Artificial Intelligence (AI) is a rapidly evolving and increasingly accessible technology that offers significant opportunities for personal and professional growth, time-saving, and enhanced capabilities, urging individuals, particularly women, to embrace it proactively rather than fear it.
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Women are adopting AI 25% less than men.
>> It has exploded. It has accelerated. And
I don't want to get left behind. I don't
want women in particular [music] to lean
back and get left behind.
>> My hope is that these groups see AI as a
source of agency and not of anxiety.
>> Let's start at the beginning. What is
AI? AI at its core is just a system
attempting to do a humanlike thing that
could be as crazy [music] as
self-driving cars, your Roomba in your
house. AI is actually so much more than
everything that we've [music] seen in
the last couple years. These systems are
so accessible. We have never had tech be
as accessible as it is today.
every single job that we already have
out there, marketing manager, legal,
[music] finance, will be AI supported
and you'll have a switch in the types of
things that you are doing.
>> Maybe instead of saying AI is coming for
my job, the reframe [music] is AI is a
part of my job. And if you're worried
about it, don't sit back. If you're
worried about it, this is when you lean
in. people that take [music] advantage
of it now are going to gain this
velocity that is going to be really hard
to catch up on in the next 2 years. If
you have not been using AI, use it. Not
because I'm telling you you have to use
it every single day or else, you know,
the world will explode, but I'm saying I
want your [music] voice in the conversation.
conversation.
Alli Miller, welcome to the Mel Robbins
podcast. Thank you for having me. I am
really excited to talk to you because I
know this is going to be a conversation
where I selfishly am going to learn so
much. This is a topic I've been dying to
have an expert on. I am so glad we could
pull you off all the stages where you're
speaking around the world and have you
here in our Boston studios. I would love
to start by having you tell me how is my
life going to be different if I take to
heart everything that you're going to
teach me today about AI and I put it to
use in my day-to-day life. If you take
everything that I'm about to share to
heart, you are going to learn how to use
AI, which is the most basic value that I
could deliver to you, you are going to
save time. You are going to get more
support that you need in your life, in
your work. You are going to expand your
capabilities and your superpowers and
you are going to be shocked by what you
can actually get done with these systems.
systems.
>> I love that because you talk a lot about
the fact that you can use AI and the
thing you're most excited about is that
it can help you become the best version
of yourself. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> You actually believe that?
>> 100%. Because I've seen it in my own
life. I teach millions of people how to
use AI. I've seen it in their lives,
too. Whether you are a 91year-old
grandmother, whether you are just out of
college and you're freaking out, not
even knowing what to do, I've seen the
change happen. So, I am sharing with you
every single thing that I've shared for
the last 10 years online, hopefully as
fast as humanly possible, and I can't
wait to share it. In addition to saving
you time, because I always want to do
that, right? Efficiency is key. There
are some transformational ways that you
can use AI to improve your life, to lead
the life that you want to be leading.
Whether that is getting research done on
a topic you've always been interested
in, whether that is developing a workout
plan in the way that you've always
wanted to do it, whether that is having
a better relationship with your kid, I
want you to live the life you want to be
living and not be held back by the
environment or context around you.
Let's start at the beginning. >> Great.
>> Great.
>> What is AI?
>> If I could give the most simple explanation.
explanation.
>> Dear God, please [laughter]
>> because it's overwhelming, Ally, like I
wanted you here because every time I
turn on the turn on the TV. I don't even
watch the TV. Every time I log on. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Especially YouTube. It's AI is coming
and the robots are going to kill you and
steal your jobs and we're doomed and
it's already out. And I'm like, well,
hold on a minute. I'm not even sure I
understand what it is and how to use it.
>> And so let's start at the baseline thing.
thing.
>> What is it and how does it work? Can you
just explain it for those of us that
kind of think we know?
>> Yes. So AI as an umbrella term has been
around for decades. The term AI was
invented in the 50s. Um, so AI at its
core is just a system attempting to do a
humanlike thing. Okay? That could be as
crazy as self-driving cars. That could
be your Roomba in your house. That could
be your spam filter in Gmail. All of
that counts as AI.
>> Don't come after my vacuum. That's
[laughter] all I've got to say. I don't
even have one.
>> Vacuum might come after you. We don't have
have
>> I don't want that. Okay. So, so any
so a you could think about AI as any
computer program that is attempting to
do what a human being typically does.
>> A system Yeah. attempting to do a human
thing. Whether it does it in the method
that a human does it kind of open for question.
question. >> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> But it's whether the end user upon
seeing the the final writing, the final
tweet, the final image, the final video
goes, "Yeah, okay. A human could have
done that."
Generative AI is a subset of that which
has also been around for decades. The
new thing now is good generative AI,
highquality generative AI. Generative AI
that changes the way that we might check
emails, write emails, or completely
build our business, right? Generative AI
is an AI system that is looking at big
amounts of patterns. Picture the whole
internet. Picture like all of Wikipedia
and a whole bunch of the internet thrown
into this model. And the model picks up
on patterns. And so it's looking at
patterns that we as humans are probably
going to miss out. It might be picking
up on every time you say the word zebra,
the word black and white tends to be
around that word. And horse tends to be
around that word, but penguin is nowhere
near it, right?
>> So it's picking up on a bunch of these
patterns and then it is using all of
that pattern recognition
>> to very awesomely generate net new
things. So it's not copying and pasting.
It's generating brand new stuff, brand
new images, tweets, emails, novels,
movies, blog posts, whichever. So
generative AI subset of AI where it
makes new stuff. So what about a plane flight?
flight?
>> What about a plane flight?
>> So in the old days, like 3 years ago.
>> Okay. [laughter]
Well, in the old old days, you would
call a travel agent, right? Then in the
next iteration of that, you would go to
the airline website. Yeah.
>> Then in the next generation, which is
where I am,
>> so I'm stuck in the kind of modern old
way of doing it, I go to Google. I go to
the Google and I put in my like flights
on a date and then I get a list.
>> But then when I get the list, I have to look
look
>> and pick out the flight.
>> You're not going to do that anymore.
>> Okay. What am I going to do? And can you
explain how AI is making my life easier? >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Go. Okay, let's say that the reason
you're looking up a flight, let's say
that you're planning a family vacation
or something. Yep.
>> Okay, instead of what we used to do for
the last 20 years when we've Googled
these things, right,
>> you would Google flights from Boston to
Atlanta, right?
>> You would then have to filter non-stop,
onetop, different airlines because you
got points there, points there, whatever.
whatever.
>> And you would still have to be that big
filter mechanism.
>> New age,
>> you're going to go into one of these
systems. it's going to have access to
the internet and instead of going pull
me all the flights from Boston to
Atlanta, you're actually gonna say, "My
family of five wants to go somewhere
warm in September. Uh, we are, you know,
thinking about Charleston, Savannah, but
we want to try something new. We're
thinking 3 days, maybe it's five. We've
already gone to, you know, Scottdale.
Here's three reasons why we liked it.
Here's two reasons we like Texas. Here's
four reasons we're thinking about
Bermuda. Uh, my, you know, son's
allergic to strawberries. my my daughter
really wants to stay hydrated, my other
daughter wants to do yoga, whatever.
You're going to be able to feed in that
amount of context and before you even
decide that you wanted to pick Atlanta,
it's going to act as that co-pilot
because you're bringing in all that context.
context.
>> So, in addition to it finding your
flights, which again, you could totally
Google that. I still Google things to be
clear. it in in addition to finding
those flights, it is going to help you
create an entire action plan around this
vacation. So it's basically going to
make a recommendation based on all the
things you told it and crunching all the
data and what other people have searched
for and given a thumbs up and thumbs down
down
>> based on uh not even things that people
have searched for based on just anytime
people have written about things that
are kind of similar to Atlanta or
Savannah or or someplace that is totally
not similar right a sauna it might be
some sort of relation where people go
okay in warm places maybe you do this
hobby instead of that hobby. So that
would be so helpful. It's incredibly
helpful. And what I think a lot of
people miss uh is that these systems can
add so much more action into your life.
It also immediately made me feel as a
mom [laughter]
because you're managing so many
different variables on anything that
you're actually searching for
>> that being able to turn all of those
concerns and variables and but this but
that but this what are the right flights
to get us to the same airport or train
station at roughly the same time. I felt
like a giant exhale. And one of the
reasons why I was so excited to talk to
you is it's already here.
