in

naivete the way I understood it in in

naivete the way I understood it in in did Sopranos like shock me no it came it

did Sopranos like shock me no it came it

did Sopranos like shock me no it came it came a couple of weeks before because we

came a couple of weeks before because we

came a couple of weeks before because we shot we would finish shooting before it

shot we would finish shooting before it

shot we would finish shooting before it aired all right it wasn't like it's also

aired all right it wasn't like it's also

aired all right it wasn't like it's also crazy that we're all here and uh part of

crazy that we're all here and uh part of

crazy that we're all here and uh part of different television shows because The

different television shows because The

different television shows because The Sopranos broke the wheel as far as what

Sopranos broke the wheel as far as what

Sopranos broke the wheel as far as what could be done I mean at the time did you

could be done I mean at the time did you

could be done I mean at the time did you have a sense for that you know

have a sense for that you know

have a sense for that you know um when it when it started airing yeah

um when it when it started airing yeah

um when it when it started airing yeah but before you know when when I got the

but before you know when when I got the

but before you know when when I got the pilot script I was like I had never

pilot script I was like I had never

pilot script I was like I had never really done television I was I mostly

really done television I was I mostly

really done television I was I mostly did movies in mostly independent movies

did movies in mostly independent movies

did movies in mostly independent movies so I wasn't really looking to tell me

so I wasn't really looking to tell me

so I wasn't really looking to tell me like an HBO series that's kind of that

like an HBO series that's kind of that

like an HBO series that's kind of that was kind of like The Bargain Basement of

was kind of like The Bargain Basement of

was kind of like The Bargain Basement of Television that was not Prestige at all

Television that was not Prestige at all

Television that was not Prestige at all the idea of a cable series was like oh

the idea of a cable series was like oh

the idea of a cable series was like oh God this probably isn't gonna go no

God this probably isn't gonna go no

God this probably isn't gonna go no one's gonna watch this and then

one's gonna watch this and then

one's gonna watch this and then you know here we are it turned out yeah

you know here we are it turned out yeah

you know here we are it turned out yeah it was pretty good wow but when the

it was pretty good wow but when the

it was pretty good wow but when the first season when it went on the air it

first season when it went on the air it

first season when it went on the air it caught on really quickly and you knew

caught on really quickly and you knew

caught on really quickly and you knew something was happening yeah how good

something was happening yeah how good

something was happening yeah how good are you guys at predicting

are you guys at predicting

are you guys at predicting are going to actually work when you're

are going to actually work when you're

are going to actually work when you're in them

in them

in them nope no idea truly no idea yeah but

nope no idea truly no idea yeah but

nope no idea truly no idea yeah but there's that thing I think this is kind

there's that thing I think this is kind

there's that thing I think this is kind of what I I keep coming back where you

of what I I keep coming back where you

of what I I keep coming back where you have high expectations and then the way

have high expectations and then the way

have high expectations and then the way they put the collage together exceeds

they put the collage together exceeds

they put the collage together exceeds your expectations totally better than

your expectations totally better than

your expectations totally better than you thought oh interesting what happens

you thought oh interesting what happens

you thought oh interesting what happens oh that's so wonderful it's all tool you

oh that's so wonderful it's all tool you

oh that's so wonderful it's all tool you like with too I mean like I was working

like with too I mean like I was working

like with too I mean like I was working with John Singleton so it was like oh

with John Singleton so it was like oh

with John Singleton so it was like oh yep you know yeah like that that's an

yep you know yeah like that that's an

yep you know yeah like that that's an interesting aspect of it where it's like

interesting aspect of it where it's like

interesting aspect of it where it's like oh look this could work you know but you

oh look this could work you know but you

oh look this could work you know but you don't think man yeah you kind of don't

don't think man yeah you kind of don't

don't think man yeah you kind of don't want to think about that stuff this show

want to think about that stuff this show

want to think about that stuff this show was the first time that I actually had

was the first time that I actually had

was the first time that I actually had that thought because I this is my first

that thought because I this is my first

that thought because I this is my first time doing a TV show so it's just a

time doing a TV show so it's just a

time doing a TV show so it's just a movie to me it's finished it's none of

movie to me it's finished it's none of

movie to me it's finished it's none of my business if it's like good or bad or

my business if it's like good or bad or

my business if it's like good or bad or how well it does it's just it's done now

how well it does it's just it's done now

how well it does it's just it's done now I finished that I'm doing the next thing

