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Michael B. Jordan EXCLUSIVE: “You’re Ignoring Your Intuition! — That’s Why You Feel So Lost” | Jay Shetty Podcast | YouTubeToText
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someone for who they are and today's
guest is someone that I've been wanting
on the show for years so I'm extremely
happy and extremely present even more
than ever because this has been an
opportunity I've been looking forward to
today I'm talking to the one and only
Michael B Jordan a director actor
producer who's recognized as an industry
leader invested in bringing social
change to Hollywood through his art and
philanthropy making his feature film
directorial debut Michael B Jordan
recently reprised the role of Adonis
Creed in Creed 3 I'm a big Rocky fan so
when Creed dropped you knew I had to see
it uh which had the biggest opening
weekend for a Creed film and biggest
domestic opening for a sports movie ever
ever of all time I just need to clarify
that up next Michael B Jordan is set to
start in Ryan Cougar's next feature film
for Warner Brothers and Michael B Jordan
also was named one of times's 100 most
influential people of 2023 he's been
recognized as people's 2026 sexiest man
alive my team went on about this and one
of the New York Times 25 greatest actors
of the 21st century and now he's got a
new health drink out you know I'm a big
fan of health and wellness it's called
Moss the first of its kind SE Moss
beverage available Nationwide as you're
listening and watching today welcome to
the show Michael B Jordan Mike it's
great to have you here man J appreciate
it man that introduction is great I just
need just carry you around with me
everywhere I go and just introduce me
places uh but no I appreciate it thanks
for having me well well I wanted to add
also like in the few moments we've spent
together even just walking in you know
if I can add to that intro you know
extremely humble gracious kind like
thoughtful like it's it's also nice
meeting that and I and I love that this
platform is a space that can come out
and we were just talking about that you
were saying that y you know you've
almost been looking for a space where
you can share that because you don't do
a lot of press I don't I don't I you
know it's seasons for it you know
obviously you know when you have a
project coming out or something you need
to promote you know there it's a part of
that that news cycle but for me
personally I I I try to you know kind of
say to myself a little bit and and and
um very cautious of how how you want
people to get to know you you know when
you have opportunities to speak and and
share things about yourself um and not
kind of you know be a part of sometimes
other people's agenda you know so so
that's uh but but but been a big big fan
of yours for for a long time and the
work that you've done and and you are
currently doing and um and felt like
this was a good good time to you know to
get out and talk and and uh you know
share some things with about me I guess
you know I've uh it's been it's been a
journey you know it's been it's been a
journey so uh you know this a nice
little check-in point I think yeah I
love that well I appreciate the trust
and I love that checking point because
it must be fascinating to look back at
something and then think about where you
were in life what was going on in your
mind so I wanted to start with there was
this one thing you said in an interview
and we were talking about this earlier
this idea of written versus being able
to explain correct and there was this
great point you made that I think people
wouldn't recognize with the amount of
success you've had had the hits you've
had you know I think people want to know
about you and learn about you but you
said when you come from where I come
from and everybody doesn't get those
breaks that luck you start to question
why am I successful in life why did I go
this way and everybody went that way and
I just thought that that was you know
again extremely humble and also
representative of where you grew up how
you came up like which way did everyone
go and where did that luck begin for you
I think coming up in in in Nork New
Jersey coming up in that environment and
you know having you know when you're
younger you know you're living life you
know you're you're taking it at day at a
time you know you're going to basketball
practice you're going to school you know
you're going to church you know you're
uh for me it was you know taking a lot
of trips to New York City going on
auditions at a really really young age
and just figuring out what what what
that is having having parents pretty
aware you know um and and very present
in my life you know growing up uh you
know that was that was rare amongst my
family amongst my friend group you know
uh having both parents that was there
and very present and um aware of my
environment as well you know what what
uh you know being told to look out for
these things and uh make good choices to
be disciplined to be focused on things
you know get your school you know all
the the uh you know the the positives in
in in growing up in in an environment
like that and you know hats off to my
parents and to uh to sacrifice so much
to make sure their kids you know were
safe and and grew up in you know in you
know grw up open in that environment
ain't easy making ends of meet you know
um grew up very poor but didn't feel
like it you know what I'm saying it was
very you know think they did a good job
at hiding those things you know I think
as we get older we look back was like oh
man we went through that oh oh that's
why we slept in the kitchen at one time
with the oven open or oh that's when we
stayed at Grandma's house for like you
know a couple weeks when you you know so
you you you get that reflection of of
how we kind of grew up and and I think
for me you know always having a you know
a bigger purpose I think or just you
know just that optimism you know that
that I was a big dreamer as a kid and
and I think you know you start to not
just to focusing on the just the work of
it all but since I was working such a
young age that's the thing that I can
kind of point to of you know booking
auditions and getting this job and
traveling to this place and experiencing
these things and coming back home with
these experiences and not having a lot
of people who could relate or could you
know I could soundboard off of and and I
think in feeling like that you don't
want to alienate those people you know
uh and I think and this is all I guess
in hindsight you don't share these
stories as much you know maybe you
should because you don't want somebody
to feel like inadequate or you know not
being able to have that experience that
you might have had and I think you know
that snowballs as you as you get older
and from stepping stone to Stepping
Stone as as as I continue to be
successful at a at a at a young age um
you start to question why am I being so
successful and the people that look just
like me that are right next to me and
these everyday things aren't necessarily
doing that or not choosing to you know
just didn't have those options that were
laid out to them uh and I and I think it
um you start to doubt yourself for
whatever reason or feel guilty for the
things that you may or may not have um
even though you know our parents were
people of service you know uh block
parties or you know cooking Church
dinners or you know whenever you know my
house was the house that everybody came
to at some point whether we were gonna
get pizza that night or dad was gonna
take everybody camping or going to these
thing like it was that was kind of my
house within within my neighborhood and
community and and um so I think for me
being a person of service kind of Cu you
know kind of comes from how I was raised
and and and those those are the examples
that I knew growing up I always felt
lucky too as you become more successful
and and you you see less people look
like you that are being successful in
this in this realm and you end up being
the one guy that looks like me that's
successful or the couple guys that or
The Usual Suspects that you see in the
audition room or and things of that
nature you know you start to sometimes
question why why why are you now I can I
I I feel as though it was my it was my
path you know it was my purpose and
spirituality and growing up in a in a
household that was very focused on you
know you know church and spiritual and
meditation and and and just being aware
of the world that we live in you know I
felt I was destined for for something
not knowing what that was but just
something wow yeah and I mean when I'm
when I'm hearing that it sounds like I
love what you said you like you know
they they hid we were poor and we didn't
even see that but this idea of like you
sound so when I when I see you talk
about your family and for those of you
watching you can see it on Mike's face
but there's so much joy and there's
Bliss and there's like a there's like a
happiness when you're looking back on
that time like I can see it's a POS POS
experience because of how you feel
you've been loved and cared for and
supported even though the resources may
not have been there or the access or
opportunities and and I was wondering
when I was listening to you like is
there a memory or an experience from
your childhood that you think defines
who you are today like was there a a
memory or a story that you have in your
mind of an experience you went through
that you think brings out maybe that
service element or brings out that
purposeful element and I think this this
Bliss and this this this appreci for how
I grew up comes in hindsight M you know
like you know the first time you have a
moment where you're like pick up the
phone you know one morning you just call
your mom and be like thank you I get it
I I'm and I'm sorry I'm sorry for for
being that kid at some point and I'm so
sorry for not understanding I totally
get what you guys are going through
sheesh I love you guys you know like you
you have those moments when you get
older you know that you just can't
really have that perspective when you're
when you were a kid and I think you know
I was very mischievous you know as well
and and and I think there were moments
when my dad disciplined me you know for
for for for whatever the you know
whatever I did at that time and then my
mom would have a conversation me around
the why and and then being also forced
or pushed and nudged into a space where
you had to acknowledge your siblings
also you know in that situation and and
and the importance of family and what
that means you know my parents have
different upbringings you know what I'm
saying from you know uh in different
family structures growing up but one
thing they've always provided us with is
just a sense of like family over
everything you know and how important
that is and that just kind of kept the
groundedness to me throughout so I think
just the experiences of of just family I
like your point about hindsight I've
definitely made that call to my mom for
sure like yeah yeah I've made that call
to we around the same age so for me it's
like I made that call and I think I made
it probably like 25 maybe 26 yeah
probably around then when I finally made
that call and not that I didn't love my
mom before that of course I did but it
was like that honest understanding of
just how hard it was to do what she did
CU she was raising two kids she was
dropping us to school picking us up she
was the bread winner of the family she
made us breakfast lunch and dinner
freshh every day like and you don't
recognize that as a kid you don't
realize the sacrifice the hustle the and
and always making you feel loved on top
of doing all of that it's hard work
you've talked you said that now you feel
like you've got to a place that it's
your path what was that switch for you
that went from like I don't deserve this
God like I feel out of place I'm lucky
to being like no actually now I see it
as this was meant to be my path because
I think a lot of people and a lot of our
listeners will be there like a lot of
people are like they're making moves and
maybe they're first person in their
family to go to college or maybe they're
the first person who started up a
business and an entrepreneur or maybe
one of our listeners is trying to break
generational trauma and they're the
first person to spot it and but then
they all live in that space like can I
do this like am I the one to do this and
so what was it that made that switch
from like I'm not sure I'm the guy but
oh it is my path it's the sum of all
things leading up into that point I
think it's all the doubt it's the
impostor syndrome it's the the blessings
that you can't really accept
fully and you listen to other people
speak who are successful or you see
examples that you kind of feel connected
