Heavy Metallurgy Presents: Episode #31 - 1984 favorites With Ken's Death Metal Crypt! | Heavy Metallurgy

hey out there how's everyone doing tonight

tonight

welcome to another episode of heavy metallurgy

metallurgy

the uh person you hear laughing

hysterically in the background is my

esteemed co-host marty worm marty how we

doing this fine evening oh i'm better now

now i

i

i'm glad to hear it good to hear

marty had a little case of the holiday

blues so i figured i'd festive up the

place a little bit and uh help bring him

out of his funk tonight and uh here to

assist me with that is one of

everybody's favorite youtube

personalities ken from ken's death metal

crypt ken talking about somebody else

how's it going man oh if that was any

better i couldn't stand it

good to hear is everybody had a nice thanksgiving

thanksgiving

sure it was pretty good pretty good

actually as many people that were here

and in-laws nobody got offended nobody left

left

you know in a hurry and yeah and i was

actually pretty chill good deal

everybody survived the black friday uh

lines or did we all just uh

stay inside and order records online

stayed at home we went out we went my

wife and i went out went out and braved

the elements we did and it was actually

it wasn't bad at all really no very cool yeah

yeah

my wife used to do the whole 4 a.m 5 a.m

thing every year but she's kind of

gotten away from it over time but uh

yeah it's everybody out there i hope

you're also having a good holiday with

the extended weekend lots of food lots

of family lots of football lots of stuff

on sale we're not going to talk about

how many records i've ordered in the

past 24 hours because that would just be

kind of sad and

if we reveal numbers which we're not

going to do

but what we are going to do tonight

is talk about some of our favorite

releases from 1984.

uh ken was kind enough to join us for

the stream this evening and so we're

like can pick a year

any year except for y2k since we'd

already covered that one

in a previous episode and ken wasted no

time in single and out 1984 is the year

that he wanted to talk about some of his

favorite records from

ken why did you pick 1984

i just thought there was a stacked year um

um

what a you know looking back just what a

wonderful time i was almost going to

pick 85 to say well let's go in the

middle you know let's start in the

middle of the decade there 85 and then i

just wrote and then i of course i

remembered um you know my favorite band

of all time had

their uh release in 1984 and i think

that's what kind of tilted me towards 1984.

1984.

but then um just

pulling out my list and going pulling

these records out to talk about them

what a wonderful time it was to to to

have been in the medal in 19 it was a

year of exploration

for me

oh growth and exploration yep

wonderful so

yeah i think you know and talking with a

lot of folks you know here and there

over the years 84 is usually decided like

like

one of the two best years for heavy

metal releases that a lot of folks point

to 1986 maybe as being the

kind of highlight for heavy metal

history but 84 gets an awful lot of

votes too as we're going to see tonight

there's just tons of classic albums

top-notch stuff by a lot of bands

and uh yeah there were some trends

things were changing a little bit in

terms of you know where the epicenter of

the heavy metal movement was located on

earth uh and i'm sure we'll see that

pattern emerge as we talk about some of

our records tonight

but yeah anything else shell would like

to say in terms of introduction where

was everybody at in 1984 for some perspective

perspective

just entering high school freshman in

high school

freshman high school marty what about

you i was 13 years old and searching

transitioning from

um well kiss i mean i grew up worshiping kiss

kiss

and um

some of the styles of music as i will show

show

there was one specific record that kind

of opened my opened my eyes to the

heavier side of things but um

yeah i mean i was still listening to i

left a lot of what you could say is

mainstream hard rock

bare metal maybe a little bit um

um

thankfully the heavier stuff saved me

before i fully fell into the hair metal

uh chasm but um

yeah i mean i was a product of going

over to a friend's house that lived in

town that had mtv

and you know he could still see kiss and

d.o and

um videos on mtv and was very influenced

by all that and

yeah just kind of grew from there

but we'll get into that as we get into this

this

we will yeah uh yeah and one thing

that's uh it's a good point to make

through marty 84

things are in metal are starting to

diverge into some categories a little

bit but overall a lot of stuff was still

just kind of lumped in this big

bin of heavy metal you know you had a

thrash scene developing and you

definitely had some bands that were

leaning more commercial friendly a

little more hairspray and stuff but um

everything wasn't divided out into such

you know very distinct camps just yet by

1984. if people were listening to

something like slayer they were probably

also very aware of you know bands like

you know rat or motley crew or lizzie

borden at the same time so yeah

yeah

it's very different from today where

you've got you know a thousand micro

genres and everybody's very narrowly

focused on a few things uh 84 is a lot

of it's still just called heavy metal

and most folks were pretty fine with that

that

yep yeah but there was a tendency and

you mentioned slayer which is a real

good which is a great example of uh

uh

where metal was going to it's in its

extremities you know

um and uh yeah we can talk more about

that as we show

our releases right absolutely all right

was there anything else that folks would

like to

introduce tonight we're not doing a

really long introduction folks because

everybody knows and loves ken uh but ken

if there is anything that you've got

coming up that you'd like to promote any

uh special guests coming over to the

crypt in the near future you're more

than welcome to let folks know about it

no no

tomorrow night you have a show tomorrow

night you have a stream tomorrow night

no i don't yeah thanks bernie yeah i got

uh the fellas from infested

um their california-based band my good

buddy chris johnson company chris runs

is the father of sewer rot records and

uh he is the guitarist vocalist of

infested they just released their first

demo um on sewer rock records just

released and we're gonna have a chat

with those fellas about uh they're all

in different bands like the other guy

the other two members in that band

they're power trio

and uh we're going to have a discussion

with them tomorrow night at uh 8 pm

central time

awesome come check it out

absolutely everybody should be over

there tomorrow to check that out for

sure always really good discussions on

ken streams absolutely thanks

all right well without further ado it

sounds like we're ready to talk 1984 and

i have a feeling folks have a lot of

records they want to talk about so ken

why don't you start us off with something

something

all right well i think right off the bat

i think people would probably expect

that i'm going to show my favorite band

of all time because they released it uh

they did have a release in 1984 but i'm

going to save that or let me oh i was

going to get it ready i was going to

pull it off well i'm going to let you

i'm going to let somebody else because i

want to go a little bit more to what i

was talking about to the extremity

the extremities of metal um and

some bands and releases that maybe were

starting to help like alex said you know

everything was kind of lumped together

but there were some bands that were

taking the realms of heavy metal into a

more extreme place i felt and one of

those bands was

celtic frosts

now what this record did for in my

opinion what this record did for um

um

death metal yeah black metal um

and just going in just taking heavy

metal and metal to a more extreme place

um there you go we all had it um it you know

know

yeah i mean

it most certainly had a huge impact on where

where

extreme metal is today even and i don't

think there's a um

a soul that is in the death metal today

that couldn't

uh give thanks um

to a band like celtic frost and an ep

like morbid tails you know into the

crypt of rays procreating the wicked

dethroned emperor morbid tales yeah

yeah

one of my favorite releases of 1984. now

i'll be honest i didn't again going back

i wasn't exposed to you know like heavy

metal until

um 1983 so about a year before and i did

not buy this in 1984. i probably didn't

buy this until like 85 86 so probably a

year year and a half later after its

release i actually bought it um so you

know a lot of the stuff and then now

there were a couple records i could buy

but keep in mind i was 13 14 years old

so i didn't have the means to go out and

buy every single record that was being released

released

so i didn't get some of these until a

few years later um but you know this one

i didn't probably get like i said till

about a year two year year and a half

later and uh what an impact it had and

the reason was

was um

um

my fir the first heavy metal record i

ever bought was venom's welcome to hell and

and

seeing the picture of venom's welcome to

hell and then when i started buying

music you know metal magazines like

metal forces i i was trying to look for

bands that looked

like venom

and you know

looking at a picture like that

you know

i kind of figured it would be something

screaming something like those

celtic frost morbid tails man you you cannot

cannot

nobody can argue that album you can't

beat it and

for me it was you know i'm along with

you i probably didn't get that album

until 90 or 85 um

um

but when i heard it holy [ __ ] that

opened up new realms of heavy you know i

never heard hellhammer until later

and honestly i prefer celtic frost over

hellhammer i mean hell hammers for for

me is charm there's a lot of charm to hellhammer

hellhammer um

um

but i think they really started to

figure out you know their instruments

and what they were doing a lot more on

that album and like you said it influenced

influenced

oh yeah it's still considered highly

influential you hear tons of celtic

frost and hellhammer and lots of you

know death metal bands still coming out

to this day it's a huge impact on the sound

sound

and you're right marty they you know

they weren't virtuosos by this point but

they had definitely learned their lesson

that they didn't want to be constantly

pigeonholed as this you know band that

was just noisy and couldn't play and so

they were definitely

making big strides in terms of uh

musicianship songwriting

they were they had a plan now they knew

what they wanted to be and they were

rapidly heading that way and they made a

kick-ass album in 1984 as a result of it

for sure they practiced all the time too

which helps i mean you play your

instrument all the time that's all you

do you you

inadvertently get good at it

you know whether you want to or not it's

what happens you get used to can't help

but uh can't help but improve no yeah

but no an awesome album can absolutely well

well

depending on which day you ask me

arguably my favorite celtic frost

release it's definitely the one i play

the most

100 percent my favorite my favorite from

celtic cross 100

100 yeah it's a it's until this day

it's like

classic's not even a word for it you

know i i can't think of a word

to describe it's it's it's more than a classic

classic genre

genre

you know i don't know if you could say

genre defining because i don't know if it

it

did it defined a genre i mean or a

sub-genre i don't know but um

um

more technical than that

oh it's intense at this point

i think all of us could throw that

record on and know every note and scream

and gurgle on that damn thing it's like

not a surprise anymore but it's still

fun to listen to

i will say though i think

i was very impressed with uh monotheist mhm

mhm

typically when i reach for celtic frost

these days it's that album i think that album

album

is the art piece that they always strive

to make

and they did so they walked the line

between avant-garde artistic statement

and celtic frost formula

um there's some songs that are way out

there and strange but even on morbid

tales you've got um uh

uh

dance macabre

that's an instrumental yeah yeah where is

going on and on and on i mean they they

had evan guard elements from the

beginning but it just seems like on

monotheists they had the maturity and

the skill and the production values they

nailed it whereas everybody rants and

raves about in the pandemonium is this big

big

artistic statement man

this might be a hot take but that album

to me is

so overblown i think the band thinks it's

it's

better than it is i mean you start off

with mexican radio you start off the

album with a shitty cover

and there's just some bad songs on that

record anyway that's not 1984. sorry i'm

rambling see i told you i'd do it

that's okay

no and no it's a good point monotheist

is an amazing album and yes it's it it's

a great celtic frost album you know it

just hits all the marks that you want

that band to hit i agree completely yep

yep

okay mr allen

all right well ken started at cameo in

the extreme end of where metal would

head i want to start kind of uh looking

back at where metal had been up to 1984.

and this is one of my uh favorites it's

the fourth and last album from which

fine lords of sin uh

uh

again they made several albums

throughout the new wave of british heavy

metal they were always kind of a b

tier and i've always had a soft spot for

them but i am not going to claim they're

you know one of the highlights of the

new wave of british heavy metal or anything

anything

but they were a band that got

progressively better over time whereas

the later albums are actually much

better than the first couple of albums

which is pretty rare in heavy metal

circles you know we all tend to prefer

the demo over everything else but this

is a band where you want the later stuff

they got very good at

making solid albums by the end

um so yeah personal favorite really good

track list on it

it's also though one reason i'm starting

with this is it's going to be probably

the only

new wave of british heavy metal album i

mentioned tonight

which by 1984

the new wave of british heavy metal

wasn't technically over but

a lot of people felt like it had run its

course and that you know the british

bands were

past their prime some of them were

becoming more mainstream some of them

were already breaking up and fading away

the british music scene was kind of

moving in other directions already and

and

as such a lot of the big things that

came out in 1984 are not from british

metal bands there's you know a couple of

obvious exceptions we'll talk about

but it was coming down to like you know

the two or three behemoths were you know

at the forefront but all these other bands

bands

they were

yeah they were kind of fading out of the

scene more and more the the epicenter of

heavy metal was not going to be the uk

at this point it was quickly shifting

over to the united states and i think

we'll see that with a lot of the titles

we pick tonight at least i know in my

stack it's a ton of u.s metal and you

know a few foreign releases too but yeah

only i think this one british one made

the stack tonight so uh you know the new

way for british heavy metal had done its

thing it had a huge impact and influence

but by this point you know us bands had

sprung up they had learned those lessons

they bought all those imports from

britain and now that torch was getting

passed and so

it was time for another country to

really start defining heavy metal and

what it was going to be like as we moved

into the mid 1980s so yeah i wanted to

start with this one because it is a good

album it's definitely worth a shout out

in 1984

but uh

it's you know

it doesn't have a lot of peers on the

british medal scene in that particular year

year

i love the serious discussion with that

[ __ ] hat

oh what this thing

did i mention it sings and dances

you did not

must have slipped my

mind cd cult makes a good point here um

it amazes me that in 84 something like

celtic frost happened metal was still in

its infancy basically in 84 and for

extreme stuff to already be hitting

showed how fast metal was moving and

that is a good point because [ __ ] was changing

changing

there was like a lot of things going on

in 84 that was happening really fast

metal was getting faster was another

part you know it's

it was kind of evolving out of the you

know the quick pokebeat into something a

little more neck breaking i guess you

could say

is moving into darker territory

sonically um

and in um

lyrically there's a lot of you know

venom so proudly started off in the the

satanic panic era and

and

a lot of bands followed suit after them

you know

yep well i mean it was a big thing with

you know that early metal scene was

always trying to be the everybody wanted

to be the most extreme band and so yeah

that envelope had to get pushed very

rapidly because

venom yeah as you said had already set

you know a very high bar

so bands like hellhammer had to try to

one-up venom and then some of these

other bands that i'm sure we're going to

touch on they had to start one-upping

hellhammer and it was a very rapid

progression it was always yes who can be

the fastest who can be the you know

most evil sounding and

that may sound a little weird to people

today because

uh yeah we're well past that point of

anybody trying to claim they're the

loudest or the heaviest or whatever but

at the time i mean it really was an arms

race uh to see yeah which what was going

to be just you know the fastest band in

the world was

an ambition that you know these kids

were setting out to really be able to

try to plant their flag and say

nobody's faster than us or nobody you

know drums as quick as we do

nobody's as evil looking as we are yeah

it was a real thing so

metal did have to rapidly evolve it went

down that path pretty fast

you're absolutely right

all right for sure

well for me i could talk about where it

was where it's going but i figured in

1984 i'm 13 years old i'm going to talk

about where i was at with metal at that

point and i was still clinging on to my

youth of kiss

and um this album came out amalize it's

got mark st john on guitar

finds kiss

being a little more aggressive you know

they did their failed um experimental album

album

they dropped the makeup you know had

done an album to this previous where

they dropped their makeup

so this was you know kiss trying to find

their way looking tough even though

they're still hanging on to

you know the poofed up hair and um revlon

revlon

uh makeup products but um

this is a decent album i mean i i really

tried to sell this album a lot to

friends when i got it because i liked it

a lot i thought it was really heavy it

was fast kevin's on fire heaven's on

fire is on here burn [ __ ] burn is a

good aggressive gene song

um lonely's a hunter is a good song hide

enough into the fires real aggressive

intros start off the um

um

it's a good album

but the writing was on the wall what was

coming and this album i played a lot

when i got it but it it didn't

eventually it didn't as 1984 progressed

didn't really stick

later i agree though that was a good

record one yeah i kind of agree you know

i agree with you that it when it first

hit me when i first listened to it

because i saw them was it the following

year on that tour

or maybe it was like a couple years

later because they were still because at

that show they played heaven's on fire

yeah what was the hitting i think it

might have been their single the stage

lit up like a like that christmas tree

behind allen i mean it just

the whole place was i mean i'm surprised

the place didn't catch on fire there was

so much pyrotechnics going on stage when

they played that song i mean that whole

stage lit up on fire

it was the coolest thing though just

listening you know listening to go into

that song heaven's on fire this stage

just blows up into a ball of fire it was

i did like that i like that i have that

on vinyl too i did like that

hey 61 people watching thanks for

hanging out with us tonight we really

appreciate everybody thank you so much

uh ken

you're back

yes sir yes sir all right well um

keeping in the extreme of 1984 a record

that absolutely scared the

jesus out of me um i didn't even know

what it was i didn't play it for

probably another uh

uh

week after getting it because i didn't

understand it and i i thought it was

really scary

um and it scared me until this day it

scares me and uh we're going to talk

about genre defining records yeah

yeah

the first battery um you know

with with uh

how did you describe this in 1984 again

another record i didn't get in 1984

again probably there till 85 86 um but

even then as a 15 16 year old and had

been exposed at that point to many metal

records metal albums metal mini metal

releases um how do you describe this in 1984

1984

you know how do you

what do you do with this where do you

put it

um obviously typically in

in

well i mean thrash was going but not

really going yet i guess so

but where do you put it i don't think i

could think it would be you you set it

next to venom and

that's the only peer yeah that would

jump to mind well later we would call

this later on obviously marty no well

i'm sure you know too but we uh you know

later on we call this the first wave of

black metal sure um you know

that's but we didn't call that we didn't

call this black metal it's time

i don't think anybody

honestly well that's another stream for

you guys maybe uh

what when did we call first wave first

wave was it i called like across morbid

tails i always called that a trash

record i don't know better

you know what i mean though like that

that's another stream for you guys when

did we call the first wave of black

metal black metal uh you know what was

it uh after the the second wave of black metal

metal

um anyways probably yeah just uh

in today you know playing this record

just still you get that same eerie

feeling of of what

what

satanic metal you did

corazon's vocals just at the time you

thought that he was like you know in

agony screaming him and just the whole

thing you know the the goat here and

just yeah the whole nine yards the

pentagram on the back the whole you know

satanic image um another record that you

know goes with like you said murray

morbid tales that's just

you know classic isn't even a word for

it you know it's timeless

it's ageless venomous venomous you know it's

it's

um yeah just bathory

okay i heard um i think my first battery

i heard was the return a friend had it

and i didn't like it

i didn't like it i think i said this

dude it sucks it's it's shitty

then um

much later in the years i ended up

buying hammer heart

on tape at a in a use a store used i

loved it and then i started backtracking

it eventually so i was late coming to

that stuff but you know i called that

[ __ ] thrash i called possessed thrash i

mean everything i didn't really

understand i lumped into thrash

this is kind of how i said it you know

this is evil thrash you know it's like

black metal even though venom coined the term

term

they didn't really that the genre

defying statement didn't really stick

with me i mean when i thought of black

metal i thought of venom i thought of

the second venom album you know it was

the title of an album not a style of

music really right this is weird

that's like that's what i was meaning

like what when did first wave become the

first wave i think it was

when we decided there was a second wave

with emperor and

it was those bands that made us look

back and where did this come from oh

it's this it's clear yeah

now that we've seen the where it ended

up we can see the path now we can track

it back but

at the time [ __ ] i didn't know what the

hell it was i didn't either i didn't

like i said it scared me and then i

didn't put it on for like a week or two

yeah and it was a real outlier i mean in

its scene too it's i mean there were no

peers in that you know in sweden that

we're doing anything on that level at

all it's not like you know sweden of

course became a big thing for extreme

metal but that was much much later all

the other swedish bands at the time were

much more

in the new wave of british heavy metal

mold and then you had bathroom doing

that it was yeah just a complete anomaly

i guarantee if kwarathon went to shows

dressed like he was on those pictures

that we saw in the metal magazines he

scared that piss out of people at those

shows in sweden oh yeah i get nobody

talk to corathon i guarantee it yeah

plus he was like a giant he was like yeah

yeah yeah

yeah

yeah he's scared of not one person talk

all right alan

all right

so yeah

i got my new wave of british heavy metal

fix out of the way for the night

and then to kind of highlight where

metal was going i definitely wanted to

show this one metal massacre five so

this was the installment that came out

in 84 on metal blade

and you know this of course you know

seminal compilation series uh that

really helped establish a ton of great

bands give them their first exposure

stands out from the

volumes that came before it for the

sheer number of bands that went on to

big things you know when you look at the first

first

three four volumes each one has you a

couple of bands that you established a

long career

and a couple of bands that maybe did an

ep and a couple of bands nobody ever

heard of again but the lineup on this

one uh is just insane you've got omen

you've got voivod you've got overkill

fates warning

metal church uh

uh

and hellhammer um and mace

and a few others that did multiple

albums uh you know like attacker that

still did well too

it's just an incredibly loaded

compilation and again i think this

harkens back to where america was

becoming you know the forefront of the

heavy metal scene and a lot of these

american bands

were now

uh solid enough you know they you know

had the chops they had the talent they

were becoming the new face of heavy

metal moving forward that you know this

isn't a compilation where

one band got the big break and all the

others kind of got left in the dust this

is like all these guys got signed or

almost all of them uh almost all these

bands had an m stuff

stuff

so yeah it's an interesting volume for

that in terms of just sheer

star power it's far and away the most

stacked of the metal massacre series and

i think it's yeah just a good indication

of how

heavy metal was really coming to its own

in the united states in 1984. you know

before this she had things had built up

yet some really important things come

out in 1983 but in 1984 the doors were

getting kicked wide open and these bands

were really going to establish

themselves long-term moving forward so

really important compilation that showed

off a lot of these bands taking that

first step

well done alan well done thank you

to show that with all those representations

representations

um yeah good cool hey by the way can i

comment or no i can't comment on that

you have to you have to it's so dumb you

have to open i can comment but you have

to open up a side uh youtube

if you have to youtube and open in

another tab yeah open it in another tab

yeah just hop over and check the

comments from time to time but was there

one you saw that you wanted to comment

oh no i just in general i i was i'm like

i can't comment no just in general i was

just seeing the comments rolling by and

i was like oh maybe i'll comment but i

i don't know why stream yard doesn't

allow that function you think it would

be everybody in the chat should be into

the stream should be able to comment on

the chat but anyway

um good good call on that metal massacre

stuff for me though the metal blade

comps that really resonated with me and

my younger days were the best of metal

blade the best the best of metal blade

comps those are good too yep volume one

was a revolution for me i mean i heard

so many great bands from that that's the

first time i heard slayer that was the

first time i heard omen um

um

lizzie borden a lot of that [ __ ] it's

like holy crap there's another one of

those i had to go buy everything that

was on that damn comp

yep yeah i did the same with uh i forget

which one i got first it was volume 2 or

volume 3 from best of metal blade but

yeah i just started working my way down

the track list go to the record store

once every few weeks and

buy another cd buy another band

whichever one they had in

well i guess it's my turn to jump in and

yes it is everybody's talking about cool

heavy stuff and i'm still stuck in this

crap but i'm gonna pull out that's quite okay

okay

here's two that came out in 84.

to this day i still love the hell out of

rat i don't give a [ __ ] anybody says

this is good hard rock they were one of

those bands that

yeah they were kind of trying to look a

little hair metal-ish but their music

had a bit more of a

street edge to it

a little more hard rock influence rock

and roll yep you've got warren d martini

who's a shred [ __ ] guitar player

um great songs they wrote great songs

stephen piercy had a very unique

vocal style

um this album the one after invasion

your privacy which is my favorite and

dancing undercover those three albums is

a great run of records

if you want to try to dip your tone to that

that

definitely check that out this album

dawkin for me

i've never liked don dawkins voice he

has i'm sorry a wimpy tone to his voice

i liked some of this i like this album

this is probably the of the early [ __ ]

the most aggressive um

um uh

uh

kind of listen this was so [ __ ] long

it's got some power metal overtones on

it too it does it really does uh tooth

and nail you know the title track's a

great song really aggressive

i don't know this is you know this was

the the end was coming for this style

for me for a very very very long time

it's only now that i'm starting i mean i

just picked this up

for eight dollars at the record shop

downtown you know two months ago i'm

starting to like revisit you know

because i'm getting older

i'm getting old and um nostalgia is

starting to kind of creep into my uh

listening habits which is fine um but

yeah the next the next my next round i'm

gonna end on the last two more

mainstream things before we start

getting into the before i start getting

the more heavy stuff but yeah i mean

that style that style of music was where

i was at

the transition was coming

yeah no it makes sense i mean it makes

sense and that's a great another great

point yeah to bring up about a band like

rat who was they had huge rock and roll

influence yeah and their music for sure

you know even the first especially the

first album oh yeah and then you know

going in like like you said even you

know like you said invasion of privacy

started getting a little more tad bit

more amazing although i i like that

record i have that i like the way it's

produced it's got a very good atmosphere

to it and the song that's a good record

[ __ ] catchy catchy

and again rat played right alongside all

those other early la bands on the metal

blade roster yeah they were very much

part of that scene

it wasn't split up yet you know they and

motley crew played right alongside

armored saint and [ __ ] they didn't last

as long as they did because they were

bad exactly

and they had some hits i mean round and

round obviously today it was on a

commercial was it a geico commercial or

something i don't remember but

you know oh yeah

and it actually it

inspired their like uh rankings on

spotify went through the roof you know

eric bauer says round and round blows though

but okay

ken you're back i'm back all right all

right so staying within the extremity of

metal of course because that's what we

do here in the crypt um

i'm trying to remember if this was the first

this might have been the first thing i

heard from them

uh and then from a friend and then i

actually this is a record i did buy at

i mean again there you go yeah i figured

marty david too um again just you know

another one of those records uh you know

like like morbid tales and battery i

mean it you know um thrash

thrash

more thrashy for sure thrash but getting

an aggressive thrash you know much more

aggression in their edge of thrash and

uh just you know

song titles even you know

bass lines drumming

drumming

um starting to you know they're

they're hitting home with so much

extremity and so much

evil sounding

riffing and just starting you know again

like allen pointed out

the us starting to

starting to pull away

from uh what what was being categorized

as metal at the time with something like

this but on in the chapel man this um

yeah again another

classic's not the word the classic isn't

the right word for these kinds of releases

again timeless priceless ageless um

[ __ ] slayer man

against my hair this cd this ep though

is really a band

their first album show no mercy is my

favorite slayer album it was very new

wave of british heavy metal influence

the riffs

the the speed of the songs

it was very much a product of that

influence this starts showing them

kind of casting that aside a little bit

and really is there a better song than

chemical warfare

that's my favorite on their [ __ ] just a

a

[ __ ] raging song

from any band i mean it was slayer that

did it though and

this set the tone for hello eights it

set the tone for what was to come for a

little while i mean

what the hell's the one divine

intervention was the last one i got and

went okay this is pretty okay

but after that i could care less about

slayer to be completely honest but um

agreed this [ __ ]

is so [ __ ] iconic this is

metal head dna if this isn't in your dna

there's something wrong of course this

comes from a guy that just showed a

[ __ ] docking record so you know

sue me but

i got talking records too man

but you're not showing them i'm the one

that brought the dream

dream warriors man grant i'm not the one

wearing the turkey hat but i brought the

docking record

all right allan's up turkey head

all right uh well i'll make you feel a

little better here marty i'll stray a

little bit more towards that arena rock

side too

monster album that came out in 84 from a

long running band that had reinvented

themselves really successfully in the

these days you know it's of course you

know very

you know it's the cool hipster thing to

do to only focus on their 70s material

which is no fantastic stuff

um i love the span's 80s output most of

it is extremely good you know a lot of

those 70s metal slash hard rock bands

they didn't survive the transition into

the 1980s very well at all most of them

petered out at the end of the 70s or

really just turned into you know a very

commercial leaning fm radio kind of product

product

and you know scorpions you know there's

still great guitar work all over these

you know these are still you know

classic songs that you can uh you know

you love yes they have gotten you know

run into the ground a bit on radio and

commercials none of us really need to

hear rocky like a hurricane again that

doesn't mean it's a bad song it's just

that we've heard it too much but uh no

scorpions during this time they were

still putting out you know kick-ass albums

albums

and that should not be forgotten just

because they don't have the same you

know heavy

you know air about them of a you know a

slayer or you know those kind of bands

yeah this was still you know absolute

you know front and center huge metal

release from 1984 great album love it

still play it quite regularly i probably

play blackout more than this one but uh

again i also you know love drive is

really good

you know animal magnetism is really good

everything they've done you know through

this point you know they were still

hitting home runs with pretty much every album

album

anybody else noticed the michael jackson

beat it guitar line on that um

it's it drives me nuts it drives me i

i be can't um

be can't um

mind till i come back to love you that

one i think

yeah is it coming home coming i'd say

coming home yeah i think it is it's it's

basically almost no for no beat it by

michael jackson it's the same speed the

same key the same notes

it's like real [ __ ] close i heard it

i'm like what the hell is this

i used to come home from school and then

put this on the turntable

and then play

pretend i was playing air guitar and

playing the song the solo and still

loving you

for like five weeks straight i did that

like i'd come home put this record on

just put on still loving you and pretend

to play the guitar solo you don't care i

was too busy looking at the side boob to

be playing in here right

busy looking at that

i'm glad you mentioned that marty cause

this was actually still considered a

pretty racy cover in 1984 when this went

into some of the other stores you know

they had to do an alternate cover to get

it in places you know the bigger changes

that's the inside of the record yep but

for the uh yeah if you bought this was a

cassette i bought at walmart and yeah so

like the you know the walmarts of the

world and such this was on the front cover

cover

that you couldn't have side boob in

wally world that was too much uh back in

the day

that yeah the women that are walking

around walmart are wearing like this

tank top and you can see all sorts of

side cleavage i didn't say there wasn't hypocrisy

to chromium dioxide i was going to but

someone already showed it ah yeah i yeah

i'm actually that'll be the first

response video i ever do i'll be

recording that tomorrow oh [ __ ] awesome cool

cool

all right

all right marty i'm up all right i'm

gonna not feed you at the same time hope

i'm not stepping on anybody's toes here but

but um

um

first we're going to go with a legacy a

legacy guy and it's ronnie james dio the

last in line i got that too this is an

84 classic

um i think holy diver was my first

experience with dio i was very excited

for this album it's got we rock

last in line was the big hit the videos um

um uh

uh

mystery of course was a single for this

album as well and of course the epic

ending egypt the chains are wrong um

um

it was dio i came upon dio first before

i discovered his black sabbath era and

when i discovered the black sabbath era

and then later the rainbow era cemented

cemented

his legacy in my mind as him being one

of the greatest rock

rock

singers ever

um the rainbow rising is one of my

all-time favorite albums um

um

uh sabbath mob rules

one of my all-time favorite albums

and um to la the last of the more

mainstream stuff you can't go without

talking about

this this guy right here um

this is a sleazy classic

um on the la strip these guys there is

no denying the character

and um

in blackie lawless's vocals even to this day

day

whether he'd be putting out stuff i care

that much about he's got a great voice

a lot of dirt in there yet a lot of

emotion in his singing

um this [ __ ] was really really excellent

for me i want to be somebody of course um

um

this whole album is full of bangers one

after the other there really isn't um

um

on your knees holy [ __ ] what a great song

song

tons and tons of good stuff and this

machine yep love machine it was uh [ __ ]

like a beast animals on here right

i think it was a single single yeah no i

was a single yeah yeah it's not only

from school days tournament tormentor

torture never stops that's on here too

right that's such a good [ __ ] heavy

metal record it's a great heavy metal

record and

um they got a lot more commercial after

this uh the last command i still like

that record but they started to drop

a little bit more with the influence

that was going on around them on the

sunset strip

but it wasn't much longer after all that

that i was turned around we'll talk

about that soon

soon

is next

oh before before before we jump to

canada i'm in uh

uh

on the the little just trivia note for

folks out there some of our uh viewers

like the little trivia facts are in

there there's a weird connection with

the with dios last in line which was an

excellent pick

and this album are either of y'all

familiar with this by a band called

lester maddox [Music]

