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meta that these things happen to them
thought may this person be
happy may this person be
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so what we want to do is cultivate the compa
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but I would say on a on a deeper level
yourself that involves all kinds of like
things about moving your life forward
and they struggle with motivation in
it's because when I don't think I'm worth
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when you develop empathy and compassion
for other
people there's going to be room for
someone else in the
relationship and then this in turn is
object now two people can
connect and now it's not about getting
it's about two human beings forming a relationship
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alrighty chat let's get started sorry
for being a little bit late
today um we are doing a deep dive into cptsd
cptsd
and uh I found some really interesting
research over the last 24 hours that
took me a little bit of time to
incorporate um so it took a little bit
longer and I was just prepping
everything so that once we get started I
won't be stumbling around trying to find
stuff so
today we
are speaking of stumbling
around today we are stumbling around no
um so today we are going to be doing a
deep dive into
cptsd um just to remind that although
I'm a psychiatrist nothing we discussed
on stream today is intended to be taken
as medical advice everything is for
educational and entertainment purposes
only um if yall have a concern or
question please go see a licensed
professional this is especially
important as we're talking about today
because oh my God quiet you um this is
very important today because today we
are going to be talking about clinical
stuff right so this is not a substitute
for clinical treatment the goal of what
we try to do here on stream is to
educate people
and if yall resonate with some of the
stuff that we're talking about I highly
recommend that you go see a clinical
professional um we're going to talk a
little bit about evidence-based
treatment for cptsd at the end of the Deep
Deep
dive and yeah
so uh today we're doing a deep dive into
cptsd and then the other thing that
we're going to do today actually just as an
an
FYI so we're going to start with this so
I know that often times people will want
us to do things at HG so I want to show youall
youall something
something
so uh
oh hold on
fail there works okay so you'll notice
that someone made a post about a year
ago when is Dr K going to make a
comprehensive or even short video on
cptsd or does he have one that I already
missed so and then can Dr K make a video
on cptsd these are both from one year
ago these are just the two posts that we
found that were about a year old but
people have been asking this for a while
so the first thing that I want to say is
that when y'all ask for stuff like this
we pay attention it just takes a while
to do right so like between someone
posting this and actually like building
it um sometimes we have faster
turnaround times but many times like it
takes a while so we're paying attention
to everyone's requests I saw a post a
couple days ago that I responded to uh
from someone sort of saying like hey HG
feels like a boy club is it and yeah we
get that it feels that way sometimes but
we have a lot of great content coming
out for women there's certain challenges
to that so I know sometimes like on the
internet we're getting used to instant
gratification in some kind of response
but we do pay attention to the stuff and
we add this stuff to the list which is
very large and then we get around to it
when we can so since this thing got
posted in addition to this deep dive
which we're going to do today we also
built a whole trauma module so this uh
is about it basically takes about as
long to build a module as it does to
write a book um the scripting for the
module is about 50 to 80,000 words a
non-fiction book so the book that I
words so like we built a a guide um I'll
show you all just real quick so like the
other cool thing is that guides are
getting more complicated so like the
cool thing about a guide is that we can
add a lot of other stuff right so we're
trying to build like graphics and stuff
like that um that help emphasize like
the understanding of the principles that
play right so we teach a lot of science
and sometimes a picture is worth a
thousand words and thankfully we have a
whole team here at HG that helps us make
pictures um so this these are the trauma
guide Graphics that we're building uh so
I know this sounds like really this
seems like kind of overwhelming but I
guarantee you that when I talk about the
neuroscience and explain the
Neuroscience like this is going to help
people actually understand right so we
teach a lot of in-depth Neuroscience in
the guide um
so this these are this is the temporo
parietal Junction so we're going to talk
about this like just so you all know
something cool if you electrically
stimulate the temporo parial junction
you can trigger an out-of- Body
Experience super
cool um don't go trying that at home
kids so uh you know just as we're we're
teaching some of these like so here's
the challenge is like Neuroscience can
help us a lot right so in the same way
that we can understand things like how
muscles build and like taking creatine
and and exercising and we want to do
some number of reps like there's a bunch
of exercise physiology which has been
demystified and made available to human
beings the challenge is that we have a
ton of Neuroscience that has not been
demystified and made available instead
what we try to do is like translate
things into layman's terms and then try
to make it somewhat accessible through
like Publications like hbr and stuff
like that right where we'll have some
pop Neuroscience where they'll say like
hey this one trick will transform your
life like we do that stuff too so
especially in the guide we try to really
like teach all this stuff because I
think that when I when I work with my
patients I actually teach them all of
these things or not I mean not
everything but as much as I can about
how their physiology works because
that'll help you a lot especially with
trauma um so there's a bunch of
different stuff that we've got going on
you know we're building things for y'all
uh and super excited about it the guide
I think comes out soon and so what we're
going to do today is actually watch one
video of the guide after the Deep dive
so we're going to do a deep dive into
cptsd then we're going to show you all a
video from the guide just to illustrate
something because it's explained in
there and I think it's a it's a cool
video um and then we're going to get to
Q&A okay let's see if anyone has
questions before we begin I'm going to
um okay will will you ever talk yeah
we've talked about schizophrenia before
um but we'll we'll talk about it again for
for
sure uh I had a we're actually working
on something where we may um
um
get into schizophrenia soon actually
okay um yeah so as as mods are telling
y'all the guide video that we're going
to showing be showing y'all today is not
the Final Cut um it's still in like post
so we're just going to be sharing it
with y'all today this will be by the way
this stream is going to be available
okay so it you know like I think it just
stays on our our various channels um
okay okay so we're all
traumatized so that's a great way to
start so today we're going to be talking
about complex PTS D and the reason that
I think this is really important to talk
about is because it's my belief that
features of PTSD are present in large
percentages of the population without
being a full-blown diagnosis now let me
explain what the hell that
means so if we look at the
epidemiology the rates the the
prevalence of PTSD is about 1.5% so 1.5%
of human beings on the planet have
post-traumatic stress disorder
about half a percent or about a third of
those people have something called
complex PTSD and we'll get to what that
is so the interesting thing is if you
look at what separates PTSD and
cptsd if you remove the PTSD component
what is left over I think is actually
quite common in our society today that's
why despite the fact that only one out
of 20000 people has a diagnosis of cptsd
it is my firm belief that understanding
that component will be very helpful to a
lot of the people in our community and
in the world so for me for example when
I work with people who have other
diagnoses like major depressive disorder
or addictions especially what I found is
that the more that I learned about cptsd
the more effective of a clinician I
became at treating these people so
that's why we're kind of diving it into
it today and as I think a a large
portion of our community and people
today resonate with some of the features
of P
cptsd so let's start with a little bit
of History so the first thing is like
what are these diagnoses and where do
they come from so a couple maybe about
80 years
ago soldiers came back from War and what
doctors noticed was that these soldiers
like weren't all there so they seem to
have like this brain fog they have
difficulty concentrating they're like
having like emotional problems they
drink more they can't incorporate back
into society so the first round of
doctors said oh this is something called
shell shock and so what they thought
happened is that even though this person
doesn't have an actual physical injury
the concussive blast of an explosion
must have hit their brain in some way
and caused
damage so okay the original form of PTSD
was born and we called it shell shocked
it's because a bomb went off off like
very close close to you you didn't
actually get hurt and then but there was
some kind of vibration or concussive
blast that affected your brain that's
the injury it's not like shrapnel or
anything like that so no bleeding but an
internal injury so then what happened is
as we started to like work with veterans
more and more and more we started to
realize that this is happening to a lot
of people that like weren't in the
concussive blast zone so they like saw
one of their friends die or something
like that they were only on the field of
battle for like a day and they just like
retreated but still they saw someone die
and then these people had the symptoms
of shell shock so shell shock started
with like concussive blast and then we
noticed that people have these symptoms
but haven't experienced concussive
blasts this is where PTSD was born so
PTSD is
usually an adaptation or a maladaptation
of the body to an acute specific
traumatic event in in its original form
PTSD was primarily found in soldiers so
seeing a friend die or something like
that results in
PTSD then what happened is once we had
this construct once we had these like
diagnostic criteria and stuff clinicians
made a really interesting observation we
see this kind of PTSD or shell shock
whatever phenomenon in people who have
never been in combat and they're like
what on Earth they have all the same
symptoms but they've never been in
combat then we expanded PTSD to being
non combat related things things like
sexual trauma or physical abuse or even
things like bullying and stuff like that
so the the the web of PT or the scope of
pts group PTSD group we'll talk about
what it is in a
second then what happened is a group of
researchers noticed that some people with
with
PTSD have more a different flavor to it
and have different kinds of symptoms and
they noticed something really important
that if the trauma is chronic if it is
consistent over time that results in a
different clinical picture and this is
where complex PTSD was born so if we
look at regular PTSD here's the way that
I understand it okay so first of all it
has three core features so one is
reexperiencing the second is avoidance
and the third is I'm blanking I can't
believe I'm blanking on this
um so there's lots of diagnostic
criteria but they get lumped into three
things reexperiencing avoidance
hypervigilance maybe hold on I will
figure this out give me a second
chat the joys of AATA
memory okay oh hyper yeah so hyper hyper
vigilance hyperarousal is the word that
they use okay so basically PTSD has
three core clusters of of symptoms
hypervigilance or hyperarousal um
reexperiencing in avoidance so let's
understand what PTSD is so we start off
off with a human being who is relatively
well formed and
healthy and then some kind of traumatic
event happens to them and then their
physiology their brain their being
adapts to try to survive that thing the
problem is the way that we adapt to
survive that one instance creates
maladaptations or problems going forward
so let's use a very simple
example so let's say that I end up in a
car crash right so I'm a relatively
healthy person I'm in my mid 20s and I
get into a car accident so once I get
into a car accident there is a
hyperactivation of my nervous system my
autonomic nervous system so I have
adrenaline pumping through my body I
have cortisol getting flushed into my
body and then my brain is being
hyperactive I'm hyperventilating I get
taken to the hospital and then I end up
I end up being okay now the problem is
that our
brain has evolved to adapt so a human
being can adapt to circumstances and
what the brain does is says hey we
almost died there let's be extra extra
extra careful and make sure that never
happens again so this is where what we
see in PTSD is first of all people will
have then other things happen we'll get
into this in more detail but other
things happen that will kind of numb out
our brain and so then what happens is
all of these experiences get dissociated
they live dorm they're dormant in our
subconscious and then they will arise
again so people will have flashbacks
they will have nightmares this is these
are both diagnostic features but this is
what we call reexperiencing even though
the event is over people a part of their
mind gets stuck in that moment and that
part the part of that part of their mind
will arise and fall over time so the
second thing that happens is people have
avoidance right so now our brain our
brain remember our bra brain is designed
to help us and Keep Us Alive so for
example if I almost drown in a lake I
will anytime I see a body of water I
will get scared and my brain will tell
me Don't Go Near The Water Don't Go Near
The Water Don't Go Near The Water right
and you'll understand this if you've
played video games especially
multiplayer video games where you play a
video game once and then you have a
really bad game because your teammates
are feeding and then your brain is like
never again never again never again and
the thought of playing the game makes
you hyperventilate in in nauseous which
is why most people play multiplayer
games for about 5 to 10 hours over the
course of their lifetime because they
get so traumatized that they never come
back right same thing you all should be
familiar with that
phenomenon so it'd be interesting I
wonder if we could
explore the mechanism through which
people keep going back to video games
that are consistently traumatic as a way
to desensitize people with PTSD and
actually get them to re-engage in life
that's really interesting I never
thought about that for but I actually
wonder why we don't why are video games
so traumatic but we keep going back
that's really
interesting anyway conversation for a
different day so in PTSD you have a solo
event you have reexperiencing of it you
have avoidance of whatever it is so
people will avoid getting into a car
again and the third thing that you have is
is
hyperarousal so what happens in our
brain in our in our phys physiology is
that we wire differently so I don't know
if this kind of makes sense but like you
know if I get attacked by something my
brain will be more sensitive to
detecting it in the
future and I will be more
um I will be like my response to that
stimulus will be a lot more robust so
let's say I get attacked by a dog on the
street the next time I see a dog first
of all my brain will be able to pick out
dogs out of a field of people if I'm
walking down the street and there's like
a 100 people in the park across the
street my brain will notice if there's a
single dog and it'll raise that to my
awareness and then the moment that I see
a dog my my physiology will activate it
will go back to like being attacked so
I'll see a rush of adrenaline and
cortisol so these are the features of
PTSD basically I I'm a normal person I
have a traumatic event and then these
three things
activate now then what happened is
people noticed that like okay so this is
a fundamentally different picture from
when we have complex PTSD which is
consistent trauma over
time so what happens when you have let's
say a teenager living at home who has an
emotionally and physically abusive
parent so this is the kind of thing where
where
like you know it's not a single event
this is the kind of thing where it's not
like uh you know our our body and and
brain are are just adapting over the
course of one day this is a chronic form
of abuse or trauma that results in a far
larger scale change to our sense of self
even so what we
see is um in in complex PTSD we have a
cluster of three symptoms which are
referred to as a disorganized self okay
so this involves first of all emotional
disre ation a loss of your sense of
identity and a difficulty with
relationships now you can see features
of these things in regular
PTSD let's actually start
disturbances in
self-organization okay so let's take a look
chat all right so here is a
person okay and if they have one
traumatic event but they are relatively well
well
formed so what this means is they have
relatively normal life this results or
can result in PTS SD and this has reexperiencing
um avoid oh
oh
avoidance and hyperarousal and we'll
we'll get into all these okay now let's
say that the C trauma is
chronic so then what happens is that
this person is not usually well formed
disturbances in self
organization so if you kind of look at
this this so those the way I understand
it if you have PTSD PTSD is happening to
you this is an adaptation but you are
sort of separate from the traumatic
event when the trauma is is more
constant and when it happens earlier so
we'll get to this in a second in a
little bit more detail it changes who
you are it changes so it's not something
that happens to you the trauma becomes a
part of you so this is what disturbances
and self-organization mean so what this
disregulation there
is uh disturbances in a the sense of
relationships okay so let's take a quick
think
this so predictors of complex PTSD the
role of trauma characteristics dissoc
dissociation and comorbid
psychopathology so findings largely
confirm earlier research suggesting
that cptsd is a associated with
traumatic events that start earlier in
life and are perpetrated by
acquaintances okay so if we look at
cptsd how is this different what this
means is that remember we're well formed
in PTSD so we have like you know like a
random like if I get mugged by a random
person I can get PTSD but I have no
relationship with that person what leads to
to
cptsd is first of all it happens earlier
so our sense of self is not well-crafted
and furthermore it often times relates
to having someone that is close to us in
life so our sense of self really gets
messed up when our parents are abusive
and that results in this symptom cluster
okay now let's take a second to look at
the original paper on cptsd and by the
way if you guys want to read about
trauma the two references I would
recommend is this one so uh Judith
Herman um was the one who coined the
term and this is an an excellent paper
excellent excellent excellent paper
Okay so uh we're going to just talk
about we're just quickly look at this
the current diagnostic formulation of
PTSD derives primarily from observations
of survivors of relatively circumscribed
traumatic events right so she's saying
basically PTSD is talking about it
relates to people have single events or
like you know circumscribed so they're
they're you can draw a circle around
this formulation fails to capture the
protein seil of prolonged repeated
trauma so now Dr Herman is saying this
is a different thing if the trauma
happens all the time in contrast to a
single traumatic event prolonged
repeated trauma can occur only where the
victim is in a state of captivity under
the control of the perpetrator the
psychological impact of subordination to
coercive control has many common
features uh whether it occurs within the
public sphere of politics or within the
private sphere of sexual and domestic
relations so what what Dr Herman basically
basically
noticed is that we have a group of
people who are put in situations where
they no longer have control over their
life and this has a different kind of of
effect on the psyche right so like if I
get into a car accident that doesn't
fundamentally change like what I'm
capable of doing tomorrow so Dr Herman
was looking a lot at at people like uh
prisoners of War where these people had
was not this isn't just a single you
know military conflict on a single day
this is someone who day after day is
abused abused abused abused abused and
it changes the way that they function So
today we're going to be talking about
that since then things have evolved a
lot by the way the other reference on
trauma that I would highly recommend
we're just going to flash to real quick
um is this so the body keeps the score
is a great book on trauma but I think
you all can get a lot of this summarized
in bestl Vander KK's awesome paper from
dialogues and clinical Neuroscience so
this talks a lot about
stuff this talks a lot about stuff Dr K
2024 okay so now what we're going to do
is dig into what happens in trauma so
when we built this trauma guide what we
basically have so we did a trauma work
Workshop a couple months ago maybe about
a year ago now and the trauma Workshop
was like incredibly successful so like
basically there were 200 spots it sold
out in 24 hours and then we increased it
to 250 spots and so a lot of people were
super confused like hey like are you
going to do this again why aren't you
doing again we realized that the demand
was so high and there's no way that we
can get to everyone that we actually
decided to just build a guide instead
said so we took the trauma Workshop
which was about 8 or 9 hours and we
expanded it to like 15 16 hours of stuff
I think maybe that's last I don't know
what the actual video size is but we
built this guide and the guide also has
meditations and exercises and stuff like
that so today what we're going to go
through is some of the core features
that we explained in the guide obviously
there're in more detail there and we're
going to focus on the features of
complex PTSD so let's try to understand
what happens in
now so we're going to start with the
body so the first thing that happens
when we get traumatized is we get
hyperarousal okay so our nervous system
changes our nervous system changes to be
jittery so what does this mean this
means I'm walking along and I see a oh
God I can't draw a
dog okay I see a dog and normally like
when I see a dog I don't have a robust
physiologic response but once I have
PTSD what starts to happen is even
benign stimuli will trigger a very
strong sympathetic nervous system
response so we have this part of our
nervous system called the autonomic
nervous system or ANS and the autonomic
nervous system is divided into the
sympathetic nervous system and the
parasympathetic nervous system
okay so the sympathetic nervous system
governs fight or
flight the parasympathetic nervous
system governs rest and digest and the
simplest way to understand that is when
I was in college I used to talk to my
friends we used to have this phrase
called being
owned and it's like I just ate this
gigantic sandwich I am now owned I can't
do anything I am gg gg and there are
other times before you eat a gigantic
sandwich where you feel active you feel
energetic you feel you know you feel
like optimistic about the future
whatever so our body has periods of
activity and then it has periods of rest
and digest so I I don't know if you guys
like H you know after you have a meal
what happens is our parasympathetic
nervous system
activates so when the parasympathetic
nervous system activates and it's
triggered by things like food in your
stomach and then our body sends so our
stomach sends signals to our brain
that's like hey we've got a bunch of
food coming in
we we need to divert blood flow from our
skeletal muscles like our arms and our
legs and our brain to our digestive
system our liver needs blood our GI
system needs blood our stomach needs
blood intestines need blood um you know
our gallbladder needs blood this is
where we need all of our blood flow so
we'll feel sleepy we'll feel like
sitting around we'll digest things and
then there are other times where like
when I'm walking down the street and I
get attacked by a you know like a a
Thief so if someone's trying to mug me
then my Paras my sympathetic nervous
system will activate I'll get a surge of
adrenaline and cortisol and then I will
fight or I will run away now if we look
at diseases like anxiety disorders or
panic attacks what we see is that in
these disorders we have a
hyperactivation of the sympathetic
nervous system in our society
today we have a very high stress State
and the reason for that
is that generally speaking the
sympathetic nervous system was something
that was supposed to turn on and off
right so this evolved in like deer so if
you think about a deer like a deer
doesn't worry about paying mortgage at
the end of the month they don't worry
about GPA they don't worry about being
alone for the rest of their life the
deer has like is basically chilling and
then responds to its environment if it
sees like a wolf it runs away and then
it kind of Cs down so in most animals if
we look at a 30-day period they may have
an activation of sympathetic nervous
system system here or here oh I see a
deer that I'm sexually attracted to so I
get a spike of it what happens in human
beings is we get prolonged activation
because if I have a test in two weeks I
don't stress about that in two weeks I
start stressing today and I stay
stressed so hyperarousal is basically
the same thing it is a a elevated
triggering of our sympathetic nervous
system so it's not chronic it just means
that so here here's the way that I would
put it so here's a normal human being
and let's say that I need a danger
signal that is this high so if my danger
point actually let's do this way so
let's say here's our stress
response I'm going to redo this chat
because this is done wrongly and here's
our danger so let's say danger level one
danger level 10 danger level 10 is like
there's a tornado flying towards me
level one
is I don't know there's like
a someone rings the doorbell let's say
so normally what happens is we need like
a danger level of seven so as we go over
here as we get a danger level of seven
then we see an increase in the stress
response so this is like for a normal
human being when you have PTSD what we
tend to find is that a danger level of
four is sufficient to trigger a stress
response so our threshold to trigger the
sympathetic nervous system goes way down
it is easy for us to get
triggered right and we use this term so
much in in common language nowadays like
this triggers me this triggers me this
triggers me right it's it's and the
things that we say trigger us I mean all
kinds of stuff can trigger us but
usually what people are referring to is
that a very small dose of
exposure will lead to a robust or disproportionate
disproportionate
response so this is the first feature
this by the way is very physiologic so
has nothing to do do with your mind or
your feelings or stuff I that's not true
but it has a lot to do with that but
this is like at the level of biology
okay so the second thing that we see um
okay now hyperarousal will result in
things like avoidance we'll kind of get
to those in a little bit but now what
we're going to talk about is the second
level that we're going to focus on is
emotions so the other thing that we see
in in PTSD is that in complex PTSD is
that people have a tendency to
dissociate so we've explained this
concept before but it's really important
so our brain has two hemispheres the
right Hemisphere and the left hemisphere
the right hemisphere governs a lot of
our emotions and the left hemisphere
governs a lot of our analytical
capability now this is an
oversimplification because we also know
that the dorsal dorso parietal area in
the amydala in the limic system there we
have emotional structures on both sides
of our brain so like there's like other
ways that this is not really that
accurate but it sort of
is so what Vander kulk he's a he's a
great trauma researcher I think this was
vander's research what he noticed is
that he basically dug into how people
dissociate so what happens in trauma is
that a very low
threshold of exposure is necessary for a
hyperactive physiologic response so if
diagram I wonder if this is a good way
to explain it
so like I don't know if this makes sense
but like so we can go from here to here
but if we look at trauma what happens in
dissociation is we can't we can't keep
going up right this is like this is the
max this is the top you can't get any
more stress than that this is maximal
maximal
activation of the sympathetic nerve
system you can't just keep going up so
what Vander Kul basically noticed is
that somewhere around here I'm just sort
sort of approximating okay this triggers
dissociation so the stress level is so
high that are are are it's kind of
like you know I can I can put wattage
through a light bulb I can increase the
number of the amount of of Watts that go
through a light bulb and the light bulb
will get brighter and brighter and
brighter until it burns out so this is
what happens in dissociation
dissociation is usually triggered by a
hyperactivation of the sympathetic
nervous system it's like you go all the
way around the world you're heading east
and then suddenly you head up end up
like west of where you started which is
like really weird so this is what
happens in
dissociation is that the the signals are
so overwhelming the emotions are
overwhelming the physiology is
overwhelming that it triggers this
process of dis dissociation now what
happens in dissociation a couple of
different things happen but the key
thing that we're going to focus on is
decreased activity across the Corpus
colossum so our right hemisphere is
where we experience emotions our left
hemisphere is where we experience
analysis so as you all know when I get
emotional my analysis starts getting
messed up and so our brain is like I
can't handle these emotions I can't
handle this is too much activity too
much activity too much activity and
there's even um some studies let me see
this prepped but let me see if I can find
it
yes okay so what happens this is super
cool dude so cool but
weird okay the mechanism underlying this
process is understood as being analogous
to kindling which involves the emergence
of generalized seizures in in response
to repeated Sub sub threshold electrophysiological
electrophysiological
stimulation in PTSD similar to the
kindling of seizures the progressive
augmentation and amplification of
symptoms occurs over time possibly as
the result of neural circuitry
associated with emotional memory
response becoming increasingly reactive
and also expanding into neighboring
neural circuits so I know that that
probably doesn't make a whole lot of
sense to youall but let's explain what's
going on so basically what happens in
PTSD is we almost get something like
seizures right it's not really a seizure
but what happens is that there's an
activity so if you think about what a
seizure is a seizure is when you have
normally we have controlled electrical
activity so neuron turns on second
neuron turns on first neuron turns off
second neuron turns off this is how it
works right so it's like I'm sending a
signal and it's goes from here to there
and then we're done so in a seizure what
happens is we have unreg ated electrical
activity across the brain so everyone is
just activating each other and
activating each other and activating
each other so what people have noticed
in PTSD is there is a similar thing
going on where we have this feeding and
unregulated upswing of whatever Badness
is going on so we have panic attacks we
have reexperiencing we have flashbacks
we feel overwhelmed we feel triggered
and then much like a seizure so after
you after you have a seizure people have