to like man that that kind of feels like
me or what he just said or what she just
said I kind of I resonate with that you
know I feel like that sometimes you know
um other people who are looking at you
saying no Mike this is what you have
this is what you can be this is what you
are nah n that can't no that's that's
too good no that ain't me you know uh
your own presence in a situation where
you have to step back and look at
yourself and be like am I this guy right
now like oh man there's a room for the
people who showed up because of
something I'm doing and they're in
service or in support of my idea my
thing okay that looks and feels like I'm
the guy okay you're in I'm in the
industry where you know you're the
success of your work and your art has
been you know dictated and validated by
other people's opinions and whether
those opinions are factual or projected
on you uh from their
own uh individual
perspective I think it's it was it was a
combination of all those things
and I've always been curious and walked
towards the how do I make myself better
what are the things that I need the
tools that I need in order to improve
myself the way I think the way how do I
maximize myself you know so from I think
getting a you know an executive coach
you know um who talks to Executives all
day and and and you know how to create
healthy conversations the right type of
conversations to have as you're building
a team around around you cuz you know as
you know it's not just us you know we
have an entire team of people that
surround us that help us achieve our
dreams and and and get the big idea done
you know a spiritual advisor a spiritual
coach that I have um who you know helps
me uh do my energy work my spiritual
work and and and and help sift through
the noise and and and and find those
things and I think it wasn't until I had
you know roles that challenged my spirit
in myself in a real way that that that
that in the weight and and where the
attention was so loud that it was you
know was deafening and it it was and and
I couldn't you know um see clearly and
you know these champag problems you know
what I'm saying I you know you know that
like you know we're blessed so but the
weight is so heavy you know and people
sometimes think and they see what we
have or what you know are what we're you
know what we're doing and is like oh
just be grateful you know or just you
know what are you complaining about you
know and and you know most people
wouldn't be able to walk you know a
blocking our shoes you know with with
this stuff and I think it was and you
have moments where you you resent things
and you're angry at you know the
feelings that you accumulate for not
being clear or or not understanding you
know why why this there's a lot of wise
and you're not going to get all the
answers but you want to you know be able
to get to a place where you're you're
clear so to answer a question when did I
decide when did I like you know when did
I feel like that maybe two years ago
maybe a year ago you look at where your
family has come from and look at
your bloodline you know you look you
look at you know your community like man
there's a cycle there from generation to
generation that happens mhm when you get
to yourself you're like man
can I stop this can I change this I
could do
this once you it's like once you once
you know better you got to almost do
better once you see it you can't unsee
it and I I refuse to ignore it I refuse
to see it an opportunity that I had to
change things and act like it didn't
exist and I think that was the thing for
me that I was like nah I I got to I got
to if that's my purpose if that's my
path is to just see it and I can see the
piece and if I can just continue to do
this or if I stay down the pathway on
that and I I might be able to make a big
difference in my nephew's life or my my
my future children's my future
grandchildren's life I got to do that
because there's so been so many people
that might that didn't that that it
wasn't the perfect storm for them to
have that opportunity it
wasn't the right time in the world
technology wasn't there the resources
the right social conversations are being
had for for us to have these platforms
and speak and be successful the way we
are you know you you got to you got to
do it and and I I think that was a big
part of it you know um you know
understanding my own mortality you know
and and understanding you know that you
know life isn't you know isn't a forever
thing and I think that happens when you
get older too you know what I'm saying
like you know just turned 37 and it's
like wow I vividly remember you know 15
I vividly remember 21 I vividly remember
25 30 you know and I used to look at 35
37 like like ancient you know what I'm
saying and I'm like oh man we're here
and it's
like you got to do what you got to do
while you're here and make an impact you
got to fulfill your you got to fulfill
yourself whatever that may be you know
um and uh and I think so yeah so that
that moment for me where it was like
okay I can do this I can maybe a couple
years ago I think was like right as I
was stepping into directing Creed 3 mhm
and the weight of that and being the
captain of the ship the first time being
captain of the ship in a you know I've
made movies before you know I've I've
I've done that I know what that's like
but I've never ever been the director
you know the the captain of the ship and
I think that responsibility that
pressure that you know I'm not a dad you
know but being a everybody's looking to
you for the answer for the solve for the
leadership and I think that really
thrust me into uh um a mindset of of uh
of leadership that I never quite had the
opportunity to do before I I mean
there's so much in that it's a great I
like it I prefer it that way cuz I'm I'm
connecting all the dots as you're
speaking and there's a I mean there's so
many things I want to unpack with that
one of the things that really resonated
is this idea that you had to challenge
yourself you had to do something out of
your comfort zone in order to even
recognize that you could become that you
could be and that you could develop and
often we're waiting to become before we
take on the challenge but it's the
challenge that makes us become that
person and I think we resist even what
you said earlier about the opportunities
this idea that if you have opportun and
there's an Eastern spiritual teaching
which talks about if you have
opportunities and you don't take them
that's a disservice to humanity because
they're opening up to you without your
even without your will sometimes right
like there's some of us and we'll
sabotage ourselves because we'll say oh
well I didn't ask for that I I didn't I
didn't know that was for me and so I
love the idea of anyone who's listening
or watching what Mike's saying I love
the idea of Leaning into that
opportunity that is opening up for you
and even if you don't have the skills
and you don't have the talent yet or you
don't have all of the tools and the
abilities it's going to force you to
develop them for sure and and you
talking about the coaching I want to go
back to that and ask you about that
because you want to be better mentally
physically spiritually it's it's a big
part of who you are and even the
projects you take on which I want to
dive into that you said roles that
challenge your spirit even that idea
that you're looking at a role not as oh
what's the next movie to get me the
thing it's like oh that's going to
challenge my spirit I wanted to ask what
has been your best habit or tool
uniquely that you've developed for your
body your mind and your spirit
individually what have been things that
you've done with your coaches in
different areas that you think has
brought about new epiphanies
opportunities and ideas what have been
those tools and hacks that maybe people
could lock into as well uh I think
there's a this woman Ramona Oliver that
known me my entire life you know she's
my spiritual advisor and coach and and
you know I think starting the day you
know in meditation you know you're
taking a moment to clear yourself and
prepare yourself for the day um it's so
important to to to step out of your home
with intent and intention a lot of times
it's what are you projecting on a
situation to help it manifest instead of
negatively thinking about things that
can help block your blessings that's a
big thing you know so so I think I think
um and we all have moments of negativity
that's part of it you know it's ying and
yang you're never going to fully get rid
of that but to practice those things in
the morning I think was a big help for
me yeah huge um you know you're shooting
movies and you're doing things you're
walking out you know there's there's
there's you hear stories of people but
they just can't get a break sometimes
and and and for whatever reason it could
be from stepping off the curve twisting
the ankle to you know the parking ticket
to the thing to the oh I just can't get
a break and and there's certain people
that that carry this Cloud you know and
I think some of that can be contributed
to the the thought process and the
thinking and the energy that you're
putting into these things and and it's
sometimes easier set than done but but
to to stop and to reframe and to clear
yourself and to you know no I'm walking
in in this light today and see how much
of a difference that can make um and and
more on the structurally side this guy
Drew cougler who um no relation to Ryan
cougler who was uh you know um executive
coach and and and you know as my
ambitions Grew From production company
to Brand marketing Consulting companies
to you know just the products and the
businesses you know the conversations I
need to have with the team you know and
Leadership and the um everybody's coming
from different backgrounds and how do
you speak everybody's love language
because everybody you have to speak
differently a little bit to everybody so
they can receive it the way you meant it
you know and and I think having the the
quality of conversations is something
that was really helpful for me meaningful
meaningful
conversations um and giving people the
space to um hear me and also hold them
accountable to the things that I need to
hold them accountable for um I think
though the combination of the two uh
allowed me to look at situations and
opportunities differently for people to
look at me differently because it's also
a troubling thing when you're walking
around has talent for a long time that's
how they see you you know and you have
an identity have an identity that's how
that's what they're so there's this
there's these kid gloves that come along
with that you know what I'm saying that
is it's not everybody's fault that's
everybody's in a a role you have to
sometimes just step back and look at the
thing that we're in you know like we're
in an industry you know that has
generations and generations of taught
behavior and practices that that any
positive disruptor has to understand
those things in order to disrupt them in
a way absolutely and evolve them you
know and and things are evolving you see
it you know that things are evolving in
a way and if you can look at it in
a you know in a higher way I think you
can find your way through that yeah yeah
that resonates there's a you reminded me
of this beautiful statement from Mark
Twain where he said that history never
repeats itself but it always Rhymes and
I find like when you were talking about
the industry I was thinking about how if
you don't study history you'll have the
rhyme happening in your life but then
you can't interrupt the pattern so if
you were a young star what you were I
love the wire as well I've been a fan of
the show it's like so you start in this
industry early and then you could spend
years trying to figure out why you still
have the kid gloves on yeah because you
haven't studied that wait a minute
that's what happens that unless you
disrupt the pattern present yourself
differently show more of yourself people
are always going to say he's Talent he's
he's an actor that's that's what he does
as opposed to oh he's a director oh he's
an entrepreneur oh he's he's an investor
right I know you have lots of
Investments all again in the health and
wellness space like corre sports teams
and we're talking about moss as well so
it's it's interesting how much if you
don't study the history of our industry
we get locked in the identity of the
role we've played in that space correct
forever correct and and it's so easy for
us to get used to feeling and often we
do it to ourself because it's
comfortable playing the same role and
there's a familiar feeling of when I
play this role and I felt that in my own
small way like when I went from having
to create content to get my message out
there even though I wanted to do TV or
film or whatever and couldn't get a
break and so I went to content and then
