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This content is a detailed chapter-by-chapter review and analysis of "A Dance with Dragons," the fifth book in George R.R. Martin's "A Song of Ice and Fire" series. It delves into the strengths and weaknesses of each point-of-view character's arc, highlighting plot developments, character growth, and thematic elements.
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I just want to say before this video
starts, thank you for everybody that's
watched these or watched even any of the
parts of this, but this is a full
review. It has every part, my full
coverage on Advanced Dragons starting
from chapter 1 all the way to the end of
the book, my review, my ranking of the
POVs. I hope you guys all enjoy. Um,
this was a long project. It took me a
long time to get this fully done, and I
hope you guys all enjoy it. So, I'll see
you guys maybe in another retrospective
or maybe not. Maybe we won't do it. I
know the series wasn't viewed the best,
but again, enjoy the video, guys.
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>> A dance of dragons came out on July
12th, 2011, about 6 years after the
release of A Feast for Crows and 11
years past A Storm of Swords. So, in a
lot of regards, we had not seen
characters like Daenerys, Jon Snow,
Tyrion, Davos, Bran, a lot of our major
characters that we had come to love for
11 years. And when you put that into
context, think about it like this. Us
Waiting for Winds of Winter right now is
a comparative length of time of reading
those certain characters, right? So,
again, it's a bit different because
Feast for Crows came in that time. So,
we still had a Song of Empire content,
but your favorite character more than
likely probably was not in the last
book. So, you hadn't actually seen your
best characters, your favorite
characters in a very long time at this
point when this book was coming out. So,
let's also think about it from this
point of view. And so, I want you guys
to think about this if you are a Song of
Ice and Fire fan. within a couple months
of each other during the first season of
A Game of Thrones as it would premiere
on April 17th, 2011 and would broadcast
the entire first season getting to the
release of A Dance with Dragons. So, A
Dance with Dragons in a lot of ways was
on a high, right? Because people were
reinvigorated to get back into their
favorite characters, but also Game of
Thrones its popularity. Now, it it
wouldn't reach its popularity in the
first season, but it would garner a lot
of that interest back. The first season
is by loved by many people. It's one of
the best seasons of the show, and so it
really would have drawn all those fans
that were still waiting for the series
right back into this series. And so, A
Dance with Dragons had a lot of hype
around it in my opinion. Now, was I
someone that was reading this book in
2011? No. I was 11 years old, so I would
not have been reading this when it came
out. But I want to think about it from
this point of view of Danny, Tyrion,
John are back. Three main characters are
back. Game of Thrones season 1 has just
come out along with the rest of the
series that's going to be coming out as
well. It was wellreceived the first
season in this regard. Everything was
looking really up. And so we get into a
Danced Dragons and that leads us to does
this book pay that off, right? Is this a
good book? Is this a bad book? What is
this book? And when we get into this
retrospective, I'm going to talk about
it in a lot of ways. This book has a lot
of ups. It has a lot of downs, right?
It's almost the polar opposite of A
Feast for Crows in its structure. A
Feast for Crows has a lot more more
minor characters. It has a lot more of
the plot lines in the background that
were happening almost offscreen or
building up to offscreen and a Storm of
Swords and then they kind of explode in
A Feast for Crows. There's a lot of
reactionary things that happen because
of things that happen in Storm of
Swords. A dance with dragons is almost
no different. But think about the
comparison between A Dance of Dragons
and Winds of Winter. The beginning of
this story and A Dance with Dragons is
going to be a lot about reminding the
audience what happened, right? It's been
11 years since we've touched a lot of
these plots. But that'll get us into the
first chapter of the book with Vamir.
Now, I will say right away, I think of
the five openings of the main books,
this is my least favorite. It is a lot
of And why I say that is because in my
opinion, it does the least in terms of
the entire world. Like when you look at
Pate, Pate is a really interesting POV
into our first look at Oldtown. He is
going to connect to a bunch of different
plot lines, whether that be Ario,
whether that be Sam, whether that
connects to future stuff with like
Marwin and things like that. He also
gives us kind of a fresh perspective,
the common person and how the corruption
of this world works, which I find very
interesting. And also going on that
really awesome idea of the heart and
conflict. This is not that. This is very
much a POV that is focused solely on
really one uh plot line in this book.
You could argue too, but I would say
it's it's really just for Bran. And this
is a very interesting way to start out a
book. If you look at all of the main
POVs that people do not like, Bran is by
far the least entertaining POV I think
for most people. And so starting out a
POV with or starting out the book with a
POV that is directly correlating with Bran
Bran
is interesting. And so to me, I don't
like it too much because it's just
straight up it's it's Warging, right?
How does Wargging work in this world
from somebody that's other than Bran? We
haven't seen Wargan too much in this
world when it comes to how does it work?
What is its powers? What are the rules
to it? And so a lot of this is setting
up Bran. It really think makes us think
about Bran quite a lot and how we think
about the character because when you
think about what you shouldn't be doing,
right, as your animal, it really relates
to Bran because we've seen Bran take the
mind of another human in Hodor. That's a
big no no. We're going to see Bran
eating a man's flesh through a wolf.
Kind of a no no once again. So there's a
lot of nos that we're seeing through
Bran. So this chapter makes us in a lot
of ways recontextualize the way we think
about a character like Bran. But let me
talk about a little bit of brief summary
of what happens in the chapter. So we're
introduced into this character of Vamir
who is a skin changer like Bran but just
a very powerful one. And he is fleeing
the battle of the wall. This is taken up
directly after um Stannis had come
through and won the battle for the wall.
And we see the rest of the wildlings
that had survived and how they were
falling back. Some were going to the
east and some were just dying off.
Right? These are a people that you're
struggling to find food, struggling to
find warmth. And it's a lot about this
desperation Vimir trying to live on. And
it's seeing that again the others are
still a huge threat north of the wall
and really establishing why the
wildlings came south to kind of begin
with. And again, personally, it's just a
it's almost a reminder chapter for the
John plot line, but it's a big plot.
It's a big POV to set up Bran, and it
does it pretty well. Like I I won't say
like this chapter does well for what
it's trying to do. I just don't like
what it's really trying to do that much.
I think there's a lot of other POVs that
would have been more interesting to
start this book with other than Vamir.
And so, to me personally, I was not a
big fan to the way this book starts.
Now, I will say another thing I want to
mention here because when I looked at A
Feast for Crows, I think George R.
Martin took a step back and realized
some of the issues people had with A
Feast for Crows. Because one of the
things I talked about with A Feast for
Crows that's so different than this book
is going to be is A Feast for Crows,
George R. Martin takes a lot of leaps.
He kind of frontloads a lot of the newer
plots, right? the Greyjoy plot and the
Martell plot are almost completely
frontloaded into the first half of the
book. And so when you look at that book,
the way it starts, it's, you know, you
have Pate, you have, I think it's Aeron
is second, and then Ario. You have
three, you know, newer POVs. POVs people
are just not going to care as much about
until you get to Cersei, who is chapter
4. This book does not do that. This book
jumps right into the characters that
people were wanting to read. And it
starts in probably the best way. I think
everyone wanted to see what Tyrion was
going to be up to after that stuff that
happens in Storm of Swords. How is he
going to be affected as a character?
What is his plot going to be looking
like as the story goes forward? And so
we get to Tyrion 1 as the second chapter
of the book. And I think Preston Jacobs
sums up this chapter perfectly. In a lot
of ways, it is just a catch-up chapter
trying to remind us what happened in the
last book and now catching that up to
how is that affecting Tyrion? Now, we've
see Tyrion as this character that's he's
defeated in a lot of ways. He's gone
straight to alcoholism. He is
questioning if he even wants to be alive
at this point of the story. It's a
really interesting psychological dive
into what Tyrion is going to experience
in this chapter. And Tyrion is a
character that I think is a tale of two stories.
stories.
I think I really like him in the first
half of the book and the second half of
the book he's not so good. I like Tyrion
when he's interacting with characters
that are interesting to the story that
can either outwit Tyrion or make Tyrion
use his wits or have some bigger
relevance to the plot. And so seeing
Tyrion try to figure out what Yo
Mopatis' motivations are is quite
interesting because we as the readers
also don't know what Yo's motivations
are. Again, remember the last time we
really see Yo is in the first book with Arya.
Arya.
And so we've heard about Ayio here and
there, right? We know that Barristan was
sent to Dany through the help of Yo, but
we don't know what game is playing at
this point, right? Because the plan
doesn't really go well, right? The
Dothraki are supposed to come over with
the Targaryenss and start a war, right?
But that is kind of up for suspicion
here in this chapter. It's already
brought up like why is Yo helping Dany
and it just isn't for profits and Tyrion
kind of notices that. So, I like the
back and forth between the two
characters, but again, this chapter is
pretty dark. It's a lot of Tyrion
dealing with his trauma, drinking
himself nearly to death, and being as
pessimistic and awful as possible.
Whether that's interacting with T uh
Yo's servants, whether that's
interacting with Yo as well, whether
that's Tyrion interacting with himself,
the way he kind of beats him up or
things like that. All of this makes
perfect sense into the psychology of
Tyrion. And I know a lot of people have
a issue with the way Tyrion is in this
book, but it's completely natural. It's
the way Tyrion should be as a character.
And so that old Tyrion, which again was
still Tyrion, right? Tyrion is still
Tyrion. It's just because of the events
that have happened, he has leaned into
that darker side of Tyrion that's always
been there. Alt Shift, Alt Shift X makes
a really good video on the real Tyrion
Lannister. And one of the things he
really talks about that is he looks back
at a lot of the moments of especially A
Clash of Kings and some of the things
that Tyrion did that were quite awful.
Whereas us the audience were rooting for
Tyrion but they are quite awful things.
He leans into more of those things
especially in this book.
Again I I noted here that I think a lot
of people dread Tyrion in some of his
earlier chapters because it is a lot of
a recap. I personally really do enjoy
Tyrion 1 and two and even again I like
Tyrion really from here all to the young
griff stuff and so I don't have a really
a big problem with Tyrion at this part
of the um book. I also do like again him
playing the game of thrones with yo and
also I also like the reveal at the end
of Tyrion going to Danny which again was
obvious like I feel like anyone real
reading Tyrion or even let's go back in
time let's say after Storm of Swords
there was you know YouTube wasn't really
a big thing then but if there was I
think if people would have been making
prediction videos it would have been
obvious that Tyrion was going to help
Dany that would have been an obvious
prediction so this isn't like this huge
big reveal but it is something that
George needed to establish, right? Give
Tyrion that focus, right? The big
focuses of this book for Tyrion are
going to be getting to Dany and two, his
character, right? Is he going to lean
further further into that darker side of
Tyrion or will he find some sort of
atonement? Will he find some sort of uh
higher purpose to bring him out of that
state? And that's really what Tyrion 1
is all about. Again,
that gets us into the third chapter of
the book, Danny One. So, again, Danny 1
is another one of these chapters that
it's really a lot of a catch-up. But I
will say this just really goes to prove
that George does listen to feedback. He
does understand what things people don't
like in previous books and is willing to
adjust accordingly. Because think about
it, the first four chapters of this book
are Vamir, which again, it's the first
chapter of the book. you knew it was
going to be a different POV, right? So,
you give him a pass there. But then 2,
three, and four are Tyrion, Danny, and
John. The three POVs everybody wanted to
see. And so, I think that is not a
coincidence. George understood what he
wanted to do. And I want to get this out
of the way right away because very
similar to Tyrion, is that Dany has a
stigma, especially for this book, that
she's just pretty meh in this book. And
I can see where that is coming from. But
personally, I do like Dany in this book.
I I think she goes on a different
journey and puts her and George puts her
in a very uncomfortable situation.
Whereas Dany her whole life after book
one has kind of been this conqueror,
this person that is trying to gain
power, then to go to Westeros. And we
have this big reveal in book three that
she's not going to do that, right? She's
going to try and rule. And so she's
going to struggle with that. She's never
ruled anything before. Even back in, you
know, book one or book two or these
things, she's not exactly ruling over a
place, right? The Dothraki, yes, she has
some sway over Drogo, but she's not the
person in charge of everyone, right?
That is still Drogo. Here, it is her.
She is the one making the decision. She
is the one that if the society fails,
it's on her. And so, she's dealing with
a lot of different things. And so George
sets this up all perfectly in this first
chapter because we have to see what is
Danny's goal of this book. What is
George going to do in this book for the
character? And so we have first we have
the sons of the harpy creating issues
for Dany. And this is very interesting
right away because in the past Dany has
gone against other forces, right, in
battles and sieges, but she's never
fought a war of of a shadow war more or
less of people being killed in the
streets. How do you find these people?
What motivates people to give you
information to track them down and kill
them or imprison them? Danny has never
had to deal with that. And that's gonna
be something that's very relevant to
this book for her as a character. But
again, we see that an unsullied man has
been killed. It is interesting because
we see that Dean's rule is far from
secure and establishes right away the
central theme of her arc. How to rule
something that she has not really done
before, right? How is she going to deal
with different personalities like
Resnack and the Shave Page? How is she
going to deal with a culture that's very
different from her own? We have seen her
integrate into other cultures like the
Dothraki, but she's struggling with the
ways of the Marines. The Marines are
slaver people that was built upon their
roots or the the past, you know, hundred
years or so. How do you change an in an
entire society's culture in a blink of
an eye? How do you how do you do that,
right? Because if you even think about,
again, I'm American, so I like to
reference United States history quite a
lot. How do you go from a point of
slavery to everyone being free? How does
that work? How do you get groups of
people that have been against each other
for a long time to reconcile and
integrate into that culture? And we're
still seeing some of those divides even
now. But going into the story, think
about that. It's very difficult because
you have some people who might have had
a better life in slavery. Even though
slavery isn't evil, they themselves
benefited from slavery. Which is an
interesting dilemma for Danny to
overcome because Danny realizes, and us,
the audience, agree with Danny, that
slavery is bad. But what do you do when
someone tells you they would rather be
enslaved? It's an interesting dilemma
that Dany is going to have to go through
in this book. But what this chapter does
is set her up for the future. How is
Dany going to deal with personalities
like Varys and Littlefinger, things that
Robert had to do? This is really a lot
of that prelude to what Dany will have
to deal with in Westeros. And it's a lot
of kind of that training. It's it's a
building book for Dany. But we see her
sitting the throne giving advice to
multiple people or on issues like the
yung kai and the fighting pits and
eventually ends with Dy's worst fear,
her dragons killing a child. Again, this
is great because it plays exactly on
what Dany is going to have to overcome.
Outside of all the politics going on,
her trying to rule, she also has to deal
with her dragons. Her dragons are
getting bigger. They're growing more
fearless and violent. What does she do
with that? And we're not going to figure
out what she does instantly. Yeah,
that's going to come in the next
chapter. But it poses an interesting
question for Dany. Is she still in
control of them? Obviously not because
they've killed a child at this point.
Something that Danny's not really had to
worry about up to this point. She has to
now realize how dangerous they are. And
that is a really awesome way to build a
Danny's chapter. I think Danny's first
chapter is obviously better than Tyrion.
Her chapter is not as much a catch-up
chapter. It still is, but it kind of
gets right to the point. It really
focuses on exactly what her POV is going
to be about. Whether you like that or
you don't like what her POV is about in
this book, I like that George is direct
with this character and we understand
right away. There's no dillydallying
about what her POV is about. All right,
so getting into John one. John one I
think is very similar in a lot of ways
to Danny one. It's really about
exploring again what happened in the
past. So where are we at this point of
the story? But also, it's about just
establishing where this character of Jon
is going to be. Right? This chatter
follows Jon dealing with Stannis and the
issues of trying to please a king who
saved them while also trying to stay
neutral. Because again, if you're in the
Night's Watch at this point, you're in a
very precarious position. You don't want
to be seen as helping Stannis because of
Tywin and the Lannisters rule. That's
not a good look for you. You want to be
able to get as much aid from them as
possible. You're in a very sorry state.
So you have to deal with how do you
manage those different personalities. We
also see again a lot of this chapter
also focuses on Stannis. This is almost
a almost a like POV into Stannis as a
whole because we see that Stannis is
struggling to gain support in the north.
He has sent Davos to treat with White
Harbor. But again, if we go back to
Feast with Feast for Crows, we know that
that doesn't seem to have gone well or
at least something happened to where
Davos is presumed dead. So that is a
play that Stannis is trying to do. But
we also see that Stannis is not
garnering much support from the northern
houses as a whole as the Mormonts have
now recently turned him down and White
Harbor has gone silent. But Stannis also
talks on the fate of Mans and how he
will be burned which also Jon is not a
big fan of either. Jon has kind of come
to respect Mans quite a lot and burning
is not a good way to go. It's probably
one of the worst ways possible to go
out. It's not a painless death. It's you
are in pain for quite a while and then
die. And so Jon kind of sees this as a
stupid because you can use Mance in a
lot of ways to control the wildlings
more if he's alive than if he's dead.
And that's something that we even see
that I think even Mel realizes as well.
But at this point, that's not the case.
But Stannis wants to reinforce the
castles on the wall with his own men.
Again, Stannis is seeing this as the
Night's Watch has all these castles, but
none of them are manned. So, Stannis
thinks, "Okay, let's man these castles.
Let's get the wall to be strengthened."
But that runs into a problem because
these castles are not Stannis's to do
so, right? These are the Knights Watches
castles. They stay neutral. That is not
allowed. And John says that, right? He
refuses this, only allowing that his
officers be in charge. Stannis wants to
give him men. Fine, but he will have the
men that will be over them. And this
frustrates Stannis, right? Stannis in a
in a lot of ways. This is a frustrating
time, right? The North is not rallying
to him like he would have hoped. He is
not getting as much as he would require
from Jon as he would like after he
believes he saved them, which he did.
But he's again a very precarious
position for Jon. And this is going to
encompass a lot of the early part of the
story for Jon. How does he deal with
people like Stannis and Mel? But Mel
follows him and warns him of foes behind
his back and daggers in the dark and
quotes a line from Egret. He knows
nothing. Again, it's a great open
because in a lot of ways this chapter is
just a refresher for the Jon plot line
and the Stannis poem which will be heavy
focuses of this book, but it also kind
of is foroding for the future, right? We
already have this foreshadowing of Jon's
death. We see that Jon is someone that
is struggling to play politics to be a
leader and also getting this very
cryptic line of Mel knowing Egret's
famous line. All very interesting and
also kind of peels back some of that
wound that Jon still has for Egret.
Again, it's been quite recently she
died. So again, just something that
would be something that would get under
Jon's skin a little bit. But that gets
us into Bran one, chapter five.
Something I want to point out, Bran is a
character that I think we give a lot of
criticism towards. He's probably one of
the worst POVs of the entire story in my
opinion. But I will say his at least his
first two chapters in this book are
pretty good. I have them ranked pretty
nicely. I'm kind of doing it differently
this time than I did for Feast for Crows
where I'm ranking them as I read them.
So it's a little bit more fresher in my
mind on how I want to rank things
instead of ranking them all at the end
based on my summaries and what I can
remember from them. So try to make it a
little bit more fresh. But I really
enjoy this first chapter for Bran
because it adds a bit of tension to
their story because I feel like a lot of
the problem with Bran's chapters are
there's not a lot of conflict or there's
not a lot of tension. It just kind of
feels like we're wandering around. This
chapter is not that. This chapter is
focused. We need to get here, but how do
we get to the cave? We are struggling,
right? And again, it picks up on the
ideas of who is the three-eyed crow? Who
is Cold Hands? That's a lot of this
chapter's focus. When you look at my
video talking about who Cold Hands is, a
lot of that information comes from this
chapter specifically. A lot of this
chapter's focus is on who he is and he
is not of the living. But again, this
chapter is filled with intrigue and
mystery. This chapter almost directly
correlates with the Vamir open to the
story. And again, that's one of the
reasons why I don't like the Vamir one
because I feel like it's almost a
connection to one part of the story and
really none of the others. But it's
really apparent here because we see Bran
continuously going into Summer, taking
more and more time out of his body as
he's just being lugged around and not
much is happening while they wait for
Cold Hands to come back with food and
things like that. And we also get this
disturbing description of how Bran is
going into Hodor who does not like the
process. Again, it makes you question
Bran and it's a lot of foreshadowing to
maybe things that will come to the
future. But it's very weird that Bran is
going into Hodor's skin a lot. And
George even takes the time to describe
very similar to Vamir's first chapter,
how Hodor is very uncomfortable with
this process. And Bran is basically
overpowering Hodor's will and taking
over his body and mind. That is very
scary to think about. And if Bran grows
more powerful, what is that going to
have on the effects of the story? What
will he do with that? Again, people have
kind of thought up because of the show,
was Bran someone that went into other
people's minds. Was Blood Raven doing
this in the past? Was he going into
Aerys's mind? That's why he went insane.
Maybe he was trying to give him
warnings, but instead it was something
that drove him mad. That's all very
interesting to think about when you look
at the future of the book series, things
that we could look at going back to the
past and how that could possibly be
affecting the world. At this time, we
also see that Summer interacts and takes
over the pack that we saw in the
prologue of Wolves. So again, just Bran
asserting his will and dominance, which
is again very interesting to see as
well. But we see Bran and Summer's body
actually eating the Knights Watchmen.
And this is very key because in a lot of
ways Bran is once again doing something
he shouldn't be doing. He is eating man
flesh in his wolf's um body. That is not
good. That is cannibalism more or less
because eventually we also see that cold
hands comes back to the group saying he
slaughtered a pig which is highly
doubtful. Think about the way Vamir is
described as there's no food around in
the first chapter. We even our group
here they're not finding much food to
eat and you think about it and you go
wait a second there was just some people
that were killed. the wolves were eating
them and now all of a sudden it seems
that cold hands has found some food. So
it's very much led to led for us the
audience believe that yeah they probably
went to some cannibalism here. So Bran
again eating other humans not good and
so there's a lot of intrigue a lot of
things we can look to speculate on the
rest of the story but again really good
uh open chapter for or opening chapter
for Bran that I really do enjoy. That
gets us to number six or chapter six,
Tyrion 2. So, Tyrion 2 is definitely not
as good as Tyrion 1. I think there's
much more interesting stuff between the
two characters of Tyrion and Yo, whereas
this one, it's a lot more of a travel
chapter. It's more about giving us the
histories of Essos or where they are
specifically in Essos. It's more to
establish where Tyrion is going to be
going in the future. Again, it is
explained at this chapter that Tyrion
will travel with a man named Griff to
deliver him to Dany. Already, this kind
of seems fishy because Yria notes that
the Golden Company have broken a
contract. And we get a famous line here
that it doesn't matter what the dragon
is, red or black, as long as they can go
home and it's a dragon. That is a very
interesting line that does not seem to
add up with the history of the Golden
Company. And that already is going to
get the wheels kind of turning for us
the readers as to hm what is yo actually
up to because we're going to get more of
this in the third Tyrion chapter. But
that's very fascinating because we also
get more into Yo's backstory as well
here. But again, we get to in some
interesting lore about Essos and the
political climate. But the more
interesting points is about Yo and
Varys's past, how the two operated, how
they interacted. It really paints the
picture of why Varys has become the
person that he is. But we also get his
ex-lover in which Yrio still has her
hand. And could this be a Blackfire?
That would prove a lot of that would
make a lot of reasoning as to why young
Griff a would be a Blackfire and why
loves him so much. That's a really
interesting point. And this again Tyrion
connects with about his past in Taiisha.
Again, the two can connect on their
really flawed pass when it comes to
love. And that gets me to, I think,
probably my weakest chapter of the first
like 200 pages of the story. And I've
talked about this a lot. I'm not a
Quentyn guy. I just do not like this
character. I don't really feel like he
provides much to the story. I think if
he's a lot like Sam to me for a feast
for crows where I think if we just skip
Quentyn's journey and have him be
brought up when he meets Danny through
like Danny's POV that would be
completely acceptable. I I just don't
feel like this is needed. But let's talk
about what the first Quentyn chapter
does and maybe what things I just don't
really particularly like about this
storyline. This chapter is a main focus
on Quentin, who he is as a character.
And again, he has been keeping his
identity hidden and is on a mission to
reach Dany and marry her. Again, all of
this is self-explanatory. We already
knew this from the already chapters in
Feast for Crows. So, really, it's just
rebringing that to the table. As I know,
there are people that didn't like a lot
of the more minor plots like the Dornish
plot. And so, George wants to refresh
the reader onto what is going on here.
But to me, it's just like nothing
particularly interesting happens in this
chapter outside of okay, our crew with
Quentyn realize they're going to have to
become part of a cell sword company to
get to Dany because there's not really a
good way in which they can get to her
cuz Slaver's Bay at the moment is a very
dangerous place to travel to. We get
some interesting things here and there
that uh during their passage some of
their companions have already died. One
of them being a a maester which was very
detrimental to them. But they are again
struggling to find passage to marine
because of the war breaking out. They
are stuck in ver in Volantis for the
time being. Again they attempt to get
passage from a smuggler. But this seems
like a very bad idea as it seems like
they're being fooled and it's unlikely
to actually end well. But either way on
their way back from the docks they
encounter some windb blown looking for
recruits and the party realize this is
their only option to get to Dany. Again,
personally, I don't really care about
Quentyn. I don't find his character that
interesting. He's just another failed
love interest for Danny really. And I
think he his death, if he is dead, I
believe he is dead. Other people do not.
His death will have more meaning on
other characters like Aron, like Duran,
and some of the moves that they go
forward with. So, I feel like D or
Quentyn is not exactly his own
character. He's more a character for
other characters like Daenerys, like
Barristan, and like the other Dornish
I've talked about. And so this character
just comes off as flat. Like this this
chapter by far of all the chapters we've
gotten so far is the least impactful.
Like this chapter didn't need to be
here, right? Like what is the difference
between getting Quentyn with Danny later
on in the story and Quentyn just goes
yeah I you know I tricked the wind blown
and I ended up traveling to you and then
getting the big reveal that you know
Viseris was supposed to marry Arion but
now he is going to marry her. That's
going to be how they're going to do the
deal and all of that. I think that works
the exact same except it gets rid of
some of this fluff andor filler that I
think Quentyn has in this book. But that
gets us to John two. Now John 2 is very
interesting because it's a flip of Sam
one in a feast for crows. And I
mentioned this a lot when we did that
chapter in the last book. It's an
interesting take of how to do this
because something that that chapter
really does well for Sam one and Peace
for Crows is it shows like why is Jon
making these decisions? It makes us just
like Sam questioning Jon. And so even in
that book, one of the big things that it
builds up for the story already is Jon
is someone that is really isolating
himself from his friends. He's not
making people like him andor respect him
as much as they probably could. And it's
leading people to question him because
his communication skills are not the
best. And so I love the way George flips
this. So in this chapter, we can
actually see a lot of what Jon is doing
and we understand his motivations.
Albeit we think I think that he could do
things a little bit better and explain
things better. The whole chapter is
really the focus of Jon killing the boy
and becoming the man. He is trying to
make some moves that he believes are not
going to make him wellliked but are what
needs to be done for the greater good.
Again, we see Jon commanding Gilly to
take Mance's child and Sam is forced to
go south Aean. And again, it's a hard
chapter to look at because we know all
this stuff is going to happen and what
it ends up leading to, right? Like we
know because Aean goes south that ends
up getting him killed. So in a lot of
ways Jon is responsible for Aean dying
even though Aean kind of dies more of
natural causes than anything. It's
interesting to realize this stuff with
hindsight of looking at what Jon's
decisions are going to lead to. And we
can understand Jon's rationale
perfectly. We understand that this baby
is going to die if Gilly does not take
him. We know that they need more
maesters. Sam needs to become a maester.
That's for the greater good to find more
about the others. We know that Aean
needs to go south or else he might get
burned. And that's something Maester
Aean does not deserve. And so we
understand all of Jon's decisions, but
still it's hard to read because these
are hard things and he's isolating all
the people that we care about a lot and
are John's staunchest supporters. But at
this we get some of my favorite parts of
this. the rest of the chapter. Again,
the second half focuses on some of the
forts remanded and repaired as best as
possible. But this leads to a great
payoff and it's really awesome for me
because I'm just now reading I'm getting
to that section in the Game of Thrones
reread where Janice Slint is coming into
prominence. He's betrayed Ned. He's just
gotten Harrenhal on Tuesday in the video
we did with Sans of 5. He is finally
getting his comeuppance. And so Jon
basically gives him an order and he
refuses it. And watching Jon figure out
how to deal with Slint and executing
Slint is fantastic because we see Jon
once again, he is not a bully anymore.
Slint is pleading, saying he's a coward,
and Jon still kills him. And one of the
best scenes that they executed from
season 5, from the book to season 5
anyway, is this scene. And we see again
Stannis's nod of approval at the end of
the chapter. It's kind of that nice
little cherry on top. And by far, it is
my favorite chapter of the first nine.
It's just a big moment for Jon's
character and for the story as a whole.
Something we've been waiting on for a
long time. So, Tyrion 3 again, chapter
nine gets us to meeting young Griff and
getting to that party and getting away
from Yo. And so, in this chapter, he
meets Halden and Duck. We get some nice
little nods to the Blackfire theory
again as Yio is gifting many things to
young Riff and makes us think about wait
how come Dany and Viseris did not seem
like they got any of these things. Only
Dany seemed to get a lot of these gifts
and that was because she was married or
marrying Cal Drogo in the first book.
But the three travel to the ship having
conversations about the shrouded lord,
which is also very interesting given
some theories about this could be
Tyrion's uncle, which is also very
interesting. And how Duck was kned by
Griff, because this is very interesting
as well. We now know that Griff must be
a knight and there's not many knights in
Essos. So all of that's very fascinating
because it's going to get the gears
turning for Tyrion. But all this is very
interesting. But the best part is him
meeting young Griff and eventually Griff
because Tyrion sees a lot of his father
Tywin in John Conington which is
interesting given that John Conington
wishes he had been more like Tywin. He
could have ended Robert's rebellion. And
so a lot of this is very interesting. It
gets us into I think the best part of
Tyrion in this book. And I think the
first three Tyrion chapters are all
solid. I don't think any of them are
spectacular, but they are good enough to
get the job done and really get us to I
think really the peak part of Tyrion in
this book. So, moving on, we get Davos
1. And this is again, it's a prelude.
It's really a prelude to the amazing
chapters we're going to get going
forward with Davos uh in this story. But
again, it's a reflection chapter. It's
really what it is. It's reflecting and
piecing together what happened between a
storm of swords during the timeline of
Feast for Crows and here. And so we see
that because of storms they have
shattered Salidor son's fleet and Davos
has been left stranded in Sisterton.
Davos has been captured as he was trying
to smuggle his way to White Harbor but
is caught. Again, this is going to
directly reflect what happens to Ned in
Robert's Rebellion. Something I talked
about in a past video as well. But this
is interesting, right? Because how is
this going to work with the with the
lord here with Lord Burrell? how is he
going to deal with this situation?
Right? But Lord Bell and Davos have a
conversation about what to do with him
and we get some interesting information
about the history of the sisters. Again,
as I talked about earlier about the
Roberts Rebellion stuff, it's a direct
comparison to what's happening here.
Stannis, albeit maybe isn't in the best
position at the time. Who's to say he
doesn't actually end up gathering the
North. If he was to defeat the Boltons,
that'd be a huge win. Rallying the North
behind him. Who knows what could happen?
Tywin is dead, right? That's something
that Davos finds out in this chapter.
Tommen at this point is on the throne
with really bad counselors. We see how
all that plays out in Peace for Crows.
And so, yeah, there's something that
Lord Brell really has to think about.
But we also not only get the Roberts
Rebellion stuff, we also get the kind of
the history of the Sisterton and the
Sisters as a whole as how the veil of
the North would constantly fought over
it until it was eventually brought into
Aegon's kingdom. But overall, this
chapter is a great chapter to build on
for Davos. George is really just showing
us what happened with Stannis in this
book, building up this plotline and
giving us a taste of what is to come in
the north with Davos. So, that gets us
to John 3. And I want to point this out,
right? We are only 11 chapters in and
we've gotten three Tyrion chapters and
three Jon chapters. Half of the first
part of this like little section is just
Jon and Tyrion. If that doesn't show you
that George took the advice of readers
in the past, of his fans and his readers
about the criticisms of A Feast for
Crows, this should tell you everything,
right? If we even think about the next
chapter, right? Out of the first 12
chapters, eight of them are John, Danny,
and Tyrion. I just want to point that
out as we go further in here. John 3.
Again, I I really praise what George is
able to do with his character because
this is just a really great chapter. I
love everything that it has relating to
John. Again, his plotline in this book
is really established by these first
three chapters, but the chapters open
with Mance Raider's execution or what we
believe is Mance Raider's execution. And
this is a really big moment, right?
Mance Raider has been built up as a
really big character at this point of
the story. And so, hindsight, we know
that this is a Mance Raider. But given
what we know at this point of the story,
this is a big moment. Like this is
really Jon's I wouldn't say his villain
of his arc because that's the others,
but it's been like his anti-hero of his
story. And so really big characters
going out and we see Mel performing this
ritual. But we again see the way Jon and
Stan and Stannis handle things quite
differently. Jon is not willing to let
this man be burned to death and commands
him to be shot with some arrows to again
just allow that to end quickly. Now this
is not actually Mance Raider. So it is
quite different. We are but it is quite
interesting. But something else we're
left to ponder here is that Mance Raider
starts saying that he was not the king
and that he wasn't all these things.
That leads you to think about this is
like is this just one desperate plea for
Mance Raider to get out of this? But no,
we know this is really the Lord of Bones
yelling this cuz he doesn't want to get
burned. That's very interesting. What
also does this tell us? It tells us that
Mel doesn't really believe that King's
blood is needed because it's the Lord of
Bones. It's not the king. And so, we've
kind of already realized this by the
time we get to Winds of Winter, but it's
not really King's blood that does it.
It's blood in general. It's blood magic
that's powerful. That's what gives power
in this world. We also see more of why
Jon is killed as he continues to try and
struggle with ruling and dealing with
people because at this point Bowen Marsh
does really respect Jon, but Bowen
suggests he block the gates. But Jon
disagrees, doesn't really express why.
Like he just says, "Oh, it'll leave us
blind." But he doesn't really expand
upon that. It just feels like a
one-sided conversation where Bow and
March is, you know, giving all these
reasons as to maybe why this could be
beneficial and just Jon just going,
"Nah, that's kind of how it feels." And
like we as the readers understand why
Jon doesn't want the gates to be blocked
because we're in his head. So we're
thinking, we're looking at his thoughts
and going, "Yeah, I understand that
rationale, but he's not saying those
things to Bow and Marsh." And so when
you have a building conflict, right,
where Bow and Marsh is going to have a
lot of these moments and a lot of people
in the watch will have this these
moments with Jon where they're giving
him some sort of idea that Jon doesn't
like, but Jon doesn't really give them
anything back. He just says no. And so
that's an interesting point. But we also
see that the Wildlings are basically
given a choice. You either bend the knee
and get some food and shelter or you're
basically told to leave. they can go
back up north with no clothing or well
with the clothing that they have but no
food really basically a death sentence
and so many do bend the knee to Stannis
and all of that and get food and things
like that but it doesn't really go the
way I think Stannis was kind of hoping
it would and so at this point right this
is why Bone March is like we need to
close the gates right because the
wildlings are going to come back if we
seal the gates it'll be much easier to
defend we don't have the men to defend
defend against another assault like what
happened with Mance. And that's a very
interesting point, right? Like if you
think about it, like if you think about
Bone and Marsh's rationale, we know the
others are out there. We know the
Wildlings are out there and they're
going to be coming south. We know all of
this. What is the point of having
scouts? Like what? Like what's the
point? Like the last time that they went
on a really big scouting party in book
two didn't go well. a lot of the watch's
strength died because of Mormont's
decision. Now, it was important to
understand what was going on, but at the
same time, it was also detrimental. So,
again, you can see both of the rationale
of both Mormont and Jon Snow, which is
what makes this chapter so interesting.
But not only that, we also see this
chapter having some internal conflict
about the Wildlings and the Night's
Watch relationship, right? How is Jon
going to circumvent that? but also how
is when he looks at his night watchmen
and how they react to the wildlings, a
lot of them are not too pleased. A lot
of them are not happy to have all of
these wildlings south of the wall. It
makes them feel uneasy. And if you're a
nights watchman, think about this. For
thousands of years, you've had these
issues with the nights watch and the
wildlings, right? And so, a lot of these
people don't have those experiences with
good wildlings, right? Or people that
are just normal people trying to make
their way to safety. They don't have
those relationships. A lot of people
have lost friends to these wildlings or
maybe even if you are living in the
north, family members. All of that is
very relevant to this whole argument
that's going to go on with Jon and the
other um Knights Watchmen. But we also
see Jon struggling with being a leader.
He has regret over Gilly, Aean, and Sam
as he hears of the storms that occurred
in Sam 2. Again, if you guys don't
remember, there was a big storm that
happens that ends up basically having
them struggling in around Skagos. It's a
really filler, one of the worst chapters
of A Feast for Crows, but that is what
Jon is kind of referring to at this
moment. But he also knows he can't be
friends with his men anymore and goes a
step further. So yeah, we see Jon
basically going to the dining area and
his friends want them to sit with him.
And Jon is about to, but then he thinks
this like he thinks about how Ned always
told him he can't be friends with his
men, right? you can't do that because
you may have to send them to die or
basically be sitting over them if they
commit a crime. And so John goes a step
further. He has all of his staunchest
allies, people that we have known from
book one, and sends them away, either
Shadow Tower or Eastwatch. And it's
another misstep from Jon because what
does this do? It isolates his staunchest
supporters, people that would be able to
understand him more and sends them other
places. And all in all, again, it's a
great chapter that really is a
culmination of John's entire arc in this
book and foreshadows much to come. And
that'll get us into chapter 12 or Danny
2. Again, I think it's another really
good chapter because just how I talked
about with the last two chapters for
Jon, this is a really good one. It's a
direct continuation of the issues built
up in the first Dany chapter. We see
more deaths have occurred with her
unsullied being slain by the Sons of the
Harpy. Again, one of which is actually a
brother to Missande. Doesn't really
happen in the show, but again, this is a
very big event. Missande is much younger
than she is in the show, and so this
really impacts her. But we see how Dany
deals with the Sons of the Harpy, and
what length she will go to get
information, right? She goes as far as
having these witnesses that who knows if
they're innocent or actually guilty, but
possibly tortured by the Sha Pay because
she's that desperate for information.
Again, you see those glimpses of things
that George can play on in Winds of
Winter where it's like Dany and her
desperation sometimes can make bad
decisions even if she thinks it's for
the greater good. But other things that
I find are very interesting in this
entire situation is how Dany again is
not really asserting herself. She's
playing more of a passive role, which is
much more different for her as a
character than we've seen in the past.
But Danny then has to be the one to
confront or com or comfort Missande and
struggles with how can she protect her
people, right? How is she going to
protect all these people that are
calling her mother, right? There's this
really cute line where Missande calls
Dany basically her protector and her
mother. And Danny struggles with that.
She feels guilty because she has the
weight of all these people's lives, but
yet people are still dying. But this
also makes her think about her real
children, the children that she has
always said as being her dragons. the
dragons have been imprisoned and how
they have failed to capture Drogon.
Dany is feeling an overwhelming sense of
loss of control. She feels like she
can't handle this this whole situation.
And again, what do we always talk about?
It seems like when Dany is at her lowest
point, her weakest point, she's either
having dragon dreams or being visited by
Quaith. And this is by far the most
interesting part of the chapter because
we always use this section of this
chapter to foreshadow things to come
with Dy's plotline. But we see Quaith
appear and it comes at a very
interesting point as Dany is in many
ways losing her way. Quaith tries to
remind her to be a dragon and remember
who she is, but also to warn her of
people to come like Tyrion, like
Victarion, like all these other people,
like young Griff possibly. But she also
has once again to deal with the growing
issue of the reopening of the fighting
pits. Again, Hisdar has brought some of
these pit fighters. And what's very
interesting is the pit fighters want the
pits to be reopened. This is where they
get glory. They feel like they have some
worth in this world. and Danny doesn't
know what to say to them, right? It's
the same idea that we talked about in
Danny 1 where slavery is definitely a
bad thing, but what do you do when
there's certain people that are enslaved
that had better lives because they had
better masters when they were enslaved
than they do now? Now they're, you know,
looking for bread and not being able to
live a normal life. How do you deal with
that? And that's the issues that Danny
is trying to come to is like, how does
she deny the people of the fighting pits
if that's what they want? That is a very
compelling issue to play with with the
character of Dany.
But lastly, again, like we talked about,
whenever she's at her weakest, she goes
to her dragons. She goes to see them.
She has to think of what to do. They are
no longer children, but in her words,
they are monsters. She has to recount as
she recounts how she had to deal with
the farmer after in Dany one, she had to
attempt to buy his silence as Drogon has
had killed his child. Again, Danny is
locking up her dragons, right? She
believes they're too wild. She can't
control them anymore. She's losing her
way, right? She she very similar to me
with like a character like Rob, who as
the story goes on at times seems to
become very disconnected with his wolf,
Grey Wind. And that's something that's
very detrimental, right? Because he's
kind of going away from his stark
instincts and going away from who he is.
That's something that Dany struggles
with in this chapter and why I think
it's a really good chapter for Dany
because it plays on her identity, her
growth in this character, a lot of her
struggles and things she's dealing with.
It's all going to culminate into the end
of this book that this chapter is
pivotal to understanding that we get to
chapter 13, which is Bran 2. Now, Bran 2
is a really, really awesome chapter as
well, right? Like what I talk about with
Bran is he's really good at the
beginning of this book. We see again
picking up from where we left off. Bran
and our group has been traveling and
this is the most desperate they've
probably ever been. The cold is getting
to them. Many of them haven't eaten in
days and they're struggling to reach the
cave. You can see it. It's in sight.
They're finally there, but it's this
tough uphill battle. Um, and I mean that
literally. It's going uphill. It's hard
to walk. And even some of them can't
even walk anymore. Even Jojan himself
cannot walk any longer and is had having
to be helped by his sister. Even to the
point where they really are kind of left
behind as cold hands notes the others
are approaching and even the wolves are
close by. They must hurry. So him,
Hodor, and Bran hurry to the entrance.
But before they can get there, they are
st they are run upon by the others. It
seems a trap. The others come from the
ground pulling Hodor to the ground but
also having Bran fall from his basket.
It's a really intense scene in which our
characters seem like they're about to
die at many points. But it all leads to
once again the question of Bran waring
into Hodor and again we see that ethical
issue as Hodor doesn't like it but Bran
sees it as he must do it or they are
going to die. Bran using Hodor's body
allows them to survive again helping
Meera and the others. But at this point,
they are saved by the children of the
forest, something that's been
foreshadowed really since the first two
chapters of Bran's uh story in a Game of
Thrones. But either way, they are led
through this really weird area where it
seems like there's these deep white uh
roots that they think are snakes at the
beginning. They come across skulls of
things like ravens and such, but at this
point they find Blood Raven. And this is
a really interesting point because Bran
at this point asks if he will walk
again, but Blood Raven says no, he will
fly, which gets Bran to the point of
crying. He's gone on this insane
adventure, abandoning, you know, the
North, his family, and coming to this
point just so that he could not be a
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from the beginning of the story and is
one of the biggest reasons why he came
to seek out the three-eyed crow at this
point that's kind of been crushed. This
seems as a lot of manipulation by Blood
Raven to get Bran here so that who knows
what could happen if Bran is basically
becoming a vessel for the old gods. Who
knows? But it comes off as very strange
and a chapter that will start Bran's arc
as becoming probably the three-eyed crow
or at least some sort of vessel for
them. It puts a lot of tension and
unease and a huge twist for Bran's story
and is by far one of his best chapters
of his entire POV throughout all four
books that he is in. And again, it's a
definitely standout chapter of the
opening story. I will say I actually
made a little bit of an oopsie that I
don't think anyone pointed out in the
first video, so I'm glad people didn't
notice. Um, but I actually forgot to do
Theon one in the first part. I was going
through my notes and I was looking
through. I'm like, "Wait a minute. I
don't seem to have the number of
chapters that it says I'm supposed to
have." And so I went back and I actually
missed Theon one or week one. It's
supposed to be right in between uh the
Bran 2 chapter that we ended the last uh
part on and the Danny 2 chapter. So, I'm
going to start with that chapter even
though we are a little bit out of order
once again, but we'll get back on track
given that we're starting with Theon 1.
This is going to be a really interesting
chapter because you have to remember we
haven't seen Theon for two books, right?
The last we see of him is at the end of
a clash of kings. And so there's nothing
no information about Theon in book
three. There's no information about
Theon in book four. There's alluding to
that he's dead or he's just not anywhere
to be seen. And so when you come back to
this character, and again, we don't know
it's Theon, right? It's just Reek. Who
is this character of Reek? And maybe if
you were in a maybe if you were a very
detailed reader and you remembered, you
would have remembered that Reek was a
character that we learned a little bit
earlier on in book two andor book three.
So you might be thinking already, okay,
this is related to Ramsay. So okay,
well, who is this character then? And we
see that this character is is basically
a husk of himself. He's starving to
death. He's desperate looking for a rat.
He's living in complete fear. And we as
the character with big Walder and little
Walder find this character and realize
that this is Theon Greyjoy, a character
that has lost fingers. His hair is
turning gray. He looks visibly aged.
Even though it hasn't been that long, he
looks like an old man at this time as
he's malnourished.
It's a horrifying thought. And this
chapter really is not like a big plot
chapter in terms of what actually
happens, but it's a huge revelation
because us the audience, you know,
especially looking at the last book
where it kind of really develops into
that Greyjoy plotline, it kind of has in
the back of your mind what happened to
Theon. Well, this is what happened. And
so, as a reader, you're going to be very
conflicted in this book about how you
feel about Theon. Theon is a character
that I think a lot of people do not like
in the first two books. And when you
come back to him here, you're sitting
here going, I can't help but feel bad
for him. Nobody should have to endure
what Theon, you know, dealt with. Maybe
Theon deserves to be killed for his
actions, betraying the Starks, whatnot.
But at the same time, does he deserve to
be tortured and all of these things?
It's an interesting little way that
George plays with it. It's something I
think it's very interesting with Cersei
as well, where he takes a character we
really don't like and puts them through
the ringer to gain them sympathy and we
can understand that character. It makes
us question our feelings on a particular
plotline or character. And so Theon
during this time really what mainly the
focus is is he is going to have to do
this mission of helping freeing up the
north from the Ironborn at Moalin. We'll
get into that at the end of this video
as his next chapter is kind of towards
the end of this retrospective or this
second part of the retrospective, but I
did want to come back and make sure we
did do that because it's a vital part of
this chapter. It's it's vital a part of
this book and it's one of the best plot
lines and so I I apologize for missing
that in the last video if any of you
guys did wonder that. So that gets us
back on track. So we're back on with
chapter 15. And Tyrion 4 to me is of the
first four chapters we get of Tyrion,
it's the best one of the first four. And
something else I want to point out as
we're going into this chapter, you got
to remember we're only 15 chapters in
that would point to the idea that over a
quarter of the chapters so far have been
Tyrion chapters. Again, it's George
taking what people had on complaints
about Feast for Crows and giving them it
here, right? giving us the main
characters frontloading them quite a lot
in this book. But in this chapter, we
are introduced into some very
interesting characters, notably Septa
Lamore and Young Griffith. We still see
how Tyrion is a very pessimistic and
broken person, but he's being given more
of a role trying to actively figure out
what's going on here. And so, we have
some of that darker side of Tyrion, but
we also have a little bit of that clever
side of Tyrion, how he's going to be
able to manipulate things and how he's
going to be able to manipulate people.
He kind of realizes something is just
not right here. Young Griff is getting a
better education and attention than most
Lords in Westeros. Why is that? What is
so important about young Griff if he's
just some sort of cell swords kid? Just
doesn't seem to add up. And so Tyrion
goes through this chapter trying to
figure that out. And we see that his
mind starts to work when he plays a game
of Savas with Halden the Half Maester.
And he basically puts on the line that
if he wins, he wants a secret. Well, we
know Tyrion eventually wins. And we find
out and he finds out a secret that we
don't know yet. But there's a very
cryptic ending to foreshadow what Tyrion
has just found out. As at the end, they
see a great to a great turtle of the
Rine signifying the crowning of a king.
Now, us the audience don't know what
Tyrion's talking about here. At this
point in the story, it's very difficult
to conclude as us an audience member
that this is young griff or some sort of Targaryen.
Targaryen.
And so Tyrion realizes that and so he
won't get the payoff of that till the
next chapter. But this is a really good
chapter just to kind of give Tyrion
something to kind of work with, right? I
think one of the biggest complaints of
the first three chapters for Tyrion is
it's a lot of contemplation in those
first three chapters for Tyrion. And
yes, there are really really interesting
parts between Tyrion and Yrio,
but it's not like as focused, right?
There's not a lot of focus to Tyrion in
those first three chapters. This gives
him something interesting to develop,
right? Us, the audience, want to know
who are all these people on board. We
want to know why this cryptic ending and
that is going to help reshift Tyrion
into what is he going to do with this
character of Young Griff? Is he going to
help him? Is he how does he feel about
this? So, that kind of really helps the
character of Tyrion. I think to me it
doesn't feel the same as like Tyrion and
Brienne because Brienne goes on to have
one of the strongest arcs arcs of a
feast for crows whereas Tyrion he kind
of has like the first half of the book
being pretty middle of the pack to then
some really good chapters and then he
really falls off a cliff but it kind of
feels like that where there's finally
some like real focus for the character
of Tyrion in this chapter specifically.
So that gets us into chapter 16 Davos 2.
So Davos 2 is a weird one, right?
Because Davos has four chapters in this
book. And the first chapter is him and
Sister Tenn. It's really a nice catch up
of what goes on after Storm of Swords.
Nice reintroduction to the character
building the world out in terms of how
Ned once came here during the Robert's
Rebellion era. All that's really
awesome. And then you have chapter three
and four also being fantastic chapters
dealing with Wyon Manderly and the
Manderlys as a whole. This chapter is
kind of that middle ground. It's Davos
kind of contemplating his options. He's
arriving at White Harbor, but what does
he do, right? He's kind of arriving as
someone that nobody knows. He's not with
an envoy. He's not showing up as like
this rich hand of the king. He's kind of
showing up as a smuggler. But really,
what this chapter is trying to do is
build the atmosphere and analyze White Harbor. Kind of showing what's been
Harbor. Kind of showing what's been going on here because we haven't been
going on here because we haven't been here, right? The closest we kind of have
here, right? The closest we kind of have been here in reality on screen is in
been here in reality on screen is in book one, Catelyn comes with the
book one, Catelyn comes with the Manderlys to Mo Kalin, but we don't see
Manderlys to Mo Kalin, but we don't see White Harbor. We learn a little bit
White Harbor. We learn a little bit about the Manderlys from that chapter,
about the Manderlys from that chapter, but it's not really enough in my
but it's not really enough in my opinion. So, in this chapter, we kind of
opinion. So, in this chapter, we kind of figure out what's going on here. The
figure out what's going on here. The Freys have shown up to White Harbor. It
Freys have shown up to White Harbor. It seems like the two are forming an
seems like the two are forming an alliance, but there's also some tragic
alliance, but there's also some tragic things going on there. Like, where is
things going on there. Like, where is Wyman's son? Is he he's a cap? It's
Wyman's son? Is he he's a cap? It's presumed he's a captive of of the
presumed he's a captive of of the phrase. Well, okay, then how is Wyman
phrase. Well, okay, then how is Wyman going to support Stannis? And so, it's
going to support Stannis? And so, it's Davos kind of rationalizing through all
Davos kind of rationalizing through all of these things. And it's Davos having
of these things. And it's Davos having to use his smuggling skills, learning
to use his smuggling skills, learning about the situation as he goes to ins
about the situation as he goes to ins and things like that. But by the end of
and things like that. But by the end of the chapter, he realizes either way, he
the chapter, he realizes either way, he has to present himself to the gates and
has to present himself to the gates and needs to speak to Wyman. Again, it's a
needs to speak to Wyman. Again, it's a good chapter. It builds up the plotline
good chapter. It builds up the plotline going forward and it really helps those
going forward and it really helps those next two chapters that Davos is going to
next two chapters that Davos is going to have truly be great chapters,
have truly be great chapters, but the fallout is, you know, not a lot
but the fallout is, you know, not a lot really happens in this chapter. It's
really happens in this chapter. It's just kind of a, you know, a basic block
just kind of a, you know, a basic block chapter where you're building up things
chapter where you're building up things to come. There's not too much to really
to come. There's not too much to really talk about in this one. And so, it's a
talk about in this one. And so, it's a good one, but it's not great really in
good one, but it's not great really in any way. Number 17 is going to be Danny
any way. Number 17 is going to be Danny 3. Danny 3 is a chapter that I really
3. Danny 3 is a chapter that I really think is good as well. I think Danny is
think is good as well. I think Danny is a weird character in this book because
a weird character in this book because especially early on where I am in my
especially early on where I am in my reread. So about 400 pages in, she's
reread. So about 400 pages in, she's definitely like a middle of the pack.
definitely like a middle of the pack. Like she doesn't have any chapters so
Like she doesn't have any chapters so far that are like your best of the book
far that are like your best of the book or any chapters that I think are like
or any chapters that I think are like terrible or the worst of the book. She's
terrible or the worst of the book. She's just kind of there in the middle. She's
just kind of there in the middle. She's just there. And so in this chapter, it's
just there. And so in this chapter, it's really focusing on if Dany will go back
really focusing on if Dany will go back to Westeros, will she go to that place
to Westeros, will she go to that place that she believes is home as she
that she believes is home as she receives Zar Exaro or Zaro, I'm not sure
receives Zar Exaro or Zaro, I'm not sure how you say his name, from Quarth, one
how you say his name, from Quarth, one of the 13 from book two. So a nice call
of the 13 from book two. So a nice call back to her arc in book two. But he
back to her arc in book two. But he comes offering 13 ships to take her home
comes offering 13 ships to take her home to Westeros and leave Slavers Bay
to Westeros and leave Slavers Bay behind. And for Danny, to me, this
behind. And for Danny, to me, this doesn't really make sense because 13
doesn't really make sense because 13 chips is not enough for Danny to go
chips is not enough for Danny to go home. You got to remember she has a ton
home. You got to remember she has a ton of unsullied. Uh any there are people
of unsullied. Uh any there are people that are still with her like Kisar that
that are still with her like Kisar that she has very small at this point, but
she has very small at this point, but still any people that want to come with
still any people that want to come with her to Westeros, it's a struggle, right?
her to Westeros, it's a struggle, right? That's not enough ships. So, it kind of
That's not enough ships. So, it kind of is interesting
is interesting in terms of does Danny just take his
in terms of does Danny just take his ships? What does she do with them? And
ships? What does she do with them? And it's great for building the wars to come
it's great for building the wars to come as the Junish are already marching on a
as the Junish are already marching on a on Astapore and will continue towards
on Astapore and will continue towards her. And something this that I think is
her. And something this that I think is very interesting and I one of the
very interesting and I one of the reasons I don't really understand
reasons I don't really understand Quentyn's plotline in this book is
Quentyn's plotline in this book is information like that we get here in
information like that we get here in like a couple sentences or a paragraph.
like a couple sentences or a paragraph. We learn about what's also going on in
We learn about what's also going on in Essos or around Slavers Bay. And so we
Essos or around Slavers Bay. And so we don't need things like Quentin. I'm
don't need things like Quentin. I'm going to talk about that when we get to
going to talk about that when we get to Quentyn 2, but I think that's important
Quentyn 2, but I think that's important because this chapter really focuses the
because this chapter really focuses the landscape of what is going on in the
landscape of what is going on in the world at this time or at least in the in
world at this time or at least in the in Essos I would I'll say specifically. But
Essos I would I'll say specifically. But we see that Dany really has no leverage.
we see that Dany really has no leverage. She's struggling to get any of this
She's struggling to get any of this economy going as she wants to trade with
economy going as she wants to trade with Karth, but again she has nothing to
Karth, but again she has nothing to trade and Exaro tells her that. But all
trade and Exaro tells her that. But all in all, Dany must decide what to do.
in all, Dany must decide what to do. Stay and attempt to rule with a people
Stay and attempt to rule with a people that dislike her or leave for home where
that dislike her or leave for home where she is presumably wanted but leaving her
she is presumably wanted but leaving her people to be enslaved. It's a really
people to be enslaved. It's a really interesting predicament that Danny's in.
interesting predicament that Danny's in. It's the one she's going to battle
It's the one she's going to battle pretty much this entire first half of
pretty much this entire first half of the book because staying is something
the book because staying is something that she personally doesn't want. It
that she personally doesn't want. It doesn't have much of a benefit to her.
doesn't have much of a benefit to her. She's not well loved here. But on the
She's not well loved here. But on the flip side of it, if she leaves, she
flip side of it, if she leaves, she abandons her people. She abandons the
abandons her people. She abandons the people around her. So she's kind of
people around her. So she's kind of split in half. Whereas personally, what
split in half. Whereas personally, what was motivating her, she wants to go
was motivating her, she wants to go reclaim the Iron Throne. She wants to go
reclaim the Iron Throne. She wants to go back to where her presumive home is. But
back to where her presumive home is. But her moral conscience and what is holding
her moral conscience and what is holding her back is the people she's slaved, the
her back is the people she's slaved, the people that she believes she's a mother
people that she believes she's a mother to. And so this chapter is really good
to. And so this chapter is really good because it paints that right there front
because it paints that right there front and center. you know, we're not shying
and center. you know, we're not shying away from it. It gives Dany an ultimatum
away from it. It gives Dany an ultimatum as to what she's going to do. But I also
as to what she's going to do. But I also find something that is interesting that
find something that is interesting that George uses. George uses Viseris to
George uses. George uses Viseris to impact Daenerys's thoughts all
impact Daenerys's thoughts all throughout this chapter in terms of
throughout this chapter in terms of going home, in terms of what she should
going home, in terms of what she should be doing that is to her own personal
be doing that is to her own personal benefit, how she thinks about him and
benefit, how she thinks about him and how she acts. All is very present in the
how she acts. All is very present in the Shadow. And I like that George does that
Shadow. And I like that George does that call back because Viseris was such an
call back because Viseris was such an integral part of her story and why she
integral part of her story and why she became a Kesi, why she became the mother
became a Kesi, why she became the mother of dragons. All of that is vital to
of dragons. All of that is vital to understanding. But in the end, she
understanding. But in the end, she decides to stay to the anger of of Aaro
decides to stay to the anger of of Aaro who leaves a bloody glove declaring war
who leaves a bloody glove declaring war again. Dany has once again made more
again. Dany has once again made more enemies. She now has enemies on all
enemies. She now has enemies on all sides of her. things that will collapse
sides of her. things that will collapse in on itself as the book continues to go
in on itself as the book continues to go on and is something that still has yet
on and is something that still has yet to be resolved in Winds of Winter.
to be resolved in Winds of Winter. Again, I noted that this chapter was not
Again, I noted that this chapter was not as good as I think her second chapter,
as good as I think her second chapter, but was still very enjoyable. Had its
but was still very enjoyable. Had its own kind of contained story, and I
own kind of contained story, and I really did enjoy it. And that gets us
really did enjoy it. And that gets us into chapter 18, which will be John 4.
into chapter 18, which will be John 4. Again, this is another good chapter for
Again, this is another good chapter for John as it's his last with Stannis. It's
John as it's his last with Stannis. It's kind of the breaking of the early Jon
kind of the breaking of the early Jon chapters where Jon has been a character
chapters where Jon has been a character that's kind of been divided and things
that's kind of been divided and things taking up the time and his POVs, you
taking up the time and his POVs, you know, with the Stannis stuff, with kind
know, with the Stannis stuff, with kind of other things going on with the Wild
of other things going on with the Wild Link plot, with, you know, the Sam Gilly
Link plot, with, you know, the Sam Gilly Aean plot of sending them uh south.
Aean plot of sending them uh south. There's been a lot of things that have
There's been a lot of things that have kind of struggled to focus Jon on like
kind of struggled to focus Jon on like one thing at this time. And so here he's
one thing at this time. And so here he's kind of trying to do a lot here because
kind of trying to do a lot here because the chapter opens with the issues of
the chapter opens with the issues of food, right? John goes down to see their
food, right? John goes down to see their stores, see what their reserves are
stores, see what their reserves are looking like for winter, and it's not
looking like for winter, and it's not good, right? Bow and Marsh even states
good, right? Bow and Marsh even states this. We don't have enough food for all
this. We don't have enough food for all of Stannis's men, all of these
of Stannis's men, all of these wildlings. We just don't have the food.
wildlings. We just don't have the food. And Jon is basically forced to make a
And Jon is basically forced to make a choice to start rationing the food.
choice to start rationing the food. another thing that's going to lead to
another thing that's going to lead to why people don't respect him and or or
why people don't respect him and or or why people dislike him and are willing
why people dislike him and are willing to kill him. But on the other side of
to kill him. But on the other side of that, you also have Jon who's not
that, you also have Jon who's not listening to Marsh. They don't have
listening to Marsh. They don't have enough food with the wildlings and
enough food with the wildlings and Stannis here. And the problem Jon faces
Stannis here. And the problem Jon faces throughout all of this book is he's not
throughout all of this book is he's not willing to tell the people why they are
willing to tell the people why they are doing things, right? He just does them
doing things, right? He just does them and expects people to just go along with
and expects people to just go along with it. One of the things if you want to
it. One of the things if you want to look at if Jon is a Targaryen that one
look at if Jon is a Targaryen that one of his ancestors did really well is
of his ancestors did really well is Jiharis would be someone that would sit
Jiharis would be someone that would sit down with people, hear their grievances
down with people, hear their grievances and explain why he thought maybe that
and explain why he thought maybe that was not the right course of action. John
was not the right course of action. John consistently in this book does not do
consistently in this book does not do that. And this chapter puts it on full
that. And this chapter puts it on full display. He doesn't listen to Bow and
display. He doesn't listen to Bow and Marsh. And when he does, he kind of just
Marsh. And when he does, he kind of just says a bland answer and then just
says a bland answer and then just leaves. Like he says, "Yeah, we'll
leaves. Like he says, "Yeah, we'll ration the food." But he doesn't give a
ration the food." But he doesn't give a how do we fix the solution? Rationing
how do we fix the solution? Rationing the food will help the situation, but
the food will help the situation, but it's not a solve. We're still going to
it's not a solve. We're still going to have the same end result. We don't have
have the same end result. We don't have enough food. And whether John doesn't
enough food. And whether John doesn't have a solution to that yet at all
have a solution to that yet at all already, fine. But you still have to
already, fine. But you still have to explain what's going on.
explain what's going on. That's where people will lose trust in
That's where people will lose trust in you. And that's exactly what we're going
you. And that's exactly what we're going to see in this book. But the second part
to see in this book. But the second part of this chapter is almost completely on
of this chapter is almost completely on Stannis. It's about what Stannis is
Stannis. It's about what Stannis is going to be doing in the north. Stannis
going to be doing in the north. Stannis is someone that realizes he cannot stay
is someone that realizes he cannot stay at the wall forever. The longer he does,
at the wall forever. The longer he does, the more he'll be forgotten about and
the more he'll be forgotten about and all of that. And so he decides, okay,
all of that. And so he decides, okay, maybe I should march to the dread for
maybe I should march to the dread for it. A lot of people have been suggesting
it. A lot of people have been suggesting that. Arnoff Kstark being one of those.
that. Arnoff Kstark being one of those. Again, we know this is actually a trap,
Again, we know this is actually a trap, but us as the readers don't know that at
but us as the readers don't know that at this point, but that is what is going
this point, but that is what is going on. And we again see that a lot of our
on. And we again see that a lot of our counselors agree to this, right? Many of
counselors agree to this, right? Many of them, all of them are not from the
them, all of them are not from the north. They don't really know what it
north. They don't really know what it the north is like and it's a dumb plan.
the north is like and it's a dumb plan. Think about how long the march is to the
Think about how long the march is to the dread for. They're at the very top of
dread for. They're at the very top of the north at the wall. It would take a
the north at the wall. It would take a long time to get there. They'd be
long time to get there. They'd be extremely lucky if they went if they
extremely lucky if they went if they even got there without being noticed.
even got there without being noticed. And to dread the dread for is a very
And to dread the dread for is a very strong castle. How were they supposing
strong castle. How were they supposing they were going to get in even if it is
they were going to get in even if it is lightly garrisoned? But also moving that
lightly garrisoned? But also moving that far south puts you right in the
far south puts you right in the crossfires of not only Ramsay's army at
crossfires of not only Ramsay's army at the time that's this far down south and
the time that's this far down south and also Roose's army coming up from Moalin.
also Roose's army coming up from Moalin. And you could be thinking okay well they
And you could be thinking okay well they hope the Ironborn are going to be able
hope the Ironborn are going to be able to hold Moalin. But Stannis is smart
to hold Moalin. But Stannis is smart enough to realize Moin's going to be
enough to realize Moin's going to be attacked from the north and the south.
attacked from the north and the south. It's going to fall very quickly. And so
It's going to fall very quickly. And so in that regard this is a terrible plan.
in that regard this is a terrible plan. And so Jon disagrees being the only one
And so Jon disagrees being the only one really able to step up and tell him
really able to step up and tell him this. It won't work. And instead he
this. It won't work. And instead he makes a trade. He wants to keep the
makes a trade. He wants to keep the wildlings and tell Stannis of different
wildlings and tell Stannis of different men that he can get in the mountain
men that he can get in the mountain clans. And so more or less we have a
clans. And so more or less we have a whole new plot. Stannis is going to head
whole new plot. Stannis is going to head to Deepwood Mott after getting the
to Deepwood Mott after getting the Mountain Clans. And that is where
Mountain Clans. And that is where Stannis will go. And this is the end of
Stannis will go. And this is the end of the Stannis and Jon plot. The two will
the Stannis and Jon plot. The two will not see each other in this book. They
not see each other in this book. They may see each other in the next book, but
may see each other in the next book, but this is kind of the end of the Stannis
this is kind of the end of the Stannis plot for Jon. Now, this kind of has an
plot for Jon. Now, this kind of has an interesting question, and I want to talk
interesting question, and I want to talk about this more when we get to it, but
about this more when we get to it, but you as a reader then might be thinking,
you as a reader then might be thinking, okay, where are we then going to get our
okay, where are we then going to get our Stannis POV? Davos is in White Harbor.
