0:09 from the heart of East Berlin a group of
0:13 middle-aged men ran the Cold War for the
0:15 East their strategy included the
0:18 standard tools of Espionage but they
0:42 from the early 1960s until the collapse
0:45 of Communism in 1989 this group spent
0:58 man their experiments helped create an
1:00 army of undercover agents who were
1:02 dispatched to the
1:05 West their task to seduce lonely West
1:07 German secretaries and persuade them to
1:30 secrets they left behind them a the
1:32 trail of abandoned and betrayed women
1:34 who had no idea their lovers were actually
1:35 actually
1:38 spies also were actually the best years
1:42 of my life I was 32 you know I could
1:44 have lived I could have had the life and I
1:51 didn't known as Romeos they were experts
2:01 love what problems do men have in deceiving
2:03 deceiving
2:05 women not too
2:08 many you know it's you do it once or
2:11 twice or three times and then you are
2:52 a lot of people will think it just
2:55 infatuation or sexual attraction it was
2:57 all of that but it was much much more it
3:02 was an eternal longing within me which I
3:05 never even knew I had until I actually saw
3:16 him from 1977 until 1984 Gabrielle CLE
3:17 had an affair with a man who she thought
3:19 was the love of her
3:22 life she was unaware that in reality he
3:25 was an East German spy mining her for
3:30 Secrets Gabrielle passed on more secrets
3:39 position he should have gotten and Oscar
3:43 Oscar would be too small of a award for
3:47 his uh portrayal you know because he was
3:51 a fantastic actor really seriously
3:55 because he never made me doubt this for a
4:00 minute the Romeos were trained to
4:02 exploit what different women dreamed of
4:04 in a
4:07 man Margaret herker met her Romeo lover in
4:09 in
4:12 1968 for 17 years she too unknowingly
4:21 East I suppose his instructions were to
4:25 humor me to adapt to me to listen be
4:27 attentive and at the time it was
4:29 important to have the feeling there was
4:32 someone there for me I'd never had that
4:35 before I'd never had anyone I could talk
4:52 problems the Romeo program which
4:54 entrapped Margaret and Gabrielle was
4:57 devised in the early 1960s by the hva
4:59 East Germany's foreign intelligence
5:03 service from their headquarters in East
5:05 Berlin it was intended to be a key part
5:08 of their battle with the
5:10 West these were the years of the Cold
5:13 War when Germany was divided into
5:16 communist East and capitalist
5:19 West at its heart was the Berlin Wall
5:22 which divided the city in two East and
5:25 West were sworn enemies representing
5:28 rival ideologies and rival military
5:31 blocks it was crucial for the hva to
5:40 thinking our main goal was to infiltrate
5:43 the key power centers of the West NATO
5:49 government we thought about how to
5:51 penetrate these targets and we came up
5:53 with the idea of going for single
5:55 secretaries who had positions in important
6:04 it was the Romeo's job to seduce the
6:07 Western secretaries and mine them for
6:10 Secrets the East Germans looked for very
6:12 specific qualities in the men who were
6:14 to be sent to the
6:19 West the typical Romeo was between 25 and
6:20 and
6:24 35 a good-looking well educated East
6:26 shman he had good
6:39 women first and foremost they had to be
6:42 politically reliable what was the use of
6:48 trusted we were looking for faith in the
6:50 Party Loyalty willingness to join the
6:53 struggle so we valued political
6:55 reliability Above All [Music]
6:57 [Music]
7:00 Else strangely enough these secretaries
7:02 often fell in love with men who weren't
7:03 always that
7:06 good-look they had other qualities for
7:08 example they might be a father figure
7:11 reliable and
7:13 serious more important to these women
7:16 was the inner values of these men men
7:19 who made them think yes I could share my
7:25 him he was the kind of man who when he
7:27 walks into a room you think he's
7:30 important he's tall he appears to be something
7:37 special Gart berer was deemed to have
7:39 these qualities and was selected to be
7:47 West my particular Talent was that I
7:49 really understood people I could really
7:57 problems this gave women the feeling
7:59 that they were dealing with a very extra ordinary
8:17 man to learn their trade the men
8:20 selected as Romeos were sent to belig a
8:23 secret training camp outside
8:26 Berlin the syllabus was extensive
8:29 Marxist leninism Espionage the most
