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This content emphasizes the importance of daily practices, self-reflection, and integrated training across physical, mental, emotional, intuitive, and spiritual domains ("Five Mountains") to prevent burnout, enhance resilience, and achieve personal growth in a complex world.

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It's good to see you all. Good to see

you, Dave. Uh, nice to see your smiling

faces. Thanks for being here. Uh, we're

going to wait, like Christian said, for

a few more moments. We had like 300

people, 340 or 50 enrolled. Uh, but as

um you typically about half usually show

up. So, we've had a little less than

half here in presence. Hopefully, the

rest of the folks will get to watch the

replay and participate in all the

goodness. So um any um

let me ask this who I had a couple

homework assignments. One of them was a

practice box breathing practice and the

other was six pillar assessment. Take an

honest assessment of those six areas of

your life and to ask um what am I doing

now? What can I stop doing? And what

could I add or change? So uh who was

successful in doing both of those? raise

your hand. Yay. Awesome. That's awesome.

Really well done. Um and of you who who

has a daily practice of box breathing,

so you didn't really need to add

anything. Okay. Awesome.

That's good. Most of you do. Really

happy to see that. Um did anyone have

any insights as to their six pillars?

something they wanted to um needed to

remove or add or are you guys all in

total balance? Yeah, a few of you did.

Good. Sometimes it's just you just need

a nudge to take a look at that stuff

because we get, you know, kind of

trapped in our ruts like we're, you

know, spinning gerbles and we're running

around and taking care of all of our

stuff. And um part of this practice is

to take a pause. And uh you can, you

know, you can consider this 2-day

challenge as a pause to reflect and

reset, but ideally, and we're going to

talk about this later, that's a daily

thing. And that's what our morning

ritual and the evening ritual are for,

right? The morning ritual is we we pause

before we start the day so that we can

win in our mind. And during that morning

pause, it's not just feeling good and

doing practice and getting all, you

know, like, oh, I'm in charge and I'm

confident. It's also being ruthlessly

honest and saying, am I on the right

track? Checking back in with your

purpose, passion, and principles and

saying, "Am I on the right track? Does

this feel right what I'm doing today? Is

my plan for today really the right plan?

Are there things on my schedule or on my

to-do list or task list which are going

to like keep me wandering off the

reservation in all these different

directions or am I on target? And

sometimes you have to make some tough

decisions there. So that's the morning

ritual. You win in your mind before you

step in the battle. But part of that is

to make sure that when you step in the

battle, you're doing the right things

for the right reasons and you're

maintaining forward momentum for your

earthly mission. uh as well as

maintaining a grounded presence in your

uh beingness, right? Your your I amness.

So you're not uh creating um conditions

for backlash, right? You might call that

karma or just you know in this duality,

right? We have we have uh consequences

for uh improper, ineffective or wrong

action, right? in raw action you can say

is just something that's not in

alignment with your purpose. I would um

submit that most people are blindly

going throughout their day doing wrong

action. Right? If you're if you're

fulfilling a job that's not in alignment

with your purpose, that's all wrong

action. You're going to have some

serious consequences for that. Right? If

you're do doing things that are out of

alignment um you know with with truth

with spiritual truth then that's wrong

action and there's going to be

consequences. So it takes like it's r a

ruthless examination of what's true and

what's right for you um in order for you

to stay in alignment with that. Right?

So we're going to talk a lot about

alignment and and how to avoid um the

consequences of that which you know at

its very surface level is burnout.

So good job. Uh the evening ritual is a

similar thing. I said it's not just to

feel good so you sleep well and get all

cozy and feel all spiritual and all you

know all you know like wow I'm really

doing this practice. It's the whole

point is a ruthless examination of your

day in retrospective. The morning you

look forward the evening you look back

and you say okay here we are. I'm

standing naked in front of myself. How

did it go?

What went well? Okay a few things went

well but guess what? there's a good

chance that more things didn't go well

because every time we go out into the

world, there's other human beings in it.

If you've noticed that, right? You've

noticed that you go to work and there's

all these other this whole cast of

characters. Each one of them with a

different perspective on reality. Each

one of them with their own traumas and

their own conditioning and their own

beliefs and their own blah blah blah

stages of development. And you guys,

everybody just clashes, right? And this

is like you're in a pinball game and

you're getting bounced around and you're

thinking, well, when I was on my

meditation bench or doing my box

breathing practice, everything seems so

clear this morning and all of a sudden

now I'm in the battleground and I'm

getting pushed around and people are

beating me up and I'm having to dodge

and weave and play all these mind games

and and and it's just messy and you make mistakes

mistakes

and then that mistake you you just kind

of tuck it away and you're like, "Oh,

bad me. I made a mistake. I I should

have been smarter or I should have been

wiser or I should have been more present

and I shouldn't have and so you then you

fall into the could a should have

wouldas and the regrets and the shame

and the guilt and all that stuff kind of

percolates into your background of

obviousness and it just layers onto you

all this crud. And so your evening

ritual is the time to like get your your

little scrubber out and you just scrub

all that crap off you and you say, "You

know what? that that was just that just

happened that way. Things are, you know,

all the platitudes, things are the way

they are. It is what it is. It was what

it was. It wasn't my fault. It's just

the insanely infinitely complex reality

of all these billiard balls clashing in

this thing called life. And at the same

time, I can learn from it.

So I can learn what when things don't go

well, they're not to my liking, by the

way, which is just a judgment. Why? And

let me maybe change my behavior or

change my attitude or my outlook. How do

I grow from this? And most importantly,

part of the scrubbing the crud off is to

rectify if possible,

right, any wrong that you did. It's very

12stepish this part, right? It's like,

"What did I do wrong?" Make amends and

do it immediately if you can if it's not

going to stir things up even worse,

right? You don't want to create more uh

more of a mess. So, if you can send a

text, say, "You know what? I could have

done better. I'm sorry I wasn't more

thoughtful or I wasn't more present or

you know, that was unskillful." You you

know, use words like that and um I'm I'm

going to do better next time. Right? So

whether it's your kids, your spouse,

your boss, your co-workers,

it's time to basically come clean. And

you know that that shedding of holding

all that crap releases enormous amounts

of energy and it helps you grow and it

helps them grow. So that's that's why

the evening ritual is so important. My

point here is building off of yesterday.

You don't have to wait till you know

once a year or once a month or quarter

or once a month to do this kind of deep

reflection scrubbing off the old you

know and and preparing yourself aresh

for the new. That's a daily practice.

Remember one day one lifetime. The only

day you have is today.

Start it out well and end it well and

then do it again tomorrow. And guess

what? Every day you're just getting

better and better, more and more clear,

more and more powerful, and shedding all

the untruths and all the from

your life. And that's the movement

toward freedom. So that's what we're

doing here. Um so thanks for doing the

work. Appreciate that. Today, uh we're

going to start out with guess what? A

little practice. Um super simple. And

then we're going to get into some content.

content.

And it's freezing here. So, I'm I'm

excited to do some squats to warm up.

You wouldn't think San Diego would be

freezing. Actually, it's going to be

like 70° today, but it started out in

the low. This feels like 40 something.

Weird. Okay, so if you're sitting down,

You've been to a if you ever been to a

SEAL fit or an unbeatable event, you

know that this is one of my favorite drills.

drills.

Right? You already know that I love squats.

squats.

Again, back to body first. There are

some master exercises, all body weight,

right? So, wherever you are, there's

your gym. Your body is your gym. You

take it with you wherever you go. And uh

we have some basic fundamental movements

that we need to train for effective

functional mobility and and um utility

in life. One of them is pushing. And so

with pushing, we can do push-ups. We can

do wall push-ups. There's all sorts of

things you can do with pushing. And then

there's pulling, right? So you can do

pulling like this through rowing or uh

or, you know, with dumbbell or we can do

pull-ups, right? And that's a really

valuable and useful skill. And then we

have squatting, right? Which is

basically, you know, the ability to go

down and up strengthening the hips,

strengthening the lumbar, strengthening

the knees, and even the ankles. And then

you have obviously core work, right? The

ability to sit up and to get up off the

floor. So, one of my favorite exercises

is getting up and getting down. And

what's the fastest way to do that, Dave

Weber? It's called a burpee. Right now,

we're not going to do burpee today, but

that's a phenomenal exercise. It covers

that full range of motion. All the way

down, all the way up, jumping, the hip

mobility, hip movement, you know, the

pushup. Like I don't think there's a

more perfect exercise than a burpee. My

point is you have no excuses because

your body is a gym. You don't need a

gymnasium. You don't need an expensive

um you know membership. Wherever you go,

there's your gym. So use it throughout

the day. I I can um I guarantee you if

you never went to the gym, but you just

did four short little workouts,

10-minute workouts throughout the day

just to kind of clear your mind and and

feel good about yourself, man, you would

be in the best shape of your life if you

did that every day. Four times 10

minutes, 40 minutes, even if you did

four times five minutes of 20 minutes

throughout the day, like you would be in

extremely good shape. So, what do those

uh five or 10 minutes look like? Well,

we call them drills. Right? Just like

what we did yesterday. What we did

yesterday is five rounds of 10 squats,

10 push-ups, and a 20 second plank. And

it was easy. But imagine getting a

little bit more efficient, a little bit

faster, breaking that sweat, getting

your heart rate up.

>> It took us about 10 minutes. And that

would be do that three times, four times

a day. So we want to demystify the idea

of um that getting in shape is hard. It

requires learning all these complicated

movements and barbell movements and all

this and you have to have a fancy gym

membership. All of that is just um

creates resistance,

right? You could work out in your boxer

shorts for all I care. It doesn't

matter. I work out in my jeans all the

time. The jeans are great for that. You

don't need to take time to change. And

it's again, think about this. It's just

the human body in motion. Your human

body, your body wants to move. it needs

to move. So, learn how to move it and

have fun with it. It should be playful.

So, anyways, the squat um we can add one

of the things about integrated training

is integrating not just different types

of movements, push-ups, pull-ups,

sit-ups, squat, etc., get ups um but

integrating the breath,

uh the mind

probably first with the breath. So the

mind is intention and clarity around the

movement you're going to do and the

quality of the movement. Right? So if

I'm doing a air squat and I'm thinking

about my bank account, that's not what

I'm talking about, right? So what I want

to do is I want to intend to do an air

squat and I want to think about that air

squat while I'm doing the air squat.

Does that make sense? I want to think

about the quality of my posture, you

know, the integrity of the movement,

right? I want to keep my mind this

mindfulness on the movement. Second is

breath. I want to move with the breath.

So like if I go down on an inhale on one

and I hold my breath and then I exhale

on the second one and I come up and I

hold my breath and I get all choppy and

then I don't even breathe on the third

one. That's not what I'm talking about.

That's ineffective breath control. What

I'd rather do is choose a breathing

pattern for the movement. And generally

you you naturally or intuitively know

what that is, right? If you're doing an

expansion, you're probably exhaling,

right? If you're doing or inhaling, and

if you're doing a contraction like this,

you're probably exhaling, right? Because

you're contracting your lungs and

whatnot. But it doesn't have to be the

rule. You can change it up. So, we're

going to do a squat with an inhale on

the down, which is counterintuitive,

and an exhale on the on the um

extension. Right? So we're going to move

with the mind focused on the movement,

the breath synchronized with the

movement. And then you can also use

sound. One way to use sound is internal

mantra. Right? So like in my head I'm

going I got this hya. I got this hooya.

Or I can verbalize it. And so that's

really cool when you're uh you need some

motivation or you're working with a team.

team.

So you know where I'm going with this.

So, we're going to do some squats,

right? Uh, again, modify as you need.

Take a break if you need. We're only

going to do 100. That's it. Simple 100.

But we're going to do them with an

exhale on the up. And when we get to 50,

we're going to add sound. And this sound

is hua. And hya comes from the seals.

It's the most profound word in the

history of humanity because it means

what you want it to mean.

How cool is that? It means what you want

it to mean. And what I say it's going to

mean is we've got this

easy day, right? We can achieve anything

we want to put our minds to, but we got

to train our minds. It means unbeatable.

Okay? That's what huya means. And the

hoo comes from the belly. And the ya is

like an arrow.

Hooya. Okay, here we go. Simple drill.

Let's get our blood flowing. We're here

as a team. We're going to do 50 just,

you know, down and up. I'll count them

and then we'll do 50 with a hoo-ya.

Ready? Ready? Right. I hope you can join

me. And uh here we go. Down.

Down. Two. Down. Three. Down. Four. Put

a smile on your face. Focus on

the squat. Nine. 10. Inhale down. Exhale

up. One. Two. Three.

Three.

Four. Five. Easy day. Six. Feeling good.

Eight. Nine.

20. Easy day. Huya. 2. 3. Go at your own

pace if you have to. Five. 6

7 8 9 30. Easy day. Feeling good. 1 2 3

4 5 6 7 8 9 40. Yeah, I just love it. 2

3 4 5 6 7 8 9 and 50. Pause.

Little trunk rotation here.

When you do the trunk rotation, nice

engaged core.

Okay, back to center.

Shake it out. Second 50. A little bit

more energy.

So, wherever you are, hopefully you

won't wake up anybody or cause anyone to

come and see if you're okay. But if you

need to use your inside voice, use your

inside voice. Otherwise, let it rip. And

we're going to get progressively louder.

Okay. Down. Hooya. Down. Hooya. Down.

Hooya. Hya. Hya. Six. Hya. Seven. Hya.

Eight. Hya. Nine. Hooya. 10. Hya. One.

Hooya. Two. Hya. Three. Hooya. Four.

Hoo. Five hooya. Six hooya. Seven hoya.

Eight hooya. Nine hooya. 20 hooya. One

hooya. Two hooya. Three. Hooya. Four.

Hooya. Five. Hooya. Six. Hy. Seven. Hy.

Eight. Hy. N. Hy. 30. Two more. One. Hy.

Two. Hy. Hy. Four. Hy. Five. Hy. Six. Hy seveny

40 rest let it rip 3

>> well done okay

okay

>> well done hya uh time to recover. When

you're done, you're done with the

movement. You're not done with the

exercise. So, come back into your body

and

get the body back into balance really quickly.

Feel the energy, feel the blood flow.

Notice how that combination of movement

with breath and intention and sound is

like an etch a sketch for the mind. Your

mind is super clear. Body's energized. Awesome.

Awesome.

100 squats like that. How long that take

us besides all the talk? Just just a few

minutes. Okay. Again, this is no excuses

zone. You can do that easily a couple

times a day. Easily. Close the door and

do push-ups and sit-ups easily. Right?

Just keep your body moving, which

improves the blood flow, uh the chemical balance,

balance,

improves your mood, everything improves,

and then you're going to think better.

You're going to make better decisions.

And instead of having that daily dip of

burnout in the afternoon because you're

just grinding it away, you get more and

more energy throughout the day. And

that's just going to help everything. So

that's the the physical mountain spot

drills. Okay. Um check. Moving right

There's three main things I want to

address today. Um,

Um,

again, this is um review for many of you,

you,

but why burnout happens

and better uh maybe more appropriate to

look at it from the other side is how to

avoid burnout.

And a burnout is like a fancy term for

just um in a rut like and it could be a

big rut or a small rut but all small

ruts are leading toward a big rut. So

how do you get out of the rut and avoid

ruts altogether? And then secondly is the

the

u turning your integration training into

a practice through the five mountains.

And so we're going to look again at the

FiveM Mountain uh model and I'm going to

ask you to kind of either start or dust

off your five mountain integration plan

and uh we'll take a look at that and

talk about some ideas and then just turn

our attention back to how do we execute

on a day-to-day basis to stay in flow,

right? to stay in flow to execute with

efficiency and um

agility and adaptability.

I would say you've all heard this but

like this is like high level right we

have volatility uncertainty complexity

and ambiguity and Christian put some

slides up so you can see them as we go

through this um so so at the highest

level you could say this is why we're

we're we burn out because

everything is so volatile and volatile

means something is changing really

rapidly. Like we wake up one morning and

suddenly we find out that you know we've

invaded another country and it's like

whoa we didn't see that coming and then

you wake up another day and something

else happens. You're like and it it

could be on the political realm, it

could be on the economic realm, it could

be you know in your social or local

community. It could be your family.

Could be your business. Maybe you got

you know a lot of people were you know

again politics because of its

invasiveness in our lives these days you

really start to feel the effects of it

even if it's not just not just

psychologically I mean like in in

reality like we we all felt the effects

of the politics of co we all feel the

effects not all of us some people felt

the effects of the politics of tariffs

right because I I talked to some

business owners who are like we had a

super large amount of uncertainty around

that because of supply chain disruption

So that's like a shock. That's volatility.

volatility.

>> Uh volatility is combined with uncertainty,

uncertainty,

right? The more volatile things are, the

more uncertain things are because you

don't know where the next black swan

event's going to come from, the next

shock is going to come from. So that

causes, right, internal um discord,

cognitive dissonance, and cognitive

dissonance causes anxiety. Anxiety leads

to burnout. Um C is the complexity of

things, right? uh in the industrial age

people thought things were solvable,

right? The whole idea of bureaucracy,

machine learning um and and um even even

leadership and management science come

from this view, this linearity that um

things were complicated but solvable. So

if I could just get a big enough long

enough Gant chart and figure out all the

variables uh and I can plan my way

through this so that you get things like

six sigma total quality management right

and and basically the whole scientific

management system that the military

devised was ported over into uh the

business world and then the Japanese

figured out TQM and how to you know

process improvement and that got ported

over into the business world. Um, and

that stuff all still exists today. But

just like uh I was talking to someone

yesterday in the VIP session who was a

six sigma coach. It doesn't it's not working

working

because we don't live in a complicated

world anymore. We live in a complex

world and and and the order of magnitude

be no complex isn't just more

complicated. Complex is a whole

different level of reality.

It's not solvable.

Does that make sense? It's complex is

not solvable.

That's the thing you got to get through

your head. You can't solve for complex.

There's just an infinite number of

variables and you can't the human being

at an as an individual level can't

possibly solve for that. That's why we

try to get closer to solving it with a

team mind because a team uh operating

you know at a higher level of awareness

through practices like vertical

development and unbuild mind has a much

better chance of solving for complexity

than individuals do and even then teams

can't solve for it. And then we also

have this thing called ambiguity where

there might be and there are several

paths forward. Uh all of them um

um with different potential consequences

and outcomes but they all could appear

to be viable. And that's challenging too

because we're used to having a clear

answer, right? Human beings, we just

love to have a clear answer like, oh,

this is the way. And ambiguity is when

either you can't find a way or there's

multiple paths forward. And we find that

today as well. So all of this leads to

to cognitive dissonance, right? It leads

to anxiety

and and cognitive dissonance and anxiety

lead to burnout over time.

Okay. So, how do we solve for that? How

do we deal with that? Well, um you have

to develop different types of skills.

The skills that work for VUOA in the old

linear industrial age and even the early

information age were the linear

horizontal skills that you found in

leadership development programs, better

strategic planning, right? for instance,

better communication

strategies, um,

efficiency and effectiveness, those

types of things. And as I mentioned,

they're not working anymore. So now we

need to develop the the inner qualities,

the inner domain qualities. So VUA prime,

prime,

which is the

the solution is to develop vision. So V

becomes not volatility but vision.

Right? So if you have vision, whenever

the shock comes in, it doesn't disturb

your vision.

Right? If you have a series of shocks

that then start to change the nature of

your understanding of reality as you

know it or knew it, then maybe your

vision will begin to shift. It could

expand or it could, you know, the vision

of what's possible might change. But

generally speaking, in the in the near

and middle term, your vision is your

vision. And whatever is happening in the

external world doesn't affect that. And

if your vision is clear, then regardless

of what's happening in the e external

world, right? You know, you know where

you're going, right? That's your north

star. But how do you develop vision? You

have to practice it. You have to develop

the capacity to sit in stillness to to

like ask for that information uh you

know from source from your heart and

also to to to develop the capacity to

see with your inner mind your inner

eyes. Those are skills like they're

they're very discreet trainable skills

that have just lain dormant in most

human beings. And so we need to develop

the ability to have vision.

The other thing is we need to develop

So what I mean by understanding is discernment

discernment

to discern what's really going on to not believe

believe

especially not the surface level stuff

that you're being fed. You have to

develop a very discerning mind that that

filters everything through the lens of

truth. And what that means is every

piece of information that comes at you,

you have to assume it's false until you

can prove it's true.

This is very different than the old days

of trust where you just assumed

everything is true until you verified it

as false. It's flipped. You have to

assume everything is false until you can

verify it is true. And this will lead to

great discernment,

right? And understanding around what's

going on in the vaua side of things

because you have to recognize that with

voua generally most of the time it's

mancreated volatility,

right? And uncertainty, right? It's

created by the

complex interplay of a lot of negative

thinking, negative forces, negative

structures that don't have your

interests as an individual

in mind. Okay? So, you need to develop

discernment which leads to greater

understanding. So you don't do knee-jerk

reactionary things and you don't buy

into herd mentality,

right? You need to be

the outlier, right? You need to be the

weirdo. You need to be the person who

says, "I don't know if that's true, so

how about I just hold off until I can,

you know, do some research, do some

thinking about this." Learn to say no in

service to understanding, to

discernment. And the C uh stands for clarity.

Clarity is something you practice.

When you have a clear mind, you can see

things more clearly. It makes sense.

Your mind is like a mirror. So if your

mind is all turbid and choppy and filled

with fear and anxiety, then what you see

is a reflection of that mind and your

your world, your life, your day is going

to be turbid, choppy, fearful. It is

simply how it works. That's the nature

of duality. You are a big co-creator.

Codependent arising is a word I've

heard. What you see

And so this is hard for people to get

because we're really talking about the

judgments, the misperceptions, even

miscreations like energy, energetically

things coming into your life that you

are attracting in. While at the same

time because of our language and because

of the training and the history of the

human race, we also have this consensus

reality that says, you know, I'm

standing in this warehouse and I'm

looking at a bunch of cameras and a

screen with your faces on it and if you

were standing here, you would likely see

the same thing. It's not like you would

see different color walls and and you

would see these devices and call them,

you know, jenkos instead of cameras

because you have a different No, we have

this consensus reality.

But everything else, judgments,

perceptions, meaning making is

completely based upon the quality of

your mind and what you're thinking, how

you're thinking and feeling.

And so in that regard, like if if we

were all standing right here, we would

have each one of us would have a

completely different view of what's

going on.

So So you're not going to have clarity

if your mind is filled with concepts

that are false or or uh inoperative or

uh suboptimal.

And you're not going to have clarity if

your mind is filled with fear, guilt,

shame, uh all the saboturs, right? And

you're not going to have clarity if your

mind is not able to hold attention and

it's bouncing around all over the place

with that monkey mind, which is your

default mode network. You're just not

going to have clarity. And so you're

going to be like, I'm so confused. Yeah.

So stop being confused. How do you stop

being confused? Gain clarity. How do you

gain clarity? slow down and learn how to

steal your mind, right? It's like your

mind is like a real choppy ocean and you

want to steal it so it's nice and calm,

right? So when you look into it, you get

a clear reflection back. You ever looked

into a a murky choppy pond, you don't

even see your face. But if you look into

a nice clear still pond, you get a

perfect reflection back. The mind is

exactly like that. Metaphorically

speaking, I shouldn't use the term

exactly. Metaphorically, the mind is

like that. So that's how we gain

clarity. Think all the practices we talk

about right will lead to vision

understanding and clarity. And then the

the the fourth one instead of ambiguity

we need to develop uh adaptability

and I you like to say agile

adaptability. So this would be like A2

So this is where we train ourselves to

be flexible, pliable, um to be able to

move fast and break things. And this is

what you know when it comes to

execution, which I'm going to talk about

in a little bit. Um we use like the udal

loop and we learned that we just have to

move fast in constant awareness, right?

Because no plan survives contact. So as

soon as you execute, you have to be

planning for change. You have to be

planning for failure. You have to be

planning for the obstacles. And then you

have to be executing, executing,

executing. In the uh business world, the

um expression of this is like most

viable product MVP or minimal viable

product. I'm sorry. Uh fast twitch

iteration. This is a term we used to say

in the SEALs. We have to have fast

twitch iteration. Meaning you you move

fast and you're constantly adaptive and

changing. So this is an outcome. You

can't do agile adaptability if you don't

have clarity, understanding, and vision,

right? It doesn't work

because you could be going in the wrong

direction all over the place. Agile

adaptability works because you know

where you're going. You have the vision.

You you have clarity because you you're

you have stillness

and you've got greater understanding

because you're able to discern the

And so you're able to cut a

much cleaner path through that agile

adaptability. All right. So this is the

in essence everything I say about

practice leads to this leads to vaua

prime practice practice practice you're

going to ultimately get here and um and

so the way to avoid burnout and ruts is practice

practice

and if you're not practicing every day

then you're not practicing right so

that's part one um

The other way we avoid burnout

is through greater alignment.

Of course, the practice will lead to

greater alignment. But you can also use

um your understanding of what I call the

three spheres or the four quadrants, but

we'll talk about three spheres um to

help you with alignment as a practice.