Stannis POV? Davos is in White Harbor. Mel is going to be staying here, and Mel
Mel is going to be staying here, and Mel wasn't even a POV at this time anyway.
wasn't even a POV at this time anyway. There's no one that's a POV that's going
There's no one that's a POV that's going to be with Stannis. So, are we going to
to be with Stannis. So, are we going to hear about these events? Are we going to
hear about these events? Are we going to see them through Theon's eyes, but it's
see them through Theon's eyes, but it's going to be from the Ramsay camp? We're
going to be from the Ramsay camp? We're going to definitely see that, but what
going to definitely see that, but what is going to happen there? And so, you
is going to happen there? And so, you also, I think, as a reader, you don't
also, I think, as a reader, you don't really realize, wait, who could be at
really realize, wait, who could be at Deepwood M? Asha. And so, when you get
Deepwood M? Asha. And so, when you get to that chapter, it all feels like it
to that chapter, it all feels like it flows perfectly well. And some people
flows perfectly well. And some people might be saying, oh, well, that's
might be saying, oh, well, that's convenient. You lose one POV and you
convenient. You lose one POV and you pick up another one for SAS's camp. But
pick up another one for SAS's camp. But I'm going to explain when we get there
I'm going to explain when we get there why it's not a plot convenience and it
why it's not a plot convenience and it makes perfect sense. Whereas something
makes perfect sense. Whereas something else we're going to talk about with
else we're going to talk about with Quentin is a plot convenience and I have
Quentin is a plot convenience and I have a lot of problems with that plotline.
a lot of problems with that plotline. But I wanted to bring that up here
But I wanted to bring that up here because it is important to understand.
because it is important to understand. But again, I think of another really
But again, I think of another really good chapter for Jon. I think Jon so far
good chapter for Jon. I think Jon so far is definitely been one of the stronger
is definitely been one of the stronger POVs of the book. And that'll get us
POVs of the book. And that'll get us back to Tyrion. And this is what I'm
back to Tyrion. And this is what I'm talking about, right? Like Tyrion is a
talking about, right? Like Tyrion is a dominant POV this early in the story. We
dominant POV this early in the story. We only talk about three POVs after
only talk about three POVs after Tyrion's and we're already back to him
Tyrion's and we're already back to him with Tyrion five. But Tyrion 5 is
with Tyrion five. But Tyrion 5 is definitely one of my favorite chapters,
definitely one of my favorite chapters, especially of the early part of this
especially of the early part of this book as again it's Tyrion just in his
book as again it's Tyrion just in his element, right? This is one of my
element, right? This is one of my favorite chapters from Tyrion this early
favorite chapters from Tyrion this early in the book as they're continuing their
in the book as they're continuing their journey getting past the sorrows. But
journey getting past the sorrows. But more importantly, we get the reveal of
more importantly, we get the reveal of who is in the party. Well, some of them
who is in the party. Well, some of them anyway. that young Griff is Aegon
anyway. that young Griff is Aegon Targaryen, the child of Rhaegar and
Targaryen, the child of Rhaegar and Elia, who was supposedly killed at the
Elia, who was supposedly killed at the end of Raj's rebellion. Now, we still
end of Raj's rebellion. Now, we still don't know if this is actually true, but
don't know if this is actually true, but either way, this is a massive shakeup to
either way, this is a massive shakeup to the entire story. And and that's
the entire story. And and that's regardless of if he even is a Targaryen.
regardless of if he even is a Targaryen. Him being perceived as a Targaryen is
Him being perceived as a Targaryen is huge. if he's a Blackfire,
huge. if he's a Blackfire, that has huge implications on the story.
that has huge implications on the story. And so this chapter takes this Tyrion
And so this chapter takes this Tyrion storyline that's kind of been somewhat
storyline that's kind of been somewhat muddied and really struggling to get
muddied and really struggling to get going and it just has an explosion and
going and it just has an explosion and you're sitting here going, "Whoa." But
you're sitting here going, "Whoa." But then not only that, but we also get this
then not only that, but we also get this is John Conington, one of the hands of
is John Conington, one of the hands of the king that had been exiled to Essos
the king that had been exiled to Essos after his loss at the Battle of the
after his loss at the Battle of the Bells. a lot of interesting characters
Bells. a lot of interesting characters are just revealed at this part of the
are just revealed at this part of the book for Tyrion 5. And when you look
book for Tyrion 5. And when you look back on it and you realize what is to
back on it and you realize what is to come next, you understand why this had
come next, you understand why this had to happen so quickly, why we got so many
to happen so quickly, why we got so many Tyrion chapters. And I think you can
Tyrion chapters. And I think you can make the argument that maybe Tyrion 1
make the argument that maybe Tyrion 1 and Tyrion 2 could have been combined
and Tyrion 2 could have been combined into one chapter. Maybe would have
into one chapter. Maybe would have helped the flow of this book not having
helped the flow of this book not having five Tyrion chapters within the first
five Tyrion chapters within the first 19. But you understand going forward why
19. But you understand going forward why there was so many because we need that
there was so many because we need that John Con plot to get rolling. We talk
John Con plot to get rolling. We talk about Winds of Winter how there's just
about Winds of Winter how there's just so many different plots and so much
so many different plots and so much stuff that George needs to get through.
stuff that George needs to get through. Well, think about if this plot had taken
Well, think about if this plot had taken even longer right now. I would also
even longer right now. I would also argue that the way you could have fixed
argue that the way you could have fixed this is you would have given Tyrion less
this is you would have given Tyrion less chapters going forward and given more to
chapters going forward and given more to John Con. But you know that we'll get to
John Con. But you know that we'll get to that as we go later on with Tyrion's
that as we go later on with Tyrion's arc. But right after we get this huge
arc. But right after we get this huge reveal, Tyrion also reveals himself to
reveal, Tyrion also reveals himself to the party. So, no longer is Tyrion
the party. So, no longer is Tyrion really playing the role of being this
really playing the role of being this bastard type. He is now revealed that he
bastard type. He is now revealed that he is Tyrion Lannister. At this though,
is Tyrion Lannister. At this though, they are attacked by stone men. And this
they are attacked by stone men. And this scene just plays out very horrifyingly.
scene just plays out very horrifyingly. Like these stone men could get you
Like these stone men could get you infected just by touching your skin. us,
infected just by touching your skin. us, the audience, have no idea what is going
the audience, have no idea what is going to happen here. Could this get Young
to happen here. Could this get Young Griff killed or John Conington killed or
Griff killed or John Conington killed or any of our companions killed
any of our companions killed and we end up seeing Tyrion actually
and we end up seeing Tyrion actually pushing young Griff out of the way so
pushing young Griff out of the way so that he can get this stone man off of
that he can get this stone man off of him. It shows that Tyrion does have some
him. It shows that Tyrion does have some semblance of a good morality. Now, was
semblance of a good morality. Now, was this done because Tyrion was trying to
this done because Tyrion was trying to get in good with Young Riff? Possibly.
get in good with Young Riff? Possibly. But I would go away from that idea given
But I would go away from that idea given the fact that Tyrion kind of acts just
the fact that Tyrion kind of acts just out of instinct. He does the same thing
out of instinct. He does the same thing with Catelyn Stark. It seems almost the
with Catelyn Stark. It seems almost the same, right? Tyrion has no real reason
same, right? Tyrion has no real reason to help, either Young Griff or Catelyn,
to help, either Young Griff or Catelyn, but he does so. He acts. And the chapter
but he does so. He acts. And the chapter ends with Tyrion falling and drowning.
ends with Tyrion falling and drowning. And the chapter ends with a really
And the chapter ends with a really interesting moment because it's like
interesting moment because it's like it's kind of alluding that Tyrion is
it's kind of alluding that Tyrion is going to die, but I think us, the
going to die, but I think us, the audience, we know he's not going to die.
audience, we know he's not going to die. Tyrion is not going to die by drowning
Tyrion is not going to die by drowning in a river. It's just not going to
in a river. It's just not going to happen. But the implications here are
happen. But the implications here are much more dire. Tyrion's being dragged
much more dire. Tyrion's being dragged down. Is Tyrion going to get infected
down. Is Tyrion going to get infected with Grayscale?
with Grayscale? Could it happen? What could happen
Could it happen? What could happen because of this dire moment? Tyrion
because of this dire moment? Tyrion going completely into this river filled
going completely into this river filled with the stone men possibly infected and
with the stone men possibly infected and or cursed. There's a lot there.
or cursed. There's a lot there. And so the shatter does a great job in
And so the shatter does a great job in terms of building the tension in terms
terms of building the tension in terms of having a huge plot twist that changes
of having a huge plot twist that changes up the entire story and to me is by far
up the entire story and to me is by far Tyrion's best chapter. I think probably
Tyrion's best chapter. I think probably in this book. I when I wrote it down, I
in this book. I when I wrote it down, I said best so far of my notes and of
said best so far of my notes and of these first two parts, but honestly
these first two parts, but honestly reflecting on Tyrion in this book, this
reflecting on Tyrion in this book, this is probably his best chapter within the
is probably his best chapter within the entire book. And that will get us into
entire book. And that will get us into Davos 3. Now, Davos 3, what can I say
Davos 3. Now, Davos 3, what can I say about this? It's not Davos's best
about this? It's not Davos's best chapter of the book, but it's a good one
chapter of the book, but it's a good one because this chapter, I think, of a lot
because this chapter, I think, of a lot of the chapters that are in this book,
of the chapters that are in this book, it does the best to immerse you. It
it does the best to immerse you. It almost puts you in the story, right?
almost puts you in the story, right? Because we as the audience like the
Because we as the audience like the Starks. We know what happened at the Red
Starks. We know what happened at the Red Wedding. We are kind of like the
Wedding. We are kind of like the overlooker of the world. We know all the
overlooker of the world. We know all the information.
information. But when you go into this chapter and
But when you go into this chapter and you see Davos has become more or less a
you see Davos has become more or less a prisoner. It's a luxury prisoner. Like
prisoner. It's a luxury prisoner. Like he's getting a nice cell. It's very
he's getting a nice cell. It's very similar like Sansa in book one after
similar like Sansa in book one after Ned's coup. Like she has her own
Ned's coup. Like she has her own apartments and all that, but she's not
apartments and all that, but she's not really able to go anywhere, right?
really able to go anywhere, right? That's kind of where Davos is right now.
That's kind of where Davos is right now. And so he's awaiting audience with the
And so he's awaiting audience with the Manderlys. And we see him interact with
Manderlys. And we see him interact with Wyman's court and specifically the
Wyman's court and specifically the phrase. And what is great here is
phrase. And what is great here is George makes us feel like we are in this
George makes us feel like we are in this meeting. We the audience are playing the
meeting. We the audience are playing the role of Wila Manderly because Wila
role of Wila Manderly because Wila Manderly is the one that's like no we
Manderly is the one that's like no we shouldn't be, you know, going with these
shouldn't be, you know, going with these phrase. This is wrong. The phrase suck.
phrase. This is wrong. The phrase suck. They killed Rob our king. We should help
They killed Rob our king. We should help Stannis. That's us as the audience,
Stannis. That's us as the audience, right? We know that. Like that's what
right? We know that. Like that's what they should be doing. And we're sitting
they should be doing. And we're sitting here going, why don't they do this? Why
here going, why don't they do this? Why is why mannerly believing the phrase?
is why mannerly believing the phrase? But George has already given us all
But George has already given us all those answers. He gave those answers to
those answers. He gave those answers to us in the last chapter, which is why
us in the last chapter, which is why this chapter flows so well. We already
this chapter flows so well. We already know all the information. We know that
know all the information. We know that Davos is doomed. There's still that hope
Davos is doomed. There's still that hope in us. There's still that Wa Manderly,
in us. There's still that Wa Manderly, that feeling of just we can't do
that feeling of just we can't do anything. The story is going to continue
anything. The story is going to continue with or without us. And that's what the
with or without us. And that's what the beauty of this chapter. It puts us in
beauty of this chapter. It puts us in the minds of these characters. But we
the minds of these characters. But we see how the phrase manipulate this game.
see how the phrase manipulate this game. They say the Starks win the wrong and
They say the Starks win the wrong and Wyman seems to agree with their
Wyman seems to agree with their reasoning as Rob broke this vow to marry
reasoning as Rob broke this vow to marry a Frey girl. He also turns into this
a Frey girl. He also turns into this wolf and starts attacking them during
wolf and starts attacking them during the wedding and so do the Stark men,
the wedding and so do the Stark men, painting the Starks as the bad guys. the
painting the Starks as the bad guys. the arrogance of the phrase in this moment.
arrogance of the phrase in this moment. But in reality, when you think about it,
But in reality, when you think about it, there was I mean, nobody was there, so
there was I mean, nobody was there, so nobody exactly knows what happens.
nobody exactly knows what happens. Again, the phrase can kind of spread
Again, the phrase can kind of spread this lie, but we all know this is
this lie, but we all know this is [ __ ] at the same time, but it all
[ __ ] at the same time, but it all sets up perfectly to the reveal we're
sets up perfectly to the reveal we're going to get in the next chapter because
going to get in the next chapter because all this makes sense. Wyman is stuck in
all this makes sense. Wyman is stuck in this situation where his son is a
this situation where his son is a hostage. The phrase have men here in
hostage. The phrase have men here in White Harbor to make sure that he is
White Harbor to make sure that he is loyal. He has to play this game, right?
loyal. He has to play this game, right? He can't straight out say that, "Oh
He can't straight out say that, "Oh yeah, I'm going to back Davos." The
yeah, I'm going to back Davos." The phrase suck. He has to play this game.
phrase suck. He has to play this game. And so we come to the end of this
And so we come to the end of this chapter and Davos loses the argument and
chapter and Davos loses the argument and is sentenced to death, which again lines
is sentenced to death, which again lines up exactly with what we know happens in
up exactly with what we know happens in Feast for Crows. In Feast for Crows, in
Feast for Crows. In Feast for Crows, in one of Cersei's middle chapters, we
one of Cersei's middle chapters, we learn that yes, Davos is killed at White
learn that yes, Davos is killed at White Harbor. And that's what prompts the
Harbor. And that's what prompts the phrase to release Wyman's son.
phrase to release Wyman's son. Now, with this being said, though, we're
Now, with this being said, though, we're left with the conclusion of what is to
left with the conclusion of what is to happen with Davos. We don't see him die
happen with Davos. We don't see him die on screen in this chapter. He's just
on screen in this chapter. He's just being arrested. But it seems pretty
being arrested. But it seems pretty bleak, right? Like, what can Manley
bleak, right? Like, what can Manley really do? He seems publicly to be
really do? He seems publicly to be backing the phrase. He has a knife to
backing the phrase. He has a knife to his back. There's not a lot he can
his back. There's not a lot he can really do. And it continues to make
really do. And it continues to make Davos one of my favorite POVs of this
Davos one of my favorite POVs of this book. And that concludes it. Again, that
book. And that concludes it. Again, that is one of the best chapters of this
is one of the best chapters of this early part of the book. I think I had it
early part of the book. I think I had it in my top five if I'm not mistaken. As
in my top five if I'm not mistaken. As of right now, it's not in my top five,
of right now, it's not in my top five, but it's number six, but it is one of
but it's number six, but it is one of the best of this book by far. We talked
the best of this book by far. We talked about firstly Theon one or week one in
about firstly Theon one or week one in this retrospective, but now we're with
this retrospective, but now we're with Theon 2. And again, this is a really
Theon 2. And again, this is a really good chapter for Theon. It kind of
good chapter for Theon. It kind of builds, it takes everything that was
builds, it takes everything that was great about the first chapter and just
great about the first chapter and just heightens it. It makes it more plot
heightens it. It makes it more plot relevant. It gives us more time to
relevant. It gives us more time to expand Theon's logic and how he is as a
expand Theon's logic and how he is as a person. How is his mental health at this
person. How is his mental health at this time? Very awful at this time. We see
time? Very awful at this time. We see that Theon is being cleaned up for his
that Theon is being cleaned up for his role to play his past self with the goal
role to play his past self with the goal of taking Mo Kalin still occupy the
of taking Mo Kalin still occupy the Ironborn. Now, what does this setup
Ironborn. Now, what does this setup already do? It puts us in the mind of
already do? It puts us in the mind of Reek trying to play his former self. So,
Reek trying to play his former self. So, it's again him having that split
it's again him having that split personality of of his younger self of
personality of of his younger self of reflecting on his actions, things that
reflecting on his actions, things that he did, the mistakes he may have made or
he did, the mistakes he may have made or the people that he used to care about.
the people that he used to care about. But it also takes that part of it. It
But it also takes that part of it. It takes the Stark side of him and it also
takes the Stark side of him and it also puts that in direct conflict with his
puts that in direct conflict with his Ironborn side as well as he also is
Ironborn side as well as he also is having to play the role of being the
having to play the role of being the prince of the Ironborn. taking control
prince of the Ironborn. taking control of them and making them surrender,
of them and making them surrender, offering them generous terms. It's a
offering them generous terms. It's a really great chapter because it takes
really great chapter because it takes all these things that are pivotal to
all these things that are pivotal to this character this moment and puts it
this character this moment and puts it right there. But the beauty comes from,
right there. But the beauty comes from, I think, the psychological torture that
I think, the psychological torture that Theon has gone through. Even in this
Theon has gone through. Even in this situation where Theon could try and run,
situation where Theon could try and run, he could get himself killed, let the
he could get himself killed, let the Ironborn kill him, do any of these
Ironborn kill him, do any of these things to escape what he's going
things to escape what he's going through. He's still scared. He is
through. He's still scared. He is someone that I think most people are
someone that I think most people are scared of what comes after death right
scared of what comes after death right is there some sort of afterlife is there
is there some sort of afterlife is there nothing that's what theon could be
nothing that's what theon could be feeling that you know even though all
feeling that you know even though all these torture all this torture is
these torture all this torture is horrible you know that is also another
horrible you know that is also another thing is the fear of the unknown and
thing is the fear of the unknown and theon subconsciously wants to die but at
theon subconsciously wants to die but at the same time he doesn't do it and so
the same time he doesn't do it and so you have a lot of things that are very
you have a lot of things that are very compelling for the character of Theon
compelling for the character of Theon that that kind of gets Theon to
that that kind of gets Theon to remembering ing, you know, the last time
remembering ing, you know, the last time coming here with Rob and the choices
coming here with Rob and the choices that he made. Again, he recounts
that he made. Again, he recounts basically the Catelyn chapter of coming
basically the Catelyn chapter of coming to Mo Kalin of where all they were
to Mo Kalin of where all they were situated in these towers and all the
situated in these towers and all the 20,000 men going south. But at the same
20,000 men going south. But at the same time, we see a bit of Theon come back as
time, we see a bit of Theon come back as he takes control and Mo Kalin and
he takes control and Mo Kalin and convinces them to leave the castle.
convinces them to leave the castle. Unfortunately for those men, they are
Unfortunately for those men, they are killed, but Theon gets a reward. And
killed, but Theon gets a reward. And this again shows the power dynamic of
this again shows the power dynamic of how low Theon is. Even when faced with
how low Theon is. Even when faced with as being able to get a reward, all Theon
as being able to get a reward, all Theon asks for is wine.
asks for is wine. And what does Theon get promoted to? Not
And what does Theon get promoted to? Not to a normal human, but to a dog. We see
to a normal human, but to a dog. We see the mental games Ramsay is playing,
the mental games Ramsay is playing, keeping Theon as this pet that is
keeping Theon as this pet that is completely damaged. But we end the
completely damaged. But we end the chapter meeting Roose Bolton and the
chapter meeting Roose Bolton and the phrase. But he also realizes that the
phrase. But he also realizes that the Arya that they have brought with them is
Arya that they have brought with them is not actually Arya, which us the audience
not actually Arya, which us the audience already knew. This isn't really like
already knew. This isn't really like this big twist for of us, the reader.
this big twist for of us, the reader. But it's a really cool twist for Theon
But it's a really cool twist for Theon because we're going to put again
because we're going to put again something that connects Theon to his
something that connects Theon to his past. We're going to connect him with
past. We're going to connect him with Jane Pool, someone that he would have
Jane Pool, someone that he would have known. And so that's interesting. But it
known. And so that's interesting. But it also unravels that well, we already knew
also unravels that well, we already knew that the Boltons were planning to marry
that the Boltons were planning to marry a fake Arya. Mechanism 2, chapter 22,
a fake Arya. Mechanism 2, chapter 22, John 5. And chapter 5, just like I
John 5. And chapter 5, just like I talked about chapter 4, it's kind of the
talked about chapter 4, it's kind of the end of John's early book arc. It's a
end of John's early book arc. It's a chapter mainly used to refocus Jon's
chapter mainly used to refocus Jon's plot. At this time, we're going to see
plot. At this time, we're going to see Jon as he try as he tries to recruit
Jon as he try as he tries to recruit wildlings into the watch. Um, not
wildlings into the watch. Um, not exactly into the watch. It's more like
exactly into the watch. It's more like defending the wall. they don't have to
defending the wall. they don't have to say the vows or wear a black cloak or
say the vows or wear a black cloak or any of those things, but he's trying to
any of those things, but he's trying to get the wildlings to help him and help
get the wildlings to help him and help the watch, but he's also trying to give
the watch, but he's also trying to give them food and all these things. So, we
them food and all these things. So, we see Jon traveling to Molestown. And
see Jon traveling to Molestown. And again, what is the focus of Jon's story
again, what is the focus of Jon's story going to be going forward? It's going to
going to be going forward? It's going to be integrating the wildlings into the
be integrating the wildlings into the watch. But what he does is he doesn't do
watch. But what he does is he doesn't do anything. He doesn't explain to the
anything. He doesn't explain to the people why this is an is a necessity.
people why this is an is a necessity. Us, the viewers are inside John's head.
Us, the viewers are inside John's head. We know why this is a necessity and
We know why this is a necessity and needs to happen, but others do not. And
needs to happen, but others do not. And again, this is a not a very long chapter
again, this is a not a very long chapter for John. It doesn't have a lot in here
for John. It doesn't have a lot in here that really needs to be discussed, but I
that really needs to be discussed, but I find the chapter good for exploring why
find the chapter good for exploring why Jon is killed. Again, it's not really
Jon is killed. Again, it's not really explaining or expanding on his reasoning
explaining or expanding on his reasoning to Marsh or the Watch into why they are
to Marsh or the Watch into why they are allowing the wildlings to help. Think
allowing the wildlings to help. Think about what Jon is asking. John is asking
about what Jon is asking. John is asking for not only wildlings to be part of the
for not only wildlings to be part of the wall, but women.
wall, but women. Well, there's a big reason as to why the
Well, there's a big reason as to why the watch doesn't allow women and why that
watch doesn't allow women and why that you're not allowed to take a wive or
you're not allowed to take a wive or anything like that because it's going to
anything like that because it's going to shift your loyalties. And so, it puts
shift your loyalties. And so, it puts that to the test. Should there be these
that to the test. Should there be these wildling women on the wall trying to
wildling women on the wall trying to defend it? Should there be wildlings and
defend it? Should there be wildlings and knights watchmen together who who knows?
knights watchmen together who who knows? they can't really trust each other. And
they can't really trust each other. And an army that can't trust one another
an army that can't trust one another isn't really an army. So, you're putting
isn't really an army. So, you're putting two groups of people together and you're
two groups of people together and you're just mashing them together. You're not
just mashing them together. You're not trying to let each side understand why
trying to let each side understand why this is necessary. You're just kind of
this is necessary. You're just kind of mashing two brick walls together and
mashing two brick walls together and hoping they mix. It's just not the best
hoping they mix. It's just not the best way of going about things. But again,
way of going about things. But again, really what I think George wanted to do
really what I think George wanted to do with this chapter is again integrating
with this chapter is again integrating starting that process of integrating the
starting that process of integrating the Wildlings into the wall, but also
Wildlings into the wall, but also showing Jon's lack of communication to
showing Jon's lack of communication to be crucial to his arc. Now, this gets us
be crucial to his arc. Now, this gets us to a very conflicting chapter for me.
to a very conflicting chapter for me. Uh, Tyrion 6. It's a really, really
Uh, Tyrion 6. It's a really, really weird one because the first half I love.
weird one because the first half I love. I love the first half of Furion waking
I love the first half of Furion waking up from being saved by Griff and all
up from being saved by Griff and all that comes with that, but I really enjoy
that comes with that, but I really enjoy what we get between young Griff and
what we get between young Griff and Tyrion because it's Tyrion being at his
Tyrion because it's Tyrion being at his best, you know, manipulating people,
best, you know, manipulating people, talking to people, and getting them to
talking to people, and getting them to do what he wants them to do. And so, we
do what he wants them to do. And so, we see young Griff and Tyrion playing Sas.
see young Griff and Tyrion playing Sas. And Tyrion gives Young Griff some very
And Tyrion gives Young Griff some very interesting lessons and things that are
interesting lessons and things that are going to be crucial going forward with
going to be crucial going forward with the story. He tells young Griff that he
the story. He tells young Griff that he should go to Westeros again. Going to
should go to Westeros again. Going to Westeros is very beneficial. The realm
Westeros is very beneficial. The realm is not united at the time. Cersei is
is not united at the time. Cersei is basically in control. We see how that
basically in control. We see how that worked out in Feast for Crow. So we know
worked out in Feast for Crow. So we know Tyrion is right. The North is an open
Tyrion is right. The North is an open rebellion. The Driberlands are all
rebellion. The Driberlands are all screwed up at this time. The Westerlands
screwed up at this time. The Westerlands power has been completely weakened
power has been completely weakened during this time period. The Dornish are
during this time period. The Dornish are ripe for rebellion. We know that to also
ripe for rebellion. We know that to also be true. So Tyrion says, "Take this
be true. So Tyrion says, "Take this Golden Company army and go Westeros."
Golden Company army and go Westeros." And we also see another rationale that
And we also see another rationale that Tyrion uses to justify this. If he goes
Tyrion uses to justify this. If he goes to Dany, he's going to look like a
to Dany, he's going to look like a beggar. He's going to be looking like
beggar. He's going to be looking like someone that is asking for her hand.
someone that is asking for her hand. They're not going to meet on equal
They're not going to meet on equal terms. It's going to be kind of like the
terms. It's going to be kind of like the way Quentyn goes about asking for Dany.
way Quentyn goes about asking for Dany. And so we see a lot of this play out.
And so we see a lot of this play out. But what we end up seeing is that Tyrion
But what we end up seeing is that Tyrion during the Savas game was also lying to
during the Savas game was also lying to him, trying to get young Griff to do
him, trying to get young Griff to do things like keeping his dragon away from
things like keeping his dragon away from his king so that he can beat him in this
his king so that he can beat him in this game. That's what ends up happening. We
game. That's what ends up happening. We see that Tyrion's point is driven home.
see that Tyrion's point is driven home. Trust no one. Because that's how Tyrion
Trust no one. Because that's how Tyrion thinks. He doesn't trust anyone. He is a
thinks. He doesn't trust anyone. He is a very pessimistic person. And I don't
very pessimistic person. And I don't really think that's the outlook you
really think that's the outlook you should have in the world. I think you
should have in the world. I think you can trust certain people. You just need
can trust certain people. You just need to be understanding of who you can trust
to be understanding of who you can trust and who you cannot trust. And so Tyrion
and who you cannot trust. And so Tyrion gets the better of Young Griff. And
gets the better of Young Griff. And Young Griff has a bit of that Targaryen
Young Griff has a bit of that Targaryen fieryness to him. Something that people
fieryness to him. Something that people have speculated on in the future of how
have speculated on in the future of how Young Griff is going to be. Young Griff
Young Griff is going to be. Young Griff basically rage quits. He knocks the
basically rage quits. He knocks the board and the pieces to the side. He
board and the pieces to the side. He forces Tyrion to clean them up. Very
forces Tyrion to clean them up. Very similar to the way Joffrey has like
similar to the way Joffrey has like Tyrion pick up his goblet during the
Tyrion pick up his goblet during the purple wedding. And all of this is very
purple wedding. And all of this is very interesting because it paints a lot of
interesting because it paints a lot of what we could see between the characters
what we could see between the characters of young Griff and Tyrion going forward.
of young Griff and Tyrion going forward. But the second half is where you get a
But the second half is where you get a little eh not so good in this chapter
little eh not so good in this chapter because it takes place in a town where
because it takes place in a town where they are to get some information on the
they are to get some information on the political climate going on with the war
political climate going on with the war in Meereen. But more importantly, we see
in Meereen. But more importantly, we see Tyrion's dark side as he pays for sex
Tyrion's dark side as he pays for sex and even asks for the woman to kill him
and even asks for the woman to kill him as he is suicidal. And there's some
as he is suicidal. And there's some really dark things that going go on here
really dark things that going go on here in terms of really bad alcoholism, in
in terms of really bad alcoholism, in terms of Tyrion, you know, raping this
terms of Tyrion, you know, raping this girl, in terms of just Tyrion being a
girl, in terms of just Tyrion being a awful human being. And eventually, why I
awful human being. And eventually, why I say this is a mixed bag chapter, not
say this is a mixed bag chapter, not only for those bad things that we see
only for those bad things that we see from Tyrion,
from Tyrion, but he is eventually captured by Jorah,
but he is eventually captured by Jorah, starting probably the worst plot line of
starting probably the worst plot line of the book. I think it's like this
the book. I think it's like this plotline plus Quentyn's plotline are
plotline plus Quentyn's plotline are probably the worst two of this book. I
probably the worst two of this book. I personally cannot think of a single
personally cannot think of a single chapter I like of Tyrion's after this
chapter I like of Tyrion's after this moment. And so it is that point. And
moment. And so it is that point. And another thing I find that's
another thing I find that's kind of a big problem I think George has
kind of a big problem I think George has in this book specifically,
in this book specifically, it just seems like a really big plot
it just seems like a really big plot convenience. like really out of every
convenience. like really out of every single brothel that Tyrion could go to,
single brothel that Tyrion could go to, he ends up going to the one with Jorah
he ends up going to the one with Jorah in it. And it's not one of those things
in it. And it's not one of those things where you can point to, oh well, in book
where you can point to, oh well, in book one, the same thing happens with Tyrion
one, the same thing happens with Tyrion and Catelyn. It's like, no, because both
and Catelyn. It's like, no, because both were heading towards the crossroad in
were heading towards the crossroad in and so it made sense. It's a logical hub
and so it made sense. It's a logical hub of where things would happen and where
of where things would happen and where you would go either to the west, the
you would go either to the west, the east, the north, or the south. This, it
east, the north, or the south. This, it just feels very random. it feels like
just feels very random. it feels like very convenient. And again, that's not
very convenient. And again, that's not bad to have every once in a while.
bad to have every once in a while. That's not to say conveniences are a bad
That's not to say conveniences are a bad thing, but it's when you have a lot of
thing, but it's when you have a lot of them, that's when you start to like look
them, that's when you start to like look at these and go, I don't know if that
at these and go, I don't know if that was the best point here. And the really
was the best point here. And the really I think the difficult part George has
I think the difficult part George has here is George had to come to an idea
here is George had to come to an idea where how does Tyrion now get away from
where how does Tyrion now get away from the young griff group to go to Daenerys?
the young griff group to go to Daenerys? That's the issue.
That's the issue. And I think how would you have willingly
And I think how would you have willingly gotten Tyrion away from them? That could
gotten Tyrion away from them? That could have been something difficult. Now what
have been something difficult. Now what you could have explored and this could
you could have explored and this could be something interesting that would have
be something interesting that would have I think worked a lot better is if we
I think worked a lot better is if we would have seen Tyrion actually
would have seen Tyrion actually willingly leave Young, willingly leave
willingly leave Young, willingly leave our party and try to search for Tisha.
our party and try to search for Tisha. One of the big things we see throughout
One of the big things we see throughout this entire plotline is Tyrion looking
this entire plotline is Tyrion looking for her. Where do [ __ ] go? And he's
for her. Where do [ __ ] go? And he's not going to be able to really bind that
not going to be able to really bind that with Dany and Young Griff. So you could
with Dany and Young Griff. So you could have his personal motivations kind of
have his personal motivations kind of getting through in terms of finding love
getting through in terms of finding love again. So that would have been something
again. So that would have been something where maybe he breaks off from their
where maybe he breaks off from their party and then maybe while he's out at
party and then maybe while he's out at these docks, maybe we have like a this
these docks, maybe we have like a this chapter, the second half of this chapter
chapter, the second half of this chapter is just him kind of wandering around in
is just him kind of wandering around in the city and eventually he's spotted.
the city and eventually he's spotted. That way it feels much more natural uh
That way it feels much more natural uh in terms of like people would have known
in terms of like people would have known that there was a dwarf going around and
that there was a dwarf going around and then maybe Jorah would have heard this
then maybe Jorah would have heard this and found him. It just doesn't feel as
and found him. It just doesn't feel as natural in terms of just Jorah being in
natural in terms of just Jorah being in the same brothless Tyrion at the same
the same brothless Tyrion at the same time, a complete coincidence. It just
time, a complete coincidence. It just doesn't really feel right to me. But I
doesn't really feel right to me. But I get why George did it. I just think it
get why George did it. I just think it could have been executed a bit better in
could have been executed a bit better in my opinion. That gets us into chapter
my opinion. That gets us into chapter 24, Danny 4. Again, another chapter that
24, Danny 4. Again, another chapter that has kind of its strengths and its
has kind of its strengths and its weaknesses. On one hand, I really like
weaknesses. On one hand, I really like the opening of this chapter with the
the opening of this chapter with the green grace and Danny. It oozes
green grace and Danny. It oozes suspicion. Something is not really right
suspicion. Something is not really right here. The green grace once again is
here. The green grace once again is talking down to Dany, kind of putting
talking down to Dany, kind of putting him her in her place, kind of knowing
him her in her place, kind of knowing information that it seems very
information that it seems very suspicious that she already knows before
suspicious that she already knows before Daenerys even tells her. But not only
Daenerys even tells her. But not only that, but we also have reflections of
that, but we also have reflections of the past. Dany trusting older women or
the past. Dany trusting older women or women, very similar to me. It's very
women, very similar to me. It's very apparent given that I just got done
apparent given that I just got done doing my review of the Miriam Mazdor
doing my review of the Miriam Mazdor chapter where she meets Dany. It almost
chapter where she meets Dany. It almost feels so similar here. But one of the
feels so similar here. But one of the things that comes out of this
things that comes out of this conversation is that the green grace
conversation is that the green grace suggests the only way to fix this
suggests the only way to fix this situation is for her to marry someone
situation is for her to marry someone with old Gishcari blood. Someone that
with old Gishcari blood. Someone that the Marines people can get behind. That
the Marines people can get behind. That leads to the Hisdar plot. Before we get
leads to the Hisdar plot. Before we get there, I want to talk about another
there, I want to talk about another interesting moral question that is
interesting moral question that is brought up here. The green grace kind of
brought up here. The green grace kind of brings up they have hostages.
brings up they have hostages. Why don't they kill them? Like why
Why don't they kill them? Like why doesn't Danny kill the hostages when
doesn't Danny kill the hostages when there are people dying? Free men are
there are people dying? Free men are dying. Her people are dying, but she's
dying. Her people are dying, but she's not using these hostages. And it's a
not using these hostages. And it's a part of again Danny is someone that is
part of again Danny is someone that is not a bad person. She tries to be a good
not a bad person. She tries to be a good person and she likes a lot of these
person and she likes a lot of these people, a lot of these young children
people, a lot of these young children that she's being given as hostages.
that she's being given as hostages. She's starting to enjoy them. And that's
She's starting to enjoy them. And that's the issue because it comes back to this
the issue because it comes back to this idea that Ned talks about that John and
idea that Ned talks about that John and Rob try to kind of go with or go through
Rob try to kind of go with or go through with. Don't be friends of people that
with. Don't be friends of people that are your subordinates. You may have to
are your subordinates. You may have to kill them one day or send them off to be
kill them one day or send them off to be killed. Especially in the case of Theon.
killed. Especially in the case of Theon. Ned never got close to Theon because Ned
Ned never got close to Theon because Ned knew he might one day have to kill
knew he might one day have to kill Theon. That's something that Dany
Theon. That's something that Dany doesn't do. And that's some advice that
doesn't do. And that's some advice that she probably sorely needs. I like all
she probably sorely needs. I like all that. But on the flip side, I find the
that. But on the flip side, I find the romance side of this chapter, which is
romance side of this chapter, which is the back half, to just be kind of
the back half, to just be kind of boring, kind of repetitive. It's just
boring, kind of repetitive. It's just Danny has so many love interests over
Danny has so many love interests over the entirety of the series. She also is
the entirety of the series. She also is someone that consistently thinks about
someone that consistently thinks about Dar Daario early on in this book. It
Dar Daario early on in this book. It just gets so repetitive. It's Dany
just gets so repetitive. It's Dany setting up the terms of a marriage with
setting up the terms of a marriage with Hizdar. If he can keep the peace and no
Hizdar. If he can keep the peace and no killings happen for 90 days, she will
killings happen for 90 days, she will marry him, albeit she doesn't really
marry him, albeit she doesn't really like him that much and even kisses him
like him that much and even kisses him to see if there's any type of, you know,
to see if there's any type of, you know, thing there. There isn't really. And so
thing there. There isn't really. And so Danny just sees it kind of as a win-win
Danny just sees it kind of as a win-win type scenario. If he can give the peace
type scenario. If he can give the peace for 90 days, well, at least she saved
for 90 days, well, at least she saved her people and it shows that there can
her people and it shows that there can be some stability. But on the other side
be some stability. But on the other side of it, if again he doesn't, it just kind
of it, if again he doesn't, it just kind of force stalls stuff like the marriage
of force stalls stuff like the marriage for now. And then we get to see Daario
for now. And then we get to see Daario and Daario comes back and Danny's real
and Daario comes back and Danny's real excited. She's getting all dressed up
excited. She's getting all dressed up and then he just knows she can't be with
and then he just knows she can't be with him. You know, he's a cell sword. And so
him. You know, he's a cell sword. And so part of this angers her, but it also
part of this angers her, but it also angers her because Daario tries to give
angers her because Daario tries to give her advice, telling her to be a dragon,
her advice, telling her to be a dragon, telling her to strike at her enemies,
telling her to strike at her enemies, killing the masters. And that's not who
killing the masters. And that's not who Dany is at this point. Danny is someone
Dany is at this point. Danny is someone that's not morally bad. She tries to be
that's not morally bad. She tries to be a good person and so she struggles with
a good person and so she struggles with that. It's something that the mer plot
that. It's something that the mer plot is pushing her further and further to
is pushing her further and further to the edge of how does she again get these
the edge of how does she again get these people to respect her, get these people
people to respect her, get these people to stop killing each other and bring
to stop killing each other and bring order to to Meereen? How does she do
order to to Meereen? How does she do that? And that's something she struggles
that? And that's something she struggles with a lot. So I there are bits and
with a lot. So I there are bits and pieces of this chapter I really love.
pieces of this chapter I really love. There's bits and pieces of the chapter I
There's bits and pieces of the chapter I really dislike. And that's kind of where
really dislike. And that's kind of where I am with Danny at times in this book.
I am with Danny at times in this book. But again, I don't think it's a bad
But again, I don't think it's a bad chapter at all. But I do think out of
chapter at all. But I do think out of the Danny chapter so far, probably her
the Danny chapter so far, probably her weakest. But just as I say that, this is
weakest. But just as I say that, this is probably my least favorite Dany chapter.
probably my least favorite Dany chapter. George once again seems to interspice
George once again seems to interspice his chapters perfectly. And I want to
his chapters perfectly. And I want to just kind of look at the next three
just kind of look at the next three chapters as they are the last three
chapters as they are the last three we're going to be doing in this
we're going to be doing in this retrospective for this part. We have a
retrospective for this part. We have a Danny chapter that's not so good,
Danny chapter that's not so good, followed by a John Con chapter, his
followed by a John Con chapter, his first one, one of the best chapters of
first one, one of the best chapters of the book, very highly rated for me and
the book, very highly rated for me and is my favorite of the first 27.
is my favorite of the first 27. We then get a Quentyn chapter, one of
We then get a Quentyn chapter, one of the worst chapters of the book, the
the worst chapters of the book, the second worst for me at this point. And
second worst for me at this point. And then we're followed up by another banger
then we're followed up by another banger in an Asha chapter. It really does show
in an Asha chapter. It really does show that I feel like George knows kind of
that I feel like George knows kind of his weaker chapters and he follows them
his weaker chapters and he follows them up with great chapters to kind of hide
up with great chapters to kind of hide them a little bit in his book. And so I
them a little bit in his book. And so I really love that because that's been a
really love that because that's been a consistent thing that I've seen in both
consistent thing that I've seen in both Feast for Crows and A Dance of Dragons
Feast for Crows and A Dance of Dragons in this book. So John Con 1 is a chapter
in this book. So John Con 1 is a chapter that I remember when I first started
that I remember when I first started reading this book, did not know we were
reading this book, did not know we were going to get this POV. I did not know
going to get this POV. I did not know that we were going to have this, but
that we were going to have this, but looking back it makes sense, right? You
looking back it makes sense, right? You can't really just introduce the Young
can't really just introduce the Young Griff plotline and then Tyrion leaves
Griff plotline and then Tyrion leaves and then just have no plot point here or
and then just have no plot point here or no POV here. And so John Conington is
no POV here. And so John Conington is the perfect POV because he reminds you
the perfect POV because he reminds you so much of Ned. He is someone that
so much of Ned. He is someone that reflects on the decisions he's made in
reflects on the decisions he's made in the past. He is someone that's a very
the past. He is someone that's a very complex character that has strengths and
complex character that has strengths and weaknesses. And we get a look into the
weaknesses. And we get a look into the history of the Battle of the Bells. But
history of the Battle of the Bells. But we see that John Khan is someone that is
we see that John Khan is someone that is highly untrusting of some of the people
highly untrusting of some of the people below him as again Tyrion has been lost.
below him as again Tyrion has been lost. something that would have been a very
something that would have been a very valuable piece being that he is Tyrion
valuable piece being that he is Tyrion Lannister and he was lost. But we see
Lannister and he was lost. But we see John Khan and Co heading to the Golden
John Khan and Co heading to the Golden Company's camp. We get to learn on their
Company's camp. We get to learn on their history and customs, which is always fun
history and customs, which is always fun to reread given the uh context of the
to reread given the uh context of the Duncan Egg novellas and what goes on
Duncan Egg novellas and what goes on there. It's just a really awesome
there. It's just a really awesome chapter that provides a lot of worldb
chapter that provides a lot of worldb building to the lore of the Blackfire
building to the lore of the Blackfire Rebellions and Bitter Steel and the
Rebellions and Bitter Steel and the Golden Company as a whole, how they
Golden Company as a whole, how they operate. Really fantastic chapter that I
operate. Really fantastic chapter that I love. We see the military leadership and
love. We see the military leadership and how it's changed uh from I believe it's
how it's changed uh from I believe it's Blackheart to now Harry um Strickland.
Blackheart to now Harry um Strickland. And I really love that because this is
And I really love that because this is kind of the reveal of Young Griff where
kind of the reveal of Young Griff where young Griff comes out looking like a
young Griff comes out looking like a prince. He's not just this, you know,
prince. He's not just this, you know, knight's squire or cells sword squire.
knight's squire or cells sword squire. He's now looking more like a Targaryen.
He's now looking more like a Targaryen. He's wearing rubies, fine clothing. And
He's wearing rubies, fine clothing. And we see Young Griff kind of reveal
we see Young Griff kind of reveal himself to the Golden Company. Now, what
himself to the Golden Company. Now, what I find is interesting here is that the
I find is interesting here is that the Golden Company are quite frustrated with
Golden Company are quite frustrated with the situation going on. There's been all
the situation going on. There's been all these different type of plans. First it
these different type of plans. First it was Viseris, then it was Daenerys was
was Viseris, then it was Daenerys was supposed to be they were supposed to
supposed to be they were supposed to back Daenerys, but then all those plans
back Daenerys, but then all those plans went ary. Now we're here with Young
went ary. Now we're here with Young Griff. And Young Griff steps up. He
Griff. And Young Griff steps up. He takes this chance, this thing that we
takes this chance, this thing that we haven't seen him do. And he really
haven't seen him do. And he really basically takes Tyrion's advice and uses
basically takes Tyrion's advice and uses it. He tells them, "Screw Daenerys.
it. He tells them, "Screw Daenerys. Screw trying to get to Meereine cuz
Screw trying to get to Meereine cuz that's insanely difficult. We've seen
that's insanely difficult. We've seen that with Quentyn's chapter.
that with Quentyn's chapter. Let's go to Wester. It's ripe for
Let's go to Wester. It's ripe for conquest." And at this, the Golden
conquest." And at this, the Golden Company realize they have a new leader.
Company realize they have a new leader. They realize is to be their king and to
They realize is to be their king and to lead them back home. Again, this is by
lead them back home. Again, this is by far my favorite chapter of the first 27.
far my favorite chapter of the first 27. I am a big sucker for the Blackfire lore
I am a big sucker for the Blackfire lore at this time. I love Young Griff. He's
at this time. I love Young Griff. He's one of my favorite characters going into
one of my favorite characters going into the next book. I'll give you guys a bit
the next book. I'll give you guys a bit of a spoiler for my other series going
of a spoiler for my other series going on right now. My hundred top 100
on right now. My hundred top 100 characters of A Song of Fire. Young
characters of A Song of Fire. Young Griff is unfortunately not on that list
Griff is unfortunately not on that list just because we haven't gotten a lot
just because we haven't gotten a lot with the character, but I'm really
with the character, but I'm really looking forward to getting more of this
looking forward to getting more of this character personally. Um, but yeah, it's
character personally. Um, but yeah, it's just this awesome chapter. It feels a
just this awesome chapter. It feels a lot like for instance Rob Stark's King
lot like for instance Rob Stark's King of the North chapter where it's like Rob
of the North chapter where it's like Rob coming into his own. Now, it's very
coming into his own. Now, it's very different because Rob in that is not
different because Rob in that is not really declaring himself as king. That's
really declaring himself as king. That's his bannerman. But here it's Young Griff
his bannerman. But here it's Young Griff proving his worth and them kind of
proving his worth and them kind of making the him their king. It's one of
making the him their king. It's one of those things. It feels very similar. And
those things. It feels very similar. And so I love everything this chapter does
so I love everything this chapter does and it's very vital that it's placed
and it's very vital that it's placed here because then we get Quentin 2. And
here because then we get Quentin 2. And I'm going to have a fairly big rant here
I'm going to have a fairly big rant here about Quentyn's character so far. And
about Quentyn's character so far. And that gets us to Quentyn 2. So Quentyn 2
that gets us to Quentyn 2. So Quentyn 2 is a chapter that it's slightly better
is a chapter that it's slightly better than the first one, which isn't saying
than the first one, which isn't saying much. If you guys remember, my rant for
much. If you guys remember, my rant for Quentyn one was a chapter that was
Quentyn one was a chapter that was unneeded. Didn't make really much sense
unneeded. Didn't make really much sense for this plot line to even exist. That
for this plot line to even exist. That didn't change in this chapter. Again,
didn't change in this chapter. Again, the only reason this chapter is more
the only reason this chapter is more interesting is because we get more of
interesting is because we get more of like the tattered prince and we also get
like the tattered prince and we also get like some battle stuff with Astapore.
like some battle stuff with Astapore. But what do we really get out of this
But what do we really get out of this chapter? It's a somewhat long chapter.
chapter? It's a somewhat long chapter. It's a chapter in which we learn that
It's a chapter in which we learn that Astapor has fallen and some of the stuff
Astapor has fallen and some of the stuff that we already learned with Daenerys's
that we already learned with Daenerys's chapter in terms of Yunkai and Astapor,
chapter in terms of Yunkai and Astapor, it just doesn't matter. I mean, nothing
it just doesn't matter. I mean, nothing in this chapter really adds anything to
in this chapter really adds anything to the story. And this is why I think one
the story. And this is why I think one of my biggest complaints with the early
of my biggest complaints with the early start of this book, very similar to Sam
start of this book, very similar to Sam in Feast for Crows,
in Feast for Crows, Quentyn
Quentyn didn't need to be introduced in terms of
didn't need to be introduced in terms of a POV if he wanted to until he meets
a POV if he wanted to until he meets Daenerys.
Daenerys. He just doesn't because once then he
He just doesn't because once then he actually gets to Marine, then you can
actually gets to Marine, then you can kind of explore his character. The only
kind of explore his character. The only thing that I can see as to why George
thing that I can see as to why George put this character and gave him more
put this character and gave him more POVs is because he dies at the end. And
POVs is because he dies at the end. And so you want him to be more of a
so you want him to be more of a character we like so it hits harder and
character we like so it hits harder and give him more time to develop. But the
give him more time to develop. But the problem becomes I find the character to
problem becomes I find the character to be every time he's a chapter he slows
be every time he's a chapter he slows down the pace. It comes down all the way
down the pace. It comes down all the way down to a crawl. And this chapter just
down to a crawl. And this chapter just does not and this character doesn't
does not and this character doesn't really have much going for him. Like
really have much going for him. Like there's not much in terms of defining an
there's not much in terms of defining an actual character. like the best we've
actual character. like the best we've got is he feels like he maybe is not
got is he feels like he maybe is not worthy of Daenerys. He's not the most
worthy of Daenerys. He's not the most attractive guy. Um and maybe some stuff
attractive guy. Um and maybe some stuff in terms of like honor, right? Breaking
in terms of like honor, right? Breaking oaths. Like that's something that could
oaths. Like that's something that could be interesting to explore in this
be interesting to explore in this chapter. It's one of the only things I
chapter. It's one of the only things I find interesting in this chapter. But
find interesting in this chapter. But like
like why is this character here? He's not
why is this character here? He's not interesting.
interesting. There's no reason to have this this
There's no reason to have this this character. It's very similar in my
character. It's very similar in my opinion to like Tyrion later on where
opinion to like Tyrion later on where it's like we just don't need like nine
it's like we just don't need like nine chapters or whatever it is of just
chapters or whatever it is of just Tyrion being a slave and all of that. It
Tyrion being a slave and all of that. It just you don't need it. And so I'm not
just you don't need it. And so I'm not going to really explain the tire too
going to really explain the tire too much, but more or less what we get is we
much, but more or less what we get is we see Quentyn with the windb blown, how
see Quentyn with the windb blown, how they've taken part in this battle um
they've taken part in this battle um with Astapore and it was kind of a
with Astapore and it was kind of a slaughter. It wasn't really even a
slaughter. It wasn't really even a fight. All of this we kind of already
fight. All of this we kind of already know from Danny's POVs later on anyway.
know from Danny's POVs later on anyway. So like doesn't matter. This information
So like doesn't matter. This information doesn't really matter to me. Um we also
doesn't really matter to me. Um we also then see that the group is trying to get
then see that the group is trying to get out of the windblown company.
out of the windblown company. Whatever. I mean it introduces some
Whatever. I mean it introduces some interesting conflicts of having to break
interesting conflicts of having to break oaths and vows which are more sacred um
oaths and vows which are more sacred um especially to higher people in Westeros
especially to higher people in Westeros which is kind of interesting but they
which is kind of interesting but they don't dwell on it very long and also
don't dwell on it very long and also they give them a copout they give our
they give them a copout they give our main like three Dornish a or George
main like three Dornish a or George gives our main three Dornish like a
gives our main three Dornish like a point where they have to make a decision
point where they have to make a decision you know if you go back to book one Aean
you know if you go back to book one Aean with John it comes to every point in
with John it comes to every point in someone's life where they have to make a
someone's life where they have to make a huge decision. Here is that decision you
huge decision. Here is that decision you would think. But then the story gives
would think. But then the story gives them a copout. The story goes, "Oh yeah,
them a copout. The story goes, "Oh yeah, the Tattered Prince goes, yeah, you guys
the Tattered Prince goes, yeah, you guys are going to basically start scouting
are going to basically start scouting and then we want you to basically go
and then we want you to basically go over to either the Second Sons or the
over to either the Second Sons or the Stormcloaks
Stormcloaks and then more or less be an inn with
and then more or less be an inn with Daenerys."
Daenerys." And you're sitting here and you're
And you're sitting here and you're going,
going, "How convenient can we get?" like, oh
"How convenient can we get?" like, oh wow, the main conflict of our characters
wow, the main conflict of our characters story is instantly solved, not because
story is instantly solved, not because of anything they did, but because the
of anything they did, but because the Tattered Prince wants them to do it. And
Tattered Prince wants them to do it. And I can understand the Tattered Prince's
I can understand the Tattered Prince's logic. It's not impossible, right? It's
logic. It's not impossible, right? It's not like not plausible plausible at all.
not like not plausible plausible at all. I understand his rationale,
I understand his rationale, but at the same time, for it to be out
but at the same time, for it to be out of like this group, I think I think it's
of like this group, I think I think it's like a thousand or 2,000 men, Quentyn
like a thousand or 2,000 men, Quentyn and the Dornish as new recruits are sent
and the Dornish as new recruits are sent to do this mission. Qu kind of
to do this mission. Qu kind of questionable. I know it's because they
questionable. I know it's because they speak the common tongue, but like, okay.
speak the common tongue, but like, okay. Um, it just seems too convenient. That's
Um, it just seems too convenient. That's what I've been talking about. There's
what I've been talking about. There's been a couple conveniences here and
been a couple conveniences here and there throughout this first part of the
there throughout this first part of the story, and this is the worst one because
story, and this is the worst one because it makes you kind of stretch what I
it makes you kind of stretch what I would believe the tattered prince would
would believe the tattered prince would do. It makes me question why did we even
do. It makes me question why did we even have this whole chapter setup of, oh,
have this whole chapter setup of, oh, you know, will we break our vows? Is
you know, will we break our vows? Is that dishonorable? When are we going to
that dishonorable? When are we going to break away from this? Could be a huge
break away from this? Could be a huge danger to our lives. And then the
danger to our lives. And then the chapter just resolves the conflict for
chapter just resolves the conflict for them. They didn't do anything to earn
them. They didn't do anything to earn it.
it. And so I don't like this chapter. I
And so I don't like this chapter. I don't like Quentyn as a character. The
don't like Quentyn as a character. The story is very bland for the character.
story is very bland for the character. Um I don't know what else to say. This
Um I don't know what else to say. This just isn't a very good chapter and it's
just isn't a very good chapter and it's down there with Quentyn one. At least
down there with Quentyn one. At least this one has a bit more stakes to it.
this one has a bit more stakes to it. There's more interesting concepts
There's more interesting concepts brought up. It just doesn't go anywhere.
brought up. It just doesn't go anywhere. And so I just did all of that ranting,
And so I just did all of that ranting, right? And what does George come back
right? And what does George come back and give us? He gives us Asha one, a
and give us? He gives us Asha one, a chapter that I have as my number four
chapter that I have as my number four ranked chapter of the first 27 chapters.
ranked chapter of the first 27 chapters. And it's a just a fantastic chapter. We
And it's a just a fantastic chapter. We get brought back into the character of
get brought back into the character of Asha. And it's really awesome because
Asha. And it's really awesome because you you think about Feast for Crows.
you you think about Feast for Crows. Asha kind of just disappears off the
Asha kind of just disappears off the face of the earth. You know, after the
face of the earth. You know, after the King's Mood, we get I think it's one
King's Mood, we get I think it's one more Varion chapter after the King's
more Varion chapter after the King's Mood and that's it, right? we don't get
Mood and that's it, right? we don't get a lot of what happens after and so you
a lot of what happens after and so you almost forget about Asha and what it's
almost forget about Asha and what it's great is because this is what an actual
great is because this is what an actual plotline looks like because where I just
plotline looks like because where I just talked about there was a convenience
talked about there was a convenience with the Quentyn stuff you might be
with the Quentyn stuff you might be thinking oh well it's very convenient
thinking oh well it's very convenient that Asha becomes the new POV for
that Asha becomes the new POV for Stannis but it's not convenient at all
Stannis but it's not convenient at all Asha makes logical sense would go to
Asha makes logical sense would go to Deepwood M she's nowhere that's safe
Deepwood M she's nowhere that's safe that she can stay in the Iron Islands so
that she can stay in the Iron Islands so what does she do? She could go to
what does she do? She could go to Deepwood M. She could maybe flee and go
Deepwood M. She could maybe flee and go into kind of like an exile type
into kind of like an exile type situation, go become a merchant or a
situation, go become a merchant or a pirate, but she goes to Deepwood M. And
pirate, but she goes to Deepwood M. And that makes I think a lot of sense for
that makes I think a lot of sense for her. It's something that she's taken
her. It's something that she's taken over. She can maybe kind of feel some
over. She can maybe kind of feel some sort of safety there for now. That all
sort of safety there for now. That all makes sense. Stannis would take Deepwood
makes sense. Stannis would take Deepwood M because a it's closer to the wall and
M because a it's closer to the wall and two, it gains him leverage to say he's
two, it gains him leverage to say he's the one taking out the Ironborn as well.
the one taking out the Ironborn as well. It's it's close to where he is. So it
It's it's close to where he is. So it all adds up into why this occurs in
all adds up into why this occurs in terms of storytelling. And so let's look
terms of storytelling. And so let's look at the actual chapter,
at the actual chapter, the content that we get here and how
the content that we get here and how good it is as well. So, the only thing I
good it is as well. So, the only thing I will say that kind of brings this PO
will say that kind of brings this PO down for me is that we get a very
down for me is that we get a very extended sex scene with Carl the maid
extended sex scene with Carl the maid and Asha to the point where I'm just
and Asha to the point where I'm just like,
like, I get that that Asha had sex, but do we
I get that that Asha had sex, but do we really need almost like two pages worth
really need almost like two pages worth of this? like it feels like you're
of this? like it feels like you're reading like a I don't know what you
reading like a I don't know what you would call like a sex novel or like I
would call like a sex novel or like I don't know what you would call it, but
don't know what you would call it, but it's basically how it plays out in the
it's basically how it plays out in the the two pages it's on more or less. And
the two pages it's on more or less. And so I understand why it's necessary for
so I understand why it's necessary for George to show that Asha is having sex.
George to show that Asha is having sex. You can just do it in a better way. Just
You can just do it in a better way. Just like be like, "Oh yeah, they started
like be like, "Oh yeah, they started doing it and then that's it. Cut it off
doing it and then that's it. Cut it off right there. We don't need to hear the
right there. We don't need to hear the whole thing."
whole thing." But the point of what George is trying
But the point of what George is trying to do with it is showing that Asha feels
to do with it is showing that Asha feels all the pressures of the world are are
all the pressures of the world are are slowly drag are slowly boxing her in.
slowly drag are slowly boxing her in. She sees her life will be ending soon as
She sees her life will be ending soon as either the Northmen will come for her or
either the Northmen will come for her or if she leaves the Ironborn coming for
if she leaves the Ironborn coming for her and Euron. She sees her life is
her and Euron. She sees her life is coming to a close. And so just for these
coming to a close. And so just for these few, you know, minutes or whatever long
few, you know, minutes or whatever long they're having sex, she's taken out of
they're having sex, she's taken out of that. she's able to, you know, have a
that. she's able to, you know, have a life and enjoy things going on. And so,
life and enjoy things going on. And so, it's a point of that. It's trying to
it's a point of that. It's trying to take away some of that stress on Asha.
take away some of that stress on Asha. Outside of that, this chapter is pretty
Outside of that, this chapter is pretty perfect. We see Asha trying to figure
perfect. We see Asha trying to figure out what to do as she has fled the king
out what to do as she has fled the king the king's move for Deepwood M. Should
the king's move for Deepwood M. Should she flee or fight? And we see Stannis
she flee or fight? And we see Stannis along with the Northmen attack her in
along with the Northmen attack her in the middle of the night as they try to
the middle of the night as they try to sneak into the castle to the open the
sneak into the castle to the open the gates. But Asha has faced with the
gates. But Asha has faced with the decision. She can either flee back to
decision. She can either flee back to her boats or try to fight them at
her boats or try to fight them at Deepwood Mott. And her rationale is
Deepwood Mott. And her rationale is pretty sound. When she tried to take
pretty sound. When she tried to take Deepwood Mott, it the castle didn't help
Deepwood Mott, it the castle didn't help them. It wasn't that defensible. She was
them. It wasn't that defensible. She was able to take it pretty easily. And so
able to take it pretty easily. And so she comes to the same conclusion. She
she comes to the same conclusion. She must flee to her boats. The only issue
must flee to her boats. The only issue is the Northmen know these forests
is the Northmen know these forests better than she does. And in the night
better than she does. And in the night they are caught up once again by Stannis
they are caught up once again by Stannis and the Northmen and Asha fights for a
and the Northmen and Asha fights for a while being able to kill many men along
while being able to kill many men along with some of her companions. But
with some of her companions. But eventually she is caught and she sees as
eventually she is caught and she sees as the as the banner of Stannis comes upon
the as the banner of Stannis comes upon them and leaving Asha to an interesting
them and leaving Asha to an interesting fate. Is Asha going to die or be
fate. Is Asha going to die or be captured? I think for any reader, they
captured? I think for any reader, they know she's going to be captured because
know she's going to be captured because we need a POV for Stannis, but it makes
we need a POV for Stannis, but it makes sense as to why she would just be
sense as to why she would just be captured as Asha is a very valuable
captured as Asha is a very valuable hostage. And that ends Asha one for a
hostage. And that ends Asha one for a Dance with Dragons, the 28th chapter of
Dance with Dragons, the 28th chapter of of Dance with Dragons being Tyrion 7.
of Dance with Dragons being Tyrion 7. And so before we get into this specific
And so before we get into this specific chapter, I want to talk about Tyrion
chapter, I want to talk about Tyrion specifically in terms of the rest of the
specifically in terms of the rest of the book. Tyrion still has a lot of chapters
book. Tyrion still has a lot of chapters left even in this only like 14 15
left even in this only like 14 15 chapter part of the book that we're
chapter part of the book that we're going to be covering which is more the
going to be covering which is more the middle to then a little after the
middle to then a little after the middle. He has three chapters in here
middle. He has three chapters in here and I don't think any of his chapters
and I don't think any of his chapters are particularly good after he leaves
are particularly good after he leaves the young griff section of his story. So
the young griff section of his story. So the first half of his story I thought he
the first half of his story I thought he was enjoyable. Um I think he was really
was enjoyable. Um I think he was really good in some chapters just kind of okay
good in some chapters just kind of okay in others. pretty much every chapter,
in others. pretty much every chapter, the rest of the book for me with Tyrion,
the rest of the book for me with Tyrion, I don't have a lot of positives to say
I don't have a lot of positives to say about the character. I don't enjoy
about the character. I don't enjoy really much of what's going on in his
really much of what's going on in his chapters or even who he's with. And
chapters or even who he's with. And that's I think part of the problem to me
that's I think part of the problem to me is Tyrion's journey is basically now the
is Tyrion's journey is basically now the same as Quentyn's. It's I have to get to
same as Quentyn's. It's I have to get to Daenerys. How do we get to Daenerys and
Daenerys. How do we get to Daenerys and all of that? Now for Tyrion, I will say
all of that? Now for Tyrion, I will say he's a more interesting character than
he's a more interesting character than Quentin. So that helps his case quite a
Quentin. So that helps his case quite a lot because I still have Tyrion's
lot because I still have Tyrion's chapters so far above Quentyn's. But if
chapters so far above Quentyn's. But if you even look at this chapter, so Tyrion
you even look at this chapter, so Tyrion 7 is our first chapter post the young
7 is our first chapter post the young griff storyline and it is not a good
griff storyline and it is not a good one. I think Tyrion 7 is probably one of
one. I think Tyrion 7 is probably one of the worst chapters of this book because
the worst chapters of this book because all that happens is it's Tyrion and
all that happens is it's Tyrion and Jorah and the two are not very
Jorah and the two are not very interesting to read with each other
interesting to read with each other because Jorah does not really talk to
because Jorah does not really talk to Tyrion at all. Just kind of like lugs
Tyrion at all. Just kind of like lugs him around, wants him to shut up a bunch
him around, wants him to shut up a bunch and this isn't the Jorah of the show. I
and this isn't the Jorah of the show. I think that needs to be made very
think that needs to be made very apparent. Ian Glenn, who played the
apparent. Ian Glenn, who played the character of Jorah in the show, was much
character of Jorah in the show, was much more likable. Um, Jorah in the books, in
more likable. Um, Jorah in the books, in my opinion, is not the most likable
my opinion, is not the most likable character given what he does and how
character given what he does and how kind of weird he is towards Daenerys and
kind of weird he is towards Daenerys and kind of the things that he does in that
kind of the things that he does in that does in specifically, I would say, book
does in specifically, I would say, book three. He's not the most likable
three. He's not the most likable character. And so you pair him up with
character. And so you pair him up with Tyrion where Tyrion is kind of on this
Tyrion where Tyrion is kind of on this journey of self-discovery and what comes
journey of self-discovery and what comes after King's Landing and his family and
after King's Landing and his family and being in exile. And you so you pair the
being in exile. And you so you pair the two up together and they're not the most
two up together and they're not the most interesting duo whatsoever because
interesting duo whatsoever because Tyrion has nobody really to play off of,
Tyrion has nobody really to play off of, right? It's him almost talking to a
right? It's him almost talking to a brick wall. So that part of the chapter
brick wall. So that part of the chapter is not very interesting. And so then the
is not very interesting. And so then the other part of the chapter is it's trying
other part of the chapter is it's trying to figure out how do we get some sort of
to figure out how do we get some sort of passage for Tyrion to get to Daenerys.
passage for Tyrion to get to Daenerys. It's the same idea as of Quentyn, right?
It's the same idea as of Quentyn, right? It's basically just taking what that
It's basically just taking what that chapter was and just recycling it here
chapter was and just recycling it here with Tyrion. And so Tyrion and Jorah end
with Tyrion. And so Tyrion and Jorah end up going to see the widow of the
up going to see the widow of the waterfront after they spend the night in
waterfront after they spend the night in an inn. And basically at first it's like
an inn. And basically at first it's like she doesn't seem like she's going to
she doesn't seem like she's going to give them passage and she's questioning
give them passage and she's questioning Jorah's motives to go to see Daenerys
Jorah's motives to go to see Daenerys and all this stuff. and she kind of
and all this stuff. and she kind of basically turns them down until Penny
basically turns them down until Penny attacks Tyrion and then she's like,
attacks Tyrion and then she's like, "Okay, well, you guys can, you know, go
"Okay, well, you guys can, you know, go there." As the boat is suspected not to
there." As the boat is suspected not to reach its destination. It's just a
reach its destination. It's just a really weird awkward way of them getting
really weird awkward way of them getting transportation. The Penny attack, I
transportation. The Penny attack, I guess, is the most interesting part of
guess, is the most interesting part of this chapter because it is adding
this chapter because it is adding another level to the purple wedding,
another level to the purple wedding, being that Penny was one of the people
being that Penny was one of the people in the actual joust that that started
in the actual joust that that started almost the whole conflict that
almost the whole conflict that Littlefinger bought so that it would
Littlefinger bought so that it would pretty much put Tyrion and Joffrey at
pretty much put Tyrion and Joffrey at odds during the wedding to frame him.
odds during the wedding to frame him. It's interesting that that layer comes
It's interesting that that layer comes about in this book, but I don't, you
about in this book, but I don't, you know, this and this is specifically
know, this and this is specifically going to look at the next couple
going to look at the next couple chapters. I don't particularly enjoy the
chapters. I don't particularly enjoy the characters of Penny and Tyrion together.
characters of Penny and Tyrion together. Again, it's putting Tyrion with a bunch
Again, it's putting Tyrion with a bunch of people that are not really that
of people that are not really that witty. They're not really playing off of
witty. They're not really playing off of Tyrion's best parts, and that's, you
Tyrion's best parts, and that's, you know, his political mind and things like
know, his political mind and things like that. It's putting him in this other
that. It's putting him in this other element that I just don't really find
element that I just don't really find that enjoyable. And so, the chapter kind
that enjoyable. And so, the chapter kind of ends with them getting passage. But,
of ends with them getting passage. But, as of right now, I have this as a bottom
as of right now, I have this as a bottom three chapter of the book. So far, even
three chapter of the book. So far, even with the chatters we're going to do in
with the chatters we're going to do in today's video, and even as I'm a little
today's video, and even as I'm a little bit further in my retrospective in terms
bit further in my retrospective in terms of actually reading chapters, I just
of actually reading chapters, I just didn't want to make it as long in this
didn't want to make it as long in this video. But even going further, this is
video. But even going further, this is still in my opinion the worst chap the
still in my opinion the worst chap the worst chapter outside of Quentyn
worst chapter outside of Quentyn chapters. So yeah, I'm not a big fan of
chapters. So yeah, I'm not a big fan of Tyrion 7. So let's kind of move on to
Tyrion 7. So let's kind of move on to maybe some better chapters. Now getting
maybe some better chapters. Now getting into chapter 29, we have John 6. Now,
into chapter 29, we have John 6. Now, unfortunately, once again, I don't
unfortunately, once again, I don't really think this is the strongest
really think this is the strongest chapter for John. I just think it's a,
chapter for John. I just think it's a, you know, fine middle of the book kind
you know, fine middle of the book kind of chapter. It's not anything crazy. You
of chapter. It's not anything crazy. You know, we're still post Stannis being at
know, we're still post Stannis being at the wall. So, a lot of the, I would say,
the wall. So, a lot of the, I would say, more interesting parts of the wall,
more interesting parts of the wall, which Jon has been a very consistent and
which Jon has been a very consistent and good POV so far of this book and will
good POV so far of this book and will continue to be one. This is definitely
continue to be one. This is definitely just another building block chapter. It
just another building block chapter. It doesn't really have like any real
doesn't really have like any real massive reveals. It doesn't really
massive reveals. It doesn't really forward the plot a ton. It's just kind
forward the plot a ton. It's just kind of one of those middle chapters. So,
of one of those middle chapters. So, this chapter with Jon and John 6 is
this chapter with Jon and John 6 is focused on about two or three things
focused on about two or three things really. So, the first thing that you
really. So, the first thing that you have happening in the chapter is Jon is
have happening in the chapter is Jon is sending out three rangings. One with
sending out three rangings. One with Alister Thorne included in it. And this
Alister Thorne included in it. And this could be seen as a very good play by
could be seen as a very good play by Jon, even though this is isn't what it
Jon, even though this is isn't what it is meant to do, is that you're ridding
is meant to do, is that you're ridding yourself of a big threat to your power.
yourself of a big threat to your power. Alistister Thorne being basically Jon's
Alistister Thorne being basically Jon's biggest rival outside of maybe Janos
biggest rival outside of maybe Janos Slint who is already dead in this book.
Slint who is already dead in this book. And so you can see it from that point of
And so you can see it from that point of view. It's actually a good political
view. It's actually a good political move to do so because it's kind of a
move to do so because it's kind of a win-win situation. On one hand, if he
win-win situation. On one hand, if he does die, well, oh well. You know, he's
does die, well, oh well. You know, he's somebody that was not very he was
somebody that was not very he was somebody that was not a big fan of you
somebody that was not a big fan of you and would have been probably plotting
and would have been probably plotting your demise. But if he does come back,
your demise. But if he does come back, well, all the all the better, right? He
well, all the all the better, right? He comes back with successful ranging
comes back with successful ranging finding out whatever information and
finding out whatever information and Alistister Thorne is a good warrior. And
Alistister Thorne is a good warrior. And in that sense, it makes a lot of sense
in that sense, it makes a lot of sense for Jon to send Alistister Thorne. But
for Jon to send Alistister Thorne. But that's that's not really what Jon was
that's that's not really what Jon was intending. But Thorne has to go
intending. But Thorne has to go regardless. He realizes, you know, he
regardless. He realizes, you know, he can't deny this order. If he denies an
can't deny this order. If he denies an order, he's going to end up like Slint.
order, he's going to end up like Slint. The next part of this chapter kind of
The next part of this chapter kind of follows Jon doing some training as he
follows Jon doing some training as he first starts with sparring with three
first starts with sparring with three new recruits. It's him just beating up
new recruits. It's him just beating up on them. uh kind of reminds me of Jon's
on them. uh kind of reminds me of Jon's first chapter at the wall in a game of
first chapter at the wall in a game of thrones where he's just vastly better
thrones where he's just vastly better than everybody, you know, here in these
than everybody, you know, here in these recruits specifically and kind of plays
recruits specifically and kind of plays out the same except Jon is doing a
out the same except Jon is doing a threeon-one and basically takes him out
threeon-one and basically takes him out pretty easily. But then you have
pretty easily. But then you have Rattleshirt, who we know is Mance, but
Rattleshirt, who we know is Mance, but is pretending to be Rattleshirt. He has
is pretending to be Rattleshirt. He has not been revealed yet, but he will very
not been revealed yet, but he will very soon. Rattleshirt or Mance actually
soon. Rattleshirt or Mance actually challenges Jon to a fight. Now, the
challenges Jon to a fight. Now, the fight is interesting because Jon doesn't
fight is interesting because Jon doesn't actually fight with Longclaw here. So,
actually fight with Longclaw here. So, it's quite a different fight if these
it's quite a different fight if these two would be fighting to the death if
two would be fighting to the death if they'd actually met in the field because
they'd actually met in the field because Jon would have Longclaw. And I do think
Jon would have Longclaw. And I do think that makes the difference because Mance
that makes the difference because Mance does end up getting the better of Jon.
does end up getting the better of Jon. And the fight itself is kind of
And the fight itself is kind of interesting because some people kind of
interesting because some people kind of speculate that this is Arthur Dayne. I
speculate that this is Arthur Dayne. I don't think so, but I think it is
don't think so, but I think it is interesting. I think that's what really
interesting. I think that's what really sparks this debate is kind of this fight
sparks this debate is kind of this fight and then also some of the songs that
and then also some of the songs that Mance seems to sing, but yeah, I mean
Mance seems to sing, but yeah, I mean it's it's a fight. It doesn't really
it's it's a fight. It doesn't really have much consequence to it. It's not
have much consequence to it. It's not really that important in my opinion, but
really that important in my opinion, but it is some action and passes the time in
it is some action and passes the time in this chapter a little bit. Um, after
this chapter a little bit. Um, after this point, Jon gets a letter saying
this point, Jon gets a letter saying Arya will marry Ramsay and he thinks on
Arya will marry Ramsay and he thinks on kind of their time together when they
kind of their time together when they were, you know, young in book one and
were, you know, young in book one and that leads him to taking a walk. He see
that leads him to taking a walk. He see he's, you know, he's dealing with a lot
he's, you know, he's dealing with a lot of issues right now. He's dealing with
of issues right now. He's dealing with what does he do about Arya, somebody
what does he do about Arya, somebody that he deeply cares about, marrying
that he deeply cares about, marrying this Ramsay person that doesn't have a
this Ramsay person that doesn't have a good reputation. Then you also have
good reputation. Then you also have issues with the Wildlings and the Nights
issues with the Wildlings and the Nights Watch and other issues going on. And he
Watch and other issues going on. And he just seems overwhelmed. And it even
just seems overwhelmed. And it even seems to get to him because he seems
seems to get to him because he seems like he spots Egret. He almost he sees
like he spots Egret. He almost he sees this woman in front of him and it looks
this woman in front of him and it looks like Egret, but it's actually Mel. And
like Egret, but it's actually Mel. And it's Mel kind of I would assume doing
it's Mel kind of I would assume doing tricks on Jon's mind to basically show
tricks on Jon's mind to basically show that she has power, right?
that she has power, right? Mel is very clearly trying to get on
Mel is very clearly trying to get on Jon's good side, but she tells him a
Jon's good side, but she tells him a couple things. The first thing she tells
couple things. The first thing she tells him is that she has seen three of the
him is that she has seen three of the men coming back is as well as Arya on a
men coming back is as well as Arya on a dying horse fleeing her marriage. Now,
dying horse fleeing her marriage. Now, not much truly happens here because it's
not much truly happens here because it's really just George setting the table for
really just George setting the table for things to come later, right? So, for
things to come later, right? So, for instance, in the Mel chapter we're going
instance, in the Mel chapter we're going to get, those things are going to be
to get, those things are going to be important to understanding Jon's
important to understanding Jon's plotline and going forward because it
plotline and going forward because it has to be established. Jon is not going
has to be established. Jon is not going to automatically just trust Melisandre
to automatically just trust Melisandre because she spouts some visions. He's
because she spouts some visions. He's going to need proof that her magic
going to need proof that her magic actually works and and her visions. Kind
actually works and and her visions. Kind of the same idea with like Stannis. And
of the same idea with like Stannis. And so, those things will happen a little
so, those things will happen a little bit later. It's really, this chapter
bit later. It's really, this chapter really is just setting up Jon and Mel's
really is just setting up Jon and Mel's relationship going forward and what
relationship going forward and what they're going to be kind of doing and
they're going to be kind of doing and how, you know, Mel will use Mance and
how, you know, Mel will use Mance and all that stuff. It's very much a setup
all that stuff. It's very much a setup chapter. Um, doesn't have a terrible
chapter. Um, doesn't have a terrible amount of substance to it to be honest.
amount of substance to it to be honest. It's just kind of a mid chapter for Jon.
