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This content explores the power of self-belief, manifestation, and embracing one's authentic creative process, as articulated by musician Russ. It emphasizes the importance of internal conviction, embracing "delusion" as a driving force, and the practical application of these mindsets in achieving extraordinary outcomes.
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what does it feel like when you see your
mom's reaction to getting the beach
house can you feel the car turning the
corner it's about immersing yourself
in that feeling as if it was going on
right now and when you do that on a
daily basis
it's not long before reality catches up [Music]
[Music]
hey everyone welcome back to on purpose
the number one health podcast
in the world thank you so much for
tuning in every single week
to listen learn and grow now you know
that i like diving into the minds
of unique individuals people with
incredible stories fascinating backgrounds
backgrounds
people with insights that are going to
help us understand how we can level up our
our
own mindset now today's guest is gonna
do just
that today's guest is russ an american rapper
rapper
singer songwriter and producer he's also
the author of the usa today and wall
street journal bestseller
it's all in your head russ has made 14
studio albums in his career
with several of his songs going platinum
and gold his latest album
shake the snow globe came out in january
of last year
and debuted at number four on the
billboard album chart russ
welcome to on purpose thanks for being
crazy it's just like crazy hearing
those things out loud i don't know just
like tripping me out sometimes yeah how
does it make you feel
well like every once in a while i unjade
and i'm like
i go back to being 17 and i'm like
what's going on like
it's crazy i'm super grateful i would
have your 17 year old self
felt if they knew that this was gonna be
the life you lived
they would have thought i was lame that
i didn't do it earlier they would have
been like
they would have been like took you to 28
what a loser
but um nah like i'm one of those people where
where
you know when when people ask like
artists or anyone like oh did you see
this coming
it's like well yeah how else do you make
it happen i don't even know how you
would make
something extraordinary happen if you
don't have like an extraordinary level
of belief
yeah i feel like there's a difference
though between like seeing
believing and knowing like some people
just know yeah
but i think sometimes we believe but
knowing is like even a deeper like it is
i know right do you know what i mean i
agree with that that's interesting
because i definitely
when i was coming up it was it was that
knowing feeling it was
there was no doubt like doubt did not
exist in my brain i knew that it was
gonna work and you couldn't tell me any different
different
i feel like if we look at the world
today especially what's happened in the
last 12 months but even before
that you see that there are a lot of
people who doubt themselves
why do you think we do that to ourselves
and how did you not fall into that
i don't know if it's necessarily age or
if it's
exposure to outside chatter so when i
was 17 it was really easy to believe in
myself because there was no one saying
anything like there was no haters or i
had nobody telling me you can't do it
maybe some friends like
joking like oh yeah you're going to be a
rapper producer but it's like you know i
think a lot of it
is you you're born a certain way i think
the other thing is
good parenting my parents especially my
dad always told me i could do
anything and would like constantly tell
me i was special
and all those things and you know i know
there's people who think that you
shouldn't tell your kids
certain things like that but for me i
you know i really commend my dad for
putting the battery in my back and
making me think i can do anything i want because
because
that's why i wrote a book i don't read
that much but i was like i could write a
book why not
you know so it's like i don't know man
shout out to my dad my dad is like the
confidence guru
so shout out to your dad yeah i love
hearing about a positive like
father role model mine was more
interesting my dad was more aloof and detached
detached
interesting which actually helped me
because it helped me craft who i wanted
to be because
right i didn't have any pressure from
him yeah and and so it's interesting how
we all
that's funny you say that because then
it just made me think that
the other thing is is i was always super super
super
competitive and i looked up to my dad a
lot like he was really good at basketball
basketball
he was super smart he could just like do
any he's one of those people like he
could just do anything and like
you ask him any question he knows the
answer to it and since i'm super competitive
competitive
i was like i have to be better than you
i have to like beat you at basketball
like he would always beat me at ping pong
pong
pool like you know what i'm saying like
i just was always so competitive so
i think that really pushed me he used to
challenge me even with like school
extra assignment projects where he
always loves telling this story i think it's
it's
slightly overrated but i'll tell it and
he'll be happy that i did
i think seventh grade there was this
class wide or grade wide uh sort of
like extracurricular thing like oh answer
answer
200 of these math questions online and
you'll get something
i don't know and my dad just used to
give me a hard time about not applying
myself so just to shut him up
i answered like all a thousand and like
won the whole thing but like he always
uses that story as just sort of this way
this thing that i do where a lot of times
times
i'll just do something to prove y'all
wrong and prove me right
you know yeah even if i don't really
want to do it but sometimes that's
enough motivation so i related to the
michael jordan the last dance thing
where like
he would use any little thing to be like
that was enough for me yeah
you know what i'm saying like y'all
picked carl malone as the mvp that was enough
enough
that's how i be feeling i only need a
little bit and sometimes i make them up
in my head i'm like
it's like a make-believe level of motivation
motivation
source of fuel so yeah i've heard you
talk about that before like this idea of
having some level of delusion yes and
one of my favorite people who had that
and i've studied his life through many
books and teachings is steve jobs
and so when you read the life of steve
jobs steve jobs had something they call
reality distortion field where he would
distort the reality he experienced to be
what he wanted it to be now that can be
very dangerous
yeah but is that like a real thing
that's like a psychological real thing
i believe so that's for sure what my
entire life was from like
17. now you got a word for it yeah now
now it sounds good so yeah reality
distortion field so tell me about
why do you think delusion is useful and
wherever you also seem to be dangerous
because i think both is well i think it
kind of depends on
what reality you're trying to create
but i do believe in you know i used to
walk around saying all my beats are a
million dollars a beat
and i'm a billionaire and i just went
platinum eight times these are all
things i would say
like that would have not happened and
they were insane me and bugis my best
friend who started diamond he put out a um
um
a project back in 2011 and we called it
2020 and i produced the whole thing and we
we
did the entire album from the
perspective of 2020. so it was like
we're on rolls royces and we just made
millions like it was
all just distorted reality but it ended
up becoming reality so i do believe that