Okay. So, so the three spheres are well,

well,

The I,

the Wii,

So, what do I mean by this? These three

spheres or three domains, I'll call them spheres.

The it start there is objective reality.

Objective reality this is your body

performance. This is your structures,

your systems, right? Everything that has

a substance to it. The eye is your

subjective reality, right? Your vision,

your beliefs,

right? Your passion, your purpose, your principles.

principles.

and your witnessing ability, your

observer capacity. That's all the I. And

then the Wii is basically the collective

eye. It's like when we come together,

your team, your family, it had you have

an energy, right? You know, some

families are in discord and so the

wephere creates great um dissonance in

the individual eye. Does that make

sense? So, if you're a parent who's got

a kid who's um addicted to drugs, which

is a tragic situation, maybe some of you

experienced that. Um that that

dissonance in the Wii space of the

family has a huge effect on the I and

the IT because you're going to have to

have you'll have rules, right? You're

going to have uh boundaries. You're

going to have maybe even excommunication

to a rehab center. All that IT structure

is really ah man, it's hard. And it

creates cognitive dissonance in the eye

of both parents, I would assume, or

unless it's a single parent situation.

And that captures the mind of the

individual parent who's dealing with

this kid in the family space. And so

that's one example of how the I, we show

up, right? And they affect each other.

And so you can look at this in any

scenario. You can look at a corporate

setting. So you're in your business in

your team, right? If let's say you're

the CEO or or team leader. So your I one

of your roles as a is a team leader. And

so that you you put a lot of prominent a

lot of importance on that role because

uh because you're you are the the bread

winner, right? Or you're making money

and it's it's part of your identity. We

talked about yesterday. So, one of your

identities, you you have this identity

as an I am self, but then you have these

little role identities. And each one of

them, regardless of how hard we work,

uh, until you're a fully integrated,

authentic human being, you have a little

bit of a mask you put on still because

you you play the role. It's just like

you're acting in a in a play. You go to

work and you're like, "Oh, in this time

domain today, I get to put on this

outfit and I'm going to go act a certain

way that I've been taught because I

study people and I've gone to school and

it all teaches me how to act very proper

and professional and and say the right

words and you know and so I go that

affects my sense of self when I go into

that we space. I wake up in the morning

and I feel more free. I go to work and

all of a sudden I feel like I'm in a a

suit and tie. Why? Because you are. It

acts as a sort of a straight jacket on

your on your soul. So you you act in a

more narrow confined range because it's

psychologically you've just you just

redefined yourself. Your identity has

suddenly shifted. So that's how the Wii

space affects the eye. But then guess

what? Let's say you've got a co-orker

who's like a real negative nilly or

who's got a, you know, got a bone for

you and doesn't really wants to make,

you know, your day his day better by,

you know, crapping on your day because

we've all had that. And then suddenly

the Wii space becomes toxic and it

affects your eye. It affects your sense

of self. And you could let that affect

you for days or weeks or for the entire

time you're at that work. not

recognizing that that is corroding your

motivation. It's corroding your

identity. Um it's false, right? It's a

lot a lot of this is all based upon

judgments and misperceptions and not

open and authentic communication and you

just ultimately get to a place where

like you can't stand working there. And

it's because you allowed it to happen.

You took that to be true. you took his

his or her words to be true, to be

hurtful when you didn't need to do any

of that. You could have just smiled

internally and be like, "Oh, there he

goes again. Bob's playing his role

really well in this in this role. He's

playing the villain and I'm the victim

and I'm not going to play the victim

today because that's just a bunch of pooy."

pooy."

And you could maintain your integrity

without taking any of that on.

Just see it for what it is, part of the

play. That's that whole witness process.

When you learn, when you do the

practices and you develop the witness

and you see other people playing their

negative games and their drama loops,

you just have fun with it. You watch it

and say, "Wow, isn't that fascinating

that these people are so caught up in

their stories? I wish they could see the

world the way I see it because I am

above the battleground and above the

battleground like it's fascinating. Oh,

look. That guy's throwing a spear and

that guy's got the flamethrower. And I'm

up here going like, "Wow, this is

freaking amazing." Like, what a complex

play. How could anyone write such a

play? It's beautiful. It's fascinating.

And it doesn't affect me.

Doesn't affect me. And if if you have to

go interact with one of those characters

like your boss or that coworker who's

the negative Nilly, you just put your

freaking armor on. You got a force field

around you and they're throwing spears

and they bounce right off and some of

them bounce off and go back and hit that

person. It's like the Buddha once said

that if someone gives you a gift and you

don't accept it, to whom does it belong? Them,

Them,

right? So if someone tries to dump a

load of on you and you say, "That's

very interesting, but I don't accept

it." You don't have to verbalize that.

You just say, "I don't accept it."

They're left holding on to that and that

makes them even more uncomfortable

because they were hoping to unload it on

you and now they're just left with it.

Fine. Let them deal with it. That's

their challenge. That's their issue. You

don't need to solve their problem. You

don't need to make them feel better. You

take care of yourself. Stop being

codependent to everyone else in your

workplace. That's amazing how that

affects the I, the Wii, and the I,

right? And then, of course, the

structure of the IT in your work

environment, right? That has a big

effect on both I and we, right? If if

it's an open, playful, creative,

spontaneous structure where lots of

learning and creativity and expansion

can occur, then both the I and the Wii

are going to evolve. But if it's a like

a closed down bureaucratic, really

rule-bound system, right, with lots of

ways that you can screw up, zero

tolerance like in the Navy or the

military, then guess what? both the iron

that we start to get contracted and it's

very difficult to grow and evolve beyond

a tight structure like that. So back to

burnout if you're in a situation in a family

family

or a work setting

and it could be others but those are the

most prominent family work setting. Um,

it's important to place yourself right

here and ask yourself,

starting with these two, what is it

about the it and the we that's affecting

the eye, my eye, because if I'm

experiencing anxiety, burnout, right,

whatever, you know, insert name, right? Stuckness,

Stuckness,

um, anything, fear, there's a reason for

it. It might be just you, right? But you

have your practices for that. But

there's a good chance it's one of these

other spheres that is causing it or is

the instigator

in the Wii space. It might be the team

itself. Maybe you have a negative team

or maybe you have an environment that

like I said is really closed and

constricted, a rulebound non-growth

mindset environment. And that scenario

uh it's going to affect you. You're

going to feel constricted, constrained.

You're going to feel rutdded.

So the three spheres are a fantastic way

to really

analyze or use it as like an analytical

tool and say how are things going right?

What is it about the it that is helping

me open and expand and grow or or shut

down contract and become a smaller

version of myself? And what is it about

the Wii space the culture that is you

know is it helping me expand and grow?

Are do people have a growth mindset? Are

we all in this together? Are we a

community of practice? Uh maybe there's

there's the intention of that, but

oftentimes there's like one or two bad

apples which are poisoning the whole

thing. And so identify that and avoid

them. Put your blockers up or if you're

the boss, get rid of them.

And then the eyes sphere, right, is back

to like your vision and your witnessing

and and you know your story you're

telling. You can always change the story

that you're telling like I alluded to

earlier about accepting the gifts of

other people, right? What I mean, you

know, sometimes they give you a positive

gift, you say thank you. Sometimes they

give you a negative gift, you say no

thank you. That's part of your story.

You don't always have to accept what

other people give you. But we're taught

in our society to always say yes and to

to let people dump on us and to take it

personally. And that's a flawed

teaching, right? Don't take anything

personally. I think that's one of the

four agreements, right? Uh from Don Luis

Ruez, right? Be impeccable with your

word and don't take anything personally

because it's not about you.

All right, so that's that. And then

finally, I mean, there's other things we

could look at, but when it comes to

burnout, we can literally look at Carol

D's um

mindset, right? So, you have I think you

have the handout, but um Christian will

also put it on the screen. You might

have to put your glasses on to look at

it. But mindset, I want you to look at

the difference between the fixed mindset

and the growth mindset. Now, what's

interesting about this that DWE doesn't

talk about is you can have a growth

mindset in one area of your life and

have a fixed mindset in another.

Right? So like an individual could be

like really into personal development,

leadership development and be like I am

totally growth mindset but then be

really stuck in religious dogma or

really stuck in you know in their family

ruted belief systems without ever really

investigating uh those things. And so uh

I I I would maintain that uh most people

who think they have a growth mindset

probably don't. And when you look

through some of these attributes, right,

of a fixed mindset, avoid challenges.

Well, who doesn't avoid hard things?

Pretty much most people avoid hard

things. Well, hard things are where you

grow. So, a growth mindset accepts

challenges and moves toward them, looks

forward to them, right? Uh and in your

work environment, right? You might have

a fi you might have a very positive

professional high IQ PhD and master's

degree team and most people on the team

are going to avoid challenges. So are

they really a growth mindset team?

Unlikely, right? So it takes a lot of

work to have a a true growth mindset

team. Uh avoid growth opportunities. I

just said that you fear failure. People

who feel fear failure are have a fixed

mindset because uh first of all it's

false false evidence appearing real.

There's no such thing as failure.

There's only the failure to learn. So if

you haven't learned or your teammates

haven't learned that failure is a

blessing. Failure is how you learn how

not to do things or how to do things

better, different, faster, right? Um

then they're stuck. That leads to

burnout. Um,

sees effort as a sign of weakness. I

don't know about that. Resists feedback.

This is a big one, right? Um, the first

time I did a 360deree

assessment, you know, from my my

retirement team, like it was a huge eye

openener. Like I it just simply you

cannot see the way other people see you.

It's impossible because they're all

looking at it from a different

perspective. Every human being has a is

a different point like I call it a

different address of consciousness. And

so the addresses that you have are very

different than mine. So you're going to

see me differently than I might see

myself. And by the way, I can't really

see myself, right? I only see a

reflection of myself when I look in a

mirror. I can only see myself through

how others sees see me as a body mind.

Whereas I can see my truth only from the

inside. And that's my vision and my

understanding. So um when you have

people who come give you direct feedback

uh most people take it personally and

they don't like it. they resist it and

that's a fixed mindset, right? Uh

because they they've been taught to be

try to project this idea of being in

control and being perfect

any any of the saboturs, perfectionism,

judgmentalism, righteousness, right? Procrastination,

Procrastination,

um uh having to be, you know, whatever

the the perfect expert with this, you

know, that knows more than anyone else

on the team. Those are all saboturs

and uh people you need to learn how to

be be you know take feedback and realize

that you know you don't have all the

answers and that's good because that

leaves opportunity for growth and

learning. Uh you're threatened by the

success of others.

Um a lot of people have that subtle kind

of comparison going on a little bit of

jealous professional jealousy.

Let all that go right that leads to

being stuck. um static identity like we

talked about yesterday. Your identity

should be different every day, right? I

read a great quote this morning. I can't

remember exactly what it was, but the

gist of it was um

like don't expect

the same thing from me today because I'm

Right? You wake up in the world, the

world wakes up to you and you are now a

different person.

Now you occupy the same body and you

activate the same memories that you had,

but those memories now include a whole

another 24-hour cycle. It includes more

insights. It includes the practices. It

includes the interactions you had. It

includes the the learnings and the

failures and one day, one lifetime.

Every day is a lifetime

of learning and growth. a lifetime

because it's it's just presence

repeating itself over and over and over.

It's not really accurate to say that

it's just presence and then the mind

stretches it out and we and we track it

in this this construct we call time

which is just completely made up. Time

is made up. It's an idea in the mind of

the human. And so you have 24 time

blocks, each time block broken into 60

time blocks of a minute. And each minute

block broken into 60 time blocks of a

second and then of course 60 time blocks

of a millisecond. And every one of those

time blocks you are learning, growing,

changing, evolving. So you truly are not

the same person today that you were yesterday

yesterday

and nor will you be the same person

tomorrow that you are today. Wow.

Wow.

Just that could change your life. Just

that thinking could change your life. So

what does that mean? Today is it. Today

is what you got. Today's your day.

Yesterday was just a different version

of yourself. Different story, different

challenges, right? The only easy day was

yesterday because you get to think about

it however you want. You don't have to

redo it.

Tomorrow is a hope. It's a dream. You

know, it's a desire. Maybe maybe it's

something you're planning for, but it

doesn't exist

except in your mind.

Yesterday doesn't exist anymore except

in your mind. So what do you have?

What's right in front of you right now?

That's a growth mindset. When you get

stuck in the past obsessing about what

could have, should have, would have

been, and you get stuck in the future

desiring, wishing, hoping,

then you're missing the opportunity

that's right in front of you. And that's

a fixed mindset, believe it or not,

right? To be always in the past or the

present in your mind or past and the

future. All right. Um, static identity.

You don't want to get stuck in yesterday.

yesterday.

And the need for approval. This is a big

one. I've often said that peak

performers trade performance for connection.

connection.

So you're constantly seek our society is

a narcissistic society and it teaches us

to need to want to desire to crave some

sort of place that's different or better

than where we are right now. And that's

a total judgment

and that better is going to be basically

on some sort of social standard. So in

the academic world, you know, a a

bachelor's is better than associate

really and a master's is better than a

bachelor's and a PhD is better than a

master's. And so if you get those

things, then you're better.

And you believe this bull, right? It's

it's a total fabrication. You are not

better than anyone else if you get a

PhD, right? It's just fabrication. And

yet we chase these things because we

want approval. We want to be seen by

others as competent, as worthy. And the

problem is we're constantly chasing like

all these different measures of success,

which are all false measures. They're

all false uh gods, so to speak, or

idols. Like Jesus calls them false

idols. That's what he means. The PhD is

a false idol. It doesn't mean you don't

you can't en you know, for the fun of

it, get a PhD because you you need some

expertise for your career. But to use

that as a status symbol

and to compare yourself to others as

better than them because of the PhD,

that's false and that is wrong. Right?

And that's going to lead you to burnout

eventually because it's you're just

living a false story. Same thing about

having to have a certain amount of

money. Yes, I'm not against money.

money. There's no sane person that

wouldn't want the comfort that money

brings and the opportunities and the

ability to serve and to help others.

Like money is not wrong. Money is

awesome. But if you put money as a

status symbol and gauge yourself as

better than others because of money,

wow, then you're you're leading yourself

down a serious rabbit hole that will

lead to lifetime regret and maybe

generational regret. And of course you

see that as the norm, right? The, you

know, every kind of a million dollars

gives you some comfort level. Great. Uh,

it used to be that was like freedom. Now

it's more like probably five, maybe even

10. Wow, that's a that's hard to make

$10 million of liquid or or investable

cash. And so it creates this tremendous

amount of anxiety because everyone's

thinking, "Oh our our economy is

rigged, you know, because I in order for

me to be free, I have to I have to chase

Again,

it's not the money that's wrong, right?

It's the chasing for uh the um the

trappings of success and prestige that's

wrong. And you see this every layer like

someone gets $100 million, they suddenly

act differently. And then someone gets a

billion dollars and they act really

differently. And then there's those who

look at a billion dollars as like, oh,

that's pedestrian because I have 30

or$40 billion or eventually

Elon will be a trillionaire. Like how

what? It's just a big story. Anyways,

don't trade

performance and success indicators for

real connection. And the first

connection is with yourself, right? And

that's why we keep coming back to

practice. Get to know yourself. Practice

being who you really are. Know who you

really are.

And ultimately, you know, when you look

at like the practices we do in

unbeatable mind and the inner circle,

like, okay, how do we really know what

our purpose is? Well, how about you go

to the end of your life in your mind and

look backwards and say, how did I serve

most powerfully? Who did I serve? What

what was it that I couldn't not do?

What what is it that would have happened

naturally and spontaneously if there

were no obstacles? If money wasn't an

option, family was an option, if if

nothing could have gotten in my way, how

did I serve? What did I do? What did I create?

create?

What was I meant to bring into this

world? Right? That's your authentic self

in the context of what you're here for.

You're here to evolve and grow

and you're here to do that in a very

unique way, right? Which is your

calling, your purpose. So, anything else

that you think is important like money,

prestige, status symbols, rank,

hierarchy, being at the top of the

ladder, CEO, best dad of the year,

award, right? Uh, governor, you know,

superintendent, whatever. PhD, doctor,

lawyer, esquire, whatever. All of that

stuff is just

it's just noise.

It's noise. And often times what I find

is that's the noise that's keeping

people stuck in a rut, stuck in burnout,

full of anxiety because they're not

living their purpose.

Okay? That stuff should all be secondary

to purpose. If it comes, it comes. If it

doesn't, it wasn't supposed to be there. All right, so

All right, so moving right on. Um,

we don't have a ton of time because I want to talk a little bit about um, in

want to talk a little bit about um, in in a few minutes um, Christian is going

in a few minutes um, Christian is going to send you a poll out, but I want to go

to send you a poll out, but I want to go in and revisit the five mountains.

in and revisit the five mountains. So far, we've talked about the

So far, we've talked about the conditions for burnout,

conditions for burnout, vaua prime, vision, understanding,

vaua prime, vision, understanding, clarity, and adaptive agility or agile

clarity, and adaptive agility or agile adaptability. And we talked about the

adaptability. And we talked about the three spheres, how if you you can really

three spheres, how if you you can really kind of use the I, we to like center

kind of use the I, we to like center yourself in the center of that and say,

yourself in the center of that and say, "Okay, what's going on? Maybe

"Okay, what's going on? Maybe something's wrong with my vision. I need

something's wrong with my vision. I need to clarify my vision." Or maybe the

to clarify my vision." Or maybe the landscape is shifted. I need to change

landscape is shifted. I need to change my purpose or clarify my purpose. Great.

my purpose or clarify my purpose. Great. Take care of it in the eyes. That's your

Take care of it in the eyes. That's your morning practice and the evening ritual.

morning practice and the evening ritual. That's your daily practices. You know,

That's your daily practices. You know, you want to cultivate that. That's the

you want to cultivate that. That's the most important thing. But then you have

most important thing. But then you have the Wii space because like little

the Wii space because like little billyard balls, you're interacting with

billyard balls, you're interacting with other people in your family, in your

other people in your family, in your professional world. And so you want to

professional world. And so you want to be able to discern, right, what's

be able to discern, right, what's working, what's not working, who's the

working, what's not working, who's the negative nilly, how do I block their

negative nilly, how do I block their energy, and how can I improve this Wii

energy, and how can I improve this Wii space so it doesn't corrupt my eye

space so it doesn't corrupt my eye space. And then you have the it, which

space. And then you have the it, which is the structures, rules, roles,

is the structures, rules, roles, hierarchy, uh the all the trappings I

hierarchy, uh the all the trappings I was talking about. You want to take a

was talking about. You want to take a look at that and make sure that you're

look at that and make sure that you're not getting too attached to all the

not getting too attached to all the objective stuff uh which is going to

objective stuff uh which is going to take you off course from your true

take you off course from your true essential nature. Okay? And then really

essential nature. Okay? And then really reflect upon this idea of fixed or

reflect upon this idea of fixed or growth mindset. Um because we have a lot

growth mindset. Um because we have a lot of uh aspects of fixed mindset because

of uh aspects of fixed mindset because it's conditioned in us. It's conditioned

it's conditioned in us. It's conditioned by culture. It's even conditioned by our

by culture. It's even conditioned by our language. Um I would submit that most

language. Um I would submit that most people are fixed even if they don't

people are fixed even if they don't think they are. So, we want to basically

think they are. So, we want to basically make sure that we're free from all those

make sure that we're free from all those saboturs and that we can really really

saboturs and that we can really really accelerate our growth this year. The

accelerate our growth this year. The five mountains um you have I think this

five mountains um you have I think this handout, right, Christian? Do they have

handout, right, Christian? Do they have this handout? So, the five mountain uh

this handout? So, the five mountain uh plan is a way for us to to bring our

plan is a way for us to to bring our integrated training together and to

integrated training together and to actually write it down. So, there's a

actually write it down. So, there's a homework assignment. It was actually

homework assignment. It was actually more of a life assignment. Um there's a

more of a life assignment. Um there's a five mountain assessment. So five

five mountain assessment. So five mountain integration essentially is you

mountain integration essentially is you have this physical,

have this physical, mental, emotional,

mental, emotional, intuitive and spiritual qualities and I

intuitive and spiritual qualities and I use the term kakoro. So because we can

use the term kakoro. So because we can define kakoro. Kakoro means your heart,

define kakoro. Kakoro means your heart, mind merge in your actions and total

mind merge in your actions and total alignment with your purpose, passion and

alignment with your purpose, passion and principles. Um,

principles. Um, so,

so I'll put a K here. And I I I term these as mountains

And I I I term these as mountains because it it appears that like there's

because it it appears that like there's a climb,

a climb, right, to get there.

And it appears that the climb is progressive.

Um, that's not a great drawing, but it wasn't my strength. You see it on your

wasn't my strength. You see it on your screen there. So, climbing the physical

screen there. So, climbing the physical mountain is like we talked about

mountain is like we talked about yesterday is a daily discipline. You

yesterday is a daily discipline. You could call it a practice because like

could call it a practice because like box breathing is practice. Differentiate

box breathing is practice. Differentiate training and practice. Training is you

training and practice. Training is you have a plan. It's things you do. Whereas

have a plan. It's things you do. Whereas a practice is more um more subtle and

a practice is more um more subtle and soft and it's about becoming about

soft and it's about becoming about being. Training is about doing.

being. Training is about doing. practicing about being um it's like

practicing about being um it's like internal skills refinement hone honing

internal skills refinement hone honing things. So uh we train and we practice

things. So uh we train and we practice but then we say what are we training and

but then we say what are we training and practice and why well that's the five

practice and why well that's the five mountains we train ourselves physically

mountains we train ourselves physically so our body is really healthy and in

so our body is really healthy and in balance and which means our brain our

balance and which means our brain our heart and our gut are are healthy and in

heart and our gut are are healthy and in balance which means our mind is going to

balance which means our mind is going to be working effectively so that we can

be working effectively so that we can train it and then we begin to or

train it and then we begin to or simultaneous we begin to train the mind.

simultaneous we begin to train the mind. We train the mind through the box

We train the mind through the box breathing continuum, through reading,

breathing continuum, through reading, through reflective journaling,

through reflective journaling, contemplation,

contemplation, um discernment, developing that clarity

um discernment, developing that clarity and discernment and understanding,

and discernment and understanding, right?

right? So that those are the things we train

So that those are the things we train the mind for and then we climb that

the mind for and then we climb that mountain. And one of the things the

mountain. And one of the things the outcomes of that mental training is the

outcomes of that mental training is the capacity to observe and witness our life

capacity to observe and witness our life which includes our thoughts and

which includes our thoughts and emotions. And we begin to see those fear

emotions. And we begin to see those fear loops. We begin to see patterns and we

loops. We begin to see patterns and we begin to see things that are negative.

begin to see things that are negative. We begin to see truth. We see our story,

We begin to see truth. We see our story, right? And so there's like part one,

right? And so there's like part one, there's a part one human being which is

there's a part one human being which is like a child in an adult body and that

like a child in an adult body and that is someone who's never never questioned

is someone who's never never questioned their origin stories and all the all the

their origin stories and all the all the thoughts, beliefs, the background of

thoughts, beliefs, the background of obviousness that they have. And I would

obviousness that they have. And I would submit that probably 75 to 78% of

submit that probably 75 to 78% of humanity never questions it. So they

humanity never questions it. So they never have what like a leadership author

never have what like a leadership author Zilinsky called twice born or you know

Zilinsky called twice born or you know the idea that there's this there's

the idea that there's this there's there's you 2.0 and U2.0 is the

there's you 2.0 and U2.0 is the individual who suddenly sees that as a

individual who suddenly sees that as a story like I described about my

story like I described about my meditation experience in Zen. I saw the

meditation experience in Zen. I saw the entire story of my childhood, my young

entire story of my childhood, my young adulthood, my teens and my early 20s as

adulthood, my teens and my early 20s as a construct that was just spoonfed me

a construct that was just spoonfed me and and it wasn't who I was. I saw very

and and it wasn't who I was. I saw very clearly it wasn't who I was. And I was

clearly it wasn't who I was. And I was able to identify the attributes of the

able to identify the attributes of the construct and say that's not who I am.

construct and say that's not who I am. That's not who I am. That's not who I

That's not who I am. That's not who I don't even value that stuff. So I get

don't even value that stuff. So I get rid of that stuff and now I'm going to

rid of that stuff and now I'm going to um create a new story. I'm going to

um create a new story. I'm going to construct a new story. And so then I'm

construct a new story. And so then I'm moved into Mark 2.0. And that's what

moved into Mark 2.0. And that's what we're talking about with the emotional

we're talking about with the emotional realm, right? So you see the story and

realm, right? So you see the story and then you have to work on letting go of

then you have to work on letting go of that stuff because we we hold on to this

that stuff because we we hold on to this stuff, right? We hold on to our old

stuff, right? We hold on to our old story. We hold on to our traumas. We

story. We hold on to our traumas. We hold on to our our pet ideas and beliefs

hold on to our our pet ideas and beliefs and you have to learn to let that stuff

and you have to learn to let that stuff go. And that's hard. So it's a

go. And that's hard. So it's a therapeutic process, right? You got to

therapeutic process, right? You got to clear see the shadows, see the

clear see the shadows, see the negatives, see the fear, and you got to

negatives, see the fear, and you got to let that go. And this is where

let that go. And this is where forgiveness and acceptance and surrender

forgiveness and acceptance and surrender come in. And the emotional mountain is

come in. And the emotional mountain is hard. Uh it it requires a lot of

hard. Uh it it requires a lot of courage. Uh men in particular are

courage. Uh men in particular are challenged with it. And and most people

challenged with it. And and most people mo a lot of men that I know stop here.