It's just kind of a mid chapter for Jon. But saying that, right, it's not a bad
But saying that, right, it's not a bad chapter of this book, right? I like this
chapter of this book, right? I like this chapter significantly more than say like
chapter significantly more than say like Tyrion or Quentyn chapters. just for the
Tyrion or Quentyn chapters. just for the Jon story line. It's probably one of the
Jon story line. It's probably one of the weaker ones of the first kind of six for
weaker ones of the first kind of six for him. You might be thinking and we're
him. You might be thinking and we're starting this video, we've had two
starting this video, we've had two chapters that I'm not too thrilled with.
chapters that I'm not too thrilled with. Um especially the first one. The second
Um especially the first one. The second one's fine, but you know, not any
one's fine, but you know, not any bangers, but then George comes back
bangers, but then George comes back swinging. And I've always said this
swinging. And I've always said this throughout my Beast for Crows
throughout my Beast for Crows retrospective and this retrospective.
retrospective and this retrospective. George has to know what what his weakest
George has to know what what his weakest chapters are going to be or at least
chapters are going to be or at least perceives which ones are not going to be
perceives which ones are not going to be received as well. Because think about
received as well. Because think about those two chapters, right? One of the
those two chapters, right? One of the worst chapters in the story and it comes
worst chapters in the story and it comes between an Asha chapter which I think is
between an Asha chapter which I think is one of the best of the early section of
one of the best of the early section of the story and then it comes between the
the story and then it comes between the best chapter in my opinion of the book.
best chapter in my opinion of the book. Now there is also a John chapter in
Now there is also a John chapter in there but I think these two chapters
there but I think these two chapters going to hide those because we get at
going to hide those because we get at number 30 Davos 4. And I've talked about
number 30 Davos 4. And I've talked about this. I even just made a video talking
this. I even just made a video talking about this chapter a little bit because
about this chapter a little bit because for me at least early on in this
for me at least early on in this retrospective, you know, we're going to
retrospective, you know, we're going to be by the end of this video about 40 41
be by the end of this video about 40 41 chapters into the book of the possible
chapters into the book of the possible 73. And this is my favorite chapter of
73. And this is my favorite chapter of the book, I'm pretty sure. But we'll see
the book, I'm pretty sure. But we'll see if that changes by the time I get done
if that changes by the time I get done with this series. But Davos 4 is the
with this series. But Davos 4 is the North remembers chapter. And I love this
North remembers chapter. And I love this chapter so much because it parallels
chapter so much because it parallels actually Ned's last chapter in a Game of
actually Ned's last chapter in a Game of Thrones. If you guys remember with Ned's
Thrones. If you guys remember with Ned's last chapter in Game of Thrones, it's
last chapter in Game of Thrones, it's kind of all about, you know, him
kind of all about, you know, him thinking about his life and the choices
thinking about his life and the choices that he's made to, you know, getting
that he's made to, you know, getting here and the possibility of him dying
here and the possibility of him dying soon or whatever, right? Now, it's a
soon or whatever, right? Now, it's a little different in terms of the ending,
little different in terms of the ending, right? Because Ned, his whole plotline
right? Because Ned, his whole plotline is about will he give up his honor and
is about will he give up his honor and all these things to protect his family.
all these things to protect his family. Davos's isn't like that because Davos is
Davos's isn't like that because Davos is in a better situation than Ned is, but
in a better situation than Ned is, but you still see those same things kind of
you still see those same things kind of playing out with Davos's chapter, right?
playing out with Davos's chapter, right? The beginning of this chapter opens with
The beginning of this chapter opens with kind of his situation, right? His
kind of his situation, right? His connection with the guards and learning
connection with the guards and learning the history of of the Manderlys and also
the history of of the Manderlys and also this jail cell that he is in the wolf's
this jail cell that he is in the wolf's den which has a very lengthy history and
den which has a very lengthy history and is insanely awesome to like learn about
is insanely awesome to like learn about in this chapter. And we even get a
in this chapter. And we even get a little bit more about how Davos seems to
little bit more about how Davos seems to be treating being treated well. Right?
be treating being treated well. Right? If you think about Davos 3, why Manderly
If you think about Davos 3, why Manderly publicly wanted Davos's head, right? So
publicly wanted Davos's head, right? So why is Davos being able to have simple
why is Davos being able to have simple requests being filled out? You know,
requests being filled out? You know, things for parchment to be able to
things for parchment to be able to write, to be able to read. Um he's
write, to be able to read. Um he's getting a lot of luxuries that he wasn't
getting a lot of luxuries that he wasn't even getting when he say he was a
even getting when he say he was a prisoner of stannises in a storm of
prisoner of stannises in a storm of swords. Davos is treated quite well. And
swords. Davos is treated quite well. And so there's a little bit of this unease
so there's a little bit of this unease building in you, the reader and Davos.
building in you, the reader and Davos. Why has he lived this long? Why is he
Why has he lived this long? Why is he being treated kind of okay? It's a
being treated kind of okay? It's a little weird until all of a sudden
little weird until all of a sudden during the night, Robbit Glover comes to
during the night, Robbit Glover comes to Davos in the middle of the night asking
Davos in the middle of the night asking for him to follow him. And obviously
for him to follow him. And obviously Davos is going to be very wary of this,
Davos is going to be very wary of this, right? Is this the time when Davos dies?
right? Is this the time when Davos dies? What is truly happening here? And as the
What is truly happening here? And as the tension kind of builds,
tension kind of builds, Davos is introduced once again to Wyman
Davos is introduced once again to Wyman Manderly. And you have this whole huge
Manderly. And you have this whole huge reveal that ends up actually changing
reveal that ends up actually changing the northern politics completely because
the northern politics completely because we learn here that Manderly is playing
we learn here that Manderly is playing the phrase for fools, right? He's act
the phrase for fools, right? He's act he's trying to act but he can't because
he's trying to act but he can't because his son is being held captive.
his son is being held captive. And so Wyan Manderly is playing almost
And so Wyan Manderly is playing almost 3D chess, right? He's trying to make
3D chess, right? He's trying to make some moves to get the phrase out of
some moves to get the phrase out of power and the Bolton's out of power, but
power and the Bolton's out of power, but he needs some certain things from Davos.
he needs some certain things from Davos. And we learn about Wex, a character that
And we learn about Wex, a character that mysteriously kind of disappears in a
mysteriously kind of disappears in a Clash of Kings with Theon, but we never
Clash of Kings with Theon, but we never see him again, right? Theon doesn't
see him again, right? Theon doesn't really think of Wex, none of those
really think of Wex, none of those things. But Wex pops out here as Wyan
things. But Wex pops out here as Wyan Manderly and Robert Glover have found
Manderly and Robert Glover have found him. And they reveal that Bran and
him. And they reveal that Bran and Rickon seem to be alive. And
Rickon seem to be alive. And specifically, they know where Rickon is.
specifically, they know where Rickon is. He's in Skagos. And that leads Davos to
He's in Skagos. And that leads Davos to then go to Skagos.
then go to Skagos. It's so great because this chapter is so
It's so great because this chapter is so perfect for the reader because not only
perfect for the reader because not only is it a huge reveal to Davos, but it's
is it a huge reveal to Davos, but it's we're kind of in this dark period where
we're kind of in this dark period where the Starks have been scattered, right?
the Starks have been scattered, right? And none of them are really trying to
And none of them are really trying to get power, right? If you think about
get power, right? If you think about Arya, she's learning. Sans is in a
Arya, she's learning. Sans is in a learning position. All of our Stark
learning position. All of our Stark characters are kind of growing at this
characters are kind of growing at this point. None of them are looking to
point. None of them are looking to reclaim the north. It's only Stannis.
reclaim the north. It's only Stannis. And so when you have the Manorly have
And so when you have the Manorly have this idea that yeah, we'll back this
this idea that yeah, we'll back this we'll back Stannis if you get you know
we'll back Stannis if you get you know Rick on it introduces another element
Rick on it introduces another element into this chapter that's interesting.
into this chapter that's interesting. And the one thing I also find that's
And the one thing I also find that's interesting about the set of chapters
interesting about the set of chapters we're doing in this you know set in this
we're doing in this you know set in this retrospective and this part of the
retrospective and this part of the video. There's a lot of different plot
video. There's a lot of different plot lines that just end. Right? That's one
lines that just end. Right? That's one thing I find very weird about Dance
thing I find very weird about Dance Dragons is there's a lot of plot lines
Dragons is there's a lot of plot lines that even like halfway into the book,
that even like halfway into the book, they just end. Like for instance, this
they just end. Like for instance, this is our last Davos chapter until Winds of
is our last Davos chapter until Winds of Winter. Whenever we get Winds of Winter,
Winter. Whenever we get Winds of Winter, it will pick up after this chapter.
it will pick up after this chapter. There is no chapter in this book after
There is no chapter in this book after this. And you know, others that I'm
this. And you know, others that I'm going to talk about in this video, you
going to talk about in this video, you know, for instance, Mel only has one
know, for instance, Mel only has one chapter. She does not appear until
chapter. She does not appear until probably winds of winter. If you think
probably winds of winter. If you think about Arya Hoda, he has a chapter in
about Arya Hoda, he has a chapter in this book and we won't see him again
this book and we won't see him again until Winds of Winter. Bran, he only has
until Winds of Winter. Bran, he only has three chapters in this book, but this
three chapters in this book, but this will be the last chapter that he has
will be the last chapter that he has until Winds of Winters. You see a lot of
until Winds of Winters. You see a lot of the plots kind of ending quite early on
the plots kind of ending quite early on in this on in this book, which I find
in this on in this book, which I find really fascinating and I wonder why
really fascinating and I wonder why George did it that way. Now, part of it
George did it that way. Now, part of it is the timing of events. Maybe you want
is the timing of events. Maybe you want a passage of time to occur before we go
a passage of time to occur before we go back to Davos, right, of him sailing to
back to Davos, right, of him sailing to Skagos and then maybe in the next book
Skagos and then maybe in the next book we pick up on him actually being in
we pick up on him actually being in Skagos. Who knows? Number 31, we have
Skagos. Who knows? Number 31, we have Danny 5. So again, what I've talked
Danny 5. So again, what I've talked about with Daenerys pretty much
about with Daenerys pretty much throughout the early portion of this
throughout the early portion of this book is she's just a POV that's pretty
book is she's just a POV that's pretty okay, right? She's not good, but she's
okay, right? She's not good, but she's she's not terribly bad, but she's not
she's not terribly bad, but she's not really good either. She's kind of stuck
really good either. She's kind of stuck somewhere in the middle where none of
somewhere in the middle where none of her chapters really feel bad, but none
her chapters really feel bad, but none of them are like the best chapters of
of them are like the best chapters of the book, right? So like even if you
the book, right? So like even if you look at my ratings, which I'll talk
look at my ratings, which I'll talk about by the end of this book, a lot of
about by the end of this book, a lot of Daenerys's chapters are just in the
Daenerys's chapters are just in the middle. So that's kind of how I feel
middle. So that's kind of how I feel about this chapter as well because Danny
about this chapter as well because Danny in Danny 5 really feels the trap is
in Danny 5 really feels the trap is tightening on Meereen. They are being
tightening on Meereen. They are being blockaded but have no navy to combat it.
blockaded but have no navy to combat it. And Daenerys refuses to use her dragons.
And Daenerys refuses to use her dragons. She's completely lost control of
She's completely lost control of dragons. Brown Ben Plum is someone that
dragons. Brown Ben Plum is someone that keeps pushing for that. When Daenerys
keeps pushing for that. When Daenerys doesn't listen to him, those have
doesn't listen to him, those have repercussions that we'll see the
repercussions that we'll see the repercussions in the following chapters
repercussions in the following chapters because Daenerys is not using her true
because Daenerys is not using her true power, the dragons. When she gets her
power, the dragons. When she gets her army and she starts, you know, becoming
army and she starts, you know, becoming a conqueror, it's because of her
a conqueror, it's because of her dragons, right? Her dragons allow her to
dragons, right? Her dragons allow her to get the unsto, but now she has no
get the unsto, but now she has no control of them and that is really
control of them and that is really screwing her up because that's her
screwing her up because that's her advantage.
advantage. But outside of that going on, we also
But outside of that going on, we also see a lot of suspicious activity going
see a lot of suspicious activity going on. Dany has had his follow just to see
on. Dany has had his follow just to see what he's up to. And we know from the
what he's up to. And we know from the reports that he has visited all the the
reports that he has visited all the the families at the pyramids and the
families at the pyramids and the killings have stopped. So, how is it
killings have stopped. So, how is it that Hisdar is able to basically quench
that Hisdar is able to basically quench any of these killings going on where
any of these killings going on where Daenerys can't? Because it makes it feel
Daenerys can't? Because it makes it feel like Hizdar has to have some connection
like Hizdar has to have some connection to the sons of the harpy or at least
to the sons of the harpy or at least know of the people that are in charge of
know of the people that are in charge of them. And so if that is the case, Hisdar
them. And so if that is the case, Hisdar comes off as very suspicious. Is Hizdar
comes off as very suspicious. Is Hizdar part of the Sons of the Harpy like many
part of the Sons of the Harpy like many of the characters in Daenerys's council
of the characters in Daenerys's council believes, or is he actually just a
believes, or is he actually just a puppet figure for the Sons of the Harpy?
puppet figure for the Sons of the Harpy? Like they're using him to get what they
Like they're using him to get what they want. So, for instance, if you are
want. So, for instance, if you are somebody that is in the Sons of the
somebody that is in the Sons of the Harpy, if you're the Green Grace, let's
Harpy, if you're the Green Grace, let's say she's the head of the Sons of the
say she's the head of the Sons of the Harpy, which is what I believe,
Harpy, which is what I believe, you're going to want his daughter to
you're going to want his daughter to become king because you want some sort
become king because you want some sort of representation of the customs and the
of representation of the customs and the things that the Marines people, you
things that the Marines people, you know, want, right? Dany is very
know, want, right? Dany is very progressive. She doesn't listen to the
progressive. She doesn't listen to the cultures a lot a lot of the times of
cultures a lot a lot of the times of Marine. And so, you're putting Hizdar on
Marine. And so, you're putting Hizdar on the throne. And so, the only way to do
the throne. And so, the only way to do that is to stop the killings, right? So
that is to stop the killings, right? So once those killings start, you can now
once those killings start, you can now have that influence throughout through
have that influence throughout through Hizdar. And then after that point, if
Hizdar. And then after that point, if Daenerys was to say die, well, Hisdar
Daenerys was to say die, well, Hisdar has already been declared as the king.
has already been declared as the king. And so you can rule through him. And so
And so you can rule through him. And so that that even comes down to later later
that that even comes down to later later on when we see the poison, you know,
on when we see the poison, you know, Locust, those probably were meant to
Locust, those probably were meant to kill Daenerys. And if that was the case,
kill Daenerys. And if that was the case, his Dar would have become the king.
his Dar would have become the king. There's a lot of that going on right
There's a lot of that going on right now. There's a lot of like suspicious
now. There's a lot of like suspicious politics going on building up for the
politics going on building up for the kind of the last stretch of the book.
kind of the last stretch of the book. But we also find out about what is going
But we also find out about what is going on at Astapore, right? And we saw with
on at Astapore, right? And we saw with the last chapter of Quentyn what was
the last chapter of Quentyn what was going on there. But one of the reasons I
going on there. But one of the reasons I don't think that chapter is even
don't think that chapter is even necessary is because Daenerys hears all
necessary is because Daenerys hears all of it in the next coming chapters. And
of it in the next coming chapters. And so it feels like that was kind of a
so it feels like that was kind of a waste of time. It didn't really
waste of time. It didn't really establish anything. And even when you
establish anything. And even when you think about that Quentyn is given to get
think about that Quentyn is given to get to Daenerys, that's also kind of
to Daenerys, that's also kind of basically described to Daenerys by
basically described to Daenerys by Daario. It's just not very needed. But
Daario. It's just not very needed. But here she finds out what is going on. on
here she finds out what is going on. on how there's a bunch of refugees coming
how there's a bunch of refugees coming to Marine that Astapore was basically
to Marine that Astapore was basically sacked and many people died and were
sacked and many people died and were killed and just the horrors of of the
killed and just the horrors of of the Astapori of the sack of Astapore. These
Astapori of the sack of Astapore. These refugees who Daenerys feels very bad for
refugees who Daenerys feels very bad for of course these are her people
of course these are her people they are carrying a disease and that is
they are carrying a disease and that is the first issue that Dany has to deal
the first issue that Dany has to deal with. It'll become more apparent in the
with. It'll become more apparent in the next chapter but what is Daenerys
next chapter but what is Daenerys supposed to do? She's helpless. She
supposed to do? She's helpless. She can't face the Yung Kai in open battle
can't face the Yung Kai in open battle because if she does so, she has to rely
because if she does so, she has to rely on the brazen beasts to keep the city.
on the brazen beasts to keep the city. And who's to say they don't just close
And who's to say they don't just close the gates and start ruling over Marine?
the gates and start ruling over Marine? She can't trust them. And so, it's
She can't trust them. And so, it's Daenerys being backed into a corner. She
Daenerys being backed into a corner. She can't break the blockade without her
can't break the blockade without her dragons. She can't meet the Yai who are
dragons. She can't meet the Yai who are coming to Meereen
coming to Meereen in open battle. And she also can't even
in open battle. And she also can't even help these refugees at all. She doesn't
help these refugees at all. She doesn't have enough food to even support
have enough food to even support Meereen. If you open your gates to these
Meereen. If you open your gates to these refugees, that's that whole disease is
refugees, that's that whole disease is just going to carry throughout the city
just going to carry throughout the city and then bam, you're going to be not
and then bam, you're going to be not only are you going to be starving
only are you going to be starving because you don't have enough food, but
because you don't have enough food, but you're also going to have people that
you're also going to have people that are going to be sick and ill. And that's
are going to be sick and ill. And that's when the people turn against you. And so
when the people turn against you. And so Daenerys is kind of forced into an
Daenerys is kind of forced into an action. She doesn't want to marry
action. She doesn't want to marry Hisdar, but it seems like the only
Hisdar, but it seems like the only action she can do. She sets aside her
action she can do. She sets aside her own personal wants and does what she
own personal wants and does what she thinks is best for the city. because if
thinks is best for the city. because if Hizdnar is able to bring is able to give
Hizdnar is able to bring is able to give her peace, then that's something that
her peace, then that's something that she has to do to try and save her
she has to do to try and save her people. So, I really like this chapter
people. So, I really like this chapter from Daenerys, even though I don't think
from Daenerys, even though I don't think it's like anything crazy, I think it
it's like anything crazy, I think it really puts to the test how Daenerys is
really puts to the test how Daenerys is failing in her rulership and how she is
failing in her rulership and how she is as a person. She wants to help people,
as a person. She wants to help people, but she doesn't really know how to do
but she doesn't really know how to do that. She doesn't know how to rule. And
that. She doesn't know how to rule. And so, she see thinks that the way that she
so, she see thinks that the way that she can rule will be with getting Hizdar,
can rule will be with getting Hizdar, right? Appeasing people to then bring
right? Appeasing people to then bring everyone together. And that gets us to
everyone together. And that gets us to number 32, Mel. So, this chapter to me
number 32, Mel. So, this chapter to me is probably the biggest shock to me. I
is probably the biggest shock to me. I remember reading A Dance Dragons for the
remember reading A Dance Dragons for the first time and seeing this chapter. And
first time and seeing this chapter. And this chapter really is weird to me
this chapter really is weird to me because you never would have thought
because you never would have thought George would have given Mill a chapter
George would have given Mill a chapter because she's kind of like a mysterious
because she's kind of like a mysterious type of character who has a lot of
type of character who has a lot of information that we the audience don't
information that we the audience don't know. So, like for instance, it would be
know. So, like for instance, it would be weird if we ever got like a Varys or
weird if we ever got like a Varys or Littlefinger chapter because you would
Littlefinger chapter because you would have basically all their plans in their
have basically all their plans in their head. And so how would you even do that?
head. And so how would you even do that? And so George kind of navigates that
And so George kind of navigates that with Mel and some a chapter that I could
with Mel and some a chapter that I could have seen going very wrong for him
have seen going very wrong for him actually goes quite right. I I think
actually goes quite right. I I think this is a chapter that has a lot of
this is a chapter that has a lot of different functions for George. One
different functions for George. One George I think wanted to explore the
George I think wanted to explore the magic of Ror and the red god more. But
magic of Ror and the red god more. But how is he going to do that? There's not
how is he going to do that? There's not a lot of characters that are able to get
a lot of characters that are able to get kind of close to that and un and finding
kind of close to that and un and finding more out about the red god. And we see a
more out about the red god. And we see a little bit of it happen in two different
little bit of it happen in two different storylines in this book. One with kind
storylines in this book. One with kind of Tyrion and Victarion with Mquaro and
of Tyrion and Victarion with Mquaro and then also here with Mel. And this
then also here with Mel. And this chapter also serves another function
chapter also serves another function because if you think about it right, the
because if you think about it right, the wall right now has two POVs, right? It
wall right now has two POVs, right? It has Jon and Mel. But the thing is by the
has Jon and Mel. But the thing is by the end of this book, Jon is going to die.
end of this book, Jon is going to die. And so if you're George and you are
And so if you're George and you are going to have Jon come back, and even if
going to have Jon come back, and even if you aren't, you have to have some other
you aren't, you have to have some other POV take over the wall, right? as their
POV take over the wall, right? as their as our eyes into what's occurring there.
as our eyes into what's occurring there. And so it actually makes a lot of sense
And so it actually makes a lot of sense that he makes Mel a POV here because
that he makes Mel a POV here because he's going to need her to basically
he's going to need her to basically carry the wall plot until Jon gets back.
carry the wall plot until Jon gets back. But again, I really do like this
But again, I really do like this chapter. It shows us how difficult Mel's
chapter. It shows us how difficult Mel's magic is to her and how it's giving her
magic is to her and how it's giving her pain and being harmful to do sometimes,
pain and being harmful to do sometimes, but she makes it look easy. Something
but she makes it look easy. Something that we've thought about the entire
that we've thought about the entire series, like how does Mel's magic work?
series, like how does Mel's magic work? It seems very, you know, easy for her to
It seems very, you know, easy for her to do, but it's not. And a lot of her stuff
do, but it's not. And a lot of her stuff is sometimes it's interpretation with
is sometimes it's interpretation with her visions and other stuff it's just
her visions and other stuff it's just tricks. So we see kind of what Mel is
tricks. So we see kind of what Mel is doing and how she's able to play this
doing and how she's able to play this role of this powerful but yet scary
role of this powerful but yet scary sorcerer or priestess that Mel is. We
sorcerer or priestess that Mel is. We see her looking for visions as she seems
see her looking for visions as she seems to see hard maybe dragons and I the eye
to see hard maybe dragons and I the eye is rangers again Alice Karstark who she
is rangers again Alice Karstark who she believes is Arya and she sees Jon's
believes is Arya and she sees Jon's danger. And that's the biggest thing
danger. And that's the biggest thing here, right? Is that Jon is basically
here, right? Is that Jon is basically being surrounded by death. It seems to
being surrounded by death. It seems to be coming for him, but Jon won't listen
be coming for him, but Jon won't listen to Mel. And that is supposed to be our
to Mel. And that is supposed to be our warning to his death. Kind of like all
warning to his death. Kind of like all the the subtle ways George say
the the subtle ways George say foreshadowed the Red Wedding. We see her
foreshadowed the Red Wedding. We see her even doing a kindness for Davos, keeping
even doing a kindness for Davos, keeping his son actually close to her so that he
his son actually close to her so that he wouldn't have to go off to march in war
wouldn't have to go off to march in war and this horrible thing that Stannis is
and this horrible thing that Stannis is dealing with right now that we'll see in
dealing with right now that we'll see in the next Asha chapter, probably in the
the next Asha chapter, probably in the next part of the series. Uh, with, you
next part of the series. Uh, with, you know, them and this blizzard and this
know, them and this blizzard and this storm and people dying because of the
storm and people dying because of the cold or from starvation, all these
cold or from starvation, all these different things. She has saved him from
different things. She has saved him from that even though Davos's son probably
that even though Davos's son probably won't thank her for it. But it's also
won't thank her for it. But it's also going to be a big reveal is that
going to be a big reveal is that Rattleshirt is not actually Rattleshirt.
Rattleshirt is not actually Rattleshirt. He's actually Mans Raider. Now, we don't
He's actually Mans Raider. Now, we don't get that till the very end of the
get that till the very end of the chapter. But it's important because she
chapter. But it's important because she basically calls for Rattleshirt to
basically calls for Rattleshirt to basically discuss some things about Arya
basically discuss some things about Arya and she hears the horn and it's once
and she hears the horn and it's once again like she sees in the visions and
again like she sees in the visions and like what she saw and like what she told
like what she saw and like what she told Jon that these three eyeless you know
Jon that these three eyeless you know rangers come back to them right on and
rangers come back to them right on and their heads basically on spikes. And so
their heads basically on spikes. And so it's Mel now having an inn with Jon
it's Mel now having an inn with Jon because her visions now are true. You
because her visions now are true. You have if you're Jon you can't question
have if you're Jon you can't question it, right? She's predicted something
it, right? She's predicted something that is pretty unpredictable. And so Jon
that is pretty unpredictable. And so Jon is now forced to listen to Mel. And the
is now forced to listen to Mel. And the two go to talk in her corners when it's
two go to talk in her corners when it's revealed. Mel basically again trying to
revealed. Mel basically again trying to gain Jon's trust because she's like,
gain Jon's trust because she's like, "Hey, let me send Rattleshirt to go
"Hey, let me send Rattleshirt to go help, you know, Arya because my visions
help, you know, Arya because my visions are real. You now believe that, Jon."
are real. You now believe that, Jon." And Jon, you know, of course, he's not
And Jon, you know, of course, he's not going to trust Rattleshirt. And that's
going to trust Rattleshirt. And that's when the man's reveal happens. And this
when the man's reveal happens. And this is a huge reveal because it kind of
is a huge reveal because it kind of proves something else. If Mel believes
proves something else. If Mel believes right, that it's King's blood that
right, that it's King's blood that matters, right? Why does she burn
matters, right? Why does she burn Rattleshirt instead of man's? Mance is a
Rattleshirt instead of man's? Mance is a king. Rattleshirt is not. And so I think
king. Rattleshirt is not. And so I think that's very fascinating. It tells us
that's very fascinating. It tells us more that it's not doesn't have doesn't
more that it's not doesn't have doesn't really have anything to do with King's
really have anything to do with King's blood. It has something to do with
blood. It has something to do with actually blood, you know, blood
actually blood, you know, blood sacrifices and those types of things.
sacrifices and those types of things. But it also makes us question if this is
But it also makes us question if this is the case, why does Mel believe Stannis
the case, why does Mel believe Stannis is Zorah? She knows Lightbringer is not
is Zorah? She knows Lightbringer is not the true Lightbringer. It doesn't
the true Lightbringer. It doesn't produce heat like Aean said. And she
produce heat like Aean said. And she also does these trickery things to
also does these trickery things to basically fool people. Why does she
basically fool people. Why does she believe in in Stannis? Right? That's the
believe in in Stannis? Right? That's the one thing I think is fascinating about
one thing I think is fascinating about this chapter. But basically, the end of
this chapter. But basically, the end of it is just she gains Jon's trust to send
it is just she gains Jon's trust to send Mance and some spear wives to go save
Mance and some spear wives to go save Arion.
Arion. But I think the thing that's even more
But I think the thing that's even more interesting is when you see that Mance
interesting is when you see that Mance actually does arrive for Arya's wedding,
actually does arrive for Arya's wedding, it kind of disproves the vision that Mel
it kind of disproves the vision that Mel believes she's having because Arya, why
believes she's having because Arya, why would she be fleeing on a horse if she's
would she be fleeing on a horse if she's already at this wedding and already
already at this wedding and already Mance is there and all of those things.
Mance is there and all of those things. It kind of makes that not that vision
It kind of makes that not that vision not be true. But Mel doesn't know that.
not be true. But Mel doesn't know that. Again, it's hard to interpret these
Again, it's hard to interpret these things. We know it's actually end up
things. We know it's actually end up being Alice Karstark. But that'll get us
being Alice Karstark. But that'll get us to chapter 33. And that gets us to Theon
to chapter 33. And that gets us to Theon 3. So Theon 3 to me is weird because of
3. So Theon 3 to me is weird because of all the POVs, Theon is the one that I
all the POVs, Theon is the one that I think every single chapter, he just gets
think every single chapter, he just gets better. Each chapter that goes by
better. Each chapter that goes by improves and is more interesting than
improves and is more interesting than the last. And Theon 3 is no different.
the last. And Theon 3 is no different. As we see Ramsay and his boys coming
As we see Ramsay and his boys coming back to Barrow Town, who went out
back to Barrow Town, who went out searching for the missing bra that were
searching for the missing bra that were with Wyman and it seems very suspicious,
with Wyman and it seems very suspicious, right? Of course, the phrase are the
right? Of course, the phrase are the ones that go missing and Wyron Manderly
ones that go missing and Wyron Manderly would have a lot of issues with the
would have a lot of issues with the phrase, but Theon is scared because
phrase, but Theon is scared because Ramsay didn't find the phrase, and that
Ramsay didn't find the phrase, and that would mean he failed his hunt. He would
would mean he failed his hunt. He would want to hurt someone. And Theon knows
want to hurt someone. And Theon knows more than likely that will be him. Now,
more than likely that will be him. Now, Theon Theon does realize that Ramsay has
Theon Theon does realize that Ramsay has to be a little bit more discreet because
to be a little bit more discreet because they are in Barrow Town. He can't be
they are in Barrow Town. He can't be flaunting his cruelty and things like
flaunting his cruelty and things like that. But still, Theon is a bit on edge
that. But still, Theon is a bit on edge and scared. We even see that Ramsay
and scared. We even see that Ramsay killed a man just for calling him a
killed a man just for calling him a snow. It shows you how insecure Ramsay
snow. It shows you how insecure Ramsay is and petty and how cruel he is. But
is and petty and how cruel he is. But that leads us to a feast that is held as
that leads us to a feast that is held as Theon doesn't get any of the perks of
Theon doesn't get any of the perks of being at this feast. He's chained to a
being at this feast. He's chained to a wall to watch basically and getting any
wall to watch basically and getting any types of maybe scraps like a dog or
types of maybe scraps like a dog or maybe even less than a dog. Theon must
maybe even less than a dog. Theon must watch all of the festivities, but this
watch all of the festivities, but this is all interrupted when Roose Bolton
is all interrupted when Roose Bolton comes into the hall. And Roose and
comes into the hall. And Roose and Ramsay, I think their discussion is
Ramsay, I think their discussion is fascinating
fascinating because it's really Roose telling Ramsay
because it's really Roose telling Ramsay how fragile their rule over the North
how fragile their rule over the North truly is. Most of the North hates them.
truly is. Most of the North hates them. Again, they betrayed Rob Stark, the king
Again, they betrayed Rob Stark, the king that they all seemed to like. And not
that they all seemed to like. And not only that, but Ramsay's actual character
only that, but Ramsay's actual character is not very liked either. He's already
is not very liked either. He's already been shown to be a horrible person.
been shown to be a horrible person. There's all been all these rumors about
There's all been all these rumors about him. And the way he holds himself is
him. And the way he holds himself is also not great. And the way Ramsay is
also not great. And the way Ramsay is kind of using only fear, right? He's not
kind of using only fear, right? He's not understanding how you balance those
understanding how you balance those things. And Ruse is basically putting
things. And Ruse is basically putting Ramsay into his place this whole time.
Ramsay into his place this whole time. And I find it so interesting because up
And I find it so interesting because up to this point, we've kind of only seen
to this point, we've kind of only seen Ramsay being f being fully free to do
Ramsay being f being fully free to do whatever he wants, right? That's kind of
whatever he wants, right? That's kind of what Theon worries so much about. But
what Theon worries so much about. But here's somebody else that checks
here's somebody else that checks Ramsay's power. And it's something that
Ramsay's power. And it's something that could maybe lead to Ramsay killing Roose
could maybe lead to Ramsay killing Roose or Roose killing Ramsay. It's very
or Roose killing Ramsay. It's very interesting to think who is going to win
interesting to think who is going to win out because it's kind of gone back and
out because it's kind of gone back and forth. But they also speak about how
forth. But they also speak about how Stannis is also coming coming to try and
Stannis is also coming coming to try and get rid of their claim because of what
get rid of their claim because of what they've done. And Stannis is gaining
they've done. And Stannis is gaining support, not losing it. At this time,
support, not losing it. At this time, Stannis looks really good. He seems to
Stannis looks really good. He seems to have about 5,000 men with more men
have about 5,000 men with more men supposed to meet him basically when they
supposed to meet him basically when they go to Winterfell. So, so Roose's
go to Winterfell. So, so Roose's position is not looking great, but then
position is not looking great, but then something else shockingly happens.
something else shockingly happens. Theon, who's just been allowed to watch
Theon, who's just been allowed to watch this whole conversation,
this whole conversation, is actually wanted for. Now, Ramsay
is actually wanted for. Now, Ramsay basically threatens Theon to not say
basically threatens Theon to not say anything and all those things and
anything and all those things and basically be a spy. And Roose knows
basically be a spy. And Roose knows those things. Roose is not stupid. Roose
those things. Roose is not stupid. Roose seems to be nice to Theon, which is
seems to be nice to Theon, which is quite weird, right? He talks to Theon as
quite weird, right? He talks to Theon as if he actually cares, if he wants new
if he actually cares, if he wants new clothes or things like that, and he kind
clothes or things like that, and he kind of apologizes for Ramsay's behavior. It
of apologizes for Ramsay's behavior. It doesn't seem right. This isn't the
doesn't seem right. This isn't the character of Roose Bolton that we know.
character of Roose Bolton that we know. And Theon himself kind of thinks already
And Theon himself kind of thinks already that this is a trap. Roose is using him
that this is a trap. Roose is using him for something, but he just doesn't know
for something, but he just doesn't know what that is yet. And Theon's 100%
what that is yet. And Theon's 100% right. Roose is trying to get Theon to
right. Roose is trying to get Theon to play a role to play Theon again to give
play a role to play Theon again to give away Arya at Ramsay's wedding because
away Arya at Ramsay's wedding because that's going to give Arya a lot of
that's going to give Arya a lot of legitimacy. If Theon, somebody that knew
legitimacy. If Theon, somebody that knew her really well, is able is saying
her really well, is able is saying publicly or basically being shown as
publicly or basically being shown as publicly accepting that this is Arya
publicly accepting that this is Arya Stark, it gives the Boltons a lot of
Stark, it gives the Boltons a lot of legitimacy. And that's the game that
legitimacy. And that's the game that Roose is playing. But Roose even goes
Roose is playing. But Roose even goes further talking about the backstory of
further talking about the backstory of not only the first Reek, but also Ramsay
not only the first Reek, but also Ramsay himself. And so we get some of the great
himself. And so we get some of the great conversation between it's mainly Roose
conversation between it's mainly Roose talking to Theon, but you know that some
talking to Theon, but you know that some of that back and forth is very
of that back and forth is very fascinating. And when you get to the
fascinating. And when you get to the final part of this where Barbar Dustin,
final part of this where Barbar Dustin, you know, sees Theon because they're
you know, sees Theon because they're basically going to, you know, see her,
basically going to, you know, see her, she is like shocked at him, right? He
she is like shocked at him, right? He seems to be gone half mad and he doesn't
seems to be gone half mad and he doesn't look like Theon at all, right? People
look like Theon at all, right? People that used to know Theon wouldn't even
that used to know Theon wouldn't even think that this is Theon. Think about
think that this is Theon. Think about Theon one or I guess, you know, Reek
Theon one or I guess, you know, Reek one, but I'm just going to call it
one, but I'm just going to call it Theon. They don't even recognize him in
Theon. They don't even recognize him in that chapter. And that's kind of what we
that chapter. And that's kind of what we see. It's it's Theon being groomed into
see. It's it's Theon being groomed into a role to give away Arya to Ramsay and
a role to give away Arya to Ramsay and that psychological damage that's been
that psychological damage that's been placed there by Ramsay upon Theon.
placed there by Ramsay upon Theon. Really great chapter and again I think
Really great chapter and again I think he only improves through pretty much
he only improves through pretty much each and every chapter. And that gets us
each and every chapter. And that gets us into chapter 34. Chapter 34, which is
into chapter 34. Chapter 34, which is Tyrion 8 to me, is a chapter where not
Tyrion 8 to me, is a chapter where not much happens. It that's that's basically
much happens. It that's that's basically the way I'll sum it up. It's like a
the way I'll sum it up. It's like a repeat of like Tyrion with Young Griff
repeat of like Tyrion with Young Griff where they're on the boat pretty much
where they're on the boat pretty much the entire chapter. But at least in that
the entire chapter. But at least in that chatter, right, you had interesting
chatter, right, you had interesting things going on. Tyrion trying to figure
things going on. Tyrion trying to figure out who all these people are and their
out who all these people are and their interesting backstories and some of the
interesting backstories and some of the conversation with those characters.
conversation with those characters. Well, here that's just not the case.
Well, here that's just not the case. There's really a very few amount of
There's really a very few amount of people that even speak the common speech
people that even speak the common speech on this boat that they're on. And of
on this boat that they're on. And of those people, none of them are truly
those people, none of them are truly interesting outside of Mororrow. And so
interesting outside of Mororrow. And so this chapter follows basically two or
this chapter follows basically two or three things. One, Tyrion's relationship
three things. One, Tyrion's relationship with Penny, right? in trying to, you
with Penny, right? in trying to, you know, be friendly with her and make her
know, be friendly with her and make her feel better cuz they basically took
feel better cuz they basically took Penny along with them on this little
Penny along with them on this little boat trip. And that really to me, I
boat trip. And that really to me, I don't really like Penny and Terry's
don't really like Penny and Terry's Penny and Tyrion's dynamic in this book.
Penny and Tyrion's dynamic in this book. It's just to me a lot of fluff. Um
It's just to me a lot of fluff. Um there's not a ton of substance there.
there's not a ton of substance there. It's, you know, one of those things
It's, you know, one of those things where it's like, oh, Tyrion tries to
where it's like, oh, Tyrion tries to speak to Penny. Penny runs away. They
speak to Penny. Penny runs away. They speak again a little bit later and they
speak again a little bit later and they become kind of friends and it's like,
become kind of friends and it's like, eh, I just don't really care that much
eh, I just don't really care that much about it. Now, the interesting part of
about it. Now, the interesting part of this chapter is the Mcquaro stuff. I'm
this chapter is the Mcquaro stuff. I'm learning more about, you know, the about
learning more about, you know, the about Ror and, you know, the visions that he's
Ror and, you know, the visions that he's seeing. And he even has this very
seeing. And he even has this very cryptic line that seems to be about
cryptic line that seems to be about Euron, which I do find quite
Euron, which I do find quite fascinating. And again, I think of
fascinating. And again, I think of really the next two chapters, this one
really the next two chapters, this one and his next one, the only interesting
and his next one, the only interesting part about the chapter is the Mcquaro
part about the chapter is the Mcquaro stuff. And even that Muaro is going to
stuff. And even that Muaro is going to go to Victarion's plot. There's just not
go to Victarion's plot. There's just not a lot going on for Tyrion. Um,
a lot going on for Tyrion. Um, unfortunately, I I don't find much
unfortunately, I I don't find much interesting with the character. I I
interesting with the character. I I think his chapters are just not needed.
think his chapters are just not needed. Like I almost think that you could have
Like I almost think that you could have just gone from after Tyrion 6, you just
just gone from after Tyrion 6, you just basically quickly retell this stuff
basically quickly retell this stuff because again like I've kind of reviewed
because again like I've kind of reviewed for these chapters with Tyrion. There's
for these chapters with Tyrion. There's not much really to say. Um they get on a
not much really to say. Um they get on a boat, they stay on the boat for a while.
boat, they stay on the boat for a while. Tyrion talks to Aquaro and Penny and
Tyrion talks to Aquaro and Penny and that's it. Like that that that's it. It
that's it. Like that that that's it. It seems like why didn't we just pick up
seems like why didn't we just pick up with like maybe Tyrion already in
with like maybe Tyrion already in slavery or whatever? Like we just don't
slavery or whatever? Like we just don't need this chapter and the next chapter.
need this chapter and the next chapter. Like we don't we almost didn't even need
Like we don't we almost didn't even need three of Tyrion's chapters. Like the
three of Tyrion's chapters. Like the three chapters between the young Griff
three chapters between the young Griff stuff and then also becoming
stuff and then also becoming a slave or being sold into slavery.
a slave or being sold into slavery. That stuff like in between just doesn't
That stuff like in between just doesn't do anything. It doesn't really
do anything. It doesn't really particularly matter. But that'll get us
particularly matter. But that'll get us into chapter 35. So again, like I talked
into chapter 35. So again, like I talked about Tyrion's chapter, which again is
about Tyrion's chapter, which again is not a very good one in my opinion. It's
not a very good one in my opinion. It's very much look it's very much in the
very much look it's very much in the bottom like five chapters so far of the
bottom like five chapters so far of the book. It's placed between a really good
book. It's placed between a really good Theon chapter and placed between a
Theon chapter and placed between a really good Bran chapter. Again, I just
really good Bran chapter. Again, I just think George knows those things when he
think George knows those things when he has weaker and really good chapters. So
has weaker and really good chapters. So this is the end of Bran's actual journey
this is the end of Bran's actual journey within the story that we have right now
within the story that we have right now until Winds of Winter comes out. This is
until Winds of Winter comes out. This is the last chapter we have of Bran and it
the last chapter we have of Bran and it basically follows the and it basically
basically follows the and it basically fulfills in my opinion all of Bran's arc
fulfills in my opinion all of Bran's arc up to now, right? It's him finally
up to now, right? It's him finally awakening his powers and becoming
awakening his powers and becoming somewhat of e the three-eyed crow's
somewhat of e the three-eyed crow's apprentice or possibly maybe the
apprentice or possibly maybe the three-eyed crow in the in the future or
three-eyed crow in the in the future or whatever you want to say, right? But I
whatever you want to say, right? But I never thought I'd ever say this in a
never thought I'd ever say this in a book, but Bran is significantly better
book, but Bran is significantly better than Tyrion. This chapter is
than Tyrion. This chapter is fascinating, right? As Tyrion is, you
fascinating, right? As Tyrion is, you know, warging into Hodor and forcing his
know, warging into Hodor and forcing his will upon Hodor, he's in summer and he's
will upon Hodor, he's in summer and he's exploring these caves and the deep
exploring these caves and the deep places of the children of the forest and
places of the children of the forest and learning a bit more about them. But at
learning a bit more about them. But at the same time, even though they've
the same time, even though they've escaped, you know, the perils of their
escaped, you know, the perils of their journey, Jojan seems to becoming sadder
journey, Jojan seems to becoming sadder and sadder. It seems like he knows
and sadder. It seems like he knows something about his fate is to come. And
something about his fate is to come. And I've kind of talked about a lot of the
I've kind of talked about a lot of the hints. So, I've done multiple Jojan
hints. So, I've done multiple Jojan paste videos. I think the best one I've
paste videos. I think the best one I've probably done was last year when we did
probably done was last year when we did the 25 wins of winter theories um or
the 25 wins of winter theories um or some of the more popular theories. I
some of the more popular theories. I think it's pretty set in stone that
think it's pretty set in stone that Jojan became Jojan paste. This blood
Jojan became Jojan paste. This blood paste that Bran is forced to consume
paste that Bran is forced to consume more or less. And I really do think it's
more or less. And I really do think it's more like a blood sacrifice with the
more like a blood sacrifice with the power and the blood of Jojan awakens
power and the blood of Jojan awakens Bran's basically his third eye more or
Bran's basically his third eye more or less and becomes, you know, of someone
less and becomes, you know, of someone be able to see. As Bran drinks this
be able to see. As Bran drinks this blood paste, it begins to show him
blood paste, it begins to show him visions and he sees a bunch of things
visions and he sees a bunch of things through the godswood and the tree that
through the godswood and the tree that we talk about. I even referenced this in
we talk about. I even referenced this in my reread of Game of Thrones with
my reread of Game of Thrones with Callen's first chapter where she thinks
Callen's first chapter where she thinks that the basically the tree the heart
that the basically the tree the heart tree is basically following her. It's
tree is basically following her. It's its eyes seem to be watching her. That
its eyes seem to be watching her. That seems apparent here with Bran because
seems apparent here with Bran because Bran sees a number of things. He sees a
Bran sees a number of things. He sees a vision of Ned. It seems like right after
vision of Ned. It seems like right after Robert's rebellion um talking about how
Robert's rebellion um talking about how you know Jon and Ned hope Jon and Robin
you know Jon and Ned hope Jon and Robin helping them to grow up as like brothers
helping them to grow up as like brothers and things like that. We also see again
and things like that. We also see again we don't know confirmed uh who these
we don't know confirmed uh who these people are but in the vision it seems
people are but in the vision it seems like we see Lyanna and Benjen playing um
like we see Lyanna and Benjen playing um at the pool. We see some other stuff,
at the pool. We see some other stuff, right? There's there's some other stuff
right? There's there's some other stuff um like a pregnant woman coming out of
um like a pregnant woman coming out of the pool past Starks, which I think is
the pool past Starks, which I think is really interesting. But it goes to show
really interesting. But it goes to show that Brain is connected to a place of
that Brain is connected to a place of home of, you know, his interest and his
home of, you know, his interest and his emotion. And Blood Raven sees that right
emotion. And Blood Raven sees that right away because he himself is drawn to his
away because he himself is drawn to his past. And he gives one of the most
past. And he gives one of the most famous lines of this book and, you know,
famous lines of this book and, you know, trying to speculate on, you know, him as
trying to speculate on, you know, him as a character during the first Blackfire
a character during the first Blackfire Rebellion. He talks about how he had a
Rebellion. He talks about how he had a brother he loved, a brother he hated,
brother he loved, a brother he hated, and a woman he desired. Two of these are
and a woman he desired. Two of these are quite obvious as it's Shier Seaar and
quite obvious as it's Shier Seaar and Aigor in terms of the brother he hated
Aigor in terms of the brother he hated and the woman he desired. But the
and the woman he desired. But the brother he loved is left up to
brother he loved is left up to interpretation. I personally really
interpretation. I personally really subscribe to the theory that that is
subscribe to the theory that that is actually Damon Blackfire. That's the
actually Damon Blackfire. That's the person he loved, but this could also be
person he loved, but this could also be Daron, of course. But to me, I think
Daron, of course. But to me, I think it'd be really cool if it was actually
it'd be really cool if it was actually Dam and Blackfire. But at this point,
Dam and Blackfire. But at this point, the story kind of ends for Bran. He
the story kind of ends for Bran. He doesn't get another chapter in this
doesn't get another chapter in this book, which I think is a shame. Uh I
book, which I think is a shame. Uh I know why though. I think George is going
know why though. I think George is going for this kind of similar to Arya and
for this kind of similar to Arya and Sansa route of the character just needs
Sansa route of the character just needs to have a lot of time offscreen to be
to have a lot of time offscreen to be developing and learning. And so that
developing and learning. And so that when we come back to the character in
when we come back to the character in Winds of Winter, he's probably going to
Winds of Winter, he's probably going to be a very changed character. Not to say
be a very changed character. Not to say he's going to be like a robot like he
he's going to be like a robot like he was in the show, but he might not be as
was in the show, but he might not be as maybe human or might not be as much of
maybe human or might not be as much of Bran as he used to be because of these
Bran as he used to be because of these visions and all these things he's seeing
visions and all these things he's seeing and the knowledge that he may now know.
and the knowledge that he may now know. But that gets us to chapter 36, John 7.
But that gets us to chapter 36, John 7. And I I do want to say, you know, Bran,
And I I do want to say, you know, Bran, this is probably his best book. Even
this is probably his best book. Even though this is probably even though this
though this is probably even though this is the book that he's in with the least
is the book that he's in with the least amount of chapters, I think he's really
amount of chapters, I think he's really good in this book. And I wish we got a
good in this book. And I wish we got a little bit more of him. I wish we got
little bit more of him. I wish we got like one or two more chapters, but we'll
like one or two more chapters, but we'll have to wait until winds of winter. So,
have to wait until winds of winter. So, getting into John's 7. Again, this is
getting into John's 7. Again, this is just another one of those chapters that
just another one of those chapters that it's just in the middle of John's arc.
it's just in the middle of John's arc. It's building things to come for later
It's building things to come for later on. Not much really happens. It's Jon
on. Not much really happens. It's Jon going ranging with some new recruits who
going ranging with some new recruits who are going to say their vows at the for
are going to say their vows at the for the old with the old gods. It's the same
the old with the old gods. It's the same thing that Jon and Sam do in book one,
thing that Jon and Sam do in book one, but it seems a bit more risky now,
but it seems a bit more risky now, right? You just have this wildling
right? You just have this wildling attack on the wall. The others are
attack on the wall. The others are becoming more and more prominent. It
becoming more and more prominent. It seems a very dangerous mission to say
seems a very dangerous mission to say some vows. But John rightly so says, you
some vows. But John rightly so says, you know, these men are swearing their lives
know, these men are swearing their lives to the wall. I will go with them, right?
to the wall. I will go with them, right? It's a very important thing for them to
It's a very important thing for them to see me there. And I think that's a
see me there. And I think that's a really good moment from John. But
really good moment from John. But outside of that, like there'sn't much
outside of that, like there'sn't much happening, right? You have one thing
happening, right? You have one thing where Jon is trying to reopen some of
where Jon is trying to reopen some of the castles, and he's going to have one
the castles, and he's going to have one where it's basically all females. That's
where it's basically all females. That's going to be all the spear wives and
going to be all the spear wives and things. That's going to be led by Iron
things. That's going to be led by Iron EMTT and Dolores Ed, which to me is
EMTT and Dolores Ed, which to me is another kind of mistake. I know why he's
another kind of mistake. I know why he's doing it because he needs men he can
doing it because he needs men he can trust to overlook the new castles and
trust to overlook the new castles and especially with a castle full of women,
especially with a castle full of women, but at the same time, he's taking, in my
but at the same time, he's taking, in my opinion, two of his last like real loyal
opinion, two of his last like real loyal supporters and doing away with them,
supporters and doing away with them, right? so that he is slowly and slowly
right? so that he is slowly and slowly isolating himself even more. But upon
isolating himself even more. But upon arrival, they find a group of wildlings
arrival, they find a group of wildlings and a giant and they actually go end up
and a giant and they actually go end up surrounding them just in case, you know,
surrounding them just in case, you know, they're going to have to attack them.
they're going to have to attack them. But we have this weird moment of peace.
But we have this weird moment of peace. You know, these wildlings and this
You know, these wildlings and this giant, they're basically dying. They
giant, they're basically dying. They have no food left. They have no hope of
have no food left. They have no hope of getting, you know, south of the wall.
getting, you know, south of the wall. They won't be able to make it to hard.
They won't be able to make it to hard. They're dying. And so John after hearing
They're dying. And so John after hearing these vows decides that he should help
these vows decides that he should help these wildlings as well. They are men.
these wildlings as well. They are men. They they are human. They should defend
They they are human. They should defend them as well. And and they basically are
them as well. And and they basically are deciding to let them come with them
deciding to let them come with them through the wall. But not only does he
through the wall. But not only does he allow wildlings through the wall, he
allow wildlings through the wall, he also brings two of the bodies of the
also brings two of the bodies of the wildlings with them. He wants to study
wildlings with them. He wants to study them to see if, you know, if the others
them to see if, you know, if the others are able to come back or not and what
are able to come back or not and what that means. But the problem I once again
that means. But the problem I once again have with Jon, and this has been a
have with Jon, and this has been a prominent theme throughout the entire
prominent theme throughout the entire story for Jon, is he just doesn't
story for Jon, is he just doesn't communicate things well. And don't get
communicate things well. And don't get me wrong, he is the Lord Commander. He
me wrong, he is the Lord Commander. He doesn't have to tell everybody
doesn't have to tell everybody everything.
everything. But when you're bringing two dead bodies
But when you're bringing two dead bodies south of the from from north of the wall
south of the from from north of the wall to the south,
to the south, it's a little weird. Like, and he
it's a little weird. Like, and he doesn't really explain that to the
doesn't really explain that to the people. Maybe he explains that to like
people. Maybe he explains that to like Bow and Marsh or whatever. But if you're
Bow and Marsh or whatever. But if you're an average Nights Watchman and you're
an average Nights Watchman and you're seeing this and you're going, "Huh,
seeing this and you're going, "Huh, where we brought back some wildlings and
where we brought back some wildlings and a giant people that we've been against
a giant people that we've been against and fought against forever and you're
and fought against forever and you're bringing back two dead bodies." It's
bringing back two dead bodies." It's just a weird look for Jon and he doesn't
just a weird look for Jon and he doesn't help himself. And that's what I just uh
help himself. And that's what I just uh it's so frustrating to read Jon
it's so frustrating to read Jon sometimes because he does not express
sometimes because he does not express why he does things. And so you're
why he does things. And so you're leaving it up to, you know, rumors and
leaving it up to, you know, rumors and what people think Jon may be thinking.
what people think Jon may be thinking. And that's what a lot, I think, leads to
And that's what a lot, I think, leads to his death. But that is not exactly the
his death. But that is not exactly the end of it either. As he as he hears news
end of it either. As he as he hears news of Stannis's conquest, as his army is
of Stannis's conquest, as his army is growing, but he wonders if Winterfell is
growing, but he wonders if Winterfell is a trap for Stannis, which it is, right?
a trap for Stannis, which it is, right? We know that that is the case. It is a
We know that that is the case. It is a trap because the Boltons are going to
trap because the Boltons are going to get to go to a defensible position.
get to go to a defensible position. They're going to have more food and
They're going to have more food and ration than Stannis. stand. So we have
ration than Stannis. stand. So we have to siege them and be outside of the
to siege them and be outside of the wall. And we also know and we also know
wall. And we also know and we also know that he is going to be betrayed by the
that he is going to be betrayed by the carstark coming here as well. So yes,
carstark coming here as well. So yes, Jon is quite right. And also Arya isn't
Jon is quite right. And also Arya isn't the real Arya, but that doesn't matter
the real Arya, but that doesn't matter to Stannis. He doesn't know that
to Stannis. He doesn't know that information. And the mountain clans that
information. And the mountain clans that he has with him, they are going to want
he has with him, they are going to want to save Arya. And that's going to force
to save Arya. And that's going to force Stannis's hand. He has to go to
Stannis's hand. He has to go to Winterfell. He can't just allow this
Winterfell. He can't just allow this marriage and all this stuff to actually
marriage and all this stuff to actually happen. That gets us to chapter 37,
happen. That gets us to chapter 37, Danny 6. I really like the opening of
Danny 6. I really like the opening of this chapter, but I don't like the end.
this chapter, but I don't like the end. And so, we'll talk about it. There's
And so, we'll talk about it. There's there's two parts of this chapter. And
there's two parts of this chapter. And it's weird to me because it's the main
it's weird to me because it's the main two like I think conflicting forces of
two like I think conflicting forces of of why I like and don't like Daenerys in
of why I like and don't like Daenerys in this book because part of it is the side
this book because part of it is the side of her trying to rule, right? It's her
of her trying to rule, right? It's her trying to save people, but she doesn't
trying to save people, but she doesn't know how to do that. And so it's her
know how to do that. And so it's her inspecting, you know, the refugees and
inspecting, you know, the refugees and the horror that this war has created.
the horror that this war has created. You know, people are left dying outside
You know, people are left dying outside of Marine. These Ato refugees, they're,
of Marine. These Ato refugees, they're, you know, going without food and
you know, going without food and supplies and people are too afraid to
supplies and people are too afraid to even, you know, go near them and so
even, you know, go near them and so they're just left to die. Really, it
they're just left to die. Really, it reminds me a lot of one of the Daenerys
reminds me a lot of one of the Daenerys chapters in a Game of Thrones. I believe
chapters in a Game of Thrones. I believe it's Daenerys 7 if I'm not mistaken
it's Daenerys 7 if I'm not mistaken where she's basically seeing all these
where she's basically seeing all these people being, you know, sexually abused
people being, you know, sexually abused and and killed by the Dothraki. And
and and killed by the Dothraki. And that's kind of the same idea here. It's
that's kind of the same idea here. It's just it's not it's not because of people
just it's not it's not because of people actually harming them. It's because this
actually harming them. It's because this shortage of food. It's because of, you
shortage of food. It's because of, you know, this disease that has been created
know, this disease that has been created because of war. And it's George really
because of war. And it's George really hammering into us that war, this is what
hammering into us that war, this is what it does to people. And it's Daenerys
it does to people. And it's Daenerys trying to do her best, right? It's her
trying to do her best, right? It's her trying to give these people comfort,
trying to give these people comfort, whether it's just, you know, blessing
whether it's just, you know, blessing them or trying to clean them or, you
them or trying to clean them or, you know, care for them, trying to show that
know, care for them, trying to show that she cares because that's the only thing
she cares because that's the only thing that she can do for them, right? Her men
that she can do for them, right? Her men are too afraid to to bring them food and
are too afraid to to bring them food and all of those things. So, she all she can
all of those things. So, she all she can really do is try to give them attention,
really do is try to give them attention, right? She's helpless to their please uh
right? She's helpless to their please uh for help. She can do really nothing. And
for help. She can do really nothing. And so, that's the part of the chapter I
so, that's the part of the chapter I really do enjoy. I love putting Daenerys
really do enjoy. I love putting Daenerys in the Daenerys in these situations
in the Daenerys in these situations where she doesn't know what she can do.
where she doesn't know what she can do. She feels hopeless. She feels back into
She feels hopeless. She feels back into a corner. That's going to lead to some
a corner. That's going to lead to some interesting, you know, conflicts. The
interesting, you know, conflicts. The part of the chapter I'm not a huge fan
part of the chapter I'm not a huge fan of is the part where it's Daenerys
of is the part where it's Daenerys discussing like marriage traditions with
discussing like marriage traditions with Hizdar and they're at dinner kind of
Hizdar and they're at dinner kind of talking about some of those things. I
talking about some of those things. I don't really like that part of her story
don't really like that part of her story much. I I don't really like Daenerys's
much. I I don't really like Daenerys's kind of romance arcs in this with
kind of romance arcs in this with whether that's with Quentyn, whether
whether that's with Quentyn, whether it's with Daario, whether it's with his
it's with Daario, whether it's with his Dar, just not my favorite thing for
Dar, just not my favorite thing for Daenerys. Um, and that really comes up,
Daenerys. Um, and that really comes up, you know, after this as well because not
you know, after this as well because not only do we get kind of the marriage
only do we get kind of the marriage stuff going on, but after the marriage
stuff going on, but after the marriage stuff, Daario arrives telling her of how
stuff, Daario arrives telling her of how things are going, right? Y Kai is
things are going, right? Y Kai is marching on Meereen. But not only that,
marching on Meereen. But not only that, to Daenerys's heartbreak, Brown Brown
to Daenerys's heartbreak, Brown Brown Ben Plum with the second sons have
Ben Plum with the second sons have actually switched sides. And it's so
actually switched sides. And it's so heartbreaking because Daenerys really
heartbreaking because Daenerys really liked him. And that becomes very
liked him. And that becomes very apparent. She thinks about him during
apparent. She thinks about him during like their council meetings that she
like their council meetings that she really does enjoy him. And to see him
really does enjoy him. And to see him flip on her and it seems to be because
flip on her and it seems to be because she's not using her dragons. Her case is
she's not using her dragons. Her case is looking worse and worse. She not she's
looking worse and worse. She not she's not leaning into being a Targaryen. And
not leaning into being a Targaryen. And so I like that Daenerys I like I really
so I like that Daenerys I like I really like that Daenerys is facing
like that Daenerys is facing consequences for some of the things that
consequences for some of the things that she's done and for not listening to
she's done and for not listening to council. But the chapter ends with her
council. But the chapter ends with her basically having sex with Daario, which
basically having sex with Daario, which is always not my favorite stuff. But
is always not my favorite stuff. But yeah, I think a solid chapter overall.
yeah, I think a solid chapter overall. But for me, like Danny 6 is the most I
But for me, like Danny 6 is the most I don't know how would I say this, the
don't know how would I say this, the most chapter of this book. It has its
most chapter of this book. It has its good things and it also has its bad
good things and it also has its bad things unfortunately. But that'll get us
things unfortunately. But that'll get us into number 38 which is thankfully
into number 38 which is thankfully another Theon chapter. So Theon 4 to me
another Theon chapter. So Theon 4 to me is a very controversial chapter to me.
is a very controversial chapter to me. I'm not even sure how this chapter is
I'm not even sure how this chapter is viewed by most of the A Song of Fire
viewed by most of the A Song of Fire community because it's definitely one of
community because it's definitely one of the darkest chapters in A Song of Fire.
the darkest chapters in A Song of Fire. This chapter is is Jane Pool and
This chapter is is Jane Pool and Ramsay's wedding. So, you already know
Ramsay's wedding. So, you already know where this chapter is kind of going, but
where this chapter is kind of going, but I won't lie. This is definitely one of
I won't lie. This is definitely one of my favorite chapters. And it's weird to
my favorite chapters. And it's weird to me that I say that because of the such a
me that I say that because of the such a controversial ending to the chapter and
controversial ending to the chapter and how horrifying that is. But at the same
how horrifying that is. But at the same time, I'm a big Maester conspiracy fan
time, I'm a big Maester conspiracy fan and I love Barbarie Dustin's speech on
and I love Barbarie Dustin's speech on the maesters and I'm like, I'm right
the maesters and I'm like, I'm right there with you, sis. I agree. Those
there with you, sis. I agree. Those maesters are sus as hell. But let let
maesters are sus as hell. But let let me, you know, chronologically break down
me, you know, chronologically break down this chapter a little bit for you guys.
this chapter a little bit for you guys. Just a lot of things that come to mind
Just a lot of things that come to mind about this chapter that I really do
about this chapter that I really do enjoy. So the first thing I enjoy about
enjoy. So the first thing I enjoy about this is establishing that relation that
this is establishing that relation that relationship between Jane Pool and
relationship between Jane Pool and Theon. You know, her basically pleading
Theon. You know, her basically pleading Theon for help and all these things and
Theon for help and all these things and Theon who is trying to help her by
Theon who is trying to help her by telling her to be Arya, right? Don't let
telling her to be Arya, right? Don't let him don't give him a reason to hurt you.
him don't give him a reason to hurt you. It's right. It's literally Theon who's
It's right. It's literally Theon who's been abused by this person for a long
been abused by this person for a long time now. It's really shows to us kind
time now. It's really shows to us kind of how that abuse has worked and
of how that abuse has worked and psychologically broken Theon, but it's
psychologically broken Theon, but it's also an a very haunting chapter as well.
also an a very haunting chapter as well. This is Theon's first chapter back in
This is Theon's first chapter back in Winterfell. And so, it's a very dark
Winterfell. And so, it's a very dark chapter in terms of what it represents
chapter in terms of what it represents to Theon. So Theon not only has to go
to Theon. So Theon not only has to go back into kind of playing the role of
back into kind of playing the role of Theon, which is already very
Theon, which is already very uncomfortable for him, he has to give
uncomfortable for him, he has to give away Jane Pool. It's basically him
away Jane Pool. It's basically him giving her away to be abused and
giving her away to be abused and tortured the way Theon has been. And
tortured the way Theon has been. And it's just him struggling through that,
it's just him struggling through that, struggling through this mentally,
struggling through this mentally, struggling through it physically as he
struggling through it physically as he tries to make sure he walks straight and
tries to make sure he walks straight and doesn't fall or any of those things
doesn't fall or any of those things because of, you know, his toes being
because of, you know, his toes being taken or whatnot. It's an incredibly
taken or whatnot. It's an incredibly dark chapter, but even more so after the
dark chapter, but even more so after the wedding happens, because it happens, you
wedding happens, because it happens, you know, outside, Theon hears his name,
know, outside, Theon hears his name, seems to be calling for him, trying to
seems to be calling for him, trying to awaken him as being Theon and breaking
awaken him as being Theon and breaking him out of this Greek persona. It seems
him out of this Greek persona. It seems to be in my opinion Bran speaking to him
to be in my opinion Bran speaking to him from the godswood which is very
from the godswood which is very interesting telling us that maybe you
interesting telling us that maybe you know what Brendan Rivers tells Bran that
know what Brendan Rivers tells Bran that he can't change the past maybe not true
he can't change the past maybe not true Bran may be more powerful than Brendan
Bran may be more powerful than Brendan Rivers ever was because he definitely
Rivers ever was because he definitely seems to reach out to Theon or maybe
seems to reach out to Theon or maybe Theon's imagining it but either way it's
Theon's imagining it but either way it's Theon slowly breaking out of this Reek
Theon slowly breaking out of this Reek that that he's been trained to play as
that that he's been trained to play as but we get the feast. And this is where
but we get the feast. And this is where I think the chapter really gets
I think the chapter really gets interesting because on one hand you have
interesting because on one hand you have the Frey pie theory that is prevalent
the Frey pie theory that is prevalent here or why Manly is very excited about
here or why Manly is very excited about these pies and having a lot of servings
these pies and having a lot of servings of pie. And so I really enjoy that part
of pie. And so I really enjoy that part of it. It seems like that Frey pie is
of it. It seems like that Frey pie is happening, but I really enjoy the
happening, but I really enjoy the conversation that Barbarie has with
conversation that Barbarie has with Theon where she's telling him a lot
Theon where she's telling him a lot about her past and her relationship with
about her past and her relationship with Brandon Stark and the reason Ricard
Brandon Stark and the reason Ricard Stark even went south and trying to get
Stark even went south and trying to get these alliances with the South. It's
these alliances with the South. It's really interesting to see the way we
really interesting to see the way we this character was made through those
this character was made through those things and some of the things happening
things and some of the things happening before Robert's rebellion. It's very
before Robert's rebellion. It's very interesting to see those things and I
interesting to see those things and I love all of that. I love the maester
love all of that. I love the maester stuff. And then we get to probably one
stuff. And then we get to probably one of the most horrifying things of this
of the most horrifying things of this chapter. As soon as we read that Theon
chapter. As soon as we read that Theon is called by Ramsay, you can tell where
is called by Ramsay, you can tell where this is going right away because Theon
this is going right away because Theon is forced to, let's just say, get Arya
is forced to, let's just say, get Arya ready for her husband on their bedding
ready for her husband on their bedding ceremony. Let's just put it that way.
ceremony. Let's just put it that way. And it's incredibly difficult to read.
