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Dr Joe Dispenza: Stop Letting Your Past Control You! How To Rewire Your Mind & Manifest REAL CHANGE | Lewis Howes | YouTubeToText
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True personal transformation and the creation of a desired reality stem from fundamentally changing one's internal state—thoughts, feelings, and beliefs—rather than waiting for external circumstances to change. This involves becoming conscious of subconscious programming and actively cultivating new emotional and mental patterns.
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Many people are waiting for something in
their life to change to take away the
lack or the separation of not having the
life that they want. You work hard and
you start accumulating abundance or
wealth and you start thinking, "Okay, I
want the boat." When you get the boat,
the experience produces an emotion that
takes away the lack of not having it.
But if you're creating reality and it's
not working, then many people will spend
their entire life living in lack.
>> Dr. Joe Despensz,
>> bestselling author. His expertise is the
intersection of the fields of
neuroscience, epigenetics and quantum physics.
physics.
>> Dr. Jodispanza,
>> nothing changes in our life until we
change. If you want to become abundant,
study abundant people. What are the
qualities and characteristics that you
would have to embody to become that
abundant person and get busy doing that.
You got to be really badass good at
something. You got to know your message.
You got to know what you're doing. Then
the criticism becomes actually an
exchange of information. I think we're
living in a crazy time where it's very
easy to take shots at people. But I
think if you're really an expert on what
you do, it's hard to take you down.
>> Yeah. Do you think we need to forgive in
order to heal then?
>> Yes, I do. And forgiveness is taking
your attention off that person or
problem. The only way you do that is
overcome the emotion. We have people
that have to lower the volume of that
emotion and keep taking their attention
off that problem. The body is an
unbridled horse. Sooner or later, the
body is going to acquies. When it does,
there's a liberation of energy. the
heart opens up and the person feels
completely different.
>> Is there something that you think cannot
be manifested?
>> Well, I mean, I'm
I'm excited that you're back on and I
want to dive into the first question
because I think a lot of people are
feeling stuck in their lives. They're
feeling stuck in different areas of
their lives. So, what do you think is
the biggest thing first off that is
blocking people from experiencing
healing in their life to create more peace?
peace?
>> Yeah. Well, unfortunately, you have to
do the work. Um, you have to light a
match in a dark place. Um, if 95% of who
we are by the time we're in the middle
of our life, a set of hardwired
attitudes, beliefs, and perceptions,
automatic habits, and unconscious
behaviors, and immediate emotional
responses, 95% is programmed into our
biology. It's not enough to think
positively because you can think
positively with the 5% of your conscious
mind, but we're programmed
subconsciously to feel negative. Right?
So mind and body are in opposition. And
so the work is, you know, if your
personality creates your personal
reality and then your personality is
made up of how you think, how you act,
and how you feel, then the first step to
change, to truly change is kind of uh
uncluttering ourselves. from those
programs. And we've discovered based on
the research is the best way to do that
is to become conscious of those
unconscious thoughts. So conscious of
those unconscious thoughts that we don't
go unconscious to them in our waking
day. You know, I can't. It's too hard.
I'll never make it. I'm a failure. You
know, it's someone else's fault.
And then, you know, a habit is when
you've done something so many times that
the body now knows how to do it better
than the conscious mind. body's
programmed to basically behave as if
it's in the past. Right? So, think about
any habit that you've ever broken. The
first thing that happens is you feel
uncomfortable. The body's craving. You
know, it's it's familiar known patterns
and and so so you have to become
conscious and then you many times when
we're breaking a habit, you you forget
and you go unconscious. So the
fundamental question is how many times
do you have to forget until you stop
forgetting and start remembering.
>> How many times is that?
>> I don't know. It just depends on the
person. That's the moment of change.
>> And then emotions of course are chemical
residue. They're records from the past.
And the stronger the emotions we feel
from some past event, the more we pay
attention to it. And the arousal from
some you stressful event causes the
brain to freeze a frame and take a
snapshot. And that's a long-term memory,
right? So when the person thinks about
the event, they're producing the same
chemistry in their brain and body as if
the event was occurring. And it just
takes a thought and a feeling, an image
and an emotion, a stimulus and response,
and you can condition your body to
subconsciously become the mind of that
emotion. Now the body's literally in the
past. So it takes an enormous amount of energy,
energy,
an enormous amount of awareness to catch
yourself from going unconscious. And the
only way you become conscious, the only
way you get good at changing your
conscious conscience or your your
consciousness is to catch yourself going
unconscious. And sooner or later, if you
get really good at it, you begin to
disentangle from the program and you
begin to objectify your subjective self.
And there's dissonance that goes on in
the brain and body that's very
uncomfortable. It seems really hard. It
seems like we can't see. There's an end.
There's circuitry that's no longer
firing and wiring. There's no longer the
same chemicals that are produced. You're
no longer signaling the same genes or
the same hormones. The body's in in
flux, you know, it's in dissonance. It's
in it's out of order. And most people
return back to the familiar, right? And
they say, "Oh, this feels right to me."
Well, that feels familiar, right? So,
so, so if a person is stuck in their
life, the first step to change is
examining your thoughts, paying
attention to how you speak and how you
act and look at these emotions that keep
you connected to the past and finally decide,
decide,
does this emotion belong in my future?
>> And I think many people try to create a
new personal reality as the same
personality and it doesn't work. We
literally have to become someone else.
And that's it's fundamental. We already
know this. We already know this. And so
many people don't want to go through the
work of taking a look at themselves
because it's it's tedious. It's easier
to turn on the television or scroll
through your social media or make a
phone call or get distracted, right? Uh
but we discovered that in our 7-day
weekl long retreats,
if you give people something to do, if
they understand the the philosophy, the
theory, they understand the knowledge
base of what they're doing and you give
them something to do and and so they can
begin to change. Right around the second
day, people start, you know, breaking
through. They start seeing a different
landscape. They're no longer tormenting
their body with the same thoughts that
produce the same emotions. They're no
longer complaining and blaming and
making excuses and and they're thinking
differently because they're challenged
to learn a lot of information. They're
challenged to learn information and
knowledge. And that causes people to
think differently. And then if you start
to think differently because you learn
new information, you begin to make
different choices. And if you make
different choices, you can begin to do
different things and behave in different
ways and you can create new experiences
and you can feel new emotions. And
that's exactly what we discovered that
changes a person's biology.
The second point from that question is
many people are waiting for something
out there in their life to change to
take away the lack or the separation of
not having the life that they want. I
mean, think about it. But our senses
plug us into three-dimensional reality.
And the way that we create is we create
based on lack. You see the sports car,
you see the wardrobe, you see the scarf,
you see the boat, whatever it is that a
person wants. The lack of not having
that particular thing causes the brain
to naturally dream about having it.
The challenge is is that the only way in
for most people to get that dream to
actually become actualized in
three-dimensional reality, you got to do something.
something.
>> You got to do something because there's
a the distance between the thought of
what you want and the experience of
having it is called time. And time is
separation. Right? So, we've been
hypnotized and conditioned
to believe that when the experience
happens in our life, well, think about
it. You you you work hard, you save
money, you make sacrifices,
you you know, you put in your extra
time, you know, you work and you start
accumulating uh success or abundance or
wealth and you start thinking, okay, I
want I want the boat, right? and then
you spend a year saving up all your
money to get the boat. When you get the
boat, the experience produces an emotion
that takes away the lack of not having
it. But if you're creating reality and
it's not working, then many people will
spend their entire life living in lack
or separation. And we cannot attract
anything in our life that we feel
separate from. It's impossible.
>> So say it one more time. We cannot
attract anything we want in our lives
that we feel separate from.
>> Exactly. What if we do attract something
from lack when we have it? How will it
make us feel?
>> Well, if if if you work hard and you put
in your time and you know, matter to
matter, you're you know, getting your
behaviors to match your intentions and
your actions equal to your thoughts,
you're getting your mind and body
working together. You're going to run
into your goal. You're going to run into
your experience. The experience of your
abundance, your experience of your thing
that you want takes away the lack of not
having it, right? But some people are
are creating, but they're spending their
whole life in lack waiting for their
world to change to feel abundant, right?
And and we discovered that that's kind
of the opposite of the way people
actually get what they want, when they
start holding a very clear vision of
their future. And we call that
intention. And you need a coherent brain
to do that. And we work diligently to
get people's brains tuned up to order.
The more coherent the brain, the more
high functioning it is, the the greater
the signal.
And it turns out that you have to feel
the emotion of the future before it
happens because the emotion is the
energy that's going to drive your body
to that end to have the experience. And
at the same time, if you're truly
practicing feeling the emotion of your
future, you won't be in lack. In fact,
you you'll feel if you feel like your
future has already happened,
>> you'll never look for it. You only look
for it when you feel separate from it.
So, it's kind of a it's a kind of an
analogy of like, you know, cause and
effect. You know, waiting for your
healing to feel gratitude, waiting for
your abundance to feel worthy or
successful, you know, waiting for your
relationship to feel love. You know, the
old model of reality of cause and
effect. The new model of reality is
causing an effect.
>> Causing and effect.
>> Yeah. The moment you feel gratitude,
your healing begins. >> Wow.
>> Wow.
>> The moment you're empowered and you're
worthy, you're stepping or generating
abundance, you're stepping towards your
success. Now, the moment you're in love
with yourself and love with life and you
see beauty in all things, it's natural
that you'll you'll attract an equal. So,
that's causing an effect, right? And so, um,
um,
all you need is a clear intention and an
elevated emotion. Mhm.
>> And when you combine that clear
intention and elevated emotion, just
like when a person is remembering the
past and feeling the emotion, if you
start holding the intention and you feel
the emotion, the stronger the emotion
you feel, the more you remember the
vision and you can begin to remember
your future. Why is that important?
Because biologically, if you do it well,
your brain will look like it's already
happened. And if you do it really well,
genetically, your body will begin to
change to look like it's already
happened. In other words, our data shows
that in 7 days at a weeklong event when
people really get in the creative
process, they upregulate thousands of
genes and metabolites to suggest that
they're living in a whole new life, a
whole new environment. The body's so
objective, it doesn't know the
difference between a real life
experience that creates the emotion and
the emotion that we can create by
thought alone. To the body, it's exactly
the same. So, the body begins to believe
it's living in that future. And of
course, there's the thought and the
feeling. There's the image and the
emotion. There's a stimulus and
response. We can condition the body
emotionally to begin to believe it's
living in the future. And if the
environment signals the gene, and it does,
does,
>> the end product of an experience in the
environment is in motion. You could
actually regulate genes, upregulate
genes ahead of the environment. That's
exactly what we discovered. And people's
bodies and brains change enough that it
looks like the event has already
happened. Now, this is where the fun
part starts. Because if there's physical
evidence in your brain and body that it
has already happened, time to relax.
This is when the synchronicities, this
is when the opportunities, this is when
the coincidences, all of a sudden you no
longer have to go anywhere and do
anything to get it. Somehow there's an
attraction. You know, they're coming to
you. They're coming without having to do
anything. And so it's just a reframing
of our understanding of how to create.
You can get really good at creating a
lot of things matter to matter. You can,
you know, study, you can you can, you
know, you can learn from your mistakes.
You can, you know, get you can get uh
consulting. You can do all these things
and you and you can get really good at
doing it. But there's another way. There
is another way. And um so to answer the
question about being stuck, many people
are living their whole entire life, not
consciously. They're just subconsciously
waiting for their wealth to happen so
they could feel abundant, waiting for
their new relationship to feel love. You
know that that old model of reality. And
what I'm hearing you say is that your
personality creates your personal
reality. And your personality is based
on how we think, act, and feel. And so
if we're living in a personality state
currently that is creating the results
of feeling separate or lacked from
abundance, a better relationship, more
money, better health, then we must learn
to shift the personality to create a new
reality for ourselves. It's exactly the
truth. In other words, in order for you
to create a new personal reality, you
have to change your personality. In
other words, nothing changes in our life
until we change. Now look, it's really
simple. Just look look just make it
really simple. Let's just say somebody
wants to have have a goal to make a
certain amount of money. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Uh or or they want to get in shape,
right? And here's the personality who's
on the couch,
>> who's, you know, eating Fritos. Yeah.
And drinking a beer between, you know,
laying around, you know, not do not not
motivated at all. And the person wants
to get healthy or the person wants to
become abundant. There's got to be a lot
of things that have to change in order
for you to be the personality of
abundance because it isn't it isn't
abundance. It's who you become.
>> It's who you become in the process.
>> It's almost like this person is out of
alignment from the goal, the vision, the
dream that they want to have. They have
to be in more alignment of the person
that can create that and harmonize with
it is what I'm going to hear you say.
>> And and it's it's let's demystify it. If
you want to become abundant, study
abundant people. Get get as much
knowledge and resources, enough
connections in your brain so you have a
you have a storehouse of information for
you can dream what it is to be abundant.