this thing called a postal state where
they're not quite comos they're like
sort of semiconscious because their
brain just shuts
off and so the same thing happens in in
PTSD okay or in trauma is that you have
this overactivation and then the brain
is like enough is enough and then we
dissociate we just completely unplug now
what happens in dissociation is that we
have decreased activity across the
Corpus colossum so the emotional center
of our brain which is going absolutely
Haywire the emotional hemisphere which
is going absolutely Haywire the left
side of our brain is like enough is
enough we can't handle this cut off all
contact with the right side of the brain
then we dissociate so what this what
this feels like is you can watch
terrible things happening
dispassionately to yourself the logical
part of your brain is like this is
happening now I'm getting now this
person is hurting me now they're hurting
me more now they're hurting me more this
is painful period there's no emotional
connection to this experience
okay so once we dissociate once this
this process happens and and this is
where I think Vander Co coined this term
and apologies to the researchers who
coined it if I'm misattributing this we
call this process hemispheric
lateralization now this creates all
kinds of problems because once we
disconnect from our emotions we have all
kinds of challenges okay so if we look
emotion so emotions do a couple of
things emotions give us
motivation right so let me give you yall
an example of how they give us
information so if I walk into a room and
everyone is laughing and then they
suddenly go quiet and look at me I feel
weird right I feel uncomfortable so like
what really happened like my logical
brain doesn't know but my emotional
brain is like giving me
information when someone calls and
cancels on you for the third time and
you feel angry your brain is telling you
something okay second thing is emotions
give us
motivation so what we find is that when
when people struggle with trauma and
this is the video that we're going to
this so right so like the paralysis of
initiative of chronic trauma combines
with the apathy and helplessness of
depression so what Dr Herman
noticed was that when when people have
been traumatized they become like
listless like these veterans come back
from their P camps and they don't feel
like doing anything they just kind of
sit around they kind of exist they have
no Drive they have no passion and if we
look at like where does drive and
passion come from it comes from our
emotions right well like I'm not going
to stand for this anymore I want to go
achieve something I want to be the best
I want to do better I want to be free I
want to relax these are all emotional
things the whole problem that a lot of
people see in our generation we're
talking like Millennials gen Z gen Alpha
is that we're told that we should do a
certain thing so our logical brain is
like should study for this test instead
of playing a video game but my emotional
brain is not motivated to do it I'm
motivated to do something else so
emotions are a big part of motivation
and when we disconnect from our em
emotions we lose information and then we
also lose
motivation but there's more at
play it turns out that when we lose our emotions
emotions
okay we also lose our sense of identity
now the question is why so let's
understand what your identity
is so identity is formed through
stringing together emotional
events so if I ask someone who thinks
that they are a loser and I say what
makes you a loser let's say there's
someone who's been who's 25 years old so
they've been on this Earth for like
8,000 days okay
yeah so like way more than 10,000 days
so let's say someone has been on this
Earth for 10,000 days and if I ask them
what makes you a loser they are not
going to look at their average
experience on a day-to-day basis that's
not what makes them a loser 8,000 out of
the 10,000 Days my day was relatively
normal and like nothing good happened
nothing bad happened I was just straight
chilling what makes them a loser is the
emotional moments in their life that
moment that I asked this girl out to a
dance and she laughed in my face and
then told the whole school about it and
then everyone made fun of me for the
week before school ended and so seven
days out of 10,000 becomes this person's
identity the flip of it is also true in
terms of positive things right so when
someone says when I ask someone hey like
how do you think about yourself then
someone says I'm I'm a really strong
person who's just trying to make do good
in the world and then I asked them like
how did you develop that identity like
what makes you say that tell me about
your life and they will tell you
emotional moments in their life once
again it's not about the 10,000 days
that they've been alive it's not like
that they ate PB and J every single day
like that's not a part of their identity
what makes your identity is a string of
emotional experiences this is why people
who like survive cancer like they they
it becomes a part of their identity like
I am a cancer survivor because it's an
emotionally grueling experience right
joining the military
very um you know in my case right so
like I failed out and like those were
very uh powerful emotional experiences
getting into med school like I remember
the day that I I still remember the day
before Thanksgiving I got a call from
the dean of the medical school after
three years of applying saying that hey
I've been accepted and I wanted to call
I've been accepted to med school and I
wanted to call so that you you know
weren't worried and you had like a Happy
Thanksgiving and then I called my dad
and I called my grandmother and it was
like very joyous and ful and things like
that and my you know anyway it was a
very powerful moment for me um we can go
into more detail if youall want but my
point is that if we look at what makes
our sense of identity it is like strings
of emotional experiences this breakup
this marriage the birth of this child
Landing this job you know surviving a
shark attack like like these are the
moments getting this award it's
emotional experiences that create our
sense of identity so the moment that you
start dissociating you lose your sense
of identity then you're simply existing
you're not
living so what we see in complex PTSD is
disturbances of self-organization and it
starts with emotional disregulation so
when your emotions are disregulated when
you can't control them you can't really
make sense of the world right so like
there are times where your emotions get
out of control and then you end up
triggering dis iation so now it's like
hyperactive emotion followed by
dissociation there's no way to make
sense of that it's just like you get
it's like someone is like it's there's a
difference between like painting a
painting and taking a bucket of paint
throwing it on a canvas and then burning
the canvas this is the best analogy that
I can come up with in this moment of the
difference between emotional
disregulation and disorganization
there's no order to it it's just
emotions out of whack followed by
unplugging the whole experience
so when we have this process then we
lose our sense of identity and this is
what we see in in cptsd so there's if we
look at uh diseases like or diagnoses
like borderline personality disorder or
narcissistic personality
disorder what we find in this these
diagnoses is a disturbed sense of self
so in someone with BPD they do not have
a stable sense of self so what does this
mean so what this means is
that if someone if I'm walking down the
street and someone insults me and says
hey Dr K you're bad at
games they opinion of me whatever it is
or I'm great at games they're saying I'm
the best human being on the planet and
I'm so good at video games whatever
their opinion of me is their opinion
exists out here and my opinion of me
exists in here and as they say one thing
and I say another thing these two things
conflict so in if enough people say this
to me then my sense of self will change
so if you have like this entitled little
prick of a
kid how do they become entitled because
too many times their parents or the
people around them are telling them over
and over they're getting signals from
the outside world you can do whatever
you want you can do whatever you want
you can do whatever you want so you internalize
internalize
this and on the flip side if you get
told the opposite if you have someone
who has low self-esteem because they're
told you're a piece of you're a
piece of you're a piece of
then that becomes internalized so you
have a stable sense of self and then you
have the outside world's opinion of you
so what happens in in borderline
personality disorder is that their
stable sense of self disappears it's not
stably high or stably low so remember
that people like who have let's say a
mood disorder like major depressive
disorder they may have a stably low
sense of self but in BPD the sense of
self is absent so what that sort of mean
Not absent but it's it's not well formed
so what that sort of means is if people
are treating me well I feel great I am a
good person if people are treating me
well and if they're treating me poorly
then I'm a shitty
person this is an unstable sense of self
and now if you sort of think a little
bit about complex PTSD PTSD and
BPD so this is kind of
where you know we're going to I'm going
to try to explain this a little bit more
clearly so we know that if you have BPD
you have a
unstable sense of self which by the way
if youall haven't seen our video on on
BPD apparently it's really good so like
I was just like someone told me recently
that has a ton of views and we've gotten
really positive feedback about it so so
watch it we've got PTSD over here with our
our arousal
arousal
vigilance and
avoidance and then we have
cptsd which is these Plus plus this DSO
which is Disturbed
disregulation left out an S there but GG
disregulation identity
issues and relationship issues and we'll
get to relationships in a bit so what we
kind of see is that like BPD has these two
two
but BPD doesn't have these so BPD so now
like this is really important to
understand C cptsd is this plus this BPD
is just this without this and then maybe
some additional stuff does that make
sense so we know that
trauma can cause this if it's one time
if it's chronic causes this and if it's
chronic causes
this but it depending on the nature of
the trauma and the fre fre quency and
your genetics and and stuff like that
like it it kind of changes the
manifestation so the reason I think this
lecture is super important is because I
am seeing this as its own independent
set of cluster the cluster of symptoms
grow in the population more and more
problem are more and more people are
having problems with this without
necessarily this or
this okay so what happens in in cpts is
identity which then results in all kinds
of problems okay so the first thing is
in BPD you know what the way that people
feel about me determines the way that I
feel about myself so there's no
persistent sense of self to fight
against other people's opinions right if
I'm confident in here people can bully
me and I can fight back but in BPD they
can't do that and in cptsd they can't do
that because this is not well formed the
reason it's not well formed is because
we don't we're so emotionally
disregulated that we do not lay down a
foundation of of who we are this all
also creates all kinds of other problems
so in cptsd and in
BPD we see that there's a lot of
impulsivity so why is there impulsivity
so on the one hand there's paralysis of
initiation so people have difficulty
getting things started that's the video
that we're going to watch at the end of the Deep dive today by the way okay so
the Deep dive today by the way okay so we're going to teach all this because so
we're going to teach all this because so this is like half of our community
this is like half of our community struggles with this I have trouble
struggles with this I have trouble getting started and it's so cool that
getting started and it's so cool that the research on trauma helps us
the research on trauma helps us understand why your brain has difficulty
understand why your brain has difficulty getting
getting started so we have difficulty getting
started so we have difficulty getting started and then we also have
started and then we also have impulsivity very common in complex PTSD
impulsivity very common in complex PTSD and the question is why
and the question is why so impulsive
so impulsive is the desire to do something for a
is the desire to do something for a little
little while right so it's like I'm impulsive
while right so it's like I'm impulsive so impulsive is not in action it is
so impulsive is not in action it is temporary action it is sudden
temporary action it is sudden action and so what what we see a lot is
action and so what what we see a lot is people have difficulty with follow
people have difficulty with follow through right I can't stay
through right I can't stay consistent why so if you look at where
consistent why so if you look at where consistency comes from consistency comes
consistency comes from consistency comes from two places the environment outside
from two places the environment outside you if you have an environment that is
you if you have an environment that is structured then you will be consistent
structured then you will be consistent right so like let's say you're in
right so like let's say you're in prison and like I used to have patients
prison and like I used to have patients who would tell me oh yeah I had such big
who would tell me oh yeah I had such big problems with insomnia and I was like
problems with insomnia and I was like what worked for you and he was like
what worked for you and he was like going to prison I don't have insomnia
going to prison I don't have insomnia anymore and I was like why not and he's
anymore and I was like why not and he's like well I have no choice I have no
like well I have no choice I have no cell phone I have to go to sleep at the
cell phone I have to go to sleep at the same time I've been here for 3 years for
same time I've been here for 3 years for 365 days for 3 years in a row I've gone
365 days for 3 years in a row I've gone to sleep at the same time and I wake up
to sleep at the same time and I wake up at the same time like I have no
at the same time like I have no choice but if we do not have a horribly
choice but if we do not have a horribly structured life then our consistency
structured life then our consistency comes from our sense of
comes from our sense of identity right why do you go to the gym
identity right why do you go to the gym every day because I want to be in shape
every day because I want to be in shape I want to be healthy I enjoy it why do
I want to be healthy I enjoy it why do you play games every day I enjoy them
you play games every day I enjoy them why do you play games every day I don't
why do you play games every day I don't know I hate them so your sense of self
know I hate them so your sense of self is what gives you a Drive in a direction
is what gives you a Drive in a direction over time so I worked with a I've worked
over time so I worked with a I've worked with a couple but I'm thinking about one
with a couple but I'm thinking about one Olympic Athlete many years ago and so
Olympic Athlete many years ago and so like when I talked to this person you
like when I talked to this person you know like how did you I was s curious I
know like how did you I was s curious I was like this the first person I worked
was like this the first person I worked with who was an Olympic Athlete I was
with who was an Olympic Athlete I was like how did you become an Olympic
like how did you become an Olympic Athlete like tell me about that like
Athlete like tell me about that like what's that like and it's like a very
what's that like and it's like a very strong sense of self that drives you
strong sense of self that drives you forward so that when there are setbacks
forward so that when there are setbacks when RNG happens that strong sense of
when RNG happens that strong sense of self keeps you focused on the task at
self keeps you focused on the task at hand
hand so what is impulsivity so impulsivity is
so what is impulsivity so impulsivity is a combination of emotional
a combination of emotional disregulation and a lack of sense of
disregulation and a lack of sense of self so when my emotions arise over here
self so when my emotions arise over here and I don't have a grounding from in
and I don't have a grounding from in here I'll I'll jump over there and as
here I'll I'll jump over there and as the emotion disappears I stop doing it
the emotion disappears I stop doing it because I have no driving force from it
because I have no driving force from it here so another very common feature of
here so another very common feature of cptsd is impulsivity and paradoxically
cptsd is impulsivity and paradoxically paralysis of initiation
paralysis of initiation so why how can those two things go
so why how can those two things go together well like because remember it's
together well like because remember it's not the problem with paralysis of
not the problem with paralysis of initiation is that you want to start
initiation is that you want to start something but you can't bring yourself
something but you can't bring yourself to start it so if if you're someone who
to start it so if if you're someone who really struggles to get things started
really struggles to get things started what you will find is that there's a
what you will find is that there's a correlation between getting things
correlation between getting things started and being
started and being impulsive because in both cases you're
impulsive because in both cases you're not in control in both cases in one case
not in control in both cases in one case you can't drive over your emotions and
you can't drive over your emotions and in the other case your emotions are
in the other case your emotions are taking advantage of you and they're
taking advantage of you and they're making you impulsive and now you do this
making you impulsive and now you do this and now you do that so these are common
and now you do that so these are common features in cptsd and they have to do
features in cptsd and they have to do with a combination of lack of identity
with a combination of lack of identity and emotional
and emotional disregulation now we get to the third
thing which is
relationships so people who have cptsd have difficulty in their relationships
have difficulty in their relationships now this is where we get to some really
now this is where we get to some really cool neuroscience
here okay let's actually take a look at some science to kind of support these
some science to kind of support these points
points okay
okay so um what we find in people who have
so um what we find in people who have cptsd is that they have poor emotional
cptsd is that they have poor emotional awareness so they're not aware when
awareness so they're not aware when they're feeling emotions right this is a
they're feeling emotions right this is a result of like this dissociative pathway
result of like this dissociative pathway or hemispheric
or hemispheric lateralization so an as emotional
lateralization so an as emotional awareness enables increased
awareness enables increased self-reflection and regulation of
self-reflection and regulation of affective states it is often considered
affective states it is often considered a Cornerstone of emotion regulation so
a Cornerstone of emotion regulation so let's understand this for a
let's understand this for a moment see you can't regulate an emotion
moment see you can't regulate an emotion unless you're aware of an
unless you're aware of an emotion and as we dissociate and we're
emotion and as we dissociate and we're not we we numb ourselves to our emotions
not we we numb ourselves to our emotions then we can't regulate them now this is
then we can't regulate them now this is very important to understand when you
very important to understand when you numb yourself to an emotion it doesn't
numb yourself to an emotion it doesn't mean that the emotion is inactive it
mean that the emotion is inactive it just means that you're not aware of its
just means that you're not aware of its activity so what happens when someone
activity so what happens when someone dissociates is that they're they don't
dissociates is that they're they don't feel any emotion but that part of their
feel any emotion but that part of their brain doesn't completely shut off it is
brain doesn't completely shut off it is still active we're just not aware of it
still active we're just not aware of it so people who struggle with
so people who struggle with cptsd will be less emotionally aware at
cptsd will be less emotionally aware at some times and also paradoxically hyper
some times and also paradoxically hyper emotionally aware at other times okay so
emotionally aware at other times okay so we're not going to go into the
we're not going to go into the neurobiology of emotional selfawareness
neurobiology of emotional selfawareness I think that's a bit too detailed but
I think that's a bit too detailed but let's talk about this okay the
let's talk about this okay the neurocircuitry underlying emotional
neurocircuitry underlying emotional numbing in
numbing in PTSD so increased emotional numbing
PTSD so increased emotional numbing symptoms predicted decreased brain
symptoms predicted decreased brain activation within the dorsomedial
activation within the dorsomedial prefrontal cortex during imagery of both
prefrontal cortex during imagery of both positive and negative social scripts
positive and negative social scripts consistent with the role of dorsomedial
consistent with the role of dorsomedial prefrontal Cortex in higher order
prefrontal Cortex in higher order reflective and metacognitive aspects of
reflective and metacognitive aspects of of emotional functioning
of emotional functioning um so we'll explain what that means in a
um so we'll explain what that means in a second I just want to read this too so
second I just want to read this too so uh the developmental the development of
uh the developmental the development of neural circuitry
neural circuitry facilitating May therefore be disturbed
facilitating May therefore be disturbed in PC PTSD leading to the difficulties
in PC PTSD leading to the difficulties these individuals often have in
these individuals often have in reflecting on interpreting and acting in
reflecting on interpreting and acting in accordance with emotion a patient
accordance with emotion a patient suffering from PTSD related to prolonged
suffering from PTSD related to prolonged childhood abuse summarized feelings of
childhood abuse summarized feelings of emotional numbing in the following
emotional numbing in the following statement it's like a blank I think
statement it's like a blank I think about my kids and I feel nothing for
about my kids and I feel nothing for them I'll be sitting there feeling
them I'll be sitting there feeling confused and numb and I wonder what I'm
confused and numb and I wonder what I'm supposed to be feeling it's like dead
supposed to be feeling it's like dead space and when that happens I have
space and when that happens I have trouble using words finding my words and
trouble using words finding my words and I can't
I can't talk so let's understand how you can
talk so let's understand how you can have
have numbness and feel emotionally
numbness and feel emotionally disregulated this is what we mean by
disregulated this is what we mean by disregulated disregulation doesn't just
disregulated disregulation doesn't just mean hyper action it also hyperactivity
mean hyper action it also hyperactivity it also means low levels of activity and
it also means low levels of activity and high levels of activity at the same time
high levels of activity at the same time and this is where the Neuroscience
and this is where the Neuroscience becomes
becomes important so as we look at the
important so as we look at the Neuroscience of cptsd versus PTSD we
Neuroscience of cptsd versus PTSD we find that there's actually different
find that there's actually different places that emotions come from in the
places that emotions come from in the brain
brain and it turns out that the
and it turns out that the cptsd affects different regions okay so
cptsd affects different regions okay so now we're going to get into the
now we're going to get into the Neuroscience so we have our amydala and
Neuroscience so we have our amydala and then we have this
dorsomedial prefrontal cortex now remember was we looked at
cortex now remember was we looked at this paper we saw that decreased
this paper we saw that decreased activation within the dorsal medial
activation within the dorsal medial prefrontal cortex okay so this is like a
prefrontal cortex okay so this is like a different region so most of the time
different region so most of the time when we talk about
when we talk about emotions what most people especially pop
emotions what most people especially pop neuroscientists like
neuroscientists like myself will talk about is the amydala
myself will talk about is the amydala this is the fear Center the survival
this is the fear Center the survival center the anxiety center of the brain
center the anxiety center of the brain fear
fear anxiety
anxiety survival and what we find in people with
survival and what we find in people with with PTSD is that this is hyperactive so
with PTSD is that this is hyperactive so like think about how this is okay
like think about how this is okay I want you to think about this
I want you to think about this this is so pardon my
this is so pardon my language so here we
language so here we have presumably a man or woman I'm not
have presumably a man or woman I'm not sure who is emotionally disregulated so
sure who is emotionally disregulated so has like panic attacks and stuff like
has like panic attacks and stuff like that has hyperarousal and then when they
that has hyperarousal and then when they look at their kids they feel confused
look at their kids they feel confused and numb so like this is like this is
and numb so like this is like this is not fair so we feel confused and numb to
not fair so we feel confused and numb to our positive emotions but we have a
our positive emotions but we have a hyperactivity of our negative emotions
hyperactivity of our negative emotions like how is that fair panic and anxiety
like how is that fair panic and anxiety and fear we can feel normally or even at
and fear we can feel normally or even at hyperactive levels because remember in
hyperactive levels because remember in PTSD we're we're
PTSD we're we're aroused but love and things like that I
aroused but love and things like that I can't feel so this is something very
can't feel so this is something very important to understand the amydala is
important to understand the amydala is where we feel feel fear and anxiety in
where we feel feel fear and anxiety in survival stuff but a lot of our positive
survival stuff but a lot of our positive emotions a lot of our other emotions
emotions a lot of our other emotions come from other parts of the brain like
come from other parts of the brain like the dorsal medial prefrontal
the dorsal medial prefrontal cortex and so what we see in complex
cortex and so what we see in complex PTSD is specifically a
PTSD is specifically a deactivation of those parts of the brain
deactivation of those parts of the brain we see a deactivation of the positive
we see a deactivation of the positive emotional circuits of the brain which
emotional circuits of the brain which are actually is actually the dorsal
are actually is actually the dorsal medial prefrontal
medial prefrontal cortex while we see a hyperactivation of
cortex while we see a hyperactivation of the amydala which is our fear center now
the amydala which is our fear center now the reason I think this is important is
the reason I think this is important is I see this in a lot of people who do not
I see this in a lot of people who do not have
have cptsd I see a hyperactivation of our
cptsd I see a hyperactivation of our fear for the future the world is going
fear for the future the world is going to hell I'm screwed I'm going to be
to hell I'm screwed I'm going to be alone today is Friday so we have a bunch
alone today is Friday so we have a bunch of posts on our subreddit about how
of posts on our subreddit about how everyone is
everyone is hopeless and yet they have a
hopeless and yet they have a hyperactivation of their negative
hyperactivation of their negative emotions but a hypoactivation of their
emotions but a hypoactivation of their positive emotions how is this Fair it's
positive emotions how is this Fair it's not now we understand the
not now we understand the neuroscientific
neuroscientific mechanism right it's because not all
mechanism right it's because not all emotions come from the same
emotions come from the same place and what we see in P cptsd is
place and what we see in P cptsd is hypoactivation of the dorsomedial part
hypoactivation of the dorsomedial part of the brain so this is where look
of the brain so this is where look positive emotion dorsal medial
positive emotion dorsal medial prefrontal
prefrontal cortex negative emotion was also kind of
cortex negative emotion was also kind of in the same place anyway it's kind of
in the same place anyway it's kind of weird the amydala I think is usually
weird the amydala I think is usually over
over here but yeah it's also weird because
here but yeah it's also weird because this person's backwards anyway so we may
this person's backwards anyway so we may experience negative emotion there it's
experience negative emotion there it's complicated so now what we're going to
complicated so now what we're going to do is talk a little bit uh okay so
do is talk a little bit uh okay so that's that's emotional
that's that's emotional disregulation
disregulation okay um let now let's talk a little bit
okay um let now let's talk a little bit about self-awareness and identity okay
about self-awareness and identity okay so specifically during traumatic memory
so specifically during traumatic memory recall increasing severity of trait
recall increasing severity of trait Alexia we talk a lot about Alexia which
Alexia we talk a lot about Alexia which is emotional color blindness was
is emotional color blindness was associated with reduced activity within
associated with reduced activity within the vent medial prefrontal cortex and
the vent medial prefrontal cortex and interior
interior insula okay we talked about
insula okay we talked about kinling
kinling um so I think we already covered
um so I think we already covered this okay now let's talk about identity
this okay now let's talk about identity right so remember we said that this
right so remember we said that this disturbs our sense of identity
disturbs our sense of identity individuals with PTSD often exhibit
individuals with PTSD often exhibit disturbances in self-referential
disturbances in self-referential processing uh Johnson at Al proposed
processing uh Johnson at Al proposed that the ability to reflect upon on ones
that the ability to reflect upon on ones self requires a robust sense of self
self requires a robust sense of self which has been described as a collection
which has been described as a collection of schemata regarding one's abilities
of schemata regarding one's abilities traits and attitudes that guides our
traits and attitudes that guides our behaviors choices and social
behaviors choices and social interactions so we kind of already
interactions so we kind of already explained this but does this make sense
explained this but does this make sense like the sense of self is a collection
like the sense of self is a collection of ideas they use schemata because it's
of ideas they use schemata because it's not quite an idea about your abilities
not quite an idea about your abilities your traits and your attitudes I like
your traits and your attitudes I like tacos I don't like hot dogs I'm good at
tacos I don't like hot dogs I'm good at this game I'm bad at studying I'm a I'm
this game I'm bad at studying I'm a I'm a dog person I'm a cat person I'm a I'm
a dog person I'm a cat person I'm a I'm a night owl I'm a morning Lark like we
a night owl I'm a morning Lark like we have like this kind of stuff and then
