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I mean Satan cannot say that these people are mine
he cannot say that when they say
we disown you and the idols you worship beside God
we denounce you and you will see nothing from us except animosity and hatred
until you believe in God alone
and then we're given the example of Abraham and his father
however a mistake was committed by Abraham when he said to his father
I will pray for your forgiveness but I possess no power to protect you from God
our Lord we trust in You
we submit to You to You is the final destiny
our Lord let us not be opposed by those who disbelieved and forgive us
You are the Almighty, Most Wise
so I think we learn from this page we just, our stand must be firm
and to mind us that we are here all this trouble
is because we rebelled we did not make a firm stand
on the side of God when the great feud happened
the Jinns, for example made a firm stand with Satan
and we ..., we didn't we said maybe
maybe Satan can make it, can be a god
we did not make a firm stand with God
so this is our time to make up for it
and to denounce that wishy-washy stand that we had in the past
okay verse 6
a good example has been set by them
for those who seek God and the Last Day
as for those who turn away God is no need of them Most Praiseworthy
God may change the animosity between you and them into love
see what I mean when I said make your firm stand known
orally and publicly and tell them,
it's okay you can study and examine the evidence
until God guides you, but make it known
No. 7, God is Omnipotent God is Forgiver, Most Merciful
and these relationships are regulated by the next two verses
it tells you exactly how to behave towards whom
No. 8 says, God does not enjoin you from befriending those who do not fight you
because of religion and do not evict you from your homes
you may befriend them and be equitable towards them
God loves the equitable
so these are not considered enemies of God if they are not actively opposing you
they may be curious, they may be still looking they may be still examining the evidence
you'll be able to tell if they are hostile or not
No. 9, tells you that God enjoins you only from befriending those who fight you
because of religion
evict you from your homes and band together with others to banish you
you shall not befriend them those befriend them are the transgressors
if you are friends with somebody who is opposing God and His Messenger
what does this tell about you?
yeah
audience: wishy-washy
Rashad: hmm
audience: wishy-washy
Rashad: yes or worse
you have to make your stand very firm on the side of God alone
if somebody is idolizing Muhammed or Jesus or Mary or some saint with God
you have to make your stand known that you don't like that
that you are not their friends until they abandon their idolatry
and dedicate themselves to God alone
otherwise we will be like them
this is, throughout the Quran we see this
if you don't, if you don't do that you're like them, as guilty as they are
...
guy.: yeah for example, you work in the same office with them and provided they don't bother you
they have their own faith, they pray their own way and they don't bother you
you meet in the same restaurant
Rashad: right
guy : you meet in the same class and all this kind of place, play the same game
places you hook up in the evening provided they don't bother you
Rashad: they don't bother you they are not fighting you
guy : they are neutral
Rashad : they are neutral they are still ...
there is still hope for them
guy : so there's no problem you talk to them you play around, joke with them
Rashad: exactly
guy : religion aside
Rashad: exactly
verses 8 and 9 are really ... are the rule that covers, the umbrella rule
guy : can we be good to them? if they're not bothering you
Rashad: if they are still neutral yes
especially if it's going to help them
guy: if they declare themselves
if they declare themselves that they are unbelievers
can we be good to them?
Rashad: No, you better run away from them if they declare themselves as unbelievers
guy : they need help one kind or the other, help ...
some kind of help shall we help them?
Rashad: not if they declare themselves as unbelievers, they're enemies of God
yes, you have to run away from them you don't help them
guy: you don't help them
Rashad: No
this is what ... let's read it again
No. 9, God enjoins you from befriending those who fight you because of religion
evict you from your homes and band together with others to banish you
better yet if you look at verse No. 1
says, O you who believe you shall not befriend My enemies and your enemies
so a person who declared himself as an unbeliever is an enemy of God
he chose the opposite side
unless you have something else in mind as far as declare themselves unbelievers
can you be more specific?
Edip: Rashad, excuse me how a person can be included
in No. verse 8, these are not believers in fact
Rashad: but they are neutral
Edip: and they are not actively fighting against believers because No. 8
there are some people that they are not believers
but there they do not believe or maybe they're are agnostic
maybe they're Christian or Jews they worship what, they have no animosity
not the enemy
Rashad: they are not fighting, will this ... will this define what you mean?
guy : exactly
here extending love and friendship to them, there is a wide margin
between love and friendship
Rashad: yes
guy : I personally as a good Muslim would like to love my enemy
I do not know whether that enemy could be enemy of God
but it says both, your enemy and My enemy
Rashad: yes
guy : but I respect him fine there is a person, I know that he is my enemy
I wouldn't call anyone my enemy, but I'd say that this man has done bad to me
I would like to love him, I would respond by loving him,
Rashad: is he your enemy like in work? cuz of circumstances or
guy : unless he goes a little too far by
as it says that, take my house, take my home away
then of course I would retaliate differently
Rashad: okay, if it is personal friction
the Quran actually tells you to love your enemy
maybe it's a personal matter like for example
he built his fence inside your territory instead of, you know half
half yard inside your territory or something this has nothing to do with God
and in fact, I don't know if the Arabic will mean anything to you
يَدرَءونَ بِالحَسَنَةِ فى السَّيِّئَةَ
in other words, if something does bad to you, you does good to them
perhaps he will become your friend in the future
but here we're talking strictly religion as far as worshiping God alone is concerned
so when you say my enemy
guy : the ultimate would be that he may turn to be a believer because I am a believer
Rashad: right, if you mean by my enemy personal animosity that is
the Quran tells you, to do good to them to love your enemy
but because you'll be fighting for your sake, not for God's sake
this is why the verse starts with My enemies, God is saying My enemies first
you shall not befriend My enemies and your enemies
Edip: because God's enemies is also show our enemies
Rashad: that's right, so
the love and hate should be for the sake of God
not for our personal sake
Feroz: these are not all idol worshipers only the ones actively fighting
Rashad: yes
you know let us face it when we grew up they taught us idolatry
idol worship
we grow up as idol-worshipers all of us, this generation anyway
the new generation is cleaner than we are
but you give him a chance to see the truth
so if they are not fighting you there is hope,
that some day may be better than you and me
guy: right, as I was telling you we share the same office, we share the same
I explained about it and they are neutral and they happen to be in need of help
now would we help them ?
