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The content argues that a "psychosomatic storm" is brewing in Western culture due to the systematic frustration of innate human instincts, leading to widespread dissociation and the formation of complexes that manifest as physical and psychological ailments. It proposes that understanding and re-engaging with our evolved instincts, through a framework of psychosystems analysis, is crucial to navigating and avoiding this impending crisis.

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a storm is

coming what happens when you repeatedly

frustrate the instincts of an entire

generation the instincts to relate to

mate and even to think for oneself

culture what happens when you traumatize

an entire generation where do is that

go it doesn't matter what those in

positions of power today wish for us all

to believe you cannot switch off

Instinct our genome encodes and releases

this ancient evolutionary material that

structures and guides our very lifespan

itself it has literally built our entire

world and everything that we know on a

Feeling level about being a human being

but when a culture like our culture in

the western world today turns against

Instinct and starts telling its

population that you can't do or even

think the most basic of human

instinctive things then it's turned

fully hostile against

Instinct but the thing about instinct is

when it's pushed against

it always pushes back now this can take

the form of a classical acute trauma a

one-off incidence in time that is so

overwhelmingly powerful perhaps

terrifying for that person to experience

but it doesn't have to take this form at

all very often it doesn't instead it can

simply be a chronic buildup over time of

defeats despairs or fears regardless of

which of these scenarios is true the

outcome is always exactly the same in

Steve and Pauline Richard's model of

trauma Instinct specifically frustration

of instinct causes

dissociation within the field of the ego

the Instinct fires towards the ego and

the ego dissociates a small partition

off from itself this partition feels the

instinctive pressure so that the rest of

the ego that is the person's experience

doesn't have to but if that partition is

suppressed and then repressed it is very

likely to go on and form a full-on bioc

psychosocial complex a complex always

obeys its setup instructions that is

what it was set up for in the moment of

time in which it Formed specifically

with trauma is to specifically protect

that person from ever having to

experience erence that trauma that

buildup a frustrated Instinct ever again

we do have to ask the question with this

where does the instinctive pressure go

well if somebody has a psychosomatic

condition then we know by default where

that instinctive pressure has gone it

can't get up through the complex so it

Ducks back down into the rest of the

body psychosomatic conditions are

already on the rise today especially in

our post lockdown era during lockdown

essentially everybody in the western

world was told that even if you leave

your house something as basic human and

instinctive as that then you will face

severe psychosocial consequences

psychosomatic conditions are on the rise

and Steve and Pauline Richards predict

that they will continue to rise and form

a full-on psychosomatic storm a

psychosomatic storm will be explained in

full in this video Steven Pauling do

predict that it currently is likely but

it is not inevitable we can avoid it but

if we're going to do that then we have

to as individuals and by extension as a

collective update our understanding and

our consciousness of the reality of our

evolved human instincts so that's what

we're going to discuss in this video in

enormous detail as you can probably see

by the Run time I have to State however

before we go any further that this video

is not and cannot be a substitute for

in-person medical or psychological

support everything in this video is

derived directly from the work of my

mentors Steve and Pauline Richards and

their 44 years each of Frontline

clinical experience this channel that

you're on right now Yung to live by

forms part of the promise that Steve and

Pauline made to France Yung Carl Young's

only son in the young family home in

kusak in May of

1992 we will bring your father's work

Carl Young's work into the reach of

Ordinary People fulltime stamps for this

video are in the description box down

below and by full I mean the maximum

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me to put into a description box but the

whole point of that is to allow you to

if you would like to skip ahead to any

point within this video and then skip

back again or perhaps especially

usefully if you return back to this

video again in the future and would like

to find something specific this video

will begin with Steve Richards

explaining exactly what the coming

psychosomatic storm is this is Then

followed by a walkthrough of how our

understanding of trauma has evolved

Through Time beginning with Pier Janet

through to Sigman Freud and Joseph Brer

KL young and Ernest Rossy all of these

clinicians have had an influence on

Steve and Pauline Richards psychos

systems analysis of which we'll cover

exactly how Steve and Pauline model and

understand the ego dissociation trauma

and most importantly how to successfully

deal with trauma we will also cover the

work of yak Pang and Mark salms and his

neuros psychoanalysis before announcing

something very exciting a brand new

sister modality to psychos systems

analysis is currently in development by

Steve and Pauline yungan neuros

psychoanalysis following this we will

move into two case studies two extremely

different case studies of two

individuals who had been severely

traumatized with complicated

psychosomatic presentations Steve

Pauline and I discussed the Dynamics of

both cases in enormous detail our goal

is for anyone watching if so inclined to

build a significant understanding of

trauma and how to resolve it then Steve

and Pauline explain how we can avoid the

coming psychosomatic storm what steps we

can take to ensure that we do not get

manipulated by the culture into giving

up our ancestral Birthright our

instincts then we will move through a

series of narrated Discord posts written

by Steve Richards from our young to

liveby Discord server specifically

covering the topics which we've

discussed across this video then to

close off we cover an appendix of

definitions if you'd like to know at any

point what Steven Pauline means

specifically by informational field or

complex field then hopefully this part

of the video will be especially useful

simply click on the definition in the

time stamps down below and it should

come immediately up on screen for you

now without any further Ado we're going

Richards frustration of instinct di the

individual or the collective level is

the primary cause of neurosis via

dissociation it's the distribution of

things and what why the the first cause

can be lost and the problems of Clans

looking for first causes to solve

present causes once something is

superpositioned then you go after the

original trauma you're ignoring the fact

that the thing is bigger than only that

uh and that first cause was you know

relatively speaking now coincidental

because it's been absorbed into a field

relationship with other factors so if

you can think of anybody that you've

worked with and that they present as a

complicated case the complexity is in the

the

superpositioning and finding the first

cause only makes things last longer

because once you've got that it doesn't

necessarily deal with anything

particularly if that were a childhood

trauma I say particularly because of the

passage of time going back to deal with

apparently dealing with a childhood

trauma through all sorts of weird ways

that some therapists attempt to do this

through the fantasy of internal family

systems or inner child F anything like

that that is so regressive and not in

the moment and is definitely not

prospective enough to engage the natural

homeostatic process that we all have

that is interested in us adapting

properly to the world if you get this

say at a collective level then what you

get there will be an immediate blunting

this is be be the first symptom a

blunting of the capacity to express

Instinct at a cultural level whever that

culture may happen to be east west north

south somewhere in between or all all

five of

those once that happens individuals then

will find that their social

relationships are blunted there'll be

things they can't say that they can't do

they feel they can't think all of those

things contradict natural instinct

however to adapt to that new state you

have to generate a complex in order to

feel normal in this new environment that

you've been exposed to where repression

at a cultural level has been

introduced of course that will help us

in the short term very very in a very

limited way but as soon as Instinct

starts to say no this is not good for

you it will push and as it pushes that

complex either has to increase in its

strength or has to associate new

material perhaps as further partition

complex systems to deal with instinctive

pressure and then the response from the

body is to somaticize in symbolic ways

at first so the early stages of

somatization is the frustration of

instinct is usually directly symbolic

and it's as if then you have a an image

which has been projected by the the

complex into symbolic representational

form that either the ego some

psychosocial resource friends family

Medics psychologists or whever should be

able to latch on to and deal with but

however that does not happen and there

is a persistence over time then the the

symbolic representation has to

proliferate Itself by further

superpositioning and by further

manifestation of different kinds of

symptoms at which point gradually the

first cause is lost and then the the

collective starts to adjust itself to

being permanently in that

state this will generate as I say

psychosomatic disorders initially and

then some of them through Rossy Pathways

Ernest rossy's work the psychon

neuroendocrine psychon neuroimmune

neuropeptide and from most of course the

acidbase balance of the body all working

together in a negative way can produce real

real

diseases by compromising homostasis

uh then if there is any medical support

from this compromised culture it will be

reduc Ive uh it'll be focused in the

wrong direction it will cause further

depletion of confidence in a person over

their own capacity to

self-regulate uh the culture will add a

top- down uh form of further secondary

repression and shaming on people who

produce these symptoms and gradually

people get leveled out into a form of

compliance on the basis of one instinct

which is that of survival at any cost

even at the depletion of their own

resources the loss of their culture and a

lifespan that is an example at the

collective level of a psychosomatic

storm at the individual level it can

work on anybody who feels

isolated isolation can come about

through an initial episode of depression

conservation withdrawal in other words

withdrawing from stressful situations

and then the generation of fantasy as uh an

escape a representation a

misrepresentation of satisfaction ofin

in in through fantasy that individual

then can be completely isolated within a

normal culture and reproduce exactly the

same kind of symptoms specifically for

themselves that I was talking about a

moment ago that occur on the collective

level so if this unfortunate individual

then goes to a therapist and they then

try and use all sorts of regressive

techniques on them it will get worse and

worse and they'll become more and more

attached through a transference to a

therapy process that is doing nothing

other than generating a pseudo parental

relationship the classic psychoanalytic

transference um meanwhile the complexes

that exist and function in a yungan way

and a Janan way specifically actually um

then starts out the time of the

metaphorical lives and by parasitizing

the life force of that individual and um

manipulating the transer relationship to

ensure that they're not dealt with but

that they continue to survive themselves

as some kind of um replacement a

surrogate for a real life remember the

complex was formed under those

conditions of surrogacy that you can't

deal with this I will the complex will

metaphorically say at the moment of its

formation and then it's interested in

itself rather than the ago's health uh

and then we get the classic fight then

between Instinct and complex that

results in a further proliferation of

psychosomatic expression into um somat

form disorder used to be called Hysteria

but also potentially into the real

disease processes and meanwhile that

individual's relationships are just

about everybody become

compromised so fundamentally that's the

fundamental outline fundamentally uh of

what a psychosomatic storm is how it

occurs and once it superpositions and

distributes throughout an individual

system or a collective system and it's

almost impossible to find what's

orchestrating all of it unless you take

a field superimposition model of

information to look at it then you can

see where it is um and once you've got

the shape of it and the Dynamics of it

then you can design an intervention

either for individuals for relationships

for families for small groups large

level that was a lot of useful

information there but please don't be

concerned if you don't understand

everything yet by the end of this video

you certainly will and in fact that's

the point of this next chapter we're

about to walk through what could broadly

be called the trauma theory of neurosis

working our way through the work of

several key pioneering clinicians to

build up a story across time for their

influence on Steve and Pauline's psychos

systems analysis when we get there we're

going to walk through Steve and

Pauline's model of the ego specifically

their informational Fe F and

superpositioning model of the ego and

its wider Associated Fields including

perhaps most importantly for trauma

complexes including how complexes form

under dissociation so we're going to

begin with Pier Jan then move to Freud

and Brer then to Young then Ernest Rossy

and then after we cover Steve and

Pauline's model we will then move into

looking at neuros psychoanalysis before

we have a very very exciting

announcement to make which we hinted at

in the intro to this video we will begin

Jan Pier Janet was the master of his day

in understanding the dissociability of

Consciousness cited as a key influence

by Freud Brer and young Jan is the

indispensable historical foundation for

understanding how trauma and adaptive

challenges in general leads to the

formation of complexes unfortunately

he's not very well known today at all

except by means of footnotes and

references in other people's work such

as in yong's collected works the reason

for this is partly political as in a

systematic attempt by some of his

contemporaries in writing over his

contributions and partly because he

wrote in French very little of his

output has been translated into English

hre Ellen B's discovery of the

unconscious from 1970 was a huge help in

keeping Jan's contributions from

disappearing entirely and it's only in

the last few years that more of his work

is beginning to appear in English

studying Jan is very important as

hopefully you're about to see when Jan

published his PhD thesis psychological

automatism in 1889 it became an instant

classic within the psychological

Sciences within he detailed the work

that he had conducted between 1883 and

188 88 for the purposes of studying

quote human activity in its simplest and

most rudimentary forms in short Jan used

hypnosis on patients suffering from

psychosomatic transductions known simply

as hysteria at the time in an attempt to

understand the structure of the Mind

what he discovered was incredible Jan

came to understand that Consciousness

wasn't quite as simple as the Western

cartisian tradition had put forward up

until that time time that of a singular

mind separate from the body for Jan

Consciousness was a field different to

how Steve and Pauline Richards Define a

field to be but rather as a dynamic

gradient of Consciousness at the center

of this field was the I one's ongoing

sense of awareness which extended out

across a gradient of

subconsciousness before reaching the true

true

unconscious what Janet termed the

automatic as in functions which simply

take place mechanically when Jan studied

theonomous psychological automatisms

that he was investigating that is

essentially the hysterical symptoms of

the patients he found them to be

operating in a subconscious fashion they

weren't at the center of the field of

Consciousness but rather they exhibited

their own veency of Consciousness

outside of the direct psychological

reach of the person Jan thus described

them as being Associated from normal

Consciousness but crucially with a form

of consciousness of their own

investigating the symptoms further

through hypnosis he noticed that at

their core they all appear to share a

dynamic in common something which he

termed subconscious fixed ideas he

modeled it as such at some point in the

past under conditions of mental weakness

that is we could say in Steve and

Pauline's model lowered EG strength a

traumatic experience occurred which

caused a dissociation in the field of

Consciousness this dissociation led

directly to the field of Consciousness

forming a subconscious subnuclei of

itself containing information about the

original event that is as Jan was able

to determine usually a fixed idea so the

patient would de facto reveal a key

event or a key idea exactly as the name

suggests which was still causing

persistent symptoms to them in the

present this subconscious fixed idea was

normally completely inaccessible to

waking consciousness identifiable only

by proxy through the symptoms it was

causing but through hypnosis through

dissociating the field of Consciousness

in a healthy way the core of this

subnuclei could be revealed in addition

Jan's subconscious fixed ideas were

crucially Dynamic very often a patient

would present with an initial

subconscious fixed idea which acted as a

magnet for many other associations to

form then in varying levels of

subconsciousness between the clear

consciousness of the person and their

constitutional makeup there were very

often a whole array of subconscious

fixed ideas each one originating at a

given point within the person's life

they could undergo changes slow or Rapid

or otherwise become modified within the

subconscious thus Jan's work was the

foundation of the field of complexes he

discovered dissociated Dynamic

autonomous conscious unto themselves

agents of neurosis fully capable of

operating psychologically and

biologically which formed due to

experiences Joseph Brer and Sigman

Freud's studies on hysteria published in

1895 with a preliminary communication

published in 1893 was similar to Jan

utterly groundbreaking within they

detailed that quote hysterical symptoms

are residues and nemic symbols of

particular traumatic experiences with

the key to the Persistence of these

residues being strangulated affect in

summary their model was as such whenever

a challenging event occurs in someone's

life a large amount of affect or emotion

is likely to arise with it usually this

affect is discharged or otherwise wears

away with time but if the person is in a

dissociated state described as hypnoid

by Brer at the time of the event or if

the event was quote incompatible with

the state of the ego then the affect

becomes strangulated by this they meant

that the affect is not released or

processed via the usual means but rather

becomes attached to to the memory of the

event which is subsequently cut off from

Consciousness this affect charged memory

subsequently manifests itself in

hysterical symptoms which can be

understood as nemic symbols with nemic

meaning related to memory to remove the

symptoms Freud and Brer used hypnosis to

dissociate the patient and suggest to

them that they will remember the

originating memory upon apparently doing

so the patient would experience a large

abreaction of a effect and the

hysterical symptoms were cured as a

result Freud stated in 1909 that soon

after these studies on hysteria he

dropped hypnosis completely his

reasoning was as such quote when I found

that in spite of all of my efforts I

could not succeed in bringing more than

a fraction of my patients into a

hypnotic State I determined to give up

hypnosis and to make the cathartic

procedure independent of it in other

words Freud is admitting that he was not

very very good at hypnosis to be honest

and fair to Freud's position on this he

does continue quote it is only if you

exclude hypnosis that you can observe

resistances and repressions and form an

adequate idea of the truly pathogenic

course of events hypnosis conceals the

resistance and renders a certain area of

the Mind accessible but as against this

it builds up the resistance at the

frontiers of this area into a wall that

makes everything Beyond it inaccessible

so Freud is also stating that in his

view hypnosis is a very limited method

for investigating the so-called

unconscious however this is absolutely

an artifact of the style of hypnosis he

was using direct and authoritarian such

methods as Steve and Pauline have spoken

about before many times on this channel

are very likely to constellate

resistance and are contra naturum for

building rapport with the homeostatic

Cent of the psyche the modality of

hypnotherapy taught during professional

training at The Institute for psychos

systems analysis Steve and Pauline's

neuro hypnoanalysis allows one to

navigate around complexes not agitate

and confront them in order to reach the

deeper structures of the psyche the fact

that Freud and Brer came to believe that

it was necessary for the patients to

experience the ab reaction proves that

their style of hypnosis was directly

constellating the simp symptom causing

affect charged memory that is the

complex as the equivalent in psychos

systems analysis we're including a case

study later on in this video from Steven

Pauline demonstrating how someone

emphatically does not have to relive

their trauma and experience all the

affect associated with it in order to

heal in fact it can be done without the

person having to feel anything

unpleasant at all regardless of these

important critiques Freud and Brer

should both be a applauded for their

pioneering work whilst we're speaking

about Freud we feel it worthwhile to

move into how Freud later modeled the

structure of the ego our source for this

is his famous outline of psychoanalysis

published in 1940 as Steve said this

represents Freud's last word on his own

model remembering that Jan described

Consciousness as a field Freud instead

simply defines Consciousness without

much of a definition at all he

essentially states that everyone

implicitly knows what the word refers to

but no one knows what it is per se

practically for Freud it's the center of

our ongoing awareness Das in the German

philosophical tradition or in English

the ego the ego however has two parts to

it its relatively tiny periphery is

synonymous with our ongoing experience

but the vast majority is defined as

preconscious the periphery is conscious

but the preconscious is technically

unconscious that is literally not

conscious however everything in the

preconscious consisting of all of our

personal memories has the potential to

become conscious once again continuing

on for Freud everything outside of the

ego was unconscious primarily there are

two structures here the ID and the super

egoo the ID represents the innate

constitution of the person housing and

releasing the thrives of os and Thanatos

it also contains everything which the

ego has repressed the super egoo by

contrast is a representation of the

moral influence of one's parents and

wider Society exerting a regulating

influence on the action of the ego the

only complexes which Freud recognized at

this time were the edius and castration

complexes however earlier on in his

career as he States in 1909 he was once

closely aligned with the so-called Z

euck school that is Carl Young France

rickland oan bler and their colleagues

in their understanding of complexes

Freud had already developed his method

of free association by then but synched

it with the Zurich school's description

of quote a group of interdependent

ideational elements cathected with

affect being a complex as Steve Richards

writes in the 44th bulletin of the

peer-reviewed journal neuros psycho

analysis quote the post 1912 split

between Freud and Yung saw Freud drawing

back from his previously qualified

acceptance of yung's model of complexes

whilst retaining the edle and castration

complexes and Yung moving away from an

emphasis on instincts in favor of his

expanded biological and

metapsychological construct of

archetypes both Freud and Yung

progressively distanced themselves from

the work of Pier Jan and in so doing

overlooked developments that would lead

to the psychos systems analysis

understanding of the Janan dissociation

of Consciousness hypnosis and the

mindbody superpositioning of

informational States as extended fields

of Consciousness amable to therapeutic

change Carl Jung started his

psychological career with his on the

psychology of so-call Ault phenomena

published in 1900 which was heavily

influenced by the work of Pier Jan

before following it up with a series of

superb scientific investigations into

psychophysiological complexes as a

summary Steve Richards writes in the

44th bulletin of the journal

neuropsychoanalysis quote Yung developed

the concept of the complex from the

associative psychology of Theodore xan

and from Joseph brers and Sigman Freud's

ideational complex to include Jan's

subnuclei of Consciousness as being

empirically demonstrable and clinically

treatable in both normal and

pathological subjects Steve has

highlighted there empirically

demonstrable young along with France

ricklin was able to demonstrate not just

the existence of complexes but some of

their properties too primarily through

his investigations into word association

similarly to Jan he showed that

complexes were related to an event or a

circum an in someone's past or one that

was still ongoing in the present and

that very often it was the complex

itself which responded to the word

association test thus explaining the

patient personal associations to the

word provided their spontaneous blanking

to some words but not others and the

perseverated or delayed response to a

given word by answering it in place of

the following word complexes could

interfere with the person's cognition

that is making them think certain

associative thoughts and they could

constellate a large surge of a effect

again observed through certain stimulus

words using a numer graph and measuring

the galvanized skin response of those

who worked with he proved scientifically

that complexes were

psychophysiological too that is not

simply psychological but biological as

well at the same time implicitly too

they were clearly psychosocial that is

they were formed by an initial

psychosocial pressure and acted to

influence personal relationships thus as

you may have heard Steve and Pauline say

before though Yung never used the term

complexes are bio psychosocial moving

into more detail the late Dr Anthony

Stevens aptly provides a summary of what

Yung believed complexes to be quote

while complexes could be pathological

and contributes to neurotic suffering

young regarded them as Norm healthy

components of the psyche complexes were

in fact the functional units of which

the ontogenetic psyche was composed

complexes are archetypes actualized in

the Mind by ontogenetic psyche Anthony

Stevens is referring to both the ego and

the personal unconscious in fact for

Yung the ego was actually a specialized

complex which formed the center of the

field of Consciousness there's field

again just like Jan Steve Richards

describes yung's model of the ego

further quote the ego for Yung

originally developed out from the

unconscious during the earlier stages of

the development of personality the ego

has an extension Beyond Consciousness

into the personal unconscious sometimes

called the Shadow the personal

unconscious is made up of experiences

systematized into complexes they could

variously be conscious partially

conscious or unconscious and may

innovate the body and or affect

psychosocial relations and adaptations

they formed associatively around a

deeper Universal core of innate

representational images and

anticipations derived in part from

instincts but configured into patterns

of action that he called archetypes the

complexes of the personal unconscious

were all capable in principle of

becoming conscious albeit that some of

their content had become associated to a

given complex without them ever being

conscious to the ego in such cases the

experiences that formed these contents

had not been registered by the ego being

the product of psychodynamic processes

such as suppression or repression out of

the three models that we've discussed so

far yung's is the most refined

specifically with respect to the causal

agents behind Neurosis I.E complexes for

young complexes have an archetypal core

meaning that their formation depends

initially on the attempted activation

and manifestation of Dynamics arising

from the so-called Collective

unconscious what Dr Anthony Stevens

termed the philogenetic or evolutionary

psyche so for Yung all complexes are

composed of ideational and imagistic

associations held together by effect

around this philogenetic core yung's

work on complexes was incredible

however a few events occurred in his

career which paved the way for his

personal myth to move him steadily away

from this essential area of study

firstly just like Freud he moved away

from hypnosis Steve writes in discover

your personal myth quote Yong was

teaching a group of medical students and

induced a trance in a female patient but

was unable to terminate the trance and

bring her safely back to normal

Consciousness despite shaking her

violently by the arms this shocked him

with the obvious loss of professional

status and Persona he decided to blame

the method hypnosis rather than himself

his training in hypnosis was basic even

by the standards of the times so he

abandoned the method by moving away from

hypnosis he by extension lost an

emphasis on Jan's dissociation of the

field of Consciousness as The crucial

mediator of the formation of neurosis

I.E complex

when Yong spent some time studying

hypnosis directly under Jan in Paris

it's been reported by some of his peers

at the time that he spent much of the

time he should have been in seminars off

exploring the city instead as Steve

Richards often says by his laido shall

ye know him similarly as we quoted from

Steve earlier the post 1912 split

between Freud and Yong saw Yong distance

himself from an emphasis on Instinct as

we've explored in great detail in our

resolve your archetypes and meta

instincts video yung's archetypal

hypothesis originally had Instinct right

at its core quoting directly from Yong

archetypes are the self-portrait of

instincts however much of this emphasis

on Instinct was clouded in his later

writings as he explored mythopoetic

representations of the so-called

archetypes instead do Anthony Stevens in

contrast to the mainstream yian

tradition highlighted this element out

of yung's writing writings in his great

1982 synthesis of Yung with evolutionary

biology and ethology archetype a natural

history of the self regardless yung's

model of complexes sits as his most

important contribution to depth

psychology complexes almost exactly as

Yung described them we'll cover that in

a moment are empirically real as per

understanding trauma Yong has

Ernest Rossy was a Freudian analyst a

yian analyst and a professor of

Neuroscience he was also the closest

student of Milton Ericson training under

him in hypnotherapy rossy's work focused

on the integration of hypnotherapy with

psychophysiology specifically how it

could be possible for hypnotherapy to

exhibit the rapid and efficacious

results it was capable of generating

especially for complicated psychosomatic

presentations to do this Rossy

introduced a new psychodynamic the

equivalent of complexes in Steve and

Pauline Richard's model he called this

state dependent memory learning and

behavior or SD MLB for short an SD MLB

is a Systems profile within

psychophysiology not a discrete thing

per se but rather the movement of

information from the psyche and the

Brain down into the body via messenger

molecules whereby said messenger

molecules would act to regulate gene

expression to subsequently signal via

the output of modified gene expression a

change back up to the brain and by

extension the psyche psychosomatic

symptoms were thus State encoded they

had a psychosocial athology or cause but

were stored in a looping network of

information from mind down through

specific Pathways to the body

hypnotherapy was understood by Rossy as

reversing that pathway restoring it to

its natural Baseline setting that is a

healing change initiated through Gene

transcription which alleviated the

persistent symptoms the specific

Pathways Rossy outlined through Decades

of biological study include the neuros

pycho immune and the neuros

psychoendocrine pathways with an

enormous study of the role of

neuropeptides in both let's have a look

at one of these in more detail through a

direct quotation from Rossy from 2004

quote information from the outside world

is encoded in the neurons of the

cerebral cortex of the brain which is

then transformed within the lyic

hypothalamus pituitary system in the

messenger molecules that travel through

the bloodstream to Signal receptors on

all cells so in short Rossy is saying

that psychosocial information has

presence within the brain and this is

then transduced into messenger molecules

two The receptors on the surface of

cells transmit the signal via secondary

Messengers to the nucleus of the cell

where immediate early genes signal other

Target genes to transcribe their code

into messenger rnas so Rossy is saying

that these messenger molecules Kickstart

an intracellular signaling Cascade with

a trajectory towards modulating Gene

transcription three the messenger rnas

serve as blueprints for the synthesis of

proteins that will function either as a

the ultimate healing structures the Soma

of the body B enzymes to facilitate

energy Dynamics and C receptors and

messenger molecules for the

informational dynamics of the cell so

Rossy is saying here that RNA is

translated into protein which one can

consider though this is an

oversimplification for explanation the

active form of DNA this protein then

carries out specific healing tasks four

messenger molecules function as a type

of molecular memory that can evoke state

dependent memory learning and behavior

in the neural networks of the brain that

are encoded and transformed by Body

Psychotherapy so finally Rossi is saying

that the messenger molecules are

released from their cells and make their

way back up to the brain which state

encodes the neurological and hence

psychological by extension activity of

the sdml B neither Yung Jan nor Freud

EMB Brer had anywhere near this level of

biological understanding by means of a

milestone Watson and Crick only

discovered the structure of DNA in 1953

Yung was 78 years old by then Janet had

already passed away in 1947 and Freud

even earlier in 1939 the dawn of

molecular biology which Watson and

crick's Discovery brought about allowed

Rossi to make his discoveries and he

continued to update his Pathways right

the way through into our current

post-human Genome Project Era of

genomics through rossy's work we can

biologically model the so-called nemic

symbols which Freud and Brer identified

so too how Jan's subconscious fixed

ideas could manifest in physical

hysterical symptoms and how yung's

complexes could be both psychological

and physiological at the same time

through Messenger molecules the psyche

extends into the body moving information

from one place to another and holding it

in place I.E a psychosomatic symptom for

a long period of time so too how

hypnosis could interface with the genome

via messenger molecules through to

transcription to deliver rapid healing

change Rossy was an inspiration to Steve

and Pauline Richards he personally

supported their development of psychos

systems analysis and he worked with them

on highly complicated clinical cases

implicated with significant

Steve and Pauline Richard's psychos

systems analysis represents the new

paradigm of psychotherapy at its heart

is their framework of informational

monism and superposition Theory first

codified by them in 1988 knowing these

two principles informational monism and

superposition Theory allows you to have

a fielded understanding of human nature

one that is both revolutionary and

liberating in equal measure to

demonstrate them in Act let's first of

all turn our attention back to Yung if

you recall yung's definition of the ego

was that it was a specialized complex

which formed the center of the field of

Consciousness Steve and Pauline accept

yung's proposal but refin that field

nature to include a much wider

distribution of representational states

that are superpositioned with and

between one another info dnamic these

representational states include the

Miller number the Persona the self-image

the self-concept the complex field the

dream ego and more we will explore each

of these as we progress but before we do

we need first of all to Define field

Steve does so as such quote an

informational field is a heterogenous

field of informational states that are

connected by association to one another

these different informational states can

exchange energy and information within

and between themselves and so change

through such interaction their

composition and both their

representational and associative States

for example the field of a complex can

be represented by stretching its effects

over the biopsychosocial stack thereby

revealing its field nature at and

between all affected levels the waveform

on screen shows exactly this the

distributed informational field of a

complex stretched over the

biopsychosocial stack the waveform moves

and pulses showing a dynamic shifting of

how that complex represents itself

through different informational States

namely different subdivisions of biology

psychology and the psychosocial where

there's more of a spike in the waveform

there's a greater density of complex

activity operating at that resolution

this schema gives us a good foundation

for modeling how a single psychodynamic

in this case a complex could operate in

somebody's life it will be psychological

so having representation in cognition or

affect for example or it could be

so-called psychosomatic so that is

operating within psychology and biology

at the same time in a clinical

presentation if this is the case then

rossy's transduction pathways are

certainly implicated to mediate this so

too it is very likely to have noticeable

psychosocial representation as well such

as in personal relationships regardless

of what we notice about a complex

however complexes will always have

representation at all all of these

levels all of them some levels of course

are more immediately relevant clinically

or for personal development but we must

understand that complexes indeed any

psychodynamic or really info dnamic

always has representation as an

informational field across the entirety

of the bioc psychosocial stack

superpositioned across all of these

different informational States knowing

this we can now zoom into the resolution

of the ego as modeled by Steve and

Pauline remember everything that you are

about to see is always superpositioned

across the bioc psychosocial stack but

we need to adopt an intrao view for

illustration everything in this section

is a lightly copyedited version of words

written by Steve Richards let's begin

with the complex field the complex field

is that field of partitioned

systematized information that forms in

response to the ego's lifespan

developmental experience there are three

taxa of complex within this field all of

which form through Janan dissociation

and regulating infodynamics the first is

eg non-aligned complexes the second are

EG aligned complexes and the third are

EG identified with complexes all of

these taxa May exchange energy so libido

whether that be metabolic or instinctive

and information so that is infodynamics

within and between themselves either to

internally regulate the content of their

relational field or in response to meta

regulation by various homeostatic

processes in this way they may change

their taxa in relation to the EG field

so for example moving from identified to

aligned you can see this in the schema

on screen all of the complexes

regardless of taxa are Dynamic they're

always under the regulating influence of

whole field homeostasis as they fade out

from view they exert of a direct

influence on the field of the ego as

they fade back in again and move more

into Focus they're exerting a greater

influence all are in association to one

another as shown by them moving closer

and further away from each other the

ontology of complexes always concerns

adaptive responses to internal and

external challenges along the lifespan

internal pressure arises from The genome

as pepian drives and timed release meta

instincts external pressure is

anticipated by both panpan and meta

instincts the result of this is

complexes as variously systematized into

optimal suboptimal or maladaptive fields

of Association typically complexes form

around key relationships and anticipated

scenarios for adaptive challenges Steve

and Pauline differ from Yung on this in

that they consider meta instinctive

fields and pepian drive pressure right

rather than archetypes to be the

underlying organizing Factor through

which complexes form both of these

classifications of instinct are

discussed in the dialectics which follow

this part of the video they are crucial

for understanding trauma so the EG

partitions under this pressure and

devolves functional responsibility to

its partitioned subsets that is to EG

states that form as complexes for a

specific devolved purpose in this they

have an Adaptive evolutionary Advantage

which comes at the cost of potential

Neurosis or severe mental illness not

all complexes are maladaptive those that

are not May simply be inertial such as

in having been long ago Consolidated

into long-term memory and function as

non-declarative learning or they're

effectively dormant others that are

positive in adaptive function may be

held in tacit or implicit identification

with the self image we'll discuss this

in a moment in such cases these positive

ego identified with complexes act

appropriately through the EG's action in

the world and its receptivity to Inner

experience now let's add another element

to our schema the self-concept the

self-concept field is that field of

systematized information which extends

back along the individual's timeline

containing every subjective experience

that has ever been identified with by

that individual as being them or

involving them relationally this

includes all bioc psychosocial states

that have ever been Associated to the

EG's developing sense of identified with

reflexivity biopsychosocial states are

configurations within the objective

waveform of the platonic field that also

include all subjective EG field states

of the subjective waveform of the ego so

an EG field state or simply an ego state

represents a transitory or a sustained

configuration of the EG field sufficient

to cause either partitioning into a

genan complex thereby generating the

complex's self-directed autonomy or of

forming a persistent representation of

its self which is incorporated into the

self image as the dynamic focus of the

self-concept field those autonomous

complexes that the ego identifies with

form that part of the complex field

incorporated into the field of the

self-concept and its focus the

self-image the majority of the contents

of the self-concept field are

Consolidated into longterm memory shown

in the background by that very dark but

still Dynamic moving series of complexes

and these are unavailable for recall by

the EG's conscious will or intention but

they are subject to psychodynamic and

field info dnamic processes that may

introduce or return them into

Association to the ego either in whole

or in part and are capable of activation

by directed homeostasis we've mentioned

the self-image a couple of times so far

the self-image field shown in the center

as a red nucleus of associations that if

you watch them really closely Do Not

Fade Away into the background this is

the internal mirror that is subjectively

experienced as the representation of

personal identity in effect this is the

EG's internal Persona it flexs back the

EG's referent understanding of itself to

itself it is both tacit and implicit

requiring either direct internal

checking through the Mela number in

order to become explicit or for its

representation to emerge autonomously

into the melan number so the self-image

is unconscious to reflexive awareness

unless it's either deliberately accessed

or it intrudes autonomously the

self-image can update itself

continuously ly but it will have a

nucleus of identified with self-referent

information again that's the red nucleus

in the center of the screen drawn from

the continuity of the field of the

self-concept over the timeline of the

individual's ongoing lifespan

development it functions as the defining

focus of the field of the self-concept

when the EG field reflexively examines

itself as you can see from the schema

we've been building on screen each of

these field informational States we've

discussed which Define the ego are all

superpositioned with each other this is

really important to remember as we're

about to move on to speaking about

so-called specialized complexes they are

all their own discret info dnamic but

they always draw their material and

their contents from everything that

we've just discussed so the complexes

and the sustained persistent bioc

psychosocial states of the ego so if we

discuss firstly the persona field it is

its own discrete info dnamic we can

speak of a Persona as its own entity

however the Persona field is always

superpositioned with the self-concept

the self-image and the three taxa of

Janan complex whether they be

incorporated into the self-concept and

self-image or not so its informational

contents the contents of the Persona is

simultaneously in that is

superpositioned with the Persona field

and also the other elements previously

described the same is true of the alter

ego the moral complex the dream ego and

the Miller number which we're about to

discuss so the Persona field is the

dynamic two-way interface between the

individual organism and any twers and

above relational interaction extending

out into the collective sociocultural

and natural environments unlike in

yung's model the Persona field is not

seen as something unreal or only

consciously constructed as an ideal mask

hence the name Persona rather it is a

component of the whole EG field that has

first evolved and then functionally

adapted as the psychosocial interface

between the individual and others these

specialized complexes called the alter

ego and the moral complex which are

analogous to some extent with yung's

Shadow and Freud's super egoo

respectively arise as a necessary

ontological consequence of the

development of the the EG field each is

a field of systematized information that

relates homeostatically to the EG field

we've spoken on both of these complexes

at Great length in other videos on this

channel then we have the dream ego this

is the representational form and

reflexive experience of the self-image

as that has transitioned from The Waking

ego so normal State and into the dream

process both waking and dream ego states

share the selfcon concept and its fosi

of the self-image likewise they share

the same ego identified with complexes

remember those are the green circles on

screen and the red nucleus of the

self-image which being associated with

the self-concept and its self-image are

necessarily drawn into the narrative

structure of the dream state we've

discussed this at Great length in recent

ipsa professional training seminars and

we will be making more videos on this

for young to liveby soon the last

informational state of the ego we need

to discuss is our ongoing Center of

awareness what Jan and Yung called the

center of the field of Consciousness and

Freud the periphery of the ego in Steve

and Pauline's psychos systems analysis

the equivalent is the Miller number

field this is our ongoing immediate

conscious awareness it has an

informational processing capacity of

seven plus orus two chunks of

information rather than being the center

of the ego the number field is instead a

focused interface between the extended

inner and outer domains of our

subjective waveform which is the dynamic

collapse of the wider objective waveform

into our reflexive Consciousness the

inner domain refers to inter reception

and the intra psychic and the outer

domain refers to the extra receptive and

our social environment the mediating

system of information processing between

inner and outer outer experience has

evolved to deal with the demands of in

the- moment ongoing adaptation including

the organizing of behavior towards

meeting our internal and external

homeostatic needs where meeting such

needs are Beyond an internal metabolic

level of self-regulation in humans the

Miller number is a very ancient

philogenetic system whose informational

carrying capacities and representational

configurations have been built upon

highly adaptive and conserved functions

from the remote past indeed in their

simplest form right back to single cell

organisms so the Miller number

configures the immediate adaptive

representation or state of the ego but

it is not the center of the EG's field

in fact there is no Center to the ego's

field per se as you can see from the

schema on screen so too as we've

discussed Yung spoke of complexes as

having an archetypal core in psychos

systems analysis Janan complexes have a

meta instinctive core but really said

core opens up into an entire field of

informational representation in summary

the ego is an emergent field released

ontologically in relationship to innate

anticipations and experience its field

is distributed into several

superpositioned subfields the Miller

number the Persona the self-image the

self-concept the complex field and the

dream ego the ego is therefore not

localized into a single place in the

brain although the brain's evolutionary

development does map the integrated and

superpositioned field nature of the ego

as this is imminent with the development

of the brain at the neurophysiological

level this means that the ego is

simultaneously all of its

superpositioned subfields all of those

elements discussed so far as these are

dynamically distributed informationally

and materially our everyday

understanding of the ego as being

conscious and being the subjective eye

that experiences Moment by moment reflex

of awareness is therefore only a partial

focal collapse of its overall field

informational monism and

superpositioning Define the emergent

field of the ego in contrast to

Consciousness simply being defined as

our ongoing sense of awareness psychos

systems analysis defines Consciousness

to be a complexity of in

that represents itself to itself and

then represents itself to other

complexities of information this

Baseline definition is derived from

informational monism and superposition

Theory which is a platonic ontological

modeling of Consciousness as such and is

a priori to the collapse of

Consciousness into human EG

Consciousness so taken overall

Consciousness is a dynamic informational

field phenomenon that exists in many

simultaneous superpositioned States like those we've discussed so far with each

those we've discussed so far with each state being a nodal point of collapse of

state being a nodal point of collapse of representation of Consciousness with

representation of Consciousness with that collapse defining any given state

that collapse defining any given state or organized system as being that state

or organized system as being that state or system and the intra or inter

or system and the intra or inter relational Fields within and between

relational Fields within and between them for the ego the change in relative

them for the ego the change in relative state of consciousness both within and

state of consciousness both within and between the nodal points of this field

between the nodal points of this field defines the relative veency of the

defines the relative veency of the information in relation to our

information in relation to our subjective reflexivity that is to our

subjective reflexivity that is to our ongoing awareness both of our continuity

ongoing awareness both of our continuity of personal identity and how this

of personal identity and how this changes over time updating can be either

changes over time updating can be either or both Progressive and retrogressive

or both Progressive and retrogressive under the influence of bioc Psychosocial

under the influence of bioc Psychosocial field pressure this includes genomic

field pressure this includes genomic instinctive developmental int psychic

instinctive developmental int psychic social and environmental factors there's

social and environmental factors there's one more type of informational state to

one more type of informational state to discuss and that's the qualia of

discuss and that's the qualia of Consciousness the qualia of

Consciousness the qualia of Consciousness are the ontological and

Consciousness are the ontological and evolutionary qualia of Consciousness

evolutionary qualia of Consciousness shown on this schema all are

shown on this schema all are superpositioned with each other meaning

superpositioned with each other meaning that each is imminent with the same

that each is imminent with the same fundamental information present in all

fundamental information present in all of them as qualia of Consciousness

of them as qualia of Consciousness specifically each represents a type of

specifically each represents a type of Consciousness the most fundamental is

Consciousness the most fundamental is intuition as ground State field

intuition as ground State field Consciousness intuition superpositions

Consciousness intuition superpositions itself into the other four qualia up

itself into the other four qualia up through inter receptive and exter

through inter receptive and exter receptive these are analogous to yung's

receptive these are analogous to yung's introverted and extroverted sensing

introverted and extroverted sensing functions respectively and they're

functions respectively and they're labeled on this schema as sematic and

labeled on this schema as sematic and sensory next up more recently evolved is

sensory next up more recently evolved is affect as defined specifically by

affect as defined specifically by affective neuroscience and neuros

affective neuroscience and neuros psychoanalysis as a priori to cognition

psychoanalysis as a priori to cognition and then up to cognition itself as being

and then up to cognition itself as being the most recently evolved cognitive

the most recently evolved cognitive function analogous to both of yung's

function analogous to both of yung's feeling and thinking functions feeling

feeling and thinking functions feeling for Yung was an affect toned rational

for Yung was an affect toned rational function rather than a state of pure

function rather than a state of pure affect in psychos systems analysis thus

affect in psychos systems analysis thus the yongan feeling function is nitive

the yongan feeling function is nitive but with a receptivity to

but with a receptivity to superpositioned affect which is absent

superpositioned affect which is absent in pure thinking as Yung models that to

in pure thinking as Yung models that to be the ego represents its experience of

be the ego represents its experience of itself and the extended internal and

itself and the extended internal and external environments through any and

external environments through any and all of the post inuitive qualia of

all of the post inuitive qualia of Consciousness so cognition affect

Consciousness so cognition affect sensation and sematic under normal

sensation and sematic under normal conditions intuition can't represent

conditions intuition can't represent itself as itself it must collapse into

itself as itself it must collapse into one or more of the other

one or more of the other representational qualia however under

representational qualia however under these special conditions of advanced

these special conditions of advanced dissociative training and practice

dissociative training and practice eastern and western Traditions it is

eastern and western Traditions it is possible to escape the limitations of

possible to escape the limitations of informational collapse into the PO

informational collapse into the PO inuitive qualia of EG Consciousness this

inuitive qualia of EG Consciousness this Advanced dissociative experience also

Advanced dissociative experience also increases the bandwidth of the Miller

increases the bandwidth of the Miller number internally Steve and Pauline

number internally Steve and Pauline explain exactly how to do this using

explain exactly how to do this using their neuro hypnoanalysis and psychos

their neuro hypnoanalysis and psychos systems analysis as part of professional

systems analysis as part of professional training at ipsa including with live

training at ipsa including with live demonstrations for somebody dealing with

demonstrations for somebody dealing with a trauma induced or trauma informed

a trauma induced or trauma informed complex this schema represents both the

complex this schema represents both the immediate phenomenological felt problem

immediate phenomenological felt problem and one of its Solutions remembering

and one of its Solutions remembering that complexes are always bioc

that complexes are always bioc psychosocial they will always have

psychosocial they will always have representation in all of the post

representation in all of the post intuitive qualia of Consciousness

intuitive qualia of Consciousness usually someone is only aware of one or

usually someone is only aware of one or two due to the limited processing

two due to the limited processing capacity of the Millan number such as

capacity of the Millan number such as racing cognition or a surge in affect or

racing cognition or a surge in affect or if so-called psychosomatic then

if so-called psychosomatic then distressing representation in sensation

distressing representation in sensation or sematic regardless of the in the-

or sematic regardless of the in the- moment qualia configuration of the

moment qualia configuration of the subjective waveform of the ego however

subjective waveform of the ego however the other qualia including ground state

the other qualia including ground state intuition are always super

intuition are always super superpositioned with it merely outside

superpositioned with it merely outside of Millum awareness through healthy

of Millum awareness through healthy dissociation progressively down through

dissociation progressively down through the qualia of Consciousness it is

the qualia of Consciousness it is absolutely possible to configure the EG

absolutely possible to configure the EG field to be receptive to those other

field to be receptive to those other informational Fields metaphorically

informational Fields metaphorically deeper than the ego this is represented

deeper than the ego this is represented by the ancestral psyche the domain of

by the ancestral psyche the domain of the meta instincts superpositioned very

the meta instincts superpositioned very closely with the genome and its lifespan

closely with the genome and its lifespan development

development intentionality this and other

intentionality this and other dissociative methods taught by Steve and

dissociative methods taught by Steve and Pauline bypasses complexes completely

Pauline bypasses complexes completely without any need to confront them nor

without any need to confront them nor any need to feel an unpleasant surge of

any need to feel an unpleasant surge of affect metaphorically going straight to

affect metaphorically going straight to the genome and its meta fields of

the genome and its meta fields of Regulation and intentionality is how

Regulation and intentionality is how true healing change can

arise moving on to the final model that we're going to discuss in this section

we're going to discuss in this section the emerging field of neuros

the emerging field of neuros psychoanalysis has developed its own

psychoanalysis has developed its own biologically informed non- psycho

biologically informed non- psycho reductive model of the human psyche for

reductive model of the human psyche for application in a clinical setting with

application in a clinical setting with the term neuros psychoanalysis first

the term neuros psychoanalysis first forly used in

forly used in 1999 the founder of the field Mark salms

1999 the founder of the field Mark salms has syncretized modern Neuroscience in

has syncretized modern Neuroscience in particular the late Yak pp's affective

particular the late Yak pp's affective Neuroscience with Freud

Neuroscience with Freud psychodynamics you'll recall when we

psychodynamics you'll recall when we mentioned Brer and Freud's studies on

mentioned Brer and Freud's studies on hysteria earlier on that even as early

hysteria earlier on that even as early as 1893 Brer and Freud were proposing

as 1893 Brer and Freud were proposing that affect which was not discharged or

that affect which was not discharged or processed appropriately was Central in

processed appropriately was Central in the development of Psychopathology in

the development of Psychopathology in neuros psychoanalysis that Axiom is

neuros psychoanalysis that Axiom is expanded on in biological detail albeit

expanded on in biological detail albeit with some significant updates Freud

with some significant updates Freud believed in two drives OS and Thanatos

believed in two drives OS and Thanatos these drives exerted quote a demand on

these drives exerted quote a demand on the mind to perform work the ego's task

the mind to perform work the ego's task was to take this so-called demand and

was to take this so-called demand and reality tested for viability against the

reality tested for viability against the environment and against the pressure of

environment and against the pressure of the super egoo Mark SS has updated

the super egoo Mark SS has updated Freud's two drives of os and Thanatos

Freud's two drives of os and Thanatos with the seven drives of affective

with the seven drives of affective Neuroscience detailed and named by Yak

Neuroscience detailed and named by Yak PP these are seeking rage fear lust care

PP these are seeking rage fear lust care play and panic SL grief all of them are

play and panic SL grief all of them are independent psychon neurological

independent psychon neurological circuits within the subcortical regions

circuits within the subcortical regions of the mamalian brain hence seven drives

of the mamalian brain hence seven drives these drives to quote Mark salms extend

these drives to quote Mark salms extend organic homeostasis beyond the body

organic homeostasis beyond the body they're always signaling to the per

they're always signaling to the per aqueductal gray a small structure in the

aqueductal gray a small structure in the brain stem a specific need which the

brain stem a specific need which the organism or the person needs to meet the

organism or the person needs to meet the pepian circuitry then sends a signal up

pepian circuitry then sends a signal up to these cerebral hemispheres and at the

to these cerebral hemispheres and at the same time the need that signal

same time the need that signal corresponds to is felt as affect this

corresponds to is felt as affect this affective signal represents the ID the

affective signal represents the ID the conscious ID to use Mark SS's

conscious ID to use Mark SS's terminology and his update to Freud's

terminology and his update to Freud's original model in which the ID was

original model in which the ID was unconscious the conscious ID then brings

unconscious the conscious ID then brings the ego online which is by default

the ego online which is by default unconscious again in Freud's model it

unconscious again in Freud's model it was the ego that was conscious but in

was the ego that was conscious but in neuros psychoanalysis that's been

neuros psychoanalysis that's been reversed in neuros psychoanalysis the

reversed in neuros psychoanalysis the ego including Freud's pre-conscious is

ego including Freud's pre-conscious is represented by some aspects of long-term

represented by some aspects of long-term memory and the sensory and motor

memory and the sensory and motor projection and Association coures the

projection and Association coures the person is then both able to feel the

person is then both able to feel the need and make an action plan of how best

need and make an action plan of how best they can meet the need most of this

they can meet the need most of this action planning happens unconsciously

action planning happens unconsciously and it utilizes both the declarative and

and it utilizes both the declarative and non-de declarative types of long-term

non-de declarative types of long-term memory declarative memory is the

memory declarative memory is the equivalent of Freud's preconscious these

equivalent of Freud's preconscious these memories can be brought back into

memories can be brought back into conscious awareness non declarative

conscious awareness non declarative memories however cannot they have lost

memories however cannot they have lost or never had in the first place any

or never had in the first place any image representation or form which is

image representation or form which is capable of being scrutinized directly by

capable of being scrutinized directly by cognition thus the person cannot know

cognition thus the person cannot know directly where they came from they are

directly where they came from they are responsible for what mark salms Cs

responsible for what mark salms Cs automatization and therefore much of

automatization and therefore much of neurosis they are though very

neurosis they are though very significantly different the neuros

significantly different the neuros psychoanalysis equivalent of complexes

psychoanalysis equivalent of complexes the automatization from non- declarative

the automatization from non- declarative memory act as automatic responses to an

memory act as automatic responses to an internal panpan stimulus in other words

internal panpan stimulus in other words a pepian drive signals up to the ego to

a pepian drive signals up to the ego to meet its needs in the world at which

meet its needs in the world at which point non-declarative memory tends to

point non-declarative memory tends to deliver an attempted hardcode solution

deliver an attempted hardcode solution to this need automatically if the

to this need automatically if the solution is a bad one probably set up a

solution is a bad one probably set up a very long time ago in the past then the

very long time ago in the past then the pepian need will remain unsatiated and

pepian need will remain unsatiated and will continue to fire this in neuros

will continue to fire this in neuros psychoanalysis would Mark a state of

psychoanalysis would Mark a state of neurosis a state of affective Drive

neurosis a state of affective Drive pressure without any Consciousness by

pressure without any Consciousness by the person as to why they're feeling

the person as to why they're feeling that way at all their unconscious

that way at all their unconscious solution to trying to meet an often

solution to trying to meet an often unknown need has failed through building

unknown need has failed through building Consciousness around what their failed

Consciousness around what their failed solution entails the neuropsychoanalytic

solution entails the neuropsychoanalytic therapist can help a patient build new

therapist can help a patient build new adaptations on top of the old ones to

adaptations on top of the old ones to eventually meet the panpan need and

eventually meet the panpan need and hence resolve Neurosis

hence resolve Neurosis neuropsychoanalysis represents part of

neuropsychoanalysis represents part of the new paradigm of

psychotherapy we're almost ready to move on to the hour of podcast dialectic

on to the hour of podcast dialectic included in this video but before we get

included in this video but before we get there we have a very exciting

there we have a very exciting announcement to make back in 20123 Steve

announcement to make back in 20123 Steve announced in a bulletin report for the

announced in a bulletin report for the international neuros psychoanalysis

international neuros psychoanalysis society that he and Pauline were

society that he and Pauline were introducing a new development in

introducing a new development in clinical Psychotherapy a sister modality

clinical Psychotherapy a sister modality to psychos systems analysis which is

to psychos systems analysis which is heavily aligned in spirit with core

heavily aligned in spirit with core neuros

neuros psychoanalysis its name is yungan

psychoanalysis its name is yungan neuropsychoanalysis today we'd like to

neuropsychoanalysis today we'd like to announce that Steve and Pauline have

announce that Steve and Pauline have recently founded the international

recently founded the international Society for yungi and neuros

Society for yungi and neuros psychoanalysis with its core purpose

psychoanalysis with its core purpose being the reproach of the early

being the reproach of the early scientific work of Freud and young

scientific work of Freud and young brought up todate with the latest

brought up todate with the latest clinical and scientific research

clinical and scientific research advances as a system modality to psychos

advances as a system modality to psychos systems analysis yungi and neuros

systems analysis yungi and neuros psychoanalysis has has been informed and

psychoanalysis has has been informed and inspired by many prominent clinicians

inspired by many prominent clinicians researchers and individuals spread out

researchers and individuals spread out over the last 140

over the last 140 years Pierre

years Pierre Jan Joseph Brer Sigman Freud oan

Jan Joseph Brer Sigman Freud oan bler Carl Young Alfred arler rert

bler Carl Young Alfred arler rert sheldrake Steven Rose Anthony

sheldrake Steven Rose Anthony Stevens George Engle

Stevens George Engle France young Ernest

France young Ernest Rossy Steve Richards co-founder of

Rossy Steve Richards co-founder of psychos systems

psychos systems analysis Pauline Richards co-founder of

analysis Pauline Richards co-founder of psychos systems analysis Yak Pang

psychos systems analysis Yak Pang founder of affective

founder of affective neuroscience and Mark SS the founder of

neuroscience and Mark SS the founder of neuros

neuros psychoanalysis the work of everyone just

psychoanalysis the work of everyone just mentioned alchemically forged together

mentioned alchemically forged together to bring Freud and yung's work back

to bring Freud and yung's work back together for the modern day is yungan

together for the modern day is yungan neuros psychoanalysis Steve Pauline and

neuros psychoanalysis Steve Pauline and I are all clinical fellows of the

I are all clinical fellows of the international neuros psychoanalysis

international neuros psychoanalysis Society or npsa with Steve and Pauline

Society or npsa with Steve and Pauline being the founders of yan neuros

being the founders of yan neuros psychoanalysis and its Society I am

psychoanalysis and its Society I am incredibly blessed to be named by Sten

incredibly blessed to be named by Sten Pauline as a co-developer of this new

Pauline as a co-developer of this new exciting Endeavor the international

exciting Endeavor the international Society for yungi and neuros psycho

Society for yungi and neuros psycho analysis has its own website Linked In

analysis has its own website Linked In the description down below you're

the description down below you're welcome to check that out if you would

welcome to check that out if you would like to it's just a landing page at the

like to it's just a landing page at the moment though so more information will

moment though so more information will be coming very soon we will also be

be coming very soon we will also be starting a new YouTube channel for that

starting a new YouTube channel for that new society and we'll announce that to

new society and we'll announce that to you guys as soon as possible and with

you guys as soon as possible and with that we are now ready to move on to the

that we are now ready to move on to the next part of this

next part of this video if we're going to understand the

video if we're going to understand the coming psychosomatic storm then we need

coming psychosomatic storm then we need to explore in as much detail as we

to explore in as much detail as we possibly can the infodynamics of how

possibly can the infodynamics of how psychosomatic conditions form how they

psychosomatic conditions form how they present and how to resolve them and the

present and how to resolve them and the best way to do this is through the

best way to do this is through the context of two clinical case studies the

context of two clinical case studies the first of which is coming up in just a

first of which is coming up in just a moment first of all though I'd like to

moment first of all though I'd like to walk you through some brief background

walk you through some brief background on capnography now this is a clinical

on capnography now this is a clinical diagnostic tool used by Steve and

diagnostic tool used by Steve and Pauline of immense utility for

Pauline of immense utility for uncovering ing psychosomatic complexes

uncovering ing psychosomatic complexes the apograph was used in both of the

the apograph was used in both of the case studies coming up in this video so

case studies coming up in this video so it's essential to provide a primer for

it's essential to provide a primer for you a capnograph is a small machine

you a capnograph is a small machine which measures using infrared Mass

which measures using infrared Mass spectrometry the concentration of carbon

spectrometry the concentration of carbon dioxide in the breath during exhalation

dioxide in the breath during exhalation this value directly corresponds via a

this value directly corresponds via a small conversion equation to the partial

small conversion equation to the partial pressure of carbon dioxide in the blood

pressure of carbon dioxide in the blood carbon dioxide is absolutely essential

carbon dioxide is absolutely essential for the blood's pH buffering system

for the blood's pH buffering system system it dissolves into the plasma as

system it dissolves into the plasma as carbonic acid and acts to maintain the

carbonic acid and acts to maintain the blood's pH as close to 7.4 as possible

blood's pH as close to 7.4 as possible cellular metabolism releases carbon

cellular metabolism releases carbon dioxide into the blood and exhalation

dioxide into the blood and exhalation releases it into the environment without

releases it into the environment without a buffering system blood pH would thus

a buffering system blood pH would thus Ricochet from acid to alkali rapidly

Ricochet from acid to alkali rapidly depending on how fast someone was

depending on how fast someone was breathing or how high their metabolic

breathing or how high their metabolic rate was whole body homeostasis and

rate was whole body homeostasis and therefore life cannot sustain itself

therefore life cannot sustain itself without blood pH being as close to 7.4

without blood pH being as close to 7.4 as possible if we consider

as possible if we consider hyperventilation technically defined not

hyperventilation technically defined not by mechanical rate of breathing as one

by mechanical rate of breathing as one might otherwise imagine but as breathing

might otherwise imagine but as breathing beyond the body's physiological needs

beyond the body's physiological needs then it follows that such a state would

then it follows that such a state would cause breathing off of too much carbon

cause breathing off of too much carbon dioxide relative to the person's net

dioxide relative to the person's net metabolic rate thus the blood's pH

metabolic rate thus the blood's pH buffer shifts its dynamic equilibrium to

buffer shifts its dynamic equilibrium to the range of being slightly alkalotic

the range of being slightly alkalotic less of the acidic carbonic acid is

less of the acidic carbonic acid is available to take part in the buffer and

available to take part in the buffer and so the pH Rises if someone has

so the pH Rises if someone has pre-existing issues with their

pre-existing issues with their cardiovascular system such a state can

cardiovascular system such a state can be fatal but for the average healthy

be fatal but for the average healthy person rather than being immediately

person rather than being immediately life-threatening it is nonetheless very

life-threatening it is nonetheless very well documented to cause an array of

well documented to cause an array of unpleasant somatic symptoms capnography

unpleasant somatic symptoms capnography through measuring the concentration of

through measuring the concentration of carbon dioxid dissolved in the breath is

carbon dioxid dissolved in the breath is thus a highly effective diagnostic tool

thus a highly effective diagnostic tool for uncovering Respiratory alkalosis in

for uncovering Respiratory alkalosis in 1990 at charin Cross Hospital in London

1990 at charin Cross Hospital in London Steve and Pauline introduced clinical

Steve and Pauline introduced clinical capnography and the Charing Cross method

capnography and the Charing Cross method into NHS Primary Healthcare specifically