mo a lot of men that I know stop here. They go a little bit into it and they

They go a little bit into it and they think emotional development is emotional

think emotional development is emotional control. And that suppresses their true

control. And that suppresses their true self further and then they put another

self further and then they put another you know they put some lipstick on it

you know they put some lipstick on it from there and consider themselves

from there and consider themselves operating as whole performance human

operating as whole performance human beings and then they get stuck in

beings and then they get stuck in another level of rut. Okay. So we don't

another level of rut. Okay. So we don't want to do that. Want to fully travel

want to do that. Want to fully travel the emotional mountain. Clear up all the

the emotional mountain. Clear up all the shadow, all the traumas, all the

shadow, all the traumas, all the that's holding you back. Scrub, scrub,

that's holding you back. Scrub, scrub, scrub. And as you do that, then you open

scrub. And as you do that, then you open up to your intuitional self. You're able

up to your intuitional self. You're able to hear these the voices of your of your

to hear these the voices of your of your gut and your heart and you're able to

gut and your heart and you're able to make better decisions because you're

make better decisions because you're living now from the inside out instead

living now from the inside out instead of the outside in. And then that leads

of the outside in. And then that leads to me to Kakora Mountain which is

to me to Kakora Mountain which is alignment with your calling, your

alignment with your calling, your purpose, passion or principles. Total

purpose, passion or principles. Total alignment day in and day out. That's the

alignment day in and day out. That's the five mountains. That's the theory. The

five mountains. That's the theory. The practice is that you have to train it.

practice is that you have to train it. So, um,

So, um, by the way, Christian's going to send

by the way, Christian's going to send you a poll. So, while I'm talking, go

you a poll. So, while I'm talking, go ahead and fill out the poll. Uh, got

ahead and fill out the poll. Uh, got about 10 more minutes and then I'm going

about 10 more minutes and then I'm going to, um, we're going to kind of migrate

to, um, we're going to kind of migrate out of this uh, training.

out of this uh, training. So, the five mountain plan is an it

So, the five mountain plan is an it starts as an assessment just like with

starts as an assessment just like with the six pillars. You assess where you

the six pillars. You assess where you are with, you know, stress management,

are with, you know, stress management, nutrition,

nutrition, exercise and movement, time in nature,

exercise and movement, time in nature, community of practice. You assess where

community of practice. You assess where you are and then you make adjustments.

you are and then you make adjustments. Well, I'm asking you to take an

Well, I'm asking you to take an assessment of your five mountains. Um,

assessment of your five mountains. Um, and say, okay, where am I? Let's do just

and say, okay, where am I? Let's do just do a fivepoint scale.

do a fivepoint scale. How am I rating on on my five? Let's

How am I rating on on my five? Let's this is a self self assessment

this is a self self assessment physically. If five is like a Taichi

physically. If five is like a Taichi master and zero is like an invalid, how

master and zero is like an invalid, how am I doing?

am I doing? Okay, you're probably two or three. Some

Okay, you're probably two or three. Some of you may be four and maybe five. I

of you may be four and maybe five. I think a couple of you are probably at a

think a couple of you are probably at a five. That's great. There's no judgment

five. That's great. There's no judgment here. It's an honest assessment. But

here. It's an honest assessment. But guess what? If you're a two, that means

guess what? If you're a two, that means you can be a three. And if you're a

you can be a three. And if you're a three, that means you can be a four.

three, that means you can be a four. Same thing with your mental development.

Same thing with your mental development. This is hard to assess because you

This is hard to assess because you you're like a fish in water and you

you're like a fish in water and you can't see air. But try to make an honest

can't see air. But try to make an honest assessment of your mental mountain. Like

assessment of your mental mountain. Like if you've been meditating for 20 years

if you've been meditating for 20 years and you have great clarity and

and you have great clarity and discernment and you're and you're

discernment and you're and you're lacking the the vaua drivers, you know,

lacking the the vaua drivers, you know, the anxiety that that crazy because you

the anxiety that that crazy because you have vision, understanding, clarity, and

have vision, understanding, clarity, and adaptability. Gosh, you're probably a

adaptability. Gosh, you're probably a five. You don't even need unbeal mind.

five. You don't even need unbeal mind. But if you're if you feel like you're

But if you're if you feel like you're stuck in a rut, you feel like you're

stuck in a rut, you feel like you're distractable, you feel like

distractable, you feel like concentration is a challenge, you don't

concentration is a challenge, you don't even know what I'm talking about when I

even know what I'm talking about when I say witnessing because you're completely

say witnessing because you're completely merged with your thoughts and emotions,

merged with your thoughts and emotions, then guess what? You're probably more

then guess what? You're probably more like a one and a half or two. Again, no

like a one and a half or two. Again, no big deal. That's why we're here. That

big deal. That's why we're here. That means you can improve. Great. Emotional.

means you can improve. Great. Emotional. If you've never done any emotional work,

If you've never done any emotional work, you're probably at a zero or 0.5. If

you're probably at a zero or 0.5. If you've been in therapy for 20 years and

you've been in therapy for 20 years and it's made great work and you've done

it's made great work and you've done different modalities modalities to clear

different modalities modalities to clear up shadow and trauma and you're feeling

up shadow and trauma and you're feeling very free and you have great acceptance

very free and you have great acceptance and love and surrender and forgiveness

and love and surrender and forgiveness for all things that used to perceive as

for all things that used to perceive as bad and you don't play the victim

bad and you don't play the victim anymore, holy cow, you're probably at a

anymore, holy cow, you're probably at a four or four and a half, maybe even a

four or four and a half, maybe even a five. Good on you.

five. Good on you. Same thing with intuition and kakoro.

Same thing with intuition and kakoro. Are kakoro. Are you in alignment with

Are kakoro. Are you in alignment with your purpose, passion, and principle? Do

your purpose, passion, and principle? Do you even know what they are? And are you

you even know what they are? And are you absolutely living your dream in regards

absolutely living your dream in regards to those? If so, you're rating very high

to those? If so, you're rating very high in cakoro. If you're if you lack

in cakoro. If you're if you lack clarity, but you're gaining clarity,

clarity, but you're gaining clarity, you're probably a two. If you're like,

you're probably a two. If you're like, I'm I've got a brand new sense of

I'm I've got a brand new sense of purpose because I did this last year or

purpose because I did this last year or two years ago and I'm really starting to

two years ago and I'm really starting to align with it, great, then you're

align with it, great, then you're probably a three. Room for improvement.

probably a three. Room for improvement. So, that's the scatteragramgram you're

So, that's the scatteragramgram you're going to do. um it's difficult to grow

going to do. um it's difficult to grow beyond the lowest number. So a lot of

beyond the lowest number. So a lot of people have a low number on the physical

people have a low number on the physical and also emotional and so that's where

and also emotional and so that's where you need to really put a lot of energy

you need to really put a lot of energy into your five mountain training plan to

into your five mountain training plan to bring those up. Ideally you'd have all

bring those up. Ideally you'd have all of them roughly the same. Like if you

of them roughly the same. Like if you were all fours I'd be like holy cow man

were all fours I'd be like holy cow man you have got some serious momentum

you have got some serious momentum right? You have serious momentum and

right? You have serious momentum and you're just going to you're just going

you're just going to you're just going to be flying this year. But if you got

to be flying this year. But if you got like a one and then a two, three, three,

like a one and then a two, three, three, three, then you need to work on that one

three, then you need to work on that one a lot to get it up to be on par. So you

a lot to get it up to be on par. So you so that then we can bring it all

so that then we can bring it all together. The operative thing that's

together. The operative thing that's going on here with fivemon training is

going on here with fivemon training is reintegration, right? So in the past,

reintegration, right? So in the past, you used to look at these things as

you used to look at these things as separate aspects of your being, right?

separate aspects of your being, right? You have your physical body, you drag it

You have your physical body, you drag it to the gym sometimes, feed it, you know,

to the gym sometimes, feed it, you know, don't pay much attention. Most people

don't pay much attention. Most people live from the neck up. Now we're going

live from the neck up. Now we're going to elevate that and say no this is an

to elevate that and say no this is an important body mind we're one so this is

important body mind we're one so this is really important the body's healthy um

really important the body's healthy um mental like we mentally people just

mental like we mentally people just literally read books listened to podcast

literally read books listened to podcast and went to school and that is all

and went to school and that is all basically about content and when I'm

basically about content and when I'm talking about mental development I'm not

talking about mental development I'm not talking about content I'm talking about

talking about content I'm talking about process I'm talking about how your mind

process I'm talking about how your mind works not what's in it and in fact I

works not what's in it and in fact I want you to empty of what's in it right

want you to empty of what's in it right that's emptying your cup and really

that's emptying your cup and really focus on the process of how your mind

focus on the process of how your mind works. Expanding your knowledge of what

works. Expanding your knowledge of what mind is. Heart mind, gut mind, whole

mind is. Heart mind, gut mind, whole mind. Whole mind is bringing it all

mind. Whole mind is bringing it all together. Left and right hemisphere

together. Left and right hemisphere work, you know, having both work in

work, you know, having both work in concert and uh learning how to

concert and uh learning how to concentrate, hold your attention, and

concentrate, hold your attention, and learning how to witness and observe your

learning how to witness and observe your life instead of be so wrapped up in the

life instead of be so wrapped up in the drama of it. That's what I mean by

drama of it. That's what I mean by mental development, the mental mountain.

mental development, the mental mountain. So, you you assess yourself and then

So, you you assess yourself and then you're going to develop your plan. And

you're going to develop your plan. And the plan is okay, how am I going to

the plan is okay, how am I going to reintegrate these? And what

reintegrate these? And what reintegration means is you train all

reintegration means is you train all five of these every day.

five of these every day. And and it's not as complicated as it

And and it's not as complicated as it sound. In fact, I encourage you to keep

sound. In fact, I encourage you to keep thinking simple simple simple because

thinking simple simple simple because when you train your body, you can also

when you train your body, you can also train your mind and you can also train

train your mind and you can also train the emotional mountain and you can also

the emotional mountain and you can also train the intuitive mountain and you can

train the intuitive mountain and you can also align it with your cakoro. Right?

also align it with your cakoro. Right? So, one thing can cross all five and I

So, one thing can cross all five and I uh hope that you can find several of

uh hope that you can find several of those things. Another example is box

those things. Another example is box breathing. When you do the box breathing

breathing. When you do the box breathing with a continuum that I've trained of

with a continuum that I've trained of arousal control, attention control, and

arousal control, attention control, and concentration,

concentration, witnessing, right, mindful awareness of

witnessing, right, mindful awareness of your thoughts and emotions, separating

your thoughts and emotions, separating from them, becoming non-reactive to

from them, becoming non-reactive to them, right? imagery work, trading

them, right? imagery work, trading vision.

vision. Um,

Um, then you're crossing the physical,

then you're crossing the physical, mental, emotional, intuitive, and cakoro

mental, emotional, intuitive, and cakoro categories. You're bringing them all

categories. You're bringing them all together in a single practice. And you

together in a single practice. And you practice that every morning and every

practice that every morning and every evening in your rituals. So, I want you

evening in your rituals. So, I want you to get serious about your five mount

to get serious about your five mount integrated training. And this is what we

integrated training. And this is what we like. It's one thing to do it alone in

like. It's one thing to do it alone in the um, it's better to do it with a

the um, it's better to do it with a team. That's what we do with our inner

team. That's what we do with our inner circle for these 90day sprints is we we

circle for these 90day sprints is we we we look at our five mountain training

we look at our five mountain training plan. We dust it off. We look at our

plan. We dust it off. We look at our three Ps. We dust it off. We iterate on

three Ps. We dust it off. We iterate on it, right? We look at our six pillars.

it, right? We look at our six pillars. We talk about the principles and we hold

We talk about the principles and we hold each other accountable so that you can

each other accountable so that you can make a lot of progress, right? In 90

make a lot of progress, right? In 90 days with that community of practice as

days with that community of practice as opposed to uh just trying to do it on

opposed to uh just trying to do it on your own.

your own. Um and finally,

Um and finally, as you're executing, um there's like

as you're executing, um there's like every day when you develop your plan,

every day when you develop your plan, I think there's two major aspects.

I think there's two major aspects. It's the plan for how you're going to

It's the plan for how you're going to evolve yourself, your beingness, and

evolve yourself, your beingness, and then there's a plan for what you're

then there's a plan for what you're going to do to move toward your uh

going to do to move toward your uh purpose, passion, principles to toward

purpose, passion, principles to toward your mission.

your mission. And that part of your plan I call front

And that part of your plan I call front sight focus. And front sight focus is

sight focus. And front sight focus is knowing which target to focus on. What's

knowing which target to focus on. What's the most important target that you're

the most important target that you're going to hit today? And then you use the

going to hit today? And then you use the skills of the big four breathing, right?

skills of the big four breathing, right? Mental management,

Mental management, visualization, and micro goals to

visualization, and micro goals to execute like with with precision on

execute like with with precision on that. And then the five mountain

that. And then the five mountain training is the what you're going to do

training is the what you're going to do today to evolve to make sure that you're

today to evolve to make sure that you're accelerating your evolvement. And so

accelerating your evolvement. And so every day you're going to have your your

every day you're going to have your your morning ritual and your evening ritual

morning ritual and your evening ritual which will include the box breathing

which will include the box breathing continuum or your version of that. We'll

continuum or your version of that. We'll include contemplative journaling will

include contemplative journaling will include some mindful movement, right?

include some mindful movement, right? will include proper so the six pillars

will include proper so the six pillars al also flow into that proper nutrition,

al also flow into that proper nutrition, sleep, time in nature and all those go

sleep, time in nature and all those go onto your fivemon training plan. So the

onto your fivemon training plan. So the six pillars kind of merge with that and

six pillars kind of merge with that and then you have other things you can put

then you have other things you can put on there for your emotional development

on there for your emotional development that might be more episodic

that might be more episodic like therapy or massage or EMDR or some

like therapy or massage or EMDR or some sort of retreat where you go deep those

sort of retreat where you go deep those types of things. psychedelic uh

types of things. psychedelic uh experience under um competent watchful

experience under um competent watchful eyes I might add. And so you develop the

eyes I might add. And so you develop the training plan and you execute it day by

training plan and you execute it day by day and you develop your front side

day and you develop your front side focus plan and you execute that day by

focus plan and you execute that day by day. And then the way to really

day. And then the way to really accelerate your execution to like never

accelerate your execution to like never see burnout again is to execute with

see burnout again is to execute with what we call the udal loop. And the UDA

what we call the udal loop. And the UDA loop helps keep everything in an

loop helps keep everything in an iterative fashion. And that's uh

iterative fashion. And that's uh Christian, you can put that up on the

Christian, you can put that up on the screen. That's like shown as an infinity

screen. That's like shown as an infinity loop where you take an action, right?

loop where you take an action, right? Think about how the udaloop and the big

Think about how the udaloop and the big four skills fit together. You got an

four skills fit together. You got an action. Most important target today is a

action. Most important target today is a presentation, let's say. So you see that

presentation, let's say. So you see that presentation, you're clear on it. You're

presentation, you're clear on it. You're breathing into it, right? Maybe you're

breathing into it, right? Maybe you're box breathing. Uh thinking about it,

box breathing. Uh thinking about it, you're visualizing it. You're

you're visualizing it. You're controlling your mind. and you're

controlling your mind. and you're talking to yourself positively and

talking to yourself positively and that's your micro goal. That's the one

that's your micro goal. That's the one major thing that you got to do today and

major thing that you got to do today and then everything else can fit around

then everything else can fit around that. You've got your morning ritual

that. You've got your morning ritual which is in preparation for the day but

which is in preparation for the day but part of that is to prepare for that

part of that is to prepare for that speech and then you go and execute the

speech and then you go and execute the speech, right? And you're going to have

speech, right? And you're going to have to basically observe how it's going and

to basically observe how it's going and you orient yourself to any changes like

you orient yourself to any changes like how the audience responding, how your

how the audience responding, how your how your mind is working, your

how your mind is working, your confidence and all that. and you orient

confidence and all that. and you orient yourself to that and you make small

yourself to that and you make small decisions throughout the day and you

decisions throughout the day and you adapt and you get through that speech

adapt and you get through that speech improving as you go through it because

improving as you go through it because you're executing with the udal loop.

you're executing with the udal loop. That's part of your witnessing

That's part of your witnessing awareness. You're constantly improving

awareness. You're constantly improving in action. You're not waiting to the

in action. You're not waiting to the end.

end. And then at the end of the speech,

And then at the end of the speech, right, you go back and you do a

right, you go back and you do a recapitulation.

recapitulation. And this is part of the udaloop. You're

And this is part of the udaloop. You're okay, pause. How did it go? What did I

okay, pause. How did it go? What did I learn? what went well? What didn't go

learn? what went well? What didn't go well? That's observing. What do I need

well? That's observing. What do I need to do different? That's orientating.

to do different? That's orientating. Orienting, I mean. And then I'm going to

Orienting, I mean. And then I'm going to take a different action with from a more

take a different action with from a more powerful stance uh next time, right?

powerful stance uh next time, right? That's the udaloop. That's how we

That's the udaloop. That's how we execute um with with like nonstop

execute um with with like nonstop improvement and we avoid the ruts

improvement and we avoid the ruts every day. It's not just your practices,

every day. It's not just your practices, but it's your front sight, focus,

but it's your front sight, focus, execution with the udaloop, and

execution with the udaloop, and awareness that help give you the vision,

awareness that help give you the vision, understanding, clarity, and agile

understanding, clarity, and agile adaptation that we need in this world,

adaptation that we need in this world, right? To to bas basically to um to

right? To to bas basically to um to navigate, right, the AI exponential

navigate, right, the AI exponential world that is on us, right? We have to

world that is on us, right? We have to be very fluid, very flexible, very

be very fluid, very flexible, very adaptive, very aware,

adaptive, very aware, clear,

clear, centered, present, which allows us to be

centered, present, which allows us to be spontaneous and creative. That's what we

spontaneous and creative. That's what we all are striving for here with unbeal

all are striving for here with unbeal mind to become the type of person that

mind to become the type of person that can thrive in VUOA that can thrive

can thrive in VUOA that can thrive because we're completely aligned and

because we're completely aligned and we're clear and we have the vision for

we're clear and we have the vision for where we're going and we can operate

where we're going and we can operate really fast

really fast because we're not afraid of failure.

because we're not afraid of failure. Hooya. All right. Uh I I mentioned um

Hooya. All right. Uh I I mentioned um working with us a couple times as a

working with us a couple times as a community of practice as a tribe and

community of practice as a tribe and it's really an incredible experience. If

it's really an incredible experience. If you have uh the desire to really check

you have uh the desire to really check take it up a notch this year and the

take it up a notch this year and the inclination to work with me, what we've

inclination to work with me, what we've done is we've taken a 12-year program

done is we've taken a 12-year program 12-month program and we've chunked it up

12-month program and we've chunked it up into quarterly, you know, sprints, if

into quarterly, you know, sprints, if you will. probably not the right word,

you will. probably not the right word, but quarterly um time blocks where uh

but quarterly um time blocks where uh you can come like because 90 days a year

you can come like because 90 days a year is a long time and people are having

is a long time and people are having trouble like committing to that or even

trouble like committing to that or even imagining that. So 90 days though,

imagining that. So 90 days though, imagine like a 90-day challenge, a

imagine like a 90-day challenge, a 90-day block where you're really going

90-day block where you're really going to go deep and you have the support and

to go deep and you have the support and and training from me and some coaches.

and training from me and some coaches. We call it the inner circle. So I'm

We call it the inner circle. So I'm going to have uh Christian explain what

going to have uh Christian explain what it is and uh if you're interested, I'd

it is and uh if you're interested, I'd love to have you in. I'd love to see you

love to have you in. I'd love to see you uh either now or um sometime this year

uh either now or um sometime this year and that'd be amazing. If not, we also

and that'd be amazing. If not, we also have a mental toughness coach

have a mental toughness coach certification which is incredible. If

certification which is incredible. If you're a coach and you want to add that

you're a coach and you want to add that to your repertoire, then please uh join

to your repertoire, then please uh join us for that. And um learn, you know,

us for that. And um learn, you know, send us an email to learn more about

send us an email to learn more about that. And also, we have a community on a

that. And also, we have a community on a platform called School. Some of you are

platform called School. Some of you are familiar with that. Um it's it's going

familiar with that. Um it's it's going to replace eventually the Mighty

to replace eventually the Mighty Networks platform, but probably not for

Networks platform, but probably not for a while. uh year or more. And um it's a

a while. uh year or more. And um it's a way to engage all my courses, right? Our

way to engage all my courses, right? Our foundation course, the way of the seal

foundation course, the way of the seal course, our 30-day uh reset course, as

course, our 30-day uh reset course, as well as the uh coach certification stuff

well as the uh coach certification stuff and u and a new course coming up. We Oh,

and u and a new course coming up. We Oh, yeah. Okay.

yeah. Okay. We got lots more coming up. We have a

We got lots more coming up. We have a course on nutrition with Melanie there.

course on nutrition with Melanie there. I see you, Mel. Hi. Good to see you.

I see you, Mel. Hi. Good to see you. And she's gonna join us next session.

And she's gonna join us next session. All right. So, I'm going to turn it over

All right. So, I'm going to turn it over to Christian and those of you who are

to Christian and those of you who are staying for the next session with the

staying for the next session with the premium VIP group for Q&A and coaching.

premium VIP group for Q&A and coaching. I will see you soon. Thank you so much.

I will see you soon. Thank you so much. Huya.

Huya. >> Perfect. Hya. Everyone want to take

>> Perfect. Hya. Everyone want to take themselves off of mute and just give a

themselves off of mute and just give a round of applause to our coach, leader,

round of applause to our coach, leader, teacher,

teacher, Mark Divine.

Mark Divine. >> Yeah, coach.

>> Yeah, coach. >> Give him a loud July.

>> Give him a loud July. >> Thanks, coach. Coach, coach,

>> Thanks, coach. Coach, coach, >> thank you.

>> thank you. >> Booyah.

