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I became a hater. I was telling everyone
I was thinking everyone's at music
become better than everyone.
But now I'm I'm not thinking like that
again. Like I'm not now I'm even in the
sport. I'm not I'm not really I don't
think I'm competitive. But then then
I'll go and do a song with somebody.
I'll be in the studio with them. But
it's not like a I don't know what it is
but it's true. Like it's just in the
back of your mind cool. Like I can't let
my man step on my toes. All right. So,
I got to show up and be my best. Yeah.
Yeah. [Music]
[Music]
Oh, man. Fresh off the Apple Music Live.
Uh, and I'm honored to have him today
cuz he don't really like to talk to us
mere mortals. You know what I'm saying?
It's Central C sitting in the room.
What's going on, man?
I'm good, man. How are you?
Good. I'm blessed, man. It's good to
have you.
Yeah, it's good to be here.
I'm uh I'm The reason I said that too is
because I I love the fact that you don't
do too much talking. I mean, you're on
social media, you're having a good time,
living your life with your friends and
being dope, but you don't really do a
lot of sit down. So, I really do appreciate
appreciate
Yeah, I can't sit still.
So, having a convo like this is tough.
It's not even Yeah. Not cuz I can't sit
still, but I can't like I
I find it a bit awkward talking about me.
me.
Right. Right. Right. But but I notic in
your music,
a lot of your music, man, it it is about
you and obviously your accomplishments.
You're a rapper.
I hear so much about your family, your
friends, the people you love, and your
motivation, which I find,
you know, very uh appealing and dope.
You know what I'm saying? Like I I want
to start there because even at your
Apple Music Live show, you open up in
the car with your friends
And one of my favorite records off the
album that I play the most is Limitless.
Um, you know, because I feel like, look,
man, you know, everybody can talk slick.
Everybody can get money. Everybody can,
you know, talk to the girls and do all
that But when somebody's really
willing to be like, yo,
I recognize the hardships other people
are going through. I recognize the
I come from, and I want to make sure
that I
share that story with everyone. I think
that's powerful, man.
Yeah. It's important. It's important to
us. It was hard to make. It was hard to
make that song, that's what the album
was missing. It was one of the last
songs that was added to the to the
album, but
yeah, I think like as as I grow
or or like Yeah. grow away from that, I
try not to I don't know. It's just not
in the forefront of my
of my head in it. Well,
you're living a different life.
Yeah. So, it was hard to kind of channel
that. I had a few songs like that were a
bit mellow, but you couldn't hear the
pain the same way. Mhm.
Mhm.
Like you used to maybe with some of my
older stuff
other projects. Yeah.
But I had to proper channel it a bit and
and yeah, get back in that head space. I guess
guess
2022 2023 was really what exploded
for you, right? That was the Would you
say that was the time, right? Or you
would say before that? For me, as soon
as that, like I've just been in the same
headsp space from 2020, June 2020,
when Day in the Life dropped, that was
my first
Yeah, that was the first project. Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just been the same. Like I feel
like I'm the it's it's hard for me to
even be in the like understand the
difference from then till now cuz
I've just been in like the same mode
from then.
It's even like me like when looking at
other artists cuz like I reference I
reference Duck when when thinking about
this. Yeah. Cuz cuz I've seen Duck from
I wonder what year but this ain't what
they want.
That's right.
And like from and I became a fan of Duck
from then.
So in my eyes he was always Duck. I'm
not really looking at the not I'm just a
fan. I'm not looking at his views like
when he's dropping. I'm just liking the
song. I'm not looking like, oh, this
song's got more views than the last one,
or this one's got the less views than whatever.
whatever.
But then somebody said something to me
one time. It was like, yeah, like Durk's
just broke through.
And that was only like when he done the
song with Drake. I was like, how? Like
I've been listening to Dirk for like 6 years
years
and he's been in my head, he's just the
same Duck. I'm not looking at him like,
oh, he's getting he's growing. I'm not
even watching it like that. I'm just
appreciating the music.