We use it in just about every aspect of
the way that we work at the Mel Robbins
podcast and 143 Studios. And and
I have not
started using it
>> in my daytoday life.
>> Okay. And it is kind of everywhere. And
I noticed that, and maybe you notice as
you're listening to Ally or watching
this right now, that your phone needs
more updates than ever because every app
is having an update because it's got AI
in it. And so it's already here. And so
I was excited to talk to you because
it has exploded. It has accelerated. And
I don't want to get left behind. I don't
want women in particular to lean back
and get left behind. And I'd love to
hear what is the takeaway
for someone listening to this
conversation about the opportunity
that is available to you if you lean into
into
utilizing the power of this in your
day-to-day life. I like to think of it
in a couple different categories. The
obvious one that I think people read a
lot about and and pick up a lot more
quickly is the productivity side is
doing things that you're already doing
today faster.
>> Give me a couple quick examples.
>> Writing emails faster, writing blog
posts faster, taking your blog post,
creating a video out of it faster,
right? Like like the idea that just
speed and uh the the idea that we can
synthesize an article, right? All of
that is things that you would already be
doing. You'd already read the article,
but it's able to do it a lot more
quickly, okay?
>> Or and at at a bigger scale as well,
right? I can synthesize 10,000 pages in
a paragraph in like a minute.
>> That is the category of doing things faster.
faster.
>> Second category is doing things better.
>> And this is what everyone is missing out
on, which is yes, I could use it to to
cheat on my college essay. you're not
recommending that.
>> I am never going to recommend that. But
to think that you should not use AI in
that process might also be wrong. So
anytime that I'm coming up with like a
big plan, right? Let's say that I'm
coming up with a plan for how I want to
show up to this podcast. I might uh ask
AI to interview me and ask like go full
Mel Robbins on me and just say, "Hey,
ask me 20 questions to get out more
information that I can work from." I
might say, "Here's my plan. What are
five risks that I might not be thinking
about and what are ways to mitigate
those risks?" I might say, "What are 10
crazy ways to make this, you know, more
interesting?" And maybe it tells me to
bring a yellow pen cuz it's all male
branded. [laughter] And obviously
that's, you know, a small small example,
but your work can be so much better. And
I think so many people fall into this
productivity trap. And the third, which
is even harder to figure out, is doing
new stuff,
right? So, doing things that you're
already doing today, but faster. Things
you're already doing today, but better.
And then net new. Holy cow, can you even
believe I did that? And I'll give you
one example here just because it's
personal life. It's not, you know, lifechanging,
lifechanging,
right? When you hear it, but then you
hear a little bit of value around, you
go, "Wow, they really did that." woman
that I talked I joined like a maong club
in in New York. Obviously
>> my shout out to my mother. She taught me
ma. I'm I love the clicking noise and I
love playing it. Okay, so
>> heck yeah. You and your you know like
your mother and I are going to be best
friends. So this woman wanted to become
a better maong player because it allowed
her to bond better with these people in
this club. She used AI as a non-coder to
create an entire app to teach her how to
play maong to drill her on the tiles to
drill her on the you know combinations
so that she wasn't using her time buried
in this little notebook of the different
rules so she could spend that time
actually hanging with these people and
creating lasting friendships. So again
the AI component of that is not the
coolest part of that story. the AI
component, generating her own app,
building it in a couple days, and now
she uses it literally on the subway to
train. It allowed her to create more
value in her life
>> that could not exist as a non-coder
before. These systems are are so
accessible. We have never had tech be as
accessible as it is today. We've never
had the ability for non-coders to jump
in. And women are adopting AI 25% less
than men. And I just think about what
societal opportunities we're missing out
on, what economic opportunities we're
missing out on. It it is such a big jump
that people feel that they have to take.
And actually, it's really just about
opening up this thing, testing out a few
prompts, and just getting your feet wet.
Your gears are going to start turning,
right? Your listeners are brilliant
people. I read your comments. They are
brilliant, brilliant folks. It is all
about giving yourself the best chance of
being able to capitalize on these tools
and build the value that you want in
your life.
>> What do you say to the person who's
nodding along and is like, "That sounds
really cool. Never thought about how I
could use it to, you know, be faster,
better, or do things I never even imagined."
imagined."
but they're not sure
and they're kind of waiting for the
right moment to jump in and learn AI.
Ally, what do you want to say if that's you?
you?
>> 5 4 3 2 1. Right. You just I I I want to
dispel people of the myth that there is
perfection in our lives. Period. Right.
in our in our financial decisions, in in
the way that we decide to make dinner
that night or hang out with our kids
that day, we're we're waiting for
something that doesn't exist in our
lives. And so, at least when I look at
people that I look up to that are
successful, it's people who jumped in
and did the thing.
>> And I would also say that it's not a
it's not that big of a leap. The people
who are winning in AI are not these big
crazy risky decision makers. It's people
who are taking these quick little wins
and quickly iterating and creating a
little system of adaptability. It's
people who actually think a little bit
smaller and get those, you know, their
their feet wet. Here's how I think about it.
it.
I think about it like having a personal
executive assistant. Like all of the
things you wish somebody else could
handle, [laughter] whether it's, you
know, coming up with the perfect workout
routine if you want to have more defined
calves, learning a better walking loop
in your neighborhood when you only have
20 minutes. uh figure like I just feel
like there's so many ways you could use
it that I personally have only just
scratched the surface.
>> I think of there's like four interaction
modes that I think about and again most
people are stuck at step one and so for
the person listening please do something
to try one of these three others. >> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. Number one microtasker. That's
like the make a meal plan for these 20
people that are going out to dinner. Two
people are gluten-free. One person only
likes ham. Whatever. and you're going to
be able to very quickly do that. Um,
that might also be the flight search
example. [snorts] Number two is as a
real time companion.
>> Okay, what does that mean?
>> You can just pull up these systems and
be in a live video chat. And so, as an example,
example,
>> why would you want to do that? [laughter]
[laughter]
I went to a board game bar and my friend
and I had 45 minutes and I could have
spent 20 of those 45 minutes evaluating
every single game that existed and we'd
only have 25 minutes to play. Instead, I
opened up video mode and I am just
scanning through and I go, we have two
people, 45 minutes. I want an easy game.
I want to have fun. Tell me which one.
What you're saying is that you can open
up video mode, scan an environment, and
it's almost like having a guide and a
decision maker to help you assess what's
happening. Could you do that if you're
lost somewhere? Uh, it's scary. Good at
picking up on like locations, especially
if you're in something recognizable. If
you're in the middle of nowhere and
you're using Google because it has
Google Maps tapped in, it might be
pretty good. In general, I wouldn't
trust it for being honest. I would just
open up ways or Google maps or something.
something.
>> Gotcha. The I understand this is like I
think a lot of us have discovered the
ability to take a photo and then search
what's in the photo by putting it in a
search engine. You're basically saying
there's a second step where you can use
the video scanning or like open up the
video. I didn't even know this existed.
So already I'm like you can do that.
>> My so many people have ADHD.
my my willingness to get something done
goes crazy high when I know that I'm not
alone in that task, whatever it is. So,
I have been in a live uh video stream
with AI where I'm screen sharing what is
on my screen and I am navigating Etsy to
pick to pick out like the perfect gift,
right? And I'm just having a chat back
and forth, but it's like being in a
Google meet with an AI that can see
everything that you see. So, it's
literally the same as you typing in
>> the meal plan that you want, but instead
this is like open up your fridge and
scan it with the video AI mode and go
tell me what I can make with this.
>> I have an
>> I needed this 20 years ago.
>> We've [laughter] got
>> How do I turn this on? Like this is the
level at which I'm at.
>> So, I'll give you one example. I am a
terrible cook. Okay, everyone that knows
me knows this, but my sister told me
that cooking is just chopping things up
and heating things up. And so I'm trying
[laughter] to get better at this, but
the recipes part eludes me. And I take a
photo of my fridge, a photo of my
pantry, and I hit enter, and it tells me
exactly what I can make. It gives me a
couple recipes that are uh that have
ingredients that are missing, and it
tells me the exact grocery shopping list
that if I go to Trader Joe's, I can
grab. So that is something that has
saved me literal hours
>> and money
>> and money
>> and food that didn't go to waste [snorts]
[snorts]
>> 100%. I'm no longer that
>> emotions that I feel because I feel like
a bad person for wasting the food and
then I feel like an idiot for not being
organized enough.
