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This episode of "Good Hang" features a conversation with actress, producer, and writer Rachel Sennott, discussing her career, new show "I Love LA," personal experiences, and creative process, with insights from her friend Molly Gordon.
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Hello everyone. Welcome to another
episode of Good Hang. Very excited about
our guest today. It is the great Rachel
Senate, a super interesting, funny,
charismatic actress, producer, writer.
You know her from the film Shiva Baby
from Bodies, Bodies Bodies, from
Bottoms. She has a new show that's out
right now on HBO called I Love LA. We're
going to talk about that. We're going to
talk about so many things. Uh open mic
nights. But we're going to talk about
Tik Tok and how to use it and work it
and what we love about it. She's going
to give me fashion advice and she's
going to give me reasons to love LA,
which is what her show is all about. So,
very great conversation. But before we
get started, we always talk to someone
who knows our guest, who can tell me
something about our guest and give me a
question to ask our guest. And we have
another supremely talented, delightful
young woman joining us today, Molly
Gordon. Molly Gordon is an actor. You
may know her from the hit show The Bear,
where she plays Claire. She is Claire on
the Bear. Um, and she's in films such as
Theater Camp and Oh High. She's super
talented. And Molly uh is going to join
us and give us some info about her buddy
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>> Hi, it's nice to meet you. Yeah, I've
always seen you from afar and like I'm
trying to send you very intense love and
I don't know if I've fully found my way
over but um but yeah, but honestly I've
been listening to your podcast before I
go to sleep. So you've been spending a
lot of intimate time with me.
>> Oh, yay. That makes me feel happy. It's
I'm was thrilled you wanted to talk today.
today.
>> I'm so excited to talk about my my wife. So
So
>> she really is your wife. Look, I uh I
was looking at the stuff that you and
Rachel have done together and how long
you've known each other and you really
are are married. Legally married.
>> We're legally married. Um she
>> Yeah, it's she's my wife. We talk every
single day. Um >> Wow.
>> Wow.
>> We if one of us doesn't respond, we'll
just keep calling and it's hard to know
when it's like an emergency or not, I
would say, with with her. Um, but yeah,
she's an incredible human being and like
I you guys together is going to be magic.
magic.
>> Well, I'm thrilled to talk about her
today with you. But before I do, let's
not forget about Molly. >> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> What's Molly up to today?
>> I'm prepping um a movie that I'm going
to direct. >> Fantastic.
>> Fantastic.
>> That I'm that I'm actually gonna send
you Amy at some point so we can Yeah.
>> And you have to tell me live on the
podcast if you want to be a part of it
or not. Um, but uh but I'm good. I just
I made hot tea and then I burned I like
burned my whole mouth and then spit it
out all over the computer and that's
kind of where I'm at right now.
>> Let's talk about tea for a second cuz
I'm a tea girl more than a coffee girl.
Are you too?
>> I like tea. I I violently wake up and I
want like seven coffees, a matcha, then
I have a tea around 3.
>> Okay. And what kind of tea do you like
to drink? So, I love this hot cinnamon spice
spice
>> Harley and Sun's tea, but usually
English breakfast or peppermint. You
>> thanks for asking. I enjoy my favorite
tea is a an Irish tea called Berries tea
which I highly recommend
>> and it's a black tea and I don't like
any other I mean maybe occasionally I'll
do a peppermint like if I've had a like
a big meal
>> just want to chill out
>> we needed to move through you in a way
got it
>> yeah totally but I've switched entirely
from co I used to be kind of a coffee
person now I'm totally tea and It's made
a diff.
>> And do you feel like that's changed your
whole personality?
>> It definitely has changed my stomach's
personality cuz I used to have to drink
coffee like it was melted ice cream,
like tons of cream and sugar. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Um and now it's helped a lot to not have
to get into that like just to have that
much [ __ ] in my stomach. Not have to go
to the bathroom every morning. Totally.
I I uh yeah, I moved back to New York
and I was like, "Oh, it's it's really
fun to like drink so much coffee and
then like be trying to make it home to
your house." Like I was nostalgic living
in LA for that like am I going to make
it home?
>> Yes. I mean there for people who you
know and this happen this happens in a
lot of cities but like you get to know
where you have to quickly go to the
bathroom. You have to learn and in Los
Angeles you're kind of in trouble. You
spend a lot of time in your car.
>> It's tough. A sweet green. They're
pretty kind at a sweet green. I I do
have to say
>> they're sweet.
>> Yeah, they're sweet.
>> So, when when was the first time you
met? Tell us about your meat cute of
when you met your wife. So, I met my
wife um MX Eleman, the director of Shiva
Baby, had a set of breakfast for me and Rachel
Rachel
and we all ate and Rachel thought I was
like a real actress cuz Rachel had just
like been a standup and and she she was
asking me a lot like what it's like to
be a real actress and and lots of
questions and um and I was kind of like
I'm the normal I'm just I don't really
get work and like we're because I'd been
in like one movie Um, but she Yeah. And
then we like we read the script together
and she was so funny. And I had just
never met like women my age that were that
that
um unapolog unapologetically ambitious. >> Like
>> Like
>> she is so honest about what she wants in
her life and like what she does, what
she's trying to achieve, like her what
she does every day. And I would always
hide that I wanted those things. And I
feel like
It was just so inspiring. But yeah, I
agree. Like I think she kind of showed
me with like with that film she was
trying out so many different things and
you know it's that movie is a lot about
sexuality and all these things but she
just showed me you don't have to fit in
like some box. She was like sometimes I
want to do this, sometimes I want to do
this and like I don't know I I when I
was thinking about what I wanted to ask
her, I was like how did you have that confidence?
confidence?
That's exactly what I wanted to start
with because but it's a funny question,
right? I've been doing this podcast for
a while and there's people that come in
and I want to say how did you know what
you knew? Like like how how did how did
you get this sense of yourself? And it's
a hard one to answer because it's
sometimes it's just kind of the way that
they came out into the world. Totally.
And she's still speaking of what we're
saying about containing multitudes, like
she's still really vulnerable, but she's
just But I don't The first time I met
her, Amy, she was like, "I wrote four
scripts. I'm doing this. I want to do
this." And like I had just never seen
anyone act that way because you think,
"Oh, that's like gonna show that you
have a big head or something." But it's
like, no, she wants to create things. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Um,
>> Um,
>> but I don't know. It's it's you can get
into it with her, but it's like, yeah,
she wants to create things and she wants
to have great sex and she wants to have
a great meal and she wants to cuddle
with her friends. Like, she wants all of
those things and there's nothing wrong
with that. And you don't need to choose
one lane to be in or something.
>> Shiva Baby was made for $200,000. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Wow.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah. It's crazy.
>> And and how much did it end up making?
>> And that all went to me.
>> Yeah. You have a your quote was $199,000.
$199,000.
>> Yeah, I I had only worked a little bit,
but my quote was um I don't know how
much it made, but it uh definitely not
that much because it came out in co. We
do have to say Emma and I and Rachel
always laugh that the movie is huge in London.
London.
>> We don't think a lot of people don't
know it in the States, but in London
we're huge.
>> You walk around and it's it's like the Beatles
Beatles
>> in London. I'm like having to go like
this. But everywhere else it's
completely [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah.
>> There must be a lot of like Jewish women
who have sex at Chivas. I don't know.
Good for them.
>> And they all live in London. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Um Okay. So, just to be clear,
uh your question for Rachel is what?
>> My question for Rachel is people have
said that you from a young age were very
unapologetically ambitious. Where did
that come from or how did you learn to
be that way? Where did that instinct
where was the through line?
>> Great question. Okay. And then the last
thing I'll say is there anything you
want me to any story you want me to
prompt Rachel to tell because she's a
very good storyteller I've noticed on
these kind of things. I'd love for you
to ask her about the the first time that
>> Fantastic.
>> I'm sorry. I just It's an incredible
story and she used to do it in Oh, and
I'd also love you to ask her if she'll
come back to standup.
>> Great. So, did she tell her fingering
story on stage? Okay, great.
>> It's not like a violation. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. You can say the Molly or
like someone was bringing up, you know,
some of your first pleasuring experience
or whatever, but um but I think her and
I need to get back to standup. I know
they're famous actors now, but it's like
come on, we got to see you on stage. I
know. They're so funny. And it standup
is so it is like I want to talk to her
about it because as you know like and
you know from being on stage like if you
can be on stage and hang in there you
build a muscle where you can kind of
almost you can handle almost anything
almost anything. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> It's so good talking to you. You've in
in the course of us talking you have
your hair has looked incredible down and
also looks incredible up.
>> I have to be honest it's a gorgeous
updo. It's so dirty, but it's really >> stunning.
>> stunning.
>> It is stunning.