Because if you study abundant people,
they made a lot of mistakes. They got
people betrayed them. They people got
stole from them. Uh they they lost
everything. They you know they had a
they had a journey and the difference is
they just went one more time. They just
they just didn't see failure. They they
just kept going. So what are the
qualities and characteristics
that you would have to embody
>> to become that abundant person and get
get busy doing that? Get busy doing that
in terms of change and use it as an
experiment. Like if I change, will my
life change? Right? If I give up lack,
if I give up fear, yeah, it sounds easy
theoretically. You're going to have to
put your time in. You're going to have
to work inwardly. You're going to have
to do some surveillance on your own
thoughts and and you know how you act
and how you feel. And you got to get
really good so good at doing it with
your eyes closed. You got to do it with
your eyes open. It means you got you
can't default in your life, right?
>> Yeah. When life happens and there's
distractions and people in your face and
people cutting off
>> one emotional response and you
seamlessly return back to the old
person, it's the worst. But but that's
why we have another day. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Is a new day like okay, how did I do in
one day, one lifetime? Like how did I
do? I sucked. Okay, God's not up there
with a laptop keeping track, you know,
like you got another shot at it the next
day. So, can you learn from the last day
and say, "When did I fall from grace? I
reacted to that person or circumstance
with the same emotion that emotion
caused me to behave as if I was in my
past and believe in my past."
>> And that's when you no longer see the
future because the emotion that you're
feeling is keeping you connected to the
past. You only believe in your future
when you feel the emotion of your future.
future.
>> So enthusiasm and theos filled with God,
inspiration inspire the movement of
energy, right? The energy that it takes,
the the the looking forward to the
optimism. Um that is what drives us to
our dreams. And you just got to be able
to sustain that state of being
independent of anyone or anything in
your life. And if you can get ready
because that's when your life changes.
You're you're literally thinking
differently, you're acting differently,
and you're feeling differently. That's a
new personality, and that means a new
personal reality. That's the experiment.
>> It's the experiment to try it out. So,
it's just uncovering that 95%. You can
say, "I'm healthy. I'm healthy. I'm
wealthy. I'm wealthy." But the 5% of
your conscious mind and your body say,
"No, you're not, dude. You're miserable.
You're unhappy. You're, you know, you're
suffering." The thought never makes it
past the brain stem to the body. get the
body in the right emotional state
>> and then we can only accept, believe,
and surrender to the thoughts that are
equal to the emotional state of the body.
body.
>> I'm curious about you've shared so much
wisdom at your weeklong retreats, the
interviews we've done, many interviews
you've done online.
I'm curious personally, is there
something in the last decade where you
shifted your personality so much that
everything started to accelerate upward
for you with your health, your business,
your relationships? Was there something
that you changed personally, Dr. Joe,
that you created the new personal
reality, even though you'd been studying
this for a long time, but you somehow
reflected on what you were doing,
whether something was working or not,
that you shifted and boom, it unlocked
something new for you. Well, of course.
I mean, uh, what I do takes an enormous
amount of sacrifice. You know, I'm on
the road over seven months out of the
year. We're running week-long events
just about once a month. We're doing
advanced follow-ups and we have research
and we have, you know, we have
nonprofits and we have Navy Seals and
special ops and indigenous tribes and,
you know, we're we're really excited
about ch making cultural change. Um, I
think one of the key moments for me,
Lewis, was uh when I was writing my last
book, you know, when you when you write
a book, you know this, uh, if you're
writing a scientific book, um, you're
always thinking about the one person
that's going to that judge you or to
take a shot at you. And I just remember
thinking when I wrote the book and then
I was thinking about writing the the
forward and I was like my god, you know,
I really don't care what people think
anymore. Like I I you know, the reason I
can say that is because I know with
certainty that I'm contributing to
people's lives. I know that. I've seen
the stage testimonials that are
unbelievable. I've seen the data in
science, the scientific discoveries that
we're making, what we're publishing. I
mean, we are greater than we think. And
I know that because the data is greater
than we think. And we're studying
people. We're studying our community.
We're not studying Buddhist monks or or
we're not studying nuns with 40 years of
devotion, you know, in a monastery.
We're we're studying human beings just
like you and me. And so when I realized,
my god, like I really don't care what
people think because I know on a deep
level that I'm making a difference in
people's lives. And when the science
started coming out, I was just like, "Oh
my god, there's
>> this is no longer pseudocience. We have
the the largest database in the world on
meditation. We have so much information.
We measure everything. brains, EEGs,
fMRIs, we measure heart, you know,
coherence, we measure HRV, we measure
blood, we measure urine, we measure
tears, we measure microbiome, we measure
saliva, we measure breath, we measure
breast milk, anything you can imagine,
we measure. We measure the energy of the
room and we have never been disappointed
with the outcomes. It's always greater
than we think. So, when I kind of
thought about it and I thought, well, I
really don't I really don't care
anymore. I know that um I'm making a
difference. Those people are probably
not going to like me anyway, so let them
judge me, right? But I know that if this
resonates with people to give them a
formula for change and understand that
when I change, my life changes. And I've
I've interviewed enough people that have
had remarkable remissions from from all
kinds of chronic health conditions that
have blown my mind. And they were not
doing their meditations to heal.
They were doing their meditations to
change. And they understood that when I
change, I heal. When I open my heart, my
body is so objective. It doesn't know
the difference between a real life
experience that's creating this love and
the love that I'm creating on my own. My
body's believing it's living in a
nurturing environment. Okay? If I have
the intention when I feel this emotion
to signal genes, our data shows 100% of
the people 100% of the people that were
in that state were able to literally by
intention upregulate genes. So I have a
lot of hope in in human potential and a
turning point for me was when I realized
that on some level I really don't care.
I'm interested in the people that are
are open and really want to experiment
because I think this is a time in
history where it's not enough to know.
It's a time in history to know how.
>> I'm so glad you shared that because
you've been in this work for a long
time. you know, you've been work, you
know, in the the medical space and the
science space and the meditation space
and the spirituality space. You've been
blending these worlds for decades now,
but a lot of people, I guess, getting
started in their career or earlier in
their career, it's hard for them to not
care about the critics or what people
think. What advice would you give to
someone in their 20s who struggles with
criticism or struggles with what people
putting something out there they really
care about and getting judged for that?
How would you coach them up on that?
>> Um, I I never I I think one of the key
things is to never take criticism
personally. Sometimes feedback that you
get that's critical is good for you
because you know you know this you take
a look at yourself on camera and you're
like, "Oh, I'm going to cinch that in a
little bit." It's, you know, criticism
causes us to become self-aware, right?
It gets abusive when you attack the
character of the person. And you should
never take that personally. Like people,
I don't really I don't care. Like I
really don't know what people say. I
really don't care. The other thing is
you got to be really badass good at
something. You can't you can't you can't
be mediocre. You got to put your time
in. Again, you got to be an expert. You
got to know your message. You got to
know what you're doing. You got to know
that you know like you got to be at that
level of expertise. You got to be that
competent that you're immersed in
whatever field that you're in and you're
current with it all. Then then the then
the the criticism becomes actually an
exchange of information and and you can
disagree and have a great conversation. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> And and I think that when you when you
assault somebody's character, it's a
distraction, right? So
>> I would never take it personally at this
point. I really don't care. Um,
especially if you're missiondriven and
you're and you got a vision and that's
where you're going. Use the criticism as
a healthy way to check in and say, "Is
that true for me?"
>> Okay, he's got a point or she's got a
point. Okay, I I get that. I'm going I'm
going to change this, but
>> this part I know to be true. And I do
that all the time. Like people say, "You
should do this." No, no. Nobody I know
where we're going. Like I have to make
those decisions. So I think it's
healthy. I think we're living in a
little bit of a crazy time where it's
very easy to take shots at people. Um,
but I think I think if you're really an
expert on what you what you do, it's
hard to, you know, it's hard to take you down.
down. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> We mentioned about, you know, people
trying to attract more money or a
healthy relationship. And it seems like
a lot of people are struggling in love
and relationships, bouncing around from
relationship to relationship or just
heartbroken when it doesn't work out. Do
you feel like you have to be fully
healed in order to receive love in a new relationship?
relationship?
>> Or if you're brokenhearted and broken,
you can still receive love.
>> Um, I think love heals uh in a lot of in
a lot of ways, but it's got to be really
unconditional love. Uh, it really has to
be love that has a that transcends
conditions. You know, I love you
because, but it's just kind of a state.
So um practicing
practicing
feeling love is one of the things that
we work on as a community. Feeling
frustration, feeling, you know,
impatience, uh feeling resentment. Uh it
really it really changes the way the
heart functions. It
>> when you're living in that state, I'm
frustrated. I'm impatient.
>> When I'm resentful, when I'm judgmental,
>> what happens to the brain and heart when
you're living in those lower energetic states?
states?
>> Yeah. So, so for sure when you're living
by those emotions, the heart basically
is starting to become aroused. It's
getting a rush of chemistry, but you're
not running, you're not fighting, and
you're not hiding, but it's pumping. So,
it's pumping against the closed system,
and it causes the heart to kind of get
strained and beat out of order. When the
heart is incoherent like that, the waves
that are created that are incoherent
cancel each other out. The energy of the
heart goes down and you trust less. uh
you're less inspired uh you're less
affectionate you're less kind you're
less caring uh because the heart has a
different consciousness right so
than the other hormonal centers of the
body so when we do our work we start
many of the meditations with opening our
hearts because the heart is the creative
center and when energy makes it to the
heart we've seen this over and over
again uh once there's enough energy in
the heart we've seen it like it you put
your attention on it and you start to
relax into it, there's a very low
frequency that builds up in the heart.
That's the energy that the heart uses to
beat. So, you're giving it life and and
we know that well uh that if you you can
get really good at that. If you slow
your breathing down, you slow your brain
waves down and you get out of survival
and you start to see in more pictures
and images, you're uh you're kind of in
a relaxed state. But when you're
starting to relax into the heart, uh the
heart, we've se we've measured this
enough times does two things. It sends a
wave of energy like grabbing a big sheet
and going like this. It just sends a
wave of energy to the brain and it tells
the brain to get creative.
>> Dream, the heart is uh telling you fall
in love with your future. Pick a new
possibility that you would love to experience
experience
>> and the brain goes into that super
creative state. So the forebrain is the
creative center. The heart is the
creative center. It's the union of
opposites of polarity of duality is
where wholeness is begins.
So the heart informs the brain to become
creative. But the other side of that to
answer your question, we we see this
over and over again especially when we
work with um veterans with PTSD. The
heart resets the baseline for a past
trauma in the brain. The heart tells the
brain it's over. Like the past is over
and the person has a a new view of their
past and they have a new view of their future.
future.
>> Interesting. So, so what I'm hearing you
say is until we are able to heal our
heart, we'll always stay stuck in a past
that holds us back.
>> Yeah. Well, look, I mean it's not easy.
I mean when we work with the youth in
our community they the same question is
always like how do I stay in my heart
like this is an ongoing thing. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> This is something that's going to take a
little practice.
>> So you have to agree that when you feel
resentment when you feel impatience when
you feel frustration it's a very
different chemistry than when you feel
love. More than 70% of the time people
are living by those emotions that are
derived from the hormones of stress.
to to dial down the survival systems
>> in the body and start teaching the body
emotionally how it could feel goes
against all the programming we've had
about living in survival. Why would you
open your heart in the jungle?
>> You would be you would be eaten. You
would be prey. You would be vulnerable.
Right? So people get injured. They get
bruised and they'll say, "I'm this is
not a conscious process by the way. I'll
I'll never love like that again. and
I'll never open up like that again. The
experience of the past that ruined my
life and ruined this person ruined my
relation, you know, my my world uh and
other relationships
that will never heal
until the person finds love. Because
when you feel love and you start
releasing different chemicals like
oxytocin and our data shows that some
people we study their oxytocin levels
are off the chart. It's not a little
love, it's a lot of love. We see that
some people's amplitudes of heart
coherence are three times higher than
other people. It's like there's a
there's there's a big resonance going on
on the heart. That's a lot of energy
going to the brain. And so when we're
resentful, when we're judgmental, when
we're impatient, the brain is very
incoherent as well. And the wave of
energy from the heart to the brain
causes the brain to get organized,
causes it to get coherent, right? And so
so it's an art and a practice. So then
people who truly have this moment where
they start wanting to feel this emotion
instead of the past, it's impossible
for them to hold a grudge. It's they're
feeling so good. They're like, "Listen,
you're okay. Let it go." Yeah. Yeah.
It's not like, "I'm going to forgive you
now. Remember, I'm forgiving you." Like,
it's not like that.
>> It's more like it's all good. Like I
don't belong to the past anymore. and
they see their past in terms of a a
level of consciousness
>> that's instrumental for them to gain
wisdom. And the memory without the
emotional charge is called wisdom. And
that's when you belong to the future
instead of the past.
>> You think we need to forgive in order to
heal then?
>> Yes. Yes, I do. And forgiveness is
taking your attention off that person or
problem. The only way you do that is
overcome the emotion. Because the
stronger the emotion you have to some
person or some past event, the more you
pay attention to it. Where you place
your attention is where you place your
energy. So you're giving your power
away, your life force to that person or
that problem. Lower the volume to that
emotion. And I don't care if it takes a
whole day.