>> I live in New York so this is a lot
easier for me to do. I'll walk down the
street and have an entire conversation
with an AI system. I will talk through a
problem just to be like devil's
advocate. Am I the Right? And I
will just talk through this idea as if
I'm on the phone call with someone. >> Wow.
>> Wow.
>> I can do this at 2 o'clock in the morning.
morning.
>> What's the third interaction type? So if
you've got the prompting now we have
sort of the live video voice thing real
time acting like an assistant like
helping you out here. Okay. What's the third
third
>> two others? You've got delegate which is
really happening right now where you can
give AI a 20inut task and it'll come
back to you with an answer. So, you
might say, uh, you know, let's say that
you're a teacher and, uh, you really
want to come up with a new lesson plan
for chemistry. You can say to any of
these agent tools, you can say, I'm a
teacher, you know, I want to be able to
pull off a new thing in chemistry. Uh, I
can upload screenshots upon screenshots
of all of the years of reviews that I've
gotten from students. I can feed it all
into the system and I can say I want to
come up with a new chemistry plan. Go
online, find me a hundred other examples
and create an entire spreadsheet for me,
an entire document summarizing this and
an entire pamphlet that designs the you
know PowerPoint around it so that I come
back to it 20 minutes later and I
already have this fully done report for me.
me.
>> Wow. So I am constantly delegating big
big planning tasks particularly things
that are rooted in research or data
entry because that's where AI is still
really good. You know what's super
exciting about that for anybody that has
>> typically kind of a business or a
anything that it's kind of just you
you're a realer
>> or you're a teacher or you're a nurse or
whatever it may be and you're like who
do I give this to? I need a website. I I
don't know how to I don't have anybody
to delegate it to. I don't have the
money to do that kind of thing. You're
telling us that there are tools
available now for free that are your
team that you can learn how to use
pretty quickly that can do all of this
work that for years you've had nobody
there to do. Whether it's social media
stuff, whether it's a business plan,
whether it's a website, whether it's an
app, whether it's a marketing plan,
whether it's analyzing what the realer
competitor that you hate is doing that
you want to do like all of it. It's like
a free research assistant.
>> And I think solopreneurs used to feel
like they were deserted on an island and
that no one understood them. They had no
help. Right? AI gives you 20% of a
marketing person, 20% of a customer
support person. We're still going to use
amazing video editors for stuff like
this podcast, right? But the average
person is now able to record themselves
for an hour, upload this video to a
tool, and immediately get 15 clips that
they can post. And those 15 clips come
already pre-cut, already captioned. I
know people that are taking their
Instagram videos and immediately turning
them into Spanish and posting those on a
second channel. The reach that you can
have, the impact that you can have has,
you know, increased by 20%, 10x,
whatever. And so many people aren't
taking advantage of it because I think
deep down they feel like it's wrong or
it's cheating or something like that.
But people that take advantage of it now
are going to gain this velocity that is
going to be really hard to catch up on
in the next two years.
>> What is the fourth interaction type?
>> Teammate, which for folks that might be
at bigger companies, uh for folks that
are, you know, maybe they're part of the
marketing department or something. Think
about, yes, you said they all had their
executive assistant. What if your entire
team just got a little helper? So, as an
example, you know, maybe you record all
of your meetings with one of these
tools. Suddenly, you can have an AI
system that is sending out automated
reports every single Friday morning to
your entire team going, "What did we not
do today? What's the status of this
project? What's the latest?" Cuz it's
able to grab from documents. It's able
to read Google Drive. It's able to look
at Gmail. And so, it is lifting up the
tide of your entire team. What is the
biggest mistake you tend to make when
you start using AI and how do you fix
this mistake?
>> I'd say the average person is not
bringing in enough context. >> Okay,
>> Okay,
>> they're coming into these systems and
they're going plan me a family vacation degrees.
degrees. >> Okay,
>> Okay,
>> who's your family? What vacations have
you taken before? Right? Or you're
coming in and you're you're let's say
you built you you're building a house,
right? Or you just bought a new
apartment and you come in and you just
say, "Help me fix my apartment. Help me
[clears throat] be more organized in my apartment."
apartment."
>> So, how would you do that with the
apartment? Cuz my daughter just moved
into a new apartment. Fantastic.
>> Every day I'm getting a call. Yep.
>> Overwhelmed. Because you forget that
when you move into an apartment, there's
not a spoon,
>> there's not a hanger, [laughter]
>> there's not a waste paper basket. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> And then it's overwhelming.
>> Yes. And so how would you use it?
Because you said the biggest mistake is
context. So I get it with the vacation
because you be like my kids are these
ages. This is many days. These are the
dates. This is what we like to do. So
the more context the more it could help.
How do you do the apartment?
>> So apartment. Let's say that you give,
you know, a photo of your apartment,
[clears throat] the square footage,
photos of your previous apartment,
concerns that you had about your
previous apartment. Ah, I didn't have
enough storage. I didn't have enough
place for my board games. I didn't get
enough natural light at my desk. Right?
So, you can share all that. You can say,
"And I'm also worried that someone's
going to walk in and see my bed unmade."
Right? Boom. Think about how how AI
might solve that. And uh I'm concerned
that people are going to think I don't
have enough furniture or that I have too
much furniture that I'm going to have
>> or how do I make it look like this is
full when I have 100%
>> like the money for a secondhand. Could
you actually say find me a couch? >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> I have this much money. Yes. scan online
that has delivery >> 100%.
>> 100%.
>> Oh my god.
>> I went to an AI system and I said, I
want to find a watch. I want to find a
watch that's less than $50 AI themed. I
only want it to be square or circle. I
don't like anything that's rectangle. I
only like black and gold. I need it to
be whatever. I give it 15 parameters and
I said go. It is working. And by the
way, I can see it working the whole time.
time.
>> Like the wheel is spinning.
>> No, because I'm literally watching it
navigate websites. Imagine that it goes
into another room and it, you know,
opens up the laptop and it just works on
its own. You're watching it, right? Just
like an IT person would like tap into
your computer. You're literally watching
it navigate and scroll and click and
>> wait, so is it controlling your computer?
computer?
>> It is controlling a virtual computer
that you're just watching like an observer.
observer.
>> Are there risks to using agent mode? I
mean, this sounds amazing, but I'm just
>> There are defin there are risks of
everything. The main risk to think about
would be let's say that you're saying I
want to buy a couch and at some point
you're going to go add it to my Wayfair
cart and I want to check out right or
I'm buying this thing from Ashley. How
do I give it my credit card?
>> Right? You're going to take over that screen.
screen.
>> Got it.
>> It's not looking in that moment. You
type in your credit card details and you
say, "Okay, I'm done." And the AI model
goes, "Sure." and you go, "Yeah, yeah,
yeah, I'm done." And then you come back
in and you keep going. So, anytime
you're logging in, anytime you're giving
financial details, that's going to be an
extra layer of concern.
>> But these systems are not tracking that
that remote control.
>> That is so cool. I I'm I don't want to
talk to you anymore. I want to go try
this. I
>> We can spin up the laptop right here. I
love this stuff.
>> I I It's pretty incredible. Um, as
somebody who's advised top companies and
even governments on how to use AI, what
is one simple trick that everybody
misses that would instantly save time
for you if you try this and it would
save time every day.
>> Can I give you two? One that is very
easy and one that's five. Yes, go for
[laughter] it.
>> Okay. The one that is very easy that
everyone can start with is having AI
interview you,
>> right? coming to it with a problem and
just saying, "I need to redesign my
apartment. I need to uh come up with a
plan on how to keep my mother
entertained when she visits." Right? You
come to it with a problem and then you
instead of coming with this whole long
prompt, you can say, "I don't really
know how to solve this problem. Help me
help you. Ask me 5, 10, 20 questions."
And then you're going to turn on
dictation and you're just going to talk
and complain and ramble and you're going
to say, "I'm thinking about this. I'm
worried about this. I tried this. This
didn't work. You know, here are five
things that I know I'm good at. Five
things I think I'm bad at. Three ways
that my boss is yelling at me. Two
people that I want to hire." Whatever
sort of context you need to bring in.
Ramble, ramble, ramble. Enter. I do this
when I'm at the hair salon, right? I
just have it ask me questions and while
I'm sitting there with the die on my
head, I just whisper to it for 20
minutes and I'm able to get four hours
work done in 20 minutes. That is a crazy
easy one, right? Go Mel Robbins mode. Go
Barbara Walters mode. Ask for AI to
interview you. Well, you know what's
interesting about it is first of all,
you keep reminding us the amount of
context you give it is critical and is
directly related to the value of the
information you're going to get back.