Rashad: you help them if they are not fighting you
if they are not actively fighting you, you help them, yes
guy : ... they need your help
Rashad: yes, look on them as potential believer
you're trying to woo them actually
guy : you can help them in that situation you can befriend them, help them
Rashad: this is what verse 8 is saying
says, God does not prohibit you from befriending those who are not fighting you
and not evicting you from your homes
fighting you because of religion excuse me, I have to add these 3 words
because of religion not because of personal matters
Azar: Rashad throughout the Quran we see that we should respect the relatives
Rashad: regard the relatives, yes
Azar: regard the relatives and if one of our relatives is idol worshiper
Rashad: you disowned them no, no
excuse me, go on, and fighting you I'm sorry
Azar: if they declare that they put Muhammad by God, they declare
Rashad: but they're not fighting
Azar: but they are not fighting
Rashad: fine, you can be their friends and love them and everything
try to woo them to worshiping God alone
guy: وَإِن جٰهَداكَ
Rashad: yes
Edip: [reciting part of Arabic verse 31:15]
Rashad: فَلا تُطِعهُما
they're not even fighting
this is about the parents
Edip: only if they troubling
Rashad: No just about relatives, like cousins, aunts, nephews, nieces
Azhar: even if your parents, if they fight you
you still you have to respect them
Rashad: that's right
but you don't obey them in that particular idol worship situation
Azar: is there any difference between which relative that you are asking
Rashad: yeah, the parents have a special positions the parents, God says don't say uff to them
Azar: if they are idol worship you should
Rashad : but God gives you permission to disobey them
if they're re forcing you to commit idolatry
say, you must mention Muhammad and Ibrahim in your prayer, for example
you don't obey them
say, okay mom or dad, you just keep, I understand your opinion
and appreciate your situation, but I'll do it my way, it's my neck
Emily: same as my parents saying ... they don't agree with my being here...
but they're not being, you know ...
Rashad: because they didn't know anything about us anyway
Emily: No, they just kind of...
I gave them some information but they don't want to look at it ...
Rashad: OK let's see what the rest of the Sura says, verse 10, in case of war
O you who believe, when believing women abandoned the enemy and asked for asylum
with you, you shall test them God is fully aware their belief
once you establish that they are believers you shall not return them to the disbelievers
they are not lawful to remain married to them
nor shall the disbelievers be allowed to marry them
give back the dowries
that the disbelievers have paid
you commit no error by marrying them so long as you pay them their due dowries
do not keep disbelieving wives if they wish to join the enemy
you may ask them for the dowry you had paid and they may ask for
what they paid this is God's rule
He rules among you, God is Omniscient, Most Wise
this probably will not, will never apply to us, but what this is saying
is when two camps are fighting
one camp are disbelievers and another camp is believers
and some women on the disbeliever's side join the believers
you do not have to obtain an official divorce for the women
you can consider them divorced without
without any official action
and the same if women from the believer's side
decides to disbelieve and join the disbeliever's camp
God is actually telling the believers to give them back their dowries
and divorce then
if this is what they want
No. 11, if any of your wives joined the enemies
oh I was a little head of myself
if any of your wives joined the enemy's camp
and you are forced to fight you shall force the enemy
to compensate the men who lost their wives
by giving them what they spent on the wives
you shall reverence God in whom you believe
No. 12, O you prophet, when the believing women who
abandoned the disbelievers to seek asylum with you
pledge to you that they will not set up any idols beside God
nor steal, nor commit adultery,
nor kill their children, nor fabricate any falsehood, nor display your righteous
disobey you righteous orders, you shall accept their pledge
and pray to God to forgive them
God is Forgiver Most Merciful
now when No. 12 says, O you prophet, what does this tell us
tells us, this the time of the Prophet Muhammad, it is not applicable to us
starting at verse 10
No. 13, O you who believe, do not befriend people with whom God is angry
this repeats verse 1 and verse 9
O you who believe, do not befriend people
with whom God is angry and who are hopelessly stuck in disbelief
it's very important, hopelessly stuck in disbelief
you have to use your own judgment if the person,
if there is hope, if the person may become a believer or not
and if there is hope that the person may become a believer
you better be as diplomatic as you can
to help them
you have a lot at stake by the way, when you do that
because when you help somebody come to the truth, you get a lot of credit
so God gives us incentives
lots of positive incentives to do that
so if you sense that the person there is hope
that the person may become a believer
you should be as diplomatic as can be and you use your own judgment in that
Martha: verse 12, ... they pledge they ...
Rashad: but there's no war, that's in case of war
yes, yes I know
they do all kinds of strange things
Behrouz: A'salaam Alaykum
Parivash: hey Mã Shã Allah
Rashad: you made it
come on in, come on in
Salaam, here, here, come here
how was your trip
Behrouz: oh excellent
Hi, Salaam, Salaam
Rashad: with whom God is angry
these are the criteria
and who are hopelessly stuck in disbelief hopelessly stuck in disbelief
they're just as hopeless as the disbelievers who are already in the graves
in other words, if there is absolutely no hope for them, therefore you cannot befriend them
this is where you have to use your own judgment
guy: be patient with them ...
Rashad: yes
there he is, he is here this is Montana
Behrouz: very glad to be here
Rashad: Canadian group were asking about you
Behrouz: yes, I hug everybody later
hi how are you
Parivash: you promise
Behrouz: yes
if you accept all dirty clothes ...
Rashad: let us finish the page, page 551
Sura 61, The Column Al-Suff
In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
glorifying God is everything in the heavens, and everything on earth
think about that
can we keep the kids quiet
tell them to lower their voices
glorifying God is everything in the heavens, and everything on earth
the carpet
the walls
glorifying God
I think we went into details of this before
Feroz is kind of surprised
this carpet is made of certain atoms
and every atom has a certain number of electrons
and the electrons are rotating in specific orbits
and this is God's laws, so they are glorifying God
in Sura 17 God says
وَإِن مِن شَيءٍ إِلّا يُسَبِّحُ بِحَمدِهِ
there is nothing that does not glorify God
even the disbelievers
and the rest of the verse yes says
you do not understand their glorification
so the disbeliever's body
the disbelievers cannot control the heartbeats
or the lungs breathing
Feroz: the only difference is they do it on unwillingly
Rashad: right
Edip: Rashad, God gave a impressive example of shadow
God said, they disbelieve God they think they disobey God
God gave shadow, obeys God's rule and go to ...
Rashad: I was just writing a footnote about this yesterday
and I said that the solar clocks bear witness to that
because
there is a solar clock here in the University in front of the observatory
it's very accurate
which is based in the shadow
tells you exactly what time it is
it is an eternal clock
so
glorifying God is everything in the heavens and everything on earth
He is the almighty, Most Wise,
O you who believe, why do you say what you do not do
most abominable in the sight of God is that you say what you do not do
so if you're asking somebody to do the five prayers you'd better be doing it yourself
No. 4, God loves those who fight in His cause
to be united in one column, like the bricks in one wall
there is no, there shouldn't be any
any differences
you have to be one
this is why we see in Sura 6, that God condemns sectarianism
God says, those who divide the religion into sects
do not belong with God or the Prophet
and they hear this practically every day but they still say
I am a Shafi'i, I am a Maliki, I am a Hanbali I am Sunni, I am a Shi'ah, Ahamadi
Barbara what are you?
Barbara: submitter In Shã Allah
Rashad: Mã Shã Allah, yes
I don't think we have any trouble under this roof
saying who we are
Emily: alot of people, you know like at work they ask stuff ...
a lot of them they're saying well this is just another sect ...
how can you explain it ...
Rashad: the only thing they know
but you know you go to any typical Masjid
in any Muslim country under the same roof, you are gonna find different sects
Edip: Oh today Rashad that Arab came
Rashad: was he an Arab?