We have people that have to lower the
volume of that emotion. They keep
lowering the volume that emotion. They
keep taking their attention off that
person or problem. The body is an
unbridled horse, you know, just
insisting on wanting to be aroused. the
person instead of getting up and
quitting or grabbing their cell phone or
laying down or whatever,
they're in the fire. They've lit they've
lit the match in the dark place and now
they're the game is on. And if they keep
lowering the volume to that emotion,
keep taking their attention off that
person. Every time they lower the volume
to that emotion, they're telling the
body it's no longer the mind. They're
telling it, "I am the mind."
>> And sooner or later, the animal, the
body is going to acquies. It's going to
surrender. And when it does, there's a
liberation of energy. The the heart
opens up and the person feels completely
different. Now, that's when
when that occurs, they see their they
see their past. And some of them say, "I
I don't want to change one thing in my
past. It's perfect. I would have never
gotten to this moment unless I've been
through all of this." And we've had
people, you know, you can't say uh you
you know, you've had a, you know, a
horrible past any longer because we have
people that have been raped and abused
every day of their life. Uh physically,
emotionally, mentally, violent,
violently, night tremors, suicidal
tendencies, all kinds of health conditions.
conditions.
One moment their heart opens and and all
of a sudden they see they they see it
all. They see their betrayers. They have
nothing but forgiveness for them. Their
body heals, their mind heals, they
completely change their they're they're
they got they're they're they have
another opportunity in life, right? So,
so it's not a bad practice
to intentionally create the emotions
>> that are good for you. And if you keep
doing it over and over again, just like
anything, you'll get easier for you to
feel it. And I think if you practice
that enough times and you have a
different consciousness when you show up
in a relationship, doesn't matter what
kind of relation, intimate relationship,
relationship with your friends,
relationship with your dog, relationship with
with
>> co-workers or co-workers or whatever,
>> there's an air about a person who is
poised that's relaxed in their heart and
awaken their brain. So much so that it's
so much better than being stressed out,
unconscious, and living in a program
that it's noticeable. And and and we're
doing these studies on facial
recognition because one of the things
that happens at the end of a 7-day event
is people return back into their life
and people say to them, "You look
completely different. What happened to
you?" And we we right down to the
stitch. You know, we have these, you
know, algorithms that are looking at all
the facial patterns and people are
literally literally changed. Their face
is is different at the end of 7 days. So
when when the energy moves from the
heart to the brain, there's a just a
whole different um a different
expression, right? We start to bloom in
a sense. And and then the question is
that consciousness is considers the
whole. The consciousness of love is
holistic. It always considers the whole.
Like how is this going to affect the
whole? It's no longer selfish. You know,
the first three energy centers of the
body have everything to do with the
self, right? And this is a this is a
selfless state. This is how can I give?
Uh you know, when you give, you release
an enormous amount of oxytocin. feels
like you're receiving if you do it, you
know, genuinely. Uh you're kinder,
you're more caring, you're more present,
you're more loving, you're you're you're
more intentional, you're more relaxed.
And that's the natural state of being.
And you got to practice feeling that
way. And then the last step is that when
you're not there,
valid, justified or not, as the reason
why the only person that is hurting is
you, can you break the addiction in that
moment? and convert from those emotions
of frustration or anger or judgment or
whatever you know when you're rallied
can you can you can you get be
intelligent enough emotionally to say
let me see if I can settle myself down I
mean that would be the greatest victory
>> because I think if you when it's the
hardest it matters the most >> yes
>> yes
>> and then after that point it gets easy
right so
so um I think that people interpret love
in a lot of different ways. Uh but when
people truly really mine for it within
themselves uh and they hit that moment,
I think the greatest thing that they
realize is that it's not coming from
anyone or anything out there. It's it's
been within them the whole time that
this cracks open and now they are love.
It's not like they have to practice
being love. They
>> the side effect of that moment is
they're more more free. They're they're
more in love with life. if there see
beauty. You know,
>> so interesting we're saying this because
we want to be selfless and be thinking
outward thinking. How do we give? How do
we contribute? Right? But we also need
to be selfish in some ways and say, I'm
not looking for someone to give me love
to feel loved. I'm going to create the
love within me. And therefore, we have
to be selfish in some ways to
>> But that's not selfish. That's like
that's honoring yourself in a way that
when you when this is the plane of
demonstration. You get to you got to you
got to demonstrate who you want to be.
This is where you got to practice. This
is the this is the theater. You got to
get out there and you got to demonstrate
what love would do. Like and and and the
soul is the, you know, the soul is
really interested in that. Like that's
what it wants. It wants the adventure.
It wants to get out of survival finally,
you know, in and and and begin to
experience a whole different set of
events in our life that that we create.
So, so is it possible then that a person
can get so good at feeling that way that
that when they present themselves in a
relationship, you could feel their love?
Like then then they're sovereign. Like
you're so a person who truly feels love
is going to be okay with you. They're
going to just be okay with you. A person
who's resentful,
>> they're going they're a person who
resents themselves is going to resent
others. People who hate themselves are
going to hate others. People who judge
themselves are going to judge others. So
a person who's grateful, a person who's
in love with life, who practices that
intentionally, they're not going to knee-jerk
knee-jerk
as fast because they're going to know
the difference between constantly living
there and then getting their body out of
stress and survival and moving it back
into homeostasis. And we discovered when
you get a person back into homeostasis,
the body has the innate capacity to heal
itself. That's what it does when it's
back in balance. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
Is there a moment someone can understand
when they're fully healed? Is there like
a moment in the body or the brain where
you feel like, "Oh, I'm actually healed.
I'm not going into fight or flight
anymore in these moments. I'm not
triggered anymore." Is there a moment
where people can feel fully healed?
>> Yeah, God, this is a great conversation.
I'll see if I can answer it simply. Um,
we have a a group of language
specialists uh from the University of
Central Oklahoma that study the language
of transformation and they've come they
found us and they were just blown away
and they have these computer algorithms
where there where they study like the
language of our community and
independent by the way of your native
language for any country you're from. At
the end of seven days everybody speaks
the same uses the same words. if we use
the same language. So a new culture is
created, right? So the power behind that
is amazing. So when we're looking at
people, uh there's two ways um that we
we discover this process of transformation.
transformation.
One is the immediate way and this is
happening more, but I'll give you the
short version. Um, if you could practice
dialing down your thinking brain, your
neoortex, the mechanism here that plugs
you into threedimensional reality, the
the autobiographical self, the
repository of everything you've learned
and experienced up until this moment. If
you can practice lowering your brain
waves from beta to alpha, you know,
alpha being that dreamy creative state
into a brain wave called theta. When
you're in theta, you're in a hypnotic
state. And when you're a hypnotic state,
you're very suggestible to information.
And suggestability is your ability to
accept, believe, and surrender to
information without analyzing it. And
that's and not as without analyzing it,
whether it's true or not. And that goes
right into the subconscious. It begins
to program the subconscious. Right? So,
but if you're in a state of theta, now
imagine this. You're in a suggestible
state, a hypnotic state, but your eyes
are closed. The music is filling the
space of the room. You're not eating.
You're not tasting. You're not smelling.
You're not feeling with your body. But
the door between the conscious mind, the
subconscious mind is wide open because
you've suppressed your analytical mind.
That's what separates it. We discovered
when people just go a little outside of
normal and theta and they put their
awareness on instead of the particle in
quantum physics, the wave, instead of
matter and energy, they open their awareness.
awareness.
If the brain's in the right state, all
of a sudden we see this arousal take
place in the nervous system where they
move into these very elegant, very high
states of gamma brain waves. And the
gamma is like super consciousness. And
it's it's not a little gamma. It's not a
lot of gamma. It's not a whole lot of
gamma. It's a supernatural amount of
gamma. And we see it over and over
again. In fact, we had a neuroscientist
from UC San Diego at our last event in
Denver last week and she was doubting,
you know, a lot and she saw it on the
128 lead brain scan and she was like,
"We got to we got to measure all the
time." I'm like, "I know. I know. I've
been telling you this, but it's all the
gamma is taking place in the in the lyic
brain right under the neoortex. the seat
of the autonomic nervous system, the
automatic nervous system is on fire and
the and the frequency is super high.
It's super coherent and it's compressed.
The autonomic nervous system controls
and coordinates all other systems. So
when a person connects to energy,
they're in that right state, suggestible
to information. All frequency carries
information, right? So now they're
suggestible, but they're not getting it
through their senses. They're getting it
from the field, right? Right? And when
the brain is coherent, it can it can
become entrained and then it acts as a
transducer and the autonomic nervous
system goes into these gamma states and
every single cell in the body is being
informed by new information and and the
body is lifted by light. It's lifted by
energy. When that occurs,
we see an instantaneous healing that
goes on with a person. Like there's the
Parkinson's, now it's gone. There's the
eczema, now it's gone. There's the stage
four cancer, now it's gone. There's the
musculardrophe, now it's gone. There's a
spinal cord injury, now it's gone.
There's the blindness, now it's gone.
You know, that's there's an upgrade that
takes place. So, that that's
instantaneous. And we see that more and
more these days. It's an event.
>> It's an inoment. It's an inner event
that is changing a person's biology. And
if all disease is a lowering of
frequency, I believe and an incoherent
pattern, this coherent energy is
literally lifting the body with light,
right? And so we see an automatic
instantaneous upgrade. It's it's it's
miraculous. So So that is the that's the
instantaneous one that we see
in the study of the language of transformation.
transformation.
Many times people are going from one
personality to another personality and
they know that they have to change and
and a lot of people say, "Well, I
believe this works. You know, I've seen
all the testimonials. I I really believe
in it. I just didn't believe it would
work for me." There's a big moment cuz
you got to get out of the bleachers. You
got to get on the playing field. You got
to show up every day because if you're
going to believe in that possibility,
you got to believe in yourself. And if
you got to believe in yourself, you got
to believe in possibility. and and your
belief in yourself must be earned,
right? You got to show up, right? So,
one of the consistent things that happen
with a lot of these people that cross
the river of change is some of them do
their meditations for a year, for 8
months, for 13 months, for 2 years. All
along they're changing. All along they
notice that the more they change, the
less pain they have. They're sleeping
better through the night. They can eat
more than 10 foods. They have more energy,
energy,
>> less reactive. Yeah. starting to notice
that something's changing and then in time
time
>> they start to notice that their body
starts to change, right? And that's all
they need because the moment they notice
something changing, they're going to pay
attention to what they're doing and
they're going to do it again. But now
their belief
is going to be amplified because they're
noticing it. So now they're now they're
more intentional. Now they're more
present. Now they're assigning meaning
to the act a little bit more.
And many people will say, "I just I just
knew just in this one meditation, I just
knew I was going to be okay." Like I
just knew it. Like I just knew. But they
But don't forget, they're showing up
every day for 8 months or 13 months or a
year, 2 years. They're not missing a
day. Cuz if they missed the day, then
they wouldn't believe that that they're
the creator of their life.
So according to the language specialist,
the person who has that big gamma
moment, their description of the
experience is is the number one thing
that they speak about is what they felt.
In fact, I've had people on the stage uh
describe their experience, you know, and
they're weeping and there's the most
incredible experience of their life and
I'm like, will you please tell the
audience, "Oh, oh yeah, I was blind. Now
I can see." Yeah. Like they
the the upgrade wasn't as profound
as the as the experience that they had
like and so
>> what is that feeling that they have when
they feel healed?
>> So it's a great question. So the
language specialists have divided it
into two categories. One is very somatic
like every single cell in my body was
filled with light. It was like my heart
exploded like an engine. Like energy
shot down my fingertips like a lightning
bolt. The top of my head blew off. Very
sematic, right? Very sematic. It felt
like this. But they're using metaphors.
It's not like that.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> The other element is very emotional.
Like they say, I never felt love like
that in my life. I never I forgot I
forgot how that I'm that I'm connected.
I I forgot that there's a divine
intelligence in me. I feel more bliss,
more ecstasy. I feel more grateful for
life. It's very emotional. But they'll
say, "No, but that's not it. It's not
like any feeling that I've ever had
before." Right? So remember, the end
product of an experience is an emotion.
So they're inward experience that
they're having is so transcendental and
it's coming with an emotion. And the
emotion tends to be less chemical,
tends to be more electric. It feels like
they're like it's like a profound level
of energy. Stronger the emotion you feel
when that's happening, the more you're
going to remember what's going on
between your ears, right? The people who
cross a river of change that take time,
when they when they pop up and they see
a new landscape, when they see a future
and they know it,
they become less um obsessed and worried
or desperate about what their future
looks like. Even sometimes if they're
and we just had someone on the stage the
other day, even when they were getting
worse, they were like, I know I'm going
to be okay. Like, I'm just going to keep
doing this. I know I'm going to be okay.