And I think it's the same for me. that
I'm just in my own head. So, I don't
know. Uh, music became my job in 2020
and it's just been that ever since. But
you're right. There is different turning
points, but I don't I don't see them.
Probably not even That's not why you're
doing it. Once again, goes back to the
original thing. It's not why you're
doing it. You're doing it because you
have something to say and you have a
group, a community that you trying to
rep for and a family that you're trying
to take care of with a skill that you've
worked on. You know what I'm saying? Like
Like Yeah.
Yeah.
You're not like, yo, I got to I got to
get to this point and then I got to get
to this point, right? Like Yeah.
There's just one point. Yeah.
Yeah.
There's two points probably. We've made
the first point which is we have changed
our life and then the next point is
just all I'm doing is just staying alive
and working while I'm alive in it. But
I think it's that and then it's also we
we do have a bit of a problem with like
celebrating or like
like acknowledging accomplishments. So
there's no time stamps to anything. As
soon as something great happens, we just
just it's just another day in the office really.
really.
I told uh for the audience, I had told
uh Central C that uh he's the first UK
rapper to really break in the North
American hip-hop scene and radio scene
for that matter. I mean, Skeptor
obviously had a wave and collabs, but I
don't think he had, you know, and that's
my boy. But that band for band went to a
whole other level on the radio out here.
Like it was playing everywhere every hour,
hour,
all day. You know what I'm saying? Like that's
that's
and that's you know
that's something you should celebrate,
right? Cuz because even in hip-hop,
right? Like you know I live here in New
York. We um it took New York a while to
understand the slang of the South. Like
when the Migos came around, people was
like I I don't know what they saying.
And I remember like UK rappers, you
know, would come out gigs or, you know,
Skeptor, whoever would cut through, we'd
be playing their records out here and
people be like, "Yo, I don't I don't
understand what they saying." And you be
like, "Yo, they speaking English, bro.
You can't." But it's the way the the
English is put together and the
different slang that's different. You
know what I'm saying? But the fact that
you broke through
and people can understand what you're
saying opens the door for that
communication to start taking place.
Well, you think I make it easier to understand?
understand?
Well, the fact that your song was
playing on the radio, people can hear
your cadence and your flow. Yeah.
Yeah.
And starts to open the door for other MC's.
MC's.
Yeah, for sure. What do you think the
difference is
in the in the in the in the way the
language is spoken or?
No, in the in in the way that it's like now
now
more easily easily.
I think the difference becomes people
are now open-minded.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's like they tried a new try they not
they tried a new entree at the hip-hop
restaurant and they're like, "Yo, I
never even Oh, yo, this is pretty
good. Yo, y'all should check for this."
And I think more people start to check
for it. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. I think it's a few things as
well in it. I think like the fact like
have you seen Top Boy?
Yeah, that too. That's a good point.
People watching Top Boy. I remember
before before I blew up as well. It's
not a good thing at all.
That Supercell was fired too.
Yeah. people rated that over here. I I
even seen that. But that's great.
Off this new uh Can't Rush Greatness. Um
like I said, I love Limus uh Limitless GBP
GBP
um with the 21 Savage joint. Oh, that's
GPP. No, the Skeptor joint 10.
Yeah. Yeah.
Um you performed that joint on uh the
Apple Music Live. Talk about the stage
setup and the and the creativity around
the visual. We saw Apple Music Live. you
know, your thought process going into a
show that size because I I mean that was
monumental, right? You say you guys
don't really stop and smell the roses,
but I hope you walked out there and was
like, "Oh shit." Like O2
UK. Do
you know what? I was actually mad
emotional at the OT, you know, not at
the not during the show, not before the
show or during it or maybe actually near
the end like when like there's the end
bit and like the confetti comes out and
like even someone says I thought you was
going to cry, you know, and I was like I
think I was you know slightly but
yeah cuz all my family was in there and
then I can't lie.
Then like when I've come backstage I
don't know. Yeah, it was weird, you
know, cuz I don't know like I don't I'm
bad at emotions in it. Like sometimes
I'm supposed to cry but I laugh. Like my
body just laughs or like Yeah. Like my
my brain's just a bit mash up but like
there was some there was I was emotional
in it. Um
but the create the creative behind it I
don't know. I think um what I always try
and do, I don't always get it right. And
I still don't have I'm still not like so
proud of that show um creatively.
creatively.