>> Oh, and like and then you got like perfect.
perfect.
>> It looks like you're just ready to walk
out into the streets of London and just
be mobbed.
>> I got to be I got to get to London. I
just got to get to London.
>> All right. Have a blast.
>> Okay. Thank you so much. It was so fun
talking to you. >> Bye
>> Bye >> bye.
>> bye.
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>> How do you like the the height of this
chair as a fellow shorty?
>> I love it. I love it. And I love I love
that we're both short. I I always talk
about like is it a short set or a tall set.
set.
>> It's very true because we can't reach
things. Things are too high for us. And
also I like I don't like feeling I don't
like feeling short if that makes sense.
>> Right now I'm feeling very tall. Good.
>> I'm feeling 5'6.
>> We're both We're both giving 5'6 right now.
now.
>> We are.
>> That's my dream. 56 is my dream actually.
actually.
>> Me too.
>> I'm with Rachel Senate. She is here.
>> Rachel, I'm so happy that you're here. I
am so happy that you're here and so is
my entire family. My dad was freaking
out. And he was like,
>> "Tell me about your dad."
>> He I'm addicted to him. I My love is my dad.
dad.
>> Okay, this is what is so incredible
about people in their 30s. They love
their parents. We
>> you take you take a journey
>> and I literally just turned 30 like a
couple weeks ago and I looked it's
almost like you have to like go away and
be like I'm my own I'm an adult like you
don't even [ __ ] know me like and then
I like something shifted and you're like
>> you're my friends.
>> You know what it's actually I do want to
talk about that. That's actually really
deep. It does happen in your 20s. You
have to kind of separate. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> And it's painful. It's painful.
>> Was it painful for you?
>> Yes. And I'm like scared because I know
of everything I've done. I'm like both
of my parents are absolutely listening
to every second of this. Okay.
>> Other things they're like we'll skip
that one. So I'm like let me try to let
me try to
>> tell me about your parents. They are
what do they what what were they what
what are they like? What did they do?
What was their job? Because here's one
of my highest compliments. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> You seem like a Manhattan Nepo baby. And
you're not girl. Don't fur with me.
Thank you. Thank you.
>> Congrats. Thank you. I am maybe an
insurance nepo baby basically in that my
dad works in insurance and he did hook
me up with car insurance multiple times
cuz I was driving around with a car with
no insurance getting in car accidents
and he was like, "Let me help you."
>> He was like, "This is what I do.
>> This is what I do." So, my parents both
were accountants and they met when they
were both accountants at the same firm
and then um fell in love, dated secretly
>> because they were sort of like we got to
keep it lowkey, which like you
>> they're like, "We don't want it to mess
with the numbers. We don't want our
romance to get like to screw up the numbers."
numbers."
>> Literally, by the way, they when they
got married, they got a mug that said,
which doesn't make sense, a mug that
said, "Beware of accountants." they multiply.
multiply.
>> Which I'm like, they don't. You two were
already accountants and then you got
together and none of your five children
are accountants.
>> Well, excuse me. Five children. That's a
lot of children. Where are you in the
birth order of that?
>> I'm second oldest.
>> Ah, okay.
>> So, so they fell in love and they just started
started
>> they multiplied.
>> They and they multiplied. They started
popping them out. And I will say I feel
like they they
having five or four siblings, but being
in a big family is a huge part of who I
am because I think it's like
>> automatically you have so many different
personalities. It's like if you put us
all together, there's like you could
kind of make connections between like
pairs, but some of it is really random
like where you're like all of you guys.
And I think like my parents did a really
good job raising us and and sort of like
taking everyone basically like not
putting anyone's needs above another.
like everyone's career and what everyone
does is equally important and like you
sort of had to like you know shout at
the dinner table to be heard and like
you you automatically have to compromise
because it's like there there's no way
everyone's going to be happy all the
time. There's
>> people you have two very rightrain
parents it sounds like too like so are
you like an like and you have pursued a
very artistic path in your family with
the siblings. Does it go either way?
There's some people that are like strong
in STEM and numbers people and other
people that are artists.
>> We I would say we've got I'm gonna say
three artists,
>> but but because I'm going to say my mom
>> secret artist,
>> secret artist like she she did like my
first play ever with me. I was like, I
really want to audition for a play and
she was like, I'll audition with you.
>> This is so different.
>> So different. and she and she like sings
and like plays piano. So it's like I
feel like
>> the art was there.
>> My dad not an artist but like trying to
make everyone else do art. So he like
forced me and my siblings to like play
in a quartet for our family.
>> That's very mathy. That's very numbery.
>> Yes. Like you will play like m music and
instruments is still like
>> still kind of mathy
>> an accountant stream.
>> That's totally totally
>> versus whatever the hell I'm doing. It's
a little It's a little more lefty loosey.
loosey.
>> Well, what I love about what you just
said, because it does feel like you're
in a you grew up in a family where you
had to kind of,
>> you know, you just have to make space
for yourself. Yeah.
>> You have to figure it out. Like you
said, you have to kind of compete in a
healthy way. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> One of the or not or not healthy. One of
the things that I love about you, not
knowing you, we're meeting for the first
time, is that there's something about
the way that you are in your own
experience, like your own body that's
very grounded and very um self- assured.
And it's kind of like you have it or you
don't. It's like this ine ineffable
thing where you just you you make us
lean into you, Rachel. like you you're
kind of yourself in real time and we're
and we all become very interested and
curious about it. Like there's not a
grasping energy from you. you're kind of
doing your thing and people are like
invited to come along and that's really
nice of you to say and that means a lot
coming from you cuz you have I feel like
it's like in comedy and like I I read
your book I read Tina's book when I was
like in college and starting standup and
like I feel like especially when I think
to like the beginning when when you're
like the first not the first women in
comedy but like you're forming a group.
Like I feel like my friend group took so
much inspiration from you guys of being
like I've got my girls, you know what I
mean? And being like,
>> I'll go to the weird open mic with you
and the whatever, but like carving out
that space for yourself and being like
you come to us as opposed to like trying
to be a part of the other thing that
you're like not necessarily invited to.
>> So, let's get into Okay, we we talked
about your parents. You're in
Connecticut. You grow up in Connecticut.
And again, you seem like a Manhattan
kid. Congrats.
>> Thank you.
>> Um, Connecticut is a strange state cuz
it's like, where is it?
>> Who is it happening,
>> right? Like Red Sox, Yankees, like what
do you want?
>> Okay. And thank you for asking that. Red Sox.
Sox.
>> Red Sox. I got actually like absolutely
my dad reamed my ass because I put on my
boyfriend's Yankees cap. I just thought
it would be a little flirty. And I fa
picked up a FaceTime for my dad and he
was like, "Take that off right now.
>> Take that off right now. That's not
okay. You can't do it.
>> No, that's not okay.
>> So, you're more on the Boston side, but
you grow up there and you get to NYU. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Where is that jump from you like at the
dinner table being funny with your
family and deciding I want to get to NYU
and like be a performer? How does that happen?
happen?
>> It So, I always wanted to like perform.
I feel like I did the classic thing.
>> Well, you were in plays.
>> I was forcing I was doing plays.
>> You were in lay miz.
>> I was in lay miz. Wow. Yes.
>> What part? I was Madame Tinardier. Of
course. Wait, who?
>> She You just said it in a French way.
>> Madame Tinardier. I was I was She was
sort of Do you know the master of the
house? The his wife.
>> Oh, the master of the house lady. Yes.
>> Okay. Sorry, I should know her name.
>> No, she is the master of the house lady.
>> You had the comedic part.
>> Yes, I had the comedic part. And you
know, anytime I was in a play in high
school, they were like, "That's a witch
or the head of the like the prostitute
house." Like it was really it was like
that was the only parts I was getting
cast in. Why do you think that was? Why
as a little kid do they cuz I know
>> I know
>> but I but I kind of know what you mean
cuz it's usually the comedic part.
>> Yes. Yes.
>> Why were they like seeing some like were
you did you have like a maturity in that
age? Were you just like self- assured on
stage? Do you know what I mean? Like not nervous?
nervous?
>> I think it was like I was not vocally talented
talented
and loud and I think loud and I think like
like
>> I don't know. I I look I'm like it was
always like and you're the little the
ratty little whatever. And I'm like okay
I really I it cuz at that time I want I
was like obviously I want to be
Cassette. I want to be Ethan. I want to
be like singing the Pretty Little Voice.
>> They heard me sing three bars. They said,
said,
>> "But you're
>> you're going to speak the whole song."
>> And they're they're usually the most
boring of the songs. They are. I mean,
even though Epanine has some great has
some great songs. Lame is incredible. Yeah,
Yeah,
>> they're bangers. And And by the way, the
girl who played Epanine in my high
school like went on to play Epanine on
Broadway. And I was like, >> "Wow,
>> "Wow,
>> you know, Emily Bautista, I got to hand
it to you. You were meant for the part.