[Music] no

no

album's called gothic lore uh

uh

there is a track it's a very small band

they did two albums

not bad stuff

but uh side two starts off with a track

called egypt the chains are off

as opposed to egypt the chains are on

it's not a cover

uh but yeah an obvious nod to the the

dio song on this weird one it always

stuck with me because it's not a bad

little album and back in the uh metal

maniacs forum days there was somebody that

that

remembered this song title but they

couldn't remember the name of the band

and it took us a while

for the group to dig around and figure

out what the hell was talking about

everyone kept someone's like dude you're

talking about the deal song he's like i

am not talking about the damn dio song i

know the dio song he's like this was a

different band

that did a song called the chainsaw off

and i can't remember their name

and eventually the group you know high

of mine worked it out and figured oh

it's this thing so yeah weird little

connection to the do album there

uh alan rock and metal plus is asking if

you drew that cover um

um

no no if if i had drawn it it wouldn't

look nearly this good

i was gonna say it looks awfully good

good

yes yeah it's not a bad little album uh

it was hey i i've still got it to this

day so it can't be that bad they made a

second album that's also okay but that

one's a lot harder to find for reasons

reasons

no i've never heard that man no either

they're decent they they're not going to

reinvent the genre they're not going to

make anyone's top 10 list but it's a fun listen

listen

all right all right my turn you got it

all right it's all you can

keeping in the extreme surprise

surprise

um just another

again i don't know at the time i know i

know how we categorize it today but at

the time

uh you in 1984 and you were to listen to

this album

again like marty pointed out it's

probably thrash

that's problem but

today i don't know if people would say

this was just thrash but

in the sign of evil

by sodom um you know who's

who's not what kid getting into metal is

not going to want to listen to that

record right

i mean

what what person what

what

guy or gal getting into metal like a 13

14 year old kenneth cabito isn't gonna

want to check that guy out

and what he has to say right i mean yeah

but again just one of these you know

blasphemer outbreak of evil um great song

song

you know about the time you could you

know you like marty said you lump this

into thrash because you didn't

understand what it was and that was the

only label you could give it that was

quite a scratch that was thrashed to me

but you know right at the time but today

would would i say this is a pure thrash

no

today probably not but back then

absolutely you know it's got some first

wave black metal going on in it too it's

like a weird mix of stuff yeah blackened

thrash a lot of black thrash bands take

influence from this today a lot of black

thresh uh bands you know cite this as being

being

hugely influential so uh yeah sodom in

the sign of evil um you know in in

going going out and you know uh

uh

stepping out of the u.s realm um you know

know

uh especially for me like you know marty

showed d.o and then you know we showed

slayer and then you know go and go into

the realms of germany and finding sodom

and tommy angel ripper angel ripper was

his name on this was you didn't even

know the guy's name was tom you just

knew it was angel ripper yep so well his

first thing was angel's last name was

ripper right angel ripper man

there was no tom back then he didn't go

by tom tomas

tomas

he went by angel river

river

outbreak of evil

what a [ __ ] sign alan

alan

all right ah well uh let's stay in

germany for a minute because that's

worth pointing out that uh you know

germany had had you know some early

success with uh in heavy metal with

except and scorpions

uh but then you know the new wave of

british heavy metal became all the focus

for a while and

germany of course would it will

re-establish themselves as a leading

force in heavy metal but you know

took a few years for a lot of you know

really strong follow-ups you know an 84

for example you know noise records was

just getting up and running and this was

one of their releases uh this is their

death metal compilation with the

original cover which got them in a lot

of trouble in a lot of markets this had

to be reissued with a censored cover to

and you know it's a funny

name and it's a good example of why you

shouldn't you got to be careful with how

you name things because yeah yeah the

compilation is death metal

but the bands featured on it are not

what we would consider death metal by

modern standards uh you know lineup is

running wild one of their first vinyl

appearances i think it's their second technically

technically

uh you've got halloween making an early

vinyl appearance you've got a band

called dark avenger who

uh 15 minutes after this were released

were apparently all run over by a

high-speed german rail train and never

heard from again

and uh then you also had hellhammer this

was one of the few places hellhammer got

a little bit of a vinyl release before

you know the ep and then quickly

changing over to celtic frost

but yeah so

if you just thought you know oh this is

you know called death metal it must be

you know sodom creator destruction no

hellhammer is the only one of the bands

that even would come close to that by

today's definitions of the terms you

know wild and halloween very much you

know german traditional power speed

metal stuff and dark avengers much

closer to that style

than to anything in the hellhammer camp

hellhammer's the real anomaly on this compilation

compilation

and so yeah you know

things were happening in germany bands

were getting you up and running but we

were still in sort of you know the you

know the first ep stages um you know the

first album stages you were still a year

away from halloween's ep uh

uh

you have the first running wild comes

out in 84 the first gravedigger comes

out in 84 so those bands are just kind

of getting their first release starting up

up

kind of like you know in the us scene a

bit but uh you know a lot of attention

it seems was on the u.s scene at first

and you know the german bands would

quickly you know catch up and start

matching them stride for stride but yeah

just another cool

note on where a particular scene was at

as 1984 was happening that album has

always evaded me and now every time it

turns up it's so much money i don't want

to throw down for because i've heard

most of the stuff on it you know but

it's like yeah

yeah the tracks are available elsewhere yeah

yeah

yeah it's it's a cool historical relic

from the early days of noise in the

early days of the german scene starting

to you know really roar to life again

yep for sure

all right marty

take it away

all right my friend scott bought this

tape played it for me and i said my god

that is the most garbage [ __ ] i've ever heard

heard

[Laughter]

granted i just was showing you docking

and rat albums so

when i heard fight fire with fire i'm like

like

this is insane it's so fast it's garbage

this is how can they even do that

it was maybe a week later

that this album clicked and it clicked

hard and it made me want to

i was ripping my kiss posters down off

my wall i was

giving my

uh rat tapes away to friends i was um the

the

it all shifted with this album for me

big time and the one i'm gonna show

after this was another humongous shift

for me but um

this album i think was the gateway drug

to the heavier stuff for a lot of people

during this time

there's no denying it's a classic i

think this is probably my favorite of

the first three

maybe because i heard it first i think i

think wherever people jump on to a band

is kind of where they resonate the most

with it but i don't know i mean i i love

what came before it i love the album

that came after it

but um this to me was

non-stop spinning just

just

absorbing every note and scream and drum

fill and baseline on this thing

and like you know ken mentioned back in

the day

i'm 13 years old i'm not making money to

go to the store and buy

five six albums a trip but

i'd save up my allowance for a month i'd

go maybe buy two tapes that'd be it for

the month

and you know between myself and my

friend scott who was the one that was

really the spearhead of getting me into

a lot of this [ __ ] he had his finger on

the pulse what was going on i was just a

follower at that point but um

between the two of us is where i heard a

lot of this stuff and i would just have

to you know save my money stop eating

lunch at school and saving all that

lunch money to you know get a ride to the

the

music store good old camelot music and

drop every penny i had on whatever tape

was out but

wow what a breakthrough album for me

this is the one that really opened my

mind to

the heavier side of what metal would

become and there was no stopping it from

here like we said it was on a [ __ ]

a flaming railroad train going downhill

is where metal was going it was just speed

speed aggression

aggression evil

evil

it was all coming to a head and i think

metallica was the um

they were right at the tip where they're

at the tip of the spear for sure

so this was a humongous album for me

when it comes to um and that's another

reason why i've always kind of given

metallica a pass

as their last few albums been great

no but i always give them a chance you

know i like that i like the riffs on

dead death magnetic

i i liked about half of their last album

but do they have staying power no is it

going to take me away from spinning that

no it's not but you know my heart has

always got an open open door policy for

a new metallica album hoping that

someday it's going to happen but let's

face it they've made more money

than they'll ever make doing the things

they've done

and they are

now seen as a classic rock band it's

that's the way it is

it's really strange for me to sit here

and say that because it just really it

just makes me realize further that i'm

an old [ __ ]

but um you know

it's the way things go they're not

really seen as heavy anymore which is even

even

more bizarre because at the time i heard

that element blew the [ __ ] doors off

my brain you know

but here we are progress

yeah i think it's

very real similar for me too marty was

that i was actually exposed to metallica

probably around 83-84

um but i was exposed to the first album

kill them all it didn't resonate with me

kill them all didn't quite resonate with

me again just getting into it maybe just

you know wasn't clicking in a 13 year

old brain just yet

um and then uh probably around

probably around 80 45 i was you know

right lightning so

so

i was introduced to that and that

resonated with me a lot more than than

to kill them all

but then you know then we get into

master of puppets and for me master of puppets

puppets

is and will always be metallica's epic

it's amazing it's amazing

i you know i know that's a very

unpopular opinion everybody says

absolutely not you know ride the lightning

lightning

but for me master of puppets

don't they never

never

they've never duplicated that record again

again

not before or after yeah um

master of publix master publix

put them on the world stage everybody in

the world knew who metallica was after

master apocalypse opening for ozzy

helped that yeah oh yeah put them in

front of a lot of people ozzie knew it

you know

ozzy knows music ozzy can't spell his

name anymore that you know his life but

look you know god love him you know i

love ozzy but um you know

he just you know he he

at times it doesn't seem like he can tie

his own shoe

and then but then you ask him about

music from 1979

when he was in sabbath or something and

the guy spitting out all these dates

times and set lists yeah you know

because you know where words fail music

speaks yeah and you know

right it speaks to them and i think a

lot of the a lot of the the aussie thing is

is

there's john osborne and there's ozzy osbourne

osbourne

there's two different people and i think

i think ozzy

granted there's no reason why he should

still be alive these days after all the

[ __ ] he's done but i think a lot of it

the aussie side is an act

i i think there's a lot more going on in

ozzie's head than uh he's 11 over the

years but that could be just me

you know thinking

i just felt like you said it was because

of all the drug

use and

alcohol and yeah

we'll never really know i mean it very

much could be yeah that you know just

all the the substance abuse over the

years has put him in that state i i kind

of agree with marty he's always come

across as very savvy in knowing how to

play that character to maximum effect

when he needs to um

which is i mean he's created an empire

for himself a legacy that's going to

live on long after he does so um but

yeah he's always

he's always known how to you know really

really

read the music world and uh

make good decisions in that sense

but uh but yeah metallica

it's it is funny how much you know

perceptions have changed on them over

time marty cannot

cannot

overstate enough how important those

first three to four metallica albums were

were

not just you know to individual fans not

just to metallica to the entire

development of heavy metal music

the everything looks different if metallica

metallica

had never existed and ride the lightning

was a huge statement i agree with you

ken i think puppets is the opus

but ride the lightning really showed

what a band could do if they started to

really put their nose to the grindstone

and take it very seriously

kill them all you know had made an

impact for sure but

but

uh you know it was you know still very

derivative of what had come before it

was a faster version of a lot of new

wave of british heavy metal it's a good

album i like i've always liked to kill

them oh yeah but

you know if say the band had just fell

apart and disappeared at that point

would that album be remembered as

anything really special earlier than

other than an early example of a us

metal band maybe not

the you know strides they made by the

time this came out in terms of

tightening up their sound writing you know

know

songs you know a little more complexity more

more

black fade to black i mean that is a

very mature out song yeah yeah

and that's there's the word i'm looking

for that yeah they're maturing rapidly

here they still have you know the angry

youthful thrashy thing

nailed to a t

but at the same they're not just

wallowing that they're not just making

kill them all a part two they are

rapidly maturing on this album and it's

really shows through um

while puppets is the opus this is

probably the one i reach for the most if

i want to hear metallica i'll usually

reach for lightning

beyond this one

uh it was the

i'm pretty sure this was the second

metallica album i heard after uh the

first one i heard was and justice for

all which never really clicked for me

but this one

uh yeah this one was always a favorite i

had the

the ride the lightning shirt and i lived

in that shirt in high school um

several days a week it's just that same

shirt people recognized me by that shirt

at times

yeah you really cannot

understate how important this band and you know including this album was to the

you know including this album was to the development of heavy metal in the united

development of heavy metal in the united states this was the band everybody was

states this was the band everybody was already trying to copy and emulate and

already trying to copy and emulate and one up even in 1984 and it just

one up even in 1984 and it just continued after that uh this band pushed

continued after that uh this band pushed other bands to be great this band pushed

other bands to be great this band pushed you know dave mustain and mega death to

you know dave mustain and mega death to be great they pushed exodus to be great

be great they pushed exodus to be great they pushed

they pushed everybody to go up to this standard if

everybody to go up to this standard if they could i think the state even has

they could i think the state even has one writing credit on that album i think

one writing credit on that album i think the last of his riffs was used on one of

the last of his riffs was used on one of those songs

those songs maybe something funny rick says right to

maybe something funny rick says right to know dave mustain

know dave mustain no i think there is a i think there is a

no i think there is a i think there is a machine riff on there i could be wrong

machine riff on there i could be wrong i don't remember it's possible

i don't remember it's possible it says they turned into metallica on

it says they turned into metallica on that album

that album that's kind of true i mean they kind of

that's kind of true i mean they kind of established

established this the songwriting maturity you know

this the songwriting maturity you know they evolved out of youthful piss and

they evolved out of youthful piss and vinegar into something a little bit more

vinegar into something a little bit more mature

yeah hey frederick [Laughter]

[Laughter] all right who is next

all right who is next that would be

that would be okay

okay oh i just showed ride the lightning

oh i just showed ride the lightning who did ride the who showed right now i

who did ride the who showed right now i did martin okay so then went back to ken

did martin okay so then went back to ken yes oh it is me okay

yes oh it is me okay so keeping into a little bit of the

so keeping into a little bit of the extreme

extreme um

um just another uh we'll stay in the

just another uh we'll stay in the country of germany which is another ep

country of germany which is another ep that came out

that came out i had no knowledge of this band and uh

i had no knowledge of this band and uh and

and then

then i think i did buy this at the time only

i think i did buy this at the time only because again the way it looked

because again the way it looked and the way they looked i should say but

sentence of death um thrash definitely more thrash but obviously

more thrash but obviously a lot of speed in this

a lot of speed in this a lot of speed a lot of aggression

a lot of speed a lot of aggression a lot of nasty

a lot of nasty there you go

there you go oh you've got the euro version

oh you've got the euro version um but yeah just you know

um but yeah just you know sheer

madness sheer

sheer german speed thrash technicality

german speed thrash technicality speed metal

speed metal mad butcher

black mass guys got inverted crosses with bullet belts and leather

with bullet belts and leather you know

you know metal but met evil metal you know evil

metal but met evil metal you know evil speed metal and just again another band

speed metal and just again another band that just you know they took the realms

that just you know they took the realms of thrash and they're making it faster

of thrash and they're making it faster and more aggressive and just more

and more aggressive and just more filthy and more

filthy and more fu and more satanic and more you know

fu and more satanic and more you know we're going to tease our hair a little

we're going to tease our hair a little bit but we're also going to wear

bit but we're also going to wear inverted crosses and black lipstick and

inverted crosses and black lipstick and we're going to call ourselves

we're going to call ourselves destruction

destruction banger man just a banger for me and

banger man just a banger for me and total bang

total bang you know another uh another one of those

you know another uh another one of those records that where do you

records that where do you again we know where to put it today but

again we know where to put it today but at the you know at the time that

at the you know at the time that probably was probably considered more

probably was probably considered more thrash i guess yeah that that would be

thrash i guess yeah that that would be not quite like the bathroom

not quite like the bathroom the the

the the morbid tails but

morbid tails but still putting it in thrash you're

still putting it in thrash you're putting it at the the higher you're

putting it at the the higher you're putting that more towards the faster

putting that more towards the faster thrash bands you know what i mean you're

thrash bands you know what i mean you're you're i don't know if it was speed

you're i don't know if it was speed metal an actual thing in 1984 yet yeah

metal an actual thing in 1984 yet yeah um was it a thing yet

um was it a thing yet maybe

maybe yeah i mean excited exciter put out uh

yeah i mean excited exciter put out uh violence and force that year so that

violence and force that year so that they won't their relationship with speed

long lived the loud was 85 wasn't it i don't know for sure i can access the

don't know for sure i can access the oracle here

this is 84 because uh oh violence and force okay yep

force okay yep but um because we had that to show

but um because we had that to show i really enjoy i really enjoy sodom i

i really enjoy i really enjoy sodom i don't think sodom got truly great until

don't think sodom got truly great until they hit persecution mania that's my

they hit persecution mania that's my favorite be all end all sodom album but

favorite be all end all sodom album but early destruction [ __ ] they were a lot

early destruction [ __ ] they were a lot more

more studied musicians mike's riffs

studied musicians mike's riffs were super technical

were super technical um

um infernal overkill was technical but evil

infernal overkill was technical but evil so well written such a great [ __ ]

so well written such a great [ __ ] thrash record and uh eternal devastation

thrash record and uh eternal devastation their sound got a little more treble

their sound got a little more treble heavy but the the riffs got more

heavy but the the riffs got more technical and even under release from

technical and even under release from agony this bizarre song structures they

agony this bizarre song structures they these guys were working out of a

these guys were working out of a different dimension when it come to

different dimension when it come to writing riffs i always loved the first

writing riffs i always loved the first the first three to four destruction

the first three to four destruction albums

albums way better than sodom until persecution

way better than sodom until persecution mania persecution mania is a [ __ ]

mania persecution mania is a [ __ ] mark in [ __ ] german thrash for sure

mark in [ __ ] german thrash for sure for me anyway

for me anyway that's that's the best sound i'm album

that's that's the best sound i'm album ever recorded oh yeah so good if it

ever recorded oh yeah so good if it didn't have the motorhead cover on there

didn't have the motorhead cover on there and they put another original song on

and they put another original song on there it would have been better but um i

there it would have been better but um i like the motorhead cover but it didn't

like the motorhead cover but it didn't need to be there you know it just seems

need to be there you know it just seems like it breaks up the flow of a really

like it breaks up the flow of a really great evil record you know

great evil record you know it's [ __ ] awesome

it's [ __ ] awesome take nothing away from agent orange

take nothing away from agent orange no no i mean i like raging orange too

no no i mean i like raging orange too but that started to get more fun

but that started to get more fun elements there was like some fun type

elements there was like some fun type stuff some tank influence was coming in

stuff some tank influence was coming in to that i don't know whether that was uh

to that i don't know whether that was uh on purpose or not i have no idea but

on purpose or not i have no idea but yeah they didn't have the same

yeah they didn't have the same perspective mania still has that you

perspective mania still has that you know kind of real raw evil you know

know kind of real raw evil you know we'll cut your throat and rape your

we'll cut your throat and rape your mother kind of vibe to it a little bit

mother kind of vibe to it a little bit so agent orange doesn't have that

so agent orange doesn't have that now christ's passion off of persecution

now christ's passion off of persecution meaning what a great [ __ ] song holy

meaning what a great [ __ ] song holy [ __ ]

[ __ ] evil evil as [ __ ] great

evil evil as [ __ ] great all right

all right who ellen's next

who ellen's next all right well uh the discussion set

all right well uh the discussion set this up perfect so yeah we'll go with uh

this up perfect so yeah we'll go with uh this

this canada was fully on board with heavy

canada was fully on board with heavy metal by 1984

metal by 1984 violence and force uh not the greatest

violence and force uh not the greatest heavy metal cover in history

heavy metal cover in history uh i wonder if this is the same pair of

uh i wonder if this is the same pair of hands from uh hellstars uh you know

hands from uh hellstars uh you know later albums distant thunder or the

later albums distant thunder or the heavy metal hand model maybe i'm not

heavy metal hand model maybe i'm not sure

sure but uh

but uh this is just you know

this is just you know early exciter is hard to beat it's fast

early exciter is hard to beat it's fast it's catchy

it's catchy it's heavy

it's heavy they really just you know hit the sweet

they really just you know hit the sweet spot you know of all those elements that

spot you know of all those elements that you wanted to have mixed together

you wanted to have mixed together but this one's my favorite of the

but this one's my favorite of the earlier ones the tracklist is you know

earlier ones the tracklist is you know just insane if i can get it pulled out

just insane if i can get it pulled out of the cover there you know you've got

of the cover there you know you've got saxons of the fire is great uh you've

saxons of the fire is great uh you've got of course it's written in some

got of course it's written in some stupid font i can't read

stupid font i can't read thanks for you guys you have violence

thanks for you guys you have violence and force screaming the night

and force screaming the night destructor swords of darkness

destructor swords of darkness it just goes on and on you really can't

it just goes on and on you really can't go wrong with early exciter period but

go wrong with early exciter period but yeah this is the album for me

yeah this is the album for me and again it just shows that yeah bands

and again it just shows that yeah bands in other places too like canada where

in other places too like canada where again they're really pushing that speed

again they're really pushing that speed envelope they're pushing that heavy

envelope they're pushing that heavy envelope they want to

envelope they want to be as loud wild and crazy as any band on

be as loud wild and crazy as any band on the planet and and they're going for it

the planet and and they're going for it and they're just nailing it on this

and they're just nailing it on this album love some of these violence and

album love some of these violence and force

force how many bands from that era had the

how many bands from that era had the drummer singing and they were a power

drummer singing and they were a power trio right that's very unique

trio right that's very unique it was

it was yeah i mean it's heavy metal maniac just

yeah i mean it's heavy metal maniac just great album what a record that is

great album what a record that is that

that that might be in my top 10 top 15 of all

that might be in my top 10 top 15 of all time is heavy metal maniac

time is heavy metal maniac that one's great absolutely no exciter

that one's great absolutely no exciter is the second greatest metal band to

is the second greatest metal band to come out of canada ever so

all right i'm up next another i heard this album maybe the same week as i

this album maybe the same week as i heard ride the lightning maybe a week or

heard ride the lightning maybe a week or two later

two later and again i said this is garbage what

and again i said this is garbage what the hell is up with those vocals

the hell is up with those vocals what is going on here

what is going on here what is going on here let me tell you

what is going on here let me tell you right here is

right here is that after i opened my mouth and said

that after i opened my mouth and said this sucks this is horrible this is

this sucks this is horrible this is crazy

crazy i listened to it

i listened to it and it clicked with me so hard

and it clicked with me so hard i have never heard

i have never heard a better guitar dude duo

a better guitar dude duo ever

ever i've never heard a better guitar i mean

i've never heard a better guitar i mean there's

there's murray and smith there's you know

murray and smith there's you know headfield and hammett

headfield and hammett there's misstane and

there's misstane and um

um friedman

friedman foot dinner

foot dinner dinner and [ __ ] sherman they are the

dinner and [ __ ] sherman they are the way they wrote this

way they wrote this they wrote two different guitar parts to

they wrote two different guitar parts to come up with these riffs that just

come up with these riffs that just sounded like demons laughing

sounded like demons laughing i don't know but i heard this album and

i don't know but i heard this album and when it finally clicked with me

when it finally clicked with me i was absolutely i did not grow up in a

i was absolutely i did not grow up in a christian household i did not grow up

christian household i did not grow up religious but after i heard this album i

religious but after i heard this album i was sure the devil was real i was

was sure the devil was real i was positive

positive i was drawing upside down crosses on my

i was drawing upside down crosses on my trapper keeper i was um

trapper keeper i was um thinking that i was some sort of an evil

thinking that i was some sort of an evil dude

dude this album

this album set me on a path with true what i

set me on a path with true what i considered true evil this made me think

considered true evil this made me think that venom were [ __ ] posers

that venom were [ __ ] posers i love venom

i love venom but there was such a tongue-in-cheek

but there was such a tongue-in-cheek um

um [ __ ] going on with cronus lyrics

[ __ ] going on with cronus lyrics but this [ __ ] it was right out of what i

but this [ __ ] it was right out of what i was seeing on tv the satanic panic

was seeing on tv the satanic panic um news reports that were on

um news reports that were on television i don't know if you've got

television i don't know if you've got him over in your area of the midwest but

him over in your area of the midwest but jack van impe do you remember him

jack van impe do you remember him ken

ken him and his wife rexella had a weekly

him and his wife rexella had a weekly show they were christian

show they were christian uh evangelical christians that they had

uh evangelical christians that they had here up in northern michigan they're

here up in northern michigan they're based out of michigan they had a weekly

based out of michigan they had a weekly show they were talking about heavy metal

show they were talking about heavy metal being the devil and they mentioned

being the devil and they mentioned merciful fate they mentioned venom they

merciful fate they mentioned venom they came to my school back in the day oh

came to my school back in the day oh geez talk about satanic music and metal

geez talk about satanic music and metal and all this other stuff

and all this other stuff so this

so this really resonated with me as something

really resonated with me as something that i was connecting with

that i was connecting with on television

on television things that were scaring me on

things that were scaring me on television things i was watching on

television things i was watching on horror movies you know the 80s was

horror movies you know the 80s was really starting to dip into that satanic

really starting to dip into that satanic panic [ __ ] thing

panic [ __ ] thing and you know the movies were getting

and you know the movies were getting more scary and um

more scary and um this album is amazing even to this day

this album is amazing even to this day i've listened to this thing probably

i've listened to this thing probably five million times

five million times does not sound old does not sound tired

does not sound old does not sound tired it sounds just as haunting and

it sounds just as haunting and atmospheric and terrifying as the first

atmospheric and terrifying as the first day i heard it um

day i heard it um there isn't a bad song on the album

there isn't a bad song on the album there isn't i mean

there isn't i mean every single song is great

every single song is great i love what went on i love what king did

i love what went on i love what king did on fatal portrait 2 which would have

on fatal portrait 2 which would have been the third merciful fate album

been the third merciful fate album the the i think the the vibe

the the i think the the vibe carried over onto that album to me

carried over onto that album to me that's the best king diamond record i

that's the best king diamond record i know that's a hot take but i like it

know that's a hot take but i like it because it reminds me of merciful fate

because it reminds me of merciful fate uh stylistically sonically the riffs

uh stylistically sonically the riffs were the same the production once king

were the same the production once king diamond moved his production facility to

diamond moved his production facility to texas

texas king diamond and merciful fate albums

king diamond and merciful fate albums that came after lost that atmosphere

that came after lost that atmosphere there was something

there was something um who did this

um who did this uh who produced this

uh who produced this recorded and mixed at easy sound

recorded and mixed at easy sound recording copenhagen uh by henrik lund

recording copenhagen uh by henrik lund engineered by henrik lund and i don't

engineered by henrik lund and i don't know but there was like some weird evil

know but there was like some weird evil [ __ ] going on in the studio as far as

[ __ ] going on in the studio as far as i'm concerned total atmosphere and the

i'm concerned total atmosphere and the great thing about this is kids is this

great thing about this is kids is this was recorded on two inch tape

was recorded on two inch tape listening to this original pressing on a

listening to this original pressing on a record player with good speakers you can