into NHS Primary Healthcare specifically the Psychotherapy hypnotherapy

the Psychotherapy hypnotherapy counseling and Stress Management

counseling and Stress Management Provisions Pauline had already been

Provisions Pauline had already been using it in Psychiatry since 1989

using it in Psychiatry since 1989 beginning in 1988 through original

beginning in 1988 through original clinical empiricism Steve and Pauline

clinical empiricism Steve and Pauline integrated capnography with their unique

integrated capnography with their unique modality of hypnotherapy and their bioc

modality of hypnotherapy and their bioc psychosocial model of complexes never

psychosocial model of complexes never before had capnography been used in a

before had capnography been used in a psychodynamic context it had hitherto

psychodynamic context it had hitherto been deployed fundamentally in

been deployed fundamentally in biomedical and cognitive behavioral

biomedical and cognitive behavioral contexts by this time they had already

contexts by this time they had already studied Jan's work on dissociation

studied Jan's work on dissociation yung's scientific work on complexes

yung's scientific work on complexes including his use of the pneumograph and

including his use of the pneumograph and the galvanized skin response and Rossy

the galvanized skin response and Rossy had very recently published his 1988

had very recently published his 1988 book co-authored with David cheek Mind

book co-authored with David cheek Mind Body Therapy which outlined his

Body Therapy which outlined his transduction Pathways capnography

transduction Pathways capnography however again never before deployed in a

however again never before deployed in a psychodynamic context offered a new

psychodynamic context offered a new window into a person's internal millu

window into a person's internal millu which could be mapped in real time onto

which could be mapped in real time onto psychosocial and psychological factors

psychosocial and psychological factors through a broad clinical protocol

through a broad clinical protocol instinctive frustration causes

instinctive frustration causes dissociation of the EG field so to

dissociation of the EG field so to hyperventilation independently or

hyperventilation independently or coupled with instinctive frustration

coupled with instinctive frustration also dissociates the EG field

also dissociates the EG field remembering back to earlier we discussed

remembering back to earlier we discussed how dissociation is the immediate

how dissociation is the immediate precipitating Factor leading to the

precipitating Factor leading to the formation of complexes thus through

formation of complexes thus through their work on capnography Steve and

their work on capnography Steve and Pauline discovered that alkalotic blood

Pauline discovered that alkalotic blood pH marked by hyperventilation is one of

pH marked by hyperventilation is one of the most potent state encoders of

the most potent state encoders of complexes respiratory alkalosis

complexes respiratory alkalosis dissociates the EG field a complex can

dissociates the EG field a complex can form and that complex will then

form and that complex will then subsequently always act to reconst

subsequently always act to reconst delate the respiratory alkalosis as its

delate the respiratory alkalosis as its setup conditions let's see this in

setup conditions let's see this in action once you see what's to follow it

action once you see what's to follow it would be impossible to have a psycho

would be impossible to have a psycho reductive view of complexes or of The

reductive view of complexes or of The Human Condition ever again on screen is

Human Condition ever again on screen is a capnogram from a case conducted by

a capnogram from a case conducted by Steve and Pauline on the 22nd of July

Steve and Pauline on the 22nd of July 1991 with a female patient of 27 years

1991 with a female patient of 27 years of age the x axis shows time running

of age the x axis shows time running from right to left with each segment

from right to left with each segment like this marking 2 minutes so this

like this marking 2 minutes so this whole capnography session took

whole capnography session took approximately 29 minutes the y- AIS

approximately 29 minutes the y- AIS shows percentage of CO2 with each

shows percentage of CO2 with each percentage Point corresponding to a

percentage Point corresponding to a value of 7 .6 mm of mercury the lower

value of 7 .6 mm of mercury the lower the millimeters of mercury then the more

the millimeters of mercury then the more CO2 the person is breathing off which as

CO2 the person is breathing off which as we've said is a direct indicator of the

we've said is a direct indicator of the blood pH shifting towards alkalosis

blood pH shifting towards alkalosis hence hyperventilation breathing beyond

hence hyperventilation breathing beyond the body's physiological needs at the

the body's physiological needs at the time this case was conducted any value

time this case was conducted any value less than 29 mm of mercury was

less than 29 mm of mercury was considered Frank hypercapnea with the

considered Frank hypercapnea with the normal range being being 35 to 40 Steve

normal range being being 35 to 40 Steve Pauline consider this too harsh a cut

Pauline consider this too harsh a cut off but regardless of this it's clear to

off but regardless of this it's clear to see just at a glance that this patient's

see just at a glance that this patient's CO2 is fluctuating chaotically with the

CO2 is fluctuating chaotically with the vast majority well beneath any

vast majority well beneath any reasonable cutof point for Frank

reasonable cutof point for Frank hypocapnia wherever you see dark shading

hypocapnia wherever you see dark shading this is indicative of Rapid breathing

this is indicative of Rapid breathing the chart strip pen was moving so fast

the chart strip pen was moving so fast in correspondence to the breath cycle

in correspondence to the breath cycle that it was literally just writing over

that it was literally just writing over itself

itself if we start from the right hand side

if we start from the right hand side this point here shows the first breath

this point here shows the first breath detected by the capnograph in this

detected by the capnograph in this initial rest period so just the

initial rest period so just the capnograph detecting breathing at rest

capnograph detecting breathing at rest you can see that the CO2 more or less

you can see that the CO2 more or less immediately dropped into chaos we can

immediately dropped into chaos we can easily infer from this that the

easily infer from this that the individual was hypocapnic at rest this

individual was hypocapnic at rest this state on its own is sufficient for many

state on its own is sufficient for many psychosomatic symptoms to develop and

psychosomatic symptoms to develop and progress an alkal blood pH as a whole

progress an alkal blood pH as a whole body State encoder of biopsychosocial

body State encoder of biopsychosocial complexes then as was standard practice

complexes then as was standard practice at the time though Steve and Pauline

at the time though Steve and Pauline soon after dropped it completely as it's

soon after dropped it completely as it's not needed the patient was asked to go

not needed the patient was asked to go through a forced hyperventilation

through a forced hyperventilation provocation test for 2 minutes the

provocation test for 2 minutes the purpose of this was to sensitize the

purpose of this was to sensitize the patient to hyperventilation for a brief

patient to hyperventilation for a brief period of time so that what would

period of time so that what would otherwise be very small changes in CO2

otherwise be very small changes in CO2 would would be magnified in value making

would would be magnified in value making psychophysiological rate of change

psychophysiological rate of change easier to detect as expected the CO2

easier to detect as expected the CO2 drops literally because they are

drops literally because they are hyperventilating the patient is then

hyperventilating the patient is then asked to report when their breathing

asked to report when their breathing feels normal again that's the MB n my

feels normal again that's the MB n my breathing is normal in the notes at the

breathing is normal in the notes at the bottom they say that their breathing is

bottom they say that their breathing is normal here despite a Frank hypercapnic

normal here despite a Frank hypercapnic CO2 reading meaning that they were

CO2 reading meaning that they were positive for what's called failure of

positive for what's called failure of perception of hypocapnia this CO2 level

perception of hypocapnia this CO2 level should not be felt as normal hence this

should not be felt as normal hence this is indicative of a level of dissociation

is indicative of a level of dissociation a failure of perception of hypocapnia

a failure of perception of hypocapnia was synonymous for Charing Cross at the

was synonymous for Charing Cross at the time with the sensitization that was

time with the sensitization that was aimed for through the forced

aimed for through the forced hyperventilation provocation test

hyperventilation provocation test however Steve and Pauline found as we

however Steve and Pauline found as we mentioned a moment ago that this was not

mentioned a moment ago that this was not needed it is entirely possible through

needed it is entirely possible through the psychodynamic process again of

the psychodynamic process again of dissociation for someone to believe that

dissociation for someone to believe that their breathing is normal when in fact

their breathing is normal when in fact it clearly isn't without any need for

it clearly isn't without any need for forced hyperventilation therefore

forced hyperventilation therefore whenever you see MB i n for this patient

whenever you see MB i n for this patient you are seeing dissociation then Steve

you are seeing dissociation then Steve moves into the think test this is

moves into the think test this is exactly what it sounds like the patient

exactly what it sounds like the patient is asked to think about a certain aspect

is asked to think about a certain aspect or occurrence in their lives selected

or occurrence in their lives selected before the session and the

before the session and the psychophysiological response is measured

psychophysiological response is measured by the capnograph for the first think

by the capnograph for the first think test trouble at work the CO2 value Rises

test trouble at work the CO2 value Rises away from the restored Baseline being no

away from the restored Baseline being no longer chaotic but then the breathing

longer chaotic but then the breathing starts to grow rapid and the chaotic

starts to grow rapid and the chaotic pattern of breathing returns then they

pattern of breathing returns then they asked to report when their breathing is

asked to report when their breathing is normal marked here then there's the

normal marked here then there's the think test for parents again you see a

think test for parents again you see a fall in CO2 followed by a brief rise

fall in CO2 followed by a brief rise then a fall before the patient is asked

then a fall before the patient is asked to report when they feel their breathing

to report when they feel their breathing is normal again this section also picks

is normal again this section also picks up a breath holding pattern from the

up a breath holding pattern from the patient represented here by an

patient represented here by an incomplete line literally an unfinished

incomplete line literally an unfinished breath then for the final think test

breath then for the final think test abortion there's a massive collapse in

abortion there's a massive collapse in CO2 value marking a strong AB reaction

CO2 value marking a strong AB reaction you can see the continued fall all the

you can see the continued fall all the way down to beneath 7.6 mm of mercury

way down to beneath 7.6 mm of mercury Sharon cross would have said that this

Sharon cross would have said that this person was at immediate risk of coronary

person was at immediate risk of coronary artery spasm or any number of

artery spasm or any number of potentially fatal cardiovascular events

potentially fatal cardiovascular events the think test of abortion had revealed

the think test of abortion had revealed very starkly the athology of her complex

very starkly the athology of her complex the surrounding Circumstances had not

the surrounding Circumstances had not been disclosed by the patient to Steve

been disclosed by the patient to Steve in this initial capnography session but

in this initial capnography session but the patient had been raped leading to

the patient had been raped leading to her conceiving a child she decided to

her conceiving a child she decided to undergo an abortion all of this from the

undergo an abortion all of this from the rape to the abortion had wounded her

rape to the abortion had wounded her significantly she had been unable to

significantly she had been unable to understand at the level of instinct what

understand at the level of instinct what had happened to her instead her ego

had happened to her instead her ego partitioned through Jan and dissociation

partitioned through Jan and dissociation to deal with the instinctive pressure

to deal with the instinctive pressure that partition had remained as a janean

that partition had remained as a janean complex State encoded via an alkalotic

complex State encoded via an alkalotic blood pH extremely likely the exact

blood pH extremely likely the exact conditions under which it Formed I.E

conditions under which it Formed I.E acute hypervent vation this complex was

acute hypervent vation this complex was then activated At The Mention Of

then activated At The Mention Of abortion immediately constellating its

abortion immediately constellating its original setup conditions of respiratory

original setup conditions of respiratory alkalosis this shows definitively that

alkalosis this shows definitively that complexes truly are bioc psychosocial

complexes truly are bioc psychosocial the rape was later disclosed in the

the rape was later disclosed in the immediate follow-up session Steve and

immediate follow-up session Steve and Pauline will discuss the psychodynamics

Pauline will discuss the psychodynamics behind this part of the cogram later on

behind this part of the cogram later on in this chapter to restore the patient's

in this chapter to restore the patient's breathing back to normal as this had ly

breathing back to normal as this had ly become an acute emergency Steve began a

become an acute emergency Steve began a hypnotic induction which you can see

hypnotic induction which you can see start here immediately there's a huge

start here immediately there's a huge rise in CO2 back up to roughly the

rise in CO2 back up to roughly the patient's resting value followed by a

patient's resting value followed by a period of 2 minutes during which the ab

period of 2 minutes during which the ab reaction perseverates indicative of the

reaction perseverates indicative of the state the complex attempting to resist

state the complex attempting to resist the hypnotic induction then the hypnosis

the hypnotic induction then the hypnosis kicks in and you see that Trans State

kicks in and you see that Trans State maintained for 5 minutes with by far the

maintained for 5 minutes with by far the most normal regular breathing on the

most normal regular breathing on the chart strip recorder the hypnosis had

chart strip recorder the hypnosis had encouraged very very quickly

encouraged very very quickly homeostasis to turn the acute complex

homeostasis to turn the acute complex State off and thus she was back to

State off and thus she was back to normal to look further at this we can

normal to look further at this we can see that the hypnotic induction lasted

see that the hypnotic induction lasted for 2 minutes once the patient entered

for 2 minutes once the patient entered fully into the Trans State then the rise

fully into the Trans State then the rise in CO2 was sustained at a uniform level

in CO2 was sustained at a uniform level at roughly her resting value

at roughly her resting value there has to be a transition period that

there has to be a transition period that is the hypnotic induction from a normal

is the hypnotic induction from a normal waking consciousness into a Trans State

waking consciousness into a Trans State when someone is in a highly distressed

when someone is in a highly distressed State like this patient then trying an

State like this patient then trying an immediate induction is potentially

immediate induction is potentially highly risky so she needed a period of

highly risky so she needed a period of time where her attention was drawn to

time where her attention was drawn to the process of entering hypnosis that's

the process of entering hypnosis that's the 2 minutes in which Steve was calm

the 2 minutes in which Steve was calm relaxed and paced as soon as she entered

relaxed and paced as soon as she entered into the Trans State the actual change

into the Trans State the actual change took seconds Steve and Pauline can

took seconds Steve and Pauline can provide more detail on this as it's

provide more detail on this as it's important to be aware of it I mean there

important to be aware of it I mean there are therapists who rely on a kind of a

are therapists who rely on a kind of a rapid induction aren't there um hate to

rapid induction aren't there um hate to say it but often they are aggressive in

say it but often they are aggressive in the sense that they're boundary breaking

the sense that they're boundary breaking and they involve touching or leaning

and they involve touching or leaning into someone that kind of thing that's a

into someone that kind of thing that's a really good which um is to be avoided

really good which um is to be avoided because obviously that just fuel for the

because obviously that just fuel for the transference it is um that they tend to

transference it is um that they tend to be the kind of things all almost like in

be the kind of things all almost like in um sort of a Evangelical religious sense

um sort of a Evangelical religious sense when you get the you know laying on of

when you get the you know laying on of hands that kind of thing where you know

hands that kind of thing where you know you touch some on the forehead and they

you touch some on the forehead and they fall backwards you know we we don't we

fall backwards you know we we don't we don't indulge in that kind of thing

don't indulge in that kind of thing certainly don't and certainly with uh a

certainly don't and certainly with uh a female rape victim absolutely not who

female rape victim absolutely not who has the same name yes or the rapist has

has the same name yes or the rapist has the same name as the name of the

the same name as the name of the therapist you don't touch them there has

therapist you don't touch them there has to be clear boundaries there's got to be

to be clear boundaries there's got to be clear boundaries yeah

clear boundaries yeah um so yeah uh and and this is part of

um so yeah uh and and this is part of the way that we train people of course

the way that we train people of course is to be very sensitive about the field

is to be very sensitive about the field of interaction and just what you do and

of interaction and just what you do and don't do but even so um around a minute

don't do but even so um around a minute for someone in that acute phase of a

for someone in that acute phase of a Crisis psychophysiological crisis is

Crisis psychophysiological crisis is rapid just in seconds yeah but once the

rapid just in seconds yeah but once the induction has got underway then it is

induction has got underway then it is rapid so it's not as if you've got

rapid so it's not as if you've got someone who is dissociated

someone who is dissociated with respect to being in a Trans State

with respect to being in a Trans State but is not altering their

but is not altering their physiology you know which is possible

physiology you know which is possible you can you can have someone in a stay

you can you can have someone in a stay and they are still um hypnoidal State

and they are still um hypnoidal State and they are still suffering but they're

and they are still suffering but they're just not responding to the suffering but

just not responding to the suffering but removing the suffering um when when they

removing the suffering um when when they enter the state means that the

enter the state means that the inductions been handled very

inductions been handled very well and ideally so so that I think is

well and ideally so so that I think is what you can see on on on the captain

what you can see on on on the captain trace it was just to impacting me how

trace it was just to impacting me how important that is particularly in that

important that is particularly in that scenario yeah with a you know female

scenario yeah with a you know female rape victim and and a male therapist

rape victim and and a male therapist that could just go so horribly wrong and

that could just go so horribly wrong and effectively

retraumatization or any any combination thereof we avoid that kind of thing at

thereof we avoid that kind of thing at all

all costs yeah yeah so you had the usual

costs yeah yeah so you had the usual psychodynamic issues and you had the the

psychodynamic issues and you had the the acute this chronic crisis with an acute

acute this chronic crisis with an acute crisis overlaying on it um that was

crisis overlaying on it um that was psychophysiological so the way that you

psychophysiological so the way that you approach the induction is is going to be

approach the induction is is going to be really really important because you have

really really important because you have to reach in past the the noise and I by

to reach in past the the noise and I by that I don't mean that she was you know

that I don't mean that she was you know screaming or yelling or anything like

screaming or yelling or anything like that but I mean the iic field noise so

that but I mean the iic field noise so many signals are occupying all of the

many signals are occupying all of the receptive channels um that a person has

receptive channels um that a person has you have to be able to get inside that

you have to be able to get inside that uh make an anchoring point and then draw

uh make an anchoring point and then draw the attention of the person's meta

the attention of the person's meta Regulatory Field their homeostasis

Regulatory Field their homeostasis towards you and then you you develop the

towards you and then you you develop the induction and then you're in that state

induction and then you're in that state where they are separated off and the the

where they are separated off and the the physiological uh crisis itself collapses

physiological uh crisis itself collapses and

and normalizes so in that sense I would say

normalizes so in that sense I would say a minut is very rapid um but it's not

a minut is very rapid um but it's not that usual rapid form of induction which

that usual rapid form of induction which is

is aggressive authoritarian and direct and

aggressive authoritarian and direct and performative as well it's more like

performative as well it's more like stage hypnosis than it is the clinical

stage hypnosis than it is the clinical management of a serious case yeah moving

management of a serious case yeah moving on to a few final details before we

on to a few final details before we continue with this chapter in the

continue with this chapter in the results box on the left hand side you

results box on the left hand side you can see that this individual was

can see that this individual was positive for chronicity or arhythmia in

positive for chronicity or arhythmia in breathing positive for failure of

breathing positive for failure of perception of hypercapnia positive for

perception of hypercapnia positive for all three of the think tests and

all three of the think tests and positive for presenting symptoms the

positive for presenting symptoms the pattern of the chart strip recorder in

pattern of the chart strip recorder in accordance with what was asked of the

accordance with what was asked of the patient reveals the complexes involved

patient reveals the complexes involved in this person's state of resting

in this person's state of resting hypocapnea and hyperventilation their

hypocapnea and hyperventilation their overall resultant suggestibility how

overall resultant suggestibility how vulnerable they were and most

vulnerable they were and most importantly as shown by the hypnosis

importantly as shown by the hypnosis period the capacity to heal the case was

period the capacity to heal the case was ultimately successful with the complexes

ultimately successful with the complexes resolved and the physiology returned

resolved and the physiology returned back to health it's clear to see how

back to health it's clear to see how powerful capnography is for identifying

powerful capnography is for identifying the psychophysiological background state

the psychophysiological background state of an individual indeed how powerful

of an individual indeed how powerful hypnosis is for bringing forward

hypnosis is for bringing forward homeostasis against the inertia of

homeostasis against the inertia of complexes rapidly given what we know

complexes rapidly given what we know about this person's background state it

about this person's background state it is worthwhile to imagine what might have

is worthwhile to imagine what might have happened had they sought out for example

happened had they sought out for example exposure therapy instead it is very

exposure therapy instead it is very likely that this fall in CO2 here would

likely that this fall in CO2 here would easily have occurred it would have gone

easily have occurred it would have gone undetected except for being noted as an

undetected except for being noted as an abreaction and hence it would have been

abreaction and hence it would have been unmanaged potentially leading to their

unmanaged potentially leading to their death either immediately or through a

death either immediately or through a perseveration a few days or weeks later

perseveration a few days or weeks later let's move on to an in-depth discussion

let's move on to an in-depth discussion with Steve and Pauline Richards on

with Steve and Pauline Richards on psychosomatic transductions how they

psychosomatic transductions how they work why they happen and how to resolve

work why they happen and how to resolve them using this case study as the

them using this case study as the backbone Pauline will begin the

backbone Pauline will begin the discussion speaking on the link between

discussion speaking on the link between Pier Janet and Ernest Rossy who he

Pier Janet and Ernest Rossy who he discussed in detail at the beginning of

discussed in detail at the beginning of this video psychosomatic transduction

this video psychosomatic transduction Pathways and the essential importance of

Pathways and the essential importance of understanding dissociation as both the

understanding dissociation as both the cause of psychosomatic issues and the

cause of psychosomatic issues and the healthy means through which they can be

healthy means through which they can be resolved with something like a

resolved with something like a conversion reaction as it would be

conversion reaction as it would be called now obviously like you say

called now obviously like you say Steve's hysteria uh in Pierre Jan's day

Steve's hysteria uh in Pierre Jan's day is that the and and we know obviously

is that the and and we know obviously from the the uh work of the late Earnest

from the the uh work of the late Earnest Dr Ernest Rossy as well um who you know

Dr Ernest Rossy as well um who you know um built on Jan's work in effect by

um built on Jan's work in effect by describing the physiological Pathways

describing the physiological Pathways that allow uh the dis Associated

that allow uh the dis Associated psychological material to transduced

psychological material to transduced down into the body is that those those

down into the body is that those those Pathways exist um for that process to

Pathways exist um for that process to unfold and not necessarily always in you

unfold and not necessarily always in you know um a way that is conducive to

know um a way that is conducive to health so we typically see um the he

health so we typically see um the he would have called them dissociated

would have called them dissociated nuclear young complexes but essentially

nuclear young complexes but essentially that psychological material will map on

that psychological material will map on to the body and mimic or imitate um

to the body and mimic or imitate um physical diseases even in the absence of

physical diseases even in the absence of pathology yes and and this is a common

pathology yes and and this is a common experience isn't it for people to have

experience isn't it for people to have physical symptoms and to believe that

physical symptoms and to believe that they are suffering from some kind of

they are suffering from some kind of illness or physical disease process and

illness or physical disease process and that they go and see the doctor they

that they go and see the doctor they have lots of tests and nothing has found

have lots of tests and nothing has found physiologically wrong with them and then

physiologically wrong with them and then it's like well what are we looking at

it's like well what are we looking at here and then if you go and see someone

here and then if you go and see someone uh who is not equipped to deal with

uh who is not equipped to deal with those kinds of problems then the chances

those kinds of problems then the chances are it will just be dismissed as well

are it will just be dismissed as well it's psychosomatic but we can't really

it's psychosomatic but we can't really tell you how to do anything about that

tell you how to do anything about that we can't help you to reverse that

we can't help you to reverse that process and um we know obviously through

process and um we know obviously through the practice of um hypnosis clinically

the practice of um hypnosis clinically that it is possible to

that it is possible to um artificially dissociate someone in

um artificially dissociate someone in such a way that they they can separate

such a way that they they can separate off from the material if you like that

off from the material if you like that is being transduced into the body and

is being transduced into the body and harming them uh and then reassociating

harming them uh and then reassociating them back to um a time when

them back to um a time when the the homeostasis was such that it

the the homeostasis was such that it conferred Health yeah rather than

conferred Health yeah rather than illness uh and that reassociation Pro

illness uh and that reassociation Pro processes is so essential for dealing

processes is so essential for dealing with all sorts of trauma and Trauma of

with all sorts of trauma and Trauma of course as we've said many times before

course as we've said many times before isn't necessarily just one single event

isn't necessarily just one single event it can be lots of small um you know

it can be lots of small um you know experiences where that person feels

experiences where that person feels overwhelmed in some way and and and it

overwhelmed in some way and and and it it's incremental in effect uh but that's

it's incremental in effect uh but that's that's a solution ultimately yeah um to

that's a solution ultimately yeah um to solving that problem of dissociation in

solving that problem of dissociation in the first place yeah the C and the

the first place yeah the C and the solution are the same they are it just

solution are the same they are it just depends whether when you say artificial

depends whether when you say artificial what you really mean is that we

what you really mean is that we introduce we introdu it rather something

introduce we introdu it rather something that happens within the subject yes um

that happens within the subject yes um and that's that's the way that Jan

and that's that's the way that Jan described it and that's that's

described it and that's that's absolutely fine um so complexes then um

absolutely fine um so complexes then um utilized Association and there's an

utilized Association and there's an evolutionary adaptive advantage to being

evolutionary adaptive advantage to being able to dissociate because you can

able to dissociate because you can partition yourself off and leave run

partition yourself off and leave run time leave ramp available for dealing

time leave ramp available for dealing with the immediate moment whilst another

with the immediate moment whilst another parts of you the energetic and

parts of you the energetic and informational economy of us as human

informational economy of us as human beings can deal with these other factors

beings can deal with these other factors in the background that which is called

in the background that which is called the

the unconscious um so yeah we can go back to

unconscious um so yeah we can go back to time before something has happened but

time before something has happened but sometimes also we can go to a projected

sometimes also we can go to a projected future State that's anticipated by The

future State that's anticipated by The genome yeah rather than necessarily

genome yeah rather than necessarily going to the past and we've used both

going to the past and we've used both from we do depending on on the

from we do depending on on the circumstances um personally I found that

circumstances um personally I found that the the induction of a Trans State for

the the induction of a Trans State for someone who has entered into an

someone who has entered into an unwitting um automatic trans partition

unwitting um automatic trans partition because of a trauma entering into a new

because of a trauma entering into a new one is a completely different experience

one is a completely different experience because the ago is not only being uh

because the ago is not only being uh dissociated by another force from within

dissociated by another force from within itself outside of it own control to

itself outside of it own control to partition it's being invited to be a

partition it's being invited to be a participants observer in a relaxed way

participants observer in a relaxed way about its own natural capacity to

about its own natural capacity to dissociate in order to heal itself um

dissociate in order to heal itself um and that's hugely

and that's hugely important we can see that on the captain

important we can see that on the captain ground that that girl was in a terrible

ground that that girl was in a terrible State um potentially she could have had

State um potentially she could have had a fatal cardiac arhythmia with um the

a fatal cardiac arhythmia with um the CO2 and acid base level that low uh and

CO2 and acid base level that low uh and with within seconds she was hypernormal

with within seconds she was hypernormal and relaxed and completely at ease with

and relaxed and completely at ease with her

her experience um so that that shows how

experience um so that that shows how quick that can happen and as you said

quick that can happen and as you said earlier Paul physiologically that's not

earlier Paul physiologically that's not supposed to be possible no because she

supposed to be possible no because she was a chronic hyper ventilator with

was a chronic hyper ventilator with respect to the traumas that she'd been

respect to the traumas that she'd been through she had chronic acid Bas of a

through she had chronic acid Bas of a physiological level disregulation and

physiological level disregulation and psycho dyamic factors were active they

psycho dyamic factors were active they were brought into Association to her

were brought into Association to her conscious mind and hypnosis separated

conscious mind and hypnosis separated her

her identification with the psychodelic

identification with the psychodelic elements of the traumas and separated

elements of the traumas and separated her

her physiologically from the chronic effects

physiologically from the chronic effects physiologically of the trauma and that

physiologically of the trauma and that showed up in the entitled partial

showed up in the entitled partial pressure of carbon dioxide in her

pressure of carbon dioxide in her expired breath which is an index of the

expired breath which is an index of the pH value of her internal bodily FL words

pH value of her internal bodily FL words and then turn them my that shouldn't

and then turn them my that shouldn't happen but it does happen it shows there

happen but it does happen it shows there is something extremely powerful as a

is something extremely powerful as a homeostatic me meta regulator that you

homeostatic me meta regulator that you can access through

can access through dissociation and

dissociation and reassociation and it also shows that

reassociation and it also shows that dissociation is involved in

dissociation is involved in trauma hugely important yeah I I'm just

trauma hugely important yeah I I'm just mindful of of what would have happened

mindful of of what would have happened if you'd have worked with her uh outside

if you'd have worked with her uh outside of a Trans State uh and you'd encourage

of a Trans State uh and you'd encourage her say to you know to ruminate

her say to you know to ruminate essentially about her experience or

essentially about her experience or recapitulate or recapitulate it um there

recapitulate or recapitulate it um there would have been a very very different

would have been a very very different outcome to that so the the the process

outcome to that so the the the process of hypnosis itself and the trans

of hypnosis itself and the trans induction and the dissociation are a

induction and the dissociation are a safe way really aren't they of helping

safe way really aren't they of helping people to deal with trauma

people to deal with trauma and it beggers belief really when we

and it beggers belief really when we think about the kind of practice out

think about the kind of practice out there that somebody should attempt to

there that somebody should attempt to take somebody back and ret traumatize

take somebody back and ret traumatize them in that way by getting them to

them in that way by getting them to recapitulate what they've been through

recapitulate what they've been through it's probably about the worst thing

it's probably about the worst thing imaginable that you could

imaginable that you could do the repetition compulsion which you

do the repetition compulsion which you remind me of that P thing yeah which is

remind me of that P thing yeah which is um a common feature of post-traumatic

um a common feature of post-traumatic stress disorder as as it's called these

stress disorder as as it's called these days or complex post-traumatic stress

days or complex post-traumatic stress disorder those they've always existed

disorder those they've always existed they've had different names and they

they've had different names and they will exist in the future and will have

will exist in the future and will have different names but it's a it's a

different names but it's a it's a feature of human nature that we

feature of human nature that we typically as a species respond in that

typically as a species respond in that kind of way whatever name that we give

kind of way whatever name that we give to

to it it's important to understand that

it it's important to understand that that dissociation then is natural and we

that dissociation then is natural and we should utilize that natural process to

should utilize that natural process to reverse it uh and when we do it in the

reverse it uh and when we do it in the right way which is supportive then

right way which is supportive then people don't need to to uh feel the

people don't need to to uh feel the trauma again and as I say the repetition

trauma again and as I say the repetition compulsion a lot of therapists go for

compulsion a lot of therapists go for that and say this is the important thing

that and say this is the important thing I would say it's the expression of the

I would say it's the expression of the problem rather than the solution in a

problem rather than the solution in a reductive sense repetition compulsion is

reductive sense repetition compulsion is the problem repeating itself so rather

the problem repeating itself so rather than go to it and reinforce it by

than go to it and reinforce it by attention to it what we need to do is

attention to it what we need to do is separate our attachment to it and move

separate our attachment to it and move into another stage where it's no longer

into another stage where it's no longer associated to the ego and it's no longer

associated to the ego and it's no longer Associated and understood by the

Associated and understood by the so-called unconscious as being necessary

so-called unconscious as being necessary to

to do young described such things as um

do young described such things as um negative attempts at

negative attempts at self-cure and I think that was a

self-cure and I think that was a reasonable intuitive uh

reasonable intuitive uh observation but what we have to do in

observation but what we have to do in order to get the Cure is to access that

order to get the Cure is to access that part of a person that is interested in

part of a person that is interested in being well and we all have such a part

being well and we all have such a part of us and it is the m regor as that is

of us and it is the m regor as that is understood at a genomic level uh to

understood at a genomic level uh to bring the body into its optimized state

bring the body into its optimized state in anticipation of its normal lifespan

in anticipation of its normal lifespan development

development trajectory and that's also key when it

trajectory and that's also key when it comes to different kinds of trauma than

comes to different kinds of trauma than this young lady experienced on the

this young lady experienced on the captain ground for example War trauma

captain ground for example War trauma trauma in law enforcement offices and

trauma in law enforcement offices and examples like that in those cases we we

examples like that in those cases we we may be seeing usually are seeing

may be seeing usually are seeing something different and uh the solution

something different and uh the solution to that is also

to that is also Laten um but we have gone through it

Laten um but we have gone through it we've passed through the preparation for

we've passed through the preparation for those traumas usually when we were a

those traumas usually when we were a child now this does not mean going back

child now this does not mean going back to being a child again it means drawing

to being a child again it means drawing on the resources which were more

on the resources which were more manifest then than they are now when we

manifest then than they are now when we when we become adults our capacity to

when we become adults our capacity to anticipate and prepare for those kinds

anticipate and prepare for those kinds of traumas through play ritualized play

of traumas through play ritualized play uh with our peers and acted out in a way

uh with our peers and acted out in a way that prepares us we lose that because

that prepares us we lose that because our life has been it's become too real

our life has been it's become too real in a manifest sense so we've lost

in a manifest sense so we've lost contact with the ability to self-repair

contact with the ability to self-repair so when we go back to Childhood then

so when we go back to Childhood then it's not to become a child but to go

it's not to become a child but to go back to those resources which were ready

back to those resources which were ready to be deployed and then we re-experience

to be deployed and then we re-experience them and

them and redeploy our lifespan development

redeploy our lifespan development trajectory past the trauma and therefore

trajectory past the trauma and therefore past the repetition

past the repetition compulsion uh but we don't do that by

compulsion uh but we don't do that by saying for example if it's uh somebody

saying for example if it's uh somebody who's gone through a war trauma and

who's gone through a war trauma and they're a male for example uh and they

they're a male for example uh and they were involved in uh something terrible

were involved in uh something terrible that they survived uh but perhaps their

that they survived uh but perhaps their friends and colleagues did not rather

friends and colleagues did not rather than um say you have to go through that

than um say you have to go through that childhood process of playing war game

childhood process of playing war game again and and the symbolic rituals

again and and the symbolic rituals around that you have to go back to the

around that you have to go back to the time before that was necessary for you

time before that was necessary for you in order to pick up an anticipation of

in order to pick up an anticipation of beyond that for a later PA of adaptation

beyond that for a later PA of adaptation a wider Spectrum adaptation of life we

a wider Spectrum adaptation of life we access that and then we step over the

access that and then we step over the trauma we move on to the next phase of

trauma we move on to the next phase of life with no inertia remaining from the

life with no inertia remaining from the trauma but it's important to understand

trauma but it's important to understand that things like war games uh on that

that things like war games uh on that naturally played by boys so they do go

naturally played by boys so they do go through ritual sacrifice ritual death

through ritual sacrifice ritual death ritual rebirth um working collectively

ritual rebirth um working collectively with colleagues they feel very emotional

with colleagues they feel very emotional when they play these games and act them

when they play these games and act them out to understand that is a preparation

out to understand that is a preparation for for real world uh and for Conflict

for for real world uh and for Conflict at a tribal level Conflict for

at a tribal level Conflict for establishing mates for establishing

establishing mates for establishing territory it's it's very very ancient

territory it's it's very very ancient and it's highly conserved but it's very

and it's highly conserved but it's very very specific there are other things

very specific there are other things things within us that want and need to

things within us that want and need to unfold across our lifespan development

unfold across our lifespan development trajectory so helping a combat veteran

trajectory so helping a combat veteran understand the role of play as a child

understand the role of play as a child and how they went through it at that

and how they went through it at that time and went through all of those

time and went through all of those symbolic rituals of sacrifice death

symbolic rituals of sacrifice death rebirth and Confirmation by their peer

rebirth and Confirmation by their peer group that's all important but there are

group that's all important but there are other things too which are ready for you

other things too which are ready for you to experience now that will move you

to experience now that will move you beyond that productive phase and rather

beyond that productive phase and rather than approach that rationally we need to

than approach that rationally we need to utilize trans States once a person is in

utilize trans States once a person is in the right kind of Trans State this

the right kind of Trans State this information comes from within it's not

information comes from within it's not cognitive it's not being delivered to

cognitive it's not being delivered to them by a third party they feel it as

them by a third party they feel it as transpersonal as Transcendent and as

transpersonal as Transcendent and as integrating of their

integrating of their personality and of course uh

personality and of course uh hyperventilation over breathing was

hyperventilation over breathing was first observed in a war environment

first observed in a war environment during the American Civil War um daosta

during the American Civil War um daosta syndrome as it's well known and when

syndrome as it's well known and when dcosta um wrote his paper on irritable

dcosta um wrote his paper on irritable heart I think it was in

heart I think it was in 1889 um it was observed that when those

1889 um it was observed that when those soldiers were removed from the front

soldiers were removed from the front line that their symptoms improved so

line that their symptoms improved so when they were taken outside of the

when they were taken outside of the context that was helping to produce them

context that was helping to produce them but of course back in in the day it was

but of course back in in the day it was a functional observation there wasn't

a functional observation there wasn't the understanding that we have now about

the understanding that we have now about uh based disregulation for example uh

uh based disregulation for example uh and the effects on the heart um and you

and the effects on the heart um and you know um the body as a whole because of

know um the body as a whole because of course we know that acidbase

course we know that acidbase disregulation is a whole body State and

disregulation is a whole body State and code it affects every cell of the body

code it affects every cell of the body so we're back to that kind of cascade

so we're back to that kind of cascade effect that you were referring to of

effect that you were referring to of superpositioning that that occurs as a

superpositioning that that occurs as a result of that but we've you know there

result of that but we've you know there there is so so much work that has

there is so so much work that has already gone on uh including all the

already gone on uh including all the work on capnography that we we uh

work on capnography that we we uh mentioned before that has been lost it

mentioned before that has been lost it it it's kind of it's been lost to

it it's kind of it's been lost to clinical practice and it's such a shame

clinical practice and it's such a shame because it's it's a massive part of

because it's it's a massive part of understanding what happens in conversion

understanding what happens in conversion reactions and um you know obviously

reactions and um you know obviously there are people out there but the few

there are people out there but the few and far between aren't there people who

and far between aren't there people who um study this kind of thing and and who

um study this kind of thing and and who implement it clinically uh they are

implement it clinically uh they are relatively rare yeah but um these things

relatively rare yeah but um these things have been no the point is these things

have been no the point is these things have been known about for a very very

have been known about for a very very long

long time yeah I think from the clinical uh

time yeah I think from the clinical uh perspective the separation of hypnosis

perspective the separation of hypnosis from medicine and then the separation of

from medicine and then the separation of hypnosis from Psychotherapy yes

hypnosis from Psychotherapy yes specifically originally psychoanalytic

specifically originally psychoanalytic Psychotherapy was the beginning of the

Psychotherapy was the beginning of the dissociation yes of the healing

dissociation yes of the healing professions true from understanding the

professions true from understanding the wholeness of of human nature as a field

wholeness of of human nature as a field a superposition field phenomen and um

a superposition field phenomen and um one of the reasons for this is that it

one of the reasons for this is that it is possible to acquire enough skill in

is possible to acquire enough skill in hypnosis to cause people harm through

hypnosis to cause people harm through things like stage hypnosis yeah so

things like stage hypnosis yeah so quickly so easily um that people shy

quickly so easily um that people shy away from it and misunderstand what what

away from it and misunderstand what what it can do uh and then once psychologists

it can do uh and then once psychologists got hold of it uh then it became an

got hold of it uh then it became an academic abstraction it was more direct

academic abstraction it was more direct and authoritarian yeah um and they were

and authoritarian yeah um and they were and still are clinically inefficient

and still are clinically inefficient about how they understand it yeah

about how they understand it yeah because of the limitations of the

because of the limitations of the discipline and of the philosophy behind

discipline and of the philosophy behind it yeah so hypnosis on its own is not

it yeah so hypnosis on its own is not enough it needs to be purred with a

enough it needs to be purred with a wider understanding of how the Body

wider understanding of how the Body Works does um and what we call

Works does um and what we call superpositioning as well of information

superpositioning as well of information yeah so people exist simultaneously in

yeah so people exist simultaneously in so many different states but what

so many different states but what regulates the movement of energy and

regulates the movement of energy and information between these states and

information between these states and where we are in relationships to those

where we are in relationships to those States at any one time is a function of

States at any one time is a function of Consciousness and what state that

Consciousness and what state that Consciousness is in at any given time

Consciousness is in at any given time and how it splits it partitions as Jan

and how it splits it partitions as Jan described that and then it becomes

described that and then it becomes autonomous as both shanet and Yung

autonomous as both shanet and Yung described it uh and then you have a

described it uh and then you have a system which is a subfield in and of

system which is a subfield in and of itself which we can call a complex which

itself which we can call a complex which then regulates everything it regulates

then regulates everything it regulates our conscious perceptions our physiology

our conscious perceptions our physiology our psychosocial Behavior our

our psychosocial Behavior our philosophies our beliefs

philosophies our beliefs everything and that's the key is how to

everything and that's the key is how to deal with our capacity to dissociate and

deal with our capacity to dissociate and to form

to form complexes yeah well as I said before

complexes yeah well as I said before we're still we're still talking about

we're still we're still talking about this work aren't we um all these years

this work aren't we um all these years later all these decades later uh I mean

later all these decades later uh I mean these guys clearly were pioneers and I

these guys clearly were pioneers and I just reminded when you reminded me when

just reminded when you reminded me when you were talking about academic

you were talking about academic psychology uh the there are different

psychology uh the there are different kind of academics I think there are

kind of academics I think there are those kinds of academics who are

those kinds of academics who are interested in people and that is their

interested in people and that is their motivation for becoming an academic and

motivation for becoming an academic and there are those academics who are

there are those academics who are interested in people secondarily uh and

interested in people secondarily uh and they really just see the people as being

they really just see the people as being a way of advancing their own careers and

a way of advancing their own careers and a lot of the early pioneers and I would

a lot of the early pioneers and I would obviously include uh people like d Costa

obviously include uh people like d Costa uh some of the early physiologists

uh some of the early physiologists shanet shako uh and the were others as

shanet shako uh and the were others as well as a mesma of course um as being in

well as a mesma of course um as being in that first category of people who were

that first category of people who were motivated by their interest in people in

motivated by their interest in people in The Human Condition and what they could

The Human Condition and what they could see what they could observe that that

see what they could observe that that motivated their academic work as opposed

motivated their academic work as opposed to the other way around and was those

to the other way around and was those those concepts are still useful to us

those concepts are still useful to us now if we get to grips with them uh so

now if we get to grips with them uh so that early work that was laid down I I

that early work that was laid down I I think we have to we have to loop back to

think we have to we have to loop back to it and bring it Forward because it's

it and bring it Forward because it's that fundamental to our understanding of

that fundamental to our understanding of so there's another kind of academic

so there's another kind of academic there is well it absolutely is which is

there is well it absolutely is which is well those that that um would prefer to

well those that that um would prefer to um uh assign their name if you like to

um uh assign their name if you like to the work of others and Advance their own

the work of others and Advance their own care their own careers essentially on

care their own careers essentially on the back of that but they're not

the back of that but they're not motivated by people or if they are it's

motivated by people or if they are it's secondary secondary to the other so it's

secondary secondary to the other so it's an adarian issue then it is very much so

an adarian issue then it is very much so yeah and then in the pejorative is that

yeah and then in the pejorative is that they are literally academic yes as a

they are literally academic yes as a pejorative yes uh rather than being

pejorative yes uh rather than being involved in a healing relationship with

involved in a healing relationship with other people yeah yeah yeah because um I

other people yeah yeah yeah because um I mean certainly mesma and and his work

mean certainly mesma and and his work and uh the the report that was produced

and uh the the report that was produced I think 1784 on his experimental

I think 1784 on his experimental observations um were absolutely

observations um were absolutely foundational and uh Jan comments on them

foundational and uh Jan comments on them and basically says that they can't be

and basically says that they can't be bettered therefore those people who were

bettered therefore those people who were as contempories at the time I mean he's

as contempories at the time I mean he's critical of them really he's saying

critical of them really he's saying don't bother with their work because it

don't bother with their work because it was by the time Mesmer had done his work

was by the time Mesmer had done his work it was already established what the

it was already established what the phenomena were what the obser aable

phenomena were what the obser aable phenomena where uh and so you know we

phenomena where uh and so you know we must he doesn't quite say there were

must he doesn't quite say there were charlatans but what he's saying is you

charlatans but what he's saying is you know those people are who are motivated

know those people are who are motivated to work on behalf of people to

to work on behalf of people to understand people in The Human Condition

understand people in The Human Condition better are the people you should go to

better are the people you should go to to understand yourself yeah and and not

to understand yourself yeah and and not the others because their motivation is

the others because their motivation is different yeah and the outcome is very

different yeah and the outcome is very much shaped isn't it by yes the

much shaped isn't it by yes the character and calling or lack of it yes

character and calling or lack of it yes of anybody you may work with absolutely

of anybody you may work with absolutely music S as a professional yeah thank you

music S as a professional yeah thank you Stephen Pauline if it's okay we could go