8:39 Nature Good Espionage work always rests
8:46 psychology I learned a lot about applied
8:49 psychology and psychological
8:51 manipulation I studied human behavior
8:54 very closely through various different
8:58 approaches such as Freudian theories
9:01 theories
9:03 the Romeos were being sent to the west
9:06 to be promiscuous to seduce and
9:09 deceive but the East German regime was
9:11 highly moralistic there was no mention of
9:12 of
9:15 sex intelligence Chiefs liked to pretend
9:18 women would be seduced by higher
9:22 motives we were all ideologically very
9:26 indoctrinated the political motive for
9:29 doing intelligence work was always uh uh
9:33 uh depicted as the strongest the most
9:38 reliable uh the use of human weaknesses
9:42 was in generally played down you didn't
9:45 want to be seen as working with sleazy
9:47 characters it was a contradiction the
9:58 with we were told that morality was all important
10:00 important
10:02 the wife was highly valued in East
10:05 German Society you should never deceive your
10:06 your
10:09 wife but these guys were told that they
10:16 opposite this was a conflict that was
10:25 discussed their training over most
10:28 Romeos were sent to Bon West Germany's capital
10:30 capital
10:32 it was the home of government Ministries
10:34 and foreign embassies the key targets
10:36 for the East
10:40 Germans B is a relatively small town
10:44 full of Ministries and
10:47 administration the professionals so the
10:49 politicians who worked there they
10:51 usually had their family lives but they
10:55 had a lot lots of secretary and we knew
10:57 that Bon was a lonely place these women
10:59 didn't have anything to do in the
11:02 evening and for a woman they are to find
11:05 a partner it's nearly impossible they
11:07 walk long hours they don't have a lot of
11:11 spare time and there are just not enough possible
11:13 possible
11:16 Partners it was not only a difficult
11:19 place to meet men it was just no place
11:22 at all to meet men the competition was
11:26 fierce I mean if there was one man Word
11:29 of Mouth you know before he even arrived
11:31 everybody oh there's somebody coming who
11:33 is not married because most of them were
11:36 married and and then there were just 20
11:47 person Gabrielle CLE worked as a
11:50 secretary at the American Embassy in Bon
11:51 in the mid
11:54 1970s she had hoped to meet a diplomat
11:56 to marry but was Finding life in the
11:59 capital as a single woman difficult she
12:01 you didn't get invited anywhere you
12:03 didn't you didn't fit in anywhere you
12:06 had to have this kind of husband or
12:10 fiance who had to have this
12:13 position Margaret herker had also moved
12:16 to B in search of a new life in the late
12:18 1950s she worked as a secretary to the
12:28 Germany I suppose I was looking for
12:30 Independence to escape from the
12:32 narrowness of my parents
12:41 us I particularly wanted to get away
12:43 from my mother who had always kept us very
12:48 close so it was against her will that I
12:59 secret they were both just the sort of
13:01 vulnerable women working in useful
13:03 places the hva was looking
13:07 for a woman who had been neglected by
13:11 life up to then you know she was in her
13:15 early 30s lonely normally not too
13:18 pretty and when they were too pretty
13:20 that was it was no good a little bit
13:22 ugly not too ugly because you know you
13:30 job the Romeos were like vultures
13:33 circling the skies above
13:41 easily the Romeos now planted themselves
13:43 in Bon's cafes and waited for
13:45 secretaries to
13:48 seduce Margaret herker and Gabrielle CLE
13:50 were about to meet the men who would
14:04 One Summer Afternoon Gabrielle cim a
14:07 secretary at the American Embassy in Bon
14:09 was waiting to meet a gentleman friend
14:16 rine when I was sitting there waiting
14:19 for this friend I saw this man coming
14:24 towards me and he was so tall and blonde
14:28 hair and fantastic blue eyes
14:38 I thought that a man like this would be
14:40 actually the answer to all of my inner
14:44 dreams and I looked at him and he came
14:47 closer and closer and then he talked to
14:50 me and I thought well if ever in my life
14:59 this and then uh he asked me out and he
15:02 said that we could go for dinner and he
15:05 wanted to spend the evening with [Music]
15:10 [Music]
15:13 me he ordered a lot of wine and he
15:16 talked to me and I just remembers the
15:18 feeling I had
15:27 [Music] him
15:30 him