have like this kind of stuff and then also when we have these kinds of beliefs
also when we have these kinds of beliefs about oursel they affect our behaviors
about oursel they affect our behaviors choices and social
choices and social interactions right so if I'm if I am a
interactions right so if I'm if I am a gamer if I identify as a gamer I'm more
gamer if I identify as a gamer I'm more likely to play more video
likely to play more video games
games so now let's understand the mechanism
so now let's understand the mechanism through which people with CP TSD have
through which people with CP TSD have difficulty doing
difficulty doing this neuroimaging studies suggest that
this neuroimaging studies suggest that self-referential processing is partly
self-referential processing is partly mediated by via cortical midline
mediated by via cortical midline structures we're going to focus on the
structures we're going to focus on the anterior singulate okay and the temporal
anterior singulate okay and the temporal pulse temporal prial Junction and
pulse temporal prial Junction and temporal
temporal pulse see if that
pulse see if that no all
no all right so this is
right so this is where basically what happens is the
where basically what happens is the parts of our brain that that give us our
parts of our brain that that give us our sense of self which is the anterior
sense of self which is the anterior singulate the default mode Network and
singulate the default mode Network and our parietal temporo parietal regions of
our parietal temporo parietal regions of the brain these parts are impaired in
the brain these parts are impaired in cptsd so our sense of self does not
cptsd so our sense of self does not function quite the same way now if you
function quite the same way now if you all remember at the very beginning I
all remember at the very beginning I said if you electrically stimulate the
said if you electrically stimulate the temporoparietal junction this is the not
temporoparietal junction this is the not the junction but those regions of the
the junction but those regions of the brain are impaired in cptsd if I
brain are impaired in cptsd if I electrically stimulate the Pro parietal
electrically stimulate the Pro parietal Junction I will trigger an outof Body
Junction I will trigger an outof Body Experience so what is an outof body
Experience so what is an outof body experience that an outof body experience
experience that an outof body experience is an experience of my
is an experience of my Consciousness existing outside of my
Consciousness existing outside of my body right so this is the part of the
body right so this is the part of the brain that governs like my experience of
brain that governs like my experience of self and if it is impaired in some way
self and if it is impaired in some way my sense of identity will not form well
my sense of identity will not form well if my sense of identity does not form
if my sense of identity does not form well that'll result in problems in terms
well that'll result in problems in terms of behaviors the choices that I make
of behaviors the choices that I make Etc the last Dimension that we're going
Etc the last Dimension that we're going to talk
to talk about is
about is relationships so in order to have a
relationships so in order to have a relationship we must have a sense of
relationship we must have a sense of identity because a relationship is
identity because a relationship is something between me and you there's a
something between me and you there's a chunk of you in there and there's a
chunk of you in there and there's a chunk of me in there but if my sense of
chunk of me in there but if my sense of identity is Disturbed my capacity to
identity is Disturbed my capacity to have a relationship with another human
have a relationship with another human being is impaired
being is impaired practically what this looks like is
practically what this looks like is something very similar to BPD where when
something very similar to BPD where when you have cptsd and you try to have a
you have cptsd and you try to have a relationship with someone else like you
relationship with someone else like you don't add a whole lot to the equation
don't add a whole lot to the equation I'm not saying that you don't factually
I'm not saying that you don't factually add value to the relationship what I'm
add value to the relationship what I'm saying is that your personality does not
saying is that your personality does not enter and shape the relationship in the
enter and shape the relationship in the same way that someone who's well formed
same way that someone who's well formed has a well formed sense of identity does
has a well formed sense of identity does you know you sometimes what this means
you know you sometimes what this means is that you become a doormat you become
is that you become a doormat you become a people pleaser you don't really have a
a people pleaser you don't really have a whole lot of strong opinions you become
whole lot of strong opinions you become a chameleon these are all three
a chameleon these are all three different variants of how cptsd shapes
different variants of how cptsd shapes our
our relationships in BPD like sometimes like
relationships in BPD like sometimes like so I I've worked with some women who
so I I've worked with some women who have BPD
have BPD and the people that they date feel like
and the people that they date feel like they found the perfect partner for the
they found the perfect partner for the first couple of weeks because whatever
first couple of weeks because whatever their partner is into they're into and
their partner is into they're into and like I've had friends male friends who
like I've had friends male friends who have who've probably dated women with
have who've probably dated women with BPD and I I've heard what the way that
BPD and I I've heard what the way that they describe them they'll say like oh
they describe them they'll say like oh my God this person is amazing she's into
my God this person is amazing she's into like anime and she's into this and she
like anime and she's into this and she likes she hates wine and she loves beer
likes she hates wine and she loves beer she likes she loves matcha but she hates
she likes she loves matcha but she hates coffee she's like perfect she's like a
coffee she's like perfect she's like a female version of me and she's
female version of me and she's hot and so they'll say things like this
hot and so they'll say things like this and the gender roles can be reversed too
and the gender roles can be reversed too absolutely but what happens is when when
absolutely but what happens is when when we don't have a sense sense of self it
we don't have a sense sense of self it becomes hard to have a relationship
becomes hard to have a relationship because we absorb the other person's
because we absorb the other person's things so in BPD it's more about
things so in BPD it's more about absorption of the other person in cptsd
absorption of the other person in cptsd it doesn't have to be that way we can
it doesn't have to be that way we can see doormat we can see people pleaser
see doormat we can see people pleaser because I don't have a sense of
because I don't have a sense of identity and once we have these doormat
identity and once we have these doormat and people pleaser Tendencies we also
and people pleaser Tendencies we also open ourselves up for more toxicity in
open ourselves up for more toxicity in relationships because I don't advocate
relationships because I don't advocate for
for myself right because I you're better
myself right because I you're better than I am I don't have a sense when you
than I am I don't have a sense when you treat me like crap I do not have
treat me like crap I do not have something in here that instinctively
something in here that instinctively Rebels so if you have a well-formed
Rebels so if you have a well-formed sense of
sense of identity and someone treats you like
identity and someone treats you like crap you recognize that you deserve
crap you recognize that you deserve better and that idea that you deserve
better and that idea that you deserve better where do that idea comes from it
better where do that idea comes from it comes from a sense of self it when you
comes from a sense of self it when you just think about the mechanics of this
just think about the mechanics of this okay think about the language that I'm
okay think about the language that I'm using when I say I deserve better there
using when I say I deserve better there is a stable
is a stable conception of what I this quantity of I
conception of what I this quantity of I deserves I don't deserve $10 million I
deserves I don't deserve $10 million I don't deserve zero doar I deserve
don't deserve zero doar I deserve $100 that is based on your
$100 that is based on your identity now in the case of narcissism
identity now in the case of narcissism that identity is too
that identity is too high so what that means is if anyone
high so what that means is if anyone remember this root of narcissism is
remember this root of narcissism is actually insecurity so if anyone gives
actually insecurity so if anyone gives you even 1% less than you deserve you
you even 1% less than you deserve you become prickly like a
become prickly like a porcupine you're like I deserve better
porcupine you're like I deserve better and it's like bro like you got what you
and it's like bro like you got what you deserve this is crazy like I did
deserve this is crazy like I did everything that I could for
everything that I could for you and the opposite is also true where
you and the opposite is also true where when you don't deserve any like when you
when you don't deserve any like when you deserve when you don't have a sense of
deserve when you don't have a sense of self then how can you deserve if you
self then how can you deserve if you have no eye no stable sense of self and
have no eye no stable sense of self and what you
what you deserve so this creates all kinds of
deserve so this creates all kinds of problems in relationships and we see
problems in relationships and we see that in in cptsd right so the dis
that in in cptsd right so the dis disturbances of self-organization result
disturbances of self-organization result in emotional
in emotional disregulation hyperactivity using
disregulation hyperactivity using something like a kindling mechanism
something like a kindling mechanism especially in the negative emotional
especially in the negative emotional regions of the brain where you have this
regions of the brain where you have this sub threshold electrical activity that
sub threshold electrical activity that then activates it's like you're just
then activates it's like you're just going about your day and then suddenly
going about your day and then suddenly you feel intensely sad and you're like
you feel intensely sad and you're like what the right you don't actually
what the right you don't actually think that way because it's normal for
think that way because it's normal for you but people outside of you look at
you but people outside of you look at you and they're like I don't understand
you and they're like I don't understand why this person just gets so upset so
why this person just gets so upset so randomly and they do what they can to
randomly and they do what they can to help and if you know people in your life
help and if you know people in your life who do this right they just go into
who do this right they just go into funks for like very intensely for a day
funks for like very intensely for a day and you're like what's wrong and they're
and you're like what's wrong and they're like I don't know or nothing and then we
like I don't know or nothing and then we if you're if you're like a normal person
if you're if you're like a normal person right I don't mean that in a in a
right I don't mean that in a in a judgmental way I mean that if you have a
judgmental way I mean that if you have a brain that is not developed like this
brain that is not developed like this you look at this and you say tell me
you look at this and you say tell me what's wrong and they say nothing's
what's wrong and they say nothing's wrong and they're crying their
wrong and they're crying their eyes out and you're like what the
eyes out and you're like what the because and and the thing is in their
because and and the thing is in their case it they're right nothing is wrong
case it they're right nothing is wrong this is what's wild about trauma see
this is what's wild about trauma see when you look at someone like that and
when you look at someone like that and you think there must be something wrong
you think there must be something wrong why because in order for you to cry that
why because in order for you to cry that hard you need something that is so
hard you need something that is so powerful that it overcomes your sense of
powerful that it overcomes your sense of self and makes you cry really hard in
self and makes you cry really hard in their case they have a seizure
their case they have a seizure like activity in their amydala that just
like activity in their amydala that just disregulated
a different way the rules that the brain is playing by are different that's
is playing by are different that's what's wrong with you there's nothing
what's wrong with you there's nothing wrong with your personhood the way that
wrong with your personhood the way that your neurons are activating are closer
your neurons are activating are closer to a seizure which is why you have the
to a seizure which is why you have the disrupted emotional regulation and you
disrupted emotional regulation and you just feel things so intensely and it
just feel things so intensely and it comes out of nowhere and it's so
comes out of nowhere and it's so confusing and it's so
debilitating okay and then there's also dorso medial
okay and then there's also dorso medial numbness which results in like not being
numbness which results in like not being able to like do things like feel
able to like do things like feel spontaneous love for your kids and all
spontaneous love for your kids and all that kind of stuff it's all super sad
that kind of stuff it's all super sad and super debilitating cptsd is a really
and super debilitating cptsd is a really bad
bad diagnosis good news is that it can get
diagnosis good news is that it can get very you can get way better right so
very you can get way better right so this is not it's
this is not it's not
not um it's not your
um it's not your destiny so the cool thing and I guess
destiny so the cool thing and I guess we'll get into this now is that we
we'll get into this now is that we actually know we have a sequence of
actually know we have a sequence of things that you can do that will
things that you can do that will sustainably get you better now there are
sustainably get you better now there are a couple of good things about
a couple of good things about treatment the first thing to understand
treatment the first thing to understand is that trauma is an
is that trauma is an adaptation which means that you weren't
adaptation which means that you weren't born this way this is your brain
born this way this is your brain adapting to circumstances which means
adapting to circumstances which means that if your brain adapted once it can
that if your brain adapted once it can adapt again right this is very different
adapt again right this is very different from something like having a genetic you
from something like having a genetic you know a two recessive that result in a
know a two recessive that result in a genetic deficiency in the blueprint of
genetic deficiency in the blueprint of what your body is capable of making
what your body is capable of making there is a problem so until we get to
there is a problem so until we get to Gene replacement therapy like there's
Gene replacement therapy like there's nothing that can be done about that
nothing that can be done about that right like the fundamental Machinery
right like the fundamental Machinery like there's no it's like we're building
like there's no it's like we're building a computer but there's like no place for
a computer but there's like no place for the
the CPU right and then like there's no way
CPU right and then like there's no way to get that computer to work the good
to get that computer to work the good news about trauma is even though it is
news about trauma is even though it is so debilitating even though it it feels
so debilitating even though it it feels like it it screws over every dimension
like it it screws over every dimension of your
of your life the majority of it can get better
life the majority of it can get better because these are all adaptations
because these are all adaptations they're not the core thing they're the
they're not the core thing they're the stuff that you've layered on top so you
stuff that you've layered on top so you can systematically go about changing
can systematically go about changing that okay so how do we change this the
that okay so how do we change this the first thing that we have to do is rewire
first thing that we have to do is rewire our physiology okay so we go through
our physiology okay so we go through this in a more step-by-step process in
this in a more step-by-step process in the guide so a lot of people with trauma
the guide so a lot of people with trauma and Vander kulk is a big advocate of
and Vander kulk is a big advocate of this so he runs this place called the
this so he runs this place called the center of trauma and they do a lot of
center of trauma and they do a lot of yoga so what we tend to find is there
yoga so what we tend to find is there are a couple of key principles the first
are a couple of key principles the first is you have to be comfortable in your
is you have to be comfortable in your own body and mind body practices are
own body and mind body practices are very good at doing this so we what we
very good at doing this so we what we specifically want to do to be
specifically want to do to be comfortable within our own body our body
comfortable within our own body our body has these the sense of we actually have
has these the sense of we actually have six senses okay the six sense the six
six senses okay the six sense the six sense is
sense is not being able to see dead people the
not being able to see dead people the sense is something called
sense is something called proprioception so proprioception is our
proprioception so proprioception is our sense of our body in space so if I like
sense of our body in space so if I like close my eyes and I lift my arm I can
close my eyes and I lift my arm I can tell where my arm is that's technically
tell where my arm is that's technically not the same as touching something right
not the same as touching something right this is like a sense of where my body is
this is like a sense of where my body is and proprioception seems to be really
and proprioception seems to be really good at helping us rewire our physiology
good at helping us rewire our physiology so a lot of studies show that things
so a lot of studies show that things like yoga and taii are very effective
like yoga and taii are very effective for condition that have hyperactivity of
for condition that have hyperactivity of the central nervous system or sorry not
the central nervous system or sorry not Central autonomic nervous system panic
Central autonomic nervous system panic attacks high blood pressure anxiety
attacks high blood pressure anxiety disorders postural orthostatic tartic
disorders postural orthostatic tartic syndrome Mind Body practices are really
syndrome Mind Body practices are really good at this we know that mindbody
good at this we know that mindbody practices recruit things like the vagus
practices recruit things like the vagus nerve which is our our primary
nerve which is our our primary parasympathetic nerve in the body so
parasympathetic nerve in the body so when we meditate our vagus nerve turns
when we meditate our vagus nerve turns on it slows down our heart rate it slows
on it slows down our heart rate it slows down it decreases our blood pressure it
down it decreases our blood pressure it activates our GI system it does all
activates our GI system it does all kinds of good
kinds of good stuff so practically what I describe is
stuff so practically what I describe is what we really want to do is something
what we really want to do is something called autonomic
called autonomic stretch so the best way to so this is
stretch so the best way to so this is important to understand so remember that
important to understand so remember that our nervous system our autonomic nervous
our nervous system our autonomic nervous system has sympathetic and
system has sympathetic and parasympathetic okay actually go back to
parasympathetic okay actually go back to this
this work okay great so I'm going to show you all this okay so let's take a
look okay so our nervous system our autonomic nervous system has sympathetic
autonomic nervous system has sympathetic nervous system and parasympathetic
nervous system and parasympathetic nervous system
nervous system okay so normally what happens is this
okay so normally what happens is this one is active about 50% of the time and
one is active about 50% of the time and this one is active about 50% of the time
this one is active about 50% of the time and anywhere between 45 minutes and 2
and anywhere between 45 minutes and 2 hours
hours is the oscillation between the
is the oscillation between the two so the problem with stress is not
two so the problem with stress is not the stress it's that it's chronic so
the stress it's that it's chronic so when we have chronic strength stress we
when we have chronic strength stress we have 90% activation over here and we
have 90% activation over here and we have 10% activation over here so it
have 10% activation over here so it becomes difficult then what happens is
becomes difficult then what happens is our body gets stuck in this
our body gets stuck in this mode so anytime the body gets stuck it
mode so anytime the body gets stuck it loses flexibility I know it's kind of
loses flexibility I know it's kind of like a silly statement but so in in
like a silly statement but so in in Physical Medicine right so Physical
Physical Medicine right so Physical Medicine and Rehab sometimes we'll have
Medicine and Rehab sometimes we'll have something called a muscle
something called a muscle contracture so muscle contracture is
contracture so muscle contracture is when you hold your your body in a
when you hold your your body in a certain way okay and when you wow that
certain way okay and when you wow that vein looks
vein looks huge sorry distracted by
huge sorry distracted by it's a real pity I don't shoot
it's a real pity I don't shoot heroin cuz that's one hell of a
heroin cuz that's one hell of a pain okay um
so this is why I love streaming like you know when I'm when I'm like teaching at
know when I'm when I'm like teaching at like medical schools like you can't do
like medical schools like you can't do that all right this is why I love
that all right this is why I love teaching here all right so if I hold my
teaching here all right so if I hold my body in a particular posture I will
body in a particular posture I will develop something called a contracture
develop something called a contracture so a muscle can get locked into
so a muscle can get locked into tightness okay so if I'm like sitting at
tightness okay so if I'm like sitting at my computer all day the trapezius will
my computer all day the trapezius will get very tight your scaling muscles will
get very tight your scaling muscles will get very tight your anterior scalings
get very tight your anterior scalings will get super tight if you want to feel
will get super tight if you want to feel how tight your anterior scalings are by
how tight your anterior scalings are by the way this is super cool exercise you
the way this is super cool exercise you can do what I want you to do is tuck
can do what I want you to do is tuck your chin back and turn and what you'll
your chin back and turn and what you'll feel if you just tuck your chin back and
feel if you just tuck your chin back and then turn you'll feel like this super
then turn you'll feel like this super tight muscle over here so when our when
tight muscle over here so when our when our muscles are in a sustained
our muscles are in a sustained contraction they lose flexibility
contraction they lose flexibility so this happens in our nervous system as
so this happens in our nervous system as well they get locked into a sympath a
well they get locked into a sympath a hyperactivation of the sympathetic
hyperactivation of the sympathetic nervous system so what we want to do is
nervous system so what we want to do is increase our autonomic stretch and the
increase our autonomic stretch and the beautiful thing about this is that when
beautiful thing about this is that when when you look at stress okay this is
when you look at stress okay this is fascinating you can meditate to decrease
fascinating you can meditate to decrease stress or you can exercise to decre
stress or you can exercise to decre decrease stress that's weird because
decrease stress that's weird because when you exercise you're not relaxing
when you exercise you're not relaxing you're actually doing the opposite you
you're actually doing the opposite you are activating the par the sympathetic
are activating the par the sympathetic nervous system so the cool thing about
nervous system so the cool thing about autonomic stretch is anytime we
autonomic stretch is anytime we hyperactivate the sympathetic nervous
hyperactivate the sympathetic nervous system we automatically send a signal to
system we automatically send a signal to our body that we are going to rest when
our body that we are going to rest when we are done so if I'm at a chronic state
we are done so if I'm at a chronic state of
is let's say this is the midpoint and let's say this is sympathetic
and let's say this is sympathetic nervous system this is parasympathetic
nervous system this is parasympathetic nervous system so most of us live over
nervous system so most of us live over here but if you are in a chronic stress
here but if you are in a chronic stress state you live over here so how do we
state you live over here so how do we get things back over here one thing we
get things back over here one thing we can do is
can do is meditate meditate brings us
meditate meditate brings us here and then after we're done
here and then after we're done meditating maybe we'll go to there the
meditating maybe we'll go to there the other thing that we can actually do is
other thing that we can actually do is exercise so exercising will actually
exercise so exercising will actually bring us up here but when we get up here
bring us up here but when we get up here right so when you exercise a lot what do
right so when you exercise a lot what do you feel like doing you feel like
you feel like doing you feel like resting so if I run really really hard
resting so if I run really really hard and my CO2 level
and my CO2 level spikes and my O2 level starts to drop as
spikes and my O2 level starts to drop as I'm increasing muscular respiration I
I'm increasing muscular respiration I mean muscular respiration my body is
mean muscular respiration my body is like oh crap we've run out of oxygen now
like oh crap we've run out of oxygen now sit the down and rest so we feel
sit the down and rest so we feel exhausted after exercise we don't feel
exhausted after exercise we don't feel energetic which means that once we hit
energetic which means that once we hit this point this triggers a signal in our
this point this triggers a signal in our body to go back down
body to go back down here and then when we end up we'll end
here and then when we end up we'll end up here now the cool thing is when you
up here now the cool thing is when you do both exercise and meditate you will
do both exercise and meditate you will get here
get here faster and if you do this kind of thing
faster and if you do this kind of thing it will actually improve
it will actually improve your it'll improve your autonomic
your it'll improve your autonomic arousal so it'll help with things like
arousal so it'll help with things like trauma it'll help with things like
trauma it'll help with things like generalized anxiet disorder it'll help
generalized anxiet disorder it'll help with things like panic attacks you can
with things like panic attacks you can do both the key thing is actually
do both the key thing is actually oscillating see if I want to stretch a
oscillating see if I want to stretch a muscle stretching a muscle isn't just
muscle stretching a muscle isn't just doing this stretching a muscle is doing
doing this stretching a muscle is doing this and then doing this and then doing
this and then doing this and then doing this and then doing this this is what
this and then doing this this is what really increases
really increases flexibility okay it's not just going
flexibility okay it's not just going like this and keeping it there this in
like this and keeping it there this in turn will lock the muscle into this
turn will lock the muscle into this configuration so we want to alternate
configuration so we want to alternate between the
between the two so as we rewire that physiology our
two so as we rewire that physiology our hyperarousal will come down second thing
hyperarousal will come down second thing we need to do is reconnect with our
we need to do is reconnect with our emotions now this is where the cool
emotions now this is where the cool thing is that we actually don't have to
thing is that we actually don't have to reconnect with our emotions to reconnect
reconnect with our emotions to reconnect with our emotions okay give me a
with our emotions okay give me a second
second um let me see if I can find
um let's see if I can find I think it's over here hold on you guys can look with
me ah there we go
there we go okay thank God I remember the word that
okay thank God I remember the word that they used okay um
they used okay um [Music]
[Music] and okay so conceptual emotional
and okay so conceptual emotional awareness refers to the the ability to
awareness refers to the the ability to reflect on interpret and make a decision
reflect on interpret and make a decision about an embodied sensation or emotion
about an embodied sensation or emotion okay um so there are a couple of
okay um so there are a couple of different things that we can do to
different things that we can do to increase our
this yeah okay during this phase of treatment patients have to develop an
treatment patients have to develop an awareness and language that helps them
awareness and language that helps them identify bodily Sensations and how
identify bodily Sensations and how different bodily Sensations relate to
different bodily Sensations relate to different emotional experiences for
different emotional experiences for example for one person tension in the
example for one person tension in the jaw in combination with a feeling of
jaw in combination with a feeling of tightness in the throat May correlate
tightness in the throat May correlate with sadness while in another individual
with sadness while in another individual sadness May correlate with tightness in
sadness May correlate with tightness in the stomach and a feeling of heaviness
the stomach and a feeling of heaviness in the chest by developing emotional
in the chest by developing emotional awareness patients can learn to identify
awareness patients can learn to identify precursors blah blah blah blah blah blah
precursors blah blah blah blah blah blah blah okay so there's basically two or
blah okay so there's basically two or three things that we're going to do to
three things that we're going to do to reconnect with our emotions the first is
reconnect with our emotions the first is just be aware of your bodily Sensations
just be aware of your bodily Sensations so remember and this is what's cool
so remember and this is what's cool about the
Neuroscience okay I'm going to try to explain this because this is huge but I
explain this because this is huge but I don't know if I can explain
don't know if I can explain it so if we look at this
it so if we look at this paper okay what this paper tells
paper okay what this paper tells us where's table one is that different