if you want to change your reality you
have to already believe that it
is your reality but obviously if you
like are trying to do something evil or
ill-intent it's not gonna be great for
everyone else
yeah just before we started recording we
were talking about
you know being creative and being busy
and you said something really
interesting you were just like you know
i'm always creative i've always got
stuff going on here and then you're like
there's some days where i don't
you know feeling lazy like walk us
through that because
as someone who's super creative who's
loved for your creativity
and how original your work is and that's
why i've always liked you i've always
thought your
sound is very original and unique and
it's hard to like be like
it's like oh it sounds like that person
or sounds like it's like oh no no this is
is
original like that's where i've always
resonated with your work tell us about
how that is something you achieve
even though there are days where you
kind of feel like i just want to sleep
all day or whatever
yeah it's tough because uh me and
bowie's talk about it all the time the
highs and lows of an artist is really
dramatic at least for me like i'll have
days if i go into the studio and make
something i love
i'm like on cloud nine like everything
is great in my life
but then i go to sleep and i wake up and
that next day none of that matters
like i move on very quickly and and i'm
just like okay now i need to make
another one but if i can't make another
one if that day i'm just not feeling it
or i go to the studio and i try nothing
works i'm like this is
i should just give up this is this is it
i'll never get a creative
source you know what i mean and it gets
very like
you sink really low sometimes especially
if you go for me i make so much music
that if i don't
make a song for four days i'm like this
is crazy like what's happening i'm depressed
depressed
so it's hard but you got to just
remember that um
you just have to have faith in sort of
the creator in the infinite and
you know i don't feel like i really make
music i feel like i deliver it
you know because i feel like it when i
have those moments
it's just something that's coming to me
and i'm the vessel and now i'm just
delivering it
and i'm executing it and i'm almost
discovering it in the studio i don't
know if i'm creating i'm discovering it
if that makes sense so you're not always
going to be
in that place where you're getting the
message and you're getting the energy so
this is what it is just hard it's the
waiting time in between will make you
feel like this is it i'll never make
another song
what makes you feel that i love what you
just said about
delivering versus creating i i think
that's phenomenal and it's
explained really well what makes you
feel like you're in alignment
where you can deliver versus forcing you
to create like what are the things that
lack of thought right yeah lack of thought
thought
those times where you get into that
place where you're not thinking
and you're just feeling and like i said
just delivering
like i'm not even thinking about what oh
should i say this like you get the inspiration
inspiration
and you just execute it that's when you
just enter that flow state and it's just special
special
you know but it's tricky it's hard
especially like i said as i got
uh not even necessarily older just more visibility
visibility
there's outside chatter now in my head
you know what people are gonna think i
know that i'm not just releasing it to
my friends anymore like
you know so it's it's become trickier to
tune out everything but
um yeah man just try to focus on the
present moment that's like what the one
thing that i learned this past
year was really like how do i slow down
time and i was like okay well the way i
slow down time is to slow down my thoughts
thoughts
and the way i slow down my thoughts is
to be present
you know you notice if you're just
mindless and you're
you know you're making a sandwich but
you're thinking about oh my god what i
need to do tomorrow and
what all of a sudden two hours passes
right but if you really
think about like you know you cutting
the sandwich and what that's like and you
you
stepping on the grass and what your feet
feel like time moves really slow
you realize how slow time moves so i
just try to do that i try to stay in the
present even
in the studio you know i don't try to
uh have my thoughts already beyond when
this comes out and this is gonna be like
this and how's it gonna go then
i'm just like man let me just like
actually hear the music
and feel the music and just operate from
this place
i love hearing you talk about this man
because you know these are some of the
principles that
i'm constantly sharing in my work yeah
but hearing how it applies
to a music artist in your career it
brings me so much joy
yeah because it's practical it's real
like you've got
time pressures you've got you've got
pressures from
labels collaborations whatever it may be
like there are real
life pressures but when i hear you say
that and that's how you feel aligned
how did you get introduced to this work
or this set of thoughts and beliefs and
mindsets was it something that you had
since you were a kid or where did you
start exploring
with the idea of being present
experiencing fear
delivery the present moment is recent
because you know what i didn't need i felt
felt
almost like i didn't need to be present
i guess when i was coming up because
there wasn't anything pulling me away
from the present moment
i kind of only had the present moment if
that makes sense it was just
me and bugis in the basement making
songs and that was it there wasn't
tours coming up and videos you know
there was none of that so
uh but as this past year and past couple
years have been happening i got into the
power of now book and just
sort of just the whole ideology around
just being present
started reading more into that whole
theory and i just
i bought you know i bought into it a lot
of this stuff people don't
realize that a lot of the stuff like the
teachings the self-help stuff
you have to be open to receiving it you
know and if you're not open to receiving
and you're not willing to buy into it
then i
you know i hear you but god bless you
know i can only tell people it works for me
me
um but it worked for me you know being president
president
yeah i love that you mentioned the power
of now and then when you talk about flow state
state
yeah for anyone who's listening if
you've not read that book it's a
brilliant book as well
flow state yeah it's called flow and for
anyone who doesn't know
flow the way it's defined in that book
is where
your skills meet your challenge exactly
so i told you i saw like a youtube video
yes that was like enough for me i should
read the book though yeah no no no but
you brought it up and it's
it's a brilliant concept and you're
really experiencing that because most
people it says
experience when their challenge is above
their skills and so they feel
frustrated disappointed when they give
up yeah all their skills are above their
challenge and then they feel bored
because they actually have more skills
than what they're trying to achieve and
i think that's
i fell into that a little bit which is
why i started working with outside
producers because
it was so easy for me to just like go downstairs
downstairs
and make like a rust song you know like
have a million beats i can make it be
boom do this it's like alright cool whatever
whatever
you know but it kind of i got into like
a rut creatively because i was making songs
songs
but i was like i don't even it just
wasn't even that fun you know
and i think it was because it wasn't
that challenging anymore so
um i started working with outside
producers where it was like okay this is