Stephen Pauline if it's okay we could go back to some of the things you mentioned

back to some of the things you mentioned earlier about this coming psychosomatic

earlier about this coming psychosomatic storm because there a few things in

storm because there a few things in there I feel are going to be very

there I feel are going to be very important to highlight the first one is

important to highlight the first one is when you spoke on Instinct and the

when you spoke on Instinct and the importance of instinctive pressure in

importance of instinctive pressure in generating these dissociations which can

generating these dissociations which can form complexes and they can transduce

form complexes and they can transduce into the body creating so-called

into the body creating so-called psychosomatic conditions or conversion

psychosomatic conditions or conversion disorders hysteria that kind of thing so

disorders hysteria that kind of thing so going to the case study then in that

going to the case study then in that case study would it be possible to

case study would it be possible to highlight the instinctive elements that

highlight the instinctive elements that were going on for that person so that

were going on for that person so that someone watching this can understand

someone watching this can understand what a priori to those complexes forming

what a priori to those complexes forming was taking place or attempting to come

was taking place or attempting to come through yeah if we take um a

through yeah if we take um a conventional Freudian neuros

conventional Freudian neuros psychoanalytic approach then um the

psychoanalytic approach then um the young lady had issues with her

young lady had issues with her parents That's a classic Freudian

parents That's a classic Freudian scenario and and that had been

scenario and and that had been maintained right through her life up to

maintained right through her life up to that point she was aged 27 when uh that

that point she was aged 27 when uh that cogr was taken in

cogr was taken in 1991 then there was rape and then there

1991 then there was rape and then there was abortion the rape was not within the

was abortion the rape was not within the family it was it was an outsider it was

family it was it was an outsider it was a relationship outside which uh was one

a relationship outside which uh was one of rape not of a consensual relationship

of rape not of a consensual relationship or interaction produced to pregnancy and

or interaction produced to pregnancy and then there was an

then there was an abortion so we can see immediately then

abortion so we can see immediately then that the the panpan elements would be

that the the panpan elements would be very very strongly represented there but

very very strongly represented there but also what we would regard as Messer

also what we would regard as Messer instincts and the contexts the context

instincts and the contexts the context for the family uh there's all sorts of

for the family uh there's all sorts of ways a family can work well enough um

ways a family can work well enough um but there are also very very many ways

but there are also very very many ways that they can work badly and cause

that they can work badly and cause problems at an instinctive level and

problems at an instinctive level and that includes how a person's identity

that includes how a person's identity and I mean that in an ego sense not in

and I mean that in an ego sense not in any other sense at all but how their

any other sense at all but how their identity forms how their ego forms

identity forms how their ego forms basically um that can be very much

basically um that can be very much influenced by early familial

influenced by early familial relationships that's why over the past

relationships that's why over the past 120 plus years the psychoanalysts have

120 plus years the psychoanalysts have been focusing on that so much um which I

been focusing on that so much um which I think speaks for

think speaks for itself then when it comes to mating and

itself then when it comes to mating and relating and how that might be inter

relating and how that might be inter considered a pangian level then to be

considered a pangian level then to be raped and then for a pregnancy to uh

raped and then for a pregnancy to uh follow from that and then an abortion to

follow from that and then an abortion to follow on from that and still the

follow on from that and still the relationship to the parents is not what

relationship to the parents is not what it should be then that person was

it should be then that person was compromised at so many levels that met

compromised at so many levels that met instinctively so the context was present

instinctively so the context was present for panp of fire but those elements of

for panp of fire but those elements of panp that were firing from affective

panp that were firing from affective neuroscience and neuros pycho Analysis

neuroscience and neuros pycho Analysis were negatives there was Panic there was

were negatives there was Panic there was uh grief

uh grief simultaneously um there was issues of

simultaneously um there was issues of Cur and the negative side of curve

Cur and the negative side of curve because of the abortion and who cared

because of the abortion and who cared for her she was abused the pangian play

for her she was abused the pangian play System we would probably interpret

System we would probably interpret through Anthony Stevens more about

through Anthony Stevens more about dominance in this regard she was

dominance in this regard she was dominated and controlled abused and

dominated and controlled abused and raped and then made the decision to not

raped and then made the decision to not have the

have the child so you have instincts that at a

child so you have instincts that at a fundamental panpan Drive state level at

fundamental panpan Drive state level at work you have met instincts which can't

work you have met instincts which can't make sense of those panacan rise and

make sense of those panacan rise and therefore are presence but not fully

therefore are presence but not fully actualized but are under instinctive

actualized but are under instinctive pressure and then you have the uh the

pressure and then you have the uh the frustration of the meta instincts under

frustration of the meta instincts under panpan Drive pressure which becomes the

panpan Drive pressure which becomes the psychosomatic storm and then uh

psychosomatic storm and then uh presented in her life as a drop down

presented in her life as a drop down menu of psychosomatic

menu of psychosomatic representations um and she was resistant

representations um and she was resistant to medications of all kinds psychiatric

to medications of all kinds psychiatric support psychiatric medication uh

support psychiatric medication uh counseling uh clinical psych all of it

counseling uh clinical psych all of it none of it had worked in girls in s

none of it had worked in girls in s State our approach was that this girl

State our approach was that this girl has been severely dissociated through

has been severely dissociated through trauma no amount of um tackling

trauma no amount of um tackling repetition compulsion for these these

repetition compulsion for these these repeat nightmare experiences that none

repeat nightmare experiences that none of that has done anything or is likely

of that has done anything or is likely to do anything she needed to be put into

to do anything she needed to be put into a state of dissociation under which she

a state of dissociation under which she was in perfect control and felt good

was in perfect control and felt good about herself but not away from the

about herself but not away from the representation of the trauma um and the

representation of the trauma um and the representation of trauma came through

representation of trauma came through the Charing Cross Think test as it was

the Charing Cross Think test as it was called in this

called in this instance um and then because we had on

instance um and then because we had on the cograph we could see just how

the cograph we could see just how dangerous uh her state was and we were

dangerous uh her state was and we were able to use the alter State of

able to use the alter State of Consciousness and then in that state

Consciousness and then in that state build a therapeutic relationship a state

build a therapeutic relationship a state that could be reaccessed outside of

that could be reaccessed outside of hypnosis this is key as well that you

hypnosis this is key as well that you continue on uh whilst you bring that

continue on uh whilst you bring that person into a better state of

person into a better state of orientation to

orientation to themselves so pretty much that's it you

themselves so pretty much that's it you you've got uh meta instincts which are

you've got uh meta instincts which are important because they are scenarios

important because they are scenarios that are anticipated at a genomic level

that are anticipated at a genomic level you have the failure of the Met Instinct

you have the failure of the Met Instinct in the sense that it is only being

in the sense that it is only being represented

represented negatively and you have pangian drives

negatively and you have pangian drives powering through and also not fitting

powering through and also not fitting properly because her own lust system

properly because her own lust system didn't work obviously her Cur system

didn't work obviously her Cur system didn't work um her play system as they

didn't work um her play system as they understand it in affective neuroscience

understand it in affective neuroscience and neuros pycho Analysis was reversed

and neuros pycho Analysis was reversed because she was dominated and controll

because she was dominated and controll and she had no support from her family

and she had no support from her family they were judging no matter what she did

they were judging no matter what she did and you can add on pretty much all of

and you can add on pretty much all of the seven basic emotional systems there

the seven basic emotional systems there and they were all in negative overdrive

and they were all in negative overdrive stat so she had to be taken away from

stat so she had to be taken away from that out of the drive

that out of the drive state which is what we did and you can

state which is what we did and you can see on the cogr how rapid that was

see on the cogr how rapid that was matter of seconds pretty much and and uh

matter of seconds pretty much and and uh she was not in that state any longer

she was not in that state any longer once that was there we need to

once that was there we need to consolidate this new state which is how

consolidate this new state which is how you build EO strength you build strength

you build EO strength you build strength through experience not through thinking

through experience not through thinking differently not through a virtual model

differently not through a virtual model somebody needs to feel better and as

somebody needs to feel better and as we've always said you ask most people

we've always said you ask most people who are suffering would you rather think

who are suffering would you rather think better or feel better the answer is

better or feel better the answer is overwhelming like I want of feel

overwhelming like I want of feel better and when people do feel better

better and when people do feel better then their thoughts look after

then their thoughts look after themselves because homeostasis

themselves because homeostasis rearranges the kinds of thoughts which

rearranges the kinds of thoughts which constellate when a person uh feels that

constellate when a person uh feels that they cannot control their own

they cannot control their own environment and their own life before to

environment and their own life before to go into a cognitive Loop that cognitive

go into a cognitive Loop that cognitive Loop is a repetition compulsion and it

Loop is a repetition compulsion and it can't solve the problem but it just goes

can't solve the problem but it just goes on because people feel or they think

on because people feel or they think they are told that you have to think

they are told that you have to think your way out of this you have to think

your way out of this you have to think differently now they have to be allowed

differently now they have to be allowed to enter a state within which they feel

to enter a state within which they feel differently once they feel differently

differently once they feel differently homeostasis then is getting the hint

homeostasis then is getting the hint that this is the desired State this this

that this is the desired State this this is where we should be and the fors will

is where we should be and the fors will look after

look after themselves very very different

themselves very very different approach I think another important

approach I think another important element in in that case uh specifically

element in in that case uh specifically Steve too was that the decision to have

Steve too was that the decision to have the abortion would not have been taken

the abortion would not have been taken at a cognitive level alone in fact a lot

at a cognitive level alone in fact a lot of instinctive decisions literally

of instinctive decisions literally happen at that level and then cognition

happen at that level and then cognition is literally like an afterthought we

is literally like an afterthought we believe that we are personally making

believe that we are personally making decision to do something and I think

decision to do something and I think particularly in that situation because

particularly in that situation because it was a rape and um you know an

it was a rape and um you know an incredibly traumatic experience for her

incredibly traumatic experience for her that was an important part of allowing

that was an important part of allowing her to move on because it's it's a kind

her to move on because it's it's a kind of thing I think particularly clinically

of thing I think particularly clinically you've got to be very careful about

you've got to be very careful about taking any kind of um moral position

taking any kind of um moral position towards with respect to the individual

towards with respect to the individual that you're working with and it's like

that you're working with and it's like that with a lot of instinctive things

that with a lot of instinctive things you know it's a that there can be a lot

you know it's a that there can be a lot of um rumination after the fact

of um rumination after the fact cognitively about why something happened

cognitively about why something happened but when it comes to instincts sometimes

but when it comes to instincts sometimes the decision is made for us and simply

the decision is made for us and simply just understanding that yeah can be

just understanding that yeah can be helpful that's hugely important thank

helpful that's hugely important thank you for saying that because when people

you for saying that because when people feel guilt and shame yeah although we

feel guilt and shame yeah although we can say that both of those are almost

can say that both of those are almost kinds of conserved a fect ancient

kinds of conserved a fect ancient responses and so therefore instinctive

responses and so therefore instinctive at one level our

at one level our interpretation unconsciously generates

interpretation unconsciously generates something into guilt and shame yeah and

something into guilt and shame yeah and that interpretation is not

that interpretation is not cognitive as you say but it's still

cognitive as you say but it's still emerges and very often when people um

emerges and very often when people um suffer from guilt and shame they add a

suffer from guilt and shame they add a cognitive interpretation of something

cognitive interpretation of something which has already been Mis inures at an

which has already been Mis inures at an emotional level to that squaring the

emotional level to that squaring the error and they feel there's no out there

error and they feel there's no out there is a way out we have to get to the

is a way out we have to get to the source and I I don't mean by regressing

source and I I don't mean by regressing back in time but going into the genome

back in time but going into the genome and the Met instinctive understanding of

and the Met instinctive understanding of the situation of why it will present

the situation of why it will present something in that way and here's one way

something in that way and here's one way that happens how how it

that happens how how it starts when there are a number of

starts when there are a number of conflicting interests with respect to

conflicting interests with respect to the organism's understanding of itself

the organism's understanding of itself as an instinctive and genomic level when

as an instinctive and genomic level when there is conflict at an instinct level

there is conflict at an instinct level there will be a default shift towards an

there will be a default shift towards an optimal Baseline state that will support

optimal Baseline state that will support survival that is like a Swit is thrown

survival that is like a Swit is thrown and then the behavior is released the

and then the behavior is released the person does something and then they feel

person does something and then they feel guilt and shame the guilt and shame is

guilt and shame the guilt and shame is Downstream and that's a response uh when

Downstream and that's a response uh when the cognition is not caught up with an

the cognition is not caught up with an understanding of why the decision was

understanding of why the decision was taken in the case of an abortion for

taken in the case of an abortion for rape as you rightly say that's very

rape as you rightly say that's very often not cognitive cognition is an

often not cognitive cognition is an illusion it's added on and in between

illusion it's added on and in between that the guilt and the shame operat as

that the guilt and the shame operat as affective responses because cognition

affective responses because cognition has made one adjustment but it has not

has made one adjustment but it has not made a fully enough adjustments because

made a fully enough adjustments because when cognition works on its own in a

when cognition works on its own in a vacuum that is occupied only by itself

vacuum that is occupied only by itself it can't feel anything except as an

it can't feel anything except as an abstraction which is a separation a

abstraction which is a separation a separation is a dissociation a

separation is a dissociation a dissociation is a

dissociation is a Neurosis but when a person can

Neurosis but when a person can communicate in the right way directly

communicate in the right way directly with the representation of the genome's

with the representation of the genome's understanding of itself then there is no

understanding of itself then there is no dissociation the Gap closes and we have

dissociation the Gap closes and we have a superpositioned understanding when

a superpositioned understanding when nothing is repressed but everything has

nothing is repressed but everything has its place that is rational at a deep

its place that is rational at a deep biological level which should then make

biological level which should then make sense

sense psychologically so in in terms of

psychologically so in in terms of describing it that's what you do you

describing it that's what you do you make that kind of understanding

make that kind of understanding available to someone and the way that

available to someone and the way that you do it is not through CBT it's by

you do it is not through CBT it's by utilizing natural transstates so they

utilizing natural transstates so they can access the the force that comes from

can access the the force that comes from within that is interested in resolving

within that is interested in resolving everything so every Instinct has its

everything so every Instinct has its place every response has its place and

place every response has its place and meaning at those individual levels

meaning at those individual levels becomes a whole field of meaning which

becomes a whole field of meaning which is a summation of that in a positive way

is a summation of that in a positive way but when the eggo goes all cognitive

but when the eggo goes all cognitive about the these kinds of experiences

about the these kinds of experiences then it starts to invent self judgment

then it starts to invent self judgment on the inside and then it interprets the

on the inside and then it interprets the culture as judging it externally

culture as judging it externally extrinsically and it may do but

extrinsically and it may do but sometimes it doesn't sometimes this is a

sometimes it doesn't sometimes this is a fantasy an EG fantasy or EG fiction so

fantasy an EG fantasy or EG fiction so we need to get in touch with the genome

we need to get in touch with the genome and the Emissary of the genome which are

and the Emissary of the genome which are the instincts both meta Instinct and

the instincts both meta Instinct and panpan as they occur at each

panpan as they occur at each level and and this lady went on as I

level and and this lady went on as I understand it to have um a very happy

understand it to have um a very happy and fulfilled relationship with someone

and fulfilled relationship with someone and and to have more children and um so

and and to have more children and um so in that sense uh her her met instincts

in that sense uh her her met instincts to be become a mother were repaired and

to be become a mother were repaired and and to have a happy and meaningful

and to have a happy and meaningful relationship yes she's a very successful

relationship yes she's a very successful professional artist uh living very

professional artist uh living very comfortably in terms of what she's

comfortably in terms of what she's earned in her life she's married and she

earned in her life she's married and she has three

has three children um and she's achieved that

children um and she's achieved that herself because she did the

herself because she did the self-correction that was necessary she

self-correction that was necessary she was provided with the means to do it but

was provided with the means to do it but she put the work in she achieved it it

she put the work in she achieved it it came out from her and that then

came out from her and that then literally seeded the rest of her life

literally seeded the rest of her life thus far over the past 34 years um so

thus far over the past 34 years um so that's a success story because it shows

that's a success story because it shows how a person can with the right help at

how a person can with the right help at the right time make the necessary

the right time make the necessary adjustments to themselves so that they

adjustments to themselves so that they access the whole band width of the

access the whole band width of the intended trajectory for their lifespan

intended trajectory for their lifespan development potential and not ruminate

development potential and not ruminate and go into a cognitive Loop and um

and go into a cognitive Loop and um generate and then ruminate over guilt

generate and then ruminate over guilt and shame as an intermediary stage uh

and shame as an intermediary stage uh between uh an ego that doesn't

between uh an ego that doesn't understand anything other than itself

understand anything other than itself and instincts which are trying to push

and instincts which are trying to push forward an understanding of the complete

forward an understanding of the complete situation these things are super

situation these things are super important when it comes to helping other

important when it comes to helping other people and if anyone's gone through

people and if anyone's gone through anything like it themselves too if they

anything like it themselves too if they can adopt that as a general model of

can adopt that as a general model of understanding they can take the first

understanding they can take the first steps towards correcting for how they've

steps towards correcting for how they've been HS and how they've been

been HS and how they've been abused by auers I'm very interested

abused by auers I'm very interested further in the psycho dynamics of what

further in the psycho dynamics of what went on in that case because as you say

went on in that case because as you say it's so

it's so multi-layered so my understanding at the

multi-layered so my understanding at the moment is fundamentally there are these

moment is fundamentally there are these pepian drives the so-called seven basic

pepian drives the so-called seven basic emotional systems now as you guys model

emotional systems now as you guys model that in psychos systems analysis is not

that in psychos systems analysis is not synonymous with how the affective

synonymous with how the affective neuroscientists and neuropsycho analysts

neuroscientists and neuropsycho analysts use those terms but we use those for for

use those terms but we use those for for a moment those are drives that are

a moment those are drives that are always going to be pushing within a

always going to be pushing within a person you know they say that seeking is

person you know they say that seeking is always on but the other six are going to

always on but the other six are going to be variably moving in a waveform pattern

be variably moving in a waveform pattern so these will push forward in anybody

so these will push forward in anybody but the experiences that people can have

but the experiences that people can have such as that atrocious scenario that you

such as that atrocious scenario that you described there in that case study that

described there in that case study that in order for the the the ego to be

in order for the the the ego to be protected and not be shattered by that a

protected and not be shattered by that a complex forms a genean complex forms

complex forms a genean complex forms that's bioc psycho and social so

that's bioc psycho and social so presumably you know there aspects of it

presumably you know there aspects of it was biological and psychological that

was biological and psychological that people may have been focusing on before

people may have been focusing on before when you say that she was medication

when you say that she was medication resistant and stuff like that um but the

resistant and stuff like that um but the effects are going to be super positioned

effects are going to be super positioned all the way up and down the

all the way up and down the biopsychosocial stack and it's that

biopsychosocial stack and it's that complex then that essentially interferes

complex then that essentially interferes with those sepian drives pushing forward

with those sepian drives pushing forward and has its own understanding formed in

and has its own understanding formed in a genean sense in the moment and which

a genean sense in the moment and which basically just scatters them all over

basically just scatters them all over the place and in a state like that meta

the place and in a state like that meta instincts cannot come online now if if

instincts cannot come online now if if that's a correct understanding on that

that's a correct understanding on that I'm very interested in what is within so

I'm very interested in what is within so to is without a saying that you guys use

to is without a saying that you guys use a lot now some people will have support

a lot now some people will have support let's say from whoever it is their

let's say from whoever it is their parents for example other people like

parents for example other people like this case study

this case study they don't some people will have say a

they don't some people will have say a relationship other people will not so

relationship other people will not so the the psychosocial factors are going

the the psychosocial factors are going to be different how necessary or

to be different how necessary or important is it that there is something

important is it that there is something there in the psychosocial environment to

there in the psychosocial environment to help homeostasis and imp particular meta

help homeostasis and imp particular meta Instinct come online because it sounded

Instinct come online because it sounded like from the case study and obviously I

like from the case study and obviously I don't know all of those details but it

don't know all of those details but it really did sound like she was in such

really did sound like she was in such Dire Straits that that healing that came

Dire Straits that that healing that came from within and and you guys helped with

from within and and you guys helped with that but the healing Came From Within

that but the healing Came From Within and it wasn't really supported by

and it wasn't really supported by anybody else in the outside world I find

anybody else in the outside world I find that fascinating for a sense of internal

that fascinating for a sense of internal healing to get somebody ready for then

healing to get somebody ready for then Pang and meta instinct to release itself

Pang and meta instinct to release itself into a new adaptation that doesn't

into a new adaptation that doesn't actually exist at all if you follow what

actually exist at all if you follow what I mean with that the importance of inner

I mean with that the importance of inner and outer yes that's very very important

and outer yes that's very very important and it highlights the context

and it highlights the context specificity of this particular case

specificity of this particular case and that's important because we need to

and that's important because we need to move Beyond only that but what we have

move Beyond only that but what we have there as you rightly say is a breakdown

there as you rightly say is a breakdown of Psychosocial support or the very best

of Psychosocial support or the very best of failure of it um she was referred to

of failure of it um she was referred to me within the medical practice that I

me within the medical practice that I worked at by her GP as a last

worked at by her GP as a last result uh so I was kind of

result uh so I was kind of uh anticipated by her as another failure

uh anticipated by her as another failure or as someone who would act as the

or as someone who would act as the Figure Head of the healing that would

Figure Head of the healing that would come from within herself she wouldn't

come from within herself she wouldn't know that probably consciously but the

know that probably consciously but the anticipation would be this is All or

anticipation would be this is All or Nothing what can I do I'm completely

Nothing what can I do I'm completely desperate everything's awful

desperate everything's awful everything's

everything's Dreadful so what I can say is that um I

Dreadful so what I can say is that um I picked that up without knowing it uh the

picked that up without knowing it uh the moment she walked in the

moment she walked in the door made eye contact with it and I kind

door made eye contact with it and I kind of received something which was a field

of received something which was a field impression of that person's whole

impression of that person's whole situation in a fraction of a

situation in a fraction of a second and I must have returned

second and I must have returned something because she counil return I I

something because she counil return I I I I detected the council return as well

I I detected the council return as well now what I did know and do know and

now what I did know and do know and certainly knew at the time is that this

certainly knew at the time is that this is the

is the opportunity um that I've been given but

opportunity um that I've been given but the responsibility that I've been given

the responsibility that I've been given as well because that could go a number

as well because that could go a number of ways it could have just collapsed

of ways it could have just collapsed into

into uh your typical psychoanalytic

uh your typical psychoanalytic transference which would mean then that

transference which would mean then that you would become dependent upon me for a

you would become dependent upon me for a longterm form of psychoanalytic

longterm form of psychoanalytic psychodynamic Psychotherapy which would

psychodynamic Psychotherapy which would be

be pointless it would be utterly

pointless it would be utterly pointless although she did have classic

pointless although she did have classic Freudian symptons and by that I don't

Freudian symptons and by that I don't mean in the way that most people might

mean in the way that most people might be familiar with it but she had the

be familiar with it but she had the samat form

samat form uh representation of their traumas

uh representation of their traumas remember Freud and Brer in studies on

remember Freud and Brer in studies on hysteria put together cases and their

hysteria put together cases and their experiences at that time of this kind of

experiences at that time of this kind of thing how things like sexual abuse and

thing how things like sexual abuse and rape and childhood experiences became

rape and childhood experiences became somatized so that was immediately a

somatized so that was immediately a parent but they didn't have a capnograph

parent but they didn't have a capnograph they couldn't do that that wasn't their

they couldn't do that that wasn't their fault the technology didn't exist and

fault the technology didn't exist and the science behind the technology did

the science behind the technology did not exist assist I had the machine there

not exist assist I had the machine there and I thought we got to go on this

and I thought we got to go on this pretty much immediately I did have a

pretty much immediately I did have a case history because I've been given to

case history because I've been given to me by the doctor and I've read the notes

me by the doctor and I've read the notes before she came in but before the person

before she came in but before the person comes in the notes are abstract when the

comes in the notes are abstract when the person comes in the notes and the person

person comes in the notes and the person conjoined together they either fit

conjoined together they either fit perfectly or there's a mismatch usually

perfectly or there's a mismatch usually there's a mismatch because the totality

there's a mismatch because the totality of a person is more than any note that

of a person is more than any note that can be made about them in a medical

can be made about them in a medical sense so I had that as preparation but

sense so I had that as preparation but that it immediate eye contact and how

that it immediate eye contact and how she responded to me uh as a human being

she responded to me uh as a human being with a field around me which I was

with a field around me which I was obviously giving off part of the the

obviously giving off part of the the role that I was in that was the as I say

role that I was in that was the as I say uh the responsibility that I felt in

uh the responsibility that I felt in that immediate moment we have to get

that immediate moment we have to get I've got to do that I have to do it it

I've got to do that I have to do it it is my duty to do this do you think do

is my duty to do this do you think do you think my ability do you think she

you think my ability do you think she intuitively felt you understood her oh

intuitively felt you understood her oh definitely I could absolutely tell

definitely I could absolutely tell because the moment she she came through

because the moment she she came through the door exchanged that that glass

the door exchanged that that glass unusual Pleasant Tre she walked across

unusual Pleasant Tre she walked across the room and sat down and she looked at

the room and sat down and she looked at me again over a sh I thought I have to

me again over a sh I thought I have to do I've got to do what is necessary to

do I've got to do what is necessary to this person and everyone you meet is

this person and everyone you meet is different you know and obviously had

different you know and obviously had that experience with many people um but

that experience with many people um but specifically about this it was very very

specifically about this it was very very marked and um we we got on with it

marked and um we we got on with it immediately uh but the extent of the

immediately uh but the extent of the collapse of CO2 and acidbase regulation

collapse of CO2 and acidbase regulation was so dramatic and the alarm was going

was so dramatic and the alarm was going off on the machine and uh now we are

off on the machine and uh now we are going to have to do it we're going to

going to have to do it we're going to have to get into the the way her system

have to get into the the way her system is regulating itself we have to separate

is regulating itself we have to separate her from her physiology so her

her from her physiology so her physiology can't feed off her ego cannot

physiology can't feed off her ego cannot feed off her complexes we separate them

feed off her complexes we separate them there's no connection when there is no

there's no connection when there is no connection there is no communication the

connection there is no communication the field of the complex has been disrupted

field of the complex has been disrupted when you do that so that's what we did

when you do that so that's what we did you or I did I guess in that moment and

you or I did I guess in that moment and that resulted in the immediate effect

that resulted in the immediate effect that you can see on the

that you can see on the graph um and I said and that maintained

graph um and I said and that maintained itself once it had maintained itself

itself once it had maintained itself enough I thought there's no need to keep

enough I thought there's no need to keep this going beyond the point where she

this going beyond the point where she herself can see

herself can see it she can see it and her state is

it she can see it and her state is different that now is purred to her

different that now is purred to her relationship therapeu that eate that's

relationship therapeu that eate that's what I need once I've got that I can

what I need once I've got that I can read constitute that outside of that

read constitute that outside of that State uh and bring the healing processes

State uh and bring the healing processes on side and she was recap the graphed

on side and she was recap the graphed and she was at the end of the process

and she was at the end of the process and she was absolutely fine and all the

and she was absolutely fine and all the symptoms had gone um and she had an

symptoms had gone um and she had an integrated EO at that point too so in in

integrated EO at that point too so in in that sense it was uh a really clear case

that sense it was uh a really clear case study and I'm very grateful for having

study and I'm very grateful for having had that experience because it was so

had that experience because it was so dramatic not all Captain ground was are

dramatic not all Captain ground was are that dramatic know but they they will

that dramatic know but they they will show various things they will show

show various things they will show complexes active they'll show the

complexes active they'll show the defense mechanisms kicking in but we've

defense mechanisms kicking in but we've heard there were no defense mechanisms

heard there were no defense mechanisms pretty much it was gone their capacity

pretty much it was gone their capacity to to regulate had gone that this was SW

to to regulate had gone that this was SW in a dire stage of their

in a dire stage of their life so there's a coherence between the

life so there's a coherence between the transform transformation that she

transform transformation that she experienced and and what she could see

experienced and and what she could see visibly yes in front of her eyes on the

visibly yes in front of her eyes on the C the ground and and a form of biof

C the ground and and a form of biof feedback really which is um very

feedback really which is um very reinforcing isn't it positively yeah

reinforcing isn't it positively yeah yeah you can see the waveform on the C

yeah you can see the waveform on the C gra the actual C ground itself yeah plus

gra the actual C ground itself yeah plus the values the respiration rate and the

the values the respiration rate and the CO2 values completely different yeah

CO2 values completely different yeah nice level respiratory curve not this

nice level respiratory curve not this you know nice up and level yeah um so

you know nice up and level yeah um so she saw an immediate change and felt an

she saw an immediate change and felt an immediate change

immediate change at that point then any transference that

at that point then any transference that would have gone off into a psychodynamic

would have gone off into a psychodynamic W and been pointless had been converted

W and been pointless had been converted into something that would be

into something that would be effective uh and that's one of the main

effective uh and that's one of the main differences with uh traditional

differences with uh traditional psychoanalysis and what we did and even

psychoanalysis and what we did and even uh conventional Mainframe neuros

uh conventional Mainframe neuros psychoanalysis are yungan neuros

psychoanalysis are yungan neuros psycharis and corporate Shan and Yung

psycharis and corporate Shan and Yung and many many other things as well and

and many many other things as well and uh it's that intimacy of Mind Body

uh it's that intimacy of Mind Body Connection that can be measured and fed

Connection that can be measured and fed back uh and utilized and understood as

back uh and utilized and understood as well as all of the psych damic forms of

well as all of the psych damic forms of treatment that that you would you would

treatment that that you would you would add on to that that make it as effective

add on to that that make it as effective as it is absolutely I mean the cogram

as it is absolutely I mean the cogram speaks for itself that that bid at the

speaks for itself that that bid at the end

end where it's the best CO2 value of that

where it's the best CO2 value of that entire session by far and it's stable

entire session by far and it's stable and it didn't take that long it was a

and it didn't take that long it was a couple minutes from memory to

couple minutes from memory to one or two minutes but to get into that

one or two minutes but to get into that state and that suggests to me that

state and that suggests to me that despite everything that she'd been

despite everything that she'd been through and was currently going through

through and was currently going through homeostasis was right there and ready to

homeostasis was right there and ready to go and I'm reminded I think we discussed

go and I'm reminded I think we discussed this in our most recent video resolve

this in our most recent video resolve your anxiety that we put out um when we

your anxiety that we put out um when we discussed transference in there and

discussed transference in there and because the point on transference I find

because the point on transference I find really interesting with this as part of

really interesting with this as part of that um the the the psychosocial

that um the the the psychosocial variables that that someone will have or

variables that that someone will have or someone has the potential to have that

someone has the potential to have that transference is is not good transference

transference is is not good transference will um it always looks to confirm

will um it always looks to confirm itself it's not an attempt to try and

itself it's not an attempt to try and heal

heal oneself but the intuition behind it

oneself but the intuition behind it pushing it Forward is that is looking

pushing it Forward is that is looking for the actualization of the person so

for the actualization of the person so if I'm modeling what you said correctly

if I'm modeling what you said correctly Steve it's as if there was an intuition

Steve it's as if there was an intuition within her field there was a potential

within her field there was a potential for for that to come out as transference

for for that to come out as transference but you you handled it so well that the

but you you handled it so well that the transference didn't have to come out at

transference didn't have to come out at all and the intuition could come

all and the intuition could come straight out work with you and bounce

straight out work with you and bounce back basically and it's as if that was

back basically and it's as if that was very very important that that was needed

very very important that that was needed in a sense that because of the

in a sense that because of the psychosocial uh aspects that she was

psychosocial uh aspects that she was going through and had gone through she

going through and had gone through she needed somebody

needed somebody else on the outside for homeostasis to

else on the outside for homeostasis to confirm itself off of yes for modeling

confirm itself off of yes for modeling that that right yes you are absolutely

that that right yes you are absolutely how important was it if at all perhaps

how important was it if at all perhaps not that you were a man rather than a

not that you were a man rather than a woman being in that role well uh what I

woman being in that role well uh what I can disclose is that uh the name of the

can disclose is that uh the name of the rapist was the same as my first name and

rapist was the same as my first name and she knew my first name which was uh

she knew my first name which was uh potentially a confounding factor and a

potentially a confounding factor and a more traditional psychoanalytic

more traditional psychoanalytic perspective would have played all over

perspective would have played all over that and drawn out the negative aspects

that and drawn out the negative aspects of her relationship to a rapist was I

of her relationship to a rapist was I was not at all concerned with that not

was not at all concerned with that not at all concerned with knowing anything

at all concerned with knowing anything about this person the fact that she was

about this person the fact that she was raped and there was a consequence to

raped and there was a consequence to that was the most important thing how do

that was the most important thing how do we remove the consequence not we go back

we remove the consequence not we go back because that would generate all sorts of

because that would generate all sorts of things and a whole line of regressive

things and a whole line of regressive attachments to past relationships

attachments to past relationships including a parents so knowing a parents

including a parents so knowing a parents were also a problem to her what would be

were also a problem to her what would be the point of making me a problem to her

the point of making me a problem to her as the recipients of what was

as the recipients of what was transferred off from them so my my view

transferred off from them so my my view was is we have to help this person we

was is we have to help this person we have to get them right and part of that

have to get them right and part of that mindset I carried forward from my police

mindset I carried forward from my police work because I was always interested in

work because I was always interested in relating to people and I always LED with

relating to people and I always LED with that when I was in the

that when I was in the police rather than policing them I was

police rather than policing them I was there to support them and do the right

there to support them and do the right thing it's almost as I was trying to be

thing it's almost as I was trying to be a homeostatic agent within a law

a homeostatic agent within a law enforcement context and I did that many

enforcement context and I did that many many times and solved a lot of problems

many times and solved a lot of problems for a lot of people in a lot of ways by

for a lot of people in a lot of ways by moving with and through the field of the

moving with and through the field of the the area very rundown and the area that

the area very rundown and the area that I was working on my own in in such a way

I was working on my own in in such a way that it brought changes about and I

that it brought changes about and I learned a lot from that uh and I felt it

learned a lot from that uh and I felt it very much then with this particular case

very much then with this particular case that it it shouldn't be about that

that it it shouldn't be about that because in the police in those days you

because in the police in those days you got awful lot of transference you wore a

got awful lot of transference you wore a uniform then a pig that was the initial

uniform then a pig that was the initial response you received immediate

response you received immediate transference so you could either try and

transference so you could either try and defend yourself against that and

defend yourself against that and therefore uh defend other people you

therefore uh defend other people you don't know or you present as you are in

don't know or you present as you are in the moment and be solution

the moment and be solution focused uh and that was how how I felt

focused uh and that was how how I felt at that time go help this person it's

at that time go help this person it's such a strong I have to

such a strong I have to help rather than go through this boring

help rather than go through this boring tedious years and years which it is and

tedious years and years which it is and on the normal conditions psycho

on the normal conditions psycho analytically transference this person

analytically transference this person wants to be well what the heck you know

wants to be well what the heck you know so a positive transference can be

so a positive transference can be utilized that was positive because she

utilized that was positive because she gave me the capacity to help her for as

gave me the capacity to help her for as long as she needed the help and then

long as she needed the help and then there was no need for it um negative

there was no need for it um negative transference is are different though

transference is are different though because they they are interested only on

because they they are interested only on S or in sustaining themselves positive

S or in sustaining themselves positive transfer you can have the same problem

transfer you can have the same problem with but you move a person towards a

with but you move a person towards a solution then they move past the

solution then they move past the transference when it's positive when

transference when it's positive when it's negative though it's worse because

it's negative though it's worse because they want to just simply sit in that and

they want to just simply sit in that and blame you for everything that's ever

blame you for everything that's ever gone wrong with with them with their

gone wrong with with them with their life and even with their own

life and even with their own understanding of themselves you become

understanding of themselves you become the object of that it's all transferred

the object of that it's all transferred onto you that is sickness that is a

onto you that is sickness that is a neurotic sickness but I didn't read that

neurotic sickness but I didn't read that in her

in her eyes didn't read that I read someone who

eyes didn't read that I read someone who who was desperate

who was desperate help uh and in that moment appeared to

help uh and in that moment appeared to to give me permission to act responsibly

to give me permission to act responsibly towards helping her to homeostatically

towards helping her to homeostatically reregulate

reregulate herself that's something psychist do not

herself that's something psychist do not do whether they're youngi freudians or

do whether they're youngi freudians or whatever in they are they don't do that

whatever in they are they don't do that they're not there for people they're

they're not there for people they're there for the process of the

there for the process of the theory well even back when when you were

theory well even back when when you were a policeman Steve you you were

a policeman Steve you you were fundamentally a person first wearing the

fundamentally a person first wearing the police uniform weren't you and uh that's

police uniform weren't you and uh that's how it should be in this field um we

how it should be in this field um we should be people first yeah and uh

should be people first yeah and uh therapists academics whatever

therapists academics whatever secondarily to that that that that

secondarily to that that that that should be the motivating force yeah for

should be the motivating force yeah for anything that's to do with wanting to

anything that's to do with wanting to help people or be in service of people

help people or be in service of people yeah and I think what what that does to

yeah and I think what what that does to that kind of field resonance that you

that kind of field resonance that you describe which is so fundamental to to

describe which is so fundamental to to rapport uh has an impersonal quality to

rapport uh has an impersonal quality to it that moves you away from transference

it that moves you away from transference as well that that that's a a really good

as well that that that's a a really good point because it it does feel like as if

point because it it does feel like as if you step outside of yourself you're

you step outside of yourself you're there you're not a at a distance

there you're not a at a distance participant Observer you're fully

participant Observer you're fully present uh but you're fully present with

present uh but you're fully present with a purpose which is defined by the

a purpose which is defined by the context and you have to live up to it

context and you have to live up to it that that's the thing you're called upon

that that's the thing you're called upon to live up to it and then you go through

to live up to it and then you go through it the a different configuration people

it the a different configuration people different problems all sorts would come

different problems all sorts would come in in medical centers particularly and

in in medical centers particularly and everyone you have to adjust to in a

everyone you have to adjust to in a particular way um but this was very

particular way um but this was very marked it's instances up there's nothing

marked it's instances up there's nothing left for this

left for this person but she's giving it you know

person but she's giving it you know giving that

giving that M

yeah yeah you got to well you got to not feel it at the time you have to feel it

feel it at the time you have to feel it but not consciously the feelings

but not consciously the feelings presence and that you have to do this

presence and that you have to do this you have to dissociate you you have to

you have to dissociate you you have to dissociate yourself in order to manage

dissociate yourself in order to manage the complexity of what's presenting and

the complexity of what's presenting and and the potential issues you can't be

and the potential issues you can't be cognitive about it no but you do have to

cognitive about it no but you do have to have an element of you that is in a

have an element of you that is in a cognitive State superposition with the

cognitive State superposition with the others all these different elements of

others all these different elements of you have to work harmoniously as a field

you have to work harmoniously as a field and then you emit a a confidence a calm

and then you emit a a confidence a calm quiet relaxed confidence that the other

quiet relaxed confidence that the other person picks up on that's that's super

person picks up on that's that's super important regarding the complex that was

important regarding the complex that was at work in this case was there a

at work in this case was there a particular reason why it superpositioned

particular reason why it superpositioned itself in such a stark very Dynamic way

itself in such a stark very Dynamic way within blood pH was that to do with the

within blood pH was that to do with the conditions under which it perhaps formed

conditions under which it perhaps formed extreme stress literal

extreme stress literal hyperventilation that perseverated and

hyperventilation that perseverated and that then forms the biological State

that then forms the biological State encoder that also then the complex

encoder that also then the complex wishes to um

wishes to um maintain is is that the reason why or is

maintain is is that the reason why or is it something else because it had a

it something else because it had a history to it uh and because it it joins

history to it uh and because it it joins things in the past with things in the

things in the past with things in the present and then things that occur in

present and then things that occur in the future this is what I was saying

the future this is what I was saying about going to a first cause is not

about going to a first cause is not always helpful because the first cause

always helpful because the first cause is not necessarily the first cause it's

is not necessarily the first cause it's just the earliest traceable Association

just the earliest traceable Association to the complex that is active in the

to the complex that is active in the present because complexes are dynamic as

present because complexes are dynamic as you said and they pick up things from

you said and they pick up things from the past to give themselves a timeline

the past to give themselves a timeline if a complex can persuade the ego that

if a complex can persuade the ego that it's always been there then the ego is

it's always been there then the ego is going to be less able to separate itself

going to be less able to separate itself from it because we identify with it

from it because we identify with it under such conditions and say it's

under such conditions and say it's always been me I cannot separate

always been me I cannot separate separate myself from it what I would say

separate myself from it what I would say is and this is just a possession because

is and this is just a possession because again I don't always pursue things I

again I don't always pursue things I look for outcomes

look for outcomes uh is that it's likely that when she was

uh is that it's likely that when she was raped she was

raped she was hyperventilating uh and then the traum

hyperventilating uh and then the traum of the abortion and the emotions you're

of the abortion and the emotions you're either hyperventilated before during or

either hyperventilated before during or after or all three of those and then

after or all three of those and then that state became encoded either

that state became encoded either principally during the rap experience or

principally during the rap experience or afterwards um during the abortion or

afterwards um during the abortion or around it it may not have occurred in

around it it may not have occurred in relationship to the parents but the

relationship to the parents but the thing that links it up is that once the

thing that links it up is that once the base state is is constellated and it

base state is is constellated and it Associates other things to it then the

Associates other things to it then the recall of these other associations makes

recall of these other associations makes a person hyperv insulate even if they

a person hyperv insulate even if they didn't at the time that they occurred so

didn't at the time that they occurred so the relationship to urance became an

the relationship to urance became an issue of hyperventilation but it may not

issue of hyperventilation but it may not have

have been

been initially and on the cogram you can see

initially and on the cogram you can see she hyperventilates when thinking about

she hyperventilates when thinking about appearance so everything is is a source

appearance so everything is is a source of

of hyperventilation and it was probably the

hyperventilation and it was probably the extreme trauma in in this case that

extreme trauma in in this case that caused the association and I think this

caused the association and I think this is

is a a good point or a good moment to help

a a good point or a good moment to help clarify for people what we mean by a

clarify for people what we mean by a field when we talk about a field in this

field when we talk about a field in this context a field of superposition

context a field of superposition information what we mean is not a field

information what we mean is not a field of one thing the so-called homogeneous

of one thing the so-called homogeneous field like in physics where you have an

field like in physics where you have an electron field and that's all it is uh

electron field and that's all it is uh here we have a heterogeneous field a

here we have a heterogeneous field a field of different things and they are

field of different things and they are in association to one another so they

in association to one another so they are connected continuously and that

are connected continuously and that defines a field of associated

defines a field of associated information so it's information of

information so it's information of different kinds Associated together that

different kinds Associated together that forms a meta field which is the

forms a meta field which is the representation of the activity of a

representation of the activity of a complex we can

complex we can say so that's what we mean by a field

say so that's what we mean by a field and that's how I would answer what what

and that's how I would answer what what you said about the hyp of canellation uh

you said about the hyp of canellation uh it probably wasn't there in the early

it probably wasn't there in the early stages but it became Associated to it

stages but it became Associated to it and then the whole thing became a field

and then the whole thing became a field connected by an acidbase

connected by an acidbase disruption so when we remove the

disruption so when we remove the acidbase disruption suddenly the field

acidbase disruption suddenly the field has no ability to maintain itself it

has no ability to maintain itself it can't it can't configure and connect uh

can't it can't configure and connect uh this is what uh you know that we talk

this is what uh you know that we talk about when we we we mentioned

about when we we we mentioned dissociation activ with the ego from

dissociation activ with the ego from different representational qualia that

different representational qualia that it has like cognition effect interior

it has like cognition effect interior reception exterior reception this is how

reception exterior reception this is how both of those work together the ability

both of those work together the ability to separate to detach from attachment to

to separate to detach from attachment to representations means that we can

representations means that we can separate ourselves off from traumas and

separate ourselves off from traumas and from complexes without repression

from complexes without repression because repression is when a complex is

because repression is when a complex is split off and it separated itself but it

split off and it separated itself but it acts anyway it's still there it's still

acts anyway it's still there it's still doing something what we want to do is to

doing something what we want to do is to separate the eggo off from idenification

separate the eggo off from idenification with the complex or by the complex to

with the complex or by the complex to the ego they can't bond as it can't bond

the ego they can't bond as it can't bond nothing sustains it because complexes of

nothing sustains it because complexes of parasites they live off our energy and

parasites they live off our energy and our information our configuration of

our information our configuration of life if it's separated off from that and

life if it's separated off from that and there is nothing supporting it by way of

there is nothing supporting it by way of identification consciously or

identification consciously or unconsciously the complexes in effect

unconsciously the complexes in effect are metabolized informationally and they

are metabolized informationally and they break down and they're gone and uh that

break down and they're gone and uh that was the outcome for this young lady

was the outcome for this young lady thank you Steve that really helps

thank you Steve that really helps clarify things on that and that makes

clarify things on that and that makes perfect sense because if we think about

perfect sense because if we think about someone who is actively let's take an

someone who is actively let's take an obvious case someone who is really

obvious case someone who is really actively hyperventilating say

actively hyperventilating say deliberately as per um these these

deliberately as per um these these strange breathing practices that go

strange breathing practices that go around the internet at the

around the internet at the moment they will report and obviously so

moment they will report and obviously so being in a dissociated state they're in

being in a dissociated state they're in an altered state of consciousness and so

an altered state of consciousness and so there is something innately dissociable

there is something innately dissociable to the field of the ego broadly for you

to the field of the ego broadly for you know um hypercapnic States within blood

know um hypercapnic States within blood pH so that makes perfect sense you

pH so that makes perfect sense you remove that biological factor through

remove that biological factor through appealing to homeostasis fundamentally

appealing to homeostasis fundamentally that was by hypnosis initially if you

that was by hypnosis initially if you did it and homeostasis then can can work

did it and homeostasis then can can work to remove that complex broadly but very

to remove that complex broadly but very naturally it sounds like it wasn't

naturally it sounds like it wasn't targeting a complex in a sense or nobody

targeting a complex in a sense or nobody was targeting or challenging a complex

was targeting or challenging a complex directly it was all through appealing to

directly it was all through appealing to what should be naturally all along

what should be naturally all along that's a really good point and um

that's a really good point and um because the complex was so traumatic uh

because the complex was so traumatic uh the the core configuration of it as a

the the core configuration of it as a field as it was presenting then then

field as it was presenting then then that was its

that was its weakness if it is so distributed between

weakness if it is so distributed between different states that the associational

different states that the associational field that makes up the complex has to

field that makes up the complex has to be approached in different ways in order

be approached in different ways in order to find that little piece of jenger that

to find that little piece of jenger that you pull out and the whole thing comes

you pull out and the whole thing comes down then that is different and it can

down then that is different and it can take a little while longer but not much

take a little while longer but not much longer if you do the right things but

longer if you do the right things but this was so clear so very very clear um

this was so clear so very very clear um and as I say the the main takeaway for

and as I say the the main takeaway for psychodynamic orientated therapist on

psychodynamic orientated therapist on this is that the transference you should

this is that the transference you should never ever ever go looking for it you

never ever ever go looking for it you should never elicit it and if it's

should never elicit it and if it's offered you should seek to understand

offered you should seek to understand its

its purpose um because the purpose behind

purpose um because the purpose behind its immediate presentation will always

its immediate presentation will always be some kind of self-cure as young said

be some kind of self-cure as young said and as young said it's misfired that's

and as young said it's misfired that's that says what it is but it still

that says what it is but it still doesn't solve it we have to find the

doesn't solve it we have to find the meaning behind it and to do that so long

meaning behind it and to do that so long as you have a good enough therapeutic

as you have a good enough therapeutic relationship with someone you should not

relationship with someone you should not pathologize the transference you should

pathologize the transference you should work around it um but to many

work around it um but to many psychoanalytic orientated or psychic

psychoanalytic orientated or psychic therapists want there to be a negative

therapists want there to be a negative transference they want that and from

transference they want that and from that they infer all sorts of past

that they infer all sorts of past relationships and then locate the

relationships and then locate the disturbance and childhood experiences

disturbance and childhood experiences which causes the egoo to regress into

which causes the egoo to regress into childhood ego States they become

childhood ego States they become vulnerable and of course the therapist

vulnerable and of course the therapist is the parent and they become uh

is the parent and they become uh dependently attached to the therapist

dependently attached to the therapist that should not be Our intention it

that should not be Our intention it should not be the outcome of therapy and

should not be the outcome of therapy and what we're looking for with this

what we're looking for with this self-regulatory meta field which is

self-regulatory meta field which is rooted in the genome and its imminent

rooted in the genome and its imminent regulatory Fields is what the unions

regulatory Fields is what the unions understand is the self archetype but

understand is the self archetype but they can't approach it in this healing

they can't approach it in this healing way because they put so much nonsense in

way because they put so much nonsense in between the direct experience of this

between the direct experience of this organizing principle within the

organizing principle within the personality and the patient they put all

personality and the patient they put all these mythology in the way and they lack

these mythology in the way and they lack the capacity to relate naturally

the capacity to relate naturally according to how the psyche presents

according to how the psyche presents itself and it presents itself in

itself and it presents itself in different partition

different partition States uh the partitioning is the key

States uh the partitioning is the key you get very very little progress if you

you get very very little progress if you talk only to the cognitive part of

talk only to the cognitive part of someone and you get virtually little

someone and you get virtually little more progress if you just talk to them

more progress if you just talk to them in an emotional receptive way you're

in an emotional receptive way you're still within the field of the egoo or

still within the field of the egoo or its conjoint field of complexes um and

its conjoint field of complexes um and the complexes can play all sorts of

the complexes can play all sorts of games with you forever if you're not

games with you forever if you're not careful but if you can access and is

careful but if you can access and is relatively simple to do if you did the

relatively simple to do if you did the right thing the homeostatic

right thing the homeostatic self-regulating principle then that

self-regulating principle then that which the young y seek is immediately

which the young y seek is immediately present as it was for that woman within

present as it was for that woman within seconds of walking in the

seconds of walking in the room but if they say it's impossible

room but if they say it's impossible you've got to go through the shadow and

you've got to go through the shadow and she'd have to go through the Animus and

she'd have to go through the Animus and that would have to be analyzed and you

that would have to be analyzed and you bring all sorts of mythological stories

bring all sorts of mythological stories in and and get to tell you her dreams

in and and get to tell you her dreams for years the girl would be dead before

for years the girl would be dead before any kind of effect had been brought

any kind of effect had been brought uh to any kind of conclusion for it that

uh to any kind of conclusion for it that way it's deception isn't it really it's

way it's deception isn't it really it's self deception it a yes it is a form of

self deception it a yes it is a form of deception um to generate the illusion

deception um to generate the illusion that something has to take that amount

that something has to take that amount of time when it simply

of time when it simply doesn't I mean that that in and of

doesn't I mean that that in and of itself would evoke a Trans State yeah

itself would evoke a Trans State yeah and um suggestion Auto suggest gestion

and um suggestion Auto suggest gestion will probably do the rest unfortunately

will probably do the rest unfortunately yeah that becomes a complex it does yeah

yeah that becomes a complex it does yeah I think just to come back to your

I think just to come back to your analogy about the Jenga about removing

analogy about the Jenga about removing the piece and and you know the rest of

the piece and and you know the rest of the the stack falling down um presumably

the the stack falling down um presumably then um maybe just to sort of elucidate

then um maybe just to sort of elucidate a little bit more that in this

a little bit more that in this particular case

particular case because what the thing that was removed

because what the thing that was removed or the thing that was re re regulated

or the thing that was re re regulated which was the M based balance of our

which was the M based balance of our body was was so fundamental to

body was was so fundamental to everything else was holding everything

everything else was holding everything else up in effect was what allowed you

else up in effect was what allowed you to have such a con complete solution

to have such a con complete solution yeah to the problem for her but had that

yeah to the problem for her but had that been a different

been a different scenario um whereby you know something

scenario um whereby you know something is teased out and dealt with but it's

is teased out and dealt with but it's not it's not pivotal to homeostasis

not it's not pivotal to homeostasis homeostasis necessarily then the

homeostasis necessarily then the Neurosis the complex will continue to

Neurosis the complex will continue to exist in other superpositioned forms

exist in other superpositioned forms haven't actually been touched by the

haven't actually been touched by the intervention yes that can happen as well

intervention yes that can happen as well can't it it can happen and thank you I

can't it it can happen and thank you I I'd like to move on then James to

I'd like to move on then James to another case study where pretty much

another case study where pretty much that's the case it had been so long

that's the case it had been so long established uh that the woman wasn't

established uh that the woman wasn't particularly hyperventilating at all uh

particularly hyperventilating at all uh and she had completely staticized um and

and she had completely staticized um and the the partitioning was was in that

the the partitioning was was in that state then and the approach to her was

state then and the approach to her was very different and had to be different

very different and had to be different but there was still that understanding

but there was still that understanding of this is the problem that we are being

of this is the problem that we are being confronted with we have the conversion

confronted with we have the conversion of a a severe trauma into a purely

of a a severe trauma into a purely physical representation that was so

physical representation that was so stubbornly resisting everything that it

stubbornly resisting everything that it had to be concealing something that was

had to be concealing something that was the original cause but the original

the original cause but the original cause was long long gone

cause was long long gone M and she was now suffering from the

M and she was now suffering from the symbolic representation of that

trauma in World War II a young German woman witnessed the British RAF

woman witnessed the British RAF firebombing her City destroying

firebombing her City destroying buildings and incinerating people in

buildings and incinerating people in front of our eyes

shortly after the war she fell in love with a British soldier married him and

with a British soldier married him and fully integrated into British

Society soon afterwards she developed intractable irritable Bal syndrome over

intractable irritable Bal syndrome over 30 years doctors found that they were

30 years doctors found that they were incapable of helping

incapable of helping her but the psyche always represents

her but the psyche always represents itself with just the movement of a

itself with just the movement of a finger under

finger under hypnosis her symptoms were

gone so this lady was born I think it was 1920 she was the same age as my

was 1920 she was the same age as my mother actually uh strangely enough and

mother actually uh strangely enough and um when she came to me she was 75 years

um when she came to me she was 75 years old and she'd had irritable bowel for

old and she'd had irritable bowel for over 30 years and it was intractable

over 30 years and it was intractable she'd had all sorts treatments and again

she'd had all sorts treatments and again the doctors have given up and she was a

the doctors have given up and she was a personal friend of a GP at the practice

personal friend of a GP at the practice that Paul and I were asked at that time

that Paul and I were asked at that time and she was uh referred to us in the

and she was uh referred to us in the hope that we could do something with

hope that we could do something with irritable bow because the gp4 hypnosis

irritable bow because the gp4 hypnosis could be valuable in helping someone

could be valuable in helping someone relax so once we received the case study

relax so once we received the case study which which you do or or the case note

which which you do or or the case note in advance then it was pretty much

in advance then it was pretty much immediately clear that she was carrying

immediately clear that she was carrying something in a symbolic form was being

something in a symbolic form was being represented that way because this is

represented that way because this is with verus of well because she'd had all

with verus of well because she'd had all of the

of the investigations and of as often happens a

investigations and of as often happens a varable bow there's no immediate

varable bow there's no immediate solution medically to this why why does

solution medically to this why why does it care it was a

it care it was a Myster but it was also obvious that she

Myster but it was also obvious that she was born in Germany and she married a

was born in Germany and she married a British soldier just after the second

British soldier just after the second world war and come to live in the UK and

world war and come to live in the UK and I thought that was significant but I

I thought that was significant but I didn't want to push it with this this

didn't want to push it with this this this elderly lady because she had other

this elderly lady because she had other problems other medical problems

problems other medical problems and uh if there was something stressful

and uh if there was something stressful behind it pushing her to the point where

behind it pushing her to the point where she might emotionally abreact could have