Edip : yeah, he was Yemeni and he came before, he said
he came he said, now his Masjid that Masjid there are a lot of hatred
and bad thing, I hate there
I don't like, I want to research and he came ... they have trouble there
Rashad: yes they always do, they have fist fights
this is in every Masjid that I know
so this Sura is titled Al-Suff, the Column
like the bricks in one wall
recall that Moses said to his people O my people why do you hurt me
even though you know that I am God's messenger to you
when they deviated, God diverted their heart, for God does not guide the wicked people
so that's it
then we open to general discussions
any questions Azar?
Azar: No
Rashad: I don't believe it
yesterday I asked her, do you have any questions, she said, how are you?
Lady: Dr. Khalifa, I have a question is there particular rule ...
that men are always must lead the prayer ...
Rashad: this is the way that came to us all the way from Abraham
and usually if God wants to set a precedent for the subsequent generations
God would create a situation or circumstances that will force this issue
and then we'll have a precedent that a woman is leading the prayer
but that never happened
and the innovations are a very serious matter so just, so not start any innovation
we are keeping this, this rule,
Lady: but I think in my own house ... my father has always ...
Rashad: I would say, yes because of this same reason
this has been always the rule and any change, it'll be an innovation
so it's not worth it
from the logical point of view
a woman leading the prayer is not, is not
the woman is dignified and they'll be more distracting for the men
it's very dangerous to start a new innovation, something new
Mehdi: there is a, there are three places that
Rashad: that's a bad question, no, no, go ahead, just kidding
Mehdi : talking about cut in Quran
one is cutting the thieves hand
Rashad: yes
Mehdi : the other one is when Joseph, those ladies cut their hands because ...
and there is a third one that Pharaoh says, those people who follow Moses cut
their hands and feet on alternate side but I don't know, but I mean
my question is the third one similar to the first or the second
Rashad: no, it's neither
the word used for Joseph and the women and 19 verses later in Sura Joseph
and also cutting the hand of the thief that's the same word
Mehdi : the same word
Rashad: but the word used for the people who commit gross crimes
and fight God
and the word that Pharaoh is using is different
there is, قطَع
and قَطَّعَ
you see the difference
guy: I don't know
Rashad: no, no, listen, listen, just listen to the voice
قَطعَ
this is the root for the hand of the thief
but for the people who commit gross crimes is
قَطَّعَ
Mehdi : for the thief and Joseph basically exactly the same
Rashad: right
same word exactly
Mehdi: what supports this
قَطعَ
Edip: the people that fight against believers they could be killed also
Mehdi : that's the same one that Pharaoh did
Rashad: they commit heinous crime
stealing is a very specific crime
Edip: yes, the difference very firm because this root
قَطعَ
is strongly punishment, is the word
(speaking Arabic)
means to make it stronger
(speaking Arabic)
Rashad: God gave us mathematical evidence, so
Cecilia: brother Rashad,
Rashad: yes
Cecilia: earlier this afternoon
when we were studying a question came up with that Jumaà prayer
if you came in and the first part of the first khutba was given already
how many Rakàts do you have to do?
Rashad: 2
guy: you missed 2 khutba
Cecilia: you told that to ... because it wasn't a very straightforward answer
Rashad: this is a straightforward answer if you missed the whole khutba
and come, people happen to be doing the 2 Rakats, you only do 2 Rakats
because you went to the place and chances are, you're gonna ask the people
what was the subject, what did they talk about
you will be discussing it
also you are praying in a congregation so the credit carries over, in other words
Roxana : and if you are alone on Friday
Rashad: you can not do Friday
Mohtasham: so even though you missed the whole thing
Rashad: you give yourself a khutba you'll be accused of being a schizo
see the word Jumaà by definition is group
yes go ahead, you have a guest for one night, Azhar and Shahrokh
because you came too early
your fault
go ahead
No she wasn't
yeah go ahead, you need people to help you move in
Behrouz: no, no, no, tomorrow
Rashad: we have great muscles see check Mahmoud's muscles, Mohtasham's and Edip's
tomorrow In Shã Allah, we have to ...
Rashad: just say when, tomorrow morning, tonight?
Behrouz: no not tonight because they're closed we have to take in the morning
and pull in my car with it and get it out of there, then bring the car back
Rashad: say when, and we will be here In Shã Allah
Atef? he's gone
exactly
go ahead,
Edip: it is a good point, but if you think further God is capable to create a system
that even if everybody equal and also can they survive
God is, it is God's system now talking about,
but God can create another system that even everybody could survive ...
Rashad: but we're talking about the system we have now
Edip: but it is possible for God
but when God inside another system, i have a also additionally another answer
the final, the most important thing the test or visual test
worship God alone
everything for example could be poor or could be rich,
you can see many rich people
they do not see the message because they are rich they are proud
they don't involve, they don't take care they may off course they accept
sometimes literally in this test all poor, to be poor or to be rich
has the same disadvantage and advantage ...
if you look at the perspective of the test, as the final ...
they all have the same, different but equal problems and equal advantage
Rashad: what is happening to communism today?
communism failed, their Carl Marx said everybody
all people have to be equal didn't work
Nasir destroyed Egypt using this principle
because all of a sudden the boss will call somebody to do something
no I'm not gonna do it, I'm just as
I'm just like you and the whole country stopped from that moment
Abdulhai: but I think this system was
what Edip say, everything was equal and so on
God will make it work out to the other way
then they ask why God is not justice, worried...
Rashad: yes
Mamad: nothing exactly is the condition we accepted to come over here
for example, I have God send me over here I would love this much power or
power here, everything I would still glorify You probably I feel ok ... send me over there
make me king still I will glorify You or purify with all information
we accepted before you tell people
Rashad: say it again
Mamad: before we came to here we accepted all of these ...
what happened to us ... yeah ... for everything bad or good
it's going to happen for us still we are willing to glorify You ...
... still coming we accepted that ...
Rashad: we're accepted the freedom of choice
we didn't, if you
Mamad: for example, Monday you said, for example, they all come to this world
Rashad: oh I see, yes they submitted, they submitted to God
the horse, the dog, the stars, the trees
Mamad: happened for example, a lot of hard time ...
Rashad: not necessarily,
they just decided to submit and come to this world
and perform certain functions in total submission
but we didn't know what we were in for
materials of this world all that the disbelievers get
if it were not that all the people might become one disbelieving congregation
we would have granted everyone who disbelieves in the Most Gracious
mansions with silver roof and stairs upon which they could climb
so because this is all they get in this world, God is saying
you know, their destiny is so awful
in the hereafter that
God wishes to get each one of them a few million dollars and a mansion
and let them have fun here for 60 or 70 years
because after that they're heading for hell
but then the tests become more difficult for the believers
Azar: Rashad, I have a question we read in the Quran that
rich believer is better than poor but throughout the we also read that
the material is nothing ..., hereafter is better
but how come God is telling us rich believer is better than the poor
Rashad: okay let us say we're all poor we're all believers
we're all believers, and we barely make it
we are poor, how will you print this Quran, for example
it's a good thing that we have this here and we sent it to Hajal who'd be coming
all the away from Nigeria
he received the message and the Quran the books
Azar: you can ask for money
yes, doesn't make a difference
the dollars already assigned to you you can go ahead and ask,
the reason go ahead and ask and God says so
is because it's a form of worship
when you ask God, but do not make any difference,
the dollars from birth to death already assigned,
ask John about that
guy: rich old man
Rashad: but you know as it is with the believers, you're guaranteed all your needs
your health, your wealth
you are guaranteed a perfect life if you are a believer
and you may have zero in the bank
but you will not worry
you have peace of mind
and IRS cannot touch you your money deposited up there
Edip: Rashad, the title that rich believer better than poor believer
something is open to abuse for abuse, I think ...