a bit of a challenge and then further i
started trying to get
on beats even if no one hears them i
started to get on production
that i don't like in a sense
almost to just be like can i make a song
out of this wow
yeah just like because i got the studio
in my house and i don't need anyone to
record me so i can just be down there
like experimenting so
there's been beats that producers send
me and i'm like i don't like this at all
but i wonder if i can make a song out of
it and it becomes this cool little like
fun project and a lot of times
it's turned into songs that i'm like
this is crazy
wow like i get so much more fulfillment
out of it
because i couldn't see it coming a lot
of my songs i'm like
before you know when i'm making the beat
i already know what the whole song's
gonna sound like
and most of those usually end up being
very successful so i'm not gonna
downplay them
but it does make the process not as
uh on an easter egg hunt yeah yeah yeah
so yeah yeah i love hearing that because
that's putting yourself in an
uncomfortable situation right
and most of us avoid that yeah yeah most
of us just want to hear a beat and feel
something straight away
right we'll see because people are
around other people i would never
i would probably never do that if there
was people in the studio yeah with me like
like
actually out of all the beats you played
give me the one i don't like and i'm
just gonna
try to make something you know what i
mean yeah i like that's why
i always tell people whatever your craft
is make sure you have it in your house
if you can because those
moments of solitude when you can kind of
just be weird
and you know experiment and dance around
crazy and be nuts
that's where you're really gonna you
know i have a i have a line where i say
the public praises people for what they
practice in private
you know so uh i just feel like
that's when you gotta hone in on
everything is what you're doing in
private so i like when i'm by myself in
the studio i'll be getting weird [Laughter]
[Laughter]
can you tell us what's the weirdest
thing that's ever happened
i mean it's not that weird but it's like
when i'm by myself i'll put on a beat
that i'm like i don't even know what i'm
about to do on this and i'll just put
the auto-tune all the way up
and go stand in the booth for 60 takes
just wailing
and just making noises and i'll be like
this is
wild or this is trash but this was
really cool you know like i sent my
manager some song i did
uh where i made a beat and i just put
the auto tune on full blast and just
freestyled the whole song and i was like
i just had to get it out yeah but it was cool
cool
but like i would never put it out but it
was awesome this is so inspiring i i
that's i love that approach yeah it's just
just
it's so refreshing hearing that it's a
refreshing process
yeah you know because you get so rigid
with like your process and this is what
i do and we sit here and i make this
kind of song
it's like every once in a while you have
to shake the snow globe that's where
that whole
concept came from you have to just you
know it's like the tin man
and was it like turn the auto tune up
and put on some crazy heat and let me
just be a maniac for an hour it breaks
the formula
you work in this formulaic yeah
product line manufacturing and you don't
you can't manufacture greatness
that's from school yeah that's from
school school is such a factory
setup you know how were you at school
what kind of i was incredible at school
to be honest
i'm not even a lie i was i was like i'm
really not
i was not one of those like yeah i
struggled in school and it was difficult
i was really really good at school
because i wouldn't apply myself but
i was definitely the kid who like didn't
study never did homework
but i would get a's and b's on all the
tests and so everyone was just like
but i would be like you know i was
second i always say this and it's not
even something i'm necessarily proud of
but it just gives context but
like a senior superlative i was like
second for most likely to make a teacher retire
retire
because i was just the kid in class like
constantly talking distracting people
challenging the teacher but i had an a
in the class so i was just super annoying
annoying
which i know is a surprise to so many people
people
and so tell me go back to the point you
were making before before i interjected around
around
why you think that factory yes well yeah
because you know you're
you have an expiration date as a kid in school
school
you got to be out by a certain time in
high school whatever age it is
uh go to this department of the building
when the bell rings you know what i mean
it's just very like
like there's no creativity in there you
know that's why i'm really big on having arts
arts
in schools and you know just because
otherwise you just i don't know just
like creates these robots
i love that you break the mold how do
you get to a point though where you've
what i find fascinating already your
process is fascinating to me what i find
more interesting though is that your
your ability to trust yourself yeah when
you come up with something insane
because very few people ever allow themselves
themselves
to do a wild card thing right now when
you do a wild card thing in the studio
on your own
and you discover something like a sound
or a auto tune or whatever it is
and you discover a a b or a sound that
yeah oh i like this
how do you then trust yourself
to go with that when now when you play
it to someone they might be like all
right you're crazy russ like this is
never gonna work
how do you then approach that it's that
level of it's that stain of confidence that's
that's
just you can't remove i just still oh
like nas has this quote
in an interview i believe where he said
if it doesn't scare you you shouldn't
put it out
so i've always kind of like kept that in
the back of my head
you know i usually move with that and i'm
i'm
and i'm cool with that and i like that
with my fans what i've created
is this trust and this unpredictab
un predictably unpredictable sort of
relationship where they know they can
expect me to be
doing the unexpected meeting they know
it might be raps they know it might be
singing but they don't know what it's
going to sound like but they know it's
going to be me
and so i think i've done a very good job
at painting
my canvas and kind of giving people who
i am so it's allowed me a lot of creative
creative
freedom i always tell up and coming
artists like when you're coming up you
don't want it then
this is my opinion when you're coming up
and you're building your fan base
you're conditioning them to expect a
certain thing
from you a certain sound or whatever and you're
you're
you're creating this creative window a
lot of people if you just come up
only rapping right you get your whole
fan base off of only rapping
let's say you know you just you haven't
really fully tapped into you yet and now
you want to start singing
a lot of fans are going to be like you
switched up what are you doing did it
and you know you could lose a lot of
people and they might think that you're
changing when really the whole time
that's been you you just didn't have
enough time to discover it
so i was really proud of myself that i
was able to kind of
give people the whole scope of my
creativity so that
when i do go left field no one's going
to be like what are you doing
because it's kind of like oh yeah that's
just being russ like we know that
sometimes he's giving us red sometimes
it's yellow sometimes it's
orange whatever you know that's kind of
why i did the artworks all like that too
yeah just to let you know that all my
music is all different colors it's not just
just
one just spending this time with you
already and even when you came in and