I finished that I'm doing the next thing

I finished that I'm doing the next thing so this time I was a little I had a

so this time I was a little I had a

so this time I was a little I had a little bit of investment interest I hope

little bit of investment interest I hope

little bit of investment interest I hope I hope it's good I kind of hope people

I hope it's good I kind of hope people

I hope it's good I kind of hope people watch it yeah and I I remember

watch it yeah and I I remember

watch it yeah and I I remember feeling like while we were shooting it

feeling like while we were shooting it

feeling like while we were shooting it I'm like okay I can tell this is sort of

I'm like okay I can tell this is sort of

I'm like okay I can tell this is sort of good quality but I'm sort of this who

good quality but I'm sort of this who

good quality but I'm sort of this who the hell is going to want to watch the

the hell is going to want to watch the

the hell is going to want to watch the show and then about halfway through I

show and then about halfway through I

show and then about halfway through I remember coming home and my wife asked

remember coming home and my wife asked

remember coming home and my wife asked how work was like I think it's I think

how work was like I think it's I think

how work was like I think it's I think the show's good I think it's good and I

the show's good I think it's good and I

the show's good I think it's good and I had that since while we were shooting it

had that since while we were shooting it

had that since while we were shooting it and then while watching it I had sort of

and then while watching it I had sort of

and then while watching it I had sort of had the same sort of feeling and it was

had the same sort of feeling and it was

had the same sort of feeling and it was reassuring to know that that was sort of

reassuring to know that that was sort of

reassuring to know that that was sort of what the response was was a little bit

what the response was was a little bit

what the response was was a little bit slow at the beginning and then

slow at the beginning and then

slow at the beginning and then people sort of connect feverish yeah and

people sort of connect feverish yeah and

people sort of connect feverish yeah and I feel like you're experiencing the same