And they just kept showing up. And then
all of a sudden, their values started to
change and the next thing starts to
change. And they just and many of them
say, um, you know, I just got to this
point where I just I just like myself so
much. I was so grateful
>> uh for every for everything that I'm
learning. I I really could care less if
I have the disease. And that's the
moment it goes away, right? Because
they're no longer identifying with it
any longer. That's the moment where
they're where they're free, right? So
they've changed so much that that
they're happy, you know, and and and
they're no longer they're no longer
identifying with themselves as that
personality any longer. And so many
people will say,
"God, I would have never become this
person if I didn't have that disease. Wow.
Wow.
>> I would have never become wealthy if I
didn't have to spend that time in jail
or go bankrupt. I would never be this
guy. I'm so happy. I'm so happy all of
that happened. It was all purposeful
good for me to become this person.
Right. So, so that
>> it's a level of appreciation for
everything in the past. Exactly. without
a level of resentment and anger and
frustration and
>> and many people say oh my god like the
disease it exists in that person I'm not
that person I'm someone else and there's
a sense of temporality that we see in
the language as well
>> the language is says like I'm here as
this person and I'm not the same person
hasn't been the same person I've been
changing all along and and and that was
somebody else the disease exists in that
unhappy person
>> that's interesting because you talked
about in the beginning that every want
we have comes from a feeling of
separateness or lack.
>> There's nothing wrong with that,
>> right? But it's almost like
once you're what you're describing right
now is people are now separate from
their old person that had the behaviors,
the attitude, the values completely different.
different.
>> Now they're separate from the person
that was living in lack, suffering, disease.
disease.
They're not identifying as that person anymore.
anymore.
>> Exactly. Exactly. That's exactly what
what it is. They've they've put in their
time to that to break down that
unlearning of that 95%.
They had to stop thinking one way and
start thinking another way. That's not
easy. Especially if you're hardwired to
think a certain way. You got to you got
to come up against yourself. They have
to stop acting one way and start acting
another way. Stop doing certain things,
start doing other things. Stop feeling
one way, start feeling another way. They
got to break the habit of their old self
and reinvent a new self. And the 95%
is the is the overcoming process. And we
discovered that the overcoming process
is actually the becoming process. And
and that is the work, right? That's why
that's why it's so important for people
to come up against themselves at our
immersive experience and the 7-day
events. I want people to come right up
against those programs because they're
never going to face off with them unless
they're just sitting there. They have to
decide, do I really want to believe this
any longer? Do I really want to feel
this? Do I really want to hold on to
this memory? Do I really want to
complain anymore if I want to be happy?
I'm never going to be happy if I'm
complaining. Complaining makes me
unhappy. Right? So, so there's this kind of
of
essence that starts to emerge out of the
human being when they're when they're in
the fire there and they're struggling
and they keep working. As tedious as it
may seem in the beginning, when they
start, you know, disinvesting and
objectifying their subjective self, when
they start turning that around, it's
natural then, it's natural for them to
start dreaming again, it's natural for
them to start believing in their future
and they start feeling really worthy,
>> really worthy of of their future.
talked about I heard you say that people
have had these you know divine healings
at your events and your weeklong events
and they come up on stage and talk about
instantaneously having these incredible
healings and they've never felt this
feeling before. I'm curious and I've
been to your weeklong event and I've
heard you talk at the end of the event.
This is what I heard you say a few years
ago that you love life and you love God
and your relationship with God. I'm
curious, how has your relationship
evolved with God in your life over the
last few years?
>> For me, um
I I don't really say the God word much.
>> I heard it once at your event at the
very end of the event.
>> Yeah. Because I I think I may have said
something like, "Don't make this work be
about me." >> Uhhuh.
>> Uhhuh.
>> I want it to be about you. And and I'm
just a person who loves the divine. I
love God. I love the unknown. Right? So
that really translates for me into a uh
a personal relationship with the divine
within me. It's a it's a time to connect
with it, to be present with it, uh to
meet it in love, you know, to surrender
to it. Uh and and I think uh you got to
you got to bring it to life. You got to
bring it into your life by becoming
aware of it. And and it is a mystery
because it's the it's the unseen. And it
turns out there's more information in
the immaterial than there ever will be
in the material. Right? And so the
mystery of the unknown, the mystery of
whatever that unseen force is that that
intelligence, that singularity, the
source, the oneness, whatever you want
to call it, it exists in every human
being. And if you if you want to hide it
really well, put it within, you know,
people look everywhere else for it. So,
it's been a a process of investigation
for me since
>> uh 1986, you know, and
>> and um
>> having a love affair with the divine
within you and making time to to be
present with it and to have a
relationship with it and connect with
it. I think it works in really wonderful
and mysterious ways. So, so um
>> what's your relationship like these days
>> with the divine or God or or whatever
you call it for yourself? >> Um
>> Um
yeah, I mean the the challenge that I
have in my life given my schedule and
the amount of hours that I travel is to
really prioritize that. You know, one of
the things that um has been very helpful
for me is to set my cell phone down uh
after 7 o'clock at night just to just to
set it down and and do things that
normal people would do if they didn't
have technology. Whether it's betting
out in nature or going to the beach or
taking a scooter ride or working in your
garden or reading a book or sitting
outside and watching the birds, it's
just I think it's really good. That's
all part of the process. So for me, I
think you know, one of the challenges
that I have if I was being vulnerable
would be like um
having the time when I'm traveling to to
go as deep as I want because we're with
these events that we run or we're you
know we're up at 5 in the morning and we
finish at 7:30 or 8 at night. I mean I'm
doing the meditations while I'm while
I'm leading. um doing it with everybody,
but I would say that that would be
something that I would would want to
get, you know, have more time for.
>> So, it's a sacrifice, right?
>> Do you ever I mean, I don't think I've
ever heard you talk about this stuff
either personally or just publicly, but
do you ever have conversations with the
divine or God or
>> Yeah, I do. I do. I I think
synchronizing your heart to your brain,
I think the brain may think, but the
heart knows. And we practice a lot
synchronizing the heart to the brain.
And if you can synchronize the heart to
the brain and they have the same energy,
then they're the same frequency. And and
if they're the same frequency, then they
can exchange information. So I've had
profound moments where my heart has
spoken to me. And I think it's the
greatest guide that we'll ever have. And
and I've gone against it, by the way,
numerous times. And 100% of the time
I've been wrong,
>> thinking that I know better or tricking
it or something.
>> It's too inconvenient. I don't I don't
want to do that, you know, and
ultimately I had to make the choice
anyway. So,
>> do you think when God or the divine
speaks to us, God speaks to our mind or
to our heart, our body or our souls?
>> Um, I don't know like I don't know. I
think it's an impulse like it's a it's a
opening. Uh, and you know, I give you an
example. My friend the other day was
telling me that he went for a hike with
his dog and uh he's my trainer. Like he
lost his keys and he was fretting about
it. I know his personality
and um he told me I went up I went up
that path three times. Then I then I I
walked up and down couldn't find the
keys. He goes then I waited the next
morning. I went back up with the dog. I
walked I you know I checked everywhere.
And he goes, "I I couldn't find my keys
to my to my house or whatever it was.
His car keys, maybe it was or all of his keys."
keys."
And then uh he says, "I went and did
your meditation." It was he said, "I did
an hour and a half meditation." He said,
"Right in the middle of the meditation." >> Oh.
>> Oh.
>> He said, "I just saw that like a screen
opened up and I saw the keys right
between this crack right next to the
bench where I was sitting." And he goes,
"And I went there. I ran there." And he
goes, "They were just like the picture
right there." So that's information,
right? That's that's what we have access
to. That is the divine, right? That is
>> that is it. Like when you're open that
that is to him just as important as the
person who's healed. They just connect
with information, different frequency,
right? So
>> cuz the information is there in the
world. The keys, the keys are somewhere.
There's information in this
three-dimensional world of where they are.
are.
>> Yeah. And in the quantum, too. The
information is in the quantum, too.
Right. So, so the point is is that
>> the opportunities are endless if you're
really getting good at dialing into
information. So,
>> is it important to me? Absolutely. Do I
know like
the biological changes that take place
of a person putting more attention on
the uh unseen than on the scene? More
attention on the immaterial than the material.
material.
>> If they do that for 7 days, I can tell
you that
>> their brain's going to be better. It's
going to be more coherent. It's going to
be less compartmentalized, less
modulated. Their brains are going to
look like they're on psilocybin. That's
what our data shows. The default mode
network in the brain's going to shut
off, which means you're not going to be
trying to always anticipate the next
moment. you'll be more in the present
moment. Um, your heart works better. Um,
your microbiome changes dramatically
without changing your diet. There's
information in the plasma of advanced
meditators that create an immunity to
spike viruses. We've published a paper
on it. We've isolated the protein. that
information. There's information in the
plasma of advanced meditators that shut
off 70% of mitochondrial function in
cancer cells just by interacting with
that invisible field of energy. Right?
There's information that 100% of the people that we measured in 63 different
people that we measured in 63 different diseases,
diseases, 100% of them were making their own
100% of them were making their own endogenous opioids, natural pain
endogenous opioids, natural pain relievers that create euphoria
relievers that create euphoria independent of the disease
independent of the disease >> in the inner pharmacy, not something
>> in the inner pharmacy, not something they're taking but
they're taking but >> just by connecting to information that
>> just by connecting to information that invisible field. There's information the
invisible field. There's information the plasma advanced meditators that create
plasma advanced meditators that create new nerve cells, growing new neurons,
new nerve cells, growing new neurons, neurogenesis, right? So this field of
neurogenesis, right? So this field of order, this field of information by
order, this field of information by connecting to it, the greater the order,
connecting to it, the greater the order, the greater the information, the greater
the greater the information, the greater the frequency, the greater the
the frequency, the greater the consciousness, the greater the effects
consciousness, the greater the effects in our human biology. So we now know the
in our human biology. So we now know the breast milk of of uh lactating moms
breast milk of of uh lactating moms at the end of 7 days a completely
at the end of 7 days a completely different expression of breast milk.
different expression of breast milk. Completely different. There's there's
Completely different. There's there's proteins in their milk that are
proteins in their milk that are anti-cancer
anti-cancer that promote all kinds of healing and
that promote all kinds of healing and wound healing. There's just a plethora
wound healing. There's just a plethora of in uh of chemistry that's created
of in uh of chemistry that's created >> from this interaction with this
>> from this interaction with this invisible field of energy. And I always
invisible field of energy. And I always say to the scientists,
say to the scientists, where is that information coming from?
where is that information coming from? Where where is it coming from? I mean,
Where where is it coming from? I mean, how can you have all these metabolites
how can you have all these metabolites all of a sudden in the blood that
all of a sudden in the blood that weren't there before at the beginning of
weren't there before at the beginning of seven days? Well, when the when the
seven days? Well, when the when the nervous system is tuned and the thinking
nervous system is tuned and the thinking brain is dialed down, your autonomic
brain is dialed down, your autonomic nervous system is the chemical brain. It
nervous system is the chemical brain. It is the emotional brain. It's going to
is the emotional brain. It's going to begin to transduce the information in
begin to transduce the information in the form of frequency into biology and
the form of frequency into biology and chemistry. And and so all of these
chemistry. And and so all of these regulatory factors and metabolites are
regulatory factors and metabolites are upregulating for growth, for repair.
upregulating for growth, for repair. There's new neurons sprouting, right?
There's new neurons sprouting, right? There's a the cell is greater than the
There's a the cell is greater than the environment. Put a virus there and it
environment. Put a virus there and it cannot enter the cell.
cannot enter the cell. >> You know, there it downregulates the
>> You know, there it downregulates the genes for Alzheimer's. The the royal
genes for Alzheimer's. The the royal blood like it's so this feel
blood like it's so this feel >> is actually real. So
>> is actually real. So >> that's the mystery. Like it's not like
>> that's the mystery. Like it's not like God some white guy on with a beard on a
God some white guy on with a beard on a laptop, you know, keeping track of Lewis
laptop, you know, keeping track of Lewis and going to send him to a hot place for
and going to send him to a hot place for all of eternity or
all of eternity or >> it's not that.
>> it's not that. >> It is the mystery of the unseen. It's
>> It is the mystery of the unseen. It's the mystery. If the probability that
the mystery. If the probability that we're perceiving the truth of reality is
we're perceiving the truth of reality is zero, it's zero. That's the mathematics.
zero, it's zero. That's the mathematics. In other words, our our brains are wired
In other words, our our brains are wired to filter out anything that's not
to filter out anything that's not material. We're basically seeing the
material. We're basically seeing the wavelength, the small frequency band of
wavelength, the small frequency band of visible light, red, orange, yellow,
visible light, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet. That small
green, blue, indigo, violet. That small bandwidth that frequency is bouncing off
bandwidth that frequency is bouncing off the most stable form of energy called
the most stable form of energy called matter and it's fooling us into this
matter and it's fooling us into this illusion separation. That's a very small
illusion separation. That's a very small percentage of reality. That's less than
percentage of reality. That's less than 1% of reality.
1% of reality. >> Wow.