I think there's there's something that a
man could do maybe a bit more
simplistically in it. There's a few
references to some people's shows at the
moment that I liking it and and they're
all pretty simple,
but ours was a bit complicated. But what
I want to do is when people come and see
me in real life at a show, I want them
to see
what they see on the internet in it.
Whether it's music videos or like my
Instagram, which is all pretty
consistent and anytime you really see
me, it's the same kind of kind of thing.
All my videos are kind of similar or
whatever. So yeah, I just wanted to
paint that that picture on stage as best
as I could. That's what I was trying to do.
do.
I feel like you got it though.
Especially the way I mean you the tone
is set from the intro.
The intro suck. The intro and the outro perfect.
perfect.
Yeah, the intro. And I don't know if you
saw the outro.
Nobody really caught on to it as much as
I wanted them to. But the so the whole
shows actually
we started um the creative started I had
I just knew the aesthetic like I wanted
the the house the whole stage is kind of
like a house and you're seeing different
like things happening whatever whatever.
But then it just like a few days before
the show started um the tour started, we
had a I had a it felt like a great idea
um to do that intro cuz I knew I always
was going to have the Yaris on stage,
but I didn't know how I was really going
to introduce it. M.
So, we filmed the intro and as I'm as
I'm planning it or like kind of like me
and my me and my bridge and Luchi is
kind of like scripting the intro.
We thought we thought it could be funny
if like then the outro comes out at the
end and the whole thing was a dream.
Right. Right.
So, in the beginning, it's like supposed
to be before when music wasn't my life
and I've smoked the zoot and I've got
super high.
I've fell asleep. I've had a dream of
the whole show and then the outro pops
back up and I'm asleep in the car.
Bridgeten wakes me up and I was like
hell. Like I was just having a
mad dream about performing this and that
and um yeah, I thought that was a cool
concept. No one really caught on to it
that that that much in it, but like
like
Well, we got Apple Music Live on the
service now. They can go back and watch.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go watch it.
Check for it. You seem competitive.
I must be in it. I don't I don't see it.
Like I don't I don't really I don't see
it but I like I must be but I don't know
who you're with. I don't know who I'm
competing with.
But yeah, I have to assume that when you
first started to hear rappers that you
were like, "Nah, I can do that." And I
want like I have to assume that there
were people that you came up and just
when you was a a little dude like
rapping who thought they was better than you.
you. No.
No.
No. You haven't you haven't had to
Not really. No. like coming up I was I
just appreciated like I just listen I
thought yeah I want to do that as well.
I never thought
I got to be better than this guy
or may no I didn't for a lot for a long
time. So I started rapping when I was
like 14 or no I started rapping younger.
I actually released something when I was
like 14 and then I didn't um pop off
until I was 20
22. Yeah. Um,
but for the longest amount of time, I
was just making music. Like I had so
much faith
that I wasn't watching anything and I
was just cool. Like I thought I
appreciated everybody's music and this
and that and I was just a bit I don't
know. I don't know what what the turning
point was though in my head. I lost
faith in myself. I started getting
insecure in my own craft
cuz it wasn't do it wasn't going
anywhere in it slightly. that had some
sort of little motion, but I wasn't
happy with it. Then I remember a switch
started happening. Maybe I weren't happy
with my life. So I'd be in certain
environments that I didn't really want
to be in. And I'm just looking at I'm
going on my phone now and I clocked
myself I became a hater. But it's mad
cuz I grew up for my whole life up until
I don't know maybe like 18. I never knew
no feeling of jealousy,
hate like I was actually I don't know
even now it's probably I've probably
gone back to my natural state in it. I
have no hate. I'm not I don't I don't
No jealousy, no.
No, I don't really feel them feelings
there. But I remember in that time and
that's how you know you're just a
product of your environment in it. Cuz
when I'm there and I'm looking, I don't
want to be in this house. I'm scrolling
my phone. I'm looking at these rappers
now that I used to rate. I'm looking at
I think these are man.