I launched a podcast and I told you
about why we launched this podcast
earlier and then I wrote books and it
was like every time time it was like oh
like oh we thought Jay was this but oh
he's actually oh and and and I've had to
go through that and I've realized the
hardest part is you letting go of that
identity and Reinventing yourself and
allowing yourself right going yeah no no
definitely like I mean have you ever
like you know has the podcast been
something you've always wanted to do and
this is me just curious or is it
something that you had to re you forced
yourself to re to reinvent yourself in a
way because this isn't it for you yeah
you know what I'm saying I know it's not
you know that this is this is a stop for
you this is this is a chapter in your
book did you ever think I have to
reinvent myself or is that a product of
uh the things that were telling you no
or the things that was challenging yeah
it's a great question I think it's a mix
of them all but the thing that kind of
like supersedes all of them which I try
and tap into which I think you'll
resonate with because I think that's the
conversation we're having is
having a connection with your intuition
like for me it's I'm not looking at like
oh what's the next Trend or like how do
I disrupt myself how do because to me
those things are still following other
patterns gotta whereas it's intuitively
going like what is what is the thing
that I bring or what do I want to do or
what is the the the missing piece of the
puzzle that I believe I have a unique
qualification to fill gotta because if
I'm always looking around there will
always be a million things like I always
say to people if you go to a real estate
conference you'll realize you don't
invest enough in real estate you if you
go if you go to a crypto currency
conference you'll feel like oh crap I
didn't do this and if you like if I sit
with a group of actors I'll be like oh
man I should have start you're always
going to feel the deficiency of the
trend that you study correct and so if
you live that way around it gets really
complicated because then you're like
well do I do this or do or do that like
whereas when you when you go inward it's
like oh I feel alignment with this right
now because it lets me express myself it
lets me connect with people in a certain
way I feel I'm at the right evolution in
my Journey where it can manifest as
opposed to like oh let me just figure
out what the next big thing is which if
that makes so much sense bro and I think
that's what it is is like your alignment
with where you feel truthful yeah you
know and and sometimes that always
doesn't mean you're going to be
financially okay totally as well you
know you know you can feel ESP aligned
in everything and mortgage is due you
know rent is due you feel me so so
there's that element of it as well that
you have to find your your way through
yeah that that that intuition that that
North Star is what is something that has
led me all types of places uh that I
wouldn't trading for the world you know
just that feeling of this feels right
and I I know does it make
sense probably there's probably some
other things on paper that that seems
like the better option or choice but
this feels right and and you know more
often than that you know it's it's been
the right move yeah I loved what you
were saying earlier about how the
thought process is such a powerful way
of breaking out over the cloud over your
head and I think we all have moments
where the cloud feels like it's never
moving it's constantly raining on you
and I think a lot of people who are
listening may feel that way like have
you ever been in that place and and how
have you what has helped with your
thought process has you been tuning that
what worked for you at least that's your
moment that's your moment it's not that
All Is Lost when you're feeling the most
trapped and and down and nothing can't
go right I feel like those are the
moments that define you those are those
character Cannon moments that are like
what am I going to do now you know how
do you respond to that and thinking your
way feeling your way working your way
through those things on the other side
it's like you know I don't know who said
the say but like usually you know you're the
the
closest to getting what you want is
always the hardest it's always the
feeling when you're getting ready to you
know people give up right before they
get what they've always wanted to get
people quit and they give up and I will
not be the person who quit before I got
what I wanted or what I needed or what I
felt I was supposed to have you know
like and if that wasn't for me it wasn't
for me I'mma keep grinding I'mma keep
knocking on the door until I get what I
feel that's been something I've always
felt since having the name Michael
Jordan and understanding that there's
another guy out there named Michael
Jordan that was the best ever to do
something and being teased and picked on
about that and and and and and made me
for a moment not wanting to play sports
but then it was like nah I'm actually
going to make sure I'm compet I'm going
to compete at least I'm going to compete
you're going to at least see me I'm
going to be somebody that it's not going
to be oh his name is this it's going to
be oh no but he can play or oh no he can
oh he he he has something about him
something that is formidable that is
above average that is that is unique to
him and and I it gave me a healthy chip
you know so so and and for the people
who are listening who you know who do
have you know that doesn't feel like
they can change their circumstances with
the way they think or they feel just
hold on just endure endure you know uh
look at things differently challenge
yourself to look at things as the glass
half full challenge yourself to think
four steps ahead think your way through
it like now we have so many tools we
have so much information there's a lot
of misinformation out there but but
there's so much information to to be
curious find something that you that
does resonate with you even if it's not
in the world that you ever thought you
would be in find something that you
align with and cuz everybody aligns with
something that's not an excuse I'm going
I'm willing to take from anybody you
know align with something and find your
find your positivity find your intuition
within that thing and and and be
obsessed about it what have you been
obsessed with lately like what would you
say is the thing you're most obsessed
with right now or or that you have been
in the past couple of years that is kind
of just attracted and I've been obsessed
with getting my team right I've been
obsessed with getting the right person
now on the right brain frequency and
getting everybody on the same page to
to accomplish these things that we need
to go accomplish because I truly believe
it's going to be better for everyone I
think it's really going to make an
impact you know um and and so there's
there's a there's a obsessiveness that
about it you know strengthening my
family mhm I'm obsessed over it you know
uh to lead by example mhm you know and
break generational trauma and curses I'm
obsessed over it um and I'm obsessed
over every project that I uh lend myself
to so this next movie that me and Ryan's
doing I'm literally you know I'm growing
on my stuff out you know I mean my hair
and stuff out now I'm becoming obsessed
with it you know and that character and
it's it's a it's an addictive feeling to
have a thought and see it come to
fruition to create something out of out
of you know out of an from an idea yeah
um and to be persistent and to see it
and to manifest it you know um
manifestation I I just love it you know
what I mean it's it's cool so so that's
something that I've been I've been
really really um locked in with and I
think it's also something that is going
to help people you know there's there's
always a I don't want anything that's
not multi- hying MH I I want I want
anything that I'm involved in it it has
to have layers to it um you know how do
you help how do you educate what's to leave
leave
behind what blueprint am I leaving for
the Next Generation you know I got a
nephew now you know that is looking up
at me constantly yes because of height
but also because of the example
you know and he's mimicking everything I
do he mimicking anything I can say
something do something I can sit a
certain type of way oh snap he's doing
it too it's crazy so it clarifies your
intention when you do things because you
want it to have you know purpose and
intention you know um so th those are
the things and I'm obsessed with being
the best version of myself and that's a
daily thing you know um and some days
are better than others finding
my myself in a world
where there's so
many seen opinions about
yourself uh when everybody's telling you
who and what you are you know learning
how to live you know growing up in then
like and it's so wild I've been doing
this for 25 years straight you know and
that's a wild thing to think about man
more than half of my life has been my
ident was been through the work that
I've been doing and and growing up in
with you know social media what didn't
exist now it does at a point where I'm
old enough to understand what that can
do so I'm obsessed with finding myself
now uh after and and not having to prove
anything to anybody other than myself
and my family you know but really myself
and realizing that that is enough MH you
know what I'm saying saying like that
like giving your
best is enough and and sometimes we lose
track of that you know and and yeah so
for anybody out there you know you're
enough man absolutely let's let's toast
that let's toast that yeah yeah yeah
shake it up shake it up yeah man and
this is the pure so we have three
flavors right now the mango ginger the
pomegranate but this is the cheers ah
cheers my appreciate you bro I'm excited
oh that's good that's easy easy it's
easy and anybody that's had like fresh
seos in the past they might not they
might not had a good experience cuz they
either they like they they kind you know
tried to clean it and process it
themselves so smooth smooth yeah don't
taste like the ocean but it tastes a
little you know it's it's a little
heightened it's like it's refreshing
it's smooth and it's easy that's how I
feel about it it's like yeah I'm like
this is like and it's a great mixer you
know you know I don't know if you know
you we call them Moss tailes but like if
you want to do like mocktails moss tails
you know what I'm saying or if you want
to mix them like with drinks like with
with the spirits and stuff like that
it's a really good uh yeah man I just
this this is five years of of obsession
uh you know obviously when you know
Health scares all over the place people
you know not a lot of information on
what's really going on what can help
what canot help I was you know finishing
up a movie in Berlin um and you know
doing my own stunts not sleeping a lot
in a foreign place you know uh food was
really wasn't really my thing as much
and I was looking for something to kind
of just help me get through my shoot
days and um and I was just chug seamos
like I mean by the jar just to I mean I
I was it's got to be doing good I know
it's doing good you know just buy the
jar and and and then you know on the
flight home it was like it's got to be a
better way yeah so I started making
smoothies started you know Blended them
in and my sister was pregnant with my uh
my nephew lenx at the time so you know
at that point everybody was in their own
bubble you know you know you know wasn't
able to kind of visit many people so we
would just blend up smoothies drop them
off at the front door you know that was
my little care package that I would do I
would do I would do seos and I would do
like a you know a homemade little pasta
and that was my Act of service for my
family you know so so so that that labor
of love that that that kind of uh it
started from a place of just trying to
help my family just like you know stay
healthy during the pandemic and it
slowly evolved in something that I
wanted to get
you know uh make it accessible to
everyone yeah for people who don't know
the benefits of seos what are some of
the things and the properties it's that
cognitive brain you know it's that
Clarity uh your your your immune system
so being able to harvest them in a way
that that gets those nutrients inside of
this drink in your daily dose of moss is
something that I was really really
exciting me um about just like making a
beverage about it yeah the off tast is
great too there's no it's it's there you
know it makes you want to drink more of it
it
yeah and um and good man it's good man
it's good and and it's it's uh yeah I'm
proud of it I'm proud of it
congratulations now we know we got to go
to yours man what's up no we left to do
a we left to do a m now with junior