Voice. Voice of an angel. >> Incredible.
>> Incredible.
>> Incredible. So, I was like, I'm not
taking it personally.
>> Can we talk for a second about loud? >> Loud.
>> Loud.
>> Cuz I'm I'm relating. Like, I was a loud kid.
kid. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> And there's something like underneath
being like a loud young kid. That's kind
of can be very exciting, especially if
you're like a young woman. Not always.
Sometimes people don't like it. They
make you feel bad about it. Yeah,
>> but it is like it's like carving out
space, like taking up space somehow. And
people saw that in you.
>> Yeah. And they were like, she's not
afraid to I guess that or they were just
literally like we can't get her to shut
up. Like just give her this part and
maybe she'll lose her voice yelling on
stage and then she won't be like
annoying at home. But I do think you're
right. It's like you have to sort of
like be loud first and then figure out
how to make it like entertaining as you
go. But I think once you like break that
I also like
>> I feel like I've always had like a loud
laugh which like I've read about like
laugh at the table reads at SNL and
whatever and it's like
>> I think like not being afraid to like
bring joy into the space or be like
>> I don't know once once you start
shouting you're like I'm not going to
talk quiet like it's just you break into
that space and then you can
>> refine what what you're saying or how
funny it is or whatever. But I think
like that instinct was always there.
>> Yeah. And and that brings you to NYU
where you kind of join this class of
people who are now your friends and
successful actors and actresses in their
own right who you meet like tell us
about coming to NYU like those early
days there. I so I think I at first felt
like I didn't fit in at all and I had
like a really hard time because the
acting program was very like serious and
it was very like
>> Shakespeare and like we're doing we're
like walking around the room and you're
a cat and then you're like a chicken and
I was like but everyone's like crying
while they do it and I'm like what what
am I missing?
>> What am I missing? The the money is
gone. we've paid so I got to do
something with this but wow this is
crazy like it was that I was scared and
I just felt and
>> do you know what I mean like it's like
and and you're looking around and
everyone's like so locked into it so
you're like there's something wrong with me
me
>> do you think they were locked into it or
was it like pure pressure to feel locked
into it cuz
>> now it feels like a cult a little where
everyone was like I'm crying as the chicken
chicken
>> I'm feeling thing like you know But I I
felt like, oh, there were a lot of
opportunities that the school had, which
was like the plays, the the the school
did shows that you could audition for. I
didn't get into any of those. The school
had like uh improv and sketch groups. I
didn't get into any of those.
>> Oh, really? >> Really?
>> Really?
>> Dang. I bet they're regretting that.
>> Probably not. They're pro They're
probably like, "Well, another year of
doing our sketches. I'm really surprised
>> I didn't and I debris who I met didn't
either and that's when we first met was
like at the auditions for those groups
>> sometimes that's just the best motivator
>> literally I by the way I'm like I always
need whenever like something doesn't
work out for me I'm like thank God
whenever I'm like
>> projection is God's protection
>> period and also it's like whenever I'm
flopping I'm not scared it's when I'm
doing well or that I'm puppy when I'm terrified.
terrified.
>> Okay, that is the best way to say it,
Rachel, is that
>> to flop and not be scared.
>> To flop and not be scared.
>> That's a very powerful thing. It's It's
a super It's a superpower if you can do it.
it.
>> Because I the best things happen to me
right after I'm at rock bottom. Like
whenever I'm like rejected hard,
whenever like I'm like like in love with
someone who like is treating me like
garbage, that's when I fly. That's when
cuz you sort of like let go of
everything and you're like [ __ ] it. I'm
at rock bottom. I don't care. Let's go.
That's be that's a beautiful time. It's
when I'm soaring that I start I'm I'm
like I'm soaring. The ground is really
far away. I'm going to fall like and
then I get in my head and that's when Yeah.
Yeah.
>> So you are auditioning. You and I are
both not making what you want to make.
What happens then? Then I think that's
when I started being like, "Okay, I have
to find my own opportunities." And I
think that's sort of when I like started
to find my friends and my community and
doing stuff on our own. So I started
like I started doing standup. Um
>> so tell us about your first.
>> Yeah. Cuz you were on a date. Is that correct?
correct?
>> Yeah. So basically this poor guy is like
>> he's also in lay miz. He
>> was also in lay miz. No, I feel bad cuz
I'm like every it's like I still know
him. He like is um he is like a comedy
producer, whatever. Great guy. But he
basically we went on like one I I want
to call it a date, but it was like
really like we went to the dining hall
and then he like fingered me. But it was
it I'm like that was our date. But he's
a lovely person. I He's a lovely person.
That's just college, you know. I'm
>> But do you know what I mean? Yeah.
Sometimes that just happens. But so he
was like, "You should do standup. I've
been going to open mics. Do you want to
come with me to one?" And so wait, and
he was going to perform
>> and he performed. He did perform.
>> Okay. So he was like, "Do you want to
come watch me perform?"
>> He was like, "Do you want to come watch
me perform? But do you want to go?
>> Do you want to go too and try it?"
>> He He encouraged.
>> Got it. Got it. Got it.
>> Shout out. He encouraged. So we go to an
open mic and I think I did stand up
about like him fingering me like 2 days
before. So, I was I was just like I have
no experiences other than this. It's
like pretty like I'm still like a
freshman. Like I'm like
>> Can you tell us a little bit more about
what you talked about? Would you be okay
to tell us?
>> Absolutely. Okay.
>> I Well, I this part This is where I got
into something that I think I've I've
hopefully grown out of. But I I the
fingering was weird. And then my first
joke which I think he helped me write
was that it was like or maybe I think
maybe my friend my friend Moss helped me
write this part. Moss Peracone very
funny standup and writer on SNL
>> who I just got to work with recently cuz
I was just there and it was really fun
to watch.
>> He's lovely. He's so funny. So Moss and
I would do open mics together too. So I
think Moss actually helped me write this
part of the joke which was that like he
was fingering me and it was like trying
to trick a vending machine.
free joke.
>> Great joke.
>> Great joke
>> that I I think all I brought to the
story was like it kind of hurt and then
he like wrote helped me write that part.
But I did that
>> and I got like I also it's like you your
first open mic you go on stage and
you're like also I'm like 18 years old
at like a random open mic with like guys
from New Jersey and I'm like hi it's my
first open mic. So obviously like
everyone it the room was >> warm
>> warm
>> warm. The room was warm warm. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> It was toasty. So I go
>> filled with perverts.
>> Yeah. Totally.
>> Absolutely. So and at the time I'm like
I'm a genius saying a joke I didn't
write in a room full of six perverts who
are all just like maybe she'll only be
here for one week and she'll kiss one of us.
us.
>> Totally. So at the time I'm thinking
like I'm crushing. I am crushing. Um, so
I do that joke whatever and I get that
like high of performing >> totally
>> totally
>> and then like for the next like two
years of open mics I'm really bad
>> but I am like chasing that initial that
initial high of performance.
>> Yes. And when you were when you were
doing standup, like were you feeling
like there was a party that was like,
I'm going to be a stand-up, like I'm
going to be a stand-up, or did you feel
like standup was a tool or like a
stepping stone to what you wanted to do,
which was write, act, direct, all the
stuff you're doing now?
>> I think like a little bit of both. I
think in the beginning I was like, I
just want to do whatever I can get my
hands on. And like you can do an open
mic for like
>> $5. You buy like a beer or something and
you can do an open mic. So I was like,
"Okay, I can do this." And I did that. I
did like every student film
>> exercise that I could do. There is like
I had like a whole reel of like
>> some of the worst dialogue in history.
No, no hate. But it it was really like
I'm doing any I would do them like back
to back to back and I would like skip
class to do all these films. But then also
also
>> I met talented filmmakers that way. I
met my friend Emma Salman >> and
>> and
>> who who directed
>> Shiva Baby and Bottoms
>> and so I was doing that and then like I
started writing sketches. I did a sketch
together that that's sort of like one of
my early memories of us like forming a
bond because she was so funny and I was
like I I was laughing the entire sketch.
completely unusable takes for me. But I
was like cracking up at her and then
like I wrote a sketch that the these
sketches about the babysitters club that
she was in and then we performed on each
other's shows. So it was like I was
slowly like building out the community
of like friends. So it was like I met Io Moss
Moss
um my friend Katarina who's a writer
director Emma. So, it was like I felt
like I got to like build out my community.
community.
>> I mean, that's what it kind of feels
like the 20s are about. Yeah.
>> Is like figuring out who is like me. Yes.
Yes.