stuff like you're someone who's
who's very comfortable in their own skin
but at the same time you're not
arrogant and egotistic did everyone hear that
that
yeah i'm just that's a first you know no
i agree too i think i fought into the
own narrative
he doesn't have an ego i don't know no i
definitely haven't no i mean in the
sense of let's yeah let's talk about ego
for a bit because
and and i mean in a good way i was
saying as a compliment that
i feel that you have a very uh
you know what from what i'm hearing or
at least and i'm only basing on this
conversation i've had with you but
it's like there's a stability between
like knowing you want to learn more and
be better
yeah but you are confident about who you
are and where you are which is which is
a beautiful
place to be by the way thank you who
doesn't want to be between those two things
things
yeah uh how have you tempered
that ego that we all have
with the desire to learn and grow and
realize there's more to go
but i'm really happy with what i've done
because that's what i'm hearing
yeah but i want to kind of break that
down for people because i think a lot of people
people
live in either extreme either they're
celebrating their last win
right for like seven years right or
they're just like i'm the worst i'm
never gonna win i'm never gonna win and
they don't appreciate where they are
yeah i think for me to be honest despite
perception or whatever
um i had to hype myself up i had to be
the biggest believer
of myself that's the only reason why any
of this worked and i think that
and because i'm very vocal about it
because i'm putting it out into the
universe so that it comes back
it could come off like i think
i have nothing left to learn and no
nobody can offer me anything and i know
it's like no y'all just don't know what
self-belief sounds like clearly
um you might know what it looks like and
some people are just more
um quiet about their self-belief just to
get people to like them otherwise you
get kind of my perception but
um but no i've always still been a
massive fan of people
and a massive just supporter of anything
dope anyone
anyone that knows me from when i was
nothing to
now from two years old to now like if
you're dope at anything
i'm always the first person to like root
for you
dm you send you advice like bro hit me anytime
anytime
and even just looking up to people i'm
i'm a fan out i'm like yo you're
incredible i would love to work with you
i'm that person too so i don't know i just
just
there's it's the duality you are able to
have the utmost confidence in yourself
while still
also knowing that okay but this person
is really dope too
and if we come together it could be
really fire i'm just really confident in myself
myself
and so i'm not desperate to reach after
collabs and things like that but it
doesn't mean i don't think that
i know everything and you know i'm
always asking all my like my engineer
friends like yo what plug-in is that like
like
this is crazy oh you're fired you know
when people guess
you could ask even like kid super when i
first met him the dude who made this sweater
sweater
uh he did my gypsy video years ago like 2014
2014
and when i first met him he thought i
was hella weird because
or like socially awkward because i kept
giving him
mad compliments because i was so it was
like my first
real kind of video ish even though it
wasn't like some big production but
i was just so enamored by the process
and i thought it was so dope
that i'm just like that's who i am i'm a
very complimentary
person and like i'm always gonna give
people their flowers and he was just
like i'm like nah i genuinely feel like
that so i don't know i've always been
able to
have that level of duality yeah i love
the idea of that that paradox like it
feels like uh
it feels like it's not allowed like it
sounds like it should
not be possible to think both those things
things
yeah but actually that's where all the
magic happens i agree right like that you
you
we always think no you have to choose
you have to decide or you're either raw
but actually hearing you say that
yeah actually i i think both those
things yeah uh i i love that and i love
how that doesn't stop you from
appreciating others
yeah uh who was it that appreciated your sound
sound
earlier on that you think made a
difference to you and
and may you know guided you or was it
just you for yourself it was me and
probably bugis
like uh you know for the longest time it
was just bugis wrapping and me producing
and that was uh my closest example
of like someone who i thought had really
good taste
and i trusted their opinion artistically so
so
when bugis gave me the green light to be
like yo yeah you should rap
it was just kind of like okay well game
over for everyone else like if bugas
thinks it's tight
you know so and that's how it still is like
like
um you know you it's it's important to have
have
you only need one but it's important to
have at least one person who
believes in you sometimes almost more
than you and
and there is no jealousy or weird
uh you can't win because then i won't
win like it's a very weird thing so
i always you know commend boogies for
being like the best friend you could have
have
in something that i'm doing you know
what i mean yeah let's talk about that
i like what you brought there about men
specifically like and you took me
straight back to like my teenagers where
yeah i'd be best friend with a dude and
he'd be like my brother
but then we'd go out and he'd be like
all right let's see you can get more
girls today right like that would be his
mentality or like well like oh let's see who
who
who'll be better at the sport today and
it was every time i've realized that
everyone in my life or
male relationships if every time a guy
a friend of mine has tried to turn a
friendship into a competition
yeah they haven't lost it in my life
yeah like they're no longer in my life
because i just wanted to be friends
well now don't get me wrong me and
boogie is dumb competitive okay
explain we played basketball together
like anything me and boogies will turn
into a competition for sure
but when it comes to a dream you're
following after like
it's never like yo how many streams did
your song do bro you know what i'm saying
saying
it's never been that how do you build
that balance what is it about him and
what is it about you that allows you to build
build
that kind of a friendship because i
think that's rare yeah i do especially
in today's social media world
stream world i mean followers views
comments engagement all this stuff that
we all talk about
i think we're both trying to do the same
thing you know and we're both
uh we were both real friends before all this
this
and we both understood you know we read
napoleon hill
so we understand the power of a
mastermind and we just
as big of egos as me and him have we
never let it get in the way
of like supporting one another and any
of that you know
so i don't know i just think it comes
down to the person like
how real are you you know some people
are just fake this is what it is
yeah yeah no and that and that idea of
being able to have at least even one
person just one that's all you want you
don't need
yeah because sometimes we try and we
want ten or twenty like that
and you're right for most of us we're
lucky to have one yeah and that's
that's a good enough start you mentioned
napoleon hill and mastermind
when what age were you when you read
that book 17. bugis gave me the book
so bugis was putting me on to a lot of
that stuff he put me onto napoleon hill
he put me on to the alchemist um
you know so that's the thing we weren't
just like the
i would say the like typical 17 18 year
olds you know
hanging out we graduated high school 17
and we just were locked in the studio
from then until now