I feel like you're experiencing the same

I feel like you're experiencing the same thing and you seem from the outside and

thing and you seem from the outside and

thing and you seem from the outside and this may it may be off but you seem to

this may it may be off but you seem to

this may it may be off but you seem to be having a lot of fun with it I mean

be having a lot of fun with it I mean

be having a lot of fun with it I mean you sort of engage with the dialogue I I

you sort of engage with the dialogue I I

you sort of engage with the dialogue I I truly don't understand the I don't have

truly don't understand the I don't have

truly don't understand the I don't have a good handle on the whole daddy thing

a good handle on the whole daddy thing

a good handle on the whole daddy thing you may yeah like what what is that

you may yeah like what what is that

you may yeah like what what is that exactly

exactly

exactly and and do you you Google uh yeah

and and do you you Google uh yeah

and and do you you Google uh yeah husband daddy with me I think one is

husband daddy with me I think one is

husband daddy with me I think one is like young old but you Google your name

like young old but you Google your name

like young old but you Google your name and daddy 1.5 million things come up but

and daddy 1.5 million things come up but

and daddy 1.5 million things come up but my question is like

you seem to be having fun with it uh

you seem to be having fun with it uh yeah I am having fun with it

yeah I am having fun with it

yeah I am having fun with it um I think that it it uh it it seems a

um I think that it it uh it it seems a

um I think that it it uh it it seems a little role related I think there was a

little role related I think there was a

little role related I think there was a period where

period where

period where um uh the Mandalorian is very Daddy to

um uh the Mandalorian is very Daddy to

um uh the Mandalorian is very Daddy to baby grogu

baby grogu

baby grogu um Joel is very uh Daddy to Ellie

um Joel is very uh Daddy to Ellie

um Joel is very uh Daddy to Ellie um these are daddy Parts yeah that's

um these are daddy Parts yeah that's

um these are daddy Parts yeah that's what it is I'm not a daddy I'm not gonna

what it is I'm not a daddy I'm not gonna

what it is I'm not a daddy I'm not gonna be a daddy

be a daddy

be a daddy I'm a Daddy nobody likes my daddy

what did you just say nobody likes

what did you just say nobody likes nobody likes my daddy part they like

nobody likes my daddy part they like

nobody likes my daddy part they like your daddy parts

your daddy parts

your daddy parts we were talking about how these parts

we were talking about how these parts

we were talking about how these parts sort of bleed into your lives

sort of bleed into your lives

sort of bleed into your lives um you obviously filmed the old man and

um you obviously filmed the old man and

um you obviously filmed the old man and and what was going on off screen was was

and what was going on off screen was was

and what was going on off screen was was sort of Darker and uh harder than

sort of Darker and uh harder than

sort of Darker and uh harder than anything I presumably you were doing in

anything I presumably you were doing in

anything I presumably you were doing in in your stunts and in your life as you

in your stunts and in your life as you

in your stunts and in your life as you return to a show which is about sort of

return to a show which is about sort of

return to a show which is about sort of aging and mortality and all of these

aging and mortality and all of these

aging and mortality and all of these things did you have a different

things did you have a different

things did you have a different perspective on the other side of of

perspective on the other side of of

perspective on the other side of of everything you went through

everything you went through

everything you went through yeah yeah it wasn't it wasn't too

yeah yeah it wasn't it wasn't too

yeah yeah it wasn't it wasn't too different it was like kind of more in

different it was like kind of more in

different it was like kind of more in Focus you know it was basically the

Focus you know it was basically the

Focus you know it was basically the same thing and it's the love thing you

same thing and it's the love thing you

same thing and it's the love thing you know you know that it's a chance when

know you know that it's a chance when

know you know that it's a chance when you in that kind of situation when

you in that kind of situation when

you in that kind of situation when you're dancing with your mortality you

you're dancing with your mortality you

you're dancing with your mortality you know you've realized how much you love

know you've realized how much you love

know you've realized how much you love the people that love you and you feel

the people that love you and you feel

the people that love you and you feel that love

that love

that love and just intensifies all that

and just intensifies all that

and just intensifies all that and then coming back to work after two

and then coming back to work after two

and then coming back to work after two years of being sick like that

years of being sick like that

years of being sick like that and it was so uh kind of psychedelic

and it was so uh kind of psychedelic

and it was so uh kind of psychedelic because uh all the same people you know

because uh all the same people you know

because uh all the same people you know the same crew the same cast was like we

the same crew the same cast was like we

the same crew the same cast was like we had a long weekend yeah and I felt like

had a long weekend yeah and I felt like

had a long weekend yeah and I felt like saying you know I had to wear this drain

saying you know I had to wear this drain

saying you know I had to wear this drain right because it went boom you know and

right because it went boom you know and