>> How can we help each other out? Like,
how can I form some kind of community to
get me through the next
>> x amount of years like of of trying to
do the thing that I want to do. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And and when you were in
that period in your 20s, like well I
mean you just said that you turned 30.
>> I just did.
>> What did you do for your 30th birthday?
What did how did you celebrate it?
Because I got to tell you my vision of
you is that you're partying every night.
>> I am wrong sometimes.
But okay. Okay. Let me I so many things
to say. First, I just have to say I just
do Do you know about your Saturn return?
>> Uh, not only that, but I believe that
I'm going to in just a year or two be
entering my second
>> Oh my god.
>> Because I've been doing research for
this because of your show cuz I love LA,
which we're going to talk about. And
it's all about Saturn's Return, which
you just went through.
>> I did.
>> And I believe you go through a second
one in I'm 54, but I think you start
going through a second one like 56, 57.
I have to I could look it up, but I
>> Are you Are you scared or excited?
>> I'm excited.
>> You're excited?
>> Very excited
>> cuz it does. I will say it's nice back
to the rock bottom thing when life sort
of like
>> shakes you up and you're like,
>> "Whatever, let's rock."
>> How did it shake you up?
>> Okay. I
I feel like it was like the whole thing
is like 3 years long, but there's really
like one month
>> that's like super chaotic or for me
there was like a month where that was
like really bad
>> and I felt like everything all happened
in one month. But basically like I feel
like in my early 20s I was partying
every night. I was like very messy,
chaotic. I was like crying at the bar on
the table. Like it was really crazy. >> Yep.
>> Yep.
>> Then I feel like I moved to LA and I
like I got really like a little weird
and like herdy and like kind of I don't
know. I went through this thing where I
was just not feeling good in myself.
Like the strike was happening. I was
really depressed. And I think I also
like had a lot of insecurities about like
like
myself as a writer or creator. like I
didn't think I could like
make something on my own and I was
really scared to.
>> And then I think like basically the the
big part of the Saturn return was like I
went through a breakup
>> and I
didn't know about if my show was going
to get picked up yet. But in the
meantime, I had to sort of say no to
other opportunities, which was really
hard for me, especially because I I
think I defined myself off of my work
and my value off of my work. And so I
was like, I have to say no to stuff and
like trust my gut that this is going to
happen and that I can make something on
my own. Um, and when I say on my own,
literally I made it with amazing room of
writers, amazing co-show runner,
directors, blah blah blah,
>> of course. But you know, women always
feel obliged to say that and they don't
have to.
>> But it just it was
>> but but I take it back. I [ __ ] take
it back
>> because no, you're absolutely right.
Nobody does anything alone.
>> Nobody does anything alone. But you
you're you're making a really
interesting point which is like which I
see see this in you and women that
you're coming up with which is this you
know this moment where you have to kind
of decide to take ownership of the stuff
that you want to make. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> And decide that you're ready to do it.
>> Yes. Because no one's I think like it's
also like you can't do anything until
you do it. Like it's like I directed an
episode. You just have to direct one day
and be like, "Okay." Like obviously you
prepare and you write you draw the
little pictures all the things. What?
Yeah. Write the list and you go, "I
think the shirt should be blue."
>> Well, that's the thing about directing
and and I want to talk to you about this
because you've been really I love how
you talk about directing and producing
and writing and showrunning which is,
>> you know, people act like everything is
like a secret room. Like we learned this
from Hamilton like that. Like there's a
room where it happens and only certain
people are allowed in it and there's a
language and a vocabulary and only one
way to do something and it keeps people
out of the room.
>> Yes. Totally. And then you get in the
room and it's like three guys being like
>> I think it we should shoot it really slow.
slow.
>> I think we should do it really fast. And
you're like this is all this is what
they're saying.
>> This is what they're saying in here. >> Totally.
>> Totally.
>> You're kidding me. And they have snacks.
They're ordering like three rounds of
coffees to say I think we should shoot a
slower fat. I got pissed actually
honestly the first time I got in there.
>> It's incredible once you get inside the room
room
>> and then you get a high and then you're
like I'm staying in here and I'm
ordering 10 coffees and I WE'RE SHOOTING
IT FAST AND then slow. It's
>> So you're going through your Saturn's return.
return.
>> You come out the other side and you
greet 30. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Do you party on your 30th birthday?
>> I do party on my 30th.
>> I do. Sorry. you I do party.
>> Well, what does that look like?
>> I went to Sicying
>> for my friend's wedding.
>> Okay, great.
>> And I really partied there and then I
stayed there for the week.
>> Perfect. This is what I expected,
Rachel. I'm happy to hear this.
>> And I really I really went off. It was
great. It was fabulous. And it was good.
It was good because I feel like I've
been working for so long. Like I went
into the hole of making the show and now
I'm out every night. I'll tell you that
I am. I'm going to a concert tonight if
you want to come.
>> Where are you going?
>> I'm going Okay. I'm going to see Do you
know that girl Adella? >> No.
>> No.
>> I wish I did.
>> She You You're Jenna.
>> I'm like that song Sex on the Beat. You
got to get on to that.
>> Oh my god. I'm so old. Adella, >> we'll
>> we'll you
you
and I'm I can't wait. And then I'm going
to I just basically I This is the other
thing. Tell me if you do this. when
>> she's a Slovakian singer songwriter. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Very cool.
>> She's very cool. >> Cool.
>> Cool.
>> Um but she So I'm going to that tonight.
But I I do this thing when I'm like
shooting something where it's like you
put off every single person in your
life. Classic.
>> You you make promises you can't keep.
>> Which is like you're like, "Yeah, I when
this is over,
I am going to be I am going to be out. I
am going to be just going to the club
and then dinner and then we should go on
a hike the next morning really early.
Like I make so many promises and then
it's like you you you get into a debt, a
social debt, but it's actually kind of
fabulous cuz then you just commit to a
period where you're like
>> you're in that period right now. So
tonight is is it dinner first? I love
talking to people about plans because
>> I love
>> I don't want to do them but I want to
hear your plans.
>> I want to know
>> Yeah. I want to know what you're doing tonight.
tonight.
>> Okay, so the plan is we're doing a group dinner.
dinner.
>> Amazing. Where?
>> At my boyfriend's house. We're ordering food.
food. >> Fun.
>> Fun.
>> So, we have a small group going.
>> We're pregaming.
>> What time is this?
>> This is probably 8:00.
8:00.
>> [ __ ] That's dinner.
>> I know. I like an early dinner, too. But
it's more It's sort of like, you know,
if we do dinner too early, then we're
going to get sleepy before the show,
>> right? So I we got to sort of what I'm
thinking instead is like when when it
should be dinner that's when I'll be
taking a nap. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> And then but of course I'll be sleeping
with my glam on cuz I want to keep it
for the show. So I'll be sleeping like this
this
>> like a soap opera star.
>> Like a sober star. Glam on
>> like this getting lipstick on the pillow
and then I'll jerk awake. >> 7:45
>> 7:45 >> Listerine,
>> Listerine,
you know, swishing around. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Bam. Dinner. People start arriving. Dinner.
Dinner.
>> Order in.
>> Order in.
>> No cooking.
>> That No cooking. We're No cooking for
that many people. Six. That's crazy.
>> Cooking for six people.
>> That's outrageous.
>> What are you? Some kind of machine to
cook for six people? No way.
>> I only know how to make sweet potatoes
and ground turkey. And then we're going
to be burping garlic all over the art
hose at the concert. We can't I can't do
that. No. >> So
>> So
>> then you eat. Then we eat. And it's
like, you know, drinking a little, maybe
I'm trying on outfits, maybe I'm leaving
dinner, coming back, presenting an
outfit to the group.
>> It's fun. >> Yeah.
>> Okay. Do you do that?
>> No, I don't. But I I in general have a
weird relationship to outfits >> really
>> really
>> that I like I and I love and I'm very
very intrigued by your relationship to
outfits cuz for me outfits like I don't
have the feeling like
>> I I'll use my friend my good friend Maya
Rudolph as an example. When Maya Rudolph
gets dressed and she gets to change she
would love to do that what you're doing
like come in and out of the room with
different outfits be like look at my
outfit look at my outfit. That to me
feels so stressful.
>> Do you know what you should do it? Do
you like to smoke weed?
>> I don't really smoke it anymore, but I will.
will.
>> Okay, for this or it could be glass of
wine or it could be a little CBD joint
or whatever.
>> So, I'd rather weed over wine.
>> Okay. Yeah.
>> Let's do a Let's do a like a gummy.
>> Let's do a gummy.
>> Okay. All right.
>> You knock back a gummy. >> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> Now, you could I kind of think it's good
to do this like on your own
>> cuz then you and like maybe
>> by myself.