you know so it was a lot of
self-discovery but
out the gate and once we left high
school we were reading those books so it
was just kind of like
we were ready to go mentally like we
read those books and we
were both the kind of the kind of people that
that
we buy into something quick and then we
latch on to it and then that's that
you know if that's what we believe you
can't tell us anything different
you know like if i'm go i went vegan for
a year because i
watched one documentary and like that
was that like once something clicks in
my brain
i'm done you know i mean like right now
i haven't had bread or grains
in two weeks because i just like woke up
and it clicked like my brother
nutritionist told me and i latched on to
him boom that's it
i've like me and him have always been
very good at just
once we decide something that's what it
is he lost a bunch of weight
you know 30 40 pounds because he just
decided i'm done you know so
once me and him decided this is what we
were doing with our lives there was no
yeah but maybe we're not doing it with
our lives or if
this was it and we were both fully
committed and every day and every like
every second of our lives was committed
to this you know
that requires such a level of discipline
to like make a choice and to stick with it
it
and i find like that's something a lot
of us struggle with today
i'm terrible at discipline and i've
always been terrible at work ethic
but then i realized that it was the work
and not
my work ethic it was the work you know i
didn't have good work ethic in school
because i didn't like the work it's not
hard to get up and do something you love
every day
and i think i think people get judged
off their work ethic
incorrectly because they get judged
their work ethic is judged off of
how well and how consistent they're
doing work they don't enjoy
how can you how can you judge somebody
off of that yeah judge me off of
you know what i love that's how i can
really tell if you're about it or not like
like
you say you love this you say you love
basketball and i know you do
but you just you're not putting in the
work that's how i know you're not really
about it now i can judge you accurately
but if you're like if you're a
basketball player and you love
basketball but
um you know somebody's judging you off
of how well you do
uh paintings and every day you're in the
art studio that's not even fair
i love that what do you think is the
most difficult thing you've been through personally
personally
like what's been a moment of time in
your life where you felt
you were really battling with something
to overcome it 2018 was pretty rough for me
me
uh just because when i was 17
and i had this
vision of what my life was gonna be and
what it was going to be like to be
on and successful and a musician and
money and fame and whatever
uh i had this very innocent like
just the world is made out of like
marshmallows and cotton candy
perspective on it you know
and when i got on it started off like
that but then it very
quickly turned and i got this very nasty
side of like fame where there's a lot of negativity
negativity
and hate and narratives and things that
are out of your control and things that
are so frustrating trying to fight
everything because i'm
i'm a fighter you know and i'm
competitive and i don't i don't like
just rolling over
so this isn't a broken version of
success this just
is success this comes with it too i
didn't like
i didn't plan for that i thought like
once you get on everything is perfect
and everything is fine because that's
what you think when you're 17. so
um that was tough just like the dose of
reality of like
oh okay this is not what i thought it
was gonna be
but that has to be okay because this is
what it is
that's such a brilliant thought that you
just said that it wasn't a
broken version of success that just was successful
successful
and it's so interesting because you're
so right that when we're teens
we think we're going to get to a place
where it doesn't matter and even now
i think a lot of people look at people
like yourself and other people that we both
both
may know in our lives and people just be
like oh yeah but that that person's life
everything probably just works out just
the way that well that's well like
that's what's so frustrating right is
that people on the outside looking in
their response to everything any famous
person is going through is
you have millions of dollars why do you
care about anything it's like what do
y'all think money is
according to most people's theory once you
you
have fame and money
you have no emotions that's it
you're no longer a human is what you're
trying to tell me i shouldn't feel sadness
sadness
i shouldn't feel anything because i have money
money
and fame it's like okay let's run with that
that
fine i'll buy into that for the sake of
the conversation
however if you're telling me now that
because of money i'm above
certain human emotions then you're
telling me i'm above you
so now when i act like i'm above you
don't now also come back and say why are
you acting like you're better than me
well you just told me i'm better than
you because i don't even have the same
emotions you have
so which one is it am i better than you
or do i experience the same emotions as you
you
it can't be both that's why i encourage
people on the outside looking in to just
shut up you know it's like
in a i'll take a more compassionate
empathetic line but yes
in the same idea of yes like the idea of
i love the way you explained that i
think it's it's a great way of cutting
through the noise
yeah because it's it's so easy because
also when we think someone is
safe yeah from human emotion because of
money and fame
then we think when we get money and fame
we will also be afraid
of human emotions so and you're in for a
rude awakening right exactly we're
projecting it on to you but then you're
setting the same standard for yourself
yeah of i hope and i and literally i've heard
heard
i think every person who's rich and
famous will say the same thing
it's just like hey this is this is what
it really ended up at it's going straight
straight
no no and it doesn't matter what any
rich and famous person says
everyone on the outside looking in won't
believe it yeah they'll be like nah that
won't be me though
yeah it's like you know what i hear you
i was there too but
you know i think i think the beauty of understanding
understanding
is understanding when you don't
understand and i always say that i think there's
there's
understanding and understanding that you
don't understand
yeah like a lot of people need to accept
that you don't get it yeah
and that is being compassionate yeah
like i can hear you but it doesn't mean
that i feel you it doesn't mean that i
get it
you know that's that's it that's it well
said man that is so true i
i think that was yeah that's such a
great definition of compassion that you
just gave because i think even when
it's even when someone calls you up and
said hey my my parent just
i had a friend tell me this my parents
just got diagnosed with stage four
cancer yeah
it's like i i can't empathize i've never
been in that position
so i can't be like oh i feel you i get
it right i have to understand
that i don't you don't understand i
don't understand that is
understandable correct yes yeah yes and
sometimes that's all
people are looking for in those moments
is just like
i just want you to be here and present i
don't expect you to get it
you know it's the people who try to act
like they get it that actually
makes you feel even more alone it's like
wow you're really showing me that you
have no clues going on
yeah and i mean when you're talking
about this time in your life the 2018
when you're
experiencing success not broken success yeah
yeah
in your words what are you