Rashad: anything is open to abuse anything is open to abuse, anything, believe me
Edip: something is open for abuse
people try treat each other according to their money
and then it becomes like a company those with more money ...
erasing their mistakes ... I don't know ...
Rashad: this is what God said
remember that the common denominator is believer
the rich believer is better than the poor believer
Edip: there is encouraging, I think it could be told a different way
for example, a believer try to be rich
I try to be rich and then I work hard ...
Rashad: you are not trying to be rich
Edip: excuse me
Rashad: listen Afameh, Afameh listen, you are not trying to be rich
Edip: who
Rashad: you
Edip: how do you know
Rashad: I'm asking
Rashad: he is criticizing trying to be rich
okay now, you are not trying to be rich ?
Edip: excuse me
Rashad: do you want to be rich ?
I am not excusing you
Parivash: but Rashad, I think he is saying this is a good point ...
Rashad: no no, he is saying it is not a good point
Parivash: but I think he said
Rashad: trying to be rich is that good or bad
Edip: depends on your priority
you have other things to do, first of all ...
Rashad: okay let's take you for example do you want to be rich ?
Edip: sure I want to be rich
Rashad: why
Edip: well why not
Rashad: I'm glad you're watching Afameh
Edip: sure thing ... but it is not just
Rashad: right so we agree, God said
Edip: yeah, for believers to be rich sure it is better to be poor, but
Rashad: thank you very much
Edip: anyway there're sometimes expression of a faith, is sometimes
Rashad: you don't wanna say, the rich believer is better than the poor believer
Edip: it's something funny, I ...
Rashad: yes, Hajal
Hajal: yes, a rich believer is better than the poor believer, it depends
on the rich believer appreciate the gift that given to him
asking from God, and then use this gift
in the cause of God
Rashad: exactly
Hajal: charity, building Mosque, in the cause of God generally and doing other obligations
knowing very well that all the things most of all making his own education
intelligence,
Rashad: charity
Hajal: but they are from Almighty Allah
Rashad: I'm telling you it's not easy to be a rich believer, more difficult, did you know that
it is more difficult, it is more responsibility
and I'll give you the example of Solomon, ok, Solomon was very rich
was the richest human alive
and he became distracted with his horses, what did he do?
he got rid of his horses, yes so that's, it's very difficult
because you get distracted
Edip: by the way, can we say Solomon is better than Job,
because of rich believer is a criteria
according to Quranic ...
Rashad: yes the rich believer, listen there's nothing you can do about
the rich believer being better than the poor believer, cuz God said so
so we can only debate on some detail
but the principle, God already set the principle:
the rich believer is better than the poor believer, Sura 16
we cannot fool around with the principle but you can discuss
Atef: the rich are equally more difficult
Rashad: yes
Atef: you get into ... you have two believers
Rashad: because they both believe in God
this is why I'm using you as an example
is it better for you to be poor or rich? you, as a believer
you are the same believer, your belief in God is certain In Shã Allah
it will never change now is it better for you to be poor or rich
Edip: Rashad
Rashad: for all concerned
no answer, answer my question first, and then
Edip: let me
Rashad: is it better to be for you to be poor or rich, in your opinion
is it better to be rich or poor?
Edip: sure
Rashad: sure what
yes
Edip: let me, there is one point Rashad the word believer is not something
it is very relative subject, for example, there are maybe two believers
both of them believers but
one of them more appreciative but God didn't give,
God said, I'll give you, how do you say
if God
Rashad: no no we're talking about equal believers, they're both believers
you've reached the top as far as belief is concerned
Edip: you know ۚ إِنَّ أَكرَمَكُم عِندَ اللَّهِ أَتقىٰكُم
God says
Rashad: right, both of them are in the same Taghva, same belief, same degree
of Taghva
now which one is better
Edip: but you cannot say this
Rashad: why not this is what God is saying
we're talking about two equals, go head, you have very good arguments
Abdulhai: let's say there are two people
both spent the same amount of time, for His cause, thinking about God
for example read the Quran
and whatever that ...
to me I think the one
they both have even the same knowledge
one can be lazy, ... get 8 hours of sleep
and I do whatever I do, and
... for example 8 hours
the other one say okay
I sleep only 6 hrs, I work harder
and that's the reason he can be richer he has more money, then
to me that person work harder
and he can be ... their belief are the same they are both guided, their belief are the same
yes, that one is better, because he worked harder, and achieved whatever ...
Rashad: even without working harder say I want to
because I've seen people who don't work at all and they're very rich anyway
yes, but if they are both believers
then the rich, according to the Quran what God is telling us that the rich has
a better chance to be charitable, to help the others, to publish the Quran, or whatever
the things that need money the thing that need money
Hajal: poor believer ... equally poor
really a believer, ... when he's coming home when he comes home,
he is fully aware there is no food in the house, and
time for bed coming home around, time for prayer
and 4 - 5 kids in the house with the wife
and he went out to work, coming home he couldn't get anything
and when he come in to the house the kids keep crying all over the places
and wife making faces
if you have think of praying ... at the time ... but looking
Rashad: distracting
at the end of this problem when you come home, you know the food is there
the kids are playing with their motor bike and all the things, you go straight and ...
Rashad: you concentrate on the prayer, yes that also
anyway we cannot fool around with the principle that
the rich believer is better than the poor believer
Edip wants to make a lot of money so can publish the translation in Turkey
and build a mosque in his hometown
and buy a few dresses for Afameh
he is going to be a millionaire In Shã Allah,
Mamad: is it possible a believer be rich
Rashad: yes
huh, no?
why
Solomon was a believer he was very very very rich
Mamad: ... I don't think
a believer could be rich when you really a believer
I don't think you be able to be rich
Rashad: why
Mamad: because you are going to find ... you know you are going to believe in God ...
believe in God, so I think you are going to ... all of your money in the right way
Rashad: no, not necessarily
but he'll be rich then, if he's spending all his money, he is rich
this, also we don't know how much money is waiting for us
so we have to work as hard as possible
it's God's perfect system
Hajal: who knows how much is ...
Rashad: yeah, we don't know so we have to knock on all the doors
and one of them, some of them, the right ones will all open
but you have to knock
Edip: No way he can not be rich it is that hard ... working for ...