And it's incredibly difficult to read. It's incredibly difficult. Theon having
It's incredibly difficult. Theon having to get Jane ready for Ramsay. It's just
to get Jane ready for Ramsay. It's just psychological torture. It's telling
psychological torture. It's telling Theon that you can't do anything. Theon
Theon that you can't do anything. Theon even has a knife. He could try to attack
even has a knife. He could try to attack Ramsay, but he doesn't. It's just that
Ramsay, but he doesn't. It's just that breaking. It's slowly Theon being broken
breaking. It's slowly Theon being broken down. It's slowly Theon realizing he
down. It's slowly Theon realizing he needs to become Theon again. And so, I
needs to become Theon again. And so, I really like the chapter. I think it's
really like the chapter. I think it's incredibly dark. I know it's a
incredibly dark. I know it's a controversial chapter of this series,
controversial chapter of this series, but I do really like the chapter overall
but I do really like the chapter overall for what it does for the story. And that
for what it does for the story. And that gets us to number 39, Arya. Aryo Hod.
gets us to number 39, Arya. Aryo Hod. And I I mentioned this earlier on in the
And I I mentioned this earlier on in the video, but this is the one and only
video, but this is the one and only Dornish chapter we get. There's no Aron
Dornish chapter we get. There's no Aron chapters in this book. And so this is
chapters in this book. And so this is kind of our update chapter, right? Just
kind of our update chapter, right? Just to kind of tell us what's going on in
to kind of tell us what's going on in Dorne to get us ready for Winds of
Dorne to get us ready for Winds of Winter. And so we see Arya Hoda at the
Winter. And so we see Arya Hoda at the first half of this chapter is all about
first half of this chapter is all about this kind of feast that's taking place
this kind of feast that's taking place where Balon Swan has finally arrived to
where Balon Swan has finally arrived to Sunspear. And now what's going to
Sunspear. And now what's going to happen, right? Balon Swan was sent to
happen, right? Balon Swan was sent to get back Myrrcella. But where is
get back Myrrcella. But where is Myrrcella? And how is Duran going to
Myrrcella? And how is Duran going to spin this tale of what occurred or with
spin this tale of what occurred or with Aron's coup that was trying to put
Aron's coup that was trying to put Myrcella on the throne? What is going to
Myrcella on the throne? What is going to happen there? What is Doran Duran going
happen there? What is Doran Duran going to tell Balon Swan in terms of Aeros
to tell Balon Swan in terms of Aeros Oakart's death and Marcela's kind of
Oakart's death and Marcela's kind of missing ear? What is he going to tell
missing ear? What is he going to tell him? And so the whole thing plays out as
him? And so the whole thing plays out as kind of just a performance from Durant.
kind of just a performance from Durant. Even allegedly Gregor's head has been
Even allegedly Gregor's head has been delivered, which is which is complete
delivered, which is which is complete and utter BS, right? That's just not
and utter BS, right? That's just not Gregor's head. And the first half this
Gregor's head. And the first half this is just full of tension. I really like
is just full of tension. I really like that part of this chapter. It's full of
that part of this chapter. It's full of tension. The Dornish, even when there's
tension. The Dornish, even when there's like a toast for Tommen, the Dor half
like a toast for Tommen, the Dor half the Dornish seem to not even toast at
the Dornish seem to not even toast at all. It shows how Dorne is on the brink
all. It shows how Dorne is on the brink of war. But the second half talks about
of war. But the second half talks about the real Dornish plan and what Duran has
the real Dornish plan and what Duran has planned. He is going to basically get
planned. He is going to basically get Balon Swan to go after Dark Stars. My
Balon Swan to go after Dark Stars. My Marcela will be fed kind of a lie about
Marcela will be fed kind of a lie about what truly happened. And Duran is going
what truly happened. And Duran is going to set out getting the Sand Snakes in
to set out getting the Sand Snakes in positions of power or influence or
positions of power or influence or trying to basically make them spies.
trying to basically make them spies. He's going to send Obara to assist with
He's going to send Obara to assist with Dark Star's capture because he's
Dark Star's capture because he's somebody that knows what would have
somebody that knows what would have happened and you know you want him dead
happened and you know you want him dead more or less. He wants Nimriia to take
more or less. He wants Nimriia to take Oberin's seat on the council and Tyenne
Oberin's seat on the council and Tyenne needs to get close to the high septin.
needs to get close to the high septin. He wants the sand snakes in a position
He wants the sand snakes in a position to bite if needed be like a snake. And
to bite if needed be like a snake. And he also reveals the plot that was set
he also reveals the plot that was set before him that what was really supposed
before him that what was really supposed to happen was when Tristain and
to happen was when Tristain and Myrrcella were going to be on their way
Myrrcella were going to be on their way back to King's Landing, they were going
back to King's Landing, they were going to based
to based a group of basically mercenaries that
a group of basically mercenaries that was going to be shouting basically half
was going to be shouting basically half man or the imp that were going to more
man or the imp that were going to more or less make Duran not think it was
or less make Duran not think it was Cersei that did it as they were going to
Cersei that did it as they were going to have Tristane killed blaming Tyrion. And
have Tristane killed blaming Tyrion. And so you see how Duran is very smart. He's
so you see how Duran is very smart. He's understanding what the circumstances are
understanding what the circumstances are and he's changing the field. And so I
and he's changing the field. And so I really like that part of it. Now the
really like that part of it. Now the other part part of this chapter I really
other part part of this chapter I really like as well is actually sand. How she
like as well is actually sand. How she doesn't want any of this war and
doesn't want any of this war and violence to happen anymore. She doesn't
violence to happen anymore. She doesn't want killing. She doesn't want all these
want killing. She doesn't want all these things. She's very smart. But yeah, it's
things. She's very smart. But yeah, it's a very but this chapter is a very good
a very but this chapter is a very good chapter of setting up the Dornish plot
chapter of setting up the Dornish plot to go forward. But I think my only
to go forward. But I think my only problem with this chapter is just Ariota
problem with this chapter is just Ariota is not a very interesting POV. Um, since
is not a very interesting POV. Um, since we're in his head, I mean, he just kind
we're in his head, I mean, he just kind of stands there and watches everything.
of stands there and watches everything. He doesn't really have too much of an
He doesn't really have too much of an actual personality. He's very much a
actual personality. He's very much a passive POV character, which isn't
passive POV character, which isn't necessarily a bad thing all the time,
necessarily a bad thing all the time, but it's when you have a character that
but it's when you have a character that doesn't have much enjoyment value. Like
doesn't have much enjoyment value. Like he doesn't have like for instance, say
he doesn't have like for instance, say like Tyrion in the first three books
like Tyrion in the first three books where, you know, in being inside of his
where, you know, in being inside of his head, he thinks very interesting
head, he thinks very interesting thoughts and he's very interesting
thoughts and he's very interesting character. Ariota is kind of one note
character. Ariota is kind of one note but still a great chapter. Uh and
but still a great chapter. Uh and that'll move us into 40th chapter John
that'll move us into 40th chapter John 8. Now John 8 is not exactly a long
8. Now John 8 is not exactly a long chapter. It's actually quite short, but
chapter. It's actually quite short, but in my opinion, it is a pivotal chapter
in my opinion, it is a pivotal chapter into the second half of John's story
into the second half of John's story because on one hand, he's making a huge
because on one hand, he's making a huge risk of sending Val to Tormund to try
risk of sending Val to Tormund to try and get him to basically treat with him
and get him to basically treat with him and to basically create a piece in which
and to basically create a piece in which the wildlings can come south of the
the wildlings can come south of the wall. This is a massive move, right?
wall. This is a massive move, right? Because the wildlings that came through
Because the wildlings that came through the wall before, not the ones like in
the wall before, not the ones like in the last chapter I talked about with
the last chapter I talked about with John, uh that little small party that
John, uh that little small party that came through. The last time the
came through. The last time the wildlings were allowed to come south was
wildlings were allowed to come south was because Stannis allowed that to happen
because Stannis allowed that to happen and all of those things. This is
and all of those things. This is completely different, right? This is
completely different, right? This is having thousands of wildlings come
having thousands of wildlings come through the wall willingly um by Jon. It
through the wall willingly um by Jon. It is very threatening because if you think
is very threatening because if you think about the wildlings and the nights watch
about the wildlings and the nights watch have been enemies for years, right? And
have been enemies for years, right? And you're going to now allow them to go
you're going to now allow them to go through the wall, your only defense
through the wall, your only defense against the wildlings. Well, what if the
against the wildlings. Well, what if the wildlings turn on you, right? What if
wildlings turn on you, right? What if they remember all these people that that
they remember all these people that that they have lost because of the nights
they have lost because of the nights watch? What stops them from rallying up
watch? What stops them from rallying up and killing all of them, right? They
and killing all of them, right? They don't have enough men to, you know, man
don't have enough men to, you know, man the walls. And the counter to that is
the walls. And the counter to that is obviously, well, the others threat,
obviously, well, the others threat, right? It's at least they're human. You
right? It's at least they're human. You can negotiate with them. And so it's one
can negotiate with them. And so it's one of these weird things because Jon is
of these weird things because Jon is getting rid of Val, who is Stannis's
getting rid of Val, who is Stannis's prize. Stannis would not want her to be
prize. Stannis would not want her to be released. And it's also you're doing
released. And it's also you're doing something that is heavily against the
something that is heavily against the Nights Watch. And again, Shawn doesn't
Nights Watch. And again, Shawn doesn't take any type of counsel. He doesn't
take any type of counsel. He doesn't listen to anybody. He just acts. He does
listen to anybody. He just acts. He does this thing with Val without getting any
this thing with Val without getting any counsel from anybody else, seeing what
counsel from anybody else, seeing what they think about this. And so it comes
they think about this. And so it comes off as Jon going against the Night's
off as Jon going against the Night's Watch and doing things just recklessly.
Watch and doing things just recklessly. And that's the big part of this because
And that's the big part of this because the second half of the chapter is going
the second half of the chapter is going to be people voicing their complaints,
to be people voicing their complaints, right? Led by kind of Bow and Marsh
right? Led by kind of Bow and Marsh because Jon has been doing some things
because Jon has been doing some things that are quite weird because from their
that are quite weird because from their point of view who Jon is not really
point of view who Jon is not really having any council with anybody. He's
having any council with anybody. He's just making decisions on his own. People
just making decisions on his own. People don't understand what he's doing. He
don't understand what he's doing. He just doesn't explain it. And so the
just doesn't explain it. And so the reason he dies is really built upon this
reason he dies is really built upon this chapter in my opinion because not only
chapter in my opinion because not only is he going to be, you know, pissing off
is he going to be, you know, pissing off Stannis and his men, he's also going to
Stannis and his men, he's also going to be pissing off the Nights Watch as well.
be pissing off the Nights Watch as well. And so he has no backing really on any
And so he has no backing really on any of the decisions he's making. He just
of the decisions he's making. He just does them. And so Bowen Marsh and the
does them. And so Bowen Marsh and the others talk about how Leathers has been
others talk about how Leathers has been made a master of arms, but he's a
made a master of arms, but he's a wildling. and how Satine is has become
wildling. and how Satine is has become basically what Jon used to be for Gor
basically what Jon used to be for Gor Mormont and that's meant to be, you
Mormont and that's meant to be, you know, grooming him for rule. Well,
know, grooming him for rule. Well, that's not how that's supposed to work.
that's not how that's supposed to work. Satine is very lowborn, right? He is
Satine is very lowborn, right? He is someone that has a very troubled past.
someone that has a very troubled past. Why is he being groomed for rule, right?
Why is he being groomed for rule, right? It's this hierarchy and they just don't
It's this hierarchy and they just don't understand Jon's motivations. They don't
understand Jon's motivations. They don't understand why Jon is doing things and
understand why Jon is doing things and Jon doesn't bother explaining it to
Jon doesn't bother explaining it to them. But then they also argue about
them. But then they also argue about sending Val and to negotiate with
sending Val and to negotiate with Tormund at all, as well as these dead
Tormund at all, as well as these dead bodies Jon has brought back and said
bodies Jon has brought back and said nothing about. And Jon, I think in my
nothing about. And Jon, I think in my opinion, is completely wrong in the way
opinion, is completely wrong in the way he handles this conversation. What these
he handles this conversation. What these people want, they're not being
people want, they're not being antagonistic to Jon. They're questioning
antagonistic to Jon. They're questioning him. They want to know why he's doing
him. They want to know why he's doing the things he does because he doesn't
the things he does because he doesn't ask anybody for counsel. He acts alone.
ask anybody for counsel. He acts alone. And yes, you can do those things, right?
And yes, you can do those things, right? that a king or a lord commander has that
that a king or a lord commander has that power, but what does it do? It isolates
power, but what does it do? It isolates the people around you, especially when
the people around you, especially when it's controversial things, right? Think
it's controversial things, right? Think about Aegon the 5th. He's a king that is
about Aegon the 5th. He's a king that is definitely a good person at heart, but a
definitely a good person at heart, but a lot of the things that he does goes
lot of the things that he does goes against his council. It goes against the
against his council. It goes against the people that are the wealthy and the
people that are the wealthy and the highborn and it puts a massive target on
highborn and it puts a massive target on Aegon's back to where he's not able to
Aegon's back to where he's not able to ever really keep these things enforced
ever really keep these things enforced because because he just does things that
because because he just does things that a lot of people don't like. He doesn't
a lot of people don't like. He doesn't make people understand why these things
make people understand why these things need to happen. And it's a bit
need to happen. And it's a bit different. I think Aon the fifth is way
different. I think Aon the fifth is way more justified than Jon is here. But Jon
more justified than Jon is here. But Jon should be telling them a lot more. He
should be telling them a lot more. He just basically yells at them and just
just basically yells at them and just kind of like shuts the conversation
kind of like shuts the conversation down. There's no real discussion on
down. There's no real discussion on ideology or thoughts in a meaningful
ideology or thoughts in a meaningful way. It's John being very youthful and
way. It's John being very youthful and very egotistical. Right? I am somebody
very egotistical. Right? I am somebody when I was younger, I re I relate to
when I was younger, I re I relate to John a lot in this. I was somebody that
John a lot in this. I was somebody that didn't know exactly how to converse with
didn't know exactly how to converse with people when they have different
people when they have different conflicting views than your own. How do
conflicting views than your own. How do you deal with those kind of
you deal with those kind of conversations?
conversations? And John kind of reminds me of myself. I
And John kind of reminds me of myself. I wasn't able to do those things. And you
wasn't able to do those things. And you know, I've I've learned, I think, a lot
know, I've I've learned, I think, a lot from that. And so for an example, I
from that. And so for an example, I don't believe in, you know, certain
don't believe in, you know, certain things like smoking because maybe
things like smoking because maybe health, you know, or whatever, but I
health, you know, or whatever, but I still have friends that maybe do do
still have friends that maybe do do those things, but I it's not like I hate
those things, but I it's not like I hate them or anything like that. Like that's
them or anything like that. Like that's what they want to do with their life and
what they want to do with their life and that's what they want to do. So who am I
that's what they want to do. So who am I to judge them for those things? That's
to judge them for those things? That's kind of how I view like Jon right now.
kind of how I view like Jon right now. He's not doing that though. John is
He's not doing that though. John is somebody that is very much doing my way
somebody that is very much doing my way or the highway type philosophy and he's
or the highway type philosophy and he's not even explaining why he got onto his
not even explaining why he got onto his highway of thought. And so I think John
highway of thought. And so I think John is not the greatest Lord Commander
is not the greatest Lord Commander because he doesn't know how to explain
because he doesn't know how to explain things. He's not very good at
things. He's not very good at communication. But I I really brought a
communication. But I I really brought a lot of attention to this chapter and I
lot of attention to this chapter and I went on a little bit more of a tangent
went on a little bit more of a tangent with this one because this is a pivotal
with this one because this is a pivotal chapter. It is a chapter that condemns
chapter. It is a chapter that condemns Jon's fate because it's one setting up
Jon's fate because it's one setting up the plotline for Tormund to come south
the plotline for Tormund to come south to the wall and all the wildlings. The
to the wall and all the wildlings. The thing that basically nails it in the
thing that basically nails it in the coffin that Jon is going to be killed.
coffin that Jon is going to be killed. He's isolating the people that gave him
He's isolating the people that gave him power. So, something I talked about on
power. So, something I talked about on Tuesday's video with Catelyn in her
Tuesday's video with Catelyn in her first chapter of the Clash of Kings, she
first chapter of the Clash of Kings, she kind of gives Rob the same advice that
kind of gives Rob the same advice that like Jon's doing right now. Even if the
like Jon's doing right now. Even if the people around you don't like what you're
people around you don't like what you're doing, you're still the king. They can't
doing, you're still the king. They can't unmake you. And something that Rob
unmake you. And something that Rob responds with, which is very wise, is
responds with, which is very wise, is that the same people that make you a
that the same people that make you a king can unmake you a king. That's same
king can unmake you a king. That's same thing that applies here to John. So, I
thing that applies here to John. So, I really like the the the writing that
really like the the the writing that George does for this chapter because it
George does for this chapter because it needs to work. This is the flip chapter,
needs to work. This is the flip chapter, but the 41st chapter is unfortunately
but the 41st chapter is unfortunately Tyrion's. We're going to end on kind of
Tyrion's. We're going to end on kind of a eh note, but we see that we pick up
a eh note, but we see that we pick up with Tyrion and Penny back still on this
with Tyrion and Penny back still on this ship and they're doing this joust thing.
ship and they're doing this joust thing. I guess it shows again Tyrion has put
I guess it shows again Tyrion has put his pride aside and things like that.
his pride aside and things like that. He's I guess growing as a character. Um
He's I guess growing as a character. Um even though it's still kind of eh, but
even though it's still kind of eh, but we see that they've lost the wind,
we see that they've lost the wind, right? That it's actually being very
right? That it's actually being very difficult to move their ship and things
difficult to move their ship and things like that. and they think that they've
like that. and they think that they've won the day as they realize, you know,
won the day as they realize, you know, the wind is picking up, but instead it's
the wind is picking up, but instead it's a storm. And and Makoro gives a very
a storm. And and Makoro gives a very cryptic line like this is why the ship
cryptic line like this is why the ship will not reach its destination is
will not reach its destination is because of this storm. And so it really
because of this storm. And so it really is interesting because Moro is like the
is interesting because Moro is like the only thing interesting really in my
only thing interesting really in my opinion of the three chapters that we've
opinion of the three chapters that we've talked about in today's video. And so he
talked about in today's video. And so he kind of already knows what his fate
kind of already knows what his fate seems like it's going to be. One of the
seems like it's going to be. One of the things that Melisandre always sees first
things that Melisandre always sees first in her visions that she's basically
in her visions that she's basically trained herself to do is to look for
trained herself to do is to look for things that threaten herself. And so
things that threaten herself. And so it's interesting because I think Mcquaro
it's interesting because I think Mcquaro already realizes what his fate is to be
already realizes what his fate is to be with Victarion. But either way, they
with Victarion. But either way, they have this storm and in the middle of the
have this storm and in the middle of the storm, Penny and Tyrion kiss, but it's
storm, Penny and Tyrion kiss, but it's not like a romantic kiss or that's what
not like a romantic kiss or that's what they both say anyway.
they both say anyway. It's like, okay,
It's like, okay, you know, I don't really buy this
you know, I don't really buy this relationship that much and I don't
relationship that much and I don't really care about it that much, but
really care about it that much, but okay. But eventually, their boat is
okay. But eventually, their boat is basically destroyed. Um, it's damaged
basically destroyed. Um, it's damaged beyond repairs. They are basically
beyond repairs. They are basically sitting ducks until they either starve
sitting ducks until they either starve out or die, more or less. And so for 19
out or die, more or less. And so for 19 days, they wait. And during this time,
days, they wait. And during this time, actually during the storm, I should say,
actually during the storm, I should say, some of the men were basically thrown
some of the men were basically thrown overboard. Mcquaro being one of those
overboard. Mcquaro being one of those people. They are presumed dead by Tyrion
people. They are presumed dead by Tyrion and us, the audience. But that is not
and us, the audience. But that is not the case as we'll know a little later
the case as we'll know a little later on. But they eventually see a boat and
on. But they eventually see a boat and this seems like a good thing, right?
this seems like a good thing, right? They can maybe be picked up from being
They can maybe be picked up from being stranded, but Jorah sourly notes it is a
stranded, but Jorah sourly notes it is a slave ship. So yeah, I I think we end
slave ship. So yeah, I I think we end part three in kind of a more of a
part three in kind of a more of a whimper um than a big moment like we did
whimper um than a big moment like we did with I'd say part two,
with I'd say part two, but that's just the case. Uh Tyrion and
but that's just the case. Uh Tyrion and Tyrion is kind of down there with like
Tyrion is kind of down there with like Quentyn right now for me where anytime I
Quentyn right now for me where anytime I see a Quentyn or a Tyrion chapter, I
see a Quentyn or a Tyrion chapter, I know it's not really going to be a good
know it's not really going to be a good one. Um and that's just the case, right?
one. Um and that's just the case, right? It's unfortunate, but that's the
It's unfortunate, but that's the problems of A Dance with Dragons. Dance
problems of A Dance with Dragons. Dance Dragons has super huge highs like the
Dragons has super huge highs like the Davos chapter or the Theon chapters or
Davos chapter or the Theon chapters or some of Jon and Daenerys's chapters, but
some of Jon and Daenerys's chapters, but then you have the really big lows and
then you have the really big lows and that's kind of this chapter, the
that's kind of this chapter, the Tyrion's arc, Quentyn's arc, you know,
Tyrion's arc, Quentyn's arc, you know, stuff like that. But still, in this part
stuff like that. But still, in this part of the retrospective, this is where I
of the retrospective, this is where I think dance really starts to hit its
think dance really starts to hit its peaks. Now, we did see some really great
peaks. Now, we did see some really great chapters early on in Dance, don't get me
chapters early on in Dance, don't get me wrong, but a lot of the POVs were kind
wrong, but a lot of the POVs were kind of building towards things and we were
of building towards things and we were still kind of getting the ball rolling.
still kind of getting the ball rolling. This is where we're entering kind of the
This is where we're entering kind of the back, I would say, two-fifths of the
back, I would say, two-fifths of the book. There are some really good
book. There are some really good chapters where we start seeing more
chapters where we start seeing more chapters from characters in Feast for
chapters from characters in Feast for Crows, getting their some of getting
Crows, getting their some of getting some of their revelations and
some of their revelations and resolutions. Uh, specifically one we're
resolutions. Uh, specifically one we're going to talk about in this uh, video
going to talk about in this uh, video which I find very interesting and I'm
which I find very interesting and I'm really glad we got more of is Arya. I
really glad we got more of is Arya. I think Arya has her best chapters in this
think Arya has her best chapters in this book, not even in Feast for Crows, which
book, not even in Feast for Crows, which is kind of insane. But yeah, let's not
is kind of insane. But yeah, let's not waste any time. If you did want to
waste any time. If you did want to listen to these on Spotify, I do usually
listen to these on Spotify, I do usually put my longer videos on Spotify. So
put my longer videos on Spotify. So check that out if you want to listen to
check that out if you want to listen to these kind of on the road, not on the
these kind of on the road, not on the YouTube platform. I will have that in
YouTube platform. I will have that in the description as well. So look for
the description as well. So look for that. But let's start off right away
that. But let's start off right away with chapter 42, Theon 5. And what can I
with chapter 42, Theon 5. And what can I say about Theon? I feel like I say this
say about Theon? I feel like I say this every time a Theon chapter is brought
every time a Theon chapter is brought up. I did I think that almost any
up. I did I think that almost any chapter by Theon could be somebody's
chapter by Theon could be somebody's favorite Theon chapter of the book
favorite Theon chapter of the book because they're all that good. Now,
because they're all that good. Now, personally, I like the Theon chapters
personally, I like the Theon chapters almost as they go because each one
almost as they go because each one builds upon the last, and you have just
builds upon the last, and you have just more tension and more of Theon or Reek
more tension and more of Theon or Reek trying to find the version of himself
trying to find the version of himself that is Theon and trying to become a
that is Theon and trying to become a better person and man and overcoming the
better person and man and overcoming the psychological damage and physical damage
psychological damage and physical damage done to him. I just think like this
done to him. I just think like this chapter, the next chapter, the chapter
chapter, the next chapter, the chapter after are just fantastic. And so, what
after are just fantastic. And so, what do we get in Theon 5? It's Theon after
do we get in Theon 5? It's Theon after the kind of the dreaded wedding chapter
the kind of the dreaded wedding chapter between Ramsay and Jane Pool or fake
between Ramsay and Jane Pool or fake Arya. And we see that Roose is kind of
Arya. And we see that Roose is kind of declaring the snows have come to wipe
declaring the snows have come to wipe away Stannis. And this is before we
away Stannis. And this is before we actually get Asha's uh first like
actually get Asha's uh first like chapter with Stannis's march to
chapter with Stannis's march to Winterfell. So, this is kind of a re
Winterfell. So, this is kind of a re revelation to us as a as an audience to
revelation to us as a as an audience to kind of prelude what we're going to see
kind of prelude what we're going to see with Asha in the next chapter. But it's
with Asha in the next chapter. But it's interesting because you see that there's
interesting because you see that there's this sense of security, right, that it
this sense of security, right, that it seems like Roose's camp has. But slowly
seems like Roose's camp has. But slowly as this chapter goes on, that seems to
as this chapter goes on, that seems to kind of slowly dissipate to where even
kind of slowly dissipate to where even they, the side that, you know, is on the
they, the side that, you know, is on the defensive. They're in Winterfell. The
defensive. They're in Winterfell. The atmosphere is filled with tension. Theon
atmosphere is filled with tension. Theon himself gets approached by some
himself gets approached by some interesting figures in this chapter. One
interesting figures in this chapter. One of them, one of them being one of
of them, one of them being one of Mance's spear wives, wanting to know how
Mance's spear wives, wanting to know how he got into Winterfell so easily, which
he got into Winterfell so easily, which we know will have repercussions later on
we know will have repercussions later on in the book. But for now, Theon kind of
in the book. But for now, Theon kind of shrugs it off. Theon himself prefers to
shrugs it off. Theon himself prefers to kind of wander the castles. He's kind of
kind of wander the castles. He's kind of this ghost in Winterfell. He's this
this ghost in Winterfell. He's this person reminiscing about his youth and
person reminiscing about his youth and all of the decisions he's made that's
all of the decisions he's made that's now led to Winterfell being in the state
now led to Winterfell being in the state that it's in right now. And so it's so
that it's in right now. And so it's so great because not only are we forwarding
great because not only are we forwarding the plot and the northern plot, which is
the plot and the northern plot, which is by far the best plot of the book, it's
by far the best plot of the book, it's forwarding Theon's growth, reminding him
forwarding Theon's growth, reminding him who he needs to be. And we get a lot of
who he needs to be. And we get a lot of him thinking about, you know, his
him thinking about, you know, his psychological damage with Ramsay because
psychological damage with Ramsay because it's brought to the front with how he
it's brought to the front with how he thinks about Jane, right? Jane is going
thinks about Jane, right? Jane is going through the same things very similar to
through the same things very similar to what Theon was going through and he
what Theon was going through and he sympathizes with her. He even thinks
sympathizes with her. He even thinks about how he had planned or at least
about how he had planned or at least thought of trying to escape. And that's
thought of trying to escape. And that's interesting as well because he's
interesting as well because he's actually going to do that by the end of
actually going to do that by the end of this book. But it shows that Theon
this book. But it shows that Theon slowly through each chapter is becoming
slowly through each chapter is becoming more and more part of maybe this new
more and more part of maybe this new version of himself. I won't say the old
version of himself. I won't say the old version because the old version of Theon
version because the old version of Theon this isn't that, right? He's becoming a
this isn't that, right? He's becoming a better version of himself and trying to
better version of himself and trying to atone for some of the things that he
atone for some of the things that he did. He even pleads with the old gods.
did. He even pleads with the old gods. something that you something that Theon
something that you something that Theon in his younger years never would have
in his younger years never would have done. I just did Theon one a Clash of
done. I just did Theon one a Clash of Kings Theon's first POV in the entire
Kings Theon's first POV in the entire story. And even when he talks to his
story. And even when he talks to his uncle Aeron, he isn't somebody that
uncle Aeron, he isn't somebody that prays to any gods, not even the drown
prays to any gods, not even the drown god either of the Ironborn. And so when
god either of the Ironborn. And so when you get to this point of the story and
you get to this point of the story and you see that he's been so broken that
you see that he's been so broken that he's turning to the old gods of the
he's turning to the old gods of the Starks, it has a really interesting
Starks, it has a really interesting revelation because when we get to the
revelation because when we get to the Barbrey Dustin part of this chapter, you
Barbrey Dustin part of this chapter, you kind of understand why he almost goes to
kind of understand why he almost goes to the old gods. And you also would think
the old gods. And you also would think that the drown gods have never done
that the drown gods have never done anything for Theon. If anything, him
anything for Theon. If anything, him being an Ironborn has only worked
being an Ironborn has only worked against him and the decisions that he's
against him and the decisions that he's had to make to try and you be try and
had to make to try and you be try and prove himself to his father. And so we,
prove himself to his father. And so we, as we see Theon kind of wandering his
as we see Theon kind of wandering his way back, he is actually run into by
way back, he is actually run into by Lady Dustin, who also asks something of
Lady Dustin, who also asks something of him, reminding him of his past. Whereas
him, reminding him of his past. Whereas the Spearwise had asked how he'd taken
the Spearwise had asked how he'd taken Winterfell. Lady Dustin only wants to
Winterfell. Lady Dustin only wants to look at the crypts, which is interesting
look at the crypts, which is interesting considering the past, right? Theon never
considering the past, right? Theon never thought to look to the crypts for
thought to look to the crypts for Brandon Rickon, but that's where they
Brandon Rickon, but that's where they were the whole time. And there's even
were the whole time. And there's even these subtle nods that we see swords
these subtle nods that we see swords missing, especially Brandon's. And it's
missing, especially Brandon's. And it's interesting because you take a pairing
interesting because you take a pairing of Lady Dustin and Theon and they're
of Lady Dustin and Theon and they're quite similar characters in a lot of
quite similar characters in a lot of ways. Both of them kind of even stating
ways. Both of them kind of even stating to each other that they both wanted to
to each other that they both wanted to be Starks, right? And that's that great
be Starks, right? And that's that great revelation where you understand Theon
revelation where you understand Theon where he's very similar to John. I
where he's very similar to John. I talked about this in his first chapter
talked about this in his first chapter as well is that Theon and John share a
as well is that Theon and John share a lot of similarities even though they
lot of similarities even though they have very different personality traits.
have very different personality traits. And so when you have all this happening
And so when you have all this happening and especially in the crypts with this
and especially in the crypts with this eerie vibe hanging over them and you
eerie vibe hanging over them and you even get Lady Dustin's background and
even get Lady Dustin's background and her bitterly talking about, you know,
her bitterly talking about, you know, her past, I just love everything that we
her past, I just love everything that we get in this chapter. It's one of my
get in this chapter. It's one of my favorites of the book. I It's not going
favorites of the book. I It's not going to be, you know, like my favorite or
to be, you know, like my favorite or anything. There's going to be better
anything. There's going to be better chapters in this book overall. I do have
chapters in this book overall. I do have this chapter within like my top 20 of
this chapter within like my top 20 of the book. I've already ranked all of the
the book. I've already ranked all of the chapters and I've kind of gotten through
chapters and I've kind of gotten through most of my notes already, but I do think
most of my notes already, but I do think really strong chapter from Theon. And
really strong chapter from Theon. And again, I pretty much say this for every
again, I pretty much say this for every Theon chapter. I could definitely
Theon chapter. I could definitely understand if this is your favorite
understand if this is your favorite chapter, but number 43. And I got to
chapter, but number 43. And I got to say, George was cooking when he started,
say, George was cooking when he started, you know, giving us these chapters like
you know, giving us these chapters like chapter 42, which is Theon 5, 43 being
chapter 42, which is Theon 5, 43 being Asha 2, and even when we get to John um
Asha 2, and even when we get to John um 9, which is chapter 45, and even chapter
9, which is chapter 45, and even chapter 46, which is Arya 1. A really good
46, which is Arya 1. A really good string of chapters, but Arya 2 is our
string of chapters, but Arya 2 is our first chapter with her, with Stannis.
first chapter with her, with Stannis. And so, we see how this long journey is
And so, we see how this long journey is going to be from going from Deepwood M
going to be from going from Deepwood M to Winterfell. It's not really even that
to Winterfell. It's not really even that long. It's only a 15 days journey is
long. It's only a 15 days journey is what they say when they leave, but we
what they say when they leave, but we know that's not going to go well, right?
know that's not going to go well, right? We hear it from Russ's POV that the
We hear it from Russ's POV that the snows are going to start. So, this is
snows are going to start. So, this is kind of going a little bit in the past
kind of going a little bit in the past and then catching up to where we're
and then catching up to where we're going to be at with Theon's uh plotline
going to be at with Theon's uh plotline for the most part. But the way I
for the most part. But the way I described this chapter in my notes was
described this chapter in my notes was it kind of feels like if you guys have
it kind of feels like if you guys have ever played the Oregon Trail like game
ever played the Oregon Trail like game that you can play on the web browser or
that you can play on the web browser or even know anything about the Oregon
even know anything about the Oregon Trail, it feels like that but gone very
Trail, it feels like that but gone very wrong. Right? The temperature is going
wrong. Right? The temperature is going against you. Men are dying. Your horses
against you. Men are dying. Your horses are dying. Everything is going wrong.
are dying. Everything is going wrong. And the start of the journey starts, you
And the start of the journey starts, you know, pretty fine. It has Asha being
know, pretty fine. It has Asha being chained in a baggage train with Al with
chained in a baggage train with Al with Alisan Mormont to give her company,
Alisan Mormont to give her company, which not great company. You can
which not great company. You can understand why the two wouldn't like
understand why the two wouldn't like each other. Um Bear Island being kind of
each other. Um Bear Island being kind of an island nation on the west side of the
an island nation on the west side of the north. The Ironborn would probably raid
north. The Ironborn would probably raid them. You can see that there be
them. You can see that there be definitely divides between the two
definitely divides between the two households. But we also see that she
households. But we also see that she finds kind of a good companion, Justin
finds kind of a good companion, Justin Massie, or at least somebody that's easy
Massie, or at least somebody that's easy to talk to and entertaining to, even
to talk to and entertaining to, even though Justin Massie probably isn't
though Justin Massie probably isn't talking to her for the right reasons
talking to her for the right reasons given her claim and all those things,
given her claim and all those things, but she kind of just endures it. And I
but she kind of just endures it. And I personally love Asha. I like her
personally love Asha. I like her personality. I love her POVs. It really
personality. I love her POVs. It really helps that you put one of my favorite
helps that you put one of my favorite POVs going into the next book in
POVs going into the next book in probably my favorite storyline of this
probably my favorite storyline of this book. It just creates this beautiful
book. It just creates this beautiful storyline that goes horribly wrong for
storyline that goes horribly wrong for Stannis because as the journey starts to
Stannis because as the journey starts to turn, the northern storms begin and
turn, the northern storms begin and these men of the south, they are
these men of the south, they are definitely not prepared for it. Asha
definitely not prepared for it. Asha herself is even brought before Stannis,
herself is even brought before Stannis, but she messes up talking to Stannis as
but she messes up talking to Stannis as she mentions Robert because she's like,
she mentions Robert because she's like, "Well, we could turn foes into friends."
"Well, we could turn foes into friends." And that whole idea which which Robert
And that whole idea which which Robert was great at, Stannis has never been
was great at, Stannis has never been good at it. Basically ends her meeting
good at it. Basically ends her meeting with Stannis and it doesn't go
with Stannis and it doesn't go particularly well. But they continue for
particularly well. But they continue for 30 days. Stannis not allowing them to
30 days. Stannis not allowing them to stop until they reach a Coffter's
stop until they reach a Coffter's village. Asha realizes the march has
village. Asha realizes the march has basically destroyed them. They've lost
basically destroyed them. They've lost all of their mounts. Basically, they're
all of their mounts. Basically, they're running low on food. Again, if you're
running low on food. Again, if you're thinking you're going to have a 15-day
thinking you're going to have a 15-day march and then it ends up being 30 days
march and then it ends up being 30 days and you can't really forage all that
and you can't really forage all that much to get extra food to resupply
much to get extra food to resupply yourselves, it's not going to go
yourselves, it's not going to go particularly well. Morale is low,
particularly well. Morale is low, supplies are low, and they themselves
supplies are low, and they themselves seem to basically be getting thinned and
seem to basically be getting thinned and aged. Asha notes that Sannis looks like
aged. Asha notes that Sannis looks like a hollow version of himself as he seems
a hollow version of himself as he seems thinner and age like I talked about. But
thinner and age like I talked about. But overall, the quality of this Asha
overall, the quality of this Asha chapter is just fantastic. And I I
chapter is just fantastic. And I I talked about this and this is kind of my
talked about this and this is kind of my frustration with Dance is if all of the
frustration with Dance is if all of the plot lines in the book had the same
plot lines in the book had the same quality that the northern plot does,
quality that the northern plot does, this would probably be the best book of
this would probably be the best book of the entire series. But unfortunately,
the entire series. But unfortunately, you have to balance the North plot line
you have to balance the North plot line with things like the Essos plot lines.
with things like the Essos plot lines. And that's kind of where I feel like
And that's kind of where I feel like this book stuck in the mud. But that'll
this book stuck in the mud. But that'll get us to chapter 44. And mentioning
get us to chapter 44. And mentioning Essos, we have Danny 7, chapter number
Essos, we have Danny 7, chapter number 44. Now, this is a weird chapter to me
44. Now, this is a weird chapter to me because I don't particularly rate it
because I don't particularly rate it that high in terms of Danny's chapters,
that high in terms of Danny's chapters, but I did note I'm happy that this
but I did note I'm happy that this particular chapter was a Dany chapter
particular chapter was a Dany chapter because this chapter, the thing that
because this chapter, the thing that it's the most known for, the thing that
it's the most known for, the thing that has the most amount of like you're going
has the most amount of like you're going to remember it is going to be this is
to remember it is going to be this is when Quentyn and Daenerys meet. Now, I
when Quentyn and Daenerys meet. Now, I love that this interaction comes from
love that this interaction comes from Daenerys. Personally, I hate Quentyn. I
Daenerys. Personally, I hate Quentyn. I think he is just a bad POV. I would go
think he is just a bad POV. I would go as far as saying he's probably the worst
as far as saying he's probably the worst POV of the entire series given that he
POV of the entire series given that he has multiple chapters and they're all
has multiple chapters and they're all pretty bad in my opinion outside of
pretty bad in my opinion outside of maybe his last one. I think his last
maybe his last one. I think his last chapter where you know he dies in. Yes,
chapter where you know he dies in. Yes, he he does basically die in that
he he does basically die in that chapter. This is only one of note in my
chapter. This is only one of note in my opinion. But before we get to the
opinion. But before we get to the Quentyn stuff, we do see some stuff
Quentyn stuff, we do see some stuff other stuff before then. We see her a
other stuff before then. We see her a bed with Daario as she is having doubts
bed with Daario as she is having doubts about her wedding as she's kind of
about her wedding as she's kind of feeling boxed in as they are besieged
feeling boxed in as they are besieged and Daario tells her to marry him even
and Daario tells her to marry him even though he knows she cannot. Out of all
though he knows she cannot. Out of all the stuff we get with Daario and
the stuff we get with Daario and Daenerys in this book, I do like this
Daenerys in this book, I do like this interaction between the two because it
interaction between the two because it does show Daenerys not being able to get
does show Daenerys not being able to get the things that she wants as a queen,
the things that she wants as a queen, having to put her people first, and some
having to put her people first, and some of the more interesting parts of
of the more interesting parts of Daenerys's actual plotline. And we don't
Daenerys's actual plotline. And we don't get a ton of that in this because it's
get a ton of that in this because it's almost completely filled with just the
almost completely filled with just the romantic interests of Daenerys. And
romantic interests of Daenerys. And unfortunately, I don't really like a lot
unfortunately, I don't really like a lot of the romance stuff, whether it's with
of the romance stuff, whether it's with his Dar, whether it's with Daario,
his Dar, whether it's with Daario, whether it's with Quentin, whether it's
whether it's with Quentin, whether it's with, you know, whoever. I find that to
with, you know, whoever. I find that to be the weaker stuff in Daenerys's
be the weaker stuff in Daenerys's plotline in this book. But I will say um
plotline in this book. But I will say um when we do get to when Daario introduced
when we do get to when Daario introduced the recruits or and aka uh Quentyn's
the recruits or and aka uh Quentyn's party to Dany,
party to Dany, I find this interaction to be so funny
I find this interaction to be so funny because it's Daenerys like looking at
because it's Daenerys like looking at this prince of Dorne and just going hm
this prince of Dorne and just going hm not attractive. She compares him to a
not attractive. She compares him to a frog because that's what he's kind of
frog because that's what he's kind of named. And she recalls a story, right,
named. And she recalls a story, right, where the frog will turn into a great
where the frog will turn into a great prince or, you know, it's kind of this
prince or, you know, it's kind of this twist on basically our own story where
twist on basically our own story where where the frog would turn into a
where the frog would turn into a princess and all that stuff. And yeah,
princess and all that stuff. And yeah, she's basically saying, Quentyn, you're
ugly. Why don't you turn good-looking? And it's like, man, Daenerys, that's
And it's like, man, Daenerys, that's kind of some wild stuff in there. But
kind of some wild stuff in there. But honestly, because of how bad Quentyn is
honestly, because of how bad Quentyn is in this book, I completely love Daenerys
in this book, I completely love Daenerys uh in this moment. And I think it's just
uh in this moment. And I think it's just so funny because, you know, you look at
so funny because, you know, you look at Quentyn and I think he's not the best
Quentyn and I think he's not the best written character. I think he's a
written character. I think he's a character that has a lot of plot
character that has a lot of plot conveniences. And you just have Quentyn
conveniences. And you just have Quentyn rocking up like, yeah, you know, we're
rocking up like, yeah, you know, we're supposed to marry because of this
supposed to marry because of this contract, which does not involve me or
contract, which does not involve me or you in it. Um, but it is a major like
you in it. Um, but it is a major like reveal, right? The fact that we get this
reveal, right? The fact that we get this idea that there was this marriage
idea that there was this marriage contract that Oberin and the sea lord of
contract that Oberin and the sea lord of Braavos looked over that was a marriage
Braavos looked over that was a marriage pact basically between Aron and Viseris.
pact basically between Aron and Viseris. It is interesting, right? That would
It is interesting, right? That would seem to kind of confirm that the red
seem to kind of confirm that the red door was in Braavos and was probably the
door was in Braavos and was probably the sea lord of Braavos's, you know, house.
sea lord of Braavos's, you know, house. Now, people still debate that to this
Now, people still debate that to this day. I feel like to me this is kind of
day. I feel like to me this is kind of the proof you need, but
the proof you need, but I don't know. Some people will disagree
I don't know. Some people will disagree with that, but I think it's a either
with that, but I think it's a either way. It's still a massive reveal um for
way. It's still a massive reveal um for Daenerys specifically, but it's just
Daenerys specifically, but it's just Daenerys going, "Okay, but Quentyn, you
Daenerys going, "Okay, but Quentyn, you don't have much to offer here. There's
don't have much to offer here. There's no swords that can help benefit me here
no swords that can help benefit me here as well. I'm already going to be getting
as well. I'm already going to be getting married to Hisdar. I already have, not
married to Hisdar. I already have, not only do I already have somebody I'm
only do I already have somebody I'm going to marry, I already have somebody
going to marry, I already have somebody that I'm sleeping with. So, like Quentyn
that I'm sleeping with. So, like Quentyn offers literally no value to Daenerys
offers literally no value to Daenerys right now at all. Like at all. And I
right now at all. Like at all. And I just think it's so funny the way
just think it's so funny the way Daenerys puts Quentyn down. Um, you
Daenerys puts Quentyn down. Um, you know, she tries to do it in a nice way,
know, she tries to do it in a nice way, but you know, us knowing her thoughts is
but you know, us knowing her thoughts is what makes this interaction hilarious to
what makes this interaction hilarious to me. Uh, if we would have gotten
me. Uh, if we would have gotten Quentyn's side of this, it would not
Quentyn's side of this, it would not have been as interesting in my opinion.
have been as interesting in my opinion. But like to me, this is why I really
But like to me, this is why I really don't think that we needed Quentyn as a
don't think that we needed Quentyn as a POV because Quentyn kind of recounts
POV because Quentyn kind of recounts everything that they did to get here to
everything that they did to get here to Daenerys like Daario here. So it's like
Daenerys like Daario here. So it's like why did we need those chapters to begin
why did we need those chapters to begin with? And also all it's leading up to is
with? And also all it's leading up to is okay, Daenerys is going to deny him.
okay, Daenerys is going to deny him. He's going to do something foolish and
He's going to do something foolish and die. So, the the only real reason I can
die. So, the the only real reason I can see why we needed Quentyn as a POV was
see why we needed Quentyn as a POV was because George wanted to make him a
because George wanted to make him a character that we cared about when he
character that we cared about when he died, and it's like didn't care about
died, and it's like didn't care about him in the beginning, so I'm not going
him in the beginning, so I'm not going to care about him when he dies. So,
to care about him when he dies. So, I don't know. But still, I I do think
I don't know. But still, I I do think that this chapter is interesting because
that this chapter is interesting because it also does push the idea of Quaith's
it also does push the idea of Quaith's prophecy. Like, Daenerys believes it
prophecy. Like, Daenerys believes it even more now because she was right um
even more now because she was right um about the son's son coming, more or
about the son's son coming, more or less. And so I do find that it's a
less. And so I do find that it's a enjoyable chapter, but it's not one of
enjoyable chapter, but it's not one of the better Daenerys chapters whatsoever.
the better Daenerys chapters whatsoever. It lacks, I think, the really
It lacks, I think, the really interesting parts of Daenerys and how
interesting parts of Daenerys and how she has to be a queen and ruling the
she has to be a queen and ruling the decisions she has to make. And a lot of
decisions she has to make. And a lot of the things that I find enjoyable about
the things that I find enjoyable about Daenerys's arc are just not present
Daenerys's arc are just not present here. It's kind of dealing once again
here. It's kind of dealing once again with the romance side of Daenerys's arc,
with the romance side of Daenerys's arc, which in my opinion is already bloated
which in my opinion is already bloated and too full already. Um, especially
and too full already. Um, especially when you think about Victarion kind of
when you think about Victarion kind of entering into this Daenerys lovers arena
entering into this Daenerys lovers arena as well. Um, I just don't really enjoy
as well. Um, I just don't really enjoy the overcrowded romance plot lines, but
the overcrowded romance plot lines, but I don't think it's a terrible chapter by
I don't think it's a terrible chapter by any means. That leads us to number 45,
any means. That leads us to number 45, John 9. So, in the last video, I I think
John 9. So, in the last video, I I think John was very underwhelming. I think a
John was very underwhelming. I think a lot of chapters leading up to the kind
lot of chapters leading up to the kind of the endgame for John, they are just
of the endgame for John, they are just building block chapters. They're very
building block chapters. They're very middle of the the road chapters, but
middle of the the road chapters, but this is where I think Jon starts to
this is where I think Jon starts to really start to get good um again,
really start to get good um again, right? Because I think Jon is very good
right? Because I think Jon is very good at the beginning. I think he's very good
at the beginning. I think he's very good at the end. I think in the middle is
at the end. I think in the middle is kind of where he takes a bit of a
kind of where he takes a bit of a slowdown as we're rebuilding into the
slowdown as we're rebuilding into the other parts of of his arc. And I really
other parts of of his arc. And I really like what we get to see here, right?
like what we get to see here, right? Because we see the queen's party coming
Because we see the queen's party coming to Castle Black before they go on to the
to Castle Black before they go on to the Knights fort. We see the tensions right
Knights fort. We see the tensions right off the bat between the two sides
off the bat between the two sides because Jon's doing a lot of things that
because Jon's doing a lot of things that maybe the queen wouldn't like. There's
maybe the queen wouldn't like. There's just that built-in tension there, right,
just that built-in tension there, right, with people in the queen's men who also
with people in the queen's men who also are not the most friendly to Jon and are
are not the most friendly to Jon and are even antagonistic like Axel Florent is
even antagonistic like Axel Florent is kind of towards the end of this chapter.
kind of towards the end of this chapter. It's just building up the lack of
It's just building up the lack of support Jon has, right? not only is he
support Jon has, right? not only is he losing the support of the Nights Watch,
losing the support of the Nights Watch, he also doesn't really have the support
he also doesn't really have the support of Stannis's, I guess, men, even though
of Stannis's, I guess, men, even though it's really Melisandre's men. You see
it's really Melisandre's men. You see all that playing out. And so, I find
all that playing out. And so, I find that to be really fascinating. But the
that to be really fascinating. But the other part of this that is even more
other part of this that is even more interesting is a a member from the Iron
interesting is a a member from the Iron Bank actually ends up arriving here as
Bank actually ends up arriving here as well, which is great because it kind of
well, which is great because it kind of fulfills Cersei's arc, right, in Feast
fulfills Cersei's arc, right, in Feast for Crows where she's not willing to pay
for Crows where she's not willing to pay back the Iron Bank or any of those
back the Iron Bank or any of those things. She very much dismisses them.
things. She very much dismisses them. And so the Iron Bank are going to try
And so the Iron Bank are going to try and place their bets on Stannis. But Jon
and place their bets on Stannis. But Jon takes the opportunity to try and get
takes the opportunity to try and get loans, use their ships for Hard Home.
loans, use their ships for Hard Home. And it's great because you understand we
And it's great because you understand we we as an audience understand what Jon's
we as an audience understand what Jon's doing because we're in his head, right?
doing because we're in his head, right? He's trying to find a way that they're
He's trying to find a way that they're going to have enough food to survive
going to have enough food to survive winter. And so how do you do that,
winter. And so how do you do that, right? You're going to have to take
right? You're going to have to take loans. You're going to have to try and
loans. You're going to have to try and trade with other people and getting food
trade with other people and getting food and all those things.
and all those things. But the problem is going to be you're
But the problem is going to be you're going to take out loans that the nights
going to take out loans that the nights watches isn't going to be able to pay
watches isn't going to be able to pay back. Um they don't earn a lot of money.
back. Um they don't earn a lot of money. They don't have resources that they can
They don't have resources that they can give away for money. It's very much
give away for money. It's very much placing the watch in a very very
placing the watch in a very very difficult position because yes, if he
difficult position because yes, if he doesn't pay the loans, many of them are
doesn't pay the loans, many of them are going to die in the winter. But if he
going to die in the winter. But if he does take these loans afterwards,
does take these loans afterwards, they're going to be in deep, deep debt.
they're going to be in deep, deep debt. And who knows what the Iron Bank's going
And who knows what the Iron Bank's going to do to get their money back. So you
to do to get their money back. So you have this issue that you can see is kind
have this issue that you can see is kind of a lose-lose situation in my opinion,
of a lose-lose situation in my opinion, but John is right. Like this at least
but John is right. Like this at least buys them time to get through winter.
buys them time to get through winter. But he doesn't explain any of this to
But he doesn't explain any of this to anyone. He doesn't take any counsel for
anyone. He doesn't take any counsel for any from anyone. See what maybe see what
any from anyone. See what maybe see what maybe other people think about his
maybe other people think about his decision and what they should do with
decision and what they should do with the Iron Bank. Jon acts completely alone
the Iron Bank. Jon acts completely alone like he's done all throughout this book.
like he's done all throughout this book. He completely isolates himself because
He completely isolates himself because he's not willing to, you know, have
he's not willing to, you know, have counsel with other people and see
counsel with other people and see differing viewpoints and be able to
differing viewpoints and be able to communicate why he believes those things
communicate why he believes those things maybe aren't the correct uh way of doing
maybe aren't the correct uh way of doing things. And so I love this channel
things. And so I love this channel because it exemplifies all those things
because it exemplifies all those things because now that you know if you're
because now that you know if you're somebody else, if you're in the Night's
somebody else, if you're in the Night's Watch and you're sitting here going this
Watch and you're sitting here going this is all you're hearing is that John took
is all you're hearing is that John took major loans from the Iron Bank. You're
major loans from the Iron Bank. You're thinking what what is he doing? You
thinking what what is he doing? You don't understand his rationale because
don't understand his rationale because he doesn't explain it to anybody. He
he doesn't explain it to anybody. He keeps it to himself. And those are the
keeps it to himself. And those are the things that's going to get people to
things that's going to get people to turn on him. Even though these are
turn on him. Even though these are people that maybe loved him or wanted
people that maybe loved him or wanted him to be the Lord Commander, it's all
him to be the Lord Commander, it's all these different things that you have
these different things that you have working in tandem. You know, we're going
working in tandem. You know, we're going to see the Wild Link plot really kick
to see the Wild Link plot really kick off, you know, after this chapter
off, you know, after this chapter specifically. You're going to have him
specifically. You're going to have him kind of meddling in northern politics
kind of meddling in northern politics with the carstark situation. You're
with the carstark situation. You're going to have him taking loans. You're
going to have him taking loans. You're going to have him sending away his, you
going to have him sending away his, you know, closest allies and friends. You're
know, closest allies and friends. You're going to have him doing all these
going to have him doing all these different things that just add up. And
different things that just add up. And this is just one of those things that I
this is just one of those things that I find to be very interesting because it
find to be very interesting because it is the Iron Bank and we don't really get
is the Iron Bank and we don't really get to see them all that much. And so
to see them all that much. And so eventually they do settle on terms, but
eventually they do settle on terms, but we do see as the tension begins to go up
we do see as the tension begins to go up again because Jon talks with Axel
again because Jon talks with Axel Florent about Val, which they both know
Florent about Val, which they both know he doesn't have. And later he is woken
he doesn't have. And later he is woken up to find a girl on a dying horse has
up to find a girl on a dying horse has arrived. And Jon thinks about Arya, what
arrived. And Jon thinks about Arya, what he can do with her. Maybe sending her to
he can do with her. Maybe sending her to Essos to be, you know, harbored by
Essos to be, you know, harbored by somebody over there, sending him back
somebody over there, sending him back with the Iron Bank, all of those things
with the Iron Bank, all of those things until he realizes it isn't Arya Stark at
until he realizes it isn't Arya Stark at all. And he seems to recognize the girl,
all. And he seems to recognize the girl, but he can't place it at first. But when
but he can't place it at first. But when we get the reveal that is Alice Karst
we get the reveal that is Alice Karst Stark, it changes everything because on
Stark, it changes everything because on one hand we find out that Stannis is
one hand we find out that Stannis is being played as a fool by the Kar Starks
being played as a fool by the Kar Starks and two we get to see this kind of
and two we get to see this kind of interesting relationship between Jon and
interesting relationship between Jon and Alice because the two have very good
Alice because the two have very good chemistry. The two seem like if things
chemistry. The two seem like if things had gone differently, maybe they would
had gone differently, maybe they would have been the ones, you know, getting
have been the ones, you know, getting getting married, right? The two have
getting married, right? The two have really good banter and just not only
really good banter and just not only just this chapter, but the next chapter,
just this chapter, but the next chapter, it's interesting because Jon has such
it's interesting because Jon has such great relationships in my opinion with
great relationships in my opinion with both Alice and Val that it is kind of
both Alice and Val that it is kind of crazy. Jon's definitely got some women
crazy. Jon's definitely got some women that I think like him a lot. But yeah,
that I think like him a lot. But yeah, but it kind of does the next part of it,
but it kind of does the next part of it, right? It kind of does this next, okay,
right? It kind of does this next, okay, now Jon is actually going to get
now Jon is actually going to get involved in some of the northern
involved in some of the northern politics. As much as he wants to say
politics. As much as he wants to say that he's out of those things, he is
that he's out of those things, he is getting involved with it, right? He's
getting involved with it, right? He's getting involved with Stannis more and
getting involved with Stannis more and trying to help him. He's getting more
trying to help him. He's getting more involved with the Carst Stark situation,
involved with the Carst Stark situation, who Alice is eventually going to marry.
who Alice is eventually going to marry. All of that is very crucial in my
All of that is very crucial in my opinion. And I really do think this
opinion. And I really do think this chapter is great because it kind of
chapter is great because it kind of takes it into the last stretch of the
takes it into the last stretch of the book and sets all up and sets up all
book and sets all up and sets up all those things really, really well. That
those things really, really well. That gets us to chapter 46, Arya 1. And so
gets us to chapter 46, Arya 1. And so this chapter, in my opinion, is kind of
this chapter, in my opinion, is kind of the quintessential chapter for when I
the quintessential chapter for when I was younger and my first, you know,
was younger and my first, you know, reread or two uh of the books. I had
reread or two uh of the books. I had Dance Above Feast for Crows. I think if
Dance Above Feast for Crows. I think if you go back to my earliest, you know,
you go back to my earliest, you know, rankings of the books on this channel, I
rankings of the books on this channel, I might say Dance Above Feast. I don't
might say Dance Above Feast. I don't think my opinion on Feast for Crows
think my opinion on Feast for Crows really changed until I did the
really changed until I did the retrospective, and that's when I think I
retrospective, and that's when I think I I changed on that opinion. But this was
I changed on that opinion. But this was a chapter where it kind of this and the
a chapter where it kind of this and the next Arya chapter really complete Arya's
next Arya chapter really complete Arya's kind of journey from both Feast for
kind of journey from both Feast for Crows and Dance. And this is kind of why
Crows and Dance. And this is kind of why I think Feast for Crows at times, it
I think Feast for Crows at times, it gets kind of almost outdone by Dance
gets kind of almost outdone by Dance because Dance gets a lot of the
because Dance gets a lot of the conclusions to those characters that
conclusions to those characters that should have probably been in Feast for
should have probably been in Feast for Crows. Because George is trying to keep
Crows. Because George is trying to keep the timeline somewhat coherent because
the timeline somewhat coherent because you have the POVs of one book and the PO
you have the POVs of one book and the PO POVs of another book. You have
POVs of another book. You have situations like this where you only see
situations like this where you only see maybe one Arya one or two Arya chapters
maybe one Arya one or two Arya chapters or you know one or two Cersei chapters
or you know one or two Cersei chapters or things like that. But I really love
or things like that. But I really love this Arya chapter. I do think both of
this Arya chapter. I do think both of her chapters in this book are better
her chapters in this book are better than all three of her chapters in Feast
than all three of her chapters in Feast for Crows. But we see when we catch up
for Crows. But we see when we catch up with her that some time has passed as
with her that some time has passed as she has become blind Beth. She she
she has become blind Beth. She she continues to have dreams of Nimria and
continues to have dreams of Nimria and that's actually that's actually the very
that's actually that's actually the very open to this chapter is her dreaming of
open to this chapter is her dreaming of Nimria and being able to you know see
Nimria and being able to you know see and all those things but we see that
and all those things but we see that because she's become blind she's having
because she's become blind she's having more heightened senses right you know
more heightened senses right you know counting the steps and and touching and
counting the steps and and touching and smelling and hearing all those things
smelling and hearing all those things become very much enhanced and those
become very much enhanced and those things actually also seem to enhance her
things actually also seem to enhance her waring powers and I almost find it
waring powers and I almost find it interesting that maybe the faceless men
interesting that maybe the faceless men know that and they're using that right
know that and they're using that right They they particularly trying to open up
They they particularly trying to open up those abilities cuz they'd be very
those abilities cuz they'd be very useful for a faceless man. It seems like
useful for a faceless man. It seems like they know that which is also interesting
they know that which is also interesting because this chapter really starts to
because this chapter really starts to really delve into the magical elements
really delve into the magical elements of the faceless man. I'd say the next
of the faceless man. I'd say the next chapter way more than this one. But it's
chapter way more than this one. But it's those things that I think were lacking
those things that I think were lacking in a feast for crows from taking Arya to
in a feast for crows from taking Arya to being some of the best chapters of that
being some of the best chapters of that book is because we were still
book is because we were still introducing the phase of spin. We were
introducing the phase of spin. We were still introducing Arya into this plot
still introducing Arya into this plot line. This is where we start to get some
line. This is where we start to get some of those payoffs. And I find that really
of those payoffs. And I find that really interesting. And so basically what the
interesting. And so basically what the Kindly Man and the Facesman are trying
Kindly Man and the Facesman are trying to do is they're trying to mold her,
to do is they're trying to mold her, right? They're trying to get her to get
right? They're trying to get her to get rid of the Arya side of her to not kill
rid of the Arya side of her to not kill like she did with Daron or and
like she did with Daron or and especially in the next next chapter, not
especially in the next next chapter, not questioning who she's being told to
questioning who she's being told to kill, right? It's not about the
kill, right? It's not about the reasoning of why you're killing them.
reasoning of why you're killing them. It's just they need to die. The god of
It's just they need to die. The god of death is requiring his that person's
death is requiring his that person's death. And so that's what they're trying
death. And so that's what they're trying to instill in here. And we do learn a
to instill in here. And we do learn a couple interesting things. You know, as
couple interesting things. You know, as Arya is basically being sent out as
Arya is basically being sent out as blind bath to find new informations, we
blind bath to find new informations, we do find that one of the ships that had
do find that one of the ships that had been carrying wildlings from Hardome was
been carrying wildlings from Hardome was caught by the seaord of Braavos as he
caught by the seaord of Braavos as he was as they were trying to sell the
was as they were trying to sell the wildlings as slaves, which is
wildlings as slaves, which is interesting. Nice little tidbit showing
interesting. Nice little tidbit showing what was kind of going on with that plot
what was kind of going on with that plot line with Hardome before it's going to
line with Hardome before it's going to get really bad. But when she returns to
get really bad. But when she returns to the temple, we also get another
the temple, we also get another revelation. She learned to see through
revelation. She learned to see through the cat to figure out that the kindly
the cat to figure out that the kindly one was the one who had been hitting her
one was the one who had been hitting her earlier in the day. She says that's one
earlier in the day. She says that's one of the things she's found out. And I
of the things she's found out. And I don't mean that she tells the kindly man
don't mean that she tells the kindly man that, but she figures it out and that's
that, but she figures it out and that's what we know in her head. But it's
what we know in her head. But it's interesting because it shows us that
interesting because it shows us that Arya is learning to ward things outside
Arya is learning to ward things outside of just Nimriia. Something that we
of just Nimriia. Something that we haven't seen, you know, any real
haven't seen, you know, any real characters outside of like Brian be able
characters outside of like Brian be able to do. just shows you, and this is
to do. just shows you, and this is something that the show completely
something that the show completely didn't do, is going into more of the
didn't do, is going into more of the magical powers of the Stark kids. And I
magical powers of the Stark kids. And I find that very, very compelling in this.
find that very, very compelling in this. As we go forward into it, we also see
As we go forward into it, we also see things in this chapter like how hard it
things in this chapter like how hard it was to continue, you know, being this
was to continue, you know, being this blind girl at so many times she thought
blind girl at so many times she thought about, you know, leaving the temple
about, you know, leaving the temple because they would tell her, you know,
because they would tell her, you know, if she wants her vision back, all she
if she wants her vision back, all she has to do is say so and they'll give her
has to do is say so and they'll give her her eyes back, but then she'll be forced
her eyes back, but then she'll be forced to leave. And so I really love that
to leave. And so I really love that element of the story. It has tension to
element of the story. It has tension to it. It has unease. It has a magical
it. It has unease. It has a magical element and feel to it. But she
element and feel to it. But she eventually does get her sight seeing a
eventually does get her sight seeing a candle in front of her. Again, I love
candle in front of her. Again, I love the chapter. I I think it's a pretty
the chapter. I I think it's a pretty good one. I I don't think it's like in
good one. I I don't think it's like in my top chapters of the book or anything.
my top chapters of the book or anything. I think Arya 2, which we will get, is in
I think Arya 2, which we will get, is in my top 10 of the book, but Arya 1 is
my top 10 of the book, but Arya 1 is definitely I'd say an above average
definitely I'd say an above average chapter in this book. I have it ranked
chapter in this book. I have it ranked on my chapter rankings at 30 and there's
on my chapter rankings at 30 and there's a possible 73 chapters in this book. So
a possible 73 chapters in this book. So top 30 pretty solid. Both of her
top 30 pretty solid. Both of her chapters are in my top 30 with Arya 2
chapters are in my top 30 with Arya 2 eventually going to be in my top 10. But
eventually going to be in my top 10. But yeah, so that'll get us into chapter 47,
yeah, so that'll get us into chapter 47, Theon 6. So like I've said for pretty
Theon 6. So like I've said for pretty much every single Theon chapter,
much every single Theon chapter, all of them could be your favorite. And
all of them could be your favorite. And that doesn't change with Theon 6. I
that doesn't change with Theon 6. I personally have Theon 6 as the best
personally have Theon 6 as the best chapter of the first six for Theon.
chapter of the first six for Theon. Again, I talked about a lot for me. As
Again, I talked about a lot for me. As each Theon chapter we get, I think each
each Theon chapter we get, I think each one builds upon and gets better. Um,
one builds upon and gets better. Um, we're going to talk about Theon 7 as
we're going to talk about Theon 7 as well in this video, which will be his
well in this video, which will be his last chapter. And to me, it's his best
last chapter. And to me, it's his best chapter. And I'll talk about why that is
chapter. And I'll talk about why that is when we get there. But again, it builds
when we get there. But again, it builds off of what we got in the last chapter.
off of what we got in the last chapter. where the last chapter was. We kind of
where the last chapter was. We kind of start at Winterfell and there's this
start at Winterfell and there's this sense of security, safety, and as the
sense of security, safety, and as the chapter goes on, the tension builds
chapter goes on, the tension builds more, the weather starts getting worse.
more, the weather starts getting worse. People are starting to kind of feel the
People are starting to kind of feel the effects, especially, you know, the
effects, especially, you know, the phrase, for instance, because they're
phrase, for instance, because they're from the south. And so, this chapter
from the south. And so, this chapter takes what was just alluding towards
takes what was just alluding towards that tension and has it kind of explode.
that tension and has it kind of explode. We see a number of different things
We see a number of different things happen. Firstly, we see as we see slowly
happen. Firstly, we see as we see slowly as there are multiple murders occurring,
as there are multiple murders occurring, each more unsettling than the last. And
each more unsettling than the last. And these are still up for debate. Some
these are still up for debate. Some maybe being the spear wives, some maybe
maybe being the spear wives, some maybe being this hooded man that Theon sees,
being this hooded man that Theon sees, even another one of those being one of
even another one of those being one of the Walders. So, there's a lot kind of
the Walders. So, there's a lot kind of going on here, but we do see Yellow Dick
going on here, but we do see Yellow Dick being one of Ramsay's companions is
being one of Ramsay's companions is brutally killed. this with the fact that
brutally killed. this with the fact that they are wary of Stannis attacking at
they are wary of Stannis attacking at any point. The tension comes to a
any point. The tension comes to a boiling point as the lords begin to turn
boiling point as the lords begin to turn on each other only being stopped by Lady
on each other only being stopped by Lady Dustin and Lord Risewell. But my
Dustin and Lord Risewell. But my favorite little moment of this chapter
favorite little moment of this chapter in my opinion is when Theon who's
in my opinion is when Theon who's watching all of this stuff going on, he
watching all of this stuff going on, he sees almost a rare slight of fear in
sees almost a rare slight of fear in Roose's eyes. Zus is kind of seeing his
Roose's eyes. Zus is kind of seeing his army is splitting and already he has num
army is splitting and already he has num he already is suspicious of many of the
he already is suspicious of many of the lords here especially Lord Manderly this
lords here especially Lord Manderly this is going to make it even more further
is going to make it even more further when people are going disappearing and
when people are going disappearing and people are dying randomly it's not a
people are dying randomly it's not a coincidence there's sabotage being done
coincidence there's sabotage being done but Theon is later questioned was
but Theon is later questioned was basically seen in the whereabouts he's
basically seen in the whereabouts he's always wandering the castle so he is a
always wandering the castle so he is a suspect but he's basically swiftly
suspect but he's basically swiftly dismissed due to his condition again
dismissed due to his condition again he's not strong enough to be killing
he's not strong enough to be killing people very easily or overpowering
people very easily or overpowering people to begin with. And so Theon goes
people to begin with. And so Theon goes to the Weirwoods in the Godswood to pray
to the Weirwoods in the Godswood to pray when he hears a horn. And presumably
when he hears a horn. And presumably this is meant to announce Stannis. It's
this is meant to announce Stannis. It's not really. It's it's Moore's umber. Uh
not really. It's it's Moore's umber. Uh but everybody else doesn't know that.
but everybody else doesn't know that. They believe that this is Stannis and
They believe that this is Stannis and then he's finally arrived at Winterfell.
then he's finally arrived at Winterfell. Again, the tension builds because
Again, the tension builds because already inside of the castle, they're
already inside of the castle, they're not doing well. But now outside of the
not doing well. But now outside of the castle, you have a force that has made
castle, you have a force that has made it to Winterfell. All the while Theon
it to Winterfell. All the while Theon seems to be, you know, praying. He
seems to be, you know, praying. He starts to hear his name. It seems to be
starts to hear his name. It seems to be whispering Theon, but it also seems to
whispering Theon, but it also seems to be Bran. Theon kind of sees Bran in the
be Bran. Theon kind of sees Bran in the tree and it seems to be maybe his voice.
tree and it seems to be maybe his voice. All of this is very interesting given
All of this is very interesting given what we know about Bran at this point of
what we know about Bran at this point of the story and we haven't seen a Bran POV
the story and we haven't seen a Bran POV in actually a very long time now at this
in actually a very long time now at this point. And so this is all very
point. And so this is all very interesting and speculation at can Bran,
interesting and speculation at can Bran, you know, talk to other characters
you know, talk to other characters through the trees and it seems to be the
through the trees and it seems to be the case. We we'll see how that affects the
case. We we'll see how that affects the story going forward. But at the last
story going forward. But at the last part of this, he is set upon by three of
part of this, he is set upon by three of the washerwoman who need his help. And
the washerwoman who need his help. And we know this is going to be to try and
we know this is going to be to try and get Jane Pull, who they believe is Arya
get Jane Pull, who they believe is Arya Stark, out of Winterfell and getting her
Stark, out of Winterfell and getting her to Jon or it's going to end up being
to Jon or it's going to end up being Stannis. But that is what they're trying
Stannis. But that is what they're trying to do. And so we'll see how that plot
to do. And so we'll see how that plot line kind of ends with Theon 7. But to
line kind of ends with Theon 7. But to me personally, really great tra
me personally, really great tra because there's a lot of mystery and
because there's a lot of mystery and intrigue that we are still kind of
intrigue that we are still kind of thinking about even in our theories
thinking about even in our theories today about how Winds of Winter is going
today about how Winds of Winter is going to wrap them up, especially with a lot
to wrap them up, especially with a lot of the killings, the the hooded man for
of the killings, the the hooded man for instance, the Mance uh stuff, how that's
instance, the Mance uh stuff, how that's all going to play out with the pink
all going to play out with the pink letter. A lot of intrigue here and it
letter. A lot of intrigue here and it kind of builds into the finale for Theon
kind of builds into the finale for Theon uh as a character in POV. Chapter number
uh as a character in POV. Chapter number 48 we have is Tyrion 10. Now, I noted in
48 we have is Tyrion 10. Now, I noted in my notes uh that Tyrion 10 of a lot of
my notes uh that Tyrion 10 of a lot of the chapters we've gotten post Young
the chapters we've gotten post Young Griff, I would say this is probably one
Griff, I would say this is probably one of the better ones. I still don't think
of the better ones. I still don't think it's like a great chapter or anything
it's like a great chapter or anything because I have most of Tyrion's chapters
because I have most of Tyrion's chapters or I'd say not most, but I'd say all of
or I'd say not most, but I'd say all of the ones kind of post Young Griff are
the ones kind of post Young Griff are really under they're probably like in
really under they're probably like in that bottom 15 to 20 chapters. This one
that bottom 15 to 20 chapters. This one would just be on kind of like that
would just be on kind of like that higher end, I I would say. And so when I
higher end, I I would say. And so when I look at this chapter, it's the reason
look at this chapter, it's the reason that I think it's a bit better than some
that I think it's a bit better than some of the past chapters is we actually get
of the past chapters is we actually get to see Tyrion being an interesting POV.
to see Tyrion being an interesting POV. You know, what made him interesting in
You know, what made him interesting in the past, right? Him being able to
the past, right? Him being able to outsmart situations or out think things.
outsmart situations or out think things. And so we see him being sold into
And so we see him being sold into slavery. And we're also able to see him
slavery. And we're also able to see him kind of seeing what people are
kind of seeing what people are interested in him and even recognizing
interested in him and even recognizing this maybe this Brown Ben Plum character
this maybe this Brown Ben Plum character who he asks about later and has an
who he asks about later and has an interaction with at the end of this uh
interaction with at the end of this uh chapter. But you also see him
chapter. But you also see him manipulating getting Jorah to be part of
manipulating getting Jorah to be part of their act. And so you have a lot of
their act. And so you have a lot of stuff that's really interesting because
stuff that's really interesting because you see Tyrion being in an element where
you see Tyrion being in an element where he can use the things that make him so
he can use the things that make him so interesting to read. And so that part of
interesting to read. And so that part of it is interesting. And also you have
it is interesting. And also you have this actual idea of okay, we've never
this actual idea of okay, we've never actually really seen a POV who's, you
actually really seen a POV who's, you know, being a slave. We've seen Daenerys
know, being a slave. We've seen Daenerys being a POV where she is someone that is
being a POV where she is someone that is freeing slaves, but she's not herself a
freeing slaves, but she's not herself a slave necessarily. Um, and so we do get
slave necessarily. Um, and so we do get to see this side of it that, you know,
to see this side of it that, you know, showing that slavery, how bad it is. And
showing that slavery, how bad it is. And so part of that is interesting. I just
so part of that is interesting. I just don't feel like it's that necessary
don't feel like it's that necessary given the fact that we do have such a
given the fact that we do have such a big focus on it from Daenerys and really
big focus on it from Daenerys and really the last two books that I feel like,
the last two books that I feel like, yes, I don't mind it and I actually do
yes, I don't mind it and I actually do find that to be interesting with Tyrion.
find that to be interesting with Tyrion. I almost don't feel like we need it
I almost don't feel like we need it because of all the plot lines at at this
because of all the plot lines at at this point of the story, it's the weakest. I
point of the story, it's the weakest. I don't know how I feel about it. And so
don't know how I feel about it. And so Tyrion to me is like I can understand
Tyrion to me is like I can understand why George made the chapter and and it
why George made the chapter and and it is a chapter that needs to I guess be
is a chapter that needs to I guess be told, but I do feel like especially this
told, but I do feel like especially this plotline going forward. A lot of it
plotline going forward. A lot of it almost isn't really needed. Um you could
almost isn't really needed. Um you could really tell this through maybe one
really tell this through maybe one Tyrion chapter instead of having a
Tyrion chapter instead of having a number of of more Tyrion chapters left.
number of of more Tyrion chapters left. We we're not even close to the end of
We we're not even close to the end of his plotline really. And so I like it,
his plotline really. And so I like it, but I don't like it at the same time.
but I don't like it at the same time. And so we do see um as Tyrion and Penny
And so we do see um as Tyrion and Penny have to do their show uh for the slavers
have to do their show uh for the slavers and they're serving wine and eventually
and they're serving wine and eventually we see Tyrion playing SAS against Brown
we see Tyrion playing SAS against Brown Ben Plum which is quite interesting. I
Ben Plum which is quite interesting. I think it's probably my favorite part of
think it's probably my favorite part of the chapter and part of it is because I
the chapter and part of it is because I actually really like the character of
actually really like the character of Brown Ben Plum and I just enjoy when we
Brown Ben Plum and I just enjoy when we get to see him more and that's something
get to see him more and that's something that's even more apparent when we get to
that's even more apparent when we get to Daenerys's next chapter. I like seeing
Daenerys's next chapter. I like seeing her conversation with him. But again,
her conversation with him. But again, it's definitely a chapter that's a step
it's definitely a chapter that's a step up from the quality of the Tyrion
up from the quality of the Tyrion chapters in the last couple. But it's
chapters in the last couple. But it's still kind of eh in terms of the story
still kind of eh in terms of the story lines that we already have right now.
lines that we already have right now. Like I'd rather read a plot line about
Like I'd rather read a plot line about the North. I'd rather read some of these
the North. I'd rather read some of these other POVs we're getting from Dance. Um
other POVs we're getting from Dance. Um I'd rather read, you know, Danny if
I'd rather read, you know, Danny if we're just talking about the marine plot
we're just talking about the marine plot at this point. Um so yeah, I don't know.
at this point. Um so yeah, I don't know. Kind of a mixed chapter to me for Tyrion
Kind of a mixed chapter to me for Tyrion 10. Number 49. Another big surprise. We
10. Number 49. Another big surprise. We see another character from Feast for
see another character from Feast for Crows getting one chapter. This is the
Crows getting one chapter. This is the only chapter Jaime gets in Dance of
only chapter Jaime gets in Dance of Dragons. And I honestly think
Dragons. And I honestly think George has some big balls for this.
