I have two different very different
lives I have Tyson Fury who I was born
and then I have the Gypsy King I
couldn't tell him apart this week on
high performance see a new side to the
Gypsy King Tyson Fury I'd always set
myself to be heavyweight champion of the
world there was a lot of trauma and [ __ ]
that went on this is not going to sink
in because I've got Klitschko to be
there wasn't one day that went by that I
didn't want to die or wish death upon
myself I even asked God to kill me how
are people around you responding yeah
they thought depression was this word
they would just say man up pull yourself
together all the [ __ ] that you don't
want to wear your dad said to me you've
got the whole world in your hand you're
still not happy people out there ain't
got bread toy what brought you out of it
but I heard a voice and it said think
about your kids and I heard it say pull
over and that was the moment that I knew
I had to go see these doctors it was
pretty scary not scary as heading
towards that bridge bang it this big eye
curb and break up jumping out the car
and throwing the keys down the road it
was terrifying frightening experienced
I've ever had in my life could imagine
my dad here in that bipolar disorder
anxiety was it good for you for the
first time in your home to have Clarity
for someone to say this is what you've
got this is it I felt like the weight of
the world was lifted off my shoulders
tomorrow we start the regain Mission
this career is going to be so much
different to before and I've actually
grew an obsession with time farewell
goodbye forever Adele this is the end
the punch that finished that fight 94
000 at Wembley it was an epic moment to
go why not stop then so here's what
happened why am I back what is high
performance in your mind Tyson high
performance to me is high octane full
energy full attack Victory and
everything that comes of it that's what
high performance is to me so how do you
develop a mindset that allows you to be
at that level and we will talk in depth
in these podcasts about the fact that it
isn't always plain sailing for you but I think
think
self-belief is probably at the core of
your own version of high performance right
right self-belief
self-belief um
um
from a very very early age
now I want to go quite deep into this so
the listeners can sort of get to know
how I've become such a high performance
fat man
and I would put it down to my mental health
health OCD
OCD addictive
addictive
behavior that I have um
um
obsessive compulsive disorder
so if you're obsessive about anything it
can be unhealthy
that will equal usually success
and I have been and still am
very obsessive
about my job um
um
from a little kid
I've outworked everybody I've ever been with
with
and for a heavyweight that takes a lot
of doing I'm a man 20 stone I can I can
outwork people nine Stone featherweights
in the gym which is unumanly impossible
however I've managed to do it over the years
years um
um
just with the attitude of
no retreat and no surrender
and just keep going and pushing yourself and
and
I have actually found a very comfortable seat
seat
in my most uncomfortable areas and if
you can do that if he can run at the
level of
finding a comfortable position in your
mouth uncomfortable circumstances that's
where you're going to be successful or
or
or high performance in your area and I
have found that I can find solace in the
hardest toughest darkest places
but I've managed to do that from
experience and practice
and you know I test myself a lot all the
time I'm always testing I'm always
testing the Gypsy King Tyson Fury the
man will test the Gypsy King to the
utmost point where explain that
so the way I have sort of structured my
life in able to cope with stuff like
I have two different very different
lives like I have Tyson Fury who I was
born and named
who is a husband a father a son
a mental health patient
about a guy who's interested in boxing
boxing fun
a very flawed character
lazy at times um
um
and then I have the Gypsy King
who has never ever suffered with any problems
problems
who has never had any complications in
his life
who was just mental concrete
and that person is
what I believe unbeatable so tell us
about the origins of that then because
you've grown I'm interested in this one
a couple of areas one is we know your
dad you know he's very notable figure
but they're probably a mum never really
gets mentioned and I'm interested in
that for Tyson Fury yeah the man but
then I'm also interested in when you
develop this mask or this cloak of
invincibility of the Gypsy King so if we
can take it in turn to talk to us about
your mum so before we start talking
about the mother I just want to go start
going like the first book I wrote was
called behind the mask
so in around about
I got lost in between these two characters
characters
Tyson Fury and Gypsy King got entangled
and I couldn't tell him apart
I couldn't live different lives it was
just one life rolled into one
and I knew that that was very unhealthy
allowed to get back to being myself and
split these two things how did that
manifest itself
of doing the same thing and being so
super confident and like I say these
characters have always been separate and
then all of a sudden emerged what
happened then like were you just being I
just I just couldn't snap out of
character I had to just even at home
with Paris even at home even behind the
scenes anything I just couldn't couldn't um
um
to find the two men it was very very
hard for me and I was
it was almost like I was lost in in a
movie script and I couldn't get out of it
it
um I had to be this big Brash confident
um outspoken controversial figure all
the time yeah
yeah and it was unrecognizable for me
wife like someone was this this person
she knew from being 15 16 years old
to seeing like how I'd become this
badass character in a movie and even
like I'm thinking like
this is not me really and I knew if I
was ever gonna
have a happy life I had to get back to being
being
the person I was in the beginning
and try and separate these two things
and it was pretty difficult it was just to
to
a process of
all these things coming together and
then emerging
but I believe it it had to happen to me
this had to happen in order for me to
get through to something and be who I am today
today so
at one point in my career
there was always the expectation of oh
don't worry about anything because
Tyson's going to come and he's going to
publicize everything and the show's
going to be run on his back I was just
like one of those little circus monkeys
that you wind up and he's going to go to
work and he's got everything's going to
be fine
and I almost took that responsibility
don't worry I will do everything just
sit back and relax Watch Me Go
and I become like a performing Act and
there was just no filter there was no
switch off there was no there was no
being me and being not me I was this
performer and
I was going to live up to it you taught
really movingly in the book about this
actually the phrase you use you say I
compartmentalize my mental health
like Odd Socks being shoved in a drawer
explain that to us
you know you just get on with it you
you
I took that responsibility on
and it was almost like a manifestation
over time
and just put it all into practice put it
into play on a daily basis
until it got to the point where I
couldn't be myself anymore I didn't know
what was me and what wasn't I didn't
know how I was before
until I obviously had the mental
breakdown and then I finally realized that
that
to try and live up that that that pace
for such a long time
is very unhealthy with every big high
there's always an even bigger low for me so
so
this character will morph like a Power
Ranger or a
an anime character I'll morph into this
this guy and then there's always massive
lows afterwards like big depressions and
anxiety and everything after these big
events even now even now yeah so after
the Wembley fight obviously was the
higher the highs the lower the lows will
always be for me but I've figured out
how to manage this over time so what I
like to do now is I know it's coming
after these big events I'm going to be
down most of the times I have Suicidal
Thoughts which is kind of crazy even to
sit here and admit today after all these
big events and these these big successes
I'm like proper suicidal for a few days
what do you mean by that like the like
how how seriously are these just like
want to die type of thing but I know
from experience now that
this is going to move in a few days a
week I always say to Paris like after
these fights just let me have a bit of space
space
try not give me too much tasks to do and
I'll be back in a week I'll be I'll be
back to normal in a week or so and do
you stay with the family stay with the
family and what I like to do is I like
to get myself straight back to
Grassroots straight away like the day
after the fight I'll go out of a few
beers of the boys type of thing but I'll
be back doing my jobs like I'll be back
doing the bins and tip runs and people
say sorry on Saturday yesterday fighting
in London like and I'm at the tip the
next day on Sunday in Morecambe with
loads of rubbish and stuff and let's get
myself straight back to normal stuff
like back Monday morning dropping the
kids off and people
it brings me back to normal
it brings me back to normal being who I
am I know I have to be a provider a
carer that sort of person
this is such a valuable conversation for
us to be having because
people as people see the Gypsy King
right because he's the guy that's on the
Telly he's the guy that has the fights
he's the guy in the press conferences
they very rarely see this which is Tyson
Fury the man talking in this way
and people assume if you're successful
everything's easy
I really want you to if you can explain
what you've learned about
why your brain does this because there
will be people listening to this who
have the same thing but it scares the
life out of them they haven't learned to
deal with it and they may well be on the
edge and this may well be the
conversation that makes the difference
for them what would you say to those
people they haven't yet found the
clarity to learn to live with it you
know the first thing that I would say to
anybody is
After experiencing all these things like
you can't do on your own communication
is the key like I was so long I come
from a big tough family of all fighters
and nobody shows emotion or no one
everyone just like keeps everything to
themselves oh everything's great and
that sort of stuff so I know what it's
like not to have anybody to speak to
about anything and I know what it's like
to be almost ashamed of saying like I'm
severely unwellia and I need need help
because needing help for me has been
it's almost like I don't need help from
anything I'm Tyson Fury I fight my way
out of anything
but the sooner I realized I couldn't do
it on my own
the sooner I got back well again and I
think admitting to yourself that you've
got a problem whether you've got an
alcohol problem or a drug problem or
whatever problem you may have acceptance
is the key first you can all see it
but if I don't accept that I've got a
problem that needs working out then I'll
be in denial forever but the sooner I
can come to grips and admit to myself