us where's table one is that different parts of our brain are messed up by
parts of our brain are messed up by PTSD come on table one where are you at
PTSD come on table one where are you at table one there we go okay so if we look
table one there we go okay so if we look at table one here are all the things
at table one here are all the things that are affected so medial prefrontal
that are affected so medial prefrontal cortex self
cortex self referential you know um let's look at
referential you know um let's look at the anterior singulate integrates
the anterior singulate integrates cognitive and emotional aspects of
cognitive and emotional aspects of experience right we have all these
experience right we have all these different parts of the
different parts of the brain now the thing is these parts of
brain now the thing is these parts of the brain have these broad functions
the brain have these broad functions right so the the thing to understand
right so the the thing to understand about the brain is we used to think that
about the brain is we used to think that like a particular part of the brain does
like a particular part of the brain does a particular
a particular thing but what I want youall to
thing but what I want youall to understand is that regions of the brain
understand is that regions of the brain are like letters of the
are like letters of the alphabet the way that they connect and
alphabet the way that they connect and combine with each other is actually what
combine with each other is actually what creates a particular phenomenon in our
creates a particular phenomenon in our life so curiosity or love there isn't a
life so curiosity or love there isn't a love Center to the brain a love Center
love Center to the brain a love Center the love Cent the the way we experience
the love Cent the the way we experience love in the brain can just hypothesize
love in the brain can just hypothesize based on this is some medial prefrontal
based on this is some medial prefrontal cortex some anterior singulate
cortex some anterior singulate cortex some
cortex some amygdala and some insula see when we
amygdala and some insula see when we combine
combine self-referential this is me I am in love
self-referential this is me I am in love and there's an emotion emotional aspect
and there's an emotion emotional aspect there's emotional salience what that
there's emotional salience what that means is feeling this means this thing
means is feeling this means this thing what is the significance of the emotion
what is the significance of the emotion I have a sense of me I have this emotion
I have a sense of me I have this emotion I attach a significance to the emotion
I attach a significance to the emotion and then I also have some degree of fear
and then I also have some degree of fear because what if this person doesn't love
because what if this person doesn't love me
me back and then I also have bodily
back and then I also have bodily self-awareness because when they're
self-awareness because when they're around I start to feel changes in my
around I start to feel changes in my body my body changes I ache for you I
body my body changes I ache for you I need your
need your body that's what love is there isn't a
body that's what love is there isn't a part of the brain it is a concert of
part of the brain it is a concert of different parts of the brain interacting
different parts of the brain interacting with each
with each other okay literally like so like if you
other okay literally like so like if you guys have been in love you know what I
guys have been in love you know what I mean like your body aches for someone
mean like your body aches for someone else like think about that from a
else like think about that from a neuroscientific perspective you can't
neuroscientific perspective you can't ache for someone else unless the part of
ache for someone else unless the part of your body that senses your
your body that senses your Sensations is aware of what you feel in
Sensations is aware of what you feel in here is active in some
here is active in some way okay so now we have a problem which
way okay so now we have a problem which is that these parts of the brain are
is that these parts of the brain are shut off in
shut off in trauma
trauma simplification so the cool thing is that
simplification so the cool thing is that in order to reverse this process we do
in order to reverse this process we do not have to fix it we just have to
not have to fix it we just have to awaken the part of the
awaken the part of the brain see if we increase the activity of
brain see if we increase the activity of the brain if we like reawaken our dorsal
the brain if we like reawaken our dorsal medial cortex prefrontal cortex right
medial cortex prefrontal cortex right this where positive emotions come from
this where positive emotions come from all we have to do is activate that in
all we have to do is activate that in some way and once it's on it will start
some way and once it's on it will start to feel other things we see this in
to feel other things we see this in clinical trials and I see it in my
clinical trials and I see it in my clinical practice I'm somewhat
clinical practice I'm somewhat extrapolating here so in clinical trials
extrapolating here so in clinical trials on yoga for trauma just think about this
on yoga for trauma just think about this for a second what the is the
for a second what the is the mechanism it's not just autonomic
mechanism it's not just autonomic nervous system what's happening is we
nervous system what's happening is we are activating this part of the brain
are activating this part of the brain through this yogic practice I can't find
through this yogic practice I can't find the sentence in in this paper but even
the sentence in in this paper but even the paper sort of talks about all we
the paper sort of talks about all we have to do is just activate the part of
have to do is just activate the part of the brain even just increasing your
the brain even just increasing your awareness of emotions and even awareness
awareness of emotions and even awareness of your body you don't have to increase
of your body you don't have to increase awareness of emotions you just increase
awareness of emotions you just increase awareness of the body and you will have
awareness of the body and you will have an increased awareness of emotion why
an increased awareness of emotion why because some part of an emotion is
because some part of an emotion is physical butter flies in the stomach
physical butter flies in the stomach tightness in the
tightness in the throat so you can kind of backend
throat so you can kind of backend emotional awareness through bodily
emotional awareness through bodily awareness then what you can do is by the
awareness then what you can do is by the way I don't know if yall noticed this
way I don't know if yall noticed this but we've been teaching you all this
but we've been teaching you all this crap for years and that wasn't because I
crap for years and that wasn't because I read this paper it's because I sort of
read this paper it's because I sort of found this in my clinical experience
found this in my clinical experience that especially for men accessing their
that especially for men accessing their emotions through their body is very
emotions through their body is very good okay so
good okay so increased autonomic flexibility number
increased autonomic flexibility number one increased awareness of the body
one increased awareness of the body number two third thing is articulate
number two third thing is articulate your emotions physically if you don't if
your emotions physically if you don't if you don't have awareness of them fourth
you don't have awareness of them fourth thing we want to
thing we want to do what's the fourth thing oh yeah
do what's the fourth thing oh yeah articulate our emotions
articulate our emotions actually attach language to them this we
actually attach language to them this we go into in a lot more detail we can't go
go into in a lot more detail we can't go into everything in all detail in in the
into everything in all detail in in the guide but the cool thing is remember we
guide but the cool thing is remember we have this problem of hemispheric
have this problem of hemispheric lateralization which means negative
lateralization which means negative emotions are over here or emotions are
emotions are over here or emotions are over here and languages over here when
over here and languages over here when we have decreased awareness I me
we have decreased awareness I me decreased communication through
decreased communication through decreased activity across the Corpus
decreased activity across the Corpus colossum right and left hemispheres
colossum right and left hemispheres aren't talking what do you feel I don't
aren't talking what do you feel I don't know frustrated stressed those aren't
know frustrated stressed those aren't emotion I mean frustration isn't emotion
emotion I mean frustration isn't emotion there's no emotional Nuance so in order
there's no emotional Nuance so in order to literally articulate your emotion you
to literally articulate your emotion you have to increase the connectivity so as
have to increase the connectivity so as you as I ask you what do you feel what
you as I ask you what do you feel what do you feel what do you feel as you
do you feel what do you feel as you struggle to answer what's going on is
struggle to answer what's going on is your neurons from this side are reaching
your neurons from this side are reaching over and connecting with your neurons
over and connecting with your neurons over here what do I feel it's like hard
over here what do I feel it's like hard it's like you're reaching reaching
it's like you're reaching reaching trying to grab it trying to grab it
trying to grab it trying to grab it trying to grab it and even if you fail
trying to grab it and even if you fail to say the right thing even if you don't
to say the right thing even if you don't know what you you experience you don't
know what you you experience you don't know what you feel those neurons are
know what you feel those neurons are reaching that's where the money
reaching that's where the money is so I've seen this a lot where people
is so I've seen this a lot where people feel like the therapy isn't
feel like the therapy isn't working because they don't see progress
working because they don't see progress in 3 weeks and if you're looking for the
in 3 weeks and if you're looking for the ability to articulate in 3 weeks it's
ability to articulate in 3 weeks it's not going to happen but the therapy is
not going to happen but the therapy is working because your neurons are
working because your neurons are Reaching Across the Corpus kosum
Reaching Across the Corpus kosum bridging that Chasm and eventually the
bridging that Chasm and eventually the they'll figure it out and if they figure
they'll figure it out and if they figure it out then once they figure it out it's
it out then once they figure it out it's figured out you will level up your EQ
figured out you will level up your EQ you will level up your emotional
you will level up your emotional awareness and that will be a neuronal
awareness and that will be a neuronal connection that is
connection that is formed this is why I have hope for
formed this is why I have hope for people with
people with trauma see everyone thinks it's all
trauma see everyone thinks it's all about these temporary States like I'm
about these temporary States like I'm emotional no what we're doing is we're
emotional no what we're doing is we're laying neuronal
laying neuronal highways and once the highway when the
highways and once the highway when the highway is 90% built there's no traffic
highway is 90% built there's no traffic but the moment it gets built you can get
but the moment it gets built you can get a ton of traffic across so what I tend
a ton of traffic across so what I tend to see when I work with people is that
to see when I work with people is that their progress is nothing nothing
their progress is nothing nothing nothing boom nothing nothing nothing
nothing boom nothing nothing nothing nothing boom nothing nothing nothing
nothing boom nothing nothing nothing nothing
nothing nothing so this is what we want to do we
nothing so this is what we want to do we want to utilize language so as we Pro
want to utilize language so as we Pro discover our emotions then that allows
discover our emotions then that allows us to do a couple of different things
us to do a couple of different things okay so we're going to go back to this
okay so we're going to go back to this person who's
person who's numb oh God
uh where is that quote looking for the one oh yeah okay
quote looking for the one oh yeah okay here it
here it is
is so remember this where we say it's a
so remember this where we say it's a blank I think about my kids and I feel
blank I think about my kids and I feel nothing for them I'll be sitting there
nothing for them I'll be sitting there feeling confused and numb and I wonder
feeling confused and numb and I wonder what's supposed to it's like a dead
what's supposed to it's like a dead space right so this is dorsal medial
space right so this is dorsal medial prefrontal cortex is not active
prefrontal cortex is not active now when this person lives this life
and they go to their child's birthday party and they feel
party and they feel nothing there's nothing they don't have
nothing there's nothing they don't have a s like their identity is lost does
a s like their identity is lost does this make sense because like if you
this make sense because like if you think about what does it mean to be a
think about what does it mean to be a parent like I went to this birthday
parent like I went to this birthday party for my kid I planned it I saw the
party for my kid I planned it I saw the Joy on their face I saw all their
Joy on their face I saw all their friends be super super happy they've
friends be super super happy they've been struggling to make friends at
been struggling to make friends at school but everyone had such a good time
school but everyone had such a good time that now their social like status
that now their social like status amongst their friends is now improved so
amongst their friends is now improved so that makes me happy now I feel like a
that makes me happy now I feel like a good parent but I can't feel like a good
good parent but I can't feel like a good parent unless I can connect with the joy
parent unless I can connect with the joy in my
in my child so not only does this person feel
child so not only does this person feel emotionally enough their sense of
emotionally enough their sense of identity is going to be
identity is going to be compromised so that's where once we
compromised so that's where once we start feeling things we're going to do
start feeling things we're going to do two things to rebuild our sense of
two things to rebuild our sense of identity the first is there's a lot of
identity the first is there's a lot of dormant negative emotion which our mind
dormant negative emotion which our mind has dissociated from which still lingers
has dissociated from which still lingers there and the reason we dissociate from
there and the reason we dissociate from it is because it's overwhelming if we
it is because it's overwhelming if we let it overwhelm us our sense of
let it overwhelm us our sense of identity will get swept away so as we
identity will get swept away so as we start connecting the two parts of our
start connecting the two parts of our brain and articulating stuff all of that
brain and articulating stuff all of that emotional Energy starts getting vented
emotional Energy starts getting vented and essentially the negative emotions
and essentially the negative emotions that we store start
that we store start leaving if you do this process in
leaving if you do this process in Psychotherapy even better because it'll
Psychotherapy even better because it'll go
go faster as these things start to
faster as these things start to leave then your negative sense of
leave then your negative sense of identity will disappear with it the
identity will disappear with it the second thing that will happen is you
second thing that will happen is you will start to be able to engage in
will start to be able to engage in positive experiences which will then
positive experiences which will then recreate your
recreate your identity so now when you climb to the
identity so now when you climb to the top of the mountain you'll feel
top of the mountain you'll feel something and then you'll be like I did
something and then you'll be like I did it right so in both cases you did it but
it right so in both cases you did it but in one case you don't feel that you did
in one case you don't feel that you did it and in the other case you feel that
it and in the other case you feel that you did it you need dorsal medial
you did it you need dorsal medial prefrontal activation to feel like you
prefrontal activation to feel like you did
did it
it okay then what happens is once we awaken
okay then what happens is once we awaken different parts of the
brain where's [Music]
I can't find it what the okay I'll just explain it to yall
okay I'll just explain it to yall without showing you all the paper okay
without showing you all the paper okay I'll try to find it later
I'll try to find it later oh okay so
oh okay so next thing
next thing is
um what did I want to say so the next thing is that if we look
thing is that if we look at the Neuroscience of
at the Neuroscience of emotions what we now know is that not
emotions what we now know is that not all emotions are like the same
all emotions are like the same Neuroscience so we have something called
Neuroscience so we have something called affective
affective Neuroscience which is the emotions that
Neuroscience which is the emotions that relate to like the way that we feel
relate to like the way that we feel about the way we feel about our not
about the way we feel about our not about ourselves the way that we feel let
about ourselves the way that we feel let me start over so we now know that
me start over so we now know that emotions can be divided into two
emotions can be divided into two camps affective Neuroscience are the
camps affective Neuroscience are the emotions that are independent of society
emotions that are independent of society so for example if I'm hiking down a
so for example if I'm hiking down a mountain and a bear shows
mountain and a bear shows up like I can feel fear or Joy or
up like I can feel fear or Joy or whatever right like I can feel that like
whatever right like I can feel that like I don't need a human being but if we
I don't need a human being but if we look at human emotions there's a pile of
look at human emotions there's a pile of human emotions that require a social
human emotions that require a social connection
connection shame guilt Pride you cannot be proud
shame guilt Pride you cannot be proud without someone observing your pride you
without someone observing your pride you cannot be shamed without being observed
cannot be shamed without being observed you can't feel guilty without doing
you can't feel guilty without doing something bad for someone else so what
something bad for someone else so what we've actually discovered is that there
we've actually discovered is that there a couple of different emotional centers
a couple of different emotional centers in the brain and these primitive
in the brain and these primitive emotions that reptiles reptiles can feel
emotions that reptiles reptiles can feel fear they can feel anger right but I
fear they can feel anger right but I don't know that reptiles can feel proud
don't know that reptiles can feel proud like I don't know if like a crocodile
like I don't know if like a crocodile like has the social connection with
like has the social connection with other crocodiles to feel Pride when we
other crocodiles to feel Pride when we get to primates and stuff they
get to primates and stuff they absolutely can so there is a social
absolutely can so there is a social connection pile of emotions those
connection pile of emotions those emotions exist in a different part of
emotions exist in a different part of the brain they get activated under
the brain they get activated under different circumstances so once we start
different circumstances so once we start developing our identity these emotions
developing our identity these emotions will arise as well they will start
will arise as well they will start getting fixed once these emotions get
getting fixed once these emotions get fixed so it's not just the sense of
fixed so it's not just the sense of identity so now I built a sense of
identity so now I built a sense of identity and my social cognitive
identity and my social cognitive emotions have become active so once
emotions have become active so once these two things get fixed now I can fix
relationships because when the shame Within Me is haywire and not functioning
Within Me is haywire and not functioning correctly it becomes very hard to engage
correctly it becomes very hard to engage in a relationship my partner tells me I
in a relationship my partner tells me I love you I think you're beautiful and I
love you I think you're beautiful and I feel ashamed of myself so I say no I'm
not so that becomes hard until that part of my brain gets kind of cleaned out and
of my brain gets kind of cleaned out and normalized then I can do things like
normalized then I can do things like accept
compliments okay so then the last thing to get fixed is
to get fixed is relationships now in our community why
relationships now in our community why is this
is this important see in our community there's a
important see in our community there's a lot of people especially because today's
lot of people especially because today's a Friday and Friday is relationships day
a Friday and Friday is relationships day who are saying I'm struggling to get
who are saying I'm struggling to get into a relationship and outside of our
into a relationship and outside of our community not just our commun everyone's
community not just our commun everyone's struggling to get into a relationship
struggling to get into a relationship right some people are you know having
right some people are you know having sex and stuff some people are friends
sex and stuff some people are friends with benefits very few people are happy
with benefits very few people are happy with their relationships and people say
with their relationships and people say how do I fix my relationship how do I
how do I fix my relationship how do I fix my relationship and what everyone
fix my relationship and what everyone says is work on yourself first and then
says is work on yourself first and then people get frustrated by this
people get frustrated by this answer now I hope yall understand the
answer now I hope yall understand the mechanism
mechanism see this is where like when I see people
see this is where like when I see people like tweeting stuff I can't say all of
like tweeting stuff I can't say all of this but if you want to understand how
this but if you want to understand how to fix your relationship or if anyone
to fix your relationship or if anyone you know wants to understand how to fix
you know wants to understand how to fix them Rel their relationship they need to
them Rel their relationship they need to watch this
watch this video because we have to understand that
video because we have to understand that the
the relationship is at the height of what a
relationship is at the height of what a human being can fix it is at the top of
human being can fix it is at the top of the pyramid you can't fix a relationship
the pyramid you can't fix a relationship if you don't feel emotions you can't fix
if you don't feel emotions you can't fix a relationship if your emotions are
a relationship if your emotions are disregulated you can't fix a
disregulated you can't fix a relationship if your dorsal medial
relationship if your dorsal medial prefrontal cortex cannot feel Joy and
prefrontal cortex cannot feel Joy and accomplishment you can't fix a
accomplishment you can't fix a relationship if your sense of identity
relationship if your sense of identity turns you into either a chameleon or a
doormat the relation the best way to make a healthy relationship is to be a
make a healthy relationship is to be a healthy human
healthy human being now this gets even further
being now this gets even further complicated because part of being a
complicated because part of being a healthy human being can come through
healthy human being can come through relationships absolutely
but this is what we're talking about right so this is where people say like
right so this is where people say like how do I like get this person to do this
how do I like get this person to do this get this person to do this get this
get this person to do this get this person to do this and here I am I'm
person to do this and here I am I'm talking about how to fix your
talking about how to fix your relationships and I've not given you one
relationships and I've not given you one ioda of advice about what to do if
ioda of advice about what to do if someone doesn't text you back and I
someone doesn't text you back and I don't need to and you don't need
don't need to and you don't need it if the brain that has evolved for
it if the brain that has evolved for millions of years to allow you to engage
millions of years to allow you to engage in
in relationships I hate to break it to
relationships I hate to break it to youall a thousand years ago 2,000 years
youall a thousand years ago 2,000 years ago there weren't all these guides from
ago there weren't all these guides from Dr K about how to get laate or how to go
Dr K about how to get laate or how to go on a date or how to set boundaries none
on a date or how to set boundaries none of that that crap existed and people got
of that that crap existed and people got along what has changed this has changed
along what has changed this has changed the activity of this the function of
the activity of this the function of this so if you fix this if you fix your
this so if you fix this if you fix your sense of identity fix your emotional
sense of identity fix your emotional awareness because why do we end up in
awareness because why do we end up in bad relationships because we're not
bad relationships because we're not aware of our emotions when someone
aware of our emotions when someone doesn't text me back in 5 minutes I get
angry like I can't regulate that anger there's emotional
there's emotional disregulation there are perception
disregulation there are perception problems we haven't touched on
problems we haven't touched on perception yet but we talk about it in
perception yet but we talk about it in the guide there's all kinds of problems
the guide there's all kinds of problems and then we'll have a whole video on sex
and then we'll have a whole video on sex and relationship I mean sex and trauma
and relationship I mean sex and trauma too because that's really
too because that's really important okay
important okay so complex
so complex PTSD oh let me show youall one last
oh boy hold
on there's something I got I got to show youall okay this is like very
okay I I I can okay here here it is so let's talk about treatment okay so
is so let's talk about treatment okay so um we talked a little bit teaching uh
um we talked a little bit teaching uh PTSD patients with impair impairments
PTSD patients with impair impairments and emotional awareness to identify
and emotional awareness to identify their affective feelings early on in
their affective feelings early on in treatment and make exposure Bas
treatment and make exposure Bas treatments more effective so we need to
treatments more effective so we need to understand our emotions um yoga has also
understand our emotions um yoga has also been suggested to be effective in
been suggested to be effective in treating PTSD partially by increasing
treating PTSD partially by increasing one's interoceptive ability here's what
one's interoceptive ability here's what I want to show
I want to show youall okay
youall okay okay further evidence for the latter
okay further evidence for the latter stems from investigation by hagars who
stems from investigation by hagars who reported a differential outcome for PTSD
reported a differential outcome for PTSD patients with high versus low
patients with high versus low dissociative
dissociative symptomatology okay so remember
symptomatology okay so remember dissociation is hemispheric
dissociation is hemispheric lateralization and remember that
lateralization and remember that exposure therapy is often times what we
exposure therapy is often times what we do so let's take a step back and I got
do so let's take a step back and I got to explain this I realized talk about
to explain this I realized talk about this so one of the treatments for PTSD
this so one of the treatments for PTSD is exposure therapy so the reason that
is exposure therapy so the reason that we do exposure therapy is if let's say
we do exposure therapy is if let's say that I'm a war veteran and when I hear a
that I'm a war veteran and when I hear a door slam my brain because I'm
door slam my brain because I'm hyperaroused triggers like we're getting
hyperaroused triggers like we're getting bombed exe that's the basic problem in
bombed exe that's the basic problem in PTSD is that we go to war and we hear a
PTSD is that we go to war and we hear a loud bang and then our brain is like I'm
loud bang and then our brain is like I'm going to code we're getting bomb. exe
going to code we're getting bomb. exe any time you hear a loud noise
any time you hear a loud noise dive under the
dive under the table so now as I return back to life I
table so now as I return back to life I will hear loud noises all the time car
will hear loud noises all the time car muffers going
muffers going off door slamming and now I'm triggering
off door slamming and now I'm triggering we're getting bomb. exe so we get this
we're getting bomb. exe so we get this hyperarousal so one of the ways to fix
hyperarousal so one of the ways to fix that is to expose
that is to expose people two things that induce their
people two things that induce their traumatic hyperarousal response until
traumatic hyperarousal response until they climatize to it so as I slam doors
they climatize to it so as I slam doors over and over and over again eventually
over and over and over again eventually like my brain will realize oh like we're
like my brain will realize oh like we're getting bomb. exe is not appropriate
getting bomb. exe is not appropriate here we don't need to pull this up and
here we don't need to pull this up and so exposure therapy is effective okay
so exposure therapy is effective okay but this is what's
but this is what's cool so whereas only 10% of PTSD
cool so whereas only 10% of PTSD patients with low dissociative criteria
patients with low dissociative criteria symptoms still met uh PTSD criteria
symptoms still met uh PTSD criteria after a trial of exposure therapy
after a trial of exposure therapy 69% of PTSD patients with high levels of
69% of PTSD patients with high levels of dissociation continued to meet PTSD
dissociation continued to meet PTSD criteria at followup so I'll translate
criteria at followup so I'll translate that for you all if y'all didn't catch
that for you all if y'all didn't catch that if I take someone with PTSD who
that if I take someone with PTSD who does not dissociate and I give
does not dissociate and I give them exposure
them exposure therapy only 10% of them still have
therapy only 10% of them still have PTSD so let's presume that 90% of them
PTSD so let's presume that 90% of them get better if I take someone with a high
get better if I take someone with a high amount of dissociation and a diagnosis
amount of dissociation and a diagnosis of PTSD and I just give them exposure
of PTSD and I just give them exposure therapy 69% of them will still have PTS
so we can conclude not entirely fair right CU this is science and you can't
right CU this is science and you can't make conclusions like that that simple
make conclusions like that that simple exposure therapy doesn't work for people
exposure therapy doesn't work for people who have high dissociative symptoms if