record player with good speakers you can hear the room

hear the room there you don't hear any digital

there you don't hear any digital processing you hear

processing you hear true analog space

true analog space you can hear the room the amps are

you can hear the room the amps are recorded in

recorded in you can hear the [ __ ] it's it might

you can hear the [ __ ] it's it might as well be a satanic temple i don't know

as well be a satanic temple i don't know but it all kind of comes through this

but it all kind of comes through this best deal one of the best albums ever

best deal one of the best albums ever made hands down

made hands down 1984

1984 amazing

absolutely couldn't agree more with all those

couldn't agree more with all those sentiments and

sentiments and comments uh

comments uh personal fate well yeah you know king

personal fate well yeah you know king you know and king did great stuff you

you know and king did great stuff you know in his solo project i mean you know

know in his solo project i mean you know yeah um and

yeah um and you know abigail i mean

you know abigail i mean abigail all of them for me them is is

abigail all of them for me them is is the king diamond right for me is them oh

the king diamond right for me is them oh the first three are amazing first four

the first three are amazing first four are great i mean there's so many good

are great i mean there's so many good albums you know but i agree merciful

albums you know but i agree merciful faith had definitely more of a

faith had definitely more of a evil sound for sure a more

evil sound for sure a more evil and plus it was more rooted i think

evil and plus it was more rooted i think and more of a you know rock and roll

and more of a you know rock and roll hard rock had a little more of that

hard rock had a little more of that routine it was completely coming off

routine it was completely coming off melissa

melissa um had more of a hard rock but again a

um had more of a hard rock but again a very evil hard rock absolutely you know

very evil hard rock absolutely you know best cover art on a heavy metal album

best cover art on a heavy metal album possibly ever yep commercial safe wait

possibly ever yep commercial safe wait first book cover the only thing i'd say

first book cover the only thing i'd say a different marty uh this one it took

a different marty uh this one it took less than five seconds for this album to

less than five seconds for this album to click with me put it on for the first

click with me put it on for the first time dropped the needle

time dropped the needle heard that first you know just opening

heard that first you know just opening guitar lick on a dangerous meeting and i

guitar lick on a dangerous meeting and i remember just the hairs on my arms and

remember just the hairs on my arms and neck just standing up and just thinking

neck just standing up and just thinking to myself

to myself oh [ __ ] this is gonna be good

oh [ __ ] this is gonna be good yep do you think it was you know because

yep do you think it was you know because the music says they should have been

the music says they should have been bigger

bigger was it maybe because of that king

was it maybe because of that king diamond satanic

diamond satanic imagery that he portrayed i think i

imagery that he portrayed i think i think he's lived

think he's lived i think king diamond's vocals has been

i think king diamond's vocals has been the make or break for that band people

the make or break for that band people either love his vocals or they hate his

either love his vocals or they hate his vocals and the people that hate his

vocals and the people that hate his vocals really [ __ ] hate his vocals

vocals really [ __ ] hate his vocals yeah there are people that are

yeah there are people that are a lot of metal fans you know yeah they i

a lot of metal fans you know yeah they i mean this was

mean this was on the

on the the official story too is that you know

the official story too is that you know when they came back you know to start

when they came back you know to start work on the third album that

work on the third album that and i always forget which guitar is

and i always forget which guitar is whether it was sherman or no sherman he

whether it was sherman or no sherman he wanted more he did fate he wanted to do

wanted more he did fate he wanted to do more hair metal yeah that you know the

more hair metal yeah that you know the ideas he was bringing in were very

ideas he was bringing in were very almost not almost glammy you know very

almost not almost glammy you know very he he really wanted to go in the

he he really wanted to go in the hairspray direction and make something

hairspray direction and make something that was going to be like

that was going to be like he was going for like you know the

he was going for like you know the athletic workout where

athletic workout where weird bandanas around his [ __ ] elbow

weird bandanas around his [ __ ] elbow and yeah yeah yeah because yeah then

and yeah yeah yeah because yeah then yeah i followed him to uh followed king

yeah i followed him to uh followed king you know to king diamond and yeah then

you know to king diamond and yeah then the other guy did the fate album and

the other guy did the fate album and yeah that's a very very different

yeah that's a very very different sounding album from anything merciful

sounding album from anything merciful uh did

uh did so yeah between king's voice and yeah

so yeah between king's voice and yeah just a split in musical direction

just a split in musical direction yeah the band they didn't last as long

yeah the band they didn't last as long as they should have and

as they should have and maybe that was you know maybe that's

maybe that was you know maybe that's something that made them

something that made them more legendary they made these two

more legendary they made these two fantastic albums and then

fantastic albums and then then they were gone they didn't stick

then they were gone they didn't stick around long enough to

around long enough to you know crank out a black album and a

you know crank out a black album and a load and a reload and all this kind of

load and a reload and all this kind of stuff that you know other bands did

stuff that you know other bands did it's amazing to me you listen to this

it's amazing to me you listen to this it's like all of the bands

it's like all of the bands all the members in the band brought

all the members in the band brought something to it that made it what it was

something to it that made it what it was if you listen to like what king was

if you listen to like what king was doing on that uh black rose cd they're

doing on that uh black rose cd they're doing

doing golden earring covers they're sounding

golden earring covers they're sounding the the originals that they had sound

the the originals that they had sound like deep purple

like deep purple i mean they were very much hard rock

i mean they were very much hard rock influenced

influenced and doing stuff like that it's just it's

and doing stuff like that it's just it's just weird how the stars aligned where

just weird how the stars aligned where everybody got together and were you know

everybody got together and were you know denner and sherman together made that

denner and sherman together made that [ __ ] sound together with their

[ __ ] sound together with their guitars yeah it just

guitars yeah it just and then even when they got back it was

and then even when they got back it was like the 25th anniversary of melissa and

like the 25th anniversary of melissa and that him and

that him and dinner got together in a room we're like

dinner got together in a room we're like playing the songs together

playing the songs together it's just watching the rift structures

it's just watching the rift structures and how those riffs like lock together

and how those riffs like lock together and it's like those two playing in a

and it's like those two playing in a room together just like we know this you

room together just like we know this you know this is it was like this weird

know this is it was like this weird connection it was really kind of

connection it was really kind of emotional to watch i thought anyway

emotional to watch i thought anyway because i'm a big fan i'm a big fan of

because i'm a big fan i'm a big fan of that old

that old merciful face [ __ ] they're like i said

merciful face [ __ ] they're like i said my favorite guitar duo no hands down

my favorite guitar duo no hands down hands down the best they're so

hands down the best they're so overlooked it's kind of a drag but

overlooked it's kind of a drag but the rhythm section should not go

the rhythm section should not go overlooked you know kim rose's drumming

overlooked you know kim rose's drumming is just you know crazy good uh

is just you know crazy good uh throughout merciful fate's catalog they

throughout merciful fate's catalog they yeah everything just you know

yeah everything just you know they had all the pieces timmy hansen was

they had all the pieces timmy hansen was a beast on the base and he would throw

a beast on the base and he would throw in these nice little

in these nice little runs and fills in there that really cut

runs and fills in there that really cut through

through that wall of evil to really

that wall of evil to really make uh sell that melodic side it was

make uh sell that melodic side it was really cool we're a great band

really cool we're a great band quick story about that

quick story about that 2012 when i went with sinai to kill town

2012 when i went with sinai to kill town death fest my good buddies in cyanide

death fest my good buddies in cyanide played in denmark copenhagen denmark

played in denmark copenhagen denmark uh the drummer and i andy went to

uh the drummer and i andy went to michael denner's record store nice

michael denner's record store nice and uh he was there when we went in

and uh he was there when we went in he was there

he was there and we're like we walk and i'm like

and we're like we walk and i'm like and you're michael denner and he was on

and you're michael denner and he was on the he was on his cell phone talking

the he was on his cell phone talking about himself he kind of waved to us and

about himself he kind of waved to us and then we're the only ones in the store

then we're the only ones in the store there's nobody else in the store just me

there's nobody else in the store just me and annie he's talking on the phone

and annie he's talking on the phone talking on the phone so after about 10

talking on the phone so after about 10 50 million andy just start flipping

50 million andy just start flipping through records and whatnot he gets fun

through records and whatnot he gets fun hey sorry guys how are you hey

hey sorry guys how are you hey huge fan man you know we shake his head

huge fan man you know we shake his head oh thanks you know

oh thanks you know and then andy says he goes you know

and then andy says he goes you know where are you guys from we're like well

where are you guys from we're like well we're from the states where andy says

we're from the states where andy says i'm here with my band cyanide because

i'm here with my band cyanide because i've heard of you guys he's like you

i've heard of you guys he's like you guys are playing that show here and

guys are playing that show here and andy's like mind blown you know

andy's like mind blown you know he just died right there he's like are

he just died right there he's like are you you've

you you've heard a [ __ ] cyanide just like him

heard a [ __ ] cyanide just like him out of the store

out of the store yeah you know he like almost stated and

yeah you know he like almost stated and then um i'm just like man you know you

then um i'm just like man you know you you're a [ __ ] god and then he's like

you're a [ __ ] god and then he's like i was just on the phone with hank

i was just on the phone with hank sherman that's what i was on the phone

sherman that's what i was on the phone with and we're talking about doing a

with and we're talking about doing a project together meeting and you're like

project together meeting and you're like what's like what what seriously you were

what's like what what seriously you were so we walk into michael denner's store

so we walk into michael denner's store he's on the phone with hank sherman on

he's on the phone with hank sherman on his cell phone and then he knows cyanide

his cell phone and then he knows cyanide so of course i buy 200 worth of dumb

so of course i buy 200 worth of dumb heavy metal records i didn't need from

heavy metal records i didn't need from him and he like almost kissed my hand

him and he like almost kissed my hand because i spent 200 bucks in his store

because i spent 200 bucks in his store but i got some good stuff to do with

but i got some good stuff to do with some good vinyl and yeah and then he

some good vinyl and yeah and then he took a picture with me andy so yeah

took a picture with me andy so yeah that's [ __ ] cool man that's awesome

that's [ __ ] cool man that's awesome man yeah what did like the whole that

man yeah what did like the whole that we had a great trip with that was like

we had a great trip with that was like one that was kind of like icy on the

one that was kind of like icy on the cake that we got to meet [ __ ] michael

cake that we got to meet [ __ ] michael denner in his own language we have a lot

denner in his own language we have a lot of merciful fate rarities or not really

of merciful fate rarities or not really too much he did not actually you know

too much he did not actually you know what he did have though so um i had an

what he did have though so um i had an original copy of i don't know if you

original copy of i don't know if you guys know the band wasted halloween the

guys know the band wasted halloween the night of yep

night of yep i had an original copy i gave it to my

i had an original copy i gave it to my buddy scott inside

buddy scott inside years ago he had the repress

years ago he had the repress and i had the record in my hand he goes

and i had the record in my hand he goes were you gonna buy that and i said yeah

were you gonna buy that and i said yeah he goes go ahead and put that one back

he goes go ahead and put that one back i'll get you one i got a whole set of he

i'll get you one i got a whole set of he must have had like a hundred i'm gonna

must have had like a hundred i'm gonna stack

stack like a hundred of these represses of the

like a hundred of these represses of the wasted halloween the night he's i'll get

wasted halloween the night he's i'll get you to clean the cop you can put that

you to clean the cop you can put that one back yeah

one back yeah yeah but no just

yeah but no just dude was freaking awesome and he was

dude was freaking awesome and he was you know he's a metal head you guys you

you know he's a metal head you guys you know you could just tell you know you

know you could just tell you know you just like ever decided you guys were

just like ever decided you guys were playing that kill talent thing with all

playing that kill talent thing with all those death metal bands right he's and

those death metal bands right he's and he's like yeah

he's like yeah he's like yeah he's like yeah you know

he's like yeah he's like yeah you know i'm not really into the heavy stuff like

i'm not really into the heavy stuff like that he's like yeah that's cool man it's

that he's like yeah that's cool man it's [ __ ] awesome you know and he's just

[ __ ] awesome you know and he's just being like a total dude you know total

being like a total dude you know total metal dude in his record store you know

metal dude in his record store you know i'm like but you're

i'm like but you're michael denner well i'm sure he gets a

michael denner well i'm sure he gets a lot of people flocking to his store

lot of people flocking to his store because he's michael denner oh metal

because he's michael denner oh metal heads no you know they're sure he's just

heads no you know they're sure he's just so cool yeah it was [ __ ] awesome man

so cool yeah it was [ __ ] awesome man i wouldn't like my pants i didn't fix my

i wouldn't like my pants i didn't fix my panties if i stood there and he was

panties if i stood there and he was standing on me

standing on me and i just i was this guy at that point

and i just i was this guy at that point i didn't know what to do we were still

i didn't know what to do we were still in the drunken stupor from the night

in the drunken stupor from the night before so i wasn't quite sure what to

before so i wasn't quite sure what to make of it so i'm just like you know i

make of it so i'm just like you know i just remember he got a phone and i'm

just remember he got a phone and i'm like

like and you're michael jenner and he's like

and you're michael jenner and he's like yeah sorry i was like

yeah sorry i was like yeah i mean he's like then yeah when he

yeah i mean he's like then yeah when he said he knew something he's like well

said he knew something he's like well i'm just on the phone with hank that's

i'm just on the phone with hank that's why i was on the phone

why i was on the phone get out of here can i just buy these

get out of here can i just buy these records

you know yeah i mean andy didn't know to andy bought like a you i yelled at andy

andy bought like a you i yelled at andy i'm like that's all you bought he bought

i'm like that's all you bought he bought like one he bought like a used doc but

like one he bought like a used doc but that's it that's all you bought but come

that's it that's all you bought but come on and he's like i don't know what to do

on and he's like i don't know what to do he's like

he's like i didn't even look at anything he's like

i didn't even look at anything he's like you know let's just go

a couple of grown men acting like a couple of school girls

couple of school girls you know thanks for taking the picture

you know thanks for taking the picture anyways sorry you're up

okay um so nobody has shown this record yet

nobody has shown this record yet so i'm gonna go ahead and show it just

so i'm gonna go ahead and show it just because we've mentioned it and um you

because we've mentioned it and um you know

my favorite band of all time 19 where's power saver i knew you were very good i

power saver i knew you were very good i was holding off yeah i was not going to

was holding off yeah i was not going to show it no way i was going to pick that

show it no way i was going to pick that over you

over you um

um my favorite iron maiden record of all

my favorite iron maiden record of all time um this is my favorite uh that's

time um this is my favorite uh that's fair

fair second uh you know

second uh you know you know i do like number the beast and

you know i do like number the beast and you know

you know um

um peace of mind you know i love uh

peace of mind you know i love uh somewhere in time

somewhere in time um this one takes the cake for me i mean

um this one takes the cake for me i mean you know i i think it's just because

you know i i think it's just because that um i wasn't exposed to maiden

that um i wasn't exposed to maiden earlier though i was exposed to made

earlier though i was exposed to made with diana uh didn't quite resonate with

with diana uh didn't quite resonate with me but when bruce bruce

me but when bruce bruce was singing on this

was singing on this i heard bruce bruce

i heard bruce bruce and um

yeah bruce bruce resonated with me and uh you

bruce bruce resonated with me and uh you know probably my one of my

know probably my one of my probably my second favorite vocalist of

probably my second favorite vocalist of all time is bruce dickinson

all time is bruce dickinson i think

i think honestly i feel if it wasn't for him

honestly i feel if it wasn't for him joining iron maiden

joining iron maiden i don't know if iron maiden would be

i don't know if iron maiden would be today

today where they are if it wasn't for bruce

where they are if it wasn't for bruce joining right did paul diano have these

joining right did paul diano have these staying powers vocalist as bruce

staying powers vocalist as bruce dickinson no i don't think that's an

dickinson no i don't think that's an interesting what if scenario for sure

interesting what if scenario for sure i think uh

i think uh i think bruce

i think bruce don't get me wrong you know

don't get me wrong you know steve harris writes to me yeah steve

steve harris writes to me yeah steve harris steve harris is the man

harris steve harris is the man he writes the stuff i get it but

he writes the stuff i get it but somebody's got to sing it right

somebody's got to sing it right and um you know bruce saying it right

and um you know bruce saying it right and and you know um

and and you know um this is the the epitome but you know

this is the the epitome but you know although these guys were

although these guys were from the uk in in

from the uk in in breaking i'm thinking breaking out of

breaking i'm thinking breaking out of that new wave of british heavy metal

that new wave of british heavy metal style with more of a heavy metal go

style with more of a heavy metal go maybe they sensed like alan said how us

maybe they sensed like alan said how us bands were were breaking the the mold of

bands were were breaking the the mold of new wave of british heavy metal bringing

new wave of british heavy metal bringing the us to the forefront of the metal

the us to the forefront of the metal scene i think made may have taken a a

scene i think made may have taken a a couple of paragraphs out of that page

couple of paragraphs out of that page and said you know what we want to change

and said you know what we want to change it up a little here we're going to

it up a little here we're going to create something called power slave

create something called power slave and uh yeah

and uh yeah the epitome of what a heavy metal record

the epitome of what a heavy metal record should be his power slave

should be his power slave and uh noah sander butts

and uh noah sander butts my favorite of all time the iron maiden

my favorite of all time the iron maiden record is power slave ryan the ancient

record is power slave ryan the ancient mariner the duelist

mariner the duelist um two minutes to midnight

um two minutes to midnight what else is there um ace is high inks

what else is there um ace is high inks is high uh just

is high uh just [ __ ] i know a lot of people like back

[ __ ] i know a lot of people like back in the village

in the village back in the village swinging the blit

back in the village swinging the blit with a sweet nice swing in the blade

with a sweet nice swing in the blade yeah something

yeah something flash for the blade i'm going to say

flash for the blade i'm going to say national blade

national blade is the best punch

is the best punch yep

yep flash of the blade is the best bruce

flash of the blade is the best bruce dickinson song ever sorry

dickinson song ever sorry i love that song so [ __ ] much and

i love that song so [ __ ] much and it's such a deep cut on this

it's such a deep cut on this so good

i think my favorite song is two minutes to midnight i gotta be honest two

to midnight i gotta be honest two minutes to midnight is probably my

minutes to midnight is probably my favorite song on the record but

favorite song on the record but god damn i mean

god damn i mean it's stacked it's literally

it's stacked it's literally just you know if if you don't like

just you know if if you don't like making guys i'm so people watching i

making guys i'm so people watching i don't know how many people are right but

don't know how many people are right but if you don't like iron babies there's 73

if you don't like iron babies there's 73 on right now everybody i know i don't

on right now everybody i know i don't know what to tell you man you're not

know what to tell you man you're not listening to the right maiden then

listening to the right maiden then because how can you not like iron maiden

because how can you not like iron maiden that's true if you're a metalhead and

that's true if you're a metalhead and you don't like iron maiden there's

you don't like iron maiden there's something wrong yeah i don't get that

something wrong yeah i don't get that it's kind of like you know i'll say the

it's kind of like you know i'll say the same thing about metallica if you get

same thing about metallica if you get if you like metal you've got you gotta

if you like metal you've got you gotta you gotta like something by metallica

you gotta like something by metallica maybe not every single hour maybe you

maybe not every single hour maybe you don't love every album but

don't love every album but it's metallica

it's metallica it's iron

it's iron freaking maiden for crying out now i'm a

freaking maiden for crying out now i'm a little biased they do no wrong here in

little biased they do no wrong here in the house of ken you know they kind of

the house of ken you know they kind of like halloween for marty halloween could

like halloween for marty halloween could poop and record themselves pooping on a

poop and record themselves pooping on a record and marty's gonna say it's the

record and marty's gonna say it's the greatest thing you've ever got recorded

greatest thing you've ever got recorded i mean they're i mean what is what is

i mean they're i mean what is what is halloween they're the german iron maiden

halloween they're the german iron maiden let's be honest

let's be honest and and just to be clear out there folks

and and just to be clear out there folks halloween didn't release anything in

halloween didn't release anything in 1984 so you're safe you've got to pass

1984 so you're safe you've got to pass tonight i'd be showing that [ __ ]

but i will say this is an amazing album and

and my favorite maiden is killers

my favorite maiden is killers because that's where i started with

because that's where i started with maiden sure but did deanno have the

maiden sure but did deanno have the vocal prowess and the endurance to go on

vocal prowess and the endurance to go on to do what bruce did

to do what bruce did hell no i think i think diana was

hell no i think i think diana was probably more in league with a blaze

probably more in league with a blaze bailey type of singer they picked blaise

bailey type of singer they picked blaise bailey because he's a friend

bailey because he's a friend and he could not do two and a half hours

and he could not do two and a half hours it killed it wrecked his voice he's a

it killed it wrecked his voice he's a good singer but he is not an iron maiden

good singer but he is not an iron maiden singer bruce dickinson

singer bruce dickinson was the model for what iron maiden

was the model for what iron maiden became and um

became and um you know like remember the beast that

you know like remember the beast that was their big breakthrough album

was their big breakthrough album and it's got some crap songs on it i'm

and it's got some crap songs on it i'm not gonna lie i like a lot of it

not gonna lie i like a lot of it but it's got some garbage on it peace of

but it's got some garbage on it peace of mind much better album

mind much better album i even like the deep cuts on it but it's

i even like the deep cuts on it but it's like this album here it all came

like this album here it all came together the songwriting fell together

together the songwriting fell together ace is high what a barn burner of a

ace is high what a barn burner of a [ __ ] start off track what a barn

[ __ ] start off track what a barn burner two minutes to midnight following

burner two minutes to midnight following up that barn burner with an epic you

up that barn burner with an epic you know mid-paced

know mid-paced tale of a song

tale of a song um

um lost for words instrumental flash the

lost for words instrumental flash the blade my favorite this is my that's my

blade my favorite this is my that's my favorite song on this album it is such a

favorite song on this album it is such a great song they never

great song they never the duelist is great

the duelist is great um

um i think back in the village is kind of a

i think back in the village is kind of a throwaway track

throwaway track um but the rest of it power slave ryan

um but the rest of it power slave ryan the ancient mariner

the ancient mariner they end on [ __ ]

they end on [ __ ] typical iron maiden epics this is a

typical iron maiden epics this is a great [ __ ] album there's no denying i

great [ __ ] album there's no denying i knew you're gonna show up ken

knew you're gonna show up ken for sure

for sure get it if you don't have it that's right

get it if you don't have it that's right yeah i i didn't pull it because i would

yeah i i didn't pull it because i would not have i was not about to put that on

not have i was not about to put that on camera before ken and that's that that

camera before ken and that's that that was the entire reason i picked that

was the entire reason i picked that image for the thumbnail for tonight's

image for the thumbnail for tonight's video as i wanted uh couldn't think of a

video as i wanted uh couldn't think of a better one to fit having ken on to

better one to fit having ken on to discuss this year with that album in the

discuss this year with that album in the mix and i i do want to like throw back

mix and i i do want to like throw back into this i i talked about in my own

into this i i talked about in my own vaden review of sinjitsu

vaden review of sinjitsu what does this album have that sinjitsu

what does this album have that sinjitsu does not have it's got martin birch

produced by martin birch he would go in and make this band

and make this band he would make bruce sing a million times

he would make bruce sing a million times until he got the take he wanted

until he got the take he wanted kevin shirley is a very much a yes man

kevin shirley is a very much a yes man which i think at this point in maiden's

which i think at this point in maiden's career they want that

career they want that they want someone to come and say oh

they want someone to come and say oh we're mate we're gonna play live and

we're mate we're gonna play live and do whatever we're gonna use every riff

do whatever we're gonna use every riff and we're just gonna mumble through this

and we're just gonna mumble through this okay great iron maiden i'll record it

okay great iron maiden i'll record it and it's just

and it's just i listen to maiden records now the new

i listen to maiden records now the new senjitsu was 85 minutes of the same

senjitsu was 85 minutes of the same [ __ ] song over and over and over it's

[ __ ] song over and over and over it's boring

boring and it's just

and it's just there isn't a producer there pushing

there isn't a producer there pushing them like

them like no that riff is a riff you played on the

no that riff is a riff you played on the last album that harmony is the same

last album that harmony is the same harmony you used two song two albums ago

harmony you used two song two albums ago that that

that that they don't have someone pushing them and

they don't have someone pushing them and they i granted they're old guys they

they i granted they're old guys they don't want to be pushed anymore they

don't want to be pushed anymore they proved their point

proved their point right and people like the new sen jitsu

right and people like the new sen jitsu i feel bad for saying anything bad about

i feel bad for saying anything bad about it it's just it's boring it's so boring

it it's just it's boring it's so boring and it bums me out i'm glad they're

and it bums me out i'm glad they're still doing it but it's just not it's

still doing it but it's just not it's not power slave it's not somewhere in

not power slave it's not somewhere in time which is another great [ __ ]

time which is another great [ __ ] album holy [ __ ] what a great album

album holy [ __ ] what a great album anyway maybe one bad song on on uh

anyway maybe one bad song on on uh somewhere in time yeah uh heaven can

somewhere in time yeah uh heaven can wait bad chorus i don't know what he

wait bad chorus i don't know what he says but i like that song i like the

says but i like that song i like the song i don't like the chorus if it was a

song i don't like the chorus if it was a different chorus the song is good but

different chorus the song is good but what's the one bad song that you think

what's the one bad song that you think on that one

on that one that's what i'm saying that that record

that's what i'm saying that that record does not have a bad song on it that's

does not have a bad song on it that's the only song i would consider bad but

the only song i would consider bad but it's really not that bad it's not that

it's really not that bad it's not that bad yeah you know that's not the same

bad yeah you know that's not the same chorus it's a good record the summer and

chorus it's a good record the summer and time is is uh you know obviously a

time is is uh you know obviously a little more a little more uh

little more a little more uh froggy i guess you can say

froggy i guess you can say with their musical venture in somewhere

with their musical venture in somewhere in time but you know the leads on you

in time but you know the leads on you know wasted years somewhere in time

know wasted years somewhere in time uh the loneliness of the long distance

uh the loneliness of the long distance run what a great song and the heaviest

run what a great song and the heaviest song what's what's the heaviest son that

song what's what's the heaviest son that um

um sea of madness oh yeah

sea of madness oh yeah that bass line that's probably one of

that bass line that's probably one of the heaviest riffs that iron man never

the heaviest riffs that iron man never wrote that they ever wrote was uh

wrote that they ever wrote was uh that sea of madness was that that

that sea of madness was that that bassline it's probably one of the

bassline it's probably one of the heaviest songs ever broken

heaviest songs ever broken yeah that's a that's a good [ __ ] word

yeah that's a that's a good [ __ ] word rock and metal plus asks so were wolves

rock and metal plus asks so were wolves being big in america no they were not

being big in america no they were not i have i have a couple of those big

i have i have a couple of those big records but no they were not thinking

records but no they were not thinking about they were not big for sure

about they were not big for sure okay wait bailey's original band right

okay wait bailey's original band right yeah is that why he asked that yep

yeah is that why he asked that yep i'm okay with that

i'm okay with that yeah

yeah yeah i mean he was a good singer he just

yeah i mean he was a good singer he just wasn't a good maiden singer right

wasn't a good maiden singer right yeah now i think something just to wrap

yeah now i think something just to wrap up with iron maiden i think a good

up with iron maiden i think a good follow-up to y'all's you know

follow-up to y'all's you know observation that yeah would they have

observation that yeah would they have would dino have been able to

would dino have been able to have done the same things for maiden

have done the same things for maiden i i think you see diana's limitations

i i think you see diana's limitations after he left iron maiden i mean he was

after he left iron maiden i mean he was in a lot of projects from gog magog to

in a lot of projects from gog magog to paul dano's battle zone

paul dano's battle zone and none of those projects ever really

and none of those projects ever really got any traction and yeah battlezone had

got any traction and yeah battlezone had i mean

you know they did you know he has a little later it was you know in a band

little later it was you know in a band called you know killers and

called you know killers and you know there were always decent tunes

you know there were always decent tunes here and there but i you know they never

here and there but i you know they never broke you know paul dano never broke

broke you know paul dano never broke through again with any of those other

through again with any of those other things and uh

things and uh you listen to him sing on those albums

you listen to him sing on those albums compared to you know bruce singing on

compared to you know bruce singing on yeah you know the iron maiden albums and

yeah you know the iron maiden albums and yeah there's you know

yeah there's you know there's no contest you know that you

there's no contest you know that you know they they had the front man to make

know they they had the front man to make them

them you know an arena band for the ages uh

you know an arena band for the ages uh in bruce and they probably didn't have

in bruce and they probably didn't have that in paul as much and i love those

that in paul as much and i love those first two iron maiden albums they're two

first two iron maiden albums they're two of my favorites uh both of them the

of my favorites uh both of them the self-titled and killers

you know you like chocolate and you like peanut butter but maybe you don't like

peanut butter but maybe you don't like them together

them together and that's what it was kind of like that

and that's what it was kind of like that for it was kind of like that for iron

for it was kind of like that for iron maiden with bruce because bruce singing

maiden with bruce because bruce singing bruce bruce singing samson yep mm-hmm

bruce bruce singing samson yep mm-hmm you know

that was a beautiful record at best headhunter was that the name of the

headhunter was that the name of the album that was a great album i had

album that was a great album i had tactics or what was it uh head-on and uh

tactics or what was it uh head-on and uh something head-on and uh

something head-on and uh that's the one great album i used to

that's the one great album i used to have that cd i can't find it i don't

have that cd i can't find it i don't know what it is it was just okay for me

know what it is it was just okay for me and it broke if you play it now it's

and it broke if you play it now it's even like you can't even tell it's bruce

even like you can't even tell it's bruce dickinson it's like there's a lot of

dickinson it's like there's a lot of homo erotic lyrics on that album too

homo erotic lyrics on that album too it's really strange

it's really strange it has some weird tendencies

it has some weird tendencies yeah yeah you know bruce can you see you

yeah yeah you know bruce can you see you in the band

yeah bruce had sung in a band called speed you know before samson that did a

speed you know before samson that did a seven inch and uh

seven inch and uh yeah it's kind of pedestrian you know it

yeah it's kind of pedestrian you know it it's obviously a big rarity because you

it's obviously a big rarity because you know it's got him singing on it but

know it's got him singing on it but musically it's

musically it's really sort of you know a low-tier new

really sort of you know a low-tier new wave of british heavy metal stuff if it

wave of british heavy metal stuff if it didn't have bruce dickinson on it nobody

didn't have bruce dickinson on it nobody would care about that speed single it it

would care about that speed single it it would be an afterthought yeah yeah

would be an afterthought yeah yeah yeah yeah but like you said you know you

yeah yeah but like you said you know you just put the right ingredients together

just put the right ingredients together um his vocals with maiden's music and

um his vocals with maiden's music and that that was it you know with steve

that that was it you know with steve ayers and

ayers and bruce dickinson which by the i guess

bruce dickinson which by the i guess they like

they like apparently like early in their christian

apparently like early in their christian i don't know if this is still the case

i don't know if this is still the case but they would literally want to like

but they would literally want to like choke each other in the studio like they

choke each other in the studio like they were they would like have to be

were they would like have to be separated apparently while they were

separated apparently while they were recording

recording steve wrote the superior songs i mean

steve wrote the superior songs i mean bruce would bring songs like bring your

bruce would bring songs like bring your daughter to the slaughter to the table

daughter to the slaughter to the table which they release as a single and that

which they release as a single and that song is [ __ ] garbage that's a hot

song is [ __ ] garbage that's a hot garbage bag

garbage bag terrible

terrible hot garbage

hot garbage bring your daughter to the slaughter let

bring your daughter to the slaughter let her go let her go

her go let her go let her go

let her go steve harris is the man i mean steve

steve harris is the man i mean steve harris is the man bruce's songs aren't

harris is the man bruce's songs aren't as good they're just not steve's the man

as good they're just not steve's the man he's

he's yeah

yeah anyway who's next that was that was ken

anyway who's next that was that was ken and it is alan's turn and talk a lot

and it is alan's turn and talk a lot because i have to go pee i'll right back

because i have to go pee i'll right back if i ran out of things to say the turkey

if i ran out of things to say the turkey can take over

oh it moves too i didn't realize it moved it sings and dances this hat does

moved it sings and dances this hat does everything you could ever want a hat to

everything you could ever want a hat to do oh wow wow where did you get that

do oh wow wow where did you get that thing

thing it's a walmart where else

i got it years ago we were walking through walmart just picking up a few

through walmart just picking up a few odds and ends we were going to the

odds and ends we were going to the checkout line

checkout line and my wife said could you she just

and my wife said could you she just turned me like can you believe that

turned me like can you believe that horrible singing turkey hat they had

horrible singing turkey hat they had back there on display and i hadn't seen

back there on display and i hadn't seen it i just was just like

it i just was just like so i just turned and looked i was just

so i just turned and looked i was just like they had a singing trick he had on

like they had a singing trick he had on display and my wife literally put her

display and my wife literally put her hand in her face and i heard about her

hand in her face and i heard about her oh god why did i tell him about it

oh god why did i tell him about it because i turned around i did a u-turn

because i turned around i did a u-turn right there you know out of the checkout

right there you know out of the checkout lane went back and found it just like

lane went back and found it just like oh you're coming home with daddy

oh you're coming home with daddy and uh so yep

and uh so yep we use it every year much to her

we use it every year much to her shame very cool

shame very cool i gotta have a little fun during the

i gotta have a little fun during the holidays for sure but yes let me get

holidays for sure but yes let me get back on track here and uh we'll discuss

back on track here and uh we'll discuss another album while uh marty can jump

another album while uh marty can jump back in hey 194 we've covered we've

back in hey 194 we've covered we've already covered enough top-notch you

already covered enough top-notch you know

know heavy metal albums you know to fill two

heavy metal albums you know to fill two or three years and we've still got a

or three years and we've still got a bunch that no one's mentioned yet

bunch that no one's mentioned yet including

including queens rights the warnings that's right

queens rights the warnings that's right uh you know you know this banjo they had

uh you know you know this banjo they had the ep come out the previous year in 83.