junior M yeah no but I love it cuz
Asanda we got Asanda in ours as well and
Jin sync so I mean you you you got all
the adaptogens in it so that's great
yeah yeah no it's been it's been a labor
of love for us too it's like me and my
wife always talked about it as our Co
baby it's like this what we were working
on cuz we were the same we've been
addicted to tea our whole lives and we
did a hot tea as well but we were like
you know for a lot of people their hot
drink is coffee and we're like well wait
a minute what if your soda could be
healthy for you and good for you and you
know how could we do it where it has you
know zero grams of sugar like how do you
still get it to taste great with no
sugar cuz Mo me and my wife are both off
of refined sugars and trying to be
healthy and all the rest of it and then
you realize that all the sodas you're
drinking are full of it so how do we
make it easy for people
understand these herbs and these
adaptogens and you know because a lot of
people we grew up with it we were lucky
in our culture in Indian culture you
grew up with a lot of these herbs and
spices in your daily food exactly and
but a lot of people don't have access to
that so it's like how do you make it
easy when people may not have in their
kitchen so yeah man I I'll send you some
to try later well no please do man I
said you got the agivey in there and
everything and I love this man I was
loving what you were saying about the
building of teams because and and
something you said was like how do you
keep everyone on like the fre same
frequency and like attract those people
and I went I went through a big thing
for that in a certain part of my work
around two years ago a lot of people
that are in my sphere today some of them
have been around since the beginning and
and some of them came on in the last two
years and it has been lifechanging yes
like absolutely lifechanging from an
energy standpoint from a spirit
standpoint and from a productivity
Effectiveness standpoint how have you
been trained or what do you how do you
sense Beyond like someone being able to
do the job obviously how have you been
able to learn how to sense or understand
whether someone's on that same brain
wave and as you said or brain energy as
you are and and has that same value set
that you have I think it's uh a lot of
conversations and and and sometimes
trial and error uh I think my in my
intuition and my gut is is the first you
know litness test is the first kind of
line of defense you know that I that I
have of like the energies vibe you know
what I'm saying like Okay that that that
that you feel on par how you know how
you answer a question what are the
things that you're saying you know um
are you speaking from ego are you
speaking about you know what what is the
what is the thing you know you you know
we're used to we meet so many people we
have to use Quick judgments and who gets
our time you know um who do you open up
to who do you not and I think when it
comes to building into a team uh
especially nowadays you're coming into
something that's that's well oiled yeah
you're coming into a machine already so
you have to fit not just with me but you
have to kind of fit with everybody you
know you you you have to know how to
communicate the things you need to know
how to communicate to you have to the
the ego is something that can get in a
lot of people's way when joining a team
and joining something that's already
really established and I think I think
um coming to a place of learning and
listening is really important and not
taking things personally um I I think I
think uh and then it's something to the
people that's already been in the team
to understand that there's going to be a
additions and there is a process of
there's a onboarding there's a welome
there's a thing that you have to to
bring people into the fold in a way to
get the best out of them so I think
there's been there's been those learning
things along the way that's really that
really helped me identify people who um
that fit and work well within the circle
you know um and and uh yeah I think
that's been my my kind of process thus
far uh and then yeah I always want to
create an environment where people want
to be yeah you know you're not here for
a check yeah you're here because you
believe in what we're doing and what we
want to do and I'm pretty transparent
about those things you know so so I
think I think just being extremely
transparent and and and forward with
those things and and and know that
there's nothing personal if this isn't
it you know like um I'm the best I'm the
I'm the guy that's always going to give
you a great recommendation you know what
I mean like I'm I I want people to win
you know at the end of the day I want
people to win and and seeing somebody in
their strengths you know and being like
okay I I can use that that this this
this would be helpful in this way um and
if that works out it works out and if
not then man I man I want to see you do
well yeah I love that yeah we I remember
years ago I was listening to Eric
Schmidt who was the CEO of Google for a
bit and he was talking about how they
were looking for smart creatives and I
love that that they had two words that
kind of summed up what they looked for
they they looked for people who were
smart creatives and for me it became
humble Champions I was like I want
humble winners I want I want the people
who can who want to win and have that
ambition but are able to put their ego
aside because then we're going to speed
up getting there because the thing that
slows you down from winning is ego like
the thing that stops you from passing
the ball is ego or you know bowing out
and saying it's your turn is ego and so
but but you still have to have that
champion mind ship because it isn't just
about oh yeah no no no you do it your
thing like and that was a big thing and
then the other thing that worked for me
was I was like I need to work with
people that I could go to breakfast
lunch or dinner with if we didn't work
together do I actually want to go to
breakfast lunch and dinner with this
person because I probably will be when
I'm traveling or on the road that means
I like spending time with them which
means I'm happy to coach them and I'm
happy to learn from them exactly whereas
if I don't want to and and initially I
was like that I used to just hire people
who are great at what they did we didn't
really have chemistry like we didn't we
didn't we couldn't hang out and that
wasn't because they were wrong it was
also because I wasn't aware gotta and
and then of course yeah the mission the
purpose is I mean that's core and
Central and because even for you I mean
you're spending time from your family
with you know your team becomes your
extended family they they absolutely
they are your family you're eating like
said breakfast lunch and dinner you know
like there's there's a part of you that
you know it has to feel like I'm getting
a little bit of my family here and if
it's not that you know it's really hard
for me you know obviously like you know
you have a bigger company and there's
employees and you're not going to be as
personal with everybody within the
company you know you're not having
breakfast lunch or dinner with everybody
but but there's a there's a there's a
feeling of you know I I don't mind on a
Sunday everybody at my house watching
the game spending time because that's
when not the N9 to5 time to be creative
or the nino5 time to do the job that's
the that's the extra mile that's the oh
I had this idea and I was just thinking
oh oh we're looking at something
together and this would be great though
the best ideas sometimes come from those
just hangout moments and those moments
where you're just spending time with
with uh with people that you work with
so yeah I think that yeah you're right
that's that's really important yeah for
sure when before the obsession point
that came up which which was fascinating
I'm glad I asked you that and you went
you went into it you're talking about
like you know you you live in an
industry and you talked about social
media where people have an opinion of
you people people even an opinion it's
like people have a lens because they've
seen you in a particular light and I was
wondering like what do you think
something that people get right about
you and what's something that people
sometimes get wrong about you like what
what do you feel like when it comes to
that like I'll tell you mine like I feel
like for me a lot of people think that I
get like often because of what I teach
and what I'm sharing and what I'm
guiding it's like oh well Jay must get
everything perfect all the time and like
you know he's like super deep and like
always just saying profound things and
and that's not true obviously because as
much as that is who I am and that is my
heart I'm not always like that like I
have I have bad days I have bad moods I
have off days I have I have days when
I'm not feeling that way right and so
that's that's something that people get
wrong about me sometimes in in that
perception because but dedicated to this
work I'm obsessed with it I'm obsessed
with being better but that doesn't
remove me from having flaws and
weaknesses and and so yeah you should do
a blooper
reel you should do a blooper outtake
reel of those moments you have your team
catch you in these little moments and
you should put one out that'll be fun
that would be fun that would be fun I
think on it yeah I like that I like that
that would be a good one I like that I
think for me is like I think I've
intentionally stayed out the way so much
where I'm not giving anybody any
anything to go off of other than what I
want you to know you know I think I
think that's been it for a long time
I've always had the approach of like not
speaking on things and not giving them
life you know there's there's there's
going to be perspectives and there's
things about you that just aren't true
uh do you do you care to correct
somebody or not you know because most of
the time people's minds are made up no
matter what you say it is what it's
going to be you know stay out the
comment section you know what I mean you
some great entertainment in there but
then you can get a lot of stuff that is
just people who want to
project the thing that's going to get
the most attention and the issue that I
have with a lot of that is they can be
completely false and we have a a
industry of we were talking earlier the
lack of Journalism and the skill of that
that will run with those things knowing
that there is no basis to them but now
that's a narrative that's attached to
you that you have to be strong enough
and strong minded enough to ignore
knowing it's not true or this human
nature feeling of wanting to no that's
not true I want people to know this
about me and I've always walked on that line
line
of you know not
caring trying not to care and knowing
that I'm enough and and knowing my truth
and the people who know me know me you
know I am about my community and my
people you know
wholeheartedly and a lot of the choices
that I make and the things that I want
to do and be a part of is in service of
that bigger picture you know of of
helping that you know my community in a
in a big way um so I think the biggest
thing sometimes if if they ever feel
like that they're not my top priority is
maybe one of the biggest
misconceptions um you know the the love
I have for my community regardless of
people's approach I think everybody has
a different strategy and approach to how
they affect and make change everybody it
doesn't all look the same um and because
it may not be typical or the average
voice because the package is different
and the craft and my field is different
so I have a different set of boundaries
that exist in my Lane that I maneuver
without in and out of MH like I love
playing chess I love I love I love
strategy I love I love rever reverse
engineering and Building Things So I I
think I think that's one of the the
biggest things and you
know sometimes ignorance and a laugh or
a joke or a like or a thing we've we've
uh encouraged the
behavior of negativity and things and
loudness is all is the thing and and and
that's just not what that's not what I'm
into yeah I'm into the love of things
I'm into the the humanity and bringing
people together the best way and but
also I'm human yeah no I I appreciate
that I mean I I also think we've put a
false pressure on the definition of
authenticity meaning you share
everything with everyone and I'm not
sure I Vibe with that definition
because I think authenticity by nature
is you sharing what you feel comfortable
with each person like that's what it
means to be authentic and you could
argue that authentic just means being
however you want to be in any given
situation and so I think there has
become a false pressure of oh you got to
show your authentic by showing every