>> Wow. >> So then put your less of your attention
>> So then put your less of your attention on the material and more of attention on
on the material and more of attention on the immaterial. disinvest all of your
the immaterial. disinvest all of your attention out of threedimensional
attention out of threedimensional reality and teach people that there is
reality and teach people that there is that field is real.
that field is real. >> Have them feel it. Have them experience
>> Have them feel it. Have them experience it. Have them relax into it. Have them
it. Have them relax into it. Have them fall in love with it. Have them pay
fall in love with it. Have them pay attention to it. Stay aware of it.
attention to it. Stay aware of it. Become more of it and less less of them.
Become more of it and less less of them. >> Somehow they it's reflected in their
>> Somehow they it's reflected in their biology. There's dramatic changes that
biology. There's dramatic changes that take place. So the mystery of of
take place. So the mystery of of whatever that is, you know, God or
whatever that is, you know, God or whatever, to me, that's the excitement.
whatever, to me, that's the excitement. And and and once again, the the data is
And and and once again, the the data is is unbelievable. It's not it's not like
is unbelievable. It's not it's not like 10% of the population has a two standard
10% of the population has a two standard deviation change in their right temporal
deviation change in their right temporal lobe. It's not like that. It's like 77%
lobe. It's not like that. It's like 77% 84% 90% 95% 100% of the community
84% 90% 95% 100% of the community it's having these effects at the end of
it's having these effects at the end of 7 days
7 days >> and and think about it I mean we we do
>> and and think about it I mean we we do genetic studies independent of the
genetic studies independent of the person's gene genome their their
person's gene genome their their individual genome genes make proteins
individual genome genes make proteins at the end of seven days people behaving
at the end of seven days people behaving in the same way learning the same
in the same way learning the same information, doing the same things,
information, doing the same things, creating the same feelings. At the end
creating the same feelings. At the end of 7 days, 80% of the people are
of 7 days, 80% of the people are expressing the same genes, making the
expressing the same genes, making the same proteins. That means there's an
same proteins. That means there's an emergent consciousness that's taking
emergent consciousness that's taking place biologically. When people behave
place biologically. When people behave in the same way, that's reflected in
in the same way, that's reflected in their gene expression. In other words,
their gene expression. In other words, the flock, the herd, the tribe is
the flock, the herd, the tribe is evolving collectively together because
evolving collectively together because they're sharing the same consciousness.
they're sharing the same consciousness. So, so people change people then. So,
So, so people change people then. So, then you interact with somebody in that
then you interact with somebody in that state and the person's grateful and
state and the person's grateful and you're grateful and you're in love and
you're grateful and you're in love and they're in love and you see the divine
they're in love and you see the divine in them and they see the divine in you
in them and they see the divine in you and you're coherent and you're clear and
and you're coherent and you're clear and you've kind of managed your attention
you've kind of managed your attention and your emotions and you're kind of out
and your emotions and you're kind of out of that personality. It's it's bound to
of that personality. It's it's bound to start creating all kinds of health
start creating all kinds of health changes in people uh as a side effect of
changes in people uh as a side effect of it. And and it's not uncommon that
it. And and it's not uncommon that someone stands on the stage that has a
someone stands on the stage that has a certain health condition. I saw it
certain health condition. I saw it happen just a just a couple months ago
happen just a just a couple months ago or a guy with Parkinson's disease. He he
or a guy with Parkinson's disease. He he horrible. He he lost his memory. Then he
horrible. He he lost his memory. Then he lost his hearing. Then he lost his
lost his hearing. Then he lost his eyesight.
eyesight. >> Uh and then he he couldn't uh move. He
>> Uh and then he he couldn't uh move. He got paralyzed on one side of his body.
got paralyzed on one side of his body. He had tremors. He had a lot of pain. He
He had tremors. He had a lot of pain. He was uh drooling on himself. He was
was uh drooling on himself. He was frozen in prison.
frozen in prison. I saw him on the stage. He has no cane.
I saw him on the stage. He has no cane. His walking is nothing,
His walking is nothing, no effect, right? He's complete reversal
no effect, right? He's complete reversal of the condition without taking anything
of the condition without taking anything >> in seven days in
>> in seven days in >> in and well, he was doing the work and
>> in and well, he was doing the work and then he came to the event and then it
then he came to the event and then it happened, right? He had his moment. But
happened, right? He had his moment. But what it speaks to is that 4-minute mile
what it speaks to is that 4-minute mile where somebody in the audience is like,
where somebody in the audience is like, "This dude doesn't look any different
"This dude doesn't look any different than me. He's in his 60s. He looks a
than me. He's in his 60s. He looks a little overweight. He's wearing a
little overweight. He's wearing a baseball cap. I'd probably walk past
baseball cap. I'd probably walk past them in the on the street." But he's the
them in the on the street." But he's the example of truth. And there were so many
example of truth. And there were so many people in that audience that had
people in that audience that had Parkinson's disease and he was the hope.
Parkinson's disease and he was the hope. He was the light for them.
He was the light for them. >> That's cool.
>> That's cool. >> They're like, "If he can do it, I can do
>> They're like, "If he can do it, I can do it." And then all of a sudden, just like
it." And then all of a sudden, just like an infection spreads amongst a community
an infection spreads amongst a community and creates disease, now you see health
and creates disease, now you see health and wellness becoming as infectious as
and wellness becoming as infectious as disease. You know, we had five people
disease. You know, we had five people step out of a wheelchair at one event
step out of a wheelchair at one event last year in Denver. We had uh five
last year in Denver. We had uh five people with Rainard syndrome in the UK
people with Rainard syndrome in the UK that one person stood on the stage,
that one person stood on the stage, another person sto just just happened
another person sto just just happened just like that with two people that were
just like that with two people that were blind. Two, not one, but two got their
blind. Two, not one, but two got their vision back. I I couldn't believe it.
vision back. I I couldn't believe it. Right. It's just it's it's a footprint
Right. It's just it's it's a footprint in consciousness, right, that people can
in consciousness, right, that people can step into when you see that stage
step into when you see that stage testimonial.
testimonial. And so I want it to be to the point
And so I want it to be to the point where you see it and you can't go back
where you see it and you can't go back to business as usual. That's the that's
to business as usual. That's the that's what's happened to me in the last 6
what's happened to me in the last 6 months. Like I've seen stage
months. Like I've seen stage testimonials that have changed my belief
testimonials that have changed my belief in what's possible. I just I consider
in what's possible. I just I consider myself an open-minded person. You've
myself an open-minded person. You've seen a lot of healings also over the
seen a lot of healings also over the years,
years, >> right? But it was just keeps getting
>> right? But it was just keeps getting better. It just keeps getting like how
better. It just keeps getting like how did that happen? Like how did that
did that happen? Like how did that person make that dramatic change? Like
person make that dramatic change? Like >> woman had her colon and rectum
>> woman had her colon and rectum surgically removed from cancer.
surgically removed from cancer. Literally grew a whole new rectum.
Literally grew a whole new rectum. >> Wow.
>> Wow. >> Whole new colon. And I saw the scans.
>> Whole new colon. And I saw the scans. It's not scar tissue. It's juvenile,
It's not scar tissue. It's juvenile, healthy, regenerated, brand new tissue,
healthy, regenerated, brand new tissue, brand new rectum and colon.
brand new rectum and colon. >> Wow.
>> Wow. >> What does that mean? What does that
>> What does that mean? What does that mean? It means the the human body has
mean? It means the the human body has the innate capacity to regenerate itself
the innate capacity to regenerate itself at any age. She's in her 70s or late 60s
at any age. She's in her 70s or late 60s given the right information. Like we've
given the right information. Like we've been programmed something else.
been programmed something else. So when you see that, it's unbelievable,
So when you see that, it's unbelievable, right? It's it stretches my belief in in
right? It's it stretches my belief in in what's humanly possible. But if one
what's humanly possible. But if one person can do it, it means that anybody
person can do it, it means that anybody can do it.
can do it. >> Wow. I'm I'm curious about this. You
>> Wow. I'm I'm curious about this. You know, for the last, let's say, 10 years,
know, for the last, let's say, 10 years, meditation and therapy has both been
meditation and therapy has both been more in the mainstream.
more in the mainstream. >> A lot of people talking about
>> A lot of people talking about meditation, a lot of people doing
meditation, a lot of people doing therapy and a lot of people just broken,
therapy and a lot of people just broken, right? Just broken and feeling like they
right? Just broken and feeling like they need healing. Do we actually need
need healing. Do we actually need traditional therapy in your mind to heal
traditional therapy in your mind to heal or can meditation, mindset, breath work
or can meditation, mindset, breath work help us heal trauma just as fast?
help us heal trauma just as fast? >> Yeah, we're doing a study in December to
>> Yeah, we're doing a study in December to answer that question, a randomized
answer that question, a randomized control study, and we're using um uh
control study, and we're using um uh veterans in in special ops in San Diego.
veterans in in special ops in San Diego. And we're going to uh u most of these
And we're going to uh u most of these men and women probably don't know
men and women probably don't know anything about me. Uh, and we're just
anything about me. Uh, and we're just we're randomly selecting them and
we're randomly selecting them and they're going to come. We're pretty
they're going to come. We're pretty confident because we've seen enough of
confident because we've seen enough of them break through. I mean, you tell a
them break through. I mean, you tell a Navy Seal, you know, get that heart view
Navy Seal, you know, get that heart view of yours open. We set the baseline for
of yours open. We set the baseline for trauma in the brain. They're going to
trauma in the brain. They're going to not going to say, "Oh, I can't do it."
not going to say, "Oh, I can't do it." They're going to be like, "I'll do it,
They're going to be like, "I'll do it, sir."
sir." >> Wow.
>> Wow. >> I mean, they'll do it.
>> I mean, they'll do it. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, we're going to compare
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, we're going to compare the PTSD um when a person goes through a
the PTSD um when a person goes through a 7-day retreat with some clinical, you
7-day retreat with some clinical, you know, cognitive neuroscience and in in
know, cognitive neuroscience and in in therapy and compare the two models and
therapy and compare the two models and with a control to see which which does
with a control to see which which does the best. But I here's my answer to
the best. But I here's my answer to that. Um I really think it's a function
that. Um I really think it's a function of the therapist. Like if the therapist
of the therapist. Like if the therapist is present, the therapist has a good way
is present, the therapist has a good way to help a person not only have an
to help a person not only have an insight. Like insight really doesn't
insight. Like insight really doesn't change behavior. You could say your
change behavior. You could say your father was overbearing or your father
father was overbearing or your father was never present, but it doesn't change
was never present, but it doesn't change your behavior in any way. It just
your behavior in any way. It just actually it actually validates it in a
actually it actually validates it in a certain way. It's kind of like you
certain way. It's kind of like you excuse yourself for being this way.
excuse yourself for being this way. So the insight doesn't change the
So the insight doesn't change the behavior but if there's a practical tool
behavior but if there's a practical tool that the person can do whatever that is
that the person can do whatever that is you know whatever it is to help them to
you know whatever it is to help them to behave differently to and to function to
behave differently to and to function to a greater degree in their life right and
a greater degree in their life right and so
so many people who come to the week-long
many people who come to the week-long event that have been bruised or been
event that have been bruised or been damaged or have been traumatized um many
damaged or have been traumatized um many of them
of them can function better in their world
can function better in their world because they've
because they've gotten over their past to some degree.
gotten over their past to some degree. Now, again, there's everybody's at
Now, again, there's everybody's at different stages. Everybody's had a
different stages. Everybody's had a different past. Um, but when we look at
different past. Um, but when we look at the changes that are taking place in the
the changes that are taking place in the majority of people, we're pretty
majority of people, we're pretty confident that it's it's good for
confident that it's it's good for people. It's good for people to do
people. It's good for people to do >> therapy.
>> therapy. >> No, the if you said compare the therapy
>> No, the if you said compare the therapy against the meditation and all that
against the meditation and all that stuff.
stuff. >> So, um, and then of course there's
>> So, um, and then of course there's different types of meditations, right?
different types of meditations, right? And then there just gets it just gets
And then there just gets it just gets complicated. So if you find something
complicated. So if you find something that you feel good about,
that you feel good about, >> do it.
>> do it. >> Yeah. Do more of it.
>> Yeah. Do more of it. >> Yeah. Do more of it.
>> Yeah. Do more of it. >> Try multiple things if you need.
>> Try multiple things if you need. >> Sure. Sure. Of course.
>> Sure. Sure. Of course. >> Is there something that you think cannot
>> Is there something that you think cannot be manifested?