the ep come out the previous year in 83. uh but this album is already you know a

uh but this album is already you know a light year ahead of the ep ep is great i

light year ahead of the ep ep is great i love it

love it you know it's very maiden and priest

you know it's very maiden and priest influence stuff but it's got jeff tate

influence stuff but it's got jeff tate you know with an amazing voice but you

you know with an amazing voice but you know the songwriting here they're

know the songwriting here they're they're leaving behind all that kind of

they're leaving behind all that kind of fantasy stuff and going you in a much

fantasy stuff and going you in a much you know different you know directions

you know different you know directions almost you know sci-fi overtones which

almost you know sci-fi overtones which is unusual for heavy metal at that point

is unusual for heavy metal at that point uh you know really interesting

uh you know really interesting production on it every song kind of has

production on it every song kind of has its own identity they're well written

its own identity they're well written the playing is great

the playing is great tate's vocals especially through this

tate's vocals especially through this era are just uh incomparable and he's

era are just uh incomparable and he's the only singer i can think of off the

the only singer i can think of off the top of my head that could rival

top of my head that could rival you know michael kiskey in his prime

you know michael kiskey in his prime and and this is just you know their

and and this is just you know their first full-length album and this is you

first full-length album and this is you know

know they obviously you know go on to mega

they obviously you know go on to mega stardom you know a few albums later and

stardom you know a few albums later and this album's already better than what

this album's already better than what i don't know 80 90 percent of bands

i don't know 80 90 percent of bands would ever make in their career in the

would ever make in their career in the 1980s they're already just absolutely

1980s they're already just absolutely putting together a gem of an album

putting together a gem of an album uh and they haven't even really found

uh and they haven't even really found their footing as a band yet uh so yeah

their footing as a band yet uh so yeah uh it's not my favorite queen strike

uh it's not my favorite queen strike album uh

album uh for that i'd have to go with rage for

for that i'd have to go with rage for order oh

order oh this one is

this one is this one is a fantastic album in its own

this one is a fantastic album in its own right it's different queens right you

right it's different queens right you know they changed you know very rapidly

know they changed you know very rapidly over those early albums and you just

over those early albums and you just can't go wrong and the warning's just

can't go wrong and the warning's just another one of these just

another one of these just hallmark albums from 1984 uh this year

hallmark albums from 1984 uh this year is so loaded it's just insane the stuff

is so loaded it's just insane the stuff that you know what i like about that

that you know what i like about that record is that it's just still got a

record is that it's just still got a piece of that power metal vibe to it too

piece of that power metal vibe to it too sure mm-hmm

sure mm-hmm a little bit of that power metal in

a little bit of that power metal in there you know that's a great

there you know that's a great observation ken it sure does you know

observation ken it sure does you know taking from that first ep that still got

taking from that first ep that still got a piece that the little piece that

a piece that the little piece that they're going off into something

they're going off into something different obviously but it's a little

different obviously but it's a little bit of that power metal in there

bit of that power metal in there i think that's what i like most about

i think that's what i like most about that record but jeff tate man

that record but jeff tate man he's a world-class singer oh totally oh

he's a world-class singer oh totally oh yeah yeah the guy is a world he's still

yeah yeah the guy is a world he's still got it today yeah oh yeah he's still

got it today yeah oh yeah he's still sorry i mean he does you know i mean we

sorry i mean he does you know i mean we all get older you know nobody's getting

all get older you know nobody's getting any younger

any younger but you know so maybe he's he's not

but you know so maybe he's he's not where he wants to

where he wants to be physically or whatever so i'm being

be physically or whatever so i'm being told this by others that said oh he's

told this by others that said oh he's wishing he could do this or that well

wishing he could do this or that well he's wishing he was still in queens

he's wishing he was still in queens right i think

queens is wishing he was still in queensrack i think no i don't know that

queensrack i think no i don't know that new guy is good he's good he's still got

new guy is good he's good he's still got josh yeah but in terms of exposure

josh yeah but in terms of exposure somebody told me to get the new queen i

somebody told me to get the new queen i haven't got i'm not going to be good

haven't got i'm not going to be good is it mind-blowing no but the guy sounds

is it mind-blowing no but the guy sounds like jeff tate and he brings a little

like jeff tate and he brings a little bit of other things too but see

bit of other things too but see so he sounds like jeff tate yep

so he sounds like jeff tate yep i know

i know you know what would you why would you do

you know what would you why would you do why would you want to do that you know i

why would you want to do that you know i get the impression that jeff tate wasn't

get the impression that jeff tate wasn't easy to be with around

easy to be with around i get the fact that he was maybe not

i get the fact that he was maybe not playing with a full deck of cards which

playing with a full deck of cards which make you know you start touring with a

make you know you start touring with a band as much as they were touring i mean

band as much as they were touring i mean you know songs like silent lucidity and

you know songs like silent lucidity and jet city woman hit they're a big [ __ ]

jet city woman hit they're a big [ __ ] band they're big they're huge they're

band they're big they're huge they're all over mtv they're touring the world

all over mtv they're touring the world they're in buses together and you have

they're in buses together and you have to deal with a personality that's maybe

to deal with a personality that's maybe a bit crazy

i mean they fired him they fired him so that i mean

so that i mean it's hard to to cut someone that has

it's hard to to cut someone that has that great of a voice loose you know

that great of a voice loose you know they do yeah that's halloween did it

they do yeah that's halloween did it with kiska i mean you know that guy's

with kiska i mean you know that guy's got the golden voice of angels and they

got the golden voice of angels and they he i don't know if he left or if he got

he i don't know if he left or if he got booted they'll probably each

booted they'll probably each camp will tell you different but um

camp will tell you different but um you know how do you cut your main singer

you know how do you cut your main singer that's so great that's the defining

that's so great that's the defining point of your sound let them go that's a

point of your sound let them go that's a very risky often destructive move

very risky often destructive move that's yeah that's going to be a huge

that's yeah that's going to be a huge a huge discussion between the band

a huge discussion between the band members to say

members to say yeah we're going to take the face of

yeah we're going to take the face of this band away

this band away yeah

yeah he

i mean that did happen you know much later in the career when the music scene

later in the career when the music scene and even queens right themselves were

and even queens right themselves were almost a different entity

almost a different entity but yeah it was still a big a big step

but yeah it was still a big a big step for sure and for the record i did like

for sure and for the record i did like empire i did too

empire i did too empire has some very good songs i don't

empire has some very good songs i don't like the album overall but the good

like the album overall but the good songs are very good yeah i like it

songs are very good yeah i like it i like it it's good stuff out you know

i like it it's good stuff out you know operation mind crime great

operation mind crime great a lot of good stuff

a lot of good stuff all right who's i'm next right you are

all right who's i'm next right you are nixer i can't believe this one is slid

nixer i can't believe this one is slid under the radar but we got to go with

under the radar but we got to go with omen battlecry 1984. oh you picked it

omen battlecry 1984. oh you picked it before ken you bastard

before ken you bastard he's never going to come back on the

he's never going to come back on the show now you you have uh you've insulted

show now you you have uh you've insulted his honor sir

his honor sir ken on behalf of my co-host i apologize

ken on behalf of my co-host i apologize for this snafu

for this snafu alan

alan you want me to take you seriously with

you want me to take you seriously with that hat on

that hat on we can

we can but i gotta say

but i gotta say omen the first three omen records are

omen the first three omen records are all fantastic

all fantastic they're mind-blowingly fantastic

they're mind-blowingly fantastic fantastic and why are they so good well

fantastic and why are they so good well yeah

yeah kenny powell great songwriter there's a

kenny powell great songwriter there's a little bit of a maiden-esque

little bit of a maiden-esque air uh flow going through some of this

air uh flow going through some of this stuff

stuff the best thing about omen is this guy

the best thing about omen is this guy right here jd kimball yeah

right here jd kimball yeah there is none other greater than this

there is none other greater than this guy's vocals as far as this style of

guy's vocals as far as this style of traditional heavy metal he had a very

traditional heavy metal he had a very bluesy croon to him

bluesy croon to him yeah very soulful tone

yeah very soulful tone he didn't do the high soaring stuff but

he didn't do the high soaring stuff but he was just always in the pocket in that

he was just always in the pocket in that really bluesy mid-range tone and you

really bluesy mid-range tone and you could feel every word this guy was um

could feel every word this guy was um singing

singing uh

uh the axe man holy [ __ ] death right death

the axe man holy [ __ ] death right death rider

rider what a great song dragon's breath

what a great song dragon's breath be my wench

be my wench i mean this album is full of hits

i mean this album is full of hits first three albums are absolutely

first three albums are absolutely classics and i gotta thank the best of

classics and i gotta thank the best of metal blade volume one

metal blade volume one for turning me on to this amazing band

for turning me on to this amazing band timeless i still play omen quite often i

timeless i still play omen quite often i love jd kimball's vocals rest in peace

love jd kimball's vocals rest in peace cheers cancer sucks

cheers cancer sucks if if there's a band watching or gonna

if if there's a band watching or gonna watch this stream

watch this stream and you're you're

and you're you're a heavy metal band and you want to be a

a heavy metal band and you want to be a power metal band or you like power metal

listen to omen battlecry and do everything that record

everything that record did yup and then you'll be a good power

did yup and then you'll be a good power metal band you'll be on the good that is

metal band you'll be on the good that is the epitome

the epitome of in my opinion of

of in my opinion of power

power freaking metal well it's us power metal

freaking metal well it's us power metal us power metal and european power metal

us power metal and european power metal are two different things

are two different things and that's another stream

and that's another stream me and alan already did it

me and alan already did it a long time ago yep

a long time ago yep um it's it it is the the epitome

um it's it it is the the epitome of what of what good

of what of what good galloping

galloping medieval uh

medieval uh leather and change power metal should be

leather and change power metal should be zelman's battle cry

zelman's battle cry that

that again one of those that could be in my

again one of those that could be in my top

top 15 of all time

15 of all time so

so rock and metal plus why do i not know

rock and metal plus why do i not know omen i don't know but you need battle

omen i don't know but you need battle cry the second album warning of danger

cry the second album warning of danger and the third album the curse are all oh

and the third album the curse are all oh he's saying he doesn't know

he's saying he doesn't know chef's kiss man [ __ ] great stuff yep

chef's kiss man [ __ ] great stuff yep yeah it's funny kenny powell getting you

yeah it's funny kenny powell getting you know uh kicked out or separating from

know uh kicked out or separating from savage grace he ended up with you know

savage grace he ended up with you know two amazing us power metal bands as a

two amazing us power metal bands as a result of that if you he's stuck with

result of that if you he's stuck with savage grace oh man never exists

savage grace oh man never exists weird i i think i had savage pulled out

weird i i think i had savage pulled out here

i i i will not pick that before you can because i

because i you're on a post for my next pickup

you're on a post for my next pickup because like alan had brought up uh when

because like alan had brought up uh when when you went to the gentleman's room

when you went to the gentleman's room there uh marty that um you know we're

there uh marty that um you know we're we're kind of we're still talking about

we're kind of we're still talking about bigger bands right now maybe that's what

bigger bands right now maybe that's what you want to say so i'm gonna i'm gonna

you want to say so i'm gonna i'm gonna start going to a little more of the

start going to a little more of the lesser known yeah awesome i'm gonna kind

lesser known yeah awesome i'm gonna kind of abandon my stack of uh

of abandon my stack of uh venoms and bands that people know about

venoms and bands that people know about and get into a little more of the

and get into a little more of the obscure

obscure what i'll call obscure stuff from 1984

what i'll call obscure stuff from 1984 but it's not my turn so i'm just going

but it's not my turn so i'm just going to put through yeah it is isn't it is it

to put through yeah it is isn't it is it my turn okay

my turn okay that's then god damn it ken that's like

that's then god damn it ken that's like the perfect uh

the perfect uh the perfect entry so um i'll play off

the perfect entry so um i'll play off the metallica

the metallica um the metallica record and uh

um the metallica record and uh this was

this was metallica's bassist

metallica's bassist um on their first three albums mr cliff

um on their first three albums mr cliff burton this was his first band

burton this was his first band that released the record in 1984. now

that released the record in 1984. now obviously cliff didn't play on this he

obviously cliff didn't play on this he played on the demo

played on the demo the that was recorded the year before

the that was recorded the year before 1983 but

1983 but trauma

trauma they just played they just played in a

they just played they just played in a little town a little podunk town called

little town a little podunk town called kalkaska next to traverse city they

kalkaska next to traverse city they played there a year ago before the

played there a year ago before the pandemic really it's a great lounge in

pandemic really it's a great lounge in kalkaska nobody was there oh

kalkaska nobody was there oh i didn't go if they played anything from

i didn't go if they played anything from this record i would have went but um

this record i would have went but um yeah just

yeah just heavy metal man i mean do you like your

heavy metal man i mean do you like your heavy metal

heavy metal heavy metal e

heavy metal e i mean it's no frills it's it's not

i mean it's no frills it's it's not going to make um you know probably

going to make um you know probably anybody's top 10

anybody's top 10 for sure but it's a it's a good

for sure but it's a it's a good solid heavy metal record

solid heavy metal record um

um it's got pretty much anything you'd want

it's got pretty much anything you'd want out of a california-based heavy metal

out of a california-based heavy metal band at the time in 1984

band at the time in 1984 it's fairly catchy it's fairly evil at

it's fairly catchy it's fairly evil at times sounding

times sounding again nothing that's going to be over

again nothing that's going to be over the top nothing that's going to make you

the top nothing that's going to make you um

um want it every day it's not going to be

want it every day it's not going to be it it's not going to probably be your

it it's not going to probably be your regular cup of joe in the morning

regular cup of joe in the morning but it's still a pretty good record and

but it's still a pretty good record and uh you know i'm just going to tie it in

uh you know i'm just going to tie it in that it's it's good enough to be

that it's it's good enough to be mentioned

mentioned um as

um as a more obscure man from 1984 that

a more obscure man from 1984 that doesn't get talked about but um the

doesn't get talked about but um the tie-in is you know cliff burton was uh

tie-in is you know cliff burton was uh the bass player this one his band before

the bass player this one his band before metallica he was actually playing in

metallica he was actually playing in this band when he

this band when he um auditioned uh joined metallica he was

um auditioned uh joined metallica he was actually playing and did record on their

actually playing and did record on their demo the year previous to recording this

demo the year previous to recording this yeah so

yeah so you guys want to get a little a little

you guys want to get a little a little you know deeper into stuff go check out

you know deeper into stuff go check out trauma man good record yeah great call

trauma man good record yeah great call ken yeah trauma was on metal massacre

ken yeah trauma was on metal massacre four in 1983 with one of the songs with

four in 1983 with one of the songs with uh cliff

uh cliff that was there you go yeah another

that was there you go yeah another perfect time by professor allen

perfect time by professor allen that's why i'm here professor steele

that's why i'm here professor steele [ __ ]

[ __ ] okay alan people are clamoring for you

okay alan people are clamoring for you to talk about yag panzer so now is your

to talk about yag panzer so now is your time now is your time to shine

folks have been and ken seguin into some more obscure stuff so that's a good time

more obscure stuff so that's a good time i want to do uh i'm gonna do two uh one

i want to do uh i'm gonna do two uh one quick and one less quick then uh since

quick and one less quick then uh since we're hitting some of the more obscure

we're hitting some of the more obscure ones i don't have a ton to say about

ones i don't have a ton to say about this but uh

this but uh some folks are watching i know this is a

some folks are watching i know this is a sentimental favorite for some folks

sentimental favorite for some folks sacred rights

sacred rights first album came out in 84 this was a

first album came out in 84 this was a hawaiian band which

hawaiian band which you not a scene usually if you think

you not a scene usually if you think hawaii you're of course thinking marty

hawaii you're of course thinking marty friedman projects but there were other

friedman projects but there were other bands from hawaii

bands from hawaii and sacred right did some very uh cool

and sacred right did some very uh cool elms this one is the perfect example of

elms this one is the perfect example of an album i'll play

an album i'll play really like it put it on the shelf and

really like it put it on the shelf and kind of forget about it for a year or

kind of forget about it for a year or two and then i take it back i'm just

two and then i take it back i'm just like man that's really good why don't i

like man that's really good why don't i play that more often

play that more often uh really

uh really you good sounding band they really were

you good sounding band they really were very tight uh very good songwriters

very tight uh very good songwriters excellent a great example of where heavy

excellent a great example of where heavy metal in the us was at in 84. a lot of

metal in the us was at in 84. a lot of people will know this album was just

people will know this album was just like a plain white cover with the band's

like a plain white cover with the band's logo done a little bit different um it

logo done a little bit different um it got pressed several different times

got pressed several different times early on this is one of the

early on this is one of the i don't think this is the first pressing

i don't think this is the first pressing i get them mixed up a little bit it's a

i get them mixed up a little bit it's a little hard to keep them straight but

little hard to keep them straight but yeah this is one of the earlier

yeah this is one of the earlier pressings before that white cover

pressings before that white cover uh became really prominent so yeah the

uh became really prominent so yeah the secretary all the colored pencils

secretary all the colored pencils they they they went to town with that

they they they went to town with that box of crayolas right there they sure

box of crayolas right there they sure did

did every everything you can cram on that

every everything you can cram on that cover is on there somewhere so like ken

cover is on there somewhere so like ken said this is not an album that you're

said this is not an album that you're going to you ever have to go

going to you ever have to go unnecessarily like you know the

unnecessarily like you know the best album ever list but it is a very

best album ever list but it is a very good listen uh if you're ever and they

good listen uh if you're ever and they did some more albums too this was not a

did some more albums too this was not a one and done kind of thing they did

one and done kind of thing they did relocate to the mainland eventually

relocate to the mainland eventually and put out some additional albums so

and put out some additional albums so yeah if it's one that you see

yeah if it's one that you see don't yeah don't let the watercolors

don't yeah don't let the watercolors there throw you off

there throw you off it is a very solid one

it is a very solid one um

um but yeah if folks want this one then

but yeah if folks want this one then let's do this one

let's do this one colorado again not what you think of as

colorado again not what you think of as the most uh

the most uh biggest hotbed for heavy metal in the

biggest hotbed for heavy metal in the 80s but they had jagdpanzer and

80s but they had jagdpanzer and jagdpanzer made ample destruction and

jagdpanzer made ample destruction and this is probably a top 10 album of all

this is probably a top 10 album of all time for me

time for me um

um it just perfectly hits that same us

it just perfectly hits that same us power metal vibe that we were discussing

power metal vibe that we were discussing a few minutes ago

a few minutes ago with uh omen and bands like that it's

with uh omen and bands like that it's got incredibly strong vocals with harry

got incredibly strong vocals with harry conklin

conklin it's got you know joey tafolla uh you

it's got you know joey tafolla uh you know guitar whiz kid it's got the iconic

know guitar whiz kid it's got the iconic cover art just killer track list

cover art just killer track list um

um they made like you know 12 different

they made like you know 12 different versions of it back in the day i may or

versions of it back in the day i may or may not own about 10 of them you can't

may not own about 10 of them you can't prove that it's all speculation you

prove that it's all speculation you heard on the internet don't listen to

heard on the internet don't listen to the internet kids

the internet kids um but yeah this album just start to

um but yeah this album just start to finish is amazingly strong love it to

finish is amazingly strong love it to death

death not a bad track on it

not a bad track on it that's a great record i love that record

that's a great record i love that record i i love that one to death i almost

i i love that one to death i almost bought another copy of it last week but

bought another copy of it last week but it it was way way way too expensive

it it was way way way too expensive probably got a cd copy of it under that

probably got a cd copy of it under that hat right now don't you uh i might have

hat right now don't you uh i might have five or six copies

five or six copies marty did you know that hat dances too i

marty did you know that hat dances too i didn't realize it danced i didn't know i

didn't realize it danced i didn't know i didn't see it dance

didn't see it dance the hat twerks it twerks

the hat twerks it twerks it does it all

there's everything you could want it to do and more right

do and more right i don't know how to know what the more

i don't know how to know what the more is

is i just don't

i just don't all right we'll save that for the after

all right we'll save that for the after hours uh extended the only fans the

hours uh extended the only fans the heavy metal earth the owner only fans

heavy metal earth the owner only fans heavy turkey only fans

heavy turkey only fans heavy drumsticks well people are talking

heavy drumsticks well people are talking about it so i'm going to jump out of the

about it so i'm going to jump out of the out of line here and uh voivod warren

out of line here and uh voivod warren payne

payne i actually heard

i actually heard this is the first voivod album i ever

this is the first voivod album i ever heard

heard and um

and um since i'm a big venom fan

since i'm a big venom fan it's not too far removed from what venom

it's not too far removed from what venom was doing these guys are very much a

was doing these guys are very much a venom influence there's a lot of punk on

venom influence there's a lot of punk on this

this there's a lot of weird they're from

there's a lot of weird they're from canada from some weird nuclear plant

canada from some weird nuclear plant town

town um

um up in

up in canada

what can you say about this band they were completely unique

were completely unique i love blackie's blower base sound

i love blackie's blower base sound always whenever i have to record

always whenever i have to record something with bass

something with bass i hear that bass tone in my head

i hear that bass tone in my head i just can't get it out even though

i just can't get it out even though sometimes a clean bass is what's best i

sometimes a clean bass is what's best i still want the blower bass tone but

still want the blower bass tone but this is a very influential album voivod

this is a very influential album voivod changed very dramatically from this

changed very dramatically from this album onto their second album roar

album onto their second album roar roar is more driving more sci-fi

roar is more driving more sci-fi tinged before they landed on killing

tinged before they landed on killing technology which

technology which is where i think they really found their

is where i think they really found their true sound but um their beginnings are

true sound but um their beginnings are very much rooted in merciful fate and

very much rooted in merciful fate and venom worship you listen to their early

venom worship you listen to their early demos

demos they do a lot of versatile fate and

they do a lot of versatile fate and venom covers on the demos

venom covers on the demos um so you can kind of tell you know from

um so you can kind of tell you know from a cover band to what they became

a cover band to what they became uh he's got the classic voivod warriors

uh he's got the classic voivod warriors of ice suck your bone

of ice suck your bone um

um black city nuclear war blower

black city nuclear war blower i think blower is the song that was on

i think blower is the song that was on the best of metal blade vol 1. i can't

the best of metal blade vol 1. i can't remember to be completely honest

remember to be completely honest but um

my favorite voivod dimension hatros

dimension hatros hands down favorite but all this stuff

hands down favorite but all this stuff awesome perfect weird great band

awesome perfect weird great band i saw them live 2010 at the

i saw them live 2010 at the maryland death fest yep

maryland death fest yep they absolutely blew the roof off the

they absolutely blew the roof off the place

place yep

yep they

they their set list was

their set list was so well planned out where they

so well planned out where they played one two songs from almost every

played one two songs from almost every album

album and just the

and just the and for a bunch of guys you know they're

and for a bunch of guys you know they're they're older than me i think right yeah

they're older than me i think right yeah yeah and

yeah and just going out there and this is 2010 so

just going out there and this is 2010 so you know 10 12 years ago whatever it is

you know 10 12 years ago whatever it is and

and the energy these guys had

the energy these guys had and the the just the whole energy and

and the the just the whole energy and the singer just gets up and he's getting

the singer just gets up and he's getting out of the entire crowd into it i mean

out of the entire crowd into it i mean he's jumping around just getting every

he's jumping around just getting every and they they they literally i guess

and they they they literally i guess they flew in did the show and then flew

they flew in did the show and then flew out they literally went to the airport

out they literally went to the airport right after the set and flew out and

right after the set and flew out and they just blew the roof off the place i

they just blew the roof off the place i was so impressed

was so impressed how

how well how good those guys perform live i

well how good those guys perform live i had never seen voip and it was amazing

had never seen voip and it was amazing to see those guys at that especially at

to see those guys at that especially at that point in time

that point in time in their career and then to see them

in their career and then to see them with that much energy and have that much

with that much energy and have that much of an effect on a crowd was insane

of an effect on a crowd was insane well yeah another just a world-class act

well yeah another just a world-class act the first the only time i've seen them

the first the only time i've seen them was on the nothing face tour with sound

was on the nothing face tour with sound garden and um

garden and um faith no more very strange bill i've

faith no more very strange bill i've talked about that a million times but um

talked about that a million times but um that's a strange crowd

that's a strange crowd and the most the crowd left after

and the most the crowd left after sound soundgarden played of course

sound soundgarden played of course soundgarden blew everybody off the stage

soundgarden blew everybody off the stage voivod was just the odd man out on that

voivod was just the odd man out on that bill they were so great i was there to

bill they were so great i was there to see them but was pretty blown away by

see them but was pretty blown away by some garden set they were pretty

some garden set they were pretty amazingly energetic for sure

amazingly energetic for sure oh they're [ __ ] great

oh they're [ __ ] great anyway

anyway ken go it's me again uh okay oh

ken go it's me again uh okay oh all right so seeing on the obscure a

all right so seeing on the obscure a little bit

little bit why don't we uh why don't we go with oh

why don't we uh why don't we go with oh hell i don't know um

hell i don't know um i'm just gonna pick this one because

i'm just gonna pick this one because maybe people don't know this one because

maybe people don't know this one because it's not talked about very much but um

it's not talked about very much but um dark age nice

dark age nice i want to talk about just

i want to talk about just steel and and

steel and and swords in dragon heavy metal

swords in dragon heavy metal um is

um is dark age

dark age and uh it you know

and uh it you know i don't know you know i don't know how

i don't know you know i don't know how to i don't know where you would

to i don't know where you would categorize this and i one not

categorize this and i one not categorized but

categorized but where you would put this in your top

where you would put this in your top list of metal records you know as a

list of metal records you know as a heavy metal fan you know i'm obviously

heavy metal fan you know i'm obviously being a heavy metal fan where do i put

being a heavy metal fan where do i put this in my top um i probably don't

this in my top um i probably don't but it's just one of those one of those

but it's just one of those one of those gems that you

gems that you you go back to and then you realize how

you go back to and then you realize how good it actually is

good it actually is although it may not make my top 10 15 20

although it may not make my top 10 15 20 25 even maybe it makes the top 100

25 even maybe it makes the top 100 but it then you and you almost forget

but it then you and you almost forget about it then you pull it off the shelf

about it then you pull it off the shelf pull it off the old vinyl shelf and you

pull it off the old vinyl shelf and you play it

play it you realize

you realize man this is a good heavy metal record

man this is a good heavy metal record it's dark age

it's dark age and you know

and you know again it

again it has a little bit of that omen vibe to it

has a little bit of that omen vibe to it at times

at times not done quite as well obviously as open

not done quite as well obviously as open because they would have gotten bigger

because they would have gotten bigger but um

but um a good record nonetheless just good

a good record nonetheless just good good heavy metal with a little bit of a

good heavy metal with a little bit of a power metal next to it

power metal next to it in

in dark age you know just i'm just showing

dark age you know just i'm just showing this guys because

this guys because it probably doesn't get talked about a

it probably doesn't get talked about a lot probably doesn't

it's great you know it's a good heavy metal record it's a cool album yep yeah

metal record it's a cool album yep yeah it is it's great and it's and i think

it is it's great and it's and i think it's fairly like you know sought out i

it's fairly like you know sought out i think for its obscurity it's i think

think for its obscurity it's i think what label is that on ken

what label is that on ken um

um gnarly gnarly i think never even heard

gnarly gnarly i think never even heard of that

no you're exactly right harley records yep um

yep um california that's why they never got

california that's why they never got bigger

bigger omen was on metal blade you know there

omen was on metal blade you know there you go yeah

you go yeah yeah what i wonder if like metal blade

yeah what i wonder if like metal blade has repressed this knife

you know my remaining time here i'm going to go

my remaining time here i'm going to go with uh more obscure what i think is

with uh more obscure what i think is obscure people may not

obscure people may not talk often about we'll go with that but

talk often about we'll go with that but good stuff you guys are looking for

good stuff you guys are looking for something out of the ordinary it uh

something out of the ordinary it uh yeah it's a very like you said you can

yeah it's a very like you said you can it's a it's a very solid if you like

it's a it's a very solid if you like middle of that era

middle of that era dark age you know fits in perfectly with

dark age you know fits in perfectly with that yeah

that yeah yep

yep all right alan

all right alan all right um

all right um well

well 1984 was sort of a buy one get one free

1984 was sort of a buy one get one free for this band that went on to

for this band that went on to uh be a big thing

uh be a big thing uh most people would expect us to talk

uh most people would expect us to talk about this album but i actually want to

about this album but i actually want to talk about the other one they did in 84.