Like the same people that I used to
think were hard. I said, "These are
I'm better. I must be better than
them." I said, "This guy's not even the truth."
truth."
Like, I'm start I'm starting clocking
how it is to be a hater. And I became
that. Um, but give thanks, man. Got out
of that mindset still. But I understand
how it can how it can be in it when
you're not when you're somewhere you
don't want to be.
That's right.
And I So, I think that's why I don't I
don't petty anybody's opinion either. I
grew up
like on the other side of that stick as
well. Like cool. Like I saw people being
jealous. People was jealous all the time
in it before I even start making music.
I just when I'm I don't know. It's just natural
natural
to me. I don't I don't It's nothing for
for people to have an opinion on me like
outside of my circle. As long as my
people like rate me. my mom has some
like respect for man or me like I've got
respect within man's family or whatever
that's all that matters to me in it
everything else is it's whatever I
think people gravitate to that that confidence
confidence
you know that means you come from a
loving place a real place and you know a
healthy place too [Music]
[Music]
but even that self-reflection you shared
with us I think is super healthy right
acknowledging that you were stuck, not
quite happy with yourself.
That created negative negative vibes fully
fully
hating. I start became a hater. I was
telling everyone I was thinking
everyone's at music. I think I'm
better than everyone.
But now I'm I'm back. I'm I'm not
thinking like that again. Like I'm not I
now I'm even in the sport. I'm not I'm
not really I don't think I'm
competitive. But then then I'll go and
do a song with somebody.
I'll be in the studio with them. But
it's not like a I don't know what it is,
but it's true. Like it's just in the
back of your mind. Cool. Like I can't
let my man step on my toes. Like
I got to show up and be my best.
Yeah. So I guess Yeah. Cuz people say,
"Oh, like you some people say like your
best verses are my best verses are when
I'm rapping on somebody else's song."
And it like it's it might be true. Like
that is when I do rap a little bit
different. Like when I'm just by myself,
I'm just swing.
You and Dave Cook, boy.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good feeling.
feeling.
Beast, too. So, I'm sure. But I mean
that he he he I'm sure he's you know
that's your that's your friend probably
outside the game. You guys have done
what five, like six, seven records
together at this point.
Yeah. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? You got the
the the EP project, but then collabs
outside of that.
Yeah. So, I got to assume you guys love
working together.
Yes, it's
I don't really work with any I haven't
really worked with many people in it.
So, yeah, he's somebody that I've worked
with much more than anybody else.
And yeah, it's it's it's good. It get it
gets something
different. Yeah. out on my like when I'm
writing on my notes I'm writing a little
bit more different like I'm taking into
considerate or like even it's good as
well like he'll say something then man
can like run off the back of what he's
just said and it's easier for me it's
easier to write like that as well like
that's fire
what's one of your favorite records
well I can't say sprinter sprinter
obviously sick in it
why not cuz it's popular
no I think it's actually
No I think it's actually a good song as
well. I
That's what I'm saying. Like it's a it's
popular cuz it's good. It's not one of
those like
It is. And that's what surprised me, you
know? I didn't I've said it before
anyway, but I didn't think that song was
going to go. Why?
Why?
Cuz it's a good song.
Like I've never seen I don't know. Like
Well, cuz it's bars. Like it's bars. It's
It's
Yeah. Not cuz it's a good song in it. I
thought cuz it's too lyrical. like it's
like very like I just writ
all of my other songs that I've gone
like I write them with the agenda to to
go like that one there I was just
barring when I'm listening back to it
like there was nothing in it that like I
thought was catchy but what is catchy is
that it's good music as well the
instrumental is good
and then
yeah I think it's just it's we wrapped
well and then but that's it's it's rare
that a song pops off for
for it being good and not for it being a
gimmick or it being having some sort of
like mad catchy uh thing on Tik Tok or something.
something.
Yeah. Know that
it was just actually a rap song.