>> Yes. start by yourself because then
you're not, you know, you're not doing
it for anyone or
>> you better believe I'll curb.
>> I'm in my social chapter. I'm free. So,
>> I'm already worried that you're
overbooking yourself. Don't promise that.
that. >> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> But I'm just saying. >> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> It I would say do it in like the
daytime. Gummy iced coffee so that
you're kind of your body's fighting itself.
>> Okay. Okay, I'm in my apartment. It's
blazing sun. Gummy an ice coffee. 2:00
in the afternoon.
I just cancel all my plans. And what do
I do next? I go to my closet. Go to play
an elevator. Getting really high from
the coffee and then getting really down
from the gummies.
Then then what do I do? Then what do I do?
do? >> Music.
>> Music.
>> Okay. Music. What do I play? What do I
play? I think is like something really
like ethereal fun. Okay. Like like you
know you make me feel like dancing. Okay.
Okay.
>> I'm just telling you about a Saturday
that I had like a week ago.
>> Okay. Perfect.
>> And then and then you just start trying
[ __ ] on.
>> Okay. and you throw stuff on the floor
and you take pictures with stuff and
it's like and maybe like halfway through
you stop you order some food and it's
like and by the way you're not picking
up any of the clothes till the next day
when you're not high in the gummy
>> anymore. This is going to be really hard
for me. >> Okay,
>> Okay,
>> but that's okay. But that's okay.
>> It's part of it is it's just like
there's no like there's no I'm cleaning.
There's no I'm organizing. You're
playing. You're trying stuff on. You're
and you and you should also have a
mirror with really good light. This is
why I'm saying the daytime cuz in my
house I have a mirror that only looks
good at a certain time. So you can take
this and you know it for like your your
vibe, you know, like but this is this is
just for
>> this is actually really helpful because
it is about like what you're talking
about is about play like not just not
making everything so serious.
>> Not making everything so serious. And
it's like you can you can take pictures
of stuff or lots of times I'll do videos
of me like walking and then walking to
the camera and back and then I text them
all to my sisters and I go like heart
which ones you like.
>> Okay. This feels like a very sister thing.
thing. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Like what sisters do for each other?
other?
>> Yes. And then you can get feedback and
then they can be like drop the vest,
keep the scarf, >> right?
>> right?
>> You know,
>> and do you take that feedback? Do you go >> depends
>> depends >> depends
>> depends
>> depends because it's like sometimes I'm
like you don't know this is a really
good outfit and then and sometimes you
by the way sometimes you'll try on an
outfit that you created that day
>> that this is that's inventing outfits.
>> This feels like level two.
>> I feel like I'm at level two right now.
I just need to start
by taking the gummy during the day.
>> Just start by taking the gum just start
by getting high in the morning and then
work your way up.
Okay. You and your sisters. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Make me think about the women that you
have like kind of like your chosen
sisters. Like you said, I owe. And
another chosen sister is Molly.
>> Yes. Love Molly.
>> Molly Gordon who we spoke to before this interview.
interview.
>> Love. I love her. I just talked to her
last night. you. She said you guys talk
every day. She called you her wife.
>> Wife, sister. We're like we're it's
which is weird, but we like five
different things.
>> For people who like are getting because
I think like there's a lot of people who
are getting to know your work, Molly's
work, IO's work, like you are this
rising class, I think, of really really
talented artists and filmmakers and
showrunners and writers and and actors.
But Shiva Baby was a a film that you and
Molly did together that was this teeny
tiny film that really like exploded and
took off. Can you talk a little bit
about the path of that?
>> Yes. So that was a crazy experience and
it's crazier now looking back at it. Um
because so it was first a short film
that Emma Seligman wrote and directed
that I was in and it got into Southby
and after it got into Southby, Emma was
like I I still remember it was like Emma
and I like met up at a dig in um for a
dig in.
>> What's a dig in?
>> Oh my god.
>> At a dig in.
>> A dig in. It's a fast casual lunch
place. It's like a
>> Oh, a dig in is a restaurant. It's sort
It's like a sweet green. It's like a
sister of a sweet green.
>> Uh sweet green was brought up earlier
because Molly was like, "That's a nice
place to go to the bathroom. They're
usually nice at Sweet Green."
>> They They'll let you.
>> So, dig in. Is that an LA thing?
>> No, it's a New York thing.
>> My god, I don't know it. Okay, good to know.
know.
>> I think they have them here, too. But
there was really a chapter where it was
big. Okay.
>> In New York when we were in college. So,
we meet at a digin. We're catching up.
And Emma is like, I'm going to make
Shiva Baby into a feature. And we were
also that's also the same day that we
came up with the loose idea for Bottoms
and we started writing it. >> Wow.
>> Wow.
>> So we're writing Bottoms while Emma's
also writing Shiva Baby. And like
basically it was like
>> this like slow process of building the
movie out and it's like no one wants to
make a first time filmmakers movie. It's
like so impossible to get people behind
you. Um and it was sort of like this
this game of like we're trying to cast
the movie. we don't have the money for
the movie. Um, I wanted to shout out
Rian Jones who was one of the producers
who was like the first person to like be
like, I'm giving you guys money to make
this movie and and gave like a big uh
chunk of money. It was like a super
indie movie. I think the budget was
around like 200k, but it's like that's
really hard to raise that money when you
are college students and all you have is
a short film tour. So, it's like I
remember like talking with Emma and
we're like trying to cast the movie
without the money, get the locations,
but get the funding at the same time.
So, it was all of that. And when Molly
signed on to do it, it felt like, oh my
god, like she's legit. because we had
seen both seen her in Books Smart and
been like she is so funny, >> right?
>> right?
>> So funny. And like she's a real actress.
>> I mean I that's exactly what she was
talking about. Like she said when you
guys met you were like you're a real
actress and she help us. Yeah. But but
it I relate because when you come
through the door of like comedy
>> Yeah. You often feel like that's that
just kind of like you just you've always
that's the door you've always come through.
through. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> And it takes a minute to figure out that
you know everyone is talented at a lot
of things. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Um so were you feeling then insecure
about your acting or anything or
>> Definitely you were. I was because I had
never been I was all of a sudden the
lead of a film
>> that wasn't fully funded yet and didn't
have a location. Like it was so like it
was like I think we got the rest of our
funding like a day before we shot the movie.
movie.
>> And basically we go to film the first
scene and it's me and Molly and I clam
up and I just whisper.
>> Oh, you whisper.
>> I whispered, >> right?
>> right?
cuz you know sometimes when we're really
nervous we get like very sleepy and
tired and quiet.
>> It's really and I'm like no one can tell
if I'm doing a bad job if they can't
hear me or see me. So it's like the
first thing we film is that scene where
we like run into each other. where we
talk for the first time at the Shiva and
I'm like it's good to see you and it's
like Emma's like cut and so then Emma
like pulls me aside because they're an
amazing friend and director and they're
like so
we can't hear anything
we can't hear a word that you're saying
and I'm like totally did this in private
thank god and was and did it really
nicely but was like I think just like
maybe have a little more um voice And I
was like, "Totally, we go again." And
I'm like, "So good to see you." And I it
was I was I was like sweating.
>> This is so interesting because we
started talking about like little Rachel
on stage being loud and then you have
this moment you're like, "Okay, now I'm
a real actor and now I'm going to get
very quiet.
>> I'm going to do I'm actually going to do
the It's like I'm not going to pitch my
fast ball. I'm going to do the opposite
of what I do." Well,
>> I'm going to drop it. I'm gonna drop the
ball on the floor and go I I like the
mound. Let's We'll keep the baseball.
>> Your dad and the Red Sox would want to
know that you can extend that baseball
metaphor. So it would be
>> on the mound.
>> On the mound on the mound or sports.
>> Yeah. So um so you're But that's so
interesting. So then and then what happens?
happens?
>> And then I think Molly basically was like
like
>> Molly can do she like charmed the pants
off of me basically and was like she
just started improving and talking to me
and talking before we were rolling
>> and I didn't feel like I was in a scene
anymore. I felt like I was like talking
to her and flirting with her but feeling
like and it just as I it clicked for me
and like between Molly and Emma. Emma
coming and then it was like we got into
a group and then Emma came over and was
like whispering stuff in my ear of like
really like make her work for it on this
one or like like give in on this one,
giggle on this one and
>> let's move the camera slower on this one.
one.
>> Let's camera slower on this one. Fast.
Really fast. And then Molly was like
improving and like I just felt like basically
basically
they just but I just felt like so like
brought into the space and then I felt
like I know how to do this. But it was
like I think I I just I just watched
both of them like
>> shine and like bring me into their like
like artistry is like a big word, but I
kind of felt like they both were like,
"Come here. You you can do this." And
like I just it just Anyways, it really
like opened everything up for me and it
was really special.