The second thing is is that what you're
doing when you take the time to think
through scenarios and you take the time
to get really present to either the
thing that you're worried about or the
thing you really want to achieve and
then you utilize a tool like this to
make yourself
smarter and more effective is you're
just using all of the foundational
psychological principles called if then planning.
planning.
you are using all of the things that
human beings have done forever. You're
just utilizing a data set to help you do
it faster and better. And then that
makes you more confident and more
equipped to go into the your real life
and follow the advice that feels right
for you. It's like practicing. It is a
brilliant view into this space because
so many people look at it as faster
Google when it's actually a prosthesis
for reinvention, right? There is so much
you can do with it that just searching faster
faster
almost feels limiting. I have this
postit on my desk that says, "Use AI to
become the person you want to be." And
it helps me get out of that productivity trap
trap
>> where again I'm just using it to write
emails faster or I'm just using it to uh
you know to find information. It reminds
me that the real challenge of these
systems is wait a second. How can I take
all the excuses that I've had over the
last I'm not going to say how old I am,
but like how can [laughter] I take all
the excuses and get rid of those
excuses? Right? If I had had this when I
was starting my business and I could go
to it and say, "How do I start an LLC?
What are the big concerns when I'm
picking a lawyer? How do I pick a good
accountant? what are 20 questions to ask
my first hire? I would have been in such
a better spot. And so again, it's using
AI to become that person that you want
to be. Not overrelying on it, not
misusing and abusing it, not lazily
offloading to it, but using it as that
method for reinvention, tool for reinvention.
reinvention.
>> Um, what if I work for an employer who
isn't using AI?
>> Prepare to quit. Like we are 3 years
into the AI revolution
and if your employer is actively banning
this technology and in 3 years has not
yet carved out a safe responsible AI
policy that allows them to use it in the
work, you are at a massive disadvantage
for your work, your life, your career.
You're going to be less hireable in your
next couple roles. You know, maybe if
you're in manufacturing or plumbing or
HVAC or something, it's fine. I'm
talking about the knowledge workers who
could be leveraging this. Your company,
whether they're doing it intentionally
or not, they are putting you at a
massive disadvantage for the next
several years of your career. For that
person, I would say learn AI, raise your
hand, try and have AI, you know, be at
that company and say, can I lead it? Can
I take on the first project? Right?
That's an opportunity to be a big leader
in your org. If you are met with no and
they say I don't want to use the tool, I
don't trust it. You can't take on that
project. Leave your company. And I know
that that sounds like a privileged
statement and it it is to a certain
degree. You need to make a plan to do
that. Even if it means leaving and
working for yourself and being a coach
that uses AI, that is able to be more
efficient and is able to have more
clients that they can help. But we we're
three years into this. A year into it, I
wouldn't have said that. Three years
into it, I'm saying it.
>> Um, okay. We hear the call. We need to
leave now. I'm looking for a job. What
is the best way to use AI to help me
find a job that I love?
>> Number one is I would describe to AI
what you have done in the past and talk
through all of your previous roles.
Describe the tasks that you took on and
very specifically the tasks you liked
and didn't like. I don't care if you've
been a a accountant for the last 9
years. Maybe you don't want to be an
accountant anymore, right? So, this is
an opportunity to give all that weird
nuance that you can't really give into a
Google search. So, what have you done?
What tasks have you taken on? What did
you like? What did you not like? What
were the concerns you had at previous
places? What types of companies do you
enjoy? Big companies, small companies.
Um, what what entices you about, you
know, going into the office every five
days, uh, going to the office five days
a week, working from home the whole
time, uh, remote and you get to fly to
Italy once a month, or never traveling
because you're afraid of planes,
whatever the thing is, you want to add
in all that context. And then you're
going to say, "Give me three jobs that I
am a, you know, perfect perfect fit for.
Give me five jobs that you think I could
be a fit for if I just told the right
story. Give me five jobs that I could be
a perfect fit for if I just took a
couple, you know, courses, Google
courses, Microsoft, LinkedIn, whatever
courses. And give me five jobs that you
think that I really, really want to
reach for, but would be absolutely nuts
if I went for it and would take me a
year to make that pivot into, right? And
maybe that's going to tell you to go to
a big boot camp or get your masters in
some degree. That is the type of action
plan that you can get with AI. Once you
get that back, you're going to then
say,"Great, here's my resume. What are
20 changes I should make? What are 13
ways that I'm missing out on on making
this the perfect resume?" Go out and
find 150 examples of great resumes. Go
and find 20 blog posts from Google,
Microsoft, or from KPMG or BCG, wherever
you want to get hired, and have those
blogs synthesized. Give me five best
practices and give me exactly how I
should edit my resume. Great. Now you
have an updated resume. Now you have a,
you know, stronger action plan. Even the
way you're going to do the writing and
the outreach is going to be AI
supported, is going to be AI first,
right? How can I make a splash and work
for you, Mel? Maybe it's going to tell
me to show up at your offices and sing a
telegram, right? Like, we don't really
know. But you can ask for ways to stand
out. You can ask for ways to pitch
yourself. You can ask for ways to create
your narrative. and and even when you're
in the interview, you know, what are 20
questions I can ask this person to stand
out. Every little part of that job
search process can be AI first. And then
of course, being someone that knows how
to use AI is going to make your resume
that much stronger.
>> Sitting here listening now, I'm going
now I know I'm not getting hired by
anybody because I'm not doing any of
those [laughter] things.
But seriously though, isn't it also
important because doing all that
optimizes your resume to be scanned by AI?
AI?
>> Yeah. There's a weird there's this weird
um AI eating AI moment.
>> Uhhuh. that,
you know, even when we're shopping for
things online, if I have an AI agent
shop for me and the car brand that I'm
trying to buy from has an AI agent
answering all of its sales questions,
what are we doing? It's two AI agents
acting as proxies for these people
talking to one another. So, it can feel
very weird when you are creating things
with AI that is then read by an AI. What
I what I also want to advocate for is
there are so many ways to stand out that
have nothing to do with tech and online
application whatever. You could, you
know, have AI help coach you through how
to ask a common friend for an
introduction. A lot of people feel very
uncomfortable around that. Have it coach
you through that moment of discomfort so
you can push back, right?
>> There are so many ways that you can use
AI in the process, not just doing the
work for you, writing your resume. And
so having it coach you to ask for that.
Um having it help you
post on LinkedIn and say, "I'm sorry, I
got laid off. I'm in a situation where I
have these skills and I need help. I
don't usually ask for help this
publicly, but I need you." You've never
written that post before. AI can find a
thousand people who have posted that
before and can help you get through that
obstacle, that friction so that you can
get the life you want. I love that
because you're right. All of the things
you just walked us through will help you
leverage it for positioning yourself,
but you keep reminding us that AI can
also be this coach almost that can help
you do the preparation, figure out how
to have the conversation, uh practice
the interview so that you're preparing
so that when the real life stuff
happens, you've actually prepared. Yeah.
Like using it that way is almost more
important because you're not hiding
behind it. You're using it to help you
be more of yourself and to be a better
communicator and be more effective.
>> Yes. I think there's a lot of online
discourse that AI is is ruining our authenticity
authenticity
>> when there are some people that could
lean into using AI and actually help you
live a more authentic life. I'm I'm a
weirdo in my life. Like I organized this
like big dumpling taste test for my
friends. I had a a friend who's a
violinist come play and all of us laid
down on the ground and just stared up at
like fake stars that I put up on the
ceiling. Like using AI to come up with
like weird whimsy ideas cuz Google is
not going to be able to do that. You can
live a more authentic life. Again, I'm
not offloading to AI. I'm having it
support me in the way that I want. So, I
think that's such an important idea
because I'm still bringing myself into
all these conversations, all these
relationships, my job, my client
conversations. You still have to be the
person who's authentic, the person who's
confident, the person who's earning
trust. You're not going to until we have
brain computer interfaces, it's still
you. No matter how much you're using AI,
>> I I would love to know, are there topofminds
topofminds
for caregivers
to use AI? M
>> to save time or find support and help
that you can that you've heard of that
you can think of.
>> Absolutely. First, let me say there's an
AI use case for everything.
As a caregiver, one of my followers sent
me an entire app that he built out.