15:32 the man who approached Gabrielle in the
15:33 cafe was a
15:36 Romeo his bosses in Berlin had
15:39 intricately planned this first meeting
15:41 they' been watching her for 2 years to
15:48 best the man she was supposed to be
15:51 meeting that day was also an hva agent
15:57 earlier he had intentionally not turned
15:59 up and sent Romeo agent Frank cell to
16:05 instead they studied the psychology of
16:08 the women exactly this was very
16:11 important for example she doesn't have a
16:13 husband what does she do in her spare
16:17 time that was researched in great
16:20 detail the Romeo would then consider how
16:23 to make his first approach he played out
16:25 the situation in advance in his head
16:27 which story to use
16:29 use
16:37 theater that day on the Rind the hva had
16:40 got it just
16:42 right it was not only that he was so
16:45 tremendously goodlook that he was so
16:49 intelligent also he reminded me of my
16:51 Father which I never had and this was
16:54 something I had always waited for and
16:58 every kind of inner dream which I didn't
17:00 wasn't even aware of that I had those
17:04 dreams he answered to those dreams and
17:12 ideas these weaknesses were all
17:15 registered loneliness was a big one like
17:18 they wanted a father figure so our man
17:21 arrives on the scene he has money he's
17:23 good-look and
17:26 Charming the secretary becomes obsessed
17:28 and she will do everything not to lose him
17:33 first encounters between a Romeo and a
17:36 potential Source were not always planned in
17:37 in
17:39 advance Romeos were always on the
17:42 lookout for secretaries to
17:45 seduce for Margaret herker it was a
17:47 chance meeting outside a telephone box
17:54 house he'd seen me from his flat it
17:57 overlooked the telephone box I used I'd
17:59 been waiting to call my parents but
18:00 hadn't been able to get through so I'd
18:03 been pacing up and down outside he'
18:05 heard my steps and had come down I'd
18:08 never seen him in my life before but
18:10 after a while we got chatting and we
18:12 ended up going for a walk along the rine
18:26 started the Romeo told Margaret his name
18:29 was France Becka and he claimed to be a
18:32 student she revealed she was a secretary
18:38 president when I told him where I work
18:40 he was unable to conceal the fact that
18:43 he was a bit nervous a little bit
18:46 excited and I suppose he thought that's
18:48 fantastic and it fitted in very nicely of
18:50 of
18:53 course hva Chiefs in Berlin were
18:55 immediately alerted that a very
18:57 important contact had been made nothing
18:59 less than a secretary Mar to the
19:05 Germany it was Now France Becker's job
19:13 source we always used the same method
19:15 create trust build the foundations for a
19:18 long relationship manipulate emotions
19:20 this was the simplest method rooted in
19:26 nature Margaret and Becca began an
19:27 intimate sexual relationship
19:34 he said he needed me because he was all
19:37 alone in the world I'm not sure whether
19:39 it was pity I felt but I did have the
19:42 sense of being somehow responsible for
19:45 him a kind of maternal feeling and when
19:47 he visited me at my
19:49 flat it seemed to me as if he was coming
19:52 home that he was coming back to where he belonged
19:59 house Becca spent three years developing
20:02 the relationship with no mention of
20:07 secrets he tapped into her loneliness
20:14 companionship well he was the sort of
20:22 important he was a wonderful listener he
20:24 really engaged with me he made me feel
20:27 as if I was someone special for most of
20:29 this women
20:31 it was probably a dream come true they
20:33 suddenly have a partner who's very
20:37 attentive who's very nice who avoids all
20:39 mistakes who wants to keep the
20:41 relationship stable and going and here
20:49 [Music]
20:53 partner for Gabrielle it was a whirlwind
20:56 romance her Romeo lover Frank Dell
20:58 claimed he worked abroad and could only
21:01 only see her every 4 to 6 weeks they met
21:04 for passionate weekends in hotels along
21:07 the river rine I would always drive
21:09 there with a tremendous amount of
21:11 longing you're just driving there you
21:13 were totally high as if you had taken
21:16 some tracks or something then you would
21:18 meet him and then you would know that
21:21 that this was the only life you would
21:24 get for all this time and you really had
21:27 to make some most of it
21:29 it [Music]
21:39 the way he moved and he just OED