right because it went boom you know and that's the other thing that it brings to

that's the other thing that it brings to

that's the other thing that it brings to how fast all of this is going on man

how fast all of this is going on man

how fast all of this is going on man jeez one of the great things about what

jeez one of the great things about what

jeez one of the great things about what we're up to you know Pretenders

we're up to you know Pretenders

we're up to you know Pretenders basically right uh I love this thing I'm

basically right uh I love this thing I'm

basically right uh I love this thing I'm looking at uh Pedro there this is about

looking at uh Pedro there this is about

looking at uh Pedro there this is about the distance and right at the table when

the distance and right at the table when

the distance and right at the table when I first met you that's right that

I first met you that's right that

I first met you that's right that Reading Man and

Reading Man and

Reading Man and um and I felt that would ever hearing

um and I felt that would ever hearing

um and I felt that would ever hearing all you guys boom boom like we're in

all you guys boom boom like we're in

all you guys boom boom like we're in like a return is it a fraternity or you

like a return is it a fraternity or you

like a return is it a fraternity or you know there was a woman actress said

know there was a woman actress said

know there was a woman actress said she'd been but the club I was saying

she'd been but the club I was saying

she'd been but the club I was saying that uh Evan it's like and you come on

that uh Evan it's like and you come on

that uh Evan it's like and you come on do a set and you're doing a movie you

do a set and you're doing a movie you

do a set and you're doing a movie you only got a certain amount of time to

only got a certain amount of time to

only got a certain amount of time to kick ass and you want to be relaxed and

kick ass and you want to be relaxed and

kick ass and you want to be relaxed and you want to let everyone know hey we're

you want to let everyone know hey we're

you want to let everyone know hey we're in this together man love we love here

in this together man love we love here

in this together man love we love here we are love let's do what the love wants

we are love let's do what the love wants

we are love let's do what the love wants us to do and you know I got to say one

us to do and you know I got to say one

us to do and you know I got to say one thing about the reference you just ended

thing about the reference you just ended

thing about the reference you just ended up sitting at the table because I think

up sitting at the table because I think

up sitting at the table because I think that having been sort of chasing jobs

that having been sort of chasing jobs

that having been sort of chasing jobs for so many years of my life and and

for so many years of my life and and

for so many years of my life and and jobbing and no matter what it was

jobbing and no matter what it was

jobbing and no matter what it was whether it was a beer commercial or a

whether it was a beer commercial or a

whether it was a beer commercial or a play at Second Stage or whatever there's

play at Second Stage or whatever there's

play at Second Stage or whatever there's a lot of a heartbreak and a muscle gets

a lot of a heartbreak and a muscle gets

a lot of a heartbreak and a muscle gets kind of built around

kind of built around

kind of built around um you know

um you know

um you know making the assignment right and uh and

making the assignment right and uh and

making the assignment right and uh and then I get this job and

then I get this job and

then I get this job and you are one of my favorite actors and I

you are one of my favorite actors and I

you are one of my favorite actors and I grew up watching your movies and I uh

grew up watching your movies and I uh

grew up watching your movies and I uh have to do this I'm sorry but I got a

have to do this I'm sorry but I got a

have to do this I'm sorry but I got a job and one of the earlier days of the

job and one of the earlier days of the

job and one of the earlier days of the experience

experience

experience was sitting at a table with uh Jeff in

was sitting at a table with uh Jeff in

was sitting at a table with uh Jeff in kingsman the Golden Circle and I got to

kingsman the Golden Circle and I got to

kingsman the Golden Circle and I got to sit and watch you work and work things

sit and watch you work and work things

sit and watch you work and work things out and there was all this interesting

out and there was all this interesting

out and there was all this interesting stuff that you wanted to do with the um

stuff that you wanted to do with the um

stuff that you wanted to do with the um with the whiskey and and uh uh use it as

with the whiskey and and uh uh use it as

with the whiskey and and uh uh use it as mouthwash but you wouldn't drink you

mouthwash but you wouldn't drink you

mouthwash but you wouldn't drink you wouldn't swallow and you'd spit it into

wouldn't swallow and you'd spit it into

wouldn't swallow and you'd spit it into a thing and it was like with working

a thing and it was like with working

a thing and it was like with working with all that and I it was such an

with all that and I it was such an

with all that and I it was such an incredible school and it was also as if

incredible school and it was also as if

incredible school and it was also as if as if it was one of your earlier jobs in

as if it was one of your earlier jobs in

as if it was one of your earlier jobs in terms of the amount of that was my first

terms of the amount of that was my first

terms of the amount of that was my first time after I was sick man was it oh yeah

time after I was sick man was it oh yeah

time after I was sick man was it oh yeah I was in such and I had no idea God damn