Again, does not require code. He is not
a coder. He is just someone who played
around enough to make this thing work. Okay.
Okay.
>> It summarizes all the emails that he
gets from his school, from his kids school.
school. >> Y
>> Y
>> so that he knows exactly what's
happening at the school. It summarizes
every week. It gives him a calendar. It
gives him action items. Okay. It even
looks at the emails that he gets from
his partner to be able to put that into
the summary. And every single morning,
automated, it gives him a summary to
look at. And so the caregivers that I
meet with, whether they're looking
after, you know, children or family
members or friends that they've taken in
or parents, there is just so much noise.
And for whatever reason, we've decided
it's a good idea as society to have like
20 different sources for this noise.
>> AI can act as a really strong
synthesizer that can pull in sources and
can summarize things for you and make it
digestible and can automate that sort of
check-in. Is there a particular prompt
that if the if you're listening and
you're like, "Okay, what's a problem
you're dealing with?" Whether you have
to um plan the first birthday party for
your kids and you're newly divorced and
you need advice or you are asking for a
raise at work and you're scared to do it
or you have a neighbor that plays their
music really loud and you don't know
what to do or as it was me this morning,
I couldn't turn on my new Dyson blow
dryer. Right? [laughter] So like there
is a problem that you have.
It could be anything. What is the prompt
that you would recommend to the person
that is leaning into this for the first
time that helps you dip your toe into
the water to solve something big or
small that you have in your life?
One structure that you can use is I'm a
blank who's trying to blank. And by the
way, these blanks are long bits of content.
content.
>> I'm a 57year-old woman and mother of
three who is trying to turn on my hair
dryer and I can't figure it in the
hotel. [laughter]
>> And I'm trying to right turn on that
blowd dryer. I have tried plugging it
into multiple outlets. I have tried
hitting the reset button. I have tried
turning it off and on. I am nervous that
I'm going to electrocute myself.
>> Okay. I have doublech checked the
manual. Right. You can give it things
that you've tried before, things that
you want to do, things that you're
worried about,
>> um methods that you things that you
might want to get done. Really, all I
want to do is curl my hair, right? And
then you can say,
not just what's the answer, right? And
maybe blow dryer is one where you just
might say what's the answer, right? But
if it's something more complicated,
you're not just going to say, "What's
the answer?" You're going to ask for
tons of options for answers.
>> Got it?
>> And then you will also ask the AI to
rank and score the answers. >> Got
>> Got
>> so you might be uh you had said yelling
at your neighbor.
>> I can give I can give you an even more
profound example. You're a caregiver
>> for your aging parents. Dad is
succumbing to dementia. Your three
siblings who live in different places
are not helping. You're at your wit's
end. That sounds like a problem. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> So you write in there, I am a, you know,
whatever caregiver and this is the
situation and this is what I'm looking
to solve and what are all the different answers?
answers?
>> Yes. And you can go crazy deep into
these prompts. In addition to asking for
the answers, you can also say, "What are
five ways I should even think about this problem?"
problem?"
>> Right? And help me solution in each of
these ways. You might say, "I've already
tried these three problems. here's how
it blew up in my face. Give me new ways
of approaching this. You might say, "I
think I already know the answer to this
problem. Give me three ways this might
go wrong." So, you're going to bring in
that context things just about yourself,
about the situation, the context that
you're in, the environment. It is a
different solution for every little
problem. And the joy that I have when I
use these AI systems is I tell it how
weird and unique my situation is because
there's no way that you could help me in
my unique situation. I am a perfect
little unique thing. No one's ever lived
this life. And it helps me think through
that problem.
>> Let's talk about accuracy. So where is
the tech at this point? It's 2025 in
terms of just general AI and
accuracy of what it's spitting back to
you. I I I'll give you a example. Last
week, if you uh did a search for me, you
would find out I was divorced, that I
drive a Lamborghini.
There would be all other kinds of things
that are untrue.
the accuracy of these systems. Right
now, the best models have a
hallucination rate.
>> A who?
>> Yeah, let's first. Yeah, good call. Good call.
call.
>> Hallucination rate. [laughter]
>> It's like taking Iawasa or mushrooms.
>> Just making things up.
>> So, so when we talked about how these
systems are trained, right? We said give
it tons and tons of like millions of
gigabytes of information.
>> Okay. So the first thing is that these
systems were not trained to be factual
regurgitators. So the fact that it's so
accurate all the time, even with these
couple mistakes, the fact that it gives
answers that outperform PhDs is actually
pretty miraculous.
The remainder of it when it does
hallucinate, we're getting uh to the
point where models have a about 1%
hallucination rate. meaning like you ask
it 100 questions and maybe 1% of the
time it doesn't answer it on the first
or one of the first 50 tries uh
different benchmarks whatever but
hallucinations have dropped a lot
>> wait so is hallucinations
just a term for it's wrong
>> it's just it's it's when AI is spewing
incorrect stuff that it's just like
maybe Mel has a Lamborghini like
>> we're calling it hallucination
>> well what I like about what you just
said cuz now I get it
>> is you're doubling pulling down on the
fact that it's not quote fact, it's information.
information.
>> And there are ways to increase the fact.
So you can give it access to the
internet so that things are cited and
you can check the sources. You can then
check the source of the Lamborghini
thing and prove it.
>> So it's got to guess. So if it's asking
for a car, it doesn't know. It might be
like, well, based on what we've heard
and the fact that she has this, I don't
know. We're feeling Lamborghini, not
pickup truck. I don't know.
>> Whether you knew it or not. Yes.
>> You just said something that took
researchers years to figure out.
>> What do you mean?
>> It we're just now seeing research around
this space of why do we get things
wrong? Okay. Knowing that there are ways
to improve it. We can ground it in
information. We can uh use more
state-of-the-art models. Um we can give
it access to the internet, check
citations, all this stuff. Yep.
>> Why does it still BS us? Why does it
still hallucinate? You just hit the nail
on the head which is we told these
systems be helpful to me
>> and these systems converted that task
and said oh you want me to be helpful
you want me to always answer because
when I say I don't know that's not
helpful to you. So because these systems
were not given an off-ramp to say you
know they don't they're not allowed to
say I don't know because you have
trained them you've rewarded them
>> by [clears throat] answering you
>> you know I want to ask you as one of the
world's leading experts on AI you're
speaking on stages all over the world
you're a consultant to brands that
people really trust what are you most
concerned about as this technology
technology picks up speed.
>> The first is the pace of change in AI.
>> And I think it's really important to
just level set on the type of acid
reflux that even people in AI are feeling.
feeling.
>> I've started in AI almost 20 years ago
and the pace of change is is even faster
than I would expect and that people in
the field are expecting. Education
heavily concerns me. The fact that
companies have not yet leaned in and
skilled up their employees, that's a
really big one. The fact that parents
have not leaned in to have these open
conversations with their children about
the risks about mental health risks,
about over reliance, about
misinformation, about cheating on
schoolwork. I want more real talk
happening in in homes, in schools, in
work, on the subway. I want that. I
think there are also very real concerns
about data privacy and data use. I think
there are very real concerns about the
environment and how much energy or or
water usage um these models or full
systems are are using
>> and you and just if you don't if you're
not tracking with that it's because they
have to be powered by something which
means cloud and server farms are powered
by something
>> creating the ice that is in this water.
doesn't live in the air. It's actually
on a computer server somewhere. So
>> we call it the cloud, but really that
means the data center.
[laughter] Yes, exactly.
>> And so these these these concerns are
very very real. Um, there are some stats
that have been shared by these
companies. And I think one is by leaning
into these systems and by being a user,
you get to have a voice in these
conversations and you get to be a, you
know, a a voice and say, "I've used it
and here's what I've seen and here's
what I think is stupid and here's what I
think is great."
>> That's true.
>> You get to be a a loud active
contributor. And again, a concern is
that there are going to be some people
listening to this podcast around in the
world who are going, I'm hesitant to use
this and their voices are going to be
lost in the conversation. I'm so glad
you're saying that because I will
personally say that I do fall into the
camp of believing that this is the
single biggest innovation,
tech, human
revolution that we will experience in
our lifetime that we can't even
comprehend how it's going to change life
for the better and in some ways for the
worst in the next 10 years, but more for
the better. And I appreciate you
connecting the dots and saying this is
here. It's accelerating. And if you
don't understand how to use it in your
day-to-day life, you don't have a voice
in demanding more regulation or
demanding that things get labeled as AI
generated or you know if we are creating
tools that create can create things then
we should be creating tools that can
also police things.