part of yourself and I don't know if
that that triggers anything for you is
like what's the definition of
authenticity for you or for me that's
what it is but what is it for you I
think it's um but then in hindsight
there's a there's a piece of it that not
even just to go back but there's there's
also like maybe that's
my insecurity framing
what the loudness of the things that I'm
most sensitive of is is this noise
somehow yeah it triggers us for a reason
it you know I'm saying there's some
stuff that you just go oh yeah I care
yeah whatever but it's like some that's
just like man like why why does that
bother me so much y like there's
something there's something about that
that because I know what that does in
the bigger like I'm always thinking
bigger picture it's very rarely that I
really focus on the thing it's always
about what's the cause of that in a
bigger conversation you know um the the
authenticity to
me is being able to sleep at night being
able to go talk to my mom and and
knowing that the the people that know me
every fiber of my being every my
intention knows my heart through and
through that they see the same person
they're able to connect with the same
energy and the same Vibe and The Same
Spirit my energy has never changed you
know I think being authentic to that
frequency is super important to me no
matter where I go no matter how I evolve
um and have to mature and grow up I want
my energy to always feel the same that's
why you meet certain people and it's
been years that go by and you pick right
back up where you left off it feels like
no time is lost that energy is never
it's always the same and I I love when
people I haven't seen in a long time or
come at me like man whoa it feel you
know it's the same and and that that
just lets me know that I'm not losing
myself I'm not losing track of you know
who I am yes and where I come from and I
I am always going to be an Agent of
Change trojan horse or not you know what
I'm saying and and yeah you just and
continue to lead by example you know I I
know I know um the path that I'm on
isn't easy you know sometimes it may
look easy you know uh for the successes
or whatever but but it's uh behind
closed doors I'm doing I'm doing the the
the work so the future Generations have
it a little bit easier or have a little
bit more tools to use um and they can
ask for certain things that won't be
like what if it be almost standard form
you know and you know from my vantage
point I'm able to see a lot of the RO
blocks that exist within systems you
know and and paperwork and precedents
I've been chipping away at those where I
can in places and there's so many look I
say I a lot in this interview there's so
many people out there are doing that
type of work you know that exists men
and women women in these places that are
breaking down doyers that are chipping
away say sha Shank Redemption you know
grab rock at a time gravel at a time you
know eventually that hole is going to be
open you know what I'm saying eventually
it's going to be open but just chipping away
away
and unfortunately everybody can't be the
loudest one in the room you know got to
be sometimes you got to be the quiet guy
in the room you gotta listen and and
look and pay attention and and and move
how you need to move uh the chess pieces
they have different rules and different
movements for a reason you know and
they're on the board in different places
for a reason and and uh I know my place
on the board and I think that's that's
what it comes down to right it's like I
appreciate you bringing out that point
around how things that trigger us give
us somewhere to focus on in our within
ourselves like I feel like that too like
I'm like there's certain things that
just don't phase me at
and I look like the most detached guy
and like you know I'm bulletproof and
there something that gets through that
vest it's just like and and you know
it's because there's a part of it that
feels true and and there's a part of you
that you've allowed for it to feel true
because it could be that you are there's
there's a part of your self-esteem you
haven't worked on there's there's
something you took from your childhood
and made true for you and now when
someone else says it and you didn't even
know where it came from but you know I
was talking to a friend the other day
and we were talking about how one of his
mentors was letting him down and we
discovered in that I've been friends
with this guy for like 20 years we're
best mates and it was like 20 years
later we figured out that he'd made his
mentor his father figure okay and he
didn't really put two and two together
until just now and neither did I for him
and he was like wait a minute no wonder
I'm feeling so much pain with this
mentor of mine because I'd made him a
father figure and gone through that
feeling of he's Superman and now
realizing he's not even though I'm aye
old and so it's just so interesting how
the that gets under ourin yeah it can
just be hidden there and it gets stale
and stuck and and then you don't look at
it because you're like oh no no it's
nothing it's nothing but at one point
when you feel safe enough you have to
kind of like look under the hood and go
you know why is that there but coming on
to the point you were just making around
Paving the way for others and setting an
example and the responsibility that
comes with and like you said there's so
many people doing that I feel like how
would you define your current purpose
like how do you define with everything
you're doing because you talked about
purpose being a big thing for you and
you talk about the mission of your
company like what is the purpose of that
work who which doors are you trying to
open which paperwork are you trying to
shift what systems are you trying to
affect I think I have my purpose right
now yeah that's what I mean yeah know I
I think I have a a chapter 25 years
acting um you know producing you know
being in front of the camera being
Talent learning so much about the world
about myself about the industry you know
I think being a a representative as a
for my community in a in a way that
places that a black actor hasn't gone
you know um obviously you have the
greats you have the wills and the Denzel
you know what I'm saying that that I
look up to in a big way that you know
that that through their talent the the
the business and the craft has extended
to a new height mhm so they've opened up
doors for me that I didn't even know was
possible that now was like oh wow now we
have this and that now I could do that
and do that so they've kicked the door
down in a way that's like you know internally
internally
grateful so like leading by example is
is a big purpose you know to for people
to be able to see it because it was big
for me to see it and think that I can do
it too so there that there that part of
yeah there's the um the business side of
things that I've got an opportunity to learn
learn
from investing your money you know what
do you do with the the savings and the
things that you do have mhm big Sports
guy you know I've always wanted to you
know own a team I'm competitive I wanted
to be involved in that in that in that
environment that energy you know of
sports and found a football team you
know in Bournemouth a great
great
football I've literally had to like you
know bite my I cannot say soccer anymore
say football say football yeah uh and
and um great great partner and you know
Bill fool and he owns the Las Vegas golden kns and and really trying to turn
golden kns and and really trying to turn that program around and just just
that program around and just just amplify it in a big way but learning you
amplify it in a big way but learning you know how to invest in those things you
know how to invest in those things you know uh oh there's going to be a new
know uh oh there's going to be a new stadium oh there's opportunity to invest
stadium oh there's opportunity to invest in real estate oh wow now you're
in real estate oh wow now you're investing in real estate and something
investing in real estate and something that's going to be around for you know
that's going to be around for you know however many year lease and this and
however many year lease and this and that okay cool I take that and oh wow uh
that okay cool I take that and oh wow uh investing in you know started a uh a JV
investing in you know started a uh a JV for you know um underneath an umbrella
for you know um underneath an umbrella company to have your own product and
company to have your own product and then from there you can create another
then from there you can create another JV oh you can invest Capital oh you can
JV oh you can invest Capital oh you can have a venture F oh oh snap okay wow
have a venture F oh oh snap okay wow this is a whole other game this is a
this is a whole other game this is a whole other Nuance of uh Acquisitions
whole other Nuance of uh Acquisitions and investment and capital that I never
and investment and capital that I never even knew exist I'm I'm used to you know
even knew exist I'm I'm used to you know W9 forums and taxes you know like you
W9 forums and taxes you know like you know what I'm saying on that you know on
know what I'm saying on that you know on on on the talent side there's a whole
on on the talent side there's a whole other game to be played um and and
other game to be played um and and taking that information just the
taking that information just the information that that exists and what
information that that exists and what that would do to you know to to the Next
that would do to you know to to the Next Generation you know knowing what's
Generation you know knowing what's available to him knowing that there's
available to him knowing that there's other ways to maximize my my my brand
other ways to maximize my my my brand you know your brand um creating things
you know your brand um creating things ownership of things um as streamers and
ownership of things um as streamers and Studios and there's there's so many
Studios and there's there's so many other platforms that are you know people
other platforms that are you know people are content crazy you know podcasts you
are content crazy you know podcasts you know it's become a business as well you
know it's become a business as well you know new you know a new Venture that
know new you know a new Venture that that people are be able to monetize
that people are be able to monetize their own their own following their own
their own their own following their own their own likeness in a realway
their own likeness in a realway retirement what does that look like
retirement what does that look like really you know do you know really a
really you know do you know really a will what leaving a will behind like
will what leaving a will behind like what like I mean know I mean there's
what like I mean know I mean there's things that you just don't get taught
things that you just don't get taught you know there's nobody you know so so
you know there's nobody you know so so I've stumbled on it upon it these things
I've stumbled on it upon it these things within my success and my intuition and
within my success and my intuition and my Partnerships and my relationships
my Partnerships and my relationships that but again it goes back to like the
that but again it goes back to like the why me this one guy you know that has
why me this one guy you know that has got has gotten access to all these
got has gotten access to all these things and my man over here my guy over
things and my man over here my guy over there nope they you guys would never
there nope they you guys would never know about none of these things because
know about none of these things because of how whatever your Life Path has taken
of how whatever your Life Path has taken you has not been in these areas or
you has not been in these areas or nobody's had the opportunity to say
nobody's had the opportunity to say those things to you so I put that on me
those things to you so I put that on me as a purpose to be able to to give that
as a purpose to be able to to give that information you know in a real way and
information you know in a real way and identify the you know people that are
identify the you know people that are hungry enough and you know that want it
hungry enough and you know that want it you know that want it they got to want
you know that want it they got to want it and they gota be a then come on let's
it and they gota be a then come on let's go figure it out all right let me let me
go figure it out all right let me let me let me figure out how to help set you up
let me figure out how to help set you up with the right people so you got the
with the right people so you got the right conversations you know and then
right conversations you know and then you also got to be careful who you help