Central Sea's name. Uh we getting some
time with him today. You got your JCole
collab. HB fire on my delete later. Um
is there a story behind that? How that
came together? They reached out. or you
knew y'all was just happen to be in the same
same
I was supporting Andre's tour
which was cool. Um then I went home and then
then
but I had met my boy Harley who
engineers he's he was part of their
team. He's part of their team.
I've taken him back to London and we've
just started working and then if I
remember correctly I think just to get
inspired and that cuz I was just working
at home anyway. We said, "Yeah, let's
just like Jake's carrying on touring.
Like, let's just jump back on the road."
I weren't supporting the tour. Um, but
just jump back on on the road
and and then just carry on like just
working remotely and whatever, whatever.
And then JCole must have been
supporting. I met him there and then um
Oh, yeah. Cuz him and Drake was doing a
couple of shows together, right? Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
And JCole had already I see a video
online of him listening to Sprinter, so
I knew he was cool. him. Yeah. No, when
I when I met him, I was just talking to him.
him.
Coolest dude, right?
Sickest guy still. So, I was I was just
talking to him about some and
then he I don't know. He he just sent me
the song still and then that was it.
Yo, isn't it cool? Like I I have to
imagine you was a kid who loves this
hip-hop and watched all these guys,
right? And you meet them and they're
just cool as Drake's cool as
Cole's cool as Kendrick, they're
cool. Like they're just regular cool dudes.
dudes.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. six still. It's
weird cuz I It's like I forget that I
was even watching them when I was a youth.
youth.
Right. Before um that first project
dropped. You say you was what 17 on the
first project? 18 on the first project.
Well, I don't want to say that. My first
project, my first project was in 2020
one and I was 202.
22. So
prior to that,
you deciding to be in music and make
this your profession. This is where I'm going.
What was the pressure from the family at
that time? Like what was what was like the,
the,
you know, was it was it support? Was it
like, yo, what the are you doing?
Yeah. My mom and my dad are split in it
and they're both so different. They're
both raised proper different. And yeah,
my dad is on whatever and support
anything I'm doing right or wrong.
So, and he's Gian. Yeah.
Yeah. My dad's gy and my mom's English
and my mom
Yeah. She weren't rating it in it.
Rightfully so, though.
It's not
It's not guaranteed.
It's a It's a liability, isn't it?
Yeah. Yeah. It's dangerous out here. Not
not even I don't even think on on
adapting, but it's just like there's not
even no great examples many examples of
like I don't know maybe it just seemed un
un
unachievable like it was it was
far-fetched for me. I'm literally I'm
like 13 14 like dropping music not doing
I left we I left school I was 16.
I left my moms I was 14. Me and my mom
didn't speak for like good few years
and then like yeah then there was no
sign of me doing anything like
uh traditional. So my mom didn't really
rate it. No, but
but
but I appreciate that she didn't in it.
It's only she
she want what's best for you. Yeah.
Yeah.
And she wants something guaranteed that
her baby's going to be safe, too.
Yeah. Yeah. My mom's mad like when um so
so I left my my house I was like 14 I
think I tried to go back when and I was
like seven like 16
and um
she was like she she ripped me like a
like a said cool if you want to come
back to the house you got to do this
this this this
and they would the rules were so my
mom's strict so then but one of them was
get a job in it you can get a job when
you're 16 legally
um when in in the UK. So
So then like all cool, whatever. I went
to the sneaker store. Yeah.
Yeah. Um
Um
in Westfield in my area,
but I I told my mom, "Print me one CV."
And um she's like, "How you think you're
going to get a job with one CV?" I said,
"I'm going to go Westfield. I'm going to
give it to this one store." So you need
more than that. Like cuz obviously
that's back in the I don't know if they
still do that now, but probably
drop the resume off.
Yeah. you'll probably give it to every store.
store. Yeah.
Yeah.
But I only wanted to work in one place
and I went in there and I think cuz I've
shopped in there, I think I knew they
kind of rated me like so I knew I could
give them and I knew that I knew I'd get
the job in it and I did. So I got that
job. That that was one of the that was
one and I only had it for a month in it
and then by the time I quit that job, my
mom made me leave the house again. But
or no, she gave me a bit of leeway what
she was doing cuz my brothers, my little
brothers were still going to school and
they leave the house at like 7:30 a.m.