I was in such and I had no idea God damn

I was in such and I had no idea God damn you look great oh and you were so just

you look great oh and you were so just

you look great oh and you were so just the you just I was taking you there and

the you just I was taking you there and

the you just I was taking you there and you were working here

you were working here

you were working here never forget to care this much about

never forget to care this much about

never forget to care this much about whatever you're doing never forget to

whatever you're doing never forget to

whatever you're doing never forget to care as much as this because this guy is

you know it's what happens when

you know it's what happens when you really care and you're really into

you really care and you're really into

you really care and you're really into it and then you you do that thing that

it and then you you do that thing that

it and then you you do that thing that we all do which you're you're on your

we all do which you're you're on your

we all do which you're you're on your way home and you're like [ __ ] why did

way home and you're like [ __ ] why did

way home and you're like [ __ ] why did why did I do that thing I should have

why did I do that thing I should have

why did I do that thing I should have done that no no no no no no no no no

done that no no no no no no no no no

done that no no no no no no no no no let's not even talk about that why do we

let's not even talk about that why do we

let's not even talk about that why do we got to go there now I know what to do

got to go there now I know what to do

got to go there now I know what to do now I know what the scene's about yeah

now I know what the scene's about yeah

now I know what the scene's about yeah [ __ ] it's what you deserve for getting

[ __ ] it's what you deserve for getting

[ __ ] it's what you deserve for getting into this in the first place

into this in the first place

into this in the first place we did it to ourselves you practice

we did it to ourselves you practice

we did it to ourselves you practice letting go

letting go

letting go this is something about how I'd go with

this is something about how I'd go with

this is something about how I'd go with that and what does that practice look

that and what does that practice look

that and what does that practice look like breathing has a lot to do with it

like breathing has a lot to do with it

like breathing has a lot to do with it you know I don't know you guys are into

you know I don't know you guys are into

you know I don't know you guys are into Wim Hof yeah I've been pushing a lot of

Wim Hof yeah I've been pushing a lot of

Wim Hof yeah I've been pushing a lot of stuff

stuff

stuff I'm in the Wim Hof too oh you are yeah

I'm in the Wim Hof too oh you are yeah

I'm in the Wim Hof too oh you are yeah should we do it yeah it might pass out

should we do it yeah it might pass out

should we do it yeah it might pass out but let's do it

but let's do it

but let's do it you know it's a cool thing but that

you know it's a cool thing but that

you know it's a cool thing but that would but that would help you right

would but that would help you right

would but that would help you right during the months

yeah you know like when you're acting

yeah you know like when you're acting and you say oh you're you're still you

and you say oh you're you're still you

and you say oh you're you're still you got enough let me one more take please

got enough let me one more take please

got enough let me one more take please no we got to move on oh man no

no we got to move on oh man no

no we got to move on oh man no and yeah you look at it and you say oh

and yeah you look at it and you say oh

and yeah you look at it and you say oh yeah the guy was right you know or the

yeah the guy was right you know or the

yeah the guy was right you know or the other the opposite which is the worst

other the opposite which is the worst

other the opposite which is the worst feeling when you say after a take I

feeling when you say after a take I

feeling when you say after a take I kicked ass and they're like I kicked ass

kicked ass and they're like I kicked ass

kicked ass and they're like I kicked ass then you go see the dailies and it's a

then you go see the dailies and it's a

then you go see the dailies and it's a piece of crawfish

piece of crawfish

piece of crawfish what is it doing

the hardest thing about it all really at

the hardest thing about it all really at the end of the day is what your

the end of the day is what your

the end of the day is what your relationship is to yourself that's right

relationship is to yourself that's right

relationship is to yourself that's right and you know what and that's not small

and you know what and that's not small

and you know what and that's not small to go into that conversation with

to go into that conversation with

to go into that conversation with yourself so that you can be fulfill

yourself so that you can be fulfill

yourself so that you can be fulfill something and and and and and for it to

something and and and and and for it to

something and and and and and for it to be on camera or in front of an audience

be on camera or in front of an audience

be on camera or in front of an audience um is it is a psychologically crazy

um is it is a psychologically crazy