I've got a problem I can start to
recover from it and my advice to anyone
suffering with any sort of mental health
or any sort of issue is
get straight to the seek medical advice immediately
immediately
because the sooner you go and do that
sooner you figure [ __ ] out like that
then soon you can get back to what is
normal for you
and and I remember I I've been suffering
with these mental health problems from
being a little boy like all my life I remember
remember
what I now know as anxiety
I didn't know back then when I was kid why
why
young like small enough to hide in a wardrobe
wardrobe
and be anxious inside a dark wardrobe
um five years old six years old I'd have
these feelings of like I'm going to be
left behind but no one we wasn't going anywhere
anywhere
it was I didn't understand that I had no
education on Mental Health and
up until a few years ago like it wasn't
this big open widespread thing
throughout the world and there was no
world mental health days and there
wasn't no it's okay not to be okay and
all that it was like no it was all hush
hush under the carpet stuff
and I didn't I didn't understand like
all the way through my life I had this
down one day up the next up and down up
and down up and down anxious anxious
anxious but didn't know what it was and
and
I suppose I I learned how to sort of
handle it with focusing on a certain goal
goal
and the gold that I had the goal I had
was an unreachable goal
and to give myself this unreachable goal
give me Focus right beyond the problems
that I was going through on a daily basis
basis
I I'd always set myself to be
heavyweight champion of the world so
there's seven billion people in the
world so you're a newborn baby what's
the odds in becoming this Impossible
Dream which is an Impossible Dream you
take a newborn baby today and say right
whatever it is right I'm gonna be the
World Heavyweight Champion it's very
unlikely it's an enrichable unreachable dream
dream
and I give myself that dream and focused
on it that much
I wasn't I didn't allow myself to get
caught up with all the mental health
stuff along the way because I always had
Klitschko on my mind
from being 14 years old klitschko's
world heavyweight champion or right up
there you know what I mean I was used to
watching him on TV and
always my plan was always to beat Vladimir
Vladimir
and I always thought to myself whoever
beats Vladimir it's going to become a
legend in this game
such a long Reign so I had a lot of
trauma going in my life
from being that age too
becoming champion
I was very close to my uncle you died
um I was actually in a training camp
when he was when he was when he I was
about to fight I was about to go to a
weigh-in and yeah we got the news that
he died and it was just like oh my God
he injured himself hadn't he in a had an
accident yeah he had an accident he
ended up getting a blood clot in his leg
and and died
um he was a diabetic type type one or
two I can't remember but he um
he died and at the same time he was in
in a coma my wife was in um the hospital
the same the the Women's Hospital next
door have given birth to a dead child so
there was a lot of
unhappiness going on in my life and so
it was uh and I always like put it
always to the back of my mind because I
was thinking I don't have time now to be
upset about this I need to be upset when
I beat Klitschko
if that makes any sense yes so there was
a lot of
a lot of trauma and [ __ ] that went on
that I put to the back of my mind and I
was like I can't focus on any of this
now this wasn't that wasn't the only
stuff there was a lot of other stuff as
well that went on but I was like nope
nothing I can't this is not going to
sink in because I've got Klitschko to be
and until that day I will not focus on
anything other than beating Klitschko
and it was all a process even if it
wasn't fighting Klitschko which I wasn't
at that time I was fighting the final
Eliminator to fight glitch coaches Ora
too yeah but I was wasn't thinking about
chisora or any of these other guys it
was always about becoming World
Heavyweight Champion or nothing and did
you ever plan for after beating
Cleveland no because that was Everest
and I remember just laying there
thinking I hope this is not a dream
please don't wake up in a minute
I'm thinking like and after that that feeling
feeling
thinking like
I was just lying there when my eyes are
open and I couldn't sleep
and I was thinking
like I I will be fulfilled if I die in
her right now like I'm very happy with
what I've done and I'm thinking like I
don't have any more purpose in my life anymore
anymore
like I was thinking right I die now I'm
just that's it I'm happy but at the time
I started two kids my wife just told me
the day before she was pregnant with our
third child
and I've just won the world title and
everything was hunky-dory
but for me it was like that's it I've
achieved my lifelong dream like I'm
gonna die now that's it I was 27. had
everything that was possible to have had
a family I had achievement I had money I
had Fame I had everything
but at that moment
from about 16 months I'd say there
wasn't one day that went by that I
didn't want to die or wish death upon
myself I even asked God to kill me I'm
being religious person as well someone
who's feared Gordon yeah and had that in
my life forever
I'd pray and say why have I woke up
today so here's the question right not
having not having purpose we can all
understand that and all of us have had
moments in our lives where we feel yeah
I'm lacking a bit of direction here
that's a long way away from not wanting
to be on the on the earth so what what
was the reason for for wanting to be
dead now that is the billion dollar
question my friend so if I could answer
that question I wouldn't be a boxer
would I be a multi-billionaire
because if I could pinpoint a moment in
everyone's life where that's what went
wrong let's move that I raise it a
little bit explain it to him and
everything's great now then it won't be
it wouldn't be but did you know it was
irrational like that this wasn't normal
it was like I said earlier on it was
this buildup of all these shitty events
that went on in my life and everything
that I'd been I'd been bottling up over
the years
and at that moment
everything that I put to the back of the
queue I was now thinking about and
mourning for and all that sort of stuff and
and
I always try to explain it like if you
get a bottle of champagne and Shake It Up
Up
it's going to explode sooner or later in
it than to pop the Cork's gonna pop off
but I can't really figure out there
wasn't one single moment in my life that
made that happen it was years and years
and years of wanting something so much
that nothing else mattered and being
very very obsessed with this goal
and then achieving it and it was like
okay that's it now
I'm happy with that but now I'm ready to die
die
I suppose I had that feeling of when
you're an old man and you're retired and
you've achieved everything and you're a
grandparent maybe a great grandparent
and you you're ready to just move on
and I must have had those emotions and Valence
Valence
because I was really ready to maybe make
a like 27 I had everything to live for I
even had kids how selfish was I thinking
I suppose when you're very mentally unwell
unwell
you don't think about anything else
other than self-destruct
self-destruct
and other than yourself because it's a
very selfish thing
um no matter what I've tried to think
about like think about my kids think
about me why I think about everything
that it didn't matter to me
because a normal straight thinking
person would say this is madness you've
got all this family going on even you
don't want a box to get boxing
live for your family you have everything
going on for someone who's not thinking well
well
can't put that into reason that doesn't
it's not a a thought that I would I
would take on board and process so how's
mental health viewed from the people
around you so you describe now growing
up people didn't talk about this kind of
thing so when they're hearing you have
these conversations or talk about I'm
going to finish I could die tomorrow if
I needed to how are people around you
responding yeah again no experience on
it they didn't understand they wasn't
educated on it they were just like guys
he's a silly person he's like wanting
attention or he's like he's got me dad
said to me even in a circle guard me
Brothers No One understood what I was
going through didn't know what
Depression was or so what were they
saying he thought depression was this word
word
or whatever they would just saying man
up pull yourself together all the [ __ ]
that you don't want to wear yep
think about this you got this going on
your dad said to me you've got the whole
world in your hand and you're still not
happy there's people out there who
haven't got bread to eat
you can see how that makes you feel
worse though
and what was the effects on you when
you're hearing that you're looking
around yeah I was thinking like why
can't I shake this off like
yeah I should be able to I should be
able to blow it out my nose of this and
I was making myself worse thinking
why can't I shift this why not
I'm trying to get rid of it all the time
and he just went from bad to worse
people will never really understand the
extent of how bad I was I was pretty
[ __ ] up
um and what was the worst moment yeah
the lowest point the lowest points
obviously is the attempting suicide
but before that was in the car was it
yeah but before this
for quite a long time I was hearing
and that is a frightening experience so
tell us about that what do you mean by
that what that whose voice was it I
don't know what they're saying I don't
know whose voice it was but it was a
clear voice
and it would be telling me to kill
myself on all sorts it was like I was
possessed by a demon or something
without sounding like a crazy person on
someone who's watched a horror movie
right it was a terrifying experience I
can tell you that it was absolutely
horrifying so where were you
I'd be letting me bed and I could hear
all these voices and I could hear
screams and all sorts of [ __ ] going on I
was like oh my God
it got to a point where I couldn't go to
bed anymore sober because when I was
absolutely steaming I didn't hear these
voices right and
and
during like my my
normal moments sanest moments in life I
I do not fear anything I don't feel
dying I don't fear
anything is not a scary thing to me I
don't give a [ __ ] about nothing really however
however
at this moment I was scared like a
little child
had been in bed like this all anxious
and holding my hands tight and grinding
me to oh I was on a right state
and I figured out like if I go and have
a few drinks
I can just like sort of knock out and go
to bed and
and not not feel yeah not hear these
voices and not feel anxious and can I
ask like were you abuser before this
when you're on the journey up to
classical no you'd never you were a big
drinker no no well I had a couple of
drinks in that but it wasn't a big a big
drinker yeah so good
I figured out that that's how to make
this problem go away short time but I
have to keep doing that for a long
period of time
obviously it's a mask it only masks the
problem for a minute and then you wake
up the next day or the week later and