21:44 sexuality and so I was sexually totally
21:47 dependent on him I never ever considered
21:55 man I thought that I just could not live
21:57 without it and this longing which he
22:00 built up because the lack of sexuality
22:03 in the interim periods and I always had
22:06 to wait for five weeks and he came up
22:08 with those idiotic mathematical
22:10 equations telling me that if he would go
22:13 to bed with me six or seven times during
22:15 this one
22:18 weekend that this would equate no this
22:21 is not funny this would equate to to
22:23 whatever during the weekend and this
22:26 would then come up if you add this all
22:34 Frank Dell sent the intimate details of
22:37 his relationship with Gabrielle back to
22:39 Berlin they were poured over by
22:42 intelligence Chiefs at hva headquarters
22:44 who could then plan the next stage in the
22:54 relationship sex played a role of course
22:56 it was reported whether sex was
22:59 important to the woman this kind of was
23:01 included in a dossier and the Romeo used
23:02 it to plan his
23:05 behavior the Romeo would report about
23:07 sex verbally to his controller but that
23:09 side of things was left pretty much to
23:12 the Romeo to manage as he saw fit but it
23:14 was discussed when it was relevant to the
23:18 operation Gabrielle may have fallen
23:21 passionately in love but for all Romeos
23:25 sex served a very specific
23:33 we called it the post coal Readiness to disclose
23:39 information what this man was the women
23:41 you were sleeping with were prepared to
23:45 reveal an enormous amount after
23:47 sex this will never happen during the
23:49 day when they're at their most rational
23:51 which is why you have to work on them in
24:07 with military Precision the hva Chiefs
24:09 in Berlin had made Margaret and
24:11 Gabrielle fall in love with their
24:13 Romeos they were now considered ready to
24:22 east 3 years into his relationship with
24:25 Margaret herker Romeo agent France Becka
24:26 felt she was ready to pass on
24:36 Palace we just chatted about this and
24:44 office he just seemed to have a very
24:50 all her entanglement was engineered very
24:53 carefully very slowly what she delivered
24:55 in the early days or reported on didn't
24:57 go beyond what any of us might tell a
24:58 good friend or
25:00 in casual
25:11 beginning after 2 years of receiving
25:13 this verbal information he felt ready to
25:15 ask her for
25:19 more secret documents from the
25:21 palace Margaret had now been with him
25:23 for 5 years and trusted him when he told
25:32 he never talked about secret Services of
25:35 course there was what he called The Firm
25:37 which had its headquarters in Zurich all
25:40 I knew was that it was a right-wing
25:42 organization when he asked me to give
25:44 him documents I didn't say of course
25:46 I'll do it I just said I'll see what I
25:49 can do if I happen to find anything I
26:00 Firm Margaret began to smuggle top
26:01 secret government documents from the president's
26:10 Palace what I took were just little
26:12 notes which I could slip very easily
26:14 into my
26:17 handbag or a thin carbon copy which I
26:27 [Music]
26:30 compartments in I had a good
26:32 relationship with my bosses but this was
26:34 a breach of trust no one would have
26:36 thought I was capable
26:40 of I asked myself how France managed to
26:48 point even though I asked myself this he
26:50 told me I was helping
27:03 West Germany was at the front line of
27:06 the cold war thousands of British and
27:08 American troops were stationed there in NATO
27:09 NATO
27:11 bases all top secret reports on
27:13 negotiations within NATO were sent to
27:16 the West German president this was the
27:18 information the East Germans wanted
27:23 Margaret herker gave it to them
27:26 in because of the situation at that time
27:28 the heightened tension between East and
27:31 West this information was extremely
27:34 sensitive it was rather like big brother
27:36 looking over your shoulder at all
27:49 Partners Gabrielle clean's job at the US
27:51 Embassy in Bon gave her access to
27:53 American Military
27:56 Secrets her Romeo also developed the
27:58 relationship to the point where would
28:01 trust him when he asked her for secret
28:04 documents he came up with a story he
28:08 said that he was working in Saudi Arabia
28:11 and in African countries and that his
28:13 home office was in Munich and that he
28:16 worked for a company which was uh
28:19 collecting information on different