>> Yeah. I don't know. I mean, >> cuz you've seen a lot of people do some
>> cuz you've seen a lot of people do some amazing things. Well, I mean, I'm weird,
amazing things. Well, I mean, I'm weird, you know, in that way. I'm always
you know, in that way. I'm always pushing the envelope of what's humanly
pushing the envelope of what's humanly possible. I mean,
possible. I mean, >> there's just kind of the the more of the
>> there's just kind of the the more of the academic analytical mind of myself that
academic analytical mind of myself that is always dubtailing concepts to build
is always dubtailing concepts to build this bigger model of what's possible.
this bigger model of what's possible. So, and that's kind of a fascination of
So, and that's kind of a fascination of something that I love to do. I'm I've
something that I love to do. I'm I've never stopped doing that. It's always
never stopped doing that. It's always going on in my mind. I I I enjoy the I
going on in my mind. I I I enjoy the I enjoy the the process of looking closely
enjoy the the process of looking closely and and dubtailing things together, but
and and dubtailing things together, but there was a side of me that was exposed
there was a side of me that was exposed to, you know, books uh when I was in my
to, you know, books uh when I was in my late teens and early 20s that caused me
late teens and early 20s that caused me to think differently. Whether it was um
to think differently. Whether it was um the life and teachings of the masters
the life and teachings of the masters from the far east or yogaandanda's books
from the far east or yogaandanda's books or uh you know these books about these
or uh you know these books about these yogis and masters that could do all
yogis and masters that could do all kinds of really amazing things. I never
kinds of really amazing things. I never forgot that, you know, that was always
forgot that, you know, that was always kind of like how did they do it, you
kind of like how did they do it, you know, was it did they know about the
know, was it did they know about the mind, the subconscious mind, conscious
mind, the subconscious mind, conscious mind, and and how were they able to
mind, and and how were they able to disappear in one place and reappear in
disappear in one place and reappear in another? How did they do the, you know,
another? How did they do the, you know, manifest things out of nothing? How did
manifest things out of nothing? How did they do it? And so I always had that
they do it? And so I always had that preoccupation going on in the back of my
preoccupation going on in the back of my mind.
mind. So
So what I find really important in the work
what I find really important in the work that I do is to create the challenge
that I do is to create the challenge within the realm of the person's right
within the realm of the person's right outside their acceptance. Right? I mean
outside their acceptance. Right? I mean no one changes unless they're challenged
no one changes unless they're challenged and that's the only way we're going to
and that's the only way we're going to change. Right? So we we we we when we
change. Right? So we we we we when we run our events we challenge people to
run our events we challenge people to that extent where they're going to have
that extent where they're going to have to go past where they normally stop.
to go past where they normally stop. That's the truth is that's where the
That's the truth is that's where the greatest change uh actually takes place.
greatest change uh actually takes place. So, so if a person then has the
So, so if a person then has the understanding like okay um
understanding like okay um if I healed myself and this is this has
if I healed myself and this is this has happened people have healed themselves
happened people have healed themselves numerous times that's a new experience
numerous times that's a new experience that's not an experience I'm not just
that's not an experience I'm not just talking about healing a cut or a sore
talking about healing a cut or a sore throat or whatever or an ear ache I'm
throat or whatever or an ear ache I'm talking about healing a chronic health
talking about healing a chronic health condition which by the way requires
condition which by the way requires change lifestyle change
change lifestyle change >> I heal self. Is it possible that I can
>> I heal self. Is it possible that I can heal another person?
heal another person? >> Okay, what is the what is the science
>> Okay, what is the what is the science behind that? Where can I find the
behind that? Where can I find the information to build a model that I
information to build a model that I could actually practice this? And we now
could actually practice this? And we now know that we've got unbelievable data
know that we've got unbelievable data that people heal. When other people can
that people heal. When other people can have a coherent brain and a coherent
have a coherent brain and a coherent heart and change the information the
heart and change the information the persons feel, they can change the
persons feel, they can change the destiny of matter. We know that. Okay.
destiny of matter. We know that. Okay. Okay, so the person heals another person
Okay, so the person heals another person and then pandemic happens and now you
and then pandemic happens and now you can't uh we can't run events and so can
can't uh we can't run events and so can people get together and do remote
people get together and do remote coherence healings. Now remote means
coherence healings. Now remote means that the subject is somewhere in you
that the subject is somewhere in you know Sweden and the rest of the healers
know Sweden and the rest of the healers are spread around the globe and they're
are spread around the globe and they're all they need is a picture coordinate in
all they need is a picture coordinate in the quantum everything's connected the
the quantum everything's connected the thought of that picture or that person
thought of that picture or that person connects you to that person in the
connects you to that person in the quantum right so again evolving the
quantum right so again evolving the model
model yeah I've I've healed myself I've done
yeah I've I've healed myself I've done in-person healings now I should be able
in-person healings now I should be able to heal remotely and we have people that
to heal remotely and we have people that are unbelievable I mean we did a we did
are unbelievable I mean we did a we did a double blind uh placebo study on the
a double blind uh placebo study on the effects of remote coherence healings on
effects of remote coherence healings on with PTSD. And what we found that was
with PTSD. And what we found that was that nine out of 10 people who received
that nine out of 10 people who received the remote coherence healings no longer
the remote coherence healings no longer had PTSD. Nine out of 10. That's there's
had PTSD. Nine out of 10. That's there's no therapy, there's no pharmaceutical
no therapy, there's no pharmaceutical that does that. Right? So what does that
that does that. Right? So what does that mean? It means we must be all connected.
mean? It means we must be all connected. Right? Now I've had this experience.
Right? Now I've had this experience. I've had this experience and I've had
I've had this experience and I've had this experience. because I've had this
this experience. because I've had this experience, I can think about other
experience, I can think about other experiences that are possibilities. And
experiences that are possibilities. And so I've always tried to take a very
so I've always tried to take a very methodical approach, you know, very
methodical approach, you know, very methodical. If we did this, we did this,
methodical. If we did this, we did this, we can do this, we can do this, and we
we can do this, we can do this, and we can keep going. So then so then if we
can keep going. So then so then if we keep measuring it and we keep
keep measuring it and we keep demystifying the process
demystifying the process we can we could actually create a
we can we could actually create a greater language for transformation by
greater language for transformation by gathering the information from our
gathering the information from our studies to teach transformation better.
studies to teach transformation better. So so we're we I like to work
So so we're we I like to work methodically in a way that says okay I'm
methodically in a way that says okay I'm not going to say everybody's going to
not going to say everybody's going to leave their body and go to the moon like
leave their body and go to the moon like that's we have a lot of steps in between
that's we have a lot of steps in between right to get there. Now, now um when we
right to get there. Now, now um when we do our advanced follow-ups, people who
do our advanced follow-ups, people who have gone through a week long, it
have gone through a week long, it usually is theme- based, right? We'll do
usually is theme- based, right? We'll do like the dream time at night or
like the dream time at night or molecules of the mystical or whatever it
molecules of the mystical or whatever it is. We'll do something that's an
is. We'll do something that's an immersion for 3 days in one evening.
immersion for 3 days in one evening. These are people that meditate every day
These are people that meditate every day and they want to go further.
and they want to go further. So in those circumstances, yes, I push
So in those circumstances, yes, I push the group um for
the group um for creating greater uh degrees of
creating greater uh degrees of manifestation. But in the quantum, I'll
manifestation. But in the quantum, I'll just say this, a gold coin is no
just say this, a gold coin is no different than a feather. $100,000 is no
different than a feather. $100,000 is no different than a penny. A house in the
different than a penny. A house in the quantum is no different than, you know,
quantum is no different than, you know, uh your health. It it's all the same,
uh your health. It it's all the same, right? we just assign value to it
right? we just assign value to it thinking oh that's bigger or that's kind
thinking oh that's bigger or that's kind of more expensive but that's the the the
of more expensive but that's the the the field is objective right so
field is objective right so >> um
>> um I we've seen all kinds of people
I we've seen all kinds of people manifest all kinds of crazy things so um
manifest all kinds of crazy things so um do I think it's possible to keep
do I think it's possible to keep evolving that yeah I do I think there's
evolving that yeah I do I think there's a limit to it
a limit to it >> based on the exposure I had to the
>> based on the exposure I had to the masters from the far east and based on
masters from the far east and based on what I'm seeing you know in our
what I'm seeing you know in our community Um, you know, I'm I'm hopeful
community Um, you know, I'm I'm hopeful that I'm I'm hopeful that we get better
that I'm I'm hopeful that we get better at it.
at it. >> I mean, we're Yeah. You know, I've seen
>> I mean, we're Yeah. You know, I've seen people at your events go from healing
people at your events go from healing themselves to now healing each other in
themselves to now healing each other in person. And now you guys are studying
person. And now you guys are studying and getting the research on remote
and getting the research on remote healing, you know, looking at a photo of
healing, you know, looking at a photo of someone, thinking about them at a
someone, thinking about them at a different location around the world,
different location around the world, sending healing energy their way, and
sending healing energy their way, and then receiving the healing.
then receiving the healing. >> Double blind placebo study, too.
always experimenting. I'm always learning. And it doesn't mean other
learning. And it doesn't mean other things not great also. But for me, it
things not great also. But for me, it really helped me see things in person,
really helped me see things in person, how people can change. And when you can
how people can change. And when you can see others transforming by doing a
see others transforming by doing a practice consistently, you be like,
practice consistently, you be like, "Wow, this person had this thing and now
"Wow, this person had this thing and now they don't have it. What's possible for
they don't have it. What's possible for me?" So, I think it's important to be in
me?" So, I think it's important to be in a community where you can see
a community where you can see transformation happening in front of
transformation happening in front of your eyes. Um, so make sure you guys
your eyes. Um, so make sure you guys sign up. There's two that you have
sign up. There's two that you have coming up pretty soon. One in Nashville.
coming up pretty soon. One in Nashville. It's a weekl long advanced retreat
It's a weekl long advanced retreat September 14th through the 20th and you
September 14th through the 20th and you guys are offering $400 off registration.
guys are offering $400 off registration. You go to drispensza.com
You go to drispensza.com right now. You guys can go and check out
right now. You guys can go and check out the Nashville one. I highly recommend
the Nashville one. I highly recommend it. Or there's one in uh Orlando
it. Or there's one in uh Orlando weeklong advanced retreat. That's
weeklong advanced retreat. That's October 26th through November 1st.
October 26th through November 1st. Again, make sure you guys go to
Again, make sure you guys go to drjispensa.com
drjispensa.com to either sign up, get on the wait list
to either sign up, get on the wait list for the next one because you have to go
for the next one because you have to go if there's something if you feel called
if there's something if you feel called in any way, sign up for it. It is
in any way, sign up for it. It is extremely powerful and you're going to
extremely powerful and you're going to enter a world of love that you've never
enter a world of love that you've never experienced before for 7 days. Maybe you
experienced before for 7 days. Maybe you experienced him in the weekend with a
experienced him in the weekend with a relationship or something, but this is a
relationship or something, but this is a different type of spiritual love and
different type of spiritual love and like you said a language where
like you said a language where everyone's speaking a similar language
everyone's speaking a similar language where people are in alignment around
where people are in alignment around healing.
healing. It doesn't mean it's easy. You know, I
It doesn't mean it's easy. You know, I think I can't remember one morning we
think I can't remember one morning we got up at like 2:00 a.m. or something
got up at like 2:00 a.m. or something and we did a meditation 3:00 a.m. We did
and we did a meditation 3:00 a.m. We did a meditation for 6 hours or something
a meditation for 6 hours or something crazy
crazy >> and it felt like 20 minutes. You know,
>> and it felt like 20 minutes. You know, it's like you are going to be required
it's like you are going to be required and called to be your greatest self
and called to be your greatest self every moment to surrender and do the
every moment to surrender and do the work. And also the thing I love about
work. And also the thing I love about your events, Dr. Joe, is that you you
your events, Dr. Joe, is that you you don't just lead the meditations and have
don't just lead the meditations and have people walk through these meditations.
people walk through these meditations. You talk about the science and the
You talk about the science and the research and and all of the findings
research and and all of the findings that's coming by doing this work for
that's coming by doing this work for decades and all of the data points that
decades and all of the data points that people have had from years ago to where
people have had from years ago to where they're at now. So for me, I like it in
they're at now. So for me, I like it in the sense of you're doing the physical
the sense of you're doing the physical work. It's a workout mentally,
work. It's a workout mentally, emotionally, physically. You're changing
emotionally, physically. You're changing those three states, physical, chemical,
those three states, physical, chemical, and emotional every day. You're doing
and emotional every day. You're doing the walking meditations with beautiful
the walking meditations with beautiful sunrises. You're doing all these things.
sunrises. You're doing all these things. So, it's a physical experience, but it's
So, it's a physical experience, but it's a spiritual environment in terms of like
a spiritual environment in terms of like there's something happening in the room
there's something happening in the room where you feel spiritually connected.
where you feel spiritually connected. And if you feel like you've been
And if you feel like you've been spiritually out of alignment in your
spiritually out of alignment in your life or physically or chemically or
life or physically or chemically or emotionally just a little bit off
emotionally just a little bit off alignment, I highly recommend you go
alignment, I highly recommend you go because
because I just don't know what else you can do
I just don't know what else you can do right now that can give you the elements
right now that can give you the elements and teaching the neuroscience and the
and teaching the neuroscience and the research backing the data of the work
research backing the data of the work that you're doing. So, it's just it's
that you're doing. So, it's just it's just got all of it and it's a great
just got all of it and it's a great community. So, I highly recommend it. I
community. So, I highly recommend it. I think you know one of the common things
think you know one of the common things we get in terms of feedback is that
we get in terms of feedback is that people say I met the coolest people in
people say I met the coolest people in the world at your event.
the world at your event. >> Um because everybody really that really
>> Um because everybody really that really is embra embracing change or has a
is embra embracing change or has a vision of their future and then they're
vision of their future and then they're believing in themselves and they're
believing in themselves and they're getting their brain and body in the
getting their brain and body in the right state. I think something really
right state. I think something really intangible happens. We see it when we we
intangible happens. We see it when we we do our random event generators. we have
do our random event generators. we have these sophisticated uh coin tosses in
these sophisticated uh coin tosses in the room. And when when people come
the room. And when when people come together with with coherent brains and
together with with coherent brains and coherent hearts, those they they stop
coherent hearts, those they they stop behaving randomly. They start behaving
behaving randomly. They start behaving very intentionally. It's kind of crazy.
very intentionally. It's kind of crazy. very
very >> this is something I don't know I don't
>> this is something I don't know I don't know if people are going to catch what
know if people are going to catch what you just said but when we're in the room
you just said but when we're in the room for a week
for a week >> doing your retreats there's so much love
>> doing your retreats there's so much love and intention towards healing and brain
and intention towards healing and brain heart coherence
heart coherence >> and and creating too
>> and and creating too >> and creating and dreaming and imagining
>> and creating and dreaming and imagining and and letting go of the old self and
and and letting go of the old self and creating the new self and creating the
creating the new self and creating the new personality.
new personality. >> What does it feel like for you to
>> What does it feel like for you to experience brain heart coherence in a
experience brain heart coherence in a room for that long? specifically the
room for that long? specifically the last day when there's the the healings
last day when there's the the healings that are happening. What does that
that are happening. What does that energy feel like when you're on stage
energy feel like when you're on stage and you just feel the the energy just a
and you just feel the the energy just a massive wave of energy floating at you?
massive wave of energy floating at you? >> It's pretty big. It's really amazing.