she might emotionally abreact could have cause

cause problems um as we've discussed in other

problems um as we've discussed in other videos that has happened in some medical

videos that has happened in some medical centers that we've worked at where

centers that we've worked at where nurses have uh even indirectly brought

nurses have uh even indirectly brought about an AB reaction an emotional

about an AB reaction an emotional discharge in an elderly person whilst

discharge in an elderly person whilst they're on an EEG machine sorry an ECG

they're on an EEG machine sorry an ECG machine and ECG tracing picks up and a

machine and ECG tracing picks up and a schic events and words are having a

schic events and words are having a small heart attack in real time even

small heart attack in real time even though it's not being felt by the person

though it's not being felt by the person something is going on which is uh not

something is going on which is uh not very nice brought about by a very slight

very nice brought about by a very slight emotional

emotional discharge so having got the um the case

discharge so having got the um the case study from this lady she was at a loss

study from this lady she was at a loss to explain herself what had happened but

to explain herself what had happened but she told me that she'd gone through a

she told me that she'd gone through a firebombing uh immensely traumatic one

firebombing uh immensely traumatic one by the RAF uh nice that caused a fire

by the RAF uh nice that caused a fire storm in the city that she was living in

storm in the city that she was living in which sucked all the air in and and

which sucked all the air in and and causing hurricane force winds to lift

causing hurricane force winds to lift people out of buildings to pull

people out of buildings to pull buildings apart and pull human beings on

buildings apart and pull human beings on mass towards a central conflation where

mass towards a central conflation where they were incinerated in a big heat and

they were incinerated in a big heat and she'd witnessed this and um that had

she'd witnessed this and um that had been massively traumatic obviously

been massively traumatic obviously beyond anything that I could have any

beyond anything that I could have any kind of living connection with of other

kind of living connection with of other than a virtual representation and what

than a virtual representation and what my mother had told me about the uh the

my mother had told me about the uh the bombing in Liverpool in the blitz

bombing in Liverpool in the blitz 1941

1941 so I knew I had to reach this lady

so I knew I had to reach this lady somehow uh and find out why she had

somehow uh and find out why she had osble bow and I suspected it was that I

osble bow and I suspected it was that I didn't want to suggest that it was but

didn't want to suggest that it was but we we used hypnosis used chevos pendulum

we we used hypnosis used chevos pendulum first we got the um the agreement that I

first we got the um the agreement that I would be allowed to help it and the rest

would be allowed to help it and the rest of it we went into it

of it we went into it nois and sure enough in that state while

nois and sure enough in that state while she was dissociated she told her story

she was dissociated she told her story um which was that she witnessed this and

um which was that she witnessed this and then she married she actually was

then she married she actually was genuinely is a love marriage she wasn't

genuinely is a love marriage she wasn't forced in any way at all or arranged or

forced in any way at all or arranged or anything like that um she fell in love

anything like that um she fell in love with a British soldier and the army of

with a British soldier and the army of occupation after the end of the second

occupation after the end of the second World War uh came to live as as a

World War uh came to live as as a British Citizen and nobody called her a

British Citizen and nobody called her a Nazi or a fascist or anything like that

Nazi or a fascist or anything like that they all thought she was great she was

they all thought she was great she was fully integrated into society and she

fully integrated into society and she was like that for a number of years and

was like that for a number of years and then started to develop her bow and then

then started to develop her bow and then it it it it increased in intensity until

it it it it increased in intensity until it was crippling and it had been

it was crippling and it had been sustained that way for 30 years at

sustained that way for 30 years at least and nothing had helped her so I I

least and nothing had helped her so I I suspected without communicating to her

suspected without communicating to her that that was a representation of

that that was a representation of conflict between marrying into a British

conflict between marrying into a British soldier's family coming and living here

soldier's family coming and living here being accepted by the people and then

being accepted by the people and then something else that had a completely

something else that had a completely different uh belief and impression about

different uh belief and impression about what British people were like as a

what British people were like as a result of the

result of the trauma so the utilized hypnosis and I

trauma so the utilized hypnosis and I asked for any emotion that was connected

asked for any emotion that was connected with the uh the trauma of experiencing

with the uh the trauma of experiencing the firebombing and the

the firebombing and the subsequent uh conflict to be really

subsequent uh conflict to be really safely without her having to feel any of

safely without her having to feel any of it and it could be discharged through

it and it could be discharged through movement through finger if the

movement through finger if the unconscious mind

unconscious mind agreed um and meanwhile she could just

agreed um and meanwhile she could just passively watch this happening with a

passively watch this happening with a lot of interest but with non-attachment

lot of interest but with non-attachment to the process and certainly nothing

to the process and certainly nothing occurring within a body other than that

occurring within a body other than that isolated movement and that's what

isolated movement and that's what happened and their finger moved and

happened and their finger moved and vibrated really rapidly for quite a long

vibrated really rapidly for quite a long time and then finally it just stopped

time and then finally it just stopped and relaxed then I terminated slowly and

and relaxed then I terminated slowly and gently paced it L the hypnosis session

gently paced it L the hypnosis session she was UN aable to come out having told

she was UN aable to come out having told me the story and gone through the

me the story and gone through the release saying she felt much better and

release saying she felt much better and uh her GP friend at the practice the

uh her GP friend at the practice the doctor there I could name her but is it

doctor there I could name her but is it worth naming it does it matter probably

worth naming it does it matter probably not no not she didn't help her did she

not no not she didn't help her did she she didn't help her um her doctor

she didn't help her um her doctor reported back that the symptoms had gone

reported back that the symptoms had gone completely for the first time ever uh

completely for the first time ever uh and she was what did you do

and she was what did you do and I said well she just divided herself

and I said well she just divided herself for a short period of time whilst one

for a short period of time whilst one part that didn't feel anything felt

part that didn't feel anything felt everything that she shouldn't

everything that she shouldn't feel and then allowed it to drift away

feel and then allowed it to drift away with a floating

with a floating finger and of course that's not

finger and of course that's not something that a medical practitioner

something that a medical practitioner can have any kind of congruence with

can have any kind of congruence with because it's outside of their

because it's outside of their experience but the importance of that is

experience but the importance of that is to to to separate off the effects of

to to to separate off the effects of affect and traa from

affect and traa from the 's perception of it and of it

the 's perception of it and of it registering within the body very often

registering within the body very often stresses in the body and not registered

stresses in the body and not registered by the ago of stress but it still has an

by the ago of stress but it still has an effect on the body and that was what I

effect on the body and that was what I wanted to do and that was part of the

wanted to do and that was part of the the hypnotic induction is that she would

the hypnotic induction is that she would be completely separated off from that

be completely separated off from that and it would not be registered anywhere

and it would not be registered anywhere except in the movements of the finger

except in the movements of the finger because an AB reaction that is to say an

because an AB reaction that is to say an emotional discharge under hypnosis can

emotional discharge under hypnosis can actually amplify the insensi of the

actually amplify the insensi of the emotion the emotion as felt is also

emotion the emotion as felt is also somatic it is in the body it's super

somatic it is in the body it's super position between the mind and the body

position between the mind and the body in the context of the of the moment

in the context of the of the moment itself so it is bioc psychosocial it's

itself so it is bioc psychosocial it's part of the theraputic encounter at the

part of the theraputic encounter at the diadic level if you can separate

diadic level if you can separate attachment off from that then it's as if

attachment off from that then it's as if the field is reconfiguring and the

the field is reconfiguring and the symbol the expression of that is the

symbol the expression of that is the movement of the

movement of the finger and in those circumstances in

finger and in those circumstances in that moment to do with that kind of

that moment to do with that kind of presentation and made the clinical

presentation and made the clinical judgment that it was necessary for not

judgment that it was necessary for not to feel anything because it's not

to feel anything because it's not necessary for her to feel

necessary for her to feel anything uh and that actually would

anything uh and that actually would mirror the process of what had happened

mirror the process of what had happened she no longer had an affective

she no longer had an affective connection to the representation of The

connection to the representation of The Firestorm as being irritable

Firestorm as being irritable bowel um so she was already separated

bowel um so she was already separated from it but it had left behind that

from it but it had left behind that partition symptom and representation

partition symptom and representation that was still

that was still active so by not asking it to make the

active so by not asking it to make the connection and then reconnect the

connection and then reconnect the emotion and then apparently discharge it

emotion and then apparently discharge it but likely just to kick off a

but likely just to kick off a psychosomatic storm in her body that

psychosomatic storm in her body that could have brought about something awful

could have brought about something awful you know like an es

you know like an es schema uh either then or later the work

schema uh either then or later the work of Norman Ka and American cardiologist

of Norman Ka and American cardiologist has pointed out the dangers of death

has pointed out the dangers of death byab

byab reaction um and was very firmly in my

reaction um and was very firmly in my mind I had to build up that uh trust and

mind I had to build up that uh trust and communication with a psyche which

communication with a psyche which obviously by then I was very well

obviously by then I was very well experienced of doing and I was

experienced of doing and I was comfortable about doing that and about

comfortable about doing that and about the necessary stages uh but she had to

the necessary stages uh but she had to feel comfortable with that too and the

feel comfortable with that too and the preparation for that was the confidence

preparation for that was the confidence her GP had in me which helped and then

her GP had in me which helped and then the experience of chevo's pendulum which

the experience of chevo's pendulum which is a light form of dissociation that

is a light form of dissociation that person can experience while still fully

person can experience while still fully aware and then the induction of a formal

aware and then the induction of a formal trans and a deepening with a wider

trans and a deepening with a wider separation that matched the original

separation that matched the original separation but did not allow the Eros B

separation but did not allow the Eros B syndome to reconvert itself into an AFF

syndome to reconvert itself into an AFF effect which would endanger the

effect which would endanger the stability of her ego and of her her

stability of her ego and of her her body but release itself differently in a

body but release itself differently in a way that did not require

way that did not require feeling so I've explained that a couple

feeling so I've explained that a couple of different ways but it's the same

of different ways but it's the same thing and very often with trauma that's

thing and very often with trauma that's the most effective way of dealing it

the most effective way of dealing it particularly a very long-term one that

particularly a very long-term one that has become so symbolically registered

has become so symbolically registered the talking to it at a cognitive level

the talking to it at a cognitive level will make no

will make no difference uh and accessing it at a a

difference uh and accessing it at a a pure affect level would endanger her

pure affect level would endanger her health we had to or I had to deepen the

health we had to or I had to deepen the dissociation and needed the trust from

dissociation and needed the trust from the lady to do that and to work with

the lady to do that and to work with that and to do that I had to use the

that and to do that I had to use the environment

environment uh that she was in which was the medical

uh that she was in which was the medical center which was her her doctor and her

center which was her her doctor and her personal friend her confidence in me and

personal friend her confidence in me and the specific way that the room was

the specific way that the room was arranged which we've discussed before

arranged which we've discussed before James I think in videos and how that you

James I think in videos and how that you you generate the most receptive and

you generate the most receptive and healing experience you can for someone

healing experience you can for someone and all of that then feeds into the

and all of that then feeds into the field of the therapeutic interaction you

field of the therapeutic interaction you have with

have with someone and uh that's that's how that

someone and uh that's that's how that worked and it's difference in in kind to

worked and it's difference in in kind to how my mother and uh my auntie Lily

how my mother and uh my auntie Lily dealt with the the bombing in Liverpool

dealt with the the bombing in Liverpool which we also covered in the last video

which we also covered in the last video where my mother dissociated in real time

where my mother dissociated in real time uh to the extent that she she wasn't

uh to the extent that she she wasn't traumatized she naturally dissociated

traumatized she naturally dissociated with bombs going off all around her by

with bombs going off all around her by turning the sensory experience into a

turning the sensory experience into a different meaning it was like bonfire

different meaning it was like bonfire night you know or fourth of July for an

night you know or fourth of July for an American you know fireworks explosions

American you know fireworks explosions and things going off everywhere

and things going off everywhere and I know buildings were catching far

and I know buildings were catching far and falling down and uh people were

and falling down and uh people were being killed uh nearby um my mother was

being killed uh nearby um my mother was not in a state of receptivity to the

not in a state of receptivity to the suggestion of those real facts she was

suggestion of those real facts she was in a different state Lily however was in

in a different state Lily however was in panic State she was in full-blown panpan

panic State she was in full-blown panpan panic and trying to climb up the wall of

panic and trying to climb up the wall of the doorway that she was in and my

the doorway that she was in and my mother talked her down gently by just

mother talked her down gently by just simply referring it to something else

simply referring it to something else that had a different meaning I don't

that had a different meaning I don't know if my mother's always been like

know if my mother's always been like that but she was always like that after

that but she was always like that after that event and as Pauline um met her

that event and as Pauline um met her more than 30 years afterwards um she was

more than 30 years afterwards um she was still like that wasn't you still had

still like that wasn't you still had this capacity to dissociate she did I

this capacity to dissociate she did I mean I would argue actually that that

mean I would argue actually that that was very adaptive um and and of course

was very adaptive um and and of course uh you know dissociate dissociation is

uh you know dissociate dissociation is adaptive to an extent otherwise it

adaptive to an extent otherwise it wouldn't occur in the way that it does

wouldn't occur in the way that it does for people in an ordinary everyday sense

for people in an ordinary everyday sense so you know the there are benefits to

so you know the there are benefits to having the capacity to do that she did

having the capacity to do that she did it par Excellence there's no there's no

it par Excellence there's no there's no doubt about that with apparently no ill

doubt about that with apparently no ill effects so we can only assume that in a

effects so we can only assume that in a homeostatic sense it went just as far as

homeostatic sense it went just as far as it needed to go to correct for any kind

it needed to go to correct for any kind of uh negative effects

of uh negative effects of course that's not always the casee

of course that's not always the casee and and everybody is different but um it

and and everybody is different but um it certainly served her well that's for

certainly served her well that's for sure um and uh you know we we might as

sure um and uh you know we we might as well as I think we you've been at pains

well as I think we you've been at pains to say throughout the whole of this day

to say throughout the whole of this day we might as well use that to positive

we might as well use that to positive effect uh to help people to heal through

effect uh to help people to heal through reassociation it's such a simple process

reassociation it's such a simple process such a simple mechanism really but it's

such a simple mechanism really but it's very very effective and and because it's

very very effective and and because it's based on something which is

based on something which is natural then the person's system as a

natural then the person's system as a whole is unlikely to resist the process

whole is unlikely to resist the process it tends to want to go with it yeah so

it tends to want to go with it yeah so there's a lot of advantages really there

there's a lot of advantages really there are Association there are so as um a

are Association there are so as um a ground state appreciation of

ground state appreciation of dissociation which is adapted it is um I

dissociation which is adapted it is um I would think that it's quite rare though

would think that it's quite rare though what she did I don't think there was

what she did I don't think there was anything special about her as a person

anything special about her as a person other than the fact she could do that

other than the fact she could do that yeah

yeah because most people when they dissociate

because most people when they dissociate do so in in a more negative way yes

do so in in a more negative way yes that's true at least in a clinical

that's true at least in a clinical stance we see the people who have failed

stance we see the people who have failed to adapt through dissociation yeah but

to adapt through dissociation yeah but uh the capacity to dissociate that is to

uh the capacity to dissociate that is to partition parts of our self our EG self

partition parts of our self our EG self and say you deal with that I am busy uh

and say you deal with that I am busy uh and then while you're dealing with it

and then while you're dealing with it consolidate if you like into a

consolidate if you like into a functional unit which will deal with

functional unit which will deal with future similar events that's how we deal

future similar events that's how we deal with a lots of things yeah um but

with a lots of things yeah um but sometimes they take on a life of their

sometimes they take on a life of their own and effect and their autonomy is

own and effect and their autonomy is such that they then start to attack Theo

such that they then start to attack Theo if Theo does not agree with the setup

if Theo does not agree with the setup instructions of the complex anical

instructions of the complex anical complex yeah um at a psychological level

complex yeah um at a psychological level and then when it starts to somaticize if

and then when it starts to somaticize if it completely vanishes as happened with

it completely vanishes as happened with the lady from Germany uh then it

the lady from Germany uh then it invariably becomes a a symbolic

invariably becomes a a symbolic representation of something and we've

representation of something and we've heard it was the knotted twist bowel of

heard it was the knotted twist bowel of conflict between two completely

conflict between two completely diametrically opposed opinions about

diametrically opposed opinions about British people one is that they are mass

British people one is that they are mass murderers and the others they're

murderers and the others they're wonderful and she could not reconcile

wonderful and she could not reconcile them and so her dissociation just sank

them and so her dissociation just sank down below the level of Consciousness

down below the level of Consciousness over a period of years and then finally

over a period of years and then finally represented as AOS or bowel which then

represented as AOS or bowel which then became the symbol for everything and

became the symbol for everything and anything that could be connected to it

anything that could be connected to it so the first cause was important

so the first cause was important whereas in the earlier case the girl

whereas in the earlier case the girl with the cap the graph the rape and the

with the cap the graph the rape and the abortion and so forth the first cause

abortion and so forth the first cause was not import so again we have to be

was not import so again we have to be specific about what presents and what

specific about what presents and what you look for and and the pathways that

you look for and and the pathways that things take because in in that

things take because in in that particular case study if we think in a

particular case study if we think in a Rossy sense uh it was likely psychon

Rossy sense uh it was likely psychon neuropeptide probably uh but in other

neuropeptide probably uh but in other cases it you know the the psychological

cases it you know the the psychological material will take a different path a

material will take a different path a different route and it made when you

different route and it made when you talk about The Firestorm it actually

talk about The Firestorm it actually made me think of uh cyto kind storms in

made me think of uh cyto kind storms in the body you know so that immunological

the body you know so that immunological response or uh overreaction by the

response or uh overreaction by the immune system sometimes uh and all the

immune system sometimes uh and all the the symptomology that that follows on

the symptomology that that follows on from that uh is another way for things

from that uh is another way for things to be registered and um the thing is

to be registered and um the thing is these pathways are real even if uh the

these pathways are real even if uh the representation the physiological rep

representation the physiological rep representation in terms of symptomology

representation in terms of symptomology isn't it's real in the sense it's

isn't it's real in the sense it's experienc but not real in the sense that

experienc but not real in the sense that it um is reflective of disease process

it um is reflective of disease process but I think your your point earlier

but I think your your point earlier Steve too though that uh where these

Steve too though that uh where these things persist in that way where you

things persist in that way where you know that becomes uh a regular way for

know that becomes uh a regular way for that individual of dealing with a

that individual of dealing with a particular stress or or traumatic

particular stress or or traumatic situation then it it there's a point

situation then it it there's a point there a kind of a crossover point in

there a kind of a crossover point in which it becomes the beginning of

which it becomes the beginning of something else if we're not careful so I

something else if we're not careful so I think if we catch things at the point at

think if we catch things at the point at which they're symbolically

which they're symbolically represented then we can reverse things

represented then we can reverse things relatively easily yeah sometimes people

relatively easily yeah sometimes people go over that threshold and it becomes

go over that threshold and it becomes more difficult because it becomes

more difficult because it becomes disease process in the body um and you

disease process in the body um and you know if we go back to uh again to some

know if we go back to uh again to some of the um early Pioneers that we're

of the um early Pioneers that we're talking about before sh o Jan and others

talking about before sh o Jan and others things like catalepsy for example um you

things like catalepsy for example um you know when you that that obviously uh has

know when you that that obviously uh has to follow um the physiological Pathways

to follow um the physiological Pathways that exist to allow it to be expressed

that exist to allow it to be expressed in that way um and you know if we take a

in that way um and you know if we take a maybe a more modern perspective on that

maybe a more modern perspective on that the that might it might appear like that

the that might it might appear like that as purely a um a you know a a paralysis

as purely a um a you know a a paralysis such but it it might also take a more

such but it it might also take a more specific form so that it it mimics

specific form so that it it mimics something like um a hemiplegia in a

something like um a hemiplegia in a stroke oh yeah um or hemiparesis you

stroke oh yeah um or hemiparesis you know a paralysis St down one side of the

know a paralysis St down one side of the body

body yeah there's a case of that so to speak

yeah there's a case of that so to speak that nurse wasn't there there was indeed

that nurse wasn't there there was indeed yes there was yeah so I mention you can

yes there was yeah so I mention you can briefly it does illustr and this was a

briefly it does illustr and this was a trainee who was a nurse who was working

trainee who was a nurse who was working with us uh we were running courses in

with us uh we were running courses in medical senses but she was a a student

medical senses but she was a a student that was with us throughout but she

that was with us throughout but she worked with stroke patients and the

worked with stroke patients and the suggestion was was given so she could

suggestion was was given so she could experience hypnosis that the temperature

experience hypnosis that the temperature of the skin on her arms her two exposed

of the skin on her arms her two exposed forearms would be different one side

forearms would be different one side would be cold and one side would be hot

would be cold and one side would be hot and she received that um suggestion and

and she received that um suggestion and then Amplified it out so the whole of

then Amplified it out so the whole of one half of her body became cold as if

one half of her body became cold as if she had had a stroke and she couldn't

she had had a stroke and she couldn't move it and it was so paralysis and lack

move it and it was so paralysis and lack of sensation she basically replicated

of sensation she basically replicated she did through Auto suggestion by

she did through Auto suggestion by expanding on an initial suggestion

expanding on an initial suggestion something that would make sense of that

something that would make sense of that given her context as a

given her context as a nurse um so that's an example yes a very

nurse um so that's an example yes a very good one yes yeah and very often people

good one yes yeah and very often people will make sense of things accord or

will make sense of things accord or nonsense through representation of

nonsense through representation of suggestions or influence within the

suggestions or influence within the culture or within a family or a

culture or within a family or a relationship or just spontaneous is

relationship or just spontaneous is degenerated within themselves uh to do

degenerated within themselves uh to do as a representation of something they

as a representation of something they don't otherwise understand so they might

don't otherwise understand so they might well be a novel situation I can't

well be a novel situation I can't understand this so suddenly it becomes

understand this so suddenly it becomes something else as if that's trying to

something else as if that's trying to loop back and say it is like this and

loop back and say it is like this and that's one way that you can deal with

that's one way that you can deal with people who have so-called hysterical

people who have so-called hysterical symptoms is to bring them into

symptoms is to bring them into understanding that the representation

understanding that the representation is like something but it isn't really

is like something but it isn't really this is meant to draw your attention to

this is meant to draw your attention to that which is other than it that is in

that which is other than it that is in the background but there's no need for

the background but there's no need for you to of course feel or think about

you to of course feel or think about this because what the psyche puts there

this because what the psyche puts there the psyche can take

the psyche can take away uh and that's part of the

away uh and that's part of the preparation for someone so they can feel

preparation for someone so they can feel that it's not necessary to be upset by

that it's not necessary to be upset by anything or to become distressed or

anything or to become distressed or anything the the re-regulation can occur

anything the the re-regulation can occur spontaneously but you will be left with

spontaneously but you will be left with a very gentle understanding of the

a very gentle understanding of the meaning of the symptom so you don't have

meaning of the symptom so you don't have to use it again any further in order to

to use it again any further in order to attempt to bring understanding to

attempt to bring understanding to yourself very important ways of

yourself very important ways of clinically managing things so people

clinically managing things so people don't feel that they are being told

don't feel that they are being told there's something literally wrong with

there's something literally wrong with them at the level of character that they

them at the level of character that they are insufficient in character uh that

are insufficient in character uh that they are weak you know some of the old

they are weak you know some of the old uh doctors the n used to talk about an

uh doctors the n used to talk about an innate weakness in people who produced

innate weakness in people who produced hysterical symptoms I think that's

hysterical symptoms I think that's completely wrong it's just a normal

completely wrong it's just a normal extension of our capacity to

extension of our capacity to dissociate and um to take that

dissociate and um to take that dissociation and utilize it so it sols

dissociation and utilize it so it sols itself is the way of dealing with that

itself is the way of dealing with that when that

when that happens well what we probably haven't

happens well what we probably haven't addressed Steve sufficiently in all all

addressed Steve sufficiently in all all of this uh are those people who tend to

of this uh are those people who tend to represent things may they they may be uh

represent things may they they may be uh representing things physiologically

representing things physiologically maybe just purely in the form of a drive

maybe just purely in the form of a drive state that they're aware of a a drive

state that they're aware of a a drive state in the body but the

state in the body but the representation uh is

representation uh is overwhelmingly psychological or or

overwhelmingly psychological or or cognitive so say somebody with um OCD

cognitive so say somebody with um OCD for example uh might experience

for example uh might experience themselves in that state so there's

themselves in that state so there's there's the preoccupation with the the

there's the preoccupation with the the ideas as the rumary side of things so

ideas as the rumary side of things so that uh the trauma is represented

that uh the trauma is represented principally in that way but there is a

principally in that way but there is a physiological concomitant because that

physiological concomitant because that person's aware that they're anxious and

person's aware that they're anxious and and and that that is an unpleasant state

and and that that is an unpleasant state to be in so that that they will also

to be in so that that they will also potentially um form part of this um

potentially um form part of this um Coming psychosomatic storm in a way as

Coming psychosomatic storm in a way as well uh which we see to some

well uh which we see to some uh as arising principally out of the

uh as arising principally out of the culture and the kind of uh repressive

culture and the kind of uh repressive sort of um political regimes that we are

sort of um political regimes that we are forced to live within at the moment and

forced to live within at the moment and as they accelerate and become more

as they accelerate and become more repressive then there will be some

repressive then there will be some people who if they're not prepared for

people who if they're not prepared for it will be caught in in that way uh as

it will be caught in in that way uh as opposed to the ways that we've we've

opposed to the ways that we've we've mainly been describing so the idea that

mainly been describing so the idea that they can't uh that certain thoughts are

they can't uh that certain thoughts are in admiss ible because it's wrong to

in admiss ible because it's wrong to think in a certain way about things that

think in a certain way about things that may then act retroflect against them as

may then act retroflect against them as a psychodynamic and also be experienced

a psychodynamic and also be experienced in the body as I as a principally as a

in the body as I as a principally as a drive State dve yeah almost free

drive State dve yeah almost free floating anxiety yeah yeah it it'll be

floating anxiety yeah yeah it it'll be described as that won't it it will yes

described as that won't it it will yes almost universally

almost universally misunderstood by Medics unfortunately um

misunderstood by Medics unfortunately um whereas the drive stat is the

whereas the drive stat is the instinctive compens coming from Pure

instinctive compens coming from Pure form yeah for something that's

form yeah for something that's unacceptable to Instinct that's right or

unacceptable to Instinct that's right or instinct is unacceptable to the state of

instinct is unacceptable to the state of the ego because of the suggestion it's

the ego because of the suggestion it's received that's right say from the

received that's right say from the culture yeah if it's topped down if it

culture yeah if it's topped down if it originates within the person they can

originates within the person they can also suggest themselves into a state of

also suggest themselves into a state of repressing instincts that goes all the

repressing instincts that goes all the way back to Freud and Brer and even

way back to Freud and Brer and even earlier than then so it's been well

earlier than then so it's been well known about but largely forgotten

known about but largely forgotten unfortunately yeah uh but yeah um so the

unfortunately yeah uh but yeah um so the psychosomatic storm then would uh

psychosomatic storm then would uh represent itself in such people as a

represent itself in such people as a massive Drive State yeah um and anxiety

massive Drive State yeah um and anxiety is not an emotion the emotion is

is not an emotion the emotion is secondary to the anxiety which is the

secondary to the anxiety which is the drive state which is coming in a

drive state which is coming in a compensation uh pressurized form

compensation uh pressurized form directly from the genome itself that is

directly from the genome itself that is finding a situation intolerable yeah

finding a situation intolerable yeah including the ego's attitude as being

including the ego's attitude as being intolerable which is where unconscious

intolerable which is where unconscious anxiety comes from soal it's coming

anxiety comes from soal it's coming literally through genan expression um

literally through genan expression um and the ego can't make cognitive sense

and the ego can't make cognitive sense of it so it should give up on

of it so it should give up on cognition instinct is the solution to

cognition instinct is the solution to complexes instinct is the cure for

complexes instinct is the cure for complexes so long as you receive

complexes so long as you receive Instinct

Instinct properly that's absolutely the

properly that's absolutely the case that stepen Pauline that case

case that stepen Pauline that case stud's phenomenal to be completely

stud's phenomenal to be completely honest I can't imagine at all what it

honest I can't imagine at all what it would have been like to have gone

would have been like to have gone through what that woman went through

through what that woman went through with the firebombing let alone then that

with the firebombing let alone then that conflict that arose up afterwards

conflict that arose up afterwards through marrying a British soldier I'm

through marrying a British soldier I'm very interested on that particular

very interested on that particular aspect of it and when you said that

aspect of it and when you said that fundamentally you could represent or

fundamentally you could represent or understand what was going on for her

understand what was going on for her through a very deep

through a very deep conflict around viewing the British or

conflict around viewing the British or the or British soldiers Mass murderers

the or British soldiers Mass murderers or lovely people obviously though it's

or lovely people obviously though it's not a cognitive split it's not a

not a cognitive split it's not a philosophical thing are they good are

philosophical thing are they good are they bad that those U that c ative

they bad that those U that c ative representation goes deeper than that and

representation goes deeper than that and pertains then to fundamental Instinct

pertains then to fundamental Instinct and I was wondering if you could speak a

and I was wondering if you could speak a little bit further on that and what

little bit further on that and what might have been going on because it

might have been going on because it sounds like initially and perhaps for

sounds like initially and perhaps for very good reason um the the the um

very good reason um the the the um uncompromisable Instinct for

uncompromisable Instinct for self-preservation and everything else

self-preservation and everything else that would cluster around that kicked

that would cluster around that kicked off within her so that's when the

off within her so that's when the firebombing was taking place probably

firebombing was taking place probably pepian rage probably pepian fear

pepian rage probably pepian fear pepian Panic grief all of those

pepian Panic grief all of those fundamental drives are go no and there

fundamental drives are go no and there must have been some aspect of complex

must have been some aspect of complex Downstream to do with the the

Downstream to do with the the associations with that it sounds to me

associations with that it sounds to me and it's that then that associative

and it's that then that associative field both of idea but Instinct

field both of idea but Instinct fundamentally driving it that made that

fundamentally driving it that made that conflict almost inevitable it sounds

conflict almost inevitable it sounds like when she then goes and marries a

like when she then goes and marries a British soldier and then everything met

British soldier and then everything met her instinctive that that would be an

her instinctive that that would be an anticipated so presumably there would be

anticipated so presumably there would be obviously anpan lust in there but

obviously anpan lust in there but everything it would mean to have a

everything it would mean to have a relationship perhaps to become a mother

relationship perhaps to become a mother all of that kind of stuff so is that is

all of that kind of stuff so is that is that fundamentally there right down at

that fundamentally there right down at that genomic level really just above it

that genomic level really just above it you've got these two competing instincts

you've got these two competing instincts and they're being held in opposition by

and they're being held in opposition by a by that complex and that complex takes

a by that complex and that complex takes that pressure from both and Ducks it

that pressure from both and Ducks it down symbolically into the irritable bow

down symbolically into the irritable bow syndrome socaled yeah that's that's

syndrome socaled yeah that's that's perfectly

perfectly represented so the the two instincts

represented so the the two instincts then are actually meta instincts or we

then are actually meta instincts or we can cons them to be that and beneath

can cons them to be that and beneath that or between them there is something

that or between them there is something which unifies both and that will be a

which unifies both and that will be a meta scenario for The Meta instincts

meta scenario for The Meta instincts which will be where on on the one hand

which will be where on on the one hand you've you've got very ancient

you've you've got very ancient Paleolithic probably or even earlier

Paleolithic probably or even earlier representations of things like

representations of things like territoriality

territoriality um an identification with tribe and with

um an identification with tribe and with group uh with them and us uh and the

group uh with them and us uh and the fact that she was you could take that

fact that she was you could take that and and what happened to her out from

and and what happened to her out from the specifics and into something which

the specifics and into something which is very similar but very different at

is very similar but very different at the same time and that would be a raid

the same time and that would be a raid by One Tribe on another and a taking

by One Tribe on another and a taking away of the

away of the women uh this has been

women uh this has been demonstrated in the palei by G

demonstrated in the palei by G you know genomic analysis of skeletons

you know genomic analysis of skeletons the DNA from the skeletons of of women

the DNA from the skeletons of of women who were had been moved at some remove

who were had been moved at some remove and um had married into another group

and um had married into another group who were genetically dissimilar that

who were genetically dissimilar that kind of thing so in other words the

kind of thing so in other words the movement of women between populations

movement of women between populations has either happened to to build up

has either happened to to build up relationships or to break them and to

relationships or to break them and to seize territory and to some extent

seize territory and to some extent that's that's been conserved and it's

that's that's been conserved and it's almost as if there's a genetic memory of

almost as if there's a genetic memory of that uh and understanding it's a m

that uh and understanding it's a m instinctive level that it could be

instinctive level that it could be either of those and where it happens

either of those and where it happens voluntarily that's a good thing and

voluntarily that's a good thing and where it happens involuntarily it's a

where it happens involuntarily it's a bad thing and where does conflict where

bad thing and where does conflict where they both appear to have happened or

they both appear to have happened or have complimentary but opponent

have complimentary but opponent processed meanings to them you're going

processed meanings to them you're going to get Neurosis at an instinctive level

to get Neurosis at an instinctive level because it's both good and bad at the

because it's both good and bad at the same time I can't bring them together I

same time I can't bring them together I can't do this I may have married this

can't do this I may have married this person but if the war hadn't happened I

person but if the war hadn't happened I would have married somebody else these

would have married somebody else these are the Freudian questions you know in a

are the Freudian questions you know in a general psychoanalytic sort of Opus work

general psychoanalytic sort of Opus work with with someone you would venture into

with with someone you would venture into if you were taking that particular path

if you were taking that particular path what would your life have been like had

what would your life have been like had there not been a war or if you hadn't

there not been a war or if you hadn't been firebombed or you'd met a local

been firebombed or you'd met a local German uh Soldier perhaps veteran

German uh Soldier perhaps veteran because they were all more or less

because they were all more or less inducted into the army at that time um

inducted into the army at that time um You' have had a different life and she

You' have had a different life and she may well have been thinking this and

may well have been thinking this and then that unacceptable and repress that

then that unacceptable and repress that so one pole of the competing matter

so one pole of the competing matter instincts would take hold of that fire

instincts would take hold of that fire complex and then it would Express itself

complex and then it would Express itself and that would have to be repressed and

and that would have to be repressed and that side of the Instinct would be

that side of the Instinct would be saying the bres you're horrible but the

saying the bres you're horrible but the other side say no they're great the

other side say no they're great the wonderful when you're one now you are

wonderful when you're one now you are naturalized Bri and the other side would

naturalized Bri and the other side would say German and other side would say but

say German and other side would say but the Germans and the English are

the Germans and the English are gentically identical more or less you

gentically identical more or less you are the same and back and forth back and

are the same and back and forth back and can't take this W down bang into the

can't take this W down bang into the body and then it's represented at that

body and then it's represented at that level so with her it seemed that the

level so with her it seemed that the confession of it which she apparently

confession of it which she apparently had never done before and then the

had never done before and then the release of that which was keeping the

release of that which was keeping the two apart and not able to to bond back

two apart and not able to to bond back together had maintained the

together had maintained the symptom um so she'd never been able to

symptom um so she'd never been able to confess it she'd never been able to say

confess it she'd never been able to say I hate them but I also like them and I

I hate them but I also like them and I love this one English

love this one English man um just couldn't it just couldn't do

man um just couldn't it just couldn't do it she could couldn't confess it because

it she could couldn't confess it because she would have to betray the other pole

she would have to betray the other pole of the mess instinctive diad that was

of the mess instinctive diad that was was in Conflict so her conflict was at

was in Conflict so her conflict was at an instinctive level absolutely a meta

an instinctive level absolutely a meta instinctive representational level that

instinctive representational level that was so ancient it was probably

Paleolithic and then it just turned up in the stomach there contorted bowels

in the stomach there contorted bowels terrible suffering for a long long time

terrible suffering for a long long time you st I can see some strong elements in

you st I can see some strong elements in there of uh not reminiscent of Freud and

there of uh not reminiscent of Freud and Brer certainly in there and thinking

Brer certainly in there and thinking back obviously to their 1895 publication

back obviously to their 1895 publication studies on hysteria and even earlier

studies on hysteria and even earlier 1893 with their preliminary

1893 with their preliminary communication they they would

communication they they would essentially put people into a state of

essentially put people into a state of hypnosis and try and get that confession

hypnosis and try and get that confession from them yeah so-called confession from

from them yeah so-called confession from them but the most important thing that

them but the most important thing that they spoke on was the person had to

they spoke on was the person had to relive it they had to re-experience that

relive it they had to re-experience that but you you obviously demonstrat no they

but you you obviously demonstrat no they don't they do not have to do that or if

don't they do not have to do that or if they do it's not them it's a different

they do it's not them it's a different part of them that's partitioned off and

part of them that's partitioned off and that's dealing with it or that's feeling

that's dealing with it or that's feeling it metaphorically but on the feeling

it metaphorically but on the feeling point because this highlights your

point because this highlights your guys's model of superpositioning of

guys's model of superpositioning of information that instincts normally when

information that instincts normally when that fires forward we we feel that

that fires forward we we feel that effectively so as you guys say affect is

effectively so as you guys say affect is the carrier wave of instinct but

the carrier wave of instinct but obviously with superpositioning it

obviously with superpositioning it doesn't have to be in that affective

doesn't have to be in that affective form at all so with this with the case

form at all so with this with the case of this lady it wasn't in an affective

of this lady it wasn't in an affective form within ego Consciousness at all it

form within ego Consciousness at all it was in a different form so that' be

was in a different form so that' be fundamentally sematic representation as

fundamentally sematic representation as per your model of the four qualia of ego

per your model of the four qualia of ego Consciousness but deep structure

Consciousness but deep structure regardless of if it was in affect or in

regardless of if it was in affect or in somatic deep structure is still those

somatic deep structure is still those meta

meta instinctive um elements with that so the

instinctive um elements with that so the somatization is going back even further

somatization is going back even further than the affective

than the affective brain um so that's that is an extremely

brain um so that's that is an extremely deep dissociation when it goes that far

deep dissociation when it goes that far and there's no AFF connection at all

and there's no AFF connection at all where some people are aware of a

where some people are aware of a somatization and an unpleasant effect as

somatization and an unpleasant effect as being present at the same time but it

being present at the same time but it had been in that state of somatization

had been in that state of somatization for so long and there had been no

for so long and there had been no confession uh that it was now only

confession uh that it was now only represented at that level there was no

represented at that level there was no conscious AFF effect at all there was

conscious AFF effect at all there was likely AFF effect there certainly there

likely AFF effect there certainly there but it was not

but it was not associated it was dissociated in a

associated it was dissociated in a negative way now when we do the healing

negative way now when we do the healing PR process we do dissociate but what we

PR process we do dissociate but what we had to do in this case was dissociate

had to do in this case was dissociate from its chosen form of representation

from its chosen form of representation which was sematic and prevent it from

which was sematic and prevent it from becoming Associated then by being

becoming Associated then by being shifted into affect which would

shifted into affect which would overwhelm the ago and the karic method

overwhelm the ago and the karic method that you mentioned that Brer and Freud

that you mentioned that Brer and Freud brought about it's perfectly rational

brought about it's perfectly rational from their perspective that it seemed to

from their perspective that it seemed to be that that would be the way of doing

be that that would be the way of doing it but they found though they don't

it but they found though they don't think they adequately addressed it was

think they adequately addressed it was is that you you can cfat or abreact

is that you you can cfat or abreact young called it the therapeutic value or

young called it the therapeutic value or not of abreaction same thing emotional

not of abreaction same thing emotional release um that it just boils up again

release um that it just boils up again it's like you have a kettle boiling away

it's like you have a kettle boiling away and as it's nearly gone into steam

and as it's nearly gone into steam someone pours some more water in that's

someone pours some more water in that's what happens unfortunately a lot of the

what happens unfortunately a lot of the time with a cathartic or abreactive

time with a cathartic or abreactive approach to treating Neurosis we're

approach to treating Neurosis we're treating the emission and not the

treating the emission and not the source and um when that's affect that's

source and um when that's affect that's the problem we have to interpret and

the problem we have to interpret and understand or redirect the effect um so

understand or redirect the effect um so it doesn't Express itself as a so the

it doesn't Express itself as a so the the the aim of the treatment was to turn

the the aim of the treatment was to turn it into an idiot movements which would

it into an idiot movements which would be the new symbol for the condition but

be the new symbol for the condition but it would be time limited the suggestion

it would be time limited the suggestion was is this will move and when it stops

was is this will move and when it stops moving it's all over it's gone you will

moving it's all over it's gone you will be in effect dissociated again from that

be in effect dissociated again from that expression but with a safe understanding

expression but with a safe understanding of the meaning of why you had the

of the meaning of why you had the symptom without ever having to feel

symptom without ever having to feel it and a traditional psychoanalytic uh

it and a traditional psychoanalytic uh view would be worried they would they

view would be worried they would they would they would think that that will

would they would think that that will just reassociate itself well it didn't

just reassociate itself well it didn't and it doesn't when you don't suggest

and it doesn't when you don't suggest that it will if your method of approach

that it will if your method of approach suggests that that will happen you then

suggests that that will happen you then set off a further partitioning within

set off a further partitioning within the ago and the ago then sets up a

the ago and the ago then sets up a complex ready to

complex ready to receive this now redirected effect

receive this now redirected effect effect and then recharge it up because

effect and then recharge it up because the therapist has said that will happen

the therapist has said that will happen and therefore through the transference

and therefore through the transference you generate another complex and and

you generate another complex and and make the situation worse than it was in

make the situation worse than it was in the beginning so she demonstrated her

the beginning so she demonstrated her capacity to move the representation of

capacity to move the representation of the distress into her body we then

the distress into her body we then utilize the body in a different way not

utilize the body in a different way not SAS sensory but

SAS sensory but idiosa uh and then we we we let it move

idiosa uh and then we we we let it move out that way but leave behind find it

out that way but leave behind find it meaning and meaning ultimately is not

meaning and meaning ultimately is not cognitive the cognitive understanding of

cognitive the cognitive understanding of meaning is that the cognition receives a

meaning is that the cognition receives a representation of completeness and that

representation of completeness and that completeness has occurred before

completeness has occurred before cognition has ever grasped it so when

cognition has ever grasped it so when they receive it they don't analyze it

they receive it they don't analyze it they just know I have received a sense

they just know I have received a sense of meaning and a resolution was if you

of meaning and a resolution was if you say to them you must cognitively

say to them you must cognitively understand this they will generate a

understand this they will generate a virtual model of what they now believe

virtual model of what they now believe behind what they received and they alter

behind what they received and they alter what they received by doing that and it

what they received by doing that and it becomes another

becomes another complex so if they're encouraged to

complex so if they're encouraged to receive natural

receive natural homeostasis and the understanding that

homeostasis and the understanding that it's all been done and you don't need to

it's all been done and you don't need to feel it it's actually been solved your

feel it it's actually been solved your job is to live your life on the outside

job is to live your life on the outside not to overly interpret what you know

not to overly interpret what you know James that we understand as being

James that we understand as being internal projection where you fire

internal projection where you fire inwardly over over the unconscious mind

inwardly over over the unconscious mind and force it to react again to you

and force it to react again to you because you're not

because you're not receiving and you know the other thing

receiving and you know the other thing we say is you must learn to receive and

we say is you must learn to receive and then follow what you follow is the

then follow what you follow is the meaning of what you receive which

meaning of what you receive which redirects your action in the world into

redirects your action in the world into adaptation so receiving and then

adaptation so receiving and then following by accepting understanding is

following by accepting understanding is transpersonal it's non- egoo it's bigger

transpersonal it's non- egoo it's bigger than that and that's very um polite to

than that and that's very um polite to do when something as powerful as the

do when something as powerful as the unconscious mind is said we've sorted

unconscious mind is said we've sorted this I give that to you that's the

this I give that to you that's the conclusion of this experience of your

conclusion of this experience of your whole being and the mistake then would

whole being and the mistake then would be well no that's not right I want to

be well no that's not right I want to understand this cognitively I want to

understand this cognitively I want to analyze it and break it down and it's

analyze it and break it down and it's like what the heck have you done you've

like what the heck have you done you've just screwed it up again you can't

just screwed it up again you can't receive that's what an ego that exceeds

receive that's what an ego that exceeds its boundaries of proper operation will

its boundaries of proper operation will do particularly if it's encouraged to do

do particularly if it's encouraged to do so through an emphasis on cognition or

so through an emphasis on cognition or it's told as I mentioned just before by

it's told as I mentioned just before by some well meaning but misinformed

some well meaning but misinformed psychoanalyst that you can't do that you

psychoanalyst that you can't do that you have to feel it feeling makes you

have to feel it feeling makes you conscious feeling is independence of

conscious feeling is independence of Consciousness within the ego because

Consciousness within the ego because feeling can feel all by itself it is a

feeling can feel all by itself it is a representation of information that is

representation of information that is systematized that does not have to be

systematized that does not have to be connected to the ago and does not have

connected to the ago and does not have to be somatized it can self-regulate

to be somatized it can self-regulate within the wider field of H stasis that

within the wider field of H stasis that is something that many of the

is something that many of the Contemporary neuros pycho analysts need

Contemporary neuros pycho analysts need to understand in my

view it redefines Consciousness doesn't it it does it does it shifts it away

it it does it does it shifts it away from only an ago phenomenon

from only an ago phenomenon yeah you were going to say no it's okay

yeah you were going to say no it's okay it's it's it's um it's a separate point

it's it's it's um it's a separate point but maybe an important one to to do with

but maybe an important one to to do with the significance of creativity in

the significance of creativity in healing trauma uh it's an example really

healing trauma uh it's an example really and and given that we're we're only I

and and given that we're we're only I think what's the date today the 12th um

think what's the date today the 12th um a day away from the events of

a day away from the events of 911 and um it's just an example really

911 and um it's just an example really of a of a lady who survived the collapse

of a of a lady who survived the collapse of the Twin Towers I can't remember

of the Twin Towers I can't remember which when she was in but I know she was

which when she was in but I know she was on The 91st

on The 91st floor uh of the Twin Towers uh when they

floor uh of the Twin Towers uh when they they were struck and the interesting

they were struck and the interesting thing for me in in in her story um was

thing for me in in in her story um was that on the morning of the event um she

that on the morning of the event um she was in her pal which apparently was was

was in her pal which apparently was was quite close uh to the towers um painting

quite close uh to the towers um painting a picture of the um of the skyline of

a picture of the um of the skyline of the Manhattan

the Manhattan skyline uh at sunrise

skyline uh at sunrise and after she survived uh you know post

and after she survived uh you know post the Twin Towers coming down and and her

the Twin Towers coming down and and her guessing beyond the you know the

guessing beyond the you know the immediate trauma of what had happened to

immediate trauma of what had happened to her um she subsequently found out that

her um she subsequently found out that her apartment had been damaged you know

her apartment had been damaged you know in the in sort of the the blast wave as

in the in sort of the the blast wave as the as the buildings came down and also

the as the buildings came down and also the painting that she'd started on the

the painting that she'd started on the morning prior to it happening had been

morning prior to it happening had been destroyed as well and the interesting

destroyed as well and the interesting thing for me was that uh literally when

thing for me was that uh literally when the dust had settled and she actually um

the dust had settled and she actually um she moved back home to uh her family

she moved back home to uh her family which I think was in

which I think was in Scotland uh one of the first things she

Scotland uh one of the first things she did on returning home was to return to

did on returning home was to return to the the painting that she was doing on

the the painting that she was doing on the morning prior to the event so she

the morning prior to the event so she recre yes she recreated the painting the

recre yes she recreated the painting the sunrise on the Manhattan skyline as if

sunrise on the Manhattan skyline as if the events of 911 never happened and

the events of 911 never happened and there was a kind of a a a seamless shift

there was a kind of a a a seamless shift or moving on or leap frogging over the

or moving on or leap frogging over the trauma itself Beyond this and into the

trauma itself Beyond this and into the future and and her life clearly just

future and and her life clearly just like with the lady that we were

like with the lady that we were discussing earlier developed on from

discussing earlier developed on from there and she got married and she had

there and she got married and she had children of her own and and so on and so

children of her own and and so on and so they were generally speaking there was a

