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an honest question for New York's Nassau county conservatives: why cheer this? | Louis Rossmann | YouTubeToText
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The content argues against the widespread adoption of AI-powered surveillance technologies, like facial recognition cameras, by highlighting their ineffectiveness, potential for abuse, and the erosion of privacy, urging for a critical evaluation of such measures beyond partisan political stances.
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Hey everybody, how's it going? Hope
you're having a lovely day. When I make
arguments when I'm talking about flock
AI powered surveillance cameras, I try
to keep them as general arguments, not
as CISA arguments. So a general argument
is an argument that I believe if done
properly will work on a lot of the
population. A CISA argument is an
argument that may work really well on
this person without a lot of effort, but
it will have the exact opposite effect
if I use it on somebody else. So I'll
give you an example. A generalized
argument could be an argument where I
say that in Austin after having these
cameras up for a good period of time, it
cost over $7,000 per arrest and it had
less than 0.2% effectiveness rate, which
is horrible, and now they want to spend
$2 million of your money on it. A CISA
argument would be these cameras are
being used by ICE. What's the difference
between these two? The first argument is
an argument where regardless of where
you are on the on the political
spectrum, it's just it doesn't work. it.
If you were to spend the exact same
amount of money that you were to spend
on those cameras on hiring actual police
officers and putting them in areas of
crime, scientifically and statistically
speaking, you would be much better off.
Whereas the second argument, I don't
have to look into statistics. I don't
have to do a lot of work. But if I'm
talking to somebody that I know that
like thinks that borders are silly and
legal immigration is not an issue, the
moment I say that I this these cameras
help ICE, I have my I have my argument.
I'm done. I've landed my argument.
However, if I'm speaking to somebody who
thinks illegal immigration is a bad
thing, they may not even know what flock
is. But they may now think, "Oh, wow.
That's a great thing. These help ICE.
Don't threaten me with a good time and
they'll look it up and go to their local
city council town hall meeting and vote
and ask their representatives to vote in
favor of it." So, a CISA argument is an
argument that works really well in this
person, but will immediately be undone
when you speak to somebody who has the
opposite politics. A general argument is
an argument that's going to work across
the board. I've always tried to stick to
the arguments that work across the
board. Here is the actual effectiveness
rate of these. Here is what politicians
are saying. Here's this person saying,
"You have no expectation of privacy when
driving a stolen vehicle who's making
the assumption that every single person
driving has a stolen vehicle." That's
that's not the way the whole innocent
until proven guilty thing works. But
anyway, reason I'm saying this is
because I feel like I'm being baited
into making one of the CISO arguments
and I can't help myself. I'm making this
because I've gotten a lot of emails
asking about this since Mam Donnie won
the election. There is somebody in
Nassau County, executive Bruce Blakeman,
and there were a bunch of news articles
coming out about him. New York City
suburb makes major security move by city
border after Mdani victory. Talks like
he's pro criminal. We're doing
everything necessary to make sure that
Nassau County is safe. Okay, got no
problem with that. Scroll down. In an
interview with Fox News, Blakeman, who
was just reelected to serve a second
term in the majority of Blue County,
said we'll be taking extra precautions
to preserve law and order. Okay, fine.
Nothing wrong with that. We'll do
everything necessary to make sure Nassau
County is safe. We are installing
technology along the border that will
read license plates, have facial
recognition, and have video cam. He also
stated they're hiring new police
officers in addition to the existing
force and the 100 police cadets
currently enrolled. Hiring more police.
Fine, go for it. Some of the comments,
license plate readers and facial
recognition is needed. Track everyone
coming in. Put them at shopping centers,
too. 62 up votes to two down votes.
Someone says, "I don't want anyone in
New York to use facial recognition on
me. That's way too much government in my
day-to-day life tracking me. No thank
you." And he got ratio two up votes to
18 down votes. Then you probably never
want to go out in public. Facial
recognition is used everywhere for a
variety of reasons. The only way to
avoid it is to not go out. If that's
true, you should never leave your house.
Cameras are everywhere. Don't break the
law and it shouldn't matter if you're
caught on camera or not. Besides, it's
New York. If you're a criminal, they
don't lock you up anyway. So, okay,
let's we're not going to get into all
this salt and other [ __ ] Let's just
focus on what what he's saying. I'm
going to assume that if you live in
Nassau County, which is not New York
City, and you're reading and commenting
in the foxnews.com comment section, that
you're probably more rightle leaning. If
that's the case, I'm just going to make
that assumption. Let's go over a few
things here that are why I find it very
surprising that this group of people is
very very excited in ratioing this hard.
Anybody that says they think that having
cameras everywhere are a bad idea. I
lived in New York City for 32 years of
my life. I was there for 2020 during CO.
You you conservatives in New York. You
remember what CO was like? You remember
2020? You remember when the [ __ ]
mayor of New York City wanted to come
out with a a tip line you would send
pictures to if people were not socially
distancing properly? You remember that?