George has some big balls for this. Given that Jaime is the best POV of A
Given that Jaime is the best POV of A Feast for Crows and could be argued is
Feast for Crows and could be argued is the best POV of a Storm of Swords.
the best POV of a Storm of Swords. That's not my uh take, but people do
That's not my uh take, but people do some people do think that and so I can't
some people do think that and so I can't really fault you for that. But you give
really fault you for that. But you give us one chapter here and what we do get
us one chapter here and what we do get is fantastic. It's not Jaime's best
is fantastic. It's not Jaime's best chapter. I think he has better chapters
chapter. I think he has better chapters in A Feast for Crows, but I do think
in A Feast for Crows, but I do think it's a really strong one. It's a really
it's a really strong one. It's a really good chapter. None of Jaime's chapters
good chapter. None of Jaime's chapters are bad in Feast for Crows. He was
are bad in Feast for Crows. He was always consistently having all the
always consistently having all the chapters ranked in the top half of a
chapters ranked in the top half of a Feast for Crows. But to me, what we get
Feast for Crows. But to me, what we get with this chapter is we're seeing this
with this chapter is we're seeing this siege that's being done on the
siege that's being done on the Blackwoods by the Brackens. It's Jaime
Blackwoods by the Brackens. It's Jaime arriving and kind of settling the
arriving and kind of settling the conflict because the war really is over.
conflict because the war really is over. I mean, at this time, Riverrun has
I mean, at this time, Riverrun has fallen. There doesn't really look like
fallen. There doesn't really look like any chance that the Lannisters are going
any chance that the Lannisters are going to be taken down at this point. Uh we
to be taken down at this point. Uh we know it's probably going to happen at
know it's probably going to happen at some point, but at this time, yeah, it
some point, but at this time, yeah, it feels like the war is over. So, the
feels like the war is over. So, the Blackwoods need to be dealt with, and
Blackwoods need to be dealt with, and the Brackens have already bent the knee
the Brackens have already bent the knee rather quickly that Jaime kind of notes.
rather quickly that Jaime kind of notes. And so, it's Jaime having to deal with
And so, it's Jaime having to deal with the two families. This chapter is almost
the two families. This chapter is almost completely about the Blackwood and
completely about the Blackwood and Bracken conflict. We get a lot of our
Bracken conflict. We get a lot of our history about what actually maybe
history about what actually maybe occurred in the past with both houses.
occurred in the past with both houses. And the moral of the story here is, you
And the moral of the story here is, you know, you you have two families that
know, you you have two families that hate each other generationally, right?
hate each other generationally, right? And it almost feels like for no reason,
And it almost feels like for no reason, neither one of the histories are really
neither one of the histories are really recorded that well. They could be
recorded that well. They could be blurred together. We really don't know
blurred together. We really don't know what the true history of the Blackwoods
what the true history of the Blackwoods and Brackens are. So these two sides
and Brackens are. So these two sides could be fighting over, you know, petty
could be fighting over, you know, petty things that happened in the past and
things that happened in the past and that creates more issues, right? You
that creates more issues, right? You think about characters like Blood Raven
think about characters like Blood Raven and Bittersteel. those characters hate
and Bittersteel. those characters hate each other because of certain things
each other because of certain things that did happen during that time, but
that did happen during that time, but also a lot of their hatred was built
also a lot of their hatred was built upon things that happened generations
upon things that happened generations and generations ago. And so, it's this
and generations ago. And so, it's this pointless conflict in a lot of ways.
pointless conflict in a lot of ways. It's George writing about this pointless
It's George writing about this pointless conflict that leads to violence
conflict that leads to violence continually.
continually. And so, I find that aspect of this to be
And so, I find that aspect of this to be really interesting. It's also uh kind of
really interesting. It's also uh kind of interesting to see how Jaime deals with
interesting to see how Jaime deals with Lord Blackwood, somebody that has been
Lord Blackwood, somebody that has been in the story um really since book one.
in the story um really since book one. It's interesting to see how he deals
It's interesting to see how he deals with him and also dealing with Lord
with him and also dealing with Lord Bracken as well. Really awesome to see
Bracken as well. Really awesome to see how Jaime works through all those
how Jaime works through all those things. But then he leaves us on a
things. But then he leaves us on a massive cliffhanger. And I mean a
massive cliffhanger. And I mean a massive cliffhanger. I think of all of
massive cliffhanger. I think of all of the story lines that ends in this book.
the story lines that ends in this book. This is the one that you're almost like
This is the one that you're almost like wow. It's kind of surprising George
wow. It's kind of surprising George didn't give us more here. Especially
didn't give us more here. Especially what we know with A Feast for Crows,
what we know with A Feast for Crows, right? Where Brienne's storyline ends
right? Where Brienne's storyline ends there and with Lady Stoneheart. we see
there and with Lady Stoneheart. we see Brienne, you know, pop up here with
Brienne, you know, pop up here with Jaime and that's just how it ends,
Jaime and that's just how it ends, right? The two are going to go off um
right? The two are going to go off um alone and all of that. And it's a really
alone and all of that. And it's a really great cliffhanger because, you know, you
great cliffhanger because, you know, you really want to see more of it, but at
really want to see more of it, but at the same time, it's like, man,
the same time, it's like, man, um I could not imagine reading A Dance
um I could not imagine reading A Dance of Dragons when it first came out and
of Dragons when it first came out and now you've waited, you know, however
now you've waited, you know, however many years, and we still have not gotten
many years, and we still have not gotten any answers to that at all. Yeah, great
any answers to that at all. Yeah, great chapter by Jamie, of course. Um, but
chapter by Jamie, of course. Um, but yeah, it's very very ballsy in my
yeah, it's very very ballsy in my opinion that George gave us one chapter
opinion that George gave us one chapter of Jaime and then we do not see him for
of Jaime and then we do not see him for the rest of the book. He does that a lot
the rest of the book. He does that a lot a lot with his POVs in this book. You
a lot with his POVs in this book. You know, for instance, Bran Davos, two of
know, for instance, Bran Davos, two of my favorite POVs in the first half of
my favorite POVs in the first half of the book, they disappear. Um, Jamie pops
the book, they disappear. Um, Jamie pops up once, second half of the book, don't
up once, second half of the book, don't see him again. So, he does that quite a
see him again. So, he does that quite a lot with a lot of the POVs in the book.
lot with a lot of the POVs in the book. But, um, yeah, great chatter by Jamie.
But, um, yeah, great chatter by Jamie. Let's move on to number 50, John 10. So
Let's move on to number 50, John 10. So John 10 builds off of what we got in
John 10 builds off of what we got in John 9 where we're seeing the fallout of
John 9 where we're seeing the fallout of the Karst Stark plotline. We see Alice
the Karst Stark plotline. We see Alice Karst Stark and Sigorn who is the leader
Karst Stark and Sigorn who is the leader of the Fens at this time. He they are
of the Fens at this time. He they are being married together and it's kind of
being married together and it's kind of very interesting because you have this
very interesting because you have this mixed support. It's continually showing
mixed support. It's continually showing how the Nights Watch does not approve of
how the Nights Watch does not approve of what Jon's doing. Jon is at this time
what Jon's doing. Jon is at this time isolating many of the people of the
isolating many of the people of the Nights Watch where at this wedding we
Nights Watch where at this wedding we see a lot of the Queen's men because for
see a lot of the Queen's men because for now they kind of do like what Jon's
now they kind of do like what Jon's doing, right? You're uniting a northern
doing, right? You're uniting a northern house with the wildlings and all those
house with the wildlings and all those things, but they're not going to have a
things, but they're not going to have a great relationship in the future. And so
great relationship in the future. And so a little bit of that is foreshadowed
a little bit of that is foreshadowed here once again with Axel Florent. But
here once again with Axel Florent. But yeah, and then we also see that Jon has
yeah, and then we also see that Jon has almost no support. There's no Nights
almost no support. There's no Nights Watchmen really here whatsoever.
Watchmen really here whatsoever. And so it's interesting to see how John
And so it's interesting to see how John also was kind of playing northern
also was kind of playing northern politics like he's trying to say oh yeah
politics like he's trying to say oh yeah he's not you know taking any side or
he's not you know taking any side or whatnot but at the same time he is he's
whatnot but at the same time he is he's arranging this marriage between Alice
arranging this marriage between Alice and Sigorn and also he's taking Stark
and Sigorn and also he's taking Stark captive now he does have some precedent
captive now he does have some precedent that he's trying to use you know Alice
that he's trying to use you know Alice Karst Stark came to them and here's
Karst Stark came to them and here's Craig and Stark trying to take her
Craig and Stark trying to take her against you know her against her will
against you know her against her will you know that is you know a crime but
you know that is you know a crime but the way people are going view the
the way people are going view the situation is they're going to look at it
situation is they're going to look at it from an outside point of view. You don't
from an outside point of view. You don't have all the information. You're going
have all the information. You're going to say, "Oh, yeah, the Night's Watch is
to say, "Oh, yeah, the Night's Watch is helping Stannis or it's going against,
helping Stannis or it's going against, you know, Creek and Carstark." So, I
you know, Creek and Carstark." So, I look at all this information and I find
look at all this information and I find that very interesting because, you know,
that very interesting because, you know, for one, Jon is playing politics that
for one, Jon is playing politics that it's kind of working against him, right?
it's kind of working against him, right? People are slowly becoming more and more
People are slowly becoming more and more against him and he's losing support to
against him and he's losing support to do these actions. And we're going to see
do these actions. And we're going to see that kind of falling out in the next
that kind of falling out in the next couple chapters. But we do see this
couple chapters. But we do see this marriage and in a lot of ways it kind of
marriage and in a lot of ways it kind of feels like this uneasy bright moment for
feels like this uneasy bright moment for this late part of the Jon storyline
this late part of the Jon storyline where everything that we're hearing in
where everything that we're hearing in Jon story line is kind of not good right
Jon story line is kind of not good right you can tell there's some sort of
you can tell there's some sort of conflict coming between the wildlings
conflict coming between the wildlings and the night watch and you kind of feel
and the night watch and you kind of feel that boiling over and so when you have
that boiling over and so when you have that coming into it but you also have
that coming into it but you also have this marriage which is kind of a happy
this marriage which is kind of a happy marriage right Alice seems to at least
marriage right Alice seems to at least be happy trying to get Sigorn to open up
be happy trying to get Sigorn to open up and this interesting alliance and Alice
and this interesting alliance and Alice just as a character is very fascinating.
just as a character is very fascinating. I I really enjoy the character of Alice.
I I really enjoy the character of Alice. Again, her and Jon have really good
Again, her and Jon have really good chemistry in these chapters. And so you
chemistry in these chapters. And so you do have this happy moment in the face of
do have this happy moment in the face of impending doom for Jon. And it also
impending doom for Jon. And it also really boils over when you have Axel
really boils over when you have Axel Floren once again talking about Val to
Floren once again talking about Val to Jon when we hear a horn blow to say that
Jon when we hear a horn blow to say that Val has returned. So again, this chapter
Val has returned. So again, this chapter really does a great job of building off
really does a great job of building off of the re reveal of the last John
of the re reveal of the last John chapter and also pushing kind of the
chapter and also pushing kind of the story forward and moving us into uh
story forward and moving us into uh really the last couple chapters. John
really the last couple chapters. John has, I believe, three chapters after
has, I believe, three chapters after this. So really good chapter from John.
this. So really good chapter from John. Um I don't think it's like top 20 or
Um I don't think it's like top 20 or anything like that, but it's definitely
anything like that, but it's definitely a solid one. At number 51, we get into
a solid one. At number 51, we get into Danny 8. So Danny 8 is really weird
Danny 8. So Danny 8 is really weird because it has the issue of coming right
because it has the issue of coming right before Danny's really big chapter which
before Danny's really big chapter which is Danny 9. It's one of the best
is Danny 9. It's one of the best chapters of the book and it also doesn't
chapters of the book and it also doesn't have a lot for Daenerys to really do
have a lot for Daenerys to really do right and so in a lot of ways I don't
right and so in a lot of ways I don't feel like this is a bad chapter for
feel like this is a bad chapter for Daenerys but again it's not a good
Daenerys but again it's not a good chapter for Daenerys either. I just
chapter for Daenerys either. I just think it's very middle of the pack. And
think it's very middle of the pack. And so this chapter really follows these
so this chapter really follows these Yunkai like peace talks, right? Where
Yunkai like peace talks, right? Where hisdar is entertaining the Junkish and
hisdar is entertaining the Junkish and Daenerys is just kind of sitting back
Daenerys is just kind of sitting back just observing. It's not a lot that
just observing. It's not a lot that she's doing in this chapter in terms of
she's doing in this chapter in terms of actions, right? And so a lot of this
actions, right? And so a lot of this chapter, it's just kind of, you know,
chapter, it's just kind of, you know, whatever there, you know, it's her
whatever there, you know, it's her looking at the Junkish flaunting, you
looking at the Junkish flaunting, you know, their slaves and all flaunting
know, their slaves and all flaunting things in Daenerys's face, seeing how
things in Daenerys's face, seeing how much she'll take, see if she will maybe
much she'll take, see if she will maybe break the piece, which she ends up kind
break the piece, which she ends up kind of doing in the next chapter, not of her
of doing in the next chapter, not of her own decisions, but because of Drogon,
own decisions, but because of Drogon, but still. And so you see, you know,
but still. And so you see, you know, Hizdar playing the king role, Daenerys
Hizdar playing the king role, Daenerys just allowing it to happen. And Daenerys
just allowing it to happen. And Daenerys is kind of just sulking about this. But
is kind of just sulking about this. But the best two moments of the chapter are
the best two moments of the chapter are definitely when Daenerys is able to
definitely when Daenerys is able to actually do something and having
actually do something and having conversations with people. And so we see
conversations with people. And so we see her having a conversation with Brown Ben
her having a conversation with Brown Ben Plum. And it's interesting because Brown
Plum. And it's interesting because Brown Ben Plum tells her straight up like the
Ben Plum tells her straight up like the reason, you know, we went against you is
reason, you know, we went against you is not because we don't like you. It's
not because we don't like you. It's because, you know, you are looking like
because, you know, you are looking like you're on the losing slide. You're not,
you're on the losing slide. You're not, you know, being able to control your
you know, being able to control your dragons, which is the thing that's going
dragons, which is the thing that's going to make you, you know, you're a
to make you, you know, you're a conqueror. And so he says those things.
conqueror. And so he says those things. And so you can see that yeah, Brown Ben
And so you can see that yeah, Brown Ben Plum is somebody that would be open to
Plum is somebody that would be open to maybe coming back to Daenerys's side
maybe coming back to Daenerys's side like Tyrion inevitably, you know,
like Tyrion inevitably, you know, convinced him to do in the next couple
convinced him to do in the next couple chapters. But at the same time, you can
chapters. But at the same time, you can see that Daenerys is going against her
see that Daenerys is going against her Targaryen side, something Quaith told
Targaryen side, something Quaith told her to not do. Remember who she is.
her to not do. Remember who she is. That's something that she's going to
That's something that she's going to have to realize in Danny 10 and Danny 9,
have to realize in Danny 10 and Danny 9, I guess, as well. And then the other
I guess, as well. And then the other part of this chapter is where she
part of this chapter is where she basically has Quentyn come with her and
basically has Quentyn come with her and Daenerys is trying to basically nicely
Daenerys is trying to basically nicely say Quentyn, this is not a good place
say Quentyn, this is not a good place for you. You know, Daenerys is now
for you. You know, Daenerys is now married to Hisdar,
married to Hisdar, right? Like this is not the time for you
right? Like this is not the time for you to be here and it's very dangerous for
to be here and it's very dangerous for you to be here. And she also tries to
you to be here. And she also tries to show the dragons to him to kind of scare
show the dragons to him to kind of scare him and all those things. And funny
him and all those things. And funny enough, Quentyn takes this as, "Oh yeah,
enough, Quentyn takes this as, "Oh yeah, maybe I should release a dragon. and the
maybe I should release a dragon. and the dragons will definitely like me.
dragons will definitely like me. So again, I like what it does for
So again, I like what it does for Daenerys in terms of the last two like
Daenerys in terms of the last two like conversations. Really, the back part of
conversations. Really, the back part of this chapter is more of the enjoyable
this chapter is more of the enjoyable stuff, not the front half. And it also
stuff, not the front half. And it also kind of gets the Quentyn plot
kind of gets the Quentyn plot forwarding, keeping going and somehow
forwarding, keeping going and somehow Quentyn rationalizes what he's going to
Quentyn rationalizes what he's going to rationalize. Um, and getting kind of his
rationalize. Um, and getting kind of his plot for the last parts of this book.
plot for the last parts of this book. But yeah, it's a pretty solid nar
But yeah, it's a pretty solid nar chapter. Has some good, has some bad,
chapter. Has some good, has some bad, like a lot of this book does. Number 52
like a lot of this book does. Number 52 and we have Theon 7. And so George was
and we have Theon 7. And so George was just burning through these Theon
just burning through these Theon chapters. I mean, we've only done about
chapters. I mean, we've only done about 11. This will be the 11th chapter we've
11. This will be the 11th chapter we've done in this video, and he's already
done in this video, and he's already burned through three of them. So Theon
burned through three of them. So Theon 7, I do want to take a kind of moment
7, I do want to take a kind of moment here because this is his last chapter of
here because this is his last chapter of the book in terms of a POV. He will show
the book in terms of a POV. He will show up in one more chapter, but he is not
up in one more chapter, but he is not actually the POV in that chapter. And so
actually the POV in that chapter. And so Theon to me is the reason why Dance with
Theon to me is the reason why Dance with Dragons, I think a lot of people might
Dragons, I think a lot of people might view it better than I do. Um because I
view it better than I do. Um because I think without Theon's plotline, I think
think without Theon's plotline, I think this book would be very very very much
this book would be very very very much viewed not as great. Um because Theon to
viewed not as great. Um because Theon to me is the constant of this book. Every
me is the constant of this book. Every chapter he has is a top 20 chapter in
chapter he has is a top 20 chapter in the book. He is fantastic. I think
the book. He is fantastic. I think George does some of his best writing and
George does some of his best writing and in the entire series in this plot line
in the entire series in this plot line and he concludes it here. Um, and this
and he concludes it here. Um, and this chapter is just full of tension where
chapter is just full of tension where it's been kind of building up and
it's been kind of building up and building up. It explodes here, right? In
building up. It explodes here, right? In terms of Theon his and his character, in
terms of Theon his and his character, in terms of the actual northern plot, it
terms of the actual northern plot, it explodes, right? Because you have people
explodes, right? Because you have people on the edge of their seats, right?
on the edge of their seats, right? Because in this chapter, we see that
Because in this chapter, we see that little Walder has been killed presumably
little Walder has been killed presumably by Big Walder. Uh, and you see all that,
by Big Walder. Uh, and you see all that, you know, coming to pass, right? the
you know, coming to pass, right? the Manderlys and the Freys are coming to
Manderlys and the Freys are coming to blows. It seems like there's a going to
blows. It seems like there's a going to be a battle that's going to go out
be a battle that's going to go out between the two as Mander as Wyman
between the two as Mander as Wyman Manderly is actually assaulted in this
Manderly is actually assaulted in this actual chapter. We see that Roose has to
actual chapter. We see that Roose has to send them out to try and kill Stannis
send them out to try and kill Stannis because if he doesn't there's going to
because if he doesn't there's going to be a battle within Winterfell and it's
be a battle within Winterfell and it's not going to be a good look for Roose
not going to be a good look for Roose and so Roose sends them out and this is
and so Roose sends them out and this is the kind of the catalyst for everything
the kind of the catalyst for everything and to go into motion, right? Theon and
and to go into motion, right? Theon and the Spear wives are going to try and
the Spear wives are going to try and free Jame. And so this is huge for Theon
free Jame. And so this is huge for Theon because it's gonna be him going against
because it's gonna be him going against Ramsay. And so he has to have courage.
Ramsay. And so he has to have courage. He has to do all these things. But we
He has to do all these things. But we know if he fails at any point, right?
know if he fails at any point, right? Whether it's, you know, getting the
Whether it's, you know, getting the bathwater, whether it's trying to get
bathwater, whether it's trying to get past the guards, whether it's trying to
past the guards, whether it's trying to get Jane to actually cooperate, if any
get Jane to actually cooperate, if any of these things goes wrong and Theon
of these things goes wrong and Theon isn't killed, he's going to experience
isn't killed, he's going to experience even worse tor to torture than before.
even worse tor to torture than before. And so you have that playing on this
And so you have that playing on this situation where Theon and the Spearwise,
situation where Theon and the Spearwise, they're you trying to get past all these
they're you trying to get past all these obstacles and we see, you know, him
obstacles and we see, you know, him Theon becoming Theon once again. That's
Theon becoming Theon once again. That's why this chapter is like Theon one. Um,
why this chapter is like Theon one. Um, and so we see him getting Jane to have
and so we see him getting Jane to have some courage and to escape and the plan
some courage and to escape and the plan just slowly starts to unravel, right? It
just slowly starts to unravel, right? It just slowly starts to go wrong. you
just slowly starts to go wrong. you know, having to kill this person, that
know, having to kill this person, that making a big sound, and, you know, not
making a big sound, and, you know, not having the rope because the spear wife
having the rope because the spear wife that is kind of holding holding her
that is kind of holding holding her ground. Well, she had the rope to get
ground. Well, she had the rope to get down. So, now you're just going to have
down. So, now you're just going to have to jump for it. And so, you see Theon
to jump for it. And so, you see Theon and Jane escaping Winterfell in this
and Jane escaping Winterfell in this last stitch attempt where it's like,
last stitch attempt where it's like, okay, if we die in the fall, that's
okay, if we die in the fall, that's better than living. So, it's Theon
better than living. So, it's Theon taking this arc where we start the
taking this arc where we start the journey with him as Reek as this
journey with him as Reek as this character that has almost no part of
character that has almost no part of Theon left in him. And by the end of it,
Theon left in him. And by the end of it, through this transformation of a
through this transformation of a character, finding this new version of
character, finding this new version of Theon, it is one of the best character
Theon, it is one of the best character arcs in terms of just a single book in
arcs in terms of just a single book in the entire story. Um, it is my second uh
the entire story. Um, it is my second uh favorite chapter andor best chapter of
favorite chapter andor best chapter of the book. I still have Davos um four
the book. I still have Davos um four ahead of it. Um but it is ranked number
ahead of it. Um but it is ranked number two for me. Theon, like I talked about,
two for me. Theon, like I talked about, is a character that I don't rank outside
is a character that I don't rank outside of the top like 30 chapters. Um the
of the top like 30 chapters. Um the lowest one I have is Theon one, which is
lowest one I have is Theon one, which is um number 28. And that's the Reek
um number 28. And that's the Reek chapter, not actually like Theon one as
chapter, not actually like Theon one as it is in the book. I know it might be a
it is in the book. I know it might be a little confusing, but um yeah. So Theon
little confusing, but um yeah. So Theon 7, fantastic chapter. I gotta give
7, fantastic chapter. I gotta give George all of his flowers for what he
George all of his flowers for what he did with the character in this book. And
did with the character in this book. And uh it's a shame we won't see him really
uh it's a shame we won't see him really in the last like 20ish chapters of the
in the last like 20ish chapters of the book outside of just Asha. But uh yeah,
book outside of just Asha. But uh yeah, so getting into chapter 53 and like I
so getting into chapter 53 and like I just talked about Theon's last chapter
just talked about Theon's last chapter of the book for me is the second best
of the book for me is the second best chapter. And right after we get through
chapter. And right after we get through with that chapter, right, one of the
with that chapter, right, one of the best of the book I think for most of the
best of the book I think for most of the people in the community, George follows
people in the community, George follows it up by giving us Danny 9. And like I
it up by giving us Danny 9. And like I talk about, no matter what book we are
talk about, no matter what book we are in, if Danny has a POV in it, she has
in, if Danny has a POV in it, she has just one banger chapter, every single
just one banger chapter, every single book. The Game of Thrones, her last
book. The Game of Thrones, her last chapter, the ending of Game of Thrones
chapter, the ending of Game of Thrones is, in my opinion, the best chapter of
is, in my opinion, the best chapter of the entire book, it's up there as one of
the entire book, it's up there as one of the best of the entire series. Book two,
the best of the entire series. Book two, uh, House of the Undying, one of the
uh, House of the Undying, one of the best of the book, one of the best of the
best of the book, one of the best of the series. Storm of Swords, you could say a
series. Storm of Swords, you could say a lot of different chapters are really
lot of different chapters are really good for her. Personally, the one that
good for her. Personally, the one that always sticks to me is when she does get
always sticks to me is when she does get the Unsullied, one of the best chapters
the Unsullied, one of the best chapters of that book. And then you get to book
of that book. And then you get to book five. In book five, Danny is kind of in
five. In book five, Danny is kind of in this weird place because when we do my
this weird place because when we do my chapter rankings at the end of this
chapter rankings at the end of this series, you're going to see a lot of
series, you're going to see a lot of Daenerys's chapters are kind of in the
Daenerys's chapters are kind of in the same area. They're kind of like just
same area. They're kind of like just kind of in that middle ground of this
kind of in that middle ground of this book. But Danny comes swinging in Danny
book. But Danny comes swinging in Danny 9. Uh, I think this is probably I have
9. Uh, I think this is probably I have it ranked as of right now as the sixth
it ranked as of right now as the sixth best chapter of the book. And this is
best chapter of the book. And this is the chapter where Daenerys finally rides
the chapter where Daenerys finally rides Drogon. It's been this big uh thing
Drogon. It's been this big uh thing we've been waiting for from Daenerys for
we've been waiting for from Daenerys for a long time. You know, she having to
a long time. You know, she having to remember who she is, being a Targaryen
remember who she is, being a Targaryen and pushing back on everything the
and pushing back on everything the Yunkish have been doing to her. And so,
Yunkish have been doing to her. And so, there's that part of it, right? That is
there's that part of it, right? That is the climax of this chapter. But before
the climax of this chapter. But before we get to that part, it's the reopening
we get to that part, it's the reopening of the fighting pits. Dany has to be
of the fighting pits. Dany has to be here uh just for the customs and she's
here uh just for the customs and she's required to be here and all of that. And
required to be here and all of that. And so I even like how Daenerys is forced to
so I even like how Daenerys is forced to again building off the last chapter, she
again building off the last chapter, she feels awful that she has to watch this
feels awful that she has to watch this violence, right? That's pointless to
violence, right? That's pointless to her. Now we know why some of these
her. Now we know why some of these people might want this for glory, gold,
people might want this for glory, gold, all those type of things. But for Danny,
all those type of things. But for Danny, she views it as violence that is just
she views it as violence that is just pointless. It doesn't do anything that
pointless. It doesn't do anything that is good in her eyes. We see a number of
is good in her eyes. We see a number of interesting things happen as there's an
interesting things happen as there's an assassination attempt on her life it
assassination attempt on her life it would appear but thankfully for her
would appear but thankfully for her strong bellowis eats all of the locusts
strong bellowis eats all of the locusts and he's just that much of a Chad that
and he's just that much of a Chad that he actually is going to live but so we
he actually is going to live but so we have that mystery we still haven't
have that mystery we still haven't solved that mystery going into winds of
solved that mystery going into winds of winter and it's something we still
winter and it's something we still speculate on till till today and to me I
speculate on till till today and to me I still don't have a really concrete
still don't have a really concrete answer into what actually occurred there
answer into what actually occurred there I think it could likely be somebody like
I think it could likely be somebody like Resnak it could be somebody you know
Resnak it could be somebody you know maybe it is like his DAR, but I don't
maybe it is like his DAR, but I don't really like that idea. That seems like
really like that idea. That seems like too on the nose for George. Maybe it was
too on the nose for George. Maybe it was the Green Grace. Maybe it was somebody
the Green Grace. Maybe it was somebody in the Junish. Who knows? Could have
in the Junish. Who knows? Could have been shahasa's the shave paint. There's
been shahasa's the shave paint. There's a number of people that would have
a number of people that would have wanted Danny dead. And so, it's just an
wanted Danny dead. And so, it's just an interesting thing to think about as
interesting thing to think about as you're reread these chapters. And one
you're reread these chapters. And one thing that I specifically was looking
thing that I specifically was looking towards, and it's kind of a video I I I
towards, and it's kind of a video I I I already did, but the idea of who this
already did, but the idea of who this perfumed individual that is going to
perfumed individual that is going to betray Daenerys is is something I kind
betray Daenerys is is something I kind of tried to think about. And it's just
of tried to think about. And it's just hard because in Meereen, there's just so
hard because in Meereen, there's just so many different people that would want
many different people that would want her dead and just don't like her based
her dead and just don't like her based upon how she's ruling Meereen that it's
upon how she's ruling Meereen that it's going to be interesting to see the way
going to be interesting to see the way George kind of connects all these plots
George kind of connects all these plots and finishes them. But we also see a
and finishes them. But we also see a fight with a boar in which the boar
fight with a boar in which the boar wins. But at this because of all the
wins. But at this because of all the bloodshed and all the commotion, Drogon
bloodshed and all the commotion, Drogon comes in and eats the boar. Now, I think
comes in and eats the boar. Now, I think this is interesting because if you guys
this is interesting because if you guys remember back in book one, Robert
remember back in book one, Robert Baratheon is killed by a boar. And so, I
Baratheon is killed by a boar. And so, I find it interesting because you think
find it interesting because you think about, you know, after Robert's death,
about, you know, after Robert's death, we've had this fight for who should be
we've had this fight for who should be the heir after him, right? And so, it's
the heir after him, right? And so, it's been Joffrey, Tommen, you know, Stannis,
been Joffrey, Tommen, you know, Stannis, Renley, all these different people. And
Renley, all these different people. And I almost think this is somewhat of some
I almost think this is somewhat of some symbolism, right? that Daenerys is going
symbolism, right? that Daenerys is going to come in and she's going to be the one
to come in and she's going to be the one that's going to basically destroy all
that's going to basically destroy all these other claimments to the throne
these other claimments to the throne when she takes over. Uh referencing, you
when she takes over. Uh referencing, you know, her eating the boar. I I just
know, her eating the boar. I I just think that's a nice little tiein, you
think that's a nice little tiein, you know, referring to Rob Barraium, the one
know, referring to Rob Barraium, the one that took down her family, the thing
that took down her family, the thing that killed her, and then Daenerys's
that killed her, and then Daenerys's dragon eats a boar. I just find that a
dragon eats a boar. I just find that a little nice symbolism, something I
little nice symbolism, something I didn't pick up on um in past rereads.
didn't pick up on um in past rereads. But this all leads to Drogon landing in
But this all leads to Drogon landing in the pits and one of the most tense
the pits and one of the most tense moments in the book. Everything seems to
moments in the book. Everything seems to freeze in time as Daenerys goes towards
freeze in time as Daenerys goes towards Drogon trying to command him and to
Drogon trying to command him and to really, you know, get that connection
really, you know, get that connection that we see for instance in like House
that we see for instance in like House of the Dragon to be able to ride him. A
of the Dragon to be able to ride him. A very similar thing to like maybe, you
very similar thing to like maybe, you know, Aean with Vaggar on House of the
know, Aean with Vaggar on House of the Dragon or something like that. Maybe
Dragon or something like that. Maybe Lena with Vagar is another, you know,
Lena with Vagar is another, you know, maybe good example as well. And we see
maybe good example as well. And we see that Daenerys is finally able to ride
that Daenerys is finally able to ride Drogon and claim her dragon for the most
Drogon and claim her dragon for the most part. And at this she ends up flying
part. And at this she ends up flying off. And again, this is something as a
off. And again, this is something as a book fan that you would have been
book fan that you would have been waiting for for a long time. Ever since
waiting for for a long time. Ever since that we knew that dragons were going to
that we knew that dragons were going to be a thing in this series when they were
be a thing in this series when they were brought to, I guess, the world or to
brought to, I guess, the world or to Daenerys in book one at the very end.
Daenerys in book one at the very end. This is something we were always waiting
This is something we were always waiting for. And something that's going to be
for. And something that's going to be really interesting is how George then,
really interesting is how George then, you know, uses the other two dragons,
you know, uses the other two dragons, right? Because we've never really seen
right? Because we've never really seen somebody that's able to, you know, have
somebody that's able to, you know, have a claim on three dragons, right?
a claim on three dragons, right? Daenerys is the mother of these three
Daenerys is the mother of these three dragons, but it seems likely that
dragons, but it seems likely that Daenerys's like mental connection just
Daenerys's like mental connection just is not as strong with those other two
is not as strong with those other two dragons. And so, who eventually is going
dragons. And so, who eventually is going to tame those dragons? Right? People
to tame those dragons? Right? People have put forth this idea of maybe this
have put forth this idea of maybe this dragon tamer theory. Maybe it's going to
dragon tamer theory. Maybe it's going to be, you know, Euron. Maybe somehow
be, you know, Euron. Maybe somehow Victarion gets a dragon, maybe Young
Victarion gets a dragon, maybe Young Griff. Maybe, you know, Brown Ben Plum.
Griff. Maybe, you know, Brown Ben Plum. Maybe Jon Snow. There's just so many
Maybe Jon Snow. There's just so many people that have Targaryen blood that
people that have Targaryen blood that possibly could still claim a dragon that
possibly could still claim a dragon that it'll be interesting to see how George
it'll be interesting to see how George does it. Daenerys 9 is a chapter that I
does it. Daenerys 9 is a chapter that I think was sorely needed in this book
think was sorely needed in this book because in my opinion Daenerys doesn't
because in my opinion Daenerys doesn't have a lot of chapters that to me stick
have a lot of chapters that to me stick out that you know if you didn't reread
out that you know if you didn't reread the series um and you're you know five
the series um and you're you know five or 10 years removed from reading this
or 10 years removed from reading this book there's not many moments that I
book there's not many moments that I think really stick out for Daenerys um
think really stick out for Daenerys um outside of I'd say probably this chapter
outside of I'd say probably this chapter the next chapter and maybe some of the
the next chapter and maybe some of the just things going on politically that
just things going on politically that you see with Daenerys but I I I do think
you see with Daenerys but I I I do think this book is not her worst book. I think
this book is not her worst book. I think Clash is definitely her worst book, but
Clash is definitely her worst book, but this is definitely kind of just on her.
this is definitely kind of just on her. It's not as good as Game of Thrones, not
It's not as good as Game of Thrones, not as good as Storm of Swords, but this
as good as Storm of Swords, but this chapter definitely helps. And that'll
chapter definitely helps. And that'll get us to number 54, John 11. So John
get us to number 54, John 11. So John 11, again, kind of a switch of pace,
11, again, kind of a switch of pace, right? We come from two of the most
right? We come from two of the most tense and best chapters of the book down
tense and best chapters of the book down to John 11, which, you know, it's fine.
to John 11, which, you know, it's fine. I think it has some good things about
I think it has some good things about it. I think it has some things where
it. I think it has some things where it's like has to get done, but it's not
it's like has to get done, but it's not the most exciting stuff. So, for
the most exciting stuff. So, for instance, you know, the beginning of
instance, you know, the beginning of this, you know, chapter is all about
this, you know, chapter is all about torment and how they're going to
torment and how they're going to negotiate the wildlings, you know,
negotiate the wildlings, you know, coming south and crossing south of the
coming south and crossing south of the wall. And part of those terms are, you
wall. And part of those terms are, you know, having to give up hostages, giving
know, having to give up hostages, giving their treasures to the wall to pay for
their treasures to the wall to pay for food and where they shall actually live
food and where they shall actually live once they are established south of the
once they are established south of the wall. Eventually, all this is figured
wall. Eventually, all this is figured out. Torman agrees and Val and Jon must
out. Torman agrees and Val and Jon must tell Cis of the terms and she's not very
tell Cis of the terms and she's not very happy about this because they're not
happy about this because they're not really you know keeping to Stannis the
really you know keeping to Stannis the way he had done it in the past right
way he had done it in the past right where they had to kneel to him and all
where they had to kneel to him and all those things and so these wildlings are
those things and so these wildlings are not going to be forced to do that at all
not going to be forced to do that at all and so Ciss isn't happy with this she's
and so Ciss isn't happy with this she's also not happy the way Val has been kind
also not happy the way Val has been kind of you know let set free and being not
of you know let set free and being not forced to marry some of her own knights
forced to marry some of her own knights or whatnot and so when you see this
or whatnot and so when you see this occurring it basically isolates John
occurring it basically isolates John even more because what we saw in John 10
even more because what we saw in John 10 was, you know, Jon was losing support
was, you know, Jon was losing support from the Nights Watch, but he at least
from the Nights Watch, but he at least still seemed to have some support, you
still seemed to have some support, you know, from the Queensmen, right? At
know, from the Queensmen, right? At least that they were, you know, happy
least that they were, you know, happy with the Alice Karstark marriage. And so
with the Alice Karstark marriage. And so now at this point where, you know, you
now at this point where, you know, you have this Jon kind of severing those
have this Jon kind of severing those ties with Ciss. It's like at this point
ties with Ciss. It's like at this point at John 11, who really does Jon have
at John 11, who really does Jon have backing him up, you know? And when you
backing him up, you know? And when you think about that question, you go, hm,
think about that question, you go, hm, there really isn't anybody that like you
there really isn't anybody that like you would think is a staunch ally right now
would think is a staunch ally right now of John's. I would said maybe people
of John's. I would said maybe people like Val, Mel, maybe Tormund, um,
like Val, Mel, maybe Tormund, um, Dolores, Ed, but he's not even really
Dolores, Ed, but he's not even really currently at the Nights Watch. Um, he's,
currently at the Nights Watch. Um, he's, you know, at another castle at this
you know, at another castle at this point they're trying to repair. So Jon
point they're trying to repair. So Jon is very isolated, and that becomes very
is very isolated, and that becomes very apparent in the shatter. We also get
apparent in the shatter. We also get some interesting stuff about Val and the
some interesting stuff about Val and the way she views Shireen and Patchface as a
way she views Shireen and Patchface as a whole, saying the child is cursed and
whole, saying the child is cursed and that she should be killed and things
that she should be killed and things like that. It'll be interesting to see
like that. It'll be interesting to see if that plays a part in Shireen's death
if that plays a part in Shireen's death because it does seem like Stannis is
because it does seem like Stannis is going to burn Shireen. Will that have
going to burn Shireen. Will that have some, you know, effect? Um, will Shireen
some, you know, effect? Um, will Shireen cause, you know, this grayscale plague
cause, you know, this grayscale plague type situation? Very interesting
type situation? Very interesting foreshadowing in this chapter about
foreshadowing in this chapter about that. We just don't know fully where
that. We just don't know fully where that's going to go yet. But this kind of
that's going to go yet. But this kind of leads to, in my opinion, the moment when
leads to, in my opinion, the moment when I think Bowen Marsh and a lot of the
I think Bowen Marsh and a lot of the others leaders begin plotting Jon's
others leaders begin plotting Jon's demise because when Jon tells them that
demise because when Jon tells them that they that he's going to let the
they that he's going to let the Wildlings south of the wall for them, it
Wildlings south of the wall for them, it doesn't make any sense, right? Because
doesn't make any sense, right? Because all these issues kind of come to the
all these issues kind of come to the forefront, right? Where you have it like
forefront, right? Where you have it like how are we going to feed them? You know,
how are we going to feed them? You know, how do we trust them to not kill us,
how do we trust them to not kill us, right? They have way more people than we
right? They have way more people than we do. The only thing that gave us any
do. The only thing that gave us any advantage over the Wildlings was the
advantage over the Wildlings was the wall. So what are we going to do when we
wall. So what are we going to do when we have all these wildings south of the
have all these wildings south of the wall? What if one day they just we have
wall? What if one day they just we have a scuttle or some sort of disagreement
a scuttle or some sort of disagreement and they kill us?
and they kill us? And it's again this issue that I think
And it's again this issue that I think it's interesting that George places this
it's interesting that George places this chapter, you know, after we get a Jaime
chapter, you know, after we get a Jaime chapter where we basically this whole
chapter where we basically this whole thing where it's generations of violence
thing where it's generations of violence and hatred. It's the same thing here
and hatred. It's the same thing here with the Wildlings and um the Nights
with the Wildlings and um the Nights Watch. It's like telling the Blackwoods
Watch. It's like telling the Blackwoods and the Brackens, yeah, you're going to,
and the Brackens, yeah, you're going to, you know, go in one castle and you're
you know, go in one castle and you're going to work together. It just wouldn't
going to work together. It just wouldn't work more than likely unless you really
work more than likely unless you really sat down people and figured this all
sat down people and figured this all out. And so, we can understand Jon's
out. And so, we can understand Jon's rationale as to why he decides to bring
rationale as to why he decides to bring the Wildlings out of the wall because of
the Wildlings out of the wall because of course they're all going to die. If they
course they're all going to die. If they stay north of the wall, they're going to
stay north of the wall, they're going to be killed by the others. It's going to
be killed by the others. It's going to add to the other's army and all those
add to the other's army and all those things.
things. So, we can understand John's rationale,
So, we can understand John's rationale, but the problem is John doesn't
but the problem is John doesn't necessarily explain those things that
necessarily explain those things that well to them. He doesn't really make
well to them. He doesn't really make them at least understand or accept what
them at least understand or accept what this whole thing is going to go down,
this whole thing is going to go down, right? Like, like that is my biggest
right? Like, like that is my biggest issue. I've talked about it with John
issue. I've talked about it with John throughout this retrospective is that
throughout this retrospective is that the biggest key issue that Jon has is
the biggest key issue that Jon has is he's not a effective communicator. And
he's not a effective communicator. And I'd almost say he's not an effective
I'd almost say he's not an effective leader at times. He is somebody that I
leader at times. He is somebody that I think has a lot to learn, especially
think has a lot to learn, especially with how to lead men. And that kind of
with how to lead men. And that kind of leads us to the end of the chapter where
leads us to the end of the chapter where Bowen Marsh straight up tells Jon that
Bowen Marsh straight up tells Jon that he believes he's breaking his vows. This
he believes he's breaking his vows. This should be a huge red flag. If you're
should be a huge red flag. If you're John and you have one of your, you know,
John and you have one of your, you know, main uh leaders in Bowen Marsh telling
main uh leaders in Bowen Marsh telling you, and a lot of the other leaders
you, and a lot of the other leaders agree to this, that he's breaking his
agree to this, that he's breaking his vows, what does that say for the people
vows, what does that say for the people that aren't even leaders? you know,
that aren't even leaders? you know, let's say you're a common uh builder or
let's say you're a common uh builder or you're, you know, a ranger or whatever.
you're, you know, a ranger or whatever. You're not even going to have the
You're not even going to have the insight of what these people do. Like
insight of what these people do. Like Bow and Marsh, they don't even
Bow and Marsh, they don't even understand what Jon's doing. How about
understand what Jon's doing. How about some just random, you know, peasant
some just random, you know, peasant that's just recently come to the Nights
that's just recently come to the Nights Watch. You're going to be thinking,
Watch. You're going to be thinking, "What what is this guy doing?" And he's
"What what is this guy doing?" And he's not explaining it. He's not giving any
not explaining it. He's not giving any speeches. He's not explaining to the
speeches. He's not explaining to the vast majority of people here what
vast majority of people here what they're doing.
they're doing. And so Jon I just think makes another
And so Jon I just think makes another mistake in the way that he executes what
mistake in the way that he executes what he's trying to do. But that'll get us to
he's trying to do. But that'll get us to number 55, Cersei 1. And like I talked
number 55, Cersei 1. And like I talked about with Arya and a lot of the other
about with Arya and a lot of the other POVs that have come over from Feast for
POVs that have come over from Feast for Crows,
Crows, I think distinctively when I remember
I think distinctively when I remember first rereading Dance and Feast or
first rereading Dance and Feast or reading them for the first time. You
reading them for the first time. You know, Cersei 1 and Cersei 2 I both have
know, Cersei 1 and Cersei 2 I both have his top 15 chapters of this book. And I
his top 15 chapters of this book. And I would argue that Cersei 1 and Cersei 2
would argue that Cersei 1 and Cersei 2 are two of the best Cersei chapters that
are two of the best Cersei chapters that we ever get in the series. And so saying
we ever get in the series. And so saying that, it's like, okay, how do I look at
that, it's like, okay, how do I look at Feast for Crows? Because I think of
Feast for Crows? Because I think of Feast for Crows, Cersei's plot line is
Feast for Crows, Cersei's plot line is still good, but man, having these two
still good, but man, having these two chapters be in Dance and not Feast
chapters be in Dance and not Feast really like it just hurts Feast as an
really like it just hurts Feast as an overall because Cersei is concluded as
overall because Cersei is concluded as this whole arc in Dance and not Feast
this whole arc in Dance and not Feast for Crows. Like Feast for Crows, it
for Crows. Like Feast for Crows, it still works. She gets captured by the
still works. She gets captured by the faith and all that stuff, but here we
faith and all that stuff, but here we see like, you know, what her actual
see like, you know, what her actual conclusion should be. Her breaking down
conclusion should be. Her breaking down as a character, her going through this
as a character, her going through this traumatic experience of the walk of
traumatic experience of the walk of atonement, all that stuff. But let's
atonement, all that stuff. But let's talk about this chatter specifically.
talk about this chatter specifically. So, again, picking up from where we left
So, again, picking up from where we left off, you know, Cersei has been taken
off, you know, Cersei has been taken hostage by the Faith Militant and the
hostage by the Faith Militant and the High Sparrow. And so slowly we see her
High Sparrow. And so slowly we see her start to whittle away, you know,
start to whittle away, you know, beginning as her normal kind of [ __ ]
beginning as her normal kind of [ __ ] like self more or less. And we see her
like self more or less. And we see her slowly break down as she's being put
slowly break down as she's being put through psychological and physical
through psychological and physical torture, right? They're not letting her
torture, right? They're not letting her sleep every hour they come in asking for
sleep every hour they come in asking for her to or telling her really to confess.
her to or telling her really to confess. And it's Cersei, you know, trying to
And it's Cersei, you know, trying to understand like how much can she endure.
understand like how much can she endure. And you know, when you go from Cersei
And you know, when you go from Cersei one of Feast for Crows to this where,
one of Feast for Crows to this where, you know, you see Cersei basically
you know, you see Cersei basically trying to drink any type of water she
trying to drink any type of water she can just off of the ground, it's Cersei
can just off of the ground, it's Cersei been taken to her lowest. And in a way,
been taken to her lowest. And in a way, you know, Cersei is a character that we
you know, Cersei is a character that we should all dislike, right? Because, you
should all dislike, right? Because, you know, she's a character that was behind,
know, she's a character that was behind, you know, Ned losing in Game of Thrones.
you know, Ned losing in Game of Thrones. and she's done, you know, all sorts of
and she's done, you know, all sorts of horrible things like getting Tyrion
horrible things like getting Tyrion falsely accused and almost killed and
falsely accused and almost killed and that leading to Tywin's death. All this
that leading to Tywin's death. All this different stuff and the way she was to
different stuff and the way she was to Tyrion, for instance, when she was
Tyrion, for instance, when she was younger. But when you see Cersei reduced
younger. But when you see Cersei reduced to this, you know, level of torture and
to this, you know, level of torture and you you can't help but feel bad for her
you you can't help but feel bad for her and especially in the next chapter, I'd
and especially in the next chapter, I'd say specifically, but we see that Cersei
say specifically, but we see that Cersei still has some of her cunning left. you
still has some of her cunning left. you know, she is somebody that is, you know,
know, she is somebody that is, you know, still has an ability to maybe charm
still has an ability to maybe charm people or to lie to people, right? And
people or to lie to people, right? And so, we see her navigating through the
so, we see her navigating through the High Sparrow's accusations now.
High Sparrow's accusations now. Unfortunately for her, the High Sparrow
Unfortunately for her, the High Sparrow is not going to just let her go, right?
is not going to just let her go, right? Because Cersei says some things, yes, I
Because Cersei says some things, yes, I did this, like fortnification, you know,
did this, like fortnification, you know, sleeping out of wedlock, I did those
sleeping out of wedlock, I did those type of things, slept with Lancel, all
type of things, slept with Lancel, all those type of things. But there's other
those type of things. But there's other charges that she has placed on her,
charges that she has placed on her, right? You know, the killing of the king
right? You know, the killing of the king and things like that. And so it's Cersei
and things like that. And so it's Cersei real realizing real realistically that
real realizing real realistically that she doesn't have a way out, right? Kevin
she doesn't have a way out, right? Kevin Lannister who comes to tell her later in
Lannister who comes to tell her later in this chapter as well. It's interesting
this chapter as well. It's interesting seeing them um meet again because you
seeing them um meet again because you think about the last time they were with
think about the last time they were with each other. Cersei basically threw wine
each other. Cersei basically threw wine in his face. So
in his face. So shift of roles here where Kevin has all
shift of roles here where Kevin has all the power and Cersei has none. And Kevin
the power and Cersei has none. And Kevin even tells her the situation. It's not
even tells her the situation. It's not very good. There's cell swords landing.
very good. There's cell swords landing. Uh, there's Myrcella's ear has been cut
Uh, there's Myrcella's ear has been cut off and Aerys's death, Jaime's
off and Aerys's death, Jaime's disappearance. Cersei now knows what she
disappearance. Cersei now knows what she has to do. She must make a walk of
has to do. She must make a walk of atonement. It is the only way forward.
atonement. It is the only way forward. And it's a perfect continuation off of
And it's a perfect continuation off of what we got in Peace for Crows with
what we got in Peace for Crows with Cersei. And so this character that, you
Cersei. And so this character that, you know, was so prideful, now she's brought
know, was so prideful, now she's brought to this where she's so desperate that
to this where she's so desperate that she's willing to, you know, go naked
she's willing to, you know, go naked through the streets of King's Landing.
through the streets of King's Landing. It is a tough thing that's being asked
It is a tough thing that's being asked of Cersei, but she you can't say that
of Cersei, but she you can't say that she doesn't deserve it at least, you
she doesn't deserve it at least, you know, based on the actions that she's
know, based on the actions that she's done. But it's almost like, and the
done. But it's almost like, and the show, I think, did this really well. I
show, I think, did this really well. I think Cersei is a character that was for
think Cersei is a character that was for the most part done pretty well until the
the most part done pretty well until the later seasons, like season seven and
later seasons, like season seven and eight in my opinion, like season six
eight in my opinion, like season six still a great character, is that we is
still a great character, is that we is that George gets us to hate the High
that George gets us to hate the High Sparrow and the Faith Militant and the
Sparrow and the Faith Militant and the Faith more than we do Cersei. It's more
Faith more than we do Cersei. It's more of a uh a lesser evil type situation.
of a uh a lesser evil type situation. And I know it's probably maybe not for
And I know it's probably maybe not for everybody, but I just really enjoy the
everybody, but I just really enjoy the way George crafts Cersei, especially in
way George crafts Cersei, especially in this chapter and especially the next
this chapter and especially the next chapter, but not only do we get Cersei
chapter, but not only do we get Cersei one, right? George just keeps kind of
one, right? George just keeps kind of spitting, right? George is where again
spitting, right? George is where again dance when it hits like around the like
dance when it hits like around the like the late 40s to 50 chapters and and
the late 40s to 50 chapters and and beyond, this is a very strong end to a
beyond, this is a very strong end to a book. Um, it just has a ton of great
book. Um, it just has a ton of great POVs that we get to see the inclusions
POVs that we get to see the inclusions of. And I know Dance isn't a finished
of. And I know Dance isn't a finished like book really. Like it does feel like
like book really. Like it does feel like certain things end very weirdly. Like I
certain things end very weirdly. Like I would say the North plotline I think the
would say the North plotline I think the natural end point of where this book
natural end point of where this book should have been would have been the
should have been would have been the battle of ice and we're not going to see
battle of ice and we're not going to see that till winds of winter. Um, the
that till winds of winter. Um, the battle of fire probably should have
battle of fire probably should have happened in this book. A lot of that
happened in this book. A lot of that comes down to there just wasn't enough
comes down to there just wasn't enough pages and time to do those things. But I
pages and time to do those things. But I really enjoy, you know, some of these
really enjoy, you know, some of these POVs later in the book. Now, Barristan
POVs later in the book. Now, Barristan one. So, getting Barry the Bold um as a
one. So, getting Barry the Bold um as a POV character is something I never
POV character is something I never expected reading the books getting up to
expected reading the books getting up to this point of the story. And it's a
this point of the story. And it's a really nice surprise. Um because
really nice surprise. Um because Barristen really reminds me of Ned.
Barristen really reminds me of Ned. They're very similar characters. Uh even
They're very similar characters. Uh even when you read Barristen, he's always he
when you read Barristen, he's always he seems to be on like Ned's side, for
seems to be on like Ned's side, for instance, and in terms of policies and
instance, and in terms of policies and stuff like that in Game of Thrones. And
stuff like that in Game of Thrones. And so I really love Barrison trying to
so I really love Barrison trying to navigate this Marinese plotline, this
navigate this Marinese plotline, this political situation because even
political situation because even Daenerys struggles with that a ton and
Daenerys struggles with that a ton and Daenerys is a much better I would say
Daenerys is a much better I would say politician than someone like Barristan.
politician than someone like Barristan. Barrist tries his best but we see the
Barrist tries his best but we see the situation after Daenerys has left where
situation after Daenerys has left where his daughters are making a lot of
his daughters are making a lot of questionable decisions. It seems like
questionable decisions. It seems like he's getting very buddy buddy with the
he's getting very buddy buddy with the Junkish and the slavers. He's also
Junkish and the slavers. He's also putting away all of Daenerys's support.
putting away all of Daenerys's support. Everyone that was here that was in
Everyone that was here that was in positions of power before have been
positions of power before have been stripped of that power. Scahasa's the
stripped of that power. Scahasa's the shave page has been displaced at this
shave page has been displaced at this time. Barristan is kind of the last
time. Barristan is kind of the last person to get displaced, but all of
person to get displaced, but all of Daenerys's staunchest allies like strong
Daenerys's staunchest allies like strong Belellis is gone. Missande, you know,
Belellis is gone. Missande, you know, she's not here to announce his DAR. All
she's not here to announce his DAR. All of the people that were kind of
of the people that were kind of supporting, you know, Daenerys are gone,
supporting, you know, Daenerys are gone, or they're at least not gone, I guess,
or they're at least not gone, I guess, but they're not in power anymore. And so
but they're not in power anymore. And so we see his DAR kind of solidifying his
we see his DAR kind of solidifying his power, putting people he trusts behind
power, putting people he trusts behind him. Now, another thing I think is
him. Now, another thing I think is interesting, you think about this is,
interesting, you think about this is, okay, like I just talked about,
okay, like I just talked about, everybody from, you know, Daenerys's
everybody from, you know, Daenerys's former councils and people that she
former councils and people that she trusted are gone except Resnack, someone
trusted are gone except Resnack, someone that obviously went against Daenerys and
that obviously went against Daenerys and multiple policies. I did a whole video
multiple policies. I did a whole video basically on Resnak as a character in
basically on Resnak as a character in that video I did uh two weeks ago, I
that video I did uh two weeks ago, I believe. Um, but yeah, I just find it
believe. Um, but yeah, I just find it very interesting to see how Barry go how
very interesting to see how Barry go how Barrison goes about doing all these
Barrison goes about doing all these things as we see people thinking that
things as we see people thinking that Daenerys may have left them or even is
Daenerys may have left them or even is dead as there's been multiple rumors
dead as there's been multiple rumors going on but at this time we see a
going on but at this time we see a meeting between Sky and Barrist and it
meeting between Sky and Barrist and it feels very Ned and Littlefinger like
feels very Ned and Littlefinger like Skahasa almost seems to be taunting
Skahasa almost seems to be taunting Barrist at multiple times you know
Barrist at multiple times you know suggesting maybe Barrist will be a slave
suggesting maybe Barrist will be a slave at one point and all these things and
at one point and all these things and you know we see Scahaz's point of view
you know we see Scahaz's point of view and Barristan is really backed into the
and Barristan is really backed into the situation where all of the evidence does
situation where all of the evidence does seem to you know prove that Hisdar
seem to you know prove that Hisdar should not be on the throne. He's been
should not be on the throne. He's been making some sketchy things going on. But
making some sketchy things going on. But the problem is and the issue that
the problem is and the issue that Barrison's going to face in my opinion
Barrison's going to face in my opinion is who really can you trust? You
is who really can you trust? You definitely can't trust the Scahas the
definitely can't trust the Scahas the shave bait which Barrison doesn't but
shave bait which Barrison doesn't but you also can't really trust Resnack and
you also can't really trust Resnack and also his either. So you're left in the
also his either. So you're left in the situation where Barrison kind of takes
situation where Barrison kind of takes power off the back of both the Unsullied
power off the back of both the Unsullied and um Scahas. And so we see that all
and um Scahas. And so we see that all playing out. Now that's going to play
playing out. Now that's going to play out in, you know, a future chapter. But
out in, you know, a future chapter. But I really love the introduction of
I really love the introduction of Barrist. I think the knowledge that he
Barrist. I think the knowledge that he has, one of the reasons I'm a big
has, one of the reasons I'm a big proponent for Barrison not dying at the
proponent for Barrison not dying at the very beginning of the next book is
very beginning of the next book is because we could learn so much through
because we could learn so much through him. If George wants to expand the war
him. If George wants to expand the war of the nine penny kings or expanding,
of the nine penny kings or expanding, you know, the reigns of Targaryen kings
you know, the reigns of Targaryen kings that Barrison was serving under, you
that Barrison was serving under, you know, Barrison's the perfect character
know, Barrison's the perfect character to do that. And so, I love Barrist. Uh,
to do that. And so, I love Barrist. Uh, hope we get more of him in Winds of
hope we get more of him in Winds of Winter. Um, but yeah, that gets us to
Winter. Um, but yeah, that gets us to number 57, Victarion one. Again,
number 57, Victarion one. Again, Victarion, our lovable, bloodthirsty
Victarion, our lovable, bloodthirsty idiot Greyjoy. I can't help but say I
idiot Greyjoy. I can't help but say I really had fun reading his chapters in
really had fun reading his chapters in the Dance of Dragons. There's a lot of
the Dance of Dragons. There's a lot of chapters I didn't really have that much
chapters I didn't really have that much fun with reading. Like for instance, a
fun with reading. Like for instance, a lot of Tyrion and Quentyn chapters, you
lot of Tyrion and Quentyn chapters, you know, come to mind or even some of
know, come to mind or even some of Daenerys's lower end chapters, but
Daenerys's lower end chapters, but Victarion is just a fun character to
Victarion is just a fun character to read. He's not the best POV of this
read. He's not the best POV of this book. He's not even close to that in my
book. He's not even close to that in my opinion, but it's just fun to read the
opinion, but it's just fun to read the way his mind works, right? We see how
way his mind works, right? We see how the crossing has worked as it's been
the crossing has worked as it's been pretty costly. Um, Victarion currently
pretty costly. Um, Victarion currently is at the aisle of Cedars with less than
is at the aisle of Cedars with less than half the fleet that had left the Reach.
half the fleet that had left the Reach. He's kind of in a sticky situation,
He's kind of in a sticky situation, right? Because he traveled all this way
right? Because he traveled all this way to Essos and now he's lost about half of
to Essos and now he's lost about half of his fleet. But he can't wait any longer.
his fleet. But he can't wait any longer. The slavers are going for Marine and
The slavers are going for Marine and taking down Daenerys. He's even more
taking down Daenerys. He's even more worried because when they stopped in
worried because when they stopped in Volantis, he saw the ships. There was
Volantis, he saw the ships. There was anywhere from 300 to 500 ships, which
anywhere from 300 to 500 ships, which dwarfs the size of Victarion's fleet,
dwarfs the size of Victarion's fleet, even though Victarons are probably
even though Victarons are probably better manned um and all that stuff. But
better manned um and all that stuff. But Victarion doesn't have the strength to
Victarion doesn't have the strength to to to rival them. But we also saw
to to rival them. But we also saw something else is bothering Victarion as
something else is bothering Victarion as his hand has continued to fester and it
his hand has continued to fester and it seems infected. And the maesters,
seems infected. And the maesters, they've tried or at least the maester
they've tried or at least the maester that he has and it was given by Euron
that he has and it was given by Euron hasn't helped whatsoever. And so Victor
hasn't helped whatsoever. And so Victor kills him as as in this chapter we also
kills him as as in this chapter we also find Muarro who we haven't seen from
find Muarro who we haven't seen from Tyrion uh when they were back on the
Tyrion uh when they were back on the ship together. Muarro does some quite
ship together. Muarro does some quite interesting things here because when
interesting things here because when Muaro tries to heal Verion's hand. We
Muaro tries to heal Verion's hand. We don't see what happens inside, but it
don't see what happens inside, but it does sound a lot like Mary Mazdur's like
does sound a lot like Mary Mazdur's like ceremony with Drogo in the tent back in
ceremony with Drogo in the tent back in book one with Dany because it seems like
book one with Dany because it seems like there's shadows dancing and all these
there's shadows dancing and all these things. And when Victarion comes out, he
things. And when Victarion comes out, he has this almost black charred looking
has this almost black charred looking arm or hand, but it seems more powerful
arm or hand, but it seems more powerful and it seems very interesting. Aquaro
and it seems very interesting. Aquaro must have used some sort of fire magic
must have used some sort of fire magic andor I assume maybe blood magic. And so
andor I assume maybe blood magic. And so Victarion gets rid of the maester. And
Victarion gets rid of the maester. And this is how we kind of end Victarion 1,
this is how we kind of end Victarion 1, but I really think Victarion 1's a fun
but I really think Victarion 1's a fun chapter. It's not the best chapter or
chapter. It's not the best chapter or anything. This is probably where Dance
anything. This is probably where Dance Dragons gets to its highest point. I
Dragons gets to its highest point. I would also say a little bit of uh last
would also say a little bit of uh last video as well. I think that A Dance
video as well. I think that A Dance Dragons really hits its strides later on
Dragons really hits its strides later on in the book. Um, and so it really hits
in the book. Um, and so it really hits the big parts of it later. Whereas a lot
the big parts of it later. Whereas a lot of other books maybe it's not as similar
of other books maybe it's not as similar to that. Like for instance, Storm of
to that. Like for instance, Storm of Swords throughout its big high moments.
Swords throughout its big high moments. A Feast for Crows is really good for
A Feast for Crows is really good for certain characters at very different
certain characters at very different parts of the story. So for instance,
parts of the story. So for instance, characters like Cersei, she's really
characters like Cersei, she's really good at the beginning, very good at the
good at the beginning, very good at the end. I think the middle is kind of where
end. I think the middle is kind of where she's kind of eh of dragons very much
she's kind of eh of dragons very much falls into the category of the longer
falls into the category of the longer you read into this book I think the
you read into this book I think the better it gets because you get away from
better it gets because you get away from all of the Tyrion stuff all the Quentyn
all of the Tyrion stuff all the Quentyn stuff you start having less of those
stuff you start having less of those POVs and the POVs that are kind of you
POVs and the POVs that are kind of you know they hover around being okay start
know they hover around being okay start to become great like Daenerys and like
to become great like Daenerys and like you know I think Jon has a lot of his
you know I think Jon has a lot of his better chapters towards the very end of
better chapters towards the very end of the book Barriston gets introduced at
the book Barriston gets introduced at the very end of this book but let's get
the very end of this book but let's get into the first chapter of today's video.
into the first chapter of today's video. Chapter 58, Tyrion 11. Now, again, at
Chapter 58, Tyrion 11. Now, again, at this point of the story, Tyrion is a POV
this point of the story, Tyrion is a POV I dread reading because when you think
I dread reading because when you think about what I just said, all the other
about what I just said, all the other plot lines are starting to really get to
plot lines are starting to really get to the meat of their plots. You know, we're
the meat of their plots. You know, we're getting towards the very end of the
getting towards the very end of the book. Tyrion is just a character that I
book. Tyrion is just a character that I haven't really liked his plotline since
haven't really liked his plotline since he leaves Young Griff. That's a lot of
he leaves Young Griff. That's a lot of what the I think the community thinks as
what the I think the community thinks as well. But for me personally, I didn't
well. But for me personally, I didn't enjoy much of this Tyrion chapter. I I
enjoy much of this Tyrion chapter. I I don't think it's his worst chapter by
don't think it's his worst chapter by any means or, you know, one of his worst
any means or, you know, one of his worst because I think at least the back half
because I think at least the back half of the chapter makes up for it and is
of the chapter makes up for it and is actually some of the better stuff of
actually some of the better stuff of especially the plot line where Tyrion's
especially the plot line where Tyrion's at Marine specifically. But we see
at Marine specifically. But we see Tyrion more or less the beginning of
Tyrion more or less the beginning of this chapter is we're just seeing how
this chapter is we're just seeing how the flux has destroyed the slavers more
the flux has destroyed the slavers more or less. You have Tyrion, Penny, and
or less. You have Tyrion, Penny, and Jorah's master who is basically dying.
