0:00 Do you find in your life, this is a quiz
0:02 I give a lot of people, more people you
0:04 know personally talking about God than
0:07 you did say 10 years ago? Yes. Um and I
0:10 am that person. I mean I was an atheist
0:12 10 years ago. I had my daughter. Yeah.
0:15 Um that's you know is I found God the
0:17 day my wife delivered our first uh child
0:21 and um which is a fairly common
0:23 experience. Uh I know other people who
0:25 have had the same thing were atheists
0:27 until that moment. And um what what can
0:30 what changed in you? So all right so it
0:33 was uh basically so I met my so you know
0:37 it's a fairly normal story but I I met
0:39 my wife and we got engaged and then um
0:42 we got married. Um so my wife's like the
0:45 most amazing check. She's just great.
0:47 And I know this is it's always a thing
0:49 to say it's like my wife's better than
0:50 your wife type thing but everybody who
0:52 knows my wife and I don't mean you I've
0:54 never met your wife but but she is
0:56 better. And I'm just kidding. Uh, I
0:58 don't I don't hear people compliment
1:00 their spouses enough actually. I don't
1:02 think everyone always says that. I wish
1:03 people that more often. Well, I do, you
1:06 know, it's not me. She's really just the
1:08 best. Everyone who knows her would
1:09 agree. I mean, like, it's just like
1:10 she's like the most amazing woman. She's
1:12 just gorgeous and she's really super
1:14 smart and she's really sweet and kind.
1:17 Um, and she's just like she she puts
1:19 everyone above herself. She's like I I
1:22 really hit the lottery with her. And I
1:25 was never, you know, I was like
1:26 habitually single. I was never a
1:28 relationship guy and I never really
1:30 wanted to get married. I kind of always
1:32 had this view of like, you know, women
1:34 are trying to change you or trying to
1:36 control you. Every girl that I ever
1:38 dated always wanted a relationship and
1:39 then they always wanted me to not do
1:41 this or not do that. And my wife was
1:43 just she just had my back. She just
1:46 always like wanted to make my life
1:47 better and she did. And I just I fell in
1:50 love with her and I I was like I'm going
1:52 to spend the rest of my life with this
1:54 woman. And so then we uh when she got
1:57 pregnant, I just I was just very
1:58 excited. It was like, you know, we just
2:00 got married. I got a a baby on the way.
2:03 Um I was just like, "This is going to be
2:04 this is the best. Like I'm really
2:06 excited to to do this." And um and I was
2:08 right. It was the best thing I've ever
2:10 done. And so the uh the day that uh was
2:14 um well, she was over her due date. So
2:16 then they they scheduled to come in to
2:18 induce pregnancy cuz they don't let you
2:20 go too long these days. Um which I guess
2:22 is maybe they're right about that. I
2:24 don't know. But anyway, so we go to the
2:25 hospital. They get the ptocin out. Yes,
2:27 that's right. So, we're at uh Lennox
2:29 Hill Hospital in the Upper East Side of
2:31 Manhattan. And
2:33 um by the way, I should I should add
2:35 just leading into the story over the I
2:37 had been like a militant atheist when I
2:39 was younger. I had started to open up my
2:41 mind a little bit to being like I I was
2:43 seeing some of the holes in the atheist
2:44 arguments, but I still was not like a
2:46 believer in God. And so, we were at
2:49 Lennux Lennox Hill Hospital and this is
2:51 how this was the first one. This is how
2:52 it started was um the uh the
2:56 anesthesiologist came in to give my wife
2:58 an epidural and at Lennox Hill or at
3:01 least this guy they asked me to leave
3:03 the room. Um they said they ask the
3:05 fathers to leave the room when they do
3:07 it, you know, cuz they're they're
3:08 putting a spinal thing in and they have
3:10 to be very very precise. Yeah. Right. So
3:13 like and and they don't want I guess
3:14 they don't want you there to react cuz
3:16 then she might react and so they don't
3:18 want to so I go at she can't see what's
3:20 happening. Right. she can't see, but she
3:22 could see you seeing. And so they want
3:23 people with a straight poker face who