Rashad: you never know
somebody pushed the door, it's getting cold draft in here
Cecilia: Rashad, if poor, isn't poor and rich relative to the place
that the poor and rich people is as that where Solomon and Job
Job was rich within where Job was
Rashad: Job was rich period,
Cecilia: he was very wealthy for Job, so
Rashad: no period, he was very wealthy period
he became poor for awhile, then he became twice as rich, yeah
Cecilia: right, so even though he wasn't as wealthy as Solomon,
he was wealthy person
within that time so poor and rich has to be relative to where
poor and rich really is, because
it sounds like rich may mean a million dollars and that is really wealthy
it can do just as much as ten million dollars may be able to do in another place
so poor and rich is relative to the place ... I think the statement of
rich believer is better than a poor is a very character-driven statement
for a believer it gives you the need to strive
it makes you want to build yourself to do something
and it makes you want to be better
Rashad: yeah, definitely
Ok, I think we'll stop here, we usually read two pages every morning and then
we open to discussion
guy: Rashad
Rashad: yes
guy: when God said rich believer is better than poor,
it means in this world? right
Rashad: yes
guy: not the hereafter
Rashad: why?
also the hereafter
there would be ranks in the hereafter
I think
this is where heaven and hell, we can think of it
if we apply the terms of this world
a ditch-digger out, when it is 110 degrees here in Tucson
and somebody is digging ditches out there
he's hoping that he'll save enough money someday to import cheese from Greece
and sell it here, and stop, in other words there is a hope that this'll end,
the ditch digging
but if in the hereafter a ditch-digger is ditch-digger forever
there's no hope
this is why it is hell
so there are ranks over there and when
the people in hell are assigned those low ranks, they know that this is forever
there is no promotion
guy: God also says that closest to God is the most righteous
Rashad: yes
guy: and then they ... ranks
Rashad: over there? in the hereafter?
there will be ranks, in fact we have three general ranks
we have the high heaven, we have the low heaven,
and then we have hell, so God gives us descriptions of
the high heaven and the low heaven, in the high heaven the water flows
in the low heaven you have to pump you have to work for it
right, so that's the difference
yeah Sura 55
God describes the high heaven and the low heaven
and God says in the high heaven
the water flows like a spring it's right there ready
but in the lower heaven you have to pump it's all of course allegory
relative,
you have to work for it, God tells us in the high heaven there is all kinds of fruits
in the the lower heaven there is a limited number of fruits
God names names certain fruits
but the high heaven God says there's all kinds of fruits
so there are there are ranks and limitations even there
guy: I believe the ranks
but God does say
that closest to Me is the most righteous
Rashad: right
guy: I don't see any mention about the hell
that's my question
Rashad: so closest to God will be in the high heaven
you talking about the Hereafter
guy: yes
Rashad: yes the closest to God will be in the high heaven
Edip: righteous, more righteous
guy: more righteous, not the most righteous ...
guy: but I think, let me
Rashad: yeah but this implies being in the high heaven, means wealthier
richer
guy: so richness of this world is different from the richness of the hereafter,
Rashad: okay you're saying that
rich believer here can be in the lower rank than a poor believer here
over there
guy: I do, the ...
Rashad: that's right, you're right, it's not necessarily the same
you take 2 believers, one is rich, one is poor here,
this may be reversed over there
but in any case, I think I understand your question now,
but in any case it is fantastic triumph to be in the lower heaven
or the heaven over there
and there is no jealousy
there's no jealousy and everybody is perfectly happy
the jealousy will be erased from the dictionary in the heaven,
in the high heaven, or the low heaven
the feeling of ecstasy and joy and happiness, yes
guy: Rashad
Rashad: yes
guy: my 11-year-old son was asking me
why do you have to eat in heaven?
do you age? do you change?
for example, if I die at age 14
Rashad: you don't eat in heaven
so why got fruits, why God is telling you
Rashad: no, no, they are all allegory there are no fruits
there are no trees and no fruit
unless you want to, you can make them if you want to
just look at them and reminisce about the first life
Atef : the rivers of milk and honey and wine, they're all just allegory
Rashad: it's all allegory
Atef: because we don't know what really...
Edip: we might get here but this is ...
for exemple have the allegories in hell
very high and in the middle of and the end of a tree
and it said tree here
that we know, and the fire that we know, the tree and the fire ... it's all allegory
Parivash: but in the Quran said in the hereafter when they see some the kind of fruit
they remember and say this is exactly what God gave us the first time
the first time is not this life, the first time they remember exactly in the heaven ...
Rashad: no, God says in the same verse that we thus give them allegorical descriptions
Parivash: yeah okay, but
Rashad: وَأُتوا بِهِ مُتَشٰبِهًا
Parivash: exactly, I'm talking
Edip : oh, no, no وَأُتوا بِهِ مُتَشٰبِهًا
their understanding is a lot different
Rashad: the same, yes I know
we used to understand that this way
Edip: yes, we used to understand it, Parivash
وَأُتوا بِهِ مُتَشٰبِهًا
Rashad: means allegorical
Edip : we had understood it similar not ...
Rashad: this is an amazing play of words
Edip: God says they have been given an allegory of paradise ...
Rashad: yes listen, look at this word مُتَشٰبِهًا and the way God used it
it's amazing
مُتَشٰبِهًا means similar
مُتَشٰبِهًا also means allegorical
so if people want if people want to believe that
it means they may get apples like the apples here
the bananas like the bananas here fine, they'll understand it that way
Edip: Rashad
Parivash: because I thought we say
Edip: I did say ...
Rashad: allegory yes
no, I said if the people like in the past
Parivash: no but Rashad, I mean
when I read it I thought this is the allegory of the fruit for example
but not the same as this, here the life
the first we remember in the day of resurrection, the heaven and everything,
and we remember there, not here
Rashad: yes, Oh Ok, she is ahead of us, yes
she is ahead of both of us
wonderful
babies are supposed to be asleep at this time
I mean look at John he is not awake yet
guy: Mackan
Parivash: when you are teaching
and after you said OK, anybody have a question
and I think maybe when you teach us and better to not, because I was the one that interrupt ...
but it is not better to just listen and to see after you finish ... no
Rashad: no, because this brings up lots of points
Rashad: yes
Edip: the earth is more, because
Rashad: no no no, water is the vast vast majority
you talk about the solid mass of the planet earth
if you take the solid mass and compress it the water will be 9 times as many
90% is water
Edip: anyway my suggestion was this that living creature
because دابَّةً here is living creature ... hydrogen is like
Rashad: no the example, we talking about even the earth
Edip: also Rashad for example stars, stars also creature of God
for example there is no water in Sun
and I think ...
Rashad: actually there is do you know what the Sun is made of?
Edip: ... hydrogen
Rashad: what is the water made of?
Edip: hydrogen and oxygen
Rashad: there is no there's no way around it,
hydrogen and oxygen is H2O
Edip has the flies
he has pocket full of flies, ... in the oatmeal
Edip: what is this?
Rashad: we will never tell you
don't change ...