talk about the other one they did in 84. sign of the hammer um

sign of the hammer um you know

you know weirdo sketchy graphics aside

weirdo sketchy graphics aside this is an incredibly good man of war

this is an incredibly good man of war album uh you love the tracklist on it

album uh you love the tracklist on it it's not quite as epic

it's not quite as epic as hell to england of course but still

as hell to england of course but still you know it's got you know fun tracks

you know it's got you know fun tracks like all men play on 10.

like all men play on 10. uh animal is you know really fast and

uh animal is you know really fast and fun thor the power head gets that kind

fun thor the power head gets that kind of epic vibe going mountains is slower

of epic vibe going mountains is slower but uh is really good shows off you know

but uh is really good shows off you know kind of the grander side of man of war

kind of the grander side of man of war uh just tons of good stuff sign of the

uh just tons of good stuff sign of the hammer is good thunder pick is fun the

hammer is good thunder pick is fun the oath is a great anthem uh

oath is a great anthem uh the real gem though the showstopper is

the real gem though the showstopper is the closer with guyana a cult of the

the closer with guyana a cult of the damn such a great [ __ ] song oh that

damn such a great [ __ ] song oh that song is just

song is just so [ __ ] heavy and you know

so [ __ ] heavy and you know again you know for by today's standards

again you know for by today's standards it's ancient history but you know this

it's ancient history but you know this is coming out you know just you know a

is coming out you know just you know a few years after you know the whole jim

few years after you know the whole jim jones thing had gone down and just you

jones thing had gone down and just you know that you know your little intro

know that you know your little intro speech yo thank you for the kool-aid

speech yo thank you for the kool-aid reverend jim

reverend jim oh that song just builds so [ __ ] well

oh that song just builds so [ __ ] well um i'm always surprised this album

um i'm always surprised this album doesn't get talked about more it's it's

doesn't get talked about more it's it's the overlooked album and their

the overlooked album and their discography people

discography people you know the first album's fun kind of

you know the first album's fun kind of cheesy people like it it's cool

cheesy people like it it's cool everybody latches on to you know into

everybody latches on to you know into glory ride and hail to england and then

glory ride and hail to england and then they jump into the atlantic albums it's

they jump into the atlantic albums it's like but wait yeah it was another one

like but wait yeah it was another one it's incredibly good that does not get

it's incredibly good that does not get enough love so

enough love so yeah two albums in one year uh and two

yeah two albums in one year uh and two of the best ones they ever did so gotta

of the best ones they ever did so gotta gotta give the shout out to man of war

gotta give the shout out to man of war there i didn't pick any man of war

there i didn't pick any man of war because at that time i was not into them

because at that time i was not into them at all i didn't start getting into man

at all i didn't start getting into man of war until around like 98 is when jeff

of war until around like 98 is when jeff wagner was turning me on to them

wagner was turning me on to them zoller

zoller and um ever since then it's all

and um ever since then it's all i love that [ __ ] it's so good

i love that [ __ ] it's so good oh man freaking rules yeah

i didn't know i didn't know uh allen was in the manor where i i knew you were

in the manor where i i knew you were marty that's why i didn't touch manor

marty that's why i didn't touch manor because i figured marty's gonna pull out

because i figured marty's gonna pull out man

man yeah because ken's a gentleman he

yeah because ken's a gentleman he doesn't pick albums he thinks somebody

doesn't pick albums he thinks somebody else is going to pick in the stream

[Music] that's right right here

that's right right here [Laughter]

[Laughter] talk to the bird

talk to the bird i guess i'm up next you are up next

i guess i'm up next you are up next marty take it away oh right along with

marty take it away oh right along with uh metallica this is another album that

uh metallica this is another album that landed at a very

landed at a very uh similar time

uh similar time uh they're they're friends

uh they're they're friends and this album is amazing

and this album is amazing first metal church

first metal church yep there is god this album these guys

yep there is god this album these guys are from seattle

are from seattle and um

and um what a band

what a band seriously what a band david wayne's

seriously what a band david wayne's vocals he's kind of like a jd kimball

vocals he's kind of like a jd kimball type he's got a very raspy bluesy vocal

type he's got a very raspy bluesy vocal tone

tone um

um this album is full of [ __ ] bangers

this album is full of [ __ ] bangers there is not a bad song on this thing

there is not a bad song on this thing highway star is kind of strange they end

highway star is kind of strange they end the album on

the album on um the deep purple song highway star

um the deep purple song highway star which you know it doesn't bug me that

which you know it doesn't bug me that much but it seems a little out of place

much but it seems a little out of place beyond the black

beyond the black metal church

metal church the uh merciless onslaught cover or uh

the uh merciless onslaught cover or uh instrumental

instrumental gods of wrath what a [ __ ] powerhouse

gods of wrath what a [ __ ] powerhouse of a song this to me is not a thrash

of a song this to me is not a thrash album this is american power metal at

album this is american power metal at its

its finest we talked about this a long time

finest we talked about this a long time ago on our show allen this this is

ago on our show allen this this is probably leaning a lot of people try to

probably leaning a lot of people try to lump this band into thrash i think the

lump this band into thrash i think the dark

dark the second album the dark which i love

the second album the dark which i love just as much is maybe a little thrashier

just as much is maybe a little thrashier but still absolutely they're a little

but still absolutely they're a little bit but it's still not

bit but it's still not this is power metal to me this is power

this is power metal to me this is power metal

metal and um this album is a complete banger

and um this album is a complete banger there is not a bad song on it if you've

there is not a bad song on it if you've never heard this album

never heard this album my god get it it's crazy it's if you're

my god get it it's crazy it's if you're a long time metal head and you've never

a long time metal head and you've never heard this album it's there's something

heard this album it's there's something kind of

kind of he fell off the banana boat somewhere i

he fell off the banana boat somewhere i don't know it's it's

don't know it's it's it's a top 10 metal record oh it's

it's a top 10 metal record oh it's amazing absolutely amazing

amazing absolutely amazing now marty you mentioned before not

now marty you mentioned before not liking the motorhead cover on uh

liking the motorhead cover on uh persecution mania what do you think of

persecution mania what do you think of the deep purple cover on metal church

the deep purple cover on metal church i think it's just passable but i think

i think it's just passable but i think it's a little out of place with the rest

it's a little out of place with the rest of the album

of the album okay i've got a problem with

okay i've got a problem with bands that do

bands that do that are heavy bands doing

that are heavy bands doing covers of songs that have pitch vocals

covers of songs that have pitch vocals like you know there was like um back in

like you know there was like um back in the day like all these was a dwell

the day like all these was a dwell records they put out a tribute to slayer

records they put out a tribute to slayer with all these bands like heavy bands

with all these bands like heavy bands doing slayer covers

doing slayer covers they're playing the music good

they're playing the music good it's all but you know got death vocals

it's all but you know got death vocals doing tamara type vocals it just it

doing tamara type vocals it just it ruins it for me i want to hear slayer as

ruins it for me i want to hear slayer as [ __ ] slayer i don't know

[ __ ] slayer i don't know it's weird it just things little things

it's weird it just things little things like that bug me if they do it with

like that bug me if they do it with pitch vocals and they try then it's a

pitch vocals and they try then it's a little bit different um

little bit different um i don't know it's just it's just a weird

i don't know it's just it's just a weird thing with me i know a lot of people

thing with me i know a lot of people disagree with me on that

disagree with me on that but um yeah

but the highway star it's okay it's okay it's just kind of a weird way to end the

it's just kind of a weird way to end the album no i agree i agree i just want to

album no i agree i agree i just want to point out before we jump back to ken

point out before we jump back to ken we're we're two hours into this stream

we're we're two hours into this stream we just now got around to talking about

we just now got around to talking about metal church which we all agree is you

metal church which we all agree is you know a you know a highlight album of the

know a you know a highlight album of the entire you know american mental history

entire you know american mental history it once again reinforces how insanely

it once again reinforces how insanely overloaded this year was with

overloaded this year was with incredible releases that it it took this

incredible releases that it it took this long to get to metal church

long to get to metal church that's crazy there's at least two more

that's crazy there's at least two more i've got sitting here that i we haven't

i've got sitting here that i we haven't gotten to and we should have and we will

gotten to and we should have and we will but yeah it's just

but yeah it's just 1984 man the the the list goes on and on

1984 man the the the list goes on and on i agree with that isn't going to carry

i agree with that isn't going to carry on

zero the hero rules man changed my mind checkmate libs

checkmate libs and eric coming in with the sorry man at

and eric coming in with the sorry man at the gates cover of capture of sin slays

the gates cover of capture of sin slays all day it's not as good as captor of

all day it's not as good as captor of sin sorry

oh wait i didn't know at the gates did captain

captain yep

yep you super recovery surfer covering

you super recovery surfer covering stormtrooping by the news

stormtrooping by the news [Laughter]

[Laughter] yikes

you know what might be one of the best covers i ever heard was sentenced when

covers i ever heard was sentenced when they did uh maiden they did the trooper

they did uh maiden they did the trooper oh yeah that was a good cover oh my god

oh yeah that was a good cover oh my god yeah the way they sped that whole thing

yeah the way they sped that whole thing up oh my god it was so good

up oh my god it was so good yeah

yeah all right you're up ken

all right you're up ken all right so i'll keep with the um

all right so i'll keep with the um a little bit more obscure stuff i think

a little bit more obscure stuff i think this one was repressed not too too long

this one was repressed not too too long ago

ago overlooked

overlooked great

great heavy metal

heavy metal it even the sticker even says it's 100

it even the sticker even says it's 100 pure metal

pure metal yes which costs which cross fit for

yes which costs which cross fit for fight

fight um

um so good this is so good and yeah there

so good this is so good and yeah there we go

we go and not many people talk about it i

and not many people talk about it i think they've heard of that album never

think they've heard of that album never heard that album ever oh

heard that album ever oh it's like the sticker says marty

it's like the sticker says marty 100 pure metal 100 pure metal it is this

100 pure metal 100 pure metal it is this is it's

is it's got some power metal it's got mostly

got some power metal it's got mostly heavy metal it's got good solos it's got

heavy metal it's got good solos it's got great rhythm

great rhythm it you know it's it's

it you know it's it's maybe it's not

maybe it's not maybe it's not steel and swords and uh

maybe it's not steel and swords and uh sorcery kind of metal but it's it's just

sorcery kind of metal but it's it's just good heavy metal

good heavy metal and yeah i don't know i i think it has

and yeah i don't know i i think it has been repressed once maybe twice this

been repressed once maybe twice this round yeah the um some folks have done

round yeah the um some folks have done like anthology collections for some

like anthology collections for some witchcraft stuff here and there this is

witchcraft stuff here and there this is yeah the materials out there

yeah the materials out there really good and i don't see this album

really good and i don't see this album on uh metal channels that i check out

on uh metal channels that i check out you know people that talk about heavy

you know people that talk about heavy metal

metal no

no i don't hear this you know ever really

i don't hear this you know ever really mentioned much or anything about it

mentioned much or anything about it being

being in anybody's playlist or anything like

in anybody's playlist or anything like that it's definitely was definitely mine

that it's definitely was definitely mine for a long time a lot i didn't get this

for a long time a lot i didn't get this record probably until you know late 80s

record probably until you know late 80s you know probably four or five years

you know probably four or five years after its release i'd probably pick this

after its release i'd probably pick this up but then you know as you can see on

up but then you know as you can see on the sticker up there it was part of a

the sticker up there it was part of a bargain by already

bargain by already yeah at the record store

yeah at the record store so you know i i picked it up and wow and

so you know i i picked it up and wow and probably only because it had the sticker

probably only because it had the sticker you know 100 pure metal is probably one

you know 100 pure metal is probably one of the reasons i picked it up but good

of the reasons i picked it up but good stuff man i'm glad allen had it too

stuff man i'm glad allen had it too because yeah good good heavy metal so

because yeah good good heavy metal so you know people are looking for

you know people are looking for something

something out of their comfort zone man

out of their comfort zone man yeah explosive action says simon says i

yeah explosive action says simon says i need that you do simon simon likes metal

need that you do simon simon likes metal flower says i dig that witch cross it's

flower says i dig that witch cross it's like def leopard and merciful fate had a

it's baby a bad description actually no you think about it with the hard rock

you think about it with the hard rock tone of

tone of left leopard a little bit

left leopard a little bit it's not a bad

it's not a bad that's pretty good eric bauer yeah yep

that's pretty good eric bauer yeah yep yeah it's one of the oh one of the road

yeah it's one of the oh one of the road runner's classes

runner's classes excellent call ken

excellent call ken but uh yeah uh ken have you ever seen

but uh yeah uh ken have you ever seen this version of it this

this version of it this is the swedish press on i think a little

is the swedish press on i think a little label called zebra or something

label called zebra or something mostly

mostly it got licensed by road runner real

it got licensed by road runner real quick

quick yeah no i have the road runner i've

yeah no i have the road runner i've never seen that that yeah it's uh yeah

never seen that that yeah it's uh yeah the other choice the the cover is a

the other choice the the cover is a darker blue i don't know if it'll show

darker blue i don't know if it'll show up well on camera yeah i kind of see

up well on camera yeah i kind of see that yeah yeah oh yeah you can see it

that yeah yeah oh yeah you can see it yep but yeah it's same album on the same

yep but yeah it's same album on the same track list there's no other differences

track list there's no other differences but yeah excellent excellent choice ken

but yeah excellent excellent choice ken excellent

excellent good record

good record excellent that record

excellent that record you're outbound all right uh

you're outbound all right uh ken's covering a lot of the obscurities

ken's covering a lot of the obscurities just fine um and we still have some big

just fine um and we still have some big things that need to be covered so um

things that need to be covered so um we haven't talked to

we haven't talked to this

this priest

priest uh and this

uh and this folks vary a little bit on where they

folks vary a little bit on where they rank this one this is uh probably my

rank this one this is uh probably my favorite of this early to mid 80s era

favorite of this early to mid 80s era for judas priest and not a lot of people

for judas priest and not a lot of people pick screaming for vengeance over it

pick screaming for vengeance over it screaming the good songs are great but

screaming the good songs are great but some of the other songs are kind of

some of the other songs are kind of forgettable for me but this album i

forgettable for me but this album i really like this one almost start to

really like this one almost start to finish there's almost not a bad track on

finish there's almost not a bad track on here um you know yes it looks very dated

here um you know yes it looks very dated you know with the crazy cover art and it

you know with the crazy cover art and it sounds a little you know it sounds very

sounds a little you know it sounds very 80s but you know why because it was

80s but you know why because it was recorded in the middle of the 1980s it's

recorded in the middle of the 1980s it's supposed to sound that way

supposed to sound that way um but yeah it's you know judas priest

um but yeah it's you know judas priest you know

you know they rule the world at that point them

they rule the world at that point them and maiden are unstoppable it's the one

and maiden are unstoppable it's the one two british metal punch

two british metal punch that uh

that uh they've conquered the international

they've conquered the international markets

markets and every album everybody's you know

and every album everybody's you know just you go nuts for them at this point

just you go nuts for them at this point uh after this of course things

uh after this of course things they did some interesting things

they did some interesting things [Music]

[Music] but uh yeah defenders of the faith you

but uh yeah defenders of the faith you know they are still roaring loud and

know they are still roaring loud and proud it's you know solid heavy metal

proud it's you know solid heavy metal through and through and we're just now

through and through and we're just now getting to talking about judas priest

getting to talking about judas priest two hours and plus i didn't pick jesus

two hours and plus i didn't pick jesus because i was a maiden guy and i

because i was a maiden guy and i couldn't listen to jesus priests because

couldn't listen to jesus priests because i liked my iron maiden that's what that

i liked my iron maiden that's what that was my mindset back then i i've heard

was my mindset back then i i've heard other folks you know that had that same

other folks you know that had that same mindset i never got it because um yeah i

mindset i never got it because um yeah i got into both bands around the same time

got into both bands around the same time and liked them pretty evenly

[Laughter] that's from austin to you

that's from austin to you [Laughter]

all right i'm up next i can't believe i beat

i can't believe i beat alan to the punch on this one but

alan to the punch on this one but running wild wow

this album was a big deal for me i there was something

was something this was a german band that wasn't

this was a german band that wasn't creator that wasn't sodom that wasn't

creator that wasn't sodom that wasn't tanker that wasn't destruction it had a

tanker that wasn't destruction it had a complete own sound to me

complete own sound to me and it really connected hard with me i

and it really connected hard with me i love the bad english on here

love the bad english on here jenga's jengas can

jenga's jengas can instead of genghis khan it's jenga's can

instead of genghis khan it's jenga's can and um

and um this has got um

well uh prisoner of our time prisoners of our time that's like their their

of our time that's like their their theme song that was their theme song oh

theme song that was their theme song oh yeah demon

yeah demon oh my god great song diabolical force

oh my god great song diabolical force yep adrian son of satan

yep adrian son of satan there's really not a bad song on this

there's really not a bad song on this album i mean granted

album i mean granted everybody kind of gloms onto the the

everybody kind of gloms onto the the pirate metal um turn that they took

pirate metal um turn that they took cause let's face it the riffs got way

cause let's face it the riffs got way way way better i mean the

way way better i mean the rolf just writes these majestic [ __ ]

rolf just writes these majestic [ __ ] riffs they're just crazy over the top

riffs they're just crazy over the top riffs but um

riffs but um this is a very dark record

this is a very dark record very satanic you know it's like a german

very satanic you know it's like a german band trying to

band trying to you know glean a little that energy from

you know glean a little that energy from venom and you know all the other bands

venom and you know all the other bands that were talking satan back in the day

that were talking satan back in the day but

but they dropped it in favor of uh sailing

they dropped it in favor of uh sailing the seven seas and uh booty and plunder

the seven seas and uh booty and plunder and i think they're i think i don't

and i think they're i think i don't think this running wild would have stood

think this running wild would have stood the test of time i don't think they

the test of time i don't think they would have made it the the distance that

would have made it the the distance that uh

uh um under a jolly roger and uh

um under a jolly roger and uh all the others

all the others yeah black canyon

yeah black canyon um

um yeah

yeah when i was

when i was i had this on tape

i had this on tape i found it in a camelot bargain bin for

i found it in a camelot bargain bin for a dollar and um i listened to it

a dollar and um i listened to it incessantly

incessantly tons and tons of times it was a great i

tons and tons of times it was a great i love the cover too what a what a cool

love the cover too what a what a cool album cover

album cover [ __ ] wild

[ __ ] wild awesome great great band all their [ __ ]

awesome great great band all their [ __ ] is great now there's

is great now there's good

good good stuff

good stuff great discography you know it's like you

great discography you know it's like you could you could pick out a track or two

could you could pick out a track or two in just about every one of their records

in just about every one of their records one every one of their albums and

one every one of their albums and put a great comp together you know it's

put a great comp together you know it's like yeah

like yeah i did that yeah years ago again i tried

i did that yeah years ago again i tried putting together like a you know my own

putting together like a you know my own little best of running wild playlist and

little best of running wild playlist and it took me like three cdrs to get

it took me like three cdrs to get everything on that i wanted to

everything on that i wanted to just so many killer tracks and

just so many killer tracks and right marty it's a great album but i

right marty it's a great album but i think you're also right that had they

think you're also right that had they stayed on that course

stayed on that course they probably would not have

they probably would not have lasted as long as they did and

lasted as long as they did and you have to look no further you know

you have to look no further you know than one of their their uh you know

than one of their their uh you know uh colleagues at the time a band like

uh colleagues at the time a band like iron angel you know similar sounds

iron angel you know similar sounds similar tone really good stuff they made

similar tone really good stuff they made two albums and that was kind of you know

two albums and that was kind of you know about all anybody heard of them they got

about all anybody heard of them they got lost in the mix because nothing made

lost in the mix because nothing made them stand out as much crap as running

them stand out as much crap as running wild took at times about the pirate

wild took at times about the pirate thing it made them stand out it was

thing it made them stand out it was something people could latch onto

something people could latch onto and uh but as metal mickey pointed out

and uh but as metal mickey pointed out in his recent uh running wild video

in his recent uh running wild video it wasn't all just silly pirate stuff it

it wasn't all just silly pirate stuff it wasn't every song wasn't just yo ho ho

wasn't every song wasn't just yo ho ho and a bottle of rum you know they used

and a bottle of rum you know they used the pirate stuff for some songs but you

the pirate stuff for some songs but you know there were a lot of songs you know

know there were a lot of songs you know about other historical topics just in

about other historical topics just in general motorcycle topics you know

general motorcycle topics you know uh you know

uh you know overall themes of freedom and liberty

overall themes of freedom and liberty and stuff that

and stuff that you know

you know the pirate things you know was one

the pirate things you know was one aspect it was a good visual aspect it

aspect it was a good visual aspect it gave them an identity but it wasn't

gave them an identity but it wasn't they weren't just doing you know silly

they weren't just doing you know silly pirate songs you know song in and song

pirate songs you know song in and song out because that probably would have you

out because that probably would have you know

know gotten old pretty fast and i see that

gotten old pretty fast and i see that with you know current quote-unquote

with you know current quote-unquote pirate metal bands i've listened to

pirate metal bands i've listened to those and they're fun for two or three

those and they're fun for two or three songs and then it just gets old

songs and then it just gets old um running wild never got old running

um running wild never got old running wild still they released an album within

wild still they released an album within the past couple of weeks and it's a

the past couple of weeks and it's a great album they're still they're still

great album they're still they're still nailing it i wonder if the pirate themed

nailing it i wonder if the pirate themed running well was more of a label ploy as

running well was more of a label ploy as well

well suppose that's a good question ken um

suppose that's a good question ken um carl very much liked bans on noise to

carl very much liked bans on noise to have an identity

have an identity so david was saying the author of the

so david was saying the author of the noise book he we had him on

noise book he we had him on yep yeah he really liked that but uh the

yep yeah he really liked that but uh the accounts you know that the folks have

accounts you know that the folks have said is that ralph was just he was very

said is that ralph was just he was very into history and stuff and that he went

into history and stuff and that he went and saw

and saw a movie or play you know that was kind

a movie or play you know that was kind of a pirate thing and he kind of got

of a pirate thing and he kind of got he's like you know hey this is all yo

he's like you know hey this is all yo really cool visually appealing it had

really cool visually appealing it had happened right after the disastrous uh

happened right after the disastrous uh us tour that you know they got there

us tour that you know they got there basically got sent home early because

basically got sent home early because they were so poorly received

they were so poorly received and they were kind of at a crossroads

and they were kind of at a crossroads trying to figure out what to do and

trying to figure out what to do and ralph had seen this pirate thing it was

ralph had seen this pirate thing it was kind of into the history and all that

kind of into the history and all that anyway and just felt like yeah that

anyway and just felt like yeah that would all come together and carl was

would all come together and carl was even though it was maybe a weird choice

even though it was maybe a weird choice for an image you know he liked those

for an image you know he liked those bands to have something unique that he

bands to have something unique that he could use to sell them and

could use to sell them and so yeah i think it was probably more the

so yeah i think it was probably more the band's just ralph's decision but i'm

band's just ralph's decision but i'm sure the label uh

sure the label uh basically uh was happy to take that idea

basically uh was happy to take that idea and run with it

yeah it i don't think it hurt him no no great

i don't think it hurt him no no great band i think for every person that maybe

band i think for every person that maybe you know turned their nose up at it you

you know turned their nose up at it you know there were two other people that

know there were two other people that listened to it and realized that it was

listened to it and realized that it was [ __ ] amazing

[ __ ] amazing everybody check out metal mickey's uh uh

everybody check out metal mickey's uh uh ranking of the albums i don't know that

ranking of the albums i don't know that i agree with him on a lot of the ranking

i agree with him on a lot of the ranking but he does a very good job at breaking

but he does a very good job at breaking down all the albums he did a good job on

down all the albums he did a good job on that it was a good one yeah metal mickey

that it was a good one yeah metal mickey channel for that

channel for that yeah i'd have him ranked you know some

yeah i'd have him ranked you know some things differently too but he did a nice

things differently too but he did a nice job on it for sure he did

job on it for sure he did and that is

and that is that's

uh okay up you know what i'll i'll go back a little bit to

back a little bit to now this band is

now this band is very well known today

very well known today as has been been for the last couple

as has been been for the last couple deck a few decades but this particular

deck a few decades but this particular record

record i don't think was much talked about when

i don't think was much talked about when it was released

it was released um because it's probably not

their best it's you know even for me i love this

it's you know even for me i love this band today but and i love their

band today but and i love their discography but this probably isn't

discography but this probably isn't um i wouldn't put this as my best my

um i wouldn't put this as my best my favorite record by the band but i love

favorite record by the band but i love her

her warlock burning the witches hmm

warlock burning the witches hmm again

again you know another record that you know

you know another record that you know everybody knows warlock now i mean

everybody knows warlock now i mean everybody knows you know

everybody knows you know this band today but i don't think this

this band today but i don't think this record quite you know i'm gonna show it

record quite you know i'm gonna show it because it's 84. it i don't know if

because it's 84. it i don't know if people

people ever talk about this being

ever talk about this being one of their favorite warlock records

one of their favorite warlock records you know

you know i i just i never i don't hear that often

i i just i never i don't hear that often and i'll be honest with you it's

and i'll be honest with you it's probably not my favorite warlock record

probably not my favorite warlock record but i didn't know if anybody else was

but i didn't know if anybody else was going to show this and i wanted

going to show this and i wanted everybody to

everybody to hear warlock in this conversation so i

hear warlock in this conversation so i pulled out warlocks burning the witches

pulled out warlocks burning the witches yeah i hadn't showed it because i don't

yeah i hadn't showed it because i don't own a single warlock album oh you're

own a single warlock album oh you're kidding you don't notice i don't know

kidding you don't notice i don't know i actually don't either

i actually don't either i mean i've i've i've owned a couple

i mean i've i've i've owned a couple more

more that's very surprising is there a you

that's very surprising is there a you know that's a great uh

know that's a great uh is there a reason why you guys just did

is there a reason why you guys just did you not does it i've seen doral a couple

you not does it i've seen doral a couple times she was great i like some of that

times she was great i like some of that stuff it just never turns up in front of

stuff it just never turns up in front of me it's never a band i'm hunting for

me it's never a band i'm hunting for actually i just recently watched a doro

actually i just recently watched a doro pesh documentary on uh youtube that was

pesh documentary on uh youtube that was in german it was very good very good

in german it was very good very good document or more reason she is she is

document or more reason she is she is [ __ ] metal she is totally fine i mean

[ __ ] metal she is totally fine i mean she she is anybody watching man

she she is anybody watching man dora pesh is is metal

dora pesh is is metal she sacrificed

she sacrificed her life she did being a heavy metal

her life she did being a heavy metal band yep absolutely she you know

band yep absolutely she you know never got married never had children she

never got married never had children she didn't go down those paths of life

didn't go down those paths of life nope

nope because she wanted to be available and

because she wanted to be available and be able to

be able to drop everything at a moment's notice to

drop everything at a moment's notice to do tours and shows

do tours and shows in the name of metal for heavy metal

in the name of metal for heavy metal that's what she loves she says she's

that's what she loves she says she's married to metal

married to metal she's a metal goddess man it's [ __ ]

she's a metal goddess man it's [ __ ] yours

yours so i i so well it makes me even more

so i i so well it makes me even more glad that i showed this that again

glad that i showed this that again probably not my favorite warlock record

probably not my favorite warlock record it's not you know no which is your

it's not you know no which is your favorite which is your favorite honestly

favorite which is your favorite honestly i'm gonna i'm gonna say that you know

i'm gonna i'm gonna say that you know trying for an agony i love trying

trying for an agony i love trying see i think for me because you know i

see i think for me because you know i like spellbound which is a record after

like spellbound which is a record after this but yeah you know true steel's

this but yeah you know true steel's great

great oh

oh i do like i do like triumph and agony so

i do like i do like triumph and agony so much

much she her voice just

she her voice just she really got so great with her voice

she really got so great with her voice you know and um

you know and um [Music]