you're even worser deeper in a darker
hole and at this time I was getting
fatter by the day as well
and I believe a lot of my problems are
Eating Disorders as well
and I'm always ballooning up in weight
all the time if I don't concentrate on
it forever every day then I just get
fatter by the day even today like I can
go from like 19 Stone 10 to I'd say I'd
be 30 Stone in one year if I didn't eat
train every day like a lunatic and he
tried try to be sensible as well
so I'm getting fatter by the day I'm
drinking every day I'm hearing voices in
my mind I don't want to live anymore I
don't care about anything
I'll tell him in a dark place
people say to me oh you lost 10 stone
and you come back
weight loss is a very easy thing for me
like I've even in before I fought Klitschko
Klitschko
I walked into camp at 24 Stone 10 pounds
and I thought glitch got 18 stone three
12 weeks later
so I've always been able to
get weight on and off can I jump out
though sorry I don't mean to be rude but
I'm intrigued like you diagnosing a lot
of this stuff now like eating disorders
and some of these mental health issues
but I want to go right back to the start
of your journey you've referenced some
of the trauma you had like Huey and
Paris having a stillborn baby what's
happened to you in that period that now
you can look back and see some of these
seeds of dysfunction was starting to be
sown is there anything you can identify
what do you mean like the moment that I
I could realize what was going on but
just growing up you know you described
in that moment of like locking yourself
in a wardrobe and fighting you're going
to get left behind you know yeah and so
the seeds of these kinds of dysfunctions
are often sold in childhood something happens
happens
I truly believe that all of these these
things start from
a childhood well you tell me what a five
or six year old like I've got a five or
six year old at home
what has he got to be anxious about but
that's what I'm asking is it Dad I don't
think there was a trigger point no right
could it be possible that
that
you're born with this and it's developed
over time right I've like I think so so
I have an anxious daughter and she's
nine years old now and she exactly sure
it's very interesting you're describing
from an adult perspective knowing it's
irrational people saying you'll be fine
making it worse
she's she she's exactly the same we
leave the house and it's a totally
irrational fear that we're going out and
then when we say you'll be fine she's
another makes me feel worse because I
know I'll be fine but I have this
feeling in my stomach like I know I'll
be fine dad but I'm scared I'm scared
witless because you're leaving the house
and I believe that it is these are
things we're born with but I also
believe right that
everything has a price so I think
there's a very good case here that without
without
all of the emotional challenges that
you've been through
there's no way we're sitting here
talking to you now it was
the heavyweight champion of the world I
think that you don't get one without the
other do you believe yeah I do believe
you're um probably correct because
everything we have to experience is all
a part of our journey like a jigsaw
piece but I'm just trying to go back now
I'm searching the mind for
traumatic moments as a child and
I can go back to 1997 we had a sister
born I mean mother had 14 kids
and 10 of them died
and forth okay now yeah that's horrific
isn't it so imagine like all these miscarriages
miscarriages
some of them were born some of them were
still born and these these after you're
born so you're like in between after
before all this sort of stuff yeah
and I remember like me that she said oh
they were all boys and and when she was
finally pregnant with her daughter
the last one and
and
this this daughter was like ah we can't
wait we're getting a sister finally
after all these years
and um
so my mother was like fully pregnant
like heavily like nine months ready
because well she went into the hospital
she had the baby and the baby was unwell
he had she had like lung problems and
underdeveloped lungs and whatever anyway
she ended up living for a few days and
I'm dying and it was a
was a horrible sort of experience so so
nine years old that's quite a horrific
moment isn't it but yeah yeah I always
remember that so that might have been a
could have been a trigger trigger moment
in my life but
was that the beginning of it
I don't think so but what I mean I
believe I remember being in that
wardrobe before all this so maybe that
was a an adjective to it all as well
yeah however I can't pinpoint Acura see
what was the event or moment that made
this happen so what are you doing
different than with your kids than what
maybe you experienced as a child that
you think might help them avoid some of
these mental health challenges so yeah like
like
with our kids like we've had I think
we've had like
and we've sort of kept that away from
the kids kids don't need to know about
all that sort of stuff right so if we
have a problem like adult problems
I I don't let the kids know about it um
um
how old's your oldest my oldest she's 13
today happy birthday to her yeah have
you shared with her what you're sharing
with us does she know about her dad's struggles
struggles
she knows about that struggles but not I
don't think she really understands
in-depth problems so we had this little
moment the other night like I go all my
kids in and me and Paris sat down on the
bed and we asked them like
do you ever say he was arguing or
but well when's the last time you saw
Mom and Dad fighting
and we were surprised at the results of
this quote they couldn't remember
Venezuela remembered it a time about
four or five years ago
decent and other than that
they haven't really they couldn't
mention anything that they've seen such
as I was very proud of that moment
and yeah I like that's a very good thing
for me because the last thing that I
want my kids to experience is is their
parents problems like all relationships
of arguments and ups and downs and packs
and forwards well that's should be
private from the kids and was it for you
for me it wasn't no right for me as a
kid it was my dad was up and down it was
arguments you know what I mean my dad
was a bit of a party animal back in his
day a bit of a Jack to Lad boxer up and
down Jack about town and all that yeah
so you'd be going on Benders for two
days and coming back I mean mother would
be screaming and you can imagine yeah
so I suppose that might have had a an
effect on it all as well and and I just
didn't want that for my kids
now I know if I'm listening to this
conversation I'm thinking well
I've Just Seen Tyson fight recently I
know that there's talk about him
carrying on fighting or maybe not
carrying on fighting but he seems okay
yeah so we've talked about the darkest
moments and you know you've gone on
record of saying that you were in your
sports car you looked at a bridge and
you thought
I'm going to kill myself yeah
what brought you out of it
again this is going to sound strange
but I heard a voice again and it said
don't do this
think about your kids growing up with an
old dad and you're going to be labeled
as a weak piece of [ __ ] for taking an
easy way out
and leaving everybody and abandoning everybody
and I pulled over and at that time my
heart was beating at me but it was in
the zone the death zone
and I [ __ ] I feel all the tears coming
down and I was like I was
hyperventilating everything and that was
the moment
that I knew I had to go see these
doctors straight away regardless of what
anybody thought of me
and whatever it was going to be
I had to go and find my way back to to
the light and how scary it was going to
seek help
it was pretty scary not scary as heading
towards that bridge 180 miles an hour however
however
it was pretty scary because this was
going to be the first time that
I was going to go seek medical advice
and tell some strange manner in my mind
at the time was just going to go and
tell his mates in the pub later just
thought every Weight champion of the
world he's the right [ __ ] you've told
me all these problems having a few beers
not thinking this man's a professional
doctor private confidentiality like this
is how irrational I was thinking
thinking this doctor's gonna go out of
his piles later and divulge all my
private business
so I'm thinking
this is going to be crazy so I just
thought you know what I don't give a
[ __ ] what he's gonna do I'm gonna go
there I've done some research about
places to go and people to see
and I started going to these
to the I don't know if they call them
psychiatrists no it's Americans or
psychologists or psychiatrists yeah and
and
my dad won't remember the shame but
maybe the little brother you were with
me at the time after this
car situation my dad and my brothers
were living with me in my house in
Morgan Lancaster
because they thought like he's gonna do
something bad to himself and [Music]
[Music]
before that a little bit before this I
had this first time ever had this
anxiety attack and a panic attack at the
same time
that day
before the everything else
this was a day that I was going to die
for sure like I thought it was on a
heart attack where were you I was I went
out with me mate Dave all day we're just
doing normal jobs because at this time I
wasn't boxing I was fat as anything I
was I was unwell so we made David come
down and take me out for the day and
just like he he does like uh windows and
doors and conservatories and stuff and
we just drive around and like he'd go
like giving his uh quotations and stuff
and seeing the customers and whatever
and I'd just go around for the for the
banter with him for the day and I
remember we went out and I I dropped him
back off at ease
and Paris had told me he said right it
is five minutes away
so I thought he made Davis he was only
he lives two miles from mine and as I
left him
like a cartoon
and I was thinking what the [ __ ] is this
like I was thinking
I can't make it back home
I'm not gonna make this home and like
everything was like in cartoon type
world yeah and I was thinking wow
I've got to pull over I've got I was
thinking like I've gotta pull over I
can't see and then me my may I vision
went to like looking through a tube like this
this
so I I was in a in the car I pulled it
over and I'm right in the middle of the
road it was a big high curb like that
and I tried pulling him banging this big
eye curb
and if I can't pull over here gotta pull
over a bit further so I've got got past
the like the McDonald's I drive past
pulled into the first lay-by
I remember
pulling up and break up jumping out the
car and throwing the keys down the road
I like her set off running
I'm like what the [ __ ] is going on this
is this is the crazy Moment by the way
I pulled this car over
still moving I pulled down break up
jumped out the door type of thing as
it's still going he's out threw him down
the street
and set off running down the footpath away
away
and I'm thinking
[ __ ] you doing go get your keys you've
left your keys in the middle of Road run
back got the keys
and then I'm running down the road again and
and
I can feel my heart like I've had a
heart attack I've had a stroke may I
have my vision's gone