Ihsan: someday you may say something important
he wouldn't want to miss anything keep on saying
until he hits the jackpot
Rashad: God created every ...
he had a good point Edip has a very good point
because God talks about the creature that walk on the bellies like snakes
or a two or four, so
God is talking about living creatures it's a very good point that Edip is raising
but I'd like to give him rough time once in awhile
see how far I can push him
Ihsan: he knows that
... knows you love him
Rashad: because what, what makes this
he is talking about the stars and the Sun
but what makes this restricted to living creatures
like he said, is that God says some walk on two legs, some walk on their bellies
now living organisms are 85 to 99 percent water
we're talking about plants, animals, and humans
46
and life can not sustain
without water in those creatures all of them
this is the one common
one thing that's common to all living creatures is water
46, we have sent down to you clarifying revelations
then God guides whomever He wills in a straight path
God sends instructions through His messenger
they say we believe in God and in the messenger and we obey
but then some of them turn away they are not believers
when they're invited to God and His Messenger to judge among them
some of them get upset
Parivash knows that
Parivash: maybe
quite a few of them
however if the judgment is in their favor they readily accept it
is there a disease in their heart
are they doubtful
are they afraid that God and His messenger may treat them unfairly
in fact it is they who are unfair
believers unhesitatingly obey God and His messenger
51
the only utterance of the believers whenever invited to God and His messenger
to judge in their affairs is to say we hear and we obey
these are the winners
those who obey God and His messenger and reverence God and observe Him
these are the triumphant ones
they swear by God solemnly
that if you commanded them to mobilize they would mobilize
say, do not swear obedience is an obligation
God is fully cognizant of everything you do
I, my own experiences is with this
is for example the issue of 40 years, when it surfaced
there was so much opposition to it maybe because we are mean creatures
you know, why does God put them in heaven
put them all in hell
this is what they were telling me
and they argued and we had to use a lot of
discussion back and forth which wasted a lot of time and effort
so had they said we hear and obey
and then
take off from that point
we would have saved a lot of time and effort
they would have saved themselves a lot of time
so this why God said the only utterance of the believers whenever invited
to God and His messages to judge in their affairs is to say
we hear and obey these are the winners
they save their time and effort
there are quite a few people you know
this issue dragged with them for almost a year
and the funny thing is some of them I thought they accepted it
then a year later I found that they didn't
they're still having trouble with it
Mehdi : does it mean that they should not question anything
accept it without ...
Rashad: in fact I did say now they should question it
but after accepting it
in other words, God says so OK we accept it
now let us see why is God setting the age of 40, and
why isn't it 45 or 30
we can discuss that but after accepting it and knowing it
but what I found was they actually could not accept it
it didn't make sense to them
and
I tell them okay give me the break, the line
where is the line, the cutoff line of responsibility, is it 6 years ?
when somebody dies at the age of 7 does he go to, is he responsible ?
or at the age of 17,
21, what is it ?
I mean give me, there is no, there's no age in the Quran except 40
for the age of responsibility
in other words they were just objecting without
without having an alternative
yes
Mehdi: there's no age which you start your prayer and obligated to fast ...
Rashad: oh yeah
Mehdi: there's a age like that?
Rashad : there's an age
Mehdi: which age is that?
Rashad : it's about one week
it's true
Mehdi: what does that mean?
Rashad: explain Ihsan
you explain, explain to Mehdi
Ihsan: you have to ... Hanny
Rashad: did you see Hanny pray?
Mehdi: he is not one week
Rashad: no he started, I assure you he started before one week
actually our babies start before they are born
Ihsan: Gatut's son from the hospital came right here
Rashad: yes
Ihsan: before he went home
Rashad: he came here before ...
Ihsan: ... when he knew how to stand up
... as soon as he can stand up he would pray, there is no age, ... just grows
Rashad: listen Edip's baby is not even one week, he or she listening to the Quran
did you know that ?
Mehdi: I understand it
deciding, deciding when he is obligated you don't do it, it is a sin
so it would be 40
so if you don't pray until 40 you're not committing any sin
Rashad: no, but you see Hanny will gain from this, what he is going, from his prayer
because this is my personal experience for example, I started like Hanny and
I never quit and I think I'm benefiting from this
Ihsan : my father went Rashad to the Mosque, for Fajr every day
Edip: the question that Atef asking
Rashad: Mehdi
Edip: yeah Mehdi, Mehdi is asking me
... how do say responsiblity age is forty we cannot ask people younger than 40
you pray, oh then you say ... we have no
Rashad: how do you make a decision?
Azhar: ... if they know they're going to die before 40 then ...
Edip; the point Rashad they misunderstand
age 40 is the maximum age, the maximum limit which gives you
for example if I am now, I am before 40, I heard the message, I know the truth
if I try to abuse it, God knows my innermost thoughts,
and God will mislead me
and I may lose my chance to be believer after 40
Rashad: yes there's more to it than that there is more to it than this also,
although it will not happen but theoretically
the person is a strong believer the age of 20
and he practices and then he dies at the age of 35
he may go to the high heaven instead of the low heaven
there's a big difference there
Edip: because he get a chance of ...
Rashad: this is a big if
yes, but to answer Mehdi's question more, in more detail
we are required to make the decision before the age of 40
so how are we going to make a decision if we don't know
about the prayers and the fasting and actually practice it
Emily: ... time to investigate
Mehdi: if they miss their prayer, which is bad ... like so many things
but if anyone under 40, I mean is not that much pressure on him
Rashad: true
Mehdi: too lazy to get up for
Rashad: but you're assuming that the person knows that he or she will die before 40
Mehdi: but the reason basically I am asking because in Iran and some other countries
they set the limit of age for girls
I guess they start praying at 9 and boys at 14 or 15
... they have these ...
Rashad: this is different though
Mehdi: there are no basis, basically
Rashad: yeah well in the Sunni world the age is five and you beat them at seven
this is the Hadith
Mehdi: you beat them at 7
Rashad: yes, they say teach your kids at the age of 5 and beat them up at age of 7
for to pray
who's laughing?
are you snickering?
it's true
علموا اولادكم
you know - this Hadith, right
علموا اولادكم الصلاه علي سبع و اضربوهم عليها لعشر
is it 7 or 10 ?
guy: 10
Rashad: عشر
okay ten years, beat them, beat them from the age 10
Emily: you look at my 2 kids here ...
... I mean looks like they're enjoying praying they know they should ...
Ihsan: there are no age ... I mean
this is all they know, they have to be there, it's natural for them, it's like eating, sleeping
Emily: they enjoy it too
Ihsan: go to the bathroom
Rashad: you see how Hanny runs to the prayer, I didn't even give him candy
I've to go get the candy, I forgot
he is not doing it for the candy
Ihsan: see there is no candy he forgot
say obey God and obey the messenger if they refuse then
he is responsible for his obligations
and you are responsible for your obligations
if you obey him you will be guided
but sole duty of the messenger is to deliver the message
so the criterion of obeying the messenger is whatever he's saying
must be in the Quran, must be backed up by what God is saying
it is not in the Quran it is your obligation to disobey
actually in this same Sura
it says that, so the reason God is saying obey God and obey the messenger is that
because the messenger conveys the word of God, the message
Parivash: okay ... somebody asked me
about what happened if okay
we believe in Rashad, messenger of God but what happened if he's human and
you say something by mistake ... I showed him, he did and I explained okay
if you are right and he is mistaken he is responsible to answer to God
but you have, God said you have to obey him
either if you see maybe, maybe, you know this is right ...?