Remember the [ __ ] governor that
wanted to mandate how many people you
could have in your house for
Thanksgiving? Gatherings of over 10
people are not permitted. Please have
the police sweep homes looking for
children hiding in the attic writing
diaries. Tell your boy Gavin Newsome.
You were here for that, right? You were
here when the mayor set up eight tip
lines that if people are 5 1/2 ft apart
instead of 6 feet apart, they could get
in trouble. And you, after living
through all of this, think it's a great
idea to have AI facial recognition
cameras set up everywhere that city
employees can use. Cover 45 is going to
be lit. They don't even have to have a
tip line anymore. They can just send a
fine that have a little catchy
interface. Anybody that's 5.9 ft apart
instead of six, please figure out who
they are and send a fine of $1,000
directly to their house and disable
their car from driving, too. Cuz by
then, let's be real, that's going to be
part of this. Do you forget this? Do you
forget that we very very recently lived
in a city that was so psychotic that you
were not allowed to have indoor dining,
but you could have outdoor dining. But
it was cold outside. So they built these
structures on the street that were so
closed off that when the summer came
around, they had to put [ __ ] air
conditioners inside of them to keep them
cool. But that's outside because you
couldn't allow people to eat inside. You
lived through this, New York conservatives.
conservatives.
And you think it's a good idea to give
your government the power to watch you
everywhere that you go? Why?
Why?
You're going to own the socialist by
turning your own area into a police
state. These people that claim that, oh,
you have no expectation of privacy in
public when you go outside. There's
cameras everywhere already. What does
CCTV stand for? What does the first C
stand for? Closed circuit television.
CCTV. Closed circuit television. I have
cameras outside of my store. I have
cameras in my house. I have cameras in a
lot of different places. You know who
has access to them? Me, not a city
employee. Nobody else has access to
them. I have access to them. If somebody
wishes to get the camera footage, they
have to go to my house and they have to
have a warrant or they have to knock on
the door. There could be 800,000 cameras
in your neighborhood. As long as those
cameras are closed circuit television
cameras closed, there's no city employee
that can just go up and go, "How many
people had 11 people over for
Thanksgiving instead of 10? Please
identify their faces and send each one a
fine. That is not something that you can
do when the cameras belong to the
individual in a closed system. That is
something you can do when those cameras
are being put up by your government. The
difference between private businesses
having cameras that they're the only
ones that can access and the government
having AI powered surveillance cameras
that can see where you are at any given
point in time is literally the
difference between the United States and
China. I don't understand how a
difference of this magnitude is not
being pointed out, especially since
we're supposed to be against the Chinese
authoritarian state and the surveillance
state. We're literally cheering on
building it in our own [ __ ] country
just to own the mayor that got elected
in the city next to us. And that's the
thing that I think bothers me about all
of this more than anything else is this
idea that we just need to do everything
that's in this basket. So like Mayor
Mandani is going in this direction or we
perceive him as going in this direction.
So we need to go in that direction. We
need to take everything in the basket of
this direction. We need to do all of it.
Not just some of it, but all of it. Just
because like just to make a stand, just
so I I can be on the news saying, "I'm
doing all of this stuff. Look at me.
look at how awesome I am as a politician
to be the opposite of him. It's not
coming from the right place. My personal
trainer says this all the time. Human
beings are very bad at balance. You
can't find he. You're either here or
you're here. And it's just incredibly
shortsighted. I'm not asking people to
change who they voted for. I'm not
asking you to change your entire
mentality or your ideology on life. All
I'm asking you to do is be honest with
yourself. Did I get caught up in
something? Am I caught up in the
particular rhetoric of my time? Did I
get excited? Should I be building so the
infrastructure for a surveillance state
that essentially cancels out the
difference between the United States and
China and be proud of it as I'm doing
it? Or was that maybe just a bad [ __ ]
idea? Was that me getting caught up in
something? That's it. I'm not going to
ask you to change who you vote for. I'm
not going to say that you're a bad
person because you want to live in a
safe neighborhood. And you see it how
horrible the accuracy is. The thing will
mistake a B for an eight and somebody
will wind up getting pulled over by the
police and held at gunpoint when they're
innocent. Can you imagine what would
happen if it thinks you're parking in
front of this house instead of that
house and they think that 11 people went
into that house instead of 10 for CO
version three in 2045? They'll be able
to just take away your driving
privileges and send everybody there a
$1,000 fine. I want you to think about
that next time you hear somebody make
that argument that this camera's outside
anyway, so you shouldn't care about
this. Look what Flock is doing with this
stuff right now. They are labeling
people in cars, motorcycles, bicycles.
They are actually even classifying the
different maze that children scream. I'm
not kidding. Given how hard it can be to
distinguish between a children and adult
screaming, please make use of the
certainty drop down shown on the right.