Now I've got no job. Yeah. Or maybe this
was before I found a job. I can't
remember, but I just remember this is
how strict my mom was. I've got nothing
to do
the whole day. Whatever. I have to leave
my house and I've got no key. I have to
leave my house at 7:30 a.m. when they go
to school. Oh, cuz you couldn't sit in
the house.
Yeah, but I've got nowhere to go. So,
I've just have to like do whatever I'm
doing. I'll go to my bridge. I I'll go
to the mall and I'll just sleep in the
mall for a bit. Then by the time one of
my guys wake up,
I'll link them or I'll wake up my guy,
I'll just sleep on his floor. But
But
and then figure out what the day look like.
like.
Yeah. But like obviously them times
there, I wonder I probably wasn't rating
my mom that much for it. I was probably
thinking that's you. But it's it's all
good in it. It's all character building
and it's all for the right.
There you go.
She's got the right idea in it.
In 2014, you was calling yourself
Central C or you was Oakley at the time.
No, I was Central C.
Where did the name come from?
I think I see a interview. Yeah.
Of um Tiny Tempo saying how he got his
name in it
and it was something like just he just
made it up or something it but he said
like there was the alliteration like the
T sounded good together.
Yeah. And then I knew I had a next name
that I won't even put out there, but it
was something with my government last
name in it. My my surname is Caesar. So
I had like Caesar or something
something. That's all I must have been
like 12 or something cuz I was Central C
by 2014. But I just Yeah, I knew I
wanted it something C. So, I've just
gone in the dictionary and just put all
the uh words like capital C, central C,
something C, this this that and then I
think I asked my mom. I don't know if
she chose Central C, but I was maybe ask
one or two people.
She had no idea that this and then she
want to kick you out the crib and all
this type of She done gave you the
rap name.
It's mad, isn't it?
Come on, mom. Glad this all worked out.
Yeah, man. She is, too.
You guys You guys are great right now, right?
right?
She's with me now. She's She's She's on
tour with me, which is great. Oh, that's
beautiful. Good for you, man.
Yeah, man. We're good still.
That's a blessing, man.
Yeah. Biggest blessing still. Biggest
blessing. We're all here. Everyone's
here. My brothers are here. My brethrens
are here.
It's it's it's that's that's the main obviously
obviously
it's hard. It's It's like the shows are
great. Meeting the fans are cool, but
being able to like travel the world like
with man's people
like that's that's that's what's more. I
don't know which one's more surreal.
But probably even probably that they're
both surreal, in it, but that's that's I
feel that more. We're all here. We're
Yeah. all getting inspired and and
working still. There was times was just
sleeping on the floor.
That's a blessing, bro. It's a blessing.
That's it. It's a beautiful blessing.
It's healthy. And you know what I'm
saying? Like
you'll be able to put that magic in the
music. You'll be able to figure that out
and tell that story the right way where
it's, you know,
the fans will love you for it, man.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I look forward to it. Central C. Um,
man, it's been a pleasure talking to
you, bro. Uh, I really love meeting uh
dope artists who want to take care of
hip-hop. You know what I'm saying?
No, thank you, bro. And, um, yeah,
flowers to you as well still cuz
that's love.
Yeah. I said when I when I see you, I
said it feels like I've met met you
already cuz Yeah. Everyone's watched all
everything, all the legendary
interviews, everything.
Good or bad, right?
Yeah. Yeah,
the good and the bad. I get crazy
sometimes, bro.
Yeah, I know. I remember even I remember
even think like you know what's mad?
That's why that's how delusional I was
though before I even blew before he even
became successful in the thing. I'm
watching I'm thinking yeah, how am I
going to act when I'm on the radio of
Ero? I said I don't know if I even rate
him, you know, like he's moving a bit
too mad on certain things. I say no, I
like him. But like, yeah, I've thought
I've thought about all of this stuff. Yeah,
Yeah,
but it's good to meet you, man.