learning at that time like what is the what's
what's
we kind of know what you're learning but
what's your process of
getting out of it yeah of figuring it
out even before letting you get out of it
it
letting go of my hold on to what it
needs to be that was the ego
the ego was like it's supposed to be
like this though and it's
it's supposed to be what it is you know
and once i let go of all that and then
that's why i came out with shake to snow
globe because i realized
i just needed to reset and unjade
i was like man it is what it is yeah it
just is what it is like
it's it's what it's supposed to be and
as long as i'm still operating from a
place of love and a place of wanting to share
share
um i'm gonna be ai it'll be what it
needs to be
you know and that time is also what led
to the book in 2019 it's all in your head
head
which it was all in my head a lot of
times in my life i
kind of sometimes accidentally speak
things into existence so i had the title
of it's all in your head
for years like i always had this idea of
writing that
um from a positive standpoint obviously
like you know
manifesting and self-belief and all
those things but it's funny
that i had this title it's on your head
right you're your own worst enemy or your
your
your own biggest fan you pick whatever
it is
and then while i have this title 2018 happens
happens
and i'm losing to myself mentally
you know i had to snap out of it you
know so
it was just one of those things where i
needed to like
listen to my own advice and be like bro
it's all in your head now you know like
but now on the negative side yeah but
it's a choice at this point do you want
to fight everything and fight the whole
world or do you want to let it go
yeah and was writing the book quite
therapeutic in that because i almost
feel like when you're writing a book
called it's all in your head
it's far more simpler to go inward
because yeah
you're kind of dealing with topics and
themes that work for you what was the
biggest thing that you put in the book
that you felt was
what helped you overcome and where that
whole book and
especially the process of it was like an
interview so i had this woman who would come
come
and she had the tape recorder and i had
all the chapters mapped out
like what i was you know because it was
all song titles so i knew what the
chapters weren't going to be i knew what
i was going to talk about
um i just needed somebody to help me
organize all my thoughts
so she would come with the tape recorder
and just we would go chapter by chapter
and she would say okay we'll talk about
manifesting what it means to you and i
would just talk
and so it was really like a week and a
half of therapy sessions and then we
organized all of it together and i you know
know
did my stuff and whatever and it was
like man this was
it that's why i love that book because
it's really me like that was me
talking to a therapist for a week and a
half in a book i love it yeah
and how amazing is that that people have
that accessible to them
right because if everyone could have a
diary of them being in therapy
right i think that'd be phenomenal yeah
to be able to look back and
and work through it you've mentioned
manifestation of
a few times and and i think you've
taught us some really
in my opinion again very personal and
refreshing ways yeah we hear about the
word a lot
and randomly you're obviously someone
who believes it lives it knows it
is experiencing it what is the process
that you have practiced for you
that has worked for you that others
could understand because i think
there's a lot of like misconceptions
around it but for someone who it's
working for and someone who believes in it
it
yeah how would you describe it it's that
knowing thing you were talking about
it's not necessarily just seeing it oh i
can see myself with money and then like
then that's it now you're gonna get money
money
it's more so knowing it and also
feeling it and and not just like
excuse me not just oh like i said you
can see the beach house you bought your mom
mom
it's it's what does it feel like though
what it do
like what does it feel like when you see
your mom's reaction to getting the beach
house and can you
can you feel that can you feel the car
turning the corner
to the beach it's about immersing
yourself in that feeling
as if it was going on right now and when
you do that on a daily basis
it's not long before reality catches up with
with
your thoughts you know and like i said
it just has to be something you
believe and buy into this whole theory
you know if you believe that we are just
the universe experiencing itself and you
know we're all
in tune and connected to the infinite
and all these things
then you're gonna be fine as far as as
far as this you know method goes but if
you don't
then it's not for you you know and was
that the best thing you manifested
the beach house uh it was one of them
for sure
but just like this whole career man just
this whole life
was a complete uh product of law of
attraction but also being proactive
i wasn't just sitting yeah no you don't
just like click your heels and
go back to kansas you know what i mean like
like
tell us about the work tell us about the
product the actual like
so we get it the immersion the feeling
yeah and i know you're doing the other
part too
tell us about the strategy the the
networking the
the yeah the actual skill yeah because
you have to have a skill right well
skill can get developed
you know skill is developed i was not
the most skilled when i started at all
all of it sucked so uh you know you
develop skill through repetition and
through practice
and putting in the work but yeah i don't
think people understand that you actually
actually
need to put in the work and be
persistent you just also have to couple it
it
with a very positive mindset but
you know will smith talks about um
the concept of and i've like mentioned
this a lot like laying a brick a day
until you have a wall you know i think
his dad took them you know the story i'm
talking about
they like did the break a day like how
are we gonna build a wall and you go out
there and you lay a brick a day
so i really resonate with that whole
um story and concept and i think it's
really true i think a lot of people are
just focused on the whole bigger picture
and like
how am i gonna be this famous musician
like i haven't even made a song yet
it's like you're not supposed to be
thinking about like all that to the
point where it's daunting and crippling
you're just supposed to you know what
i know i'ma get that i can feel what
it's like but in the meantime i'mma lay
a brick a damn or make a song a day
or make a b today or find samples every day
day
or study every day like as long as
you're doing something towards the
bigger picture a small thing every day
you're good
that's real that's real and that's how
it has to be built yeah everyone always
think it's like that
the wallet analogy that you're talking
about you kind of just turn up i was
thinking about that one day i was
i was looking out into the city of la
and i was just thinking like someone had
to think about this
right i was in dubai recently i was
thinking the same it's like it's just a
desert it's a no it's a bunch of ideas
yeah and someone had to think about it
first like they would have looked out
into like
desert yeah and had to think about it
but we don't think about that because we
walk into a city
you walk into ev like that's what i find
fascinating is that every day you're
walking around in somebody's idea
that's how you know thoughts are
powerful like we're sitting inside like
this chair was somebody's idea
to make it look like this and the
cushions to be this soft and
these shoes like you're just constantly
surrounded by other people's ideas