3:24 have seen this a lot of times and are
3:26 not watching it happen to their wife and
3:27 baby, you know, so it's a reasonable
3:29 ask. But so I go I go out and I'm in the
3:32 the hallway in the maternity ward at
3:35 Lennox Hill Hospital and I'm just and it
3:37 just hit me. It was like for the first
3:39 time I guess I had not really thought
3:41 about this. I was just so excited to get
3:42 my family started. But for the first
3:45 time, it hit me that like something
3:46 could go
3:48 wrong and that I could leave here alone,
3:51 you know, like something could go wrong
3:52 that I could lose the baby, I could lose
3:54 my wife and it's totally out of my
3:56 control. And like as this started
3:58 hitting me, I started like really
3:59 getting emotional and um it's like I'm
4:01 out there and I'm like I'm crying in the
4:04 hallway of this maternity ward and
4:07 immediately I just started talking to
4:09 God. Um, and I just started uh not just
4:12 talking to God, but like negotiating
4:14 with God. And I was just like, you know,
4:16 like like, dear Lord, if you if you make
4:18 sure that they're okay, I'm going to do
4:21 like I'm going to be the best husband
4:23 and the best father and I will do this
4:25 and you know, like all the different
4:26 things in your life. Have you ever
4:27 prayed before? No. Never once in my
4:29 life. Um, and it all, you know, like all
4:31 the things that, you know, you're
4:32 supposed to be doing that you're not
4:33 doing that well, you know, like I was
4:34 like, "Okay, I'll clean this up. You
4:36 know, I'll call my mom more often. I'll
4:37 do this thing. I'll do. And so anyway,
4:39 so I just started like praying to God
4:41 and not just praying, but like
4:42 negotiating. So anyway, everything was
4:44 fine with that, but my my wife, this was
4:46 the first of many times. She had a very
4:48 there were a bunch of complications in
4:49 the pregnancy. Everyone came out okay,
4:51 thank God. Um but so I ended up talking
4:54 to God a lot that day. And then just
4:57 like as the days went on, it's so
5:00 interesting. It's just organic lifetime
5:01 of not believing and then you just
5:04 start. So this is almost like what
5:06 intellectually, you know, converted me
5:08 later was I was like, "Hey, what the
5:10 hell was that?" I mean, I could I can't
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6:11 one, you know, like again, I'm I'm
6:12 almost a little uncomfortable talking
6:14 about these things because I like
6:14 talking about things where I have like a
6:16 real tight argument that I can prove is
6:18 irrefutable. Profound argument actually.
6:20 It was something where I was like, look,
6:22 so in the moment when it was really all
6:24 on the line and out of my control, I
6:26 wasn't thinking maybe God exists. I knew
6:30 for a 100% certainty unlike nothing I've
6:33 ever known in my life. That not only did
6:34 I know that God existed, but I knew what
6:36 he wanted from me. Like I knew what my
6:39 negotiating power in this was. Is that I
6:42 could pro, you know what I'm saying?
6:43 Like I could promise I'll be a good
6:45 person. and all do. So, not only did I
6:47 know God existed, I knew that God wanted
6:49 me to be a good person and there was and
6:52 look, this is something that people who
6:53 have found God know and people who don't
6:55 believe in God maybe will not accept.
6:58 But there is something to when you open
7:02 yourself up like that to
7:04 God like you find out that he's real.
7:08 And I it's not like he speaks to you or
7:10 he hallucinates. I don't like see a
7:12 fiery bush and the words of God started
7:14 talking. But like he fills you like you
7:17 when you open yourself like that to it,
7:19 you get filled by it and there's no
7:21 there's no more debate in your mind over
7:23 whether that's a real phenomenon or not.
7:25 You're like any more than like if I were
7:27 to leave here and someone were to be
7:28 like, "Do you believe in Tucker
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7:32 know for certain like I know for a
7:33 certainty that Tucker Carlson exists. I
7:35 was just with him." It's it's like that.