Listen, man. I just I just want you know
I have a uh I feel like I listen even
yourself but that's up to you to decide
how how you how you how you take the
challenge but
I think that we we have been given an
opportunity to make sure that this music
and this kind of art expression thing
that kids from the street you know what
I mean come from neighborhoods that
people ain't paying attention to get to
like tell their story and make a
gang of money and potentially change
their family's life. So I feel like when
people come along and they acting like
the is some throwaway I'm offended.
offended. Hey,
Hey,
Central C, you can't rush greatness,
which is a gem for everybody watching
this conversation because bro is taking
his time. He's putting great music
together. I want to play Don't Know anymore.
anymore.
And I want to play that uh cuz I feel
like you put that at the end of the
project for a purpose and a reason.
Do you rate me Mill?
Of course.
Yeah, I rate Me still. He he he told me
that if I see him that's how that's the
little things that make man like cool
like this is this is like a bit proud
like when I see him he's like the album
just dropped as well. He's like you know
like someone could say oh the album's
cold you know it's like how much do I
know that you listen to the album he's
like bro that don't know anymore.
Yeah man
he's like that don't know anymore. He's
like like I can't remember what he said
but he sound like you're saying you're
saying what like what we living or
something like said something I'm like
yeah love bro like so yeah that's an
important song still
um how hard you talked about limitless
being tough to record like the the
finding the pain and finding the
similarly on this song you had to dig
for this. Yeah.
So much to like we had to change some
lyrics, change one, two lyrics.
Some feelings might have hurt,
but Yeah. No, you're right still. Yeah.
If if it was cool though to write
writing it was cool. I I recorded it in
a studio. I think it's so emotionally
emotionally
like revoke. It's so emotional. Revoking
so much emotion. Like I didn't even
bother re-recording it. I think I should
have cuz the recording wasn't that great
and even my voice wasn't that great.
I think that Well, I think that gives it
It's the real emotion. Like if I went to
go and re-record it, it would not have
been the same in it.
The imperfections are always what makes
the magic in my opinion.
No, I hear you. I hear that as well
still. I've been recording on my phone
recently and I I like how it sounds like
that. Yeah, man. The flaws are good
still. Keep the flaws. Do you rate Sexy Red?
Red?
Of course. Of course. One thing I know
about Sexy Red is she's funny as
and she's she's she's better than people
give her credit for.
Like there's a there's a like I saw her
perform and I was like, "Oh,
when I had like I I liked her off Pound
Town cuz I was it sound like a
freestyle. I was like, "Oh, no. This is
fire." And then she kind of kept
doubling down on that and I was like,
"Where's this going?" Then I saw her
live and I was like,
"Why? But what what made you think that
when she was live?
The care that she put into the live show.
show. M
M
that made that showed me, oh, this isn't
by accident.
Was it her show or
No, it was her It was her show.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Uh we booked her out here for a summer
jam in New York and I saw just the whole series.
series.
She's the coldest. Yeah.
Yeah.
Even I see her in Live like in Miami. M
it's not a show but she's just doing
free songs but like the way she had it
like she had all her brethrens there
like it reminded me of me but all of
that I know it's fought through for her
or maybe it's even not and that makes it
even cooler but either way either way it's
it's
well there's certain things that I feel
like she thinks through and then there's
certain where she's just it's lifestyle
lifestyle
how she's living it's how she's living
it's how she's talking it's her
she's giving you her
um and it's not contrived I guess is
what I'm saying it's not like a madeup
persona. That's really that person
who knows who she is and is comfortable
with who she is.
And even with the collabs, like even her
collabing with you, uh even some of, you
know, the Bruno Mars of the world or,
you know, I heard a song with her in a
country artist, like the fact that she's
moving around in all these spaces, um I
think is is dope. Um and then, you know,
like I said earlier, I'm patient. I want
to see how where where artists take this
as they mature in the public eye
and as they mature as human beings,
right? Cuz where she started, where she
come from, she's been able to see the
world and I would love to see that how
that forms her artistry.
She's rare. She's rare still. I like her
a lot.