they were generally speaking there was a good outcome but that idea of of using

good outcome but that idea of of using art uh or any creative medium for that

art uh or any creative medium for that matter which allows you to dissociate

matter which allows you to dissociate and enter an alter State of

and enter an alter State of Consciousness a trans-like state in

Consciousness a trans-like state in order to bring something forward which

order to bring something forward which is healing uh that allows you to move

is healing uh that allows you to move Beyond trauma I think is also a very

Beyond trauma I think is also a very important part of all of this and and

important part of all of this and and something really that we can we can all

something really that we can we can all do to some extent we can all be creative

do to some extent we can all be creative we can all uh use creativity to our

we can all uh use creativity to our advantage I mean we've certainly used it

advantage I mean we've certainly used it clinically a lot um but it doesn't have

clinically a lot um but it doesn't have to be in that setting and she was

to be in that setting and she was obviously a professional artist so she

obviously a professional artist so she actually returned to that anyway uh but

actually returned to that anyway uh but that was I just thought that was so

that was I just thought that was so interesting she almost didn't really

interesting she almost didn't really want to to dwell I mean this this was um

want to to dwell I mean this this was um a television program about the event she

a television program about the event she didn't really want to dwell on the

didn't really want to dwell on the Escape even necessarily although she

Escape even necessarily although she gave an account of it what was important

gave an account of it what was important to her was that you know moment when she

to her was that you know moment when she realized she had to recreate that piece

realized she had to recreate that piece of art and so going forward with more

of art and so going forward with more important and going back you said

important and going back you said earlier to the

earlier to the immediate a

immediate a priori yeah before before the event and

priori yeah before before the event and then yeah leap frogging over it yes and

then yeah leap frogging over it yes and that is as you say how the psyche seems

that is as you say how the psyche seems under natural conditions of optimization

under natural conditions of optimization wants to do things yeah it doesn't want

wants to do things yeah it doesn't want to go back and be stuck there and to go

to go back and be stuck there and to go through that and her not wanting to

through that and her not wanting to relive the actual Escape element and the

relive the actual Escape element and the trauma of that but to go back to

trauma of that but to go back to something in order to move forward yeah

something in order to move forward yeah that's exactly congruent

that's exactly congruent isn't it with what I was saying earlier

isn't it with what I was saying earlier about the way the psyche generates for

about the way the psyche generates for example play around

example play around military speaking activities and

military speaking activities and preparations I've worked with a lot of

preparations I've worked with a lot of military and law enforcement veterans

military and law enforcement veterans and U understanding that has been hugely

and U understanding that has been hugely important for them and you get things

important for them and you get things like dissociative identity disorder

like dissociative identity disorder coming out from veterans who have

coming out from veterans who have divided by seeing the other as being

divided by seeing the other as being them and they're suddenly two people and

them and they're suddenly two people and that relativizes everything that they

that relativizes everything that they could be on the other side they could be

could be on the other side they could be them killing them or vice versa and they

them killing them or vice versa and they have the same patriotic beliefs or sense

have the same patriotic beliefs or sense of purpose and suddenly it's like why

of purpose and suddenly it's like why are we in Conflict but and they find

are we in Conflict but and they find that some of them dissociative and it is

that some of them dissociative and it is but belief the dissociation is the point

but belief the dissociation is the point of contact which is some is trying to

of contact which is some is trying to say there's a common Humanity there is

say there's a common Humanity there is and a common experience which is trying

and a common experience which is trying to heal the split but the split is

to heal the split but the split is should be a temporary representation of

should be a temporary representation of the healing which continues post trauma

the healing which continues post trauma after the fighting is over after the war

after the fighting is over after the war and the hatred are no longer needed for

and the hatred are no longer needed for any biological purpose and the need to

any biological purpose and the need to to to further adapt um but if those

to to further adapt um but if those people are treated

people are treated wrongly then that Gap will widen uh and

wrongly then that Gap will widen uh and a lack of understanding about how the

a lack of understanding about how the psyche wants to optimize itself through

psyche wants to optimize itself through homeostasis is the major cause of

homeostasis is the major cause of widening the split uh even calling it

widening the split uh even calling it associative Identity or or something

associative Identity or or something similar to that in those circumstances

similar to that in those circumstances is dangerous in my view we should always

is dangerous in my view we should always look at the the healing function that's

look at the the healing function that's coming through and from what you said

coming through and from what you said that lady did that probably without any

that lady did that probably without any external help it just AR out it yes it

external help it just AR out it yes it did it absolutely and I mean even the

did it absolutely and I mean even the the content you know the idea of a

the content you know the idea of a sunrise um the anticipation of a new day

sunrise um the anticipation of a new day and she she literally lives to see

and she she literally lives to see another day another day um and um you

another day another day um and um you know that's so powerful isn't it a

know that's so powerful isn't it a representation of life going on of of

representation of life going on of of the continuation of Life forward into

the continuation of Life forward into the future despite everything that that

the future despite everything that that had happened yeah yeah

yeah across this video we've explored the nature of trauma in particular

the nature of trauma in particular psychosomatic trans ctions as a

psychosomatic trans ctions as a downstream effect or a representation of

downstream effect or a representation of trauma and we've walked through two case

trauma and we've walked through two case studies that are very very different on

studies that are very very different on that front and have very different

that front and have very different representations of what trauma could be

representations of what trauma could be and obviously a theme throughout this

and obviously a theme throughout this video has been your guys's prediction

video has been your guys's prediction stepen Pauline of this coming

stepen Pauline of this coming psychosomatic storm and many people

psychosomatic storm and many people watching this are probably going to be

watching this are probably going to be and very rightly wondering how can they

and very rightly wondering how can they avoid being pulled into a psychosomatic

avoid being pulled into a psychosomatic storm there are three phases to this

storm there are three phases to this really and each

really and each describes what we know either in advance

describes what we know either in advance what we notice whilst it's happening or

what we notice whilst it's happening or how we respond after it's

how we respond after it's happened and fundamentally it's about

happened and fundamentally it's about what we call OST

what we call OST strength and that fundamentally is about

strength and that fundamentally is about homostasis or self-regulation so in

homostasis or self-regulation so in other words we can maintain our

other words we can maintain our integrity functionally as a

integrity functionally as a psychological psychobiological and bioc

psychological psychobiological and bioc psychosocial organism without undue

psychosocial organism without undue influence from others of course that's a

influence from others of course that's a technical way of saying that we

technical way of saying that we basically keep ourselves together under

basically keep ourselves together under pressure from the

pressure from the environments uh and under pressure of

environments uh and under pressure of our own ideas and our own conditioning

our own ideas and our own conditioning and also how up until that point those

and also how up until that point those variables may have affected the way that

variables may have affected the way that our body responds to our mind and to our

our body responds to our mind and to our environment and we talk a lot about

environment and we talk a lot about suggestion suggestion is influence

suggestion suggestion is influence influence is the exchange of energy and

influence is the exchange of energy and information that's all it is between

information that's all it is between systems human systems systems within

systems human systems systems within humans uh systems between humans so that

humans uh systems between humans so that it extends right out from the level of

it extends right out from the level of the individual up to the highest level

the individual up to the highest level of register bioc psychosocially so

of register bioc psychosocially so that's the culture and even into the

that's the culture and even into the natural environments because when that's

natural environments because when that's affected that has an influence on us

affected that has an influence on us psychologically because we make

psychologically because we make psychological models about our

psychological models about our understanding of the environment so

understanding of the environment so taking all of that that into account

taking all of that that into account then if we are unprepared we don't know

then if we are unprepared we don't know that something's going to happen and we

that something's going to happen and we can't make a prediction that makes us

can't make a prediction that makes us vulnerable because we then enter into a

vulnerable because we then enter into a new phase of demand for adaptation with

new phase of demand for adaptation with a very porous sense of identity sense of

a very porous sense of identity sense of self and sense of boundary and if our

self and sense of boundary and if our previous conditioning makes us

previous conditioning makes us vulnerable to suggestion then we can

vulnerable to suggestion then we can take on board things at a relatively low

take on board things at a relatively low level of influence but once they're

level of influence but once they're internalized they can start to acre

internalized they can start to acre later suggestions to them and then as a

later suggestions to them and then as a split off complex that can start to

split off complex that can start to occupy various systems levels within our

occupy various systems levels within our own being and then interpersonally in

own being and then interpersonally in the sense of our behavior and then

the sense of our behavior and then beyond into the culture we become

beyond into the culture we become participants in something which is

participants in something which is oxidizing for our culture as a home or

oxidizing for our culture as a home or even our species that can happen so

even our species that can happen so being able to predict things in advance

being able to predict things in advance and prepare ourselves will be very

and prepare ourselves will be very important so how do we do that well we

important so how do we do that well we have to recognize what influence and

have to recognize what influence and suggestion is we have to recognize the

suggestion is we have to recognize the limits of our own extension the proper

limits of our own extension the proper limits across which that we can maintain

limits across which that we can maintain our homeostasis our internal Milo and

our homeostasis our internal Milo and also our psychosocial

also our psychosocial boundary and once we've got that then we

boundary and once we've got that then we can afford to make virtual models and

can afford to make virtual models and anticipations of the future what the

anticipations of the future what the neuros analyst called predictions are

neuros analyst called predictions are they model a lot of Psychopathology on

they model a lot of Psychopathology on making prediction errors about things

making prediction errors about things and those prediction errors were based

and those prediction errors were based on earlier conditioning or even innate

on earlier conditioning or even innate systems that we we've inherited to

systems that we we've inherited to anticipate life uh and then we get stuck

anticipate life uh and then we get stuck and we we go into a repetition

and we we go into a repetition compulsion of trying to make the old way

compulsion of trying to make the old way of understanding work in the face of a

of understanding work in the face of a new demand for

new demand for adaptation but the problem with that

adaptation but the problem with that amongst many other things is that we end

amongst many other things is that we end up reinforcing the suggestions that

up reinforcing the suggestions that we've internalized by not being able to

we've internalized by not being able to deal with them uh and as we said earlier

deal with them uh and as we said earlier in the video that that can generate

in the video that that can generate neurosis and it can go on and cause all

neurosis and it can go on and cause all sorts of other problems so learning what

sorts of other problems so learning what suggestion and influence

suggestion and influence are that's automatically EG

are that's automatically EG strengthening when we don't know how we

strengthening when we don't know how we can be influenced we can't prevent

can be influenced we can't prevent ourselves from being unduly

ourselves from being unduly influenced so that that's the first and

influenced so that that's the first and and this really is a truism across the

and this really is a truism across the the whole bandwidth of human relating

the whole bandwidth of human relating interpersonal relating and internally

interpersonal relating and internally relating as well who or what is

relating as well who or what is influencing us where did my beliefs and

influencing us where did my beliefs and my understanding come from uh is my

my understanding come from uh is my modeling of the world vicarious does it

modeling of the world vicarious does it come through third parties or is this

come through third parties or is this based on actual substantive individual

based on actual substantive individual pressure tested learning and it's that

pressure tested learning and it's that latter which gives us our best ego

latter which gives us our best ego strength we have to be pre tested in the

strength we have to be pre tested in the world in order to have boundaries which

world in order to have boundaries which are stable enough and flexible enough as

are stable enough and flexible enough as well to meet

well to meet demands so that's the first thing we've

demands so that's the first thing we've got to build OST strength I was well we

got to build OST strength I was well we were both asked Paul and I by a

were both asked Paul and I by a professor of

professor of Psychiatry what was his ago strength and

Psychiatry what was his ago strength and he didn't know so we had to tell him

he didn't know so we had to tell him that it was homeostasis and he didn't

that it was homeostasis and he didn't seem to understand what that was butas

seem to understand what that was butas homeostasis is self- regulation it's

homeostasis is self- regulation it's making sure that we stay in a state

making sure that we stay in a state where we can use utilize our biology and

where we can use utilize our biology and our metabolism efficiently but also our

our metabolism efficiently but also our psychology and our psychosocial

psychology and our psychosocial relationships in other words we are a

relationships in other words we are a balanced functional adaptive human

balanced functional adaptive human organism that's homeostasis operating at

organism that's homeostasis operating at many different levels and really if

many different levels and really if Medics don't understand that then they

Medics don't understand that then they haven't got much to fall back on other

haven't got much to fall back on other than perhaps cognition as a form of

than perhaps cognition as a form of rehabilitative therapy or pharmacology

rehabilitative therapy or pharmacology as a form of blunting a person's

as a form of blunting a person's experience of life including of

experience of life including of themselves

themselves so that's obviously something we need to

so that's obviously something we need to avoid because through both

avoid because through both pharmacological methods and cognitive

pharmacological methods and cognitive methods we can receive suggestion and we

methods we can receive suggestion and we can receive a more of influence from the

can receive a more of influence from the culture so whichever direction the

culture so whichever direction the culture is going in in other words the

culture is going in in other words the Zeitgeist as young would have called it

Zeitgeist as young would have called it the dominant elements within that are

the dominant elements within that are going to be the dominant forces of

going to be the dominant forces of influence and suggestion that will be

influence and suggestion that will be aimed at us and if we want to prevent a

aimed at us and if we want to prevent a psychosomatic storm

psychosomatic storm of inability to respond appropriately to

of inability to respond appropriately to coming pressures we have to have ego

coming pressures we have to have ego strength that's the first and most

strength that's the first and most important step and the first and most

important step and the first and most important part of that is being able to

important part of that is being able to make proper predictions in advance it

make proper predictions in advance it doesn't matter if you make a 100 plans

doesn't matter if you make a 100 plans for example about how to deal with the

for example about how to deal with the possibilities of the future 99 of them

possibilities of the future 99 of them are never used as long as one is and

are never used as long as one is and that's good enough you will get through

that's good enough you will get through uh of course of course you also need not

uh of course of course you also need not to become paranoid in the sense of

to become paranoid in the sense of seeing problems where they're unlikely

seeing problems where they're unlikely to occur or overreact to people in a

to occur or overreact to people in a paranoid way um it it has to be reality

paranoid way um it it has to be reality tested and where there is little EG

tested and where there is little EG strength you're more likely to feel

strength you're more likely to feel paranoia where that you have adequate EG

paranoia where that you have adequate EG strength you're not going to develop

strength you're not going to develop parano you're going to be interested in

parano you're going to be interested in reality orientated pressure testing and

reality orientated pressure testing and understand understanding of the

understand understanding of the environment within which you are

environment within which you are required to

required to adapt so that is the first step EG

adapt so that is the first step EG strength but even more so only than that

strength but even more so only than that being able to make proper predictions

being able to make proper predictions for changes and challenges in adaptation

for changes and challenges in adaptation that are forthcoming relatively

that are forthcoming relatively imminently so that's a kind of a broad

imminently so that's a kind of a broad ground state isn't it approach to

ground state isn't it approach to resisting influence and suggestion both

resisting influence and suggestion both from internal pressure that that arises

from internal pressure that that arises from within and also as you say from

from within and also as you say from without from the environment I was just

without from the environment I was just wondering about um the fundamentals of

wondering about um the fundamentals of character and personality as well uh in

character and personality as well uh in individual people because it does seem

individual people because it does seem that some people are better at resisting

that some people are better at resisting influence and and suggestion than others

influence and and suggestion than others and back in the day I know uh Pier Jan

and back in the day I know uh Pier Jan um spoke about um

um spoke about um docility and um people who are more

docility and um people who are more docile than others might become or be

docile than others might become or be more

more suggestible uh than people who are not

suggestible uh than people who are not set that way so there are other elements

set that way so there are other elements obviously of course to this that we need

obviously of course to this that we need to be aware of as well and you know so

to be aware of as well and you know so people who are maybe docile or gentle by

people who are maybe docile or gentle by nature and want to get on with people

nature and want to get on with people some people might just describe them as

some people might just describe them as being um

being um I I can I'm thinking of a a Canadian uh

I I can I'm thinking of a a Canadian uh psychologist at the moment and it's

psychologist at the moment and it's unfortunate Association but the idea of

unfortunate Association but the idea of agreeableness of some people wanting to

agreeableness of some people wanting to get on more with other people wanting to

get on more with other people wanting to people please if you like might be more

people please if you like might be more vulnerable to influence and suggestion

vulnerable to influence and suggestion than somebody who's not configured in

than somebody who's not configured in that way so from a younger perspective

that way so from a younger perspective that would be extroverted feel it would

that would be extroverted feel it would absolutely it would beion tend to model

absolutely it would beion tend to model that yes um but but sociability

that yes um but but sociability sociability better putting it in Broad

sociability better putting it in Broad terms yes yes and onean thing to

terms yes yes and onean thing to facilitate others be an empath that kind

facilitate others be an empath that kind of thing these are the kind of terms

of thing these are the kind of terms that that get used a lot at the moment

that that get used a lot at the moment um but people who care for others in a

um but people who care for others in a panpan sense perhaps um and that's very

panpan sense perhaps um and that's very very proud that's forward uh in their

very proud that's forward uh in their nature you're mentioning fundamentals of

nature you're mentioning fundamentals of nature that's right yeah you combine

nature that's right yeah you combine those

those elements to any degree of of

elements to any degree of of significance between them you're likely

significance between them you're likely to get somebody who is going to be more

to get somebody who is going to be more easily influenced

easily influenced negatively um and you know you could

negatively um and you know you could bring Freud's concept of the super ego

bring Freud's concept of the super ego or super ego in there as well because

or super ego in there as well because people who identify with that at a

people who identify with that at a collective level will be busy trying to

collective level will be busy trying to do the right thing by what they

do the right thing by what they understand is morality um but if the if

understand is morality um but if the if the morality itself is an illusion and I

the morality itself is an illusion and I at a cultural political level yes

at a cultural political level yes because it's being manipulated yeah then

because it's being manipulated yeah then there is the suggestion so the EO

there is the suggestion so the EO strength then I think for someone like

strength then I think for someone like that has to be

that has to be evaluative this is what young men by

evaluative this is what young men by feeling of course is an evaluation to

feeling of course is an evaluation to say and to discriminate and say that the

say and to discriminate and say that the influence in the culture whatever it's

influence in the culture whatever it's appearance seems to be and the real

appearance seems to be and the real benefit for people other people than

benefit for people other people than ourselves are variance from one another

ourselves are variance from one another so something is disguised as being one

so something is disguised as being one thing when actually it's not that and if

thing when actually it's not that and if you can make that discrimination you can

you can make that discrimination you can begin to protect yourself if you're that

begin to protect yourself if you're that kind of person yeah um I me I know

kind of person yeah um I me I know extroverted feeling types

extroverted feeling types who are so accepting of human nature up

who are so accepting of human nature up to a point uh and once the

to a point uh and once the Discrimination has come on and they've

Discrimination has come on and they've realized that this person is not who

realized that this person is not who they seen or their motivation is um so

they seen or their motivation is um so bad that it can't be changed it's

bad that it can't be changed it's irrevocable it can't be fixed then the

irrevocable it can't be fixed then the approach to that person is reversed yes

approach to that person is reversed yes in essence

in essence anyway um and and that's a form of of

anyway um and and that's a form of of mature use of that configuration of

mature use of that configuration of personality but um it it's one aspect of

personality but um it it's one aspect of I think of you say Paul of protecting

I think of you say Paul of protecting yourself against that is that ability to

yourself against that is that ability to discriminate between what is genuine and

discriminate between what is genuine and what is not

what is not uh because those who seek to manipulate

uh because those who seek to manipulate others always conceal their true intent

others always conceal their true intent and um almost as if they're trained in

and um almost as if they're trained in hypnosis but it's a natural cing

hypnosis but it's a natural cing probably yeah they have got scop people

probably yeah they have got scop people who work for them of course um but they

who work for them of course um but they will use uh

will use uh incremental uh conditioning and

incremental uh conditioning and incremental uh presentation of things

incremental uh presentation of things which are disguised so that when they

which are disguised so that when they are accepted then the the population at

are accepted then the the population at the broadest level that agree with the

the broadest level that agree with the suggestion start to go along with it

suggestion start to go along with it incrementally and there comes a point

incrementally and there comes a point when that pacing becomes leading and at

when that pacing becomes leading and at the point that it is leading they don't

the point that it is leading they don't notice that they have been changed that

notice that they have been changed that they have been influenced by

they have been influenced by incrementally accepting various levels

incrementally accepting various levels of s of suggestion negative suggestion

of s of suggestion negative suggestion um so to sharpen your perceptions so

um so to sharpen your perceptions so you're aware of that and how these

you're aware of that and how these things can be modeled this is why we say

things can be modeled this is why we say for example by the liido shall you know

for example by the liido shall you know them

them um so when you're dealing with

um so when you're dealing with politicians and um you have the the

politicians and um you have the the representation that they give off

representation that they give off usually inflated to the young level you

usually inflated to the young level you know of an ideology that's based on some

know of an ideology that's based on some kind of political

kind of political goodness that you can be absolutely sure

goodness that you can be absolutely sure that that is not the truth of that of

that that is not the truth of that of that person or the people behind them or

that person or the people behind them or of their intentionality so when you met

of their intentionality so when you met with that you need to drop down to the

with that you need to drop down to the level of understanding

level of understanding arler arler and and believe him nature

arler arler and and believe him nature the will to

the will to power and Ben that Freud and Darwin to

power and Ben that Freud and Darwin to do with gratification their

do with gratification their gratification the collapse of everything

gratification the collapse of everything into meeting their Freudian and

into meeting their Freudian and darwinian needs which first of all

darwinian needs which first of all assumes the the the representation of

assumes the the the representation of power and then that power is elevated to

power and then that power is elevated to a spiritual or moral level which

a spiritual or moral level which disguises it so you have to know what

disguises it so you have to know what you're seeing and this is true

you're seeing and this is true interpersonally as well but it's

interpersonally as well but it's particularly problematical at the

particularly problematical at the collective level because so many people

collective level because so many people are going to be affected by it so by the

are going to be affected by it so by the liido shall ye know them what are they

liido shall ye know them what are they doing not so much what they're saying

doing not so much what they're saying what's the intentionality how is it

what's the intentionality how is it being delivered where is the pacing

being delivered where is the pacing where is the leading uh and what you

where is the leading uh and what you will find is that they are most

will find is that they are most economical when they manipulate

economical when they manipulate instincts because as we said before

instincts because as we said before cognition can be resisted because it's

cognition can be resisted because it's one idea and you can have opposite of

one idea and you can have opposite of that idea and then you have a third idea

that idea and then you have a third idea and then another opposite you can go on

and then another opposite you can go on forever that's an uneconomical way of

forever that's an uneconomical way of influencing people uh what they need to

influencing people uh what they need to do to meet their gratifying uh need for

do to meet their gratifying uh need for power and other things that come with

power and other things that come with that is that they have to mislead other

that is that they have to mislead other people's instincts so they control

people's instincts so they control themselves they do it to themselves

themselves they do it to themselves because fundamental instincts are

because fundamental instincts are default

default settings and because we are social we

settings and because we are social we will look for security in the reaction

will look for security in the reaction of the group to which we belong or

of the group to which we belong or identify with if they all agree it's

identify with if they all agree it's safer to agree with them uh so we can be

safer to agree with them uh so we can be paced and lad through the misdirection

paced and lad through the misdirection of instincts to meet the libidinous

of instincts to meet the libidinous drive power drive of people who are into

drive power drive of people who are into their own gratification and they will

their own gratification and they will represent themselves any which way they

represent themselves any which way they can to manipulate us so being able to

can to manipulate us so being able to identify that uh will help you to make

identify that uh will help you to make prediction errors uh reduced um so that

prediction errors uh reduced um so that that's the Preparatory stage and then

that's the Preparatory stage and then you move on to what happens if you wake

you move on to what happens if you wake up when it's already under way that

up when it's already under way that would be the next stage a lot of the

would be the next stage a lot of the things that were coming to my mind were

things that were coming to my mind were simply things we've spoken about before

simply things we've spoken about before the necessity to separate oneself off

the necessity to separate oneself off from the influence and suggestion they

from the influence and suggestion they may have already had and accumulated

may have already had and accumulated across time whether that's influence

across time whether that's influence from internet gurus but strangely enough

from internet gurus but strangely enough uh it was typology that was crossing my

uh it was typology that was crossing my mind a lot there someone's influenced by

mind a lot there someone's influenced by typology even though that's going to be

typology even though that's going to be a relatively small subset of the

a relatively small subset of the population yes and that would stop you

population yes and that would stop you doing any of the stuff that you guys

doing any of the stuff that you guys have just said when you were mentioning

have just said when you were mentioning y's feeling function as really being

y's feeling function as really being this this evaluation and people do need

this this evaluation and people do need to make an AFF effect toned evaluation

to make an AFF effect toned evaluation of how they may be being manipulated by

of how they may be being manipulated by aspects of the culture if they're locked

aspects of the culture if they're locked into believing they are one way or

into believing they are one way or another whatever that happens to be

another whatever that happens to be whatever complex is active from across

whatever complex is active from across their timeline it's not going to happen

their timeline it's not going to happen and they're already trapped so some some

and they're already trapped so some some kind auditing process on perhaps a

kind auditing process on perhaps a personal myth process on that maybe yeah

personal myth process on that maybe yeah would you agree with that personal myth

would you agree with that personal myth process is super important because if

process is super important because if we've done that we are prepared yes yes

we've done that we are prepared yes yes yes we are I was just thinking actually

yes we are I was just thinking actually too because it' be easy to just simply

too because it' be easy to just simply if if we're going down um so the

if if we're going down um so the classical yungan understanding of of

classical yungan understanding of of type Theory then the the and and uh

type Theory then the the and and uh dovetailing that with our kind of

dovetailing that with our kind of updated understanding of uh metalia of

updated understanding of uh metalia of Consciousness then there is an advantage

Consciousness then there is an advantage too uh in being that way um so for

too uh in being that way um so for example you know extroverted feeling

example you know extroverted feeling types as they would be according to say

types as they would be according to say something like the Myers Briggs type

something like the Myers Briggs type inventory uh are closer by nature to

inventory uh are closer by nature to um feeling or or affect in that

um feeling or or affect in that instinctive sense as well so that also

instinctive sense as well so that also means that they are closer to ground

means that they are closer to ground state intuition and so I think for

state intuition and so I think for people who are configured that way I

people who are configured that way I don't mean as in you know um some kind

don't mean as in you know um some kind of TR explanation that's done on the

of TR explanation that's done on the Myas Briggs but people who are more

Myas Briggs but people who are more inclined that way by Nature can use

inclined that way by Nature can use their their feeling and their intuition

their their feeling and their intuition in that other sense to Advantage so

in that other sense to Advantage so people like that maybe have to trust

people like that maybe have to trust their gut instinct more rather than

their gut instinct more rather than having some kind of uh analytical or

having some kind of uh analytical or cognitive appraisal of a situation it

cognitive appraisal of a situation it may be important for them to say well on

may be important for them to say well on this one I'm going to go with my gut I

this one I'm going to go with my gut I really I feel really uncomfortable with

really I feel really uncomfortable with this situation or this person I'm

this situation or this person I'm talking to uh something is just not

talking to uh something is just not right it doesn't sit well with me uh I'm

right it doesn't sit well with me uh I'm not quite sure what that is at the

not quite sure what that is at the moment can't distill it out completely

moment can't distill it out completely but I know I'm uncomfortable with it and

but I know I'm uncomfortable with it and it they can then use that that to their

it they can then use that that to their advantage that the way that they're

advantage that the way that they're configured already to their advantage

configured already to their advantage rather than trying to become something

rather than trying to become something else and becoming too cognitively

else and becoming too cognitively collapsed and think and thinking to

collapsed and think and thinking to themselves well really I should just

themselves well really I should just maybe ruminate about this a little bit

maybe ruminate about this a little bit more and you know it'll become clear

more and you know it'll become clear what the solution is I think they should

what the solution is I think they should actually use what they already have to

actually use what they already have to their advantage as a skill set so um

their advantage as a skill set so um that that just might be a way to think

that that just might be a way to think about it for people who are you know

about it for people who are you know more agreeable by Nature uh more wanting

more agreeable by Nature uh more wanting to um to get along with other people and

to um to get along with other people and uh are likely

uh are likely to leave their intuition behind if

to leave their intuition behind if they're not careful they need to keep

they're not careful they need to keep that with them and uh I I think that's a

that with them and uh I I think that's a great way of uh staying safe really uh

great way of uh staying safe really uh and um you know it's it's an innate

and um you know it's it's an innate thing that we all have of course but

thing that we all have of course but um I think if you configured that way I

um I think if you configured that way I think you can use that to your

think you can use that to your advantage yeah I think um once you know

advantage yeah I think um once you know something's happened to you that that

something's happened to you that that that that's when your innate nature will

that that's when your innate nature will come

come online if you can prepare in advance

online if you can prepare in advance then you probably bring online more than

then you probably bring online more than you would normally use and then make

you would normally use and then make that efficiently available for you yeah

that efficiently available for you yeah but if you haven't had you haven't built

but if you haven't had you haven't built that model of understanding and of

that model of understanding and of interpretation ahead of the event and

interpretation ahead of the event and you're forced to adapt true then you

you're forced to adapt true then you need to go into what you already have um

need to go into what you already have um if you model uh conversely on what you

if you model uh conversely on what you already have you are only going to be as

already have you are only going to be as prepared as you ever have been to

prepared as you ever have been to receive any kind of influence or

receive any kind of influence or suggestion that's ever occurred before

suggestion that's ever occurred before so in other words if you successfully

so in other words if you successfully navigated um

navigated um malediction uh and negative influence

malediction uh and negative influence people in the past okay then you have an

people in the past okay then you have an implicit model that's going to work

implicit model that's going to work reasonably well but if you have not and

reasonably well but if you have not and if you're likely to be misled then you

if you're likely to be misled then you need to extend that if possible in

need to extend that if possible in advance of it being

advance of it being overwhelmed uh or you suddenly becoming

overwhelmed uh or you suddenly becoming aware that something has happened but

aware that something has happened but then if we move into the the next phase

then if we move into the the next phase which is it's happened I haven't noticed

which is it's happened I haven't noticed or it is happening and I'm only just

or it is happening and I'm only just noticing which is really the proper uh

noticing which is really the proper uh domain for the this middle phase then

domain for the this middle phase then you to augment what you you've had

you to augment what you you've had because you have to pressure test your

because you have to pressure test your own model and this is the thing about

own model and this is the thing about about uh in my view about EG strength is

about uh in my view about EG strength is that whatever's carried us forward so

that whatever's carried us forward so far may not be the best adaptive uh

far may not be the best adaptive uh approach for new conditions we can

approach for new conditions we can certainly look at it but rather than be

certainly look at it but rather than be bewildered that can happen to any

bewildered that can happen to any configuration of Personality be

configuration of Personality be bewildered because it's not worked I it

bewildered because it's not worked I it has you have to say well what have I

has you have to say well what have I what am I not

what am I not using and for that rather than type

using and for that rather than type ultim you should go through Instinct me

ultim you should go through Instinct me which is what you're saying go Instinct

which is what you're saying go Instinct go instinct is a representation of other

go instinct is a representation of other things which take that representational

things which take that representational form because they're not cognitive

form because they're not cognitive they're not necessarily affect they

they're not necessarily affect they become sematic there a reaction at a

become sematic there a reaction at a sematic level which we interpret as

sematic level which we interpret as Instinct because it isn't cognitive and

Instinct because it isn't cognitive and it isn't uh an affect in the yion sense

it isn't uh an affect in the yion sense of a feeling term quality so he say go

of a feeling term quality so he say go Instinct that is something that I have

Instinct that is something that I have to reconvert to make it cognition

to reconvert to make it cognition perhaps it's not always the best way to

perhaps it's not always the best way to deal with go Instinct but if if we're

deal with go Instinct but if if we're trying to make a model to understand it

trying to make a model to understand it at a cognitive level then that's that's

at a cognitive level then that's that's what we would need to do but

what we would need to do but fundamentally that representation is

fundamentally that representation is instinctive and it's at that point the

instinctive and it's at that point the cognition has to default back to

cognition has to default back to instinct to get itself updated so what

instinct to get itself updated so what I'm saying is the cognition can realize

I'm saying is the cognition can realize something is wrong uh realize that its

something is wrong uh realize that its own adaptation this thus far may not

own adaptation this thus far may not have been

have been working um it receives an impression

working um it receives an impression somatically through what we can call a

somatically through what we can call a gos Instinct but the calling of the go

gos Instinct but the calling of the go Instinct suggest is an instinctive

Instinct suggest is an instinctive understanding that is beyond cognition

understanding that is beyond cognition that is Laten within it symbolically so

that is Laten within it symbolically so if we get into Instinct proper then we

if we get into Instinct proper then we have a lot of advantages because we move

have a lot of advantages because we move out of the time and the space that we

out of the time and the space that we occupy now we go back to ancestral

occupy now we go back to ancestral wisdom we're in the ancestral psyche

wisdom we're in the ancestral psyche we're similar enough things have been

we're similar enough things have been experienced in the past and have been

experienced in the past and have been dealt with and the solutions are highly

dealt with and the solutions are highly conserved and are latent within the

conserved and are latent within the genome for us to access through a

genome for us to access through a dialectical interaction with instinct

dialectical interaction with instinct when that happens our personality can

when that happens our personality can change we can be properly

change we can be properly updated um by learning how to receive

updated um by learning how to receive that ancestral preparation and wisdom

that ancestral preparation and wisdom directly from the genome otherwise uh

directly from the genome otherwise uh that ancestral wisdom will turn up as

that ancestral wisdom will turn up as anxi

anxi as a drive State insisting that we do

as a drive State insisting that we do something and of course those who wish

something and of course those who wish to negatively influence us will want us

to negatively influence us will want us to feel anxiety and fail at solving that

to feel anxiety and fail at solving that drive pressure they would want us to

drive pressure they would want us to collapse into depression or a

collapse into depression or a conservation withdrawal a giving in and

conservation withdrawal a giving in and then an adaptation to the negative

then an adaptation to the negative suggestion that's coming from the top

suggestion that's coming from the top down they would want that they would

down they would want that they would want us to fail at the level of

want us to fail at the level of understanding instincts delivery system

understanding instincts delivery system Instinct delivery system when it comes

Instinct delivery system when it comes out in full force because our ego is not

out in full force because our ego is not understanding what it's up against is

understanding what it's up against is experienced as anxiety as a drive state

experienced as anxiety as a drive state so if you know how to contact it and

so if you know how to contact it and we've covered this in some recent videos

we've covered this in some recent videos um then you will receive the update that

um then you will receive the update that you need from your genome in a

you need from your genome in a non-cognitive way that will pass through

non-cognitive way that will pass through various stages of representation and

various stages of representation and then a similation into the ago that will

then a similation into the ago that will prepare it and give it the strength and

prepare it and give it the strength and the resources that it needs to adapt in

the resources that it needs to adapt in this immediate moment that we're

this immediate moment that we're discussing now when we wake up and

discussing now when we wake up and realize it's underway not have a

realize it's underway not have a paranoid reaction but have an

paranoid reaction but have an instinctive reaction based on conserved

instinctive reaction based on conserved wisdom that goes back perhaps millions

wisdom that goes back perhaps millions of years towards its original foundation

of years towards its original foundation and then every experience that the

and then every experience that the subsequent Generations have had that

subsequent Generations have had that have been sufficiently strong so have

have been sufficiently strong so have been conserved at the molecular level

been conserved at the molecular level and at the field

and at the field level so there a great deal that we can

level so there a great deal that we can do so the right reaction to have to that

do so the right reaction to have to that is to see it as a signal it's not a

is to see it as a signal it's not a negative when even though the process is

negative when even though the process is underway uh and we're starting to feel

underway uh and we're starting to feel like we're losing our homeostasis we're

like we're losing our homeostasis we're aware maybe of certain um physical

aware maybe of certain um physical symptoms appearing in the body or we

symptoms appearing in the body or we might be uh aware that our psychological

might be uh aware that our psychological state has changed or or a bit of both

state has changed or or a bit of both that how we react to that is going to be

that how we react to that is going to be vitally important that we don't at that

vitally important that we don't at that stage see it as being a negative but

stage see it as being a negative but actually some there is actually

actually some there is actually something positive underway if we're

something positive underway if we're prepared to receive the message

prepared to receive the message absolutely and I think this this is the

absolutely and I think this this is the key to

key to adaptation when um paleo or paleo

adaptation when um paleo or paleo anthropologists study the past study

anthropologists study the past study human evolution that they're left with

human evolution that they're left with artifacts whether they are biological

artifacts whether they are biological remains in the form of skeletons and

remains in the form of skeletons and some extractable and analyzable DNA um

some extractable and analyzable DNA um cultural artifacts that are left left in

cultural artifacts that are left left in the ground maybe artwork cave paintings

the ground maybe artwork cave paintings or whatever they're left with that and

or whatever they're left with that and they're looking in the wrong place

they're looking in the wrong place because the ancestral psyche is in all

because the ancestral psyche is in all of us and it's in our mind therefore in

of us and it's in our mind therefore in our brain and in our genome we can

our brain and in our genome we can access directly the successful

access directly the successful adaptations from the past without going

adaptations from the past without going to these physical artifacts these

to these physical artifacts these remains which are decontextualized from

remains which are decontextualized from from living people they're important but

from living people they're important but they're not going to help in this

they're not going to help in this context we have to go Within in order to

context we have to go Within in order to receive what is within follow what is

receive what is within follow what is within and then measure that against

within and then measure that against what is without and then come up with an

what is without and then come up with an Adaptive solution and there are various

Adaptive solution and there are various thought experiments that you can do

thought experiments that you can do anybody can do uh about this simple ones

anybody can do uh about this simple ones would be that if you can imagine what it

would be that if you can imagine what it is like there is something to quote Jas

is like there is something to quote Jas or to paraphrase him that is his life to

or to paraphrase him that is his life to be a fully adapted paleo human experien

be a fully adapted paleo human experien their environment at the cave

their environment at the cave mouth what do you do do you withdraw do

mouth what do you do do you withdraw do you collapse or there's the open

you collapse or there's the open Savannah or the forest or whatever it

Savannah or the forest or whatever it might be and all of those exploitable

might be and all of those exploitable resources are there but so are those

resources are there but so are those dangers and there's you with everything

dangers and there's you with everything that you have to meet that challenge now

that you have to meet that challenge now can you do it they did and this is

can you do it they did and this is whether your biologically male or

whether your biologically male or biologically female your task is to

biologically female your task is to adapt now with every resource that your

adapt now with every resource that your enome has passed on to you and is ready

enome has passed on to you and is ready to do because the top level opponents

to do because the top level opponents that you're up against are adapted

that you're up against are adapted they've generated the local environment

they've generated the local environment it generated the influence within it

it generated the influence within it they're attempting to control you you

they're attempting to control you you have to take that away from them their

have to take that away from them their ability to control you and you need to

ability to control you and you need to reach in and find that confidence and

reach in and find that confidence and those resources to be able to meet that

those resources to be able to meet that challenge now go back don't be

challenge now go back don't be distracted by now that's what they want

distracted by now that's what they want and they want you as you're saying well

and they want you as you're saying well to be distracted by the the drive state

to be distracted by the the drive state of anxiety

of anxiety in yeah whereas if you can fight back

in yeah whereas if you can fight back without obviously fighting but by

without obviously fighting but by adapting then you're going to get

adapting then you're going to get through this and you're going to begin

through this and you're going to begin to generate change that will spread

to generate change that will spread amongst other people uh in a field sense

amongst other people uh in a field sense like R sheld talks about for example so

like R sheld talks about for example so there's so much that can be

there's so much that can be done so that's how you access your

done so that's how you access your instincts you you invite them by going

instincts you you invite them by going close to them by using imagery to

close to them by using imagery to understand the past and the sense of

understand the past and the sense of complete adaptation to that environment

complete adaptation to that environment it's still in you it's not in the ground

it's still in you it's not in the ground as dry fossilized bones or fading images

as dry fossilized bones or fading images on a cave wall it's in your mind it's in

on a cave wall it's in your mind it's in your brain it's in your genome it's your

your brain it's in your genome it's your ancestral inheritance you can access

ancestral inheritance you can access this you do not have to allow yourself

this you do not have to allow yourself to be influenced by these destructive

to be influenced by these destructive people well there is another stage or

people well there is another stage or perhaps another alternative that's not

perhaps another alternative that's not inevitable but that's if somebody wakes

inevitable but that's if somebody wakes up and it's already apparently too late

up and it's already apparently too late and we did over a year ago now we made a

and we did over a year ago now we made a series of videos called terminal

series of videos called terminal Lucidity terminal Lucidity of the

Lucidity terminal Lucidity of the masculine the feminine and the west and

masculine the feminine and the west and the meaning of that phrase from you guys

the meaning of that phrase from you guys is is a terminal Lucidity so someone

is is a terminal Lucidity so someone literally wakes up realizes what's been

literally wakes up realizes what's been done to them but it's too late for them

done to them but it's too late for them to do anything about it they're already

to do anything about it they're already in your your guys's words over the Event

in your your guys's words over the Event Horizon of the black hole and there's

Horizon of the black hole and there's just like an image of them left staring

just like an image of them left staring back um but it's not

back um but it's not inevitable it's not inevitable but I was

inevitable it's not inevitable but I was wonder if you could speak further on

wonder if you could speak further on that yeah thanks James what we can say

that yeah thanks James what we can say is that the human species as a species

is that the human species as a species has survived everything that's ever been

has survived everything that's ever been thrown at it thus

thrown at it thus far uh and the most likely thing to

far uh and the most likely thing to bring about its extension is

bring about its extension is itself if one aspect of it becomes so

itself if one aspect of it becomes so hypertrophied that it meeting its needs

hypertrophied that it meeting its needs its darwinian and frodan needs this is I

its darwinian and frodan needs this is I feel like a smaller political Elite is

feel like a smaller political Elite is going to cause a problem which will will

going to cause a problem which will will generate a A conf floration or a

generate a A conf floration or a catastrophe from which there can be no

catastrophe from which there can be no recovery but we have survived everything

recovery but we have survived everything as a

as a species so we need to look at those

species so we need to look at those adaptive strengths that have occurred

adaptive strengths that have occurred and we can pick any of them from history

and we can pick any of them from history but recent ones to do for example with

but recent ones to do for example with um communism Soviet and and uh Chinese

um communism Soviet and and uh Chinese Communist those kinds of dictatorship

Communist those kinds of dictatorship which persisted for a long period perod

which persisted for a long period perod of time uh less acute than the the

of time uh less acute than the the right-wing ones the fascist ones but

right-wing ones the fascist ones but equally if not even more murderous of

equally if not even more murderous of their own population the repression of

their own population the repression of people's Force the repression of of free

people's Force the repression of of free speech the Distortion of history and the

speech the Distortion of history and the elimination of culture and of

elimination of culture and of understanding of the past were all

understanding of the past were all attempted um by these regimes and they

attempted um by these regimes and they ultimately failed because people found a

ultimately failed because people found a way of preserving their sense of

way of preserving their sense of identity as a culture and of individuals

identity as a culture and of individuals that was necessary for when the the

that was necessary for when the the recovery has come and despite how people

recovery has come and despite how people may regard China for example China is a

may regard China for example China is a very very Dynamic culture and uh

very very Dynamic culture and uh maoism came and it went it was murderous

maoism came and it went it was murderous when it was there but what's happening

when it was there but what's happening now with China is that they are fully

now with China is that they are fully reconnected with their original cultural

reconnected with their original cultural understanding of themselves and that is

understanding of themselves and that is guiding their progression forward so

guiding their progression forward so they can live with what a appears to be

they can live with what a appears to be communism and dictatorship and free

communism and dictatorship and free market capitalism as if they were not

market capitalism as if they were not opponent processes for one another they

opponent processes for one another they can do that that's the peculiar by

can do that that's the peculiar by example strength of that culture but

example strength of that culture but that culture is made up of billions of

that culture is made up of billions of individuals who are all agreeing with

individuals who are all agreeing with this um the same thing happened with uh

this um the same thing happened with uh the Eastern Block in Europe there was

the Eastern Block in Europe there was resistance to the Soviets uh and the

resistance to the Soviets uh and the Soviet ideology the Soviet IDE ology

Soviet ideology the Soviet IDE ology wasn't ethnically Russian it was an

wasn't ethnically Russian it was an ideology independent of

ideology independent of ethnicity um and this is manifesting

ethnicity um and this is manifesting what's happened since the fall of the

what's happened since the fall of the Soviet Union within Russia regardless of

Soviet Union within Russia regardless of how that's being regarded at the

how that's being regarded at the moment so where there is oppression then

moment so where there is oppression then there is resistance and there will be a

there is resistance and there will be a period of time if people do wake up too

period of time if people do wake up too late apparently so anyway whereby the

late apparently so anyway whereby the resistance has to come at a field level

resistance has to come at a field level now engaging in that is OST

now engaging in that is OST strengthening because you are resisting

strengthening because you are resisting depression you're you're resisting being

depression you're you're resisting being flattened out becoming a collective

flattened out becoming a collective member of the non-playable characters

member of the non-playable characters that they want you to be um so being

that they want you to be um so being able to think freely is super important

able to think freely is super important um and building on that so there will

um and building on that so there will come as you've said uh a moment which is

come as you've said uh a moment which is nearly the end when it will appear to be

nearly the end when it will appear to be the most insane and we predicted what's

the most insane and we predicted what's happening now a few years ago um and

happening now a few years ago um and that's in video and we predicted it a

that's in video and we predicted it a decade or two before that because the

decade or two before that because the collective signs of the way that the

collective signs of the way that the West Was was going were apparent

West Was was going were apparent then uh but the most hopeful thing as I

then uh but the most hopeful thing as I say is that we have as a species

say is that we have as a species survived everything every form of

survived everything every form of Oppression every form of war the species

Oppression every form of war the species gets through uh individuals sadly in

gets through uh individuals sadly in massive numbers have not but others have

massive numbers have not but others have survived enough have survived so the

survived enough have survived so the worst case scenario is a survivable one

worst case scenario is a survivable one short of the nuclear war of course uh

short of the nuclear war of course uh would be that the resistance has to take

would be that the resistance has to take Roots at the level of the individual and