28:23 levels also economic levels and
28:27 to some kind of like a so-called s tank
28:30 or data base which would be used to
28:35 support uh um Peace to nurture peace in the
28:42 word Gabrielle was obsessed with detel
28:44 and willing to believe
28:48 anything this sexual attraction with
28:53 nobody ever had had this and this
28:58 uh I think this made me close my eyes to
29:05 newses having smuggled the documents out
29:07 of the embassy she would photograph them
29:09 at home and give him the films whenever
29:12 she saw him I would have the films in
29:15 the pocket of my court and he would hack
29:18 me and and put his hand in the pocket of
29:19 my coat and take the films without ever
29:22 saying anything and then always looking
29:25 at me like this father image and say oh
29:28 yes you did very well child
29:30 Gabrielle's position at the US Embassy
29:33 made her recruitment by the hva a danger
29:36 to the West she was known to East German
29:39 intelligence by her code name
29:42 geart the source geart was one of the
29:44 most important East Germans ever had in
29:46 terms of the quantity of information and
29:48 the extent of information that was being
29:51 passed to East
29:53 Berlin she worked in the American
29:56 Embassy so had access to very important
29:58 information she worked in the very
30:00 office where armed supplies and Military
30:02 Maneuvers were coordinated between the
30:09 Americans Margaret was now regularly
30:12 delivering secret documents to Becca but
30:14 their relationship
30:17 changed she was hooked on him so he
30:18 didn't need to spend as much time with
30:22 her and insisted their Affair be kept a
30:25 secret I never really had an address I
30:27 never really had a telephone number
30:29 where I could call him him right up to
30:30 the end I
30:33 didn't he always had some excuse or
30:35 other why this had to be the case and
30:44 situation Becca gave regular reports to
30:47 his bosses back in the east on the state
30:52 relationship teams of psychologists
30:54 analyzed the reports and worked out how
30:56 the relationship should progress
30:59 progress
31:00 they wanted to keep their Source happy
31:09 costs the task really was to keep things
31:12 on the boil re-inject Vigor into the
31:13 relationship and we did this with interesting
31:14 interesting
31:18 conversation love an expensive
31:20 holiday some of these women couldn't
31:21 have afforded it on their own but the
31:25 hva footed the bill and it worked it
31:27 bought time the relationship could last
31:28 another year
31:30 if the relationship showed signs of
31:32 cooling it was always warmed up again to
31:34 motivate the woman and this was always
31:37 done according to a set
31:40 plan Becca took these photos of Margaret
31:47 together but he refused to be
31:49 photographed pictures of the back of his
31:51 head are all that Margaret has of their time
31:53 time
31:55 together even then she claimed she
31:59 noticed something strange about him
32:00 there was always something at the back
32:02 of it all which I couldn't really put my
32:05 finger on he seemed divided as if he had
32:12 this Margaret thought of leaving
32:15 him but Becca had been well trained in
32:22 her whenever I tried to end the
32:24 relationship he'd come along and talk
32:32 he'd always say that we needed one
32:34 another that we knew one another inside
32:37 out that we understood each
32:44 me I don't want to talk badly about
32:46 women but
32:48 women they accept quite a
32:52 bit if they are really in Need for for some
32:53 some
32:56 relationships women are forgiving in
33:00 general if you don't over do it and you
33:01 can play with the woman as long as you
33:04 want at the end you open your shirt and
33:07 shoot me oh she will say no it's not
33:17 true Long stretches apart
33:20 secrecy for Gabrielle too life as the
33:23 lover of a Romeo was never
33:27 easy I never really lived unless it was
33:32 through him so so this was a horrible
33:34 problem in all those years and it it got
33:44 worse you would think oh well I she
33:46 didn't see him for five weeks and she
33:48 had the life in those interval periods
33:51 but I didn't I didn't have any life I
33:53 didn't go out I didn't do anything I
33:56 didn't do anything what I wanted
33:59 wanted
34:01 Berlin couldn't risk Gabrielle becoming
34:04 too unhappy they couldn't afford to lose
34:06 such a valuable
34:08 Source she had to believe there was a
34:10 future with her