I can't breathe I'm dying and I'm thinking
thinking
I'm walking I'm I'm literally waiting to
die and I've been calling to God I said
please God forgive me and me sins I'm
thinking like I'm about to make me make a
a
this was hit like this was it a snow
coming back let's just say I'm dying and
at that moment after I'd set down prayers
like forgive me of these sins I was
about to to put dead yeah
after that moment the only thing I
thought about was my kids
there was no like life flashing before
me and I saw all my childhood and all
that shite this was like imminent death
100 I'm gonna die
and the only thing I thought about
before death was how many kids are going
to survive on their own
and I've really [ __ ] things up
and I'm thinking why have I not died why
haven't I died I'm not I'm having a
heart attack but I'm not dying and I
said to people walking down the streets
I'm having an attack please call an ambulance
ambulance
sweater God this is the truth you were
in such a that this is a real Mental
Health crisis this is a breakdown yes
but at the time I'm having a heart
attack I've gone blind I can't see
hardly I phoned David said Dave come and
get me quick I'm having a heart attack
and you'd had a good day with him you'd
have yeah normal day like normal
and I don't know what brought on or what
happened and he said where are you I
said I'm just around the corner from
yours come and get me I'm on the main
road he come in the car but I'd already
flagged the van down and I said to the
guy the driver please take me to the
hospital I'm having a heart attack so
jumps in this build as well and he's
like what the [ __ ] was going on mate I'm
taking Josh but I said whoa there's me
I'm jumping out with him jumped out of
that van got in his van and
and
I'm thinking he knew what was going on
because he knew he knew about panic
attacks and stuff Dave yeah
and he said to me calm down you're
having a panic attack and he was driving
slow and I said why the [ __ ] are you
driving storm of an attack you silly
bastard get to the [ __ ] hospital
he's like you're not having a heart attack
attack
you're having a panic attack I said I'm
Gonna Knock You spark out driving his
wheel I said get me to the [ __ ]
hospital I said if I asked you my best
mate I said if you tell me you're on
heart attack I'm gonna get you straight
there he's doing 30 miles an hour
he goes you don't need Hospital you need
to go for a walk
which is not what you want to hear and
I'm like okay this is it then you're
involved in this plot to kill me too
then are you oh wow you went there so
then I'm thinking right this is my best
mate in the world been my best mate for
the last 10 years
uh before this as well
yeah now I'm thinking right
this is the plot now he's trying to kill me
me
so I was thinking right he's going to
pull this fan up I'm just gonna have to
knock him out cold and I'm gonna have to
run away because he's obviously trying
to kill me he's going to try and push me
in a river or when he takes me on this walk
walk
he's gonna try and do me
so I'm thinking all these things I said Dave
Dave
I said do you know he'd try anything out
on me I said I'm gonna do you he's like
what are you talking about I said I've
told you to take me to the hospital and
you want to take me on a walk
I said you are trying to kill me
and it's like right I'm taking to the hospital
hospital
anyway he's putting the radio on I'm
thinking I can hear voices in the radio
speaking to me I was like proper gun I
got to the hospital
I don't run into the hospital and I said
to the people I said check me out I said
someone's drugged me or I've had a heart attack
attack
I said take me blood now I said I might
have Anthrax in my system so this is
what I'm thinking all these crazy things
see but see I'm struck when you describe
it as crazy because that to me as you
describe it it's just somebody's
seriously unwell yeah you know like you
won't describe somebody with cancer as
being crazy do you know what I mean like
this was the most terrifying experience
yes I've ever ever experienced
I've ran into a hospital full of people
the heavyweight champion of the world
people know everybody knows me in the
room I don't like asking them up to
check my system because I think I've
ever had a heart attack or I've been
drugged seriously drugged
because it nothing made sense it was so
only rational yeah yeah erratic I didn't
know what was going on and this all
happened before you then had the
incident where you considered driving
into the bridge
around about the same kind of time yeah
but this is before actually before
you've sought
this is after that bridge I believe yeah
yeah before you've gone to ask for help
yeah yeah this is after that bridge moment
moment and
and
the doctors said sit down check me blood
checked everything out monitors on EG
whatever they are all over me
he said you've not had a heart attack
you're totally fine there's no drugs in
your system
but you need to calm down the heartbeat
was going like 300 some a minute
and he said you're gonna you don't count
that you are gonna have a heart attack
so whenever you give me these pills to
take calm down you're totally fine and
the doctor had doctor come in and spoke
to me and he said like
have you got a lot of stress going on in
your life I said yeah
this on the other loads of things going
on at the time it was like I was
supposed to be preparing for Vladimir
let's go rematch imagine going in the
ring with him after this while this is
all going on
they're trying to take me belts off me
they want me to fight and I'm trying to
barely survive to survive to live
I've got my managers and all that yeah
people around me trying to get me to go
back fighting and I'm I'm trying to
and so I had a lot of stuff going on I
had court cases going on people trying
to sue me because I'm out the ring and
I'm not fighting
prescribe me with these medications [Music]
[Music] um
and I've always been against like taking
medication and stuff like
my granddad was always on pills all his
life and
I don't think it helped him to be fair
and anyway they give me this bag full of
pills and anyway went back to the house
and I said to me dad look
I still wasn't I wasn't right I said
I've someone's tried to kill me today
I said
someone is trying to kill me
I said I've heard all voices in the radio
radio
my dad's like oh my God oh my God he's
he's concentrating on what I'm saying
but obviously he thinks scary for them
and we all sat downstairs in the front
room on the floor this is our scam
heavyweight champion for the world 27
years old and I'm sleeping downstairs in
the house with me Dad and me brothers
because I'm absolutely terrified I'd go
to all the windows and doors and check
them all bolt and everything and
barricade all the door um
um
why are you doing this like who are you
afraid of who's coming
he doesn't like thinking someone might
be coming for him
but he's in there when you're describing
it like like
the fact that you've repeated this out
was the heavyweight champion of the
world and you go that's the Gypsy King
talking yeah you're actually a 27 year
old seriously yeah
so this time I'm still
don't know what's going on like
I think I'm having a heart attack a stroke
stroke
I was in a severely very bad part of my life
life
and the last thing on my mind was boxing
or anything like that um
and from then it was like
I need to I need to see some doctors if
they're gonna have I'm gonna have to go
on medication I'm gonna have to do it
whatever's gonna be the remedy for this
I have to do hmm and
and
I remember that like a few days had gone
by and I felt
back not 100 but I felt back like not
not
Panic attacker node
and I remember like saying parasol let's
just book a little holiday away for the
family me and you and the kids let's go
away for a few days a week
let's go to my favorite place south of
France it's always been like a special
place for me
I remember going there and as soon as I
got there
it started again
anxiety like mad
was after two days and she's at this car
up and we have to go
I was dead against taking these pills
but she was carrying them with her yeah
and I was out two two nights two days
I'd not slept I was like maybe like
looking through the windows and stuff
checking the doors and
so scared and on that the third day of
having no sleep I was so tired but I
wouldn't go to sleep wouldn't it
wouldn't let me switch I was praying to
God I said please let me go to sleep
please let me go to sleep
two days two nights no sleeping just
like constantly working man going
all through the night
I said to Paris give me them pills
and I took these pills and I just went
push out like I like
and it felt like the best sleep ever
and I'll win the next day we flew back
and that was that was it that was when I
went and got the I got some people to
got meet them so tell us about what
moment that surrender then when you've
decided you've hit rock bottom and you
know that you need you need help you
can't do it on your own you're not
Superman tell us about that moment when
you go like what did you ask for I just
wanted I just wanted knowledge I started
researching on the internet outside
watching videos
I I spoke to some um quite a few people
Dr psychiatrists all these people and
like I said the first day one day with
me darling Brothers
and I think to myself this is not going
to be for me that's telling this man all
my problem me Dad's there listening to
me as well and I'm I'm like why did you
feel the need to go with them as opposed
to going on your own I just felt like I
didn't know what to expect and like they
wasn't going to leave me it was just
like this was a problem like something's
going to happen with him I imagine how
scared they was like
having the responsibility of having this
giant person
who's very unwell and about to do some
damage to himself
right so I went there
um that sort of explained it over a
period of time that a normal person's
life might be like this on a graph but
your life is like this and
and
anyway after speaking to him and going
back and forth after the first day I was
like I'm probably not going to go back
there but by the time Friday it was
coming I was like I can't wait to go
back here now I'm looking forward to
this it was like I was going on holiday
or something and what was it that was
happening in those meetings that that
moved you to that it was just I suppose
the education of what was going on and
they explained to me what was happening and
and
it was so refreshing to know that I
wasn't on my own up there and this
wasn't some disease that only I had yeah
and that it was controllable
controllable
because I thought I was
only on my way to a padded room and
nothing else ever was ever going to
happen to me
I thought I was gonna have a straight
jacket on in a padded room somewhere and
I was gonna go like cuckoo cuckoo that
sort of feeling and I was terrified I'm
not a barbarous or ashamed to say that I
was more scared than a four-year-old girl
girl
um at these moments and
and
it was the most terrifying frightening
experience I've ever had in my life
and I hope to God I never have to go
back there and I'm not quite in a short
I'm not quite any short I've got plenty
of time
same time
I went
um we seeked out the best
psychologist in this country yep
so we drove there made me Dad