Roots at the level of the individual and then propagate through physical means of

then propagate through physical means of communication whatever they might be and

communication whatever they might be and then through a Field Effect all rer

then through a Field Effect all rer sheld Drakes understanding of field

sheld Drakes understanding of field phenomen uh and that will reach a

phenomen uh and that will reach a certain critical mass and then the flip

certain critical mass and then the flip will occur we'll get what Young called

will occur we'll get what Young called an

an anomia but if you feel it's too late you

anomia but if you feel it's too late you have to start with yourself you must do

have to start with yourself you must do what we said about the previous two

what we said about the previous two stages um understand what influence is

stages um understand what influence is what suggestion is understand what EG

what suggestion is understand what EG strength is knowing where you properly

strength is knowing where you properly begin and properly end uh have a

begin and properly end uh have a boundary which you will not allow

boundary which you will not allow negative suggestions across have an

negative suggestions across have an internal model which contradicts

internal model which contradicts sometimes how you behave

sometimes how you behave externally um and don't make yourself

externally um and don't make yourself congruent across that boundary if you do

congruent across that boundary if you do then you will either show yourself as

then you will either show yourself as being a problem to those who would

being a problem to those who would oppress you or you give in to them you

oppress you or you give in to them you have to be able to divide and this goes

have to be able to divide and this goes back to dissociation again you have an

back to dissociation again you have an inner reality which is the true you and

inner reality which is the true you and an external reality which is provided

an external reality which is provided for those who would control you um but

for those who would control you um but you know the difference between the two

you know the difference between the two they would break down that difference

they would break down that difference either to draw you out make you obvious

either to draw you out make you obvious or to make you comply with the external

or to make you comply with the external pressure on you so you need to be able

pressure on you so you need to be able to dissociate positively in order to

to dissociate positively in order to resist other forms of dissociation that

resist other forms of dissociation that are used against you that's part of e

are used against you that's part of e strength so that's why I would say as a

strength so that's why I would say as a broad brush

response and as you say accessing instincts positively so you can resist

instincts positively so you can resist the instinctive manipulation that goes

the instinctive manipulation that goes on in the culture from the likes of

on in the culture from the likes of politicians and and others anybody

politicians and and others anybody really um who sees ideas as a form of

really um who sees ideas as a form of power so we could even include academics

power so we could even include academics in that there's probably a lot of people

in that there's probably a lot of people that we could include in terms of uh the

that we could include in terms of uh the manipulation of ideas and um It's Your

manipulation of ideas and um It's Your Capacity to to resist those isn't it

Capacity to to resist those isn't it really at an instinctive level that will

really at an instinctive level that will keep you

keep you safe and this too is it it builds in the

safe and this too is it it builds in the notion of of positive influence as well

notion of of positive influence as well the kind of positive influence that we

the kind of positive influence that we can um emanate as individuals I mean the

can um emanate as individuals I mean the the first case study that that we spoke

the first case study that that we spoke about um there was something in the

about um there was something in the field of your interaction with this lady

field of your interaction with this lady that allowed her I think at an

that allowed her I think at an instinctive level to know that you could

instinctive level to know that you could help her and you've often described it

help her and you've often described it as being a kind of a strange place you

as being a kind of a strange place you know when two Fields overlap of two

know when two Fields overlap of two individuals um if if the conditions are

individuals um if if the conditions are right something happens yes in that

right something happens yes in that place where they overlap it can be

place where they overlap it can be Transcendent yes indeed and that's

Transcendent yes indeed and that's probably

probably because certainly in that situation that

because certainly in that situation that that particular case study you were

that particular case study you were probably prepared in the way that you

probably prepared in the way that you were suggesting people should be

were suggesting people should be prepared to meet the world on that

prepared to meet the world on that occasion which is that that deep

occasion which is that that deep connection to your ancestry so you have

connection to your ancestry so you have that deep understanding of the terrain

that deep understanding of the terrain of what you're up against instinctively

of what you're up against instinctively with that other

with that other person and we can all we can all do this

person and we can all we can all do this we can all partake in this and so we can

we can all partake in this and so we can also influence others positively and it

also influence others positively and it it's sometimes um what happens in our

it's sometimes um what happens in our social relationships too isn't it that

social relationships too isn't it that that we're sometimes the last person to

that we're sometimes the last person to realize that our psychology has been

realize that our psychology has been captured in some way or our physiology

captured in some way or our physiology has been captured in some way to use a

has been captured in some way to use a term that's probably familiar to us all

term that's probably familiar to us all um and if if we are sensitive to one

um and if if we are sensitive to one another then we become feel sensitive to

another then we become feel sensitive to the other person I mean that happens in

the other person I mean that happens in our relationship there are times when um

our relationship there are times when um I absorb your stress and vice versa um

I absorb your stress and vice versa um and it can be a while before we catch up

and it can be a while before we catch up with what whatever the change is within

with what whatever the change is within ourselves the other person kind of picks

ourselves the other person kind of picks it up first and says you know they they

it up first and says you know they they they the register the disturbance how to

they the register the disturbance how to feel like level yeah um and we could

feel like level yeah um and we could again we can all do this in our social

again we can all do this in our social relationships we can all notice or

relationships we can all notice or choose to observe things differently

choose to observe things differently that's different from projection and oh

that's different from projection and oh it's very different that's a field

it's very different that's a field sensitivity where you take through on

sensitivity where you take through on through sympathetic resonance yes what

through sympathetic resonance yes what someone else is not aware of in

someone else is not aware of in themselves that's exactly it yes and

themselves that's exactly it yes and that's uh very different from

that's uh very different from transference from projection when they

transference from projection when they are hostile in intense oh yeah it's a

are hostile in intense oh yeah it's a much cleaner way of of working yeah it

much cleaner way of of working yeah it it it is uh and that comes the positive

it it is uh and that comes the positive side that you've mentioned comes about

side that you've mentioned comes about through an ability to relate yeah and

through an ability to relate yeah and the ability to relate is highly

the ability to relate is highly conserved ancestrally yeah um and

conserved ancestrally yeah um and because rating isn't selfish no no uh it

because rating isn't selfish no no uh it shouldn't be anyway because it doesn't

shouldn't be anyway because it doesn't serve any kind of well we never evolve

serve any kind of well we never evolve would we as a species if it had been

would we as a species if it had been that way even Daran level there's no

that way even Daran level there's no real sensible well particularly sensible

real sensible well particularly sensible outcome in being adapted that way except

outcome in being adapted that way except for short ter IMM media gratification

for short ter IMM media gratification yeah which has its advantages for for

yeah which has its advantages for for psychopaths sociopaths and narcissists

psychopaths sociopaths and narcissists but it's not uh it's not good in that

but it's not uh it's not good in that sense that we would understand what good

sense that we would understand what good is yeah doing good for others yeah and I

is yeah doing good for others yeah and I think you you you right uh because um if

think you you you right uh because um if you you access that uh state in therapy

you you access that uh state in therapy you are no longer you that's true uh as

you are no longer you that's true uh as your your ordinary personality you

your your ordinary personality you you're you're in Loco so to speak for

you're you're in Loco so to speak for something that's bigger youngers would

something that's bigger youngers would call it the self wouldn't they which I

call it the self wouldn't they which I think is a distraction I think it's

think is a distraction I think it's bigger even than that that concept and

bigger even than that that concept and that's where the sense of Juicy comes

that's where the sense of Juicy comes from as well that you just have to do

from as well that you just have to do this because it's the right thing yeah

this because it's the right thing yeah and uh that's that was something I was

and uh that's that was something I was sensitive to even in my police work as

sensitive to even in my police work as well there is a right thing to do for

well there is a right thing to do for people and sometimes that can be very

people and sometimes that can be very different very very different from the

different very very different from the strict process of the law m

strict process of the law m um and uh that's that's what kept me in

um and uh that's that's what kept me in that profession as long as it did yeah

that profession as long as it did yeah uh was the ability or the need the juicy

uh was the ability or the need the juicy the requirements at a fundamental level

the requirements at a fundamental level to relate to people in that way as a

to relate to people in that way as a sense of service isn't it oh yes rather

sense of service isn't it oh yes rather than taking yeah

than taking yeah yeah yeah so there's a huge amount in

yeah yeah so there's a huge amount in what you said that's really important

what you said that's really important and to get that across well so so much

and to get that across well so so much even within the context of relationship

even within the context of relationship so much of what goes wrong uh for people

so much of what goes wrong uh for people happens at an instinctive level you know

happens at an instinctive level you know where where those basic instinctive

where where those basic instinctive needs aren't being met it's very

needs aren't being met it's very difficult to build on that uh in terms

difficult to build on that uh in terms of just ordinary everyday social

of just ordinary everyday social relating because we know don't we they

relating because we know don't we they insist themselves um and I guess where

insist themselves um and I guess where we can be this and this is where it gets

we can be this and this is where it gets tricky because I'm coming back now to

tricky because I'm coming back now to what you were saying about the kind of

what you were saying about the kind of influence uh that we get safe and Poli

influence uh that we get safe and Poli politicians in our culture which is is

politicians in our culture which is is more obvious in a way although we are

more obvious in a way although we are still nonetheless um exposed to it is

still nonetheless um exposed to it is that if we if we feel that our needs are

that if we if we feel that our needs are being met even if they're in service of

being met even if they're in service of something which is not really very nice

something which is not really very nice which is you know say the PO U the power

which is you know say the PO U the power drives of

drives of politicians uh we go along with it

politicians uh we go along with it because nonetheless the instincts are

because nonetheless the instincts are being met and uh eventually cognition

being met and uh eventually cognition comes online and it agrees with it

comes online and it agrees with it anyway so that's at that point it's a

anyway so that's at that point it's a done deal but it doesn't have to be that

done deal but it doesn't have to be that way in our more intimate relationships

way in our more intimate relationships we can yeah we can

we can yeah we can be more cognizant if that's the right

be more cognizant if that's the right word of the the importance and the

word of the the importance and the significance of getting Instinct right

significance of getting Instinct right for the the parties involved and then

for the the parties involved and then everything else will just build on that

everything else will just build on that yeah but um without that there's no

yeah but um without that there's no Foundation no there's none you're right

Foundation no there's none you're right and of course this notion that was

and of course this notion that was introduced in the UK by Tony Blair of

introduced in the UK by Tony Blair of presentism oh yeah so there's no past

presentism oh yeah so there's no past there's not even any future oh what a

there's not even any future oh what a suggestion yeah there's only the now and

suggestion yeah there's only the now and in the moments of the now you are being

in the moments of the now you are being controlled and manipulated and

controlled and manipulated and misdirected yeah so you take away the

misdirected yeah so you take away the past you take away the the evaluation

past you take away the the evaluation and understanding of the importance of

and understanding of the importance of our ancestry and of our biology and you

our ancestry and of our biology and you strip away every form of attachment to

strip away every form of attachment to that through the culture yeah um as well

that through the culture yeah um as well your own culture your own history

your own culture your own history regardless whether it's good or bad it's

regardless whether it's good or bad it's a fact nevertheless the the

a fact nevertheless the the reinterpretation of that negatively to

reinterpretation of that negatively to make you separate from it uh is so

make you separate from it uh is so important to be able to get people to

important to be able to get people to accept if you want to control them yeah

accept if you want to control them yeah and move them in another Direction yeah

and move them in another Direction yeah so the tendency towards

so the tendency towards globalism which is neither left nor

globalism which is neither left nor right it's something else a weird ad

right it's something else a weird ad mixture of the two weird synm yeah when

mixture of the two weird synm yeah when we look at it in a polarized way of left

we look at it in a polarized way of left or right but if you look at it in the

or right but if you look at it in the way the Freud arler young equation

way the Freud arler young equation those people who are familiar with that

those people who are familiar with that from our other videos it's immediately

from our other videos it's immediately clear that it's just that um and it's

clear that it's just that um and it's actually collapsing into an even smaller

actually collapsing into an even smaller group of people who will be controlling

group of people who will be controlling an even larger pyramid beneath them uh

an even larger pyramid beneath them uh and they rely on the compliance

and they rely on the compliance everybody who makes up the individual

everybody who makes up the individual blocks of that pyramid underneath them

blocks of that pyramid underneath them to follow exactly what they want to meet

to follow exactly what they want to meet their needs if you agree with it then

their needs if you agree with it then unfortunately that's it it's all over if

unfortunately that's it it's all over if you disagree with it it'll be tough but

you disagree with it it'll be tough but there's no other way that uh you your

there's no other way that uh you your children your culture your beliefs your

children your culture your beliefs your values uh have any likelihood of

values uh have any likelihood of surviving outside of the control that's

surviving outside of the control that's being imposed upon you so you need to

being imposed upon you so you need to sharpen your understanding of of who and

sharpen your understanding of of who and what you are what your boundaries are

what you are what your boundaries are access your instincts your ancestral

access your instincts your ancestral psyche be prepared to be one person on

psyche be prepared to be one person on the outside and another on the inside

the outside and another on the inside and generate

and generate resistance collectively that way through

resistance collectively that way through the instantiation of an individual and

the instantiation of an individual and another individual who think feel and

another individual who think feel and act the same way and form that field

act the same way and form that field that's if it's too late or nearly too

that's if it's too late or nearly too late we're almost nearly too late I

late we're almost nearly too late I would say we're probably in the middle

would say we're probably in the middle of the middle phase right now and as we

of the middle phase right now and as we predicted the

predicted the insanity uh of the catabolic forces

insanity uh of the catabolic forces would exponentially grow we predicted

would exponentially grow we predicted this and that's what you can see uh it's

this and that's what you can see uh it's it's happening so it's time

it's happening so it's time now is the time to to organize yourself

now is the time to to organize yourself at an individual level and be prepared

at an individual level and be prepared to adapt in every conserved way that has

to adapt in every conserved way that has always worked before to meet the

always worked before to meet the challenges of the times thanks on that

challenges of the times thanks on that Stephen Pauline I'd like to add one last

Stephen Pauline I'd like to add one last thing I suppose and that's on

thing I suppose and that's on superpositioning and understanding

superpositioning and understanding superpositioning the the utility in that

superpositioning the the utility in that for adaptation by understanding I don't

for adaptation by understanding I don't mean in a cognitive sense like a sit

mean in a cognitive sense like a sit down study sense I mean more in a a

down study sense I mean more in a a feeling sense in an intuitive sense

feeling sense in an intuitive sense relating to that you know idea so-called

relating to that you know idea so-called from you guys because superpositioning

from you guys because superpositioning takes so much pressure off of the ego

takes so much pressure off of the ego immediately beforehand most people

immediately beforehand most people implicitly believe that they're just an

implicitly believe that they're just an ego usually quite a cognitive ego and

ego usually quite a cognitive ego and that's it that's more or less it there's

that's it that's more or less it there's no other Consciousness within them at

no other Consciousness within them at all someone is way easier to be

all someone is way easier to be manipulated ated when they're in that

manipulated ated when they're in that state and have these negative

state and have these negative suggestions from the culture which are

suggestions from the culture which are constant it's a bombardment all the time

constant it's a bombardment all the time and for years and years now but with

and for years and years now but with super positioning there are a few

super positioning there are a few aspects of it if I can put it into words

aspects of it if I can put it into words that I find very liberating one is the

that I find very liberating one is the connectedness of it there there there's

connectedness of it there there there's always a connectedness in a field sense

always a connectedness in a field sense as you say perhaps of ruper sheld field

as you say perhaps of ruper sheld field sense but it's more than that too

sense but it's more than that too because this type of field extends

because this type of field extends across time and cestal time through and

across time and cestal time through and beckoning into the

beckoning into the future and it's

future and it's it if one understands that there's a

it if one understands that there's a Consciousness that's not within the ego

Consciousness that's not within the ego that is homeostatic and ready to go like

that is homeostatic and ready to go like in the first and second to be fair case

in the first and second to be fair case studies that we discussed in this video

studies that we discussed in this video I can imagine that someone could become

I can imagine that someone could become rather quite resistant to as you say

rather quite resistant to as you say being flattened out or depression or

being flattened out or depression or despair from understanding that just

despair from understanding that just behind if like their experience there is

behind if like their experience there is Health there that's ancestral Health

Health there that's ancestral Health that's a health that's ancient right

that's a health that's ancient right there super positioned with what they

there super positioned with what they experience at the moment I find that

experience at the moment I find that really moving I know it's really helped

really moving I know it's really helped me personally too but really moving and

me personally too but really moving and it's not just an idea because it's it's

it's not just an idea because it's it's demonstrably real you you you can see it

demonstrably real you you you can see it you've used the phrase before that the

you've used the phrase before that the psyche is like a living laboratory and

psyche is like a living laboratory and we can go inside and find these things

we can go inside and find these things and you can you absolutely can so so I'd

and you can you absolutely can so so I'd recommend to people to to feel into that

recommend to people to to feel into that interconnected nature of them and not in

interconnected nature of them and not in a woowoo way either it's it's it's

a woowoo way either it's it's it's biological there's there there's physics

biological there's there there's physics in there there's psychology in there but

in there there's psychology in there but it's also social relationships too and

it's also social relationships too and knowing that the genome is on your side

knowing that the genome is on your side the side of

the side of Health that's really well possible very

Health that's really well possible very well very very well it's a great summary

well very very well it's a great summary and um I think he's right yes I think

and um I think he's right yes I think it's actually hard to better that to be

it's actually hard to better that to be honest I I I think it will be better to

honest I I I think it will be better to experience what James has just summed up

experience what James has just summed up really because it it says it all it does

really because it it says it all it does um the way to understand it

um the way to understand it though is difficult like you say James

though is difficult like you say James if if it's put into any kind of

if if it's put into any kind of cognitive form but without that you

cognitive form but without that you can't make a model of the experience you

can't make a model of the experience you just have to have it

just have to have it so what I would say is that the the

so what I would say is that the the concept of imminence that is to say

concept of imminence that is to say there are things that are connect Ed and

there are things that are connect Ed and they cannot be

they cannot be disconnected and that we make them

disconnected and that we make them appear to be disconnected by the way

appear to be disconnected by the way that we look at them or we think or feel

that we look at them or we think or feel that we experience them um so the

that we experience them um so the ancestral psyche is always there but we

ancestral psyche is always there but we are separated from our relationship to

are separated from our relationship to it that doesn't negate it it's still

it that doesn't negate it it's still there and it is an organized field of

there and it is an organized field of representation of experience that is as

representation of experience that is as you say biological the genomic level

you say biological the genomic level even at the morphic level our shape is

even at the morphic level our shape is has evolved um our brain has evolved and

has evolved um our brain has evolved and it's brought forward all of its learning

it's brought forward all of its learning and and it's shaping forces from the

and and it's shaping forces from the past but we ignore it because we're too

past but we ignore it because we're too collapsed into our ego our normal

collapsed into our ego our normal conscious ego too open to immediate

conscious ego too open to immediate influence without going back to that

influence without going back to that which has been deeply conserved and is

which has been deeply conserved and is available for us so it's there it's

available for us so it's there it's superpositioned everything is

superpositioned everything is superpositioned um and it's just a case

superpositioned um and it's just a case of adjusting our conscious or OC

of adjusting our conscious or OC Consciousness to being able to receive

Consciousness to being able to receive that understanding then we change

that understanding then we change immediately and it's as you said it's

immediately and it's as you said it's one of the most important things in in

one of the most important things in in the depth psychology as we practice it

the depth psychology as we practice it is helping people to access that super

is helping people to access that super possession field so they are no longer

possession field so they are no longer only that vulnerable personality that

only that vulnerable personality that has collapsed around its complexes and

has collapsed around its complexes and around the negative influence of other

around the negative influence of other people whether they're parents or

people whether they're parents or spouses or friends or whoever it might

spouses or friends or whoever it might be that other a level of Psychosocial

be that other a level of Psychosocial register they are more only than that

and when you realize that you realize the mechanism through information

the mechanism through information shifting between levels that is

shifting between levels that is superpositioned you can have a big

superpositioned you can have a big effect on a lot of people um there

effect on a lot of people um there there's a lot more of you to be

there's a lot more of you to be conscious isn't there suddenly when you

conscious isn't there suddenly when you thinking that way it is conscious and it

thinking that way it is conscious and it is conscious it's just differently

is conscious it's just differently conscious it's not normally EG

conscious it's not normally EG conscious and we don't need to rify we

conscious and we don't need to rify we don't need to turn them into little

don't need to turn them into little personalities running around inside our

personalities running around inside our head because they are only collapsed

head because they are only collapsed representations of the the bandwidth of

representations of the the bandwidth of this enormous field this conserved field

this enormous field this conserved field we should properly experience them

we should properly experience them through instincts and instincts is

through instincts and instincts is delivered through affect and then

delivered through affect and then finally into cognition and what we call

finally into cognition and what we call intuition borrowing from Young because

intuition borrowing from Young because there is probably no better and more

there is probably no better and more useful way of describing it than that is

useful way of describing it than that is the meta organiz ation of that field

the meta organiz ation of that field that continually collapses into other

that continually collapses into other forms of

forms of representation um so when we can access

representation um so when we can access intuition properly we automatically

intuition properly we automatically become more conscious of those other

become more conscious of those other elements of that that superposition

elements of that that superposition field then you can deal with more you

field then you can deal with more you can deal with more problems uh you can

can deal with more problems uh you can deal with with the intensity of

deal with with the intensity of individual problems better you can

individual problems better you can communicate influence positive influence

communicate influence positive influence more efficiently uh against these cab

more efficiently uh against these cab and reductive forces that we're under

and reductive forces that we're under pressure from at the moment so

pressure from at the moment so understanding

understanding superpositioning and Consciousness as

superpositioning and Consciousness as such what that is and we're going to do

such what that is and we're going to do a video on this where we lay out this

a video on this where we lay out this model of Consciousness that will build

model of Consciousness that will build on what we presented in this video and

on what we presented in this video and in earlier ones recent earlier ones uh

in earlier ones recent earlier ones uh is going to be key to understanding this

is going to be key to understanding this process and I'm becoming as autonomous

process and I'm becoming as autonomous and as relational as you can be in these

and as relational as you can be in these very challenging times

so we discussed there the psychosomatic storm specifically how the psychosomatic

storm specifically how the psychosomatic storm is likely to manifest within an

storm is likely to manifest within an individual and within the collective and

individual and within the collective and also how we can avoid being pulled into

also how we can avoid being pulled into this psychosomatic storm an important

this psychosomatic storm an important thing to emphasize before we move any

thing to emphasize before we move any further in this video and there is

further in this video and there is timestamp below a Discord post from

timestamp below a Discord post from Steve exactly on this point and this is

Steve exactly on this point and this is that we should not go chasing first

that we should not go chasing first causes for for a complex or what an

causes for for a complex or what an original traumatizing event was that may

original traumatizing event was that may have caused a complex part of the

have caused a complex part of the definition from Steven Pauline of the

definition from Steven Pauline of the psychosomatic storm is that very often

psychosomatic storm is that very often the first cause will be lost through the

the first cause will be lost through the information that superpositions itself

information that superpositions itself out into that person's overall wave form

out into that person's overall wave form at the moment rather than having to

at the moment rather than having to conserve specific first causes from the

conserve specific first causes from the past this is really really important to

past this is really really important to bear in mind because this next chapter

bear in mind because this next chapter is all about essentially ego strength

is all about essentially ego strength Shoring up one's own ego to adapt as

Shoring up one's own ego to adapt as best as possible not just to their

best as possible not just to their lifespan potential but also to avoid

lifespan potential but also to avoid traps that the culture broadly are

traps that the culture broadly are leaving for people right now so

leaving for people right now so specifically this pertains to suggestion

specifically this pertains to suggestion and the fact that we are always within a

and the fact that we are always within a sea of suggestion especially in our days

sea of suggestion especially in our days of the internet suggestion can be the

of the internet suggestion can be the thing the factor that initiates trauma

thing the factor that initiates trauma in the first place that which bypasses

in the first place that which bypasses cognition usually within the ego

cognition usually within the ego partially or even completely and takes

partially or even completely and takes hold within the other qualia within the

hold within the other qualia within the ego field helping to partition it and

ego field helping to partition it and form a complex but also suggestion

form a complex but also suggestion really does sustain trauma sustain

really does sustain trauma sustain complexes so complexes will seek things

complexes so complexes will seek things out with the person being unconscious of

out with the person being unconscious of that in order to confirm themselves and

that in order to confirm themselves and therefore justify why they are necessary

therefore justify why they are necessary for that person to carry around which of

for that person to carry around which of course is not an ideal scenario

course is not an ideal scenario suggestion and resistance to it

suggestion and resistance to it resilience the ability to to deal it

resilience the ability to to deal it super important isn't it Paul well yes

super important isn't it Paul well yes it's one of those things isn't it that

it's one of those things isn't it that were where we live in the sea of

were where we live in the sea of suggestion coming at us from all sides

suggestion coming at us from all sides don't we whether it's from within um our

don't we whether it's from within um our families or relationships the culture

families or relationships the culture more broadly we we're literally immersed

more broadly we we're literally immersed in suggestion all the time and it can it

in suggestion all the time and it can it can be very difficult um to resist in

can be very difficult um to resist in the sense

the sense that for the largest part it bypasses

that for the largest part it bypasses our ego Consciousness or or awareness

our ego Consciousness or or awareness that it's even in fact

that it's even in fact operating and probably one of the best

operating and probably one of the best examples of it and I think we've

examples of it and I think we've probably touched on this

probably touched on this before is how it was working during

before is how it was working during covid on um things like project fear

covid on um things like project fear that the government rolled out uh in

that the government rolled out uh in order to literally keep people off

order to literally keep people off balance psychologically so distracting

balance psychologically so distracting them with um slogans if you like um

them with um slogans if you like um because the thing about slogans and

because the thing about slogans and language is that that it can imply other

language is that that it can imply other things and very often while people are

things and very often while people are distracted by those kinds of things I

distracted by those kinds of things I mean there was all most of us will

mean there was all most of us will probably uh remember the kind of things

probably uh remember the kind of things that were trotted out almost on a a

that were trotted out almost on a a daily basis um certainly on the news you

daily basis um certainly on the news you know and Boris would get up with his

know and Boris would get up with his Entourage and and uh you know there

Entourage and and uh you know there there would be various mantras uh

there would be various mantras uh trotted out slogans trotted out

trotted out slogans trotted out and people would then become almost

and people would then become almost entranced by the message and and they

entranced by the message and and they would miss the fact

would miss the fact that you know the implied suggestion of

that you know the implied suggestion of those messages which which was which

those messages which which was which were taking uh at a deep structure so

were taking uh at a deep structure so they were affecting us at a at an

they were affecting us at a at an instinctive level principally without us

instinctive level principally without us even realizing that that was happening

even realizing that that was happening because obviously that's the most

because obviously that's the most effective and efficient way for

effective and efficient way for something like a government to get their

something like a government to get their message home and uh change people's

message home and uh change people's behavior uh in a way that is is

behavior uh in a way that is is consistent with the way in which they

consistent with the way in which they want the narrative to go so there was

want the narrative to go so there was there was plenty uh of different slogans

there was plenty uh of different slogans out there um I'm just trying to remember

out there um I'm just trying to remember a few of them off the off the top of my

a few of them off the off the top of my head I think was hands face space stay

head I think was hands face space stay home protect the NHS NHS yes that kind

home protect the NHS NHS yes that kind of thing um flattening the curve I think

of thing um flattening the curve I think was probably quite a an interesting one

was probably quite a an interesting one that's that is because what curve are we

that's that is because what curve are we flat well in in indeed and um you know

flat well in in indeed and um you know ability to resist yes yes level

ability to resist yes yes level everything out become heard in mind yes

everything out become heard in mind yes which is yes yes or or maybe even more

which is yes yes or or maybe even more pentious the idea of a flatline you know

pentious the idea of a flatline you know you could think of like an ECG Trace

you could think of like an ECG Trace flatlining which means that you know

flatlining which means that you know that's like is very dangerous that's

that's like is very dangerous that's almost like a a complete

almost like a a complete capitulation to the powers that be in a

capitulation to the powers that be in a way if if if deep structure it affects

way if if if deep structure it affects you uh at that level uh and this the

you uh at that level uh and this the suggestion takes and proliferates it's

suggestion takes and proliferates it's not it's not a very nice uh thing to

not it's not a very nice uh thing to happen of course so the the problem

happen of course so the the problem essentially is that the way in for

essentially is that the way in for suggestion is the same whether it's

suggestion is the same whether it's positive or

positive or negative and uh that that can be the

negative and uh that that can be the difficult thing can't it really yeah it

difficult thing can't it really yeah it can so uh project fear worked by

can so uh project fear worked by misdirecting instincts yes it did and

misdirecting instincts yes it did and instincts are very close of course to

instincts are very close of course to the Geno we we can say in fact that

the Geno we we can say in fact that instincts are the emistry of their m the

instincts are the emistry of their m the The genome um for all sorts of

The genome um for all sorts of conserved reasons in terms of

conserved reasons in terms of evolutionary history and adaptation uh

evolutionary history and adaptation uh to our environment so cognition has very

to our environment so cognition has very little resistance after a certain point

little resistance after a certain point yes once once Instinct reaches a

yes once once Instinct reaches a critical mass amongst a group or a herd

critical mass amongst a group or a herd then cognition becomes so inefficient

then cognition becomes so inefficient and so ineffective people start to give

and so ineffective people start to give in yeah so you need to have an

in yeah so you need to have an appropriate relationship to your own

appropriate relationship to your own instincts to avoid that kind of

instincts to avoid that kind of suggestion and the main thing in this

suggestion and the main thing in this with respect uh to today's video has to

with respect uh to today's video has to do with the psychosomatic storm and that

do with the psychosomatic storm and that will appear incrementally in people

will appear incrementally in people whose instincts are frustrated to the

whose instincts are frustrated to the point that the individual is no longer

point that the individual is no longer meeting their homeostatic needs both

meeting their homeostatic needs both within and in terms of their

within and in terms of their relationships without so that is

relationships without so that is basically the mechanism of repression

basically the mechanism of repression that gets to the point where a person's

that gets to the point where a person's health starts to spiral out of control

health starts to spiral out of control and uh the push back from uh the

and uh the push back from uh the compensation if you like from within the

compensation if you like from within the genome can't find any way of expressing

genome can't find any way of expressing itself other than turning on itself uh

itself other than turning on itself uh and that's when psychosomatic disorders

and that's when psychosomatic disorders will start to occur in in huge amounts

will start to occur in in huge amounts which depletes people even more so this

which depletes people even more so this is

is potential if we're aware of something

potential if we're aware of something like that that the potential for that

like that that the potential for that happening then pretty much as we were

happening then pretty much as we were saying before about imagining a better

saying before about imagining a better future but not just imagining as a

future but not just imagining as a fantasy but bringing that back towards

fantasy but bringing that back towards you and letting it take root you can

you and letting it take root you can then basically generate a boundry and

then basically generate a boundry and say no it's not going to happen I will

say no it's not going to happen I will not allow my instincts to be misdirected

not allow my instincts to be misdirected and then a compensation for those

and then a compensation for those instincts to turn back and attack me I'm

instincts to turn back and attack me I'm going to have a proper relationship a

going to have a proper relationship a proper standing to my instincts and of

proper standing to my instincts and of my instincts will then allow my

my instincts will then allow my cognitions and my emotions to deploy

cognitions and my emotions to deploy properly in terms of adaptation in the

properly in terms of adaptation in the world to face these challenges it's when

world to face these challenges it's when people don't do that that Neurosis in an

people don't do that that Neurosis in an orderly sense occurs that's the basic

orderly sense occurs that's the basic split that that we see in people is

split that that we see in people is between Instinct and opportunity to

between Instinct and opportunity to adapt and cognition tries to to solve it

adapt and cognition tries to to solve it then it can't then emotion U inflates

then it can't then emotion U inflates basically and drives us through d states

basically and drives us through d states which are further frustrated and then

which are further frustrated and then the Rossy Pathways open up for

the Rossy Pathways open up for transduction into psychosomatic

transduction into psychosomatic disorders and conditions which

disorders and conditions which ultimately can become real in

ultimately can become real in effect so being able to understand that

effect so being able to understand that that you can have a proper relationship

that you can have a proper relationship to Instinct you don't have to go to a

to Instinct you don't have to go to a collective level and follow the herd you

collective level and follow the herd you have your

have your own and you can bring them forward in

own and you can bring them forward in two directions from the past the

two directions from the past the ancestral psyche and from from the

ancestral psyche and from from the future which is what your genome

future which is what your genome anticipates for you you put yourself in

anticipates for you you put yourself in those two states and the moment that

those two states and the moment that you're in right now even at that moment

you're in right now even at that moment lasts for some time is

lasts for some time is transitory because the past is huge in

transitory because the past is huge in terms of the

terms of the conserved drive to be well and adapted

conserved drive to be well and adapted and the future is the goal of the past

and the future is the goal of the past as it moves through the present so you

as it moves through the present so you bring the past and the future into

bring the past and the future into coherence with one another you can get

coherence with one another you can get get through the present and you can

get through the present and you can avoid splitting uh and fractionalizing

avoid splitting uh and fractionalizing yourself down into uh discrete

yourself down into uh discrete psychosomatic states which then feed

psychosomatic states which then feed into one another through the process of

into one another through the process of complex

complex formation uh which are then

formation uh which are then misinterpreted uh by Medics if you're

misinterpreted uh by Medics if you're lucky to be able to see one the way that

lucky to be able to see one the way that they've um they they've brought the in

they've um they they've brought the in the UK any the NHS to its absolute

the UK any the NHS to its absolute functional

functional knes um so this is again as we said

knes um so this is again as we said before the dimension of time if you

before the dimension of time if you think about it in in those terms we have

think about it in in those terms we have ancestral time and we have teleological

ancestral time and we have teleological goal directed time in the future so

goal directed time in the future so access your instincts at an individual

access your instincts at an individual level your cognitions then will be free

level your cognitions then will be free they'll be free of instinctive pressure

they'll be free of instinctive pressure they'll be free of affective over

they'll be free of affective over overloading and you'll be able to make

overloading and you'll be able to make proper virtual models of the future and

proper virtual models of the future and move yourself towards it and maintain

move yourself towards it and maintain your own health that is how to be

your own health that is how to be adaptive in uh the kind of circumstances

adaptive in uh the kind of circumstances that we're going through at the moment I

that we're going through at the moment I think part I mean they been they were

think part I mean they been they were very clever weren't they not not just

very clever weren't they not not just our government here in the UK but

our government here in the UK but governments globally they were very

governments globally they were very clever in the sense that they they

clever in the sense that they they manipulated um instincts that could be

manipulated um instincts that could be considered to be very positive in a in

considered to be very positive in a in an ancestral sense in an evolutionary

an ancestral sense in an evolutionary sense which of course are the the kind

sense which of course are the the kind of social instincts that we all have to

of social instincts that we all have to feel as if we belong and to be confirmed

feel as if we belong and to be confirmed by a group and then to co-c confirm

by a group and then to co-c confirm because there there feels to be Security

because there there feels to be Security in that as well in that kind of group or

in that as well in that kind of group or head mentality that you've you've

head mentality that you've you've mentioned Stave and so the fact that

mentioned Stave and so the fact that they've they've manipulated and

they've they've manipulated and obviously deliberately so something

obviously deliberately so something which is essentially very positive about

which is essentially very positive about our ancestry and our sense of community

our ancestry and our sense of community and belonging I mean hats off to them

and belonging I mean hats off to them that's a really good trick but once you

that's a really good trick but once you see through it it can't operate in that

see through it it can't operate in that way anym more and you you then have to

way anym more and you you then have to as you rightly say fall back on your own

as you rightly say fall back on your own individual instincts and decide to take

individual instincts and decide to take a position against the manipulation

a position against the manipulation which is clearly going on it is and of

which is clearly going on it is and of course what happened under covid was

course what happened under covid was really just a preparation for for

really just a preparation for for anything else really whereby yes the

anything else really whereby yes the government wanted to to Gar a compliance

government wanted to to Gar a compliance but another aspect I was thinking about

but another aspect I was thinking about as you were talking Steve as well

as you were talking Steve as well because we see it in um post-traumatic

because we see it in um post-traumatic stress disorder generally and that is

stress disorder generally and that is the kind of paranoia the kind of

the kind of paranoia the kind of hypervigilance that you get with

hypervigilance that you get with something like

something like PTSD uh was present under CO as well so

PTSD uh was present under CO as well so you could almost argue that they gen in

you could almost argue that they gen in some people they generated that state in

some people they generated that state in them by virtue of the fact that they

them by virtue of the fact that they created that kind of hypervigilance even

created that kind of hypervigilance even down to things Expressions I could say

down to things Expressions I could say that the language was shes very very

that the language was shes very very clever very simple but very effective uh

clever very simple but very effective uh things like contact tracing the idea

things like contact tracing the idea yeah you know it it is predatory um and

yeah you know it it is predatory um and it doesn't you know you only have to

it doesn't you know you only have to kind of allow that to impact you in a

kind of allow that to impact you in a slightly different way and you realize

slightly different way and you realize what it's intended to do and it again

what it's intended to do and it again it's quite Sinister really certainly

it's quite Sinister really certainly very unpleasant so the minute that you

very unpleasant so the minute that you see

see through these things what's what's going

through these things what's what's going on the ways in which we are

on the ways in which we are we are being um I think the current meme

we are being um I think the current meme is mass lighted rather than gaslighted

is mass lighted rather than gaslighted which is a a good one really uh then it

which is a a good one really uh then it stops it stops at that point yeah and I

stops it stops at that point yeah and I think that's really important because um

think that's really important because um clearly then that's EO strengthening the

clearly then that's EO strengthening the minute you can say no to something in

minute you can say no to something in that way and you

that way and you know by and large people are of good

know by and large people are of good character aren't they and so there's an

character aren't they and so there's an element of trust the that that operates

element of trust the that that operates I think a kind of a ground state that if

I think a kind of a ground state that if you believe that what you're being told

you believe that what you're being told is for your benefit then you open

is for your benefit then you open yourself up and you let the suggestion

yourself up and you let the suggestion in yeah until you realize that actually

in yeah until you realize that actually what you're looking at isn't really very

what you're looking at isn't really very nice at all and you see the other face

nice at all and you see the other face of it yeah just like you would in say um

of it yeah just like you would in say um you often talk about Tantra Steve and

you often talk about Tantra Steve and you talk about the various um uh deities

you talk about the various um uh deities positive and negative de

positive and negative de and um that might be a way to think

and um that might be a way to think about the suggestion that's coming at us

about the suggestion that's coming at us yeah continues to come at us in

yeah continues to come at us in different forms now as well it will it

different forms now as well it will it will have one face that they if it's a

will have one face that they if it's a government for example that they want

government for example that they want you to see and then on the obverse side

you to see and then on the obverse side there will be something else that stands

there will be something else that stands behind that and it's that that needs to

behind that and it's that that needs to be resisted yeah that's kind of reverse

be resisted yeah that's kind of reverse of time it it is a reverse yeah but yeah

of time it it is a reverse yeah but yeah yeah you're you're absolutely right that

yeah you're you're absolutely right that um

um how we manipulate things so you know

how we manipulate things so you know tantrism should be uh about increasing

tantrism should be uh about increasing Consciousness and understanding yeah if

Consciousness and understanding yeah if an entity I'll call it an entity um a

an entity I'll call it an entity um a collective entity wants to prevent us

collective entity wants to prevent us from doing that then they have to lead

from doing that then they have to lead with something different as you say yes

with something different as you say yes they deal they would lead with the

they deal they would lead with the misrepresentation of the positive would

misrepresentation of the positive would they would yes so the misdirection of

they would yes so the misdirection of instinct is absolutely vital I was

instinct is absolutely vital I was thinking that when we um James you'll

thinking that when we um James you'll remember this back in 20 20 when Co was

remember this back in 20 20 when Co was just kicking off we predicted that the

just kicking off we predicted that the police would turn into Predators they

police would turn into Predators they would act as a pack pack hunters and

would act as a pack pack hunters and they've done that they've done that in

they've done that they've done that in the UK and I've seen that model

the UK and I've seen that model replicated throughout the Western world

replicated throughout the Western world where it wasn't there before that's true

where it wasn't there before that's true they just just to quickly say that

they just just to quickly say that prediction of of yours is in our video

prediction of of yours is in our video uh the the danger of the covid-19

uh the the danger of the covid-19 Lockdown from 2020 it's still up on the

Lockdown from 2020 it's still up on the channel now in case anyone wants to go

channel now in case anyone wants to go back and check it out thank you um but

back and check it out thank you um but that has happened the whole culture of

that has happened the whole culture of the police in the UK has shifted towards

the police in the UK has shifted towards their own self-preservation within a

their own self-preservation within a hierarchy of other kinds of

hierarchy of other kinds of predators um which ultimately are

predators um which ultimately are political at least on the surface it's

political at least on the surface it's actually quite deep it goes down into

actually quite deep it goes down into the collective biology of our species

the collective biology of our species itself it's at that level really it

itself it's at that level really it follows the Freud arly young

follows the Freud arly young equation but but that's one thing to to

equation but but that's one thing to to appreciate that um those services that

appreciate that um those services that should be there to help us in the UK I'm

should be there to help us in the UK I'm speaking specifically about us um

speaking specifically about us um Education Health Care Social Services um

Education Health Care Social Services um the police and others all of them have

the police and others all of them have been corrupted all of them without

been corrupted all of them without without a doubt and they've been

without a doubt and they've been corrupted at the level of

corrupted at the level of instinct uh this will induce despur and

instinct uh this will induce despur and defeat um which suppresses people uh

defeat um which suppresses people uh they may guess an immediate Kickback

they may guess an immediate Kickback which is the psychosomatic storm or the

which is the psychosomatic storm or the the FR ation that follows on from that

the FR ation that follows on from that or they may go down into depression and

or they may go down into depression and then suppress themselves now there is

then suppress themselves now there is another phase and this is becoming

another phase and this is becoming popular at the moment more so ever than

popular at the moment more so ever than ever before now is a

ever before now is a fantasy fantasy when it works in a

fantasy fantasy when it works in a healthy way is a holding space for

healthy way is a holding space for things that can't be actualized in the

things that can't be actualized in the moment when it becomes unhealthy it

moment when it becomes unhealthy it replaces outer

replaces outer adaptation now the dividing line between

adaptation now the dividing line between those two is fluid of course

those two is fluid of course um but in a

um but in a situation such as we've been in for the

situation such as we've been in for the past four or five years in particular

past four or five years in particular fantasy is replacing reality all the

fantasy is replacing reality all the time as becoming a more favorable

time as becoming a more favorable adaptation than than facing the

adaptation than than facing the challenges so if you have an option as

challenges so if you have an option as an individual to feel defeat and to Spur

an individual to feel defeat and to Spur to collapse in on yourself to bring

to collapse in on yourself to bring photos through which is a m of scale it

photos through which is a m of scale it can run from what you were discussing

can run from what you were discussing when you were doing that the seminar on

when you were doing that the seminar on epigenetic the day ipsa James talk about

epigenetic the day ipsa James talk about programmed cell death you can have

programmed cell death you can have programmed organism self deltion as well

programmed organism self deltion as well uh which is what Freud and his followers

uh which is what Freud and his followers identified as being fotos or the Death

identified as being fotos or the Death Drive H you can see that in the

Drive H you can see that in the darwinian context as well it makes a

darwinian context as well it makes a certain amount of sense it's not ideal

certain amount of sense it's not ideal but a certain amount of sense at the

but a certain amount of sense at the collective instinctive level uh because

collective instinctive level uh because it's a darwinian pressure at that level

it's a darwinian pressure at that level so if we we go too much into fantasy and

so if we we go too much into fantasy and become easily distracted and dependent

become easily distracted and dependent upon fantasy that's a holding space

upon fantasy that's a holding space before the eventual collapse of a person

before the eventual collapse of a person when they lose contact with the reality

when they lose contact with the reality of everyday life because whilst they're

of everyday life because whilst they're tied up in fantasy all of the changes

tied up in fantasy all of the changes are occurring they're all happening it's

are occurring they're all happening it's as if they will wake up from a slumber

as if they will wake up from a slumber yeah in a different world a world that

yeah in a different world a world that was changing whilst they were busy

was changing whilst they were busy entertaining themselves with

entertaining themselves with nonsense now the proper level of

nonsense now the proper level of adaptation is to access instinct to

adaptation is to access instinct to access meta narratives that are grounded

access meta narratives that are grounded in the genome itself as meta instinctive

in the genome itself as meta instinctive scenarios that are pre-programmed into

scenarios that are pre-programmed into the ancestral psyche and prepare us to

the ancestral psyche and prepare us to pass through the present and into the

pass through the present and into the future a real future not a fantasy

future a real future not a fantasy substitute for the future this is hugely

substitute for the future this is hugely important so there are a number of

important so there are a number of possibilities they are related um

possibilities they are related um negative ones uh they overlap um so

negative ones uh they overlap um so defeat despur fantasy uh and

defeat despur fantasy uh and psychosomatic responses at a collective

psychosomatic responses at a collective level can all intertwine because when a

level can all intertwine because when a person's too attached to Fantasy the

person's too attached to Fantasy the idea of not being attached to that

idea of not being attached to that anymore and having to face reality will

anymore and having to face reality will generate a psychosomatic

generate a psychosomatic representation and that can be anything

representation and that can be anything uh as depleted as depression following

uh as depleted as depression following on from defeat and despair into a high

on from defeat and despair into a high anxiety Drive state which will then

anxiety Drive state which will then affect the hormonal profile of your body

affect the hormonal profile of your body your immune system everything and things

your immune system everything and things will start to Cascade down into Auto

will start to Cascade down into Auto deletion even if that's slow to do with

deletion even if that's slow to do with being deleted from the gene pool from

being deleted from the gene pool from saying you know I'm not going to bother

saying you know I'm not going to bother relating anymore if you're a young man

relating anymore if you're a young man I'm not going to bother uh with women

I'm not going to bother uh with women I'm not going to bother relating in such

I'm not going to bother relating in such a way that will help them

a way that will help them change this is where the resistance has

change this is where the resistance has to take root otherwise there will be a

to take root otherwise there will be a backdraft into the body and you you be

backdraft into the body and you you be able to hide in fantasy for a while

able to hide in fantasy for a while whether that's high fantasy fiction

whether that's high fantasy fiction movies video games whever it might be

movies video games whever it might be internet gurus who Pi Piper like lead

internet gurus who Pi Piper like lead you into a representation of fantasy

you into a representation of fantasy that is actually supporting them and is

that is actually supporting them and is supporting their lifestyle you know um

supporting their lifestyle you know um don't do that access yourself on the

don't do that access yourself on the inside access the ancestral psyche

inside access the ancestral psyche access the genome that's interested in

access the genome that's interested in the future you'll then be able to

the future you'll then be able to consolidate yourself

consolidate yourself adaptively um which is the last thing

adaptively um which is the last thing that these forces of Oppression will

that these forces of Oppression will want you to do superbly well stated I'd

want you to do superbly well stated I'd like to I suppose emphasize to anybody

like to I suppose emphasize to anybody watching this that it it's really

watching this that it it's really beneficial to do an a conscious audit of

beneficial to do an a conscious audit of your self-concept to to try and identify

your self-concept to to try and identify any suggestion that is still there

any suggestion that is still there unconsciously not within immediate

unconsciously not within immediate awareness because these things can take

awareness because these things can take hold and then they can perseverate and

hold and then they can perseverate and take on different representational forms

take on different representational forms this is part of the personal myth

this is part of the personal myth process really or if you go through a

process really or if you go through a personal myth process this sort of comes

personal myth process this sort of comes along with it but just as an example we

along with it but just as an example we did a seminar recently didn't we where

did a seminar recently didn't we where it was mentioned by you guys about the

it was mentioned by you guys about the the the the problem of the internet a

the the the problem of the internet a new problem and that allows us to be in

new problem and that allows us to be in a sea of suggestion all day long if

a sea of suggestion all day long if we're so inclined and obviously that

we're so inclined and obviously that that's a new problem that people in the

that's a new problem that people in the past never had to deal with and I was

past never had to deal with and I was born in 1996 so I cannot remember what

born in 1996 so I cannot remember what it was like before computers came along

it was like before computers came along I can remember what it was like before

I can remember what it was like before the internet came along there is a small

the internet came along there is a small Gap and if I really go back to that it

Gap and if I really go back to that it was it was a it was a lifechanging it

was it was a it was a lifechanging it was it was immediate and I don't think I

was it was immediate and I don't think I really noticed it but being on the

really noticed it but being on the internet you your own your own complexes

internet you your own your own complexes I suppose will populate the internet

I suppose will populate the internet spheres that you go on to with things

spheres that you go on to with things that suit them often times and I'm

that suit them often times and I'm thinking of the average person's

thinking of the average person's Facebook wall or Instagram wall or

Facebook wall or Instagram wall or YouTube subscriptions box

YouTube subscriptions box H when how long ago did you click follow

H when how long ago did you click follow and how what's changed since then you

and how what's changed since then you because likely a lot of things would

because likely a lot of things would have changed since then but they're

have changed since then but they're going to be these um almost an external

going to be these um almost an external kind of complex State encoder in many

kind of complex State encoder in many ways um it really really is pernicious

ways um it really really is pernicious because like with internet gurus you

because like with internet gurus you could

could be even the YouTube algorithm delivering

be even the YouTube algorithm delivering one up I've heard this from quite a lot

one up I've heard this from quite a lot quite a lot of people they've been away

quite a lot of people they've been away from them for a while and there suddenly

from them for a while and there suddenly they serve something up and then they're

they serve something up and then they're back into it again that just reconst

back into it again that just reconst elates old complexes that first of all

elates old complexes that first of all become fantasy because it's not real the

become fantasy because it's not real the type of things that they speak on and

type of things that they speak on and then following Downstream from that

then following Downstream from that they're then stuck older problems and

they're then stuck older problems and then etc etc that kind of thing so I

then etc etc that kind of thing so I think it's really worthwhile people do a

think it's really worthwhile people do a conscious audit of this because it can

conscious audit of this because it can be really hidden and pernicious

be really hidden and pernicious yeah well yes absolutely James I mean

yeah well yes absolutely James I mean Facebook's called Facebook for a reason

Facebook's called Facebook for a reason isn't it um

isn't it um and yes you know the The Addictive kind

and yes you know the The Addictive kind of element of that of having what

of element of that of having what appears to be and this is just an

appears to be and this is just an example obviously there are many forms

example obviously there are many forms of of suggestion out there the

of of suggestion out there the appearance of having a window into

appearance of having a window into somebody else's life it you know is an

somebody else's life it you know is an illusion really you know we'll all know

illusion really you know we'll all know people obviously uh if we're on Facebook

people obviously uh if we're on Facebook for example and we have Facebook friends

for example and we have Facebook friends that will present a face to the world

that will present a face to the world and if we know them well or we know

and if we know them well or we know something about them behind the scenes

something about them behind the scenes we'll know very often that things are

we'll know very often that things are configured very differently to how

configured very differently to how they're presented and I know that sounds

they're presented and I know that sounds quite an obvious thing to say but as I

quite an obvious thing to say but as I think you're um pointing out James that

think you're um pointing out James that that we can we can be sucked in even at

that we can we can be sucked in even at that level if we're not careful if we're

that level if we're not careful if we're just kind of mindlessly scrolling

just kind of mindlessly scrolling through Facebook for example all sorts

through Facebook for example all sorts of things will be

of things will be um affecting us almost subliminally

um affecting us almost subliminally really without us realizing it uh and so

really without us realizing it uh and so in that sense you you can't really

in that sense you you can't really afford to be off guard even with

afford to be off guard even with something like that uh and a lot of

something like that uh and a lot of people utilize social media in that way

people utilize social media in that way to relax don't they they they they they

to relax don't they they they they they go on to it to come away from from work

go on to it to come away from from work thinking that they're kind of doing

thinking that they're kind of doing themselves a favor uh and you know

themselves a favor uh and you know arguably they're not and I actually know

arguably they're not and I actually know quite a few young people who are

quite a few young people who are deciding to come off it completely they

deciding to come off it completely they just absolutely sick to death of it um

just absolutely sick to death of it um what was it called before it was

what was it called before it was Facebook there was something else before

Facebook there was something else before Facebook wasn't there I can my space my

Facebook wasn't there I can my space my space yes yes yeah although and this is

space yes yes yeah although and this is where language is important again why

where language is important again why why you know why is it called that why

why you know why is it called that why is it called that as opposed to

is it called that as opposed to something else uh and why did one take

something else uh and why did one take off and not the other which is what

off and not the other which is what happened isn't it as I recall yeah so

happened isn't it as I recall yeah so there is there's something

there is there's something about you know the idea of of presenting

about you know the idea of of presenting social media in that way that is

social media in that way that is obviously attractive to people even if

obviously attractive to people even if it's only appealing to their

it's only appealing to their voyerism so that that's a relatively

voyerism so that that's a relatively obvious everyday inan example really of

obvious everyday inan example really of how we can get sucked into things but

how we can get sucked into things but the effects of that can be psychosomatic

the effects of that can be psychosomatic they can yes for all sorts of reasons

they can yes for all sorts of reasons even the posture a person takes how they

even the posture a person takes how they breathe if they're on the phone or on a

breathe if they're on the phone or on a machine uh and then take into account

machine uh and then take into account everything else that's informationally

everything else that's informationally represented within that how that's

represented within that how that's internalized as you said James and you

internalized as you said James and you said Paul this just kicks your complexes

said Paul this just kicks your complexes off yes and um you've done a narration

off yes and um you've done a narration in this video where I uh reply to

in this video where I uh reply to somebody about the extended mind um to

somebody about the extended mind um to just to to reference that what what I

just to to reference that what what I say to help the person to understand is

say to help the person to understand is that it extens is theoretically infinite

that it extens is theoretically infinite but there is a cut off point and the cut

but there is a cut off point and the cut point is at that point at which your

point is at that point at which your individual homeostasis is no longer

individual homeostasis is no longer affected but because we are embedded in

affected but because we are embedded in everything it's not just cognition it's

everything it's not just cognition it's the whole of us as a field of

the whole of us as a field of information extends way out um and

information extends way out um and social media so-called is an example of

social media so-called is an example of that because for all the reasons that

that because for all the reasons that you said that it gives you the illusion

you said that it gives you the illusion of an extension further than you but it

of an extension further than you but it is still influencing you it is and

is still influencing you it is and you're extended out into that yeah

you're extended out into that yeah where's the vanishing point of influence

where's the vanishing point of influence where where will it be for

where where will it be for someone where it can't touch them

someone where it can't touch them anymore it can't influence the

anymore it can't influence the homeostasis that's way out that's Way

homeostasis that's way out that's Way Beyond now um obviously uh events that

Beyond now um obviously uh events that occur within our own solar system the

occur within our own solar system the state of the Sun the the season that the

state of the Sun the the season that the intensity of the solar wind or solar

intensity of the solar wind or solar radiation uh simply the movement of the

radiation uh simply the movement of the Moon as well these things affect us

Moon as well these things affect us things beyond that effectors but with

things beyond that effectors but with decreasing effects so we are extended

decreasing effects so we are extended and we are embedded within the

and we are embedded within the environment um and therefore influence

environment um and therefore influence and suggestion move across the whole of

and suggestion move across the whole of that scale um and affect us in different

that scale um and affect us in different ways so um and there's there's four or

ways so um and there's there's four or tyrannis just as giv us welcome making

tyrannis just as giv us welcome making an appear on this side as well all right

an appear on this side as well all right probably the

probably the same the same fund the B

same the same fund the B um yeah well even that is an intrusion

um yeah well even that is an intrusion from the weather yeah which because it's

from the weather yeah which because it's related to is part of the extended mind

related to is part of the extended mind of any individual who connects to

of any individual who connects to it so the informational field the

it so the informational field the objective waveform of information is

objective waveform of information is

huge um but we can decide as you said James what about being conscious yeah

James what about being conscious yeah where do we set that limit point and say

where do we set that limit point and say thus far and no further and thus closer

thus far and no further and thus closer and no further uh but you extend

and no further uh but you extend internally into the genome and its

internally into the genome and its innate understanding The ancestral

innate understanding The ancestral psyche by metaphor um to establish

psyche by metaphor um to establish balance for ourselves Harmony for

balance for ourselves Harmony for ourselves now so we can move into the

ourselves now so we can move into the future so the idea of an an extended

future so the idea of an an extended mind which is a field phenomenon is not

mind which is a field phenomenon is not just embodied cognition that is such a

just embodied cognition that is such a horrendously collapsed piece of nonsense

horrendously collapsed piece of nonsense that you tend to get from

that you tend to get from academics um the lived experience of

academics um the lived experience of people of people is far more extended

people of people is far more extended than that um and you can direct

than that um and you can direct consciously your influence at so many

consciously your influence at so many different levels but be unconsciously

different levels but be unconsciously affected by so many things unless we

affected by so many things unless we manage those

manage those boundaries and the management of them is

boundaries and the management of them is really important it is I think one of

really important it is I think one of the potentially uh most dangerous kind

the potentially uh most dangerous kind of situations where we might open

of situations where we might open ourselves up to suggestion that that

ourselves up to suggestion that that would be harmful to us is where there's

would be harmful to us is where there's some kind of power differential yeah so

some kind of power differential yeah so obviously that that could be in

obviously that that could be in something like a a therapy relationship

something like a a therapy relationship uh it could be you know even just going

uh it could be you know even just going to C GP or it could be at a little bit

to C GP or it could be at a little bit more of a move from that so you allow

more of a move from that so you allow yourself to or you open yourself up to

yourself to or you open yourself up to suggestion from what might be happening

suggestion from what might be happening from your local government or your

from your local government or your central government for example so

central government for example so anywhere anywhere where there's a power

anywhere anywhere where there's a power gradient that that someone who uh is

gradient that that someone who uh is maybe not of good character or um just

maybe not of good character or um just decides to seize an opportunity to

decides to seize an opportunity to manipulate you in a particular way and

manipulate you in a particular way and you're You're vulnerable You're in a

you're You're vulnerable You're in a vulnerable state then clearly you in

vulnerable state then clearly you in that moment you are far more far more

that moment you are far more far more open to

open to suggestion you obviously if it's if it's

suggestion you obviously if it's if it's positive then that's potentially a good

positive then that's potentially a good thing but as I said earlier the way in

thing but as I said earlier the way in for positive and negative suggestion is

for positive and negative suggestion is the same it unfortunately so it's it's

the same it unfortunately so it's it's it's how we in the moment screen that

it's how we in the moment screen that out or or even uh you know were were

out or or even uh you know were were enough to know that it's operating so uh

enough to know that it's operating so uh we need thanks Paul we need EG strength

we need thanks Paul we need EG strength we do um which gives us a proper

we do um which gives us a proper boundary suggestion is influence

boundary suggestion is influence influence is a Field Effect you can uh

influence is a Field Effect you can uh be unconscious of the influences through

be unconscious of the influences through that extended field of mind if if we

that extended field of mind if if we want to use that

want to use that metaphorically um or you can be more

metaphorically um or you can be more conscious of it have proper EG strength

conscious of it have proper EG strength and then allow yourself to self-regulate

and then allow yourself to self-regulate not only internally but psychosocially

not only internally but psychosocially through how you understand information

through how you understand information is configuring in relationship to you

is configuring in relationship to you through

through suggestion um so that that's that's the

suggestion um so that that's that's the key ultimately that's going to be the

key ultimately that's going to be the key where do you begin where do you end

key where do you begin where do you end can you manage the boundary um can you

can you manage the boundary um can you work homeostasis properly across as much

work homeostasis properly across as much of that field as possible you'll need to