7:37 And so it was um and it's never it's it
7:40 changed my life and ever since I'm I
7:42 regularly pray to God. It's something
7:44 I'm conscious of every single day. No
7:46 way. Um every day. Every day. And I
7:48 always I don't even pray exactly. Um I
7:51 don't ask for things ever. I ask for one
7:53 thing ever from God. Um which is that my
7:56 my wife and my kids are healthy and
7:58 safe. It's the only thing I ever pray
8:00 for. I don't ask for anything. The only
8:02 other thing that I do is I I um I
8:04 express gratitude. got like I just say
8:07 thank you for everything I have. So
8:09 that's but that's the extent of it. But
8:11 I think that I cannot overstate how much
8:14 I think that's made me a better person.
8:15 Really? Yeah. Just it's it's very very
8:17 good for you to constantly remind
8:19 yourself how lucky you are that you have
8:21 all the things that you have. It's it's
8:24 very easy to get away from that. And
8:26 that's where that's where you you ruin
8:28 your inner happiness, your inner joy is
8:30 if you start you start taking the things
8:32 you have for granted because once you
8:34 like, you know, once you when you think
8:37 you could lose everything you already
8:39 have and then you don't, that's when you
8:41 really appreciate it. You know, you
8:43 really appreciate what how lucky we all
8:45 are. Well, not to be like too blunt or
8:47 too personal, but you're on the cusp of
8:49 like change in your life on the basis of
8:51 what's happened in the last month in
8:52 your life. I've just seen this story so
8:54 many times. Yeah. So, to be vulgar, your
8:57 income in this year will be higher than
8:58 last year. I'm just telling you that
9:00 because you're way more famous and
9:03 you're also on the right side of
9:05 history, I think. Yeah, I hope so. And
9:08 uh and certainly on the right side of
9:10 popular opinion. So, like that. Do you
9:13 think I mean the danger in life is
9:17 getting what you want and finding
9:18 yourself unhappier? Are you worried
9:21 about that? No, I'm really not. Um, and
9:24 I do just think that it's because again,
9:27 if this was happening to me at 25 or at
9:29 30, I would be very concerned about that
9:31 danger. Literally, like what I just told
9:33 you is kind of already happened in my
9:35 life. I know who I am as a person. I
9:37 kind of know what money actually means.
9:39 It's like there's lots of nice things.
9:40 I'm not downplaying money. It's it's
9:41 very important, particularly in my
9:43 position. It's very important for me to
9:45 be able to protect my wife and kids that
9:47 we have some money, you know what I
9:49 mean? So that I can do that. Um, but no,
9:52 I'm not I'm really not worried about
9:53 that at this point. I think I've kind of
9:55 like my wife herself is a very grounding
9:57 force for me. She's the person whose
9:59 approval I seek. Yes. She's the person
10:01 whose opinion I really care about, you
10:03 know, and so like that's and and she
10:05 keeps me very grounded. Also, just as
10:07 you know, you know, having these little
10:08 kids just keeps you grounded because
10:10 they're uh they're they just don't care
10:12 at all at all. Like literally at all. To
10:14 my my six-year-old the other day, we
10:16 were out to dinner. Um and so we're out
10:18 to dinner. We're sitting down. my wife,
10:19 my my six-year-old girl, and my
10:21 three-year-old boy. And the uh the owner
10:23 of the restaurant is like a fan of mine.
10:25 So, he comes over to the table. He goes,
10:26 "Oh, thank you guys so much for coming.
10:27 I just wanted to shake your hand. I
10:28 really appreciate everything you're
10:29 doing." And I was like, "Oh, thank you
10:31 so much. I appreciate that." So, he
10:32 leaves. And then my daughter, my
10:34 six-year-old, who's kind of 17, but
10:36 she's six. She turns over at me and she
10:38 goes, "Why'd he come over and say hi to
10:39 you, Dad?" "Cuz you're famous." And just
10:41 looks and then just turned right back to
10:43 her menu. I mean, it was like she could
10:44 not have just undercut me more than
10:46 that. I was like, "Oh, I guess I'm not
10:48 really that cool." All right, I will.
10:50 But but that that stuff helps.
10:54 I'm really lucky that I didn't have this
10:57 moment 15 years ago that I had it now.
11:01 So, I think I think I'll be good. But
11:02 then, you know, you cut back to me in a
11:04 year, I come back here, I got like the
11:05 shades on or something. It's totally
11:08 ruined me. Pelgr not Perier.
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