we weren't seen this lady
um she had a big file of papers like
that we spent like two hours in a room
she was asking me questions taking Mark
and all this sort of stuff
um when it had finished she said oh
that's done now Tyson can I have a world
with you John
and she said to me dad he's very high
suicide risk
and she said because he's got faith in God
God
if he didn't have that he would have
killed himself already
and he needs watching at all times type
of thing so can you imagine that
and in that about a couple of days goes
by and we got this like report back and
everything to do all the tests I mean
all sort of stuff and I come back with
bipolar disorder
um anxiety paranoia
paranoia
or there was a load of other things LCD
uh was it good for you for the first
time in your whole Clarity for someone
to say this is what you've got this is
it like
these are going to be your medication
I also could think of was my Grandad who
had to take these blue pills every day
forever right
I'm done thinking I'm [ __ ] [ __ ] here
here
I don't know what's going to happen I'm
gonna be
drooling on the mouth in a rocking chair
back and forward [Music]
[Music]
and anyway
that wasn't the turning point for me
this is gonna sound
mud but after all it's even seen these
doctors going and being assessed by the
leading person in the country
and downloading all the information in
my mind and all that
I suppose the turning point was this all
are the big influence on the turning
point I would say because after having
this Clarity and understanding a bit
more what was going on and knowing that
there's a lot of people out there in
this boat too this is an effect yeah so
the turning point was I speak about it
in my first book and I spoke about it
very clear
and very openly
and I was out I went out after all this
I still decided to go out because I
wasn't right
I still was very unwell
and I went out for beers because
because
believe it or not every time I'd had
four or five pints
I didn't have any problems there was no
ailments I was I felt fine I didn't have
any mental health didn't have depression
and I wasn't anxious
so I'm not feeling good I'm going to go
out I'm going to have a few beers I'm
gonna come back and get to bed how soon
is this after this diagnosis in good
this was like
suppose a good one would have been
earlier on
um like late maybe
September August September
and when the Philippines late September
and this night it was Halloween night
2017 right 31st of October
I goes out here in Lancaster and as
Yates says it was not yates's anymore
and I went out dressed as a skeleton
glow in the dark because I was
embarrassed of people had a full face
mask on as if people wasn't gonna know
it was me seven foot guy walking around Morgan
Morgan
yeah I was embarrassed I wouldn't take
my mask off I was drinking it through a
mask there's beer
and I looked around myself
and I saw all these young people
at the beginning of their life because
Lancaster's a University Town
and all these students all dressed up as
as whatever they was
fancy dress
at this moment I only had this much off
the top of a pint I've had this Moment
of clarity and Sanity and everything was
like so crystal clear to me
I was like wow
it's like I'd been asleep and I'd woke up
and I said what the [ __ ] are you doing here
here
with all these kids I've probably only
been 28 myself at the time
you've had the world in your arms you
prick I just want thinking to myself I
hope you don't mind swearing on this podcast
podcast
I know you've chucked it all away
to come and drink a beer in Yates as in
Morecambe Lancaster
go home right now this is I'm thinking
myself in my mind
put the panda bear down straight home
comes in about nine o'clock Paris is
thinking he's gonna go out all night and
coming back type of thing
so don't she said who's that said it's me
me
went upstairs took my skeleton suit off
I remember
getting down on my knees praying to God
I remember reading George Foreman's
automography years ago oh yeah and he
said in it like when he's his nephew got
diagnosed ill with illness he got down
on his knees and he prayed to God and it
helped it worked so I thought I'm going
to do that I've always been
a believer in Christianity and stuff
like I've always practiced it and always
followed it and all that sort of stuff
and any tiny time trouble would happen
I'd always turn to God for help
and I remember getting upstairs I was in
The Underpants fat as [ __ ] 28 stone Plus
and I remember calling out to God I was
crying again I'm a proper crier
um I could feel all my chest all wet and
I felt like I was down there for an
eternity but I probably wasn't I've
probably only down there for like 10 minutes
minutes
and I got up to me fee and I just felt
like a Welter away I felt like I was 10
stone in weight
I felt like the weight of the world
was lifted off my shoulders
and for the first time in nearly three years
years
I knew what I was gonna do
and I called out to Paris like a child
at Christmas Paris
she said what
tomorrow we start the regain mission
and she wasn't
she didn't believe me because I talked
about this every time I had a few beers
and I come back and be Heavyweight
Championship because I wasn't unwell one
had a few beers I was totally fine just drunk
drunk
but obviously the boy who cried wolf a
million times nobody believes it and the
next day I'd get up and obviously not do it
it
well this time I wasn't drunk and I
meant it and I knew
but all the obstacles in my life
were about to be moved
I remember saying to God
I said please God
I said if there's a way back to boxing
I said this is where I want to be
I want to come back to boxing
if there's any possible way
that you can bring me back to boxing
that's what I want to be
and at that time
I had I was 10 nil down before kickoff
I had a drug case going on where you cut
which turned out to be a lot of [ __ ]
is that the bullmate one yeah yeah I had
I elevated levels and angelon in my
system right another shot
I also had suspension from the boxing
border control
RIT off by the top woman in the country
absolutely disabled nearly what were those
those
huh what were the what were they good
enough they suspended me license my
license was gone under mental health
right right you couldn't legally fight
in this situation it was done
so our that the the case where you cut I
had no license from the boxer border
control I'm I'm deemed medically unfit
by the leading woman in the country
28 stone in weight
hearing voices in my mind still at that
moment that time yeah
and couldn't sleep at night without the
lights on in the bedroom
even then even then
but I woke after that day after that moment
moment
I knew that all them obstacles
were going to be moved gone
and umpire said you can't box even if
you wanted to even if he was 18 Stone
right now he got box there's too much
going on I said everything's gonna be
all right don't worry I'm going to
become World Heavyweight Champion again
the next day I've got I even got the
video on my phone and I'm going to show
you in a minute yeah I'd love to see it
the next day the video of what the video
of the Turning Point can we well I'll
show you in a minute yeah um
um
I guess means right suit on
and I was gonna go for a run down the
canal near mine obviously I couldn't run
I was too heavy I didn't know that at
the time
and I couldn't run half a mile
so I started walking
and I'm scrolling down Instagram as I
was walking and I saw a video of Deontay Wilder
Wilder saying
saying
I saw Tyson Fury recently and he's a
mess he's a fat whatever and he's never
coming back and it's such a travesty
that this fight didn't happen
I was thinking
you know what mate I'm going back and
I'm knocking you out and I remember
calling Ben Davidson on that day because
I worked with Ben earlier on before the
panic attack for one of Billy Joe's
fights in Spain
and I called Ben and I said Ben
I said I want you to train me and I'm
going to come back and I'm going to get
my license and I'm gonna think it's
going to be all right and he was like
you've got all this going on in your
life like probably not a good time I
said I promise you it's all gonna go
away quite quickly and everything's
gonna be all right and I'm going to get
back and I'm going to get back boxing
and I did yeah now can I ask you here
because I'm I see your career in two
parts the first part
and then the second one two careers but
you've described how on that first
career you were obsessive about becoming
the heavyweight champion of the world
and you almost ignored all these mental
health challenges and all the other
stuff that eventually caused this crash
so you've had this sense of Mission to
get there and yet it's the same sense of
mission that you now decide and he's
going to lift you out of the dark place
you're in yeah what were you doing differently on the second mission then
differently on the second mission then that was going to avoid the same crash
that was going to avoid the same crash I felt like I had the experience
I felt like I had the experience and the know-how
and the know-how to overcome the challenges
to overcome the challenges and this is gonna sound strange as if
and this is gonna sound strange as if this fall interview wasn't already
while I Was preparing to fight Safa Safari
Safari in Manchester he's back
in Manchester he's back we'll get I've sort of skipped a little
we'll get I've sort of skipped a little bit anyway
bit anyway the boxing border control before this
the boxing border control before this they said to me right you want to come
they said to me right you want to come back great
back great if you can get made medically fit Again
if you can get made medically fit Again by the same person he wrote you off
by the same person he wrote you off before
before we'll give you a license but I was
we'll give you a license but I was thinking never in a million years so I
thinking never in a million years so I had to get all that the court case went
had to get all that the court case went away
away they decided it wasn't gonna fulfill it
they decided it wasn't gonna fulfill it any longer and so overnight bang within
any longer and so overnight bang within a week
a week no court case
went sold psychiatrist person again and I was totally fine
and I was totally fine stamped approved the boxing border
stamped approved the boxing border control revoked reinstated me license
control revoked reinstated me license then I also needed to do was lose some
then I also needed to do was lose some weight
weight sort of in a short space of time
sort of in a short space of time I'd gone from having no hope at all
I'd gone from having no hope at all to being just fat and mentally unwell
to being just fat and mentally unwell still and skipping forward again back to
still and skipping forward again back to the Safa Safari fight
the Safa Safari fight like I was still very unwell but I knew
like I was still very unwell but I knew I had a mission to do and I knew that
I had a mission to do and I knew that the only way back to happiness for me
the only way back to happiness for me was through training and unboxing and
was through training and unboxing and the more I trained the better I felt and
the more I trained the better I felt and every day that went by was I was going