you also got to be careful who you help too you know you can't you know you want
too you know you can't you know you want to help everybody but you can't help
to help everybody but you can't help everybody um but you can leave a
everybody um but you can leave a blueprint for everyone you know
blueprint for everyone you know sometimes that's all a person should
sometimes that's all a person should need sometimes is seeing it and and
need sometimes is seeing it and and being and in in the thought then you got
being and in in the thought then you got to leave it on the person to do their
to leave it on the person to do their their part of the work to lift that part
their part of the work to lift that part of the weight to put on that burden to
of the weight to put on that burden to go do that for themselves their family
go do that for themselves their family their their their their people within
their their their their people within their their Circle and stuff yeah for
their their Circle and stuff yeah for sure I like that man that's I mean it's
sure I like that man that's I mean it's super powerful because I think yeah so
super powerful because I think yeah so many people don't have access don't
many people don't have access don't understand don't have the language
understand don't have the language anguage don't have the vocabulary and
anguage don't have the vocabulary and it's a it's a huge purpose what do you
it's a it's a huge purpose what do you do when it all just gets too much when
do when it all just gets too much when you're like it's a lot it's a lot you
you're like it's a lot it's a lot you know you're shoot days you're busy you
know you're shoot days you're busy you go this kind like what do you do when it
go this kind like what do you do when it all gets too much what's the first thing
all gets too much what's the first thing I try to go to Japan I I try to get on
I try to go to Japan I I try to get on the first thing smoking into Japan I'm
the first thing smoking into Japan I'm out of here uh it's one of the few
out of here uh it's one of the few places that I've been that I I feel like
places that I've been that I I feel like I just exist yeah you know what I'm why
I just exist yeah you know what I'm why Japan I been growing up I've been
Japan I been growing up I've been obsessed with anime I'm a big anime guy
obsessed with anime I'm a big anime guy you know so since I was like you know 11
you know so since I was like you know 11 12 years old it's been anime you know
12 years old it's been anime you know and that's been my cartoons comic books
and that's been my cartoons comic books anim I mean that's just like my you know
anim I mean that's just like my you know uh escapism I'm in that and you know
uh escapism I'm in that and you know growing up watching those shows you they
growing up watching those shows you they there's so much of their identity in
there's so much of their identity in their culture in the dialogue and the
their culture in the dialogue and the messaging and all that stuff so I just
messaging and all that stuff so I just had this idea this place in my head
had this idea this place in my head that was full of respect and it was
that was full of respect and it was hospitable and uh hard work and
hospitable and uh hard work and tradition
tradition and you know I mean thousands of years
and you know I mean thousands of years of you know a couple thousand years of
of you know a couple thousand years of tradition you know what I'm saying that
tradition you know what I'm saying that you know that that
you know that that exists and and I was like man I wonder
exists and and I was like man I wonder what this place going to live up to the
what this place going to live up to the expectation obviously the food and the
expectation obviously the food and the culture all that good stuff and uh yeah
culture all that good stuff and uh yeah when I went it it was it was everything
when I went it it was it was everything that I thought it would be and more you
that I thought it would be and more you know um and obviously I went went the
know um and obviously I went went the right type of way I you know I created
right type of way I you know I created anime as well you know I wanted to like
anime as well you know I wanted to like you know because they're they're they're
you know because they're they're they're so loving and and and um welcoming in a
so loving and and and um welcoming in a really big way and yeah for me going
really big way and yeah for me going there there's not a you know a million
there there's not a you know a million phones being out everybody they're very
phones being out everybody they're very respectful of your space they um and
respectful of your space they um and people are going to obviously come up
people are going to obviously come up and say what's up you know that's what's
and say what's up you know that's what's going to happen but it's it's in a way
going to happen but it's it's in a way where you don't feel like I have to hide
where you don't feel like I have to hide as much I feel like I could walk down
as much I feel like I could walk down the streets there a little bit more
the streets there a little bit more Loosely and that's something that you
Loosely and that's something that you know I don't really have as much here in
know I don't really have as much here in LA or you know New York you get a little
LA or you know New York you get a little bit more of it you know what I'm saying
bit more of it you know what I'm saying kind of like you know people in
kind of like you know people in sometimes like whatever keep pushing but
sometimes like whatever keep pushing but it's it's it's a it's a different thing
it's it's it's a it's a different thing but something about Japan that was
but something about Japan that was awesome and you know um and another
awesome and you know um and another place that I can't wait to really go is
place that I can't wait to really go is Ghana as well Dad's been spending a lot
Ghana as well Dad's been spending a lot of time there wow I haven't like for my
of time there wow I haven't like for my SK for whatever reason every time that
SK for whatever reason every time that I'm trying to go something that I cannot
I'm trying to go something that I cannot change pops up but but that's a place
change pops up but but that's a place that people tell me stories of the
that people tell me stories of the similar feeling of going there in the
similar feeling of going there in the love and Infinity of being in in that
love and Infinity of being in in that place and really want to go there as
place and really want to go there as well so so that that's that so if I
well so so that that's that so if I can't get to Japan I'm usually at the
can't get to Japan I'm usually at the house I'm either cooking or playing like
house I'm either cooking or playing like Call of Duty I'm I'm I'm playing Call of
Call of Duty I'm I'm I'm playing Call of Duty online you know what I'm saying uh
Duty online you know what I'm saying uh with my boys back back you know from
with my boys back back you know from from all over and uh and and you know
from all over and uh and and you know it's a place where you can you know it's
it's a place where you can you know it's fair game you know it's even playing
fair game you know it's even playing field you know what I'm saying you know
field you know what I'm saying you know some mindless you know kind of you know
some mindless you know kind of you know you know camaraderie with your boys and
you know camaraderie with your boys and stuff you know it's I love cooking food
stuff you know it's I love cooking food is a love language for me you know so so
is a love language for me you know so so being able to you know find a recipe or
being able to you know find a recipe or try something new and combine flavors
try something new and combine flavors probably you never thought would go
probably you never thought would go together and just creating those those
together and just creating those those moments is another form of art too um
moments is another form of art too um and and and I like PE enjoying people
and and and I like PE enjoying people eating my food you know like like
eating my food you know like like serving people and being like you know I
serving people and being like you know I normally don't like land but have you
normally don't like land but have you had it like
had it like this and then uh and it's having people
this and then uh and it's having people just you know react to that is is a is a
just you know react to that is is a is a um is something that I enjoy doing too
um is something that I enjoy doing too with Bournemouth we're going to have to
with Bournemouth we're going to have to get you into FIFA as wellif yeah I I got
get you into FIFA as wellif yeah I I got to get on that's the next one that's
to get on that's the next one that's what I do that's my that's my guilty
what I do that's my that's my guilty pleasure some easy wins at first so we
pleasure some easy wins at first so we we'll start off I'll be B you'll be B
we'll start off I'll be B you'll be B okay all right cool got it yeah you Pi
okay all right cool got it yeah you Pi you Pi yeah it'll be good dude I you've
you Pi yeah it'll be good dude I you've been amazing today I've got a few more
been amazing today I've got a few more questions want to ask you before I let
questions want to ask you before I let you go that this question is like what
you go that this question is like what has been a lesson you wish you learned
has been a lesson you wish you learned earlier in life like is there a lesson
earlier in life like is there a lesson that you learned recently that you're
that you learned recently that you're like I wish I learned this one ear
like I wish I learned this one ear I
I think being
think being unapologetically honest with what you
unapologetically honest with what you want and that and that goes across the
want and that and that goes across the board I was trying to think of something
board I was trying to think of something that kind of across the board if you can
that kind of across the board if you can communicate your
communicate your truth and and and not worry so much
truth and and and not worry so much about how somebody's going to react to
about how somebody's going to react to what you say cuz a lot of times the fear
what you say cuz a lot of times the fear of how somebody's going to react to what
of how somebody's going to react to what you you really want to say is what stops
you you really want to say is what stops you from saying it sometimes and you
you from saying it sometimes and you find another way or you put it off or
find another way or you put it off or you don't say it and maybe the situation
you don't say it and maybe the situation doesn't change and and you you get
doesn't change and and you you get frustrated and upset why this thing
frustrated and upset why this thing doesn't change because you kind of maybe
doesn't change because you kind of maybe might not have said it the way you
might not have said it the way you wanted to say you know and I think
wanted to say you know and I think there's a you know a way to be
there's a you know a way to be unapologetically and still be respectful
unapologetically and still be respectful and speak your truth if I think I would
and speak your truth if I think I would have done that earlier what said I I
have done that earlier what said I I would have been further along in
would have been further along in relationships that I have with people I
relationships that I have with people I care about and and and not intimately I
care about and and and not intimately I mean I mean I mean ac across the board
mean I mean I mean ac across the board Rel uh work relationships business
Rel uh work relationships business family female friends you know whatever
family female friends you know whatever it may have been I think being honest
it may have been I think being honest with with with where you stand and how
with with with where you stand and how you feel it's really giving another
you feel it's really giving another person an option and opportunity to be
person an option and opportunity to be as honest with youh and whatever your
as honest with youh and whatever your fear of that is of that outcome is never
fear of that is of that outcome is never really as big as what you make it up to
really as big as what you make it up to be you know it's really not that so I
be you know it's really not that so I would say I would say maybe just being
would say I would say maybe just being being being honest and um and living
being being honest and um and living with the results you know and and
with the results you know and and tomorrow is not promised to anyone but
