The "Dobbin" strategy, or "Double or Bust," is an in-play betting approach focused on identifying horses whose odds are statistically likely to shorten significantly during a race due to their inherent characteristics and performance indicators, aiming to double the initial stake.
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so we've got a question about Dobbin the
in play betting strategy let's cover a
few pointers okay so straight away we
can see from the question there you've
come from a back to lay angle into
Dobbin I don't think that's an unusual
route to take although there is a little
bit of a problem with that she'll
explain in a second first of all for
anyone that's just come into this video
doesn't understand what Dobbin is Bob
stands for double or bust
meaning you back or start the race you
lay off a half its price hopefully or
potentially doubling your stake if that
doesn't work you obviously lose and you
lose your stakes going bust so you
double or bust quite simple so double or bust
bust
coming from a back to lay angle first of
all it's worth saying the two
disciplines are very different if you're
approaching one it's best just to sort
of raise your mind on the other almost
before approaching it and it's not worth
treating them as though the same the
reason for that being is double or bust
is more statistics based is based on
characteristics of a horse within a race
which then affects the price meaning of
Schlitt drastically shortens a lot of
the time that will come from the way the
horse behaves and the characteristics is
if it's what it's with in the race ie
outperform in the market looking as
though it's a lot more confident a lot
more likely to be in the finish for the
race than it actually is some horses do
this regularly and the behavior shows
through the jockeys as well because I
don't feel as though they need to rouse
the horse on when actually the horse is
not quite as a good thing as it may seem
initially whereas we've back into lay
we're just looking for horses that are
going to start the race and get a break
and ahead of the leaders of the field
obviously bringing the price in in the
process making sure that you can seal in
an early profit so one's more of an
early profit thing with the lead and the
other thing is an overall how would the
horse perform in terms of the whole
market looking as though it'll be in
with a good chance
therefore bringing in price so they're
very similar in the sense that they're
both in play but they are very different
for those reasons as well point as some
remember of both of these and
particularly with the DA be more than
anything is you you've got horse race
here right and it is not just about the
horse that you're selecting everyone
would love it to be about the horse
who's selecting but unfortunately it's
not there's other horses within a race
if you've got one selection that's
actually a good table proposition but
it's in the ten horse race and the other
nine horses are also dog propositions
you know the market can't have every
horse harfan in price so it makes it
harder is what I'm trying to say if
you've got other horses that are likely
to behave in the same way as with any
kind of trade-in we want to click to
knee we want one where it's an unfair
advantage where there's only one that's
really gonna do this and the other you
know potentially gonna look great in the
race even if the horse doesn't win and
so you want a clear-cut decision to make
secondly you're gonna want the behavior
to be confirmed so you want it to be
repetitive behavior the situation may
change if you've got you know that the
horse is the same horse and in the past
it's previously dodged several times
although it's now running over a very
different distance with a very different
jockey at a very different track that's
likely to impact things and that may put
you off making your decision depending
on what's happening within that race I
know you've mentioned the 25 or 50%
option there I can only assume that
comes from having news sites like Patton
forum where on some of the dobbing cards
and the different cards that they've got
available and then sites it shows you
every horses dobbed at 25 percent or 50
percent in the past which may be an
angle you want to take but as I keep
saying with all of these different
things and different questions
opportunity is not great equal and
therefore you can't expect to just say
I'm gonna take a flat 25% dog on
everything I choose because not
everything is a 25% opportunity it may
be a case of some horses of unknown for
Dublin and 50% of us is known for Dublin
at 25% in which case you want to adapt
your approach and Dobbin strategy or
angle to that before you actually even
get stuck into the detail of what we're
trying to do it because there's no point
just saying I've got a one-size-fits-all
because that's not
what happens of opportunity finally
we've W want to make sure that whatever
sites you're using to to groom your data
you want to check that it's actually
correct because I haven't noticed
himself at times in the past and you'll
see that sometimes that dogs get put up
on Twitter but if you burrow into the
actual horse's previous form and go on
somewhere like time form which lists the
in play loads of a horse
within racism in the past that you get
slightly different measurements or
results should we say in different
different places and make sure that what
you're looking at is confirmed from
different sources as well as actually
you know what you're visually seen in
sense of what rates are horses in and
all them kind of characteristics as well
on top of that the usual generic advice
in the sense of keeping your stakes low
avoiding the very short prices obviously
to find a short price runner that's
gonna half in price is harder to fight
and then you're going to get a large
price runner that's gonna run a half in
price because of the leverage within the
market and the different pricing the
more you stay cut the harder it always
becomes to get your stakes out so
keeping them low is it's a great place
to start from keeping them low as well I
mean what's the point in blowing any
more money than you need to you start
doing more too soon or start doing too
short prices and you're just back to
gambling and that's not why we're here
I mean dobbing is technically a betting
strategy although you know it depends on
opinion you could say it's a trading
strategy as well because you're trading
out on the other end of the bet so quick
roundup on this then dubbing pick your
pick your opportunities carefully make
sure that you're only going for the very
best ones try to avoid markets that
aren't particularly liquid keep the
stakes low usual kind of stuff avoid
short prices and make sure that you are
looking at it and coming in from the
angle of you're looking at a more
statistically how the horse has behaved
in the past and its actual running
characteristics rather than you know is
it a leader and then and then treating
it as though it's a dog because they're
two different things one good job
opportunity each day is far better than
having three rubbish ones because
obviously you know you're gonna burn
your steaks and the others he's keeping
your powder dry as they say or making
sure that you're minimizing those losses
and risk on top of dragging in any
potential profits so question a few guys
before I go then
if you were to use a doubling strategy
or a back to lay strategy what would be
your preferable approach for employee
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