>> And so I really see the connection
there. And if you're worried about it,
don't sit back. If you're worried about
it, this is when you lean in.
>> I am also in the camp that some of these
concerns are made a little bit more
dramatic than they actually are and that
demanding more transparency and
documentation from these providers has
been very fruitful in in uh shedding
more light on that. Video streaming for
an hour versus AI chat for an hour. You
want to guess the energy consumption,
the comparison? zero idea. I have I
didn't I don't I'll be honest with you.
I don't even think about this
>> cuz I'm thinking it's coming from my job,
job, >> right?
>> right?
>> You know, I'm not even thinking about
the larger implications of this.
>> There are two things that are true at
the same time. It is absolutely a
concern. We should be voicing our
concern for it. We should be asking for
more transparency and documentation from
these players, from these builders. And
it is not as dramatic as people make it
out to be. We can compare it to video
streaming. video streaming uses over 4x
the energy of AI chat for the exact same
amount of time. So,
you know, using Netflix less and and
chatting with AI, that might actually be
a trade-off that's good.
>> What do you want to say to somebody,
Ally, about the fear that AI is coming
for my job?
>> I think we will have job loss because of
AI. We need to be very, very honest
about that. Um, and I don't know at what
scale and I don't know on what timeline,
but I feel strongly that I should say
that out loud to be a responsible
citizen. The second is that every single
job that we already have out there,
marketing manager, legal, finance will
be AI supported and you'll have a switch
in the types of things that you are
doing. And so maybe if you are a
marketing manager, let's say, and right
now you are writing a lot of copy, you
are constantly going back and forth and
checking on stats,
>> you might have an AI that is literally
just constantly checking your metrics
for you and flagging when things are out
of sorts and offering 20 potential
solutions that you could pick one of or
you could say, I know my business better
than you. I'm going to pick the 21st. So
the job of each person is going to shift
right even even in legal. I know people
who are using it to do contract
comparisons or or clause like risk
analysis. Hey and this by the way as a
solarreneur I do this too.
>> Well maybe instead of saying AI is
coming for my job the reframe is AI is a
part of my job.
>> AI will be a part of everyone's job. AI
is coming for some jobs and there will
be new jobs because of AI. Can you
unpack why women are slower to adopt AI
than men?
>> I think a lot of people in AI are men
and so when you're looking at people
talking about it, uh, it's going to be
largely men. And so there's going to be
a little bit more of like, ah, that
future's not for me. That's the, you
know, tech bros or whatever. So one is
just that they don't see people like
them. Uh that is one reason why I spend
every waking minute trying to share more
information and make this world more
accessible and why I've educated
millions on this space. So one is is
this future for me?
>> That also means that the use cases that
are shared might also not be as relevant
like women more often are taking on care
for others, care for their children,
care for you know aging parents, uh
teachers and so those stories are just
told less. And so we get into this toxic
flywheel of those stories not being
told. We also maybe have like but again
it's it's anecdotal but when I speak at
conferences I am more often asked about
data privacy and environmental concerns
from women. [clears throat]
And again I want to give a path forward
to those folks that feel that hesitancy.
And there is a very fast way of of
finding action there. I'm going to give
this as a tip. Okay, I want everyone who
feels this way about AI that you're
worried about data privacy or you're
worried about maybe environmental usage.
You can download an open-source small
model and you can run it on your
computer. It will never go into the
cloud. It will only live on your laptop.
The only electricity that is used is
downloading it and the energy that your
laptop needs. It's a smaller model, so
it's also going to have a smaller
footprint. I am able to use AI in the
skies with no internet access because of
this local deployment. So that is a
path. If you are still hesitant, please
try out small local models. You can do
it in less than 5 minutes.
>> You know, Ally, one thing that I saw a
couple months ago was kind of the first,
it wasn't really a study. You probably
know more about this. It was done here
in Boston at MIT and it was the first
look at cognitive decline
>> of people using AI and the results were
alarming like there was a significant
decline in people's like brain power
that's not the scientific term which
basically in my layman terms I read that
and was like oh my god people are
getting stupider using this their brains
are rotting and it wasn't a clinical study
study
But it was looking at people overly
relying on AI and the impact it has with
your thinking skills and your brain
power. Is there such a thing at this
point that we know of or relying too
much on AI? Over reliance is a risk of
many tech systems including AI. And that
study I think thankfully illuminated a
key point which is yeah if you use these
systems lazily you're going to get lazy.
So in the same way that we uh still
teach our children math even though they
have calculators. We still need to teach
our children taste, curation, critical
thinking, creativity, writing, you know,
uh the ability to to cast judgment on
whether a a fact is right or wrong. We
still need to teach children that. That
study was about people using AI to write
essays. And the outcome was that people
couldn't remember what they wrote in an
essay. Of course, you couldn't remember.
Just like you didn't write it. [laughter]
[laughter]
Exactly. And if the goal is to be able
to remember what you write, then yeah,
you should still do the writing. You can
still use AI to interview you to get
more information out. You can use AI to
review it from the viewpoint of Abraham
Lincoln or Mark Zuckerberg or whatever. You can have AI review it
You can have AI review it >> and make it better.
>> and make it better. >> Got it.
>> Got it. >> So using there there is a a spectrum of
>> So using there there is a a spectrum of right and wrong ways to use AI. There is
right and wrong ways to use AI. There is a
a role that humans play in our world which
role that humans play in our world which is bringing heart and empathy into
is bringing heart and empathy into situations.
situations. There are things that I also think are
There are things that I also think are gray area that some people have said,
gray area that some people have said, "Hey, I'm going to do this." I've heard
"Hey, I'm going to do this." I've heard of people using AI to write obituaries
of people using AI to write obituaries or or statements at a funeral.
or or statements at a funeral. >> If you go to a wedding, a lot of the
>> If you go to a wedding, a lot of the speeches sound the same.
speeches sound the same. >> Absolutely. Right. let's delve into
>> Absolutely. Right. let's delve into their relationship of the landscape of
their relationship of the landscape of the tapestry of love, right? That could
the tapestry of love, right? That could be a gray area. I think honestly one of
be a gray area. I think honestly one of the biggest takeaways that I've had over
the biggest takeaways that I've had over the last seven years in, you know, the
the last seven years in, you know, the geni space
geni space is that urgency is creating toxicity. M
is that urgency is creating toxicity. M >> if you are under the gun, you have to,
>> if you are under the gun, you have to, you know, write this report, you have to
you know, write this report, you have to write this essay, it's 5 minutes before
write this essay, it's 5 minutes before the wedding, you forgot to write the
the wedding, you forgot to write the speech,
speech, >> that is when you're going to lazily
>> that is when you're going to lazily offload and abuse these systems and not
offload and abuse these systems and not get the great writing out of it and not
get the great writing out of it and not speak from the heart um and not build a
speak from the heart um and not build a better relationship with your friend
better relationship with your friend that's getting married. So, I think the
that's getting married. So, I think the more that you can do to eliminate
more that you can do to eliminate urgency, which as a procrastinator is
urgency, which as a procrastinator is absolute hell, is going to help you use
absolute hell, is going to help you use these systems
these systems in the way you want to use them. Again,
in the way you want to use them. Again, there are going to be some people in
there are going to be some people in that gray area that still say, "Hey,
that gray area that still say, "Hey, that's fine." And and that's everyone's
that's fine." And and that's everyone's prerogative is to have that voice in
prerogative is to have that voice in this conversation. But urgency and
this conversation. But urgency and removing it is going to help you make
removing it is going to help you make better work, use AI more responsibly.
better work, use AI more responsibly. You know, when you think about AI long
You know, when you think about AI long term, what excites you the most?
term, what excites you the most? Seriously, what what like how do you
Seriously, what what like how do you like first I want you to talk about what
like first I want you to talk about what excites you the most and then I'd love
excites you the most and then I'd love you to talk to me and to the person
you to talk to me and to the person that's listening and watching about what
that's listening and watching about what might be coming in the coming months.
might be coming in the coming months. Two things that excite me and they're
Two things that excite me and they're very closely related. Number one is the
very closely related. Number one is the accessibility of these tools is only
accessibility of these tools is only increasing. So two years ago you had to
increasing. So two years ago you had to be this like perfect prompter. Now you
be this like perfect prompter. Now you can like kind of type a couple sentences
can like kind of type a couple sentences and it gives you a really strong strong
and it gives you a really strong strong output.
output. >> You can also speak to it. You're saying
>> You can also speak to it. You're saying >> you can also speak to it.