um is it is a psychologically crazy thing to do to kind of be like sometimes

thing to do to kind of be like sometimes

thing to do to kind of be like sometimes you just walking

you just walking

you just walking oh yeah

oh yeah

oh yeah yeah and but you and yeah

yeah and but you and yeah

yeah and but you and yeah like all the time if you're me yeah and

like all the time if you're me yeah and

like all the time if you're me yeah and you're just like wow I remember there

you're just like wow I remember there

you're just like wow I remember there are so many instances where I'm I'm sort

are so many instances where I'm I'm sort

are so many instances where I'm I'm sort of like in that moment I'm like

of like in that moment I'm like

of like in that moment I'm like can't be good for you and it's not and

can't be good for you and it's not and

can't be good for you and it's not and it's not a matter of like the fact that

it's not a matter of like the fact that

it's not a matter of like the fact that I'm living you know the apocalypse for

I'm living you know the apocalypse for

I'm living you know the apocalypse for 12 months or or somebody who's

12 months or or somebody who's

12 months or or somebody who's terrifying and and and or like

terrifying and and and or like

terrifying and and and or like incredibly toxic never annoying never

incredibly toxic never annoying never

incredibly toxic never annoying never annoying

annoying

annoying toxic family Dynamics

toxic family Dynamics

toxic family Dynamics um

um but yeah no kidding

but yeah no kidding

but yeah no kidding it it can feel like it can feel like a

it it can feel like it can feel like a

it it can feel like it can feel like a crazy thing therefore I feel like the

crazy thing therefore I feel like the

crazy thing therefore I feel like the one thing to that you have to that we

one thing to that you have to that we

one thing to that you have to that we deserve is to actually let go what's

deserve is to actually let go what's

deserve is to actually let go what's left on on your sort of bucket list your

left on on your sort of bucket list your

left on on your sort of bucket list your professional bucket list are there

professional bucket list are there

professional bucket list are there things that you'd still very much like

things that you'd still very much like

things that you'd still very much like to do when we can manifest them right

to do when we can manifest them right

to do when we can manifest them right here right now I would like to be in an

here right now I would like to be in an

here right now I would like to be in an ensemble of uh

it's cool

it's cool I I uh keep resisting things and I keep

I I uh keep resisting things and I keep

I I uh keep resisting things and I keep kind of popping up and I you know resist

kind of popping up and I you know resist

kind of popping up and I you know resist and so what are you resisting right now

and so what are you resisting right now

and so what are you resisting right now what are you resisting right now but it

what are you resisting right now but it

what are you resisting right now but it is

so good no I mean like with the old man

so good no I mean like with the old man I really resisted meetings uh you know

I really resisted meetings uh you know

I really resisted meetings uh you know John uh Steinberg because I knew you can

John uh Steinberg because I knew you can

John uh Steinberg because I knew you can eat with a creative person another

eat with a creative person another

eat with a creative person another creative cat man it's fun and you're

creative cat man it's fun and you're

creative cat man it's fun and you're jamming and you're in the world

jamming and you're in the world

jamming and you're in the world yeah that's what happened so I resisted

yeah that's what happened so I resisted

yeah that's what happened so I resisted man

man

man what about the eleven what's up what

what about the eleven what's up what

what about the eleven what's up what have you not done that you just love to

have you not done that you just love to

have you not done that you just love to do

do uh cartwheels car wheels I'd like to do

uh cartwheels car wheels I'd like to do

uh cartwheels car wheels I'd like to do a play yeah have you ever I've done a

a play yeah have you ever I've done a

a play yeah have you ever I've done a couple but nothing

couple but nothing

couple but nothing um as I was older you know so that'd be

um as I was older you know so that'd be

um as I was older you know so that'd be kind of

kind of

kind of kind of craving that yeah yeah that'd be

kind of craving that yeah yeah that'd be

kind of craving that yeah yeah that'd be great I'd love to see on stage

great I'd love to see on stage

great I'd love to see on stage I'd like to play Someone tall okay good

I'd like to play Someone tall okay good

I'd like to play Someone tall okay good um good just to see what that's like

um good just to see what that's like

um good just to see what that's like yeah

yeah

yeah no I don't I never like a boring answer

no I don't I never like a boring answer

no I don't I never like a boring answer I don't that's okay I have no idea until

I don't that's okay I have no idea until

I don't that's okay I have no idea until like the whirlpool right now no idea are