every day that went by was I was going to get better and better and better
to get better and better and better and
and I'd have very good days and very very
I'd have very good days and very very bad days
bad days and if you ever get Ben Davidson ask him
and if you ever get Ben Davidson ask him and he'll tell you like one day I'd be
and he'll tell you like one day I'd be great in the next three days I'd be down
great in the next three days I'd be down and I remember saying like
and I remember saying like we need to go over somewhere where it's
we need to go over somewhere where it's got sunshine because Sunshine makes you
got sunshine because Sunshine makes you feel happy and being in Morgan in the
feel happy and being in Morgan in the winter is sad
winter is sad and we said right Paris was pregnant
and we said right Paris was pregnant with a
with a alcoholic I don't know how many kids
alcoholic I don't know how many kids we've got like I think she was like
we've got like I think she was like fourth child Valencia
fourth child Valencia and she was born on the 4th of December
and she was born on the 4th of December we'd been training in Morcom for about
we'd been training in Morcom for about a month I'd say then obviously Paris was
a month I'd say then obviously Paris was gonna have their baby
gonna have their baby and we said right as soon as she has the
and we said right as soon as she has the baby Christmas out the way will go to
baby Christmas out the way will go to Spain training with a guy better son on
Spain training with a guy better son on us and that will help with the weight
us and that will help with the weight loss positivity everything
loss positivity everything so we had the baby three or four days
so we had the baby three or four days later we're all in the car on the way to
later we're all in the car on the way to Spain Paris as well Paris as well with
Spain Paris as well Paris as well with the baby full family is going I mean
the baby full family is going I mean brother you he's coming with his new
brother you he's coming with his new wife he made Matthew James's coming with
wife he made Matthew James's coming with his full family we meet Dave and he's
his full family we meet Dave and he's full family we've got a right team all
full family we've got a right team all coming to support this this
coming to support this this be a training company yeah lovely but I
be a training company yeah lovely but I was still 26 Stone 10.
was still 26 Stone 10. because I've not lost that much weight
because I've not lost that much weight I've had Christmas I've had [ __ ] I had a
I've had Christmas I've had [ __ ] I had a lot of weight to shift and we went over
lot of weight to shift and we went over to Spain we got there on
to Spain we got there on uh
uh 27th of December
27th of December and we started camp
and we started camp and
and I lost so much weight
I lost so much weight I lost like
I lost like just under five Stone in
just under five Stone in a few months being over there but on the
a few months being over there but on the way there it was so hard because I
way there it was so hard because I wanted to quit so many times
wanted to quit so many times a sad phone them and say right polophy
a sad phone them and say right polophy now boys let's just go to Disneyland
now boys let's just go to Disneyland I'll pay you for what you've done and at
I'll pay you for what you've done and at the same for me I don't want a box like
the same for me I don't want a box like I can't do this I knew what was coming
I can't do this I knew what was coming the hard journey
the hard journey so why did you do that I had so why
so why did you do that I had so why didn't you stop talking me into it like
didn't you stop talking me into it like once you get there it's gonna be all
once you get there it's gonna be all right and you're going to train and
right and you're going to train and everything's gonna be better again and
everything's gonna be better again and it was a team effort a real team effort
it was a team effort a real team effort like
like I remember Ben saying to people like
I remember Ben saying to people like if I could just came to Spain
if I could just came to Spain we're gonna get there but whatever we
we're gonna get there but whatever we got I must have found 10 times on the
got I must have found 10 times on the way there to say let's turn back I can't
way there to say let's turn back I can't be bothered
be bothered Boston as I saw the sunshine come up
Boston as I saw the sunshine come up like I got down right to the south of
like I got down right to the south of Spain and started coming up the sunshine
Spain and started coming up the sunshine I was like
I was like I'm happy I found him up right we're
I'm happy I found him up right we're gonna do this guys they're like oh my
gonna do this guys they're like oh my God this guy's lunatic so he gets there
God this guy's lunatic so he gets there and every day I'm happy sad happy sad
and every day I'm happy sad happy sad perseverance perseverance and I'm
perseverance perseverance and I'm thinking right just gonna get through
thinking right just gonna get through the day one day at a time one day at a
the day one day at a time one day at a time one day at a time I'm seeing the
time one day at a time I'm seeing the scale come down come down
scale come down come down and the whole time I was I was training
and the whole time I was I was training for that fight I was sleeping with the
for that fight I was sleeping with the lights on
lights on still anxious
[Music] medication was training at this moment
medication was training at this moment right and
right and eating well training drinking plenty of
eating well training drinking plenty of water and vitamins and all that and I
water and vitamins and all that and I started to feel better and better every
started to feel better and better every day that went by I felt better and
day that went by I felt better and better and better
better and better um and it come I I think it was like the
um and it come I I think it was like the end of December
end of December until the 15th of June I'd lost all the
until the 15th of June I'd lost all the weight I was back down to like 19 Stone
weight I was back down to like 19 Stone odd and I was having my first fight back
odd and I was having my first fight back in Manchester
um in 30 31 months or something like that it was a long long period of time
that it was a long long period of time and I remember thinking right this
and I remember thinking right this career
career is going to be so much different to
is going to be so much different to before
before I'm going to enjoy it before it wasn't
I'm going to enjoy it before it wasn't enjoyable like
enjoyable like pre-clitschko it was wasn't an enjoyable
pre-clitschko it was wasn't an enjoyable career
career it was just so much pressure on me to
it was just so much pressure on me to deliver what I was saying become
deliver what I was saying become heavyweight champion of the world
heavyweight champion of the world everyone's looking up to me wait to the
everyone's looking up to me wait to the world of my shoulders I'm carrying it
world of my shoulders I'm carrying it for everybody
for everybody and it was just so much pressure
and it was just so much pressure and it wasn't enjoyable it was it was
and it wasn't enjoyable it was it was horrible
horrible climb Elevate to the top yeah but for
climb Elevate to the top yeah but for the second career
the second career I've got a new trainer who's Young
I've got a new trainer who's Young I've got a new team everyone's on the
I've got a new team everyone's on the same it's not like slug slugs like it's
same it's not like slug slugs like it's about being happy and everyone's
about being happy and everyone's laughing and it's so good and camps and
laughing and it's so good and camps and stuff and
stuff and I'm gonna take every moment in and I'm
I'm gonna take every moment in and I'm going to enjoy every single minute of it
going to enjoy every single minute of it and
and I have done I have done
I have done I have done it's almost like that first career was
it's almost like that first career was all about the outcome it was all about
all about the outcome it was all about the Klitschko fight yeah it was all
the Klitschko fight yeah it was all about scaling the mountain yeah and
about scaling the mountain yeah and maybe you've now realized particularly
maybe you've now realized particularly after the journey you've been through
after the journey you've been through and the things you've experienced that
and the things you've experienced that it isn't about the outcome it isn't
it isn't about the outcome it isn't about the destination it is about the
about the destination it is about the process it's about the journey the
process it's about the journey the journey this is it like this is what
journey this is it like this is what it's what life is us sitting here having
it's what life is us sitting here having this conversation this is all part of
this conversation this is all part of the journey is the best thing have you
the journey is the best thing have you ever like been on a road trip on the way
ever like been on a road trip on the way there it's fantastic when you get there
there it's fantastic when you get there you're there and you know you're coming
you're there and you know you're coming back and on the way back it's terrible
back and on the way back it's terrible isn't it yeah all about the journey also
isn't it yeah all about the journey also who is more likely to get to the
who is more likely to get to the destination the person who loves the
destination the person who loves the journey and loves what they're doing or
journey and loves what they're doing or the person who's only fixated on
the person who's only fixated on that moment in the distance of course
that moment in the distance of course the person that loves the journey
the person that loves the journey completes the journey don't know I have
completes the journey don't know I have to disagree do you think because
to disagree do you think because I think something's only achievable if
I think something's only achievable if you've got a destination Target like if
you've got a destination Target like if you're just going along for the Bulls
you're just going along for the Bulls are like oh whatever happens happens in
are like oh whatever happens happens in your life I think it's very hard to hit
your life I think it's very hard to hit something the dangerous if you don't you
something the dangerous if you don't you did get the target you got the Klitschko
did get the target you got the Klitschko fight yeah the risk is if you for
fight yeah the risk is if you for someone that doesn't get what they want
someone that doesn't get what they want to get if they also don't enjoy the
to get if they also don't enjoy the journey and the view isn't worth the
journey and the view isn't worth the climb like what are you left with then
climb like what are you left with then well the way I like to explain this is
well the way I like to explain this is if you know what you want in your life
if you know what you want in your life first of all right