Rashad: yes yes
in other words, if on the Day of Judgement say, why did you believe that
the age of 40 this or that
well I believed Your messenger then that will be an excuse
if I'm making a mistake it'll be my responsibility
Azar: at the last line it says the sole duty of messenger is to deliver the message
so you can realize easily
who is the real messenger
Rashad: Ok,
God's promise: kings and Queen on earth
one of the most important verses in the Quran, God promises
which means it's done
those among you who believe and lead a righteous life
that He will make them sovereigns on earth
as He did for those before them
and will establish for them the religion He has chosen for them
and will substitute peace and security for them in place of fear
all this because they worship Me alone
without setting up any idols beside Me
those who disbelieve after this are the truly wicked
what more can you say
the believers have no fear and no grief, no fear, no grief,
Vicky: can I ask one more time
what's exactly righteous life ... you did it last time in my place
but I was with my kids
Rashad: righteous means abide by Quran's commandments and prohibitions
God gave us very simple things to do
Azar : at the first verse of Sura 2
3 categories of people, righteous, hypocrite...
Azhar : ... try to ... try to both submitters Muslim and a Mumen
believers, submitters and believers
I guess one who becomes a believer
I would appreciate this verse
how can one know one has reached that stage?
Rashad: if there is no more doubt
Azhar: no more doubt
Rashad: then you are a believer
the difference between a Muslim and a Mumen is the doubt
that's the only difference
so Muslim is a person who believes in God, believes in the hereafter
leads a righteous life
does all the commandments and the prohibitions but they are lingering doubts
once in a while
when all these doubts are gone then the person is a believer, a Mumen
defines the Muslim and a Mumen Sura 49:11
Mehdi: you were discussing insurance with me
you were saying this often
there's always something like a how do you say, the lingering doubts
when are you protected? when you're a Muslim or when you're Mumen
to ensure God will protect you if you don't have insurance
Rashad: right, it takes a believer it takes a personal ...
when we do the prayer, yes
when we come back from the prayer I'll give you candy,
when you say Allahu Akbar and you pray
you thought you're the smartest one, right
yeah, it takes a believer to know that he or she has insurance with God
A solid believer
by the way, God tells us how to attain this certainty
it's at the end of Sura 15, it's the last verse
Sura 15, which is 99
you add that to the number of the Sura, you have 114
makes it very important
page 267
it says, worship your Lord in order to attain certainty
so a Muslim will do the five prayers, fast the month of Ramadan
and so on and this is how he or she will attain certainty
all the doubts will be gone
also one of the functions of the miracle of Quran is
to establish certainty remove all doubt
so a person who understand the miracle of Quran, will have no doubt
right
Azhar: if they just understand the miracle all doubts are ...
Rashad: that's right, this is in 74 :31
where it says:
to remove all doubt from the hearts of the believers, Christians and Jews
Azhar: now I understand from advice of your
Muslim perspective that ... computed discoveries you've applied ... and the point
one thing is whether you understand or not
Rashad: exactly
Mamad: ... you remind other believers you have to practice,
believe in Quran all the time
we say suppose, we believe you
that they change their mind like I was before, I was Muslim
I pray occasionally, again read Quran so after awhile I forgot everything ,
... we believe you're the messenger ...
but we didn't have to come practice ...
Parivash: Rashad could you please explain
that words of Muslim and believer
cuz Quran say okay don't say you're Muslim ...
Rashad: don't say you are Mumen say you're ...
until all doubts are gone, the difference in a Muslim and a Mumen is the doubt, doubt
if there is doubt the person is not a Mumen yet
Azar: Rashad, is that right that as soon as we attain certainty ...
Rashad: excuse me, that's not bad
it just means that the person is inching towards being a believer
it's like we're born babies first you can't be born an adult
you have to be a baby first
this concept of born-again Christian is true, you know
you can be a born-again Muslim when you're born again you are baby
and you have to accept the fact that you must grow and develop slowly
until you attain that stage of adulthood or maturity, certainty
Parivash: because we had a discussion that they say
Okay, a lot of people say we are believers in God
but they are not Muslim, believing in God
Rashad: yes, God says don't say that,
Azar: no, they're Mumens they're not Mumens
Azhar: they believe but they haven't submitted
Rashad: yes
isn't there a word stronger than believe certain
but it's not, it's not applied
it's used in the language
... supposed to say, I believe I'm certain, I know
Cecilia: I know ... I trust God
I'm certain, I'm certain
Rashad: I have to invent new vocabulary
Parivash: yeah because when we say believe, don't say I'm a Muslim
and they say we're believers, we believing in God
but they are not believing in Muhammad, and we are not Mumen
Azhar: but I think that the word submit should distinguish that
well if there's any belief then we can question them, have you submitted
as Quran would say ...
if they submitted that means they should be following Quran
Rashad: I guess when a person says I submit, this means I apply
to be admitted into the first grade so I'm going to sit and be a student
when you go to a class
who are admitted into a class we sit there and listen to the teacher
so we submit God being our teacher
then we read the textbook
see what it says
who is making noise over there, mm-hmm
who's the noisy kid -
Mã Shã Allah
Azar: as you say Rashad,
as soon as we get certainty, we attain certainty, then we are a Mumen, right?
Rashad: yes
Azar: and at this case our test will be finished?
and everything will be full and good?
Rashad: yes, yes everything will be
Cecilia: everything will be fine? No
Azar : yeah, as soon as we get certainty, is that right?
Rashad: yes, everything will be alright, yes
even you go apply for a job and you don't get it, you'll understand
Cecilia: oh okay, I get it I see what you're saying, OK
Vicky: ... Dr. Khalifa ... like right now
Al-Hamdulillah
I do like 99% of my prayer I'm fine and everything, I do my charity
and when I got this problem, I felt a little bit uncomfortable
so I opened the Quran Al-Hamdulillah God said
in one of the verses was saying that like take it easy, at this point God is purifying you
Rashad: that's exactly what's happening
Vicky: Al-Hamdulillah, you're right
Rashad: just like your dream
to answer your question Azar read 55 again, 55
Azar: at the same Sura 24, no. 55
God promises those among you who believe and lead a righteous life
that He make them eh
Rashad: sovereigns
Azar: sovereign
Rashad: means kings and queens, that's one word for it, instead of 2 words
Azar: right
as He did for those before them and will establish for them their religion
He has chosen for them and will substitute peace and security
for them in place of fear all this because they worship Me alone
without setting up any idols besides Me
Rashad: does that answer your question
Azar: pardon
Rashad: does it answer your question
Azar: yes
Rashad: substitute peace and security in place of fear
everything will be alright
Cecilia: what about Sura 22 verse 15
where it says, happiness now and forever
when let go everything,
and just depend on God alone and it doesn't matter what happens
it doesn't bother you
because this is the way God wants it
Rashad: unless you want to follow some other translation then you hang yourself
it is true
they hang themselves
22:15 is the verse they were translated unanimously in all the other translations as
if you don't believe that God can help you in this world and forever
hang yourself
really! I thought you knew that
Ok Cecilia you have to read it for us then
Cecilia: what! thank God I never saw that
Rashad: really! Oh
Cecilia: ... you like this, don't you?