>> Very cool. Yes.
>> Now Molly had a question for you.
>> Okay. And
um the first one was uh please have um
Rachel tell the fingering story which
you already told naturally.
>> I did it on my own. Wow. Huge.
>> Incredible. Um so thank you for that.
And then this and and she said basically
said, you know, when she met you that
what she was so drawn to and what I feel
drawn to you right now, I'm feeling the
same thing, which is your like the great
audacity of here's what I want to do. I
want to do this. I want to do this. Like
like ambition, not being afraid of it,
like feeling like you want to take up a
lot of space. and she said that
confidence like has that all has have
you always had that? The question is
like where did you where do you think
that came from?
>> It's interesting because I I look back
at myself at that time and I think I was
like I was very insecure and anxious but
at the same time I did always have this
feeling of like I have to do this
>> and I think I think that's from my
family for sure. Like I think it's like
I there was like this thing of like okay
if you're going to do it then do it. And
I think like in my mind I was like I
can't even entertain the possibility of
not doing this because I don't
>> have any other plan. I don't
>> there's never a job you would want to do
instead of this. Did you ever think
about like another major or another job
other than insurance sales?
Yeah. I think now that I'm here, I'm
like, I would love to do marketing. I
love marketing.
>> Wait, what do you mean?
>> I just love marketing. I just started
getting on marketing calls and I'm like,
>> these girls are fabulous. They're just
so I'm just like I love I love marketing.
marketing.
>> You like you like figuring out how to
get the message out. Yes. You're very
good at marketing. You're very good at
Tik Tok. You're very good at Twitter.
>> And you better believe I have I have
sounds saved for us.
>> For our Tik Tok.
>> Yeah. if you're down. Um, I have a
question, a Tik Tok question for you.
How do you get your Tik Toks to move so
fast? You make it slow. I'll show you.
Wait, do you have you ever do slow-mo so
then it speeds it up? >> No,
>> No,
>> we'll do that today.
>> You shoot it in slow-mo.
>> You shoot it. Yes. So, it shoot It
shoots in So, the
>> Are we talking about a cap cut
situation? No. Fantastic.
>> I won't I won't do that to you. I I will
not do that to you. Someone's laughing.
>> I Claire Claire is laughing because I
had her help me with doing a what I've
always wanted to do, which is green
screen. Basically, I'm talking in front
of a picture.
>> That's what I want to do and I don't
know HOW TO DO IT.
>> LEARNED. I CAN SHOW YOU. I CAN SHOW YOU
TODAY. I can show you. I just found out
how Claire taught me and now I can teach you.
you.
>> Okay, we might we might have to do that
is talk about ourselves in front of a picture.
picture.
>> In front of a picture. We can even take
It's so fun.
>> It's so Why is it fun? Cuz I think it's
fun, too. Why do you think it's fun?
>> I feel like I'm playing with clay and
dough. Like I feel like I'm like
play-doh. I feel like I'm doing crafts.
And then afterwards, you get to watch it
over and over and go, I made that. I did
that just now. It's so fun.
>> It is so fun.
>> And the noises and the colors. It's just
the best.
>> But it makes sense to me because you
definitely have this sense of knowing
how to exist in that space. And it kind
of comes back to you just like being
authentically yourself, which is just
hard to teach. You, you know,
>> you just got to rock it. I guess
>> you got you do.
>> But sometimes things happen. I don't
know if you've had this where it's like
you you're like, "Okay, I'm being
authentically myself. I'm being
authentically myself." And then
you either, these are two things that
have happened to me. You're either being
authentically yourself and everyone's
like, we hate it. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> And you're like, I should be someone
else. I should be someone else. Or
>> you're kind of being a version of
yourself and everyone's like, we love
it, [ __ ] And then you change a little.
I'm never going to stop being a [ __ ]
but sorry, something else. Sure. You
know, you're like, I'm messy. I'm this.
Whatever. And then you go into a
different zone and then you're like, but
they still like that. I should keep
doing that. Yes. But in reality, you're changing.
changing.
>> You are the generation that has grown
up. Like, when did you get your first phone?
phone?
>> When I was in middle school.
>> Yeah. And you've had a lifetime of being online.
online.
>> We talked about this a lot when we were
creating the show. I think there's like
a lot of times people like look at like
I'm going to say my generation, I'm I'm
like the millennial cusp. So, I'm not
I'm not claiming I'm not claim
millennial. I claim a millennial cuz I
feel real like I feel a bit of both. Do
you know what I mean? When we start
getting into Skippy Toilet, I get lost. >> Sure.
>> Sure.
>> You know what I mean? I'm like, what's
going on? I didn't do kindergarten on
Zoom. So, I you know what I mean? Like I
have I I didn't have what is this
called? Um when your brain fully develops.
develops.
>> Oh, um your frontal lobe.
>> My frontal lobe. I think my frontal lobe
developed like what time does that
happen? Halfway through co
>> weird time to have your frontal lobe
closed during co
>> during co but I felt it
>> snatched. You were like snatched
>> snatched. Yes. Yeah. And and and so I I
didn't have to go through like formative
development developmental years during
co or whatever. Like I think there's
something to do with that that I don't
have. Um, but the the we were just
talking about 67. I found out I'm in
group seven from Tik Tok.
>> I found out I was in group seven.
>> Group seven.
>> What does that mean?
>> I don't know. And so if I was fully
Jenzie, I would. Claire, explain it to
me cuz she is cuz she's 25.
>> Okay. Claire will explain and she'll
show us how to do the green screen.
>> How to do the green screen.
>> Okay. Let's talk about LA.
>> I'm sorry I'm talking so I could just
same. and and and you have a great cast
and you shoot it in LA and do you love LA?
LA?
>> I do love LA.
>> Okay. What can you help me? Because I'm
actually genuinely it's I'm coming up on
like year 15 or 16 of being here and I
go back and forth between LA and New
York and I'm not loving LA right now. LA
is crushing me a little bit. Okay. I
think I want to go back to the East
Coast. Like I really, you know, my kids
are almost out of school. So, I'm like
feeling this giant pull and I'm trying
to stay with LA because LA has been very
good to me. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> And it's there's a lot about it. I love
California. There's a lot about Los
Angeles. I have a lot of friends here.
I've had great memories here. I've made
a lot of stuff I'm really proud of here.
But I'm just like, what do you love
about LA? And can you help me love it, too?
too?
>> Yes. I like LA most in the winter.
>> I do, too. It's my favorite. January to
April is heaven
>> cuz everywhere else is freezing.
Everyone else Everywhere else is
freezing. Meanwhile, we're going to the
beach in an Ugg and a hoodie. Beach in
an Ugg and a hoodie. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> And you're getting
this. You maybe Okay. Morning. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> It's a Saturday. >> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> Again, weed gummy coffee. Sorry.
>> You don't have to. You could do
something else. Who's driving?
Somebody's boyfriend. Somebody's boyfriend.
boyfriend.
>> Somebody's boyfriend is driving. Not us.
Or you're getting an Uber.
>> But ideally, it's like someone's
boyfriend is driving. Like the boyfriend
of the friend group. He's He's get He's
driving everywhere. >> Great. I like this. Yeah.
>> Great. I like this. Yeah. >> And you've got a playlist. You guys
>> And you've got a playlist. You guys stop. You got bagels.
stop. You got bagels. >> Okay. Not good bagels though in LA.
>> Okay. Not good bagels though in LA. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. Okay. >> Go to Courage.
>> Go to Courage. >> Okay. Great.
>> Okay. Great. >> You go to Courage or there's a place in
>> You go to Courage or there's a place in Burbank called Hanks. Underrated. I'm
Burbank called Hanks. Underrated. I'm actually giving away my spot, but I know
actually giving away my spot, but I know you [ __ ] aren't going to Burbank, so
you [ __ ] aren't going to Burbank, so it's fine. Um, it's okay.
it's fine. Um, it's okay. >> I work there, so I'm going. But
>> I work there, so I'm going. But >> you worked at Hanks?
>> you worked at Hanks? >> I work No, I work at the lot.
>> I work No, I work at the lot. >> Oh, you work at the right nearby. I was
>> Oh, you work at the right nearby. I was like, "Oh my god, you also work at
like, "Oh my god, you also work at Hanks." Okay, I work
Hanks." Okay, I work >> I have two jobs. I have three.
>> I have two jobs. I have three. >> So, you get your bagel.