like the whirlpool right now no idea are

like the whirlpool right now no idea are there careers that you that you guys

there careers that you that you guys

there careers that you that you guys look at people and say like wow that

look at people and say like wow that

look at people and say like wow that would be cool you know working with uh

would be cool you know working with uh

would be cool you know working with uh Murray Abraham was pretty amazing you

Murray Abraham was pretty amazing you

Murray Abraham was pretty amazing you know he's

know he's

know he's when we were shooting he I think he was

when we were shooting he I think he was

when we were shooting he I think he was 82. he probably was the best actor I've

82. he probably was the best actor I've

82. he probably was the best actor I've ever worked with and is so on every his

ever worked with and is so on every his

ever worked with and is so on every his energy is like somebody physically like

energy is like somebody physically like

energy is like somebody physically like somebody half his age literally but also

somebody half his age literally but also

somebody half his age literally but also his

his

his um love of everything and just being so

um love of everything and just being so

um love of everything and just being so on it

on it

on it as an actor with his choices

as an actor with his choices

as an actor with his choices with all to the fullest expression of

with all to the fullest expression of

with all to the fullest expression of the art you know in his early 80s I was

the art you know in his early 80s I was

the art you know in his early 80s I was like wow that's very impressive that

like wow that's very impressive that

like wow that's very impressive that gave me a a perspective that I hadn't

gave me a a perspective that I hadn't

gave me a a perspective that I hadn't had before to be honest yeah I did this

had before to be honest yeah I did this

had before to be honest yeah I did this film called farming and it was like a

film called farming and it was like a

film called farming and it was like a real person it was a director of his

real person it was a director of his

real person it was a director of his story and I that bug I kind of caught of

story and I that bug I kind of caught of

story and I that bug I kind of caught of just like playing real people I think

just like playing real people I think

just like playing real people I think that's just I mean that's it's just so

that's just I mean that's it's just so

that's just I mean that's it's just so much fun

much fun

much fun um so I'd love to play a musician

um so I'd love to play a musician

um so I'd love to play a musician I don't know there's a saxophone in my

I don't know there's a saxophone in my

I don't know there's a saxophone in my living room that's been sat there for

living room that's been sat there for

living room that's been sat there for two years like during covet I was like

two years like during covet I was like

two years like during covet I was like I'm gonna learn the sacks and I'm gonna

I'm gonna learn the sacks and I'm gonna

I'm gonna learn the sacks and I'm gonna learn Spanish and fast forward a student

learn Spanish and fast forward a student

learn Spanish and fast forward a student take that saxophone out

take that saxophone out

take that saxophone out and get it on a piano wire don't put it

and get it on a piano wire don't put it

and get it on a piano wire don't put it in the case see that's the you got to

in the case see that's the you got to

in the case see that's the you got to open the case

open the case

open the case huh mine's just hanging on like oh God

huh mine's just hanging on like oh God

huh mine's just hanging on like oh God yep yes that's good but one even one

yep yes that's good but one even one

yep yes that's good but one even one step if you hang up by a piano wire

step if you hang up by a piano wire

step if you hang up by a piano wire right at the thing right you're where

right at the thing right you're where

right at the thing right you're where you have so you can just go

and then you're swinging there

and then you're swinging there you know don't you think

[Music]

[Music] yeah I love it I love it

yeah I love it I love it

yeah I love it I love it um well thank you guys all for uh for

um well thank you guys all for uh for

um well thank you guys all for uh for being here you survived uh it was fun

being here you survived uh it was fun

being here you survived uh it was fun thank you

thank you

thank you [Music]

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