>> Booyah. >> All right, Mark's going to be getting

>> All right, Mark's going to be getting ready for um the VIP session, but I just

ready for um the VIP session, but I just wanted to I I showed this yesterday to

wanted to I I showed this yesterday to um to the VIPs, but I wanted to kind of

um to the VIPs, but I wanted to kind of break this down a little bit further. We

break this down a little bit further. We have one of the master coaches, Mel, in

have one of the master coaches, Mel, in the video chat with you guys today to

the video chat with you guys today to also walk alongside us if you guys had

also walk alongside us if you guys had any questions about what actually goes

any questions about what actually goes on within these programs um kind of from

on within these programs um kind of from a coaching perspective. Um Mel would be

a coaching perspective. Um Mel would be able to answer some of those questions

able to answer some of those questions here and then you can also follow up

here and then you can also follow up with her um off on the sidelines by

with her um off on the sidelines by email um or phone call. We can

email um or phone call. We can definitely get something on the

definitely get something on the calendar. So, I just wanted to walk that

calendar. So, I just wanted to walk that through with you guys really really

through with you guys really really quickly. Um, you know, some of you guys,

quickly. Um, you know, some of you guys, you you guys took this challenge, right?

you you guys took this challenge, right? Uh, feeling some inspiration. Um, and

Uh, feeling some inspiration. Um, and you guys definitely got that according

you guys definitely got that according to the polls that you guys are still

to the polls that you guys are still filling out. Thank you all for

filling out. Thank you all for submitting your polls. Um, and I know

submitting your polls. Um, and I know that, you know, here in question five,

that, you know, here in question five, some of you guys are looking for more

some of you guys are looking for more structure and accountability, you know,

structure and accountability, you know, continued guidance, coaching, you know,

continued guidance, coaching, you know, strong community. Um, so thank you for

strong community. Um, so thank you for being honest here. You know, some of you

being honest here. You know, some of you guys said not sure yet or, you know, not

guys said not sure yet or, you know, not ready at this time. And so I just wanted

ready at this time. And so I just wanted to walk through like Mark's been saying,

to walk through like Mark's been saying, um, you know, he has this inner circle

um, you know, he has this inner circle coaching that really dives deep um into

coaching that really dives deep um into uh the practices. Um, usually it's

uh the practices. Um, usually it's offered as a year-long program, a

offered as a year-long program, a year-long commitment, but he wanted to

year-long commitment, but he wanted to give you guys a nice quick break and not

give you guys a nice quick break and not have to also put so much financial

have to also put so much financial strain on you guys. Um, this is a a

strain on you guys. Um, this is a a training program that he charges

training program that he charges organizations, you know, 50,000,

organizations, you know, 50,000, $100,000 plus to implement within their

$100,000 plus to implement within their companies. Um, and so he wanted to give

companies. Um, and so he wanted to give you guys this this gift, this offering.

you guys this this gift, this offering. um you know to start the the new year

um you know to start the the new year off. And so we have the 90-day

off. And so we have the 90-day implementation um of this inner circle

implementation um of this inner circle coaching which includes uh weekly

coaching which includes uh weekly 50minute uh alignment calls with Mark

50minute uh alignment calls with Mark and the team installing the big fours as

and the team installing the big fours as Mark's been pointing to. Um really

Mark's been pointing to. Um really getting into the nitty-g gritties of the

getting into the nitty-g gritties of the five mountain pillars um as well as all

five mountain pillars um as well as all of the six pillars that we talked about

of the six pillars that we talked about on day one. Um, and really every single

on day one. Um, and really every single kind of framework, you know, the fits,

kind of framework, you know, the fits, the udaloops, the, you know, every

the udaloops, the, you know, every single framework that Mark references in

single framework that Mark references in Unbeatable Mind, Way of the Seal, um,

Unbeatable Mind, Way of the Seal, um, Staring Down the Wolf, etc. Um, for

Staring Down the Wolf, etc. Um, for those of you that have read his books

those of you that have read his books and whatnot. Um, this will also include

and whatnot. Um, this will also include a private VIP community,

a private VIP community, um, which is only going to include his

um, which is only going to include his private clients, the inner circle

private clients, the inner circle clients, uh, master coaches, um, and

clients, uh, master coaches, um, and coaches in training. Um, and this allows

coaches in training. Um, and this allows you also to experience hot seat coaching

you also to experience hot seat coaching similar to what we do with the VIP uh

similar to what we do with the VIP uh portion of this unbeatable leader

portion of this unbeatable leader challenge except for a small group

challenge except for a small group setting. We have I believe seven people

setting. We have I believe seven people right now in the inner circle and we're

right now in the inner circle and we're looking to bring on only 30 um inner

looking to bring on only 30 um inner circle coaching clients so that we can

circle coaching clients so that we can really dive deep. This is really um you

really dive deep. This is really um you know a a real deep dive with Mark and

know a a real deep dive with Mark and his team to to be able to give the most

his team to to be able to give the most value to this small group setting while

value to this small group setting while being able to hold all of you guys

being able to hold all of you guys accountable at the same time.

accountable at the same time. >> And so I know some of you guys, you

>> And so I know some of you guys, you know, you guys looked at the growth

know, you guys looked at the growth mindset versus the fixed mindset. Um,

mindset versus the fixed mindset. Um, you know, like I said, this is a program

you know, like I said, this is a program that he normally would implement to a

that he normally would implement to a team, an organization that costs, you

team, an organization that costs, you know, upwards of $30,000, $50,000,

know, upwards of $30,000, $50,000, $100,000 to implement within an

$100,000 to implement within an organization, you can get it today for

organization, you can get it today for only $5,000

only $5,000 um or three payments of 1997. Uh, if you

um or three payments of 1997. Uh, if you guys have any, uh, have any questions

guys have any, uh, have any questions about it, um, you guys can definitely

about it, um, you guys can definitely email me more and we can hop on a phone

email me more and we can hop on a phone call. Um, I'll probably be doing some

call. Um, I'll probably be doing some outreach to you guys. Um, based on these

outreach to you guys. Um, based on these polls, you guys were looking for some

polls, you guys were looking for some clear structure. A lot of you guys were

clear structure. A lot of you guys were looking for some clear structure and

looking for some clear structure and accountability, continued guidance, and

accountability, continued guidance, and a strong community. And so, this is a a

a strong community. And so, this is a a high level um, I would also say like

high level um, I would also say like also broken down, right, deep dive uh,

also broken down, right, deep dive uh, type of program that's offered for you

type of program that's offered for you guys. But as Mark alluded to, we also

guys. But as Mark alluded to, we also have the school program. And so I just

have the school program. And so I just want to walk this through you guys as

want to walk this through you guys as well. Um this might be a little bit more

well. Um this might be a little bit more feasible for most of you guys um that

feasible for most of you guys um that may be concerned with uh price at this

may be concerned with uh price at this time. And so uh in this program I'm

time. And so uh in this program I'm going to just walk you through the exact

going to just walk you through the exact process when you come to school.com

process when you come to school.com or unbeatable-mastery.tribe.

Um you're going to be able to start your free trial. It's also going to be linked

free trial. It's also going to be linked in um your emails that are going to be

in um your emails that are going to be placed at the end of today. So, you're

placed at the end of today. So, you're going to start your free trial and

going to start your free trial and you're going to have three options to

you're going to have three options to choose here from. So, for those of you

choose here from. So, for those of you that said, you know, time to implement

that said, you know, time to implement on my own in the poll, which is eight of

on my own in the poll, which is eight of you, um you guys can start here, right,

you, um you guys can start here, right, with is uh $49 a month. This is after

with is uh $49 a month. This is after your 7-day free trial. You're going to

your 7-day free trial. You're going to get access to the leader challenges,

get access to the leader challenges, every single leader challenge. um access

every single leader challenge. um access to the 30-day uh reset, which the leader

to the 30-day uh reset, which the leader challenge in itself is going to be $49

challenge in itself is going to be $49 um every time that we do it moving

um every time that we do it moving forward. And so just that in itself

forward. And so just that in itself already covers this. Um you also get

already covers this. Um you also get access to the foundations course, way of

access to the foundations course, way of the seal course, and 30-day reset

the seal course, and 30-day reset challenge. Um here in the 119 premium

challenge. Um here in the 119 premium section, um you get what's called

section, um you get what's called performance coaching, which is a small

performance coaching, which is a small group setting as well. usually about 50

group setting as well. usually about 50 people to 75 people show up for those

people to 75 people show up for those calls. Um, and you're going to be able

calls. Um, and you're going to be able to get hot seat Q&A with Mark and team.

to get hot seat Q&A with Mark and team. And then here in this uh $4.99 per

And then here in this uh $4.99 per month, which is also offered at an

month, which is also offered at an annual $49.99 or $49.97, sorry. Uh, that

annual $49.99 or $49.97, sorry. Uh, that one's going to include the mental

one's going to include the mental toughness coaching certification. So,

toughness coaching certification. So, for those of you that feel called and

for those of you that feel called and led to become a coach, to become a

led to become a coach, to become a trainer, to really encapsulate all of

trainer, to really encapsulate all of the unbeatable uh mind frameworks and

the unbeatable uh mind frameworks and the unbeatable operating system, and you

the unbeatable operating system, and you want to learn how to coach that, um, you

want to learn how to coach that, um, you know, that's something like Mel, right,

know, that's something like Mel, right, uh, eventually became, and now she's a

uh, eventually became, and now she's a master coach. She's the one that leads

master coach. She's the one that leads trainings for the unbeatable experiences

trainings for the unbeatable experiences alongside with Rob and Boomer. Um, and

alongside with Rob and Boomer. Um, and so this is an opportunity for you guys

so this is an opportunity for you guys to get uh plugged in um through the

to get uh plugged in um through the mental toughness coaching certification.

mental toughness coaching certification. So I'm going to log in here so I can

So I'm going to log in here so I can show you guys

show you guys exactly what that looks like. So when I

exactly what that looks like. So when I join VIP,

join VIP, I'm going to get access to this

I'm going to get access to this community where you're going to get

community where you're going to get notified. You know, unbeatable leader

notified. You know, unbeatable leader challenge is happening right now. Then

challenge is happening right now. Then you also have um the discussion section

you also have um the discussion section where we are looking to ramp up right

where we are looking to ramp up right now. Um everyone getting uh daily

now. Um everyone getting uh daily habits, daily practices, daily

habits, daily practices, daily reflections um and also just a place for

reflections um and also just a place for you guys to hold each other accountable.

you guys to hold each other accountable. You guys will also have the access to

You guys will also have the access to the classrooms which will include all of

the classrooms which will include all of these courses. And then those who sign

these courses. And then those who sign up for the VIP will get access to the

up for the VIP will get access to the mental toughness coaching certification.

mental toughness coaching certification. And it'll look like this where you'll

And it'll look like this where you'll have lessons, breakdowns,

have lessons, breakdowns, um challenges all throughout and how to

um challenges all throughout and how to implement this uh for your clients. If

implement this uh for your clients. If you are going towards the coaching

you are going towards the coaching certification route, you also have the

certification route, you also have the calendar which will give you the time

calendar which will give you the time blocks of when we're going to have the

blocks of when we're going to have the performance coaching, mental toughness

performance coaching, mental toughness coaching certification um uh um webinars

coaching certification um uh um webinars and also the unbeatable leader

and also the unbeatable leader challenges here.

challenges here. And yes, that is pretty much everything

And yes, that is pretty much everything for those of you that were looking for,

for those of you that were looking for, you know, a lot deeper dive into,

you know, a lot deeper dive into, um, you know, Mark's direct training and

um, you know, Mark's direct training and accountability with a small group

accountability with a small group setting. Um, we do have this one

setting. Um, we do have this one available right today and it's only

available right today and it's only offered to you guys. Uh, it's not going

offered to you guys. Uh, it's not going to be offered to the public at this

to be offered to the public at this price for $49.97. You guys can email me

price for $49.97. You guys can email me about that if you guys have any

about that if you guys have any questions at all. We do not want to

questions at all. We do not want to limit the opportunities for you guys to

limit the opportunities for you guys to engage this community. So, if you have

engage this community. So, if you have any type of constraints um at all, just

any type of constraints um at all, just go ahead and email me and we can

go ahead and email me and we can definitely negotiate discuss things

definitely negotiate discuss things because Mark wants to get this program

because Mark wants to get this program and all of his training in the hands of

and all of his training in the hands of 1 million people this year. Um whether

1 million people this year. Um whether that be through school, whether that be

that be through school, whether that be through inner circle, whether that be

through inner circle, whether that be through you guys being coaches and

through you guys being coaches and getting your own coaching clients, you

getting your own coaching clients, you know, that's a reflection of Mark and

know, that's a reflection of Mark and his unbeatable programs al together as

his unbeatable programs al together as well. Um so from a top- down

well. Um so from a top- down perspective, those that are really

perspective, those that are really ready, really feeling called, really

ready, really feeling called, really feeling like they need clear structure,

feeling like they need clear structure, accountability, and strong guidance from

accountability, and strong guidance from a very tight-knit community, this is

a very tight-knit community, this is going to be the program for you. if you

going to be the program for you. if you guys want general accountability

guys want general accountability um and you know opportunities to kind of

um and you know opportunities to kind of do work on your own time um and also

do work on your own time um and also still be an encouragement to others join

still be an encouragement to others join the school community right it's a

the school community right it's a lowcost community allows you to really

lowcost community allows you to really engage with one another gives you access

engage with one another gives you access uh pretty good access to Mark's

uh pretty good access to Mark's trainings you know weekly etc or monthly

trainings you know weekly etc or monthly um and yeah so go ahead and email me

um and yeah so go ahead and email me when you get the chance. Today and only

when you get the chance. Today and only today um will the inner circle be

today um will the inner circle be offered at this price.

offered at this price. And so uh but if you guys want access to

And so uh but if you guys want access to the unbeatable tribe, you guys can

the unbeatable tribe, you guys can definitely go check that out on

definitely go check that out on school.com and I'll link um both of

school.com and I'll link um both of these in the chat. All right. So, let me

these in the chat. All right. So, let me go ahead and do that really quick and

go ahead and do that really quick and then we are going to hop back in

then we are going to hop back in to

I hope you guys feel more calm, clear, and ready to execute. I will go ahead

and ready to execute. I will go ahead and link my email here as well. Mel just

and link my email here as well. Mel just linked her email as well. Um, I'm going

linked her email as well. Um, I'm going to link my email. So, if you want to get

to link my email. So, if you want to get time on the calendar with either one of

time on the calendar with either one of us to discuss more, um, we both just

us to discuss more, um, we both just dropped our emails there, but we

dropped our emails there, but we definitely want to respect the VIP

definitely want to respect the VIP session. Um, we have a special guest

session. Um, we have a special guest here that I haven't seen in several

here that I haven't seen in several months now that I'm super excited to see

months now that I'm super excited to see here in person in studio. Um, and super

here in person in studio. Um, and super excited to bring into the VIP. Um, gas

excited to bring into the VIP. Um, gas feel welcome to go ahead and stick

feel welcome to go ahead and stick around like we did yesterday. Um, VIPs,

around like we did yesterday. Um, VIPs, um, we are going to go ahead and hop

um, we are going to go ahead and hop into this next section here in just a

into this next section here in just a moment. So, I'm going to go ahead and

moment. So, I'm going to go ahead and flip the camera around.

flip the camera around. Mark, whenever you're ready, we're gonna

Mark, whenever you're ready, we're gonna go ahead and uh hop into this VIP

go ahead and uh hop into this VIP session. All right.

>> Ready? >> All right. Um, go ahead and take

>> All right. Um, go ahead and take yourselves off of mute and give Mark a

yourselves off of mute and give Mark a nice hooya.

nice hooya. >> Hooya. Everybody,

>> Hooya. Everybody, >> welcome back. Good to see you, Mel.

>> welcome back. Good to see you, Mel. Thanks for joining us. Great to see you.

Thanks for joining us. Great to see you. Awesome.

Awesome. >> Great to see you guys.

>> Great to see you guys. >> Yeah, thanks.

>> Yeah, thanks. >> Um that was a fun session uh the last

>> Um that was a fun session uh the last two days, right? We we've covered a lot

two days, right? We we've covered a lot of territory. A lot of territory. So let

of territory. A lot of territory. So let that you know um digest, right? Atoysis

that you know um digest, right? Atoysis is the is digesting information, right?

is the is digesting information, right? So let the information digest and sit

So let the information digest and sit with it and journal the next few days

with it and journal the next few days and um see what kind of lights up for

and um see what kind of lights up for you, right? It's not everything. It's

you, right? It's not everything. It's going to be one or two things that are

going to be one or two things that are like, "Oh, yeah. That's that's what I

like, "Oh, yeah. That's that's what I needed to hear." So, you should be able

needed to hear." So, you should be able to come up with like a number of things

to come up with like a number of things which are like, "Okay, these are this

which are like, "Okay, these are this isn't just brain candy. This isn't just

isn't just brain candy. This isn't just cool content. This is something that's

cool content. This is something that's really important to me, right?

really important to me, right? Imperative, I might add."

Imperative, I might add." So, um, that'll be part of your

So, um, that'll be part of your reflective process in your morning

reflective process in your morning journaling, right?

journaling, right? So we have um the final you know 90

So we have um the final you know 90 minutes or so or 80 minutes or so for

minutes or so or 80 minutes or so for coaching for feedback for for

coaching for feedback for for conversation for discussion. I'm not

conversation for discussion. I'm not going to teach any specific content but

going to teach any specific content but I do have um my special guest Katherine

I do have um my special guest Katherine Divine here with me. Uh some of you know

Divine here with me. Uh some of you know Katherine. Uh some of you know her very

Katherine. Uh some of you know her very well and others have no clue. So

well and others have no clue. So Katherine is my daughter. Uh Katherine

Katherine is my daughter. Uh Katherine um from Coronado, California and uh been

um from Coronado, California and uh been all over the world, spent time in India,

all over the world, spent time in India, lots of time in South America. Uh she is

lots of time in South America. Uh she is u I I consider her a shaman and she's a

u I I consider her a shaman and she's a would consider herself a reluctant

would consider herself a reluctant shaman.

shaman. Um she's done I don't know how many

Um she's done I don't know how many ceremonies,

ceremonies, 40 or 50 or 60 or something.

40 or 50 or 60 or something. >> No, not not that many. You know,

>> No, not not that many. You know, >> if you I don't mean like the whole

>> if you I don't mean like the whole thing, but like every time you've sat

thing, but like every time you've sat and sat with medicine, how many times?

and sat with medicine, how many times? >> Oh, yeah. And around 40.

>> Oh, yeah. And around 40. >> Yeah. So, she's sat with the um earth's

>> Yeah. So, she's sat with the um earth's loving medicines around 40 different

loving medicines around 40 different times. I s Pedro, peyote, um

times. I s Pedro, peyote, um >> mushrooms.

>> mushrooms. Anyways,

Anyways, uh and and has a great deep

uh and and has a great deep understanding about the efficacy, uh the

understanding about the efficacy, uh the contra indications of that, whether it's

contra indications of that, whether it's something that would be useful or not

something that would be useful or not useful. So, if you have questions around

useful. So, if you have questions around that, that's a great topic to talk

that, that's a great topic to talk about. Katherine's also a yogi. Um in

about. Katherine's also a yogi. Um in fact, she and I attended a 500 hour

fact, she and I attended a 500 hour teacher training together once and had

teacher training together once and had an incredible experience. Not the same

an incredible experience. Not the same time, but same system. She's a

time, but same system. She's a world-class teacher, yoga teacher, and

world-class teacher, yoga teacher, and she's getting her PhD in East West

she's getting her PhD in East West psychology right now at the California

psychology right now at the California Institute of Integral Studies.

Institute of Integral Studies. Um, and she's one of the best meditation

Um, and she's one of the best meditation instructors that I've ever experienced.

instructors that I've ever experienced. >> A thank you.

>> A thank you. >> Yeah. So, anyways, thanks for joining

>> Yeah. So, anyways, thanks for joining me, K.

me, K. >> Yeah. Thank you. Thanks for that

>> Yeah. Thank you. Thanks for that wonderful

wonderful >> She shared my last name. How cool is

>> She shared my last name. How cool is that?

that? >> Wonderful introduction. Yeah.

>> Wonderful introduction. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, I thought Kath would lead us

>> Yeah. So, I thought Kath would lead us through a practice and then I want to

through a practice and then I want to ask her some questions about her recent

ask her some questions about her recent vision quest that she she experienced

vision quest that she she experienced down in Ecuador. Right.

down in Ecuador. Right. >> In Ecuador.

>> In Ecuador. >> Ecuador. And then we'll open it up for

>> Ecuador. And then we'll open it up for Q&A to either of us or both of us and

Q&A to either of us or both of us and have a great conversation. All right.

have a great conversation. All right. >> All right. Well, hello everybody. I'm

>> All right. Well, hello everybody. I'm grateful to be here with you. Uh let's

grateful to be here with you. Uh let's do a practice where we're seated and uh

do a practice where we're seated and uh in more of a meditative state. So go

in more of a meditative state. So go ahead and find yourself where you can

ahead and find yourself where you can sit upright. If sitting upright doesn't

sit upright. If sitting upright doesn't feel comfortable for you, you can always

feel comfortable for you, you can always stand. Uh and we'll close our eyes.

stand. Uh and we'll close our eyes. So getting out of if you've actually you

So getting out of if you've actually you know what first if you can go ahead and

know what first if you can go ahead and stand up for a moment because you guys

stand up for a moment because you guys have been sitting listening for a while

have been sitting listening for a while and let's do just a few energetic

and let's do just a few energetic movements to get the

movements to get the you know wake up if you're starting to

you know wake up if you're starting to get into that head space a little bit.

get into that head space a little bit. So just inhale arms up

So just inhale arms up and then exhale forward fold.

Inhale, halfway lift. Exhale, forward fold.

Exhale, forward fold. Inhale, come up to standing.

Inhale, come up to standing. On your exhale, make a big noise. Ah,

On your exhale, make a big noise. Ah, lower your arms down. We'll do it again.

lower your arms down. We'll do it again. Inhale, arms up.

Inhale, arms up. Exhale, forward fold.

Exhale, forward fold. Inhale, halfway lift.

Inhale, halfway lift. Exhale, forward fold.

Exhale, forward fold. And then inhale, come all the way up to

And then inhale, come all the way up to standing.

standing. Exhale, making some noise. Ah,

Exhale, making some noise. Ah, then just take a few jumps up and down.

then just take a few jumps up and down. Shake your arms.

Shake your arms. Nice. Put your arms up.

Nice. >> All right, cool. Go ahead and come sit

>> All right, cool. Go ahead and come sit down.

down. >> Nice.

>> Nice. >> Yeah. So, from here, then we'll go ahead

>> Yeah. So, from here, then we'll go ahead and get into our seated practice. So,

and get into our seated practice. So, find a seat. Again, you can be standing

find a seat. Again, you can be standing if you like. When you sit down, I want

if you like. When you sit down, I want you to find that upright spine. Roll

you to find that upright spine. Roll your shoulders back and away from your

your shoulders back and away from your ears. Close the eyes.

ears. Close the eyes. As you close the eyes, you're going to

As you close the eyes, you're going to take your gaze slightly inward and

take your gaze slightly inward and upward to the point between the

upward to the point between the eyebrows, gazing towards what's known as

eyebrows, gazing towards what's known as our third eye,

our third eye, the doorway to infinite wisdom.

the doorway to infinite wisdom. And just notice your breath in this

And just notice your breath in this moment.

How does it feel as the inhale enters your body?

your body? How does it feel as the exhale leaves

How does it feel as the exhale leaves the body?

Welcoming in the breath as that thread of life force.

You can even bring in some gratitude for the breath. how this breath with

the breath. how this breath with awareness has more attention, but often

awareness has more attention, but often we're not paying attention to our

we're not paying attention to our breath. It's just going.

breath. It's just going. So, gratitude for this life force that

So, gratitude for this life force that goes, the intelligence of the body,

just being here. Gratitude for this day,

Gratitude for this day, this one precious life.

So notice any sensations that are happening

happening within your physical body.

For some you may feel a vibratory effect in your palms,

in your palms, your feet.

your feet. or throughout the whole entire physical

or throughout the whole entire physical form.

Then come back to your breath. On your next inhale, articulate the breath by

next inhale, articulate the breath by expanding into the belly, the diaphragm,

expanding into the belly, the diaphragm, and then into the chest.

and then into the chest. And then on your exhale, release it out

And then on your exhale, release it out through the mouth with a ha sound.

through the mouth with a ha sound. Letting go of any residual tension or

Letting go of any residual tension or stress in your system.

Inhaling belly, diaphragm, all the way into the chest. Make noise on that

into the chest. Make noise on that exhale. Can be ha or ho.

exhale. Can be ha or ho. Letting go. We'll do that two more

Letting go. We'll do that two more times. Inhale.

One more. Articulate the breath through the body, up the spine.

Nice. Now go back to breathing. And you can let go of paying full attention to

can let go of paying full attention to the breath or the body and allow

the breath or the body and allow yourself to become more into the present

yourself to become more into the present moment of awareness.

moment of awareness. Awareness of what is or even awareness

Awareness of what is or even awareness of where your attention is.

Just as you notice that default attention,

notice it. And then I'm going to invite you to

And then I'm going to invite you to bring all your intention to your chest,

bring all your intention to your chest, your heart center.

The kakoro is vibratory of our heart, our spirit, our

vibratory of our heart, our spirit, our nature,

nature, heart in action, heart and being.

heart in action, heart and being. So as you bring your intention and your

So as you bring your intention and your attention to your heart center,

attention to your heart center, maybe at first noticing that physical

maybe at first noticing that physical heartbeat

heartbeat and then piercing through just the

and then piercing through just the physicality and going into the energy

physicality and going into the energy body of your heart.

Does your heart feel contracted, expanded?

Do you have access to awareness of the energetic pathway of your heart?

Whatever the answers are in this moment, invite in more

in this moment, invite in more connection to your energy center of the

connection to your energy center of the heart.

heart. Another doorway to your wisdom body

Another doorway to your wisdom body to truly knowing

to truly knowing full presence.

And as you invite in more connection and attention into your heart center,

invite it to expand, to open the aperture just a little bit

to open the aperture just a little bit more.

Invite in receptivity, receiving, becoming open to

becoming open to What is in your highest and greatest

What is in your highest and greatest good

good like a magnet

like a magnet attracting through your heart energy

attracting through your heart energy what is for you in your highest and

what is for you in your highest and greatest good

and also allowing your heart to send

to send as it expands

as it expands the vibration of love.

So this heart center becoming a sender and receiver

and again paying attention to how it feels to be aware of your heart

how it feels to be aware of your heart energy.

energy. Is there a mental story that comes up?

Is there a mental story that comes up? Is there an actual physicality that

Is there an actual physicality that happens such as pain

happens such as pain or relaxation,

or relaxation, excitement?

And then saying to yourself, saying to your heart center,

saying to your heart center, I am here. I am present with

and asking your heart, the wisdom of your heart, what it is that you need to

your heart, what it is that you need to know in this moment.

And if the mind starts to overintellectualize or jump in, thank

overintellectualize or jump in, thank the mind for doing what it does so well.

the mind for doing what it does so well. And then bring your focus and awareness

And then bring your focus and awareness back to the heart. Asking the heart

back to the heart. Asking the heart energy,

energy, what is it that I need to know in this

what is it that I need to know in this moment?

moment? What is it that I need to know in this

What is it that I need to know in this moment that is in the highest and

moment that is in the highest and greatest good for myself, those I love,

greatest good for myself, those I love, for all beings everywhere?

allowing yourself to receive this information whether it's visually,

information whether it's visually, auditorially,

auditorially, through

through words in your mind.