who have high dissociative symptoms if you have complex PTSD you're going to be
you have complex PTSD you're going to be further in that direction so let's see
further in that direction so let's see what they
discovered therefore it is crucial before commencing exposure-based
before commencing exposure-based treatments to assess the level of
treatments to assess the level of emotional over modulation and provide
emotional over modulation and provide interventions to reduce such symptomatic
interventions to reduce such symptomatic responses in trauma related stimuli okay
responses in trauma related stimuli okay so basically what this this talks about
so basically what this this talks about stare which is a trauma treatment
stare which is a trauma treatment program but basically what I'm trying to
program but basically what I'm trying to tell y'all is that see in Western
tell y'all is that see in Western medicine we think that there is a
medicine we think that there is a diagnosis and diagnosis has treatment if
diagnosis and diagnosis has treatment if you've got bipolar disorder take this
you've got bipolar disorder take this medication if you've got ADHD take this
medication if you've got ADHD take this medication it'll fix it if you've got
medication it'll fix it if you've got PTSD do exposure therapy it'll fix it
PTSD do exposure therapy it'll fix it and we're not wrong to think
and we're not wrong to think that because we do trials right and like
that because we do trials right and like only 10% of people who had PTSD still
only 10% of people who had PTSD still have symptoms of it after exposure
have symptoms of it after exposure therapy if they're low on
therapy if they're low on dissociation but what I found with
dissociation but what I found with complex PTSD
complex PTSD especially is that the more
especially is that the more complex your presentation of difficulty
complex your presentation of difficulty is we can call it a diagnosis or we can
is we can call it a diagnosis or we can call it an illness the more that we have
call it an illness the more that we have all of these building blocks
all of these building blocks and the key thing is to build one block
and the key thing is to build one block on top of the other and then you can get
on top of the other and then you can get back to 100% most of y'all I've seen it
back to 100% most of y'all I've seen it time and time and time again the reason
time and time and time again the reason that treatments don't work is because we
that treatments don't work is because we don't we're not comprehensive
don't we're not comprehensive enough real trauma treatment see trauma
enough real trauma treatment see trauma doesn't just affect there's not one part
doesn't just affect there's not one part of the brain that's Mis
of the brain that's Mis active your autonomic nervous system
active your autonomic nervous system your brain different parts of your brain
your brain different parts of your brain some parts are hyperactive some parts
some parts are hyperactive some parts are hypo Pro active your sense of self
are hypo Pro active your sense of self your relationships your motivation your
your relationships your motivation your ability to your impulsivity your ability
ability to your impulsivity your ability to control your impulses everything is
to control your impulses everything is affected by trauma this is why trauma is
affected by trauma this is why trauma is the great
the great chameleon so many people I've worked
chameleon so many people I've worked with have a diagnosis of
with have a diagnosis of ADHD but they really have trauma so many
ADHD but they really have trauma so many people I work with have a diagnosis of
people I work with have a diagnosis of bipolar disorder but they have trauma
bipolar disorder but they have trauma so trauma can look like just about
anything okay all right so what we're going to do
okay all right so what we're going to do now so don't give up first of all like
now so don't give up first of all like things can get better and the only
things can get better and the only reason that we don't think they can get
reason that we don't think they can get better so put yourself in the shoes of
better so put yourself in the shoes of someone who did exposure therapy they go
someone who did exposure therapy they go to a psychiatrist the psychiatrist is
to a psychiatrist the psychiatrist is very well trained and very intelligent
very well trained and very intelligent says oh you have a diagnosis of PTSD go
says oh you have a diagnosis of PTSD go to exposure therapy at the end of
to exposure therapy at the end of exposure therapy they're still have PTSD
exposure therapy they're still have PTSD 69% because this onedimensional
69% because this onedimensional treatment is not
treatment is not effective in a certain class of people
effective in a certain class of people it's very effective and this is the way
it's very effective and this is the way that yall need to approach trauma if
that yall need to approach trauma if you're struggling with
you're struggling with it it's not just one thing it is not
it it's not just one thing it is not fixing a problem it is rebuilding
fixing a problem it is rebuilding yourself from the ground up and you say
yourself from the ground up and you say Dr K that sounds like too much work it's
Dr K that sounds like too much work it's not see what the only reason it feels
not see what the only reason it feels like too much work is if you've done a
like too much work is if you've done a lot of work and it has yielded no
lot of work and it has yielded no results then it feels like effort is
results then it feels like effort is useless anything feels like too much
useless anything feels like too much work if you're doing it wrong is it a
work if you're doing it wrong is it a lot of work absolutely is it hard to do
lot of work absolutely is it hard to do absolutely but my overwhelming
absolutely but my overwhelming experience as a clinician is that people
experience as a clinician is that people are into it once you start making
are into it once you start making progress once you're able to go to your
progress once you're able to go to your child's birthday party and be like wow
child's birthday party and be like wow I'm so glad they had such a good time
I'm so glad they had such a good time and I feel like a good parent it's like
and I feel like a good parent it's like you guys want that vein like
you guys want that vein like that's like heroin in your veins right
that's like heroin in your veins right there you begin to live the life the way
there you begin to live the life the way that your evolution is designed you
for this is the way we are supposed to live and it's like drinking water after
live and it's like drinking water after running five miles it just feels so good
running five miles it just feels so good it's just water people say oh my God I
it's just water people say oh my God I don't like the taste of water or they
don't like the taste of water or they drink soda all day
drink soda all day and then they but this is the key thing
and then they but this is the key thing to understand water is whether water
to understand water is whether water tastes good to you or not depends on
tastes good to you or not depends on what your body is
what your body is doing whether treatment is hard or easy
doing whether treatment is hard or easy depends on what you're doing what you're
depends on what you're doing what you're getting out of
getting out of it this is the biggest mistake that we
it this is the biggest mistake that we make so don't give up hope absolutely go
make so don't give up hope absolutely go see someone if this stuff resonates with
see someone if this stuff resonates with you if you guys want to better
you if you guys want to better understand these principles check out
understand these principles check out the guide we're going to watch a video
the guide we're going to watch a video in a second right this is not a place
in a second right this is not a place where I would recommend coaching this is
where I would recommend coaching this is not where coaching is that helpful I
not where coaching is that helpful I mean it can be for some of these things
mean it can be for some of these things like paralysis of initiation and
like paralysis of initiation and motivation and stuff like that but like
motivation and stuff like that but like this is where you all should see a
this is where you all should see a therapist right a trauma informed
therapist right a trauma informed specialist is ideal because they will
specialist is ideal because they will understand more of these
um okay so we're g to get to questions in a
second I love Leaf flow right so do I hey so do I all right
hey so do I all right um so like y'all don't seriously don't
um so like y'all don't seriously don't give up hope like it is crazy how much
give up hope like it is crazy how much we know about trauma we've gotten so
we know about trauma we've gotten so much better at this the last thing that
much better at this the last thing that I want to say is this Disturbed uh sense
I want to say is this Disturbed uh sense of
self-organization outside of trauma see if you have DSO without the symptoms of
if you have DSO without the symptoms of PTSD you can't get a diagnosis of cptsd
PTSD you can't get a diagnosis of cptsd cptsd is hyperarousal hyper vigilance
cptsd is hyperarousal hyper vigilance all the regular trauma Stuff Plus the
all the regular trauma Stuff Plus the Disturbed sense of of self-organization
Disturbed sense of of self-organization disturbance of self organization so what
disturbance of self organization so what I'm noticing in the world today is that
I'm noticing in the world today is that this Disturbed self-organization appears
this Disturbed self-organization appears to be independent of traumatic
to be independent of traumatic events I'm seeing a a society that is
events I'm seeing a a society that is increasingly emotionally
increasingly emotionally disregulated increasingly unable to tap
disregulated increasingly unable to tap into Joy
into Joy increasingly easy to trigger a seizure
increasingly easy to trigger a seizure of negative
of negative emotion increasingly confused about
emotion increasingly confused about their identity in
their identity in life and increasingly increased
life and increasingly increased difficulty in
difficulty in relationships so now the question that
relationships so now the question that I've really wondered is that if you see
I've really wondered is that if you see this DSO
this DSO picture can you do these trauma based
picture can you do these trauma based interventions you don't need exposure
interventions you don't need exposure therapy but can we do all of this other
stuff calm down your nervous system increase your emotional awareness
system increase your emotional awareness articulate
emotions improve your sense of identity reconnect with your positive self deal
reconnect with your positive self deal with negative emotional
with negative emotional disregulation deal with that amigdalar
disregulation deal with that amigdalar pseudo
seizur if we fix all of these things can we improve those DSO symptoms even if
we improve those DSO symptoms even if you don't have cptsd and that's really
you don't have cptsd and that's really what I
what I believe right that's the running
believe right that's the running hypothesis cuz I got I got it's too it's
hypothesis cuz I got I got it's too it's too similar the clinical picture
too similar the clinical picture are so the overlap is so strong I I
are so the overlap is so strong I I can't believe that the same regions of
can't believe that the same regions of the brain are not active and if the same
the brain are not active and if the same regions of the brain are active we can
regions of the brain are active we can do the same stuff and if it works for
do the same stuff and if it works for someone who has such a severe diagnosis
someone who has such a severe diagnosis of cptsd it should work for you and what
of cptsd it should work for you and what are we talking about here we're talking
are we talking about here we're talking about yoga we're talking about
about yoga we're talking about meditation we're talking about getting
meditation we're talking about getting in touch with your emotions we're
in touch with your emotions we're talking about articulating your emotions
talking about articulating your emotions we're talking about developing a sense
we're talking about developing a sense of self we're talking about forming
of self we're talking about forming narrative about your
life and that's what we see in this community because we've been working on
community because we've been working on this crap for yall this is why I'm so
this crap for yall this is why I'm so this is why I care so much about the
this is why I care so much about the trauma guide because the trauma guide is
trauma guide because the trauma guide is the guide for our
the guide for our community and hopefully it makes sense
community and hopefully it makes sense to youall now like where I'm coming from
to youall now like where I'm coming from you don't need cptsd the right answer
you don't need cptsd the right answer for cptsd is medical
for cptsd is medical treatment but for all of us who have
treatment but for all of us who have features of this
features of this who don't have a diagnosis we can still
who don't have a diagnosis we can still understand the basic neuroscience and
understand the basic neuroscience and address those
things right so the guide is not a substitute for clinical treatment it is
substitute for clinical treatment it is everything
else and that's what we're going to show you all today so if you
you all today so if you struggle
struggle with
initiation we're going to help y'all okay one
y'all okay one second all right so I can't watch this
second all right so I can't watch this I'm going to like literally step out of
I'm going to like literally step out of the room because I
the room because I cannot I cannot handle myself chat this
cannot I cannot handle myself chat this is just too much so I'm going to turn
is just too much so I'm going to turn this
this on um I'm going to turn this
on so we're going to watch an early cut and then we're going to do Q&A when I
and then we're going to do Q&A when I get back
okay next up we're going to talk about the paralysis of initiation and a lot of
the paralysis of initiation and a lot of people that I've worked with have
people that I've worked with have struggled with this this almost seems to
struggled with this this almost seems to be a societal phenomenon where people
be a societal phenomenon where people have trouble getting started we know
have trouble getting started we know theoretically that there are other
theoretically that there are other people out there who have goals and they
people out there who have goals and they can wake up and they can sort of just do
can wake up and they can sort of just do it and then they also tell us right like
it and then they also tell us right like if you want to go to the gym what you
if you want to go to the gym what you need to do is just do it you just got to
need to do is just do it you just got to put yourself out there and just get
put yourself out there and just get started CU getting started is the hard
started CU getting started is the hard part but there's a large subset of
part but there's a large subset of people who struggle with just getting
people who struggle with just getting started and as I explored this concept
started and as I explored this concept to try to help the patients that I was
to try to help the patients that I was working with I stumbled into the trauma
working with I stumbled into the trauma literature the original paper on complex
literature the original paper on complex PTSD uses this term paralysis of
PTSD uses this term paralysis of initiation now complex PTSD is a little
initiation now complex PTSD is a little bit different from traditional PTSD and
bit different from traditional PTSD and we're going to dive into that for just a
we're going to dive into that for just a second so in post-traumatic stress
second so in post-traumatic stress disorder you usually have one or a short
disorder you usually have one or a short term series of traumatic events that
term series of traumatic events that then traumatizes us and then we develop
then traumatizes us and then we develop a disorder a psychiatric problem as a
a disorder a psychiatric problem as a result of the intensity of that singular
result of the intensity of that singular trauma on the other hand there's a group
trauma on the other hand there's a group of researchers who discovered something
of researchers who discovered something called complex PTSD which is when the
called complex PTSD which is when the traumatic influence is persistent over
traumatic influence is persistent over time so it's not a one-time thing it's
time so it's not a one-time thing it's an environment that you grow up in or
an environment that you grow up in or once again going back to the prisoners
once again going back to the prisoners of War these are prisoners who are in
of War these are prisoners who are in these camps for years and years and
these camps for years and years and years and what these researchers
years and what these researchers discovered is that when a trauma is
discovered is that when a trauma is repeated that it messes up our ability
repeated that it messes up our ability to start our own actions it seems to
to start our own actions it seems to tamper with our very autonomy and what
tamper with our very autonomy and what they discovered in the prisoners was
they discovered in the prisoners was that these people became incredibly
that these people became incredibly listless because if you kind of think
listless because if you kind of think about it there's nothing there's no
about it there's nothing there's no point in getting anything started in a
point in getting anything started in a prison camp there's nowhere to go
prison camp there's nowhere to go there's there are no goals to accomplish
there's there are no goals to accomplish it's all about survival and what these
it's all about survival and what these researchers discovered is when these
researchers discovered is when these people got released from the prison camp
people got released from the prison camp they still struggled to initiate things
they still struggled to initiate things in their own lives so we're going to
in their own lives so we're going to dive into that Concept in more detail
dive into that Concept in more detail because we've learned a lot about it
because we've learned a lot about it since then the first cause of paralysis
since then the first cause of paralysis of initiation is a loss of autonomy and
of initiation is a loss of autonomy and a lack of reinforcement so let's start
a lack of reinforcement so let's start with kind of a traditional household
with kind of a traditional household let's say a healthy household so in this
let's say a healthy household so in this household you have children that kind of
household you have children that kind of grow up and they want to do things they
grow up and they want to do things they have desires so they go to their parents
have desires so they go to their parents and they say hey I want to go to the zoo
and they say hey I want to go to the zoo today and so the parents says okay fine
today and so the parents says okay fine like I'll take you to the zoo If the
like I'll take you to the zoo If the child has an Impulse to start something
child has an Impulse to start something or do something that impulse gets
or do something that impulse gets reinforced another good example of this
reinforced another good example of this is let's say I'm like painting a picture
is let's say I'm like painting a picture I made something at school and I come
I made something at school and I come home and I show my parents I say hey
home and I show my parents I say hey look at this picture I painted of the
look at this picture I painted of the family and my parents are very very
family and my parents are very very impressed and surprised with it and what
impressed and surprised with it and what they do is they put it up on my fridge
they do is they put it up on my fridge or they put up put it up on my wall at
or they put up put it up on my wall at some point though if you look at a
some point though if you look at a healthy normal household as a child
healthy normal household as a child starts to initiate things that
starts to initiate things that initiation is supported and
initiation is supported and reinforced if we look at something like
reinforced if we look at something like a controlling household or an abusive
a controlling household or an abusive household the picture is very different
household the picture is very different because in a controlling household what
because in a controlling household what I want to do is completely irrelevant it
I want to do is completely irrelevant it is what my parents want me to do that
is what my parents want me to do that becomes important so when I enter the
becomes important so when I enter the fifth grade and I have a choice between
fifth grade and I have a choice between learning this instrument or that
learning this instrument or that instrument which instrument I want to
instrument which instrument I want to learn is not as important as which
learn is not as important as which instrument my parents want me to learn
instrument my parents want me to learn and so what we tend to see is that the
and so what we tend to see is that the the behavioral impulses anytime I try to
the behavioral impulses anytime I try to start and do something those aren't
start and do something those aren't necessarily reinforced and instead of
necessarily reinforced and instead of autonomy I'm sort of taught compliance
autonomy I'm sort of taught compliance the same is true but in a slightly
the same is true but in a slightly different way when it comes to
different way when it comes to neglectful households so in the same
neglectful households so in the same situation if I come home with a a
situation if I come home with a a picture that I painted of my family and
picture that I painted of my family and my parents are absent or there's a
my parents are absent or there's a babysitter there or for whatever 100
babysitter there or for whatever 100 reasons that could possibly be going on
reasons that could possibly be going on something about my desires don't get
something about my desires don't get reinforced in a neglectful household
reinforced in a neglectful household because as a child growing up who is it
because as a child growing up who is it that refor reinforces and supports your
that refor reinforces and supports your desires it's your parents and so even in
desires it's your parents and so even in the case of absent parents we see a
the case of absent parents we see a Common Thread of when I want to do
Common Thread of when I want to do something the world around me doesn't
something the world around me doesn't necessarily help me do it and in the
necessarily help me do it and in the worst case scenarios what we actually
worst case scenarios what we actually see is that if I develop some sense of
see is that if I develop some sense of autonomy I actually get punished for it
autonomy I actually get punished for it if I start to demonstrate initiative
if I start to demonstrate initiative which is one of the other things that we
which is one of the other things that we sort of see in in the trauma literature
sort of see in in the trauma literature is that when we take initiative some
is that when we take initiative some people will get punished for it so I
people will get punished for it so I decided that I wanted to plan a birthday
decided that I wanted to plan a birthday party this weekend with my friends and I
party this weekend with my friends and I tell my parents about it on Thursday but
tell my parents about it on Thursday but then they get really angry with me for
then they get really angry with me for not discussing it with them not getting
not discussing it with them not getting their permission they're incredibly
their permission they're incredibly controlling so all of my initiative kind
controlling so all of my initiative kind of goes down the drain it's all about
of goes down the drain it's all about what other people want so this is the
what other people want so this is the first cause of the paralysis of
first cause of the paralysis of initiation is if we look at the normal
initiation is if we look at the normal child development or normal human
child development or normal human development at some point our desires
development at some point our desires get reinforced our autonomy gets
get reinforced our autonomy gets rewarded but if you grew up in an
rewarded but if you grew up in an environment where your autonomy was not
environment where your autonomy was not rewarded where your desires were not
rewarded where your desires were not reinforced that is a lesson that your
reinforced that is a lesson that your brain will carry forward the second
brain will carry forward the second aspect of paralysis of initiation has to
aspect of paralysis of initiation has to do with the loss of the future
do with the loss of the future Dimension I know it sounds kind of weird
Dimension I know it sounds kind of weird and abstract but it's actually pretty
and abstract but it's actually pretty simple so once again as a child let's
simple so once again as a child let's look at the normal situation so at some
look at the normal situation so at some point I start thinking about the future
point I start thinking about the future right if I have present and loving
right if I have present and loving parents they'll ask me oh what do you
parents they'll ask me oh what do you want for Christmas this year let's write
want for Christmas this year let's write Santa letter we are going to do
Santa letter we are going to do something today that be will be rewarded
something today that be will be rewarded not just tomorrow but a week from now
not just tomorrow but a week from now two weeks from now three weeks from now
two weeks from now three weeks from now similarly supportive parents will take a
similarly supportive parents will take a look at your schedule for the week and
look at your schedule for the week and sort of even if you're in the second
sort of even if you're in the second grade or third GR they will sort of
grade or third GR they will sort of remind you or help you understand that
remind you or help you understand that okay this week you have these two
okay this week you have these two assignments to complete so we need to
assignments to complete so we need to start thinking about tomorrow or even
start thinking about tomorrow or even the end of the week today so with
the end of the week today so with healthy parenting it's kind of bizarre
healthy parenting it's kind of bizarre but we have this part of our brain that
but we have this part of our brain that looks into the future and plans and
looks into the future and plans and executes tasks this is the frontal lobe
executes tasks this is the frontal lobe of our brain that kind of plans things
of our brain that kind of plans things out and makes sure they get done in a
out and makes sure they get done in a normal household this is a part of our
normal household this is a part of our brain that gets supported by our parents
brain that gets supported by our parents but once again once we move to a
but once again once we move to a controlling or a neglectful household
controlling or a neglectful household that all goes out the window so the
that all goes out the window so the first thing is planning for my future
first thing is planning for my future when I have controlling parents is a
when I have controlling parents is a waste of time because my parents have
waste of time because my parents have decided what my future will be in the
decided what my future will be in the worst case scenarios like so for example
worst case scenarios like so for example in my culture there are some traditional
in my culture there are some traditional Indian parents that will plan everything
Indian parents that will plan everything for their kids you're going to be a
for their kids you're going to be a doctor you're going to be a lawyer I had
doctor you're going to be a lawyer I had that conversation with my own dad when I
that conversation with my own dad when I was 9 years old he said we took me and
was 9 years old he said we took me and my brother aside I was nine my brother
my brother aside I was nine my brother was 12 and he said said one of y'all is
was 12 and he said said one of y'all is going to be a doctor and one of y'all is
going to be a doctor and one of y'all is going to be a lawyer and then I ended up
going to be a lawyer and then I ended up applying to med school and people asked
applying to med school and people asked me like why do you want to be a doctor
me like why do you want to be a doctor and I said well this is the conversation
and I said well this is the conversation my dad had with me and my brother was
my dad had with me and my brother was older so he got to choose first and he
older so he got to choose first and he went to law school so here I am and we
went to law school so here I am and we all had a good laugh about it but I
all had a good laugh about it but I never really answered the question the
never really answered the question the point though is that with controlling
point though is that with controlling parents who sort of determine your
parents who sort of determine your future for you they tell you what you
future for you they tell you what you need to accomplish they tell you when
need to accomplish they tell you when you need to accomplish it you're going
you need to accomplish it you're going to learn the cello you're going to learn
to learn the cello you're going to learn the vi you're going to do a sport you're
the vi you're going to do a sport you're going to do this you're going to do that
going to do this you're going to do that or you're going to carry on in your
or you're going to carry on in your Father's Footsteps and you're going to
Father's Footsteps and you're going to play football whatever the situation is
play football whatever the situation is your sense of the future gets negatively
your sense of the future gets negatively impacted you don't get to think about
impacted you don't get to think about the future and plan for the future on
the future and plan for the future on your own and the same is true in
your own and the same is true in neglectful households although once
neglectful households although once again slightly differently because in
again slightly differently because in this case if you're a seven-year-old kid
this case if you're a seven-year-old kid and your parents are absent there's no
and your parents are absent there's no point in planning for a slumber party in
point in planning for a slumber party in the future and remember that as kids we
the future and remember that as kids we don't really know how to plan for the
don't really know how to plan for the future ourselves we actually need adults
future ourselves we actually need adults to teach us how to really use our
to teach us how to really use our frontal loes they sort of train us to do
frontal loes they sort of train us to do all of these things in addition to like
all of these things in addition to like walking and talking and doing laundry
walking and talking and doing laundry and all of these tasks that parents
and all of these tasks that parents teach us are also affected in a
teach us are also affected in a neglectful household so this is the
neglectful household so this is the second thing that happens is that when
second thing that happens is that when we sort of think about the future
we sort of think about the future dimension in a healthy household
dimension in a healthy household thinking about the future Dimension is
thinking about the future Dimension is rewarded if if I make a Christmas list
rewarded if if I make a Christmas list for Santa I actually get those presents
for Santa I actually get those presents if I plan for a slumber party this
if I plan for a slumber party this weekend the slumber party actually
weekend the slumber party actually happens but in the case of controlling