of that field as possible you'll need to move your energy into different

move your energy into different now again relative to external

now again relative to external influences and effects but you do have

influences and effects but you do have to understand you have a nature you have

to understand you have a nature you have a biology you have an ancestry and you

a biology you have an ancestry and you have an anticipation built into you for

have an anticipation built into you for having a healthy and adapted life if you

having a healthy and adapted life if you get coherent feeli coherent with that

get coherent feeli coherent with that you are then decoherent with negative

you are then decoherent with negative suggestion yeah uh and once you become

suggestion yeah uh and once you become coherent with a field you can start to

coherent with a field you can start to influence that

influence that field so anyone of like mind who is

field so anyone of like mind who is similarly um coherent with health will

similarly um coherent with health will detect you they will pick you up they'll

detect you they will pick you up they'll be drawn to you um just as if you go

be drawn to you um just as if you go into a negative field coherence and

into a negative field coherence and decoherence with health in other words

decoherence with health in other words you will start to draw negatives more

you will start to draw negatives more negatives towards you you will see to

negatives towards you you will see to deplete you and to dissolve your energy

deplete you and to dissolve your energy and information into something that they

and information into something that they can use for themselves so how you model

can use for themselves so how you model this is going to be really really

this is going to be really really important going forward I I think that

important going forward I I think that from what you're saying Steve and really

from what you're saying Steve and really I think people have to understand the

I think people have to understand the importance of intuition as a fundamental

importance of intuition as a fundamental aspect of Consciousness really because

aspect of Consciousness really because with these things they tend to register

with these things they tend to register at that level before we become properly

at that level before we become properly cognizant of them that's a really good

cognizant of them that's a really good point so people say all the time don't

point so people say all the time don't they I just I just felt things weren't

they I just I just felt things weren't quite right or I had to my gut instinct

quite right or I had to my gut instinct told me that you know to keep away from

told me that you know to keep away from that particular person and um we we have

that particular person and um we we have to become attuned to it I think in the

to become attuned to it I think in the right way we do that's that's a really

right way we do that's that's a really good point that Paul intuition as we

good point that Paul intuition as we model it uh following Yung but extending

model it uh following Yung but extending it basically is something which does not

it basically is something which does not represent itself directly because it

represent itself directly because it can't and it can't because we are

can't and it can't because we are limited in how we can perceive or app

limited in how we can perceive or app perceive the information that's latent

perceive the information that's latent within the intuitive field so it has to

within the intuitive field so it has to somaticize into our physiology our body

somaticize into our physiology our body has to become an emotion has to become a

has to become an emotion has to become a thought probably all three at different

thought probably all three at different levels of of expression but the

levels of of expression but the certainty is the key yeah the fact that

certainty is the key yeah the fact that this has dropped in now young called it

this has dropped in now young called it uh perception by way of the unconscious

uh perception by way of the unconscious but that's that was a reasonable

but that's that was a reasonable explanation given his model and given

explanation given his model and given the times within which he lived we would

the times within which he lived we would consider it to be consciousness of the

consider it to be consciousness of the field of information within the

field of information within the objective waveform that is outside of

objective waveform that is outside of our normal Consciousness but say

our normal Consciousness but say intuition cannot represent itself

intuition cannot represent itself usually directly because our perceptive

usually directly because our perceptive and apperceptive capacities are

and apperceptive capacities are compressed we have an A Miller number

compressed we have an A Miller number which processes data and we have an

which processes data and we have an internal understanding of processing

internal understanding of processing information which has a higher bandwidth

information which has a higher bandwidth than the the sensory based Miller number

than the the sensory based Miller number now it's the internal one that that you

now it's the internal one that that you can extend uh by using the right kind of

can extend uh by using the right kind of training

training um rather than to uh over amp your

um rather than to uh over amp your normal uh cognitive and sensory

normal uh cognitive and sensory databased melan number um so when you

databased melan number um so when you work on the inside you then become more

work on the inside you then become more receptive to intuition closer and closer

receptive to intuition closer and closer by increments to what it actually is in

by increments to what it actually is in and of itself and what that seems to be

and of itself and what that seems to be is base State ground state Consciousness

is base State ground state Consciousness as

as such and that's a very interesting uh

such and that's a very interesting uh path to allow yourself to follow because

path to allow yourself to follow because all sorts of things can come online for

all sorts of things can come online for you

you there it can sometimes G literally give

there it can sometimes G literally give you an instantaneous read on someone

you an instantaneous read on someone else's field can't it i' I've watched

else's field can't it i' I've watched you do it often um and uh I would say

you do it often um and uh I would say mostly it's been accurate yeah to be

mostly it's been accurate yeah to be honest with you yeah uh you literally

honest with you yeah uh you literally just get the shape of someone to use a

just get the shape of someone to use a metaphor and you just it just doesn't

metaphor and you just it just doesn't feel right for whatever reason you won't

feel right for whatever reason you won't necessarily know what the reason is when

necessarily know what the reason is when you're having the reaction but like you

you're having the reaction but like you say it's a first step isn't it towards

say it's a first step isn't it towards it's a first step that might be on sight

it's a first step that might be on sight yes um or at least the

yes um or at least the intuition instantiates within the

intuition instantiates within the perception of sight yeah and then you

perception of sight yeah and then you might say the person might say I did not

might say the person might say I did not like the look of that person the B of

like the look of that person the B of than it doesn't like it is an affective

than it doesn't like it is an affective level of Consciousness but the

level of Consciousness but the understanding is intuitive but the

understanding is intuitive but the person's conscious mind is I saw the

person's conscious mind is I saw the data yeah and it's as if the data has

data yeah and it's as if the data has made them conscious in all of these

made them conscious in all of these other ways Downstream of that that

other ways Downstream of that that representation within sight what we

representation within sight what we would say though is no it's intuition

would say though is no it's intuition the

the intuition uh manifested in the moment

intuition uh manifested in the moment that the sensory information

that the sensory information simultaneously to it and added to it

simultaneously to it and added to it which then garnered and affective and

which then garnered and affective and and following that kind of a cognitive

and following that kind of a cognitive understanding of what they saw and I say

understanding of what they saw and I say this because we can have intuitions that

this because we can have intuitions that are not based on immediate experience or

are not based on immediate experience or memory but of an anticipated experience

memory but of an anticipated experience based on what we hear and we might not

based on what we hear and we might not hear very much we have very limited

hear very much we have very limited information there's going to be a

information there's going to be a meeting or someone's going to be where

meeting or someone's going to be where and you get a perception that registers

and you get a perception that registers somatically affectively cognitively

somatically affectively cognitively verbally this doesn't feel right and

verbally this doesn't feel right and where's that really come from it's not

where's that really come from it's not come from the the the the senses at all

come from the the the the senses at all uh it's come out a higher register a

uh it's come out a higher register a field register of understanding and

field register of understanding and collapses into those different

collapses into those different modalities we we we would we call them

modalities we we we would we call them meta

meta qualia so intuition is a meta qualia

qualia so intuition is a meta qualia within which all these other qualia

within which all these other qualia philosophers go on about can take their

philosophers go on about can take their representational form but the metalia is

representational form but the metalia is the regulator of it in a specific

the regulator of it in a specific category so cognition is a metac qualia

category so cognition is a metac qualia um sensory data is a metalia that that's

um sensory data is a metalia that that's the usual one that that philosophers go

the usual one that that philosophers go for and collapse into things like the

for and collapse into things like the color

color red uh whereas the the overall

red uh whereas the the overall understanding of what can be perceived

understanding of what can be perceived through the senses the understanding of

through the senses the understanding of that is a metac qualia of Consciousness

that is a metac qualia of Consciousness and of perception which then immediately

and of perception which then immediately constellates a perception internally

constellates a perception internally beyond the data that's within the senses

beyond the data that's within the senses uh which can be interpreted affectively

uh which can be interpreted affectively that is emotionally or cognitively again

that is emotionally or cognitively again all of this is going on way outside of

all of this is going on way outside of our Mill number we are aware of

our Mill number we are aware of representations as a field so

representations as a field so understanding um metalia as field

understanding um metalia as field representations is really important and

representations is really important and the basic one is intuition because it

the basic one is intuition because it can do anything that all the others do

can do anything that all the others do and

and more so handling your intuition and

more so handling your intuition and working internally is a great way of

working internally is a great way of getting outside of an unpleasant

getting outside of an unpleasant situation without going into fantasy

situation without going into fantasy it's looking for a solution not a pseudo

it's looking for a solution not a pseudo representation of an alternative state

representation of an alternative state that I'd rather be in it's more

that I'd rather be in it's more interested in a solution and this

interested in a solution and this manifests itself in affective

manifests itself in affective Neuroscience is the seeking system the

Neuroscience is the seeking system the seeking system is very close to

seeking system is very close to intuition as where you model it but most

intuition as where you model it but most neuros pycho analysts don't make that

neuros pycho analysts don't make that step they're far too mechanistic and

step they're far too mechanistic and reductive and uh concerned with um

reductive and uh concerned with um specific Pathways within the brain

specific Pathways within the brain neurophysiological Pathways uh within

neurophysiological Pathways uh within which intuition takes root for it

which intuition takes root for it expression and we don't call it

expression and we don't call it seeking so understanding field

seeking so understanding field informational qualia info Dynamics as we

informational qualia info Dynamics as we refer to them as an extension of

refer to them as an extension of psychodynamics it's hugely important if

psychodynamics it's hugely important if you want to increase your Consciousness

you want to increase your Consciousness and your

and your adaptations in this section Steve and

adaptations in this section Steve and Pauline are going to speak on becoming

Pauline are going to speak on becoming in resonance with a future State rather

in resonance with a future State rather than being in resonance with the past or

than being in resonance with the past or even fully with the present the future

even fully with the present the future being in resonance with the future is

being in resonance with the future is the most important thing for someone and

the most important thing for someone and their instincts to move towards before

their instincts to move towards before we get there though I'd like to share

we get there though I'd like to share with you a clip from a recent ipsa

with you a clip from a recent ipsa professional training seminar

professional training seminar specifically on Steve and Pauline's

specifically on Steve and Pauline's model of deep structure complexes deep

model of deep structure complexes deep structure complexes come up in the

structure complexes come up in the conversation very soon so we thought

conversation very soon so we thought that it would be a really good idea to

that it would be a really good idea to share this here I'll see you on the

share this here I'll see you on the other side deep structure complexes as

other side deep structure complexes as you said before they they solve the Gap

you said before they they solve the Gap problem and the Gap problem specifically

problem and the Gap problem specifically between the ego the ego field broadly

between the ego the ego field broadly complex field broadly and the

complex field broadly and the philogenetic or the ancestral

philogenetic or the ancestral psyche if there was nothing between

psyche if there was nothing between those two nothing would stop an ego

those two nothing would stop an ego going inside and going straight into the

going inside and going straight into the ancestral

ancestral psyche that's that would be debilitating

psyche that's that would be debilitating that would be dangerous that would mean

that would be dangerous that would mean that there's no forgive me for I suppose

that there's no forgive me for I suppose mechanistic language with this but

mechanistic language with this but there'd be no relay of information to

there'd be no relay of information to control the information flow between

control the information flow between what's personal and individual to

what's personal and individual to somebody that being the field of the ego

somebody that being the field of the ego versus the things that we share as a

versus the things that we share as a species The ancestral psyche The

species The ancestral psyche The ancestral psyche very different in Quia

ancestral psyche very different in Quia sorry Marcel were you just a question

sorry Marcel were you just a question when when you say ancestor psyche does

when when you say ancestor psyche does it mean meta instincts or what does what

it mean meta instincts or what does what level are we talking about yeah meta

level are we talking about yeah meta instincts and pepian instincts would Psy

instincts and pepian instincts would Psy so well I mean we can see this from a

so well I mean we can see this from a biological P perspective we're all

biological P perspective we're all humans we all we all do human things and

humans we all we all do human things and we can't not do human things but we're

we can't not do human things but we're all

all individuals so everyone's different to

individuals so everyone's different to each other but they're also the same at

each other but they're also the same at a deep structure

a deep structure level being being a human the

level being being a human the psychological representation of that

psychological representation of that innate constitution of the species is

innate constitution of the species is the ancestral psyche so yeah you can

the ancestral psyche so yeah you can fractionate that down into panpan

fractionate that down into panpan Instinct and meta

Instinct and meta Instinct um then there there equivalence

Instinct um then there there equivalence here the functional equivalence I

here the functional equivalence I suppose Anthony Stevens spoke on the

suppose Anthony Stevens spoke on the philogenetic psyche and in that sense he

philogenetic psyche and in that sense he was very interested in the archetypes

was very interested in the archetypes yong's archetypes being present there

yong's archetypes being present there and he Blended that very nicely with the

and he Blended that very nicely with the work of the ethologists and with

work of the ethologists and with evolutionary

evolutionary biology so he changed the word

biology so he changed the word Collective unconscious y's term into

Collective unconscious y's term into philogenetic psyche because it's a

philogenetic psyche because it's a phenetic psyche it's an phenetic

phenetic psyche it's an phenetic essentially just means evolutionary

essentially just means evolutionary Steven Paulin is more ramified than that

Steven Paulin is more ramified than that and there are these two different tax

and there are these two different tax yeah meta instincts and ppan

yeah meta instincts and ppan instance and the ancestral psyche is

instance and the ancestral psyche is very different let's just say in in in

very different let's just say in in in qualia very broad term I know but it's

qualia very broad term I know but it's very different to the field of the ego

very different to the field of the ego there has to be something between the

there has to be something between the two of them homeostatically Med

two of them homeostatically Med mediating the information that moves

mediating the information that moves between

between them and if an ego was so inclined and

them and if an ego was so inclined and wished to turn inwards and try and

wished to turn inwards and try and contact the ancestral psyche

contact the ancestral psyche deliberately through for example

deliberately through for example hypnosis there would need to be a check

hypnosis there would need to be a check in place from the no EG

in place from the no EG psyche to see if the egoo was in a fit

psyche to see if the egoo was in a fit enough state to experience the ancestral

enough state to experience the ancestral psyche to be able to be updated because

psyche to be able to be updated because you can imagine an egoo would need to

you can imagine an egoo would need to have significant strength EG strength be

have significant strength EG strength be homeostatic and adapted enough to the

homeostatic and adapted enough to the outside world before it's going to be

outside world before it's going to be allowed access in that kind of way

allowed access in that kind of way directed in a work to the ancestral

directed in a work to the ancestral psyche if not the egoo experience

psyche if not the egoo experience something that completely throws it over

something that completely throws it over and it loses it external reality

and it loses it external reality adaptation straight away you know go

adaptation straight away you know go psychotic in in extreme cases so there

psychotic in in extreme cases so there has to be something mediating that that

has to be something mediating that that structure is the Deep structure complex

structure is the Deep structure complex or deep structure complexes existing as

or deep structure complexes existing as a

a field and there are there are there's a

field and there are there are there's a gradient to its function so the one that

gradient to its function so the one that you you have seen Steven Pauline in the

you you have seen Steven Pauline in the past emphas the

past emphas the most um is its function of reflecting

most um is its function of reflecting back to the ego the 's

back to the ego the 's adaptation from the perspective of the

adaptation from the perspective of the non- egos pych that's really important

non- egos pych that's really important because that is the immediate uh

because that is the immediate uh response that the unconscious so-called

response that the unconscious so-called the non- psyche has to internal

the non- psyche has to internal projection and internal projection is

projection and internal projection is rif today in our era of the internet uh

rif today in our era of the internet uh Steve's pointed this out before I think

Steve's pointed this out before I think we said in a seminar recently the

we said in a seminar recently the internet allows for essentially an

internet allows for essentially an infinite amount of suggestive stuff

infinite amount of suggestive stuff models of stuff to saturate the ego in

models of stuff to saturate the ego in its understanding of itself then the ego

its understanding of itself then the ego will just project that

will just project that inwards so if the ego is doing that

inwards so if the ego is doing that internally projecting expecting to find

internally projecting expecting to find whatever in these non- egos psyche

whatever in these non- egos psyche classical ones obviously are yung's

classical ones obviously are yung's model of the psyche even 's model of the

model of the psyche even 's model of the psyche or more philosophical models of

psyche or more philosophical models of the psyche what whatever it is if

the psyche what whatever it is if someone looks inside and expects to find

someone looks inside and expects to find their Shadow because they've been told

their Shadow because they've been told it's going to be there they're going to

it's going to be there they're going to meet with their Shadow not not a real

meet with their Shadow not not a real Shadow but that mirrored back to them

Shadow but that mirrored back to them because that keeps the ego occupied with

because that keeps the ego occupied with itself in a fantasy holding space to

itself in a fantasy holding space to protect it from going any further

protect it from going any further because an Eggo that's doing that is not

because an Eggo that's doing that is not in a fit enough State reflexive State

in a fit enough State reflexive State adaptive state

adaptive state to adapt to the outside lot so that

to adapt to the outside lot so that function has to be there that's the

function has to be there that's the first thing a deep structure complex

first thing a deep structure complex will do if the ego isn't doing that so

will do if the ego isn't doing that so much or if the ego has greater EG

much or if the ego has greater EG strength they they a step on from just

strength they they a step on from just internally projecting stuff over the

internally projecting stuff over the side you then a deep structure complex

side you then a deep structure complex will take on more of a psychopomp role

will take on more of a psychopomp role the psychopomp role then is its purpose

the psychopomp role then is its purpose is to then lead progressively but lead

is to then lead progressively but lead the ego into a great

the ego into a great understanding of itself in relationship

understanding of itself in relationship to the non-o psyche to help it move into

to the non-o psyche to help it move into a fit enough state so that it can then

a fit enough state so that it can then receive as you said The Meta

receive as you said The Meta instincts from The ancestral psyche so

instincts from The ancestral psyche so it has to be Progressive so that's that

it has to be Progressive so that's that in in a very quick sense that's what

in in a very quick sense that's what deep structure complexes evolved for

deep structure complexes evolved for their homeostatic mediators that will

their homeostatic mediators that will protect the ego by keeping it out from

protect the ego by keeping it out from me from the ancestral psyche or can help

me from the ancestral psyche or can help psychopomp lead the ego towards a state

psychopomp lead the ego towards a state where it can receive meta instincts and

where it can receive meta instincts and update itself deliberately from the

update itself deliberately from the inside something I mean stepen Pauline

inside something I mean stepen Pauline have emphasized that there are different

have emphasized that there are different ways of accessing meta instincts that

ways of accessing meta instincts that way is a is a so going inside for

way is a is a so going inside for example with hypnosis is one way of

example with hypnosis is one way of doing it that's to try and deliberately

doing it that's to try and deliberately access but they can also emerge

access but they can also emerge spontaneously too so it's it's not as if

spontaneously too so it's it's not as if the ego has to

the ego has to deliberately work with deep structure

deliberately work with deep structure complexes if they're going to access the

complexes if they're going to access the ancestral psyche that's that's not true

ancestral psyche that's that's not true it's only for an EG who is concerned

it's only for an EG who is concerned with going inside and accessing those

with going inside and accessing those things for itself as traditions and

things for itself as traditions and cultures have tried to do forever since

cultures have tried to do forever since the dawn of time under different names

the dawn of time under different names so you ask for an an example an example

so you ask for an an example an example that Steve has given several times

that Steve has given several times before are these wrathful deities within

before are these wrathful deities within tantric

tantric Buddhism um and I'm I'm hesitant to want

Buddhism um and I'm I'm hesitant to want to explain that because I have no direct

to explain that because I have no direct experience of

experience of tantrism uh but essentially if I can do

tantrism uh but essentially if I can do the best job that I can the tantric

the best job that I can the tantric tradition teaches the practitioner that

tradition teaches the practitioner that when they encounter these so-called

when they encounter these so-called wrathful deities on the inside they're

wrathful deities on the inside they're not real and they have created them so

not real and they have created them so they're

they're representations of themselves that can

representations of themselves that can be worked with to transmute the energy

be worked with to transmute the energy that's within them to what's then behind

that's within them to what's then behind them so deep structure complexes exist

them so deep structure complexes exist in that form within Tantra but you see

in that form within Tantra but you see them constantly in more or less any myth

them constantly in more or less any myth that you come across any guardian of a

that you come across any guardian of a gate any a character that will take

gate any a character that will take somebody across a river that that that

somebody across a river that that that kind of thing someone who asks a riddle

kind of thing someone who asks a riddle of say the protagonist and the

of say the protagonist and the protagonist has to answer in the right

protagonist has to answer in the right way that would be they' be examples of

way that would be they' be examples of deep structure complexes because they

deep structure complexes because they they move the ego from one place to

they move the ego from one place to another which is synonymous in narrative

another which is synonymous in narrative representation or form within a greater

representation or form within a greater updating of consciousness of oneself who

updating of consciousness of oneself who they are who they're not too so that's

they are who they're not too so that's updating the self-image perhaps broadly

updating the self-image perhaps broadly and that in relation to the non-ego site

and that in relation to the non-ego site hopefully that clip helped explain what

hopefully that clip helped explain what a deep structure complex is if you'd

a deep structure complex is if you'd like more information on deep structure

like more information on deep structure complex is they tend to come up

complex is they tend to come up essentially in all of the videos that

essentially in all of the videos that we've done recently beginning roughly

we've done recently beginning roughly around approaching the unconscious and

around approaching the unconscious and entering the unconscious that we did

entering the unconscious that we did towards the end of

towards the end of 2022 there's also a narrated Discord

2022 there's also a narrated Discord post shortly after this section

post shortly after this section timestamped below that explains what

timestamped below that explains what deep structure complexes are too

deep structure complexes are too directly from Steve Richards so before

directly from Steve Richards so before we move back to Steve and Pauline now

we move back to Steve and Pauline now I'd just like to show you a schema on

I'd just like to show you a schema on screen

screen that perhaps helps explain what's going

that perhaps helps explain what's going to come up next you see every single

to come up next you see every single person is living in the present moment

person is living in the present moment and everybody has a past that's where

and everybody has a past that's where complexes prefer to live and those are

complexes prefer to live and those are the conditions which complexes like to

the conditions which complexes like to reconst and we also all have a

reconst and we also all have a future and past present and future we

future and past present and future we can say are all in field resonance with

can say are all in field resonance with each other but when somebody is under

each other but when somebody is under the the influence of a complex such as a

the the influence of a complex such as a complex that formed under conditions of

complex that formed under conditions of acute or chronic trauma then the person

acute or chronic trauma then the person when that complex is active is more in

when that complex is active is more in resonance with their past than their

resonance with their past than their future but it is possible specifically

future but it is possible specifically through directed inner work and Steve

through directed inner work and Steve will explain more on that in just a

will explain more on that in just a moment but through directed inner work

moment but through directed inner work somebody can become in resonance with a

somebody can become in resonance with a future state

future state and not just any future state but the

and not just any future state but the future state that their genome the

future state that their genome the genome's fields and the wider field

genome's fields and the wider field itself anticipates for that person and

itself anticipates for that person and in becoming within conscious resonance

in becoming within conscious resonance with a future State we can help resolve

with a future State we can help resolve things that are either hanging around in

things that are either hanging around in the present or we've brought with us

the present or we've brought with us from the past this is something which

from the past this is something which people will need training and guidance

people will need training and guidance for but I'm going to outline the theory

for but I'm going to outline the theory and explain how I've used that

and explain how I've used that myself

myself um with respect to an informational

um with respect to an informational field model then and when we consider

field model then and when we consider the dimension of

the dimension of time and if we put that into the context

time and if we put that into the context of some versions of quantum physics

of some versions of quantum physics quantum mechanics as they currently

quantum mechanics as they currently iterated the suggestion is the past

iterated the suggestion is the past present and future exist

present and future exist simultaneously but there's something

simultaneously but there's something about our conscious ious that only picks

about our conscious ious that only picks up the arrow of time that we're normally

up the arrow of time that we're normally aware

aware of that's a key thing to

of that's a key thing to consider there's something about our

consider there's something about our Consciousness which under ordinary

Consciousness which under ordinary conditions only experiences the

conditions only experiences the immediacy of the moments and then the

immediacy of the moments and then the arrow of time is proceeding from what we

arrow of time is proceeding from what we understand to be the present and into

understand to be the present and into the future but with a recollection of

the future but with a recollection of the past as normally understood in

the past as normally understood in Psychology for example in neuroscience

Psychology for example in neuroscience but of course there are all kinds of

but of course there are all kinds of anecdotal and even some laboratory

anecdotal and even some laboratory experiences that people can have and

experiences that people can have and everyday experiences that suggest that

everyday experiences that suggest that access to the past and even to the

access to the past and even to the future is accessible to our

future is accessible to our understanding and our Consciousness

understanding and our Consciousness under certain

under certain conditions now the most familiar ones

conditions now the most familiar ones are going to be

are going to be precognition part psychology dreams that

precognition part psychology dreams that come true in part or in whole that kind

come true in part or in whole that kind of thing um the the usual topics if you

of thing um the the usual topics if you like for

like for parapsychology now despite the

parapsychology now despite the skepticism that is around over that

skepticism that is around over that these things occur I know it's occurred

these things occur I know it's occurred to me and it has occurred and I have

to me and it has occurred and I have absolutely no doubt about that and James

absolutely no doubt about that and James you know don't you that when we work as

you know don't you that when we work as we do uh in depth with the psyche then

we do uh in depth with the psyche then what happens is typically as soon as you

what happens is typically as soon as you go past the a certain point all sorts of

go past the a certain point all sorts of paranormal parapsychological phenomenon

paranormal parapsychological phenomenon become ordinary they become

become ordinary they become familiar so what this would suggest then

familiar so what this would suggest then is that if Consciousness is able under

is that if Consciousness is able under specific conditions random natural

specific conditions random natural conditions sometimes to access the

conditions sometimes to access the future as if the future were now or have

future as if the future were now or have some kind of far sight into the

some kind of far sight into the past then if you were entrained to

past then if you were entrained to receive that you would be able to

receive that you would be able to position not only your conscious mind

position not only your conscious mind but your embedded Mind Body field into a

but your embedded Mind Body field into a future or a past State relative to the

future or a past State relative to the present now why is this

present now why is this important well recently I I came down

important well recently I I came down with covid and it was pretty bad I mean

with covid and it was pretty bad I mean this is very recently this is a matter

this is very recently this is a matter of a just just well I I was in it until

of a just just well I I was in it until a few days

a few days ago and

ago and uh I was desperate because of the

uh I was desperate because of the strength of the symptoms that I was

strength of the symptoms that I was going to have to try to do something

going to have to try to do something something um to bring myself into

something um to bring myself into resonance field resonance with an

resonance field resonance with an anticipated future state where I

anticipated future state where I wouldn't have covid but not specifically

wouldn't have covid but not specifically just that more specifically that my

just that more specifically that my immune system would become coherent with

immune system would become coherent with a future State wherein it had already

a future State wherein it had already dealt with the condition that I

dealt with the condition that I had now the reason I was interested in

had now the reason I was interested in attempting to do this was that in the

attempting to do this was that in the past when I've messed with my immune

past when I've messed with my immune system with respect to um boosting it

system with respect to um boosting it I've been far too good at it and I've

I've been far too good at it and I've put myself into a worse State than I I

put myself into a worse State than I I should have been in and now I learned

should have been in and now I learned not to do that a long time ago probably

not to do that a long time ago probably 25 years ago and the last time when I uh

25 years ago and the last time when I uh when I was in a fever State I thought

when I was in a fever State I thought I'm going to going to try and beat this

I'm going to going to try and beat this by boosting my immune system using Rossy

by boosting my immune system using Rossy style hypnosis dissociation and so forth

style hypnosis dissociation and so forth all I did is make the whole bloody thing

all I did is make the whole bloody thing worse because the reaction from the

worse because the reaction from the immune system was augmented to the point

immune system was augmented to the point where I became more more ill than I was

where I became more more ill than I was uh but I realized that and then I

uh but I realized that and then I reversed it that kind of put me off as

reversed it that kind of put me off as you might

you might imagine but in this uh in this instance

imagine but in this uh in this instance I thought is it

I thought is it possible can I possibly imagine what it

possible can I possibly imagine what it would be like and then get to a f

would be like and then get to a f coherent state

coherent state where and this is going to sound like

where and this is going to sound like woooo where my immune system did not

woooo where my immune system did not have to ramp itself up in order to

have to ramp itself up in order to defeat the virus the co virus covid-19

defeat the virus the co virus covid-19 this present experation because it had

this present experation because it had already done it so in other words then

already done it so in other words then the immune system would now configure in

the immune system would now configure in the present in the same way that it is

the present in the same way that it is already in the

already in the future uh and therefore not have to go

future uh and therefore not have to go through the normal processes that the

through the normal processes that the immune system would have to do to boost

immune system would have to do to boost itself and to affect you and make you

itself and to affect you and make you even feel worse uh to achieve that

even feel worse uh to achieve that state now that was the plan and how did

state now that was the plan and how did I get that plan well um before I had

I get that plan well um before I had even thought about doing it I did a self

even thought about doing it I did a self hypnosis uh session on on myself and

hypnosis uh session on on myself and admittedly I was very unwell when I did

admittedly I was very unwell when I did it but you know I thought I'm going to

it but you know I thought I'm going to have to do this opened myself up in in

have to do this opened myself up in in the usual way and it was an extremely

the usual way and it was an extremely powerful

powerful experience um that was more dreamlike

experience um that was more dreamlike although I was awake but the content of

although I was awake but the content of it was very very much like an intense

it was very very much like an intense lucid

lucid dream and within that there was a figure

dream and within that there was a figure who I knew not in real life but but I

who I knew not in real life but but I knew um what this person stood for I'll

knew um what this person stood for I'll come to that in a

come to that in a minute and uh it was such an intense

minute and uh it was such an intense experience I could see had a an apple

experience I could see had a an apple green velvet jacket

green velvet jacket on uh with a long gray hair and a

on uh with a long gray hair and a fluffed up

fluffed up shirt quite a kind but lined

shirt quite a kind but lined face and uh he said to me you're

face and uh he said to me you're forgetting one thing you're forgetting

forgetting one thing you're forgetting the dimension of

the dimension of time and there is a future state which

time and there is a future state which is there now the presently you're not

is there now the presently you're not fully coherent with within which this

fully coherent with within which this will be dealt

will be dealt with and then he gets out this device

with and then he gets out this device and he scan me with it and he he says

and he scan me with it and he he says yes yes there it is it's there it's not

yes yes there it is it's there it's not there

there Etc um this is real he actually said

Etc um this is real he actually said this is real and this is what you must

this is real and this is what you must do and what he did by passing this

do and what he did by passing this device over me was to tell me it wasn't

device over me was to tell me it wasn't in my lungs it wasn't in the heart it

in my lungs it wasn't in the heart it was in my stomach uh and it was in my

was in my stomach uh and it was in my brain uh and also my upper Limbs and uh

brain uh and also my upper Limbs and uh that's where that's where the immune

that's where that's where the immune system was was operating but it hadn't

system was was operating but it hadn't penetrated into my lungs hadn't affected

penetrated into my lungs hadn't affected my

my heart uh so he he looked at me again

heart uh so he he looked at me again very very directly and

very very directly and said it's the dimension of

said it's the dimension of time and uh I remember I came out with a

time and uh I remember I came out with a start and I thought my God what he's

start and I thought my God what he's telling me is that's the thing that I'm

telling me is that's the thing that I'm not considering there is a future stat

not considering there is a future stat within which if I survive that um my

within which if I survive that um my immune system would have dealt with it

immune system would have dealt with it but that's in the future not in the

but that's in the future not in the present what went wrong for me last time

present what went wrong for me last time was messing around with my immune system

was messing around with my immune system in the present by turbocharging it using

in the present by turbocharging it using hypnosis VI the Rossy psychon

hypnosis VI the Rossy psychon neuroimmunological Pathways to to

neuroimmunological Pathways to to generate a heightened immune response

generate a heightened immune response right now which of course just made

right now which of course just made everything worse but if I could move my

everything worse but if I could move my immune system into a future state where

immune system into a future state where this has been dealt with um so it was

this has been dealt with um so it was field coherence it would be as if that

field coherence it would be as if that future immunological profile was present

future immunological profile was present in me now that me having to do that

in me now that me having to do that dangerous work of going through the

dangerous work of going through the process of getting to it now normally of

process of getting to it now normally of course that would be considered to be

course that would be considered to be impossible but uh I did another self

impossible but uh I did another self hypnosis and then there were three

hypnosis and then there were three domains uh represented for me past

domains uh represented for me past present and future and the interaction

present and future and the interaction and the feeli coherence between the

and the feeli coherence between the three so I utilized the the methods that

three so I utilized the the methods that I use for self hypnosis the ones that

I use for self hypnosis the ones that you you are familiar with James to

you you are familiar with James to access the future State and to make it

access the future State and to make it coherent with the present and there

coherent with the present and there wouldn't be any need to feel worse about

wouldn't be any need to feel worse about this because that future immune state is

this because that future immune state is effectively immune to what I'm going

effectively immune to what I'm going through now so it would have already

through now so it would have already dealt with the virus it would have it

dealt with the virus it would have it would have dealt with it and it's gone

would have dealt with it and it's gone now this sounds like woooo doesn't it

now this sounds like woooo doesn't it but once you're embedded within this and

but once you're embedded within this and you get those uh those field responses I

you get those uh those field responses I mean point will tell you I was really

mean point will tell you I was really bad on that day wasn't I I was

bad on that day wasn't I I was absolutely desperately bad with this

absolutely desperately bad with this thing um so I did it um and uh the the

thing um so I did it um and uh the the image the what we would call a deep

image the what we would call a deep structure representative complex had

structure representative complex had gone it done its purpose and i' moved

gone it done its purpose and i' moved into a state where I

into a state where I believed through the dimension of time

believed through the dimension of time that I could access a future State my

that I could access a future State my immune system and bring it into field

immune system and bring it into field coherence next morning burning a minus

coherence next morning burning a minus was about 1:00 a.m. that was absolutely

was about 1:00 a.m. that was absolutely fine now that may be a

fine now that may be a coincidence but the technique is

coincidence but the technique is something which is familiar or should be

something which is familiar or should be familiar to anybody who's trained with

familiar to anybody who's trained with us with hypnosis the idea about moving

us with hypnosis the idea about moving into future States becoming coherent

into future States becoming coherent with them and then over time we move

with them and then over time we move into a further deeper coherence with a

into a further deeper coherence with a future

future State the advantage of this over things

State the advantage of this over things like trauma is

like trauma is that trauma is either past or present

that trauma is either past or present and if we generate an impression of it

and if we generate an impression of it in the future then we start to react now

in the future then we start to react now and anticipate the future and move

and anticipate the future and move towards it as if that TR still

towards it as if that TR still active if we can move a coherent

active if we can move a coherent state in the present into one which is

state in the present into one which is actually existing in the future and make

actually existing in the future and make them the same then we actually go past

them the same then we actually go past we move away from it now I've I've used

we move away from it now I've I've used this you know this James I've used this

this you know this James I've used this with the typical bioc psychosocial

with the typical bioc psychosocial presentation of complexes but I as I

presentation of complexes but I as I said before I kind of fought shy of

said before I kind of fought shy of doing it with respect to the immune

doing it with respect to the immune system because of what I did to myself

system because of what I did to myself uh 25 years ago uh but this time uh it

uh 25 years ago uh but this time uh it seemed to have uh an immediate effect

seemed to have uh an immediate effect without me feeling any ill effects

without me feeling any ill effects because I'd moved into that di or i'

because I'd moved into that di or i' taken into account that dimension of

taken into account that dimension of time that I had not taken into account

before so so long as I survived there would be a future state where this would

would be a future state where this would be dealt with and then when that field

be dealt with and then when that field informational coherence is

informational coherence is established then it would be as if the

established then it would be as if the immune system knew what its future state

immune system knew what its future state was be can't goer with that I was unable

was be can't goer with that I was unable immediately to deal with the virus

immediately to deal with the virus without overloading me physiologically

without overloading me physiologically in the moment because it's as if the

in the moment because it's as if the moment had been skipped and we were

moment had been skipped and we were already in the future now this may sound

already in the future now this may sound as I say really strange but there's so

as I say really strange but there's so much you can do in hypnosis which is

much you can do in hypnosis which is very very powerful for so many

very very powerful for so many dissociative effects as you know

dissociative effects as you know amputations have been done under

amputations have been done under hypnosis so there's a complete

hypnosis so there's a complete dissociation from immediate moment

dissociation from immediate moment people with severe burns if they are put

people with severe burns if they are put into a hyp IC TR the healing is faster

into a hyp IC TR the healing is faster the scarring is reduced all sorts of

the scarring is reduced all sorts of things like that are potentially

things like that are potentially possible so in that desperation of you

possible so in that desperation of you know and then when I I received that

know and then when I I received that image that deep structure complex

image that deep structure complex representation and it's not somebody I

representation and it's not somebody I would have uh consciously gone looking

would have uh consciously gone looking for which is interesting but he's part

for which is interesting but he's part of a a scenario which is familiar to me

of a a scenario which is familiar to me but I wouldn't have chosen this guy but

but I wouldn't have chosen this guy but this guy has

this guy has some some elements to him that uh in

some some elements to him that uh in these uh the fictional situations that

these uh the fictional situations that he he would find himself in as a

he he would find himself in as a character he was extremely

character he was extremely practical and wouldn't allow himself to

practical and wouldn't allow himself to be fluffed by

be fluffed by anything um everything was as it was and

anything um everything was as it was and therefore you can do something so in

therefore you can do something so in that but the missing thing is that he

that but the missing thing is that he represents a dimension of time and the

represents a dimension of time and the movement Through Time backwards and

movement Through Time backwards and forwards so as he is in effect a time

forwards so as he is in effect a time traveler he exists in the past the

traveler he exists in the past the present and the future if he exists in

present and the future if he exists in the future then wherever he's State he's

the future then wherever he's State he's in in the present it you know it's not

in in the present it you know it's not going to stop him he will exist in the

going to stop him he will exist in the future so the analog then was adopted

future so the analog then was adopted and put into process via our

and put into process via our psychobiological hypnotic methods which

psychobiological hypnotic methods which we've derived from Rossy and modified

we've derived from Rossy and modified somewhat so we brought I attempted to

somewhat so we brought I attempted to bring the the future into the present in

bring the the future into the present in a field coherent way so the immune

a field coherent way so the immune system had already done its job and

system had already done its job and didn't have to overload itself on me

didn't have to overload itself on me which is a night's move on a virus

which is a night's move on a virus that's absolutely amazing that's really

that's absolutely amazing that's really really amazing thank you for sharing

really amazing thank you for sharing that it's incredible isn't it but I I'm

that it's incredible isn't it but I I'm only sharing it because it happened and

only sharing it because it happened and Bing saw the the state that I was in I

Bing saw the the state that I was in I was in a terrible State uh trying to

was in a terrible State uh trying to fight this thing and the fact that it

fight this thing and the fact that it went uh it's quite

went uh it's quite remarkable well you went with it I mean

remarkable well you went with it I mean you were you were gifted that really

you were you were gifted that really weren't you yeah and um had you ignored

weren't you yeah and um had you ignored it or had you um maybe tried to override

it or had you um maybe tried to override it or amplify it in in in the wrong way

it or amplify it in in in the wrong way you wouldn't have received the message

you wouldn't have received the message as you did and I think I think it's

as you did and I think I think it's particularly instructive because what it

particularly instructive because what it demonstrates particularly with something

demonstrates particularly with something like the immune system is that more

like the immune system is that more isn't necessarily

isn't necessarily better and

better and when you're trying to get your

when you're trying to get your homeostasis back whatever correction is

homeostasis back whatever correction is being made or whatever meta regulation

being made or whatever meta regulation is is underway just has to be enough for

is is underway just has to be enough for you to get your homeostasis back and

you to get your homeostasis back and obviously with you know covid and um

obviously with you know covid and um people's familiarity with covid now

people's familiarity with covid now there's so much out there isn't there on

there's so much out there isn't there on social media uh in the way of

social media uh in the way of information um about you know how it's

information um about you know how it's affected people how it can affect

affected people how it can affect various systems of the

various systems of the body and also how it might not be a good

body and also how it might not be a good idea to have booster after booster after

idea to have booster after booster after booster and over stimulate your immune

booster and over stimulate your immune system because each time you do that

system because each time you do that you're giving it more to do you're

you're giving it more to do you're actually creating potentially more

actually creating potentially more inflammation yeah which of course

inflammation yeah which of course clearly isn't a good thing no

clearly isn't a good thing no so as you say in the past Dave you would

so as you say in the past Dave you would have probably used hypnosis to increase

have probably used hypnosis to increase your immune response you would have

your immune response you would have self- suggested an increase in in your

self- suggested an increase in in your immune response it so uh you know

immune response it so uh you know presumably Not only would you um you

presumably Not only would you um you would have already probably had your

would have already probably had your first line of immunity kick in you would

first line of immunity kick in you would have potentially generated um a

have potentially generated um a complimentary Cascade as well that would

complimentary Cascade as well that would have been signaling to um other immune

have been signaling to um other immune cells as well to cut jump on board to

cells as well to cut jump on board to fight you know the virus and that would

fight you know the virus and that would then have been an an overreaction

then have been an an overreaction potentially of your immune system with

potentially of your immune system with all the side effects that come with that

all the side effects that come with that one of them the major ones being

one of them the major ones being inflammation

inflammation unfortunately so that you do not want

unfortunately so that you do not want because we all know don't we that when

because we all know don't we that when we have inflammation we tend to feel

we have inflammation we tend to feel very unwell on top of everything else

very unwell on top of everything else absolutely and there's a cyto kind storm

absolutely and there's a cyto kind storm yes which I was concerned about

yes which I was concerned about triggering off in myself because I've

triggering off in myself because I've very effectively done that in the past

very effectively done that in the past yes with a different

yes with a different it was only for influenza but it was a

it was only for influenza but it was a very serious in in sense of how brutal

very serious in in sense of how brutal it was symptomatically at the time I did

it was symptomatically at the time I did not want to make that worse again

not want to make that worse again because that um but I remember years

because that um but I remember years back teaching the students that we had

back teaching the students that we had then 25 years ago saying to them saying

then 25 years ago saying to them saying well don't do this because I've done it

well don't do this because I've done it and it's a bad idea yeah um which was a

and it's a bad idea yeah um which was a joke for quite a few years about about

joke for quite a few years about about how Daft had been about doing that but

how Daft had been about doing that but the preparation that I tried to avoid uh

the preparation that I tried to avoid uh a cyto kind effect was is that I was

a cyto kind effect was is that I was using self hypnosis to manage my

using self hypnosis to manage my homeostasis and say just enough and no

homeostasis and say just enough and no more just enough enough and no more that

more just enough enough and no more that was a self- suggestion built within a

was a self- suggestion built within a self hypnotic package to manage um this

self hypnotic package to manage um this to try to prevent myself from getting

to try to prevent myself from getting too enthusiastic even unconsciously

too enthusiastic even unconsciously about trying to deal with it uh but just

about trying to deal with it uh but just enough and no no more wasn't enough it

enough and no no more wasn't enough it seems and the Temptation was to do it

seems and the Temptation was to do it but I can't you know this this could be

but I can't you know this this could be really dangerous I could kick that in uh

really dangerous I could kick that in uh and then when I asked myself for help

and then when I asked myself for help well I asked the inser the inner world

well I asked the inser the inner world for help the psyche the Deep structure

for help the psyche the Deep structure psyche then immediately it was like

psyche then immediately it was like being moved into the dream state I was

being moved into the dream state I was using self hypnosis techniques but this

using self hypnosis techniques but this was so

was so vivid incredibly

vivid incredibly Vivid um and I I wasn't taking into

Vivid um and I I wasn't taking into account the dimension of

account the dimension of time and there is a future state where

time and there is a future state where this is dealt with if you bring that

this is dealt with if you bring that back and into coherence with the now

back and into coherence with the now effectively it will be gone and uh it

effectively it will be gone and uh it was following morning yeah again it's

was following morning yeah again it's it's it's absolutely amazing I've got Lo

it's it's absolutely amazing I've got Lo loads of things that come to mind on on

loads of things that come to mind on on that sort of ideas and then I guess

that sort of ideas and then I guess follow-up questions what you were saying

follow-up questions what you were saying though Pauline about the immune system

though Pauline about the immune system I'd like to second that because that's

I'd like to second that because that's something I think a lot of people aren't

something I think a lot of people aren't super aware of within the culture is

super aware of within the culture is that if we have obviously you you had

that if we have obviously you you had you know a bad variant of covid-19 Steve

you know a bad variant of covid-19 Steve but if we reel things back to a common

but if we reel things back to a common cough or cold or flu the symptoms that

cough or cold or flu the symptoms that people experience from that do not come

people experience from that do not come from the actual virus they come from the

from the actual virus they come from the immune system the the you mentioned cyto

immune system the the you mentioned cyto kind storm specific interlukin IL LS

kind storm specific interlukin IL LS these these little small secretions of

these these little small secretions of cells that carry out immune functions

cells that carry out immune functions they're linked to the the the headaches

they're linked to the the the headaches the fatigue the muscle weakness even

the fatigue the muscle weakness even sore throat isn't caused by a virus

sore throat isn't caused by a virus that's your own immune cells nuking the

that's your own immune cells nuking the cells of the throat to try and get rid

cells of the throat to try and get rid of the virus infected cells see I can

of the virus infected cells see I can certainly see from that why as you've

certainly see from that why as you've attempted to do many years ago 25 years

attempted to do many years ago 25 years ago trying to upregulate the immune

ago trying to upregulate the immune system itself not a good idea that would

system itself not a good idea that would just then cause lots of in inflammation

just then cause lots of in inflammation but I'm so fascinated as well by this

but I'm so fascinated as well by this dimension of of time and as you were

dimension of of time and as you were speaking I had an image of rossy's Mind

speaking I had an image of rossy's Mind Body Loop and on them he often had the

Body Loop and on them he often had the time mention didn't he of how long each

time mention didn't he of how long each step would take so when you said that

step would take so when you said that this happened at about 1: in the morning

this happened at about 1: in the morning um roughly what time if you don't mind

um roughly what time if you don't mind me asking did you get up in the morning

me asking did you get up in the morning again Steve 10 I think yeah that should

again Steve 10 I think yeah that should be more than enough time then for

be more than enough time then for transcription translation that the the

transcription translation that the the standard step within the Mind Body Loop

standard step within the Mind Body Loop so you've got the the dimension of time

so you've got the the dimension of time broadly of being coherent with a future

broadly of being coherent with a future state but I suppose would it be fair to

state but I suppose would it be fair to say that manifested itself for I guess

say that manifested itself for I guess an ontology a really quick but a um a

an ontology a really quick but a um a Rossy style ontology to move you from

Rossy style ontology to move you from present to Future way quicker than

present to Future way quicker than otherwise what would have taken place

otherwise what would have taken place yeah was as if you collaps that time

yeah was as if you collaps that time frame wasn't it yeah the key seem to be

frame wasn't it yeah the key seem to be that the the figure was suggesting the

that the the figure was suggesting the past present and future exist

past present and future exist simultaneously and it's our attitude of

simultaneously and it's our attitude of Consciousness that makes a distinction

Consciousness that makes a distinction and under certain

and under certain circumstances the right kind of

circumstances the right kind of communication then you can access the

communication then you can access the future but not only psychologically you

future but not only psychologically you can do it

can do it physiologically and uh when we've um and

physiologically and uh when we've um and again we've discussed it in this video

again we've discussed it in this video for example that lady who had an

for example that lady who had an irritable bowel syndrome after the the

irritable bowel syndrome after the the bombing in the second world war that was

bombing in the second world war that was the past perseverating the fact that the

the past perseverating the fact that the future can move into the present and not

future can move into the present and not just the past move into the

just the past move into the present normally we don't consider that

present normally we don't consider that because of our understanding of the

because of our understanding of the arrow of

arrow of time but it was uh uh it was incredible

time but it was uh uh it was incredible the the change and um it's the only

the the change and um it's the only hypothesis that fits in in my view that

hypothesis that fits in in my view that that was in effect what

that was in effect what happened but I would say people do need

happened but I would say people do need to know what they're doing if they try

to know what they're doing if they try that um because it is possible to mess

that um because it is possible to mess it up you know and uh you have to know

it up you know and uh you have to know what to receive how to receive it and

what to receive how to receive it and how to treat your own

how to treat your own physiology it does much the

physiology it does much the informational field model that you guys

informational field model that you guys have really nicely that whatever that

have really nicely that whatever that character was would have been a deep

character was would have been a deep structure complex right but acting in

structure complex right but acting in its psychopomp role one of the roles

its psychopomp role one of the roles that it can have it seemed Steve to to

that it can have it seemed Steve to to um be be in a psychopomp sense leading

um be be in a psychopomp sense leading you to then considering

you to then considering updating your ego I guess in a sense

updating your ego I guess in a sense considering that dimension of time which

considering that dimension of time which I'm really interested as to why why that