And as we're entering this new calendar year, and we're almost entering the new

year, and we're almost entering the new year in the Chinese calendar,

year in the Chinese calendar, what is it that you need to focus on

what is it that you need to focus on from this heart space? So staying

from this heart space? So staying connected to your heart

as you journey into and through 2026.

So maybe there's something that you need.

need. Your heart knows.

If there's healing that needs to take place, your heart knows.

If there's amends to be made, your heart knows.

Letting go of the analyst or the judge. Staying with the heart energy.

Letting the mind just be the transcriber.

and bring your left hand to your chest where your physical heart is. and bring

where your physical heart is. and bring your right hand over

and take a moment to commit to appreciating and loving yourself as you

appreciating and loving yourself as you are now and as you are becoming.

Take a moment to love and appreciate who you have been that's led you to this

you have been that's led you to this moment.

again and commit to loving and appreciating yourself as you are now and

appreciating yourself as you are now and to who you are becoming.

Committing to walking in strength and grace of your heart

grace of your heart in presence

and gently release your hands. Take a big deep breath in.

Come back to gratitude and celebration for this one precious life.

for this one precious life. It's a mystery. It's a gift.

It's a mystery. It's a gift. As long as our heartbeats, we are here

As long as our heartbeats, we are here in this body.

in this body. The heartbeat is the drum of your soul.

The heartbeat is the drum of your soul. It's a wonderful place to return and

It's a wonderful place to return and listen.

May each of us continue to do the work that removes the dust from the diamond

that removes the dust from the diamond that sits in our hearts so that all

that sits in our hearts so that all aspects of our souls may shine through

aspects of our souls may shine through and we can be in service to ourselves as

and we can be in service to ourselves as well as the world.

well as the world. When you feel ready, you can go ahead

When you feel ready, you can go ahead and open up your eyes if you like. You

and open up your eyes if you like. You can take a moment to write down any

can take a moment to write down any insights, things that came up.

>> Thanks, Catherine. >> You're welcome.

>> You're welcome. >> Was really nice.

>> Was really nice. >> Thanks.

>> You're on the screen over there. This says we have a protocol for entering a

says we have a protocol for entering a practice

practice um which is you know your setup setting

um which is you know your setup setting your posture your intention moving your

your posture your intention moving your um mind from an external focus to an

um mind from an external focus to an internal and then bringing attention to

internal and then bringing attention to the breath. That's all part of the

the breath. That's all part of the setup. Um there's also a post meditation

setup. Um there's also a post meditation process.

process. Um, and it really is kind of um coming

Um, and it really is kind of um coming back into the outer objective reality,

back into the outer objective reality, but but doing so in a way that brings

but but doing so in a way that brings that embodied presence that you just

that embodied presence that you just cultivated with you.

cultivated with you. Um, I like to say this a lot, but it's

Um, I like to say this a lot, but it's it's really why shavasana or or corpse

it's really why shavasana or or corpse pose in yoga is the most important pose

pose in yoga is the most important pose because you go through all the practice,

because you go through all the practice, all the alignment, right? all the

all the alignment, right? all the mindfulness, all the movement, all the

mindfulness, all the movement, all the energy, all the breath

energy, all the breath and then you just lay down and surrender

and then you just lay down and surrender and let all that energy kind of like get

and let all that energy kind of like get absorbed at a cellular level, at a psych

absorbed at a cellular level, at a psych psychological level. So, and you take

psychological level. So, and you take your time like a good shioa would be 10

your time like a good shioa would be 10 minutes like a really good

minutes like a really good >> 20

>> 20 >> 20 minutes. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So, real

>> 20 minutes. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So, real traditional yoga systems, you're you're

traditional yoga systems, you're you're laying there for 20 minutes and it's

laying there for 20 minutes and it's tough for westerners to do it. you know,

tough for westerners to do it. you know, you go to a yoga studio and you see

you go to a yoga studio and you see people jumping right up at the end of

people jumping right up at the end of the class and grabbing their phone and

the class and grabbing their phone and they're kind of missing all the

they're kind of missing all the benefits. So, similarly in a meditative

benefits. So, similarly in a meditative or box breathing practice, it's not

or box breathing practice, it's not like, okay, I'm done, right? You just

like, okay, I'm done, right? You just get busy again. It's okay, that phase is

get busy again. It's okay, that phase is done. Now, bring that presence with you

done. Now, bring that presence with you as you open your eyes and feel that

as you open your eyes and feel that embodied presence of the mind infused

embodied presence of the mind infused throughout the body, the heart, right?

throughout the body, the heart, right? and and um and make a commitment to hold

and and um and make a commitment to hold on to that as long as possible and and

on to that as long as possible and and it'll stay with you for longer and

it'll stay with you for longer and longer and longer and that's a reminder

longer and longer and that's a reminder also to come back to it whenever you

also to come back to it whenever you feel disconnected from that. Right? So

feel disconnected from that. Right? So then this what this means is the

then this what this means is the shavasana is a transition from being a a

shavasana is a transition from being a a an episodic practice to a full-time

an episodic practice to a full-time daily life practice. Meaning throughout

daily life practice. Meaning throughout the day you're doing the practice at a

the day you're doing the practice at a subconscious or even a conscious level.

subconscious or even a conscious level. Anytime you feel agitated or anxious,

Anytime you feel agitated or anxious, you take the practice with you wherever

you take the practice with you wherever you go. Um, but it's very hard to do

you go. Um, but it's very hard to do that if you don't exit the practice with

that if you don't exit the practice with with uh awareness, right?

with uh awareness, right? >> So, nice work.

>> So, nice work. >> Thanks.

>> Thanks. >> And that's why I just said that to give

>> And that's why I just said that to give us time to integrate.

us time to integrate. >> Integration. So, Katherine's on this

>> Integration. So, Katherine's on this four-year journey. I thought we thought

four-year journey. I thought we thought it'd be fun to talk about because it

it'd be fun to talk about because it speaks to um like serious commitment,

speaks to um like serious commitment, discipline, right? You all are committed

discipline, right? You all are committed to your training and growth. 2026, you

to your training and growth. 2026, you know, you're here because you're you um

know, you're here because you're you um you want to go further.

you want to go further. Further from where? Well, further from

Further from where? Well, further from where you are. And you know that there's

where you are. And you know that there's further to go. There's always further to

further to go. There's always further to go.

go. And um you know that there's certain um

And um you know that there's certain um information that will help and most of

information that will help and most of the way most of that information is to

the way most of that information is to remove barriers help you remove

remove barriers help you remove obstacles. The obstacles all stem from

obstacles. The obstacles all stem from past thinking that's ineffective past

past thinking that's ineffective past ideas belief systems

ideas belief systems and um ineffective practice.

and um ineffective practice. So we want to teach like how do how do

So we want to teach like how do how do we remove the obstacles and how do we

we remove the obstacles and how do we practice effectively so that we can

practice effectively so that we can accelerate our furtherness

accelerate our furtherness and um

and um over time

over time you get to experience the fruits of the

you get to experience the fruits of the labor or the results and it it has a

labor or the results and it it has a serious effect on your commitment,

serious effect on your commitment, discipline, motivation. it becomes um

discipline, motivation. it becomes um not something that you would like to

not something that you would like to have but it's an imperative and practice

have but it's an imperative and practice becomes as important as eating and

becomes as important as eating and sleeping so you don't ever miss it. And

sleeping so you don't ever miss it. And then you want to do something like

then you want to do something like really serious to really catapult

really serious to really catapult yourself because even with dedicated

yourself because even with dedicated daily practice, you could feel like you

daily practice, you could feel like you could go further faster or also said

could go further faster or also said another way that you get stuck in a rut

another way that you get stuck in a rut because you know our our growth is like

because you know our our growth is like it's like a transcendent clude. We get a

it's like a transcendent clude. We get a certain place, then we get stuck. And

certain place, then we get stuck. And then we can even backtrack and we get

then we can even backtrack and we get stuck and we feel like we're in a rut.

stuck and we feel like we're in a rut. And then we need to do something to

And then we need to do something to catalyze a breakthrough to go to the

catalyze a breakthrough to go to the next level. And then we'll stall and

next level. And then we'll stall and we'll go backwards and we feel like

we'll go backwards and we feel like we're in a rut and we need to do

we're in a rut and we need to do something to catalyze the next

something to catalyze the next breakthrough. If you don't do something

breakthrough. If you don't do something to catalyze that breakthrough, guess

to catalyze that breakthrough, guess what? Universe will provide it for you.

what? Universe will provide it for you. I think my my snowmobile accident was

I think my my snowmobile accident was that right because I I wasn't there was

that right because I I wasn't there was something I wasn't bringing myself in

something I wasn't bringing myself in the terms of a breakthrough challenge or

the terms of a breakthrough challenge or um opportunity and so the universe

um opportunity and so the universe provided it for me so that I could get

provided it for me so that I could get unstuck and cat catapult to the next

unstuck and cat catapult to the next level of my own furtherness.

level of my own furtherness. Um, Katherine's

Um, Katherine's journey and commitment

journey and commitment put her on a four-year path of what's

put her on a four-year path of what's called a vision quest. And it's pretty

called a vision quest. And it's pretty cool because you know most people can

cool because you know most people can you you know you can find places that

you you know you can find places that offer a vision quest but this is um like

offer a vision quest but this is um like really deeply um built into the Lakota

really deeply um built into the Lakota tradition which is a North American uh

tradition which is a North American uh native tradition that was transported

native tradition that was transported down to uh Central America.

down to uh Central America. South America.

South America. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. And they um they've held the tradition

And they um they've held the tradition very you know ritualistically and and

very you know ritualistically and and with integrity. And I'll let Katherine

with integrity. And I'll let Katherine describe it, but it's four years. Each

describe it, but it's four years. Each year is a increasing duration of um time

year is a increasing duration of um time in nature alone with very little food

in nature alone with very little food and no interaction and no talking unless

and no interaction and no talking unless you're talking to yourself. I guess

you're talking to yourself. I guess >> can't talk to yourself out loud.

>> can't talk to yourself out loud. >> You can't do it out loud. No. Okay. So,

>> You can't do it out loud. No. Okay. So, no talking period. So, a silent retreat

no talking period. So, a silent retreat each year.

each year. >> You know,

>> You know, >> you can but you're breaking the rules.

>> you can but you're breaking the rules. >> Yeah. And um there's a lot of reasons to

>> Yeah. And um there's a lot of reasons to do this and there's a lot of reasons not

do this and there's a lot of reasons not to do it. So, I thought it'd be fun to

to do it. So, I thought it'd be fun to have a conversation around that. Yeah,

have a conversation around that. Yeah, >> sure.

>> sure. >> What was your initial motivation? I was

>> What was your initial motivation? I was just setting the stage saying that

just setting the stage saying that sometimes we feel like we can do more to

sometimes we feel like we can do more to to kind of like get unstuck and to go

to kind of like get unstuck and to go further

further >> and I think something like a vision

>> and I think something like a vision quest is one of those opportunities.

quest is one of those opportunities. >> Yeah. I think my initial motivation was

>> Yeah. I think my initial motivation was there was a few layers. I've been taking

there was a few layers. I've been taking silence by myself. Why don't you try our

silence by myself. Why don't you try our >> for about

>> for about I guess 13 years 12 years 13 years

I guess 13 years 12 years 13 years >> silent time alone in

>> silent time alone in >> I had been doing five to seven days of

>> I had been doing five to seven days of silent sits like no talking light eating

silent sits like no talking light eating meditation in the mountains for yeah 12

meditation in the mountains for yeah 12 or 13 years before I did this vision

or 13 years before I did this vision quest. So I did that every year as a

quest. So I did that every year as a ritual to kind of check in with myself

ritual to kind of check in with myself and

and um and then in this partic I hadn't done

um and then in this partic I hadn't done that in a couple years. I got

that in a couple years. I got emotionally triggered by a relationship

emotionally triggered by a relationship that I was in that upset me and I felt

that I was in that upset me and I felt like I needed space to sit with myself

like I needed space to sit with myself and investigate why I was in the dynamic

and investigate why I was in the dynamic that I found myself in in the

that I found myself in in the conversations I found myself in. and I

conversations I found myself in. and I heard you interview someone on your

heard you interview someone on your podcast because at the time I was

podcast because at the time I was transcribing your podcast for you um who

transcribing your podcast for you um who talked about this vision quest in

talked about this vision quest in Ecuador

Ecuador and I've always since my

and I've always since my spiritual path started I've always

spiritual path started I've always listened when my heart speaks. like why

listened when my heart speaks. like why I took you guys through the heart uh

I took you guys through the heart uh guided meditation and when spirit speaks

guided meditation and when spirit speaks and I felt really clear when I heard

and I felt really clear when I heard this interview I was like hm that sounds

this interview I was like hm that sounds like something that I'm supposed to do

like something that I'm supposed to do and so I reached out to you to put me in

and so I reached out to you to put me in contact with the guest that you

contact with the guest that you interviewed talked to him and then he

interviewed talked to him and then he put me in contact with the man that

put me in contact with the man that helps facilitate the whole thing. So

helps facilitate the whole thing. So anyways that's that was what prompted me

anyways that's that was what prompted me to do it. I talked to Salvador. I told

to do it. I talked to Salvador. I told him I'd been praying and doing these

him I'd been praying and doing these silent sits by myself for many years and

silent sits by myself for many years and that I was craving community in that way

that I was craving community in that way and he said, "We all need people to pray

and he said, "We all need people to pray with, Katherine. Come to South America

with, Katherine. Come to South America and pray with us." And I was there two

and pray with us." And I was there two weeks later.

weeks later. >> Okay.

>> Okay. >> So, I forgot how quickly that went.

>> So, I forgot how quickly that went. That's crazy.

That's crazy. >> I made the decision quickly. Yeah. And

>> I made the decision quickly. Yeah. And >> describe the four-year kind of structure

>> describe the four-year kind of structure process.

process. >> So, the four-year structure and process,

>> So, the four-year structure and process, it is rooted in the Lakota nature in the

it is rooted in the Lakota nature in the early '9s. uh tribes from all of South

early '9s. uh tribes from all of South America, Central America, Mexico, and

America, Central America, Mexico, and North America met in Mexico and shared

North America met in Mexico and shared their medicines and shared their

their medicines and shared their traditions so that they wouldn't get

traditions so that they wouldn't get lost. And so this is the path of the red

lost. And so this is the path of the red road that got carried down uh through

road that got carried down uh through South America. And it's also the path of

South America. And it's also the path of the fire. And so they the four years is

the fire. And so they the four years is opening the four directions. You start

opening the four directions. You start with the east and then you open the

with the east and then you open the south, the west, the north. East each

south, the west, the north. East each direction has a representation of your

direction has a representation of your life span. So like the east is birth and

life span. So like the east is birth and you know being an a baby a toddler.

you know being an a baby a toddler. >> Yeah. And it's also uh the intention is

>> Yeah. And it's also uh the intention is humility

humility >> and then you know you grow up a little

>> and then you know you grow up a little bit in the south it's willingness

bit in the south it's willingness willpower and then the west is sincerity

willpower and then the west is sincerity and the north is humil excuse me

and the north is humil excuse me integrity

integrity >> and so you open the gate each year. So

>> and so you open the gate each year. So for the first year it's 4 days. It's no

for the first year it's 4 days. It's no food, no water. You open the gate of

food, no water. You open the gate of humility. Then the next year it's 7

humility. Then the next year it's 7 days. You still have to open that first

days. You still have to open that first gate. No food, no water for the first

gate. No food, no water for the first four days. And then you open the second

four days. And then you open the second gate. And so that's part of it. You make

gate. And so that's part of it. You make prayers for yourself, for other people.

prayers for yourself, for other people. But they encourage us to make a lot of

But they encourage us to make a lot of the prayers for ourselves that this is

the prayers for ourselves that this is time for our own intentions. It's 365

time for our own intentions. It's 365 prayers that they wrap us around that

prayers that they wrap us around that we've made in the space that we don't

we've made in the space that we don't leave in the time that we're doing the

leave in the time that we're doing the sit. And then you they start a fire. So

sit. And then you they start a fire. So it begins with a fire getting lit before

it begins with a fire getting lit before we go up the mountain, a ceremony.

we go up the mountain, a ceremony. And that fire stays lit until the last

And that fire stays lit until the last vision quest comes down, which is on

vision quest comes down, which is on their fourth year.

their fourth year. >> That's Oh, really? Wait, they don't keep

>> That's Oh, really? Wait, they don't keep it alive. They don't leave it alive for

it alive. They don't leave it alive for four years. So, but they keep it alive

four years. So, but they keep it alive for the 13 days. Yeah. So, the fourth

for the 13 days. Yeah. So, the fourth year people So, they start it when we

year people So, they start it when we all go up the day before when we start

all go up the day before when we start the ceremony

the ceremony >> and then they put it out the day after

>> and then they put it out the day after after the last ceremony. So,

after the last ceremony. So, >> so the first year is four, then it's

>> so the first year is four, then it's seven, then it's 11.

seven, then it's 11. >> Nine.

>> Nine. >> Nine and 13.

>> Nine and 13. >> Mhm.

>> Mhm. >> 13 days. That's next year for you.

>> 13 days. That's next year for you. >> That's next year. 13.

>> That's next year. 13. >> This year? Yeah. This year.

>> This year? Yeah. This year. >> Yeah. It's only No, it's kind of crazy

>> Yeah. It's only No, it's kind of crazy because I feel like I just got back from

because I feel like I just got back from it, but it's 10 months away. Yeah.

it, but it's 10 months away. Yeah. >> So, um without, you know, taking a ton

>> So, um without, you know, taking a ton more time, I would love to

more time, I would love to >> I'm trying to be quick with my answers.

>> I'm trying to be quick with my answers. >> No, I want to, you know, we'll open up

>> No, I want to, you know, we'll open up for questions, but just um

for questions, but just um >> what's different as a result of going on

>> what's different as a result of going on this process and what do you expect from

this process and what do you expect from completing it?

completing it? >> I what do you see?

>> I what do you see? >> I would say that I had no expectations

>> I would say that I had no expectations going in. I just really wanted to go sit

going in. I just really wanted to go sit in silence. Um,

one of the things that I concluded after this third year of the nine-day sit is

this third year of the nine-day sit is that I'm really good at sitting by

that I'm really good at sitting by myself in silence.

myself in silence. >> So, you got a lot of practice.

>> So, you got a lot of practice. >> I've done it. I've done it now for I

>> I've done it. I've done it now for I mean, you know, so many years.

mean, you know, so many years. >> Punjab says, you heard me say this a lot

>> Punjab says, you heard me say this a lot of times. Um, sitting in silence is the

of times. Um, sitting in silence is the most important thing. Don't waste time

most important thing. Don't waste time not doing it.

not doing it. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> So, you got that down?

>> So, you got that down? >> I got that down. Um but I don't have

>> I got that down. Um but I don't have much I would say I don't have much

much I would say I don't have much expectation.

>> Uh I feel like having an expectation would be

would be driving

driving the vehicle of the vision quest instead

the vehicle of the vision quest instead of being there to receive what spirit

of being there to receive what spirit has for me.

has for me. >> Yeah. I like that. And so a lot of it is

>> Yeah. I like that. And so a lot of it is the reason why silence is so powerful

the reason why silence is so powerful especially multiple days is like the

especially multiple days is like the first day or two and sometimes for many

first day or two and sometimes for many more than that like I've had sits where

more than that like I've had sits where it took me multiple days it's like all

it took me multiple days it's like all the settling of the frenetic mind and

the settling of the frenetic mind and then at some point there's a shift and

then at some point there's a shift and there's you become like an antenna and

there's you become like an antenna and if you're willing really can hear and

if you're willing really can hear and listen not only like to your own wisdom

listen not only like to your own wisdom but the wisdom that the earth has for

but the wisdom that the earth has for you and that the universe has for you,

you and that the universe has for you, >> right? That's cool,

>> right? That's cool, >> you know. Yeah.

>> you know. Yeah. >> Yeah. I I think it's just just like deep

>> Yeah. I I think it's just just like deep deep deep meditation in nature

deep deep meditation in nature um and fasting and so there's a lot

um and fasting and so there's a lot going on

going on >> and learning to listen and to to like

>> and learning to listen and to to like you said the the settling down is all

you said the the settling down is all the dietress of thoughts, beliefs,

the dietress of thoughts, beliefs, >> uh behaviors um

>> uh behaviors um expectations.

expectations. >> Yes.

>> Yes. >> All of which

>> All of which are

are not true. Right? So if you think of

not true. Right? So if you think of truth as being like

truth as being like source,

source, >> yeah,

>> yeah, >> indescribable. No, as soon as you try to

>> indescribable. No, as soon as you try to describe the essential nature of

describe the essential nature of reality, you've lost it, right? It's

reality, you've lost it, right? It's like it's like a slippery thing. It goes

like it's like a slippery thing. It goes it's not it's not it. But we live in

it's not it's not it. But we live in this virtual world of ideas and beliefs

this virtual world of ideas and beliefs and patterns and thoughts and imagery

and patterns and thoughts and imagery >> and we take that to be real.

>> and we take that to be real. >> Yeah. And so when you sit in silence and

>> Yeah. And so when you sit in silence and you literally just have nature which is

you literally just have nature which is the external reality in your body and

the external reality in your body and then you have the internal reality of

then you have the internal reality of your thoughts well those thoughts start

your thoughts well those thoughts start to settle down and eventually it becomes

to settle down and eventually it becomes that calm placid lake and you reflected

that calm placid lake and you reflected back

back more truth

more truth and I love that you don't want to you

and I love that you don't want to you don't want to bracket it with an

don't want to bracket it with an expectation.

expectation. >> Yeah

>> Yeah >> because then that would be cutting it

>> because then that would be cutting it off.

off. >> Yeah. I think for the first year I was

>> Yeah. I think for the first year I was like okay I'm crying for a vision. and

like okay I'm crying for a vision. and I'm going to get a vision and like you

I'm going to get a vision and like you know the biggest download I got which

know the biggest download I got which was beautiful was to bake bread and like

was beautiful was to bake bread and like so I've been baking bread now for three

so I've been baking bread now for three years which has been a wonderful

years which has been a wonderful practice

practice >> delicious bread

>> delicious bread >> it is delicious I've gotten a lot better

>> it is delicious I've gotten a lot better at it too but um but you know it was

at it too but um but you know it was this I think I did think okay maybe I'll

this I think I did think okay maybe I'll like have this like you know vision for

like have this like you know vision for my life or you know and I was like very

my life or you know and I was like very I would say it's a dynamic yet simple

I would say it's a dynamic yet simple message I got

message I got >> you know Um,

>> you know Um, one of my teachers, Guy Maharaj, says

one of my teachers, Guy Maharaj, says it's a blessing not to have

it's a blessing not to have some

some profound mystical experience.

profound mystical experience. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Because that that can trick you.

>> Because that that can trick you. >> Yes.

>> Yes. >> Into some form of specialness, right,

>> Into some form of specialness, right, that you take over.

that you take over. >> I have been there, you know. I think

>> I have been there, you know. I think when I was this even before India, but

when I was this even before India, but um I think it was like right when I was

um I think it was like right when I was 29 or 30, I thought I was pretty

29 or 30, I thought I was pretty enlightened at that point. And like I

enlightened at that point. And like I look back now and like smile at myself

look back now and like smile at myself like, "Oh my gosh." And then when I hear

like, "Oh my gosh." And then when I hear certain things come out of like other

certain things come out of like other practitioners mouths or whatever, I'm

practitioners mouths or whatever, I'm like, "Oh yeah, I remember that. I

like, "Oh yeah, I remember that. I remember thinking I had gotten there

remember thinking I had gotten there like that I had arrived, you know,

like that I had arrived, you know, >> non-dual awareness or I have no mind."

>> non-dual awareness or I have no mind." Yeah. Like

Yeah. Like >> really? Okay. And now I feel like I know

>> really? Okay. And now I feel like I know that whatever that intellect especially

that whatever that intellect especially the intellect intellectualization of the

the intellect intellectualization of the eastern teachings in particular because

eastern teachings in particular because I've studied them so much um that that's

I've studied them so much um that that's a trap.

a trap. >> Yeah, for sure.

>> Yeah, for sure. >> And that through my western mind I may

>> And that through my western mind I may never grasp

never grasp completely what these teachers are

completely what these teachers are saying but I can attempt to and that's

saying but I can attempt to and that's part of like visiting the cultures and

part of like visiting the cultures and then also the more important is the

then also the more important is the practice.

practice. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not the words

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not the words regardless of the culture that are

regardless of the culture that are important.

important. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Those are just pointers. And you can get

>> Those are just pointers. And you can get there yourself by just sitting in

there yourself by just sitting in silence.

silence. >> Yes.

>> Yes. >> And listening to um your own inner

>> And listening to um your own inner voice.

voice. >> Yes.