happens but in the case of controlling abusive or neglectful households this
abusive or neglectful households this planning for the future does not get
planning for the future does not get reinforced sometimes it just becomes
reinforced sometimes it just becomes neglected so I don't get rewarded for
neglected so I don't get rewarded for thinking about the future but in the
thinking about the future but in the harshest cases I actually get punished
harshest cases I actually get punished so since I have all these plans of I
so since I have all these plans of I want this for Christmas or I want my
want this for Christmas or I want my friends to come over this weekend but on
friends to come over this weekend but on when Friday rolls around my parent is
when Friday rolls around my parent is has been drinking and they don't feel
has been drinking and they don't feel like having kids in the house so they
like having kids in the house so they tell me to call all my friends and
tell me to call all my friends and cancel at the last minute and then I'm
cancel at the last minute and then I'm left with disappointing all of my
left with disappointing all of my friends and so in the most drastic cases
friends and so in the most drastic cases we actually get punished for thinking
we actually get punished for thinking about the future and this is the problem
about the future and this is the problem in each of these scenarios is that over
in each of these scenarios is that over time in in the simplest case these parts
time in in the simplest case these parts of our brain are not reinforced we don't
of our brain are not reinforced we don't have behavioral reinforcement of Desire
have behavioral reinforcement of Desire we don't have positive reinforcement for
we don't have positive reinforcement for planning of the future and in the worst
planning of the future and in the worst cases we actually get punished for doing
cases we actually get punished for doing these things because if you kind of
these things because if you kind of think about it let's say I have a desire
think about it let's say I have a desire and then since my parents are neglectful
and then since my parents are neglectful I make this Christmas list but then no
I make this Christmas list but then no presents show up on Christmas Day what
presents show up on Christmas Day what is the lesson I learn as a child over
is the lesson I learn as a child over time the lesson I'll learn is it's
time the lesson I'll learn is it's better not to have desires in the first
better not to have desires in the first place because then I won't be
place because then I won't be disappointed so it's it's better to just
disappointed so it's it's better to just not want anything at all it's better to
not want anything at all it's better to not try to do anything it's better to
not try to do anything it's better to put forth no effort whatsoever because
put forth no effort whatsoever because at the end of the day I'm living my life
at the end of the day I'm living my life reactively I have no sense of autonomy
reactively I have no sense of autonomy or control and if I try to exert control
or control and if I try to exert control if I am stupid enough to want things
if I am stupid enough to want things then that will actually hurt and lead to
then that will actually hurt and lead to disappointment and then you learn a very
disappointment and then you learn a very dangerous lesson which is wanting things
dangerous lesson which is wanting things and thinking about the future is painful
and thinking about the future is painful and harmful and once you learn this
and harmful and once you learn this lesson this leads to the paralysis of
lesson this leads to the paralysis of initi ation later in life now there's
initi ation later in life now there's another challenge that we kind of run
another challenge that we kind of run into that keeps people who grow up in
into that keeps people who grow up in these kinds of environments from really
these kinds of environments from really initiating things and that is a Reliance
initiating things and that is a Reliance on perfectionism so there's a group of
on perfectionism so there's a group of people that I've worked with and this
people that I've worked with and this group by the way is becoming
group by the way is becoming increasingly common because once again a
increasingly common because once again a lot of people grow up in scenarios like
lot of people grow up in scenarios like this where they can't get started until
this where they can't get started until it's perfect so I'm not going to apply
it's perfect so I'm not going to apply to college unless I know I can get into
to college unless I know I can get into Harvard I'm not going to take this
Harvard I'm not going to take this course unless I know I can get an A I'm
course unless I know I can get an A I'm not going to even learn any skill until
not going to even learn any skill until I practice ahead of time even before I
I practice ahead of time even before I join the course so if I'm learning how
join the course so if I'm learning how to dance I'm going to spend three months
to dance I'm going to spend three months practicing at home so I don't embarrass
practicing at home so I don't embarrass myself when I join the class that is
myself when I join the class that is even for novices so there are a lot of
even for novices so there are a lot of people out there that are very hesitant
people out there that are very hesitant to get started until things are perfect
to get started until things are perfect and let's explore a little bit about why
and let's explore a little bit about why this happens so this too can be tracked
this happens so this too can be tracked back to trauma so if we sort of think
back to trauma so if we sort of think about controlling abusive or neglectful
about controlling abusive or neglectful households these households create
households these households create situations that are very stressful and
situations that are very stressful and dangerous for the child so in order to
dangerous for the child so in order to understand why some people become very
understand why some people become very perfectionistic and why some people can
perfectionistic and why some people can afford to take risks we have to
afford to take risks we have to understand a very important Divergence
understand a very important Divergence that happens very early in life so let's
that happens very early in life so let's start with the case of a healthy
start with the case of a healthy household so if you sort of think about
household so if you sort of think about it the world is objectively a dangerous
it the world is objectively a dangerous place for kids so if I'm like let's say
place for kids so if I'm like let's say an 18-month-old kid one-year-old kid
an 18-month-old kid one-year-old kid 2-year-old kid the world is a dangerous
2-year-old kid the world is a dangerous place I I can barely walk I tend to
place I I can barely walk I tend to stumble a lot things like stairs can be
stumble a lot things like stairs can be incredibly dangerous but it's not just
incredibly dangerous but it's not just that it's also things like when I get
that it's also things like when I get served food does the food burn me or not
served food does the food burn me or not and this is where parents come in
and this is where parents come in because parents who are very attentive
because parents who are very attentive will protect the child from the
will protect the child from the dangerous world and this is like kind of
dangerous world and this is like kind of what we know if you're a parent you'll
what we know if you're a parent you'll understand this that your children will
understand this that your children will try all kinds of things to hurt
try all kinds of things to hurt themselves because they don't really
themselves because they don't really know that the world is a dangerous place
know that the world is a dangerous place and the better you take care of them the
and the better you take care of them the more Reckless they become because there
more Reckless they become because there are never negative consequences for
are never negative consequences for things a parent who's always caught when
things a parent who's always caught when they jump off the bed will not learn the
they jump off the bed will not learn the danger of gravity so these children
danger of gravity so these children become very secure in the world around
become very secure in the world around them because it's a safe place because
them because it's a safe place because mom or dad is there to protect me from
mom or dad is there to protect me from danger so these children become more
danger so these children become more confident they're able to embrace more
confident they're able to embrace more risks they can try new things and they
risks they can try new things and they also enjoy exploring the world they're
also enjoy exploring the world they're very very confident that someone is out
very very confident that someone is out there protecting them they're not really
there protecting them they're not really aware that there's a person out there
aware that there's a person out there protecting them they just know that as
protecting them they just know that as they stumble around someone's always
they stumble around someone's always catching them and they don't get hurt on
catching them and they don't get hurt on the flip side let's look at something
the flip side let's look at something like a neglectful household so in this
like a neglectful household so in this case now the world becomes a dangerous
case now the world becomes a dangerous place because there isn't a parent
place because there isn't a parent paying attention if I slip and fall no
paying attention if I slip and fall no is even watching as I start climbing up
is even watching as I start climbing up the stairs and on my seventh stair since
the stairs and on my seventh stair since I'm like a 13-month-old kid I Stumble
I'm like a 13-month-old kid I Stumble and fall and then I roll down the stairs
and fall and then I roll down the stairs and start crying in the worst case
and start crying in the worst case scenarios even when I start crying
scenarios even when I start crying either the parent doesn't pay attention
either the parent doesn't pay attention doesn't care or even will get mad at me
doesn't care or even will get mad at me for crying and will tell me to be quiet
for crying and will tell me to be quiet so if we see households that are
so if we see households that are incredibly controlling which also can be
incredibly controlling which also can be sort of scary for a child because in a
sort of scary for a child because in a controlling household with very
controlling household with very demanding parents we want our children
demanding parents we want our children to be perfect right don't spill don't
to be perfect right don't spill don't play with this you made a mess this
play with this you made a mess this happened this happened this happened so
happened this happened this happened so very controlling parents will be very
very controlling parents will be very angry with their children for not being
angry with their children for not being perfect abusive households also lead to
perfect abusive households also lead to a Reliance on perfectionism because
a Reliance on perfectionism because usually what the child learns when it
usually what the child learns when it comes to abuse is there is a magical
comes to abuse is there is a magical formula to avoid the abuse If the child
formula to avoid the abuse If the child can be kind enough if the child can be
can be kind enough if the child can be sweet enough if the child can be cute
sweet enough if the child can be cute enough or pretty enough Demir enough
enough or pretty enough Demir enough invisible enough sometimes these
invisible enough sometimes these children can sort of figure out almost
children can sort of figure out almost from a survival mechanism that if I have
from a survival mechanism that if I have an abusive parent there are some days
an abusive parent there are some days that the parent is not abusive and so
that the parent is not abusive and so then the child naturally tries to figure
then the child naturally tries to figure out what is the difference between the
out what is the difference between the abusive day and the non-abusive day and
abusive day and the non-abusive day and this is when they start to develop this
this is when they start to develop this idea that if I'm a perfect child then I
idea that if I'm a perfect child then I will be safe and so perfectionism and
will be safe and so perfectionism and safety go hand in hand so if you try to
safety go hand in hand so if you try to do something in the outside world and
do something in the outside world and you not perfect remember that this stuff
you not perfect remember that this stuff gets baked in to your upbringing in the
gets baked in to your upbringing in the same way that you were understanding how
same way that you were understanding how strong gravity is or what the sun feels
strong gravity is or what the sun feels like or how many fingers you have this
like or how many fingers you have this stuff gets really baked in and
stuff gets really baked in and perfectionism and safety become one and
perfectionism and safety become one and the same so this is another reason why
the same so this is another reason why people struggle with initiating tasks
people struggle with initiating tasks they can be very very afraid of doing
they can be very very afraid of doing something wrong they can't afford to
something wrong they can't afford to make mistakes and they need to be
make mistakes and they need to be perfect before they get started and why
perfect before they get started and why is this it's because the world that they
is this it's because the world that they see does not allow them to make mistakes
see does not allow them to make mistakes that if they make some kind of slip up
that if they make some kind of slip up and if they screw up in some kind of way
and if they screw up in some kind of way the world is a fundamentally dangerous
the world is a fundamentally dangerous scary and punishing place and if we are
scary and punishing place and if we are wired in any one of these three ways if
wired in any one of these three ways if our desires and our autonomy has not
our desires and our autonomy has not been reinforced if our capacity to plan
been reinforced if our capacity to plan for the future has actually been
for the future has actually been squashed or neglected or we grew up in
squashed or neglected or we grew up in an environment Enon where we had to be
an environment Enon where we had to be perfect before we get started all three
perfect before we get started all three of these can result in the paralysis of
initiation all righty
righty so all right hold on a
second um yeah so that's that's a
um yeah so that's that's a uh that's one of the videos from the
uh that's one of the videos from the trauma guide and like I said like we
trauma guide and like I said like we we've been working on this for a while
we've been working on this for a while and and when I was making the trauma
and and when I was making the trauma guide
guide y'all can hear me right am I muted okay
y'all can hear me right am I muted okay no y'all can hear me
no y'all can hear me um you know I I was thinking about like
um you know I I was thinking about like us and like what are the things that we
us and like what are the things that we struggle with and it's not and there's
struggle with and it's not and there's Absolut like clinically significant
Absolut like clinically significant stuff and I was also thinking about like
stuff and I was also thinking about like you know if I could take all of my
you know if I could take all of my patients who have diagnoses of some kind
patients who have diagnoses of some kind of trauma or a history of
of trauma or a history of trauma and I could like give them a
trauma and I could like give them a workshop
workshop for not stuff that we do in the office
for not stuff that we do in the office like nothing about I mean there's stuff
like nothing about I mean there's stuff about medication and treatment and stuff
about medication and treatment and stuff like that too but like not that stuff
like that too but like not that stuff but like all the other dimensions of
but like all the other dimensions of their life like how do you find a
their life like how do you find a relationship when you have a history of
relationship when you have a history of trauma um how do you reconnect with
trauma um how do you reconnect with yourself and these are the kinds of
yourself and these are the kinds of things that like you know are not
things that like you know are not specific to a person this is the common
specific to a person this is the common stuff that I would teach to my
stuff that I would teach to my patients um which isn't technically like
patients um which isn't technically like a part of their diagn I mean it's part
a part of their diagn I mean it's part of their diagnosis I guess but it's it's
of their diagnosis I guess but it's it's like I don't know how to describe it
like I don't know how to describe it it's
it's not you know it's not about this
not you know it's not about this relationship that this person has it's
relationship that this person has it's about the
about the principle of why is it hard for this
principle of why is it hard for this group of people to form
group of people to form relationships um
okay yeah so let's do some Q&A so we've got time for we wanted to save some time
got time for we wanted to save some time for Q&A so we've got I know we've like
for Q&A so we've got I know we've like run long and we're at like 2:30 and we
run long and we're at like 2:30 and we started late but let's do Q&A for about
started late but let's do Q&A for about 15 minutes uh can you answer super chat
15 minutes uh can you answer super chat questions I I I don't know I don't know
questions I I I don't know I don't know how to do that
um okay so there's one question here uh since trauma is the great
here uh since trauma is the great chameleon what is your opinion on when
chameleon what is your opinion on when you disagree with your therapist about
you disagree with your therapist about your presentation belief in oneself is
your presentation belief in oneself is important for Recovery yet they are a
important for Recovery yet they are a professional um
professional um okay I'm going to ask if we have mods if
okay I'm going to ask if we have mods if y'all saw good questions if anyone was
y'all saw good questions if anyone was keeping trap can y'all let me know
keeping trap can y'all let me know via uh you know some method of
via uh you know some method of communication just let me
communication just let me know
um okay so what if you disagree with your therapist this is a great
your therapist this is a great question so how do you go
question so how do you go about how do you if your therapist
about how do you if your therapist disagrees or if you disagree with your
disagrees or if you disagree with your therapist about your diagnosis or the
therapist about your diagnosis or the formulation like what do you do about
formulation like what do you do about that right they're the one with the
that right they're the one with the degree but you're the one who's living
degree but you're the one who's living the
the life so this is where I'd
life so this is where I'd say disagreement in therapy is like not
say disagreement in therapy is like not something to be avoided the whole point
something to be avoided the whole point of therapy is that we don't know what
of therapy is that we don't know what the right answer is when we get started
the right answer is when we get started and finding the right answer is a series
and finding the right answer is a series of like re-calibrating after
of like re-calibrating after overshooting or moving in the wrong
overshooting or moving in the wrong direction like that's what therapy is so
direction like that's what therapy is so your therapist doesn't magically know
your therapist doesn't magically know what's going on with you we have the
what's going on with you we have the first layer of information and then we
first layer of information and then we make some conclusions and then we have
make some conclusions and then we have the second layer of information we we
the second layer of information we we Whittle away some of the conclusions and
Whittle away some of the conclusions and then over time we want to kind of like
then over time we want to kind of like pingpong our way like to what the right
pingpong our way like to what the right answer is that's been my experience as a
answer is that's been my experience as a psychiatrist
psychiatrist so if you disagree with your therapist I
so if you disagree with your therapist I think first of all that's totally fine
think first of all that's totally fine secondly I would ask I would ask the
secondly I would ask I would ask the therapists to explain why they believe
therapists to explain why they believe what they believe so walk me through
what they believe so walk me through your
your reasoning and then what you want to
reasoning and then what you want to offer
offer is your own reasoning so let me
is your own reasoning so let me understand why you have your opinion let
understand why you have your opinion let me now explain to you why I think that's
me now explain to you why I think that's good or not good or what my perspective
good or not good or what my perspective is and chances are neither of you is
is and chances are neither of you is going to be 100% right and then the
going to be 100% right and then the question is what can your therapist take
question is what can your therapist take away from your explanation that moves
away from your explanation that moves you closer to the right answer and what
you closer to the right answer and what can you take away from your therapist's
can you take away from your therapist's answer that moves you closer to the
answer that moves you closer to the right
right answer now a lot of therapists myself
answer now a lot of therapists myself included find
included find that having a patient understand what's
that having a patient understand what's truly going on is not going to happen
truly going on is not going to happen fast so I often times find that when I
fast so I often times find that when I explain things to patients or when I
explain things to patients or when I offer a formulation at the very
offer a formulation at the very beginning they will sometimes very
beginning they will sometimes very strongly disagree with something that
strongly disagree with something that I'm very confident in and usually over
I'm very confident in and usually over time we get there right because you have
time we get there right because you have to remember that as a
to remember that as a patient you have more information about
patient you have more information about your life but you're not as
your life but you're not as objective so that's where it's like and
objective so that's where it's like and you know medical doctors therapists
you know medical doctors therapists psychiatrists we get diagnoses like
psychiatrists we get diagnoses like wrong all the
wrong all the time so I you know I there's all kinds
time so I you know I there's all kinds of stuff that we get wrong so I I I
of stuff that we get wrong so I I I think it's more about the process than
think it's more about the process than it is about like being right or wrong so
it is about like being right or wrong so there's try to really understand where
there's try to really understand where they're coming from and I I try to take
they're coming from and I I try to take that to heart right really try to be
that to heart right really try to be open-minded and try to see if you can
open-minded and try to see if you can understand okay how even though I
understand okay how even though I instinctively react to this being
instinctively react to this being incorrect
there's a possibility that if I change my thinking in some ways this could be
my thinking in some ways this could be correct so let me try to do that right
correct so let me try to do that right so the last thing I'd kind of say is
so the last thing I'd kind of say is Steelman instead of straw man their
Steelman instead of straw man their argument I mean it shouldn't be an
argument I mean it shouldn't be an argument but do your best to alter your
argument but do your best to alter your assumptions to see if you can understand
assumptions to see if you can understand where they're coming
where they're coming from good question
from good question okay um now let's go to
there we go okay questions
go okay questions um trauma guide I think comes out at the
um trauma guide I think comes out at the end of the
uh okay a cptsd and ADHD there seems to be a lot of overlap how do you tell the
be a lot of overlap how do you tell the difference between the two if you have
difference between the two if you have both I think you mentioned in another
both I think you mentioned in another video something about how all kids with
video something about how all kids with ADHD end up with some trauma if that's
ADHD end up with some trauma if that's true how do we know comes from ADHD
true how do we know comes from ADHD versus what comes from cptsd it's a
versus what comes from cptsd it's a great
great question so if you've got ADHD and
question so if you've got ADHD and Trauma how do you know what's
Trauma how do you know what's what so there are a couple of different
what so there are a couple of different things to keep in mind the first thing
things to keep in mind the first thing that we have to remember is that
that we have to remember is that psychiatric diagnoses are not real
psychiatric diagnoses are not real things they are abstractions or human
things they are abstractions or human Concepts to try to understand reality
Concepts to try to understand reality so like when I say someone has major
so like when I say someone has major depressive disorder there's absolutely
depressive disorder there's absolutely some kind of biological mechanism but
some kind of biological mechanism but human beings made up the idea of major
human beings made up the idea of major depressive disorder what psychiatric
depressive disorder what psychiatric diagnosis really is is a bunch of human
diagnosis really is is a bunch of human beings observe real things in other
beings observe real things in other human beings and then we try to come up
human beings and then we try to come up with a language that
with a language that unifies what we see in individuals and
unifies what we see in individuals and that's really what a psychiatric
that's really what a psychiatric diagnosis is
diagnosis is so how can you tell the difference
so how can you tell the difference between what's ADHD and what's PTSD or
between what's ADHD and what's PTSD or cptsd so both of these can result in
cptsd so both of these can result in impairment in concentration or attention
impairment in concentration or attention both of them can result in impulsivity
both of them can result in impulsivity both of them can result in emotional
both of them can result in emotional disregulation how can we tell the
disregulation how can we tell the difference so a lot of what we know
difference so a lot of what we know about ADHD is from a neurodiverse
about ADHD is from a neurodiverse perspective we know that their brains
perspective we know that their brains develop in a slightly different way so
develop in a slightly different way so we know that people with ADHD have
we know that people with ADHD have less their frontal loes have less
less their frontal loes have less control over their impulses in their
control over their impulses in their emotions so people with ADHD are more
emotions so people with ADHD are more likely to get emotionally disregulated
likely to get emotionally disregulated and we can track that back to the
and we can track that back to the connections in their brain so our
connections in their brain so our frontal loes are the brakes and they can
frontal loes are the brakes and they can control and re in other parts of our
control and re in other parts of our brain but people with ADHD have breakes
brain but people with ADHD have breakes that seem to be weaker and there's some
that seem to be weaker and there's some kind of genetic component to this some
kind of genetic component to this some kind of the way that your brain is
kind of the way that your brain is wired now things get complicated because
wired now things get complicated because growing up in a neurotypical society as
growing up in a neurotypical society as someone who is neurodiverse results in
someone who is neurodiverse results in usually some level of trauma so if you
usually some level of trauma so if you look at comorbid ADHD and major
look at comorbid ADHD and major depressive disorder what you find is 3%
depressive disorder what you find is 3% of people who have major depressive
of people who have major depressive disorder will grow up to have
disorder will grow up to have ADHD but 70 % of people who have ADHD
ADHD but 70 % of people who have ADHD will grow up to have major depressive
will grow up to have major depressive disorder this is in within a comorbid
disorder this is in within a comorbid population so there is absolutely a
population so there is absolutely a positive impact of ADHD on depression
positive impact of ADHD on depression and the reason for that is because when
and the reason for that is because when you're
you're neurodiverse and people just tell you to
neurodiverse and people just tell you to try harder but your brain can't do that
try harder but your brain can't do that you start to believe something is wrong
you start to believe something is wrong with you you don't have as much
with you you don't have as much self-esteem people don't since you cut
self-esteem people don't since you cut in line you don't get invited to
in line you don't get invited to birthday Pary you have fewer friends
birthday Pary you have fewer friends because you can't wait your turn and all
because you can't wait your turn and all of these there's consequences of
of these there's consequences of untreated ADHD that will end up
untreated ADHD that will end up traumatizing so at that point we've kind
traumatizing so at that point we've kind of got both now this also gets confusing
of got both now this also gets confusing because there are a lot of features of
because there are a lot of features of PTSD like emotional disregulation
PTSD like emotional disregulation difficulty cont
difficulty cont concentrating so how can you tell the
concentrating so how can you tell the difference so there are a couple of
difference so there are a couple of different things to keep in mind the
different things to keep in mind the first is that it's not so important to
first is that it's not so important to really tease it out
really tease it out because many of the things that we will
because many of the things that we will do to fix one we would do to fix the
do to fix one we would do to fix the other anyway so simple example is
other anyway so simple example is meditation right so meditation is a
meditation right so meditation is a useful treatment for PTSD cptsd
useful treatment for PTSD cptsd borderline personality disorder and ADHD
borderline personality disorder and ADHD there are some specifics about the kind
there are some specifics about the kind of meditation which you kind of need to
of meditation which you kind of need to understand but generally speaking the
understand but generally speaking the treatment is going to be the same
treatment is going to be the same dealing with shame whether it comes from
dealing with shame whether it comes from ADHD or PTSD is going to be the not the
ADHD or PTSD is going to be the not the same but there's it's in the same
same but there's it's in the same ballpark let's put it that way so the
ballpark let's put it that way so the treatments for the two will overlap
treatments for the two will overlap quite a bit the third thing is emotional
quite a bit the third thing is emotional disregulation that needs to be improved