Jorah's master who is basically dying. They're going to try and get some water
They're going to try and get some water for him. That's at least what Tyrion
for him. That's at least what Tyrion tells them. But in fact, Tyrion is not
tells them. But in fact, Tyrion is not going to do that whatsoever. He's going
going to do that whatsoever. He's going to take Penny and Jorah to the second
to take Penny and Jorah to the second sons. He's going to try and join their
sons. He's going to try and join their company because he knows, for instance,
company because he knows, for instance, that Brown Ben Plum knows who he is. So,
that Brown Ben Plum knows who he is. So, he thinks that maybe he can sway them to
he thinks that maybe he can sway them to go to Taenerys's side. So, then that'll
go to Taenerys's side. So, then that'll more or less get him to where he needed
more or less get him to where he needed to be. And he gets out of slavery of
to be. And he gets out of slavery of course and also a slave master who liked
course and also a slave master who liked very special or unique individuals I
very special or unique individuals I should say I guess is the terminology
should say I guess is the terminology you would say for this master that
you would say for this master that Tyrion has when he dies well they're
Tyrion has when he dies well they're more than likely probably going to be
more than likely probably going to be killed. And so when we get into you know
killed. And so when we get into you know this part of it where we get to Brown
this part of it where we get to Brown Ben Plum that's where this chapter
Ben Plum that's where this chapter actually gets interesting because you
actually gets interesting because you have an interesting character like Brown
have an interesting character like Brown Ben Plum. You have the second sons who
Ben Plum. You have the second sons who we know a bit from Daenerys's arc.
we know a bit from Daenerys's arc. There's also another interesting part of
There's also another interesting part of this that you might not catch on your
this that you might not catch on your first read. something I never caught on
first read. something I never caught on my first read in Dance Dragons and I
my first read in Dance Dragons and I noticed as I went back and reread it um
noticed as I went back and reread it um you know a few years ago, but there is
you know a few years ago, but there is this moment right where you do see like
this moment right where you do see like Tyrion and Penny jousting in the actual
Tyrion and Penny jousting in the actual Daenerys chapter where she you know
Daenerys chapter where she you know rides Drogon and there's this part of it
rides Drogon and there's this part of it where they were actually going to send
where they were actually going to send Lions to more or less kill Tyrion and
Lions to more or less kill Tyrion and Penny and that's something that Penny
Penny and that's something that Penny doesn't know but Tyrion does
doesn't know but Tyrion does subconsciously know that they got lucky
subconsciously know that they got lucky that they were basically being thrown
that they were basically being thrown out there to be butchered. So that kind
out there to be butchered. So that kind of plays into Tyrion's mind as well in
of plays into Tyrion's mind as well in betraying I guess the slavers which I
betraying I guess the slavers which I mean they're slaves like yeah they
mean they're slaves like yeah they should get their freedom but still in
should get their freedom but still in terms of the the interesting part of
terms of the the interesting part of this chapter it really just is the
this chapter it really just is the flipped the second sons the interactions
flipped the second sons the interactions that Tyrion has with a character like
that Tyrion has with a character like Brown Ben Plum and all of this has been
Brown Ben Plum and all of this has been set up like it doesn't come out of
set up like it doesn't come out of nowhere the right the last chapter we
nowhere the right the last chapter we saw with Tyrion we saw him playing Sas
saw with Tyrion we saw him playing Sas with Brown Ben Plum and foreshadowing
with Brown Ben Plum and foreshadowing all of the things that are going to come
all of the things that are going to come next but yeah so Again, not a crazy
next but yeah so Again, not a crazy Tyrion chapter. There's some decent
Tyrion chapter. There's some decent things in it. There's some like eh it
things in it. There's some like eh it just feels like I we don't really need
just feels like I we don't really need more of this. And that's kind of been my
more of this. And that's kind of been my big complaint with Tyrion is I think,
big complaint with Tyrion is I think, you know, for him having 12 chapters
you know, for him having 12 chapters as that character. He doesn't do a whole
as that character. He doesn't do a whole lot in this book outside of just
lot in this book outside of just traveling. He should have been
traveling. He should have been significantly cut down in my opinion.
significantly cut down in my opinion. But yeah, Tyrion, in my opinion, only
But yeah, Tyrion, in my opinion, only serves to basically slow the pace down
serves to basically slow the pace down of the book at this point of the book.
of the book at this point of the book. And so, yeah, I don't have a lot to say
And so, yeah, I don't have a lot to say about Tyrion, especially at this part of
about Tyrion, especially at this part of the book. Let's just move on to kind of
the book. Let's just move on to kind of better things in my opinion. In John 12
better things in my opinion. In John 12 and chapter 59, we we have kind of a a
and chapter 59, we we have kind of a a very interesting but weird and 100%
very interesting but weird and 100% necessary chapter. It's not one of
necessary chapter. It's not one of John's best chapters by any means, as
John's best chapters by any means, as we're seeing the wildlings come south of
we're seeing the wildlings come south of the wall. Uh, and mainly we see Jon and
the wall. Uh, and mainly we see Jon and Tormund together as they're crossing the
Tormund together as they're crossing the wall. And this chapter builds a lot of
wall. And this chapter builds a lot of the the tension going on, right? This
the the tension going on, right? This has never been be done before really
has never been be done before really where the wildlings are willingly being
where the wildlings are willingly being allowed to come through the wall and
allowed to come through the wall and you're seeing how the black brothers are
you're seeing how the black brothers are very begrudgingly going with Jon's
very begrudgingly going with Jon's orders. And so most of the chapter fills
orders. And so most of the chapter fills up with this time of Tormund and Jon
up with this time of Tormund and Jon watching as the wildlings have to give
watching as the wildlings have to give up hostages, treasures, and cross
up hostages, treasures, and cross through the wall. It is really good
through the wall. It is really good setup to I think the next chapter that
setup to I think the next chapter that we're going to actually see and and more
we're going to actually see and and more of the reasoning as to why Jon is
of the reasoning as to why Jon is killed. A lot of it focuses on this
killed. A lot of it focuses on this chapter specifically. And so this
chapter specifically. And so this chapter in of itself is extremely
chapter in of itself is extremely consequential to I would say the rest of
consequential to I would say the rest of the story because you're going to have a
the story because you're going to have a wildlink force that at any point could
wildlink force that at any point could attack the Night's Watch if things went
attack the Night's Watch if things went arry like Jon being killed. And I think
arry like Jon being killed. And I think what's even more interesting is we we do
what's even more interesting is we we do get this very dark this seems like a
get this very dark this seems like a very forboding letter that he gets from
very forboding letter that he gets from Cotterpike that things are not going
Cotterpike that things are not going well at Hardome. There seems to be some
well at Hardome. There seems to be some mysterious other force that might be
mysterious other force that might be there. There seems like again like what
there. There seems like again like what we see in the television show, something
we see in the television show, something along those those lines may be happening
along those those lines may be happening at at Hardome. And we even get Tormund
at at Hardome. And we even get Tormund kind of describing the others and how
kind of describing the others and how they come, how the cold comes, and they
they come, how the cold comes, and they pick you off little by little. They're
pick you off little by little. They're never too far behind. Again, for for
never too far behind. Again, for for John in this late of the book, it's not
John in this late of the book, it's not a bad chapter whatsoever. It's just not
a bad chapter whatsoever. It's just not really like a standout chapter of
really like a standout chapter of John's. It it's one of those that is
John's. It it's one of those that is very much there to set up for John's big
very much there to set up for John's big chapters in terms of like his death, for
chapters in terms of like his death, for instance, in the pink letter chapter.
instance, in the pink letter chapter. This isn't very influential there. But
This isn't very influential there. But again, it's a it's a chapter that's
again, it's a it's a chapter that's building things. And that's what a lot
building things. And that's what a lot of these middle kind of chapters have
of these middle kind of chapters have felt like for Jon where they're building
felt like for Jon where they're building things to become. Getting into number
things to become. Getting into number 60, Barristan 2. This chapter is kind of
60, Barristan 2. This chapter is kind of a slight downgrade in my as I mentioned
a slight downgrade in my as I mentioned for my first one as the as the material
for my first one as the as the material just isn't I think as interesting as his
just isn't I think as interesting as his first chapter but what we do see is
first chapter but what we do see is still very interesting right he's he's
still very interesting right he's he's watching as his Dar is holding court and
watching as his Dar is holding court and the relations with the Junish which are
the relations with the Junish which are growing worse as they bring back Groio's
growing worse as they bring back Groio's head since the commander of the Junkish
head since the commander of the Junkish died during the fighting pit incident.
died during the fighting pit incident. Now, if you don't remember, Groio
Now, if you don't remember, Groio basically was the admiral for Daenerys's
basically was the admiral for Daenerys's quote unquote fleet that she didn't
quote unquote fleet that she didn't really even have anymore. So, it's
really even have anymore. So, it's interesting because you see how if
interesting because you see how if Daenerys was here, Daenerys would have
Daenerys was here, Daenerys would have handled things differently, maybe would
handled things differently, maybe would have gone for more of a direct action,
have gone for more of a direct action, would have openly gone against the
would have openly gone against the Junish. We see Hizdar trying to appease
Junish. We see Hizdar trying to appease them. We see Hizdar, you know, not being
them. We see Hizdar, you know, not being very firm. He's very pliable, it would
very firm. He's very pliable, it would appear, and very bendable, right? And so
appear, and very bendable, right? And so it kind of gets people like Barristan
it kind of gets people like Barristan thinking like okay is Hisdar in league
thinking like okay is Hisdar in league with the Junish does he want slavery to
with the Junish does he want slavery to return and all these things and that's
return and all these things and that's what gets those gears turning right when
what gets those gears turning right when you see things along those lines. I will
you see things along those lines. I will say I think the more interesting part of
say I think the more interesting part of this chapter though is how we get the
this chapter though is how we get the stuff with Quentyn and thank god it's
stuff with Quentyn and thank god it's through Barrison's eyes and not
through Barrison's eyes and not Quentyn's because Barrison's actually an
Quentyn's because Barrison's actually an interesting POV. But, you know, you have
interesting POV. But, you know, you have another part of this that I think is is
another part of this that I think is is fascinating because the Dornishman, even
fascinating because the Dornishman, even after Daenerys has left, they're staying
after Daenerys has left, they're staying at court. They're making their presence
at court. They're making their presence still known. That's something that's
still known. That's something that's going to get the attention of Hizdar,
going to get the attention of Hizdar, right? This guy comes, you know, wanting
right? This guy comes, you know, wanting your wife's hand. You are going to
your wife's hand. You are going to become a political rival. And you also
become a political rival. And you also think about something else. You think
think about something else. You think about these hostages that are coming
about these hostages that are coming back and things that make Hizdar look
back and things that make Hizdar look worse is that all of the hostages that
worse is that all of the hostages that are returned are ones that are related
are returned are ones that are related to the king. They're the ones that would
to the king. They're the ones that would be important to the king and none of
be important to the king and none of them are the ones the queen would have
them are the ones the queen would have wanted. So for instance, people like
wanted. So for instance, people like like Daario or Hero the the unsullied.
like Daario or Hero the the unsullied. Those people are not returned. And so
Those people are not returned. And so again, it makes you feel like, okay,
again, it makes you feel like, okay, this is a little too suspect. His
this is a little too suspect. His getting all the people he cares about
getting all the people he cares about back, but none but none of Daenerys's.
back, but none but none of Daenerys's. Very interesting the way those things
Very interesting the way those things work out. But either way, Ferrison tells
work out. But either way, Ferrison tells the Dornishmen that they need to leave.
the Dornishmen that they need to leave. They have been noticed by the king and
They have been noticed by the king and he urges them to flee, but they seem not
he urges them to flee, but they seem not to listen to their own doom. And this is
to listen to their own doom. And this is going to set up some of the coming
going to set up some of the coming chapters, right, with Quentyn trying to
chapters, right, with Quentyn trying to free a dragon, going to find um the
free a dragon, going to find um the tattered prince, all this stuff that
tattered prince, all this stuff that it doesn't go particularly well. And
it doesn't go particularly well. And that kind of leads us to chapter 61,
that kind of leads us to chapter 61, which unfortunately, again, this video
which unfortunately, again, this video has not had the best start, right? We've
has not had the best start, right? We've had two of the worst plot lines of the
had two of the worst plot lines of the book and two pretty, you know, I I would
book and two pretty, you know, I I would say middle ground chapters with
say middle ground chapters with Barriston and Jon, but I promise it does
Barriston and Jon, but I promise it does get better. Quentyn 3 and chapter 61 to
get better. Quentyn 3 and chapter 61 to me is not as bad as his chapters before.
me is not as bad as his chapters before. Um, you know, his chapters before, they
Um, you know, his chapters before, they lacked a lot of focus. They lacked a lot
lacked a lot of focus. They lacked a lot of meaning in my opinion. Like, why did
of meaning in my opinion. Like, why did we necessarily need these chapters? Uh,
we necessarily need these chapters? Uh, also those chapters had a a lot a lot of
also those chapters had a a lot a lot of con convenience that again convenience
con convenience that again convenience isn't always a bad thing, right? But it
isn't always a bad thing, right? But it felt like, okay, this is a little bit
felt like, okay, this is a little bit overbelievability
overbelievability and Quentyn 3 isn't that at all. Quentyn
and Quentyn 3 isn't that at all. Quentyn 3 is all about setting up this dragon
3 is all about setting up this dragon tamer plotline that we're going to see
tamer plotline that we're going to see in Quentyn 4. And so I think that it
in Quentyn 4. And so I think that it does a decent job of building up some of
does a decent job of building up some of that tension and showing how really
that tension and showing how really inexperienced Quentyn is as a man and
inexperienced Quentyn is as a man and trying to be some politically
trying to be some politically maneuvering person and how he deals with
maneuvering person and how he deals with like for instance the tattered prince.
like for instance the tattered prince. And so I do think that in terms of if
And so I do think that in terms of if you look at like the lower Tyrion
you look at like the lower Tyrion chapters and the lower Quentyn chapters,
chapters and the lower Quentyn chapters, this chapter is definitely above those,
this chapter is definitely above those, right? It's definitely more of a middle
right? It's definitely more of a middle ground of the bad chapters. like this is
ground of the bad chapters. like this is still a chapter I'm going to rank in my
still a chapter I'm going to rank in my bottom 20 of the book, but it's not as
bottom 20 of the book, but it's not as glaringly bad. There is a purpose to
glaringly bad. There is a purpose to this chapter, right? Because you need to
this chapter, right? Because you need to understand how is Quentyn going to be
understand how is Quentyn going to be able to break out this dragon. He has to
able to break out this dragon. He has to have some sort of support. And for that
have some sort of support. And for that support to happen, he also has to give
support to happen, he also has to give something up. And so I think it also
something up. And so I think it also plays in really well with, you know,
plays in really well with, you know, Daenerys and how she's telling Quentyn,
Daenerys and how she's telling Quentyn, you know, you should fear the dragons
you know, you should fear the dragons and all these things and all that. And
and all these things and all that. And really Quentyn almost takes the opposite
really Quentyn almost takes the opposite view. He goes, "Oh, wait. My key to this
view. He goes, "Oh, wait. My key to this is let me get a dragon.
is let me get a dragon. You see the desperation that's kind of
You see the desperation that's kind of building up with Quentyn. And so I think
building up with Quentyn. And so I think of all the chapters so far that we've
of all the chapters so far that we've gotten of Quentyn, this one does the
gotten of Quentyn, this one does the best of actually giving him some part of
best of actually giving him some part of a character that's interesting. And so I
a character that's interesting. And so I do I do like this character of Quentyn
do I do like this character of Quentyn being forced into position where he's
being forced into position where he's uncomfortable. He's very uncomfortable
uncomfortable. He's very uncomfortable with the situation having doing these
with the situation having doing these shady tactics, meeting the tattered
shady tactics, meeting the tattered prince in this very not wellestablished
prince in this very not wellestablished place where it feels like they could be
place where it feels like they could be killed at any point. There is a lot more
killed at any point. There is a lot more of that. There's actually more, you
of that. There's actually more, you know, meaning to this chap that makes it
know, meaning to this chap that makes it have a reason to be here. Unfortunately,
have a reason to be here. Unfortunately, I still don't like Quentyn as a
I still don't like Quentyn as a character. So, this chapter does get
character. So, this chapter does get ranked a bit lower for me because I
ranked a bit lower for me because I don't really like him all that much. But
don't really like him all that much. But more or less what happens in this
more or less what happens in this chapter, it's pretty quick, but Quentyn
chapter, it's pretty quick, but Quentyn decides to meet with the tattered prince
decides to meet with the tattered prince to attempt to hire them in the
to attempt to hire them in the windblown. And I do find again the
windblown. And I do find again the tattered prince is more interesting than
tattered prince is more interesting than Quentyn and he's not a POV character. We
Quentyn and he's not a POV character. We haven't even seen him all that much. But
haven't even seen him all that much. But I'm more interested in him as a
I'm more interested in him as a character. And so when we get that
character. And so when we get that character, you know, on the book page, I
character, you know, on the book page, I enjoy, you know, reading that character
enjoy, you know, reading that character and trying to figure out what his game
and trying to figure out what his game is. and he asks for Pentos. And that's
is. and he asks for Pentos. And that's something that Quentyn does begrudgingly
something that Quentyn does begrudgingly agree with. Albeit, how does that
agree with. Albeit, how does that actually occur? Still kind of left up in
actually occur? Still kind of left up in the air. But either way, Quentyn by the
the air. But either way, Quentyn by the end of this chapter does have his
end of this chapter does have his support to try and take dragon. So yeah,
support to try and take dragon. So yeah, not a bad chapter in terms of, you know,
not a bad chapter in terms of, you know, some of the other stuff we've gotten um
some of the other stuff we've gotten um in this book for the main worst POV
in this book for the main worst POV Tyrion and Quentin. No, nothing great.
Tyrion and Quentin. No, nothing great. But this is where I think you have you
But this is where I think you have you see some of that classic
see some of that classic George knows where to place chapter. You
George knows where to place chapter. You know, coming off of, you know, a not so
know, coming off of, you know, a not so great Tyrion chapter, a not so great
great Tyrion chapter, a not so great Quentyn chapter. He puts Quentyn 3 in
Quentyn chapter. He puts Quentyn 3 in between Barristen, who at this point of
between Barristen, who at this point of the story is probably one of the most
the story is probably one of the most entertaining POVs, one of the most
entertaining POVs, one of the most interesting to read with also one of the
interesting to read with also one of the best chapters of the book. So, George
best chapters of the book. So, George came back spitting. That's literally
came back spitting. That's literally what I have in my notes here. Like I
what I have in my notes here. Like I have the John Con uh 2 chapter ranked
have the John Con uh 2 chapter ranked number 16, which is really high praise
number 16, which is really high praise given how many Theon chapters I have up
given how many Theon chapters I have up here, you know, with the likes of
here, you know, with the likes of Cersei's chapters, you know, the
Cersei's chapters, you know, the epilogue in here, some of John's best
epilogue in here, some of John's best chapters. High praise, right? to be
chapters. High praise, right? to be especially again with Dance with
especially again with Dance with Dragons, if you're in the top 20, that
Dragons, if you're in the top 20, that means you have a very good chapter
means you have a very good chapter because what Dance of Dragons does
because what Dance of Dragons does really well is it has really great
really well is it has really great top-end chapters, but also has really
top-end chapters, but also has really low-end chapters. It doesn't have a lot
low-end chapters. It doesn't have a lot of that middle ground like say Feast for
of that middle ground like say Feast for Crows does, right? And so to be in the
Crows does, right? And so to be in the top 20 means you have a fantastic
top 20 means you have a fantastic chapter. And I I really want to, you
chapter. And I I really want to, you know, say that with John Khan, you know,
know, say that with John Khan, you know, both of his chapters I have ranked
both of his chapters I have ranked within my top 16. He has both of his
within my top 16. He has both of his chapters are top chapters of this book.
chapters are top chapters of this book. And thank God uh he decided to give us
And thank God uh he decided to give us John Khan right after Quentyn as we see
John Khan right after Quentyn as we see the Golden Company land and try to take
the Golden Company land and try to take Rook's rest which is surprisingly easy.
Rook's rest which is surprisingly easy. It tells you how unprepared Westeros
It tells you how unprepared Westeros really is. But it also tells you, yeah,
really is. But it also tells you, yeah, like if a force comes over from Essos,
like if a force comes over from Essos, the response time might be very delayed,
the response time might be very delayed, especially when you're thinking about,
especially when you're thinking about, you know, the Golden Company hasn't come
you know, the Golden Company hasn't come over to Westeros in a number of years.
over to Westeros in a number of years. There isn't, you know, it seems like any
There isn't, you know, it seems like any reason for them to do so. There's no
reason for them to do so. There's no male Blackfires that are are known at
male Blackfires that are are known at this time or even female Blackfires are
this time or even female Blackfires are known at this time. So, you do see a
known at this time. So, you do see a reason as to why this all goes
reason as to why this all goes efficiently. You see the Golden Company,
efficiently. You see the Golden Company, albeit I think they're not as good as
albeit I think they're not as good as they once were, say under Bittersteel,
they once were, say under Bittersteel, because I think they have been a little
because I think they have been a little bit more laxed and especially under
bit more laxed and especially under Harry Strickland at the leader of the
Harry Strickland at the leader of the Golden Company, still shows how great
Golden Company, still shows how great they truly are, right? Not letting birds
they truly are, right? Not letting birds get out, taking the castle efficiently,
get out, taking the castle efficiently, barely even losing anyone. They only
barely even losing anyone. They only lose four men in the taking of an entire
lose four men in the taking of an entire castle that was John Conington's home.
castle that was John Conington's home. It feels a lot like, in my opinion, you
It feels a lot like, in my opinion, you know, Theon coming back to Winterfell.
know, Theon coming back to Winterfell. John Khan is seeing kind of ghosts. He
John Khan is seeing kind of ghosts. He talks about this this one moment where
talks about this this one moment where he and Rhaegar kind of talked about his
he and Rhaegar kind of talked about his lands and things like that and how it
lands and things like that and how it kind of seems like John Khan definitely
kind of seems like John Khan definitely had a little bit of a crush on Rhaegar,
had a little bit of a crush on Rhaegar, but it kind of brings back his youth. It
but it kind of brings back his youth. It brings up John Conington's past, the
brings up John Conington's past, the things that he did during Robert's
things that he did during Robert's rebellion. It brings up kind of his
rebellion. It brings up kind of his failings where he could not find Robert
failings where he could not find Robert in the Battle of the Bells. Again, it
in the Battle of the Bells. Again, it really reminds me of Theon in this book
really reminds me of Theon in this book as well, where Theon goes back to
as well, where Theon goes back to Winterfell and he remembers his past
Winterfell and he remembers his past misdeeds when he took the castle and
misdeeds when he took the castle and betraying Rob. It brings up all these
betraying Rob. It brings up all these fascinating, interesting topics to
fascinating, interesting topics to explore for a character. And then how
explore for a character. And then how does that actually motivate them going
does that actually motivate them going into the future? We get this even
into the future? We get this even further because John Khan, who's someone
further because John Khan, who's someone that isn't like Tywin, or at least
that isn't like Tywin, or at least wasn't in his younger years, he knows
wasn't in his younger years, he knows that if he would have burned the village
that if he would have burned the village to a crisp, he would have found Robert's
to a crisp, he would have found Robert's bones after. He he thinks about this
bones after. He he thinks about this idea that maybe he should be more like
idea that maybe he should be more like Taiwan. That's very interesting when you
Taiwan. That's very interesting when you think about John Khan's position, right?
think about John Khan's position, right? He's the hand of the king, you know,
He's the hand of the king, you know, he's somebody in a very prominent
he's somebody in a very prominent position, the main backing for young
position, the main backing for young griff to be king. you know, will he
griff to be king. you know, will he become more like Taiwan if he's faced
become more like Taiwan if he's faced with situations, you know, should he be
with situations, you know, should he be more cruel, but maybe it's not as
more cruel, but maybe it's not as honorable and things like that, but it
honorable and things like that, but it gets the job done. Should he do those
gets the job done. Should he do those things? And I find that to be a very
things? And I find that to be a very fascinating part of John Conington. And
fascinating part of John Conington. And I think we'll probably explore that to
I think we'll probably explore that to some extent given the future uh of John
some extent given the future uh of John Conington. But John Conington also
Conington. But John Conington also thinks and speaks on his plans in the
thinks and speaks on his plans in the Stormlands and and Westeros as a whole
Stormlands and and Westeros as a whole and how he wants to really take Storm's
and how he wants to really take Storm's End. That is a place that will gain them
End. That is a place that will gain them a lot of respect. They won't be seen as
a lot of respect. They won't be seen as just some foreign invaders to not be
just some foreign invaders to not be taken seriously. They take Storm's End.
taken seriously. They take Storm's End. They may find more allies, specifically
They may find more allies, specifically in places like the Reach, for instance,
in places like the Reach, for instance, or other Stormlander houses. But he also
or other Stormlander houses. But he also talks about denying any marriage
talks about denying any marriage alliances to people like Aegon, as he
alliances to people like Aegon, as he once again holds true to his claim that
once again holds true to his claim that young Griff may need to marry Da
young Griff may need to marry Da Daenerys if she crosses to Westeros.
Daenerys if she crosses to Westeros. Now, the issue with that is going to be
Now, the issue with that is going to be think Ariana is going to break up and
think Ariana is going to break up and shake up that entire plan completely.
shake up that entire plan completely. But it's interesting that John
But it's interesting that John Conington's thinking about that, right?
Conington's thinking about that, right? Given the fact that Daenerys is still in
Given the fact that Daenerys is still in Esso, she's still in Marereine. John
Esso, she's still in Marereine. John Conington is still thinking very much
Conington is still thinking very much into the future. Well, another thing
into the future. Well, another thing that that shows you that John Conington
that that shows you that John Conington doesn't have full control over Young
doesn't have full control over Young Griff and why I think Young Griff will
Griff and why I think Young Griff will marry someone like Arian is because
marry someone like Arian is because we're starting to see Aegon as he
we're starting to see Aegon as he becomes more into his power of making
becomes more into his power of making his own decisions. Right? So, John
his own decisions. Right? So, John Conington for one did not want Duck to
Conington for one did not want Duck to be on Aegon's King's Guard. And Aegon
be on Aegon's King's Guard. And Aegon argues about this and he gets his way in
argues about this and he gets his way in the end because he brings up the
the end because he brings up the argument, well, hey, you know, it's not
argument, well, hey, you know, it's not always having the best fighters near you
always having the best fighters near you that's the best thing. It's people that
that's the best thing. It's people that truly care about you, people that, you
truly care about you, people that, you know, will actually die for you, but
know, will actually die for you, but also have some skill.
also have some skill. You know, he compares, this is what
You know, he compares, this is what eventually gets him to win, is that
eventually gets him to win, is that Jaime Lannister, one of the finest
Jaime Lannister, one of the finest swordsmen during that time period, and
swordsmen during that time period, and yet he killed Aerys Targaryen, his king.
yet he killed Aerys Targaryen, his king. But it shows you right away that Aegon
But it shows you right away that Aegon is taking his own liberties. And so when
is taking his own liberties. And so when I talk about, for instance, in Winds of
I talk about, for instance, in Winds of Winter, when I think, you know, Arian
Winter, when I think, you know, Arian and Aegon are going to marry, it's for
and Aegon are going to marry, it's for reasons like this. We get this talk or
reasons like this. We get this talk or this thought process within John Khan,
this thought process within John Khan, literally right after, literally right
literally right after, literally right after he thinks about how John Khan
after he thinks about how John Khan needs young Griff to marry Daenerys or
needs young Griff to marry Daenerys or to keep him free. when young Griff, you
to keep him free. when young Griff, you know, sees Arian and maybe Aron puts on
know, sees Arian and maybe Aron puts on the moves on Young Griff, Young Griff
the moves on Young Griff, Young Griff might not be able to resist and he might
might not be able to resist and he might get his way and marrying her to their
get his way and marrying her to their cause. But again, like I talked about,
cause. But again, like I talked about, the plan for John Khan is to make a
the plan for John Khan is to make a statement taking Storm's End. And Aegon
statement taking Storm's End. And Aegon agrees with this, but only has one
agrees with this, but only has one change to his plan. He wants to lead the
change to his plan. He wants to lead the attack. And this is very noble, right?
attack. And this is very noble, right? Especially when you have a lot of kings
Especially when you have a lot of kings who don't do this or a lot of lords that
who don't do this or a lot of lords that don't do this. He's very reminiscent to
don't do this. He's very reminiscent to Mar Targaryen. The problem with that,
Mar Targaryen. The problem with that, and again, this is why I think Young
and again, this is why I think Young Griff is somebody that's going to become
Griff is somebody that's going to become a little bit more arrogant. I think
a little bit more arrogant. I think power is going to corrupt him a bit
power is going to corrupt him a bit more, is that when you have somebody
more, is that when you have somebody that's, you know, becoming more like
that's, you know, becoming more like that. When you have somebody like
that. When you have somebody like Daenerys coming over, how is Young Griff
Daenerys coming over, how is Young Griff going to feel about sharing power if
going to feel about sharing power if he's the one that's done all the heavy
he's the one that's done all the heavy lifting, right? Taking Storm's End,
lifting, right? Taking Storm's End, defeating the Tyrells, going to King's
defeating the Tyrells, going to King's Landing, taking King's Landing. I just
Landing, taking King's Landing. I just don't see a world where Young Griff and
don't see a world where Young Griff and Daenerys share power, especially if
Daenerys share power, especially if Young Griff is married to Ariana
Young Griff is married to Ariana already. I This is kind of that
already. I This is kind of that foreshadowing. I feel like that that's
foreshadowing. I feel like that that's going to occur. But also, when you think
going to occur. But also, when you think about it, it's not the smartest thing in
about it, it's not the smartest thing in the world to put, you know, your person
the world to put, you know, your person that everything revolves around in the
that everything revolves around in the front line. It's great in all of that
front line. It's great in all of that things. It's great and it inspires the
things. It's great and it inspires the men, but just like during the Peak
men, but just like during the Peak Rebellion, if one, you know, stray
Rebellion, if one, you know, stray person hits you with something like a
person hits you with something like a boulder or rock from a gate or an arrow,
boulder or rock from a gate or an arrow, you know, pierces you or whatever,
you know, pierces you or whatever, okay, now your cause is doomed. You are
okay, now your cause is doomed. You are in a lot of ways the last Blackfire
in a lot of ways the last Blackfire andor last male Targaryen alive. Again,
andor last male Targaryen alive. Again, not considering Jon if he is a
not considering Jon if he is a Targaryen, if he's not, and he also
Targaryen, if he's not, and he also hasn't been revealed to be one.
hasn't been revealed to be one. putting the last line of basically the
putting the last line of basically the Targaryenss or the Blackfires on the
Targaryenss or the Blackfires on the front lines is kind of not the best
front lines is kind of not the best idea. Again,
idea. Again, I love this chapter. I don't think it's
I love this chapter. I don't think it's as good as his first one because I
as good as his first one because I really do like how we get more into the
really do like how we get more into the lore of the Golden Company and it's
lore of the Golden Company and it's young Griff coming into his own which
young Griff coming into his own which has been foreshadowed by Tyrion telling
has been foreshadowed by Tyrion telling him to go to Westeros. I love his first
him to go to Westeros. I love his first chapter more than his second chapter,
chapter more than his second chapter, but I cannot fault you one bit if you
but I cannot fault you one bit if you think that this chapter is better than
think that this chapter is better than his first chapter. They're both
his first chapter. They're both beautifully done. And this kind of
beautifully done. And this kind of continues and this is kind of the part
continues and this is kind of the part of the book that I I think I was more
of the book that I I think I was more talking about, you know, in terms of
talking about, you know, in terms of when we get to the best parts of the
when we get to the best parts of the book, you know, we just talk about John
book, you know, we just talk about John Khan and how great that chapter is. And
Khan and how great that chapter is. And you got to think about the next chapter.
you got to think about the next chapter. The next chapter is Asha 3. You guys
The next chapter is Asha 3. You guys know how I feel about Asha in this book.
know how I feel about Asha in this book. I love Asha in this book. She's one of
I love Asha in this book. She's one of my favorite characters specifically in
my favorite characters specifically in this book and also going into Winds of
this book and also going into Winds of Winter. But let's get into chapter 63,
Winter. But let's get into chapter 63, Asha 3.
Asha 3. I currently have on my list Asha 3 as
I currently have on my list Asha 3 as being the 13th best chapter of the book.
being the 13th best chapter of the book. So, I have a lot of love for this
So, I have a lot of love for this chapter, but let's kind of go into what
chapter, but let's kind of go into what it is. And this is a weird one because
it is. And this is a weird one because this is the last we have of the north
this is the last we have of the north plot line in terms of Stannis's camp for
plot line in terms of Stannis's camp for the rest of the book. And we still have,
the rest of the book. And we still have, you know, another what 10 or 15 or so
you know, another what 10 or 15 or so more chapters to do. I think one of the
more chapters to do. I think one of the biggest issues that I have with the
biggest issues that I have with the Dance of Dragons before I get into this
Dance of Dragons before I get into this chapter is that some plot lines do not
chapter is that some plot lines do not get resolved in this book and this is
get resolved in this book and this is one of them, right? Like I don't think
one of them, right? Like I don't think this is the worst place to leave it on
this is the worst place to leave it on if you're going to do, you know,
if you're going to do, you know, something before the Battle of Ice, but
something before the Battle of Ice, but at the same time, you know, feeling like
at the same time, you know, feeling like we don't really get the payoff to the
we don't really get the payoff to the Stannis Bolton conflict in this book.
Stannis Bolton conflict in this book. We're forced to wait till winds of
We're forced to wait till winds of winter does feel quite weird. And so
winter does feel quite weird. And so that to me is the weirdest part about a
that to me is the weirdest part about a dance of dragons is out of all five
dance of dragons is out of all five books, it is the one that ends probably
books, it is the one that ends probably I would say on the most cliffhers like
I would say on the most cliffhers like they don't have the most natural
they don't have the most natural conclusions. Like certain plot lines
conclusions. Like certain plot lines definitely do. Like I think Daenerys and
definitely do. Like I think Daenerys and Jon end on you know where they should be
Jon end on you know where they should be right starting up her Dothraki plot and
right starting up her Dothraki plot and then also for Jon dying. But this is the
then also for Jon dying. But this is the one that doesn't really end on that kind
one that doesn't really end on that kind of a note. In the chapter, we follow as
of a note. In the chapter, we follow as Asha and Stannis are camped at a
Asha and Stannis are camped at a Coffter's village around 3 days from
Coffter's village around 3 days from Winterfell. Food is running even shorter
Winterfell. Food is running even shorter and lower. The fish have all been fished
and lower. The fish have all been fished out of the lake. The storm is still
out of the lake. The storm is still coming hard enough to be blinding. And
coming hard enough to be blinding. And to make matters worse, people are
to make matters worse, people are getting more and more desperate. This
getting more and more desperate. This shows the brutality of trying to do some
shows the brutality of trying to do some sort of march in winter. I think a lot
sort of march in winter. I think a lot of what we see in this chapter would
of what we see in this chapter would have represented what has been seen as
have represented what has been seen as like failed invasions of Russia. whether
like failed invasions of Russia. whether that be by Napoleon or the Germans in
that be by Napoleon or the Germans in World War II. This is kind of the same
World War II. This is kind of the same note, right? You're running into the
note, right? You're running into the situation where there's no food. You you
situation where there's no food. You you can't find any. If you even go out, you
can't find any. If you even go out, you know, a little bit past the camp, you
know, a little bit past the camp, you might not ever find your way back to the
might not ever find your way back to the camp and die. People are beginning to do
camp and die. People are beginning to do cannibalism and burnings are constantly
cannibalism and burnings are constantly happening. Everyone is kind of on edge.
happening. Everyone is kind of on edge. All of that tension seems to be boiling
All of that tension seems to be boiling up into this chapter where something
up into this chapter where something drastic may need to occur. And Asha the
drastic may need to occur. And Asha the whole time fears that she may be the
whole time fears that she may be the next person to be burned. And it's one
next person to be burned. And it's one thing to expect your death, but to
thing to expect your death, but to expect your death in a terrible fashion.
expect your death in a terrible fashion. Going out, burning has to probably be
Going out, burning has to probably be one of the worst ways to die. Not
one of the worst ways to die. Not something that's swift and quick. It's a
something that's swift and quick. It's a lot of pain. And we've seen that
lot of pain. And we've seen that throughout the Stannis plotline
throughout the Stannis plotline throughout all of the books. She even
throughout all of the books. She even knows that she needs to stay with
knows that she needs to stay with someone like Justin Massie to kind of
someone like Justin Massie to kind of protect her. People are ready to kind of
protect her. People are ready to kind of sacrifice her, give us any way of
sacrifice her, give us any way of getting out of this snowstorm and going
getting out of this snowstorm and going further on to Winterfell. But eventually
further on to Winterfell. But eventually at dinner, Justin gets pissed off and
at dinner, Justin gets pissed off and leaves. Asha tries to follow, but the
leaves. Asha tries to follow, but the storm is going on too much to see where
storm is going on too much to see where he went. When suddenly Asha hears
he went. When suddenly Asha hears horses. And this is this big moment,
horses. And this is this big moment, right? If you're reading this for the
right? If you're reading this for the first time, you've got to be thinking,
first time, you've got to be thinking, who is this going to be? It's got to be
who is this going to be? It's got to be this force that we just heard about that
this force that we just heard about that we're coming towards stands trying to
we're coming towards stands trying to find them. It has to be the Freys or the
find them. It has to be the Freys or the Manderly Force. But it isn't. And even
Manderly Force. But it isn't. And even though Asha hears these horses, she
though Asha hears these horses, she herself thinks it's the Bolton. But
herself thinks it's the Bolton. But actually, it is just the party that Jon
actually, it is just the party that Jon sent to them with the Iron Bank guy. So,
sent to them with the Iron Bank guy. So, you know, you have one situation where,
you know, you have one situation where, wow, this could have been really bad.
wow, this could have been really bad. Now you go to something where it's
Now you go to something where it's something completely different and it
something completely different and it means a lot for Sus, right? Can Stanis
means a lot for Sus, right? Can Stanis get the backing of the Iron Bank? Now,
get the backing of the Iron Bank? Now, yes, this wouldn't have direct
yes, this wouldn't have direct consequences now because he's out in the
consequences now because he's out in the middle of a snowstorm. He needs to, you
middle of a snowstorm. He needs to, you know, beat Winterfell to actually have a
know, beat Winterfell to actually have a position to actually get an army because
position to actually get an army because it's going to take a long time. But this
it's going to take a long time. But this is very vital and it also is something
is very vital and it also is something else because not only is it just this
else because not only is it just this party that Jon sent to Stannis, it has a
party that Jon sent to Stannis, it has a lot of repercussions. One, you know the
lot of repercussions. One, you know the car Starks are playing you for fools
car Starks are playing you for fools because of Alice and what we've seen in
because of Alice and what we've seen in her plot line with Jon that they would
her plot line with Jon that they would end up knowing. And also, there is an
end up knowing. And also, there is an individual that Asha does not seem to
individual that Asha does not seem to notice.
notice. It is Theon who has been completely aged
It is Theon who has been completely aged and changed. And even the last little
and changed. And even the last little lines of dialogue that we have between
lines of dialogue that we have between the two is hilarious because Theon
the two is hilarious because Theon references the time when he didn't know
references the time when he didn't know who Asha was. Now the roles have been
who Asha was. Now the roles have been switched in reverse. We know that Theon
switched in reverse. We know that Theon and Jane were picked up as as Moors Crow
and Jane were picked up as as Moors Crow food umber had been playing music
food umber had been playing music outside of Winterfell, which is
outside of Winterfell, which is something we hear earlier in Theon's POV
something we hear earlier in Theon's POV that everybody believes is Stannis, but
that everybody believes is Stannis, but in turn actually ends up being Crow Food
in turn actually ends up being Crow Food Umber. But this is it for the rest of
Umber. But this is it for the rest of the book, right? We see Theon showing up
the book, right? We see Theon showing up to Stannis's camp and that's it. There's
to Stannis's camp and that's it. There's no conclusion to the Battle of Ice or
no conclusion to the Battle of Ice or conclusion to this poly that's been
conclusion to this poly that's been building up for this entire book. my
building up for this entire book. my opinion probably the most interesting
opinion probably the most interesting plot lines in terms of one as a whole
plot lines in terms of one as a whole Stannis and the Bolton plotline that we
Stannis and the Bolton plotline that we just don't get to see the conclusion of
just don't get to see the conclusion of it and I think this is why I you know
it and I think this is why I you know struggle with Dance of the Dragons as a
struggle with Dance of the Dragons as a book because I think that it could have
book because I think that it could have happened in this book if we removed
happened in this book if we removed certain plot lines that didn't need to
certain plot lines that didn't need to be there you know if Quentyn was removed
be there you know if Quentyn was removed from this book maybe we get his last
from this book maybe we get his last chapter but he's just introduced with
chapter but he's just introduced with with Danny right you know if we had just
with Danny right you know if we had just taken down a lot Tyrion's chapters
taken down a lot Tyrion's chapters having 12 down to maybe something more
having 12 down to maybe something more like seven chapters.
like seven chapters. You could have seen the battle of ice,
You could have seen the battle of ice, you know, you could have seen the battle
you know, you could have seen the battle of fire and not getting those things
of fire and not getting those things feels like wow. I mean, what a what a
feels like wow. I mean, what a what a weird way to end it for this plotline
weird way to end it for this plotline specifically. But the bangers keep
specifically. But the bangers keep coming as we move on to chapter 64,
coming as we move on to chapter 64, Victarion 2. Again, what I talk about
Victarion 2. Again, what I talk about Victarion is that he's just a fun
Victarion is that he's just a fun character to read. I don't think he's
character to read. I don't think he's the best character or anywhere close to
the best character or anywhere close to one of the my favorite characters, you
one of the my favorite characters, you know, in terms of POVs, but he's just
know, in terms of POVs, but he's just fun to read. You know, the Viction never
fun to read. You know, the Viction never has a chapter like Tyrion in this book,
has a chapter like Tyrion in this book, for instance, does where it's quite
for instance, does where it's quite boring. There's not much going on.
boring. There's not much going on. There's not much character development
There's not much character development or plot development going on. Victarion
or plot development going on. Victarion never has that. Victarion always just
never has that. Victarion always just has pure fun. He's just a joy to read
has pure fun. He's just a joy to read because you never know what he's going
because you never know what he's going to do next. He's just like a kind of a
to do next. He's just like a kind of a dumb, brutish guy and he makes some wild
dumb, brutish guy and he makes some wild decisions. We see how Victarion has made
decisions. We see how Victarion has made Mcquarro and Ror a strong position in
Mcquarro and Ror a strong position in his fleet to the unease of his crew and
his fleet to the unease of his crew and army. If you're looking at this, it's
army. If you're looking at this, it's the same idea of Stannis, but I would
the same idea of Stannis, but I would say almost even heightened. So when
say almost even heightened. So when Stannis takes Mel right into his like
Stannis takes Mel right into his like household and he starts doing these
household and he starts doing these burnings and things and having Rore be
burnings and things and having Rore be on his sigil and all that stuff, it
on his sigil and all that stuff, it sends the wrong message to a lot of
sends the wrong message to a lot of people in Westeros because they believe
people in Westeros because they believe either in the faith of the seven or the
either in the faith of the seven or the old gods. And here it's even more
old gods. And here it's even more heightened because the Ironborn are much
heightened because the Ironborn are much more extreme in their beliefs it would
more extreme in their beliefs it would appear. And so when you have Victarion
appear. And so when you have Victarion who starts, you know, giving sacrifices
who starts, you know, giving sacrifices to Mororrow and Ror, it comes off as a
to Mororrow and Ror, it comes off as a really interesting situation. And you
really interesting situation. And you also you have Victarion who has this
also you have Victarion who has this basically blackened arm and all of that
basically blackened arm and all of that stuff from the last chapter. Victarion
stuff from the last chapter. Victarion starts to become somewhat of an
starts to become somewhat of an interesting figure, right? We see him
interesting figure, right? We see him kind of taking a number of ships as well
kind of taking a number of ships as well and even does a sacrifice to a lore. The
and even does a sacrifice to a lore. The last part of this chapter revolves
last part of this chapter revolves around dragon binder and how no mortal
around dragon binder and how no mortal man can blow it and live. But the dragon
man can blow it and live. But the dragon will respond to the master of it, which
will respond to the master of it, which means he must master the horn with
means he must master the horn with blood. That seems to be the implication
blood. That seems to be the implication that the master of the horn is the one
that the master of the horn is the one that sacrifices the most blood to it.
that sacrifices the most blood to it. And again, we're seeing blood magic prop
And again, we're seeing blood magic prop up and all this other stuff. And again,
up and all this other stuff. And again, there's not a lot really to talk about
there's not a lot really to talk about Victrion 2. It's just a fun chapter of
Victrion 2. It's just a fun chapter of them and their journey going towards
them and their journey going towards Meereen to get to Daenerys. We see the
Meereen to get to Daenerys. We see the growing influence that Rolora has on
growing influence that Rolora has on Victarion and also some of these
Victarion and also some of these mysteries like Dragon Binder and even
mysteries like Dragon Binder and even what Mororrow's true powers are and who
what Mororrow's true powers are and who does he actually serve. There's a lot of
does he actually serve. There's a lot of interesting stuff there. Um there's not
interesting stuff there. Um there's not that much in terms of wow very in-depth
that much in terms of wow very in-depth stuff going on here or as interesting as
stuff going on here or as interesting as other characters right now in the story
other characters right now in the story like Asha and Daenerys where she's at at
like Asha and Daenerys where she's at at this point, Jon where he's at. But
this point, Jon where he's at. But Viction's just a fun character to read.
Viction's just a fun character to read. I think Quinn in his POV uh list or
I think Quinn in his POV uh list or Quinn the GM I should say if you don't
Quinn the GM I should say if you don't know, he ranked, you know, Victarion
know, he ranked, you know, Victarion quite high. But the reason he did it is
quite high. But the reason he did it is because the character is fun to read.
because the character is fun to read. And I think the character is very fun to
And I think the character is very fun to read, but he isn't necessarily all that
read, but he isn't necessarily all that high for me. But getting into chapter
high for me. But getting into chapter 65, Arya 2. And I want to say this as
65, Arya 2. And I want to say this as well before we get into it. This is one
well before we get into it. This is one of my favorite chapters of the book. I
of my favorite chapters of the book. I have this ranked as number eight. So
have this ranked as number eight. So that should tell you how much I I love
that should tell you how much I I love this. But one reason I used to really
this. But one reason I used to really like A Dance Dragons more than A Feast
like A Dance Dragons more than A Feast for Crows is like I've talked about with
for Crows is like I've talked about with certain characters like Cersei for
certain characters like Cersei for instance, they get the better chapters
instance, they get the better chapters and the better conclusion of the arcs in
and the better conclusion of the arcs in this book than in Feast. Like I think
this book than in Feast. Like I think Arya's chapters in Dance are
Arya's chapters in Dance are significantly better than her chapters
significantly better than her chapters in Feast. And this is a clear example
in Feast. And this is a clear example why
why this chapter, the perfect way to
this chapter, the perfect way to describe this chapter is it is like
describe this chapter is it is like Assassin's Creed. if you've, you know,
Assassin's Creed. if you've, you know, played those video games mixed with a
played those video games mixed with a magical element. And it's just so
magical element. And it's just so intriguing how George blends those
intriguing how George blends those elements. We see that Arya is being
elements. We see that Arya is being given this mission to go back as being
given this mission to go back as being cat of the canals, but she's basically
cat of the canals, but she's basically being sent on spy and assassinate
being sent on spy and assassinate mission. She is to spy out a target that
mission. She is to spy out a target that is an older man who makes bets with
is an older man who makes bets with captains as an insurance. And again,
captains as an insurance. And again, once again, Arya proves that she's not a
once again, Arya proves that she's not a facelessman. She's not someone like, you
facelessman. She's not someone like, you know, the kindly one or the waif because
know, the kindly one or the waif because she goes about figuring out who actually
she goes about figuring out who actually wants him dead, which is never the
wants him dead, which is never the reason. That is never something that the
reason. That is never something that the Faceless Men do. The Faceless Men do not
Faceless Men do. The Faceless Men do not care, you know, why this person is dying
care, you know, why this person is dying or who or who wants them dead. It's
or who or who wants them dead. It's about killing them. That is the only
about killing them. That is the only part that matters. And so Arya kind of
part that matters. And so Arya kind of struggles with that a little bit. Like
struggles with that a little bit. Like that's part of her arc as well. But at
that's part of her arc as well. But at the same time, she knows like the kindly
the same time, she knows like the kindly man is kind of playing these people. So
man is kind of playing these people. So she goes along with it, of course. But
she goes along with it, of course. But we see her kind of being instructed of
we see her kind of being instructed of how to do it, right? She knows she's
how to do it, right? She knows she's going to poison him, but she doesn't
going to poison him, but she doesn't know exactly how she's going to do it.
know exactly how she's going to do it. She needs to practice. And so she has
She needs to practice. And so she has help. She has the waif, you know,
help. She has the waif, you know, instruct her how to prepare. And even
instruct her how to prepare. And even she's shown the hidden place where the
she's shown the hidden place where the faces are kept. And this part of the
faces are kept. And this part of the chapter is just so interesting because
chapter is just so interesting because still up to this point, we don't know a
still up to this point, we don't know a lot of how everything works with the
lot of how everything works with the faceless men. and seeing Arya being
faceless men. and seeing Arya being given this this face of like this, you
given this this face of like this, you know, really ugly and sick and poor
know, really ugly and sick and poor looking girl.
looking girl. But how does that work? Right? It seems
But how does that work? Right? It seems like there's some magic here. It would
like there's some magic here. It would appear there's also some like carving of
appear there's also some like carving of the face into her, right? She becomes
the face into her, right? She becomes this person where she has the memories
this person where she has the memories of this girl being beaten. Incredibly
of this girl being beaten. Incredibly intriguing and really I I want to get
intriguing and really I I want to get more of this in the next book. It's why
more of this in the next book. It's why I really like Arya in the next book
I really like Arya in the next book compared to how I I haven't been the
compared to how I I haven't been the biggest fan of her and Feast for Crows.
biggest fan of her and Feast for Crows. Um I'm really interested to see, you
Um I'm really interested to see, you know, how this kind of concludes, right?
know, how this kind of concludes, right? How Arya uses this in the future. But
How Arya uses this in the future. But Arya goes about then going back and
Arya goes about then going back and doing her usual, you know, thing,
doing her usual, you know, thing, practicing how she's going to poison or
practicing how she's going to poison or how she's going to poison the man. This
how she's going to poison the man. This chapter does a great job of building the
chapter does a great job of building the tension towards that moment. Uh, if you
tension towards that moment. Uh, if you guys have watched Better Call Saul,
guys have watched Better Call Saul, there's this moment early on in the
there's this moment early on in the actual series where Nacho is more or
actual series where Nacho is more or less trying to kill Hector. He's trying
less trying to kill Hector. He's trying to take out his pills and just have them
to take out his pills and just have them be sugar pills or whatever so that
be sugar pills or whatever so that Hector will die. And so, he does this
Hector will die. And so, he does this thing where he trains trying to throw it
thing where he trains trying to throw it into his jacket pocket, right? And it's
into his jacket pocket, right? And it's very similar to what Arya is doing here,
very similar to what Arya is doing here, right? because she's going to be doing
right? because she's going to be doing some sort of slight of hand to get her
some sort of slight of hand to get her poisoned coin into this gold bag of the
poisoned coin into this gold bag of the person going to meet the old man who
person going to meet the old man who does the insurance because the insurance
does the insurance because the insurance man always bites into the gold to make
man always bites into the gold to make sure it's real or whatever. And so it
sure it's real or whatever. And so it really is so awesome the way this all
really is so awesome the way this all plays out. It feels like an Assassin's
plays out. It feels like an Assassin's Creed mission straight out of it. And we
Creed mission straight out of it. And we see that by the end of it she is able to
see that by the end of it she is able to pull it off and the man dies from the
pull it off and the man dies from the poisoning. I love the chapter. it it's
poisoning. I love the chapter. it it's just so perfectly done that I you know
just so perfectly done that I you know one of the things I think about with
one of the things I think about with Peace for Crows and what holds it back
Peace for Crows and what holds it back as being a great book in the series. I
as being a great book in the series. I think it's really good still. I have it
think it's really good still. I have it as my fourth rated book of the main
as my fourth rated book of the main series.
series. But if it had had chapters like the
But if it had had chapters like the inclusion of Arya's journey, if it had
inclusion of Arya's journey, if it had chapters like what we're going to see in
chapters like what we're going to see in the next chapter with Cersei 2,
the next chapter with Cersei 2, I think it would have been received much
I think it would have been received much better than what it was because A Dance
better than what it was because A Dance Dragons gets a lot of the high moments
Dragons gets a lot of the high moments of A Feast for Crows that A Feast for
of A Feast for Crows that A Feast for Crows took all the time to build up to.
Crows took all the time to build up to. A lot of those moments go to Dance
A lot of those moments go to Dance Dragons. And the next chapter, I think,
Dragons. And the next chapter, I think, is quite literally the biggest example
is quite literally the biggest example of them, right? Cersei 2, which is the
of them, right? Cersei 2, which is the walk of atonement chapter. It's one of
walk of atonement chapter. It's one of the most powerful and I think
the most powerful and I think fascinating and horrible chapters to
fascinating and horrible chapters to read in all of the books. It is really
read in all of the books. It is really the conclusion of her Feast for Crows
the conclusion of her Feast for Crows arc. In my opinion, I think that yes, it
arc. In my opinion, I think that yes, it was done well. if you're going to split
was done well. if you're going to split up Cersei and you didn't have time for
up Cersei and you didn't have time for her, picking the moment where she gets
her, picking the moment where she gets captured by the faith works really well
captured by the faith works really well for Feast for Crows. But in my opinion,
for Feast for Crows. But in my opinion, the true conclusion of that arc comes
the true conclusion of that arc comes here with Cersei 2. And in my opinion,
here with Cersei 2. And in my opinion, you know, getting into chapter 66,
you know, getting into chapter 66, George writes this chapter so well. The
George writes this chapter so well. The emotions that we go through in this
emotions that we go through in this chapter are just all over the place.
chapter are just all over the place. It's a slow building of tension and of
It's a slow building of tension and of emotion the morning of her walk of
emotion the morning of her walk of atonement. as Cersei herself is anxious
atonement. as Cersei herself is anxious to just get get this thing done with.
to just get get this thing done with. But it's also kind of left to slowly
But it's also kind of left to slowly build into it so that Cersei's anxious
build into it so that Cersei's anxious feeling only grows and her dread grows
feeling only grows and her dread grows because not only are they going to, you
because not only are they going to, you know, make her walk this whole journey
know, make her walk this whole journey right all the way back to the Red Keep,
right all the way back to the Red Keep, they're going to humiliate her as well.
they're going to humiliate her as well. They're going to, you know, have her
They're going to, you know, have her shaved all over her hair and all these
shaved all over her hair and all these other different things. We see this
other different things. We see this proud version of Cersei, but it's slowly
proud version of Cersei, but it's slowly broken. The more and more the chapter
broken. The more and more the chapter goes on. The more this chapter goes on,
goes on. The more this chapter goes on, the more you feel bad for her. And even
the more you feel bad for her. And even me, I dislike Cersei. I don't like her.
me, I dislike Cersei. I don't like her. I don't think a lot of people, even
I don't think a lot of people, even people that like love reading Cersei's
people that like love reading Cersei's POVs, it's not because you like her as a
POVs, it's not because you like her as a person. It's because she's entertaining
person. It's because she's entertaining to read. But you feel bad for Cersei.
to read. But you feel bad for Cersei. You you you hate the High Sparrow and
You you you hate the High Sparrow and the Septas and the Faith more than you
the Septas and the Faith more than you hate Cersei here because George does
hate Cersei here because George does this really fascinating thing where we
this really fascinating thing where we come off of a storm of where Cersei's at
come off of a storm of where Cersei's at her most unlikable and by the end of
her most unlikable and by the end of Dance Dragons, you're like, man, I
Dance Dragons, you're like, man, I actually do feel really bad for her as
actually do feel really bad for her as she's tripped naked and she's paraded
she's tripped naked and she's paraded around the city and people are calling
around the city and people are calling all sorts of names and throwing things
all sorts of names and throwing things at her and she's slipping and all these
at her and she's slipping and all these things. It's just so well done, you
things. It's just so well done, you know, in the way that those things are
know, in the way that those things are written. And it sets up this compelling
written. And it sets up this compelling arc for the next book of how does Cersei
arc for the next book of how does Cersei deal with the faith? Will she do some
deal with the faith? Will she do some sort of big explosion killing some of
sort of big explosion killing some of the leaders of the, you know, the faith
the leaders of the, you know, the faith at this time, the high sparrow
at this time, the high sparrow specifically, and maybe Marjorie like in
specifically, and maybe Marjorie like in the show? Do we never see her get her
the show? Do we never see her get her revenge on the faith until all the way
revenge on the faith until all the way when she comes back maybe to power in a
when she comes back maybe to power in a dream of spring? We just don't know. But
dream of spring? We just don't know. But the emotion that George gets us to feel
the emotion that George gets us to feel towards the faith and the high sparrow
towards the faith and the high sparrow is fantastic as Cersei is brought to
is fantastic as Cersei is brought to crying completely breaking down really
crying completely breaking down really this facade that she's had of being a
this facade that she's had of being a proud Lannister and of the lion what she
proud Lannister and of the lion what she started this chapter of trying to be.
started this chapter of trying to be. She's completely broken. And at this, it
She's completely broken. And at this, it seems a glimmer of hope appears for
seems a glimmer of hope appears for Cersei as Robert Strong, aka probably
Cersei as Robert Strong, aka probably Gregor, is introduced to her as her
Gregor, is introduced to her as her champion. In my opinion, this is a
champion. In my opinion, this is a perfect ending for the story of Cersei
perfect ending for the story of Cersei throughout the last two books, and it is
throughout the last two books, and it is a major highlight of book five for me. I
a major highlight of book five for me. I I put a lot of respect in this chapter.
I put a lot of respect in this chapter. I I It's rated number four for me. It's
I I It's rated number four for me. It's just beautifully done. I've got to give
just beautifully done. I've got to give George all of his flowers for, you know,
George all of his flowers for, you know, not only introducing and taking a risk
not only introducing and taking a risk of giving us one of our main antagonists
of giving us one of our main antagonists and villains as a POV, but also making
and villains as a POV, but also making her by far one of the best written
her by far one of the best written characters in book four and five as a
characters in book four and five as a whole. So, getting into chapter 66, we
whole. So, getting into chapter 66, we we kind of get into the finale of
we kind of get into the finale of Tyrion's whole, I guess, arc uh in this
Tyrion's whole, I guess, arc uh in this book. and saying the finale of and I
book. and saying the finale of and I guess the conclusion of his arc in this
guess the conclusion of his arc in this book is kind of a loose statement in my
book is kind of a loose statement in my opinion because very like Barrison when
opinion because very like Barrison when we talk about his final chapter this
we talk about his final chapter this isn't really the conclusion of his arc
isn't really the conclusion of his arc the conclusion of his arc is basically
the conclusion of his arc is basically going to happen within the beginning of
going to happen within the beginning of a winds of winter we've even seen some
a winds of winter we've even seen some of that in his sample chapters there's
of that in his sample chapters there's still a lot more Tyrion that needed to
still a lot more Tyrion that needed to go and you could tell we didn't
go and you could tell we didn't necessarily get there and so one of my
necessarily get there and so one of my biggest criticisms I'm going to have
biggest criticisms I'm going to have Tyrion you know when we get to the
Tyrion you know when we get to the conclusion And we talk about the POVs is
conclusion And we talk about the POVs is I think George really should have
I think George really should have allowed for Tyrion to travel a lot more
allowed for Tyrion to travel a lot more off the page uh than what we actually
off the page uh than what we actually got. You know, he has 12 chapters in
got. You know, he has 12 chapters in this book. And I think if I asked you
this book. And I think if I asked you guys right now and you hadn't read Dance
guys right now and you hadn't read Dance Dragons in say five years to name some
Dragons in say five years to name some of your favorite, you know, Tyrion
of your favorite, you know, Tyrion chapters, it'd probably be like maybe
chapters, it'd probably be like maybe the young griff section, right, where
the young griff section, right, where the reveal comes out of who he, you
the reveal comes out of who he, you know, he is or whatnot. Or, you know,
know, he is or whatnot. Or, you know, maybe him with Yo at the very beginning.
maybe him with Yo at the very beginning. And then after that, you kind of
And then after that, you kind of remember some of his bad chapters, but
remember some of his bad chapters, but they all kind of blend together. And so
they all kind of blend together. And so this finale is kind of a bittersweet one
this finale is kind of a bittersweet one for Tyrion. It's by far, in my opinion,
for Tyrion. It's by far, in my opinion, of any character in this book, even
of any character in this book, even Quentyn, like of the characters that
Quentyn, like of the characters that have multiple POVs, um, his is the
have multiple POVs, um, his is the weakest because not only is his
weakest because not only is his storyline outside of maybe Quentyn's the
storyline outside of maybe Quentyn's the weakest, it's also the fact that he has
weakest, it's also the fact that he has so much time to it and this is what we
so much time to it and this is what we get for his conclusion. So his
get for his conclusion. So his conclusion basically ends up being okay,
conclusion basically ends up being okay, he's signing some papers and all this
he's signing some papers and all this stuff for the second son. So that, you
stuff for the second son. So that, you know, if they go to king, if they go to
know, if they go to king, if they go to Westeros and they, you know, win and all
Westeros and they, you know, win and all this stuff, they're going to be granted
this stuff, they're going to be granted all this gold from Casterly Rock,
all this gold from Casterly Rock, certain lands, all this type of stuff.
certain lands, all this type of stuff. Brown Ben Plum specifically benefits
Brown Ben Plum specifically benefits really well from this deal. And so it's
really well from this deal. And so it's a lot of that stuff where it's
a lot of that stuff where it's intriguing to find out more about the
intriguing to find out more about the Second Sons. And you're seeing Tyrion
Second Sons. And you're seeing Tyrion actually, you know, use his wit with
actually, you know, use his wit with other people like the Second Sons who
other people like the Second Sons who are some more interesting characters,
are some more interesting characters, especially Brown, Ben Plum. I'm glad we
especially Brown, Ben Plum. I'm glad we got to see more of him towards the end
got to see more of him towards the end of the story after he leaves Daenerys.
of the story after he leaves Daenerys. And so that aspect of it I think is
And so that aspect of it I think is better, right? I think the supporting
better, right? I think the supporting cast for Tyrion in this chapter is
cast for Tyrion in this chapter is probably the best it's been since young
probably the best it's been since young Griff. Um, you can maybe argue like
Griff. Um, you can maybe argue like Mororrow in that one chapter that he was
Mororrow in that one chapter that he was in with Tyrion, but personally, you
in with Tyrion, but personally, you know, I think that this element made it
know, I think that this element made it just far more interesting. And so, that
just far more interesting. And so, that part of it is pretty solid, but it for a
part of it is pretty solid, but it for a final chapter of a POV, it's just not
final chapter of a POV, it's just not much really happening here in terms of
much really happening here in terms of big moments. You then go to Tyrion and
big moments. You then go to Tyrion and Penny, and Tyrion is kind of in a weird
Penny, and Tyrion is kind of in a weird spot because on one hand, he actually
spot because on one hand, he actually believes that Penny has gotten the flux,
believes that Penny has gotten the flux, that she possibly may die to the
that she possibly may die to the sickness because of the way maybe she's
sickness because of the way maybe she's sleeping, she seems weaker, whatever you
sleeping, she seems weaker, whatever you want to say. And so, you have that part
want to say. And so, you have that part of it, but you also have the part of it
of it, but you also have the part of it that Penny is just not waking up, right?
that Penny is just not waking up, right? She's still playing the girl kind of
She's still playing the girl kind of like Sansa in a lot of ways because
like Sansa in a lot of ways because she's not realizing how dire the
she's not realizing how dire the situation is, right? She talks to Tyrion
situation is, right? She talks to Tyrion about dreaming about her brother and
about dreaming about her brother and them jousting and Tyrion sort of slaps
them jousting and Tyrion sort of slaps her which you know again it should paint
her which you know again it should paint you that Tyrion is not a good person.
you that Tyrion is not a good person. You know hitting women not a right away
You know hitting women not a right away not a good good sign. But in terms of
not a good good sign. But in terms of you know Tyrion it's him wanting her to
you know Tyrion it's him wanting her to wake up right of having to hide all
wake up right of having to hide all these things from her you know
these things from her you know especially you know we hear this idea
especially you know we hear this idea that Tyrion you know knows they were
that Tyrion you know knows they were likely going to die to those lions if it
likely going to die to those lions if it wasn't for Daenerys who stopped that.
wasn't for Daenerys who stopped that. Penny still doesn't know those things.
Penny still doesn't know those things. She doesn't realize that yes, her
She doesn't realize that yes, her animals are now probably being eaten.
animals are now probably being eaten. Like she's just somebody that is not
Like she's just somebody that is not very aware of the world. And I think
very aware of the world. And I think there's a lot of people that I guess you
there's a lot of people that I guess you know you guys might maybe watching this
know you guys might maybe watching this might have someone you know that's kind
might have someone you know that's kind of like this. Like they're kind of
of like this. Like they're kind of living in their own little bubble and
living in their own little bubble and don't realize what's going on in the
don't realize what's going on in the general world. That's kind of Penny. So
general world. That's kind of Penny. So Penny and Tyrion then have to go get
Penny and Tyrion then have to go get some armor because you know they're
some armor because you know they're going to be going into a battle. It
going to be going into a battle. It could be the difference between life and
could be the difference between life and death. albeit a lot of the armor and
death. albeit a lot of the armor and weapons that they have are not the best
weapons that they have are not the best and have already been worn by people
and have already been worn by people that have died before them. We also see
that have died before them. We also see Jorah, you know, come up and he's
Jorah, you know, come up and he's getting some decent armor as well. But
getting some decent armor as well. But the final conclusion and and where this
the final conclusion and and where this whole chapter wraps up is them
whole chapter wraps up is them realizing, yeah, we've got to make sure
realizing, yeah, we've got to make sure that the second sons go for Daenerys.
that the second sons go for Daenerys. They are on the losing side. And that's
They are on the losing side. And that's true. And so that's kind of where this
true. And so that's kind of where this plot line ends. And and you're thinking
plot line ends. And and you're thinking like that's it, right? like Tyrion, who
like that's it, right? like Tyrion, who was, you know, arguably the best POV of
was, you know, arguably the best POV of the last two books that he was in, Storm
the last two books that he was in, Storm of Swords and Clash of Kings, he was up
of Swords and Clash of Kings, he was up there as probably the best POV in both
there as probably the best POV in both of those books.
of those books. And this book,
And this book, he just isn't all that great,
he just isn't all that great, unfortunately. And that's just the case
unfortunately. And that's just the case of it. He just isn't all that good. He
of it. He just isn't all that good. He doesn't have a great finale. So, for
doesn't have a great finale. So, for instance, characters like Daenerys, for
instance, characters like Daenerys, for instance, they have a really good
instance, they have a really good finale. Um, you know, at least in Danny
finale. Um, you know, at least in Danny N anyway, one of the best chapters of
N anyway, one of the best chapters of the book. And you have characters like
the book. And you have characters like maybe Jon who I think Jon's been good
maybe Jon who I think Jon's been good pretty much all throughout the whole
pretty much all throughout the whole story but he has a massive payoff at the
story but he has a massive payoff at the end with his death if you don't believe
end with his death if you don't believe that maybe him bleeding out slash
that maybe him bleeding out slash passing out Tyrion just feels like he
passing out Tyrion just feels like he didn't really function all that well in
didn't really function all that well in this story and so let's kind of move on
this story and so let's kind of move on not harp on Tyrion too much moving into
not harp on Tyrion too much moving into chapter 68 Barristen 3. So Barrison,
chapter 68 Barristen 3. So Barrison, we're, you know, only a couple uh
we're, you know, only a couple uh chapters from the end, but Barrison has
chapters from the end, but Barrison has two really important ones later in the
two really important ones later in the book. And Barrison 3 is my favorite of
book. And Barrison 3 is my favorite of all of his chapters. For me, I have
all of his chapters. For me, I have Barrison 3 ranked at number seven. So I
Barrison 3 ranked at number seven. So I really want to point, you know, some
really want to point, you know, some attention to this. If you think about my
attention to this. If you think about my rankings of the chapters of A Dance with
rankings of the chapters of A Dance with Dragons of the top 10, I have seven of
Dragons of the top 10, I have seven of those that are within the last like 25
those that are within the last like 25 chapters of the book. This is kind of
chapters of the book. This is kind of again where the book really peaks and
again where the book really peaks and really hits its stride. And Barrison 3
really hits its stride. And Barrison 3 plays out a lot like Ned's coup in a in
plays out a lot like Ned's coup in a in a lot of ways uh for book one where it's
a lot of ways uh for book one where it's Barrison, you know, he's going over this
Barrison, you know, he's going over this plan with Scahasa's the shave plate
plan with Scahasa's the shave plate about what they're going to do and it
about what they're going to do and it really feels like and it really reminds
really feels like and it really reminds me of Ned and Littlefinger. Now, it has
me of Ned and Littlefinger. Now, it has a different outcome here for Barrison.
a different outcome here for Barrison. His coup actually goes off pretty well.
His coup actually goes off pretty well. uh some things go off that aren't really
uh some things go off that aren't really in his control, but for the most part,
in his control, but for the most part, what he wanted to accomplish does
what he wanted to accomplish does happen. But it feels very Ned and
happen. But it feels very Ned and Littlefingeresque where Barriston, you
Littlefingeresque where Barriston, you know, doesn't want to do some
know, doesn't want to do some dishonorable acts and he wants to do
dishonorable acts and he wants to do this very honorably and he's kind of
this very honorably and he's kind of doubting himself if this is the right
doubting himself if this is the right thing to do while you have someone like
thing to do while you have someone like Scahas who's kind of feeding into those
Scahas who's kind of feeding into those bad impulses and trying to convince
bad impulses and trying to convince Barrison to do certain actions. Feels
Barrison to do certain actions. Feels very similar to that. It's why I like
very similar to that. It's why I like Barrison a lot. He's very similar to
Barrison a lot. He's very similar to Ned. information that Barrison has, even
Ned. information that Barrison has, even the things that he, you know, kind of
the things that he, you know, kind of thinks about, right? All throughout this
thinks about, right? All throughout this chapter, he realizes the danger he's in,
chapter, he realizes the danger he's in, how this could go all wrong and he could
how this could go all wrong and he could die. He thinks about, you know, his
die. He thinks about, you know, his life, some of the things that maybe he
life, some of the things that maybe he did wrong. You know, maybe Duskandale
did wrong. You know, maybe Duskandale with Aerys or thinking about a past love
with Aerys or thinking about a past love and a Shara Dane that never could be
and a Shara Dane that never could be because he was in the King's Guard. He
because he was in the King's Guard. He even thinks about knighting some of the
even thinks about knighting some of the boys because if he dies, who's going to
boys because if he dies, who's going to knight them? There's a lot that goes
knight them? There's a lot that goes through Barrison's mind as the tension
through Barrison's mind as the tension kind of builds in the pit of Barrison's
kind of builds in the pit of Barrison's stomach the whole day, right? This
stomach the whole day, right? This happens, you know, this talk happens a
happens, you know, this talk happens a little bit, you know, basically a day
little bit, you know, basically a day before it actually occurs. And you can
before it actually occurs. And you can feel that tension as it slowly slowly
feel that tension as it slowly slowly builds with us the you know the audience
builds with us the you know the audience and also Barrist because the last time
and also Barrist because the last time we saw somebody try to do something like
we saw somebody try to do something like this didn't go well for Ned and he got
this didn't go well for Ned and he got betrayed and we still at this point
betrayed and we still at this point don't know how much we can trust Scahas
don't know how much we can trust Scahas and what is he actually working towards
and what is he actually working towards and so you know you have Barrist who
and so you know you have Barrist who does this this coup. He basically puts
does this this coup. He basically puts his daughter off of the throne, captures
his daughter off of the throne, captures him in the middle of the night, taking
him in the middle of the night, taking down a pit fighter and all that stuff.
down a pit fighter and all that stuff. And it's really remarkable the way
And it's really remarkable the way George does it and kind of has a nice
George does it and kind of has a nice twist on it where everything seems to be
twist on it where everything seems to be going right for Barristan. It seems
going right for Barristan. It seems almost too perfect and it is because by
almost too perfect and it is because by the end of it when you see mysteriously
the end of it when you see mysteriously Resnak who is somebody that was supposed
Resnak who is somebody that was supposed to already be in captive, you know, by
to already be in captive, you know, by the shave pay by Scahas. Interesting
the shave pay by Scahas. Interesting that that didn't actually occur.
that that didn't actually occur. we see that the dragons are released and
we see that the dragons are released and so everything went out, you know, on a
so everything went out, you know, on a hitch. Everything went perfectly well
hitch. Everything went perfectly well for Barrist specifically, but
for Barrist specifically, but unfortunately the dragons have been
unfortunately the dragons have been released upon the city.
released upon the city. And that gets us to uh the next chapter,
And that gets us to uh the next chapter, which is number 69 for Quentyn or we're
which is number 69 for Quentyn or we're basically going to go in parallel to
basically going to go in parallel to what bar what's happening with Barrison,
what bar what's happening with Barrison, we're going to then go to Quentyn. And I
we're going to then go to Quentyn. And I do think this is Quentyn's best chapter
do think this is Quentyn's best chapter of the book. Undoubtedly, it's the one
of the book. Undoubtedly, it's the one where it builds off the tension of the
where it builds off the tension of the last chapter where it's completely
last chapter where it's completely foreshadowed based upon what Resnak
foreshadowed based upon what Resnak says. We know the dragons are going to
says. We know the dragons are going to at least be released, but we don't know
at least be released, but we don't know how that's going to end up. We don't
how that's going to end up. We don't know how Quentyn's plan is going to go.
know how Quentyn's plan is going to go. And so, whereas Barrison's plan seems to
And so, whereas Barrison's plan seems to go off without a hitch, Quentyn's is
go off without a hitch, Quentyn's is almost the opposite, where everything
almost the opposite, where everything that could possibly goes wrong goes
that could possibly goes wrong goes wrong. Even simple things as having the
wrong. Even simple things as having the right password to get into the pyramid
right password to get into the pyramid where the dragons are goes completely
where the dragons are goes completely wrong because Quentyn doesn't know that
wrong because Quentyn doesn't know that right now the brazen beasts are also
right now the brazen beasts are also trying to do this coup. And so they use
trying to do this coup. And so they use the wrong words. And so you have then a
the wrong words. And so you have then a whole breakout and fight that happens
whole breakout and fight that happens between the windb blown and then also
between the windb blown and then also the brazen beast.
the brazen beast. Quentyn himself is almost killed in this
Quentyn himself is almost killed in this little skirmish. But they do eventually
little skirmish. But they do eventually get to the dragons and this is where
get to the dragons and this is where everything pretty much goes wrong.
everything pretty much goes wrong. wasion looks to try and flee and get out
wasion looks to try and flee and get out of the pit that he's been trapped in. We
of the pit that he's been trapped in. We see that some of the chains have broken
see that some of the chains have broken one of the dragons. Everything is just
one of the dragons. Everything is just that could possibly go wrong for Quentyn
that could possibly go wrong for Quentyn goes wrong. Quentyn trying to be the
goes wrong. Quentyn trying to be the hero and trying to be this this person
hero and trying to be this this person to claim a dragon because he does have
to claim a dragon because he does have dragon blood within him. He tries to do
dragon blood within him. He tries to do what Daenerys did. He has this whip and
what Daenerys did. He has this whip and he tries to whip Viserion into liking
he tries to whip Viserion into liking him or submitting to him. Quentyn is
him or submitting to him. Quentyn is never that person. He's never the strong
never that person. He's never the strong willed person or the most muscular. And
willed person or the most muscular. And he goes down in a ball of flame with
he goes down in a ball of flame with Rhaegal burning him and killing him.