>> you can also speak to it. >> You can also film and upload photos to
>> You can also film and upload photos to it.
it. >> Yes. There are so many ways to interact
>> Yes. There are so many ways to interact with these systems.
with these systems. >> Okay. So the accessibility and to me the
>> Okay. So the accessibility and to me the inevitable downstream impact of more
inevitable downstream impact of more accessible systems is that people that
accessible systems is that people that are that are burning inside with this
are that are burning inside with this amazing idea that they've never been
amazing idea that they've never been able to accomplish or this problem that
able to accomplish or this problem that they wish they could have solved seven
they wish they could have solved seven years ago or this kid that they want to
years ago or this kid that they want to you know bond with more or parent that
you know bond with more or parent that they want to help more. There is
they want to help more. There is everyone has this like burning thing
everyone has this like burning thing inside. It might take a little bit to
inside. It might take a little bit to figure out what that is, but the ability
figure out what that is, but the ability to accomplish that thing that those
to accomplish that thing that those obstacles are dropping
obstacles are dropping >> very quickly. We are going to have
>> very quickly. We are going to have billion-dollar companies with a couple
billion-dollar companies with a couple people and we might see billion-dollar
people and we might see billion-dollar companies with one person. the ability
companies with one person. the ability for someone to scale their authenticity
for someone to scale their authenticity and their impact and the types of change
and their impact and the types of change and helping each other that they want to
and helping each other that they want to have is going to explode even more than
have is going to explode even more than we've already seen.
we've already seen. >> Okay. So, I want people who feel left
>> Okay. So, I want people who feel left out to lean in even more because again
out to lean in even more because again that ability to go from idea to
that ability to go from idea to execution on anything
execution on anything is going to compress.
is going to compress. That is what excites me. The things that
That is what excites me. The things that we should expect to come. Uh and again
we should expect to come. Uh and again uh I can declare my predictions. They
uh I can declare my predictions. They might change all the time. Uh experts
might change all the time. Uh experts are always sharing their predictions and
are always sharing their predictions and we are constantly changing it. So again,
we are constantly changing it. So again, listen to a variety of voices. Anyone
listen to a variety of voices. Anyone that declares like for sure that
that declares like for sure that something is happening in the next 40
something is happening in the next 40 years, whatever, they're guessing.
years, whatever, they're guessing. Everyone's guessing. Okay. Number one,
Everyone's guessing. Okay. Number one, it feels like it is very very likely
it feels like it is very very likely that we will have a much more multimodal
that we will have a much more multimodal world.
world. >> What does that mean?
>> What does that mean? >> That means like modality could be text
>> That means like modality could be text or vision like visual things or audio.
or vision like visual things or audio. So, the ability to not just type in and
So, the ability to not just type in and say, "Make me an image of Mel Robbins
say, "Make me an image of Mel Robbins posing as Wonder Woman on top of a
posing as Wonder Woman on top of a hill,"
hill," >> but the ability to go in and out of
>> but the ability to go in and out of these different uh inputs, not just text
these different uh inputs, not just text to image, but like image to sound, sound
to image, but like image to sound, sound to movie, movie to blog post. I
to movie, movie to blog post. I legitimately think that we will be able
legitimately think that we will be able to talk to our pets in the next 10
to talk to our pets in the next 10 years.
years. >> What? Because these systems, again, the
>> What? Because these systems, again, the ability to translate is an emerging
ability to translate is an emerging capability that's coming out these
capability that's coming out these really, really big models.
really, really big models. >> So, like I could put a phone at my dog's
>> So, like I could put a phone at my dog's face and be like filming him and go,
face and be like filming him and go, "What is YOLO thinking?
"What is YOLO thinking? >> It's trying to tell me.
>> It's trying to tell me. >> It's a guess, but I It's feels more
>> It's a guess, but I It's feels more likely than not." And there's research
likely than not." And there's research happening, by the way, already in
happening, by the way, already in dolphins.
dolphins. >> Yeah. So like when my when homie puts
>> Yeah. So like when my when homie puts his paw on me, I'm like, "Okay, you're
his paw on me, I'm like, "Okay, you're irrit." Yeah. Like [laughter] love it.
irrit." Yeah. Like [laughter] love it. >> Home slice, homie.
>> Home slice, homie. >> Yeah. It's again [clears throat]
>> Yeah. It's again [clears throat] multi-modal.
multi-modal. You could you could view it as Yeah.
You could you could view it as Yeah. It's easier to put in information and
It's easier to put in information and easier to get out information. But that
easier to get out information. But that also means that if you want to learn
also means that if you want to learn quantum computing and you really like
quantum computing and you really like podcasts or you really like video,
podcasts or you really like video, >> maybe instead of reading a 700page book
>> maybe instead of reading a 700page book that is really scientific and dense, you
that is really scientific and dense, you could say, "Hey, can you make me a
could say, "Hey, can you make me a 25page PowerPoint?"
25page PowerPoint?" >> Well, I'll tell you what I'm excited
>> Well, I'll tell you what I'm excited about. I'm really excited about the fact
about. I'm really excited about the fact that
that so many
so many people and I know that I have absolutely
people and I know that I have absolutely felt this way in my life feel alone and
felt this way in my life feel alone and you feel like it's all on you and the
you feel like it's all on you and the way that you've explained what is
way that you've explained what is already available right now that is
already available right now that is there for free to act as a extension or
there for free to act as a extension or a team member
a team member or a thing that you can delegate a task
or a thing that you can delegate a task to that then expands your time, expands
to that then expands your time, expands your capacity, awakens you to options,
your capacity, awakens you to options, helps you create a plan, saves you time.
helps you create a plan, saves you time. You're not actually alone anymore.
You're not actually alone anymore. >> Can Can I also just
>> Can Can I also just >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> 100% yes. There are going to be people
>> 100% yes. There are going to be people who just heard you get it
who just heard you get it >> and they're going to go, "Well, now
>> and they're going to go, "Well, now there's too many options."
there's too many options." >> Mhm. And how on earth am I supposed to
>> Mhm. And how on earth am I supposed to change my whole life when all I see is a
change my whole life when all I see is a blank page,
blank page, >> right?
>> right? >> So, I just want to also
>> So, I just want to also uh tell the person listening,
uh tell the person listening, it's okay if you don't have that moment
it's okay if you don't have that moment of reinvention for the first couple
of reinvention for the first couple weeks you're using it. Like, give
weeks you're using it. Like, give yourself the space to fail, to be weird
yourself the space to fail, to be weird with it, um to ask new questions, to try
with it, um to ask new questions, to try and break it. And it's okay to delay
and break it. And it's okay to delay that light bulb moment. Um, don't punish
that light bulb moment. Um, don't punish yourself if you if you don't have that
yourself if you if you don't have that early on. That's so normal. And I don't
early on. That's so normal. And I don't want that person to to feel like they
want that person to to feel like they are behind in any way because in fact
are behind in any way because in fact they're quite ahead if they're willing
they're quite ahead if they're willing to do this.
to do this. >> Well, the fact that you've just spent
>> Well, the fact that you've just spent all this time listening to or watching
all this time listening to or watching this means you're
this means you're >> Oh my god. Very much so. Yes. On that
>> Oh my god. Very much so. Yes. On that note, if I were to take one action, I
note, if I were to take one action, I mean, you've told us so many exciting
mean, you've told us so many exciting things, specific things to do, things
things, specific things to do, things you're concerned about, but if I were to
you're concerned about, but if I were to just take one action, what's the most
just take one action, what's the most important action you should take after
important action you should take after everything that you've taught us today?
everything that you've taught us today? If you have not been using AI, use it.
If you have not been using AI, use it. Not because I'm telling you you have to
Not because I'm telling you you have to use it every single day or else you know
use it every single day or else you know the world will explode but I'm saying I
the world will explode but I'm saying I want your voice in the conversation and
want your voice in the conversation and by you experimenting and seeing the
by you experimenting and seeing the strengths and weaknesses of these
strengths and weaknesses of these systems you will be a stronger voice in
systems you will be a stronger voice in the conversation and you will be
the conversation and you will be included. You will get to say I want
included. You will get to say I want these systems to serve me and right now
these systems to serve me and right now we are missing some voices. So for those
we are missing some voices. So for those who are hesitant use it. For those who
who are hesitant use it. For those who have been using it, it is not Google.
have been using it, it is not Google. And you have to get out of that mindset.