>> Yes. >> It's a solitary journey. Ultimately,

>> It's a solitary journey. Ultimately, >> it is.

>> it is. >> And that's why when people say, "Oh, the

>> And that's why when people say, "Oh, the sangha is everything." I'm like, "No,

sangha is everything." I'm like, "No, actually the sangha can be a trap. The

actually the sangha can be a trap. The the the community practice is important

the the community practice is important for accountability." Yeah. And you know,

for accountability." Yeah. And you know, to share ideas, but ultimately it's it's

to share ideas, but ultimately it's it's your journey.

your journey. >> Yep. um to truth.

>> Yep. um to truth. >> Yes, that's why like yeah, I think

>> Yes, that's why like yeah, I think >> yes, I agree with you. Community is

>> yes, I agree with you. Community is important for reflection because they

important for reflection because they show you too. It's like, you know,

show you too. It's like, you know, again, back to like, oh, I'm enlightened

again, back to like, oh, I'm enlightened and then you like get into community

and then you like get into community like that whole Ramdas says it like if

like that whole Ramdas says it like if you think you're enlightened, go spend

you think you're enlightened, go spend time with your family.

time with your family. >> Yeah. Or go spend time in an ashram or a

>> Yeah. Or go spend time in an ashram or a Zen Zen monastery,

Zen Zen monastery, >> right? Any place that has uh rules and

>> right? Any place that has uh rules and hierarchy.

hierarchy. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> It's not true. you're going to see where

>> It's not true. you're going to see where the triggers still are and you know and

the triggers still are and you know and then it's like oh I'm triggered so now

then it's like oh I'm triggered so now what? Like do I really stay present in

what? Like do I really stay present in my breath? Do I get caught in a story?

my breath? Do I get caught in a story? Anyways, that's

Anyways, that's >> that's all good stuff.

>> that's all good stuff. >> Yeah. Okay.

>> Yeah. Okay. >> Awesome. Thank you, Kathy.

>> Awesome. Thank you, Kathy. >> You're welcome.

>> You're welcome. >> Um so let's open it up for a

>> Um so let's open it up for a conversation,

conversation, coaching questions, uh reflection um for

coaching questions, uh reflection um for Katherine or I or both of us. And uh

Katherine or I or both of us. And uh let's have some and remember my

let's have some and remember my guidelines yesterday where you know

guidelines yesterday where you know which some people do really well and

which some people do really well and others need work on it is uh the the art

others need work on it is uh the the art of asking questions right is is it

of asking questions right is is it useful for everybody and can I

useful for everybody and can I articulate this in as few words with as

articulate this in as few words with as much impact as possible right and I I

much impact as possible right and I I invoked Mark Twain's quote uh to wrote a

invoked Mark Twain's quote uh to wrote a letter to a friend and it said I was

letter to a friend and it said I was going to write you a short letter but I

going to write you a short letter but I didn't have the time so you've got this

didn't have the time so you've got this long one instead.

long one instead. It's much harder to be succinct and

It's much harder to be succinct and clear than it is to just use a million

clear than it is to just use a million words. Just

words. Just so um that's not a judgment. I'm saying

so um that's not a judgment. I'm saying it's a practice. The art of asking good

it's a practice. The art of asking good questions is a practice. It requires

questions is a practice. It requires awareness. Okay. Yeah, let's go ahead.

awareness. Okay. Yeah, let's go ahead. Open it up.

Open it up. >> Go ahead. Uh Mike, you can take yourself

>> Go ahead. Uh Mike, you can take yourself off of mute.

off of mute. >> Okay. I'll keep it short. If someone

>> Okay. I'll keep it short. If someone gets triggered

gets triggered or there's some PTSD, are there some

or there's some PTSD, are there some short somatic practices that can be

short somatic practices that can be incorporated in uh daily practice uh for

incorporated in uh daily practice uh for someone that's new to somatic practice?

someone that's new to somatic practice? >> Yeah, I'll start with that. Um

somatic, you know, where the where the mind leads, the body follows, but also

mind leads, the body follows, but also where the body leads, the mind will

where the body leads, the mind will follow. And so if your tri if your

follow. And so if your tri if your trigger

trigger uh induces a sematic response like

uh induces a sematic response like anxiety or a pit in your stomach or

anxiety or a pit in your stomach or shallow breathing then it's appropriate

shallow breathing then it's appropriate to do a a movement or a sematic practice

to do a a movement or a sematic practice that will that will inter interrupt that

that will that will inter interrupt that pattern and so like what Katherine just

pattern and so like what Katherine just did you know like a sun salutation do

did you know like a sun salutation do like five of those inhaling forward

like five of those inhaling forward bends are super calming for the nervous

bends are super calming for the nervous just hang out I do this all the time

just hang out I do this all the time throughout the day Katherine probably

throughout the day Katherine probably too where I just want to do like an

too where I just want to do like an inhale and a forward bend and I'll just

inhale and a forward bend and I'll just hang out in that forward bend and do

hang out in that forward bend and do like five deep diaphragmatic breaths and

like five deep diaphragmatic breaths and then come back up to standing and and

then come back up to standing and and whatever the anxiety I had or that

whatever the anxiety I had or that trigger is gone. So like a sun

trigger is gone. So like a sun salutation or a full up down you know

salutation or a full up down you know cat cow or up down dog about five times.

cat cow or up down dog about five times. If you can get the breath in the spine

If you can get the breath in the spine moving then it it it has a the um

moving then it it it has a the um opportunity to really quickly reset your

opportunity to really quickly reset your nervous system

nervous system >> right even just sitting in box breathing

>> right even just sitting in box breathing taking a moment to box breathe is a

taking a moment to box breathe is a physical sematic practice. I would say

physical sematic practice. I would say too with the box breathing, if you're

too with the box breathing, if you're really like in a super stimulated state,

really like in a super stimulated state, it's better not to do the holds and just

it's better not to do the holds and just inhale and exhale longer.

inhale and exhale longer. >> Yeah. Like the mother's breath

>> Yeah. Like the mother's breath >> like Yeah. Well, or long enough. Cuz

>> like Yeah. Well, or long enough. Cuz like it's like if you inhale for four

like it's like if you inhale for four and exhale for six, that takes you into

and exhale for six, that takes you into a more rested state. Whereas, if you're

a more rested state. Whereas, if you're like really overstimulated and you do

like really overstimulated and you do any sort of hold after an inhale or

any sort of hold after an inhale or exhale, if you're that can still bring

exhale, if you're that can still bring on panic for some people, especially if

on panic for some people, especially if you have PTSD. Um, one of my favorite

you have PTSD. Um, one of my favorite things that I learned from a therapist

things that I learned from a therapist >> uh of mine was

>> uh of mine was to notice something that I could see.

to notice something that I could see. So, like I can see the light in front of

So, like I can see the light in front of me right now. Notice something I could

me right now. Notice something I could feel. So I can feel my sweater that I'm

feel. So I can feel my sweater that I'm touching. Notice something I can hear. I

touching. Notice something I can hear. I can hear the keyboard clicking.

can hear the keyboard clicking. Uh, you know, so to use to go through my

Uh, you know, so to use to go through my five senses anchor yourself

five senses anchor yourself >> to anchor myself and try to get back in

>> to anchor myself and try to get back in my body if I'm triggered in more of that

my body if I'm triggered in more of that post-traumatic state.

post-traumatic state. >> And another issue. So, so PTS is a um a

>> And another issue. So, so PTS is a um a a big distortion of um

a big distortion of um stored memory in the body, right? And so

stored memory in the body, right? And so it it it feels like we're going to die

it it it feels like we're going to die or that you're at serious risk. And it's

or that you're at serious risk. And it's it's um it's not logical, it's not

it's um it's not logical, it's not rational, and it's not true.

rational, and it's not true. >> Uh it's a story, right, based upon past

>> Uh it's a story, right, based upon past trauma.

trauma. So the practice of immediacy is I find

So the practice of immediacy is I find to be extremely valuable and that is

to be extremely valuable and that is simply like going coming back to your

simply like going coming back to your breath and it's like mindfulness but

breath and it's like mindfulness but what you're asking yourself is in this

what you're asking yourself is in this moment right now as you inhale and you

moment right now as you inhale and you exhale and in this moment right now is

exhale and in this moment right now is my life in danger?

And if you're standing in your living room or your bedroom and you don't have

room or your bedroom and you don't have an asteroid hurling toward you or

an asteroid hurling toward you or someone's not chasing you with a gun or

someone's not chasing you with a gun or right, you're not going to step out of

right, you're not going to step out of the house and be confronted by a mob or

the house and be confronted by a mob or you're not facing financial calamity. It

you're not facing financial calamity. It literally is simply this anxiety that is

literally is simply this anxiety that is triggered from whatever trigger

triggered from whatever trigger triggering this emotional traumatic

triggering this emotional traumatic response.

response. You can't not come to the answer that

You can't not come to the answer that your life is not in danger and

your life is not in danger and everything is actually just fine right

everything is actually just fine right now.

now. Right? In fact, that's a phenomenal

Right? In fact, that's a phenomenal practice in and of itself because right

practice in and of itself because right now is all you have. And so if you keep

now is all you have. And so if you keep coming back to right now, you realize

coming back to right now, you realize that everything is okay.

that everything is okay. >> That's a mantra that I learned from

>> That's a mantra that I learned from what's her name? Louise Haye. She says,

what's her name? Louise Haye. She says, you say, "All is well, everything is

you say, "All is well, everything is working out. And in this moment, I am

working out. And in this moment, I am safe."

safe." >> Yeah. Love I like that too cuz that

>> Yeah. Love I like that too cuz that helps if the like the trigger of not

helps if the like the trigger of not being safe cuz that's the core of PTS

being safe cuz that's the core of PTS usually is not that feeling threatened

usually is not that feeling threatened >> right

>> right >> and or wanting to threaten yourself that

>> and or wanting to threaten yourself that can also

can also >> you know feeling like I want to die not

>> you know feeling like I want to die not I I might I'm going to die is that I

I I might I'm going to die is that I want to can get triggered and that's

want to can get triggered and that's where I think mantra

where I think mantra um

um that really helps positive affirmation

that really helps positive affirmation >> um also if you can co-regulate if you

>> um also if you can co-regulate if you have somebody that you trust and you do

have somebody that you trust and you do feel safe with and you can sit and say,

feel safe with and you can sit and say, "Will you sit and breathe with me for a

"Will you sit and breathe with me for a moment, you know, will you sit and and

moment, you know, will you sit and and look at this, you know, tree with me and

look at this, you know, tree with me and talk about the tree?" That that can

talk about the tree?" That that can really help.

really help. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Will you give me a hug? I think uh

>> Yeah. Will you give me a hug? I think uh again there's so many things you can try

again there's so many things you can try but um Katherine's heart center practice

but um Katherine's heart center practice what she just did where you just slow

what she just did where you just slow down clear your mind and bring your

down clear your mind and bring your attention to your heart and put your

attention to your heart and put your hand in your heart or both hands in your

hand in your heart or both hands in your heart and just feel that heartbeat and

heart and just feel that heartbeat and feel that okayess because the heart you

feel that okayess because the heart you know all that fear and pts is in the

know all that fear and pts is in the head or stuck in the body and your it's

head or stuck in the body and your it's being perceived in the head it's it's

being perceived in the head it's it's ego right it's it's not rational it's

ego right it's it's not rational it's not true your heart can do nothing but

not true your heart can do nothing but perceive truth and and project truth.

perceive truth and and project truth. Right? So the heart mind and the gut

Right? So the heart mind and the gut mind are all about truth. It's only the

mind are all about truth. It's only the stories that that you know we tell those

stories that that you know we tell those are all in your head because it's the

are all in your head because it's the brain that stores memory and then we

brain that stores memory and then we retrieve that memory and we we we using

retrieve that memory and we we we using language and imagery we create stories

language and imagery we create stories and a lot of those stories are fearful

and a lot of those stories are fearful based upon past traumas. But it's all in

based upon past traumas. But it's all in your head. So, the quicker you can get

your head. So, the quicker you can get out of your head and back into your body

out of your head and back into your body and into your heart and let that energy

and into your heart and let that energy flow, you know, that's that's the master

flow, you know, that's that's the master practice right there.

practice right there. >> Great question.

>> Great question. >> Yeah, it's a really good

>> Yeah, it's a really good >> really good um

>> really good um post-traumatic stress. One of the things

post-traumatic stress. One of the things um we've learned through working with

um we've learned through working with vets is people tend to want to focus on

vets is people tend to want to focus on a big trauma like uh like my snowmobile

a big trauma like uh like my snowmobile accident would be a big trauma. And

accident would be a big trauma. And there's no question that I should have

there's no question that I should have experienced a lot of uh post-traumatic

experienced a lot of uh post-traumatic stress, but because of the daily

stress, but because of the daily practice, I went through it really

practice, I went through it really quickly um

quickly um combat right for veterans. And once the,

combat right for veterans. And once the, you know, once we really started

you know, once we really started focusing on this and these veterans went

focusing on this and these veterans went through their their psychedelic

through their their psychedelic experiences with ibo gain or um or MDMA

experiences with ibo gain or um or MDMA and they with therapeutic process, what

and they with therapeutic process, what they found was it wasn't necessarily the

they found was it wasn't necessarily the combat stress. It was actually childhood

combat stress. It was actually childhood trauma

trauma that was the main problem. It was a

that was the main problem. It was a childhood trauma but then it got

childhood trauma but then it got activated and magnified like a

activated and magnified like a magnifying glass because of the because

magnifying glass because of the because of the combat stress. So that actually

of the combat stress. So that actually is a great opportunity for them even

is a great opportunity for them even though it was existential crisis for

though it was existential crisis for them. Crisis means opportunity for

them. Crisis means opportunity for transformation. So veterans who really

transformation. So veterans who really leaned into and say okay let me work

leaned into and say okay let me work through this came out much stronger on

through this came out much stronger on the other side. Uh unfortunately th that

the other side. Uh unfortunately th that skillful means to lead veterans to that

skillful means to lead veterans to that and find them when they're at that dark,

and find them when they're at that dark, you know, night of the soul moment. Um

you know, night of the soul moment. Um we got a lot of work to do because

we got a lot of work to do because there's still a lot of vets who who

there's still a lot of vets who who aren't experiencing that that

aren't experiencing that that breakthrough postic growth.

breakthrough postic growth. But the opportunity is to is to heal

But the opportunity is to is to heal from the childhood trauma. That's my

from the childhood trauma. That's my point. Everyone's got it at some level.

point. Everyone's got it at some level. >> Thanks for that question.

>> Thanks for that question. >> Great question. Um Patrick, if you want

>> Great question. Um Patrick, if you want to go ahead and take yourself off of

to go ahead and take yourself off of mute.

>> Not working, huh? >> You see the finger moving for

>> You see the finger moving for >> Yeah. Yeah.

>> Yeah. Yeah. It's not clicking. Anybody else have a

It's not clicking. Anybody else have a question? We'll take theirs while

question? We'll take theirs while Patrick figures uh Oh,

Patrick figures uh Oh, >> weird.

>> weird. >> Figures that out. Joanne, did you have a

>> Figures that out. Joanne, did you have a question? I know that you just signed up

question? I know that you just signed up for VIP

for VIP today.

>> Yes. How amazing I think your program is, Mark. I've read all your books.

is, Mark. I've read all your books. >> Thank you.

>> Thank you. >> I also deal with veterans from the um

>> I also deal with veterans from the um RCAF.

RCAF. So I serve and um I think the the thing

So I serve and um I think the the thing that we deal with and I love your

that we deal with and I love your explanation when we have a trigger and

explanation when we have a trigger and the trigger is stimulated by a threat or

the trigger is stimulated by a threat or an unknown threat. It does

an unknown threat. It does have um

taking it back to what is real, what is in front of me,

in front of me, what I can smell, what am I doing in

what I can smell, what am I doing in compartmental time chunks during the

compartmental time chunks during the day, which is a good what I use to get

day, which is a good what I use to get through stimulus or triggers for people.

through stimulus or triggers for people. comp comp the compartmentalization of

comp comp the compartmentalization of time is just one to two hours. Make a

time is just one to two hours. Make a routine, make a plan, make sure you they

routine, make a plan, make sure you they feel safe that this isn't triggered, but

feel safe that this isn't triggered, but just small steps to a successful day.

just small steps to a successful day. >> Yeah, that's awesome. I agree with that.

>> Yeah, that's awesome. I agree with that. Thank you for your work you're doing. I

Thank you for your work you're doing. I I think that's neat because that I guess

I think that's neat because that I guess that's a form of cognitive behavioral

that's a form of cognitive behavioral therapy that you're you're referencing.

therapy that you're you're referencing. Yes. Yeah.

Yes. Yeah. >> Take take control of what you can

>> Take take control of what you can control, but you can't control the

control, but you can't control the whole. So, let's just chunk it down to

whole. So, let's just chunk it down to this like really small part and then

this like really small part and then just be okay with success in that small

just be okay with success in that small part like a micro goal. And that's

part like a micro goal. And that's >> because what I'm finding with clients is

>> because what I'm finding with clients is they get oh sorry they get overwhelmed

they get oh sorry they get overwhelmed with too much information at once and

with too much information at once and then they get afraid then they panic

then they get afraid then they panic then it triggers. But when we use the

then it triggers. But when we use the compartmentalization of time into small

compartmentalization of time into small chunks to set up a successful day, then

chunks to set up a successful day, then that's a win.

that's a win. >> Right. That's right.

>> Right. That's right. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> That's awesome.

So, I love your books and I I I just read them always

read them always >> and reread them and I'm looking forward

>> and reread them and I'm looking forward to joining as part of the group to

to joining as part of the group to learning some more things and um

learning some more things and um fine-tuning my learning as a lifelong

fine-tuning my learning as a lifelong learner.

learner. >> Wonderful.

>> Wonderful. >> That's awesome. Yeah, that's what a

>> That's awesome. Yeah, that's what a great example you are and thank you for

great example you are and thank you for finally showing your face to us in

finally showing your face to us in community here.

community here. I have I'm going to teach my course in

I have I'm going to teach my course in about 20 minutes. So, I had to get my

about 20 minutes. So, I had to get my >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Um my online course about how this is

>> Um my online course about how this is how to deal with the anxiety and

how to deal with the anxiety and overwhelming during cancer.

overwhelming during cancer. >> Oh, wow. So, I work with the Canadian

>> Oh, wow. So, I work with the Canadian Cancer Board and um help people and this

Cancer Board and um help people and this is why I want to take more class and

is why I want to take more class and instruction with you because people when

instruction with you because people when they're dealing with life-threatening,

they're dealing with life-threatening, which is real, cancer is very real, that

which is real, cancer is very real, that may never go away,

may never go away, >> right?

>> right? learning how to visualize and handle it

learning how to visualize and handle it to move forward to enjoy the day, the

to move forward to enjoy the day, the moment

moment uh to adapt uh coping that is meaningful

uh to adapt uh coping that is meaningful to them,

to them, >> right? Oh, that's great work. Yeah,

>> right? Oh, that's great work. Yeah, thank you for doing that. Amazing. I

thank you for doing that. Amazing. I look forward to um more interactions in

look forward to um more interactions in the near future.

the near future. >> I do too.

>> I do too. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Thank you.

>> Thank you. >> You're welcome.

>> You're welcome. >> Yeah. Looking forward to see you in

>> Yeah. Looking forward to see you in inner circle, Joanne. So, thank you so

inner circle, Joanne. So, thank you so much for your work.

much for your work. >> You're very welcome.

>> You're very welcome. >> Thank you. Patrick, did you want to go

>> Thank you. Patrick, did you want to go ahead and take yourself off of mute now?

ahead and take yourself off of mute now? I see that you figured it out.

I see that you figured it out. >> Is it working?

>> Cool. Alrighty. So, I don't know how to

Alrighty. So, I don't know how to approach this.

approach this. I am a recovered alcoholic. Recovered.

I am a recovered alcoholic. Recovered. Not in recovery. I have recovered. It is

Not in recovery. I have recovered. It is my fifth year and now I feel like butter

my fifth year and now I feel like butter scraped over too much bread because I'm

scraped over too much bread because I'm trying to make up for 10 years under

trying to make up for 10 years under that influence.

that influence. And I bought the Unbeatable Mind

And I bought the Unbeatable Mind teaching certification years ago. And

teaching certification years ago. And now I'm finally in a position to where I

now I'm finally in a position to where I can accomplish it. And I'm I'm worried

can accomplish it. And I'm I'm worried with the transfer to school program that

with the transfer to school program that I will lose it on top of working out, on

I will lose it on top of working out, on top of doing judo, jiu-jitsu, being a

top of doing judo, jiu-jitsu, being a volunteer boxing coach for youth and

volunteer boxing coach for youth and teenagers.

teenagers. And I I have written on my whiteboard

And I I have written on my whiteboard the PJ call, these things we do that

the PJ call, these things we do that others may live. of John 15:13. You

others may live. of John 15:13. You know, what better love do we have for

know, what better love do we have for our brothers than to lay down our lives

our brothers than to lay down our lives for them? And I'm just suffering so bad.

for them? And I'm just suffering so bad. You know, my hell has become a

You know, my hell has become a bottomless pit because I'm making it so

bottomless pit because I'm making it so worse on myself because I I feel like

worse on myself because I I feel like tantalus, you know, where apple and

tantalus, you know, where apple and water is just always slightly out of

water is just always slightly out of reach.

reach. And I feel like my Kakoro, my Numa is

And I feel like my Kakoro, my Numa is fully aligned. I I also feel like the

fully aligned. I I also feel like the Queen song, you know, don't stop me now.

Queen song, you know, don't stop me now. I'm Mr. Fahrenheit, you know, just

I'm Mr. Fahrenheit, you know, just burning up.

burning up. And I want to show the kids and my peers

And I want to show the kids and my peers at martial arts that you can you can you

at martial arts that you can you can you can mess up for a decade and get back

can mess up for a decade and get back into college, which I'm going for

into college, which I'm going for psychology. I've got eight more classes

psychology. I've got eight more classes left. Then I've got masters. I want to

left. Then I've got masters. I want to go into sports psychology, be a

go into sports psychology, be a certified mental performance counselor,

certified mental performance counselor, and I also want to get my Wimhof method

and I also want to get my Wimhof method certification. And also, I've gotten my

certification. And also, I've gotten my I did Jaco Willings um extreme ownership

I did Jaco Willings um extreme ownership and the dichotomy of leadership courses,

and the dichotomy of leadership courses, and I'm suffering so bad. And I see

and I'm suffering so bad. And I see these kids and these teenagers

these kids and these teenagers suffering, too.

suffering, too. and I want to be able to convey the

and I want to be able to convey the message of how to suffer patiently

message of how to suffer patiently better to them.

better to them. And I just don't know how to really go

And I just don't know how to really go about that

about that if that makes any sense.

if that makes any sense. >> Um, a lot of chaos. I know. I'm sorry.

>> Um, a lot of chaos. I know. I'm sorry. >> No. Um so

>> No. Um so you said a lot and your question is

you said a lot and your question is extremely

extremely broad.

broad. It's like you know the

It's like you know the it's like the um the biggest question of

it's like the um the biggest question of one of the big questions in life is how

one of the big questions in life is how do we end suffering

do we end suffering or is suffering necessary?

or is suffering necessary? And you can answer that from several

And you can answer that from several different angles. Right? From one

different angles. Right? From one perspective, suffering is the human

perspective, suffering is the human condition because we're in separation

condition because we're in separation and separation is painful.

and separation is painful. And so the entire uh evolutionary

And so the entire uh evolutionary impulse is toward ending separation

impulse is toward ending separation which will end suffering.