and i think the really cool thing about
free will is contributing your ideas
back into the infrastructure of what's
already going on
that's so powerful man yeah what you
just said now is so powerful how
how do we how do we know if our idea is good
good
or is that even the right question i
don't think that's the right question
i think i think is it
serviceable you know does it help [Music]
[Music]
you know is it just for you or is it are you
you
serving a bigger purpose that's why i
think music is really great
because we're you know it's a
service for the world we're providing
you know big or small however you want
to quantify it is on you but
it's definitely a service that we're
providing and i realized
you know after i got money and fame and whatever
whatever
um i was like man the whole point of
this like i had i literally said this to myself
myself
the other day in the shower that's where
all my ideas happen
and i don't feel bad i don't feel bad
about that because pharrell said the
same thing yeah
um but i literally just blurted out i
was like
i need more money so i can help more
people it was just like a thing that
blurted out
and i was like i was like yeah that's
the whole point
of all this i had this like epiphany i
was like i'm 28
i made it the only thing left to do
is obviously i keep making it but it's
to help other people make it
you know and i just think that our goal
is to just
give and i think there's a very
uh misled sort of
idea that we're supposed to be getters
and i think um bugis actually mentioned
this concept to me
about being a go giver instead of a go-getter
go-getter
i think a lot of times especially with
music success fame
we're just thinking about what can we
get you know and
what can i get from the world when i put
this song out and so on and so forth but
it's more so about what can i give to
the world
tell me about a message or a piece of
fan mail
or an experience you've had with a fan
or a listener that made you realize how
impactful music is on someone i'm sure
you've had some phenomenal
and you know it's so many man to be
honest and i'm so fortunate that it's so
many but
every day people are sending me messages
of you saved my life and
you meet people and they're crying their
eyes out because it's like you
helped them so much and that's you know
that's when you realize it's just way
bigger than you
you know it's just way bigger than you and
and
like i said i think i'm just excited to keep
keep
giving to the world and i know that
could sound cliche and like
you don't believe that i'm actually that
generous but it's really like
you know anyone around me knows like i'm always
always
trying to help you know i'm always
trying to like
give people money or whatever just
because it's like that's you know my mom
told me a long time ago
when i first started getting money she
said uh
money is meant to change people's
realities and so if you have the ability
to do it
you should so i get a kick out of just like
like
you know i'll see a fan on twitter and
they're like raising money for like
their dance program and i'm just like
here you know a kid will send me a dm like
like
you know my mom's funeral and i'm just
like why not
you know and i don't need to post about
it it's what you're supposed to do
you're supposed to give it back and i
and i think i'm also a very big believer
in not blocking the natural flow
of the universe and i think money is a
force of energy
and when you get it and you're just
focused on keeping it you're gonna lose it
it
so i always get money and give it right
back and i think that's why it keeps
coming in
yeah i just give it away yeah and it's
given in your own way right like i think
what i love about what you're saying and
you're talking about the cliche of
giving to me it's you figured out
how you like giving yeah and and that's
what matters for all of us because
some people are going to do charity work
some people are going to build schools
some people are going to
support the people around them some
people are going to help yeah a person
on twitter or whatever who
who can't even pay for their mother's
funeral or whatever it is like you know
the point is if supporting
in the way you can yeah and in the way
you feel called to
yeah because that's all you have and it
tripped me out
when like i said when boogies brought
this concept to me
and go give her yeah go give her and
and i was like man
i never fully understood
the complete reason why i got so much
out of life already
and he was like it's because you gave so
much and i never thought about it like that
that
but you know when you think about you
know i have more songs out
than some of the veterans in the game
most of them you know i got 500 songs
just like the game i give to try
like i give a lot and i don't think
about what i'm doing i'm like i'm about
to give this so i can get it
yeah yeah you know i'm just like giving
it because i naturally want to do that
but it makes a lot of sense that you
know givers get more than the ghettos
yeah and even when you're giving and
it's not even being loved or received
that way
but you continue to give yeah because
sometimes it's easy to give when
everyone's kind of like oh we listen
they give you the validation but
sometimes you're just giving because
we'll see but if you're only giving it
to get something back then you're not
giving me anything you're loaning it
that's what i always tell people like
women i don't care who it is don't give me
me
love if you're only giving it to get
something back
then it's conditional and it's not
giving you're loaning me love
you're only loaning me love for an
extended period of time until i give it back
back
i don't do that i give love and give
game and
give money and whatever it is i don't
expect anything back
i give it because that feels like the
right thing to do and it aligns with my spirit
spirit
how do you feel or how do you respond when
when
you realize someone just learned it to
you when you thought
that they were giving i expect most
people to act like that right
because most people are like that most
people are out for self they're very self-serving
self-serving
and so i know that
most people are operating from a place
of i'm not doing
any favors and i'm not doing anything
for free and
so i'm not really surprised i'm not that
naive you know
i think you can be you can be naive if
you want to the point of like
i really thought you were just helping
me out it's like
okay you know i don't assume anyone's
just helping me out i
like you get in trouble and you get your
feelings hurt when you assume people are
as kind as you
or people you know not to be like i'm
the most kind person ever but
you can get your feelings so if you
assume everyone is like you
that's when you get disappointed and you
know and you suffer and the whole thing
with suffering it comes from attachment
so if you get attached to the idea that
oh well they're going to operate how i'm
operating you're going to suffer
you know so i try not to get attached to
anything really yeah that's the only
time people
suffer is when there's attachment
involved yeah you know you're not going
to freak out
if a water bottle right here gets like
burned or your table gets burned you're
not that attached to the table
you know so that's when you got to like
choose in life with your
what's worth getting attached to which i
really think it's people and animals
people and pets that's about it you know
everything else is pretty replaceable
yeah off top of my head yeah i'm gonna
add people pets and purpose we'll add a
third one
sure yeah people pets and purpose i like
that yeah but even the purpose it's hard
you know you get so attached to that you
can suffer a lot along the way
if things don't go the way you want them
that's that's what happened to me in 2018.