>> It's pretty big. It's really amazing. >> What is that like? And then can you
>> What is that like? And then can you explain what this random generator is,
explain what this random generator is, what it normally does and what it does
what it normally does and what it does after that?
after that? >> Okay, so the greatest biological changes
>> Okay, so the greatest biological changes that we see across the board out of any
that we see across the board out of any meditation that we do is the coherence
meditation that we do is the coherence ceilings. When people are healing other
ceilings. When people are healing other people both in the healers that are
people both in the healers that are administering the healing
administering the healing >> ones that are giving the healing
>> ones that are giving the healing >> they're their biology is changing
>> they're their biology is changing dramatically their heart's changing
dramatically their heart's changing dramatically in fact their HRV their
dramatically in fact their HRV their heart rate variability after the event
heart rate variability after the event after those three coherent ceilings
after those three coherent ceilings continues to go up they just it's a big
continues to go up they just it's a big event for them it's a strong emotion and
event for them it's a strong emotion and and their heart just somehow blooms
and their heart just somehow blooms right so so we see the the most dramatic
right so so we see the the most dramatic biological changes in both the healers
biological changes in both the healers and the heales
and the heales Because there's an energy that takes
Because there's an energy that takes place in the room that is transcendent
place in the room that is transcendent of anything. Now, in order for that to
of anything. Now, in order for that to happen,
happen, love and logistics. We got to get
love and logistics. We got to get everything lined up.
everything lined up. >> So true.
>> So true. >> We got to get everything lined up. I got
>> We got to get everything lined up. I got to get everybody on time. I got to get
to get everybody on time. I got to get everybody in the right place,
everybody in the right place, >> trained up for a week, ready to go.
>> trained up for a week, ready to go. >> Ready to go. This isn't about them. This
>> Ready to go. This isn't about them. This is about somebody else. This is about
is about somebody else. This is about somebody else's life. Yeah.
somebody else's life. Yeah. >> So, I can do that. we can get a group
>> So, I can do that. we can get a group pretty intentional and pretty focused
pretty intentional and pretty focused and they come through music's playing
and they come through music's playing and they're in they're in the great
and they're in they're in the great state and they're they're about ready to
state and they're they're about ready to love another person in life, you know.
love another person in life, you know. So, so they're there's not a lot of
So, so they're there's not a lot of separation between the thought and the
separation between the thought and the act. They're very focused and you get
act. They're very focused and you get this kind of reverence taking place in
this kind of reverence taking place in the room and the energy is building.
the room and the energy is building. When I walk into the room and
When I walk into the room and everything's synchronized like that, the
everything's synchronized like that, the hair on my body stands straight up like
hair on my body stands straight up like everywhere on my body I feel like
everywhere on my body I feel like electrostatic. It's very real, right? I
electrostatic. It's very real, right? I don't talk about this much, but when
don't talk about this much, but when that happens, I know lightning is going
that happens, I know lightning is going to strike. I know somebody I know that
to strike. I know somebody I know that people are going to have a really
people are going to have a really profound moment, whoever's laying down
profound moment, whoever's laying down there, right? It's going to be big. So,
there, right? It's going to be big. So, so these machines, we place them all
so these machines, we place them all around the room and it would be like
around the room and it would be like >> a coin toss generator like but zeros and
>> a coin toss generator like but zeros and ones. Yes.
ones. Yes. >> And it won't be 0 1 0 1 0 1. It may be 0
>> And it won't be 0 1 0 1 0 1. It may be 0 0 1 1 0 1 1.
0 1 1 0 1 1. >> It's supposed to be a 50/50. nobody's in
>> It's supposed to be a 50/50. nobody's in the room. The more you flip the coin,
the room. The more you flip the coin, the more it's 50/50, right? So, at the
the more it's 50/50, right? So, at the end of, you know, a period of time when
end of, you know, a period of time when no one's in the room, you see the the
no one's in the room, you see the the main line like this, the horizontal
main line like this, the horizontal line, and it just kind of goes up and
line, and it just kind of goes up and down, but it stays like 50/50.
down, but it stays like 50/50. >> After 100 coin tosses, it's or whatever
>> After 100 coin tosses, it's or whatever thousands of thousands.
thousands of thousands. >> It's still 50/50.
>> It's still 50/50. >> Still 50/50. Okay. And then there's this
>> Still 50/50. Okay. And then there's this little kind of graph that goes like call
little kind of graph that goes like call the parabola, right? And that's kind of
the parabola, right? And that's kind of the the normal range there. So then all
the the normal range there. So then all of a sudden they hear it is normal and
of a sudden they hear it is normal and then enter the coherence healers and the
then enter the coherence healers and the energy room changes all of a sudden
energy room changes all of a sudden going 1 0 1 0. Then they get in the
going 1 0 1 0. Then they get in the state all of a sudden it goes 1 1 1 1 0
state all of a sudden it goes 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 then it goes like this and
1 1 1 0 0 1 1 then it goes like this and it goes one11 it goes really high when
it goes one11 it goes really high when >> so fascinating. So the random machine
>> so fascinating. So the random machine that's been programmed programmed to
that's been programmed programmed to throw ones and zeros 50/50 is no longer
throw ones and zeros 50/50 is no longer behaving randomly in some level. It's
behaving randomly in some level. It's behaving more orderly and as collective
behaving more orderly and as collective networks of observers that determine
networks of observers that determine reality.
reality. >> So then we take one of those random
>> So then we take one of those random event generators and we insulate it with
event generators and we insulate it with a Faraday cage, copper and nickel. It's
a Faraday cage, copper and nickel. It's what it's what insulates
what it's what insulates electromagnetism. You go to dentist,
electromagnetism. You go to dentist, >> you're like, "Okay, we're influencing
>> you're like, "Okay, we're influencing this thing." So, you put a you put a a
this thing." So, you put a you put a a lead apron on or you get an X-ray or
lead apron on or you get an X-ray or something.
something. >> Blocks the X-ray. Right. So, when we
>> Blocks the X-ray. Right. So, when we wrap these this one in uh in metal
wrap these this one in uh in metal fabric,
fabric, >> don't tell me it still works.
>> don't tell me it still works. >> No, in fact, it doesn't work, which
>> No, in fact, it doesn't work, which means that we know that it's
means that we know that it's electromagnetism.
electromagnetism. >> Wait a minute. So, you mean it's going
>> Wait a minute. So, you mean it's going through that still? So when we insulate
through that still? So when we insulate it, right, all the other ones are
it, right, all the other ones are behaving like this, but this one is
behaving like this, but this one is behaving normally when we wrap it in the
behaving normally when we wrap it in the fabric, which means that there's some
fabric, which means that there's some element of electromagnetism just like an
element of electromagnetism just like an X-ray that's that's it's being shielded
X-ray that's that's it's being shielded from. Right? So heart is the magnetic
from. Right? So heart is the magnetic charge and the brain is the electrical
charge and the brain is the electrical charge. Get a coherent brain, a coherent
charge. Get a coherent brain, a coherent heart, you got an electromagnetic field.
heart, you got an electromagnetic field. Right? So we we we're curious. We can't
Right? So we we we're curious. We can't say this with certainty, but there's
say this with certainty, but there's early evidence to suggest that it is an
early evidence to suggest that it is an electromagnetic field, right?
electromagnetic field, right? >> Crazy.
>> Crazy. >> It's crazy. I know it's this is what
>> It's crazy. I know it's this is what keeps us up at night, you know? So, so
keeps us up at night, you know? So, so now, you know, the scientists don't like
now, you know, the scientists don't like to talk about this because it's it's
to talk about this because it's it's we're transcending the material
we're transcending the material paradigm, right? But so now we have to
paradigm, right? But so now we have to call in quantum physicists now and
call in quantum physicists now and we're, you know, the next level. We're
we're, you know, the next level. We're going to the next level because we have
going to the next level because we have to be able to stage the experiment on a
to be able to stage the experiment on a next level to see what kind of non-local
next level to see what kind of non-local effects are taking place. It's just
effects are taking place. It's just insane.
insane. >> And for those who have no clue what
>> And for those who have no clue what we're talking about, go there to the
we're talking about, go there to the event to experience this. Again, this is
event to experience this. Again, this is the coherent healing you guys call it,
the coherent healing you guys call it, right? Is that what it's called? And
right? Is that what it's called? And this is on the last day of the event.
this is on the last day of the event. So,
So, >> last three days.
>> last three days. >> Last three days. You're going to be
>> Last three days. You're going to be trained through meditation. Well, before
trained through meditation. Well, before you go, you have to go through a
you go, you have to go through a prerequisite course actually online. So,
prerequisite course actually online. So, you don't go show up and be like, "What
you don't go show up and be like, "What is he talking about?" So, you're going
is he talking about?" So, you're going to get educated and trained with an
to get educated and trained with an online course when you sign up for the
online course when you sign up for the advanced retreat uh as a requirement to
advanced retreat uh as a requirement to get there so that you're up to speed and
get there so that you're up to speed and not this beginner. I have no clue what
not this beginner. I have no clue what to do.
to do. >> So, that you can be up to speed in the
>> So, that you can be up to speed in the room. And it is a powerful experience.
room. And it is a powerful experience. One, because you don't have your phone
One, because you don't have your phone with you. You leave your phone in the
with you. You leave your phone in the hotel. Just doing that for a week is
hotel. Just doing that for a week is >> healing for your brain to have
>> healing for your brain to have separation. Right
separation. Right >> now you're around thousands of people
>> now you're around thousands of people who are all living in love.
who are all living in love. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Thinking in love, feeling in love,
>> Thinking in love, feeling in love, living in love, and living in a future,
living in love, and living in a future, bringing that future now and saying,
bringing that future now and saying, "I'm creating a new personality right
"I'm creating a new personality right now, leaving the past behind
now, leaving the past behind and loving themselves and loving the
and loving themselves and loving the room, the energy of the room." And so
room, the energy of the room." And so when these coherent healings happen,
when these coherent healings happen, there's something I get chills thinking
there's something I get chills thinking about. Just literally thought about it
about. Just literally thought about it and I got the chills. There's something
and I got the chills. There's something is happening when you create love in
is happening when you create love in your body for 5 days
your body for 5 days >> and put it on another human being
>> and put it on another human being spiritually. Yeah.
spiritually. Yeah. >> Around them. You're not touching anyone,
>> Around them. You're not touching anyone, but you're energetically sending the
but you're energetically sending the signal of love and healing and wholeness
signal of love and healing and wholeness to a human being. There's a group of you
to a human being. There's a group of you doing this for one human being.
doing this for one human being. >> It is a profound experience.