Somewhere in Asia, East, and Europe,
someone is listening to American
children in distress cataloging their
terror and screams for a few dollars an
hour. These cameras are being used to
catalog and categorize all of these
different types of things. People that
are standing next to each other, people
walking their dog. It's [ __ ] creepy.
I am not kidding when I say that it is
very possible 20 years from now for you
to get automated fines because the
governor or the mayor thinks that you're
doing something that he doesn't agree
with. and you're creating the
infrastructure for it right now and
you're cheering it on. And I don't think
that you should be. The next time you
hear somebody say some nonsense like,
"Well, there's already cameras outside,
so you shouldn't care about this."
[ __ ] Those are a different type of
camera. The camera in front of my house
is only viewable by me. Nobody from the
city or the state is able to use it to
catch you in a drag net and then use
some sort of AI nonsense to try and
figure out exactly what type of behavior
you were taking part in so that that
they can find you or get you in trouble
or arrest you for [ __ ] This is has so
much potential to be negatively abused.
And if you don't believe me, all I do is
I ask that you remember 5 years ago.
Anything that aggravated you as a
conservative about COVID in New York,
imagine that times 80. I feel weird for
the fact that I even have to explain any
of this. And this is something that was
already settled by the Supreme Court in
2018. In Carpenter versus United States,
the Supreme Court explicitly rejected
the argument that venturing into the
public eliminates Fourth Amendment
protection. Chief Justice John Roberts
wrote that the government's access to
127 days of cell site location data
tracking movements of public roads
achieved near perfect surveillance as if
it had attached an ankle monitor to the
phone's user. The court said that a
person does not surrender all fourth
amendment protection by venturing into
the public sphere. And I have many other
examples of this. There is a very very
big difference between your neighbor
having a surveillance camera outside his
house and these cameras which are
accessible by hundreds to thousands to
tens of thousands of city employees that
then have a nice little chat GPT like
interface that will eventually allow you
to just type something in like I don't
know find me everybody that is wearing
their mask below their nose send them a
$2,000 fine and revoke their privileges
to drive or some [ __ ] When a business
owner gets attacked by a bum and he
defends himself and the [ __ ]
districts attorney that doesn't
prosecute the criminals decides to
prosecute the business owner, I speak
out about it. When the charges are
dropped, I'm happy with it. And when
people try to destroy cars in front of
my own store, before the police even
come by, my own employees and myself are
there chasing the criminal. I am not
soft on crime. I am not pro crime. And
I'm fine with you doing whatever it is
that you need to do to stop crime in
your neighborhood. I could understand
people having differences, but like the
difference of 62 to2 in some of these
comments. And this is just one comment
section, but I've seen this repeat
itself across many different websites
and comment sections where people are
praising this gentleman for his tough on
crime stance of installing all this ALPR
surveillance all over his his area and
the citizens are incredibly happy with
it. I would understand that if those
people were in a coma from 2019 through
2022, I would completely get it. But you
lived in New York through this. I would
expect that conservative New Yorkers who
live right on the boundary of New York
City and one of the surrounding areas
would have been one of the people who
would be a bull work against this type
of surveillance being installed in their
state, not being excited for it after
living through 2020. And that's the
thing. I'm I'm not trying to tell you
that you're wrong for who you vote. I'm
not going to tell you that you're wrong
for who you vote for. I'm not going to
tell you that you're wrong for wanting
to have a low crime neighborhood and
want to do all these initiatives, any of
that. I'm just trying to plant a seed
here. Do you think this is a good idea?
I want you to think about the speed at
which this technology advances. I want
you to think about all the people that
are supposed to supposed to be
responsible for protecting your privacy
of your personal data and how that's
actually played out over the last 5 to
10 years. How do you think this is going
to go when a politician that dislikes
you and everything you believe in is in
office and has power over that apparatus
that's been created.
Think of all the [ __ ] up [ __ ] that
they would do if they have a nice little
chat sheep like interface that they can
use anytime they want to make a query
with no auditing. I'm going to throw
that out there.
I don't think it's a great idea, but you
do you. I don't live there anymore, so I
don't care.
That's it for today. And as always, I
hope you learned something. I'll see you
in the next video. Bye. Now, you have a
responsibility to me. It's not just
about you.
You have a responsibility to me. Right?
We started here saying it's not about
me. It's about we. Get your head about
the around the we concept. So, it's not
all about you. It's about me, too.
>> They can't wait for the money. They're
out of money.
>> Yeah. We're talking about a couple of
days lag.
>> They're saying that is there a
fundamental right to work? If the
government can't get me the money when I
need it. Is there
>> You want to go, by the way, you want to
go to work? Go take a job as an
essential worker.
>> Do it tomorrow.
Right. You're working.
>> I am. You're an essential worker, so go
take a job as an essential worker.
>> But but the people aren't hiring because
of the
>> No, there are people hiring. You can get
a job as an essential worker. So now you
can go to work and you can be an
essential worker and you're not going to
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