Edip: there are several different interpretation on this, all of them funny
from each other, the other one says
let him go to sky and open a hole from the sky, and look at this...
Rashad: must be Ibn Khathir
Edip: so this is Maududi
Rashad: Maududi yeah, this is a contemporary Mofasir, he is most sophisticated
Cecilia: hilarious
lady: this is really good to show people how it's really been mistranslated
Cecilia: hilarious
if any thinks that God will not help him His apostle in this world
and the hereafter
let him stretch out a rope to the ceiling and cut himself off
then let him see whether his plan will remove that which enrages him
Azar: after he's dead
Rashad: now let us say you're a very careful person
who wants to follow the Quran to the letter
Cecilia: I'm dead, I'm serious
Rashad: just read it carefully and see what He is trying to tell you and do it
because it's important this is God's message to you
Cecilia: I'll be dead, I would have committed suicide ...
good God
Edip: Rashad, what did I do? no I criticized this there, in Turkey, also ...
Rashad: how dare you
Edip: ... this way, part of my critics I told them
this translator, I said if you think that you are right, now I challenge you
after you are dead, and then see either you're right or ...
Cecilia: now can I read yours
Rashad: yes of course
if anyone thinks that God cannot support him in this life and
in the Hereafter then let him turn completely to his creator in heaven
and server the dependency on anyone else he will then see that this plan eliminate
anything that bothers him I mean that is so clear and it's real
Rashad: that's the message of the Quran
Edip: in the context read from the words ...
Cecilia: yes it's in context,
this this is out of context
Azhar: ... their idol put Muhammad in there
Cecilia: yes they put Muhammad in the parentheses
Rashad: has nothing to do with Muhammad
Cecilia: has nothing to do with Muhammad at all
because even the ayat before is talking about God admitting the believers
and leading them into, you know, ... for righteous life
it has nothing to do with Muhammad
Rashad: [speaking Arabic]
okay well, go back to work and we'll see you In Shã Allah for Salat Al-Asr
Cecilia: In Shã Allah
here is your pillow Ihsan
Rashad: I was vice president of the Sunni Mosque then one day I told them
not to follow Hadith and Sunna so ... carrying that sign saying for sale
and I asked and I bought it
Mamad: ... something more here for example they must believe
job for example, the something extra ...
Rashad: we are doing it, ... definitely we expanded, Mosque was up to here
and then we added this part we keep expanding
and I think we need a new expansion soon In Shã Allah
Cecilia: it's getting there
Rashad: last Friday we couldn't find a place to sit down
Cecilia: ... sleep walking across
Rashad: I'm pretty sure In Shã Allah we'll take the whole block, ... turn it into a Mosque
audience: In Shã Allah, In Shã Allah
Mamad: we should do something
Rashad: we are
Edip: Rashad, we may go and invade the other Mosque
Rashad: No, I checked it out and the direction of Qiblah is wrong
so I said well, we will not take it
guy: you mean they did it wrong
Rashad: yes
they're looking northeast
guy: ah ah,
Rashad: yes
they designed the whole thing looking at Northeast, yes
Cecilia: magnetic North
Rashad: either that or we can just, you know if you can move it, ... we would do it
Ihsan: they went inside ... another sign ...
Rashad : yes, bzzz
Mamad: ... the land is a problem building is not expensive,
the land is not as expensive as ...
Rashad: where? here in Tucson
It's not expensive here,
besides nothing is expensive for God
like Carl Sagan says God has billions and billions
yes we mimic Carl Sagan
Emily: ... I understand it too
Mehdi: ... is the one on speedway?
Rashad: Ahmadia, Ahmadia
Mehdi: how many Mosque are there?
Rashad: how many
three, Ahmadia, how many Mosques?
yeah three Mosques, I thought you said how many Ahmadia are
there are also three Ahmadias
two of them imported
actually this is a surgeon an ISAPS, not surgeon
who is making a lot of money and he is Ahmadi, and it's good for his IRS
he built a Mosque and imported 2 guys to take care of it from Pakistan
so there are three of them here
Parivash: Rashad, last night somebody asked me if I am
in the street and I have to do my pray and the Mosque that is not belong to only God
and can I go there
Rashad: No
Parivash: I said no you can not
Rashad: because there is a direct commandment, saying don't
in a very strong way
لا تَقُم فيهِ أَبَدًا
Edip: people who love Satan go there
they cannot find any place they have to go there ...
Mamad: ...
Rashad: No
Ihsan: ... but automatically are going
Edip: because if you go there, worship ...
accept the places they worship there
Rashad: actually a house of Satan will go in the house of Satan to pray
Cecilia: No
because in Sura 9, really the commandment is very strong, I used to be not sure
then when I read this over and over
لا تَقُم فيهِ أَبَدًا
do not ever
Cecilia: you shall never
Rashad: do not ever pray
Cecilia: you shall never pray in such a Mosque
Parivash: I tried, you know they didn't believe what ...
Mã Shã Allah Edip just opened this verse it's very clear, nobody can ...
Vicky: about the kids that we were talking I have a sign In Shã Allah like
God is my witness, I'm not lying
first time with Dr. I met Dr. Khalifa
Makan was maybe three or four months and at that age the kid doesn't talk and he said
three or four times Allah, Allah, and then I forgot all about that
last time Dr. Khalifa came to our place and he had lunch with us
and then the first group left to Parivash's place and I went with my kids
and Mamad Parivash's house in the way we were so excited that Mamad start saying
Allah, Allah, like he was trying Zikring while he was driving
and God is my witness, I'm not lying
he tried and he tried in my arms he knows it
he pushed me and say Al, Al, Allah
and then I didn't say anything I was afraid I tell Mamad that
then Mamad said oh Vicky,
you know don't say it, I was just taking him and then he turned at me
said, did you hear ...
Rashad: yes, translation
Vicky: I think that's why, like the kids should ...
Rashad: oh they start very early ... Mehdi was not joking, one week
then it turns out in the mother's womb
they're listening to the Quran the Baruni kids,
they wanted Parivash's recordings
Cecilia: Elaha's also
Rashad: Elaha's, Mã Shã Allah
lady: Jahan was, Zikr in his sleeps, Allah, Allah
Rashad : sleep, yeah
this is amazing, Francisco sleeps here and then I got to wake him up for Fajr
here is a Chinese Mexican guy okay, he wake up and then he say
لا إله إلا الله وحده لا شريك له
what's going on here
because you don't think when you getting up from your sleep
your brain is still asleep
in fact when they interrogate prisoners
they want to hear the truth they wake'em up and ask them immediately a question
where is your army camping
three blocks from here
they cannot manipulate their brain
Parivash: one day my brother was in the army and he came home
and he was really he wants me to go like one of my friend a neighbor to bring him
to another city because were very difficult and he would sleep at the room
and I went to my neighbor he was the officer bring him to talk with me maybe I
and I went and I did
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