Rhaegal burning him and killing him. Now, we're told he doesn't die for
Now, we're told he doesn't die for another three days. And I want to
another three days. And I want to preference. Quentyn is dead. He's not
preference. Quentyn is dead. He's not coming back. I don't care what anybody
coming back. I don't care what anybody else says. If George brings back this
else says. If George brings back this character, I will just be like, I don't
character, I will just be like, I don't even know what I would say. I'd be
even know what I would say. I'd be extremely disappointed because this
extremely disappointed because this feels like the culmination of Quentyn's
feels like the culmination of Quentyn's arc. Now, do I like really love this
arc. Now, do I like really love this chapter? No. I still have this as a
chapter? No. I still have this as a middle of the pack chapter because I
middle of the pack chapter because I don't really like Quentyn that much or
don't really like Quentyn that much or even care about him as a character to
even care about him as a character to this point. I think he's wasted more
this point. I think he's wasted more time in this story than added to it. So,
time in this story than added to it. So, at least in this chapter though, there
at least in this chapter though, there is emotion there. there is, you know, a
is emotion there. there is, you know, a feeling of tension, everything going
feeling of tension, everything going wrong, a bit of, you know, sadness that
wrong, a bit of, you know, sadness that Quentyn goes out in a very horrific way,
Quentyn goes out in a very horrific way, and you almost feel like Quentyn, why
and you almost feel like Quentyn, why are you this stupid while you're reading
are you this stupid while you're reading it? And so, yes, you know, this is the
it? And so, yes, you know, this is the conclusion of the character for me. I
conclusion of the character for me. I believe Quentyn is dead. I don't see any
believe Quentyn is dead. I don't see any relevance to really bring him back as a
relevance to really bring him back as a character. I just think he needs to die.
character. I just think he needs to die. And especially when we're trying to
And especially when we're trying to condense the story and we have far too
condense the story and we have far too many POVs in Meereine, having Quentyn be
many POVs in Meereine, having Quentyn be alive just doesn't really sit right to
alive just doesn't really sit right to me and doesn't really make all that much
me and doesn't really make all that much sense. But that ends the Quentyn arc and
sense. But that ends the Quentyn arc and gets us into the last four chapters of
gets us into the last four chapters of the book, some of the best of the entire
the book, some of the best of the entire series. So chapter 70 is the conclusion
series. So chapter 70 is the conclusion to John's arc as we get into John 13.
to John's arc as we get into John 13. And John 13 to me is the perfect
And John 13 to me is the perfect conclusion of this story. Every single
conclusion of this story. Every single chapter has been building up to this
chapter has been building up to this moment where Jon basically is portraying
moment where Jon basically is portraying what the Night's Watch believe and them
what the Night's Watch believe and them turning on him. Everything has led up to
turning on him. Everything has led up to that moment. And so, so that just
that moment. And so, so that just completely boils over here. And what I
completely boils over here. And what I think is great is, you know, regardless
think is great is, you know, regardless of what you think about Quentyn, we have
of what you think about Quentyn, we have two POV characters that basically die
two POV characters that basically die backto back with Quentyn and then Jon.
backto back with Quentyn and then Jon. And so, we start this chapter and it
And so, we start this chapter and it starts kind of calm. You know, it's Jon
starts kind of calm. You know, it's Jon planning to go to Hardhome with the
planning to go to Hardhome with the Night's Watch, the bulk majority of
Night's Watch, the bulk majority of their strength to try and relieve, you
their strength to try and relieve, you know, whatever is left of what is at
know, whatever is left of what is at Hardome. And this already gets met with
Hardome. And this already gets met with massive disapproval from people like Mel
massive disapproval from people like Mel and Cise who believe they should just
and Cise who believe they should just let them have their own fate, right? And
let them have their own fate, right? And I to an extent I agree with them because
I to an extent I agree with them because what could Jon really do if there's this
what could Jon really do if there's this big, you know, army of the others there?
big, you know, army of the others there? the Knights Watchmen just do not have
the Knights Watchmen just do not have the power and strength to fight them. We
the power and strength to fight them. We saw that for instance in the television
saw that for instance in the television show where they decided to go with Jon
show where they decided to go with Jon going to hardome uh regardless. And so I
going to hardome uh regardless. And so I do personally think it's interesting
do personally think it's interesting that we start out this chapter with Jon
that we start out this chapter with Jon having one plan and then getting bounced
having one plan and then getting bounced to another plan. And it just kind of
to another plan. And it just kind of builds up John being this leader who
builds up John being this leader who hasn't been very good at this, right?
hasn't been very good at this, right? And so when we continue on after this um
And so when we continue on after this um meeting, he decides to go forward with
meeting, he decides to go forward with it anyway and starts making the plans.
it anyway and starts making the plans. But he receives a letter and this letter
But he receives a letter and this letter has sparked a ton of discussion about
has sparked a ton of discussion about who wrote it, why they wrote it, what's
who wrote it, why they wrote it, what's the point of this letter. It's one of my
the point of this letter. It's one of my favorite discussions in the community.
favorite discussions in the community. It's one of the biggest theories on the
It's one of the biggest theories on the pink letter. It's supposedly written by
pink letter. It's supposedly written by Ramsay. It could be somebody else like
Ramsay. It could be somebody else like Mance, Stannis, Theon. There's been a
Mance, Stannis, Theon. There's been a number of theories that have come from
number of theories that have come from this, but it's so intriguing because of
this, but it's so intriguing because of what's in the letter, because of what's
what's in the letter, because of what's to come with the Battle of Ice plotline.
to come with the Battle of Ice plotline. Because we didn't get Stannis's, you
Because we didn't get Stannis's, you know, plotline to finish out this book.
know, plotline to finish out this book. We don't know what to take away from
We don't know what to take away from this letter because the last time we see
this letter because the last time we see Stannis seems like he's doing a bit
Stannis seems like he's doing a bit better, right? The banker gets there, we
better, right? The banker gets there, we have this revelation about the car
have this revelation about the car Starks,
Starks, but what truly is going on, right? And
but what truly is going on, right? And especially when you think about the
especially when you think about the wording where it says Stannis has been
wording where it says Stannis has been defeated in seven days of battle. Why
defeated in seven days of battle. Why would it take seven days of battle for
would it take seven days of battle for them to beat Stannis who at this point
them to beat Stannis who at this point seems to be pretty broken down right
seems to be pretty broken down right now? I get it. They are camped three
now? I get it. They are camped three days away from Winterfell. So maybe you
days away from Winterfell. So maybe you think three days of journeying from the
think three days of journeying from the Frey Manderly forces, a day of battle,
Frey Manderly forces, a day of battle, and three days back. But that really
and three days back. But that really wouldn't be seven days of battle. So it
wouldn't be seven days of battle. So it is interesting that the context of which
is interesting that the context of which this is written. Also, it's written that
this is written. Also, it's written that they want the hostages back. So people
they want the hostages back. So people like Mel, people like Shireen, Ciss, he
like Mel, people like Shireen, Ciss, he wants Theon and Jane Pool back or he
wants Theon and Jane Pool back or he says Arya. And so there's a lot in here
says Arya. And so there's a lot in here to kind of digest and also talk about
to kind of digest and also talk about Mansa's situation because it just
Mansa's situation because it just doesn't seem to make sense as to why
doesn't seem to make sense as to why this is being stated to us when we just
this is being stated to us when we just saw Asha's chapter, you know, a couple
saw Asha's chapter, you know, a couple chapters before. And so this has sparked
chapters before. And so this has sparked a lot of the community debate. Why is
a lot of the community debate. Why is why would Ramsay send this to John or
why would Ramsay send this to John or why would man send this to John or why
why would man send this to John or why would who why was this letter sent?
would who why was this letter sent? And so I love that introduction at the
And so I love that introduction at the very end of the book because it sparks
very end of the book because it sparks your thought process of what that
your thought process of what that actually truly means. And either way,
actually truly means. And either way, either way, whatever the motivation was,
either way, whatever the motivation was, whatever whoever wrote it, it gets Jon
whatever whoever wrote it, it gets Jon to take the bait. Obviously, it's
to take the bait. Obviously, it's basically boiling over this idea that
basically boiling over this idea that Jon has been fighting his whole time as
Jon has been fighting his whole time as a Nights Watchman, his vows, and being a
a Nights Watchman, his vows, and being a Stark. And because of the wording, he
Stark. And because of the wording, he decides to abandon the hardhome journey.
decides to abandon the hardhome journey. And this is what I think is even more
And this is what I think is even more just crazy. So this group is supposedly
just crazy. So this group is supposedly going to be led by mainly Knights
going to be led by mainly Knights Watchmen, not the actual wildlings. So
Watchmen, not the actual wildlings. So why is Tormund being named the person in
why is Tormund being named the person in charge of this venture when you know the
charge of this venture when you know the Knights Watchmen do not like the
Knights Watchmen do not like the Wildlings?
Wildlings? It just seems like a very bad plan. And
It just seems like a very bad plan. And yes, you might be thinking, well,
yes, you might be thinking, well, Tormund knows, you know, all about hard
Tormund knows, you know, all about hard home, how to get there, whatever.
home, how to get there, whatever. Making him in charge is something, you
Making him in charge is something, you know, the Knights Watchmen are not going
know, the Knights Watchmen are not going to like, and it's going to cause issues.
to like, and it's going to cause issues. So, this makes no sense to me. It's just
So, this makes no sense to me. It's just another blunder of a decision that Jon
another blunder of a decision that Jon makes very close to his death. But you
makes very close to his death. But you might be thinking, okay, well, what's
might be thinking, okay, well, what's Jon going to do then if he's not going
Jon going to do then if he's not going to lead the Nights Watchmen to Hardome?
to lead the Nights Watchmen to Hardome? Well, he's going to lead whoever wants
Well, he's going to lead whoever wants to come with him to Winterfell.
to come with him to Winterfell. And this decision goes really well with
And this decision goes really well with the Wildlings. One, because a they're
the Wildlings. One, because a they're threatening the Wildlings. The Boltons
threatening the Wildlings. The Boltons don't like the Wildlings. They're going
don't like the Wildlings. They're going to push him out, try to kill them all.
to push him out, try to kill them all. Also, you have Mance's, you know,
Also, you have Mance's, you know, whereabouts and being alive. So, of
whereabouts and being alive. So, of course, the Wildlings are going to
course, the Wildlings are going to support him. Also, Jon has done
support him. Also, Jon has done everything he can for the Wildlings, and
everything he can for the Wildlings, and so they're kind of, you know, respecting
so they're kind of, you know, respecting him a bit there. But this is the final
him a bit there. But this is the final nail, right? Everything I've talked
nail, right? Everything I've talked about throughout this entire series has
about throughout this entire series has been about Jon pushing people away, not
been about Jon pushing people away, not being able to explain his situation, all
being able to explain his situation, all those things. And you see this here
those things. And you see this here where Bowen, Marsh, and Yarwick leave
where Bowen, Marsh, and Yarwick leave this little meeting. And Jon doesn't
this little meeting. And Jon doesn't seem to care, right? John's like, "Well,
seem to care, right? John's like, "Well, at least, you know, the other nights
at least, you know, the other nights watchmen don't have to break their vows,
watchmen don't have to break their vows, all those things, but he's not
all those things, but he's not understanding inwardly how this looks on
understanding inwardly how this looks on him. He is the Lord Commander and he is
him. He is the Lord Commander and he is breaking his vows."
breaking his vows." If you're somebody else, if you're a
If you're somebody else, if you're a common, you know, person, you know,
common, you know, person, you know, you're not that high up in the nights
you're not that high up in the nights watching or seeing this, you're going,
watching or seeing this, you're going, "Well, if he can break his vows, why
"Well, if he can break his vows, why shouldn't I be able to break my vows,
shouldn't I be able to break my vows, you know, leading by example and John's
you know, leading by example and John's not doing a great job of that. He's
not doing a great job of that. He's letting his feelings and things like
letting his feelings and things like that get in the way." And that leads Jon
that get in the way." And that leads Jon to go tell Cis about the news because
to go tell Cis about the news because obviously she needs to know her husband
obviously she needs to know her husband is allegedly died. Their cause is
is allegedly died. Their cause is completely gone and Ramsay is
completely gone and Ramsay is threatening them.
threatening them. But on the way, he sees one one smash
But on the way, he sees one one smash Sir Patrick's body against a tower wall.
Sir Patrick's body against a tower wall. And as he goes to calm him, he is
And as he goes to calm him, he is attacked and betrayed by his brothers.
attacked and betrayed by his brothers. With tears in their eyes, they stab him,
With tears in their eyes, they stab him, saying, "For the watch as Jon as Jon
saying, "For the watch as Jon as Jon bleeds out slash dies." Some people also
bleeds out slash dies." Some people also believe that maybe he's just still alive
believe that maybe he's just still alive and that maybe he can be healed at this
and that maybe he can be healed at this point. I don't think so. I think he is
point. I don't think so. I think he is dead. I think he is his essence is going
dead. I think he is his essence is going into ghost at this point. But this is a
into ghost at this point. But this is a crazy cliffhanger, right? John's alleged
crazy cliffhanger, right? John's alleged death the very end of the book going
death the very end of the book going into Winds of Winter, but it feels like
into Winds of Winter, but it feels like the natural conclusion. Where I've
the natural conclusion. Where I've talked about a lot of plot lines don't
talked about a lot of plot lines don't naturally conclude in this book, Jon's
naturally conclude in this book, Jon's does. J's death being the ending of the
does. J's death being the ending of the north plot line makes a lot of sense.
north plot line makes a lot of sense. And so I think George did a really
And so I think George did a really fantastic job with Jon in this book
fantastic job with Jon in this book specifically. He's probably, you know,
specifically. He's probably, you know, up there as one of the best POVs. I say
up there as one of the best POVs. I say Theon's the cemented number one, but
Theon's the cemented number one, but he's definitely in like that top three
he's definitely in like that top three area. And I I would say this is John's
area. And I I would say this is John's second book. I could definitely see you
second book. I could definitely see you saying this is his best. I I think for
saying this is his best. I I think for me it's kind of a toss up between book
me it's kind of a toss up between book three and book five. Whichever you
three and book five. Whichever you prefer. If you like the big moments of
prefer. If you like the big moments of of book three and Jon's exploration
of book three and Jon's exploration with, you know, the Wildlings and what
with, you know, the Wildlings and what they're about and the attack on the
they're about and the attack on the wall, you're going to prefer book three.
wall, you're going to prefer book three. But if you prefer Jon, you know, as Lord
But if you prefer Jon, you know, as Lord Commander, having to make tough
Commander, having to make tough decisions and his, you know, ability to
decisions and his, you know, ability to try and integrate the Wildlings into
try and integrate the Wildlings into their culture and all that stuff, you'll
their culture and all that stuff, you'll like this book more. But personally, I
like this book more. But personally, I think a great plot line for Jon. And of
think a great plot line for Jon. And of all the plot lines, I think it ends
all the plot lines, I think it ends pretty perfectly. So, getting to chapter
pretty perfectly. So, getting to chapter 71, which is our final Barristen chapter
71, which is our final Barristen chapter of the book, it's all about kind of
of the book, it's all about kind of dealing with the fallout of what has
dealing with the fallout of what has just occurred in the last two marine
just occurred in the last two marine chapters. while also setting up the big
chapters. while also setting up the big battle. And unfortunately, you know,
battle. And unfortunately, you know, like I just got done talking about with
like I just got done talking about with Jon, where Jon's ends perfectly, Barry
Jon, where Jon's ends perfectly, Barry and the Marine plot does not. The
and the Marine plot does not. The natural spot where this seemed that it
natural spot where this seemed that it should end should have been this battle
should end should have been this battle of fire or battle of marine, but that
of fire or battle of marine, but that doesn't occur in this chapter. Now, this
doesn't occur in this chapter. Now, this is a good chapter. I don't want to take
is a good chapter. I don't want to take away from that, but it doesn't seem like
away from that, but it doesn't seem like a natural chapter to end this story on.
a natural chapter to end this story on. as the thing that ends this story. I'll
as the thing that ends this story. I'll kind of go from the, you know, the back
kind of go from the, you know, the back of this chapter to the front. But the
of this chapter to the front. But the thing that ends this chapter is
thing that ends this chapter is basically Barrison deciding that we're
basically Barrison deciding that we're going to battle the slavers as the green
going to battle the slavers as the green graces come back from negotiating with
graces come back from negotiating with them and they declare that they want
them and they declare that they want both the dragons killed to even have any
both the dragons killed to even have any type of peace. Obviously, Barrison's not
type of peace. Obviously, Barrison's not going to do that. And so, we then see as
going to do that. And so, we then see as the trebuchets launch corpses into the
the trebuchets launch corpses into the city, hoping to more than likely spread
city, hoping to more than likely spread the plague and as a kind of a fear
the plague and as a kind of a fear factor. And so that all sounds good and
factor. And so that all sounds good and well, right? That's a great place to end
well, right? That's a great place to end a chapter, but that doesn't feel like a
a chapter, but that doesn't feel like a great place to end a plotline for an
great place to end a plotline for an entire book. It feels like there's
entire book. It feels like there's something that's not resolved there that
something that's not resolved there that we should have seen some conflict
we should have seen some conflict between the slavers and the free men at
between the slavers and the free men at some point and it just got pushed to
some point and it just got pushed to Winds of Winter, unfortunately. But we
Winds of Winter, unfortunately. But we see that Quentyn has died after 3 days
see that Quentyn has died after 3 days from the incident in his chapters.
from the incident in his chapters. Barristan prompts that he will hopefully
Barristan prompts that he will hopefully be sent back to the Dornish and he is
be sent back to the Dornish and he is prompted by Scahas to start the council
prompted by Scahas to start the council where they discuss a lot of different
where they discuss a lot of different issues. The sons of the harpy have not
issues. The sons of the harpy have not reacted well to his DAR being put in
reacted well to his DAR being put in prison so they've started their killings
prison so they've started their killings once again. Again, this would seem to
once again. Again, this would seem to indicate Hisdar has some connection to
indicate Hisdar has some connection to them. We also see there have been a
them. We also see there have been a protest for Hisdar to be released as
protest for Hisdar to be released as well. The captives that the Yunish have
well. The captives that the Yunish have that's, you know, how do they fix that
that's, you know, how do they fix that issue? Do they still have some of
issue? Do they still have some of Daenerys's captives? Tactics again of
Daenerys's captives? Tactics again of the coming battle is also discussed.
the coming battle is also discussed. What are they going to do? And they
What are they going to do? And they basically come to the idea that they
basically come to the idea that they need to take out the slavers. If they do
need to take out the slavers. If they do that, then the other slave and the
that, then the other slave and the other, you know, sell sword companies
other, you know, sell sword companies will fall back in line. But yeah, so
will fall back in line. But yeah, so it's really just a kind of a setup
it's really just a kind of a setup chapter mixed with also having a bit of
chapter mixed with also having a bit of a payoff to like the battle is going to
a payoff to like the battle is going to start, but it doesn't start in this
start, but it doesn't start in this book. So I would say a kind of a
book. So I would say a kind of a disappointing finish for Barristen in
disappointing finish for Barristen in this book, but albeit not a bad chapter
this book, but albeit not a bad chapter whatsoever.
whatsoever. So chapter 72 in the last main POV
So chapter 72 in the last main POV chapter before we get to the epilogue is
chapter before we get to the epilogue is Daenerys 10. And Daenerys 10 to me is a
Daenerys 10. And Daenerys 10 to me is a chapter that I almost go back and forth
chapter that I almost go back and forth on because in terms of it concluding all
on because in terms of it concluding all of the main POV stories, it's kind of a
of the main POV stories, it's kind of a weird one because it's a chapter that
weird one because it's a chapter that just doesn't have like a really big high
just doesn't have like a really big high moment to it to end out the series. You
moment to it to end out the series. You know, if you think about a game of
know, if you think about a game of thrones, right, some of the ending
thrones, right, some of the ending chapters that you have there where, you
chapters that you have there where, you know, you have Daenerys awakening the
know, you have Daenerys awakening the dragons, Rob becoming king of the north,
dragons, Rob becoming king of the north, Jon picking side, like he's going to
Jon picking side, like he's going to stay with the Night's Watch, you know,
stay with the Night's Watch, you know, Tyrion being named Hand of the King. You
Tyrion being named Hand of the King. You don't really have that here, right? It's
don't really have that here, right? It's just showing us Daenerys what happened
just showing us Daenerys what happened after Meereen. She's landed kind of in
after Meereen. She's landed kind of in the do in the Dothraki sea on this
the do in the Dothraki sea on this random like rock face more or less
random like rock face more or less that's basically become Drogon's home
that's basically become Drogon's home which Daenerys thematically names
which Daenerys thematically names Dragonstone which is I think is pretty
Dragonstone which is I think is pretty cool but we don't really see much right
cool but we don't really see much right it's kind of Daenerys just wandering
it's kind of Daenerys just wandering around the Dothraki Sea hoping she's
around the Dothraki Sea hoping she's going south to marine
going south to marine it's not anything crazy I mean the the
it's not anything crazy I mean the the good stuff of this chapter which I think
good stuff of this chapter which I think is good is we get a little bit more into
is good is we get a little bit more into the connection between the dragon in the
the connection between the dragon in the rider. Even though Daenerys has been
rider. Even though Daenerys has been able to ride Drogon, that doesn't mean
able to ride Drogon, that doesn't mean Drogon obeys her. Drogon is not willing
Drogon obeys her. Drogon is not willing to fly her back to Meereine and always
to fly her back to Meereine and always comes back to this little it feels like
comes back to this little it feels like an island within the Dothraki Sea. And
an island within the Dothraki Sea. And so you see a little bit of that
so you see a little bit of that connection which is really fascinating.
connection which is really fascinating. I I think her hallucinations in terms of
I I think her hallucinations in terms of when she sees Viseris and Jorah and
when she sees Viseris and Jorah and Quaith, it all seems to have this theme
Quaith, it all seems to have this theme of remembering who you are, which has
of remembering who you are, which has been a very present theme of this book
been a very present theme of this book specifically. And so, in that aspects of
specifically. And so, in that aspects of it, I really like it because it ties
it, I really like it because it ties into Daenerys's past and who she needs
into Daenerys's past and who she needs to become really well. But at the same
to become really well. But at the same time, a lot of this chapter is Daenerys
time, a lot of this chapter is Daenerys is wandering around starving,
is wandering around starving, dehydrated, just walking around kind of
dehydrated, just walking around kind of aimlessly,
aimlessly, getting sick, more or less. It just
getting sick, more or less. It just feels like a very weird chapter to end
feels like a very weird chapter to end on for Daenerys. I think the natural
on for Daenerys. I think the natural ending for Daenerys felt more normal
ending for Daenerys felt more normal with Daenerys 9,
with Daenerys 9, but I don't hate this chapter either.
but I don't hate this chapter either. Like, it's not a bad chapter. It's just
Like, it's not a bad chapter. It's just a kind of a casual Daenerys chapter.
a kind of a casual Daenerys chapter. Once again, it's just kind of in the
Once again, it's just kind of in the middle, right? It's just, you know, it's
middle, right? It's just, you know, it's there. And kind of how I felt about
there. And kind of how I felt about Daenerys the entire book. I think she
Daenerys the entire book. I think she has good elements to some of her
has good elements to some of her chapters and then bad elements to some
chapters and then bad elements to some of her chapters. It just kind of swings
of her chapters. It just kind of swings back and forth depending on where you
back and forth depending on where you are in her chapter. And so, it feels
are in her chapter. And so, it feels almost like a natural point of like this
almost like a natural point of like this is basically what Daenerys has been in
is basically what Daenerys has been in this book. But I do find it weird
this book. But I do find it weird because it almost feels like like
because it almost feels like like Daenerys 10 almost feels like it should
Daenerys 10 almost feels like it should have been Daenerys one of wins of winter
have been Daenerys one of wins of winter because it kind of is a good catch-up of
because it kind of is a good catch-up of everything that's happened because you
everything that's happened because you haven't been with Daenerys for a while
haven't been with Daenerys for a while after Daenerys 9 to Daenerys 10. It's
after Daenerys 9 to Daenerys 10. It's quite a bit of a gap.
quite a bit of a gap. But I don't know. But at the same time,
But I don't know. But at the same time, I also understand why George wanted to
I also understand why George wanted to have the end of this book show us where
have the end of this book show us where she's going to go in the next book with
she's going to go in the next book with the Dothraki. So, I don't know. I'm kind
the Dothraki. So, I don't know. I'm kind of back and forth on the placement of
of back and forth on the placement of this chapter. I almost feel like
this chapter. I almost feel like Daenerys 10, if it was going to be a
Daenerys 10, if it was going to be a chapter, should have been pushed back a
chapter, should have been pushed back a bit. I think personally John 13 should
bit. I think personally John 13 should have been this chapter. I think it
have been this chapter. I think it should have been placed right before the
should have been placed right before the epilogue,
epilogue, but who knows? Maybe you put Daenerys
but who knows? Maybe you put Daenerys and John's spot and then you separate.
and John's spot and then you separate. So you have one separating Barrison and
So you have one separating Barrison and Quentyn.
Quentyn. I don't know. Let me know what you guys
I don't know. Let me know what you guys think about the placement of Daenerys 10
think about the placement of Daenerys 10 at the very end besides the epilogue.
at the very end besides the epilogue. But yeah, so let's move on to the last
But yeah, so let's move on to the last chapter of A Dance Dragons, chapter 73.
chapter of A Dance Dragons, chapter 73. And in my opinion, this is the perfect
And in my opinion, this is the perfect chapter to end on. I have it ranked
chapter to end on. I have it ranked again within my top 10. It's number
again within my top 10. It's number nine. I really loved being inside Kevin
nine. I really loved being inside Kevin Lannister's head. we get to see a small
Lannister's head. we get to see a small council meeting that feels like some of
council meeting that feels like some of the older council meetings with
the older council meetings with characters like, you know, for instance,
characters like, you know, for instance, Ned and Littlefinger and Varys. It felt
Ned and Littlefinger and Varys. It felt a lot like that. It's a lot of an info
a lot like that. It's a lot of an info dump almost of what's going on in the
dump almost of what's going on in the world and how Kevin Lannister and the
world and how Kevin Lannister and the Lannister regime is going to react
Lannister regime is going to react against those. A heavy part of the first
against those. A heavy part of the first half of this chapter focuses on the
half of this chapter focuses on the threat of Young Griffith and the Golden
threat of Young Griffith and the Golden Company. And Kevin Lannister is kind of
Company. And Kevin Lannister is kind of in a weird position because his standing
in a weird position because his standing army, like his power is not with him.
army, like his power is not with him. It's actually in the Riverlands with
It's actually in the Riverlands with Jaime and you also have Jaime who's
Jaime and you also have Jaime who's disappeared. So Lannisters very much
disappeared. So Lannisters very much have to rely on the Tyrells and have to
have to rely on the Tyrells and have to basically allow them to gain more power.
basically allow them to gain more power. They can't really stop it. And so Kevin
They can't really stop it. And so Kevin Lannister realizes that, but he also is
Lannister realizes that, but he also is using their armies. He's using the
using their armies. He's using the Tyrell army to go deal with the Golden
Tyrell army to go deal with the Golden Company at Storm's End. He's using the
Company at Storm's End. He's using the Red Wine Fleet to go deal with Euron in
Red Wine Fleet to go deal with Euron in the west. So, it's kind of showing where
the west. So, it's kind of showing where all the pieces are before we head into
all the pieces are before we head into Winds of Winter, and it really works
Winds of Winter, and it really works well because you have us refreshing.
well because you have us refreshing. It's almost a summary of a lot of the
It's almost a summary of a lot of the main plots. You also mentioned Daenerys
main plots. You also mentioned Daenerys in this, like they don't want Daenerys
in this, like they don't want Daenerys to link up with young griffs. They need
to link up with young griffs. They need to deal with this swiftly. I really do
to deal with this swiftly. I really do enjoy a lot of what we get at the small
enjoy a lot of what we get at the small council meeting and how you even see
council meeting and how you even see Kevin who kind of sympathizes with
Kevin who kind of sympathizes with Cersei a bit because he's becoming
Cersei a bit because he's becoming incredibly annoyed and frustrated with
incredibly annoyed and frustrated with the Tyrells, but he knows, you know, he
the Tyrells, but he knows, you know, he needs them. So, I think that part of the
needs them. So, I think that part of the chapter is fantastic. I always enjoy the
chapter is fantastic. I always enjoy the small council meetings and especially
small council meetings and especially through Kevin's eyes who's always always
through Kevin's eyes who's always always who's always been overlooked as a
who's always been overlooked as a character being in Tywin's shadow. I
character being in Tywin's shadow. I thought this was a perfect character to
thought this was a perfect character to end it on. So, we then transition to the
end it on. So, we then transition to the next phase of this chapter, which is the
next phase of this chapter, which is the dinner sequence with Cersei. And this
dinner sequence with Cersei. And this also is really interesting because we
also is really interesting because we don't know how Cersei is feeling after
don't know how Cersei is feeling after the walk of atonement. And so it's great
the walk of atonement. And so it's great because it puts us into the eyes of of
because it puts us into the eyes of of Kevin Lannister, the head of Kevin
Kevin Lannister, the head of Kevin Lannister, where Cersei seems to be a
Lannister, where Cersei seems to be a tamed lion. She seems to have lost all
tamed lion. She seems to have lost all that pride and and I mean arrogancy that
that pride and and I mean arrogancy that she used to have. She seems more docile.
she used to have. She seems more docile. And so when you look at that, you're
And so when you look at that, you're thinking and in my head I'm thinking I'm
thinking and in my head I'm thinking I'm reading this seems all to be an act. Or
reading this seems all to be an act. Or is this truly Cersei has changed? And
is this truly Cersei has changed? And that's what Kevin Lannister has to play
that's what Kevin Lannister has to play through his head. And Kevin Lannister,
through his head. And Kevin Lannister, you know, he even thinks about things
you know, he even thinks about things that happened in the past, right? How
that happened in the past, right? How Cersei was supposed to be, you know,
Cersei was supposed to be, you know, married to Rhaegar, but that never went
married to Rhaegar, but that never went through. But what could have happened
through. But what could have happened differently that occurred even for
differently that occurred even for Cersei herself.
Cersei herself. It's very interesting to see the way
It's very interesting to see the way Kevin looks at those events because you
Kevin looks at those events because you also think about a Storm of Swords where
also think about a Storm of Swords where Kevin was the person that interacted
Kevin was the person that interacted with Tyrion when he was the one in the
with Tyrion when he was the one in the cells and how he kind of goes against
cells and how he kind of goes against Tyrion. Now, I don't blame him for that.
Tyrion. Now, I don't blame him for that. all the evidence or evidence that he was
all the evidence or evidence that he was seeing all went against him and Tyrion
seeing all went against him and Tyrion didn't really have a great defense. But
didn't really have a great defense. But it kind of interesting the way you think
it kind of interesting the way you think about how Kevin views Cersei versus
about how Kevin views Cersei versus someone like Tyrion. And so this diner
someone like Tyrion. And so this diner goes about as well as it can go and all
goes about as well as it can go and all of a sudden Pycel apparently calls for
of a sudden Pycel apparently calls for Kevin Lannister. This is very suspicious
Kevin Lannister. This is very suspicious right off the bat just based upon the
right off the bat just based upon the fact that the two were just speaking
fact that the two were just speaking only a couple pages, you know, ago.
only a couple pages, you know, ago. You're not going to see it coming, of
You're not going to see it coming, of course. But the thing is, it's like, hm,
course. But the thing is, it's like, hm, nice little interesting tidbit on a
nice little interesting tidbit on a reread to think about like, hm, that
reread to think about like, hm, that shouldn't really make much sense. You
shouldn't really make much sense. You guys were just with each other. And
guys were just with each other. And another thing to kind of foreshadow the
another thing to kind of foreshadow the events to come and the winds of winter
events to come and the winds of winter is that it seems to be heavily snowing
is that it seems to be heavily snowing at King's Landing. Winter has finally
at King's Landing. Winter has finally come for the south, hence the name for
come for the south, hence the name for the next book, The Winds of Winter. But
the next book, The Winds of Winter. But as Kevin Lannister gets to the rook to
as Kevin Lannister gets to the rook to the rookery, there's no one that seems
the rookery, there's no one that seems to be here. And as Kevin Lannister seems
to be here. And as Kevin Lannister seems to just almost leave, he is hit by a
to just almost leave, he is hit by a crossbow bolt. And this is the worst way
crossbow bolt. And this is the worst way that Kevin Lannister could possibly die
that Kevin Lannister could possibly die in his head. Going out the same way that
in his head. Going out the same way that his brother, who is always in the shadow
his brother, who is always in the shadow of went out as well. But it comes as
of went out as well. But it comes as this massive reveal because Varys has
this massive reveal because Varys has been nowhere to be found the entire
been nowhere to be found the entire book. And Kevin hearing this monologue
book. And Kevin hearing this monologue by Varys is one of the most interesting
by Varys is one of the most interesting and awesome ways to foreshadow the next
and awesome ways to foreshadow the next book as he gives his speech about young
book as he gives his speech about young Griff and even commends Kevin for doing
Griff and even commends Kevin for doing a good job almost taunting him on his
a good job almost taunting him on his deathbed. But all this comes to a head
deathbed. But all this comes to a head as you know Kevin is questioning how
as you know Kevin is questioning how young Griff or Aegon could truly be him.
young Griff or Aegon could truly be him. but he is cut off as a little birds
but he is cut off as a little birds arrive to finish the job of Kevin
arrive to finish the job of Kevin Lannister and that ends the book. Now, I
Lannister and that ends the book. Now, I think this is the perfect ending for
think this is the perfect ending for Dance of the Dragons. And I want to say
Dance of the Dragons. And I want to say towards the end of this, you know, as
towards the end of this, you know, as I'm kind of winding down in this video,
I'm kind of winding down in this video, we'll talk about the conclusion and
we'll talk about the conclusion and we'll talk about the POV rankings, all
we'll talk about the POV rankings, all that stuff.
that stuff. I do want to say I think the reason that
I do want to say I think the reason that Dance Dragons is I think regarded more
Dance Dragons is I think regarded more fondly by the casual fan base than say
fondly by the casual fan base than say something you know like A Feast for
something you know like A Feast for Crows is based upon the ending. Again,
Crows is based upon the ending. Again, remember within the last 20 chapters, 25
remember within the last 20 chapters, 25 chapters we've done, how many of those
chapters we've done, how many of those have actually been in my top 10? I even
have actually been in my top 10? I even gave you guys the number. I said seven
gave you guys the number. I said seven earlier on in the video. This book ends
earlier on in the video. This book ends on a very, very high note. It might not
on a very, very high note. It might not be a complete high note because some of
be a complete high note because some of the plot lines don't naturally conclude
the plot lines don't naturally conclude to where they should be, but a lot of
to where they should be, but a lot of them do.
them do. It end it ends on this such an
It end it ends on this such an intriguing note where you just want to
intriguing note where you just want to keep reading more. You want to see what
keep reading more. You want to see what you going to do. You want to see how the
you going to do. You want to see how the Jon Snow plot line's going to go now
Jon Snow plot line's going to go now that he's dead. You want to see the
that he's dead. You want to see the battle of ice. You want to see the
battle of ice. You want to see the battle of fire. So, it ends on this note
battle of fire. So, it ends on this note that makes you want to keep reading.
that makes you want to keep reading. It's like, for instance, think about any
It's like, for instance, think about any type of addicting game, right? where you
type of addicting game, right? where you you get to this level and you say you
you get to this level and you say you want to you're going to stop, but you
want to you're going to stop, but you just want to keep going because you want
just want to keep going because you want to know what happens. That's the way A
to know what happens. That's the way A Dance of Dragons ends. And so I want to
Dance of Dragons ends. And so I want to compare this because I think the show is
compare this because I think the show is a great comparison to this is that if
a great comparison to this is that if you think about A Dance of Dragons and A
you think about A Dance of Dragons and A Feast for Crows, I personally think A
Feast for Crows, I personally think A Feast for Crows is better than A Dance
Feast for Crows is better than A Dance Dragons because I think that A Feast for
Dragons because I think that A Feast for Crows is more is more consistently good
Crows is more is more consistently good in terms of chapter to chapter where A
in terms of chapter to chapter where A Dance Dragons is a roller coaster. You
Dance Dragons is a roller coaster. You have some chapters that are all the way
have some chapters that are all the way up here. They're great chapters. staples
up here. They're great chapters. staples of the entire series. You have a lot of
of the entire series. You have a lot of chapters down here where, you know,
chapters down here where, you know, they're just not very good. Like, I
they're just not very good. Like, I would say there's a number of chapters
would say there's a number of chapters in this book that are the worst of the
in this book that are the worst of the series. Like, if I was going to do a top
series. Like, if I was going to do a top 10 worst chapters of the series, I think
10 worst chapters of the series, I think almost half of them would be chapters
almost half of them would be chapters from this book.
from this book. And so it's almost like season five and
And so it's almost like season five and season six where I think season six ends
season six where I think season six ends on such a high note like a dance of
on such a high note like a dance of dragons does that people almost forget
dragons does that people almost forget some of the other things that were in
some of the other things that were in there like Tyrion and like Quentyn and
there like Tyrion and like Quentyn and some of the other times where the book's
some of the other times where the book's just not as good. That's not to say that
just not as good. That's not to say that season five and season 6 are even close
season five and season 6 are even close to the quality of A Dance Dragons Fast
to the quality of A Dance Dragons Fast for Crows, but it's kind of how I'm
for Crows, but it's kind of how I'm going to represent it because I think
going to represent it because I think they're they're kind of similar in a
they're they're kind of similar in a way. Like I think season 5 in terms of
way. Like I think season 5 in terms of quality from episode to episode is
quality from episode to episode is better than season 6, but yet season 6
better than season 6, but yet season 6 ends on a much higher note than season 5
ends on a much higher note than season 5 does. So most people will remember and
does. So most people will remember and think about season 6 being better than
think about season 6 being better than season 5 because it just has more
season 5 because it just has more standout moments. You remember more
standout moments. You remember more things from Dance than you're going to
things from Dance than you're going to with Feast. I think this is especially
with Feast. I think this is especially true with casual uh readers, people that
true with casual uh readers, people that have only read the books once or twice,
have only read the books once or twice, maybe. Easter Crows is the one that
maybe. Easter Crows is the one that usually people don't like as much on
usually people don't like as much on their first read or two and then as you
their first read or two and then as you reread it, I think you appreciate it
reread it, I think you appreciate it much more. But that is kind of the end
much more. But that is kind of the end of my Dance Dragons, at least my chapter
of my Dance Dragons, at least my chapter by chapter breakdown. I want to rank
by chapter breakdown. I want to rank every single POV within Adance Dragons.
every single POV within Adance Dragons. There are a lot of them and I want to
There are a lot of them and I want to kind of give my thoughts on the book as
kind of give my thoughts on the book as well just in a POV ranking within
well just in a POV ranking within Adanced Dragons. So I do have some
Adanced Dragons. So I do have some things that I use to rank these POVs.
things that I use to rank these POVs. Now, the first thing is consistency.
Now, the first thing is consistency. Just based upon chapter to chapter, how
Just based upon chapter to chapter, how good is your POV overall, right? Do you
good is your POV overall, right? Do you have some really good chapters, some
have some really good chapters, some really bad chapters, some mid chapters?
really bad chapters, some mid chapters? On average, when I open up, when I go to
On average, when I open up, when I go to your chapter, right? So, say Daenerys
your chapter, right? So, say Daenerys for instance, what should I be
for instance, what should I be expecting, right? Based upon this book,
expecting, right? Based upon this book, am I expecting a pretty mid chapter? Am
am I expecting a pretty mid chapter? Am I expecting a pretty good chapter?
I expecting a pretty good chapter? Whatever. Another thing is, how
Whatever. Another thing is, how entertaining are they as a POV? like how
entertaining are they as a POV? like how entertaining is it to be in their head
entertaining is it to be in their head as a character? For instance, one of my
as a character? For instance, one of my favorites from A Feast for Crows was
favorites from A Feast for Crows was Jaime. It's really awesome to be in his
Jaime. It's really awesome to be in his head because he has some really
head because he has some really interesting uh moral dilemmas that he's
interesting uh moral dilemmas that he's trying to work towards in that book. And
trying to work towards in that book. And so that's a big part of it as well.
so that's a big part of it as well. There is some that's just okay, I have
There is some that's just okay, I have favorite characters, so that might
favorite characters, so that might influence how I look at them as a POV. I
influence how I look at them as a POV. I think how much a character forwards the
think how much a character forwards the plot is very important as well. and how
plot is very important as well. and how do they mix that with character
do they mix that with character development and world building as well.
development and world building as well. Something that George really struggles
Something that George really struggles with, I think, in the the last two books
with, I think, in the the last two books of the series is how does he expand the
of the series is how does he expand the world while also forwarding the plot and
world while also forwarding the plot and forwarding the POV character that we
forwarding the POV character that we have and the characters around them. I
have and the characters around them. I think that's something he struggled a
think that's something he struggled a lot more with in the last two books than
lot more with in the last two books than he did with the first three. I think the
he did with the first three. I think the reason is because in the first I think
reason is because in the first I think especially the first book the chapters
especially the first book the chapters were much smaller and so you had to be
were much smaller and so you had to be very direct with how you're telling the
very direct with how you're telling the story. You had to you know maybe cut out
story. You had to you know maybe cut out some of the world building because a lot
some of the world building because a lot of it was for character development and
of it was for character development and moving the plot forward. Dragons doesn't
moving the plot forward. Dragons doesn't do that nearly as well in my opinion. So
do that nearly as well in my opinion. So let's get into the list. So number 18, I
let's get into the list. So number 18, I think this is nobody's surprise is
think this is nobody's surprise is Quentyn. I did not enjoy reading Quentyn
Quentyn. I did not enjoy reading Quentyn in this book. Uh I I think you know of
in this book. Uh I I think you know of all the POVs in each of the books, there
all the POVs in each of the books, there are very few ones that I say I just
are very few ones that I say I just genuinely do not like and hate. Quentyn
genuinely do not like and hate. Quentyn is one of those. Quentyn serves no
is one of those. Quentyn serves no purpose in my opinion to the story
purpose in my opinion to the story outside of his last chapter. I think if
outside of his last chapter. I think if you erase Quentyn completely and and
you erase Quentyn completely and and have him just sprout up when he does
have him just sprout up when he does with in Daenerys's POV and then just
with in Daenerys's POV and then just have Quentyn maybe give the quick
have Quentyn maybe give the quick summary of what you know happened
summary of what you know happened basically off the book page that we
basically off the book page that we didn't see would have worked just as
didn't see would have worked just as well in my opinion. And so I get why
well in my opinion. And so I get why Quentyn's here because somebody has to
Quentyn's here because somebody has to release the dragons and you want this
release the dragons and you want this impactful death at the end of the book.
impactful death at the end of the book. Personally, I didn't enjoy I didn't
Personally, I didn't enjoy I didn't enjoy the character of Quentyn. I think
enjoy the character of Quentyn. I think he had way too many convenient
he had way too many convenient contrivances. It almost felt like his
contrivances. It almost felt like his whole journey with the wind blown just
whole journey with the wind blown just felt kind of odd to me. It felt like,
felt kind of odd to me. It felt like, oh, you know, that's convenient. We have
oh, you know, that's convenient. We have no way of getting to Daenerys and
no way of getting to Daenerys and instantly we find the Cell Sword
instantly we find the Cell Sword company. And you know, that and of of
company. And you know, that and of of itself is is fine, but it's when you
itself is is fine, but it's when you have a lot of those things where it's,
have a lot of those things where it's, oh, okay, uh, Quentyn needs to get to
oh, okay, uh, Quentyn needs to get to Marine to speak to Daenerys. Oh, well,
Marine to speak to Daenerys. Oh, well, the windb blown are now going to have a
the windb blown are now going to have a mission where they specifically give
mission where they specifically give Quentyn and a number of others to flip
Quentyn and a number of others to flip to go to Daenerys's side. It's just a
to go to Daenerys's side. It's just a lot of conveniences that if they're
lot of conveniences that if they're isolated, they can make sense. But when
isolated, they can make sense. But when you have so many of them happening just
you have so many of them happening just in Quentyn's plotline,
in Quentyn's plotline, it just doesn't feel that great. It
it just doesn't feel that great. It doesn't feel like a normal story. And
doesn't feel like a normal story. And Quentyn himself is a character that I
Quentyn himself is a character that I don't really enjoy that much. He doesn't
don't really enjoy that much. He doesn't have all that much of a personality or a
have all that much of a personality or a character. So by the time he dies, I
character. So by the time he dies, I don't really care all that much about
don't really care all that much about him. I'm kind of glad he's out of the
him. I'm kind of glad he's out of the story. So Quentin, you know, I know he
story. So Quentin, you know, I know he has four chapters, which is more than a
has four chapters, which is more than a lot of the characters on this list, or
lot of the characters on this list, or at least equal to a good amount of them,
at least equal to a good amount of them, but I just didn't enjoy reading him.
but I just didn't enjoy reading him. Number 17, I think, is a big surprise
Number 17, I think, is a big surprise just based on how I rank, you know,
just based on how I rank, you know, characters. I think for me, I personally
characters. I think for me, I personally value a character having a lot of POV
value a character having a lot of POV chapters because that means we're
chapters because that means we're getting a lot of substance from the
getting a lot of substance from the story through this character, right?
story through this character, right? They're a major focal point of the
They're a major focal point of the story. And unfortunately for Dance of
story. And unfortunately for Dance of Dragons, Tyrion, who has the second most
Dragons, Tyrion, who has the second most amount of chapters in this book at 12,
amount of chapters in this book at 12, he is just not very good in this book at
he is just not very good in this book at all. Uh he never really hits the heights
all. Uh he never really hits the heights of a lot of the other major POVs. his
of a lot of the other major POVs. his best chapter in my opinion comes when
best chapter in my opinion comes when he's with young Griff and the reveal of
he's with young Griff and the reveal of of Aegon. And outside of that, like like
of Aegon. And outside of that, like like after he leaves Young Griff and he goes,
after he leaves Young Griff and he goes, you know, you get into more like Tyrion
you know, you get into more like Tyrion 6, seven, and forwards, his plotline is
6, seven, and forwards, his plotline is just I dreaded reading his plotline.
just I dreaded reading his plotline. Part of why I think I, you know, paused
Part of why I think I, you know, paused when I did with this series is a lot of
when I did with this series is a lot of because you get a lot of Tyrion and a
because you get a lot of Tyrion and a lot of Quentyn and they're just not very
lot of Quentyn and they're just not very good at the beginning of the book. Um,
good at the beginning of the book. Um, well, Tyrion, Tyrion, I think, is is
well, Tyrion, Tyrion, I think, is is good until he gets to about Tyrion five
good until he gets to about Tyrion five or not Tyrion five. Tyrion six and then
or not Tyrion five. Tyrion six and then Tyrion 7. It's just a lot of things
Tyrion 7. It's just a lot of things where Tyrion in this book should have
where Tyrion in this book should have been cut down. He feels like a character
been cut down. He feels like a character that is just he's just traveling. I
that is just he's just traveling. I mean, a lot of chapters he's just
mean, a lot of chapters he's just traveling. Um, there isn't a whole lot
traveling. Um, there isn't a whole lot of characters around Tyrion that he can
of characters around Tyrion that he can use his wit. And so, I think this is one
use his wit. And so, I think this is one of the biggest falls from Grace because
of the biggest falls from Grace because Tyrion was so interesting in the last
Tyrion was so interesting in the last two books and Storm of Swords and Clash
two books and Storm of Swords and Clash of Kings that he was in. And this book,
of Kings that he was in. And this book, he just didn't really have many people
he just didn't really have many people around him make his POVs all that
around him make his POVs all that interesting. Um, Penny is a character
interesting. Um, Penny is a character that is kind of like Sansa in a way
that is kind of like Sansa in a way where she's very innocent to the world
where she's very innocent to the world and things like that and it doesn't
and things like that and it doesn't really play off with Tyrion all that
really play off with Tyrion all that well in my opinion. And then you also
well in my opinion. And then you also have him with Jorah and Jorah is just
have him with Jorah and Jorah is just kind of this brute that isn't all that
kind of this brute that isn't all that interesting. And so, especially the
interesting. And so, especially the second half of his arc, he just doesn't
second half of his arc, he just doesn't have a good supporting cast around him.
have a good supporting cast around him. And it really shows and hurts him as a
And it really shows and hurts him as a character. And you start to see the old
character. And you start to see the old version of Tyrion where he actually has
version of Tyrion where he actually has some characters around him to play off
some characters around him to play off of with Brown Ben Plum, especially like
of with Brown Ben Plum, especially like in the last two chapters he has. But you
in the last two chapters he has. But you know that period, you know, Tyrion 6,
know that period, you know, Tyrion 6, seven, eight, you know, 9 10 is a tough
seven, eight, you know, 9 10 is a tough part of the book. It's just a tough part
part of the book. It's just a tough part of the book. And Tyrion to me, you know,
of the book. And Tyrion to me, you know, he has some good chapters, but they're
he has some good chapters, but they're very few and far between at times. And
very few and far between at times. And so I put a lot of, you know, characters
so I put a lot of, you know, characters that have only one or two chapters above
that have only one or two chapters above him because at least their chapters they
him because at least their chapters they show up in are usually pretty good. So
show up in are usually pretty good. So yeah, I I'm not a big fan of Tyrion in
yeah, I I'm not a big fan of Tyrion in this book. I I think he he needed to be
this book. I I think he he needed to be cut down to maybe seven to eight
cut down to maybe seven to eight chapters and that would have helped us
chapters and that would have helped us get to more important things in this
get to more important things in this book like the battle of ice and fire
book like the battle of ice and fire which in my opinion would have also then
which in my opinion would have also then helped Tyrion as a character because he
helped Tyrion as a character because he also has in my opinion the weakest
also has in my opinion the weakest conclusion of all the main characters as
conclusion of all the main characters as his conclusion is just we're going to
his conclusion is just we're going to convince the second sons to to flip to
convince the second sons to to flip to Daenerys's side. It's like, hey, that
Daenerys's side. It's like, hey, that kind of seems obvious, right? Like, he
kind of seems obvious, right? Like, he just has a very weak conclusion because
just has a very weak conclusion because we don't get to see the battle of fire.
we don't get to see the battle of fire. Number 16. So, number 16 is Vamir. I
Number 16. So, number 16 is Vamir. I I've kind of said this in the past. Of
I've kind of said this in the past. Of all the prologus, Vamir is my least
all the prologus, Vamir is my least favorite. And I don't think, you know,
favorite. And I don't think, you know, the prologue's bad to this book by any
the prologue's bad to this book by any means, but to me, all the things I enjoy
means, but to me, all the things I enjoy about The World of A Song of West and
about The World of A Song of West and Fire are more of the nittygritty, the
Fire are more of the nittygritty, the more politicky real life type stuff, the
more politicky real life type stuff, the dark fantasy elements of the story. Um,
dark fantasy elements of the story. Um, the anti-war themes. I've been someone
the anti-war themes. I've been someone that always has never been a huge fan of
that always has never been a huge fan of like magic in fantasy. Um, you know, you
like magic in fantasy. Um, you know, you think about, for instance, Lord of the
think about, for instance, Lord of the Rings, or you think about the Dragon Age
Rings, or you think about the Dragon Age series, video game series by the way, or
series, video game series by the way, or Dn D. I'm never somebody that like leans
Dn D. I'm never somebody that like leans towards the magical. I like more of the
towards the magical. I like more of the the realistic um sense. And so, this
the realistic um sense. And so, this chapter just I don't think is for me,
chapter just I don't think is for me, uh, because it's very linked to only
uh, because it's very linked to only really two plot lines. It's really
really two plot lines. It's really linked heavily to Bran's plotline and
linked heavily to Bran's plotline and then somewhat to Jon's plotline because
then somewhat to Jon's plotline because it's the fallout of the Battle of the
it's the fallout of the Battle of the Wall. And you also have that warging
Wall. And you also have that warging ability that's probably going to come
ability that's probably going to come into effect with Jon going into ghost
into effect with Jon going into ghost and living through ghost for a while.
and living through ghost for a while. And so the chapter does have
And so the chapter does have implications and teaches us a bit more
implications and teaches us a bit more about how waring works and things like
about how waring works and things like that. But I don't find this chapter to
that. But I don't find this chapter to be as entertaining as others, especially
be as entertaining as others, especially ones that have only one chapter like
ones that have only one chapter like Kevin, Mel, Jaime, those other
Kevin, Mel, Jaime, those other counterparts. So Vamir, again, I think
counterparts. So Vamir, again, I think it just isn't for me personally. I know
it just isn't for me personally. I know a lot of people really like Vamir uh for
a lot of people really like Vamir uh for the first chapter of this book. I'm not
the first chapter of this book. I'm not the biggest fan. Number 15, I have Arya
the biggest fan. Number 15, I have Arya Hoda. Now, Arya Hoda, it's so weird
Hoda. Now, Arya Hoda, it's so weird because the content and the things that
because the content and the things that happen in his chapters are usually
happen in his chapters are usually really good and really paced really
really good and really paced really well. It's just the fact that Aryod is
well. It's just the fact that Aryod is not an entertaining POV. I don't like
not an entertaining POV. I don't like being in Arya's head. Um I I think he is
being in Arya's head. Um I I think he is harried by the fact that he always gets
harried by the fact that he always gets to be the POV look into with you know
to be the POV look into with you know Duran or Arian.
Duran or Arian. I find it kind of baffling in my opinion
I find it kind of baffling in my opinion that we didn't get this POV that Hoda
that we didn't get this POV that Hoda gets as Arian because if Aron had been
gets as Arian because if Aron had been the POV for this chapter specifically
the POV for this chapter specifically that Hoda has where it's kind of them
that Hoda has where it's kind of them laying out the foundations and work of
laying out the foundations and work of what they're going to do in Winds of
what they're going to do in Winds of Winter, you know, Aron going to check
Winter, you know, Aron going to check out this young Griff character, the Sand
out this young Griff character, the Sand Snakes going to King's Landing and also
Snakes going to King's Landing and also to find Darkstar. If all of that had
to find Darkstar. If all of that had happened through Arian's, you know, eyes
happened through Arian's, you know, eyes and her head, I think I'd have Arian
and her head, I think I'd have Arian much higher than this. But Aryota really
much higher than this. But Aryota really gets held down because he just isn't
gets held down because he just isn't that interesting of a POV unfortunately.
that interesting of a POV unfortunately. Even though I do like the chapter that
Even though I do like the chapter that he has. Number 14, I have Melisandre. So
he has. Number 14, I have Melisandre. So Melisandre is probably the biggest
Melisandre is probably the biggest surprise I would say of this book in
surprise I would say of this book in terms of POVs we got in it. And I really
terms of POVs we got in it. And I really do like her POV chapter because we get
do like her POV chapter because we get to see more about her as a character,
to see more about her as a character, right? How much power does she truly
right? How much power does she truly have? Has she been tricking people?
have? Has she been tricking people? what's what is she up to, right? And so
what's what is she up to, right? And so seeing all that through, you know, her
seeing all that through, you know, her eyes, her trying to figure out what
eyes, her trying to figure out what messages were Laura sending her and
messages were Laura sending her and trying to figure out what that means and
trying to figure out what that means and what she should tell people like Jon and
what she should tell people like Jon and others about what she's seeing is very
others about what she's seeing is very fascinating because it kind of brings up
fascinating because it kind of brings up these questions like if Lightbringer,
these questions like if Lightbringer, you know, isn't actually Lightbringer.
you know, isn't actually Lightbringer. Like if Stan's sword isn't actually
Like if Stan's sword isn't actually Lightbringer,
Lightbringer, why does Mel believe in him? because Mel
why does Mel believe in him? because Mel does believe that Stannis is Azor Ah
does believe that Stannis is Azor Ah high. Why does she believe those things?
high. Why does she believe those things? And so it adds up a bunch of interesting
And so it adds up a bunch of interesting questions, but also I think this chapter
questions, but also I think this chapter is here more because a when Jon dies, we
is here more because a when Jon dies, we need a POV here and Melisandre will
need a POV here and Melisandre will probably take up that mantle until Jon
probably take up that mantle until Jon kind of returns.
kind of returns. But, you know, you also wanted to give
But, you know, you also wanted to give kind of a look into Melisandre and give,
kind of a look into Melisandre and give, you know, her a bit more character work
you know, her a bit more character work before we then have her be a full-blown
before we then have her be a full-blown POV in the next book. I found Melisandre
POV in the next book. I found Melisandre to be extremely interesting.
to be extremely interesting. Unfortunately, we only get one chapter
Unfortunately, we only get one chapter with her. So, I did put her underneath
with her. So, I did put her underneath um two of the other characters that have
um two of the other characters that have one chapter each and I think they are
one chapter each and I think they are slightly better in my opinion. Well, I'd
slightly better in my opinion. Well, I'd say for one of them much better. But
say for one of them much better. But yeah, so that gets us to number 13. I
yeah, so that gets us to number 13. I have Jaime. Now, Jaime has one chapter
have Jaime. Now, Jaime has one chapter in this book as well. It is completely
in this book as well. It is completely focusing on wrapping up the Riverland
focusing on wrapping up the Riverland conflict that Jaime has started in his
conflict that Jaime has started in his Feast for Crows arc. It's him dealing
Feast for Crows arc. It's him dealing with the Blackwoods and the Brackens,
with the Blackwoods and the Brackens, which is fantastic. We get a ton of our
which is fantastic. We get a ton of our lore between the Blackwood and Bracken
lore between the Blackwood and Bracken conflict through this chapter with
conflict through this chapter with Jaime. I wish we had gotten more Jaime.
Jaime. I wish we had gotten more Jaime. Um, he is again the best POV of Feast
Um, he is again the best POV of Feast for Crows. And being back into his head
for Crows. And being back into his head is fantastic in this book. The only
is fantastic in this book. The only thing that holds him down is just that
thing that holds him down is just that he only has one chapter. I think his
he only has one chapter. I think his chapter I don't remember exactly where I
chapter I don't remember exactly where I ranked it, but I do remember ranking it
ranked it, but I do remember ranking it like within the top at least 30. Uh just
like within the top at least 30. Uh just looking at it right now, I have it
looking at it right now, I have it ranked as the 19th best chapter of the
ranked as the 19th best chapter of the book. So that's pretty good given
book. So that's pretty good given there's 73 chapters in this book. And
there's 73 chapters in this book. And this is a very topheavy uh book in terms
this is a very topheavy uh book in terms of really great chapters. So again,
of really great chapters. So again, great chapter by Jamie, but limited
great chapter by Jamie, but limited because he only has one chapter. Number
because he only has one chapter. Number 12, I have Victarion. Now, Victarion is
12, I have Victarion. Now, Victarion is a really fun POV to read. Um, a lot of
a really fun POV to read. Um, a lot of the reason that he's higher than some of
the reason that he's higher than some of these other characters with only one POV
these other characters with only one POV or whatnot, he's just fun to read.
or whatnot, he's just fun to read. You're never bored when you read a
You're never bored when you read a Victarion, you know, chapter. You don't
Victarion, you know, chapter. You don't know what he's going to do. He's kind of
know what he's going to do. He's kind of like this wildcard character because
like this wildcard character because he's, you know, this brutish type of
he's, you know, this brutish type of guy, but he's also kind of dumb. And,
guy, but he's also kind of dumb. And, you know, his and his plotline is kind
you know, his and his plotline is kind of fascinating in my opinion just based
of fascinating in my opinion just based upon, okay, what does Euron want from
upon, okay, what does Euron want from Victarion and Victarion trying to work
Victarion and Victarion trying to work out all those things while also not
out all those things while also not being the smartest guy in the world.
being the smartest guy in the world. He's just everybody's kind of favorite
He's just everybody's kind of favorite lovable like barbarian sea guy more or
lovable like barbarian sea guy more or less is what he is. And so that's just
less is what he is. And so that's just where he is. I don't think he's, you
where he is. I don't think he's, you know, a great POV. I know other people
know, a great POV. I know other people really love Victron as POV. You know, I
really love Victron as POV. You know, I think he's he's a fine POV. I'm never
think he's he's a fine POV. I'm never going to be upset turning to a Victarion
going to be upset turning to a Victarion POV chapter, but at the same time, I'm
POV chapter, but at the same time, I'm never going to be like that excited for
never going to be like that excited for a Victarium POV chapter either. So,
a Victarium POV chapter either. So, number 11. This is kind of the the last
number 11. This is kind of the the last of the one POV chapter characters, but I
of the one POV chapter characters, but I do have the epilogue in Kevin Lannister.
do have the epilogue in Kevin Lannister. Kevin is one of my favorite characters
Kevin is one of my favorite characters because of this chapter because we
because of this chapter because we finally get to see inside of this
finally get to see inside of this character, see what he's been about this
character, see what he's been about this whole time. He's a character that I
whole time. He's a character that I find, you know, to be interesting as
find, you know, to be interesting as he's been living in his brother's
he's been living in his brother's shadow, very similar to like the
shadow, very similar to like the character of Stannis with Robert and the
character of Stannis with Robert and the way he goes about trying to fix all the
way he goes about trying to fix all the issues that Cersei has done. He's doing
issues that Cersei has done. He's doing a really good job of it. and seeing how
a really good job of it. and seeing how he plays the Tyrells and all that and
he plays the Tyrells and all that and leading to his inevitable death and this
leading to his inevitable death and this tragic end to the story for a dance with
tragic end to the story for a dance with dragons. It's in my opinion the perfect
dragons. It's in my opinion the perfect conclusion. I think of all the books,
conclusion. I think of all the books, you know, it does have a really great
you know, it does have a really great finish. I would probably put it up there
finish. I would probably put it up there as my
as my maybe my second favorite ending only
maybe my second favorite ending only behind Game of Thrones with Daenerys's
behind Game of Thrones with Daenerys's last chapter. So again, I love Kevin. He
last chapter. So again, I love Kevin. He only held down because he has one
only held down because he has one chapter. That's it. He'd be much higher
chapter. That's it. He'd be much higher if he had maybe a couple more chapters,
if he had maybe a couple more chapters, but given that, I put him at number 11.
but given that, I put him at number 11. So, reaching into our top 10, I have
So, reaching into our top 10, I have some I have someone that will either
some I have someone that will either make you happy or sad. We'll see. I feel
make you happy or sad. We'll see. I feel like the community is very divided on
like the community is very divided on how it feels about Daenerys. And to me,
how it feels about Daenerys. And to me, I think she's not great, and I don't
I think she's not great, and I don't think she's horrible in this book. I
think she's horrible in this book. I think she's just right there in the
think she's just right there in the middle. So, I that's how I placed her. I
middle. So, I that's how I placed her. I placed her at number 10. She is a
placed her at number 10. She is a character that has one really defining
character that has one really defining great chapter in this book, like she has
great chapter in this book, like she has in every single book she's in. But
in every single book she's in. But outside of that, the rest of her
outside of that, the rest of her chapters are around the middle of my
chapters are around the middle of my rankings. I mean, I went back and I
rankings. I mean, I went back and I looked at it. I almost just have a
looked at it. I almost just have a cluster of Danny chapters, kind of
cluster of Danny chapters, kind of around that 30 to 40 range. That's where
around that 30 to 40 range. That's where most of her chapters are ranked outside
most of her chapters are ranked outside of like one of them. Like I do not have
of like one of them. Like I do not have another Daenerys chapter outside of
another Daenerys chapter outside of Danny 9 in my entire top 30. So that
Danny 9 in my entire top 30. So that should tell you where how I feel about
should tell you where how I feel about Daenerys. But she also doesn't have a
Daenerys. But she also doesn't have a chapter that's like in the bottom 10 of
chapter that's like in the bottom 10 of the book either. So she's a character
the book either. So she's a character that is kind of just okay. Like there's
that is kind of just okay. Like there's good things about her plotline and
good things about her plotline and there's bad things about her plot line.
there's bad things about her plot line. Let's talk about the good for instance.