[Music] yeah she's metal but it just

her voice resonated so much on that record i'm trying for agony and uh and

record i'm trying for agony and uh and in the songs and you know so that's

in the songs and you know so that's probably my favorite of them you know

probably my favorite of them you know this you know maybe third fourth

this you know maybe third fourth favorite play on fourth maybe

favorite play on fourth maybe um but still so i just wanted to mention

um but still so i just wanted to mention it because i didn't know if you guys

it because i didn't know if you guys would and i just you know warlock is a

would and i just you know warlock is a good [ __ ] band and you know

good [ __ ] band and you know horrible for uh

horrible for uh the flag for her whole life man [ __ ]

the flag for her whole life man [ __ ] metal queen man

metal queen man yeah and yeah i know a lot of a lot of

yeah and yeah i know a lot of a lot of women get that title in metal you know

women get that title in metal you know uh expect you know like uh lita ford

uh expect you know like uh lita ford lita ford and some of the arch at the

lita ford and some of the arch at the old arch enemy singer what was her name

old arch enemy singer what was her name uh

uh angela

that's great you know all the power to those

those fine women but uh doral is is

fine women but uh doral is is the metal queen man she she sacrificed

the metal queen man she she sacrificed her life to to in the in the name of

her life to to in the in the name of metal and there's no greater sacrifice

metal and there's no greater sacrifice if you're a [ __ ] metalhead

alan all right

all right one of my favorite bands ever and i

one of my favorite bands ever and i think this is most people's favorite

think this is most people's favorite album by them

album by them we got to talk karis ungle i had it

we got to talk karis ungle i had it under the dead

under the dead hmm

hmm this is yeah second full-length album

this is yeah second full-length album and you know the one where they there

and you know the one where they there you go ken absolutely you know this is

you go ken absolutely you know this is elmore they really go full-on you know

elmore they really go full-on you know apocalyptic metal uh frost and fire

apocalyptic metal uh frost and fire their debut is a great album it still

their debut is a great album it still has one foot heavily entrenched in the

has one foot heavily entrenched in the 70s uh which is fine i love it it's got

70s uh which is fine i love it it's got a fantastic sound but

a fantastic sound but this album is very 80 sound and they

this album is very 80 sound and they they you know you know greg lindstrom's

they you know you know greg lindstrom's not on it of course which makes a

not on it of course which makes a difference but uh

difference but uh yeah everything about this album the

yeah everything about this album the killer cover fantasy artwork um

killer cover fantasy artwork um for michael whalen um you know all the

for michael whalen um you know all the tracks are great it's not my favorite

tracks are great it's not my favorite curious uncle as much as i love it um i

curious uncle as much as i love it um i think some of their other albums

think some of their other albums that one foot in hell is amazing uh

that one foot in hell is amazing uh paradise lost although it has some duds

paradise lost although it has some duds on it has some killer tracks killer

on it has some killer tracks killer tracks i play paradise lost more than

tracks i play paradise lost more than any other kyrie thunkle album that's

any other kyrie thunkle album that's paradise lost freaking rules the troll

paradise lost freaking rules the troll troll

troll isn't that the cover they do of uh what

isn't that the cover they do of uh what is it the uh the

is it the uh the arthur brown's fire that's it

arthur brown's fire that's it uh joined the legions on there before

uh joined the legions on there before the lashes

the lashes oh so many killers but i mean this

oh so many killers but i mean this album's i mean got it is loaded too it's

album's i mean got it is loaded too it's got adam smasher on it uh black machine

got adam smasher on it uh black machine you know king of the dead uh crown upon

you know king of the dead uh crown upon his head king of all the dead

his head king of all the dead yeah

yeah nobody sounds like his voice baker's

nobody sounds like his voice baker's voice

voice baker was born onto this earth you know

baker was born onto this earth you know to sing the soundtrack to the apocalypse

to sing the soundtrack to the apocalypse that is his destiny it will happen one

that is his destiny it will happen one day if he dies first they will resurrect

day if he dies first they will resurrect and reanimate him when the time comes

and reanimate him when the time comes for the final battle

for the final battle the man's vocals are just insane i've

the man's vocals are just insane i've always loved this band they've never

always loved this band they've never made a bad album

made a bad album they're

they're a good example of a band coming back

a good example of a band coming back from the grave and actually doing it

from the grave and actually doing it right i

right i you folks that watches regularly will

you folks that watches regularly will know i'm real gun shy about reunion

know i'm real gun shy about reunion projects and

projects and getting the band back together after you

getting the band back together after you know a long time has passed these guys

know a long time has passed these guys you know have you know just you know

you know have you know just you know slayed since they got back together with

slayed since they got back together with their new releases but yeah the old

their new releases but yeah the old stuff cannot be denied kirith ungl uh

stuff cannot be denied kirith ungl uh you got those you know the iconic and i

you got those you know the iconic and i don't think it's on here but you know

don't think it's on here but you know the two yeah the two iconic you know the

the two yeah the two iconic you know the skeletons

skeletons kneeling in prayer to form the omega

kneeling in prayer to form the omega uh i mean coolest [ __ ] little band

uh i mean coolest [ __ ] little band logo thing ever

logo thing ever got a lot the poster behind you said you

got a lot the poster behind you said you were gonna pull that record out

were gonna pull that record out uh yep

uh yep next to the egg panzer and uh

there's a giant merciful fate banner over here and don't break the oath is

over here and don't break the oath is framed above uh the lamp so yeah

framed above uh the lamp so yeah i'll be honest i haven't gotten the news

i'll be honest i haven't gotten the news to the last earth uncle

to the last earth uncle it's great ken it is it is fantastic you

it's great ken it is it is fantastic you will like it

will like it you will not be disappointed this is a

you will not be disappointed this is a ken syrah uncle crypt come on man

that is the great thing about ken i i mean while you know he's of course you

mean while you know he's of course you know known and recognized you know the

know known and recognized you know the death metal authority

death metal authority he can talk you know middle from 1984 uh

he can talk you know middle from 1984 uh you know just as easily as he can talk

you know just as easily as he can talk euro death metal or

euro death metal or cyanides discography or anything else so

cyanides discography or anything else so yes

yes he was into this metal stuff before

he was into this metal stuff before death metal even existed as i say there

death metal even existed as i say there was metal before death yeah

was metal before death yeah and some really good metal at that but

and some really good metal at that but now marty it's your turn to pick one

now marty it's your turn to pick one all right

all right well

well i'm kind of surprised i beat ken to the

i'm kind of surprised i beat ken to the punch on this but we're going with

punch on this but we're going with war with satan by venom okay

war with satan by venom okay this for me is the last really good

this for me is the last really good venom record um that's fair i like

venom record um that's fair i like possessed but it's really rough the

possessed but it's really rough the production really sucks there's some

production really sucks there's some really shitty songs on it

really shitty songs on it i like cronuses calm before the storm i

i like cronuses calm before the storm i like

like i like demolition man era

i like demolition man era venom even but this is the last truly

venom even but this is the last truly good

good venom

venom with the the original power trio mantis

with the the original power trio mantis abaddon

abaddon which i will to this

which i will to this day he is the worst drummer in metal

day he is the worst drummer in metal he watches you watch the seven gates of

he watches you watch the seven gates of hell vhs he is so completely sloppy and

hell vhs he is so completely sloppy and out of time it is annoying i don't know

out of time it is annoying i don't know how the band plays with him because he

how the band plays with him because he is rough his time his meter is like this

is rough his time his meter is like this through the whole song it's it's

through the whole song it's it's ridiculous but they somehow did it and

ridiculous but they somehow did it and um

um you know what you got on here you got

you know what you got on here you got there's classics on here

there's classics on here at war with satan took up the first half

at war with satan took up the first half of the album

look at me satan's child born of evil thus defiled

thus defiled lyric sheet

lyric sheet um absolutely great what are the [ __ ]

um absolutely great what are the [ __ ] songs oh yeah

songs oh yeah um

um i don't know they're not giving me the

i don't know they're not giving me the song titles and i'm getting too drunk to

song titles and i'm getting too drunk to even [ __ ] worry about it at this

even [ __ ] worry about it at this point

point um

um genocide stand up and be counted rip

genocide stand up and be counted rip ride what a great [ __ ] song um

ride what a great [ __ ] song um woman leather and hell

woman leather and hell tip

tip so campy

so campy but you know venom they were great they

but you know venom they were great they had their place they influenced a

had their place they influenced a million bands they influenced metallica

million bands they influenced metallica they influenced you know all the bands a

they influenced you know all the bands a lot of the bands that we've shown today

lot of the bands that we've shown today you know have to do a little nod of

you know have to do a little nod of appreciation towards this band we're

appreciation towards this band we're just you know three drunk blokes from

just you know three drunk blokes from england

england you know trying to make a bigger stage

you know trying to make a bigger stage show than everybody else trying to throw

show than everybody else trying to throw on an actual theatrical

on an actual theatrical thing

thing you know they're shooting videos

you know they're shooting videos shooting vhs videos they had actual you

shooting vhs videos they had actual you know video videos

know video videos they're ahead of their time

they're ahead of their time you know singing satan's music singing

you know singing satan's music singing total shock rock type lyrics talking

total shock rock type lyrics talking about satan and stuff but

about satan and stuff but um

um they're one of the first ones to do it

they're one of the first ones to do it man hats off to them i love it

one of the first ones to do it very unapologetically not just trying to

unapologetically not just trying to cloak it in you know

cloak it in you know witchcraft tones or you know some kind

witchcraft tones or you know some kind of you know occult leanings it's just

of you know occult leanings it's just like you know satan satan satan satan

like you know satan satan satan satan satan satan hail satan hail satan satan

satan satan hail satan hail satan satan satan satan just very overt as they

satan satan just very overt as they could make it and it worked and it

could make it and it worked and it became classic at war with click

became classic at war with click [Laughter]

[Laughter] tracks i i i agree it's probably

venom record with the original lineup i don't know if it's the best but it's not

don't know if it's the best but it's not the

yeah with the original lineup um although i did like you know like

although i did like you know like resurrection i did like writing i did

resurrection i did like writing i did like some of that stuff too but justin

like some of that stuff too but justin stone i liked it let's talk about that

stone i liked it let's talk about that cast and stone the third lp has got that

cast and stone the third lp has got that them redoing the old classics and they

them redoing the old classics and they kind of rage on it yeah those three

kind of rage on it yeah those three together they kind of they those are

together they kind of they those are good covers of those original songs

good covers of those original songs yeah yeah so i did i did like

yeah yeah so i did i did like but like you said i think the original

but like you said i think the original you know

you know power trio of venom avadon mantis and

power trio of venom avadon mantis and kronos yep that might have been the last

kronos yep that might have been the last good

good i think it's prime evil

yeah i like it it's not the same but i like it

it's not the same but i like it it's not as good as the original the

it's not as good as the original the first person welcome to hell no it

first person welcome to hell no it certainly is not it's not black metal

but yeah all right oh yeah i had it i didn't yeah i hadn't shown it yet but

didn't yeah i hadn't shown it yet but ken you're messing oh i'm up again [ __ ]

ken you're messing oh i'm up again [ __ ] i gotta go pee again stupid okay um i'll

i gotta go pee again stupid okay um i'll show another um

show another um i'll show another

i'll show another i guess what i'll call obscure

i guess what i'll call obscure one

one um

um i don't know i don't know this one's

i don't know i don't know this one's so obscure so much obscure i think

so obscure so much obscure i think people might know this one when i show

people might know this one when i show it um

it um super dark super evil

super dark super evil you guys like evil satanic metal

you guys like evil satanic metal um they had a real evil streak to this

um they had a real evil streak to this to this

to this record but nice

record but nice walt burgess knight

walt burgess knight oh yeah

oh yeah good stuff just

good stuff just great heavy metal it you know it's got

great heavy metal it you know it's got all the elements of a good heavy metal

all the elements of a good heavy metal band um but they you know they had a

band um but they you know they had a dark streak to it they had something a

dark streak to it they had something a little more

little more evil sounding in the way they were

evil sounding in the way they were creating their refuge

creating their refuge and i think that's what uh you know i

and i think that's what uh you know i think that's what kind of drew drew me

think that's what kind of drew drew me and i think that probably drew a lot of

and i think that probably drew a lot of their fan base and was that they were

their fan base and was that they were they they had this dark streak to it you

they they had this dark streak to it you know as you can see even on this cover

know as you can see even on this cover you know that

you know that the evil looking uh you know witch

the evil looking uh you know witch there

there you know she's celebrating wall purges

you know she's celebrating wall purges night which is you know that's like some

night which is you know that's like some satanic kind of thing

satanic kind of thing so you know you knew what you were

so you know you knew what you were getting with the uh

getting with the uh you know with a cover like that you see

you know with a cover like that you see these guys on the back with the grim

these guys on the back with the grim reapers and you you kind of get it but

reapers and you you kind of get it but uh the music did play into it you know i

uh the music did play into it you know i played into the cover played into the

played into the cover played into the image

image um so good stuff for me was was this and

um so good stuff for me was was this and i'm a huge fan i was

i'm a huge fan i was a huge fan of this band have several

a huge fan of this band have several other records but um oh yeah yeah evil

other records but um oh yeah yeah evil streak heavy metal for sure man storm

streak heavy metal for sure man storm which uh good good stuff

which uh good good stuff excellent picking yeah that album i

excellent picking yeah that album i think is most people's favorite it has a

think is most people's favorite it has a little bit of a raw vibe to it than most

little bit of a raw vibe to it than most of their later ones um

of their later ones um i like a lot of their stuff but yeah

i like a lot of their stuff but yeah they got a little more polished over

they got a little more polished over time certainly by the fourth album they

time certainly by the fourth album they were getting a lot cleaned up uh they

were getting a lot cleaned up uh they did they got a yeah they got a little

did they got a yeah they got a little even more froggy i don't know if you saw

even more froggy i don't know if you saw marty i pulled out storm which

marty i pulled out storm which oh okay yeah i have not heard that band

oh okay yeah i have not heard that band but i've heard alan talking about him a

but i've heard alan talking about him a lot yeah it's good stuff yeah they

lot yeah it's good stuff yeah they always kept the horror element but yeah

always kept the horror element but yeah they kind of did like the gothic horror

they kind of did like the gothic horror angle you know the

angle you know the they did you know the dracula and

they did you know the dracula and werewolf kind of songs and frankenstein

werewolf kind of songs and frankenstein kind of songs and it worked well they

kind of songs and it worked well they they always wrote good you know hooks

they always wrote good you know hooks into their music even even later on when

into their music even even later on when they did get a little more

they did get a little more you know cleaned up and uh it was never

you know cleaned up and uh it was never commercial in the fm radio sands but you

commercial in the fm radio sands but you know definitely

know definitely they leaned in a little more more

they leaned in a little more more accessible direction but they still had

accessible direction but they still had good hooks and good songs even later

good hooks and good songs even later yeah

yeah which is good it's a little more it gets

which is good it's a little more it gets a little more

a little more polished

polished yeah froggy

yeah froggy a little bit

a little bit yeah i don't know

but yeah it gets a little more clean it gets

gets um it's not quite as dark street but i i

um it's not quite as dark street but i i mean i still enjoy some of the later

mean i still enjoy some of the later stormwick stuff oh probably not as much

stormwick stuff oh probably not as much as the earlier stuff like this one

as the earlier stuff like this one yeah um

yeah um but uh eric bauer said derek you should

but uh eric bauer said derek you should take it you should i mean if it's not

take it you should i mean if it's not you know terribly priced i don't know

you know terribly priced i don't know what that goes for but it's not terribly

what that goes for but it's not terribly pricey i would definitely pick it up

pricey i would definitely pick it up eric you know you won't be disappointed

eric you know you won't be disappointed in it it's yeah they've been they've

in it it's yeah they've been they've been reissued so they shouldn't be too

been reissued so they shouldn't be too bad to pick up yeah i would i would say

bad to pick up yeah i would i would say go for it eric if it's not terribly

go for it eric if it's not terribly overpriced

overpriced yeah the firs the first three albums are

yeah the firs the first three albums are all really solid german 80s metal uh

all really solid german 80s metal uh they would have fit in on the noise

they would have fit in on the noise roster so easily alongside things like

roster so easily alongside things like rage and gravedigger but they never were

rage and gravedigger but they never were they never were on noise

they never were on noise which has always surprised me that

which has always surprised me that that's on scratch records

that's on scratch records which was a real small german label

which was a real small german label is that what this was done

is that what this was done that's what my glasses on again i

that's what my glasses on again i haven't but yeah

haven't but yeah yep yeah which i think they i think

yep yeah which i think they i think scratch also did the avenger

scratch also did the avenger ep before they changed their name to

ep before they changed their name to rage and moved over to uh

rage and moved over to uh to noise

to noise avenger

avenger prayers are steel

that's green yep

yep so yeah there were a scratch had a few

so yeah there were a scratch had a few good metal signs but they were

good metal signs but they were reportedly a really small operation so

reportedly a really small operation so none of their bands really

none of their bands really really became much but yeah i was always

really became much but yeah i was always surprised stormwich never got onto noise

surprised stormwich never got onto noise but

but having read david's book on carl it may

having read david's book on carl it may have just been that he already felt like

have just been that he already felt like between grave digger and you know a

between grave digger and you know a couple of bands like that that he

couple of bands like that that he already had that niche covered and he

already had that niche covered and he just didn't need another band like storm

just didn't need another band like storm witch on his roster at the time you know

witch on his roster at the time you know what i as far as i was concerned

what i as far as i was concerned mausoleum could have put out every heavy

mausoleum could have put out every heavy metal record needs

metal record needs i never got released as far as i was

i never got released as far as i was concerned

mausoleum versus metal blade you know

you know mausoleum i i try to any if mazda if

mausoleum i i try to any if mazda if there was a record and it just had the

there was a record and it just had the mausoleum

mausoleum immediately bought it

immediately bought it yeah mausoleum kellogg has a lot of good

yeah mausoleum kellogg has a lot of good stuff in it for sure

all right alan you're up next all right uh well

all right uh well i'm surprised marty hasn't mentioned

i'm surprised marty hasn't mentioned this one yet so someone's got to do it

this one yet so someone's got to do it um

um maybe favorite album by the band maybe

maybe favorite album by the band maybe second favorite i'm not sure uh

second favorite i'm not sure uh open the gates manila road 1984.

open the gates manila road 1984. uh

uh this is the band at their you know

this is the band at their you know metallic prime they've got you know

metallic prime they've got you know those early albums are

those early albums are you know

you know fun you know they're

fun you know they're some of them are leaning more in the 70s

some of them are leaning more in the 70s sometimes refining their foot but uh by

sometimes refining their foot but uh by crystal logic you know they were just

crystal logic you know they were just flat out [ __ ] heavy

flat out [ __ ] heavy and this one follows up and they don't

and this one follows up and they don't miss a beat uh again killer

miss a beat uh again killer fantasy artwork cover

fantasy artwork cover uh just great songs throughout the thing

uh just great songs throughout the thing you know some of these songs are getting

you know some of these songs are getting you know faster and more aggressive

you know faster and more aggressive you can tell he's starting to get

you can tell he's starting to get influenced by that stuff just a little

influenced by that stuff just a little bit just a little bit

bit just a little bit just a little bit here and there yeah

just a little bit here and there yeah but you know it's got you know just you

but you know it's got you know just you know big massive anthems like you know

know big massive anthems like you know ninth wave on here

ninth wave on here uh you know astronomica is classic oh

uh you know astronomica is classic oh great song yeah the fires of mars you

great song yeah the fires of mars you know

know and those are the manila road tracks i

and those are the manila road tracks i like best from this era where they yeah

like best from this era where they yeah slow it down they almost get a little

slow it down they almost get a little bit you know doomy uh

bit you know doomy uh tinges worked into the music hour of the

tinges worked into the music hour of the dragon is great on here

dragon is great on here uh

uh really hard to

really hard to argue against this uh

argue against this uh it's again probably more pick crystal

it's again probably more pick crystal logic is my favorite over this one but

logic is my favorite over this one but this runs a strong second on hey the

this runs a strong second on hey the right day of the week i might pick this

right day of the week i might pick this one that's my favorite uh

one that's my favorite uh that that era of manila road you know

that that era of manila road you know that's you know their heyday um they of

that's you know their heyday um they of course did lots of other good stuff but

course did lots of other good stuff but right there

right there around 83 84

around 83 84 they clicked and just made outstanding

they clicked and just made outstanding stuff

i didn't pick any manila i didn't pick miller road because i i didn't start

miller road because i i didn't start getting into them until

getting into them until 89 or 98 99 2000.

89 or 98 99 2000. um

um a late late up to them well i think like

a late late up to them well i think like a lot of people

a lot of people that's a band that

that's a band that he finally came back and

he finally came back and was able to reap some of the rewards of

was able to reap some of the rewards of his past whereas when manila road was

his past whereas when manila road was happening back in the day not many

happening back in the day not many people gave a [ __ ] about manila road

people gave a [ __ ] about manila road which is sad because it was great

which is sad because it was great [ __ ] stuff

[ __ ] stuff yep

yep but thankfully you got to see that

but thankfully you got to see that people care now and he got to

people care now and he got to enjoy some of that success

enjoy some of that success with uh

with uh the last half of his career for sure

the last half of his career for sure yes he did get to he finally got you

yes he did get to he finally got you know the accolades he deserved yep

know the accolades he deserved yep all right marty what you got next

all right marty what you got next all right we're gonna go with

all right we're gonna go with trouble

trouble there it is chicago

there it is chicago psalm this is called trouble but

psalm this is called trouble but everybody refers to this as psalm nine

everybody refers to this as psalm nine um this is the white vinyl edition i

um this is the white vinyl edition i bought it for

bought it for 2.99

2.99 in mint condition

in mint condition during a time where

during a time where the wonderful time of the 90s where

the wonderful time of the 90s where people did not give a [ __ ] about lionel

people did not give a [ __ ] about lionel and i say i wish those times would come

and i say i wish those times would come back because i love going into record

back because i love going into record stores and buying these classics for

stores and buying these classics for [ __ ] dirt cheap but um

[ __ ] dirt cheap but um yeah i mean this is you know thanks to

yeah i mean this is you know thanks to metal blade uh metal blade um volume one

metal blade uh metal blade um volume one volume two whatever the those comps

volume two whatever the those comps turned me onto trouble i think my

turned me onto trouble i think my favorite trouble is run to the light

favorite trouble is run to the light but the first three are classics the

but the first three are classics the first four are classics and the fourth

first four are classics and the fourth album they start getting a little more

album they start getting a little more stoner rocky but um

stoner rocky but um this album is just really great chicago

this album is just really great chicago doom

doom traditional doom mixed with traditional

traditional doom mixed with traditional heavy metal

heavy metal they don't sound like stoner doom it's

they don't sound like stoner doom it's just really good dark [ __ ] doom

just really good dark [ __ ] doom record

record uh the tempter assassin

uh the tempter assassin bastards will pay um

victim of the insane great album really really great the debut album from this

really great the debut album from this band

band iconic

iconic t

t logo sigil absolutely great

logo sigil absolutely great um

um the lord will be refuge for the

the lord will be refuge for the oppressed a refuge in times of trouble

oppressed a refuge in times of trouble you know everybody talked to how about

you know everybody talked to how about these guys were a christian band they

these guys were a christian band they called them i think the label tried to

called them i think the label tried to push them as white metal

push them as white metal which they didn't really feel that was a

which they didn't really feel that was a very um suitable

very um suitable terminology for them but um

terminology for them but um you know they tend to they they're kind

you know they tend to they they're kind of like sabbath you know sabbath tended

of like sabbath you know sabbath tended to sing on the the side of the lord

to sing on the the side of the lord quite often although they were often

quite often although they were often misrepresented as being an evil band if

misrepresented as being an evil band if you listen to black sabbath's lyrics

you listen to black sabbath's lyrics there's a lot of positivity and light

there's a lot of positivity and light and jesus type stuff and i think trouble

and jesus type stuff and i think trouble that's just kind of the how they

that's just kind of the how they followed suit

followed suit they followed the sabbath

they followed the sabbath the sabbath uh trajectory into writing

the sabbath uh trajectory into writing lyrics do i think these guys were stone

lyrics do i think these guys were stone dead christians i don't know i honestly

dead christians i don't know i honestly i don't give a [ __ ] i don't care

i don't give a [ __ ] i don't care great great absolute doom from chicago

great great absolute doom from chicago ken stomping ground

ken stomping ground oh yeah

oh yeah yeah yeah a lot of cool things like

yeah yeah a lot of cool things like about that even you if you want to call

about that even you if you want to call him a christian metal band that's fine

him a christian metal band that's fine i always thought they were a good

i always thought they were a good example of how you could do

example of how you could do christian metal very well without just

christian metal very well without just having to beat people over the head with

having to beat people over the head with you know jesus loves you

you know jesus loves you you know la la la he is the rock you

you know la la la he is the rock you know that was always a weakness for a

know that was always a weakness for a lot of christian bands was you know they

lot of christian bands was you know they could play heavy metal just fine but

could play heavy metal just fine but lyrically they got so stuck on just

lyrically they got so stuck on just hammering the message that you got tired

hammering the message that you got tired of it and trouble did not do that uh you

of it and trouble did not do that uh you know if they had any of those themes

know if they had any of those themes worked into the lyrics it was much you

worked into the lyrics it was much you know

know they were much more clever on how they

they were much more clever on how they did it and it worked well

did it and it worked well but yeah lots of neat things about that

but yeah lots of neat things about that album it was the first thing metal blade

album it was the first thing metal blade did on colored vinyl

did on colored vinyl the white vinyl white metal band kind of

the white vinyl white metal band kind of connection there was kind of fun it was

connection there was kind of fun it was the first uh

the first uh non

non la area band that metal blade signed and

la area band that metal blade signed and released something by

released something by uh everything up to that point had

uh everything up to that point had always been had been southern california

always been had been southern california for the label

for the label and yes they have that classic

and yes they have that classic uh what i think of you know is a very

uh what i think of you know is a very classic chicago metal sound which can

classic chicago metal sound which can maybe you can build on but it seemed

maybe you can build on but it seemed like a lot of bands from that era in

like a lot of bands from that era in chicago had that

chicago had that they weren't i wouldn't call them doomy

they weren't i wouldn't call them doomy bands but they had that doomy tinge

bands but they had that doomy tinge overlaying on this classic heavy metal

overlaying on this classic heavy metal structure with bands like trouble and

structure with bands like trouble and enforcer and battalion and war cry and

enforcer and battalion and war cry and stuff

i can't stand trouble why

why the worst [ __ ] bandit ever came out

the worst [ __ ] bandit ever came out of chicago but anyways

of chicago but anyways everybody i know i just pissed off

everybody i know i just pissed off everybody in the comments and i guess

everybody in the comments and i guess [ __ ]

[ __ ] i get so much [ __ ] for my friends here

i get so much [ __ ] for my friends here in chicago

in chicago i cannot [ __ ] stay in trouble

my weird take on them is i actually like the 90s stoner stuff more than i like

the 90s stoner stuff more than i like the 80s stuff i am going to pass on

the 80s stuff i am going to pass on trouble thank you

trouble thank you that's okay can i interest you in some

that's okay can i interest you in some war cry good sir war cry we can talk

war cry good sir war cry we can talk about war cry funeral [ __ ] death strike

about war cry funeral [ __ ] death strike and master all day but

we could talk about tyrant's reign uh we could talk about all sorts of chicago

could talk about all sorts of chicago bands with trouble paradox

bands with trouble paradox paradox

paradox um

um trouble

trouble you'll find no trouble here

you'll find no trouble here he has no trouble with trouble it's not

he has no trouble with trouble it's not considered trouble there will be no

considered trouble there will be no trouble here um

trouble here um anyways we'll move on

anyways we'll move on absolutely whose turn is it it's yours

absolutely whose turn is it it's yours it's mine

it's mine with that said i'm gonna show this

with that said i'm gonna show this trouble record

yeah um all right so i'm just i'm gonna keep in the uh the obscure

keep in the uh the obscure stuff um

stuff um this one i got for about whopping dollar

this one i got for about whopping dollar 36 it looks like um

i think this is like super power metal e for 1984 with steel warrior

for 1984 with steel warrior you want some like again you know more

you want some like again you know more look at that cover look at that cover

look at that cover look at that cover colored pencils are back

colored pencils are back i drew that

i drew that [Laughter]

[Laughter] your sister

your sister good

good huh

huh power metal i think you stun professor

power metal i think you stun professor steele oh i don't know this one

steele oh i don't know this one i mean i recall it's really good power

i mean i recall it's really good power metal ish heavy metal it says metal

metal ish heavy metal it says metal music

music it should be the law that's what it says

it should be the law that's what it says metal music it should be the law so

metal music it should be the law so where are those guys from

where are those guys from uh they're from new jersey

uh they're from new jersey or new york actually new york oh look at

or new york actually new york oh look at professor steele scrambling to his

professor steele scrambling to his keeper

actually they have a couple records out this is just this is the one from 84

this is just this is the one from 84 it's actually an ep

it's actually an ep it's only four songs on it but um yeah

it's only four songs on it but um yeah pretty obscure you know again steel

pretty obscure you know again steel steel meat steel sorcery metal somebody

steel meat steel sorcery metal somebody just said slaughter extraordinary damn

just said slaughter extraordinary damn right slaughter destroys well that's a

right slaughter destroys well that's a chicago band right

chicago band right there yeah this good stuff you well you

there yeah this good stuff you well you know if you guys like you know if

know if you guys like you know if there's any fans out here looking for

there's any fans out here looking for something um from the 80s that's you

something um from the 80s that's you know again steel on steel swords and

know again steel on steel swords and sorcery kind of metal

sorcery kind of metal this is your this is your jam and a

this is your this is your jam and a steel warrior

steel warrior that is cool yeah i do not know this one

that is cool yeah i do not know this one i'll have to check that out you'll like

i'll have to check that out you'll like it

it you're going to love it marty i don't

you're going to love it marty i don't know you might might need might it's a

know you might might need might it's a bit well if you like if you like

bit well if you like if you like battleground you might like that

battleground you might like that colored pencil sold a lot in 84

colored pencil sold a lot in 84 apparently

apparently what's that

what's that rick says uh colored pencils sold a lot

rick says uh colored pencils sold a lot in 84. it's yeah it's a but you know in

in 84. it's yeah it's a but you know in 84 that was like the [ __ ] right in 1984

84 that was like the [ __ ] right in 1984 you know as a 14 year old kid

you know as a 14 year old kid i'm buying this if i'm in the middle

i'm buying this if i'm in the middle right

right yeah another 14 year old kid drew it

yeah another 14 year old kid drew it right i mean i'm gonna buy you know

right i mean i'm gonna buy you know steel warriors man be part of the

steel warriors man be part of the warrior club yeah you know

warrior club yeah you know i mean yeah why not

i mean yeah why not at the age of 14.