first of all right you've got to figure out what you want
you've got to figure out what you want if you know what you want
if you know what you want no matter how far you are away from this
no matter how far you are away from this target
target eventually you're going to hit this
eventually you're going to hit this target or you're going to get very close
target or you're going to get very close to it
to it if I've got a gun and I'm trying to
if I've got a gun and I'm trying to shoot a Target it's a mile away and I'm
shoot a Target it's a mile away and I'm sniperating and I'm miles off
sniperating and I'm miles off but I keep shooting towards that Target
but I keep shooting towards that Target bang bang bang bang bang eventually ping
bang bang bang bang bang eventually ping I'm gonna wit it but imagine I'm just
I'm gonna wit it but imagine I'm just shooting over there I'm shooting nothing
shooting over there I'm shooting nothing what am I gonna ever eat [ __ ] off
what am I gonna ever eat [ __ ] off so you got you gotta have a Target so
so you got you gotta have a Target so what's your Target now
what's your Target now my Target now
my Target now is to enjoy every every single day that
is to enjoy every every single day that comes
comes like I don't have a Target anymore like
like I don't have a Target anymore like I've done everything I wanted to do in
I've done everything I wanted to do in my life
my life times a million and does that worry you
times a million and does that worry you because that was part of the source of
because that was part of the source of your mental health struggles yeah
your mental health struggles yeah so now I'm fixated I'm fascinated on
so now I'm fixated I'm fascinated on taking one day at a time and living
taking one day at a time and living every moment
every moment because I know once I walk out of that
because I know once I walk out of that door This Moment's gone forever
door This Moment's gone forever located back on the TV but like we lived
located back on the TV but like we lived here today yeah and we enjoyed it and
here today yeah and we enjoyed it and this was our time
this was our time and I've actually grew an obsession with
and I've actually grew an obsession with time
time gone absolutely obsessed with time and
gone absolutely obsessed with time and owning it and living it and and being
owning it and living it and and being very very very In This Moment
very very very In This Moment because I know I've lived a lot of my
because I know I've lived a lot of my life focusing on a future event
life focusing on a future event and I know I've missed out on a lot of
and I know I've missed out on a lot of stuff that was happening that was a
stuff that was happening that was a reality that I had no interest in I
reality that I had no interest in I didn't pay any attention to because I
didn't pay any attention to because I was only fascinated fixated on Klitschko
was only fascinated fixated on Klitschko and beating him become an heavyweight
and beating him become an heavyweight champion
champion since then
since then it's all about living in this moment for
it's all about living in this moment for the journey yeah and being in
the journey yeah and being in being here right now I'm not thinking
being here right now I'm not thinking about going to the gym in a bit I'm not
about going to the gym in a bit I'm not thinking about what's going to happen
thinking about what's going to happen next week or going on holiday next year
next week or going on holiday next year or Christmas I'm thinking about what I'm
or Christmas I'm thinking about what I'm doing right now and I'm enjoying it
doing right now and I'm enjoying it and that's how I live my life now
and that's how I live my life now short-term goals being present is being
short-term goals being present is being present for sure
present for sure short-term goals
short-term goals no matter what it is how small they are
no matter what it is how small they are or how big they are so how do you set
or how big they are so how do you set your day up now then talk us through a
your day up now then talk us through a typical day now for Tyson so I have a
typical day now for Tyson so I have a very structured routine life and I find
very structured routine life and I find that works for me being a mental health
that works for me being a mental health patient
patient and one I've got nothing to do no
and one I've got nothing to do no targets no short-term goals no nothing
targets no short-term goals no nothing it's like pissing in the wind for me
it's like pissing in the wind for me it's a disastrous moment
it's a disastrous moment so I know every single day I'm getting
so I know every single day I'm getting up at six o'clock in the morning
up at six o'clock in the morning I'm gonna get showered and messed around
I'm gonna get showered and messed around do all that sort of stuff I'm getting
do all that sort of stuff I'm getting the kids apart of bed I'm taking them to
the kids apart of bed I'm taking them to school I'm going to feed the dog take
school I'm going to feed the dog take him for a walk
him for a walk and after the school I'm gonna go for a
and after the school I'm gonna go for a run and the Promenade three or four mile
run and the Promenade three or four mile I'm gonna come back I'm gonna have some
I'm gonna come back I'm gonna have some breakfast I'm gonna do me daily jobs
breakfast I'm gonna do me daily jobs whether it's taking the bins or paying
whether it's taking the bins or paying some bills or tidying up and doing some
some bills or tidying up and doing some weeding whatever I'm doing
weeding whatever I'm doing and then I'm going to pick the kids up
and then I'm going to pick the kids up from school and then I'm going to go to
from school and then I'm going to go to the gym at four o'clock I'm going to
the gym at four o'clock I'm going to train for maybe an hour and a half two
train for maybe an hour and a half two hours come back shower up get me tea
hours come back shower up get me tea relax get to bed early nine o'clock half
relax get to bed early nine o'clock half nine I'm out cold
nine I'm out cold that's every day and then weekends
that's every day and then weekends I'll do the training alternate trainings
I'll do the training alternate trainings and stuff like that on the the other
and stuff like that on the the other days it's Tuesday Wednesday but it's
days it's Tuesday Wednesday but it's very routine mundane lifestyle and on
very routine mundane lifestyle and on the weekend Saturday I'll do a nice long
the weekend Saturday I'll do a nice long run in the morning six mile or maybe a
run in the morning six mile or maybe a hill run or something
hill run or something and I'll I'll take the family out of
and I'll I'll take the family out of something to eat or whatever and then
something to eat or whatever and then Sunday
Sunday is a horrible day for me
is a horrible day for me like
like I have no routine on a Sunday you know
I have no routine on a Sunday you know it's me day off of eating writing all up
it's me day off of eating writing all up so I can basically eat what I want and
so I can basically eat what I want and we like to go out for a Sunday dinner or
we like to go out for a Sunday dinner or or go to church but after that after
or go to church but after that after that one o'clock ish two o'clock time
that one o'clock ish two o'clock time it's very boring for me and I cannot
it's very boring for me and I cannot wait to get back to that Millstone on
wait to get back to that Millstone on Monday morning
Monday morning I mean Dad says to me the other day he's
I mean Dad says to me the other day he's like
like after everything you've achieved in your
after everything you've achieved in your life and everything you could do in your
life and everything you could do in your life
life and how hard you've worked
and how hard you've worked the only thing you like to do is stay
the only thing you like to do is stay here in morecam and train train train
here in morecam and train train train train train and do the same thing every
train train and do the same thing every day I said yes that's exactly what I
day I said yes that's exactly what I love to do because it makes you happy
love to do because it makes you happy because it makes me happy and you know
because it makes me happy and you know when I have to go out of my comfort zone
when I have to go out of my comfort zone like going going somewhere or doing a
like going going somewhere or doing a tour or going going away from Morgan it
tour or going going away from Morgan it takes me out of my routine me training
takes me out of my routine me training twice a day be eating the same things go
twice a day be eating the same things go in the same places
in the same places I'm like um The Truman Show
I'm like um The Truman Show everything's the same
everything's the same I'm being filmed at the moment by
I'm being filmed at the moment by Netflix for a 10 part 10 series docue
Netflix for a 10 part 10 series docue series with my old friend Demi Doyle
series with my old friend Demi Doyle yeah Dave for our first job and Telly
yeah Dave for our first job and Telly you know a long time ago did you yeah
you know a long time ago did you yeah yeah it's great
yeah it's great [Music]
[Music] and these people are like
and these people are like this man
this man lives
lives very basic hold on a minute they've paid
very basic hold on a minute they've paid all this money for a dog series they're
all this money for a dog series they're thinking yeah where's where's the story
thinking yeah where's where's the story this is the money in your account here
this is the money in your account here before you even be with us
before you even be with us however hey guys we're doing the same as
however hey guys we're doing the same as yesterday it's like they're gonna film
yesterday it's like they're gonna film me in the gym they're going to film me
me in the gym they're going to film me on a run they're gonna film me taking
on a run they're gonna film me taking the kids to school walking the dog
the kids to school walking the dog but it's interesting for these because
but it's interesting for these because I think the viewing people I was going
I think the viewing people I was going to watch this I think in like oh the
to watch this I think in like oh the World Heavyweight Champion is famous
World Heavyweight Champion is famous boxer who everybody knows everywhere he
boxer who everybody knows everywhere he goes must be living this big luxurious
goes must be living this big luxurious life and and all of a sudden they see me
life and and all of a sudden they see me picking up dog [ __ ] and taking the bins
picking up dog [ __ ] and taking the bins up and down and messing around doing all
up and down and messing around doing all these things and living this very very
these things and living this very very normal life
normal life um it's got to be an experience but
um it's got to be an experience but again
again I
I I live a very basic
I live a very basic routine life because I know what the
routine life because I know what the other side's like
other side's like so I know if I have