>> So, you get your bagel. >> So, you get your bagel and now you're
>> So, you get your bagel and now you're eating your bagels in the car or you
eating your bagels in the car or you save them. You get to the beach. You run
save them. You get to the beach. You run on the sand. You're just sitting on the
on the sand. You're just sitting on the sand in like jeans and an Ugg and a
sand in like jeans and an Ugg and a sweater.
sweater. >> Yeah. I love I love the beach in a
>> Yeah. I love I love the beach in a sweater.
sweater. >> Beach in a sweater. It's completely
>> Beach in a sweater. It's completely empty cuz no one else has this good of
empty cuz no one else has this good of an idea except for us. And And you're
an idea except for us. And And you're just like vibe. you're having a beach
just like vibe. you're having a beach day, but you're having a winter beach
day, but you're having a winter beach day and you can make it into a thing
day and you can make it into a thing like you could then then you could go
like you could then then you could go like up to Tanga Canyon and you could
like up to Tanga Canyon and you could buy a set of tarot cards for your friend
buy a set of tarot cards for your friend and go on a hike over there. There's
and go on a hike over there. There's like some really nice hikes in Malibu.
like some really nice hikes in Malibu. There's like a you could go to the pier.
There's like a you could go to the pier. You could get like um seafood at Broad
You could get like um seafood at Broad Street Oyster Company, but like you make
Street Oyster Company, but like you make a day in the winter that you couldn't do
a day in the winter that you couldn't do somewhere else.
somewhere else. >> I completely agree. You know what I I
>> I completely agree. You know what I I think Los Angeles, California in the
think Los Angeles, California in the winter is where it really shines.
winter is where it really shines. >> Is really where it shines.
>> Is really where it shines. >> The rest of the year is tough for me.
>> The rest of the year is tough for me. >> So, what if what if you stuck around? We
>> So, what if what if you stuck around? We do like beach day in the day weed gummy
do like beach day in the day weed gummy closet.
closet. >> Yeah. And it's like, by the way, we're
>> Yeah. And it's like, by the way, we're in bed at 7:00.
in bed at 7:00. >> I don't believe you.
>> I don't believe you. >> We will be if we're starting a day with
>> We will be if we're starting a day with a weed gummy
a weed gummy plans tonight. I know, but that's cuz
plans tonight. I know, but that's cuz I'm in a social chapter.
I'm in a social chapter. >> But in January and February, in January
>> But in January and February, in January in a social chapter, we're hibernating,
in a social chapter, we're hibernating, but we're hibernating with our friends.
but we're hibernating with our friends. >> Okay. Okay.
>> Okay. Okay. >> And our community, we're we're
>> And our community, we're we're hibernating with like six people.
hibernating with like six people. >> I I
>> I I >> Or three if that feels better.
>> Or three if that feels better. >> That actually really did make me like
>> That actually really did make me like Los Angeles more. What you just said,
Los Angeles more. What you just said, >> this is the thing. New York. Bam. You're
>> this is the thing. New York. Bam. You're confronted with a new chapter or an
confronted with a new chapter or an event or whatever and it's it's thrown
event or whatever and it's it's thrown in your face and it's fabulous and it's
in your face and it's fabulous and it's going like wake up. You just met this
going like wake up. You just met this person on the street.
person on the street. >> LA, you have to do it a little for
>> LA, you have to do it a little for yourself, but you get to sit down in
yourself, but you get to sit down in your room one day delusional. Me this
comeback? >> They are. They are. But we have to stop.
>> They are. They are. But we have to stop. But they are.
But they are. >> They are.
>> They are. >> And they're good. But also, who can
>> And they're good. But also, who can blame us? Look at what is happening.
blame us? Look at what is happening. >> I know.
>> I know. >> I know. And they were they were feeding
>> I know. And they were they were feeding they were feeding people the vapes at
they were feeding people the vapes at 12.
12. >> I know. The vapes hopefully are taking a
>> I know. The vapes hopefully are taking a break, but cigarettes are back.
break, but cigarettes are back. >> Well, the the cigarettes are people
>> Well, the the cigarettes are people trying to wean off the vape.
trying to wean off the vape. >> Oh, that's so brutal. That's like heroin
>> Oh, that's so brutal. That's like heroin to not take your oxy
to not take your oxy >> heroin to to pill to heroin pills.
>> heroin to to pill to heroin pills. >> It's hard out there. Okay. Album you're
>> It's hard out there. Okay. Album you're listening to right now?
listening to right now? >> I've been listening a lot to the Addison
>> I've been listening a lot to the Addison album.
album. >> It's an album that makes me feel very
>> It's an album that makes me feel very like
like >> free. It makes me feel like my mom's
>> free. It makes me feel like my mom's friend who always wore yoga pants who
friend who always wore yoga pants who was like really chic.
was like really chic. >> Mhm. and sexy and like sexy kind of a
>> Mhm. and sexy and like sexy kind of a little sleepy and in a dream
little sleepy and in a dream >> and so free. I was like, "Yeah, yeah,
>> and so free. I was like, "Yeah, yeah, >> Addison feels very like free to me."
>> Addison feels very like free to me." >> Um, is there a person's career path that
>> Um, is there a person's career path that you look at and admire?
you look at and admire? >> Definitely. I'm not being a suckup.
Can't you can't see. >> I'm not allowed. You're sitting right in
>> I'm not allowed. You're sitting right in front of me. What if I was like, I need
front of me. What if I was like, I need AN IDEA. BAM.
AN IDEA. BAM. WHAT IF BEFORE THIS podcast someone
WHAT IF BEFORE THIS podcast someone pulled you aside and said like when Amy
pulled you aside and said like when Amy asks that you you have to say her. She
asks that you you have to say her. She gets really upset.
gets really upset. >> She gets really upset.
>> She gets really upset. >> That would be crazy if they said that.
>> That would be crazy if they said that. No, I I just I do want to say like Okay,
No, I I just I do want to say like Okay, so I'm sorry. I'll just say it and then
so I'm sorry. I'll just say it and then we can cut it and genuinely and then
we can cut it and genuinely and then I'll say someone else. Okay. But I I do
I'll say someone else. Okay. But I I do really want to say like genuinely like
really want to say like genuinely like you have made a difference in my life
you have made a difference in my life going to pursue comedy and going to to
going to pursue comedy and going to to like be funny and be loud and be bold
like be funny and be loud and be bold like and also be kind. Like I feel like
like and also be kind. Like I feel like when I read your book, I was like there
when I read your book, I was like there was
was the ability to be like
the ability to be like both like bold and loud but also like
both like bold and loud but also like vulnerable and sensitive.
vulnerable and sensitive. >> I think is some that like sometimes it
>> I think is some that like sometimes it feels like you're not allowed to have
feels like you're not allowed to have both.
both. >> And I I I feel like you need both and
>> And I I I feel like you need both and you should be able to. And that's
you should be able to. And that's something that I get from you or like am
something that I get from you or like am inspired by from you and like I think
inspired by from you and like I think like the women you your community like
like the women you your community like Maya Rudolph, Tina Fay, all of them.
Maya Rudolph, Tina Fay, all of them. >> Thank you, Rachel. That's really nice.
>> Thank you, Rachel. That's really nice. >> So that's true. But now do you want me
>> So that's true. But now do you want me to say someone else? Okay. Um uh
to say someone else? Okay. Um uh um
um I Britney Murphy is an actress that I
I Britney Murphy is an actress that I really look up to. I think she's an
really look up to. I think she's an incredible actress. Um or was it an
incredible actress. Um or was it an incredible actress? She's just someone
incredible actress? She's just someone who like I saw her
who like I saw her >> in like immediately like when I saw her
>> in like immediately like when I saw her in Clueless I was like she just has
in Clueless I was like she just has something special and she's very she was
something special and she's very she was very true to herself. She was, you know,
very true to herself. She was, you know, I she hosted SNL my first season there
I she hosted SNL my first season there and she I remember her being like really
and she I remember her being like really kind,
kind, really super hardworking, very open to
really super hardworking, very open to ideas and you're right, she had like a
ideas and you're right, she had like a sparkly interesting quality about her
sparkly interesting quality about her and she could do a lot of things really
and she could do a lot of things really well.
well. >> Yes. Like I feel like had so much range
>> Yes. Like I feel like had so much range and like
and like >> I don't know. I felt
>> I don't know. I felt like there's certain people where it's
like there's certain people where it's like it's like the character wouldn't be
like it's like the character wouldn't be the character if it wasn't you playing
the character if it wasn't you playing it and I feel like she has that
it and I feel like she has that >> which is really special.
>> which is really special. >> When was the last time you cried?
>> When was the last time you cried? >> Um
>> Um yesterday because I this is the other
yesterday because I this is the other thing. So I didn't cry for a speed round
thing. So I didn't cry for a speed round but I'll say it really fast.
but I'll say it really fast. >> That's okay. You I like speed rounds to
>> That's okay. You I like speed rounds to go slow.
go slow. >> To go slow.