disregulation that needs to be improved in both right so this is where the first
in both right so this is where the first thing to keep in mind is it is not
thing to keep in mind is it is not necessary to perfectly tease these two
necessary to perfectly tease these two apart before we
apart before we intervene and this is something that we
intervene and this is something that we learn in clinical medicine right so when
learn in clinical medicine right so when you become a psychiatrist you learn this
you become a psychiatrist you learn this if you're not sure what the diagnosis is
if you're not sure what the diagnosis is lean into a treatment that treats both
lean into a treatment that treats both options so ssris does this person have a
options so ssris does this person have a anxious depression or do they have an
anxious depression or do they have an anxiety disorder with an adjustment
anxiety disorder with an adjustment disorder laid on top who knows in either
disorder laid on top who knows in either case ssris will treat both so if we're
case ssris will treat both so if we're going to start with something let's
going to start with something let's start with an SSRI so the treatments can
start with an SSRI so the treatments can overlap now there are a couple of places
overlap now there are a couple of places where the treatments don't overlap so
where the treatments don't overlap so for example things like stimulant
for example things like stimulant medication and that's where it is
medication and that's where it is important so we can do things like
important so we can do things like neuropsychological testing right we can
neuropsychological testing right we can offer formal testing to detect the
offer formal testing to detect the deficits of
deficits of ADHD um we can also offer like you know
ADHD um we can also offer like you know diagnostic scales of trauma and things
diagnostic scales of trauma and things like that and so like we can we can
like that and so like we can we can tease things apart in some way but I I'd
tease things apart in some way but I I'd say that practically you know I've
say that practically you know I've treated a lot of people where we're not
treated a lot of people where we're not sure like what is causing what and
sure like what is causing what and that's where like as a clinician what we
that's where like as a clinician what we do is okay like so if I think your
do is okay like so if I think your diagnoses are ADHD and PTSD we can start
diagnoses are ADHD and PTSD we can start somewh on stimulant
somewh on stimulant medication and then we see right what
medication and then we see right what part of this does this fix so if more of
part of this does this fix so if more of it is trauma oriented we would not
it is trauma oriented we would not expect ADHD medication to be that
expect ADHD medication to be that effective at improving things so over
effective at improving things so over time it's like it's like a process right
time it's like it's like a process right and that's why we we really emphasize
and that's why we we really emphasize that you should work with a clinician
that you should work with a clinician the advantage of working with a
the advantage of working with a clinician is that they will collect more
clinician is that they will collect more information over time and you will
information over time and you will refine your diagnosis and you absolutely
refine your diagnosis and you absolutely could both great
question okay next
um okay I'm going to see a therapist for the first time soon do you have any
the first time soon do you have any advice it's hard for me to open up and
advice it's hard for me to open up and talk about myself or how I feel
talk about myself or how I feel emotionally so here's my advice if
emotionally so here's my advice if you're going to a therapist for the
you're going to a therapist for the first
first time so remember that the therapist has
time so remember that the therapist has a job
a job and their job is to do their job so you
and their job is to do their job so you don't need to be great at opening up you
don't need to be great at opening up you don't have to talk about yourself
don't have to talk about yourself emotionally it is their job to make you
emotionally it is their job to make you feel comfortable enough to where you
feel comfortable enough to where you open up whether you kind of want to or
open up whether you kind of want to or not second thing to keep in mind is that
not second thing to keep in mind is that success in therapy is a skill so the
success in therapy is a skill so the first time that you go ice skating I
first time that you go ice skating I wouldn't expect you to know how to ice
wouldn't expect you to know how to ice skate in the same way going to therapy
skate in the same way going to therapy is something that you will get better at
is something that you will get better at overtime so there are some patients that
overtime so there are some patients that I've worked with where like I like one
I've worked with where like I like one of the things that I'll put in their
of the things that I'll put in their formulation and something that I'll let
formulation and something that I'll let them know is that I think you utilize
them know is that I think you utilize therapy very well right so people will
therapy very well right so people will get better at it so my advice would be
get better at it so my advice would be the most important part is showing
the most important part is showing up and then follow their lead and let
up and then follow their lead and let them know what you're looking for let
them know what you're looking for let them know what works for you and what
them know what works for you and what doesn't work for you it's totally fine
doesn't work for you it's totally fine to even tell them hey I I have
to even tell them hey I I have difficulty opening up and talking about
difficulty opening up and talking about my emotions that's totally fair game
my emotions that's totally fair game right so that's their job to help you
right so that's their job to help you get better at
that okay
um what tactic would you take to heal cptsd mixed with moral injury from a
cptsd mixed with moral injury from a specific event I'm confused about what
specific event I'm confused about what moral injury from a specific event
moral injury from a specific event is um what's the relationship between
is um what's the relationship between cptsd addiction and sense of
cptsd addiction and sense of worthlessness so let's talk about
worthlessness so let's talk about that so the first thing to understand
that so the first thing to understand about trauma and addiction is that tra
about trauma and addiction is that tra addiction is not a problem it is a
addiction is not a problem it is a solution so human beings get addicted to
solution so human beings get addicted to things for a couple of reasons so you
things for a couple of reasons so you can absolutely make a genetic argument
can absolutely make a genetic argument where there's a very strong you know
where there's a very strong you know vulnerability and once you get a taste
vulnerability and once you get a taste like the first drop of alcohol and
like the first drop of alcohol and you're hooked I've absolutely seen that
you're hooked I've absolutely seen that but for a lot of people addictions are
but for a lot of people addictions are solutions before they become problems so
solutions before they become problems so addictions give pleasure and take away
addictions give pleasure and take away pain and the problem with cptsd is that
pain and the problem with cptsd is that remember we have emotional
remember we have emotional disregulation we have difficulty so
disregulation we have difficulty so there's two parts there's two ways that
there's two parts there's two ways that people with with trauma have difficulty
people with with trauma have difficulty with their emotions the first is that
with their emotions the first is that their negative emotions in the more
their negative emotions in the more primitive parts of their brain this is
primitive parts of their brain this is places like the the
places like the the these are the part parts of our brain
these are the part parts of our brain that experience fear anxiety things like
that experience fear anxiety things like that those are very itchy they've got
that those are very itchy they've got itchy trigger fingers so they can
itchy trigger fingers so they can trigger very easily and very
trigger very easily and very intensely F that's the first emotional
intensely F that's the first emotional deficit second emotional problem that
deficit second emotional problem that people with trauma have is that their
people with trauma have is that their sense of self often times carries with
sense of self often times carries with it a lot of Shame and guilt and stuff
it a lot of Shame and guilt and stuff like that so this isn't like fear of the
like that so this isn't like fear of the outside world this is a persistent
outside world this is a persistent emotional negative state that I carry
emotional negative state that I carry with me that's actually a different part
with me that's actually a different part of the brain it relates more to the
of the brain it relates more to the default mode
default mode Network these are emotions that are
Network these are emotions that are called social cognitive emotions so we
called social cognitive emotions so we have two types of emotions we have our
have two types of emotions we have our primitive emotions like anger and fear
primitive emotions like anger and fear that even reptiles experience and then
that even reptiles experience and then we have a different part of our brain
we have a different part of our brain that has our social cognitive emotions
that has our social cognitive emotions Pride guilt shame you can't have those
Pride guilt shame you can't have those emotions without a social component I
emotions without a social component I feel proud when people look at me I feel
feel proud when people look at me I feel ashamed when people look at me it
ashamed when people look at me it requires
requires socialization so the people with PTSD
socialization so the people with PTSD have difficulty with that as well the
have difficulty with that as well the third thing that people with PTSD
third thing that people with PTSD struggle with is feeling positive
struggle with is feeling positive emotions these come from a completely
emotions these come from a completely different region of the brain the dorsal
different region of the brain the dorsal medial prefrontal cortex so this is
medial prefrontal cortex so this is stuff like excitement love curiosity
stuff like excitement love curiosity people with trauma feel kind of like
people with trauma feel kind of like numbed out right so it's kind of like
numbed out right so it's kind of like the real tragedy is you feel numbed out
the real tragedy is you feel numbed out in terms of
in terms of positivity but you're you've got a very
positivity but you're you've got a very itchy brain and it's easy to activate
itchy brain and it's easy to activate some of these negative emotions so where
some of these negative emotions so where does Addiction come in addiction fixes
does Addiction come in addiction fixes all three right so if we look at things
all three right so if we look at things like benzo aines these are treatments
like benzo aines these are treatments for anxiety and we developed benzo
for anxiety and we developed benzo diazines by recognizing that
diazines by recognizing that alcohol alleviates people's anxiety so
alcohol alleviates people's anxiety so we developed a pill that basically
we developed a pill that basically activates the same receptor as alcohol
activates the same receptor as alcohol kind of chills you out right so we know
kind of chills you out right so we know we can treat anxiety with certain
we can treat anxiety with certain psychoactive
psychoactive substances next thing that uh
substances next thing that uh psychoactive substances do is they will
psychoactive substances do is they will numb us right so this is also through
numb us right so this is also through the Gaba receptor like alcohol but there
the Gaba receptor like alcohol but there are other ways that they will sort of
are other ways that they will sort of make us forget ourselves that critical
make us forget ourselves that critical self dialogue that is always running in
self dialogue that is always running in our head goes away when we get high for
our head goes away when we get high for example so they alleviate our negative
example so they alleviate our negative emotions the Third thing that they help
emotions the Third thing that they help us do is feel positive emotions so it's
us do is feel positive emotions so it's easier to feel like we're having a good
easier to feel like we're having a good time we're vibing we're relaxing we're
time we're vibing we're relaxing we're chilling we're partying things like MDMA
chilling we're partying things like MDMA or ecstasy can help us feel connected to
or ecstasy can help us feel connected to other people right so if we really look
other people right so if we really look at it the reason that trauma and drugs
at it the reason that trauma and drugs overlap so heavily is because drugs and
overlap so heavily is because drugs and addictions fix the problems of trauma
addictions fix the problems of trauma but only temporarily so we also see this
but only temporarily so we also see this with with things like people who have a
with with things like people who have a history of trauma and have diagnoses of
history of trauma and have diagnoses of borderline personality disorder will
borderline personality disorder will engage with things like Pro promiscuous
engage with things like Pro promiscuous Behavior intense unstable relationships
Behavior intense unstable relationships to help feel loved right because when
to help feel loved right because when I'm head over heels in love with someone
I'm head over heels in love with someone I can feel better about myself so we see
I can feel better about myself so we see that if we look at the Neuroscience of
that if we look at the Neuroscience of emotional challenges with PTSD we see
emotional challenges with PTSD we see that addictions actually like fix all
that addictions actually like fix all three of those so there's a very high
three of those so there's a very high overlap the problem is that the fix from
overlap the problem is that the fix from an addiction is temporary and over time
an addiction is temporary and over time will get objectively
will get objectively worse great
okay how would you heal Trauma from having been in an incubator for a long
having been in an incubator for a long time as a b baby I have no clue I mean
time as a b baby I have no clue I mean that's really interesting there's a lot
that's really interesting there's a lot of like interesting data about you know
of like interesting data about you know per
per natal and and post birth like stuff and
natal and and post birth like stuff and correlations with things like learning
correlations with things like learning disabilities and stuff like that I've
disabilities and stuff like that I've never I don't think I've ever seen a
never I don't think I've ever seen a clinical case where like we thought that
clinical case where like we thought that the trauma originated at the level of an
the trauma originated at the level of an incubator but it's a very interesting
incubator but it's a very interesting question I'm not saying it can't have an
question I'm not saying it can't have an impact um really interesting question I
impact um really interesting question I don't have an answer to that one
okay is there a significant difference between someone who developed cptsd
between someone who developed cptsd because of one of those three household
because of one of those three household Styles versus someone who developed
Styles versus someone who developed cptsd from a
cptsd from a combination um especially if all three
combination um especially if all three situations are yeah so I think the
situations are yeah so I think the answer is basically yes
answer is basically yes so here's the here's the thing to
so here's the here's the thing to understand about trauma so we know about
understand about trauma so we know about trauma is that trauma shapes you and we
trauma is that trauma shapes you and we know that the way that it shapes you
know that the way that it shapes you causes problems later in life that's how
causes problems later in life that's how we Define trauma so negative events
we Define trauma so negative events shape us all the time but if it doesn't
shape us all the time but if it doesn't cause a negative impact we don't
cause a negative impact we don't diagnose someone with like PTSD so
diagnose someone with like PTSD so there's research on things like
there's research on things like post-traumatic growth where you can go
post-traumatic growth where you can go through something traumatic and you can
through something traumatic and you can end up
end up positive now this is where like this is
positive now this is where like this is why I think the treatment of trauma is
why I think the treatment of trauma is fun right so like I find it clinically
fun right so like I find it clinically enjoyable I know it's kind of weird to
enjoyable I know it's kind of weird to say but like I find it intellectually
say but like I find it intellectually engaging I find I have a lot of
engaging I find I have a lot of compassion I find a lot of like growth
compassion I find a lot of like growth and it gives me like positivity to see
and it gives me like positivity to see people overcome their trauma so I find
people overcome their trauma so I find the experience to be very like enjoyable
the experience to be very like enjoyable gratifying um and what we know is that
gratifying um and what we know is that the way in which you're busted will
the way in which you're busted will shape the way you're busted right so
shape the way you're busted right so like if you have a combination of
like if you have a combination of different traumatic things that can
different traumatic things that can result in like something new or
result in like something new or something different or a combination of
something different or a combination of the above now I don't know that one is
the above now I don't know that one is necessarily worse than the other but we
necessarily worse than the other but we absolutely see like nuances of each of
absolutely see like nuances of each of these manifestations and that's very
these manifestations and that's very common um and so then it's just an issue
common um and so then it's just an issue of like seeing which manifestation is
of like seeing which manifestation is common when
common when so like learning to think about the
so like learning to think about the future again like we want to do that and
future again like we want to do that and we want to learn how to like reward our
we want to learn how to like reward our autonomy like we can do all of the above
autonomy like we can do all of the above it's not either
or so what if I don't have the safety to want to calm down I wouldn't be as safe
want to calm down I wouldn't be as safe anymore if I were calm so that's a very
anymore if I were calm so that's a very common experience of people who have
common experience of people who have been traumatized so if you look at uh
been traumatized so if you look at uh research on
research on trauma what we find is that the most
trauma what we find is that the most important thing for healing trauma is
important thing for healing trauma is safety so we don't talk about this much
safety so we don't talk about this much as clinicians when we lecture about
as clinicians when we lecture about trauma but basically we know that like
trauma but basically we know that like physical safety and even to a certain
physical safety and even to a certain degree emotional safety is very very
degree emotional safety is very very important so the first step to treating
important so the first step to treating any trauma is not emotions or anything
any trauma is not emotions or anything like that is actually physical safety
like that is actually physical safety that's number one and the reason for
that's number one and the reason for that is very simple if you're not
that is very simple if you're not physically safe your hypothalamus will
physically safe your hypothalamus will be pumping out something called CR CR is
be pumping out something called CR CR is corticotropin releasing
corticotropin releasing hormone the CR will go to your your
hormone the CR will go to your your pituitary glands and will release act so
pituitary glands and will release act so your pituitary will pump out act which
your pituitary will pump out act which will cause your adrenal cortices to pump
will cause your adrenal cortices to pump out cortisol as long as your you have
out cortisol as long as your you have cortisol and other kinds of sympathetic
cortisol and other kinds of sympathetic nervous system or stress hormones
nervous system or stress hormones floating through your system you cannot
floating through your system you cannot rewire and you cannot heal like
rewire and you cannot heal like physiologically it is very difficult to
physiologically it is very difficult to do so if we look at the role of these
do so if we look at the role of these stress hormones stress hormones aren't
stress hormones stress hormones aren't about picking up the pieces they're
about picking up the pieces they're about surviving and getting through the
about surviving and getting through the day so what you find in people who have
day so what you find in people who have an experience of trauma who don't feel
an experience of trauma who don't feel safe and aren't safe is that is very
safe and aren't safe is that is very hard to work on the trauma because their
hard to work on the trauma because their brain is is not in a neuroplastic state
brain is is not in a neuroplastic state so let's understand this
so let's understand this okay so our brain develops or becomes
okay so our brain develops or becomes increasingly neuroplastic when we sleep
increasingly neuroplastic when we sleep so if we look at like memory
so if we look at like memory consolidation we have short-term memory
consolidation we have short-term memory and we have long-term memory our
and we have long-term memory our short-term memory which is kind of like
short-term memory which is kind of like our Ram gets Rewritten into our
our Ram gets Rewritten into our long-term memory which is kind of like
long-term memory which is kind of like our hard drive when we sleep so we do
our hard drive when we sleep so we do this process of memory consolidation
this process of memory consolidation this involves a lot of neuroplasticity
this involves a lot of neuroplasticity because we're forming new
because we're forming new memories now if we look at
memories now if we look at sleep stress hormones impede sleep so
sleep stress hormones impede sleep so sleep is when we build a lot of tissues
sleep is when we build a lot of tissues and grow a lot of neuron I mean we don't
and grow a lot of neuron I mean we don't grow too many neurons but bdnf increases
grow too many neurons but bdnf increases brain derived neurotrophic factor I
brain derived neurotrophic factor I think increases in sleep as well so our
think increases in sleep as well so our brain rewires when we
brain rewires when we sleep when we're stressed out we it runs
sleep when we're stressed out we it runs against the sleeping signals so we have
against the sleeping signals so we have these Pro sleep states where we our
these Pro sleep states where we our brain does things like rewire heal and
brain does things like rewire heal and learn and then we have these anti-sleep
learn and then we have these anti-sleep states which is like survive stay awake
states which is like survive stay awake and
and survive and so we absolutely need safety
survive and so we absolutely need safety as part of the healing process so I
as part of the healing process so I think the first step to Healing trauma
think the first step to Healing trauma is creating
is creating safety now that becomes a little bit
safety now that becomes a little bit tricky because sometimes because of our
tricky because sometimes because of our the nature of our hyperarousal and the
the nature of our hyperarousal and the way our nervous system is wired the lack
way our nervous system is wired the lack of safety is not quite as external as we
of safety is not quite as external as we think it is I'm not saying it isn't I
think it is I'm not saying it isn't I mean there people who are in abusive
mean there people who are in abusive households where it's unsafe objectively
households where it's unsafe objectively but the the tricky thing about trauma is
but the the tricky thing about trauma is that we carry that lack of safety within
that we carry that lack of safety within us so there's a balance between creating
us so there's a balance between creating external safety and even when you create
external safety and even when you create external safety it's not like internally
external safety it's not like internally you'll feel safe right away so there's a
you'll feel safe right away so there's a process of of letting yourself rewire to
process of of letting yourself rewire to feeling safe as well great question
feeling safe as well great question we're going to take one
we're going to take one more
um when I was born I was left crying for two hours in an incubator before someone
two hours in an incubator before someone held me and took me to my mother I blame
held me and took me to my mother I blame my constant anxiety for
my constant anxiety for this so that level of specificity I
this so that level of specificity I don't really like have much comment on I
don't really like have much comment on I would feel feel very very surprised to
would feel feel very very surprised to learn
learn that that singular event is responsible
that that singular event is responsible for a persistent adult
for a persistent adult condition would be very
condition would be very surprised so the the other thing that we
surprised so the the other thing that we know is that isolated events in
know is that isolated events in childhood kids are quite
childhood kids are quite resilient so like the the cool thing
resilient so like the the cool thing about kids is that even if they go
about kids is that even if they go through a traumatic experience it is
through a traumatic experience it is very common for them to bounce back and
very common for them to bounce back and that's because like kids are their brain
that's because like kids are their brain is very neuroplastic even their body is
is very neuroplastic even their body is quite changeable right so like kids have
quite changeable right so like kids have their neurons can still grow in ways
their neurons can still grow in ways that adults can't they can create new
that adults can't they can create new neurons most of what happens is pruning
neurons most of what happens is pruning but you know so like the their healing
but you know so like the their healing capacity is way bigger because they're
capacity is way bigger because they're like not in read only mode they're still
like not in read only mode they're still in right mode so that like a lot of them
in right mode so that like a lot of them can children can heal very easily um so
can children can heal very easily um so I'd be surprised I'm not saying it's not
I'd be surprised I'm not saying it's not possible that's something to work
possible that's something to work through with a
through with a clinician um interesting thank you for
sharing um do we know if EMDR is effective for
um do we know if EMDR is effective for cptsd I personally think it is but
cptsd I personally think it is but there's a lot of controversy around
there's a lot of controversy around EMDR and we don't have many studies on
EMDR and we don't have many studies on what's effective for cptsd
uh so my problem has been so good at masking my cptsd that they don't find
masking my cptsd that they don't find the issue any tips as to opening up yeah
the issue any tips as to opening up yeah I'd start with the body right that's why
I'd start with the body right that's why we kind of talked about that like so I
we kind of talked about that like so I don't know if this kind of makes sense
don't know if this kind of makes sense but the way that we've outlined our
but the way that we've outlined our approach to trauma and especially in the
approach to trauma and especially in the guide the reason it's built that
guide the reason it's built that way is because we have gotten these
way is because we have gotten these questions over and over and over and I
questions over and over and over and I have this problem I have this problem I
have this problem I have this problem I have this problem I have this problem
have this problem I have this problem what about this what about this what
what about this what about this what about this what about this what about
about this what about this what about this what about this what about this so
this what about this what about this so what we did is took all those questions
what we did is took all those questions and say okay if we take all of these
and say okay if we take all of these questions how can we understand trauma
questions how can we understand trauma that accounts for all of these so why do
that accounts for all of these so why do we have a video about paralysis of
we have a video about paralysis of initiation and impulsivity because we
initiation and impulsivity because we recognize that there's an overlap
recognize that there's an overlap between the symptomatology of ADHD and
between the symptomatology of ADHD and Trauma we recognize that people with
Trauma we recognize that people with trauma have difficulties that feel like
trauma have difficulties that feel like ADHD so that's in there we recognize
ADHD so that's in there we recognize that people have difficulty opening up
that people have difficulty opening up we recognize that people have difficulty
we recognize that people have difficulty feeling their emotions that's why we
feeling their emotions that's why we start with the
start with the body right and that's why relationships
body right and that's why relationships is at the very
is at the very end so start with the
body okay um
how do I bring up cptsd up to my therapist I resonated with this topic a
therapist I resonated with this topic a lot but I feel like it's not my place to
lot but I feel like it's not my place to initiate the conversation there it is
initiate the conversation there it is right so
right so like I can
like I can say it's absolutely your place to
say it's absolutely your place to initiate the conversation that's your
initiate the conversation that's your job that's why you're going right you're
job that's why you're going right you're going for your benefit not the therapist
going for your benefit not the therapist benefit if it helps you by all means
benefit if it helps you by all means bring it up that doesn't work though
bring it up that doesn't work though right so one of the manifestations of
right so one of the manifestations of cptsd is you feel like it's not your
cptsd is you feel like it's not your place you feel like deferring to the
place you feel like deferring to the other person you feel like following
other person you feel like following someone else's
someone else's lead see when we don't have a
lead see when we don't have a well-formed sense of identity we don't
well-formed sense of identity we don't feel like we deserve very much it's not
feel like we deserve very much it's not my
my place when it's absolutely your place
place when it's absolutely your place like that's the definition of your place
like that's the definition of your place the the reason the therapy is the one
the the reason the therapy is the one place where you get to go for you and
place where you get to go for you and for no one else so whatever you want is
for no one else so whatever you want is fair game
fair game right I within reason it's like the the
right I within reason it's like the the therapist can say