And what are we separate from? We're separate from our spiritual self, from

separate from our spiritual self, from our true nature. And then that leads us

our true nature. And then that leads us to be separate from our uh understanding

to be separate from our uh understanding of who we are and our calling. And so

of who we are and our calling. And so you're getting closer to that. So that's

you're getting closer to that. So that's good. You're moving closer to that. But

good. You're moving closer to that. But then you're also separate from other

then you're also separate from other beings because you're looking at them as

beings because you're looking at them as separate body minds as opposed to part

separate body minds as opposed to part of the whole.

of the whole. So that's the that's like the spiritual

So that's the that's like the spiritual answer. Suffering is the state of Maya

answer. Suffering is the state of Maya or the illusion of this dream that we

or the illusion of this dream that we live. And it's it's just part of the

live. And it's it's just part of the game. So, you know, like we said

game. So, you know, like we said yesterday, learn to embrace the suck,

yesterday, learn to embrace the suck, move through the suffering to find joy

move through the suffering to find joy and grace, right? And this is what the

and grace, right? And this is what the spiritual teachers of Buddha and Jesus

spiritual teachers of Buddha and Jesus all said. You just just know this is a

all said. You just just know this is a human condition. You don't have to

human condition. You don't have to wallow, right, in hell on earth. You can

wallow, right, in hell on earth. You can train your mind to uh see beauty and

train your mind to uh see beauty and everything to see this the big

everything to see this the big challenges you face even your alcoholism

challenges you face even your alcoholism that's passed as opportunities for

that's passed as opportunities for growth or as necessary conditions for

growth or as necessary conditions for the growth that you were meant to

the growth that you were meant to experience in this lifetime so you can

experience in this lifetime so you can be grateful for it. You chose it at some

be grateful for it. You chose it at some level. You chose that and you chose to

level. You chose that and you chose to break the bonds of that. So you're free

break the bonds of that. So you're free from that. Yet there's part of you

from that. Yet there's part of you that's still choosing suffering. So you

that's still choosing suffering. So you need to investigate that. So, so

need to investigate that. So, so suffering is actually a incredible

suffering is actually a incredible um

um focal point for our contemplation and

focal point for our contemplation and meditation. It's like why are we

meditation. It's like why are we choosing that?

choosing that? Ultimately, as you move toward freedom,

Ultimately, as you move toward freedom, you see that suffering is optional,

you see that suffering is optional, right? You will always experience pain

right? You will always experience pain and pleasure, but uh suffering is

and pleasure, but uh suffering is optional. And that's the root of

optional. And that's the root of compassion, right? You you endure

compassion, right? You you endure everything with passion, including the

everything with passion, including the suffering. and you see suffering just

suffering. and you see suffering just like Victor Frankle said as an

like Victor Frankle said as an opportunity or a gateway for

opportunity or a gateway for transformation.

transformation. >> Yeah, I would say can

>> Yeah, I would say can >> so there's there's a lot more I could

>> so there's there's a lot more I could say but I'll I'll hand the ball to

say but I'll I'll hand the ball to Catherine.

Catherine. >> Well that that in

>> Well that that in looking at the one part of your question

looking at the one part of your question was how to help people live while

was how to help people live while they're suffering.

they're suffering. I it it sounds like part of that is

I it it sounds like part of that is feeling their feelings. So letting go of

feeling their feelings. So letting go of story of suffering and going into

story of suffering and going into because what I heard in what you were I

because what I heard in what you were I was listening to what you were saying

was listening to what you were saying and then the question that came was like

and then the question that came was like there's grief in maybe the community

there's grief in maybe the community you're working with maybe in your own

you're working with maybe in your own life still. So there's a holding of the

life still. So there's a holding of the sorrow and then still being able to have

sorrow and then still being able to have joy. So recognizing like I can be joyful

joy. So recognizing like I can be joyful today and I can also be sorrowful

today and I can also be sorrowful because oh it's sad that I lost

because oh it's sad that I lost uh some years of my life to this uh

uh some years of my life to this uh disease or addiction that I had you know

disease or addiction that I had you know um so I have to grieve that part of

um so I have to grieve that part of myself and that part of myself isn't

myself and that part of myself isn't alive anymore because now I'm stepping

alive anymore because now I'm stepping into a part of myself that's recovered

into a part of myself that's recovered and so then I can celebrate Right. So

and so then I can celebrate Right. So there's a holding of sorrow and joy in

there's a holding of sorrow and joy in that.

that. >> And I I I agree though from my own

>> And I I I agree though from my own perspective and view is that suffering a

perspective and view is that suffering a lot of times is optional. And it's we I

lot of times is optional. And it's we I I personally I'll just personalize it

I personally I'll just personalize it like when I'm in suffering it's because

like when I'm in suffering it's because I'm pretty in a stuck in a story.

I'm pretty in a stuck in a story. >> That's right.

>> That's right. I'm pretty like

I'm pretty like out of my my state of awe and grace of

out of my my state of awe and grace of the mystery of life and presence and I'm

the mystery of life and presence and I'm really stuck either somewhere in the

really stuck either somewhere in the past, the future, or just a real

past, the future, or just a real misidentified like moment.

misidentified like moment. >> That's right.

>> That's right. >> Story.

>> Story. >> That's exactly what I was going to

>> That's exactly what I was going to follow up with. Um,

follow up with. Um, >> and I'm I'm good at it sometime. all all

>> and I'm I'm good at it sometime. all all suffering

suffering besides like an initial shock event like

besides like an initial shock event like hitting a tree off a a snowmobile or

hitting a tree off a a snowmobile or >> you know hitting bottom right with the

>> you know hitting bottom right with the bottle. those events trigger us or

bottle. those events trigger us or catalyze us, right, to uh to some other

catalyze us, right, to uh to some other something else, right? And so it's an

something else, right? And so it's an opportunity to change the story because

opportunity to change the story because you know the the the years that you were

you know the the the years that you were drinking, you can classify that as

drinking, you can classify that as suffering. So when you stop drinking,

suffering. So when you stop drinking, you should think, well, the suffering

you should think, well, the suffering should go away, but it's not. You're

should go away, but it's not. You're holding on to it. So you haven't changed

holding on to it. So you haven't changed your story,

right? And again, if you if back to the immediiacy, if you just sit right now

immediiacy, if you just sit right now and you ask yourself, what's so wrong

and you ask yourself, what's so wrong with right now? Right? I've been sober

with right now? Right? I've been sober for five years, right? I'm healthy. I'm

for five years, right? I'm healthy. I'm fit. I got a healthy family, right? I'm

fit. I got a healthy family, right? I'm successful. I'm motivated. I'm clear

successful. I'm motivated. I'm clear about my purpose. Wow. I I can think of

about my purpose. Wow. I I can think of a whole lot of people who'd love to be

a whole lot of people who'd love to be in your shoes.

in your shoes. >> Well, and I would even say like the

>> Well, and I would even say like the bottom, even if you're just awakening

bottom, even if you're just awakening from the bottom.

from the bottom. >> That's right.

>> That's right. >> And you have nothing.

>> And you have nothing. and you've lost your family and you're

and you've lost your family and you're not surrounded by anyone, but you're

not surrounded by anyone, but you're just waking up to the fact that you're

just waking up to the fact that you're suffering and you're masking the

suffering and you're masking the suffering and suffering even more that

suffering and suffering even more that you're alive that you're breathing

you're alive that you're breathing >> that that in itself is like, oh, I'm not

>> that that in itself is like, oh, I'm not suffering anymore because the real

suffering anymore because the real suffering is being asleep and

suffering is being asleep and unaware of like does that make sense?

unaware of like does that make sense? Yeah. I articulate it well.

Yeah. I articulate it well. >> Two of the um

>> Two of the um >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. Most profound practices like the core

Most profound practices like the core practices

for evolution are one to meditate, reflect, contemplate, ruthlessly examine

reflect, contemplate, ruthlessly examine and ask who am I really?

and ask who am I really? Who am I?

Who am I? And where am I? Right? That's another

And where am I? Right? That's another good one.

good one. >> Planet Earth.

>> Planet Earth. >> Really? Okay. So, you think who am I?

>> Really? Okay. So, you think who am I? And and as you sit with that, right, you

And and as you sit with that, right, you you can't not

you can't not come to the conclusion that you are not

come to the conclusion that you are not the body and the stories that you're

the body and the stories that you're telling yourself. You are something far

telling yourself. You are something far greater. You can't not a ruthless and

greater. You can't not a ruthless and and honest examination of that question

and honest examination of that question will lead you to the truth. And the

will lead you to the truth. And the truth is one thing's going on here, not

truth is one thing's going on here, not two, one thing. And everything else is

two, one thing. And everything else is just a story in the in the in the form

just a story in the in the in the form of kind of like a dream.

of kind of like a dream. So you're telling a story within your

So you're telling a story within your dream that is causing you suffering. So

dream that is causing you suffering. So so change the story. The second is uh

so change the story. The second is uh momentum mori

momentum mori um contemplating death

um contemplating death right because like you don't have to be

right because like you don't have to be here right you could have offed yourself

here right you could have offed yourself in your misery

in your misery five years ago or sooner right and you

five years ago or sooner right and you might have even contemplated it but you

might have even contemplated it but you >> very close. Yes.

>> very close. Yes. >> Yeah. You didn't, right? You chose life.

>> Yeah. You didn't, right? You chose life. And so every day that you wake up and

And so every day that you wake up and you're here and you choose life, like

you're here and you choose life, like that is something to celebrate.

that is something to celebrate. Life is the expression of your I amness,

Life is the expression of your I amness, right? It's it's joyful. It's it's

right? It's it's joyful. It's it's incredible. It's an incredibly precious

incredible. It's an incredibly precious gift.

gift. >> And life chose you.

>> And life chose you. >> And life chose you. Yeah. I I I am quite

>> And life chose you. Yeah. I I I am quite certain that there are countless beings

certain that there are countless beings who would absolutely love to be in every

who would absolutely love to be in every one of our shoes right now to experience

one of our shoes right now to experience life.

life. It is a precious gift and we take it so

It is a precious gift and we take it so for granted. So momentum is to meditate

for granted. So momentum is to meditate on no thingness on death. What it would

on no thingness on death. What it would be like if you weren't here, you would

be like if you weren't here, you would have no conscious awareness of this body

have no conscious awareness of this body mind state anymore. You wouldn't have

mind state anymore. You wouldn't have your kids. You wouldn't have your

your kids. You wouldn't have your family. You wouldn't have your your this

family. You wouldn't have your your this precious life. You wouldn't have the

precious life. You wouldn't have the future, the dreams,

future, the dreams, and

and >> you wouldn't have the suffering.

>> you wouldn't have the suffering. >> And you wouldn't have the suffering. So

>> And you wouldn't have the suffering. So So are you willing to get rid of the

So are you willing to get rid of the suffering to lean into choosing life,

suffering to lean into choosing life, right? Or or are you going to short

right? Or or are you going to short change life and and cheat life by

change life and and cheat life by continuing to hold on to the suffering?

continuing to hold on to the suffering? And most people do that, by the way, and

And most people do that, by the way, and they get to the end of their life and

they get to the end of their life and they're they suddenly realize that they

they're they suddenly realize that they held on to these stories and these false

held on to these stories and these false beliefs and the suffering for so long

beliefs and the suffering for so long and they literally

and they literally they miss their entire lives.

they miss their entire lives. >> And one of the things that I've really

>> And one of the things that I've really taken away from the work that I've been

taken away from the work that I've been doing these last couple years is we are

doing these last couple years is we are the ones we've been waiting for. That's

the ones we've been waiting for. That's a Hopey prophecy.

a Hopey prophecy. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> We are the ones we've been waiting for

>> We are the ones we've been waiting for and our ancestors prayed us into

and our ancestors prayed us into existence. So the fact that you guys are

existence. So the fact that you guys are all sitting here today and we're talking

all sitting here today and we're talking about growth and evolution within our

about growth and evolution within our own selves,

own selves, we are breaking generational patterns

we are breaking generational patterns and that takes courage, strength,

and that takes courage, strength, discipline, focus because our ancestors

discipline, focus because our ancestors prayed us into existence so that we

prayed us into existence so that we could be the generations that broke

could be the generations that broke patterns and awakened to be in service

patterns and awakened to be in service to the future generations. Right? Our

to the future generations. Right? Our children inherit the earth whether

children inherit the earth whether they're your children or the children of

they're your children or the children of others.

others. So every action, every breath we take,

So every action, every breath we take, are we honoring the waters of our

are we honoring the waters of our ancestors, of our bodies, of the future

ancestors, of our bodies, of the future generations? Really important.

generations? Really important. >> That's beautiful. I love that.

>> That's beautiful. I love that. Great question. Thanks so much.

Great question. Thanks so much. >> All right, thank you so much. Patrick

>> All right, thank you so much. Patrick and Gita, you can go ahead next and then

and Gita, you can go ahead next and then we'll take uh gas after. And you got to

we'll take uh gas after. And you got to listen care.

listen care. >> Okay. Uh thank you. Quite a quick uh

>> Okay. Uh thank you. Quite a quick uh practical question. Uh well it's

practical question. Uh well it's regarding meditation. I've been

regarding meditation. I've been attending several challenges and yeah

attending several challenges and yeah it's crucial that the key point for all

it's crucial that the key point for all these channel a bit of the leadership

these channel a bit of the leadership challenges and all the practices is the

challenges and all the practices is the meditation. Uh however uh as a very very

meditation. Uh however uh as a very very technical person in in my real life uh I

technical person in in my real life uh I struggle with meditating. Yeah, in

struggle with meditating. Yeah, in particular it is very hard to let my

particular it is very hard to let my mind free uh to release myself even it

mind free uh to release myself even it is also a little bit trouble uh to

is also a little bit trouble uh to practice both briefing as well because

practice both briefing as well because as soon as I try to release my mind

as soon as I try to release my mind reality kicks in some logical and this

reality kicks in some logical and this detailed everyday stuff kick in again so

detailed everyday stuff kick in again so it means that probably I can practice

it means that probably I can practice meditation well enough I've did done a

meditation well enough I've did done a martial arts When I was a little bit

martial arts When I was a little bit younger, I was familiar with uh Bruce

younger, I was familiar with uh Bruce Lee and Zen meditation techniques even

Lee and Zen meditation techniques even back then. I tried to practice

back then. I tried to practice meditation and wasn't quite successful

meditation and wasn't quite successful with it and now it happens again. Could

with it and now it happens again. Could it mean that all this practice is just

it mean that all this practice is just not suitable for me? Or are there any uh

not suitable for me? Or are there any uh practical tips how to get deeper into

practical tips how to get deeper into meditation and how to learn this

meditation and how to learn this meditation to learn how to release

meditation to learn how to release yourself and maybe get rid of this

yourself and maybe get rid of this today's moment uh daily uh practices and

today's moment uh daily uh practices and maybe yeah let it be free and dig deeper

maybe yeah let it be free and dig deeper into yourself. Maybe I know there are

into yourself. Maybe I know there are people uh who maybe might not be

people uh who maybe might not be suitable for meditation but I hope I'm

suitable for meditation but I hope I'm not one. I would like to learn any

not one. I would like to learn any practical tips for that. Thanks.

practical tips for that. Thanks. >> Do you want me to answer that?

>> Do you want me to answer that? >> Let me ask start with it. Um

>> I never said meditation would be easy. I just said it'd be worth it and you have

just said it'd be worth it and you have you can demystify it because you every

you can demystify it because you every day you wake up, right? And and you have

day you wake up, right? And and you have something you have time and and so the

something you have time and and so the question is what are you going to do

question is what are you going to do with your mind during that time? If you

with your mind during that time? If you want to train your mind to be more

want to train your mind to be more stable and focused and so you're not um

stable and focused and so you're not um taken off track when you do travel and

taken off track when you do travel and you get about in your day, then you have

you get about in your day, then you have to you have to do something with it

to you have to do something with it that's different and you have the

that's different and you have the morning to do that. You have the evening

morning to do that. You have the evening to do that and you have certain little

to do that and you have certain little times during the day where you do have

times during the day where you do have time to like refocus and and bring your

time to like refocus and and bring your mind back. So meditation doesn't have to

mind back. So meditation doesn't have to be some fancy spiritual thing. It's

be some fancy spiritual thing. It's really not. It's training the mind to

really not. It's training the mind to still itself to be more calm and clear

still itself to be more calm and clear and focused. Box breathing or uh

and focused. Box breathing or uh breathing breath awareness practice is

breathing breath awareness practice is really helpful for that. But with

really helpful for that. But with someone like you who has a very active

someone like you who has a very active mind, a mantra is very helpful because a

mind, a mantra is very helpful because a mantra gives your mind something to kind

mantra gives your mind something to kind of like grab onto and to do. And so um

of like grab onto and to do. And so um if you can come up with a mantra that is

if you can come up with a mantra that is suitable for you and positive and

suitable for you and positive and motivating and it could be in your

motivating and it could be in your language

language or it could be like one of the classic

or it could be like one of the classic Sanskrit mantras like omnashivaya or omi

Sanskrit mantras like omnashivaya or omi padion um which have a lot of energy

padion um which have a lot of energy because there's millions of people

because there's millions of people around the world who are actively

around the world who are actively chanting that in their mind also it's

chanting that in their mind also it's got you know thousands of years of

got you know thousands of years of energy and so it lit quite literally in

energy and so it lit quite literally in an energetic frequency if you chant uh

an energetic frequency if you chant uh one of those ancient

one of those ancient um sounds like or

um sounds like or padm then you are kind of like bringing

padm then you are kind of like bringing your mind into resonance with that

your mind into resonance with that lineage of those millions of people who

lineage of those millions of people who are on the same path as you um so it's

are on the same path as you um so it's got a lot of power and it holds it's it

got a lot of power and it holds it's it helps you hold your attention so you can

helps you hold your attention so you can practice that mantra in the morning and

practice that mantra in the morning and the evening in your box breathing

the evening in your box breathing practice let's say you only doing 10

practice let's say you only doing 10 minutes in the morning just do the

minutes in the morning just do the mantra repeat it over and over and over

mantra repeat it over and over and over in your mind same thing at night and do

in your mind same thing at night and do it again and again. And then what you

it again and again. And then what you want to do is during the day bring that

want to do is during the day bring that mantra into your mind and just have it

mantra into your mind and just have it running. Whenever you're not talking,

running. Whenever you're not talking, whenever you're not doing, just come

whenever you're not doing, just come come back to the mantra. Come back to

come back to the mantra. Come back to the mantra. Eventually, you will find

the mantra. Eventually, you will find that the mantra will play automatically

that the mantra will play automatically and you'll it'll help you hold your

and you'll it'll help you hold your attention and what it does it stabilizes

attention and what it does it stabilizes your mind so it's not bouncing all over

your mind so it's not bouncing all over the place. I I think that to me what

the place. I I think that to me what that came up to me is you need a mantra

that came up to me is you need a mantra and you need to like own it and that'll

and you need to like own it and that'll help you big time.

help you big time. >> Yeah. Um,

>> Yeah. Um, >> thanks.

>> thanks. >> I will offer that

>> I will offer that it's a it's a practice. Like Mark said,

it's a it's a practice. Like Mark said, some of what I'm going to say is going

some of what I'm going to say is going to be repetitive, but when I first

to be repetitive, but when I first started meditating, my mind was not

started meditating, my mind was not quiet for the first four years.

quiet for the first four years. And I meditated twice a day. Um, it just

And I meditated twice a day. Um, it just was so I thought I think a lot. I'm a a

was so I thought I think a lot. I'm a a super active mind as well. And it and

super active mind as well. And it and when I first started I was a

when I first started I was a professional cook so I was very like in

professional cook so I was very like in a quick lifestyle too of things

a quick lifestyle too of things happening by the seconds. Um so it was

happening by the seconds. Um so it was really challenging and so I can only say

really challenging and so I can only say that it for me and I've seen this with

that it for me and I've seen this with so many students is the story is that I

so many students is the story is that I can't meditate because I'm thinking

can't meditate because I'm thinking and like what Mark said is like it's

and like what Mark said is like it's it's about doing it. It's about setting

it's about doing it. It's about setting the time and watching the thoughts

the time and watching the thoughts because the thoughts will still

because the thoughts will still themselves so you're not trying to

themselves so you're not trying to control your thoughts. What you're doing

control your thoughts. What you're doing is starting to recognize that the

is starting to recognize that the thoughts maybe are controlling you.

thoughts maybe are controlling you. That's the first thing is like that

That's the first thing is like that you're so merged with the thoughts. I

you're so merged with the thoughts. I heard Mark say that when I came in

heard Mark say that when I came in earlier is like you're so merged with

earlier is like you're so merged with the thoughts that I think I am my

the thoughts that I think I am my thought. And then by starting to just

thought. And then by starting to just sit and watch the thinking, watch the

sit and watch the thinking, watch the thinking, watching the breath, that that

thinking, watching the breath, that that starts to show you

starts to show you the the the nature of watching the

the the the nature of watching the thinking versus being in the thought. So

thinking versus being in the thought. So being in the thought is when you're

being in the thought is when you're caught up in the story, caught up in the

caught up in the story, caught up in the thinking. Oh, I gotta go do this and

thinking. Oh, I gotta go do this and then this and I don't have enough time

then this and I don't have enough time for that. And I'm so identified with it

for that. And I'm so identified with it that my heart's actually getting a

that my heart's actually getting a little bit more, you know, fast. And um

little bit more, you know, fast. And um I'm feeling like I can't meditate. This

I'm feeling like I can't meditate. This is a waste of time. And that's what I

is a waste of time. And that's what I thought at first. Like I'm not doing

thought at first. Like I'm not doing this. I went back to my teacher like

this. I went back to my teacher like this is a waste of my time. Um

this is a waste of my time. Um like what? No thank you. And then but

like what? No thank you. And then but then it's like and then you're like

then it's like and then you're like watching it going I don't have enough

watching it going I don't have enough time. I need to do this later. But

time. I need to do this later. But there's less of an engagement. That's

there's less of an engagement. That's when you're starting to get more into

when you're starting to get more into the witness state of the thought. You're

the witness state of the thought. You're starting to sit back like as if you were

starting to sit back like as if you were watching Mark and I have the

watching Mark and I have the conversation that we had. You're

conversation that we had. You're watching and you're just watching the

watching and you're just watching the thinking and you're even maybe watching

thinking and you're even maybe watching how you want to respond or react to the

how you want to respond or react to the thinking. That's like the first step of

thinking. That's like the first step of meditation. Uh mantra is super powerful.

meditation. Uh mantra is super powerful. I agree with Mark. Mantra is like

I agree with Mark. Mantra is like another first step. It's it's usually

another first step. It's it's usually given before someone is prescribed

given before someone is prescribed meditation. It's get mantras first and

meditation. It's get mantras first and it needs to be simple. It needs to be

it needs to be simple. It needs to be concise and something you can feel

concise and something you can feel empowered but not something that you

empowered but not something that you feel identified with.

feel identified with. >> Mh.

>> Mh. >> So something simple, concise and not an

>> So something simple, concise and not an identity, right?

identity, right? >> Um the other part of it is the breathing

>> Um the other part of it is the breathing piece, the box breathing. If you're

piece, the box breathing. If you're finding it challenging, this is where

finding it challenging, this is where counting like it's traditional to count.

counting like it's traditional to count. So inhaling and counting to yourself 2 3

So inhaling and counting to yourself 2 3 4 holding 2 3. So your mind's focusing

4 holding 2 3. So your mind's focusing on the counting

on the counting and you're not wasting your time doing

and you're not wasting your time doing the breath work because the breath is

the breath work because the breath is going to change your physiology. And

going to change your physiology. And then again just like eventually when

then again just like eventually when you're practicing watching your thinking

you're practicing watching your thinking the thoughts that once controlled you

the thoughts that once controlled you now you're letting go of trying of

now you're letting go of trying of letting the thoughts control you. You're

letting the thoughts control you. You're not trying to control the thoughts. They

not trying to control the thoughts. They eventually will settle. The way if you

eventually will settle. The way if you shake up a a thing of water that has a

shake up a a thing of water that has a bunch of glitter in it, you shake it,

bunch of glitter in it, you shake it, shake it, shake it, and then you put it

shake it, shake it, and then you put it back down, all the glitter is going to

back down, all the glitter is going to go to the bottom. All that like they

go to the bottom. All that like they call them vitis in the Sanskrit. All the

call them vitis in the Sanskrit. All the mental activity is going to settle down.

mental activity is going to settle down. And then the clarity of the water scene,

And then the clarity of the water scene, then the clarity, the pause, the

then the clarity, the pause, the presence. Now again, that took me four

presence. Now again, that took me four years to even have a glimpse of that.

years to even have a glimpse of that. And then after about five years, I

And then after about five years, I started to have what I would consider a

started to have what I would consider a meditative state where I my thoughts

meditative state where I my thoughts were quiet. I was present and in

were quiet. I was present and in awareness.

awareness. So it it takes time. It takes patience.

So it it takes time. It takes patience. And it's not about trying to meditate.

And it's not about trying to meditate. It's just practicing sitting still,

It's just practicing sitting still, practicing

practicing watching your mind, watching what it's

watching your mind, watching what it's up to. What are those thoughts up to? So

up to. What are those thoughts up to? So you know and then letting go of

you know and then letting go of identification of the thinking

identification of the thinking disengaging

disengaging from

from that I have to do this or that I am that

that I have to do this or that I am that right I am not sad I am feeling sadness.

right I am not sad I am feeling sadness. Do you know that that's the difference

Do you know that that's the difference Katherine is not sad

Katherine is not sad but Katherine experiences sadness.

but Katherine experiences sadness. Catherine is not happy, but Katherine

Catherine is not happy, but Katherine experiences happiness. This is the

experiences happiness. This is the transitory nature of emotions. They're

transitory nature of emotions. They're always changing. Catherine is something

always changing. Catherine is something else. I'm not even Katherine. Back to

else. I'm not even Katherine. Back to like Mark's like maybe we're on a planet

like Mark's like maybe we're on a planet Earth cuz it's not planet Earth. That's

Earth cuz it's not planet Earth. That's a a word that was identified that we've

a a word that was identified that we've all been taught that this is planet

all been taught that this is planet Earth. It's something else. Right? So

Earth. It's something else. Right? So like we're going be we're peeling back

like we're going be we're peeling back the labels. We're peeling back my first

the labels. We're peeling back my first name Katherine that was given to me.

name Katherine that was given to me. Right? then who's there?