I didn't cry for like a long time because I was so like stressed about the
because I was so like stressed about the job and I was trying to take it
job and I was trying to take it seriously and be locked in and I was
seriously and be locked in and I was like there's no time to cry. There's no
like there's no time to cry. There's no time to cry. And then I think now that
time to cry. And then I think now that I'm in my social era and I have like a
I'm in my social era and I have like a little space to breathe like the lid is
little space to breathe like the lid is coming off
coming off >> so I'm just crying more freely.
>> so I'm just crying more freely. >> Yesterday I sort of had a little bit of
>> Yesterday I sort of had a little bit of a manic episode. This goes back to the
a manic episode. This goes back to the closet thing where I remembered a shirt
closet thing where I remembered a shirt from 3 years ago
from 3 years ago that I haven't I just was like, "Wait a
that I haven't I just was like, "Wait a second.
second. >> Where is it?
>> Where is it? >> Where is that?" And then I started like
>> Where is that?" And then I started like rumaging through my closet. Not in a fun
rumaging through my closet. Not in a fun way. Node weed gummy. Just like
way. Node weed gummy. Just like panicked.
panicked. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Panicked. Texting people pictures of the
>> Panicked. Texting people pictures of the shirt being like, "Have you seen this?"
shirt being like, "Have you seen this?" Texting my mom being like, "Is this at
Texting my mom being like, "Is this at home?" She's like, "What?" Like that.
home?" She's like, "What?" Like that. >> What do you think the shirt meant? What
>> What do you think the shirt meant? What was it? When you thought of the shirt,
was it? When you thought of the shirt, where did you where had you worn it?
where did you where had you worn it? What did it mean to you? What did it
What did it mean to you? What did it represent?
represent? >> I think it was that I've been living in
>> I think it was that I've been living in my place for too long and I used to live
my place for too long and I used to live there with my ex-boyfriend and I live
there with my ex-boyfriend and I live moved around to Airbnbs before I lived
moved around to Airbnbs before I lived in that place and all of a sudden I was
in that place and all of a sudden I was just like where's all my stuff and who
just like where's all my stuff and who am I and then I started to cry.
am I and then I started to cry. >> Yes. I think that material I think that
>> Yes. I think that material I think that objects can do that.
objects can do that. >> Yes. And then the last question is, what
>> Yes. And then the last question is, what are you listening to, watching? What do
are you listening to, watching? What do you do when you want to laugh? What do
you do when you want to laugh? What do what kind of stuff do you do when you
what kind of stuff do you do when you like need a break? Like when you want to
like need a break? Like when you want to get out of your head and just feel good
get out of your head and just feel good >> and feel good. I have a couple friends
>> and feel good. I have a couple friends and my sisters where it's like we send
and my sisters where it's like we send each other like Tik Toks that are like
each other like Tik Toks that are like really weird and then like I catch up on
really weird and then like I catch up on all the Tik Toks that like my friends or
all the Tik Toks that like my friends or my sister sent me and I like feel like
my sister sent me and I like feel like I'm watching like their show kind of the
I'm watching like their show kind of the fee that they've curated for me and then
fee that they've curated for me and then I reply to all of them like haha this is
I reply to all of them like haha this is us when we're in the car with mom. This
us when we're in the car with mom. This was us when we would go on a walk drink
was us when we would go on a walk drink whatever and that feels that's fun and
whatever and that feels that's fun and silly for me. It's funny. It's like we
silly for me. It's funny. It's like we do this at our work at at our office at
do this at our work at at our office at Paperkite. We like show each other our
Paperkite. We like show each other our feeds to see what where everyone's heads
feeds to see what where everyone's heads are at.
are at. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And you know, sometimes my kids will be
>> And you know, sometimes my kids will be like, "Mom, your feed is really sad."
like, "Mom, your feed is really sad." You know, like I'm like, "You're right.
You know, like I'm like, "You're right. It's too sad."
It's too sad." >> Like, but by the way, sometimes that's
>> Like, but by the way, sometimes that's good because then you can go, "I'm in a
good because then you can go, "I'm in a sad period right now."
sad period right now." >> Totally. I'm not in my social chapter.
>> Totally. I'm not in my social chapter. >> I'm not in my social chapter.
>> I'm not in my social chapter. >> So, like, what is it? What is I'm just
>> So, like, what is it? What is I'm just as we finish, can you remember any Tik
as we finish, can you remember any Tik Tok that you enjoy that is funny?
Tok that you enjoy that is funny? >> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Oh my god. Amazing. You want to show it
>> Oh my god. Amazing. You want to show it to me?
to me? >> I would love to. Let me Let me go
>> I would love to. Let me Let me go through.
through. >> I don't even know how to get Tik Tok on
>> I don't even know how to get Tik Tok on my laptop.
my laptop. >> I was going to show you on my phone.
>> I was going to show you on my phone. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Here we go. What are
>> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Here we go. What are we watching?
we watching? >> I'm just going through I mean, let's
>> I'm just going through I mean, let's look.
look. >> Okay. So, how would you
>> Okay. So, how would you >> How would you describe? Okay. This is
>> How would you describe? Okay. This is incredible. Yes, this is incredible.
incredible. Yes, this is incredible. This is a video of um it says,
This is a video of um it says, "Congratulations. It's a girl." And then
"Congratulations. It's a girl." And then it says the girl and the girl's walking
it says the girl and the girl's walking around wearing a giant pig head holding
around wearing a giant pig head holding a baseball bat
a baseball bat >> to a creepy little song
>> to a creepy little song >> to a creepy song. And she looks awesome.
>> to a creepy song. And she looks awesome. >> She This diva is I'm like she knows who
>> She This diva is I'm like she knows who she is already.
she is already. >> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> That's very good. That's very very
>> That's very good. That's very very funny. Okay. And then we've got
funny. Okay. And then we've got >> priest DJ.
>> priest DJ. >> A priest DJ.
You just feel like he has a hobby and a passion. Like, do you know what I mean?
passion. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, I'm like, he's having fun.
Like, I'm like, he's having fun. >> He is having fun. Yeah. All right, Ra,
>> He is having fun. Yeah. All right, Ra, I'm going to have you sit back in your
I'm going to have you sit back in your chair so we I can properly say thank you
chair so we I can properly say thank you >> for coming and doing this.
>> for coming and doing this. >> Thank you so much for having me. This
>> Thank you so much for having me. This was a damn delight.
was a damn delight. >> This
>> This Thank you so much, Rachel Senate. That
Thank you so much, Rachel Senate. That was so fun. you are a delight and so
was so fun. you are a delight and so funny and charming and I could have
funny and charming and I could have talked to you all day and um you know
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finish up this episode. We talked a lot today about Saturn's return. And if you
today about Saturn's return. And if you don't know what that is, it's basically
don't know what that is, it's basically this period in astrology that occurs um
this period in astrology that occurs um around the ages of like 20, late 20s,
around the ages of like 20, late 20s, late 50s, and late 80s. And it's when uh
late 50s, and late 80s. And it's when uh the planet Saturn returns returns to the
the planet Saturn returns returns to the same position that it was in when you
same position that it was in when you were born. So, we all went through it or
were born. So, we all went through it or some of us went through it or are going
some of us went through it or are going to go through it in our 20s. I'm just
to go through it in our 20s. I'm just here to say I'm looking forward to the
here to say I'm looking forward to the next return for me, the next change. Um,
next return for me, the next change. Um, I don't know what's around the corner.
I don't know what's around the corner. If life has taught me anything, it's
If life has taught me anything, it's that I cannot predict what is going to
that I cannot predict what is going to happen. But I look forward to the first
happen. But I look forward to the first human robot
human robot marriage on TV
marriage on TV and um
and um that we will be we will have run out of
that we will be we will have run out of water and
water and we'll be drinking other things during
we'll be drinking other things during that return. So, um, uh, but if anyone's
that return. So, um, uh, but if anyone's going through Saturn's return right now
going through Saturn's return right now in their 50s, write in and let me know
in their 50s, write in and let me know how it's going for you, babe. Can't
how it's going for you, babe. Can't wait. Okay. Um, today's Polar Plunge was
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Bye. You've been listening to Good Hang. The
You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are
executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss Berman, and
Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss Berman, and me, Amy Polar. The show is produced by
me, Amy Polar. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paperkite. For The
The Ringer and Paperkite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Cat
Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Cat Spelain, Kaia McMullen, and Alia
Spelain, Kaia McMullen, and Alia Xanerys. For Paperkite, production by
Xanerys. For Paperkite, production by Sam Green, Joel Levelvel, and Jenna
Sam Green, Joel Levelvel, and Jenna Weiss Berman. Original music by Amy
Weiss Berman. Original music by Amy Miles.
Miles. really good. Hey
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