2018.
i was suffering because it wasn't going
the way i was attached to and once i let go
go
of that attachment to how i thought it
was supposed to go i was fine
yeah you know sure there's dips in here
and there but for the most part
i'm good yeah yeah i always say to
people you you get to where you want in
life just not in the way you imagined it
yeah or when yeah or when you imagined
it and that's the challenge right it's
like you have reality
and then you have your projector screen
up here yeah you're trying to make this
projector screen happen but but this is
reality right now
yeah and that's what you're actually
going through just have faith that
whatever you want you're gonna get it in
whatever life you want you're
you're gonna achieve it but it doesn't
matter when
that should be irrelevant you know you
have you can't put
a deadline on your own success it's
crazy yeah
it ruins people you know you know those
people that are like by 30 if i don't
have to
do and it's like then what's what's
going to happen at 30 if you don't
you know what i'm saying like what
happens you know
and you don't know when yeah you don't
you know you're 28 now like my
my life took off externally internally
my journey started
at 16. sure but externally my journey
started at 28.
wow and so you know i'm 33 now and it's
and it's just interesting it's like you
just don't know when what's going to happen
happen
and and you just but you trusted the way
you believed in it yeah yeah i loved that
that
trust yeah that's that's really
beautiful man dude this has been
like this has been one of the most
refreshing conversations yeah in a long time
time
nice like i love how you've brought
everything you've learned along the way
and made it so
practical yeah in your i've had to make
sense of my whole
everything like yeah you've really made
sense of it like
listening to you i'm like wow like this
is you know you can tell that
russ is reflected and deeply
inter internalized these concepts
because it's really easy to say the
stuff uh
but the practical aspects of it of how
you live it
yeah is what's blown me away yeah i
appreciate it well
i always tell people being a musician uh
it's such a self-discovery
thing like you learn just so much about
yourself and the universe when you're an artist
artist
and you're you know it's just i don't
it's such
about like diving deep into the depths
of yourself and discovering you
and it's when you're making when you
when you're the type of artist i feel
like i am which is
i'm trying to talk about the truth i'm
trying to help people
i had to kind of those self-help books
and just kind of moving through this
journey i had to
find the way to apply all this stuff to
my life in a practica
practical productive way you can tell
man yeah thank you
but yeah we we end every interview the
final five so this is a rapid fire fight
live so you're gonna answer every
question in one word or
one sentence maximum fire so that's for
every one of them easy for you you're a
lyricist and yeah you know you've
you this will be easy for you all right
the first question is uh
what's the best advice you've ever
received what if it can turn out better
than you can imagine
second question what's the worst advice
you've ever received be realistic
nice that's good that's a good one all
right third question what's one thing
you're trying to learn
or grow and develop right now more of
a affinity and appreciation for the
present moment
i like that all right question number
four what's one thing that you think
other people value but you don't value
i don't know what do people value that i
think is dumb
all right i agree yeah good all right
fifth and final question
uh if you could create one law in the
world that
everyone had to follow what would it be
the golden rule bro
that they teach you in fifth grade like
do unto others as they
you know what i mean if everyone had to
only treat people the way
that they would be treated i think
obviously the world would be in a much
better spot
you'd be much more conscious of like all
right maybe i shouldn't do this
but the thing that's funny about that i
always laugh when people think they get
away with
something you did it there's always to me
me
i believe the universe is seeing
everything jay electronic has this line
where he's
the universe is listening be careful
what you saying it you know it's like
you might think you got over on me you
did it somebody saw
yeah you know good luck enjoy that and
the worst thing is you saw
somewhere deep inside of yourself yeah
and that's the worst one
yeah like that's the one that eats you
up the most everyone rushed this has been
been
honestly one of my favorite
conversations yeah that was really there
are so many things you shared that
i hope everyone who's listening and
watching is going to go back and listen
to watch
and write notes uh i didn't tell you at
the start but now i'm like you should
have taken notes because
this is one of those episodes where
there were just so many practical
examples of
not listening to people's opinions
finding solitude for your creativity
allowing yourself to be wild and insane
on your own so you can
discover new things about yourself uh
the ability to balance
confidence with humility at the same
time i mean you've just been dropping
bars the whole time i really like the
way you framed all the
questions though cause it had me
thinking in ways i wasn't like i never
really thought about the duality of
the ego while also being a fan and just
being i never told anyone about being
crazy in the studio when you're by
yourself like the auto-tune thing
i love that that was one of my favorite
things but no i appreciate it man and i
hope everyone who's listening and watching
watching
uh go and grab a copy of russ's book
it's all in your head
it will be a great read for you if you
love this conversation
and of course uh all the music all the
albums but uh
thank you for coming on on purpose man
and we hope we can have you back for
part two for sure
thanks for having me yeah we should do
this regularly because i feel like it
would be nice to see
your evolution yeah and your growth as
time goes on
yeah man thank you thank you thank you
everyone who's listening and watching
thank you for watching on
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with you guys
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