34:13 Romeo detel kept her by promising what
34:16 she Most Wanted in the world we were in
34:20 dorf and walking along and he lifted me
34:22 up in front of a window so we could both
34:25 look into our Reflections and he said oh
34:28 we was such a beautiful couple
34:31 and we will get married next spring of
34:35 course I was ecstatic I was dancing with
34:38 joy I thought now I would finally have for
34:39 for [Music]
34:47 Life 6 months later ditel summoned
34:53 Bru I because I thought when we were
34:56 going to get married I was ecstatic with
34:58 joy and I thought that he would tell me
35:01 you know something about the wedding
35:03 plans but Romeos were not supposed to
35:04 marry their
35:07 Source they lived in West Germany under
35:09 a false identity and marriage would
35:11 involve too many
35:14 checks so he made his
35:16 excuses the wedding was
35:19 off I thought that maybe this
35:22 relationship would now break up you know
35:25 because he had hurt me really not only
35:34 but the relationship did not break up
35:36 the trips to the Ry and Gabrielle's
35:40 spying continued year after year secret
35:43 details of Western missile systems and
35:46 NATO exercises were all passed
35:48 on it was the only way Gabrielle could
35:52 keep detel he always plat his fantastic
35:54 gole he said of course if you don't
35:56 bring any more of those documents my
35:59 love for you will certainly not die but
36:02 I don't know how I could keep on seeing
36:04 you of course if he would have said if
36:05 you don't give me any more documents
36:06 bloody well I don't come to see you
36:09 anymore then even I would have walked
36:12 but he always said yes I will do my the
36:14 most I can but I don't know how I can do
36:17 it and then always calculating and
36:19 everything you know and that's how he
36:21 got me to do it
36:24 it
36:27 so the man in Berlin had shaped two excellent
36:29 excellent
36:31 sources but their spying for the East
36:33 was about to come to an
36:36 end the West German secret service the
36:45 women by 1985 Margaret herker had been
36:50 with her Romeo lover France Becka for 17
36:53 years for 14 of those she had been
36:56 passing on secrets from the president's Palace
36:58 Palace
37:00 but Becca had been identified as an
37:02 agent by the West German secret service
37:05 the BN while under surveillance they
37:07 noticed he saw a lot of
37:09 Margaret and then of course the alarm
37:12 Bell started ringing who is this is it
37:14 his mother is it his girlfriend is it
37:16 his sister and then we discovered that M
37:18 herker worked in the president's office
37:20 and then of course the alarm Bells
37:29 ring Margaret's flat in Bon was now put under
37:34 surveillance after several months the
37:37 West Germans had the evidence they
37:40 needed it was time to tell her boss
37:47 viter he was very
37:49 skeptical suddenly the head of Counter
37:52 Intelligence comes along and says Mr
37:54 President one of your closest AIDS is an
37:56 agent and of course you have to have
37:58 some very strong evidence to back that
38:00 up and I remember that President Von
38:06 dubious my impression at the time was
38:08 that he was more willing to Believe Miss
38:16 me but the evidence was
38:18 overwhelming Margaret was picked up from
38:21 her flat and charged with
38:23 Espionage she insisted her lover had
38:26 worked for a peace Institute in Switzerland
38:28 Switzerland
38:30 I really believed even then that it was
38:36 Switzerland but the police didn't
38:43 said in the whole world there is no
38:45 Swiss organization whatever its
38:47 political color which would have been
38:49 interested in the type of material that
38:55 over and her claim that she didn't know
38:57 what she was involved in well this this
38:59 is something all these people do to
39:11 self-esteem she was not naive she might
39:12 have been clinging to the idea of doing
39:15 something good or working for peace but
39:17 the fact that she clung to something
39:19 like this is a sign that deep down she
39:31 for the first time Margaret discovered
39:34 that the man she had loved for 17 years
39:45 East I only discovered later that he was
39:53 here that was a terrible Revelation for [Music]
39:55 [Music]
39:58 me I mean the whole thing was bad enough
40:00 but the fact that he'd always gone on
40:03 about how he was all alone in the world without
40:19 think while France Becka escaped to the
40:22 east Margaret was sentenced to 8 years