Let's talk about the good for instance. Why I think she's above some of the
Why I think she's above some of the other characters in here. I think when
other characters in here. I think when we're putting when we get stuff where
we're putting when we get stuff where it's Daenerys having to make hard
it's Daenerys having to make hard decisions and looking and testing her
decisions and looking and testing her morale, it's very interesting, right?
morale, it's very interesting, right? Putting her in uncomfortable situations
Putting her in uncomfortable situations where, you know, she has all these
where, you know, she has all these refugees from Aapor coming to Meereen.
refugees from Aapor coming to Meereen. What does she do about that, right? Like
What does she do about that, right? Like they have this plague, they can't feed
they have this plague, they can't feed them. Well, what does she do about that?
them. Well, what does she do about that? Right? It's a really tough decision she
Right? It's a really tough decision she has to make. or the multiple times early
has to make. or the multiple times early in the book where, you know, she is
in the book where, you know, she is given an option to maybe leave Marine
given an option to maybe leave Marine and go to Westeros, but she doesn't and
and go to Westeros, but she doesn't and she has to make compromises to try and
she has to make compromises to try and rule over the city. So, I love those
rule over the city. So, I love those aspects of Daenerys's character. I love
aspects of Daenerys's character. I love the aspects where Daenerys is being
the aspects where Daenerys is being tested as a ruler and as a person.
tested as a ruler and as a person. Things I don't love about Daenerys in
Things I don't love about Daenerys in this book is sometimes the romance stuff
this book is sometimes the romance stuff drags on. um you know her constantly
drags on. um you know her constantly thinking about Daario or her romance
thinking about Daario or her romance when Daario was present or all the
when Daario was present or all the leadup and stuff to the Hisdar wedding
leadup and stuff to the Hisdar wedding and some of that stuff you know going
and some of that stuff you know going forward after then you introduce another
forward after then you introduce another suitor with Quentin and you have young
suitor with Quentin and you have young Griff who is supposed to marry her and
Griff who is supposed to marry her and you have Victarion coming like I just
you have Victarion coming like I just feel like I don't enjoy the romance side
feel like I don't enjoy the romance side of Daenerys's arc because there's just
of Daenerys's arc because there's just so much of it there's so many different
so much of it there's so many different type of characters that are trying
type of characters that are trying trying to compete for that and do all
trying to compete for that and do all that stuff.
that stuff. And I think at parts of this book, it
And I think at parts of this book, it kind of runs on too much. And I will say
kind of runs on too much. And I will say about Daenerys is she feels like just
about Daenerys is she feels like just throughout the whole book, she feels
throughout the whole book, she feels like a character where her chapters kind
like a character where her chapters kind of run together. Like even me removed,
of run together. Like even me removed, you know, I would say a good number of
you know, I would say a good number of months from eating from reading her, you
months from eating from reading her, you know, early chapters, some of them start
know, early chapters, some of them start to blend together because there isn't
to blend together because there isn't like a for instance John, right? in her
like a for instance John, right? in her his early chapters he has very
his early chapters he has very significant moments throughout each
significant moments throughout each chapter that help you remember you know
chapter that help you remember you know exactly what happens in each chapter you
exactly what happens in each chapter you know for instance the beginning you have
know for instance the beginning you have the Stannis section of the story for Jon
the Stannis section of the story for Jon so you have you know Janice slint being
so you have you know Janice slint being killed and you have Jon asking for the
killed and you have Jon asking for the wildlings but giving Stannis this you
wildlings but giving Stannis this you know the mountain clans where he can go
know the mountain clans where he can go for that and all that Daenerys doesn't
for that and all that Daenerys doesn't really have that has a lot of chapters
really have that has a lot of chapters that cover the same type of topics but
that cover the same type of topics but just in different chapters and so I
just in different chapters and so I think Daenerys the problem of Cersei in
think Daenerys the problem of Cersei in the middle of A Feast for Crows where
the middle of A Feast for Crows where Cersei has a couple chapters that kind
Cersei has a couple chapters that kind of run together in your mind and they're
of run together in your mind and they're hard to differentiate. Daenerys kind of
hard to differentiate. Daenerys kind of has that throughout the whole book
has that throughout the whole book outside of like Daenerys 9, which is one
outside of like Daenerys 9, which is one of the best of the book. So Daenerys, in
of the best of the book. So Daenerys, in my opinion, she's just a fine POV of
my opinion, she's just a fine POV of this book. I don't think she's great. I
this book. I don't think she's great. I don't think she's, you know, terrible
don't think she's, you know, terrible either. Number nine, I have Arya. I
either. Number nine, I have Arya. I loved Arya in this book. Uh I didn't
loved Arya in this book. Uh I didn't remember loving Arya in this book as
remember loving Arya in this book as much as I I do now. I mean, I have both
much as I I do now. I mean, I have both of her chapters within my top 30, one of
of her chapters within my top 30, one of them being at eight and the other one
them being at eight and the other one being directly at 30. Um, I really
being directly at 30. Um, I really enjoyed I I really enjoyed her arc. I
enjoyed I I really enjoyed her arc. I think it took everything that Feast for
think it took everything that Feast for Crows was setting up and then paid it
Crows was setting up and then paid it off in this book and it felt earned. It
off in this book and it felt earned. It felt great. It felt like this stuff
felt great. It felt like this stuff should have been in Feast for Crows is
should have been in Feast for Crows is what it feels like. And it's us
what it feels like. And it's us exploring more of the Faceless Men,
exploring more of the Faceless Men, getting more into their magic and the
getting more into their magic and the ways that they go about doing things.
ways that they go about doing things. and still Arya kind of trying to figure
and still Arya kind of trying to figure that out, but also still holding on to
that out, but also still holding on to parts of herself, right? Like why is she
parts of herself, right? Like why is she killing people, right? And all that type
killing people, right? And all that type of stuff that goes along with that,
of stuff that goes along with that, whereas the phasesman, you know, just
whereas the phasesman, you know, just want her to kill them because they say
want her to kill them because they say so. And so you have a lot of that going
so. And so you have a lot of that going on in this book as well. I think the
on in this book as well. I think the only thing that holds Arya down is she
only thing that holds Arya down is she only has two chapters. If Arya had more
only has two chapters. If Arya had more chapters in this book, she'd be much
chapters in this book, she'd be much higher than just number nine, for
higher than just number nine, for instance. you know, if she had more
instance. you know, if she had more chapters because again there we still
chapters because again there we still have a couple characters and you know,
have a couple characters and you know, going up the rest of these rankings, you
going up the rest of these rankings, you know, three through eight all have four
know, three through eight all have four chapters or less. So, I think if Arya
chapters or less. So, I think if Arya would have had more chapters in this
would have had more chapters in this book, she would have gotten a little
book, she would have gotten a little higher, but I think that's the only
higher, but I think that's the only thing that really holds her down. Number
thing that really holds her down. Number eight, I have Bran. Now, again, very
eight, I have Bran. Now, again, very similar to Arya. Bran is a character
similar to Arya. Bran is a character that only has three POV chapters in this
that only has three POV chapters in this book. They're all fantastic. I love all
book. They're all fantastic. I love all three of Bran's chapters in this book.
three of Bran's chapters in this book. It finally feels like we start to have a
It finally feels like we start to have a lot of tension. We're getting to the
lot of tension. We're getting to the best parts of Bran in the series, and
best parts of Bran in the series, and then all of a sudden, George cuts him
then all of a sudden, George cuts him off about halfway through this book.
off about halfway through this book. Now, I'm not George. I don't know what's
Now, I'm not George. I don't know what's in George's head. I don't know if George
in George's head. I don't know if George just wanted Bran to develop more
just wanted Bran to develop more offscreen so that when we come back to
offscreen so that when we come back to the character, he's advanced quite a bit
the character, he's advanced quite a bit cuz we haven't seen him for a good
cuz we haven't seen him for a good amount of time. and he's also learning
amount of time. and he's also learning to see things and all this stuff that
to see things and all this stuff that maybe George doesn't want us to see. So,
maybe George doesn't want us to see. So, he's waiting for Winds of Winter to, you
he's waiting for Winds of Winter to, you know, continue with that character. It's
know, continue with that character. It's similar to how he wanted like the
similar to how he wanted like the five-year time skip between Storm and
five-year time skip between Storm and the last two books. Maybe he's kind of
the last two books. Maybe he's kind of doing that kind of a situation because
doing that kind of a situation because just seems very weird that Bran finally
just seems very weird that Bran finally gets to, in my opinion, these three
gets to, in my opinion, these three chapters he has in this book are some of
chapters he has in this book are some of his best of the entire series of the
his best of the entire series of the entire first three books. And then all
entire first three books. And then all of a sudden, you know, you he disappears
of a sudden, you know, you he disappears after he gets Jojan paste more than
after he gets Jojan paste more than likely and we start seeing him seeing
likely and we start seeing him seeing these visions of the past and almost
these visions of the past and almost being able to interact with the past,
being able to interact with the past, right? Calling to his father, for
right? Calling to his father, for instance, and his father reacting to it.
instance, and his father reacting to it. I I I think it's interesting that George
I I I think it's interesting that George decided to cut this character off the
decided to cut this character off the halfway point. But I really did enjoy
halfway point. But I really did enjoy Bran's journey from him going with cold
Bran's journey from him going with cold hands to making it to the cave, learning
hands to making it to the cave, learning more knowledge and things like that. Uh,
more knowledge and things like that. Uh, it seems heartbreaking for Bran because
it seems heartbreaking for Bran because he believed he'd be able to at least
he believed he'd be able to at least walk again. But no, he will be able to
walk again. But no, he will be able to fly more or less is kind of what Blood
fly more or less is kind of what Blood Raven tells him. I really like Bran. I
Raven tells him. I really like Bran. I think if Bran, same thing of Arya. If
think if Bran, same thing of Arya. If Bran had more chapters, I think he would
Bran had more chapters, I think he would be a bit higher than this. But with that
be a bit higher than this. But with that being said, there's a number of
being said, there's a number of characters that have very similar
characters that have very similar chapter counts that Bran has that I just
chapter counts that Bran has that I just prefer more than Bran, unfortunately for
prefer more than Bran, unfortunately for Bran. Number seven, I have Cersei. Now,
Bran. Number seven, I have Cersei. Now, Cersei has two POV chapters within this
Cersei has two POV chapters within this book. They both feel like they should
book. They both feel like they should have been in Feast for Crows, but that's
have been in Feast for Crows, but that's kind of a Feast for Crows's fault, not
kind of a Feast for Crows's fault, not Dance with Dragons's fault, because her
Dance with Dragons's fault, because her chapters of seeing her right after she's
chapters of seeing her right after she's been imprisoned, after everything that
been imprisoned, after everything that happened in Feast for Crows, being
happened in Feast for Crows, being completely broken down and desperate
completely broken down and desperate that she would even consider doing this
that she would even consider doing this walk of atonement. That easily is one of
walk of atonement. That easily is one of the most traumatic things you could
the most traumatic things you could possibly go through. and watching her
possibly go through. and watching her come back down to earth and seeing her
come back down to earth and seeing her reduced to the state that she's in by
reduced to the state that she's in by the end of A Dance of the Dragons is one
the end of A Dance of the Dragons is one of the best writing I think that George
of the best writing I think that George has done just in terms of making us care
has done just in terms of making us care about Cersei in a way that we could
about Cersei in a way that we could never have believed we'd be able to do
never have believed we'd be able to do in book one. Making the faith more
in book one. Making the faith more hatable and more villainous it would
hatable and more villainous it would appear than someone like Cersei where
appear than someone like Cersei where you even feel bad for Cersei. It's some
you even feel bad for Cersei. It's some of the best writing that that I've seen
of the best writing that that I've seen George actually do and I think it's very
George actually do and I think it's very underrated in the community. But I will
underrated in the community. But I will say once again, why is she down here at
say once again, why is she down here at seven? You know, with all that praise I
seven? You know, with all that praise I just gave her. She only has two
just gave her. She only has two chapters. I mean, I really enjoyed both
chapters. I mean, I really enjoyed both of her chapters, just like Arya, but
of her chapters, just like Arya, but even better. But I think there's
even better. But I think there's characters that have a bit more of a
characters that have a bit more of a story start to finish in this book and
story start to finish in this book and have more chapters than her that deserve
have more chapters than her that deserve to be higher. If these two chapters had
to be higher. If these two chapters had been in A Feast for Crows, I would have
been in A Feast for Crows, I would have said that Cersei was the best POV of A
said that Cersei was the best POV of A Feast for Crows. But because she didn't
Feast for Crows. But because she didn't have that natural conclusion, which the
have that natural conclusion, which the conclusion for Feast for Crows, for
conclusion for Feast for Crows, for sure, Cersei is still good, it's just
sure, Cersei is still good, it's just not as good as it could have been, and
not as good as it could have been, and these chapters kind of prove that.
these chapters kind of prove that. But here, she's still solid. You know,
But here, she's still solid. You know, she's still going to be up in the upper
she's still going to be up in the upper part of this ranking even with only
part of this ranking even with only having two chapters. Number six comes in
having two chapters. Number six comes in with my highest rated character with two
with my highest rated character with two chapters and that is John Conington. I I
chapters and that is John Conington. I I mean I what can you say? I I love John
mean I what can you say? I I love John Conington's
Conington's chapters. I love what we get with the
chapters. I love what we get with the prelude of him with Tyrion. This
prelude of him with Tyrion. This character that is deeply traumatized by
character that is deeply traumatized by his past and the Battle of the Bells and
his past and the Battle of the Bells and being put into exile, but then now
being put into exile, but then now finding this, you know, newfound love
finding this, you know, newfound love for Rhaegar's son and trying to get him
for Rhaegar's son and trying to get him on the Iron Throne. We get a lot of our
on the Iron Throne. We get a lot of our lore about the Golden Company through
lore about the Golden Company through John Conington. One of my favorite parts
John Conington. One of my favorite parts of A Song of West and Fire lore is the
of A Song of West and Fire lore is the Golden Company. I've come to love them
Golden Company. I've come to love them quite a lot over the last like year and
quite a lot over the last like year and a half. I've really become more of a
a half. I've really become more of a Blackfire guy. Aore, if you're watching
Blackfire guy. Aore, if you're watching this video, you know that my Blackfire
this video, you know that my Blackfire thing in the background. I wish they
thing in the background. I wish they made more Blackfire like merchandise.
made more Blackfire like merchandise. And I hope with Duncan Egg coming along,
And I hope with Duncan Egg coming along, I won't be this uh year. probably when
I won't be this uh year. probably when it comes out in season two, we'll maybe
it comes out in season two, we'll maybe start getting more Blackfire memorabilia
start getting more Blackfire memorabilia and stuff like that, which would be
and stuff like that, which would be awesome. But I really love, you know,
awesome. But I really love, you know, young Griff's plotline of introducing
young Griff's plotline of introducing this new character that possibly could
this new character that possibly could be Aegon Targaryen, Rhaegar's son, or is
be Aegon Targaryen, Rhaegar's son, or is he, you know, Yo's son, or the mysteries
he, you know, Yo's son, or the mysteries behind that? Going back to Griffin's
behind that? Going back to Griffin's roost with the character of John
roost with the character of John Conington is like very much like Theon,
Conington is like very much like Theon, but maybe not as good as Theon, but
but maybe not as good as Theon, but still, you know, there seeing the his
still, you know, there seeing the his past ghosts and things and things like
past ghosts and things and things like that. I really like John Khan in this
that. I really like John Khan in this book. I I think that once again, kind of
book. I I think that once again, kind of how I feel about a lot of the characters
how I feel about a lot of the characters that have two chapters or less. if they
that have two chapters or less. if they had been given more time, you know, if
had been given more time, you know, if characters like Tyrion and Quentyn had
characters like Tyrion and Quentyn had been more cut down in this book and we
been more cut down in this book and we had spent more time with some of these
had spent more time with some of these other POVs that are now kind of taking
other POVs that are now kind of taking up the mantle, right, of being the best
up the mantle, right, of being the best characters of the series, they just
characters of the series, they just didn't get enough time in this book. And
didn't get enough time in this book. And John Conington kind of gets a pass
John Conington kind of gets a pass because we see a lot of him through
because we see a lot of him through Tyrion's earlier chapters. But, you
Tyrion's earlier chapters. But, you know, characters like, you know, Arya or
know, characters like, you know, Arya or Bran, I think Bran and specifically, you
Bran, I think Bran and specifically, you know, and Cersei and Victarion,
know, and Cersei and Victarion, you know, I wish we would have gotten
you know, I wish we would have gotten more of them instead of getting more of
more of them instead of getting more of Tyrion and Quentyn. Moving into our top
Tyrion and Quentyn. Moving into our top five. Now, this one might be, I guess,
five. Now, this one might be, I guess, divisive. I I don't I don't know because
divisive. I I don't I don't know because to me I think the north plot plot line
to me I think the north plot plot line is the best plot line of the book
is the best plot line of the book whether that be with Davos, Theon or Jon
whether that be with Davos, Theon or Jon or Asha. Five four of my top five all
or Asha. Five four of my top five all revolve around the north. I think if the
revolve around the north. I think if the Essos plot had not been as prevalent as
Essos plot had not been as prevalent as it is in this book, especially with, you
it is in this book, especially with, you know, Daenerys, Tyrion, you know,
know, Daenerys, Tyrion, you know, Quentin, all these characters, like we
Quentin, all these characters, like we have a good like we have a substantial
have a good like we have a substantial amount of plot in Essos.
amount of plot in Essos. I think that this book would have been
I think that this book would have been better. This book didn't have as much of
better. This book didn't have as much of it.
it. But with that said, number five, I have
But with that said, number five, I have Asha. Now, Asha has three chapters and I
Asha. Now, Asha has three chapters and I think all of them are fantastic, right?
think all of them are fantastic, right? We have the Deepwood M attack at night.
We have the Deepwood M attack at night. Um, you know, Stainless capturing Asha,
Um, you know, Stainless capturing Asha, which is one of my favorite chapters of
which is one of my favorite chapters of the book. I know people don't like it
the book. I know people don't like it because of the Carl the Maid section.
because of the Carl the Maid section. It's basically a big sex scene in the
It's basically a big sex scene in the middle of the book. I don't mind it as
middle of the book. I don't mind it as much as I usually don't like when George
much as I usually don't like when George really goes deep into basically writing
really goes deep into basically writing sex novels, but I do actually don't I
sex novels, but I do actually don't I actually don't mind it here because it
actually don't mind it here because it serves a very important narrative focus
serves a very important narrative focus in that Asha feels completely
in that Asha feels completely surrounded. She feels like there's no
surrounded. She feels like there's no way out. She feels like doom is coming
way out. She feels like doom is coming or she's going to have to go into exile.
or she's going to have to go into exile. And you know, these few moments with
And you know, these few moments with Carl the maid, they kind of alleviate
Carl the maid, they kind of alleviate that, right? for a few moments, Asha
that, right? for a few moments, Asha forgets about those stresses and she's
forgets about those stresses and she's just, you know, a woman again or
just, you know, a woman again or whatnot. And so I get the push back on
whatnot. And so I get the push back on Asha. I I do. I personally love Asha.
Asha. I I do. I personally love Asha. Asha is one of my favorite characters of
Asha is one of my favorite characters of the female characters. She's definitely
the female characters. She's definitely up there as being one of my favorites.
up there as being one of my favorites. And you know, I love that then we get to
And you know, I love that then we get to see her paired with character like
see her paired with character like Stannis, right? being the POV into him
Stannis, right? being the POV into him being such a different character, right,
being such a different character, right, of looking at Stannis because we've seen
of looking at Stannis because we've seen Stannis through characters like Catelyn,
Stannis through characters like Catelyn, like Davos, like Jon. It's very
like Davos, like Jon. It's very different with Asha because Asha comes
different with Asha because Asha comes from a family that is in direct, you
from a family that is in direct, you know, conflict with someone like
know, conflict with someone like Stannis. Stannis is the reason in a lot
Stannis. Stannis is the reason in a lot of ways the great joy rebellion did not,
of ways the great joy rebellion did not, you know, go anywhere. He was the one
you know, go anywhere. He was the one that thwarted their navy. And so you
that thwarted their navy. And so you have this interesting back and forth
have this interesting back and forth between, you know, Asha seeing, you
between, you know, Asha seeing, you know, this almost like Napoleon and
know, this almost like Napoleon and Russia type campaign with Stannis trying
Russia type campaign with Stannis trying to get to Winterfell and how horribly
to get to Winterfell and how horribly that goes and then even her last chapter
that goes and then even her last chapter where there's so much tension built up
where there's so much tension built up and seeing, you know, Theon and her
and seeing, you know, Theon and her reunite once again. If, you know, we had
reunite once again. If, you know, we had gotten something where Tyrion and
gotten something where Tyrion and Quentyn had been cut down and Asha had
Quentyn had been cut down and Asha had been given more chapters to finish out
been given more chapters to finish out the real northern plotline with Stannis
the real northern plotline with Stannis taking on this Frey force, she'd be
taking on this Frey force, she'd be probably up there right underneath
probably up there right underneath Theon. But because she only has three
Theon. But because she only has three chapters, she doesn't finish in the best
chapters, she doesn't finish in the best spot, right? Her finish in in the book
spot, right? Her finish in in the book is basically she meets Theon after he's
is basically she meets Theon after he's been more or less rescued by Morris Crow
been more or less rescued by Morris Crow food umber and then been taken back to
food umber and then been taken back to the camp with this party that Jon sent
the camp with this party that Jon sent to them with the Iron Bank banker. And
to them with the Iron Bank banker. And so she doesn't end like on the craziest
so she doesn't end like on the craziest note. She doesn't end where you would
note. She doesn't end where you would naturally think that plotline was going.
naturally think that plotline was going. And so because of those reasons, I think
And so because of those reasons, I think that kind of holds Asha down. Number
that kind of holds Asha down. Number four, I have as Barristen. Now, Barrison
four, I have as Barristen. Now, Barrison has four chapters, but it's kind of
has four chapters, but it's kind of weird because all of Barrison's chapters
weird because all of Barrison's chapters come at the very end of the book. All
come at the very end of the book. All four of his come in the last quarter of
four of his come in the last quarter of the book, but he's such an interesting
the book, but he's such an interesting POV. He if you like Ned, for instance,
POV. He if you like Ned, for instance, if like if Ned's like one of your
if like if Ned's like one of your favorite POVs, you will love Barristen
favorite POVs, you will love Barristen because it feels the exact same. And
because it feels the exact same. And that that feeling that I got when I was
that that feeling that I got when I was doing my reread of a Game of Thrones and
doing my reread of a Game of Thrones and I was coming on here every week and
I was coming on here every week and breaking down the book and especially
breaking down the book and especially Ned because he's so prevalent in that
Ned because he's so prevalent in that book. All of those feelings come back
book. All of those feelings come back when you read Barristan because it's the
when you read Barristan because it's the same idea but just in Essos. You take
same idea but just in Essos. You take Barrist who's a very honorable man who's
Barrist who's a very honorable man who's been through a lot of things in his
been through a lot of things in his life. He has a lot of knowledge on
life. He has a lot of knowledge on things like Robert's Rebellion, uh the
things like Robert's Rebellion, uh the War of the Nine Penney Kings, Defiance
War of the Nine Penney Kings, Defiance of Duskondale, Aerys's reign. He has
of Duskondale, Aerys's reign. He has just so much knowledge that's
just so much knowledge that's fascinating. He also has some of this,
fascinating. He also has some of this, you know, old man kind of wisdom and how
you know, old man kind of wisdom and how he views things like love and Ashara
he views things like love and Ashara before the Ry Rebellion stuff. He's just
before the Ry Rebellion stuff. He's just such a fascinating POV that I love to
such a fascinating POV that I love to hear from. Like he's one of those like
hear from. Like he's one of those like grandpas that has really good stories
grandpas that has really good stories that you just kind of want to like hear
that you just kind of want to like hear more about. That's Barriston. He he's a
more about. That's Barriston. He he's a character that can provide so much lore
character that can provide so much lore to things we just do not know in the
to things we just do not know in the story right now. Like the war of the
story right now. Like the war of the nine penny kings is something that we
nine penny kings is something that we don't know all that much about. We know
don't know all that much about. We know like the general outline, but we don't
like the general outline, but we don't have specific stuff that Barrison would
have specific stuff that Barrison would be able to tell us. And so you have that
be able to tell us. And so you have that part of it. You then have the part of it
part of it. You then have the part of it where you put Barrison in a very
where you put Barrison in a very uncomfortable situation. Daenerys is
uncomfortable situation. Daenerys is gone and he's being pushed into acting
gone and he's being pushed into acting because of his DAR and how he's managed
because of his DAR and how he's managed uh Meereen. You know, he's having to try
uh Meereen. You know, he's having to try and play politics, something that Ned
and play politics, something that Ned struggled with a lot. Barrison's the
struggled with a lot. Barrison's the exact same. And so their plot lines run
exact same. And so their plot lines run very similar. Barrison has to do some
very similar. Barrison has to do some sort of coup to get his daughter out of
sort of coup to get his daughter out of power to put himself more or less in
power to put himself more or less in power and then going to fight the
power and then going to fight the slavers and all of that. I think the
slavers and all of that. I think the only knock and the reason that I decided
only knock and the reason that I decided to put Davos ahead of Barrist as the
to put Davos ahead of Barrist as the last like four chapter POV is Barrison
last like four chapter POV is Barrison doesn't really end on a natural spot
doesn't really end on a natural spot either. He's very similar to Asha in
either. He's very similar to Asha in that regard is that you would think
that regard is that you would think right the ending point for Baristan
right the ending point for Baristan would be the battle of fire because
would be the battle of fire because we're building up to this conflict
we're building up to this conflict between the slavers and marine and we're
between the slavers and marine and we're not going to see that till winds of
not going to see that till winds of winter. It would almost feel like if in
winter. It would almost feel like if in a Clash of Kings we were building up to
a Clash of Kings we were building up to the battle of the Blackwater. We get,
the battle of the Blackwater. We get, you know, Tyrion and Davos having one
you know, Tyrion and Davos having one chapter before the battle starts and
chapter before the battle starts and then just not showing it until the
then just not showing it until the beginning of the Storm of Swords. It's
beginning of the Storm of Swords. It's what it feels like, right? We've been
what it feels like, right? We've been building up to this conflict the whole
building up to this conflict the whole book and then it's not going to happen.
book and then it's not going to happen. So those things really, I think, hold
So those things really, I think, hold back POVs like Barrison and Asha from
back POVs like Barrison and Asha from going further. Whereas for my number
going further. Whereas for my number three, Davos, who also has four POV
three, Davos, who also has four POV chapters, he ends on a more normal note,
chapters, he ends on a more normal note, right? His whole goal is to try and get
right? His whole goal is to try and get Wyman Manderly to back Stannis, right?
Wyman Manderly to back Stannis, right? Okay. Well, we get to about the middle
Okay. Well, we get to about the middle point of the book. There's this whole
point of the book. There's this whole North remembers plot that comes out and
North remembers plot that comes out and so Davos has to have this mission in
so Davos has to have this mission in Skagos. We don't see him the rest of the
Skagos. We don't see him the rest of the book. It would have been great to see
book. It would have been great to see him, you know, the rest of the book to
him, you know, the rest of the book to go to Skagos, but it's a natural end
go to Skagos, but it's a natural end point that makes sense to then focus on
point that makes sense to then focus on other things going on in the story. So
other things going on in the story. So Davos to me is a more complete story
Davos to me is a more complete story even though he's only in about half of
even though he's only in about half of it than say someone like Barristan. Now
it than say someone like Barristan. Now Davos has always been a favorite of
Davos has always been a favorite of mine. He's a POV into the Stainless
mine. He's a POV into the Stainless Camp. I love this character. Davos is up
Camp. I love this character. Davos is up there as one of my favorites and I just
there as one of my favorites and I just love what we get from his POV. You know,
love what we get from his POV. You know, I think everybody always looks at the
I think everybody always looks at the stuff in White Harbor, which is
stuff in White Harbor, which is fantastic, of course, don't get me
fantastic, of course, don't get me wrong, but I do like his opening chapter
wrong, but I do like his opening chapter as well, and how that, you know, him
as well, and how that, you know, him basically being at the sisters kind of
basically being at the sisters kind of again foreshadows Ned when he was there
again foreshadows Ned when he was there during Robert's Rebellion. I love that
during Robert's Rebellion. I love that tie-in. I I love the way that that
tie-in. I I love the way that that connects, you know, this area on the
connects, you know, this area on the north, building out the world a bit, but
north, building out the world a bit, but also making Davos go into more of this
also making Davos go into more of this mode of being the smuggler and going
mode of being the smuggler and going back into what he used to be. And that
back into what he used to be. And that kind of carries on. I will say Davos 2
kind of carries on. I will say Davos 2 is his weakest of the book because it's
is his weakest of the book because it's a chapter where he arrives at White
a chapter where he arrives at White Harbor, but not a whole lot happens.
Harbor, but not a whole lot happens. It's really Davos gauging, you know,
It's really Davos gauging, you know, what the public feel about about what
what the public feel about about what Wyman Manley is doing and the state of
Wyman Manley is doing and the state of the castle and all that stuff. It's more
the castle and all that stuff. It's more of a okay setup chapter for Davos 3. And
of a okay setup chapter for Davos 3. And then Davos 3, you know, his whole
then Davos 3, you know, his whole meeting with Wyman Manerly. It's so
meeting with Wyman Manerly. It's so great because you feel like Davos,
great because you feel like Davos, right? Because you have the phrase
right? Because you have the phrase trying to say all this stuff about what
trying to say all this stuff about what really happened at the Red Wedding and
really happened at the Red Wedding and all that stuff. And you know, you as a
all that stuff. And you know, you as a reader, you know what happened, right?
reader, you know what happened, right? And so you're there with Davos saying,
And so you're there with Davos saying, "No, why me? Why are you going with
"No, why me? Why are you going with these phrase? They went against you.
these phrase? They went against you. They went against your king. They hold
They went against your king. They hold your son hostage.
your son hostage. Why would you back them? And so then
Why would you back them? And so then when you get to Davos 4 and and you do
when you get to Davos 4 and and you do think that Davos might die given the
think that Davos might die given the fact that in Feast for Crows in a small
fact that in Feast for Crows in a small council meeting with Cersei, we do hear
council meeting with Cersei, we do hear that Davos dies. And so we're sitting
that Davos dies. And so we're sitting here going, "Okay, wait. Davos is now in
here going, "Okay, wait. Davos is now in prison. Is he going to die?" And then
prison. Is he going to die?" And then you get in my opinion the best chapter
you get in my opinion the best chapter of the book which is the north remembers
of the book which is the north remembers the whole plot coming out with Wyman and
the whole plot coming out with Wyman and Manderly and Davos. It's just so
Manderly and Davos. It's just so fantastically done. Um tying back to the
fantastically done. Um tying back to the Red Wedding and the whole North plot as
Red Wedding and the whole North plot as a whole adding to the the conflicts that
a whole adding to the the conflicts that are going on with Roose trying to rally
are going on with Roose trying to rally the North against Stannis. It's paced
the North against Stannis. It's paced beautifully the beginning of the
beautifully the beginning of the chapter. Davos basically writing to you
chapter. Davos basically writing to you know his wife and his kids because he
know his wife and his kids because he thinks he's going to die.
thinks he's going to die. It's just a perfect chapter in my
It's just a perfect chapter in my opinion. And so Davos has the best
opinion. And so Davos has the best chapter of this book, which is why he
chapter of this book, which is why he has to be pretty close to the top in my
has to be pretty close to the top in my opinion. I just wish we'd gotten maybe a
opinion. I just wish we'd gotten maybe a little bit more of him. But um you know,
little bit more of him. But um you know, he's one of those characters that
he's one of those characters that usually doesn't get a big focus on. And
usually doesn't get a big focus on. And so of the side characters, the
so of the side characters, the characters with like four POV chapters
characters with like four POV chapters or less, in my opinion, he is the best
or less, in my opinion, he is the best one. Number two is Jon Snow. Finally,
one. Number two is Jon Snow. Finally, Jon Snow is kind of the dominant POV of
Jon Snow is kind of the dominant POV of a book, and that's just the case here.
a book, and that's just the case here. He has the most of the book. He is the
He has the most of the book. He is the more entertaining of the main three.
more entertaining of the main three. Again, I have Daenerys at 10 and Tyrion
Again, I have Daenerys at 10 and Tyrion at 17. So, of the characters that have
at 17. So, of the characters that have more than 10 chapters or at 10 chapters,
more than 10 chapters or at 10 chapters, he is by far the best. I think the North
he is by far the best. I think the North plotline is fantastic. And there's
plotline is fantastic. And there's really two phases of Jon, right? The
really two phases of Jon, right? The first phase is Jon struggling to figure
first phase is Jon struggling to figure out how to be the Lord Commander,
out how to be the Lord Commander, figuring out what kind of Lord Commander
figuring out what kind of Lord Commander he's going to be going to be and then
he's going to be going to be and then managing both the Nights Watch and
managing both the Nights Watch and Stannis. Stannis is the kind of that
Stannis. Stannis is the kind of that first half arc for Jon. And there's just
first half arc for Jon. And there's just some standout chapters in those early
some standout chapters in those early points, right? You know, when you have
points, right? You know, when you have things like Mance's alleged death, you
things like Mance's alleged death, you know, seeing how that impacts a
know, seeing how that impacts a character like Jon, having Janice Slint
character like Jon, having Janice Slint and his execution, something that we've
and his execution, something that we've been waiting to see for books now, you
been waiting to see for books now, you know, seeing Stannis and Jon depart, and
know, seeing Stannis and Jon depart, and even Stannis and Jon negotiating about
even Stannis and Jon negotiating about certain things. And then you see him
certain things. And then you see him then shift in the second half, which is
then shift in the second half, which is all about the wildlings, trying to get
all about the wildlings, trying to get the wildlings south of the wall just so
the wildlings south of the wall just so they're not added to the army of the
they're not added to the army of the dead. and seeing how Jon navigates that
dead. and seeing how Jon navigates that and the bad decisions he makes, his poor
and the bad decisions he makes, his poor communication.
communication. I think that Jon is really good in this
I think that Jon is really good in this book. I would put this up there as his
book. I would put this up there as his best book with a Storm of Swords. I
best book with a Storm of Swords. I think they're pretty equal. I lean
think they're pretty equal. I lean towards a Storm of Swords. I like more
towards a Storm of Swords. I like more some of the things that George explores
some of the things that George explores more with the character in that book
more with the character in that book than this one, but still fantastic in
than this one, but still fantastic in this book. Every Jon chapter has
this book. Every Jon chapter has something to offer. There is no bad Jon
something to offer. There is no bad Jon Snow chapter in my opinion. I think
Snow chapter in my opinion. I think there's some okay ones, ones that don't
there's some okay ones, ones that don't really stand out all that much, and
really stand out all that much, and that's going to happen when you have 13
that's going to happen when you have 13 POV chapters, but the more more likely
POV chapters, but the more more likely than not, you know, he has some pretty
than not, you know, he has some pretty solid and good ones throughout the book
solid and good ones throughout the book that keep you pretty entertained.
that keep you pretty entertained. There's some great moments with like
There's some great moments with like Alice Karstark and Jon and their kind of
Alice Karstark and Jon and their kind of relationship, Val and Jon, Tormund and
relationship, Val and Jon, Tormund and Jon, Mel and John, how that all works
Jon, Mel and John, how that all works out. And then he has in my opinion
out. And then he has in my opinion outside of maybe Theon has one of the
outside of maybe Theon has one of the best conclusions to the story, right?
best conclusions to the story, right? His death. All these events, how he's
His death. All these events, how he's leading has led to this moment where
leading has led to this moment where people have turned against him. He dies
people have turned against him. He dies at the end of the book. It's the big
at the end of the book. It's the big cliffhanger of this book. You know, you
cliffhanger of this book. You know, you look back at Game of Thrones, the
look back at Game of Thrones, the cultural impact of Jon's death had at
cultural impact of Jon's death had at the end of season five and that time
the end of season five and that time between season five and six, that same
between season five and six, that same thing happens in the books, except it's
thing happens in the books, except it's just way better done. So,
just way better done. So, yeah, Jon Snow at two for me, just
yeah, Jon Snow at two for me, just because I think number one, Theon. Theon
because I think number one, Theon. Theon to me
to me of the last two books is the clear best
of the last two books is the clear best POV. He is just the way George wrote
POV. He is just the way George wrote this character. Um, it it's just
this character. Um, it it's just fantastic. This is this is his I would
fantastic. This is this is his I would say some of his best writing of the
say some of his best writing of the entire series is Theon. Theon going
entire series is Theon. Theon going from, you know, the beginning of the
from, you know, the beginning of the book where we didn't know he was even
book where we didn't know he was even still alive. This isn't the show. We
still alive. This isn't the show. We didn't have scenes in between Clash of
didn't have scenes in between Clash of Kings and the Dance of the Dragons. We
Kings and the Dance of the Dragons. We didn't know where Theon was. We didn't
didn't know where Theon was. We didn't know how he was doing. And when you come
know how he was doing. And when you come back and he's this character who's
back and he's this character who's missing fingers and, you know, toes and
missing fingers and, you know, toes and he's, you know, old looking and super
he's, you know, old looking and super thin and he's completely broken as a
thin and he's completely broken as a character of this Reek character. And
character of this Reek character. And George goes and takes this character on
George goes and takes this character on a journey of exploring his past, slowly
a journey of exploring his past, slowly breaking out of this Reek situation. And
breaking out of this Reek situation. And that slow burn that you're trying,
that slow burn that you're trying, you're waiting to for Theon to come back
you're waiting to for Theon to come back or at least some part of Theon to break
or at least some part of Theon to break through
through is just really, really well done. And we
is just really, really well done. And we see so much darkness through this
see so much darkness through this character of the characters like Ramsay,
character of the characters like Ramsay, Roose, Arbory, Dustin, um you know, the
Roose, Arbory, Dustin, um you know, the list goes on and on in terms of the
list goes on and on in terms of the North. And he is our kind of our counter
North. And he is our kind of our counter Asha POV, right? Because we're seeing,
Asha POV, right? Because we're seeing, you know, Roose and Ramsay through his
you know, Roose and Ramsay through his eyes. So some of his chapters and the
eyes. So some of his chapters and the best ones for me are at Winterfell. I I
best ones for me are at Winterfell. I I think as Theon goes, he is the most I
think as Theon goes, he is the most I think natural character of the book. He
think natural character of the book. He starts out I would say at his weakest in
starts out I would say at his weakest in terms of as a character, but also how
terms of as a character, but also how good his chapters are. And all the
good his chapters are. And all the chapters are good by the way. When I'm
chapters are good by the way. When I'm saying his weakest, I mean like maybe
saying his weakest, I mean like maybe his first chapter is like top 30, but by
his first chapter is like top 30, but by the end every single chapter he has is
the end every single chapter he has is like a top 15 chapter. He only gets
like a top 15 chapter. He only gets better as the book goes until you
better as the book goes until you finally get to this point where, you
finally get to this point where, you know, this Jane Pool character has been
know, this Jane Pool character has been married to Ramsay and that's the thing
married to Ramsay and that's the thing kind of pulling him out of being Reek
kind of pulling him out of being Reek until he's forced to help her escape and
until he's forced to help her escape and he becomes, you know, Theon or at least
he becomes, you know, Theon or at least a better version of Theon once again,
a better version of Theon once again, helping to save Jane Pool. and that
helping to save Jane Pool. and that character arc where you have such a
character arc where you have such a compelling character arc, but not only
compelling character arc, but not only that, you have a very interesting plot
that, you have a very interesting plot that forwards the plot in every single
that forwards the plot in every single chapter, right? Whether that's the
chapter, right? Whether that's the taking of Mo Kalin, whether that's going
taking of Mo Kalin, whether that's going to Winterfell and seeing this fake Arya
to Winterfell and seeing this fake Arya married to Ramsay, that is extremely
married to Ramsay, that is extremely important plot point in this book,
important plot point in this book, whether it's Theon kind of exploring all
whether it's Theon kind of exploring all these mysteries and murders that are
these mysteries and murders that are happening in the castle or going to the
happening in the castle or going to the crypts with Barbarie Dustin.
crypts with Barbarie Dustin. So what I was trying to say with with
So what I was trying to say with with Theon is I think that you know this book
Theon is I think that you know this book Dance of Giants and Feast for Crows
Dance of Giants and Feast for Crows really struggled with
really struggled with how do you expand the world while also
how do you expand the world while also giving a very compelling character arc
giving a very compelling character arc where you're also forwarding the plot
where you're also forwarding the plot and sometimes George struggles with
and sometimes George struggles with that. And I think he struggled a lot of
that. And I think he struggled a lot of that with a character like Tyrion in
that with a character like Tyrion in this book. But Theon is the perfect
this book. But Theon is the perfect character in this book. Theon I would
character in this book. Theon I would say for a good portion of this book
say for a good portion of this book until the dance dragons gets going which
until the dance dragons gets going which is like that last quarter of the book
is like that last quarter of the book Theon carries this book at the beginning
Theon carries this book at the beginning of it. I I think at the beginning until
of it. I I think at the beginning until you get to kind of like the middle area.
you get to kind of like the middle area. Theon carries the book from the moment
Theon carries the book from the moment he starts as a character. When you see
he starts as a character. When you see that Reek
that Reek he is in my opinion the best character
he is in my opinion the best character of the book. So, that is my ranking of
of the book. So, that is my ranking of the POVs in Adanced Dragons. Let me know
the POVs in Adanced Dragons. Let me know what you guys think. Do you guys agree
what you guys think. Do you guys agree with me? Do you guys think maybe a
with me? Do you guys think maybe a character should be higher? Let me know.
character should be higher? Let me know. I'd love to hear you guys' ratings. And
I'd love to hear you guys' ratings. And today's video, we're going to be doing
today's video, we're going to be doing my conclusion, my overall general
my conclusion, my overall general thoughts on A Dance the Dragons. How
thoughts on A Dance the Dragons. How does it measure up to the other four
does it measure up to the other four books of the main series? What are its
books of the main series? What are its strengths, its weaknesses? What is this
strengths, its weaknesses? What is this book really trying to tell? What does
book really trying to tell? What does George want us to come away with in this
George want us to come away with in this book? and things that I took away from
book? and things that I took away from it. So, my overall thoughts, my things
it. So, my overall thoughts, my things that I came to when I got to the end of
that I came to when I got to the end of this book and things that I compiled as
this book and things that I compiled as I was reading it, this book feels like a
I was reading it, this book feels like a more extreme version of a Clash of
more extreme version of a Clash of Kings. In every in every sense, it
Kings. In every in every sense, it follows almost the same format. Clash of
follows almost the same format. Clash of Kings. The people that really like it,
Kings. The people that really like it, they like it because of the high
they like it because of the high moments, some of the best written
moments, some of the best written moments, uh, specifically the Stannis
moments, uh, specifically the Stannis plot line, the Catelyn plotline, uh,
plot line, the Catelyn plotline, uh, Tyrion's plot line, the Arya plotline.
Tyrion's plot line, the Arya plotline. People that don't like this book really
People that don't like this book really hype on really go on. There's some low
hype on really go on. There's some low points of the book. Nerys's plotline.
points of the book. Nerys's plotline. Some people don't really like Arya's
Some people don't really like Arya's plotline in Clash of Kings. Jon is
plotline in Clash of Kings. Jon is probably at his weakest of the entire
probably at his weakest of the entire series. Bran is not so great in this
series. Bran is not so great in this book. So, Clash of Kings to me of the
book. So, Clash of Kings to me of the first three books has the lowest floor
first three books has the lowest floor in terms of it has some of the weaker
in terms of it has some of the weaker chapters. It's prone to having some
chapters. It's prone to having some weaker chapters here and there, but at
weaker chapters here and there, but at the same time, it also has a huge high,
the same time, it also has a huge high, right? Some of the high moments of Clash
right? Some of the high moments of Clash of Kings are really high. Dance of
of Kings are really high. Dance of Dragons is very similar, albeit I think
Dragons is very similar, albeit I think a bit worse. I think the floor for Dance
a bit worse. I think the floor for Dance the Dragons is incredibly low in terms
the Dragons is incredibly low in terms of the quality of a chapter in a general
of the quality of a chapter in a general sense. Like if you went to a random
sense. Like if you went to a random chapter in a Dance with Dragons, the
chapter in a Dance with Dragons, the chance of it being a great chapter or
chance of it being a great chapter or being a bad chapter, there's a wide
being a bad chapter, there's a wide variety there, right? It's either going
variety there, right? It's either going to be one of those two. There's not a
to be one of those two. There's not a lot of Whereas A Feast for Crows I
lot of Whereas A Feast for Crows I talked about, there's a lot of like
talked about, there's a lot of like middle chapters where they're solid
middle chapters where they're solid chapters. They're not bad, but like
chapters. They're not bad, but like they're not like anything crazy. Peace
they're not like anything crazy. Peace for Crows. The one issue I think Peace
for Crows. The one issue I think Peace for Crows has is it doesn't have a ton
for Crows has is it doesn't have a ton of standout chapters that you remember.
of standout chapters that you remember. Dance with Dragons has that. Dance of
Dance with Dragons has that. Dance of Dragons has both of those things. It has
Dragons has both of those things. It has chapters you remember that you really
chapters you remember that you really don't like. Notably, a lot of Tyrion's
don't like. Notably, a lot of Tyrion's plotline, some of Quentyn's worst
plotline, some of Quentyn's worst chapters, but it also has a ton of great
chapters, but it also has a ton of great chapters in there that really stick with
chapters in there that really stick with you. You know, you think about the end
you. You know, you think about the end of Cersei's plotline. You think about
of Cersei's plotline. You think about Theon's whole plotline, Jon's death,
Theon's whole plotline, Jon's death, Nery riding Drogon for the first time. a
Nery riding Drogon for the first time. a lot of standout moments. And so, A Dance
lot of standout moments. And so, A Dance of Dragons, in my opinion, is the most
of Dragons, in my opinion, is the most inconsistent book of the entire series.
inconsistent book of the entire series. It just varies wildly from chapter to
It just varies wildly from chapter to chapter. Whereas, Feast for Crows, I I
chapter. Whereas, Feast for Crows, I I talked about that it was the opposite,
talked about that it was the opposite, right? It was a very consistent. We were
right? It was a very consistent. We were already always like right here. Maybe we
already always like right here. Maybe we would dip a little underneath it or we
would dip a little underneath it or we go a little higher than it, but we never
go a little higher than it, but we never really, you know, varied too much from
really, you know, varied too much from just being a good baseline of that book.
just being a good baseline of that book. I compared it a lot to a game of
I compared it a lot to a game of thrones, even though Game of Thrones I
thrones, even though Game of Thrones I think is better than Peace for Crows.
think is better than Peace for Crows. Again, Dance Dragons very similar to
Again, Dance Dragons very similar to Clash in that regard. Outside of that, I
Clash in that regard. Outside of that, I think Dance Dragons to me is the book
think Dance Dragons to me is the book that has aged the poorest in my opinion.
that has aged the poorest in my opinion. I used to have Dance Dragons as my
I used to have Dance Dragons as my fourth favorite book. I've always kind
fourth favorite book. I've always kind of gone between A Feast for Crows and
of gone between A Feast for Crows and Dance. They are fighting for kind of
Dance. They are fighting for kind of four and five. I always like the first
four and five. I always like the first three better than the last two because
three better than the last two because they kind of feel like, you know, one
they kind of feel like, you know, one story is the first three. They feel very
story is the first three. They feel very connected and then the last two are
connected and then the last two are they're kind of very connected as well.
they're kind of very connected as well. So to me, I look at book five and I'm
So to me, I look at book five and I'm someone that personally didn't really
someone that personally didn't really enjoy the big low moments of this of
enjoy the big low moments of this of this book. And there's a reason that
this book. And there's a reason that when I was going back through this book,
when I was going back through this book, and I I want to point this out. I'm not,
and I I want to point this out. I'm not, you know, hating on A Dance Dragons.
you know, hating on A Dance Dragons. We're trying to look at it from a
We're trying to look at it from a critical point of view. I still really
critical point of view. I still really like A Dance of Dragons. It would still
like A Dance of Dragons. It would still be probably in my top 10 favorite books.
be probably in my top 10 favorite books. But in terms of comparing it to the
But in terms of comparing it to the quality of the other books in the
quality of the other books in the series,
series, I just had a tougher time with this one
I just had a tougher time with this one on a reread, especially in the first
on a reread, especially in the first half. You know, I started doing this
half. You know, I started doing this retrospective back in, I believe, March
retrospective back in, I believe, March or April of last year. So, we're going,
or April of last year. So, we're going, you know, close to a year on doing this
you know, close to a year on doing this retrospective, which is completely
retrospective, which is completely different than A Feast for Crows. threes
different than A Feast for Crows. threes for Crows. I got through it pretty
for Crows. I got through it pretty quick. Um, you know, it was I kind of
quick. Um, you know, it was I kind of banged that out. I didn't take any, you
banged that out. I didn't take any, you know, breaks. I just kind of went
know, breaks. I just kind of went through that pretty quick. A dance was
through that pretty quick. A dance was not that case. I needed a bit of a break
not that case. I needed a bit of a break from the book. You know, when you have
from the book. You know, when you have that first half of the book and you have
that first half of the book and you have so many plot lines that are just not at
so many plot lines that are just not at their best, right? When you get to
their best, right? When you get to Tyrion after he leaves Young Griff,
Tyrion after he leaves Young Griff, almost every time you see Tyrion as a
almost every time you see Tyrion as a POV, you just don't want to read the
POV, you just don't want to read the chapter. And you also have the exiting
chapter. And you also have the exiting of really good POVs in the first half of
of really good POVs in the first half of the book. So there's this weird
the book. So there's this weird transition where yes, when you do get to
transition where yes, when you do get to that like back three4s of the book, it's
that like back three4s of the book, it's just great. Most of the chapters are
just great. Most of the chapters are some of the best of the entire series,
some of the best of the entire series, but it's that transitional period when
but it's that transitional period when you start losing POVs like Davos, who is
you start losing POVs like Davos, who is my third rated POV of the book, Bran,
my third rated POV of the book, Bran, who I was really positive of in this
who I was really positive of in this book. You lose both of those. They don't
book. You lose both of those. They don't show up, right? They just kind of end
show up, right? They just kind of end halfway into this book and you know you
halfway into this book and you know you have Tyrion entering that back half of
have Tyrion entering that back half of his. You have Quentyn who stole a very
his. You have Quentyn who stole a very prominent POV given that there's a lot
prominent POV given that there's a lot of characters in this book that have
of characters in this book that have just around that two to four POV uh
just around that two to four POV uh length or count of chapters and he's
length or count of chapters and he's pretty prominent in the first half
pretty prominent in the first half especially. Um he kind of is weird
especially. Um he kind of is weird because he has two chapters that are
because he has two chapters that are relatively close together in the first
relatively close together in the first half and then he has two two chapters
half and then he has two two chapters very close to the very end of the book.
very close to the very end of the book. So, he's another weird one as well. But
So, he's another weird one as well. But to me, this book when it was in its
to me, this book when it was in its best, the things I love the most and one
best, the things I love the most and one of the themes, one of the things I think
of the themes, one of the things I think George was trying to tell with this
George was trying to tell with this story was when we were looking at
story was when we were looking at characters being put in situations where
characters being put in situations where they have to rule, where they have to be
they have to rule, where they have to be the person in charge of a lot of
the person in charge of a lot of different people and trying to get
different people and trying to get cultures to blend together. My favorite
cultures to blend together. My favorite parts of Daenerys's plotline
parts of Daenerys's plotline specifically was when we were focusing
specifically was when we were focusing on how does Daenerys, you know, deal
on how does Daenerys, you know, deal with this whole freed men and slavery
with this whole freed men and slavery issue, right? You have a foundation, a a
issue, right? You have a foundation, a a city or a I would say more of a land
city or a I would say more of a land mass in Essos that has known slavery for
mass in Essos that has known slavery for so long. How do you transition now to a
so long. How do you transition now to a period in which you uprooted all of that
period in which you uprooted all of that to have people that are all freed? How
to have people that are all freed? How do you deal with those issues? How do
do you deal with those issues? How do you integrate those two cultures? How do
you integrate those two cultures? How do you deal with, you know, slavers rising
you deal with, you know, slavers rising up again and enslaving people like what
up again and enslaving people like what happens basically in Astapore when all
happens basically in Astapore when all those refugees are coming to Marine? How
those refugees are coming to Marine? How does she deal with the plague uh that
does she deal with the plague uh that that's happening right now, the flux? I
that's happening right now, the flux? I loved those aspects of Daenerys a lot.
loved those aspects of Daenerys a lot. It really took the foundations of A
It really took the foundations of A Feast for Crows and Cersei's plotline
Feast for Crows and Cersei's plotline specifically of the struggles of
specifically of the struggles of rulership and heightened it in this
rulership and heightened it in this book. And Jon also has to deal with that
book. And Jon also has to deal with that in a very similar but different way. Jon
in a very similar but different way. Jon as Lord Commander, he has to somehow be
as Lord Commander, he has to somehow be able to manage Stannis and the Queen and
able to manage Stannis and the Queen and their faction throughout this book. He
their faction throughout this book. He has to try and get the Wildlings and and
has to try and get the Wildlings and and the Nights Watch to see eye to eye to
the Nights Watch to see eye to eye to fight this common threat of the others.
fight this common threat of the others. And we see that both of these leaders,
And we see that both of these leaders, Daenerys and Jon fail. By the end of
Daenerys and Jon fail. By the end of this book, both of them fail.
this book, both of them fail. And I think that what George is trying
And I think that what George is trying to show us is how difficult things can
to show us is how difficult things can be. Having ideas are great, but how do
be. Having ideas are great, but how do you integrate them? How do you be a
you integrate them? How do you be a leader? You have to have so many, you
leader? You have to have so many, you know, different skills to make you a
know, different skills to make you a good leader. You have to be able to
good leader. You have to be able to communicate effectively, right? Lead by
communicate effectively, right? Lead by example in a lot of ways. Something that
example in a lot of ways. Something that John, I think, fails to do much later in
John, I think, fails to do much later in the book when he's saying he's going to
the book when he's saying he's going to go to Winterfell and all this stuff when
go to Winterfell and all this stuff when he's a Lord Commander, even though we
he's a Lord Commander, even though we understand those emotions. And so, I
understand those emotions. And so, I think he does a really good job in this
think he does a really good job in this book putting us in that position. The
book putting us in that position. The other main part of this book that I
other main part of this book that I really enjoyed that was a definitely a
really enjoyed that was a definitely a big strength was when we took characters
big strength was when we took characters and we investigated their past, right?
and we investigated their past, right? We we looked at characters like John
We we looked at characters like John Conington and Theon. They're the two
Conington and Theon. They're the two main ones in this book that we're
main ones in this book that we're looking at their past. We're having them
looking at their past. We're having them visit places of where they used to be
visit places of where they used to be when they were younger. So John
when they were younger. So John Conington for instance in his second
Conington for instance in his second chapter when he goes to Griffin's roost
chapter when he goes to Griffin's roost um you know that chapter is great
um you know that chapter is great exploring the decisions he made the
exploring the decisions he made the mistakes he might have made and how
mistakes he might have made and how those change him as a person is
those change him as a person is obviously to me the best POV of this
obviously to me the best POV of this book. He carries especially the early to
book. He carries especially the early to mid part of this book. Every chapter
mid part of this book. Every chapter that he has only improves and gets
that he has only improves and gets better and works on the foundations of
better and works on the foundations of the last. ties perfectly into his Clash
the last. ties perfectly into his Clash of Kings arc and, you know, his whole
of Kings arc and, you know, his whole journey of self-discovery, becoming, you
journey of self-discovery, becoming, you know, a better version of himself,
know, a better version of himself, becoming a a new Theon,
becoming a a new Theon, as you will, as he's leaving this
as you will, as he's leaving this character of Reek and this trauma that
character of Reek and this trauma that he's experienced under Ramsay. His
he's experienced under Ramsay. His chapters are incredibly dark. They're
chapters are incredibly dark. They're fascinating. And by the end of it, you
fascinating. And by the end of it, you feel very fulfilled by what occurs in
feel very fulfilled by what occurs in this, right? You get this idea of Greek,
this, right? You get this idea of Greek, you know, breaking away from Theon. and
you know, breaking away from Theon. and now he's in Stannis's.
now he's in Stannis's. And so a lot of those themes when
And so a lot of those themes when they're talked about are really done
they're talked about are really done extremely well. You know, you also have
extremely well. You know, you also have things like greed all as always. And you
things like greed all as always. And you have, you know, a lot of the other
have, you know, a lot of the other themes that George likes to do.
themes that George likes to do. Anti-war. Those are not nearly as
Anti-war. Those are not nearly as present as say they were maybe in the
present as say they were maybe in the last book. Like anti-war was a big one
last book. Like anti-war was a big one in the last book with Brienne's arc. We
in the last book with Brienne's arc. We don't see Brienne outside of the very
don't see Brienne outside of the very end of a Jaime chapter that we get in
end of a Jaime chapter that we get in this book. We do have also a sense of,
this book. We do have also a sense of, you know, feuds. How do people put their
you know, feuds. How do people put their feuds, you know, away? How do those ties
feuds, you know, away? How do those ties to histories of generations of violence
to histories of generations of violence uh between families? How does that get
uh between families? How does that get resolved? We see that a number of times,
resolved? We see that a number of times, whether that's with the Bracken
whether that's with the Bracken Blackwood issue that we see through
Blackwood issue that we see through Jaime's POV, which is one of my favorite
Jaime's POV, which is one of my favorite chapters of the book, of course, but we
chapters of the book, of course, but we only get one Jaime chapter, which is
only get one Jaime chapter, which is unfortunate. But learning this history
unfortunate. But learning this history between the black the Blackwoods and the
between the black the Blackwoods and the Brackens which they seems like neither
Brackens which they seems like neither side really has the full truth of what
side really has the full truth of what actually occurred and this has caused
actually occurred and this has caused violence between the two families for
violence between the two families for years now. We see the same idea with the
years now. We see the same idea with the wildlings and also the nights watchmen.
wildlings and also the nights watchmen. We see that between northern houses in
We see that between northern houses in the north for instance. We see this with
the north for instance. We see this with the slavers and the freed men and
the slavers and the freed men and marine. It's a very present theme,
marine. It's a very present theme, right? Looking at how families and
right? Looking at how families and different people have had rivalries and
different people have had rivalries and issues with each other and how that
issues with each other and how that affects their decision-making. We kind
affects their decision-making. We kind of see that with the Dorne plot as well
of see that with the Dorne plot as well when we get the Ara Ario Hoda chapter in
when we get the Ara Ario Hoda chapter in this book. So, there's a lot of those
this book. So, there's a lot of those themes that I think that when he focuses
themes that I think that when he focuses on those things, he does a really good
on those things, he does a really good job. you know, talking about some of the
job. you know, talking about some of the things that, you know, going back to
things that, you know, going back to what I really, you know, did not like in
what I really, you know, did not like in this book is
this book is George definitely in A Feast for Crows
George definitely in A Feast for Crows and A Dance of Dragons had much more of
and A Dance of Dragons had much more of a focus on filling the world out, the
a focus on filling the world out, the world building, and I think it's not as
world building, and I think it's not as noticeable in the Feast for Crows
noticeable in the Feast for Crows because when he's introducing these
because when he's introducing these other plot lines like the Dorne plot,
other plot lines like the Dorne plot, like the Greyjoy plot, they serve a
like the Greyjoy plot, they serve a purpose to the overall narrative and
purpose to the overall narrative and they also forward the plot while also
they also forward the plot while also building new characters. And one thing I
building new characters. And one thing I didn't like in this book is, you know,
didn't like in this book is, you know, it seemed like George didn't manage that
it seemed like George didn't manage that as well in this book. Tyrion to me is
as well in this book. Tyrion to me is the perfect example. Tyrion, you know,
the perfect example. Tyrion, you know, his whole journey is basically him
his whole journey is basically him journeying to Meereen. A number of
journeying to Meereen. A number of characters doing that in this book.
characters doing that in this book. Think about how many characters are
Think about how many characters are trying to reach, you know, Daenerys in
trying to reach, you know, Daenerys in this book. You know, you have a
this book. You know, you have a character like Quentyn whose entire
character like Quentyn whose entire journey was foreshadowed in the last
journey was foreshadowed in the last book with Arian and how he's going to
book with Arian and how he's going to try and fulfill this contract that was
try and fulfill this contract that was between Viseris and also Arian. So, it's
between Viseris and also Arian. So, it's kind of different terms and so Quentyn
kind of different terms and so Quentyn has this little journey of trying to get
has this little journey of trying to get to Meereen. That plot line is very
to Meereen. That plot line is very convenient. Uh Quentyn himself isn't
convenient. Uh Quentyn himself isn't that very isn't that interesting of a
that very isn't that interesting of a character. his plot line isn't original
character. his plot line isn't original given the fact that we already have
given the fact that we already have Tyrion trying to make his way to Marine.
Tyrion trying to make his way to Marine. Later on we have Victarion trying to
Later on we have Victarion trying to make his way to Meereine. And so, you
make his way to Meereine. And so, you know, Quentyn unfortunately is of those
know, Quentyn unfortunately is of those three plot lines by far the most boring.
three plot lines by far the most boring. Uh, and he's not a good character. At
Uh, and he's not a good character. At least with Tyrion, he's a good
least with Tyrion, he's a good character. So, we care about him more
character. So, we care about him more than we do with Quentyn. Victarion's
than we do with Quentyn. Victarion's fun. So, the the thing I'm trying to get
fun. So, the the thing I'm trying to get at though is the point is like a lot of
at though is the point is like a lot of these chapters feel like, oh, okay, we
these chapters feel like, oh, okay, we want to see more of Atlantis. This is
want to see more of Atlantis. This is George's time to show us more about how
George's time to show us more about how these other cities work. And the problem
these other cities work. And the problem with that, like that isn't a bad premise
with that, like that isn't a bad premise when you think about it, but the idea
when you think about it, but the idea here is just not very good in execution,
here is just not very good in execution, right? It's a lot of walking around, you
right? It's a lot of walking around, you know, and aimlessly. or it's Tyrion with
know, and aimlessly. or it's Tyrion with Jorah and they don't bounce off each
Jorah and they don't bounce off each other particularly well and so it's not
other particularly well and so it's not very interesting to read in general. So
very interesting to read in general. So there's that aspect of it that I think
there's that aspect of it that I think really holds this book down that there
really holds this book down that there is a lot of chapters that the plot isn't
is a lot of chapters that the plot isn't moving all that much. Character
moving all that much. Character development isn't forwarding that much
development isn't forwarding that much really and it's just feels like world
really and it's just feels like world building and just filling out the world.
building and just filling out the world. Uh, it feels like kind of stuff you
Uh, it feels like kind of stuff you would see maybe in Fire and Blood, but
would see maybe in Fire and Blood, but with Fire and Blood, it makes more sense
with Fire and Blood, it makes more sense because Fire and Blood is meant to be a
because Fire and Blood is meant to be a history book. It's meant to like fill
history book. It's meant to like fill out the world and history of Westeros
out the world and history of Westeros and all that. It just doesn't feel all
and all that. It just doesn't feel all that natural a lot of the times or it's
that natural a lot of the times or it's not very interesting or compelling to
not very interesting or compelling to read in A Song of Ice and Fire,
read in A Song of Ice and Fire, especially in Dance Dragons. So, you
especially in Dance Dragons. So, you know, there's that part of it that I I
know, there's that part of it that I I really didn't enjoy all that much in
really didn't enjoy all that much in this book. I I think that, you know,
this book. I I think that, you know, this book, a lot of its problems really
this book, a lot of its problems really just rely in kind of Essos. I think the
just rely in kind of Essos. I think the Essos side of the story in this book
Essos side of the story in this book wasn't very good. Uh, for the most part,
wasn't very good. Uh, for the most part, like Daenerys is solid. I think that
like Daenerys is solid. I think that she's definitely a a middle of the pack
she's definitely a a middle of the pack POV. I had her ranked like 10th, which
POV. I had her ranked like 10th, which sounds bad, you know, given how many
sounds bad, you know, given how many chapters she has. She has 10 chapters in
chapters she has. She has 10 chapters in this book. But at the same time, I mean,
this book. But at the same time, I mean, to me personally, she was solid. She
to me personally, she was solid. She just never really was that great outside
just never really was that great outside of one chapter. I I think Daenerys 9
of one chapter. I I think Daenerys 9 where she rides Strogon fantastic
where she rides Strogon fantastic chapter. I just felt very mixed about
chapter. I just felt very mixed about Daenerys's plotline throughout
Daenerys's plotline throughout mainly because I think the love interest
mainly because I think the love interest plotline just to me I just didn't enjoy
plotline just to me I just didn't enjoy reading it because of how much focus is
reading it because of how much focus is on that. Even not even in Daenerys's
on that. Even not even in Daenerys's chapters like other people's chapters
chapters like other people's chapters like I mentioned with Daenerys Daenerys
like I mentioned with Daenerys Daenerys like she was fine in this book. I I
like she was fine in this book. I I think that it's better than A Clash of
think that it's better than A Clash of Kings in terms of her plotline, but I
Kings in terms of her plotline, but I think Storm of Swords and Game of
think Storm of Swords and Game of Thrones are just miles better than her
Thrones are just miles better than her in this book. Unfortunately, I think Jon
in this book. Unfortunately, I think Jon and the North is where this book shines
and the North is where this book shines and also the Feast for Crows characters,
and also the Feast for Crows characters, they get POVs in this book because one
they get POVs in this book because one thing that Dance with Dragons gets that
thing that Dance with Dragons gets that that unfortunately for Feast for Crows
that unfortunately for Feast for Crows doesn't get and one of the reasons Fast
doesn't get and one of the reasons Fast for Crows to me doesn't really touch the
for Crows to me doesn't really touch the first three books is because of a lot of
first three books is because of a lot of the conclusions aren't really like, wow,
the conclusions aren't really like, wow, those are great chapters, best of the
those are great chapters, best of the series. A lot of them aren't like that,
series. A lot of them aren't like that, you know, outside of maybe Brienne. But
you know, outside of maybe Brienne. But when you have, you know, for instance,
when you have, you know, for instance, Cersei's walk of atonement in this book,
Cersei's walk of atonement in this book, which is by far one of the best chapters
which is by far one of the best chapters in this book and of the series, you
in this book and of the series, you know, it gets basically the conclusion
know, it gets basically the conclusion of the feast arc, right? Cersei comes in
of the feast arc, right? Cersei comes in for two banger chapters and fulfills her
for two banger chapters and fulfills her feast arc. And, you know, we get into
feast arc. And, you know, we get into Winds of Winter. So, Dance Dragons
Winds of Winter. So, Dance Dragons definitely has the luxury of getting to
definitely has the luxury of getting to finish off a lot of the stuff that
finish off a lot of the stuff that George spent an entire book building in
George spent an entire book building in A Feast for Crows. you know, Arya's, you
A Feast for Crows. you know, Arya's, you know, storyline, her plot, her two
know, storyline, her plot, her two chatters that she has in this book are
chatters that she has in this book are far better than they are than in Feast
far better than they are than in Feast for Crows with her three. So, you know,
for Crows with her three. So, you know, you have Arya's conclusion is solid in
you have Arya's conclusion is solid in this book. You know, the North stuff is
this book. You know, the North stuff is great. Jon's good. Theon's good. Asha is
great. Jon's good. Theon's good. Asha is great. Stannis's plotline is fantastic.
great. Stannis's plotline is fantastic. So, you have a lot of really good plot
So, you have a lot of really good plot lines, you know, in the north and, you
lines, you know, in the north and, you know, in those other characters that are
know, in those other characters that are coming back from Future Scarion as well.
coming back from Future Scarion as well. It's just the ones that have such a
It's just the ones that have such a heavy focus in Essos. You know, Quentyn,
heavy focus in Essos. You know, Quentyn, Tyrion, Daenerys, those three characters
Tyrion, Daenerys, those three characters between them, they have a ton of
between them, they have a ton of chapters. Like that's 20 26 chapters,
chapters. Like that's 20 26 chapters, you know, and you know, if I was to pick
you know, and you know, if I was to pick and choose out of those, I'd say, you
and choose out of those, I'd say, you know, maybe four or five of them would
know, maybe four or five of them would be in my top 30 to 35 of this book.
be in my top 30 to 35 of this book. That's not great. And so I think where
That's not great. And so I think where this book struggled was by far I would
this book struggled was by far I would say some of the more main plot lines of
say some of the more main plot lines of the book. Daenerys, Tyrion, even though
the book. Daenerys, Tyrion, even though I think Daenerys is fine again. So, you
I think Daenerys is fine again. So, you know, long story short, you know, when
know, long story short, you know, when looking at at this book specifically, I
looking at at this book specifically, I think your strengths were I think there
think your strengths were I think there were some really good themes that George
were some really good themes that George covered that I talked about earlier in
covered that I talked about earlier in this video. I think the North plot was a
this video. I think the North plot was a huge strength. I think the Feast for
huge strength. I think the Feast for Crows POVs that came back in this book,
Crows POVs that came back in this book, great. I think a lot of those highs of
great. I think a lot of those highs of this book were really high. Like this
this book were really high. Like this book ends on a fantastic note. I think
book ends on a fantastic note. I think if you ask casual fans, people that have
if you ask casual fans, people that have only read the books once or maybe twice.
only read the books once or maybe twice. A Dance Dragons I think would be more
A Dance Dragons I think would be more highly rated than me for instance,
highly rated than me for instance, because this book ends so well. Now, it
because this book ends so well. Now, it doesn't end perfectly. I'll talk about
doesn't end perfectly. I'll talk about that in the negatives, but it does end
that in the negatives, but it does end really, really good. like, you know, you
really, really good. like, you know, you have Quentyn's death, you have Barrist,
have Quentyn's death, you have Barrist, you know, they're about they're about to
you know, they're about they're about to fight the slavers, you have Jon's death,
fight the slavers, you have Jon's death, Theon and Asha, you know, reconciling.
Theon and Asha, you know, reconciling. There's really a lot of great payoffs
There's really a lot of great payoffs that's been built up throughout this
that's been built up throughout this book. You know, Cersei's end, Arya's
book. You know, Cersei's end, Arya's end. So, a lot of great stuff that ends
end. So, a lot of great stuff that ends on a really high moment that makes you
on a really high moment that makes you excited and wanting to read, especially
excited and wanting to read, especially um the last chapter of the epilogue.
um the last chapter of the epilogue. Kevin, the I think the best epilogue of
Kevin, the I think the best epilogue of of the story outside of maybe Daenerys,
of the story outside of maybe Daenerys, even though I know it's not an epilogue,
even though I know it's not an epilogue, you know, it's not Daenerys is not the
you know, it's not Daenerys is not the epilogue character, you know, doesn't
epilogue character, you know, doesn't carry on the tradition of the story, but
carry on the tradition of the story, but Daenerys has the best ending chapter, I
Daenerys has the best ending chapter, I think, of all the books, but Kevin is
think, of all the books, but Kevin is second. And that chapter leads you on
second. And that chapter leads you on such a high note to wanting Winds of
such a high note to wanting Winds of Winter. And so I I did this as well, I
Winter. And so I I did this as well, I think, in my I think it was my my POV
think, in my I think it was my my POV rankings that this book ends so well
rankings that this book ends so well that you remember it. You remember A
that you remember it. You remember A Dance Dragons more than you do A Feast
Dance Dragons more than you do A Feast for Crows if you've only read the books
for Crows if you've only read the books probably once or twice and I think it
probably once or twice and I think it sticks with you more. So I I I do the
sticks with you more. So I I I do the season six effect. Season 6 is not a
season six effect. Season 6 is not a good season of Game of Thrones, but
good season of Game of Thrones, but because it ends on episode 9, which is
because it ends on episode 9, which is Battle of the Bastards, then episode 10
Battle of the Bastards, then episode 10 with all the stuff, Deceptive of Bor,
with all the stuff, Deceptive of Bor, Cersei's plot line, some of the wrapping
Cersei's plot line, some of the wrapping up of some of the other plot lines,
up of some of the other plot lines, which are really great, Jon Snow's
which are really great, Jon Snow's parentage reveal, all of those things.
parentage reveal, all of those things. So, because season 6 ends on such a high
So, because season 6 ends on such a high note, most people will say that season 6
note, most people will say that season 6 was better than season five, for
was better than season five, for instance, right? because of the way
instance, right? because of the way season 6 ended. Where in reality,
season 6 ended. Where in reality, I personally like season 5 better than
I personally like season 5 better than season 6 because season 5 is more
season 6 because season 5 is more consistently has good quality moments
consistently has good quality moments outside of it all just being in like the
outside of it all just being in like the last like maybe episode or two of a
last like maybe episode or two of a season. And that's kind of how Dance
season. And that's kind of how Dance Dragons feels with Fast for Crows. Like
Dragons feels with Fast for Crows. Like Feast Feast for Crows is more steadily
Feast Feast for Crows is more steadily good throughout the entire book, whereas
good throughout the entire book, whereas dance is all over the place. It varies
dance is all over the place. It varies heavily from chapter to chapter. So
heavily from chapter to chapter. So yeah, that's kind of my my strengths for
yeah, that's kind of my my strengths for this book. I think it has incredible
this book. I think it has incredible highs. Some of the plot lines are great
highs. Some of the plot lines are great in this book. Some of the highest
in this book. Some of the highest moments of the series. Some of the
moments of the series. Some of the themes that are brought to the table
themes that are brought to the table were fantastic. Negatives of the book
were fantastic. Negatives of the book really do include, you know, Tyrion and
really do include, you know, Tyrion and Quentyn. I would say the Essos plot in
Quentyn. I would say the Essos plot in general uh could have been a lot better,
general uh could have been a lot better, could have been condensed more. I think
could have been condensed more. I think that really would have helped this book
that really would have helped this book as a whole. Again, incredible lows. The
as a whole. Again, incredible lows. The the floor of this book is much lower
the floor of this book is much lower than I think the rest of the series. I
than I think the rest of the series. I can't think of any other book in the
can't think of any other book in the series that has this amount of chapters
series that has this amount of chapters that I would say is probably in the top
that I would say is probably in the top 10 worst chapters of the entire series.
10 worst chapters of the entire series. That's not great in this book. I think
That's not great in this book. I think you know something I haven't mentioned
you know something I haven't mentioned some of the finales of the characters
some of the finales of the characters get cut off.
get cut off. Battle of ice, battle of fire, probably
Battle of ice, battle of fire, probably the battle of steel we should have seen
the battle of steel we should have seen with the stuff at Storm's End. All that
with the stuff at Storm's End. All that stuff gets cut out of this book. And so
stuff gets cut out of this book. And so you have some characters that end on
you have some characters that end on really weird notes like Asha's been
really weird notes like Asha's been building up to this battle with the
building up to this battle with the Boltons the entire book and that gets
Boltons the entire book and that gets cut off as soon as she meets Theon.
cut off as soon as she meets Theon. Really weird way to end Asha even though
Really weird way to end Asha even though she's really good throughout the book.
she's really good throughout the book. Weird way to end it. Barristen, albeit,
Weird way to end it. Barristen, albeit, you know, I I really like his POVs at
you know, I I really like his POVs at the very end of the book. He ends on
the very end of the book. He ends on another weird note. It seems like with
another weird note. It seems like with Daenerys, we've been building up to this
Daenerys, we've been building up to this conflict with the slavers the entire
conflict with the slavers the entire time. That never happens in this book.
time. That never happens in this book. it gets pushed over to the next book.
it gets pushed over to the next book. You know, John Conington and the young
You know, John Conington and the young Griff plotline seemed like it still had
Griff plotline seemed like it still had more to do in this book and kind of gets
more to do in this book and kind of gets cut off, which is unfortunate given it's
cut off, which is unfortunate given it's one of my favorite plot lines going into
one of my favorite plot lines going into the next book. And so I think this book
the next book. And so I think this book and so I think this book where it
and so I think this book where it concluded some characters incredibly
concluded some characters incredibly well, like best of the series, others
well, like best of the series, others you still are really anticipating them,
you still are really anticipating them, but in this book as a whole, they don't
but in this book as a whole, they don't conclude that great. It feels kind of
conclude that great. It feels kind of weird where George, you know, placed
weird where George, you know, placed these characters to to stop their story.
these characters to to stop their story. And so, you know, getting to the end of
And so, you know, getting to the end of this conclusion and, you know, all of
this conclusion and, you know, all of that, I I really want to say I was very
that, I I really want to say I was very critical of a Dance of Dragon. I think
critical of a Dance of Dragon. I think there's more to talk about in terms of
there's more to talk about in terms of what A Dance Dragons does well and what
what A Dance Dragons does well and what it doesn't. And, you know, it's very
it doesn't. And, you know, it's very different from Feast for Crows where I
different from Feast for Crows where I feel like a Fast for Crows, it's a
feel like a Fast for Crows, it's a consistent book throughout. So, there's
consistent book throughout. So, there's not a lot of like super huge negatives
not a lot of like super huge negatives to talk about with that book. Whereas
to talk about with that book. Whereas this one, there definitely is. I want
this one, there definitely is. I want you guys to know, regardless of what
you guys to know, regardless of what your opinion is of this book, I know a
your opinion is of this book, I know a lot of people like this book, like in
lot of people like this book, like in their top three, I do like this book. I
their top three, I do like this book. I I love this book, but it has flaws. I
I love this book, but it has flaws. I can love something and still point out
can love something and still point out things I didn't enjoy about it or things
things I didn't enjoy about it or things that had flaws in it, right? You know, I
that had flaws in it, right? You know, I love the Star Wars prequels. I can
love the Star Wars prequels. I can realize those have flaws in
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