tomorrow is not promised to anyone but time will move on you know you will move
time will move on you know you will move past it you know um and if tomorrow
past it you know um and if tomorrow never come at least you can know that
never come at least you can know that you said what you needed to say yeah you
you said what you needed to say yeah you know so I think that's one thing that I
know so I think that's one thing that I feel like like earlier on if I could if
feel like like earlier on if I could if I if I had that might have been better
I if I had that might have been better yeah that's a thoughtful answer I was
yeah that's a thoughtful answer I was thinking when you were saying that it's
thinking when you were saying that it's like we we're so scared of our honesty
like we we're so scared of our honesty hurting someone not re realizing that us
hurting someone not re realizing that us holding back our honesty is hurting them
holding back our honesty is hurting them even more and longer term it is it's a
even more and longer term it is it's a hard it's a hard one because when you
hard it's a hard one because when you have to be honest it makes you look
have to be honest it makes you look worse it makes you feel bad it makes
worse it makes you feel bad it makes that person feel bad it gets it gets
that person feel bad it gets it gets messy on so many levels but what if that
messy on so many levels but what if that person needed to hear it yeah you know
person needed to hear it yeah you know what if that person never heard that
what if that person never heard that that note or that that thought or
that note or that that thought or perspective and then they go on in life
perspective and then they go on in life you know continuing to you know move and
you know continuing to you know move and act and speak in a way without that
act and speak in a way without that you're doing almost a disservice you
you're doing almost a disservice you know it goes back to like knowing if you
know it goes back to like knowing if you know better you got to do better right
know better you got to do better right like so so I think that kind of maybe
like so so I think that kind of maybe speaks to like a bigger thing with me of
speaks to like a bigger thing with me of like wanting to just be better and
like wanting to just be better and wanting people around me to be better
wanting people around me to be better and grow you know because I guess one
and grow you know because I guess one going back to you know just the other
going back to you know just the other misconceptions is like you know thing of
misconceptions is like you know thing of people look at me and think I got
people look at me and think I got everything I got it all you know it's
everything I got it all you know it's not true man like I'm flawed you know
not true man like I'm flawed you know and I'm and I'm actively trying to get
and I'm and I'm actively trying to get better daily you know and I fail all the
better daily you know and I fail all the time and I come up short all the time on
time and I come up short all the time on even how to communicate no matter how
even how to communicate no matter how much coaching I go through and you know
much coaching I go through and you know and practice and and and and and running
and practice and and and and and running conversations through my head you know
conversations through my head you know in the shower and like all right I'm
in the shower and like all right I'm going to say this I'm going say that I
going to say this I'm going say that I want to hit that point okay you know
want to hit that point okay you know what I'm saying and you know I'm just in
what I'm saying and you know I'm just in the I'm I'm trying to do my best you
the I'm I'm trying to do my best you know and and I think the weight to try
know and and I think the weight to try to live up to everybody's perfect
to live up to everybody's perfect expectation of me has been really really
expectation of me has been really really heavy for a long time you know and I
heavy for a long time you know and I think the last couple years I've been
think the last couple years I've been trying to maneuver out of that uh Mike
trying to maneuver out of that uh Mike we end every episode of on purpose with
we end every episode of on purpose with a final five okay these five questions
a final five okay these five questions have to be answered in one word to one
have to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum so it can be one
sentence maximum so it can be one sentence I will ask you to explore it
sentence I will ask you to explore it further if if there's something that
further if if there's something that hits me all right so Mike these are your
hits me all right so Mike these are your final five the first question is the
final five the first question is the first qu your ones have two parts I've
first qu your ones have two parts I've never done this before but with you I'm
never done this before but with you I'm about to do it because I think there's
about to do it because I think there's some things I really want to know so the
some things I really want to know so the first question is what is the best
first question is what is the best advice you've ever heard and the worst
advice you've ever heard and the worst advice you've ever heard best advice is
advice you've ever heard best advice is uh if you're unsure about something take
uh if you're unsure about something take a moment you know if you're unsure uh
a moment you know if you're unsure uh don't don't don't answer right away take
don't don't don't answer right away take a moment think about it it's okay M you
a moment think about it it's okay M you know don't answer just because you feel
know don't answer just because you feel like you got to be out and be quick and
like you got to be out and be quick and be fast about it you know uh because you
be fast about it you know uh because you end up stumbling over your words and and
end up stumbling over your words and and and and or or not something every words
and and or or not something every words saying something that you don't really
saying something that you don't really really mean so I would say that's
really mean so I would say that's probably some of the best advice I got
probably some of the best advice I got worst
worst advice buy it now you'll get it
advice buy it now you'll get it back just what just spend it now you
back just what just spend it now you you'll make it back you know what I'm
you'll make it back you know what I'm saying I think I I think that'sa I think
saying I think I I think that'sa I think that's probably some of the worst price
that's probably some of the worst price I've got that's B man yeah youy
I've got that's B man yeah youy I think at the time it was closed yeah
I think at the time it was closed yeah at the time it was closed it was closed
at the time it was closed it was closed it was it was it was uh and I wasn't
it was it was it was uh and I wasn't even really a big Clos guys at the time
even really a big Clos guys at the time I was like ah whatever but it was like
I was like ah whatever but it was like yeah you're right you I'll make it back
yeah you're right you I'll make it back don't worry about it yeah it's cool yeah
don't worry about it yeah it's cool yeah of course I will you know like yeah and
of course I will you know like yeah and and then you know we're on 7-Eleven Diet
and then you know we're on 7-Eleven Diet for the next you know two
for the next you know two months I love it good answers good
months I love it good answers good answers all right I'm going to give you
answers all right I'm going to give you a choice yeah get a pick pick one of
a choice yeah get a pick pick one of these you
these you choose whichever one yeah yeah all right
choose whichever one yeah yeah all right take look oh
man I want to know what the other one is I'll let you talk about this one first
I'll let you talk about this one first this one this is um how
this one this is um how old dog it's my dad's dog tag from the
old dog it's my dad's dog tag from the Marines that linen jacket
Marines that linen jacket says All My
says All My Children I'm saying maybe
Children I'm saying maybe s 16 17 maybe like Disney like super
s 16 17 maybe like Disney like super soap weekend or something like that I
soap weekend or something like that I think it was like one of those things
think it was like one of those things where like the soap opers had this this
where like the soap opers had this this weekend in in at uh I think it was in C
weekend in in at uh I think it was in C California yeah yeah yeah Disney and um
California yeah yeah yeah Disney and um I want to say this is from that is
that what advice would you what advice would you give to
would you give to him uh Savor those moments of being a
him uh Savor those moments of being a teenager I think you know looking back
teenager I think you know looking back at the teenage years you
at the teenage years you know we a have a worry we we what
know we a have a worry we we what problems we have you know it was high
problems we have you know it was high school you complaining about homework
school you complaining about homework you know what I'm saying like it you
you know what I'm saying like it you know I was I was working at that time
know I was I was working at that time you know what I'm saying so but but I
you know what I'm saying so but but I would just say like enjoy those years
would just say like enjoy those years man you know of just of just uh of the
man you know of just of just uh of the the purity of it you know I look back
the purity of it you know I look back and I was like man this is like a this
and I was like man this is like a this is a pretty pure is innocent kid yeah
is a pretty pure is innocent kid yeah what would he say back to you now
what would he say back to you now looking at you now maybe I knew you
looking at you now maybe I knew you could do
could do it you know I I think I would tell
it you know I I think I would tell myself that you could do it too yeah I I
myself that you could do it too yeah I I I think I think you know nobody thought
I think I think you know nobody thought I I mean I didn't at that time you know
I I mean I didn't at that time you know I think you know what what what could
I think you know what what what could have been what what is he had a you know
have been what what is he had a you know thought I had an idea of what could be
thought I had an idea of what could be you know I had I always had to the
you know I had I always had to the optimism of what could be you know it
optimism of what could be you know it just like it follow that more maybe I
just like it follow that more maybe I love that man this is the other
love that man this is the other one a this is
one a this is dope we got plenty we just picked these
dope we got plenty we just picked these two these were the two that the team
two these were the two that the team left I don't know if this is my birthday
left I don't know if this is my birthday or my sister's birthday but this is my
or my sister's birthday but this is my grandmother's kitchen and uh my sister
grandmother's kitchen and uh my sister was right there and I think she was
was right there and I think she was either helping me cut a cake or
either helping me cut a cake or something but yeah that's my that's my
something but yeah that's my that's my my my was that was my my my guardian and
my my was that was my my my guardian and that was my my My Bodyguard was my
that was my my My Bodyguard was my sister it's a good one I love it I love
sister it's a good one I love it I love it man um all right question number I
it man um all right question number I don't know which question we want I
don't know which question we want I totally ignored my own format but it's
totally ignored my own format but it's all right that's the best that's that's
all right that's the best that's that's when it's the best um what's what's the
when it's the best um what's what's the best part of being Michael B Jordan and
best part of being Michael B Jordan and the worst part part of being Michael B
the worst part part of being Michael B Jordan being Uncle
Jordan being Uncle Mike man it's a feeling of like with my
Mike man it's a feeling of like with my nephew and my niece that I've never had
nephew and my niece that I've never had I've never loved something so much is
I've never loved something so much is like wow like whoa like I think I think
like wow like whoa like I think I think being Uncle Mike right now is is is the
being Uncle Mike right now is is is the best part of that right now um worst
best part of that right now um worst part I love multitasking I love I love I
part I love multitasking I love I love I love uh the juggling the The Balancing