Right? then who's there? And that's meditation. It's it's a un an

And that's meditation. It's it's a un an undoing and then a recollection and a

undoing and then a recollection and a remembering. And the remembering and

remembering. And the remembering and recollection is expansive and it uh

it it travels past the boundaries in which we expect or know.

which we expect or know. >> Right? And and so that's again back to

>> Right? And and so that's again back to practice and trust and like the other

practice and trust and like the other thing I'll say is because it's what Will

thing I'll say is because it's what Will told me which I really appreciate too uh

told me which I really appreciate too uh the man that has taught me some martial

the man that has taught me some martial arts and some of you probably have

arts and some of you probably have experienced his breath empowerment I

experienced his breath empowerment I imagine but is for people that really

imagine but is for people that really have a hard time in seated meditation is

have a hard time in seated meditation is put them in horse stance and have them

put them in horse stance and have them sit with open eyes and breathe standing

sit with open eyes and breathe standing in a squat.

in a squat. because you can't think about much after

because you can't think about much after about 60 seconds of a squat.

about 60 seconds of a squat. >> That's great.

>> That's great. >> And you're just you're ground. It's a

>> And you're just you're ground. It's a super grounding. It's you know it's

super grounding. It's you know it's chiong. It's really strong. Um the only

chiong. It's really strong. Um the only other thing I could offer is a c you

other thing I could offer is a c you know I really like meditating openeyed

know I really like meditating openeyed with candles to for people that have

with candles to for people that have really active minds. So light a candle,

really active minds. So light a candle, stare at the candle. Thinking thinking

stare at the candle. Thinking thinking thinking. I'm looking at the flame.

thinking. I'm looking at the flame. What's the flame doing? The flame is

What's the flame doing? The flame is doing this. The flame is doing that. The

doing this. The flame is doing that. The flame is doing this. The flame is doing

flame is doing this. The flame is doing that. It's standing still while it's

that. It's standing still while it's shifting to the left. It's shifting to

shifting to the left. It's shifting to the right. And you just watch the flame

the right. And you just watch the flame and you start to notice the fire. And

and you start to notice the fire. And the fire will teach you how to be

the fire will teach you how to be present. Fire is one of our ancestors.

present. Fire is one of our ancestors. >> Thank you. Much appreciated. Wonderful

>> Thank you. Much appreciated. Wonderful tips. Yeah, I will definitely try uh

tips. Yeah, I will definitely try uh exactly probably what explanation and

exactly probably what explanation and what tips I have been missing. So yeah,

what tips I have been missing. So yeah, I will try to practice. No, I I always

I will try to practice. No, I I always say I shouldn't say try. I will

say I shouldn't say try. I will practice. Yeah, reference yesterday

practice. Yeah, reference yesterday lecture. Yeah, I will definitely will.

lecture. Yeah, I will definitely will. No, try uh no middleware bar results.

No, try uh no middleware bar results. Thank you very much. Yeah, perfect,

Thank you very much. Yeah, perfect, Katherine. I'm I'm very impressed. Thank

Katherine. I'm I'm very impressed. Thank you.

you. >> Thank you, Andrea. Appreciate it,

>> Thank you, Andrea. Appreciate it, Patricia. We got time for these last two

Patricia. We got time for these last two um for Patricia and then Kush and then

um for Patricia and then Kush and then uh we'll uh wrap up.

Good morning. Um

Um >> yeah uh my question is okay so um women

>> yeah uh my question is okay so um women are increasing in numbers in leadership

are increasing in numbers in leadership uh we are the minority majority so

uh we are the minority majority so there's a lot of things that hold us

there's a lot of things that hold us back uh cultural programming family

back uh cultural programming family programming and a lot of times ourselves

programming and a lot of times ourselves so my mantra is change the game that's

so my mantra is change the game that's what I do so change it for the better um

what I do so change it for the better um so a lot of our work cultures are set up

so a lot of our work cultures are set up to if you are the um the weirdo. And I

to if you are the um the weirdo. And I honestly if you want to change the game,

honestly if you want to change the game, you're the weirdo and you will attract

you're the weirdo and you will attract the flying monkeys and everybody will

the flying monkeys and everybody will try to put you back in place, put you

try to put you back in place, put you back in the box.

back in the box. >> And so, how do you build an environment

>> And so, how do you build an environment where cultural programming sets us up to

where cultural programming sets us up to take out the weirdo?

take out the weirdo? >> Oh, wow.

>> Oh, wow. >> It's a great question.

>> It's a great question. >> Such a great question. Um weirdos

>> Such a great question. Um weirdos weirdos are warriors.

weirdos are warriors. Right. Um, you have to make yourself

Right. Um, you have to make yourself Absolutely.

Absolutely. >> Yeah. You have to recognize that you're

>> Yeah. You have to recognize that you're being a you're leading, right? And where

being a you're leading, right? And where you're leading to is a place where what

you're leading to is a place where what you see right now will become normal.

you see right now will become normal. >> Hopefully in your lifetime, but if not,

>> Hopefully in your lifetime, but if not, right?

right? >> They say the UN says 386 years till

>> They say the UN says 386 years till women re um achieve equity in the United

women re um achieve equity in the United States. 386 years. It used to be 181,

States. 386 years. It used to be 181, but since we've had a a backslide,

but since we've had a a backslide, >> you know what? I I wouldn't believe

>> you know what? I I wouldn't believe anything the UN says. Personally, I

anything the UN says. Personally, I don't you know, that's those are all

don't you know, that's those are all just stories.

just stories. >> Oh, but but okay, but you know, there

>> Oh, but but okay, but you know, there are certain things that we can agree

are certain things that we can agree upon that, you know, we should have

upon that, you know, we should have reproductive rights that, you know,

reproductive rights that, you know, reproductive rights is about

reproductive rights is about >> health and quality of life

>> health and quality of life >> and those things are in question in the

>> and those things are in question in the United States today. And so that's a

United States today. And so that's a degradation of our quality of life. We

degradation of our quality of life. We have the highest infant mortality rate

have the highest infant mortality rate of any western nation in the world. We

of any western nation in the world. We have the highest morbidity rate for

have the highest morbidity rate for pregnant women.

pregnant women. >> Uh we our research dollars uh only 10%

>> Uh we our research dollars uh only 10% of them are actually devoted towards

of them are actually devoted towards women. So women have a lot of issues.

women. So women have a lot of issues. Our bodies change throughout our

Our bodies change throughout our lifetime. And I always say you know men

lifetime. And I always say you know men say strap on boobs but I say strap on a

say strap on boobs but I say strap on a pair of boobs. And I bet you wouldn't

pair of boobs. And I bet you wouldn't last a week when you're going through

last a week when you're going through all the hormonal changes that women have

all the hormonal changes that women have to go through.

to go through. Probably not. Okay. So, I'm not

Probably not. Okay. So, I'm not disagreeing with any of all that, but

disagreeing with any of all that, but those are out of that's out of your

those are out of that's out of your control. What you can control is your

control. What you can control is your world.

world. >> Your world. And your world is

>> Your world. And your world is >> But I'm trying to change the world. And

>> But I'm trying to change the world. And so, I'm not really trying. You can only

so, I'm not really trying. You can only change your world.

change your world. If you are a change agent, you actually

If you are a change agent, you actually and mothers know this better than anyone

and mothers know this better than anyone that we are actually, you know, we're

that we are actually, you know, we're programming the next generation through

programming the next generation through programming our kids, right?

programming our kids, right? >> And so we actually just as we can

>> And so we actually just as we can program ourselves, we can also program

program ourselves, we can also program others. And you you know that you just

others. And you you know that you just said that in your prior presentation

said that in your prior presentation when you were talking about

when you were talking about >> I would say

>> I would say >> bringing your war yourself

>> bringing your war yourself >> you with with looking at the first thing

>> you with with looking at the first thing to do when you talk about um how do we

to do when you talk about um how do we change it to create more equity for

change it to create more equity for women is exploring how women have been

women is exploring how women have been been defined

been defined through the patriarchal lens.

through the patriarchal lens. How you still and what Mark what Mark is

How you still and what Mark what Mark is saying is how are you still identifying

saying is how are you still identifying through that lens and then shifting

through that lens and then shifting those changes in ourselves. So if I look

those changes in ourselves. So if I look at myself and I say this is what

at myself and I say this is what femininity is but then I really unpack

femininity is but then I really unpack it and go no this is what the the

it and go no this is what the the dominant male overculture taught me what

dominant male overculture taught me what it was to be a woman.

it was to be a woman. then I can start to make shifts and

then I can start to make shifts and embody my femininity

embody my femininity in my truth in I in I did my masters in

in my truth in I in I did my masters in transformative leadership and I've

transformative leadership and I've specialized in women's leadership in

specialized in women's leadership in that way because a lot of what women do

that way because a lot of what women do in the workplace and in leadership is

in the workplace and in leadership is they embody what men do and it's a huge

they embody what men do and it's a huge mistake

mistake >> and it's creating suffering and illness

>> and it's creating suffering and illness for women

for women and so One of the most empowering things

and so One of the most empowering things we can do is look at how to show up

we can do is look at how to show up fully in our bodies as sovereign beings

fully in our bodies as sovereign beings which is challenging like you said when

which is challenging like you said when the government still defines that what

the government still defines that what we can and cannot do with our bodies.

we can and cannot do with our bodies. Correct. Because that is happening and

Correct. Because that is happening and that is very real in the United States

that is very real in the United States right now and no male can understand

right now and no male can understand what that feels like for us. And at the

what that feels like for us. And at the same time, we can claim our own

same time, we can claim our own sovereignty in this moment and recognize

sovereignty in this moment and recognize that we are empowered and that we don't

that we are empowered and that we don't have to be in reaction to or take action

have to be in reaction to or take action against. Does that make sense?

against. Does that make sense? >> Oh, that doesn't to me at all. Because I

>> Oh, that doesn't to me at all. Because I feel like if you want to change the

feel like if you want to change the game, you have to go and you have to

game, you have to go and you have to challenge it. You have to take it to

challenge it. You have to take it to them. And so a lot of times I do become

them. And so a lot of times I do become the elephant in that, you know, it's

the elephant in that, you know, it's like, oh my gosh, it's like they are

like, oh my gosh, it's like they are like they're lemmings. They are going

like they're lemmings. They are going off the edge. And you know, lemmings uh

off the edge. And you know, lemmings uh aren't known for their intelligence. So

aren't known for their intelligence. So I feel like I have to be like the

I feel like I have to be like the rampaging elephant and get out in front

rampaging elephant and get out in front of them and divert as many as I can. And

of them and divert as many as I can. And and I do that. I like, okay, well, here

and I do that. I like, okay, well, here it goes. because I really haven't, you

it goes. because I really haven't, you know, it's like I I haven't I always

know, it's like I I haven't I always have plans A through F, you know, it's

have plans A through F, you know, it's like where are you going to go? How are

like where are you going to go? How are you going to do this? How are you going

you going to do this? How are you going to handle that? And I adjust as I go,

to handle that? And I adjust as I go, but I am going to take and challenge

but I am going to take and challenge that. And it's like mama's going to

that. And it's like mama's going to teach you a lesson, baby. Here we go.

teach you a lesson, baby. Here we go. And I don't

And I don't >> what's her name?

>> what's her name? >> And I don't apologize for that. And I

>> And I don't apologize for that. And I think and actually I try to have fun

think and actually I try to have fun with it. I always bring my sense of

with it. I always bring my sense of humor because if you can't laugh at

humor because if you can't laugh at yourself, it's like who can you laugh

yourself, it's like who can you laugh at? and move on tool.

at? and move on tool. >> I will leave you with this. Um, you

>> I will leave you with this. Um, you can't change

can't change a system or way of thinking from the

a system or way of thinking from the same paradigm that created it. So, you

same paradigm that created it. So, you need to embody, this is Katherine's

need to embody, this is Katherine's point, you can you can embody an

point, you can you can embody an entirely new paradigm which is expressed

entirely new paradigm which is expressed through how you show up.

through how you show up. Gandhi said, be the change you want to

Gandhi said, be the change you want to see in the world first.

see in the world first. If you can't if you aren't being that

If you can't if you aren't being that change, then trying to force others to

change, then trying to force others to change is a fruitless.

change is a fruitless. >> So, you gota begin to operate from a

>> So, you gota begin to operate from a completely different paradigm

completely different paradigm >> and that that's I'll just leave it

>> and that that's I'll just leave it there. I don't there's we don't have

there. I don't there's we don't have time for more discussion about it.

time for more discussion about it. >> It's a good conversation. I would love

>> It's a good conversation. I would love to keep going on it.

to keep going on it. >> We're just running out of time.

>> We're just running out of time. >> Um and and maybe from your perspective,

>> Um and and maybe from your perspective, you are being that change, but the point

you are being that change, but the point is to keep being the change. keep being

is to keep being the change. keep being the change so that so that you show up

the change so that so that you show up and it's your example

and it's your example that is the change agent. It's your

that is the change agent. It's your example.

example. >> The thing is but the thing is though is

>> The thing is but the thing is though is that you need to get to 30% to be able

that you need to get to 30% to be able to create cultural transformative

to create cultural transformative change.

change. >> Understand? And they need to be the

>> Understand? And they need to be the change for that that to happen as well.

change for that that to happen as well. So you're more in a um re a role to

So you're more in a um re a role to reflect what that change looks like and

reflect what that change looks like and to provide uh opportunities for the

to provide uh opportunities for the transformation to happen within those

transformation to happen within those other 30%.

other 30%. >> As opposed to attacking in the

>> As opposed to attacking in the organization.

organization. >> I would really recommend non-violent

>> I would really recommend non-violent communication by Marshall Rosenberg and

communication by Marshall Rosenberg and look into his work.

look into his work. >> It's one of the most effective

>> It's one of the most effective >> uh styles of communication to help shift

>> uh styles of communication to help shift organizations. And also look at the book

organizations. And also look at the book Immunity to Change if you haven't looked

Immunity to Change if you haven't looked at that book. those Marshall Rosen uh

at that book. those Marshall Rosen uh Berg's work uh non-violent communication

Berg's work uh non-violent communication and there's trainings in that. It's

and there's trainings in that. It's phenomenal. I've been through it. Uh and

phenomenal. I've been through it. Uh and also uh immunity to change which are

also uh immunity to change which are which is a training from two Harvard

which is a training from two Harvard professors that have done a lot of

professors that have done a lot of research and why things don't change

research and why things don't change whether it's organizationally or uh

whether it's organizationally or uh individually. Those two references would

individually. Those two references would be great for you. But I applaud you. Big

be great for you. But I applaud you. Big work. Huge work.

work. Huge work. >> Yeah. Warrior work.

>> Yeah. Warrior work. >> Thank you. Thank you.

>> Thank you. Thank you. >> Perfect. Um, one more, just the last

>> Perfect. Um, one more, just the last one. Let's go. Thank you, Kush,

one. Let's go. Thank you, Kush, >> for your patience.

>> for your patience. >> Absolutely. Thank you. Absolutely. You

>> Absolutely. Thank you. Absolutely. You got it. Uh, Mark, first and foremost,

got it. Uh, Mark, first and foremost, uh, I want to thank you for for you. I'm

uh, I want to thank you for for you. I'm grateful to you and for you because you

grateful to you and for you because you will you through your work and I'm still

will you through your work and I'm still going through your books, uh, you've

going through your books, uh, you've allowed me to continue to to connect

allowed me to continue to to connect with my warrior leader. Uh, so I'm

with my warrior leader. Uh, so I'm really grateful for that. Um, very

really grateful for that. Um, very quickly backstory. Age 14, 15, brain

quickly backstory. Age 14, 15, brain trauma. Uh, hit by a car. Uh, this is

trauma. Uh, hit by a car. Uh, this is back in the days before bike helmets

back in the days before bike helmets were mandatory. Uh, coma for a month,

were mandatory. Uh, coma for a month, hospitalized six months. Anyway, when I

hospitalized six months. Anyway, when I returned back to high school, a lot of

returned back to high school, a lot of behavioral issues, bullied, severe uh

behavioral issues, bullied, severe uh severe bullying, and then attempted

severe bullying, and then attempted suicide twice. Managed to get past that.

suicide twice. Managed to get past that. um you know had a career had careers but

um you know had a career had careers but now here I'm finding myself

now here I'm finding myself um

um I'm 56 years old I'm broke I'm

I'm 56 years old I'm broke I'm unemployed

unemployed I'm massively in debt and

I'm massively in debt and I've got my senior citizen parents right

I've got my senior citizen parents right now helping me out financially so you

now helping me out financially so you can only imagine what that does to my

can only imagine what that does to my self-esteem

self-esteem um And more recently what has come about

um And more recently what has come about is that uh the reasons I've made so many

is that uh the reasons I've made so many poor decisions financially throughout my

poor decisions financially throughout my life because of the cognitive issues

life because of the cognitive issues that for decades I tried to dismiss

that for decades I tried to dismiss because I don't like being a victim. I

because I don't like being a victim. I don't like being a victim to my

don't like being a victim to my circumstances. But there's part of me

circumstances. But there's part of me that after this discussion I had with my

that after this discussion I had with my parents a few days ago,

parents a few days ago, maybe I need to acknowledge what's there

maybe I need to acknowledge what's there and um be okay with it. But how

and um be okay with it. But how because you know you you you talked

because you know you you you talked about you had to rely on your family for

about you had to rely on your family for financial assistance during your time in

financial assistance during your time in the Coronado Brewing Company as well and

the Coronado Brewing Company as well and I'm putting them in massive financial

I'm putting them in massive financial strain and it just hurts me inside and

strain and it just hurts me inside and that's why right now I cannot uh it

that's why right now I cannot uh it doesn't make I don't have the resources

doesn't make I don't have the resources to become a member of the inner circle

to become a member of the inner circle or even the the the school tribe at the

or even the the the school tribe at the moment but I will because the ROI is

moment but I will because the ROI is incredible.

incredible. What do you recommend to sort of be able

What do you recommend to sort of be able to

accept what it is and still be able to free

what it is and still be able to free myself from that feeling that I have

myself from that feeling that I have been a failure

been a failure to to my family, to my parents.

to to my family, to my parents. >> Wow.

Well, wherever you are, there you are. And you

wherever you are, there you are. And you can start over. Every day is a new

can start over. Every day is a new opportunity. Every day is the first day

opportunity. Every day is the first day of the rest of your life. So,

of the rest of your life. So, congratulations because you got a clean

congratulations because you got a clean slate. You can create whatever you can

slate. You can create whatever you can envision

envision and whatever you can teach yourself to

and whatever you can teach yourself to believe and to feel into, you can

believe and to feel into, you can create. So, you can you can create

create. So, you can you can create awesome wealth from here on out. It's

awesome wealth from here on out. It's all within your creative capacity. You

all within your creative capacity. You are a creative being.

are a creative being. The only thing holds you back from a

The only thing holds you back from a creative being are the stories that you

creative being are the stories that you tell yourself. And guess what? It's not

tell yourself. And guess what? It's not easy, especially if you had brain trauma

easy, especially if you had brain trauma and a lot of other childhood traumas and

and a lot of other childhood traumas and you know um just throughout life trauma.

you know um just throughout life trauma. Um we those stories get pretty dang

Um we those stories get pretty dang rudded.

rudded. Freud called that the subconscious or

Freud called that the subconscious or the id.

the id. Uh, so one way to describe meditation is

Uh, so one way to describe meditation is to make the subconscious conscious to

to make the subconscious conscious to bring into awareness all of that crud,

bring into awareness all of that crud, all that crap that's been holding you

all that crap that's been holding you back, all those stories.

back, all those stories. Deconstruct.

Now, that's the that's the slow and subtle process. You can also take a

subtle process. You can also take a hammer to it, right?

hammer to it, right? >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> And I recommend both. Right. The hammer

>> And I recommend both. Right. The hammer is like cognitive behavioral therapy,

is like cognitive behavioral therapy, like taking a taking your pen and being

like taking a taking your pen and being ruthless and and start writing. They

ruthless and and start writing. They call it spiritual atalysis. Start

call it spiritual atalysis. Start writing all the things stories

writing all the things stories you've been telling yourself.

you've been telling yourself. Write them out.

Write them out. All the stories about not being good

All the stories about not being good enough, about being, you know, whatever,

enough, about being, you know, whatever, being a bully, about being broken

being a bully, about being broken because of your trauma and your coma,

because of your trauma and your coma, about not being worthy or, you know,

about not being worthy or, you know, about taking too many risks or not being

about taking too many risks or not being wanted to be seen as competent and

wanted to be seen as competent and worthy, letting your parents down. Start

worthy, letting your parents down. Start just take one of them and start tugging

just take one of them and start tugging on that string and just unravel the the

on that string and just unravel the the entire ball of thread with that because

entire ball of thread with that because none of that is true.

It's all And so, so like take your

And so, so like take your detector out, put it on high, and just

detector out, put it on high, and just start unraveling all that So

start unraveling all that So that's the that's the brute force

that's the that's the brute force approach while simultaneously in in your

approach while simultaneously in in your meditation,

meditation, you're just starting to surface all

you're just starting to surface all those stories. And when they when a

those stories. And when they when a story surface, you write it

story surface, you write it down. Excuse my language. And you pull

down. Excuse my language. And you pull that thread.

that thread. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Right. And I recommend you look at this

>> Right. And I recommend you look at this like a Manhattan project because what's

like a Manhattan project because what's at stake, the rest of your life is at

at stake, the rest of your life is at stake.

stake. I don't care if it takes you a month,

I don't care if it takes you a month, three months, six months. This is your

three months, six months. This is your year to get through all the stories to

year to get through all the stories to reset right where you're at to come on

reset right where you're at to come on to get yourself on stable ground. And

to get yourself on stable ground. And that stable ground feels good where

that stable ground feels good where you're like, I'm okay. Yeah. The fire

you're like, I'm okay. Yeah. The fire burn off all that get to a

burn off all that get to a place where you're like, "Okay, now I'm

place where you're like, "Okay, now I'm ready."

ready." And you and you start to create the new

And you and you start to create the new vision. And that new vision is as a

vision. And that new vision is as a healthy,

healthy, prosperous,

prosperous, right? Um, worthy individual

right? Um, worthy individual who's then able to be there to help your

who's then able to be there to help your parents when they're in need.

parents when they're in need. That's who you are. You have everything

That's who you are. You have everything that I just said within your power.

that I just said within your power. to create.

to create. But to get to the other side, you got to

But to get to the other side, you got to you got to uncreate the miscreations.

you got to uncreate the miscreations. You got to blow them up.

>> Thank you, Mark. God bless you. >> Yeah. God bless you, too. And when

>> Yeah. God bless you, too. And when you're ready, we'll see you in the inner

you're ready, we'll see you in the inner circle and I'll we'll light a fire in

circle and I'll we'll light a fire in that process.

that process. >> That make that one of your your targets,

>> That make that one of your your targets, right? Like when you got the financial

right? Like when you got the financial health only when you're ready, when you

health only when you're ready, when you have excess, that be one of your

have excess, that be one of your motivations, right? that and taking care

motivations, right? that and taking care of your parents. Being able to take care

of your parents. Being able to take care of your parents, those are two powerful

of your parents, those are two powerful motivations.

motivations. But you got to, you know, I like to say

But you got to, you know, I like to say manifestation only works, the creative

manifestation only works, the creative process only works when you can see it.

process only works when you can see it. You're clear about where you're going,

You're clear about where you're going, the vision, and you believe it.

the vision, and you believe it. And part of believing it is you have to

And part of believing it is you have to feel it. And so you have to get all that

feel it. And so you have to get all that crud out, all the stuff that's, you

crud out, all the stuff that's, you know, where the ego says one thing, but

know, where the ego says one thing, but you actually don't feel it because you

you actually don't feel it because you don't really believe it.

Great stuff. >> Thank you.

>> Thank you. >> Thank you all for uh being here. Thank

>> Thank you all for uh being here. Thank you for doing the work. Thank for for

you for doing the work. Thank for for being the change that you want to see in

being the change that you want to see in the world, of course. And we can do this

the world, of course. And we can do this at scale with programs like this and

at scale with programs like this and technology. Thank you, Christian and

technology. Thank you, Christian and Stephanie, for being here behind the

Stephanie, for being here behind the scenes and cranking the tech with

scenes and cranking the tech with incredible skill. Thank you, Katherine,

incredible skill. Thank you, Katherine, for joining me.

for joining me. >> Welcome.

>> Welcome. >> It's awesome.

>> It's awesome. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Always fun. Amazing, isn't she? Amazing.

>> Always fun. Amazing, isn't she? Amazing. Um, and hopefully we'll see you next

Um, and hopefully we'll see you next time or see you in the inner circle.

time or see you in the inner circle. We'll see you whenever. We're always

We'll see you whenever. We're always here. If you have a question, uh, just

here. If you have a question, uh, just reach out to, uh, Christian or info at

reach out to, uh, Christian or info at Unil Mind or Melanie at Unbe.

Unil Mind or Melanie at Unbe. So, with that, hya. Have an amazing

So, with that, hya. Have an amazing year.

year. >> We got this.

>> We got this. >> Thank you, sir.

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