And you have to get out of that mindset. You have to treat it like this alien.
You have to treat it like this alien. You have to try and do some real-time
You have to try and do some real-time interaction. You have to try and
interaction. You have to try and delegate a 20-minute task to it. You
delegate a 20-minute task to it. You have to, you know, try a live voice
have to, you know, try a live voice conversation. You have to get the
conversation. You have to get the superpowers out of it. And that means
superpowers out of it. And that means gaining more clarity, using it for more
gaining more clarity, using it for more forethought, using it to 10x. You know,
forethought, using it to 10x. You know, maybe even when you're naming this
maybe even when you're naming this podcast, ask AI to come up with 250
podcast, ask AI to come up with 250 options. You're still going to be the
options. You're still going to be the human that curates and picks and moves
human that curates and picks and moves things around and maybe rewrites it all,
things around and maybe rewrites it all, but you need to lean into the
but you need to lean into the superpowers of AI, not just better
superpowers of AI, not just better browsing.
browsing. One thing I'd love to have you end on is
One thing I'd love to have you end on is you have said repeatedly,
you have said repeatedly, you're excited because you can use AI to
you're excited because you can use AI to help you become the person you've always
help you become the person you've always wanted to be.
wanted to be. Can you speak directly to the person
Can you speak directly to the person listening and tell them what that means?
listening and tell them what that means? >> I'm going to give you an example from my
>> I'm going to give you an example from my own life. I moved to New York 3 years
own life. I moved to New York 3 years ago. I had just come off of a three-year
ago. I had just come off of a three-year road trip. I lost everything that I
road trip. I lost everything that I owned when my apartment flooded with
owned when my apartment flooded with sewage. So, I'm moving to a new city
sewage. So, I'm moving to a new city that I've never lived in into an
that I've never lived in into an apartment with zero furniture, zero
apartment with zero furniture, zero spoons, zero lamps. I am sitting on the
spoons, zero lamps. I am sitting on the floor. My butt hurts because the floor
floor. My butt hurts because the floor is so hard. And I burst into tears while
is so hard. And I burst into tears while eating like Annie's pretzels. And I'm
eating like Annie's pretzels. And I'm talking to my therapist the next day and
talking to my therapist the next day and I'm saying, "I can't do this. I'm
I'm saying, "I can't do this. I'm depressed. I even getting out of bed.
depressed. I even getting out of bed. I'm I'm literally eating dinner by
I'm I'm literally eating dinner by myself, sitting on the side of my
myself, sitting on the side of my bathtub cuz that's the only thing that's
bathtub cuz that's the only thing that's elevated.
elevated. She goes, "Wait a second, Ally. Did you
She goes, "Wait a second, Ally. Did you just say that you have an empty
just say that you have an empty apartment?" I was like, "Yeah." She
apartment?" I was like, "Yeah." She goes, "So you have a dance floor in New
goes, "So you have a dance floor in New York? How many people have a dance floor
York? How many people have a dance floor in New York?" I was like, "Say that
in New York?" I was like, "Say that again." And she completely flipped how I
again." And she completely flipped how I thought about this problem. And suddenly
thought about this problem. And suddenly I literally hosted a dance party in my
I literally hosted a dance party in my apartment. I had friends come over. We
apartment. I had friends come over. We had a YouTube video. We did Zumba stuff
had a YouTube video. We did Zumba stuff acting like an idiot right in a dark
acting like an idiot right in a dark empty apartment. I also organized a New
empty apartment. I also organized a New Year's planning session where we covered
Year's planning session where we covered the entire floor with post-its cuz I
the entire floor with post-its cuz I could. That gave me an idea to go to
could. That gave me an idea to go to these systems and to say here is a
these systems and to say here is a transformation that I've had in my life
transformation that I've had in my life because of this woman. because of one
because of this woman. because of one sentence that she asked me. I need to do
sentence that she asked me. I need to do this on repeat. I need every single time
this on repeat. I need every single time I come to you with a problem, you're
I come to you with a problem, you're going to give me the reframe. You're
going to give me the reframe. You're going to give me another reframe. You're
going to give me another reframe. You're going to give me a motivational sentence
going to give me a motivational sentence that tells me I can absolutely
that tells me I can absolutely accomplish this. You're going to give me
accomplish this. You're going to give me action items that I can get it done. And
action items that I can get it done. And so I built a again, zero code, took two
so I built a again, zero code, took two minutes. I built a repeatable way to go
minutes. I built a repeatable way to go to these systems with a problem and to
to these systems with a problem and to see it through a new light. It
see it through a new light. It completely rewired my brain. I used to
completely rewired my brain. I used to go to this thing multiple times a day. I
go to this thing multiple times a day. I haven't had to go to it in the last
haven't had to go to it in the last couple months because that's just how my
couple months because that's just how my brain processes bad things now. So, if I
brain processes bad things now. So, if I am very stressed about meeting with an
am very stressed about meeting with an executive or whatever, I go to the
executive or whatever, I go to the system maybe and I say, "I'm really
system maybe and I say, "I'm really stressed about this meeting." And they
stressed about this meeting." And they go, "You're probably stressed because
go, "You're probably stressed because you know that it's important. You have a
you know that it's important. You have a successful career because you've been
successful career because you've been given this important
given this important meeting. Good for you for being
meeting. Good for you for being successful. Own that success and know
successful. Own that success and know that with success comes stressful
that with success comes stressful moments. And you got to where you are
moments. And you got to where you are because you dealt with less stressful
because you dealt with less stressful moments, but that bar is going to keep
moments, but that bar is going to keep increasing. Good for you for already
increasing. Good for you for already surviving everything you've gotten. That
surviving everything you've gotten. That is the type of transformation that I am
is the type of transformation that I am working with these systems on. And again
working with these systems on. And again has completely rewired my brain. I now
has completely rewired my brain. I now look at stressful situations as anxiety
look at stressful situations as anxiety as an opportunity for reinvention.
as an opportunity for reinvention. >> Amazing. [clears throat]
>> Amazing. [clears throat] I just want to thank you. I want to
I just want to thank you. I want to thank you for making the time to learn
thank you for making the time to learn about this exciting tool. I mean, I
about this exciting tool. I mean, I realize there is so much I have to
realize there is so much I have to learn. So, I'm so proud of you for
learn. So, I'm so proud of you for listening to this and I'm proud of you
listening to this and I'm proud of you for watching this on YouTube. And thank
for watching this on YouTube. And thank you for sharing this with people in your
you for sharing this with people in your life. We all need to lean in and learn
life. We all need to lean in and learn how to use this tool. that's right there
how to use this tool. that's right there that could make our lives better. And
that could make our lives better. And one more thing, in case no one else
one more thing, in case no one else tells you today, I wanted to be sure to
tells you today, I wanted to be sure to tell you as your friend that I love you
tell you as your friend that I love you and I believe in you and I believe in
and I believe in you and I believe in your ability to create a better life.
your ability to create a better life. And I'll tell you something after the
And I'll tell you something after the conversation today. I am 1,000%
conversation today. I am 1,000% convinced that you can use AI as a tool
convinced that you can use AI as a tool to create a better life. [music] And I
to create a better life. [music] And I hope you feel empowered to start doing
hope you feel empowered to start doing so. All righty. I will see you in the
so. All righty. I will see you in the very next episode. I'll be there to
very next episode. I'll be there to welcome you in the moment you hit play.
welcome you in the moment you hit play. Thank you for watching all the way to
Thank you for watching all the way to the end. I'm so fired up that you are
the end. I'm so fired up that you are here. I'm so fired up that you are
here. I'm so fired up that you are sharing this with people. And I'll tell
sharing this with people. And I'll tell you one more thing that would make me
you one more thing that would make me very fired up. Hit subscribe. You know,
very fired up. Hit subscribe. You know, my team just showed me this. 57% of you
my team just showed me this. 57% of you who watch this are not subscribed.
who watch this are not subscribed. What's up with that? Just like AI. It's
What's up with that? Just like AI. It's free and it's a way that you can show us
free and it's a way that you can show us the same support that we're showing you.
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Thank you for sharing this episode. Thank you for your interest in creating
Thank you for your interest in creating a better life for yourself. I love that
a better life for yourself. I love that for you. And I also think you're going
for you. And I also think you're going to love this video. This is the one I
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