love uh the juggling the The Balancing Act of the things that I do I love that
Act of the things that I do I love that and the worst part is the the loneliness
and the worst part is the the loneliness that comes with that you know I think
that comes with that you know I think there's a there's a there's a you know a
there's a there's a there's a you know a loneliness that I have you know the the
loneliness that I have you know the the responsibility that you have and is is
responsibility that you have and is is is isolating and the weight is isolating
is isolating and the weight is isolating so I think I think the the worst part of
so I think I think the the worst part of that is is is the the feeling like
that is is is the the feeling like nobody really understands and and
nobody really understands and and sometimes falling into the spaces of
sometimes falling into the spaces of like just you know being alone feeling
like just you know being alone feeling alone thanks for sharing everything
alone thanks for sharing everything today I mean okay question number four
today I mean okay question number four we're nearly that four and five question
we're nearly that four and five question number four uh you talked about knowing
number four uh you talked about knowing your team's love language this question
your team's love language this question is my team's love language okay okay how
is my team's love language okay okay how does being the sexiest man in life find
does being the sexiest man in life find love from the girls of my team dedicated
love from the girls of my team dedicated to dedicated to you so I revert back to
to dedicated to you so I revert back to the last question it's very it's very
the last question it's very it's very lonely no it's uh I go back and forth
lonely no it's uh I go back and forth between
between wanting
wanting partnership and then not
partnership and then not knowing what's the best partner for me
knowing what's the best partner for me like bringing them into my world
like bringing them into my world what I got going on isn't easy and it's
what I got going on isn't easy and it's it's not just I love you you love me
it's not just I love you you love me that should be enough right it's not
that should be enough right it's not it's not quite that simple you know I
it's not quite that simple you know I think I think finding the right person
think I think finding the right person to understand a all of me but then all
to understand a all of me but then all that comes with me as well and
that comes with me as well and understanding you know that balance
understanding you know that balance between wanting to be available and
between wanting to be available and there for for that person while I'm
there for for that person while I'm juggling everything else and feeling
juggling everything else and feeling okay to put the other part of my
okay to put the other part of my businesses down and you know this
businesses down and you know this sacrifice and compromise that comes with
sacrifice and compromise that comes with a partnership and a relationship and
a partnership and a relationship and what is and and understanding
what is and and understanding how how to make that all work is
how how to make that all work is sometimes gives me anxiety and pause you
sometimes gives me anxiety and pause you know and and and and then also there's a
know and and and and then also there's a part of me that has not really lived
part of me that has not really lived life yet I I I haven't really
life yet I I I haven't really traveled as much for fun or just like
traveled as much for fun or just like Japan has been a few times that I've
Japan has been a few times that I've went where I didn't have a schedule
went where I didn't have a schedule where I didn't have to be somewhere for
where I didn't have to be somewhere for press I didn't have to be these mult I
press I didn't have to be these mult I had to put the other hats on you know uh
had to put the other hats on you know uh there's so many different places and
there's so many different places and people I've never had an opportunity to
people I've never had an opportunity to happily meet that I might connect and
happily meet that I might connect and Vibe with that might be a person that my
Vibe with that might be a person that my soul connects to you know um and and I
soul connects to you know um and and I think you know those things I I'm I'm
think you know those things I I'm I'm looking forward to that part of my life
looking forward to that part of my life you know I think the last couple years
you know I think the last couple years I'm starting to get to a place where
I'm starting to get to a place where it's like you know what I got to start
it's like you know what I got to start living yeah you know I've been I've been
living yeah you know I've been I've been I've sacrificed and I've been in locked
I've sacrificed and I've been in locked zoned in for so long it you know I owe
zoned in for so long it you know I owe it to myself a little bit to do that you
it to myself a little bit to do that you know um and I think that's a a byproduct
know um and I think that's a a byproduct of being a little bit of a you know I'm
of being a little bit of a you know I'm a delayed satisfaction delayed
a delayed satisfaction delayed gratification person like I can I've
gratification person like I can I've always wanted to lock in for the first
always wanted to lock in for the first half do what I got to do get to I need
half do what I got to do get to I need to get to make sure everything's
to get to make sure everything's straight and set up and then be a little
straight and set up and then be a little bit more have the freedom to move how I
bit more have the freedom to move how I want to move and or whatever so that's
want to move and or whatever so that's the long-winded answer of a of of a I'm
the long-winded answer of a of of a I'm not I'm not looking but it would take a
not I'm not looking but it would take a very special person to understand and
very special person to understand and grow with me you know just you know you
grow with me you know just you know you want to create memories you know I want
want to create memories you know I want I want a family you know what I'm saying
I want a family you know what I'm saying eventually so we'll see what's up we'll
eventually so we'll see what's up we'll see you are lucky because I asked you
see you are lucky because I asked you that question the other question was
that question the other question was what's his type so
what's his type so I like that I like that I like that
I like that I like that I like that question I like that one you like that
question I like that one you like that better
better no good good ask the wrong question I
no good good ask the wrong question I thought I was reading you I was like
thought I was reading you I was like yeah no I mean joking I don't know I I
yeah no I mean joking I don't know I I wasn't asking you for real I wasn't can
wasn't asking you for real I wasn't can move on for that yeah I was mess with
move on for that yeah I was mess with you uh Fifth and final question yeah uh
you uh Fifth and final question yeah uh if you could we ask this to every guest
if you could we ask this to every guest who's ever been on the show if you could
who's ever been on the show if you could create one law that everyone in the
create one law that everyone in the world had to follow what would it be a
world had to follow what would it be a law
law that you couldn't
that you couldn't intentionally kill or cause bodily harm
intentionally kill or cause bodily harm oh to
oh to anyone that's I think that covers a lot
anyone that's I think that covers a lot of stuff I mean you still you gotta
of stuff I mean you still you gotta leave room people for to humans to be
leave room people for to humans to be humans and everybody's not going to be
humans and everybody's not going to be good you know everybody's not going to
good you know everybody's not going to have all that in there but if we can
have all that in there but if we can eliminate the senseless killing and you
eliminate the senseless killing and you know the bodily harms you know of other
know the bodily harms you know of other people's bodies in a real way I think
people's bodies in a real way I think there's but then there's like the
there's but then there's like the systemic thing I'm trying to get out of
systemic thing I'm trying to get out of cuz like you know I'm trying to eat I'm
cuz like you know I'm trying to eat I'm trying to level the playing field yeah
trying to level the playing field yeah you know um so just the economic
you know um so just the economic opportunities that the disparity those
opportunities that the disparity those those systematic oppression the
those systematic oppression the systematic oppression that does exist is
systematic oppression that does exist is the thing that I I most I most want to
the thing that I I most I most want to change so I'm trying to think of that's
change so I'm trying to think of that's a good question man you keep thinking
a good question man you keep thinking about it tell me later yeah yeah cuz I
about it tell me later yeah yeah cuz I like your one cuz it also applies to
like your one cuz it also applies to like you couldn't develop products that
like you couldn't develop products that like your your question I mean your
like your your question I mean your answer applies to food drugs medicine
answer applies to food drugs medicine which is kind of what keeps a lot of
which is kind of what keeps a lot of people stuck in the system because if
people stuck in the system because if they can like bodily harm to me isn't
they can like bodily harm to me isn't just physical violence it's also the
just physical violence it's also the kind of things we ingest and consume and
kind of things we ingest and consume and that is what keeps a lot of people stuck
that is what keeps a lot of people stuck because they're eating unhealthy food
because they're eating unhealthy food because that's all they have access to
because that's all they have access to and that's all they can afford and that
and that's all they can afford and that that plays with the I mean that's what I
that plays with the I mean that's what I was hearing too yeah on a sub level I
was hearing too yeah on a sub level I don't yeah all right I with that I love
don't yeah all right I with that I love it Michael be Jordan Mike it has been
it Michael be Jordan Mike it has been such a joy and honor we got to do a part
such a joy and honor we got to do a part two I've got I can talk to you for hours
two I've got I can talk to you for hours I've got so many questions man like that
I've got so many questions man like that we can get into but I want to thank you
we can get into but I want to thank you for your honesty your openness uh the
for your honesty your openness uh the fun we've had bringing moss along
fun we've had bringing moss along everyone if you're not drinking it
everyone if you're not drinking it already make sure you drink a moss while
already make sure you drink a moss while you listen it on purpose and thank you
you listen it on purpose and thank you so much for coming by I want audience
so much for coming by I want audience please tag me and Mike with your
please tag me and Mike with your favorite moments I know you guys cut the
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best Clips on Tik Tok and Instagram do that for this episode there was so many
that for this episode there was so many moments where he was just downloading
moments where he was just downloading and uh I think it's going to have a big
and uh I think it's going to have a big impact so Mike thank you again very
impact so Mike thank you again very grateful man thank you so much for
grateful man thank you so much for having me bro it's been it's been an
having me bro it's been it's been an honor the it was worth the wait man so I
honor the it was worth the wait man so I appreciate you having me anytime
appreciate you having me anytime appreciate you if you love this episode
appreciate you if you love this episode you'll love my interview with Kobe
you'll love my interview with Kobe Bryant on how to be strategic and
Bryant on how to be strategic and obsessive to find your purpose our
obsessive to find your purpose our children have become less imaginative
children have become less imaginative about how to problem solve and parents
about how to problem solve and parents and coaches have become more directive
and coaches have become more directive and trying to tell them how to behave
and trying to tell them how to behave versus teaching them how to behave
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