therapist can say no but it's very common so notice that
no but it's very common so notice that notice that your desire to not even
notice that your desire to not even bring it up or your feeling that that's
bring it up or your feeling that that's not my place to bring it up could be a
not my place to bring it up could be a manifestation of the very problem itself
manifestation of the very problem itself and just notice that and then try your
and just notice that and then try your best to bring it
best to bring it up right you can even share so one last
up right you can even share so one last technique that I'll give you all is if
technique that I'll give you all is if you're having so this is like Pro
you're having so this is like Pro technique and therapy okay
technique and therapy okay so sometimes we feel embarrassed
so sometimes we feel embarrassed bringing something up because there's a
bringing something up because there's a lot of emotional energy here there's
lot of emotional energy here there's shame there's guilt there's like oh my
shame there's guilt there's like oh my God this kind of kinky thing kind of
God this kind of kinky thing kind of turns me on and like oh my God I have
turns me on and like oh my God I have these kind of
these kind of thoughts and so we have difficulty like
thoughts and so we have difficulty like tackling that emotion and being
tackling that emotion and being vulnerable so instead what I want youall
vulnerable so instead what I want youall to do is go one layer above
to do is go one layer above it so what you can say to your therapist
it so what you can say to your therapist is there's something that I feel ashamed
is there's something that I feel ashamed of that I don't feel comfortable
of that I don't feel comfortable bringing up with you so you go meta
bringing up with you so you go meta right so you're not bringing up the
right so you're not bringing up the thing you're saying this thing is hard
thing you're saying this thing is hard for
for me and then even if that's too hard you
me and then even if that's too hard you can go one level above I want to bring
can go one level above I want to bring something up with you I want to bring up
something up with you I want to bring up that I'm scared to talk about something
that I'm scared to talk about something but even that's hard to talk about so
but even that's hard to talk about so what we want to do is move away from the
what we want to do is move away from the emotion and put that out there right say
emotion and put that out there right say like even one step removed you don't
like even one step removed you don't have to talk about the shameful thing
have to talk about the shameful thing there's something that I'm ashamed of
there's something that I'm ashamed of that I don't want to talk about you can
that I don't want to talk about you can just say
just say that and then it's the therapist job to
that and then it's the therapist job to take over like that's what we're good at
take over like that's what we're good at right that's what we're trained for
right that's what we're trained for we're trained to help you do
we're trained to help you do that and even when we're like so is a
that and even when we're like so is a there's a good technique in therapy
there's a good technique in therapy called going mattera right so and and
called going mattera right so and and that's when when there's something like
that's when when there's something like so if someone says like hey I'm like I'm
so if someone says like hey I'm like I'm here for therapy I want to focus on this
here for therapy I want to focus on this but I don't want to talk about this and
but I don't want to talk about this and so what do we do in therapy we don't say
so what do we do in therapy we don't say okay okay screw you we're going to talk
okay okay screw you we're going to talk about that anyway because you don't want
about that anyway because you don't want to talk about it no what we do is help
to talk about it no what we do is help me understand why you don't want to talk
me understand why you don't want to talk about it totally fine we don't have to
about it totally fine we don't have to talk about it just can you give me a
talk about it just can you give me a little bit of
little bit of context
context cool and then you can bring it up later
cool and then you can bring it up later so then it's your therapist job to get
so then it's your therapist job to get there if you want to talk about it you
there if you want to talk about it you can say hey I want to talk about this
can say hey I want to talk about this thing but I'm too embarrassed and I'm
thing but I'm too embarrassed and I'm going to shut
um how do I explain my cptsd to a family member that has expressed that she wants
member that has expressed that she wants to help but doesn't really understand
to help but doesn't really understand the gravity of my
the gravity of my issues honestly like I'd send them this
issues honestly like I'd send them this video right so one thing that's starting
video right so one thing that's starting to
to happen is that people are starting to
happen is that people are starting to share some of our content like not for
share some of our content like not for themselves but like they're like you
themselves but like they're like you know we we had video about autism and
know we we had video about autism and gender identity we had a video about
gender identity we had a video about relationships with BPD with people with
relationships with BPD with people with borderline personality disorder we've
borderline personality disorder we've had and so we're seeing a lot of like
had and so we're seeing a lot of like sharing going on so you know a lot of
sharing going on so you know a lot of people struggle to convey what we convey
people struggle to convey what we convey don't convey it just share and like I I
don't convey it just share and like I I don't know if yall get this I cannot
don't know if yall get this I cannot remember the last time I know that like
remember the last time I know that like all content creators are like hey if you
all content creators are like hey if you like the video like subscribe and share
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men the male suicide or why therapy sucks for men there are a couple of
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videos that we've done lectures we've done streams that we've done where I've
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yall to like subscribe or share the only time I ask youall to do it is
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whole reason we do this and we store these is so that y'all can share it with
these is so that y'all can share it with other people so like if you don't know
other people so like if you don't know like if like let's say you watch a video
like if like let's say you watch a video about BPD and you realize holy crap I
about BPD and you realize holy crap I could have BPD this is what it's like to
could have BPD this is what it's like to be in my shoes I think you should
be in my shoes I think you should absolutely share that with someone who
absolutely share that with someone who you're in a relationship with and be
you're in a relationship with and be like H this person kind of explains what
like H this person kind of explains what my experience is like in a way that I
my experience is like in a way that I can't quite explain
can't quite explain it right or something about addiction or
it right or something about addiction or whatever like if you're if you're a
whatever like if you're if you're a gifted kid and your parents tell you
gifted kid and your parents tell you that you have all the potential in the
that you have all the potential in the world and if you just tried harder send
world and if you just tried harder send them more gifted kids a special needs
them more gifted kids a special needs video right so we're here as a resource
video right so we're here as a resource for your benefit that does not just mean
for your benefit that does not just mean you you're you're the only one that can
you you're you're the only one that can has to watch us so if we explain a
has to watch us so if we explain a concept in a way that it would be useful
concept in a way that it would be useful for someone in your life to understand
for someone in your life to understand then you should share our videos but
then you should share our videos but once again that's not so that we can
once again that's not so that we can increase our views by 0.001% that is
increase our views by 0.001% that is because it benefits you that's why you
because it benefits you that's why you should share or if it benefits someone
would you consider Spanish subtitles I think we're working on
um oh what a beautiful question so we're at time for the day but I'm going to
at time for the day but I'm going to leave yall with one last question that I
leave yall with one last question that I love uh there's two questions man these
love uh there's two questions man these are so so best meditation for trauma
are so so best meditation for trauma we're past time so I don't have time or
we're past time so I don't have time or energy to do meditation today for which
energy to do meditation today for which I apologize but in the trauma guide
I apologize but in the trauma guide we've got hold on a second let me tell
we've got hold on a second let me tell y'all we have a whole new stock of
meditations oh here oh damn it I just realized that people are telling
realized that people are telling me
um these are so good okay we're going to answer one
good okay we're going to answer one quick one one question then we're going
quick one one question then we're going to try to speed run a couple more so
to try to speed run a couple more so first thing is um what was I talking
first thing is um what was I talking about I don't even remember brain death
about I don't even remember brain death is setting in um oh meditations so we
is setting in um oh meditations so we have we have a bunch of meditations let
have we have a bunch of meditations let me
me count uh so we have at I think about 10
count uh so we have at I think about 10 meditations okay no one is an overview
meditations okay no one is an overview one two one two 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 there's
one two one two 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 there's 11 meditations in the trauma guide
11 meditations in the trauma guide um so definitely check those out I think
um so definitely check those out I think they're great they'll build on the
they're great they'll build on the existing meditations that we've taught
existing meditations that we've taught you all and I just ran into Will trauma
you all and I just ran into Will trauma ever go away quick answer to that
ever go away quick answer to that one possibly actually so we know that we
one possibly actually so we know that we know that like a lot of people will heal
know that like a lot of people will heal from trauma without any overt
from trauma without any overt intervention so the cool thing is like
intervention so the cool thing is like if you look at the body like the body
if you look at the body like the body and brain like heal that's what we're
and brain like heal that's what we're designed to do so the short answer is
designed to do so the short answer is it's very possible that you don't need
it's very possible that you don't need to do a damn thing and you'll just just
to do a damn thing and you'll just just it'll fix itself or your relationships
it'll fix itself or your relationships will organically fix
will organically fix it I wouldn't adopt that strategy
it I wouldn't adopt that strategy though
though um there's another question of how do we
um there's another question of how do we address the sources of trauma out in the
address the sources of trauma out in the world and who is responsible for doing
world and who is responsible for doing so that's a lovely question I love it
so that's a lovely question I love it love it love it love it love it it's Way
love it love it love it love it it's Way Beyond the scope of what we have time
Beyond the scope of what we have time for today so I think this is a oh
for today so I think this is a oh actually that's in the guide what am I
actually that's in the guide what am I saying so I was going to say so we can
saying so I was going to say so we can absolutely talk about it but I think
absolutely talk about it but I think Karma talking about karma is a very good
Karma talking about karma is a very good exploration of this topic so over on the
exploration of this topic so over on the membership side we had a couple of great
membership side we had a couple of great Karma lectures we talk about Karma and
Karma lectures we talk about Karma and the trauma guide because there is this
the trauma guide because there is this whole idea of like you know everything
whole idea of like you know everything we're talking about is fixing you but
we're talking about is fixing you but what about the outside world so I think
what about the outside world so I think that's a very important discussion but I
that's a very important discussion but I I don't think it's a short answer I
I don't think it's a short answer I think it's like a if we're going to talk
think it's like a if we're going to talk about it let's talk about
about it let's talk about it um
it um okay so can you recommend specific
okay so can you recommend specific meditation techniques there's 10 about
meditation techniques there's 10 about 10 of them in the guide um which by the
10 of them in the guide um which by the way is why we built a guide right
way is why we built a guide right because like I don't know if this makes
because like I don't know if this makes sense but there's no way we can get to
sense but there's no way we can get to even 1% of the questions that y'all ask
even 1% of the questions that y'all ask or even share with y'all 1% of like the
or even share with y'all 1% of like the meditations that y'all can try and
meditations that y'all can try and things like that that's why we build
things like that that's why we build these stock resources that are way more
these stock resources that are way more in depth I I don't know if this kind of
in depth I I don't know if this kind of makes sense but
makes sense but you know filming of the trauma guide is
you know filming of the trauma guide is like the
like the filming is a week of me showing up at a
filming is a week of me showing up at a studio at like 8:00 and leaving at 5:
studio at like 8:00 and leaving at 5: and cameras are rolling for like 9 hours
and cameras are rolling for like 9 hours a day for like 5 to seven
a day for like 5 to seven days and so it's it's like you know like
days and so it's it's like you know like in order to duplicate that I would have
in order to duplicate that I would have to stream for like 50 hours in a week so
to stream for like 50 hours in a week so I just can't do that like my voice
I just can't do that like my voice cannot handle it so that's why we build
cannot handle it so that's why we build these resources because there's just no
these resources because there's just no way we can get to everything but it's
way we can get to everything but it's very like and the reason we edit and
very like and the reason we edit and everything is so that like it's very
everything is so that like it's very high
high yield
um so how do you start to build your own sense of self I think it's first of all
sense of self I think it's first of all cleaning out negative emotions and then
cleaning out negative emotions and then starting to bring together emotional
starting to bring together emotional experiences into a new narrative there's
experiences into a new narrative there's a whole video about narrative and
a whole video about narrative and identity and constructing a positive
identity and constructing a positive narrative is something that can be
narrative is something that can be taught it is a skill and it is something
taught it is a skill and it is something that has been shown to improve uh
that has been shown to improve uh outcomes and Trauma so like narrative is
outcomes and Trauma so like narrative is an important part absolutely so there's
an important part absolutely so there's just a way to do it um how to not be one
just a way to do it um how to not be one of the 69% to resist trauma treatment
of the 69% to resist trauma treatment great question so remember that those
great question so remember that those people are not resistant to trauma
people are not resistant to trauma treatment they are resistant to a
treatment they are resistant to a particular intervention for a particular
particular intervention for a particular diagnosis and we know the cause for that
diagnosis and we know the cause for that resistance is a high level of
resistance is a high level of dissociation we have other things that
dissociation we have other things that improve
improve dissociation so there's a certain model
dissociation so there's a certain model of of trauma treatment called stare and
of of trauma treatment called stare and the whole model is based on first you do
the whole model is based on first you do this then you do this then you do this
this then you do this then you do this then you do this and when you do it that
then you do this and when you do it that way that's like a comprehensive approach
way that's like a comprehensive approach that checks most of the boxes and deals
that checks most of the boxes and deals with this concept of resistant to trauma
with this concept of resistant to trauma treatment is cptsd curable or do you
treatment is cptsd curable or do you have to deal with it for the rest of
have to deal with it for the rest of your life I personally believe that for
your life I personally believe that for I would say most people it is basically
I would say most people it is basically curable I know it's a bold statement I
curable I know it's a bold statement I may be
may be dumb I may be wrong but I personally
dumb I may be wrong but I personally believe that trauma for most people can
believe that trauma for most people can be cured I do not believe that for
be cured I do not believe that for schizophrenia so I think we know that
schizophrenia so I think we know that some of our psychiatric
some of our psychiatric diagnoses are
diagnoses are like Progressive and more biologically
like Progressive and more biologically driven so schizophrenia is a really good
driven so schizophrenia is a really good example of that
example of that one where but like trauma is different
one where but like trauma is different I've seen people basically be in
I've seen people basically be in complete remission or cure from cptsd
complete remission or cure from cptsd before
before um I'm 50 and never felt happy how long
um I'm 50 and never felt happy how long into treatment for PTSD will I be before
into treatment for PTSD will I be before I can start to feel the short answer is
I can start to feel the short answer is I don't know
so the other thing about trauma treatment is that your mileage may vary
treatment is that your mileage may vary so if we look at most
so if we look at most treatments they tend to be effective
treatments they tend to be effective somewhere around the 8we mark and you'll
somewhere around the 8we mark and you'll have some gains up until about the 16 we
have some gains up until about the 16 we Mark and then beyond that you can
Mark and then beyond that you can absolutely have gains but generally
absolutely have gains but generally speaking it takes two to four months for
speaking it takes two to four months for treatments to start to be
treatments to start to be effective that being said feeling
paper feeling happy is not necessarily one of the things
is not necessarily one of the things that we look
at in in trauma treatment right so we'll like measure some things but we don't
like measure some things but we don't necessarily look at happiness so like
necessarily look at happiness so like this is the kind of thing where
this is the kind of thing where you know the short answer is your
you know the short answer is your mileage may vary the slightly longer
mileage may vary the slightly longer answer which is super
answer which is super cool is complex post-traumatic stress
cool is complex post-traumatic stress disorder is an independent diagnosis
disorder is an independent diagnosis differences in hedonic and UD dionic
differences in hedonic and UD dionic well-being between p cptsd and PTSD I
well-being between p cptsd and PTSD I imagine that the answer to your question
imagine that the answer to your question is somewhere in this paper so what this
is somewhere in this paper so what this paper talks about is that there are two
paper talks about is that there are two kinds of Happiness there is dopaminergic
kinds of Happiness there is dopaminergic happiness and there is serotonergic
happiness and there is serotonergic happiness
happiness dopam energic happiness is what we call
dopam energic happiness is what we call hedonic hon Hedonism hedonic well-being
hedonic hon Hedonism hedonic well-being so this is like my ability to experience
so this is like my ability to experience pleasure UD dionic happiness is a sense
pleasure UD dionic happiness is a sense of contentment peace or internal
of contentment peace or internal happiness that is not tied to a
happiness that is not tied to a particular thing so if I
particular thing so if I like go on a roller coaster that will
like go on a roller coaster that will increase my hedonic happiness playing a
increase my hedonic happiness playing a video game will will increase my hedonic
video game will will increase my hedonic happiness watching pornography will
happiness watching pornography will increase my hedonic happiness because it
increase my hedonic happiness because it gives me
gives me pleasure but especially with things like
pleasure but especially with things like video games and pornography it can
video games and pornography it can decrease my UD dionic
decrease my UD dionic happiness so this is my sense of like
happiness so this is my sense of like peace and joy in
peace and joy in life unfortunately cptsd is associated
life unfortunately cptsd is associated with impairments in both and less of
with impairments in both and less of both so what we do know is that if you
both so what we do know is that if you get treated for this stuff those both of
get treated for this stuff those both of those indices will improve and what we
those indices will improve and what we also know is that in
also know is that in cptsd UD dionic unhappiness is more
cptsd UD dionic unhappiness is more profound than hedonic unhappiness so if
profound than hedonic unhappiness so if you have a history of trauma your
you have a history of trauma your ability to engage in pleasure is
ability to engage in pleasure is modulated or impaired but your ability
modulated or impaired but your ability to feel at peace and feel Joy in life is
to feel at peace and feel Joy in life is even more
even more impaired so the pleasure circuitry is
impaired so the pleasure circuitry is somewhat intact the sense of Peace
somewhat intact the sense of Peace circuitry is more screwed
circuitry is more screwed up so let's just kind of take a quick
up so let's just kind of take a quick look at I think I remember that
um see these findings indicate that core symptoms of
symptoms of cptsd Might hinder individuals from
cptsd Might hinder individuals from living fulfilling lives that's what UD
living fulfilling lives that's what UD dionic happiness is
dionic happiness is okay it's
okay it's bizarre so if you guys are
bizarre so if you guys are wondering so like putting together this
wondering so like putting together this deep dive first thing is for every hour
deep dive first thing is for every hour that I spend telling y'all about
that I spend telling y'all about something there's four hours of stuff
something there's four hours of stuff that I leave
that I leave out and this is like this is why I like
out and this is like this is why I like doing such a deep dive because it's like
doing such a deep dive because it's like cool because if youall ask a question it
cool because if youall ask a question it turns out there's literally at least one
turns out there's literally at least one paper that talks about happiness and
paper that talks about happiness and Trauma
Trauma right so the there's good news and bad
right so the there's good news and bad news here the short answer is how long
news here the short answer is how long will it take you to feel happy I would
will it take you to feel happy I would say give it at least 6
say give it at least 6 months but there are also other caveats
months but there are also other caveats there right because whether you feel
there right because whether you feel happy or not can be somewhat independent
happy or not can be somewhat independent of your treatment so I had a patient who
of your treatment so I had a patient who once came in and I treated them for
once came in and I treated them for major depressive
major depressive disorder and after about two years they
disorder and after about two years they said I don't feel like I've gotten any
said I don't feel like I've gotten any better and I was like well what do you
better and I was like well what do you mean by that because your life is
mean by that because your life is improved we've talked about all the
improved we've talked about all the things that have improved and he's like
things that have improved and he's like I still don't I still feel depressed
I still don't I still feel depressed every day and after tunneling down into
every day and after tunneling down into it that's when we realized this isn't
it that's when we realized this isn't depression this is
depression this is unhappiness and the presence of
unhappiness and the presence of depression is different from the
depression is different from the presence the absence of unhappiness the
presence the absence of unhappiness the these are two separate things the
these are two separate things the treatment of depression moves us towards
treatment of depression moves us towards neutral learning to be happy is its own
neutral learning to be happy is its own separate path this is often times more
separate path this is often times more along the spiritual line as opposed to
along the spiritual line as opposed to the clinical
the clinical line and in trauma that can be true as
line and in trauma that can be true as well and so if someone hasn't felt happy
well and so if someone hasn't felt happy we absolutely know that things like the
we absolutely know that things like the dorsal medial prefrontal cortex are
dorsal medial prefrontal cortex are impaired in cptsd which prevents people
impaired in cptsd which prevents people or makes it difficult for them to feel
or makes it difficult for them to feel positive emotions instead they feel
positive emotions instead they feel numbness when they go to a birthday
numbness when they go to a birthday party for them when they go to their
party for them when they go to their birthday party everyone is happy and
birthday party everyone is happy and celebrating and you're just like I don't
celebrating and you're just like I don't feel anything like it's not bad but I
feel anything like it's not bad but I don't feel
don't feel Joy and that's where there is the so
Joy and that's where there is the so treating cptsd will help with you dionic
treating cptsd will help with you dionic wellbeing
wellbeing absolutely but part of that treatment is
absolutely but part of that treatment is a little bit more spiritual and you can
a little bit more spiritual and you can do that on your own right so you can do
do that on your own right so you can do you can learn to appreciate you can
you can learn to appreciate you can start practicing gratitude there are
start practicing gratitude there are other ways to engage to increase your
other ways to engage to increase your happiness that don't have to do so much
happiness that don't have to do so much with cptsd now I suspect some of these
with cptsd now I suspect some of these techniques will be difficult for people
techniques will be difficult for people with
with cptsd because the parts of their brain
cptsd because the parts of their brain that normally these techniques would
that normally these techniques would activate May somehow be
activate May somehow be impaired so I I recently did a lecture
impaired so I I recently did a lecture on the Neuroscience of
on the Neuroscience of Enlightenment and that may be showing up
Enlightenment and that may be showing up on on one of our channels soon maybe
on on one of our channels soon maybe maybe not I'm not
maybe not I'm not sure but the short answer is your
sure but the short answer is your mileage may vary it is a very good
mileage may vary it is a very good question there's a lot at play between
question there's a lot at play between trauma and happiness and fulfillment
trauma and happiness and fulfillment treatment will
treatment will help but even if it doesn't help don't
help but even if it doesn't help don't give up I guess that's what I mean to
give up I guess that's what I mean to say that the treatment of an illness is
say that the treatment of an illness is not the same as creating happiness in
not the same as creating happiness in your life and sometimes that is an
your life and sometimes that is an independent
independent process and on that note we're at time
process and on that note we're at time for the day way past time so it's been
for the day way past time so it's been an absolute pleasure to be here today
an absolute pleasure to be here today with y'all um let me think
with y'all um let me think about I just want to show y'all a couple
about I just want to show y'all a couple of things before we close out so for
of things before we close out so for those of y'all that are joining us late
those of y'all that are joining us late we do have a trauma guide that is going
we do have a trauma guide that is going to be coming out soon that is available
to be coming out soon that is available for
for pre-order um I know we discussed a lot
pre-order um I know we discussed a lot of dense Neuroscience today so we're
of dense Neuroscience today so we're also improving things in that
also improving things in that Dimension so here we have
some of the trauma guide Graphics right so some of these
Graphics right so some of these complicated Neuroscience things that we
complicated Neuroscience things that we teach y'all we absolutely want to teach
teach y'all we absolutely want to teach y'all like we try to make it accessible
y'all like we try to make it accessible but we're not dumbing it down and I
but we're not dumbing it down and I think that the more that yall understand
think that the more that yall understand the difference between dorsal medial
the difference between dorsal medial prefrontal cortex emotions and amygdalar
prefrontal cortex emotions and amygdalar emotions the more in control of your
emotions the more in control of your life you'll be and in order to
life you'll be and in order to facilitate that understanding we have a
facilitate that understanding we have a lot of cool stuff coming down the
lot of cool stuff coming down the pipeline the trauma guide is made with a
pipeline the trauma guide is made with a lot of love so definitely check it
lot of love so definitely check it out thank youall very much for coming
out thank youall very much for coming here today um and then you know take
here today um and then you know take care of yourselves like don't give up
care of yourselves like don't give up it's not
it's not over like the reason it's it's
over like the reason it's it's reasonable to want to give up because
reasonable to want to give up because you can try really hard and things don't
you can try really hard and things don't improve makes a lot of sense I hear that
improve makes a lot of sense I hear that but it doesn't mean just because things
but it doesn't mean just because things have not improved does not mean that
have not improved does not mean that things are impossible so take car all
things are impossible so take car all happy weekend
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