40:25 in prison for Espionage of which she served
40:26 served four
40:33 well of course it was absolutely awful I
40:34 needed all the strength I had just to
40:37 survive it and if you ask me how I
40:49 know for Gabrielle CLE the end came in
40:52 1991 the Cold War and her affair with
40:55 her Romeo lover Frank Dell were now
40:58 over the hva had been
41:01 disbanded documents uncovered from their
41:03 files revealed that Gabrielle had been
41:06 passing secrets to the east from 1977
41:09 until the collapse of Communism in
41:13 1989 she had handed over 1500 documents
41:17 more than any other source in her
41:20 position but at her trial all she could
41:22 think of was detail they were constantly
41:25 talking about Espionage and I didn't
41:28 care about that I always said but
41:31 did you know him what was he like and
41:35 did he love me I I'm sorry I always
41:37 wanted to know did he did he have some
41:42 feelings for me or was it all just a lie
41:49 know if something like that happens to
41:52 you you tend to question
41:55 yourself what is true and what is not
41:58 true and what part is who and what part
42:01 is imagined and what part is a story and
42:03 what part is a fiction and you go
42:06 absolutely insane because you just feel
42:09 that you are disintegrating Bit by Bit
42:15 Bit memories were false everything you
42:19 lived for was kind of taken away so you
42:26 [Music] identity
42:28 identity
42:32 we were people and they destroyed us on
42:34 in every
42:37 level as the Cold War was now over
42:44 sentence The Men Who Run the operation
42:47 from Berlin were not even put on trial
42:49 as they were deemed to have been doing their
42:49 their
42:52 job I think it's so devastating that
42:56 some stupid I'm sorry who
42:58 I don't know from a hole in the ground
43:01 sit in some stupid office in East
43:05 Germany picking people women out you
43:11 know like like like animals for testing
43:13 and saying okay we are going to destroy her
43:20 life today Margaret herker lives alone
43:22 in her parents' old
43:25 house after her release from prison she
43:27 had nowhere to go but the place she had
43:29 had left 30 years earlier in search of
43:31 an exciting life in
43:34 Bon she has not seen France Becker since her
43:35 her
43:45 ill it seems to me that he now has to
43:47 live with himself and that must be hard
43:49 enough but I think I've worked through a
43:52 lot of this this is his issue
43:56 now I don't have any feelings of hatred
44:10 life it did have a purpose and a meaning
44:13 for me so in that respect these were not Wasted
44:33 Gabrielle CLE now lives alone in Holland
44:45 dogs there is little Sympathy for the
44:47 plight of Gabrielle and Margaret from
44:49 the men who benefited from the secrets they
44:57 gave we never abused women we saw it as
45:00 a legitimate method a method which was
45:03 justified by the very real threat posed
45:04 by the Cold
45:07 War if we're talking about the brutality
45:10 of secret Services if you show me this
45:12 broken heart well then I can show you
45:14 much much
45:17 worse look back through history and a
45:28 nothing is whichever way you look at it
45:31 Espionage is a dirty business but it's
45:33 necessary there is always a point where
45:34 you want to know more from someone than
45:36 he's prepared to reveal and to get this
45:38 information you use all the means at
45:40 your disposal and because the human
45:43 being is always the weakest link in the
45:46 chain you use this weakness to your own
45:54 C if it hadn't been the Romeo for this
45:57 poor woman that would be 10 years of a
46:00 happy life may be missing I don't think
46:02 there was a too big human CA to it
46:06 because it it goes into the in a general
46:09 mixture of human faith and and human
46:11 happiness and
46:13 unhappiness some of them are probably
46:25 [Music] Romeos
46:31 [Music]
46:34 Gabrielle's Romeo lover died several years
46:35 years
46:37 ago he may have deceived her to keep her
46:46 go if he would walk into my
46:50 life like I remember
46:54 him I'm terribly afraid that I would
46:57 fall in love with him again
47:02 and because of I'm now um alone again totally
47:08 alone very big part of me would say yes
47:12 that I loved you and you felt a void in
47:15 me which nobody ever could or would or
47:19 will again and why don't we just move on
47:25 from there oh God and live for once together
47:27 together gold
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