>> It is a profound experience. >> Very profound. We have we bring in
>> Very profound. We have we bring in children that have been abused, all
children that have been abused, all kinds of abuse. We bring in children
kinds of abuse. We bring in children with with autism.
with with autism. >> We have the most incredible changes
>> We have the most incredible changes happening with these kids.
happening with these kids. >> I mean, we're we're studying our we're
>> I mean, we're we're studying our we're studying our outcomes right now. We're
studying our outcomes right now. We're like at about
like at about >> 38% of the people that we we we heal
>> 38% of the people that we we we heal have an 8 n or 10 out of 10 change in
have an 8 n or 10 out of 10 change in their body in terms of their health. No
their body in terms of their health. No doubt that pain levels go down. No doubt
doubt that pain levels go down. No doubt that their um their energy levels go up.
that their um their energy levels go up. And now we're doing a model where we're
And now we're doing a model where we're just taking out the placebo where we're
just taking out the placebo where we're putting cells in the petri dish in an
putting cells in the petri dish in an incubator and that have that are cancer
incubator and that have that are cancer cells and we see that when people who
cells and we see that when people who just have the intention for the cancer
just have the intention for the cancer cells, the same thing happens with the
cells, the same thing happens with the mitochondrial function as advanced
mitochondrial function as advanced meditators,
meditators, >> there's a non-local response that
>> there's a non-local response that diminishes mitochondrial function in
diminishes mitochondrial function in cancer cells, right? So, it's just kind
cancer cells, right? So, it's just kind of this crazy kind of investigation. But
of this crazy kind of investigation. But but the the 7-day event is a very
but the the 7-day event is a very immersive experience. We have people we
immersive experience. We have people we have kids that are 8 years old that go
have kids that are 8 years old that go through the whole entire thing. We have
through the whole entire thing. We have people in their 90s that go through the
people in their 90s that go through the whole entire week. And so we want people
whole entire week. And so we want people to come together. We're going to give
to come together. We're going to give them information. It's not enough to
them information. It's not enough to just learn the information. They got to
just learn the information. They got to remember it. So they got to teach it
remember it. So they got to teach it back to one another. They got to build
back to one another. They got to build models. And then once the information is
models. And then once the information is wired in their brain, they understand
wired in their brain, they understand what they're doing and why they're doing
what they're doing and why they're doing it. the how can get easier and they can
it. the how can get easier and they can assign meaning to to to the act right
assign meaning to to to the act right and when you assign meaning to the act
and when you assign meaning to the act you switch on your frontal lobe and it
you switch on your frontal lobe and it wants an outcome that's called intention
wants an outcome that's called intention it says I understand what I'm doing I
it says I understand what I'm doing I want to do this to get this outcome
want to do this to get this outcome >> yes
>> yes >> if it's left the conjecture superstition
>> if it's left the conjecture superstition or dogma then or spirituality people
or dogma then or spirituality people will doubt right so they got to really
will doubt right so they got to really wire it in their brain they really
wire it in their brain they really understand it so they got to get that
understand it so they got to get that all worked out in their think box they
all worked out in their think box they got to understand then we go right into
got to understand then we go right into the application the personalization the
the application the personalization the demonstration the initiation of that
demonstration the initiation of that philosophy of that theory into the
philosophy of that theory into the practicum, right? Yes.
practicum, right? Yes. >> And if you do that really well, you have
>> And if you do that really well, you have the experience. You you have the
the experience. You you have the experience and when you experience it,
experience and when you experience it, you experience the truth of that
you experience the truth of that philosophy and it changes you
philosophy and it changes you biologically, right? Keep doing it and
biologically, right? Keep doing it and the immersive experience over 7 days.
the immersive experience over 7 days. Fully immersive experience causes you to
Fully immersive experience causes you to start feeling very differently than when
start feeling very differently than when when you arrived. And and and the the
when you arrived. And and and the the takeaway is
takeaway is >> I just asked the audience this just two
>> I just asked the audience this just two days ago or four days ago.
days ago or four days ago. who's three days ago. Who's making you
who's three days ago. Who's making you happy? There's nobody making you happy
happy? There's nobody making you happy but you. Like you're you've sat with
but you. Like you're you've sat with yourself long enough that you've gotten
yourself long enough that you've gotten beyond all those programs like and and
beyond all those programs like and and now you you have an awareness like I'm
now you you have an awareness like I'm not letting that thought through ever
not letting that thought through ever again. And you have an awareness. You
again. And you have an awareness. You can sense when the emotions coming up
can sense when the emotions coming up and you can regulate that. Like there's
and you can regulate that. Like there's more mastery uh over your attention and
more mastery uh over your attention and your energy. So we we have all we have
your energy. So we we have all we have typically like 80 to 85 countries from
typically like 80 to 85 countries from around the world. If we do Mexico
around the world. If we do Mexico sometimes it's more like 90.
sometimes it's more like 90. >> It's beautiful.
>> It's beautiful. >> Um and again all demographics, all ages,
>> Um and again all demographics, all ages, you know, it's it's a beautiful to
you know, it's it's a beautiful to experience but all all having the
experience but all all having the language of love unifying them. Two
language of love unifying them. Two final questions for you Dr. Joe before I
final questions for you Dr. Joe before I ask them. I want to remind people again
ask them. I want to remind people again go to drispensza.com
go to drispensza.com Instagram dr.jispensza. Dr. Jispensz
Instagram dr.jispensza. Dr. Jispensz everywhere, social media, Dr. Jodispensz
everywhere, social media, Dr. Jodispensz as well. Sign up for the retreat if you
as well. Sign up for the retreat if you can. I'm telling you, um I wish I went
can. I'm telling you, um I wish I went sooner and I get people messaging me all
sooner and I get people messaging me all the time saying, "Can you introduce me
the time saying, "Can you introduce me to Dr. Joe? The tickets are sold out. I
to Dr. Joe? The tickets are sold out. I need to send my friends there. You know,
need to send my friends there. You know, how do I get a ticket?" Get a ticket. Uh
how do I get a ticket?" Get a ticket. Uh there's one in Nashville happening
there's one in Nashville happening September 14th through the 20th and one
September 14th through the 20th and one in Orlando happening October 26th
in Orlando happening October 26th through November 1st. We'll link it up
through November 1st. We'll link it up as well for you, but make sure you get a
as well for you, but make sure you get a ticket. Get one for a friend if they
ticket. Get one for a friend if they have them available. And
have them available. And uh I have listened, you know, you were
uh I have listened, you know, you were saying beforehand, hey, what do you want
saying beforehand, hey, what do you want to cover today? And I said, exactly what
to cover today? And I said, exactly what you just said. We need to be reminded
you just said. We need to be reminded and hearing these same things over and
and hearing these same things over and over again so that we remember them and
over again so that we remember them and then we can apply them consistently so
then we can apply them consistently so we're not thinking. And and so I was
we're not thinking. And and so I was like, I want you to cover a lot of the
like, I want you to cover a lot of the things we've already talked about over
things we've already talked about over seven or eight years of doing interviews
seven or eight years of doing interviews because I need the reminder even though
because I need the reminder even though I've listen.
I've listen. >> Exactly. And even though I've listened
>> Exactly. And even though I've listened to your morning meditation,
to your morning meditation, >> which I think is 10 years old. I think
>> which I think is 10 years old. I think you launched it in 2015, I think, when I
you launched it in 2015, I think, when I should watch new. But
should watch new. But >> I'll get it to you.
>> I'll get it to you. >> The old one, I've listened to it on
>> The old one, I've listened to it on repeat so many times. The morning and
repeat so many times. The morning and the evening routine one, and I've heard
the evening routine one, and I've heard the intro to it so many times, and I'm
the intro to it so many times, and I'm like, I wish I had it memorized. I have
like, I wish I had it memorized. I have parts of it memorized, but I'm like I
parts of it memorized, but I'm like I need the reminder constantly so I can
need the reminder constantly so I can live in the reminder daily
live in the reminder daily >> because because you're not programmed.
>> because because you're not programmed. You got to that's you're we're
You got to that's you're we're programmed into something else. So
programmed into something else. So >> So it's so much easier to forget it than
>> So it's so much easier to forget it than to remember it. Right. So that and so
to remember it. Right. So that and so here's I think that just just to make
here's I think that just just to make one point around that
one point around that >> that's why I think knowledge is so
>> that's why I think knowledge is so important.
important. >> I mean if knowledge is power, knowledge
>> I mean if knowledge is power, knowledge about yourself is self-empowerment. So
about yourself is self-empowerment. So combine quantum physics with
combine quantum physics with neuroscience and neuroendocrinology and
neuroscience and neuroendocrinology and psychonuroimmunology, the mind body
psychonuroimmunology, the mind body connection and epigenetics and
connection and epigenetics and electromagnetism and atonian physics.
electromagnetism and atonian physics. Combine all those models together. So
Combine all those models together. So that you got to remember like this is
that you got to remember like this is why I'm doing it, right? So so it's so
why I'm doing it, right? So so it's so when when you lose the luster in your
when when you lose the luster in your meditations and it just becomes another
meditations and it just becomes another routine, it's just cuz you forgot what
routine, it's just cuz you forgot what you're doing and why you're doing it. Go
you're doing and why you're doing it. Go back and learn. Go back and study. go
back and learn. Go back and study. go back and think it many people we've had
back and think it many people we've had so many people that show up to a
so many people that show up to a week-long retreat especially in the last
week-long retreat especially in the last two years they never even came to a
two years they never even came to a week-long event and they healed
week-long event and they healed themselves
themselves >> they just read the book they started
>> they just read the book they started doing the meditations and they kept
doing the meditations and they kept reading kept studying kept reading it
reading kept studying kept reading it again okay if I do this and I do this
again okay if I do this and I do this and this will happen okay I'm going to
and this will happen okay I'm going to keep doing this so
keep doing this so then the the factor that gives the gives
then the the factor that gives the gives the the the real emphasis for it to
the the the real emphasis for it to become a reality is just really
become a reality is just really reminding ourselves the the the
reminding ourselves the the the knowledge behind we have to really think
knowledge behind we have to really think about really really think about what
about really really think about what we're what we're doing and and it takes
we're what we're doing and and it takes to renew it is to study it and that's
to renew it is to study it and that's when you know that's when you get the
when you know that's when you get the greatest outcomes
greatest outcomes >> constantly studying it. Um two final
>> constantly studying it. Um two final questions for you before I ask them. I
questions for you before I ask them. I want to acknowledge you again Dr. Joe
want to acknowledge you again Dr. Joe for always showing up and giving your
for always showing up and giving your full heart and all your wisdom for being
full heart and all your wisdom for being a leader in this space and innovating
a leader in this space and innovating even when the critics were constantly
even when the critics were constantly criticizing you for years of
criticizing you for years of pseudocience or whatever people would
pseudocience or whatever people would say. Now you have the research, now you
say. Now you have the research, now you have the backing, the real life
have the backing, the real life experiences, the healings. So I just
experiences, the healings. So I just want to continue to acknowledge you for
want to continue to acknowledge you for constantly leading the way in this world
constantly leading the way in this world of transformation. when there's a lot of
of transformation. when there's a lot of people in this space, you are a unique
people in this space, you are a unique leader and I acknowledge and appreciate
leader and I acknowledge and appreciate you for that always and I'm always
you for that always and I'm always grateful for your friendship and getting
grateful for your friendship and getting to experience the event after you
to experience the event after you finally pulled it away from me and I
finally pulled it away from me and I finally showed up to the event. So
finally showed up to the event. So grateful for all these things and I just
grateful for all these things and I just >> appreciate you and I really hope people
>> appreciate you and I really hope people go to the experience. Um, if you could
go to the experience. Um, if you could remember the future for a moment, this
remember the future for a moment, this is my second to last question. If you
is my second to last question. If you could remember the future 10 years out,
could remember the future 10 years out, 2035,
2035, what is the one piece of advice yourself
what is the one piece of advice yourself in 10 years would tell you now? I
in 10 years would tell you now? I probably I probably say that there's
probably I probably say that there's goodness in human beings when they're
goodness in human beings when they're not living in survival and that
not living in survival and that community is the future to to keep
community is the future to to keep nourishing the community. Keep
nourishing the community. Keep nourishing the community cuz because I
nourishing the community cuz because I think that like Fuller said this, you
think that like Fuller said this, you don't you don't try to change a culture.
don't you don't try to change a culture. You just create something better and
You just create something better and then everybody leaves there and goes
then everybody leaves there and goes here, right? So, uh, I'm going to I'm
here, right? So, uh, I'm going to I'm going to do my best to to keep
going to do my best to to keep demystifying the process, but the guy 10
demystifying the process, but the guy 10 years ahead would probably hopefully say
years ahead would probably hopefully say that was a great ride and if we changed
that was a great ride and if we changed enough people's lives, it was worth the
enough people's lives, it was worth the effort.
effort. >> That's beautiful. Final question. You've
>> That's beautiful. Final question. You've you've answered this before, but I'm
you've answered this before, but I'm curious if it's different now. What is
curious if it's different now. What is your definition of of greatness? When we
your definition of of greatness? When we face the adversity
face the adversity in our life, the challenges in our life
in our life, the challenges in our life from a greater level of consciousness
from a greater level of consciousness and be able to execute it in a way that
and be able to execute it in a way that produces change without compromising our
produces change without compromising our vitality.
vitality. >> Benza, appreciate you, my man. Thank
>> Benza, appreciate you, my man. Thank you, brother. dealing with the matter of
you, brother. dealing with the matter of your life.
your life. When you choose to create authentic
When you choose to create authentic power to challenge a frightened part of
power to challenge a frightened part of your personality that wants to be right,
your personality that wants to be right, that wants to control, that wants money,
that wants to control, that wants money, sex, love, whatever it is, you are
sex, love, whatever it is, you are enabling yourself to 38.
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