I'm really interested as to why why that might be necessary in the sense that

might be necessary in the sense that homeostasis for most people doesn't

homeostasis for most people doesn't normally do that but by engaging with

normally do that but by engaging with the unconscious in the right way or

the unconscious in the right way or non-ego psyche is is as you guys use for

non-ego psyche is is as you guys use for that term engaging it in the right way

that term engaging it in the right way gave a sense of agency but why wouldn't

gave a sense of agency but why wouldn't homeostasis I suppose do that anyway if

homeostasis I suppose do that anyway if you know what I mean

you know what I mean yeah it seems that there's um as with

yeah it seems that there's um as with the normal uh experience of

the normal uh experience of Consciousness that we have of our ego

Consciousness that we have of our ego that there are limitations

that there are limitations as a baseline that are set um if ouro

as a baseline that are set um if ouro was too full of the unconscious as

was too full of the unconscious as that's normally understood or it's too

that's normally understood or it's too full of future

full of future projections even prec cognitively we

projections even prec cognitively we don't exist in the moment and there's

don't exist in the moment and there's something about the moment which is

something about the moment which is highly adaptive it's highly important

highly adaptive it's highly important which is why our experience of time is

which is why our experience of time is probably collapsed in the way that it is

probably collapsed in the way that it is but we are gifted the potential for

but we are gifted the potential for accessing future States it seems in the

accessing future States it seems in the same way that we can access past States

same way that we can access past States um so being in in the right uh frame of

um so being in in the right uh frame of receptivity for this seems to be key um

receptivity for this seems to be key um and even myself with all of my

and even myself with all of my experience which is a lot over many

experience which is a lot over many years with a lot of people um had to be

years with a lot of people um had to be open to receive that in order for it to

open to receive that in order for it to be allowed to

be allowed to work um so I can only imagine that

work um so I can only imagine that everything was in agreement in the

everything was in agreement in the moment and that's what was delivered but

moment and that's what was delivered but in the context of of trauma then for

in the context of of trauma then for this whole whole video having is is is

this whole whole video having is is is what you're suggesting basically that

what you're suggesting basically that for somebody to have a resonance with

for somebody to have a resonance with the future rather than the

the future rather than the past literally whether that is literally

past literally whether that is literally literally or metaphorically literally if

literally or metaphorically literally if you kind of see the the distinction

you kind of see the the distinction there that would help somebody move away

there that would help somebody move away from a field resonance with the past

from a field resonance with the past that then collapses their field the

that then collapses their field the image I kind of get is like there's

image I kind of get is like there's there's a timeline and there's like a a

there's a timeline and there's like a a gravitational well almost back to the

gravitational well almost back to the past that's tugging on them and tugging

past that's tugging on them and tugging their energy back but if someone is

their energy back but if someone is resonant with the

resonant with the future that's going to really help them

future that's going to really help them remove or get over any past

remove or get over any past perseverations is the way that you've

perseverations is the way that you've put it yeah I I'd agree and I would say

put it yeah I I'd agree and I would say that um dissociation which we are you

that um dissociation which we are you know the three of us are obviously very

know the three of us are obviously very familiar with clinically and in terms of

familiar with clinically and in terms of um the

um the training um is another big hint because

training um is another big hint because association takes you out of the

association takes you out of the immediate

immediate moment uh so it has a survival value

moment uh so it has a survival value when somebody's undergoing trauma to

when somebody's undergoing trauma to dissociate up to a point you can go too

dissociate up to a point you can go too far

far obviously um but provided that

obviously um but provided that dissociation allows a person to get

dissociation allows a person to get through a crisis it's highly adapted and

through a crisis it's highly adapted and therefore

therefore conserved but the idea I mean you you

conserved but the idea I mean you you know again because you you've you've

know again because you you've you've been through this in your training with

been through this in your training with us that it is possible to to receive

us that it is possible to to receive information from what the young would

information from what the young would call the self archetype we would call

call the self archetype we would call the genomic self because we want to

the genomic self because we want to extend that Beyond mere psychology in

extend that Beyond mere psychology in any any meaningful sense it is possible

any any meaningful sense it is possible to get cooperation for a future State

to get cooperation for a future State and then to move progressively towards

and then to move progressively towards that uh it seems if the genome agrees

that uh it seems if the genome agrees with it in terms of its gene expression

with it in terms of its gene expression and its meta regulation then it will say

and its meta regulation then it will say or it will indicate uh in so many days

or it will indicate uh in so many days so many weeks whatever months this will

so many weeks whatever months this will be done it will be sorted it'll be out

be done it will be sorted it'll be out the way progressively that means that a

the way progressively that means that a person is not

person is not overloaded which is what I was saying

overloaded which is what I was saying earlier that one of the issues about the

earlier that one of the issues about the potential for the future to intrude too

potential for the future to intrude too much into the present is that we would

much into the present is that we would lose our sense of the arrow of time and

lose our sense of the arrow of time and of adaptation and there does seem to be

of adaptation and there does seem to be something fundamental about that that's

something fundamental about that that's important so we can't go too far into a

important so we can't go too far into a future state but we might be allowed to

future state but we might be allowed to do something like I

do something like I suggested um for myself but but also

suggested um for myself but but also what we routinely say for people over

what we routinely say for people over things like depression and anxiety

things like depression and anxiety States uh complexes once we start the

States uh complexes once we start the process of contact with the genome we

process of contact with the genome we get the agreement that this will be

get the agreement that this will be sorted out at a certain point in time

sorted out at a certain point in time there's no need for them to worry about

there's no need for them to worry about it be concerned about it because all the

it be concerned about it because all the work will be done on the inside and will

work will be done on the inside and will be released appropriately as the this

be released appropriately as the this future state starts to come back towards

future state starts to come back towards the present

the present so really it's happening anyway all the

so really it's happening anyway all the time it's just what was remarkable was

time it's just what was remarkable was the speed of

the speed of it oh it did accelerate things without a

it oh it did accelerate things without a doubt I guess like you say Steve though

doubt I guess like you say Steve though any kind of dissociation which takes you

any kind of dissociation which takes you away from uh cognition effectively uh

away from uh cognition effectively uh will collapse you into intuition which

will collapse you into intuition which of course is prospective as well um in

of course is prospective as well um in the sense that you know it it allows the

the sense that you know it it allows the imagination to come through so it allows

imagination to come through so it allows you to model future States as well and

you to model future States as well and uh that clearly is a you know is

uh that clearly is a you know is essential for moving beyond trauma imery

essential for moving beyond trauma imery is really the imagery side is really

is really the imagery side is really important yes

important yes yeah but I mean you didn't ask for that

yeah but I mean you didn't ask for that I mean you're more than capable of you

I mean you're more than capable of you know generating images in the sense that

know generating images in the sense that you you may partly have a hand in that

you you may partly have a hand in that you may anticipate that certain images

you may anticipate that certain images might represent themselves but this was

might represent themselves but this was so um you know left to field I don't

so um you know left to field I don't think even you could have predicted that

think even you could have predicted that you would be gifted that I mean as you

you would be gifted that I mean as you say out of all the the characters that

say out of all the the characters that might have appeared um in terms that

might have appeared um in terms that might have taken your interest because

might have taken your interest because obviously it's it's been drawn from

obviously it's it's been drawn from something that you have an interest in I

something that you have an interest in I did it would not have been him as a

did it would not have been him as a child no it wouldn't have been him no no

child no it wouldn't have been him no no not at all I would have seen him as an

not at all I would have seen him as an upstar and an encel Opa yeah and not the

upstar and an encel Opa yeah and not the origin oral should we say um but he was

origin oral should we say um but he was the right man for the for the for the

the right man for the for the for the representational task it seems yeah yeah

representational task it seems yeah yeah interesting how these things

interesting how these things [Music]

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Richards on becoming conscious of your own Fields Steve writes in a personal

own Fields Steve writes in a personal communication on September 9th 2024

communication on September 9th 2024 quote if we take a homeostatic view with

quote if we take a homeostatic view with your bioc psychosocial stack having

your bioc psychosocial stack having everything that has recently happened to

everything that has recently happened to you lay over it we can immediately see

you lay over it we can immediately see your meta field as it is presently

your meta field as it is presently configured by field we mean a

configured by field we mean a heterogeneous pattern of infodynamics

heterogeneous pattern of infodynamics sociation that is self- sustaining it

sociation that is self- sustaining it has its own within level internally

has its own within level internally referent homeostasis so your meta field

referent homeostasis so your meta field is the highest register of distribution

is the highest register of distribution that you can personally occupy until the

that you can personally occupy until the boundaries of your system extend into

boundaries of your system extend into the most fundamental States in

the most fundamental States in theoretical terms this is effectively at

theoretical terms this is effectively at a point of infinite extension in

a point of infinite extension in Practical terms it's at the point where

Practical terms it's at the point where our homeostasis at the level of an

our homeostasis at the level of an individual human organism cannot be

individual human organism cannot be further extended everything that you are

further extended everything that you are immediately aware of within this field

immediately aware of within this field is your subjective waveform everything

is your subjective waveform everything outside of that including any non-ego

outside of that including any non-ego awareness but is still affecting you is

awareness but is still affecting you is your objective waveform this field is

your objective waveform this field is info dnamic so the respective waveforms

info dnamic so the respective waveforms change over time as an active

change over time as an active distribution set against the

distribution set against the biopsychosocial stack this means that

biopsychosocial stack this means that your field is not only widely

your field is not only widely distributed but your subjective waveform

distributed but your subjective waveform is highly coherent with a representation

is highly coherent with a representation of that distribution this will naturally

of that distribution this will naturally stretch the capacity of anyone's

stretch the capacity of anyone's homeostasis an individual will be

homeostasis an individual will be stretched physically int psychologically

stretched physically int psychologically and psychosocially the physical is the

and psychosocially the physical is the most important as this is the chassis to

most important as this is the chassis to carry everything else the int

carry everything else the int psychological is where we become

psychological is where we become reflexively aware of complexes the

reflexively aware of complexes the psychosocial is where we find ourselves

psychosocial is where we find ourselves increasing our Drive state in order to

increasing our Drive state in order to meet the demands that our physiology and

meet the demands that our physiology and psychology may be withdrawing or

psychology may be withdrawing or shutting down from as a conservation

shutting down from as a conservation withdrawal complexes can perhaps

withdrawal complexes can perhaps paradoxically be co-opted to act as

paradoxically be co-opted to act as homeostatic regulators their regressive

homeostatic regulators their regressive inertia in reference to past States can

inertia in reference to past States can be utilized by our meta regulatory

be utilized by our meta regulatory function to compel an otherwise

function to compel an otherwise overstretched system to refocus and

overstretched system to refocus and self-correct how you interpret this will

self-correct how you interpret this will be very important you've been subject to

be very important you've been subject to the effects of extraordinary stress this

the effects of extraordinary stress this has extended your personal field into

has extended your personal field into the collective at the psychosocial level

the collective at the psychosocial level the homeostatic compensation will likely

the homeostatic compensation will likely include reactivating past egate

include reactivating past egate complexes for the reason outlined above

complexes for the reason outlined above a problem can be in identifying with

a problem can be in identifying with these past eoat complexes so that they

these past eoat complexes so that they persist beyond their reactivation

persist beyond their reactivation intended purpose the way to deal with

intended purpose the way to deal with these complexes is firstly to recognize

these complexes is firstly to recognize their

their reconfiguration then check your meta

reconfiguration then check your meta field against the biopsychosocial stack

field against the biopsychosocial stack this will reveal their activation

this will reveal their activation profile and give away their immediate

profile and give away their immediate adaptive purpose homeostatic you can

adaptive purpose homeostatic you can then say I am in that state this being

then say I am in that state this being the presently configured

the presently configured representational field of your

representational field of your subjective and objective waveforms

subjective and objective waveforms secondly check your physiological

secondly check your physiological homeostasis and in particular for any

homeostasis and in particular for any downloading from the psychosocial and

downloading from the psychosocial and psychological into it be alert to the

psychological into it be alert to the potential for your psychology to

potential for your psychology to override awareness of exhaustion so that

override awareness of exhaustion so that the overdrive State necessary to meet

the overdrive State necessary to meet with extended py social needs is allowed

with extended py social needs is allowed to run unchecked thirdly reconfigure

to run unchecked thirdly reconfigure your self-image field as this is the

your self-image field as this is the realtime internal mirror within your

realtime internal mirror within your self-concept field make sure that it is

self-concept field make sure that it is not acting autonomously to identify you

not acting autonomously to identify you your EG field with the oxidizing need to

your EG field with the oxidizing need to meet with others extended demands

meet with others extended demands including through social media finally

including through social media finally reconfigure your persona field the

reconfigure your persona field the two-way membrane of intracycle to

two-way membrane of intracycle to psychosocial relating to ensure that its

psychosocial relating to ensure that its homeostasis and your internal

homeostasis and your internal self-regulation are coherent and

self-regulation are coherent and adaptive note the objective waveform is

adaptive note the objective waveform is analogous to the unconscious in

analogous to the unconscious in psychodynamics but it goes much further

psychodynamics but it goes much further on field homeostasis one Steve writes on

on field homeostasis one Steve writes on September 9th 2024 quote you need to

September 9th 2024 quote you need to consider the distribution of a given

consider the distribution of a given complex and how the complex may form

complex and how the complex may form part of an adjunctive homeostasis for

part of an adjunctive homeostasis for other parts of the field see the

other parts of the field see the personal communication narrated

personal communication narrated immediately before this one our personal

immediately before this one our personal interaction with the totality of the

interaction with the totality of the objective waveform is limited

objective waveform is limited homeostasis operates at every level

homeostasis operates at every level including the psychological social and

including the psychological social and even the biological Collective which

even the biological Collective which means that the eggo most often must seek

means that the eggo most often must seek support from within its most immediate

support from within its most immediate extended field which includes meta

extended field which includes meta instincts and the genomic self as well

instincts and the genomic self as well as psychosocial field interaction on

as psychosocial field interaction on field homeostasis 2 Steve writes on

field homeostasis 2 Steve writes on September 9th 2024 quote we need to

September 9th 2024 quote we need to understand homeostasis not only in the

understand homeostasis not only in the collapsed biological terms of a very

collapsed biological terms of a very narrow range of tolerances but within

narrow range of tolerances but within the scale and distribution of whole

the scale and distribution of whole fields that go beyond biology and into

fields that go beyond biology and into psychology the psychosocial and even

psychology the psychosocial and even meta environmental levels this leads to

meta environmental levels this leads to a best fit Dynamic that seeks to

a best fit Dynamic that seeks to regulate all levels cumulatively so

regulate all levels cumulatively so complexes that formed through genan and

complexes that formed through genan and dissociation May originally have done so

dissociation May originally have done so to maintain homeostasis this is typical

to maintain homeostasis this is typical of any defensive response that

of any defensive response that subsequently becomes maladaptive as in

subsequently becomes maladaptive as in Freudian psychoanalytic modeling

Freudian psychoanalytic modeling autonomous complexes can be dual

autonomous complexes can be dual purposed with an algorithmic assessment

purposed with an algorithmic assessment made about their utility so cost benefit

made about their utility so cost benefit by meta regulatory processes however

by meta regulatory processes however sometimes complexes not only become

sometimes complexes not only become autonomous and Dual Purpose they also

autonomous and Dual Purpose they also act to defend themselves against the ego

act to defend themselves against the ego as in psychological autoimmunity

as in psychological autoimmunity appealing to a better adaptation at the

appealing to a better adaptation at the homeostatic level is the most effective

homeostatic level is the most effective way to deal with complexes under

way to deal with complexes under clinical conditions on how deep struct

clinical conditions on how deep struct complexes are formed a member of our

complexes are formed a member of our Discord server asks is the process of

Discord server asks is the process of internal projection the mechanism by

internal projection the mechanism by which deep structure complexes are

which deep structure complexes are created I understand they are also

created I understand they are also created through normal learning and

created through normal learning and experience in the world so would

experience in the world so would internal projection be more of a

internal projection be more of a pathological way or misleading at least

pathological way or misleading at least Steve replies on September 19th 2024

Steve replies on September 19th 2024 quote there are two sides to the process

quote there are two sides to the process firstly that which the ego internally

firstly that which the ego internally projects over the unconscious and models

projects over the unconscious and models what it thus projects as being real with

what it thus projects as being real with respect to the objectivity of the non-

respect to the objectivity of the non- egoo when it is not in this case as it's

egoo when it is not in this case as it's actually a projection by the ego over

actually a projection by the ego over the unconscious or non-o conscious as

the unconscious or non-o conscious as equivalent terms secondly the non- egoo

equivalent terms secondly the non- egoo projects towards and over the ego in the

projects towards and over the ego in the form of a how it experiences the ego and

form of a how it experiences the ego and B the projection of future potential

B the projection of future potential again over the ego so the ego

again over the ego so the ego experiences a representation within

experiences a representation within itself of how it could be once it has

itself of how it could be once it has developed further in accordance with its

developed further in accordance with its latent potential with this existing for

latent potential with this existing for the moment only outside of itself deep

the moment only outside of itself deep structure complexes do form on the basis

structure complexes do form on the basis of both kinds of internal projection but

of both kinds of internal projection but internal projection may not necessarily

internal projection may not necessarily systematize into a deep structure

systematize into a deep structure complex or be properly understood when

complex or be properly understood when it comes from the unconscious by the ego

it comes from the unconscious by the ego it is all info dnamic the Discord member

it is all info dnamic the Discord member replies thank you Steve if I may inquire

replies thank you Steve if I may inquire and test my understanding further is the

and test my understanding further is the first side ego incorrectly internally

first side ego incorrectly internally projecting over the non- egos psyche and

projecting over the non- egos psyche and the a parts of the second side so the

the a parts of the second side so the non-o psyches experience of the ego the

non-o psyches experience of the ego the same thing but only coming from

same thing but only coming from different sides of the explanation on

different sides of the explanation on the B part of the second side is the

the B part of the second side is the internal projection of the non- egos

internal projection of the non- egos psyche over the ego in this example

psyche over the ego in this example simply the mechanism through which

simply the mechanism through which intuition of a genomic potential is

intuition of a genomic potential is delivered towards the ego Steve replies

delivered towards the ego Steve replies yes for the first side for part A of the

yes for the first side for part A of the second side the non-ego delivers

second side the non-ego delivers projects an internally generated

projects an internally generated representation of how the non-ego or the

representation of how the non-ego or the unconscious experiences the ego this is

unconscious experiences the ego this is projected at onto or over the ego it may

projected at onto or over the ego it may come in many representational forms and

come in many representational forms and or states for example in dreams neurotic

or states for example in dreams neurotic symptoms fantasies affected social

symptoms fantasies affected social relationships etc for part B of the

relationships etc for part B of the second side the non-ego the genomic self

second side the non-ego the genomic self or other subfield of the non-o

or other subfield of the non-o Consciousness projects latent potential

Consciousness projects latent potential at onto or over the ego this may be

at onto or over the ego this may be positive or negative depending on the

positive or negative depending on the homeostatic requirements of the whole

homeostatic requirements of the whole field of the organism at any given

field of the organism at any given moment the negative is interpreted by

moment the negative is interpreted by yans as the shadow as indeed is the

yans as the shadow as indeed is the positive which they frequently model as

positive which they frequently model as the gold in the shadow it is much more

the gold in the shadow it is much more efficient to understand homeostasis as

efficient to understand homeostasis as Dynamic and not rarify internal

Dynamic and not rarify internal projections into polarities like Dr

projections into polarities like Dr Jackal and Mr Hyde when we relate

Jackal and Mr Hyde when we relate properly there is in effect no yungan

properly there is in effect no yungan Shadow the construct defines a Neurosis

Shadow the construct defines a Neurosis in that the concept of the Shadow is

in that the concept of the Shadow is itself a neurotic polarity integrating

itself a neurotic polarity integrating the shadow is not the requ ired task

the shadow is not the requ ired task relating is for yion they need to

relating is for yion they need to understand this from within their own

understand this from within their own model as being the anima animus is the

model as being the anima animus is the solution to the shadow Unfortunately

solution to the shadow Unfortunately they get too attached to generating

they get too attached to generating internal projections as rified complexes

internal projections as rified complexes based on their Theory to notice how the

based on their Theory to notice how the natural psyche prefers to regulate

natural psyche prefers to regulate itself on the trickster and the genomic

itself on the trickster and the genomic self a YouTube comment writes in the

self a YouTube comment writes in the comment section on our video the

comment section on our video the trickster archetype the truth about your

trickster archetype the truth about your Shadow quote superbly explained I never

Shadow quote superbly explained I never knew that the trickster aspect only

knew that the trickster aspect only works with the ego and not the self I

works with the ego and not the self I would love to know more about the self

would love to know more about the self and how it is different from all three

and how it is different from all three Steve replies the trickster is a

Steve replies the trickster is a function a self-regulatory function that

function a self-regulatory function that extends homeostasis out from being only

extends homeostasis out from being only biological and into the psychological

biological and into the psychological iCal and psychosocial domains when it

iCal and psychosocial domains when it takes on a characterized or rified

takes on a characterized or rified representation then it can be mistaken

representation then it can be mistaken for only being that representation at

for only being that representation at which point it is only understood psycho

which point it is only understood psycho reductively Yung left a corpus of work

reductively Yung left a corpus of work that must move on with new developments

that must move on with new developments in other fields just as he wanted the

in other fields just as he wanted the self in yungan terms is another rarified

self in yungan terms is another rarified psycho reductionism given advances in

psycho reductionism given advances in biology and superpositioned

biology and superpositioned informational field Theory since his

informational field Theory since his time it is a concept now best understood

time it is a concept now best understood as the genomic self taking in account

as the genomic self taking in account everything that is now understood about

everything that is now understood about genetics and field Theory the

genetics and field Theory the experiencing psychological self is what

experiencing psychological self is what is commonly referred to as the ego in

is commonly referred to as the ego in depth psychology on the trickster as

depth psychology on the trickster as meta regulator Steve writes quote the

meta regulator Steve writes quote the trickster is best considered to be a

trickster is best considered to be a nested field of fields that collapses

nested field of fields that collapses into resolutions based on those fields

into resolutions based on those fields as such it is not any rarified image

as such it is not any rarified image that may coales in representation of it

that may coales in representation of it it is continuous Beyond biology

it is continuous Beyond biology psychology and the social world with

psychology and the social world with universal fundamental organizational

universal fundamental organizational Fields its differentiation into biology

Fields its differentiation into biology collapses into the level of evolutionary

collapses into the level of evolutionary development of a species and its Niche

development of a species and its Niche spaces and adaptations hence in humans

spaces and adaptations hence in humans it takes on its characteristic

it takes on its characteristic representational forms it is not one

representational forms it is not one thing as such however rather it is a

thing as such however rather it is a meta regulator its association with

meta regulator its association with parapsychological phenomenon is a

parapsychological phenomenon is a feature of its Dynamic interfield nature

feature of its Dynamic interfield nature individual human ego Consciousness and

individual human ego Consciousness and its Collective concominant organize the

its Collective concominant organize the meta Regulatory Field into the familiar

meta Regulatory Field into the familiar Mythic poetic and occult representations

Mythic poetic and occult representations of the trickster in that regard we are

of the trickster in that regard we are obliged to reflexively consider it in

obliged to reflexively consider it in that form whilst at the same time

that form whilst at the same time distilling out the true deep structure

distilling out the true deep structure dynamics of its function human nature

dynamics of its function human nature creates the imaro of the trickster in

creates the imaro of the trickster in its own image on Drive States as Fields

its own image on Drive States as Fields Steve writes on September 17th 2024

Steve writes on September 17th 2024 quote reducing arousal in such

quote reducing arousal in such circumstances can be utilized for its

circumstances can be utilized for its own sake as it can be unpleasant and

own sake as it can be unpleasant and distracting to have a background State

distracting to have a background State approximating being in overdrive for our

approximating being in overdrive for our adaptive purposes so yes it has its

adaptive purposes so yes it has its intrinsic value complexes in so far as

intrinsic value complexes in so far as they have preferred states to function

they have preferred states to function within will attempt to return an

within will attempt to return an organism to a dri State field that

organism to a dri State field that optimizes their adaptive maintenance

optimizes their adaptive maintenance displacement behaviors such as habits

displacement behaviors such as habits including substance usage are often

including substance usage are often peripheral to the comp complexes field

peripheral to the comp complexes field so that they distract or Express the

so that they distract or Express the complex in adaptive relationship to the

complex in adaptive relationship to the cost benefits to the organism as a whole

cost benefits to the organism as a whole obsessional thoughts and compulsive

obsessional thoughts and compulsive rituals in OCD are a clear example of

rituals in OCD are a clear example of this in that the general level of drive

this in that the general level of drive as anxiety is reduced proportional to

as anxiety is reduced proportional to the performance of rituals and or Loop

the performance of rituals and or Loop cognition that said the General

cognition that said the General Distribution of Drive States habits

Distribution of Drive States habits so-called spontaneous thoughts reveries

so-called spontaneous thoughts reveries Etc are all parts of normal field

Etc are all parts of normal field regulation how these are EG interpreted

regulation how these are EG interpreted can be prodromal or even directly causal

can be prodromal or even directly causal with respect to specific conditions

with respect to specific conditions configuring out from the natural

configuring out from the natural background field of drive and non EG

background field of drive and non EG Consciousness on separating from

Consciousness on separating from cultural narratives Steve writes on

cultural narratives Steve writes on September 17th 2024 quote we have to be

September 17th 2024 quote we have to be very careful about attaching to

very careful about attaching to Collective but paradoxically specific

Collective but paradoxically specific cultural narratives our task ultimately

cultural narratives our task ultimately is to separate from them this is very

is to separate from them this is very difficult when our ego actively seeks

difficult when our ego actively seeks coherence with them in affect this is a

coherence with them in affect this is a state of active dissociative

state of active dissociative identification not a disorder but a

identification not a disorder but a displacing identification that brings

displacing identification that brings the self-image into identification with

the self-image into identification with a narrative characterization or scenario

a narrative characterization or scenario the efficient cause of this is

the efficient cause of this is frequently the activity ity of our

frequently the activity ity of our complex field as this is concerned with

complex field as this is concerned with its own maintenance it seeks a pseudo

its own maintenance it seeks a pseudo entanglement with the EG's self-image

entanglement with the EG's self-image the ability to see parallels at the

the ability to see parallels at the right register whilst maintaining

right register whilst maintaining distance from identification with them

distance from identification with them is crucial for ego and whole of

is crucial for ego and whole of personality development on the Holy

personality development on the Holy Grail a member of our Discord server

Grail a member of our Discord server writes Steve you mentioned the

writes Steve you mentioned the structured incremental approach to

structured incremental approach to receiving ground state Consciousness

receiving ground state Consciousness through Progressive entrainment is the

through Progressive entrainment is the end result of that process what the Holy

end result of that process what the Holy Grail is meant to represent Steve

Grail is meant to represent Steve replies on September 17th 2024 quote an

replies on September 17th 2024 quote an ego that through the structured

ego that through the structured incremental Progressive entrainment has

incremental Progressive entrainment has been forged into a proper vessel that

been forged into a proper vessel that can receive ground state Consciousness a

can receive ground state Consciousness a vessel that can receive intuition

vessel that can receive intuition properly that can contain a portion of

properly that can contain a portion of it that would not be overwhelming that

it that would not be overwhelming that can gather it can contain it without

can gather it can contain it without spilling and carry it forward for its

spilling and carry it forward for its ingestion yes this is not easy it's a

ingestion yes this is not easy it's a real test the kind metaphorically or

real test the kind metaphorically or allegorically represented in Mythic

allegorically represented in Mythic narratives the key is not to become

narratives the key is not to become fascinated by the Mythic narrative and

fascinated by the Mythic narrative and Fascination was a very old term for

Fascination was a very old term for being hypnotized or entranced

being hypnotized or entranced representations as configurative symbols

representations as configurative symbols and dynamics of meaning and of

and dynamics of meaning and of understanding needs to be received for

understanding needs to be received for what they are super determined

what they are super determined superpositioning of the extended Mind Of

superpositioning of the extended Mind Of Consciousness we have to relate to such

Consciousness we have to relate to such huge bandwidths of information through

huge bandwidths of information through collapsed symbols and Progressive

collapsed symbols and Progressive narratives or stories in order to model

narratives or stories in order to model with our ego both the content or form

with our ego both the content or form and goal or tell us of what it means to

and goal or tell us of what it means to live a conscious human life unto its

live a conscious human life unto its fulfillment on inflation Steve writes on

fulfillment on inflation Steve writes on September 17th 2024 quote inflation is a

September 17th 2024 quote inflation is a very awkward topic it's always context

very awkward topic it's always context specific being able to work with it and

specific being able to work with it and through it is the primary indicator of

through it is the primary indicator of adaptation to our potential the psyche

adaptation to our potential the psyche has mechanisms to prevent inappropriate

has mechanisms to prevent inappropriate intrusion into its Inner Space the first

intrusion into its Inner Space the first is fantasy an ego ill-prepared for inner

is fantasy an ego ill-prepared for inner exploration and poorly adapted to outter

exploration and poorly adapted to outter life will be directed into a fantasy

life will be directed into a fantasy holding space which should be regarded

holding space which should be regarded as temporary and soon to be left behind

as temporary and soon to be left behind as the ego grows in strength and

as the ego grows in strength and maturity when fantasy persists so that

maturity when fantasy persists so that it replaces adaptation both to the outer

it replaces adaptation both to the outer world and the inner then at a minimum

world and the inner then at a minimum all personal development ceases if this

all personal development ceases if this stasis persists in the ego then

stasis persists in the ego then eventually the homeostatic compensation

eventually the homeostatic compensation from genome and Instinct will generate

from genome and Instinct will generate at best best a neurosis and at worst a

at best best a neurosis and at worst a loss of reality orientation personal

loss of reality orientation personal development particularly in the context

development particularly in the context of simultaneous professional development

of simultaneous professional development will result in repeating inflation

will result in repeating inflation deflation Cycles in even the most

deflation Cycles in even the most committed people who possess both

committed people who possess both character and calling in so far as they

character and calling in so far as they do not have the Long View that is they

do not have the Long View that is they can't see outside of their EG fictive

can't see outside of their EG fictive fantasies then this is the shest sign

fantasies then this is the shest sign that they are innovated by Fields larger

that they are innovated by Fields larger than they can hold every step is hard

than they can hold every step is hard one if it looks easy then that's because

one if it looks easy then that's because it is seen Through The Eyes of an ego

it is seen Through The Eyes of an ego that is still a child inflation is

that is still a child inflation is normal in developing people this is the

normal in developing people this is the origin and the entrapment of all Hero

origin and the entrapment of all Hero cycle myths maturation is not easy

cycle myths maturation is not easy maturation beyond the normal range is

maturation beyond the normal range is extraordinarily difficult it requires

extraordinarily difficult it requires many things the capacity to relate to

many things the capacity to relate to others as others and not as inter

others as others and not as inter internalized objects upon which to

internalized objects upon which to transfer or project or to subsume to

transfer or project or to subsume to personal identification with thereby

personal identification with thereby robbing them of their humanity and

robbing them of their humanity and imposing our Neurosis on them are all

imposing our Neurosis on them are all fundamental issues that we have to

fundamental issues that we have to overcome identification with the proxy

overcome identification with the proxy or otherwise vicarious experiences of

or otherwise vicarious experiences of gurus living or deceased and the

gurus living or deceased and the elevation of ideas into a virtual

elevation of ideas into a virtual representation of and replacement for a

representation of and replacement for a life we haven't had likewise must be set

life we haven't had likewise must be set aside how do we achieve the necessary

aside how do we achieve the necessary balance to become ourselves step one

balance to become ourselves step one make EG strength the starting point step

make EG strength the starting point step two relate both outside and inside step

two relate both outside and inside step three work with other people than only

three work with other people than only ourselves step four pressure test

ourselves step four pressure test everything step five test your calling

everything step five test your calling step six develop your character on

step six develop your character on instincts as the cure for conf Le lexes

instincts as the cure for conf Le lexes Steve writes on September 12th 2024

Steve writes on September 12th 2024 quote frustration of instinct causes

quote frustration of instinct causes dissociation at both the individual and

dissociation at both the individual and Collective levels dissociation becomes

Collective levels dissociation becomes systematized as complexes then

systematized as complexes then distributed by superpositioning Between

distributed by superpositioning Between the various levels of the

the various levels of the biopsychosocial stack the first cause of

biopsychosocial stack the first cause of the complex or complexes May thus be

the complex or complexes May thus be lost searching for it a waste of time

lost searching for it a waste of time and a distraction away from the

and a distraction away from the immediacy of the field of the complex in

immediacy of the field of the complex in the present moment of its

the present moment of its representational experience always seek

representational experience always seek the correction of the field of the

the correction of the field of the complex as such not the first cause of

complex as such not the first cause of it as the correction is Forward Thinking

it as the correction is Forward Thinking and not regressive which serves the

and not regressive which serves the maintenance of the complex instincts are

maintenance of the complex instincts are thus the cure for

complexes toose close off this video we've created an appendix of definitions

we've created an appendix of definitions to cover all of the major terms that you

to cover all of the major terms that you would have heard Steve Pauline use

would have heard Steve Pauline use throughout this video for example

throughout this video for example informational field and things like EG

informational field and things like EG Field Complex field Miller number field

Field Complex field Miller number field that kind of thing over the years since

that kind of thing over the years since y to liveby has started quite a few of

y to liveby has started quite a few of you guys have emailed us asking what is

you guys have emailed us asking what is the best way to reference Steve and

the best way to reference Steve and Pauline's work so our hope is that this

Pauline's work so our hope is that this part of the video will be especially

part of the video will be especially useful for you guys whether that's for a

useful for you guys whether that's for a publication or something like a student

publication or something like a student thesis or dissertation all of these

thesis or dissertation all of these definitions were written by Steve

definitions were written by Steve Richards let's begin and I'm really

Richards let's begin and I'm really looking forward to seeing you guys again

looking forward to seeing you guys again in the next young to liveby video

in the next young to liveby video infodynamics in psychos systems analysis

infodynamics in psychos systems analysis and yungi in neuros psychoanalysis

and yungi in neuros psychoanalysis infodynamics is the revision and

infodynamics is the revision and extension of

extension of psychodynamics Beyond psycho

psychodynamics Beyond psycho reductionism as psycho reductionism was

reductionism as psycho reductionism was defined by the dialectics of biology

defined by the dialectics of biology group in their book towards a liberatory

group in their book towards a liberatory biology edited by Sten Rose and

biology edited by Sten Rose and published by Allison and Busby in 1982

published by Allison and Busby in 1982 into superpositioned informational field

into superpositioned informational field Theory or superpositioning theory

Theory or superpositioning theory infodynamics is therefore the dynamic

infodynamics is therefore the dynamic representation of information within any

representation of information within any state or level that it can generate or

state or level that it can generate or occupy from the lowest to the highest

occupy from the lowest to the highest EST ontological and phenomenological

EST ontological and phenomenological registers so this includes all

registers so this includes all psychodynamic structures processes and

psychodynamic structures processes and Dynamics found in depth psychology and

Dynamics found in depth psychology and their field coherence and interactions

their field coherence and interactions with information in any other state the

with information in any other state the conventional modeling of the conscious

conventional modeling of the conscious and unconscious divisions of the Mind

and unconscious divisions of the Mind are transcended by an understanding of

are transcended by an understanding of info dnamic field representations and

info dnamic field representations and translations models of Mind Body dualism

translations models of Mind Body dualism including dual aspect monism are

including dual aspect monism are likewise resolved info dnamic

likewise resolved info dnamic superdeterminism in psychos systems

superdeterminism in psychos systems analysis and yungi and neuros

analysis and yungi and neuros psychoanalysis infodynamics

psychoanalysis infodynamics superdeterminism refers to the

superdeterminism refers to the simultaneous causal relationships within

simultaneous causal relationships within an informational field that are caused

an informational field that are caused or determined by the interaction of the

or determined by the interaction of the field with itself resulting in a state

field with itself resulting in a state change to that field a given field say a

change to that field a given field say a complex may also be super determined by

complex may also be super determined by factors arising outside of itself for

factors arising outside of itself for example through interaction with or meta

example through interaction with or meta regulation by another field the

regulation by another field the principle of superdeterminism can

principle of superdeterminism can accommodate strict linear causality or

accommodate strict linear causality or Quantum effects acting in concert on

Quantum effects acting in concert on different constituent elements of a

different constituent elements of a field of informational representation

field of informational representation and dynamic expression psychosomatic

and dynamic expression psychosomatic storm in psychos systems analysis and

storm in psychos systems analysis and yungi and neuros psychoanalysis a

yungi and neuros psychoanalysis a psychosomatic storm refers to a super

psychosomatic storm refers to a super determined Field Effect that acts upon

determined Field Effect that acts upon the field of a whole organism via

the field of a whole organism via transduction Pathways referen to Rossi

transduction Pathways referen to Rossi and Richards and Richards to cause a

and Richards and Richards to cause a representational pooling of effects

representational pooling of effects Downstream of any initial change in

Downstream of any initial change in state of that field specifically in

state of that field specifically in psychosomatic effects following the

psychosomatic effects following the influence of suggestion in any form

influence of suggestion in any form including compound influence Es suating

including compound influence Es suating as a field in itself a change in the EG

as a field in itself a change in the EG field of a subject can distribute by

field of a subject can distribute by transduction out from the psychosocial

transduction out from the psychosocial field into biology whilst escaping

field into biology whilst escaping conscious attention at the EG field

conscious attention at the EG field level with sufficient collapse of

level with sufficient collapse of individual autonomy and increasing

individual autonomy and increasing compensating homeostatic pressure from

compensating homeostatic pressure from The genome and its instincts a

The genome and its instincts a psychosomatic storm of representational

psychosomatic storm of representational symptoms and disorders may follow at a

symptoms and disorders may follow at a lower veency of effect this explains the

lower veency of effect this explains the routine presentations in cases of

routine presentations in cases of classical hysteria somat disorder and

classical hysteria somat disorder and conversion reactions in medicine and

conversion reactions in medicine and depth psychology in the case of a

depth psychology in the case of a psychosomatic storm the depletion of

psychosomatic storm the depletion of homeostasis is so great that multiple

homeostasis is so great that multiple disorders may appear at the

disorders may appear at the psychological and physiological levels

psychological and physiological levels with extensive disruption to

with extensive disruption to psychosocial adaptation politically

psychosocial adaptation politically directed top-down constraints of the

directed top-down constraints of the Natural Freedom of a population will be

Natural Freedom of a population will be a powerful trigger of Downstream

a powerful trigger of Downstream psychosomatic storm effects as defeat

psychosomatic storm effects as defeat and despair are leveraged to maximize

and despair are leveraged to maximize compliance informational field in

compliance informational field in psychos systems analysis and yungan

psychos systems analysis and yungan neuros psychoanalysis an informational

neuros psychoanalysis an informational field is a heterogeneous field of

field is a heterogeneous field of informational states that are connected

informational states that are connected so held together relationally by

so held together relationally by association to one another such fields

association to one another such fields are not therefore homogeneous as in the

are not therefore homogeneous as in the singular electron field in physics

singular electron field in physics composed only of electrons rather they

composed only of electrons rather they are fields of associative interaction

are fields of associative interaction that can exchange energy and information

that can exchange energy and information within and between themselves and so

within and between themselves and so change through such interaction their

change through such interaction their composition and both their

composition and both their representational and associative States

representational and associative States for example the field of a complex can

for example the field of a complex can be represented by stretching its effects

be represented by stretching its effects over the bioc psychosocial stack thereby

over the bioc psychosocial stack thereby revealing its field nature at and

revealing its field nature at and between all affected levels

between all affected levels Consciousness psychos systems analysis

Consciousness psychos systems analysis defines Consciousness to be a complexity

defines Consciousness to be a complexity of information that represents itself to

of information that represents itself to itself and then represents itself to

itself and then represents itself to other complexities of information this

other complexities of information this Baseline definition is derived from

Baseline definition is derived from informational monism and superposition

informational monism and superposition Theory which is a platonic ontological

Theory which is a platonic ontological modeling of Consciousness as such and is

modeling of Consciousness as such and is a priori to the collapse of

a priori to the collapse of Consciousness into human EG

Consciousness into human EG consciousness taken overall

consciousness taken overall Consciousness is a dynamic informational

Consciousness is a dynamic informational field phenomenon that exists in many

field phenomenon that exists in many simultaneous superpositioned states with

simultaneous superpositioned states with each state being a nodal point of

each state being a nodal point of collapse of representation of

collapse of representation of Consciousness with that collapse

Consciousness with that collapse defining any given state or organized

defining any given state or organized system as being that state or system and

system as being that state or system and the intra or inter relational Fields

the intra or inter relational Fields within and between them the Miller

within and between them the Miller number field

number field the seven plus or minus two chunks of

the seven plus or minus two chunks of information processing capacity that

information processing capacity that make immediate conscious awareness the

make immediate conscious awareness the Persona field the dynamic two-way

Persona field the dynamic two-way interface between the individual

interface between the individual organism and any two person and above

organism and any two person and above relational interaction extending out

relational interaction extending out into the collective sociocultural and

into the collective sociocultural and natural environments unlike in yung's

natural environments unlike in yung's model the Persona field is not seen as

model the Persona field is not seen as something unreal or only consciously

something unreal or only consciously constructed as an ideal mask hence the

constructed as an ideal mask hence the name Persona rather it is a component of

name Persona rather it is a component of the whole ego field that has first

the whole ego field that has first evolved and then functionally adapted as

evolved and then functionally adapted as the psychosocial interface between the

the psychosocial interface between the individual and others the self-image

individual and others the self-image field the internal mirror that is

field the internal mirror that is subjectively experienced as the

subjectively experienced as the representation of personal identity in

representation of personal identity in effect this is the EG's internal Persona

effect this is the EG's internal Persona it reflects back the 's referent

it reflects back the 's referent understanding of of itself to itself it

understanding of of itself to itself it is both tacit and implicit requiring

is both tacit and implicit requiring either direct internal checking through

either direct internal checking through the Miller number in order to become

the Miller number in order to become explicit or for its representation to

explicit or for its representation to emerge autonomously into the Miller

emerge autonomously into the Miller number so the self-image is unconscious

number so the self-image is unconscious to reflexive awareness unless it is

to reflexive awareness unless it is either a deliberately accessed or B

either a deliberately accessed or B intrudes autonomously the self-image can

intrudes autonomously the self-image can update itself continuously but will have

update itself continuously but will have a nucleus of identified with

a nucleus of identified with self-referent information drawn from the

self-referent information drawn from the continuity of the field of the

continuity of the field of the self-concept over the timeline of the

self-concept over the timeline of the individual's ongoing lifespan

individual's ongoing lifespan development it functions as the defining

development it functions as the defining focus of the field of the self-concept

focus of the field of the self-concept when the ego field reflexively examines

when the ego field reflexively examines itself the self-concept field that field

itself the self-concept field that field of systematized information which

of systematized information which extends back along the individual's

extends back along the individual's timeline containing every subjective

timeline containing every subjective experience that has ever been identified

experience that has ever been identified with by that individual as being them or

with by that individual as being them or involving them relationally this

involving them relationally this includes all bioc psychosocial states

includes all bioc psychosocial states that have ever been Associated to the

that have ever been Associated to the EG's developing sense of identified with

EG's developing sense of identified with reflexivity biopsychosocial states are

reflexivity biopsychosocial states are configurations within the objective

configurations within the objective waveform of the platonic field that also

waveform of the platonic field that also include all subjective EG field States

include all subjective EG field States or EG states of the subjective waveform

or EG states of the subjective waveform of the ego so an EG field state or EG

of the ego so an EG field state or EG State represents a transitory or

State represents a transitory or sustained configuration of the EG field

sustained configuration of the EG field sufficient to cause either partitioning

sufficient to cause either partitioning into a genan complex thereby generating

into a genan complex thereby generating the complex's self-directed autonomy or

the complex's self-directed autonomy or a forming a persistent representation of

a forming a persistent representation of itself which is incorporated into the

itself which is incorporated into the self-image as the dynamic Focus of the

self-image as the dynamic Focus of the self-concept field those autonomous

self-concept field those autonomous complexes that the ego identifies with

complexes that the ego identifies with form that part of the complex field

form that part of the complex field incorporated into the field of the

incorporated into the field of the self-concept and its focus the

self-concept and its focus the self-image the majority of the contents

self-image the majority of the contents of the self-concept field are

of the self-concept field are Consolidated into long-term memory and

Consolidated into long-term memory and are unavailable for recall by the EG's

are unavailable for recall by the EG's conscious will or intention but are

conscious will or intention but are subject to psychodynamic and field info

subject to psychodynamic and field info dnamic processes that may introduce or

dnamic processes that may introduce or return them into Association to the ego

return them into Association to the ego either in whole or in part and are

either in whole or in part and are capable of activation by directed

capable of activation by directed homeostasis the complex field that field

homeostasis the complex field that field of partitioned systematized information

of partitioned systematized information that forms in response to the EG's

that forms in response to the EG's lifespan developmental experience there

lifespan developmental experience there are three taxa of complex within this

are three taxa of complex within this field all of which form through Janan

field all of which form through Janan dissociation and regul ating

dissociation and regul ating infodynamics ego identified with

infodynamics ego identified with complexes EG aligned complexes and EG

complexes EG aligned complexes and EG non-aligned complexes all of these taxa

non-aligned complexes all of these taxa May exchange energy whether that be

May exchange energy whether that be libido metabolic and instinctive and

libido metabolic and instinctive and information so info Dynamics within and

information so info Dynamics within and between themselves either to internally

between themselves either to internally regulate the content of their relational

regulate the content of their relational field or in response to meta regulation

field or in response to meta regulation by various homeostatic processes in this

by various homeostatic processes in this way they may change their taxa in

way they may change their taxa in relation to the EG field the ontology of

relation to the EG field the ontology of complexes always concerns adaptive

complexes always concerns adaptive responses to internal and external

responses to internal and external challenges along the lifespan internal

challenges along the lifespan internal pressure arises from The genome as

pressure arises from The genome as panpan drives and Ed release meta

panpan drives and Ed release meta instincts external pressure is

instincts external pressure is anticipated by both panpan and meta

anticipated by both panpan and meta instincts the result are complexes as

instincts the result are complexes as variously systematized into optimal

variously systematized into optimal suboptimal or maladaptive fields of

suboptimal or maladaptive fields of Association typically complexes form

Association typically complexes form around key relationships and anticipated

around key relationships and anticipated scenarios for adaptive challenges

scenarios for adaptive challenges psychos systems analysis differs from

psychos systems analysis differs from yungan psychology in that it considers

yungan psychology in that it considers meta instinctive fields and pepian drive

meta instinctive fields and pepian drive pressure rather than archetypes to be

pressure rather than archetypes to be the underlying organizing Factor through

the underlying organizing Factor through which complexes form the ego partitions

which complexes form the ego partitions and devolves functional responsibility

and devolves functional responsibility to its par petitioned subsets that is

to its par petitioned subsets that is two EG states that form as complexes for

two EG states that form as complexes for a specific devolved purpose in this they

a specific devolved purpose in this they have an Adaptive evolutionary Advantage

have an Adaptive evolutionary Advantage which comes at the cost of potential

which comes at the cost of potential Neurosis or severe mental illness not

Neurosis or severe mental illness not all complexes are maladaptive those that

all complexes are maladaptive those that are not May simply be inertial such as

are not May simply be inertial such as in having been long ago Consolidated

in having been long ago Consolidated into long-term memory and function as

into long-term memory and function as non-declarative learning or are

non-declarative learning or are effectively dormant others that are

effectively dormant others that are positive in adaptive function may be

positive in adaptive function may be held in a tacit or implicit

held in a tacit or implicit identification with the self-image in

identification with the self-image in such cases these positive ego identified

such cases these positive ego identified with complexes act appropriately through

with complexes act appropriately through the EG's action in the world and

the EG's action in the world and receptivity to Inner experience the ego

receptivity to Inner experience the ego has the capacity to internally project

has the capacity to internally project aspects of its experience learning and

aspects of its experience learning and self-referent identity into and over the

self-referent identity into and over the non-o conscious or the UN conscious the

non-o conscious or the UN conscious the homeostatic response to this is to

homeostatic response to this is to generate deep structure complexes these

generate deep structure complexes these deep structure complexes respond to and

deep structure complexes respond to and attempt to correct for the ego but do

attempt to correct for the ego but do not form within the complex field of the

not form within the complex field of the ego these specialized complexes called

ego these specialized complexes called the alter ego and the moral complex

the alter ego and the moral complex which are analogous to some extent with

which are analogous to some extent with yung's Shadow and Freud's super egoo

yung's Shadow and Freud's super egoo arise as a necessary ontological

arise as a necessary ontological consequence of the development of the EG

consequence of the development of the EG field each is a field of systematized

field each is a field of systematized information that relates homeostatically

information that relates homeostatically to the EG field through their role they

to the EG field through their role they can co-opt or functionally partner with

can co-opt or functionally partner with deep structure complexes and with genan

deep structure complexes and with genan complexes of all taxa the dream ego the

complexes of all taxa the dream ego the representational form and reflexive

representational form and reflexive experience of the self-image as that has

experience of the self-image as that has transitioned from The Waking ego or

transitioned from The Waking ego or normal State and into the dream process

normal State and into the dream process both waking and dream ego states share

both waking and dream ego states share the self-concept and its fosi of the

the self-concept and its fosi of the self-image likewise they share the same

self-image likewise they share the same ego identified with complexes which

ego identified with complexes which being associated with the self-concept

being associated with the self-concept and its self-image are necessarily drawn

and its self-image are necessarily drawn into the narrative structure of the

into the narrative structure of the dream state the qualia of Consciousness

dream state the qualia of Consciousness the ontological and evolutionary qualia

the ontological and evolutionary qualia of Consciousness ranging from intuition

of Consciousness ranging from intuition as ground St field Consciousness up

as ground St field Consciousness up through inter receptive and exter

through inter receptive and exter receptive analogous to yung's

receptive analogous to yung's introverted and extroverted sensing

introverted and extroverted sensing respectively to affect as defined by

respectively to affect as defined by affective neuroscience and neuros

affective neuroscience and neuros psychoanalysis as a priori to cognition

psychoanalysis as a priori to cognition up to cognition itself as being the most

up to cognition itself as being the most recently evolved cognitive function

recently evolved cognitive function analogous to both of yung's feeling and

analogous to both of yung's feeling and thinking functions feeling for Yung was

thinking functions feeling for Yung was an affect toned rational function in

an affect toned rational function in psychos systems analysis the yungan

psychos systems analysis the yungan feeling function is cognitive but with a

feeling function is cognitive but with a receptivity to superpositioned affect

receptivity to superpositioned affect absent in pure thinking as Yung models

absent in pure thinking as Yung models that to be the ego represents its

that to be the ego represents its experience of itself and the extended

experience of itself and the extended internal and external environments

internal and external environments through any and all of the post inuitive

through any and all of the post inuitive qualia of Consciousness under normal

qualia of Consciousness under normal conditions intuition cannot represent

conditions intuition cannot represent itself as itself it must collapse into

itself as itself it must collapse into one or more of the other

one or more of the other representational qualia however under

representational qualia however under these special conditions of advanced

these special conditions of advanced dissociative training and practice both

dissociative training and practice both eastern and western Traditions it is

eastern and western Traditions it is possible to escape the limitations of

possible to escape the limitations of informational collapse into the PO

informational collapse into the PO inuitive qualia of EG Consciousness this

inuitive qualia of EG Consciousness this Advanced dissociative experience also

Advanced dissociative experience also increases the bandwidth of the Miller

increases the bandwidth of the Miller number internally Altered States Of

number internally Altered States Of Consciousness any state of E

Consciousness any state of E Consciousness that partitions under

Consciousness that partitions under natural or directed or substance-based

natural or directed or substance-based processes that include genan

processes that include genan dissociation hypnosis and hypnoidal

dissociation hypnosis and hypnoidal States dreams meditation revery fantasy

States dreams meditation revery fantasy imagination creativity disregulated

imagination creativity disregulated substance induced brain chemistry mental

substance induced brain chemistry mental illness and any other normal or abnormal

illness and any other normal or abnormal field States or states that alters EG

field States or states that alters EG Consciousness away from its Millum focus

Consciousness away from its Millum focus of attention Altered States Of

of attention Altered States Of Consciousness allow the ego to become

Consciousness allow the ego to become reflexively aware of superpositioned

reflexively aware of superpositioned informational field states that would

informational field states that would otherwise not be registered the emergent

otherwise not be registered the emergent ego field the ego is an emergent field

ego field the ego is an emergent field released ontologically in relationship

released ontologically in relationship to innate anticipations and experience

to innate anticipations and experience its field is distributed into several

its field is distributed into several superpositioned subfields the Miller

superpositioned subfields the Miller number the Persona the self-image the

number the Persona the self-image the self-concept the complex field and the

self-concept the complex field and the dream ego the ego is therefore not

dream ego the ego is therefore not localized into a single place in the

localized into a single place in the brain although the brain's evolutionary

brain although the brain's evolutionary development does map the integrated and

development does map the integrated and superpositioned field nature of the ego

superpositioned field nature of the ego as this is imminent with the development

as this is imminent with the development of the brain at the neurophysiological

of the brain at the neurophysiological level this means that the ego is

level this means that the ego is simultaneously all of its

simultaneously all of its superpositioned subfield

superpositioned subfield as these are dynamically distributed

as these are dynamically distributed informationally and materially our

informationally and materially our everyday understanding of the ego as

everyday understanding of the ego as being conscious and being the subjective

being conscious and being the subjective eye that experiences momentto moment

eye that experiences momentto moment reflexive awareness is only a partial

reflexive awareness is only a partial focal collapse of its overall field

focal collapse of its overall field informational monism and

informational monism and superpositioning Define the emergent

superpositioning Define the emergent field of the ego homeostasis homeostasis

field of the ego homeostasis homeostasis is the definition of ego strength the

is the definition of ego strength the capacity to maintain its functional

capacity to maintain its functional field integrity and ongoing adaptive

field integrity and ongoing adaptive purpose is why as a species we've

purpose is why as a species we've evolved the ego that we have to go

evolved the ego that we have to go beyond its base level of function is

beyond its base level of function is possible for this we must understand and

possible for this we must understand and utilize the fielded nature of

utilize the fielded nature of Consciousness as information and entrain

Consciousness as information and entrain controlled dissociation and

controlled dissociation and reassociation thank you so much for

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