Well, how did you guys connect for this collaboration?
collaboration?
Can't lie. Big up Drake cuz on the Drake
tour as well. Just met Well, I met
That's how I met her in it. That's where
we made the link and then
I just sent her the song. I had the
song. Sent her song and then Yeah. rest.
Rest was it.
That it. Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah, Drake connected a good few
dots, so thanks to him.
Um, what you've collabed with Ashake,
you got little the little baby also, uh,
Young Ads. Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, and you also bring them out on your
on your show, too, right?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We brought everyone
out of the O2 and it I felt a bit bad
for everyone on the rest of the for the
rest of the Europe tour.
We didn't bring anyone that I had
collabed out with if I remember
correctly. But then O2 I just brought
out all the wild cards in it. It was
last minute though in my in my fa in in
if it makes it sound any better. Wasn't
planning to just spoil London and
disregard everywhere else. It was just
last minute. I realized
in London is hometown though, so it's a
little it's different.
Yeah. I just realized Wait, hold
on. I'm doing the O2. It can't just be
me. Hold on. Let me just pick up the
phone and just start calling everyone.
So yeah.
Are you uh you you you do a lot of that
work yourself connecting with people.
Yeah, I try to do it all in it.
I tried. It can only I think it should
only be me.
If it's anybody else,
just forget it, man. It's not Yeah,
Yeah,
it's not real. Like it feels fake. If
you got management reaching out,
there's some people that I'd be fake for though.
though.
Some people I need a feature. I don't by
any means.
But no, I'm joking. But yeah, maybe
actually though like Adele, I don't know
how I'm going to shout her, but
but it's going to happen. Yo, Adele's
cool as You met her?
I see her. No, I haven't met her like that.
that.
Cool as bro.
Yeah, I can imagine still. She's never
done a feature in her life, you know?
Not one feature.
I didn't even think about that.
From the beginning of her career. Do you
know how much integrity that must have
took for her? Like imagine how many
people was hitting her that were her
idols and she's just saying nah I'm all
right you know I don't even I'm not
doing features however she's doing it
but she just stayed she's just done her
own thing whole time which is mad so I
don't think she's going to do one with
me but
I just sample her chop that up make
that a drill beat and then run over
yeah something I'll take anything
I'll tell you anything
why not
she could send me a voice note I just
put her voice like that
As it says, his debut studio album,
Can't Rush Greatness, became his second
number one on the UK album chart. It
also debuted at number nine on the
Billboard 200, becoming the first top 10
UK rap album in America. Yeah.
Yeah.
You heard that before?
Yeah. Sounds good, isn't it?
he's the one who sets them kind of
goals. And it's good cuz I I won't set
them goals in it. But you need to at the
same time like think about some of these
stuff. So that's that's
I'm happy for him that we done that in
it. I'm glad that we done that. Um
but yeah, obviously it's it's good though.
though.
But now the next one drops and the next
one drops. Yeah.
Yeah.
That's the part where it's good. It's
good that you're in the mindset that
you're in,
right? Because you don't want to chase
charts, bro.
You don't want that.
No, you don't. But yeah, you don't want
to, but you
but you want to make quality that
you have to as well though. I understand
that you have to nowadays kind of like
obviously perception is everything is in
it. So you got to take that into you got
to keep that in the front of your mind
all the time still.
All it takes is one two something
numbers to drop on whatever it is and
then Yeah.
There you go. His name is Central C.
Man, thank you for your time today.
Thank you so much. Keep going, man. I
hope to see you again.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? Are we Is there
there
like how do you with an album with how
do you
how are you thinking about like the next
like is your brain even there? Yeah.
Yeah.
You thinking about a next project?
I was already thinking what we obviously
thinking kind of like what we going to
do before we even drop the the project.
But I don't know. There's so many ways
we can take it and um that's yeah this
up for it's up for debate in our in our
head. It's all in the air. We don't
know. We never really know in it. Either
way, we always keep the options open.
Might try something. Don't really work.
Just go all the way left. I don't know.
But we're going to do something. I hope. Yeah.
Yeah.
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