at the age of 14. well

well you're gonna have to remortgage the

you're gonna have to remortgage the house to get a copy of that alan what do

house to get a copy of that alan what do you how do you feel about this is this

you how do you feel about this is this right i tried my turkey hat for it

right i tried my turkey hat for it does this ruin your christmas dreams

does this ruin your christmas dreams no it gives me something to ask santa

no it gives me something to ask santa for all right why is it expensive

for all right why is it expensive i don't know it probably i've never

i don't know it probably i've never [ __ ] ever heard of it oh yeah i have

[ __ ] ever heard of it oh yeah i have no idea i have no idea i don't know oh

no idea i have no idea i don't know oh wait well aaron the metal theologian

wait well aaron the metal theologian says seal warriors is really bad i'm

says seal warriors is really bad i'm warning you

warning you he says it's really bad

he says it's really bad i don't think it's that bad

i don't think it's that bad all right who is up next it is alan it

all right who is up next it is alan it is me all right so simon's been asking

is me all right so simon's been asking for it for a while and uh i've held off

for it for a while and uh i've held off long enough

long enough uh we got to talk

uh we got to talk warlord the cannons of defense of

warlord the cannons of defense of destruction

warlord is unknown but also well-known uh

uh most folks of course think deliver us

most folks of course think deliver us yeah the first thing they did

yeah the first thing they did ah you know it's a weird band you know

ah you know it's a weird band you know it's mostly just a studio project kind

it's mostly just a studio project kind of a sessions you know

of a sessions you know thing and you know there's overlap you

thing and you know there's overlap you know they had guys come in and out of

know they had guys come in and out of the band but

the band but music just you know

music just you know freaking incredible powerful

freaking incredible powerful uh

uh but yeah very very clean at the same

but yeah very very clean at the same time uh you know

time uh you know very talented great tracks you know

very talented great tracks you know start to finish this is

start to finish this is again they had deliver us which is like

again they had deliver us which is like one of those little you know six track

one of those little you know six track mini

mini lps or long eps you know they've got you

lps or long eps you know they've got you know this album and then

know this album and then they had another album but it was

they had another album but it was basically almost just a lot of the songs

basically almost just a lot of the songs redone overall it only had one or two

redone overall it only had one or two originals on the last album so the

originals on the last album so the discography is very weird you know which

discography is very weird you know which again it really wasn't a functioning

again it really wasn't a functioning band overall but uh yeah they've come to

band overall but uh yeah they've come to be you know a huge influence on a lot of

be you know a huge influence on a lot of things to come

things to come and yeah got this in a little record

and yeah got this in a little record store in texas in the mid 90s that same

store in texas in the mid 90s that same era marty when not only was you know

era marty when not only was you know vinyl dead metal in the u.s was also

vinyl dead metal in the u.s was also very dead so

very dead so getting metal vinyl in the mid 90s and

getting metal vinyl in the mid 90s and his stores were

his stores were just elated if you would come in and

just elated if you would come in and offer them money for it

offer them money for it you know you i had the store i got this

you know you i had the store i got this from the guy

from the guy it was a very small store and the guy

it was a very small store and the guy had put like a lot of his personal

had put like a lot of his personal collection stuff out there and you could

collection stuff out there and you could tell nobody even picked these records up

tell nobody even picked these records up you know probably you know in months if

you know probably you know in months if not years and i went in and started just

not years and i went in and started just you know systematically buying my way

you know systematically buying my way through his collection over you know

through his collection over you know months and months and we got you know

months and months and we got you know got to talk and got to know him a really

got to talk and got to know him a really good fellow but uh

good fellow but uh yeah

yeah this excellent material couldn't i

this excellent material couldn't i couldn't believe i walked into that

couldn't believe i walked into that store and found he had that and deliver

store and found he had that and deliver us

us i bought both of those and he had the

i bought both of those and he had the first pressing of sabotage's sirens with

first pressing of sabotage's sirens with on the big blue ship cover

on the big blue ship cover sitting there on the racks right next to

sitting there on the racks right next to like you know the newest releases by

like you know the newest releases by whatever the hell kids were buying in

whatever the hell kids were buying in 1996

1996 uh cd music

uh cd music and somebody mentioned holy empire that

and somebody mentioned holy empire that is a good record

is a good record that is a very good record for later

that is a very good record for later material and so as somebody else

material and so as somebody else mentioned uh deliver us

mentioned uh deliver us deliver shia is great some of the i

deliver shia is great some of the i haven't heard a lot of the lordy and

haven't heard a lot of the lordy and guard stuff that uh samus did later on

guard stuff that uh samus did later on but i know a lot of folks really like

but i know a lot of folks really like that

that i had that lording guard on vinyl i gave

i had that lording guard on vinyl i gave it to my buddy scott for his birthday

it to my buddy scott for his birthday because he really wanted it

because he really wanted it good deal all right

good deal all right you know what i pulled something out

you know what i pulled something out real quick just a quick oh yeah 1997 i

real quick just a quick oh yeah 1997 i was in vegas with some buddies we went

was in vegas with some buddies we went to vegas for a weekend of debauchery

to vegas for a weekend of debauchery and uh for yeah we went for a few days

and uh for yeah we went for a few days but anyways um

but anyways um i went to a record store

i went to a record store looking around

looking around you know it's fairly

you know it's fairly you know fairly nice record stores i'm

you know fairly nice record stores i'm picking up a few things here and here a

picking up a few things here and here a couple records in my hand

couple records in my hand i go over to the dvd or the vhs

i go over to the dvd or the vhs section and i'm looking around at movies

section and i'm looking around at movies and stuff and i pull this one thing out

and stuff and i pull this one thing out and

and look like this

look like this oh yep

oh yep and i was like um

and i was like um what's this

what's this yep the video that went with it asked

yep the video that went with it asked the guy at the comments

the guy at the comments is this

is this like what i think it is

like what i think it is and he had an eight dollar i took the

and he had an eight dollar i took the tag off but he had it was eight dollars

tag off but he had it was eight dollars on this tag and i said

on this tag and i said he says oh i'm not sure i said is this

he says oh i'm not sure i said is this like the video that came with the record

like the video that came with the record like

like order the vhs from the record

order the vhs from the record because i you know who had 20 bucks to

because i you know who had 20 bucks to blow on you know a vhs at the time in

blow on you know a vhs at the time in the 80s i i didn't yeah that's nice you

the 80s i i didn't yeah that's nice you know is this that

know is this that he was all i don't know i said well do

he was all i don't know i said well do you have a you know do you have like a

you have a you know do you have like a tv vhs i can plug this into you just

tv vhs i can plug this into you just play

play he's like no

he's like no that's well i don't really want to pay

that's well i don't really want to pay dollars some i don't know what it is i

dollars some i don't know what it is i said i'd like to like see it like to

said i'd like to like see it like to make sure that's what this is i think it

make sure that's what this is i think it says it is

says it is he says yeah no

he says yeah no i said well can you

i said well can you do anything on the eight bucks

do anything on the eight bucks for a few bucks or something

for a few bucks or something and he says

and he says no i can't really do that and i'm like

no i can't really do that and i'm like all right

all right so i'm just kind of looking at him like

so i'm just kind of looking at him like well you know screw this guy down you

well you know screw this guy down you know you're not gonna help me out with

know you're not gonna help me out with this i'm not gonna so i just put my

this i'm not gonna so i just put my stuff on the counter i'm like yeah i'm

stuff on the counter i'm like yeah i'm just gonna i'm i'm gonna pass it in

just gonna i'm i'm gonna pass it in so i start walking out well as i'm

so i start walking out well as i'm walking out i go through the cd you know

walking out i go through the cd you know this is cds i'm literally gonna leave

this is cds i'm literally gonna leave the store i'm not gonna make a purchase

the store i'm not gonna make a purchase at this point

at this point um

um omen warning of danger on cd

omen warning of danger on cd motorbike catches mine i think well i'd

motorbike catches mine i think well i'd like to have this on cd

like to have this on cd and i'm looking at it and i'm thinking

and i'm looking at it and i'm thinking now this guy's already pissed me off so

now this guy's already pissed me off so i'm not gonna eat i'm not gonna buy it

i'm not gonna eat i'm not gonna buy it so i put it back and i'm just about to

so i put it back and i'm just about to walk out i gotta say man hey and i said

walk out i gotta say man hey and i said yeah and he goes i can do four bucks on

yeah and he goes i can do four bucks on it

it i said all right i'll take it for four

i said all right i'll take it for four bucks she goes you want the rest of this

bucks she goes you want the rest of this stuff i said yeah give me the rest of

stuff i said yeah give me the rest of those records and the cd so i bought

those records and the cd so i bought everything

everything yeah this was and the canons of

yeah this was and the canons of destruction have begun i got it in 1897

destruction have begun i got it in 1897 the actual

the actual vhs that you could have ordered from the

vhs that you could have ordered from the from the record

from the record i think my record still has a slip in it

i think my record still has a slip in it this is it and it was it's [ __ ]

this is it and it was it's [ __ ] immaculate and it looks [ __ ] great

immaculate and it looks [ __ ] great and i i couldn't believe i got it

and i i couldn't believe i got it i got the vhs i mean you can watch it

i got the vhs i mean you can watch it now on you know youtube and hi-def and

now on you know youtube and hi-def and everything

everything but to have gotten in 1997 and i got to

but to have gotten in 1997 and i got to like watch that and i like dubbed it for

like watch that and i like dubbed it for like 20 people

like 20 people yeah it was like that was that was just

yeah it was like that was that was just for four dollars that's cool four

for four dollars that's cool four dollars i got it down to four bucks

dollars i got it down to four bucks that's the first original copy of that

that's the first original copy of that i've seen yeah i've always known about

i've seen yeah i've always known about the dvd i've never seen an original

the dvd i've never seen an original before but i wish i could say that oh i

before but i wish i could say that oh i bought this one i ordered this from the

bought this one i ordered this from the record no i didn't

record no i didn't 1997 the record store in las vegas

1997 the record store in las vegas nevada nice all places

but all right that's what happens when your metal had you go

your metal had you go to record stores oh yeah you're doing

to record stores oh yeah you're doing this i have dreams about record shopping

this i have dreams about record shopping i love it

i love it they're my favorite i'm not the only one

they're my favorite i'm not the only one no

no and every time i have the dream it's

and every time i have the dream it's always

always in detroit there there was i don't know

in detroit there there was i don't know if there still is there was a

if there still is there was a record store called car city records

record store called car city records the the store

the the store didn't really have much of anything back

didn't really have much of anything back my friends took me to it they're like

my friends took me to it they're like dude there isn't anything in here i'm

dude there isn't anything in here i'm like let me dig let me dig so i'm

like let me dig let me dig so i'm digging digging digging but in my dream

digging digging digging but in my dream it's always car city records but i'm

it's always car city records but i'm finding like all these really awesome

finding like all these really awesome old thrash records i'm like oh my god

old thrash records i'm like oh my god it's like a dream every time i wake up

it's like a dream every time i wake up from i'm pissed it's always the same

from i'm pissed it's always the same dream too it's one they only cost a

dream too it's one they only cost a quarter a piece yeah exactly like wow

quarter a piece yeah exactly like wow it's like i'm in the 90s where people

it's like i'm in the 90s where people just were giving [ __ ] vinyl away but

just were giving [ __ ] vinyl away but it's like i have those dreams where i'm

it's like i have those dreams where i'm looking i'm look i'm looking and there's

looking i'm look i'm looking and there's you know the parallax white lightning ep

you know the parallax white lightning ep the excalibur ep

the excalibur ep i thought the frog on original vinyl and

i thought the frog on original vinyl and they're only a dollar a piece and then i

they're only a dollar a piece and then i wake up

wake up yep

yep oh my god cinna arcadia production says

oh my god cinna arcadia production says that sounded like an episode of pawn

that sounded like an episode of pawn stars

the the heckling or

heckling or haggling for the the warlord lp or

haggling for the the warlord lp or videotape

videotape but it's kind of hard to not to talk

but it's kind of hard to not to talk about metallica to talk about metal

about metallica to talk about metal church and not mention this band

i figured you'd pull that out this is it i've got the vinyl as well and the cd

i've got the vinyl as well and the cd but this is the original tape i bought

but this is the original tape i bought back in the day

back in the day and um 98 of this album was written by

and um 98 of this album was written by dan loker who went on to form

dan loker who went on to form nuclear assault

nuclear assault with john conley and he went on to be in

with john conley and he went on to be in brutal truth and a whole bunch of other

brutal truth and a whole bunch of other underground things

underground things but this is their most their most heavy

but this is their most their most heavy metal record this is i was gonna say

metal record this is i was gonna say that's not trash yet that's not thrash

that's not trash yet that's not thrash this isn't thrash this is just you know

this isn't thrash this is just you know glad

glad heavy metal slash us power metals speed

heavy metal slash us power metals speed metal whatever you want to call this

metal whatever you want to call this but with uh the vocalist this is pre

but with uh the vocalist this is pre joey belladonna this is neil turbin on

joey belladonna this is neil turbin on vocals who had a great voice this is a

vocals who had a great voice this is a great album it's a really stupid [ __ ]

great album it's a really stupid [ __ ] cover but man what a great album i mean

cover but man what a great album i mean you've got

you've got a death rider you've got metal fresh and

a death rider you've got metal fresh and mad

mad which is a classic uh again

which is a classic uh again how do you feel about the cover i'm 18.

how do you feel about the cover i'm 18. not a big fan of that song

not a big fan of that song panic subjugator

panic subjugator uh soldiers of metal step from above

uh soldiers of metal step from above anthrax across the river and howling

anthrax across the river and howling furies

i'm an anthrax fan and i think once they got back together with joey their last

got back together with joey their last two albums are really good

two albums are really good i don't i don't really see a lot of

i don't i don't really see a lot of people talking about worship music or

people talking about worship music or um for all kings i think i listed both

um for all kings i think i listed both those albums a lot i thought they were

those albums a lot i thought they were really good but there's a lot of charm

really good but there's a lot of charm and heart and really good songwriting on

and heart and really good songwriting on this first anthrax album fistful of

this first anthrax album fistful of metal

metal it wasn't metallica maybe not but it

it wasn't metallica maybe not but it definitely sits on the same throne for

definitely sits on the same throne for sure

sure good stuff

good stuff what's your favorite what's your

what's your favorite what's your favorite bio

favorite bio um persistence of time

um persistence of time i love among the living it's a great i

i love among the living it's a great i love that record too but persistence of

love that record too but persistence of time is anthrax but dark you know they

time is anthrax but dark you know they have a lot of dark themes on that record

have a lot of dark themes on that record um

um good that's a good record i mean i like

good that's a good record i mean i like a lot of the early stuff too but

a lot of the early stuff too but not john bush not john i'm not a john

not john bush not john i'm not a john bush fan and armored saint everybody

bush fan and armored saint everybody talks about how great he is

talks about how great he is i don't know

i don't know i don't know

oh my god eric bauer says state of euphoria is the best come on i like

euphoria is the best come on i like stadium i like it too but it's a little

stadium i like it too but it's a little goofy it's a goofy it is

goofy it's a goofy it is yeah all right

yeah all right anthrax for me is i like the odd

anthrax for me is i like the odd numbered albums a lot more than the even

numbered albums a lot more than the even numbered albums so fistful

numbered albums so fistful among the living and persistence a lot

among the living and persistence a lot more than state of euphoria or uh

more than state of euphoria or uh the

the spreading the disease

spreading the disease right or yeah

okay ken you're up next oh me again um all right i'll keep in the um

um all right i'll keep in the um [Music]

[Music] i think this record was a little

i think this record was a little although it's on a big label

although it's on a big label it's on road runner um

it's on road runner um you know people talked about this ban a

you know people talked about this ban a lot this came out in 84. i just thought

lot this came out in 84. i just thought this i always liked that i liked their

this i always liked that i liked their couple records they put out spartan

couple records they put out spartan warrior

warrior oh yeah

that's that shitty heavy metal big [ __ ] chickadee

big [ __ ] chickadee [Laughter]

[Laughter] [Music]

again you know i just want to show some records that don't get talked about a

records that don't get talked about a lot you know um ever talking about 1984

lot you know um ever talking about 1984 this was released in 84. it's just got

this was released in 84. it's just got the you know trashy heavy metal vibes

the you know trashy heavy metal vibes you know again probably not going to

you know again probably not going to make anybody's top 10 except the band

make anybody's top 10 except the band you know the band this is probably the

you know the band this is probably the best album the band's ever heard

best album the band's ever heard but um

but um you know it's it's a it's it's solid

you know it's it's a it's it's solid it's

it's got a lot of thrash stuff going on it's

got a lot of thrash stuff going on it's got some heavy metal stuff going on so

got some heavy metal stuff going on so they blended both together pretty good

they blended both together pretty good and road runner thought it was pretty

and road runner thought it was pretty good you know because they put it on

good you know because they put it on it's it's a pretty good uh pretty cool

it's it's a pretty good uh pretty cool pretty cool stuff but again just a

pretty cool stuff but again just a record and a release and a bay that

record and a release and a bay that doesn't get talked about a lot and

doesn't get talked about a lot and it's kind of one of those lost gems

it's kind of one of those lost gems forever

forever in the annals of heavy metals so

in the annals of heavy metals so yeah check out spartan warrior yeah

yeah check out spartan warrior yeah that's a good pick and it's a it's a new

that's a good pick and it's a it's a new wave of british heavy metal band that's

wave of british heavy metal band that's starting to move out of the new wave of

starting to move out of the new wave of british heavy metal

british heavy metal they really moved out of it because they

they really moved out of it because they got some super thrashy influence on that

got some super thrashy influence on that record so they really started that they

record so they really started that they they got super thrash at least to me i

they got super thrash at least to me i heard a lot of trashy vibe to it so it's

heard a lot of trashy vibe to it so it's um yeah yeah you see you really yeah you

um yeah yeah you see you really yeah you see those those british bands you know

see those those british bands you know leaving that you know the new wave of

leaving that you know the new wave of british heavy metal formula behind and

british heavy metal formula behind and that's a good example

that's a good example of that yeah cool man they did i think

of that yeah cool man they did i think they did a second album but i can't

they did a second album but i can't remember the name of it why did that why

remember the name of it why did that why did new wave of british heavy metal like

did new wave of british heavy metal like just start to

just start to like die in 1984

like die in 1984 because things start getting heavier

because things start getting heavier some things were getting heavier a lot

some things were getting heavier a lot of folks have mentioned you know that

of folks have mentioned you know that the uh the british music press you know

the uh the british music press you know uh had completely lost interest and so

uh had completely lost interest and so as

as metal things that were coming out then

metal things that were coming out then were

were getting you the big thumbs down all of a

getting you the big thumbs down all of a sudden and they were kind of you know

sudden and they were kind of you know starting to focus on other you know

starting to focus on other you know movements and styles so that uh

movements and styles so that uh you know they

you know they you know they lost a lot of you know the

you know they lost a lot of you know the support and the music press wasn't there

support and the music press wasn't there and i guess a lot of those bands you

and i guess a lot of those bands you know by that point

know by that point you know if you'd been one of the first

you know if you'd been one of the first bands on the scene you'd already been at

bands on the scene you'd already been at it you know four years or so you've done

it you know four years or so you've done your album you've done a couple of

your album you've done a couple of singles there were now a hundred bands

singles there were now a hundred bands just like you um yeah it's probably

just like you um yeah it's probably about the point where a lot of bands

about the point where a lot of bands were hitting that age where it's just

were hitting that age where it's just like okay

like okay it's probably time to

it's probably time to you know grow up and get a job and you

you know grow up and get a job and you know take care of the

know take care of the take care of the family i'm not 18

take care of the family i'm not 18 anymore i'm 22

anymore i'm 22 which was a big difference back then uh

which was a big difference back then uh more so than it is today for folks

more so than it is today for folks you know what i'm trying to do i'm

you know what i'm trying to do i'm trying to get some of those uh some of

trying to get some of those uh some of my some of our friends that run youtube

my some of our friends that run youtube channels out of england trying to get

channels out of england trying to get them to embrace that

them to embrace that new wave of british death metal with all

new wave of british death metal with all these english death metal bands that are

these english death metal bands that are coming out and they should they should

coming out and they should they should re-embrace that terminology and use it

re-embrace that terminology and use it as a phase anyway that's my opinion but

as a phase anyway that's my opinion but yeah i've seen that i've seen that

yeah i've seen that i've seen that popping up in a couple of videos

popping up in a couple of videos that's worth two bits around here so

well yeah cool yeah but just you know a band that

band that doesn't get talked about a lot and i

doesn't get talked about a lot and i just i'm trying to show more obscure

just i'm trying to show more obscure stuff at this point because i think

stuff at this point because i think we're we've hit on a lot of the you know

we're we've hit on a lot of the you know the big well there's still a couple big

the big well there's still a couple big guys nobody's hitting on which there are

guys nobody's hitting on which there are you guys don't

um alan

alan yep all right uh wendy was asking for

yep all right uh wendy was asking for this one uh wendy's been in the chat all

this one uh wendy's been in the chat all night uh holding me rules how are you

night uh holding me rules how are you doing thank you wendy thank you before

doing thank you wendy thank you before you know wendy you guys know i know

you know wendy you guys know i know wendy from way back in the day way back

wendy from way back in the day way back i do not but uh glad to have you in the

i do not but uh glad to have you in the chat tonight wendy but this was one she

chat tonight wendy but this was one she was hoping would show up and uh just

was hoping would show up and uh just been uh waiting for the right moment uh

been uh waiting for the right moment uh st vitus uh

st vitus uh makes their debut in 84 with uh again i

makes their debut in 84 with uh again i never know whether to call these things

never know whether to call these things mini albums or

mini albums or long eps or what but uh you know we you

long eps or what but uh you know we you know five new really great slabs of

know five new really great slabs of sabbath inspired doom here um

sabbath inspired doom here um you know this is new uh obviously you

you know this is new uh obviously you know dave chandler you know and scott

know dave chandler you know and scott rieger's you know just you know crazy

rieger's you know just you know crazy great sound on it uh you've got white

great sound on it uh you've got white magic black magic is classic uh my

magic black magic is classic uh my favorite's always been zombie hunger

favorite's always been zombie hunger that's you know such a cool song and it

that's you know such a cool song and it really

really you know shows them you know being that

you know shows them you know being that you know really dirty

you know really dirty grungy grimy side of doom

grungy grimy side of doom you know do middle in the early 80s is

you know do middle in the early 80s is you know really you know few and far

you know really you know few and far between and the bands you know kind of

between and the bands you know kind of each did their own thing a little bit

each did their own thing a little bit you know you had candle masks you know

you know you had candle masks you know would get you know the sort of you know

would get you know the sort of you know big epic sound uh

big epic sound uh which finder general had you know a

which finder general had you know a little bit more of you know the

little bit more of you know the straightforward you know

straightforward you know uh 4-4 rock sound um and then yeah you

uh 4-4 rock sound um and then yeah you had saint vitus just making it sound

had saint vitus just making it sound really creepy and weird and just doing

really creepy and weird and just doing an excellent job of it

an excellent job of it so yeah definitely had st vitus in the

so yeah definitely had st vitus in the stack for tonight

all right well this is my last one and i thought i

well this is my last one and i thought i would land on a non-metal album

would land on a non-metal album okay my uh my wife wanted me to come and

okay my uh my wife wanted me to come and show seven in the ragged tiger by duran

show seven in the ragged tiger by duran duran but i told her that uh alan would

duran but i told her that uh alan would uh

uh personally fly up here and uh

personally fly up here and uh cut my head off if i did something like

cut my head off if i did something like that but

that but tricky don't play that

tricky don't play that [Laughter]

[Laughter] um

um i'm gonna have to go with another band

i'm gonna have to go with another band this is a big band for me

this is a big band for me i heard them later in my life but i'm

i heard them later in my life but i'm going back to 1984.

going back to 1984. gotta talk about skinny puppy now this

gotta talk about skinny puppy now this is a two cd set of bites and remission

is a two cd set of bites and remission remission is the 1984 album

remission is the 1984 album this band if you're a metal head and you

this band if you're a metal head and you don't like skinny puppy

don't like skinny puppy i get it but man there's there's a lot

i get it but man there's there's a lot of there's a

of there's a undeniable darkness that comes along

undeniable darkness that comes along with this music it's pure electronic

with this music it's pure electronic music but i have never heard a more

music but i have never heard a more nightmarish band in my entire life than

nightmarish band in my entire life than skinny puppy

skinny puppy remission is not their most nightmarish

remission is not their most nightmarish album it's got

album it's got the big song on this album is uh

the big song on this album is uh smothered hope

smothered hope but it's got uh far too frail sleeping

but it's got uh far too frail sleeping beast um

a whole bunch out this is a it's more of their dancier it's the early dancy stuff

their dancier it's the early dancy stuff this was before dwayne

this was before dwayne patel was part of the band

patel was part of the band uh after he joined this [ __ ] really got

uh after he joined this [ __ ] really got twisted and nightmarish but um

twisted and nightmarish but um skinny puppy remission i would really

skinny puppy remission i would really recommend if you're a metal head and you

recommend if you're a metal head and you have a slight interest in electronic

have a slight interest in electronic music check out skinny puppy like albums

music check out skinny puppy like albums like a mind the perpetual intercourse

like a mind the perpetual intercourse and um

and um um

um um

um i'm drawing a blank right now because my

i'm drawing a blank right now because my kid was just standing there wanting to

kid was just standing there wanting to interrupt me

interrupt me um damn it

um damn it cleanse fold manipulate very nightmarish

cleanse fold manipulate very nightmarish it's just like this heavy driven

it's just like this heavy driven industrial music with these nightmarish

industrial music with these nightmarish elements thrown over the top amazing

elements thrown over the top amazing amazing stuff

amazing stuff um yeah exactly sean

um yeah exactly sean skinny puppy is so much darker than many

skinny puppy is so much darker than many metal it's really true and if you're a

metal it's really true and if you're a metalhead check them out especially if

metalhead check them out especially if you're like oh i like ministry well

you're like oh i like ministry well skinny puppy takes big devil shits on

skinny puppy takes big devil shits on ministry all day long in fact al tried

ministry all day long in fact al tried to become a part of skinny puppy on the

to become a part of skinny puppy on the rabies album kind of messed them up a

rabies album kind of messed them up a little bit but um

little bit but um check out skinny puppy

check out skinny puppy that's what i'm saying

that's what i'm saying ken you're next i don't think anybody

ken you're next i don't think anybody else here has a comment on that

else here has a comment on that all right well i have i mean we did you

all right well i have i mean we did you guys a show we'll we can end it whenever

guys a show we'll we can end it whenever oh i'm good just because i'm done you

oh i'm good just because i'm done you got stuff to show show it oh i got that

got stuff to show show it oh i got that rack to show but i'm we're not we don't

rack to show but i'm we're not we don't we don't want to see me that long but um

we don't want to see me that long but um a big okay this is a big man nobody's

a big okay this is a big man nobody's shown that

shown that big band

big band oh yeah

oh yeah that's a good feeling that's a good

that's a good feeling that's a good album i like it this is a good record uh

album i like it this is a good record uh you know i

you know i might be some people's favorite saxon um

might be some people's favorite saxon um i don't know if it's my favorite by

i don't know if it's my favorite by saxon but i think i've heard this

saxon but i think i've heard this mentioned by a lot of people that this

mentioned by a lot of people that this is their favorite saxon record crusader

is their favorite saxon record crusader um you know and you can't you know

um you know and you can't you know there's no bad answer to it um saxon's

there's no bad answer to it um saxon's got some got a killer discography

got some got a killer discography great you know great you know their 70s

great you know great you know their 70s records were so hard rock always leaning

records were so hard rock always leaning to the heavier side of hard rock

to the heavier side of hard rock you know new wave of british heavy metal

you know new wave of british heavy metal then you know like we said here there's

then you know like we said here there's still some of that obviously on this

still some of that obviously on this album um but starting to like allen had

album um but starting to like allen had said you know with some of these other

said you know with some of these other bands that were new wave of british

bands that were new wave of british heavy metal starting to break off into

heavy metal starting to break off into the more heavy metal stream of things a

the more heavy metal stream of things a little more of a power metal

little more of a power metal vibe to them at this point

vibe to them at this point getting away from the more rock and roll

getting away from the more rock and roll kind of vibe of their 70s and new wave

kind of vibe of their 70s and new wave of british heavy metal vibe um crusader

of british heavy metal vibe um crusader man so yeah good good solid record no

man so yeah good good solid record no one no i didn't mention it was just this

one no i didn't mention it was just this point so i figured

point so i figured for a big band for for a big name band

for a big band for for a big name band saxon yeah that's a good inclusion

saxon yeah that's a good inclusion that's one people never used to talk

that's one people never used to talk about but i think it's developed a good

about but i think it's developed a good following over the years

following over the years yeah i i agree just one of those ones

yeah i i agree just one of those ones that

that yeah

yeah people for some reason forgotten they

people for some reason forgotten they forget about you know and they yeah

forget about you know and they yeah but it does stand the test of time you

but it does stand the test of time you know it's a good record you put it on

know it's a good record you put it on today it's a rocking record somebody the

today it's a rocking record somebody the metal man keeps talking about uh

metal man keeps talking about uh hammer's rule i do have that by the way

hammer's rule i do have that by the way metal mayhem i have him i have that

metal mayhem i have him i have that record um i did not pull it i didn't

record um i did not pull it i didn't pull everything out i couldn't pull

pull everything out i couldn't pull everything out from 84.

everything out from 84. before we jump off the saxon tip i gotta

before we jump off the saxon tip i gotta say i liked early saxon

say i liked early saxon but um i got turned down to these three

but um i got turned down to these three records

killing ground lionheart

lionheart and the inner sanctum this is saxon

and the inner sanctum this is saxon trying to go a bit more power metal

trying to go a bit more power metal influenced yep these three albums really

influenced yep these three albums really [ __ ] rule especially

[ __ ] rule especially this album in particular is really

this album in particular is really really really

really really really good what year is that album uh

really good what year is that album uh 2 000

2 000 it's all later 2001

it's all later 2001 this is 2004. i don't have any of those

this is 2004. i don't have any of those this is they're probably the most power

this is they're probably the most power metal record and this is

metal record and this is 2007. i'll have to check those out yeah

2007. i'll have to check those out yeah those are one this is my favorite of the

those are one this is my favorite of the three but all three of these are really

three but all three of these are really good really good this and their their

good really good this and their their latest one thunder hearts or thunder or

latest one thunder hearts or thunder or something or other i don't own it yet

something or other i don't own it yet but it's also really really good um i

but it's also really really good um i was really surprised how good these

was really surprised how good these records were i really check this one out

records were i really check this one out ken check out killing ground listen to

ken check out killing ground listen to it on spotify before you jump in on it

it on spotify before you jump in on it but i really enjoyed these albums a lot

but i really enjoyed these albums a lot oh that's cool yeah see i don't have any

oh that's cool yeah see i don't have any of the later stuff from them

of the later stuff from them i'm trying to remember the last saxon on

i'm trying to remember the last saxon on my bot was like what's the one something

my bot was like what's the one something about the dogs

about the dogs [Music]

[Music] something dog it's got the word dog in

something dog it's got the word dog in it dogs

it dogs that's all i think i remember but

that's all i think i remember but you know um rock the nations man oh dogs

you know um rock the nations man oh dogs of war that's a dog's world okay

of war that's a dog's world okay thunderbolts the latest it's what i've

thunderbolts the latest it's what i've heard of it's really good it's just in

heard of it's really good it's just in league with those three for sure really

league with those three for sure really it's the saxon early saxon but with more

it's the saxon early saxon but with more of a power metal

of a power metal power and triumph to it it's really good

power and triumph to it it's really good they

they really came around they played traverse

really came around they played traverse city less than a mile from my house i

city less than a mile from my house i didn't go which is so dumb i don't know

didn't go which is so dumb i don't know why i didn't go closer

why i didn't go closer yeah it was them in ufo before pete day

yeah it was them in ufo before pete day died

died oh man i'm surprised you didn't go to

oh man i'm surprised you didn't go to that i'm surprised i'm so dumb i don't

that i'm surprised i'm so dumb i don't know why i didn't [ __ ] go okay

know why i didn't [ __ ] go okay you didn't go to that there was

you didn't go to that there was apparently nobody there they're like

apparently nobody there they're like well we're gonna rock who's here

well we're gonna rock who's here you know type of thing doesn't that suck

you know type of thing doesn't that suck for a band like saxon ufo why the [ __ ]

for a band like saxon ufo why the [ __ ] didn't i go to that show i'm so stupid

didn't i go to that show i'm so stupid listen seriously i could almost hit that

listen seriously i could almost hit that building with a rock from where i live i

building with a rock from where i live i didn't go

didn't go i'm gonna go see you i don't want to pay

i'm gonna go see you i don't want to pay 25

25 so

so dumb

dumb anyway

anyway the problem is you start missing the

the problem is you start missing the couch after about being there after

couch after about being there after about 30 minutes you know it's like i

about 30 minutes you know it's like i feel like i really ain't too much ramen

feel like i really ain't too much ramen for dinner i'm just like a bloated

for dinner i'm just like a bloated [ __ ] whales laying on the couch

[ __ ] whales laying on the couch oh watch it on

youtube all right who's next alan yeah i'll go through some fast to start uh to

i'll go through some fast to start uh to start wrapping some things up some uh

start wrapping some things up some uh i'm gonna go again there's too many good

i'm gonna go again there's too many good ones to cover but so yeah i'll burn

ones to cover but so yeah i'll burn through uh the end of my stack here um

through uh the end of my stack here um a good obscure one that uh and ken's had

a good obscure one that uh and ken's had a lot of great obscure ones tonight one

a lot of great obscure ones tonight one you haven't mentioned yet ken uh

you haven't mentioned yet ken uh medieval steel

medieval steel steel they did their ep in 84 little

steel they did their ep in 84 little bandai they were what tennessee i

bandai they were what tennessee i remember right

remember right from tennessee kentucky

from tennessee kentucky yeah

yeah yeah not not exactly a haven for metal

yeah not not exactly a haven for metal but uh this is uh long been considered

but uh this is uh long been considered like one of the best of the sort of

like one of the best of the sort of private press independent releases from

private press independent releases from the mid-80s u.s um

the mid-80s u.s um and this ban this was another band that

and this ban this was another band that at least you know got to come back

at least you know got to come back around and play some of the big

around and play some of the big festivals in europe and uh

festivals in europe and uh you were just absolutely blown away by

you were just absolutely blown away by the reception they got they made this

the reception they got they made this one you know little ep that's hard to

one you know little ep that's hard to get not many people ever heard it and

get not many people ever heard it and they you know went to greece and played

they you know went to greece and played some of these things and you know

some of these things and you know they've got thousands of people chanting

they've got thousands of people chanting the words to every song so it was really

the words to every song so it was really cool that they got you know recognition

cool that they got you know recognition eventually a few seven inches i'll show

eventually a few seven inches i'll show off

off sometimes we don't talk a lot about

sometimes we don't talk a lot about singles as heavy metal but uh getting

singles as heavy metal but uh getting cool stuff like assassin out of

cool stuff like assassin out of southern california uh

southern california uh this was a great they did a song here

this was a great they did a song here called treason that is just an ass

called treason that is just an ass kicking barn burner it was on one of the

kicking barn burner it was on one of the uh

uh compilation albums from the era uh

compilation albums from the era uh excellent band assassin

excellent band assassin another colorado band when uh dead

another colorado band when uh dead silence with the long silence is over 45

silence with the long silence is over 45 um

um this

this one i'm trying to remember uh yeah i've

one i'm trying to remember uh yeah i've talked to a guy who used to run a small

talked to a guy who used to run a small indie label that did reissue stuff later

indie label that did reissue stuff later on and this was the one band that he was

on and this was the one band that he was in contact with that he didn't get to

in contact with that he didn't get to release some stuff by he's like that he

release some stuff by he's like that he really wished he could have it just

really wished he could have it just never they never quite got everything

never they never quite got everything worked out basis like you know he the

worked out basis like you know he the man sent me the tapes i heard the stuff

man sent me the tapes i heard the stuff and it was just

and it was just great music it would have been a great

great music it would have been a great album and we just couldn't get the

album and we just couldn't get the details worked out to ever get it

details worked out to ever get it released but uh

released but uh cool single from colorado

cool single from colorado uh

uh this is one that a lot of collectors

this is one that a lot of collectors like out of canada a band called

like out of canada a band called minotaur

minotaur with burner

with burner uh

uh again just really solid

again just really solid straightforward uh

straightforward uh heavy metal perfect for the time

heavy metal perfect for the time um

um a few last albums to quickly go through

a few last albums to quickly go through should have given this one more

should have given this one more attention but hell stars

attention but hell stars you know texas had a huge metal scene

you know texas had a huge metal scene early in the early days and uh hellstar

early in the early days and uh hellstar is one of the best with james rivera

is one of the best with james rivera incredible vocalist

incredible vocalist again

again i'm sorry what morning colored [ __ ]

i'm sorry what morning colored [ __ ] pencils again sorry yeah this one got

pencils again sorry yeah this one got reissued with like a starships kind of a

reissued with like a starships kind of a sci-fi

sci-fi cover so you don't see this older this

cover so you don't see this older this is the old combat pressing uh but yeah

is the old combat pressing uh but yeah great album

great album uh they did four incredible albums in

uh they did four incredible albums in their original run

their original run you had uh pretty maids deserves a shout

you had uh pretty maids deserves a shout out for red hot and heavy in 1984.

out for red hot and heavy in 1984. uh you know this band of course got you

uh you know this band of course got you pretty commercial and accessible pretty

pretty commercial and accessible pretty quickly but this still has things like

quickly but this still has things like back to back on it

back to back on it uh red hot and heavy the title track is

uh red hot and heavy the title track is a stomper so

a stomper so excellent things there

excellent things there uh you get back over into germany you've

uh you get back over into germany you've got the little known but much loved

got the little known but much loved brain fever did capture the night that

brain fever did capture the night that first year this album was just a such

first year this album was just a such has such a warm thick uh catchy sound to

has such a warm thick uh catchy sound to it uh really really strong that's a good

it uh really really strong that's a good record

record it isn't a great record

it isn't a great record man booty

we probably could have used more colored pencils to give them some clothes there

pencils to give them some clothes there but uh

but uh yeah give it a look gonna give them a

yeah give it a look gonna give them a pair of shorts at least yeah and to wrap

pair of shorts at least yeah and to wrap up with somebody else that probably

up with somebody else that probably needed a little more clothing on the

needed a little more clothing on the album cover we mentioned it before but

album cover we mentioned it before but savage grace was the master of disguise

savage grace was the master of disguise in 1984

in 1984 uh

you got that pressing with uh then it was redone i think this is black dragon

was redone i think this is black dragon with slightly different cover

with slightly different cover and of course the picture disc they said

and of course the picture disc they said guys you got to change the cover and

guys you got to change the cover and like okay sure we'll change the cover

like okay sure we'll change the cover and so they put this on the cover

and so they put this on the cover so i was like yeah that's not quite what

so i was like yeah that's not quite what we had in mind guys

but sam is great amazing band um you know

know and i always mispronounced the

and i always mispronounced the guitarist's name but you know really

guitarist's name but you know really good

good they never could quite nail down a

they never could quite nail down a stable lineup unfortunately they had

stable lineup unfortunately they had i think three different vocalists on the

i think three different vocalists on the first three owl releases i know they had

first three owl releases i know they had at least two yeah yeah yeah did but

at least two yeah yeah yeah did but still great stuff absolutely so um i'm

still great stuff absolutely so um i'm finally at the bottom of my 1984 stack

finally at the bottom of my 1984 stack and i know folks in the comments are

and i know folks in the comments are still calling out great stuff like

still calling out great stuff like armored yeah that we haven't gotten to

armored yeah that we haven't gotten to but i i am at the bottom of the stack

but i i am at the bottom of the stack for the night so ken

for the night so ken yeah i don't so i try to so

yeah i don't so i try to so for this guys and i appreciate you guys

for this guys and i appreciate you guys uh for having me on thank you so much

uh for having me on thank you so much for talking about it

for talking about it to talk about these 1984 releases but so

to talk about these 1984 releases but so i tried to challenge myself and i

i tried to challenge myself and i actually didn't research these i tried

actually didn't research these i tried to go by memory and then what i did is i

to go by memory and then what i did is i pulled them and then i checked to make

pulled them and then i checked to make sure they were from 1984 so i did miss

sure they were from 1984 so i did miss stuff like that medieval steel because i

stuff like that medieval steel because i didn't remember that and that brain

didn't remember that and that brain fever i didn't remember that

fever i didn't remember that um so then i checked to make sure there

um so then i checked to make sure there was only like three that

was only like three that um like that exciter was one i thought

um like that exciter was one i thought that was 84 it was 85

that was 84 it was 85 um so anyways i try to challenge myself

um so anyways i try to challenge myself with my knowledge which sometimes

with my knowledge which sometimes doesn't work but anyways i don't

doesn't work but anyways i don't remember every single one of these

remember every single one of these because i haven't listened to them in a

because i haven't listened to them in a while but

while but it was one that i think was good

it was one that i think was good charon what the hell is on that cover

charon what the hell is on that cover yes uh somebody blowing like fire

yes uh somebody blowing like fire like it looks like a penis in her mouth

like it looks like a penis in her mouth or it's his mouth oh you know what i

or it's his mouth oh you know what i mean

mean someone might think that

someone might think that it kind of looks like that cadaver what

it kind of looks like that cadaver what was the one we showed a couple weeks ago

was the one we showed a couple weeks ago marty the big old

marty the big old penis what the carnivorous penis

penis what the carnivorous penis erection thing oh yeah

erection thing oh yeah i regurgitate yeah

i regurgitate yeah it's like oh yeah

it's like oh yeah yeah i have that

yeah i have that uh

uh chariot the warrior oh no when you

chariot the warrior oh no when you mentioned spartan warrior i wondered if

mentioned spartan warrior i wondered if you'd show chariot too sherry that's

you'd show chariot too sherry that's what i recall it's pretty good it's not

what i recall it's pretty good it's not mausoleum so you know it's good

mausoleum so you know it's good um

um well here's a band nobody mentioned

well here's a band nobody mentioned tonight but

tonight but oh yeah yep

oh yeah yep we did not we should have

we did not we should have ah there you go jurgen says fire wasn't

ah there you go jurgen says fire wasn't what i saw

what i saw i saw a big old [ __ ] veiny dick

i saw a big old [ __ ] veiny dick it was a flame of fire

it was a flame of fire [Music]

that's a great album another mausoleum classic battle axe

classic battle axe yep

yep [Music]

[Music] here's one this i love this band

here's one this i love this band never i think he's reissued i think it

never i think he's reissued i think it doesn't get talked about cuddy stark

doesn't get talked about cuddy stark heroes oh yeah what a dumb cuff jesus

heroes oh yeah what a dumb cuff jesus christ i don't even know what to be

christ i don't even know what to be terrible it's heroes yeah it's like hero

terrible it's heroes yeah it's like hero oh he oh it's excalibur he's pulling the

oh he oh it's excalibur he's pulling the sword out of the stone i guess he's not

sword out of the stone i guess he's not pulling [ __ ] out of that stone that's

pulling [ __ ] out of that stone that's awful yeah you're right it's awful it's

awful yeah you're right it's awful it's a mausoleum so i had to buy it

a mausoleum so i had to buy it um here's one that nope i don't know

um here's one that nope i don't know darkheart oh that's an excellent album

darkheart oh that's an excellent album excellent

excellent reminds me a lot of uh incubus to the

reminds me a lot of uh incubus to the devil a daughter it does got a more of a

devil a daughter it does got a more of a rock and roll kind of theme yeah

rock and roll kind of theme yeah really really good really good catchy

really really good really good catchy guitar lines

guitar lines rights of chaos i haven't seen that in a

rights of chaos i haven't seen that in a long time oh man i forgot about that

long time oh man i forgot about that album on ebony records yep yep that was

album on ebony records yep yep that was a good label i have a ton of

a good label i have a ton of great cover i like to cover that more

great cover i like to cover that more evil evil's message from denmark denmark

evil evil's message from denmark denmark yep best song time read the song title

yep best song time read the song title ken you got to read it

ken you got to read it the song title yep you know um

the song title yep you know um evil's message not that one well the

evil's message not that one well the devil wants me son of a

devil wants me son of a take [ __ ] care of your balls

take [ __ ] care of your balls there we go

that's how it reads and it's a good song it's actually a

and it's a good song it's actually a good song i did honestly i haven't

good song i did honestly i haven't played that record so long um i love

played that record so long um i love this chateau

this chateau this is actually i love i like this

this is actually i love i like this record their best album in my opinion

record their best album in my opinion yeah i love it

yeah i love it i do have another one by the this is new

i do have another one by the this is new every british heavy metal if i recall

every british heavy metal if i recall right sire

right sire sayer sire yeah yep i don't think i've

sayer sire yeah yep i don't think i've heard that one yeah no right i think i

heard that one yeah no right i think i believe so i have an effort that guy

believe so i have an effort that guy means business

means business [ __ ] mustache is business they'll go

[ __ ] mustache is business they'll go the mustache business that's on the back

the mustache business that's on the back of that [ __ ] record

of that [ __ ] record siren vane

siren vane oh yeah that's um

oh yeah that's um yeah

yeah i haven't heard that in forever that's

i haven't heard that in forever that's another one on ebony yep

another one on ebony yep yeah like i said you know you look at

yeah like i said you know you look at all that i mean you know who's not gonna

all that i mean you know who's not gonna he's not gonna if you're into metal

he's not gonna if you're into metal who's not gonna buy that

who's not gonna buy that i don't know it could be terrible i'm

i don't know it could be terrible i'm still gonna buy it

still gonna buy it steel tower night of the dog

steel tower night of the dog don't know that this is probably not

don't know that this is probably not really good but it's it was on mausoleum

really good but it's it was on mausoleum so i had

it's more hard rock heavy metal and then nobody mentioned

heavy metal and then nobody mentioned tank

tank uh i don't know any tank believe it or

uh i don't know any tank believe it or not oh

i think it's a good but i got rid of it for some [ __ ]

but i got rid of it for some [ __ ] reason and i could have pulled out a

reason and i could have pulled out a hundred more and honestly

hundred more and honestly um i'm surprised nobody pulled out the

um i'm surprised nobody pulled out the uh van halen 1984.

uh van halen 1984. did you see the uh it ain't that kind of

did you see the uh it ain't that kind of facebook allen i did i did

facebook allen i did i did it

it and i was i should have pulled it like i

and i was i should have pulled it like i thought about like i should probably

thought about like i should probably pull it out like

pull it out like the record i mean

the record i mean don't own it

don't own it oh i have it i have it

oh i have it i have it uh we we start showing uh van halen

uh we we start showing uh van halen records and that's when alan's got to

records and that's when alan's got to jump

jurgens right jurgen uh i'm sorry am i pronouncing that right sir jurgen

pronouncing that right sir jurgen jordan jurgen jurgen jurgen

jordan jurgen jurgen jurgen jurgen jurgen um steel tower the

jurgen jurgen um steel tower the vocalist this man became uh heaven's

vocalist this man became uh heaven's gates vocalist

gates vocalist oh really for sale and um

oh really for sale and um hysteria yeah

hysteria yeah i didn't oh yeah okay

i didn't oh yeah okay that's why i've heard that name before i

that's why i've heard that name before i didn't make the connection until you

didn't make the connection until you said that i liked those records too oh

said that i liked those records too oh yeah heaven's gate was great

yeah heaven's gate was great yeah excellent german power metal you

yeah excellent german power metal you like that stuff uh do you like that

like that stuff uh do you like that heaven's gate marty i have not heard it

heaven's gate marty i have not heard it oh

oh really it's uh sasha paths uh he was a

really it's uh sasha paths uh he was a guitarist before he became the big uh

guitarist before he became the big uh you know he went on to a big production

you know he went on to a big production career uh

career uh he does excellent production but yeah it

he does excellent production but yeah it was uh heaven's gate he played guitar on

was uh heaven's gate he played guitar on that

that sean sean is saying uh nobody pulled up

sean sean is saying uh nobody pulled up i was gonna

i was gonna i forgot tonight i'm brock and i

i forgot tonight i'm brock and i i think i was at the time i was put

i think i was at the time i was put again i was trying to challenge myself

again i was trying to challenge myself to remember this stuff and i i looked at

to remember this stuff and i i looked at that record and i'm like i don't think

that record and i'm like i don't think it was 84.

it was 84. and i could probably put it back

and i could probably put it back is 84.85 it probably is a four

is 84.85 it probably is a four i didn't check like you said i try to

i didn't check like you said i try to challenge myself but not

challenge myself but not and and not research before i

and and not research before i like i just yeah yeah it's listed as 84.

like i just yeah yeah it's listed as 84. it's it's a good record it's obviously

it's it's a good record it's obviously you know

you know it's you know fate's warning you know

it's you know fate's warning you know first steps you know it's essentially

first steps you know it's essentially they're just their demo put on vinyl

they're just their demo put on vinyl basically it's basically this is the the

basically it's basically this is the the bonsai records pressing which has got a

bonsai records pressing which has got a different cover than the us pressing

different cover than the us pressing which is a really bad color pencil i

which is a really bad color pencil i mean this is colored pencil too and then

mean this is colored pencil too and then they also have a third version of this

they also have a third version of this which is just the moon on it

which is just the moon on it but um you know the the best song on

but um you know the the best song on this is well the kiss of death and damn

this is well the kiss of death and damn damnation is probably the best song on

damnation is probably the best song on this record that's the version i have

this record that's the version i have yeah this is great

yeah this is great i mean they got way better on the album

i mean they got way better on the album after this and of course awaken the

after this and of course awaken the guardian is [ __ ]

guardian is [ __ ] classic in my

classic in my [ __ ] small little boat but

[ __ ] small little boat but um but uh yeah marty that artwork does

um but uh yeah marty that artwork does show up on the metal blade press too

show up on the metal blade press too it does yeah yeah the uh here's the

it does yeah yeah the uh here's the first

first first the first cover is this one yep

first the first cover is this one yep which yeah they wish they had colored

which yeah they wish they had colored pencils on this one

pencils on this one but yeah that's it's a metal blade press

but yeah that's it's a metal blade press and so because this cover sucks so bad

and so because this cover sucks so bad they're like don't worry guys we'll make

they're like don't worry guys we'll make it better we'll make it better

it better we'll make it better we'll still metal blade press we'll

we'll still metal blade press we'll replace it with this cover arch oh so

replace it with this cover arch oh so they did release it as okay yep they

they did release it as okay yep they sure did and then yes finally uh later

sure did and then yes finally uh later when i got reissued that's just the

when i got reissued that's just the cassette card but that's the yeah

cassette card but that's the yeah that's the best cover this album ever

that's the best cover this album ever had it's not i like those i like the one

had it's not i like those i like the one where they're overlooking the town even

where they're overlooking the town even though it's really terrible i like i

though it's really terrible i like i like it

like it uh they're fun for what they are but i

uh they're fun for what they are but i mean you know

mean you know if you're you're like a young metal band

if you're you're like a young metal band you're like you know trying to you know

you're like you know trying to you know prove your metal and get up there and

prove your metal and get up there and conquer the world with your music

conquer the world with your music and you go you got your record deal

and you go you got your record deal you're the hot [ __ ] in town and the

you're the hot [ __ ] in town and the artist proofs come back it's like this

artist proofs come back it's like this is what your album's going to look like

is what your album's going to look like guys

guys you you know they had to [ __ ] their

you you know they had to [ __ ] their pants when they saw that [ __ ]

pants when they saw that [ __ ] yeah like what is that what i don't know

yeah like what is that what i don't know i don't get the knight on bro what does

i don't get the knight on bro what does that mean first off what's brocking uh

that mean first off what's brocking uh brock i'm probably gonna butcher this i

brock i'm probably gonna butcher this i believe it's a mountain in germany

believe it's a mountain in germany that's associated with the walpurgis

that's associated with the walpurgis knight uh ceremonies and witchcraft

knight uh ceremonies and witchcraft paganism stuff so i'm pretty sure this

paganism stuff so i'm pretty sure this is supposed to be the witch standing up

is supposed to be the witch standing up on brocken

on brocken is the first problem

it's almost like what's that famous painting uh saturday in the park kind of

painting uh saturday in the park kind of thing like

thing like that famous like

that famous like i just love the expression on her faces

i just love the expression on her faces like hmm i'm being burned at the stake

like hmm i'm being burned at the stake yeah whatevs

yeah whatevs i wonder what tiffany and britney are

i wonder what tiffany and britney are doing this weekend at the mall hmm oh

doing this weekend at the mall hmm oh wait am i on fire

oh wendy said she's lots of records mentioned here i'll have to re-watch and

mentioned here i'll have to re-watch and take notes wow

take notes wow so he's taking notes tea time on broken

so he's taking notes tea time on broken brian yep there you go

brian yep there you go yeah wendy's mentioned a few other good

yeah wendy's mentioned a few other good ones that we have not mentioned tonight

ones that we have not mentioned tonight like somebody kept mentioning hammer's

like somebody kept mentioning hammer's rule and i do have that i didn't i

rule and i do have that i didn't i didn't realize that was 84.

didn't realize that was 84. well we covered a lot of ground and

well we covered a lot of ground and there's no way we're going to get it all

there's no way we're going to get it all because let's let's admit it there's you

because let's let's admit it there's you know

know granted back then in 84 there were less

granted back then in 84 there were less bands than there are today but um

bands than there are today but um there's still a [ __ ] ton of bands and a

there's still a [ __ ] ton of bands and a lot of new bands and the one thing about

lot of new bands and the one thing about the 84 a lot more bands had their own

the 84 a lot more bands had their own unique sound

unique sound would you agree that times have kind of

would you agree that times have kind of changed in that regard

my nature correction is yes at the same time

at the same time i do wonder if some of that's just a

i do wonder if some of that's just a product of us having heard so much over

product of us having heard so much over the years that through that you start to

the years that through that you start to you don't dive as deep into the bands as

you don't dive as deep into the bands as you used to and so you don't really pick

you used to and so you don't really pick up the nuances that give them their

up the nuances that give them their individuality the way you did when you

individuality the way you did when you were

were 16 and you played the same handful of

16 and you played the same handful of tapes for a month straight on your

tapes for a month straight on your walkman

walkman so i i'm always my gender reaction is to

so i i'm always my gender reaction is to agree but

agree but i always do wonder if

i always do wonder if if we were all you know 20 year olds you

if we were all you know 20 year olds you know

know listening to

listening to you know

you know ginger and

ginger and you know code orange and stuff if we

you know code orange and stuff if we wouldn't be so zeroed on how

wouldn't be so zeroed on how individualistic all those bands are and

individualistic all those bands are and how all this old stuff just sounded the

how all this old stuff just sounded the same to us i don't know true

same to us i don't know true true

true i remember uh

i remember uh back in the day a friend of mine was in

back in the day a friend of mine was in a band here in town

a band here in town he was big into in flames jester race

he was big into in flames jester race and a bunch of other stuff along those

and a bunch of other stuff along those lines and i was playing him

lines and i was playing him voivod killing technology

voivod killing technology he's like i don't know dude this [ __ ]

he's like i don't know dude this [ __ ] just kind of sounds like glam metal to

just kind of sounds like glam metal to me

me i'm like i just wanted to punch him in

i'm like i just wanted to punch him in the [ __ ] face repeatedly i'm like

the [ __ ] face repeatedly i'm like what the [ __ ] did you just say

what the [ __ ] did you just say glam metal

glam metal but i get it i mean wherever wherever

but i get it i mean wherever wherever whatever era you jump in on that's what

whatever era you jump in on that's what you relate to and you listen to stuff

you relate to and you listen to stuff you listen to that early voivod you

you listen to that early voivod you listen to a lot of records we've shown

listen to a lot of records we've shown tonight it might sound like glam metal

tonight it might sound like glam metal to you if you're used to listening to

to you if you're used to listening to rotted or you know

rotted or you know whatever the hell

whatever the hell say this you know who knows you know the

say this you know who knows you know the heavier more extreme is things got

heavier more extreme is things got people latch on and think that's normal

people latch on and think that's normal um you start hearing this old stuff

um you start hearing this old stuff maybe iron maiden pirates power slave

maybe iron maiden pirates power slave sounds like glam to some people i don't

sounds like glam to some people i don't know

know doesn't make sense to me but i came from

doesn't make sense to me but i came from that we all came from that era you

we know we made it everybody thank you so much

we made it everybody thank you so much for joining us tonight

for joining us tonight um almost 80 people tonight wow that's

um almost 80 people tonight wow that's pretty damn good and uh thank you

pretty damn good and uh thank you mr ken for joining us tonight it was a

mr ken for joining us tonight it was a pleasure having you as always and we'll

pleasure having you as always and we'll get you back again my friend

get you back again my friend god

god no anytime guys any time i appreciate it

no anytime guys any time i appreciate it thank you so this is great um especially

thank you so this is great um especially for me i'm obviously always flapping at

for me i'm obviously always flapping at the gums about death metal um so to to

the gums about death metal um so to to go back to 1984

go back to 1984 and uh show especially some of these

and uh show especially some of these lesser-known albums that are lying

lesser-known albums that are lying around here in the crypt um it's great

around here in the crypt um it's great thank you

thank you it's always great talking to stuff with

it's always great talking to stuff with you ken i always learn stuff listening

you ken i always learn stuff listening to you i've seen record shirts that i've

to you i've seen record shirts that i've never seen before that i'm going to have

never seen before that i'm going to have to go listen to now wow things i've

to go listen to now wow things i've forgotten about it's yeah it's it's

forgotten about it's yeah it's it's always great you're

always great you're you're so into it you know everything

you're so into it you know everything about it

about it it's just amazing great having you on

it's just amazing great having you on thank you and next week folks tune in uh

thank you and next week folks tune in uh same time friday night we'll have our

same time friday night we'll have our friend king fowley back to be discussing

friend king fowley back to be discussing our favorite albums from metal blade

our favorite albums from metal blade records

records so it'll be probably a very similar

so it'll be probably a very similar to this album to this uh stream but um

to this album to this uh stream but um it'll be great to have king back as

it'll be great to have king back as always and they're hot off of a little

always and they're hot off of a little short run of texas the mighty deceased

short run of texas the mighty deceased tearing it up still kicking ass after

tearing it up still kicking ass after all these years

all these years so cheers to ken cheers to

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that's how that's going to roll just like that and um

like that and um alan you always bring the uh you always

alan you always bring the uh you always bring the decor and the charm and the

bring the decor and the charm and the the beauty to our stream every week

the beauty to our stream every week thank you so much again for

thank you so much again for uh classing the place up as always and

uh classing the place up as always and your mighty ass hat

your mighty ass hat marty do you know the difference between

marty do you know the difference between me and

me and most other folks

most other folks what i make this [ __ ] look good you make

what i make this [ __ ] look good you make it look [ __ ] awesome

it look [ __ ] awesome no one makes a twerking uh turkey hat

no one makes a twerking uh turkey hat look quite like you do my friend and um

look quite like you do my friend and um i most certainly couldn't have

i most certainly couldn't have so cheers to everybody have a good one

so cheers to everybody have a good one ken hang on we're gonna chat here in a

ken hang on we're gonna chat here in a minute and um take care everybody have a

minute and um take care everybody have a good night have a good weekend everyone

good night have a good weekend everyone take care

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