so I know if I have feel at stake every day and go out for
feel at stake every day and go out for cocktails how long is that going to last
cocktails how long is that going to last before I'm absolutely sick and suicidal
before I'm absolutely sick and suicidal of it yeah people say oh if I want the
of it yeah people say oh if I want the lottery I do this and do that
lottery I do this and do that but they don't think of the consequences
but they don't think of the consequences that it's all gonna
that it's all gonna take the effect is coming off on the
take the effect is coming off on the individual
individual and the effects are shocking
and the effects are shocking how long can you go on a holiday for an
how long can you go on a holiday for an all-inclusive holiday until you're
all-inclusive holiday until you're absolutely sick of looking at it me two
absolutely sick of looking at it me two days and I can't wait to get out of
days and I can't wait to get out of there well some people might be able to
there well some people might be able to do it for a week two weeks even
do it for a week two weeks even but imagine a bit and having nothing to
but imagine a bit and having nothing to do in your life and just doing that
do in your life and just doing that every single day
every single day like I have to live routined it brings
like I have to live routined it brings happiness
happiness and I don't know how long my body will
and I don't know how long my body will be able to pull up with a wear and tear
be able to pull up with a wear and tear like I sit here today as a battered
like I sit here today as a battered person to bits and operation elbows
person to bits and operation elbows I mean joints are wore out with all the
I mean joints are wore out with all the training over the years and a
training over the years and a heavyweight battering the roads and
heavyweight battering the roads and punching things to pieces and all the
punching things to pieces and all the fights I've had on all the sparring on
fights I've had on all the sparring on all the camps and everything
all the camps and everything but I know that
but I know that I have to continue I have to continue
I have to continue I have to continue because the day I stopped training the
because the day I stopped training the day I die
day I die see but that's where for me like there's
see but that's where for me like there's warning lights here Tyson that like
warning lights here Tyson that like because
because you've been around it like I have you've
you've been around it like I have you've seen loads and lots that have said um
seen loads and lots that have said um when I get out that's me doing I'm never
when I get out that's me doing I'm never gonna look back I've just experienced it
gonna look back I've just experienced it and how many do you get that then get
and how many do you get that then get tempted when the you know when the when
tempted when the you know when the when the spotlight moves to somebody else
the spotlight moves to somebody else when the the circus moves to a new town
when the the circus moves to a new town and you're there then in that routine
and you're there then in that routine Netflix or not filming you you're stuck
Netflix or not filming you you're stuck in that routine and you're thinking I
in that routine and you're thinking I could do one more fight I've got one
could do one more fight I've got one more person taking me on how are you
more person taking me on how are you going to avoid that well I I've
going to avoid that well I I've obviously failed drastically
obviously failed drastically because I retired back in April and I
because I retired back in April and I would have passed any polygraph test in
would have passed any polygraph test in the world any lie detector
the world any lie detector I wholeheartedly meant it so this wasn't
I wholeheartedly meant it so this wasn't another Gypsy King no stunt this was a
another Gypsy King no stunt this was a genuine this was genuine hand on heart
genuine this was genuine hand on heart swear to God in Jesus name
swear to God in Jesus name I meant retirement I did not want a box
I meant retirement I did not want a box I in fact I don't want a box now
I in fact I don't want a box now I'm going to get to that in a minute
I'm going to get to that in a minute I did not want to fight on anymore like
I did not want to fight on anymore like I wanted to retire after a while to
I wanted to retire after a while to three
three like coming out of that ring and feeling
like coming out of that ring and feeling like I was gonna have a brain injury had
like I was gonna have a brain injury had lumps on the side of my head like Fists
lumps on the side of my head like Fists memory loss you had didn't you memory
memory loss you had didn't you memory loss can't remember anything didn't know
loss can't remember anything didn't know how many times I've been down didn't
how many times I've been down didn't know and that was the first time that's
know and that was the first time that's happened yeah didn't know where I was
happened yeah didn't know where I was yeah that's a warning sign not to ignore
yeah that's a warning sign not to ignore isn't it I was in Vegas I didn't know
isn't it I was in Vegas I didn't know what hotel I was in didn't know where I
what hotel I was in didn't know where I was staying nothing
was staying nothing and then I said to parents like this is
and then I said to parents like this is it babe no more and I won't put you
it babe no more and I won't put you through this I'm looking outside the
through this I'm looking outside the ring I'm my wife's looks like she's
ring I'm my wife's looks like she's gonna have an heart attack my brothers
gonna have an heart attack my brothers are like
are like you know just everyone's terrified like
you know just everyone's terrified like going on the floor getting up all these
going on the floor getting up all these things getting battered to [ __ ] you just
things getting battered to [ __ ] you just never know what's going to happen yeah
never know what's going to happen yeah and I said like that's it now she said
and I said like that's it now she said thank God for that I'm very very happy
thank God for that I'm very very happy that this is done
that this is done and I meant it then as well and I got
and I meant it then as well and I got back home
back home and I thought to myself like after a
and I thought to myself like after a week of of
week of of contemplateness then it's in case I
contemplateness then it's in case I gotta fight again Paris she said why
gotta fight again Paris she said why I said because I owe it to the fans in
I said because I owe it to the fans in the UK to fight back home I've been away
the UK to fight back home I've been away since 2018. all these people have
since 2018. all these people have traveled to Las Vegas and watched a
traveled to Las Vegas and watched a pay-per-view five o'clock in the morning
pay-per-view five o'clock in the morning wouldn't it be nice I said to have one
wouldn't it be nice I said to have one more fight back at home and give
more fight back at home and give everybody an opportunity to come and see
everybody an opportunity to come and see it live one more time she said if this
it live one more time she said if this is going to be the last one I said I
is going to be the last one I said I promise you maybe this is the last one
promise you maybe this is the last one no more
no more so I called it Frank Frank Warren is as
so I called it Frank Frank Warren is as a Frank uh I know you're going to wake
a Frank uh I know you're going to wake me for this but like I want to fight
me for this but like I want to fight again so anyway we sort out a deal with
again so anyway we sort out a deal with the uh the mandatory Dylan white and
the uh the mandatory Dylan white and anyway it went on to be the biggest
anyway it went on to be the biggest biggest boxing event in in history this
biggest boxing event in in history this country 94 000 people and that was it
country 94 000 people and that was it farewell goodbye forever Adele this is
farewell goodbye forever Adele this is the end the punch that finished that
the end the punch that finished that fight it was with two spinning out on it
fight it was with two spinning out on it but 94 000 at Wembley it was an epic
but 94 000 at Wembley it was an epic moment to go why not stop then
moment to go why not stop then well this I'm going to get to that now
well this I'm going to get to that now but can I just jump in cool like I don't
but can I just jump in cool like I don't believe yeah with our due respect when
believe yeah with our due respect when you tell me about the about I want to do
you tell me about the about I want to do it for the fans
it for the fans well like why would you care do you know
well like why would you care do you know what I mean these are the same fans that
what I mean these are the same fans that like in your world you've got to tie it
like in your world you've got to tie it in a circle who you listen to you have
in a circle who you listen to you have to
to yeah the fans are nice and it's nice to
yeah the fans are nice and it's nice to play the game of engaging with the fans
play the game of engaging with the fans and things like that but that's that
and things like that but that's that wasn't the real reason I'm struggling to
wasn't the real reason I'm struggling to 100 the reason there is no other reason
100 the reason there is no other reason why though and then come back for money
why though and then come back for money because I made a lot of money out of
because I made a lot of money out of that trilogy but why would you care
that trilogy but why would you care about the fan Center
about the fan Center because when you go out that door and
because when you go out that door and walk down the street with me and you've
walk down the street with me and you've got people crying their eyes out
got people crying their eyes out suffering with mental health problems
suffering with mental health problems and all this stuff that's going on right
and all this stuff that's going on right and they look at me like a hero I'm a
and they look at me like a hero I'm a Shining Light to them and like I say
Shining Light to them and like I say these people spend hard earn money
these people spend hard earn money traveling across the Atlantic Ocean to
traveling across the Atlantic Ocean to Las Vegas
Las Vegas I'm waiting up all night to see me fight
I'm waiting up all night to see me fight in America why not owe it to the fans
in America why not owe it to the fans and give them what they want one last
and give them what they want one last time why don't you let them just come in
time why don't you let them just come in for free then and do it that way because
for free then and do it that way because I would do that I've offered to fight
I would do that I've offered to fight Joshua for free and I swear to God in
Joshua for free and I swear to God in Jesus name I'll do it but you've got
Jesus name I'll do it but you've got promoters and everybody else around you
promoters and everybody else around you that are not willing to do that
that are not willing to do that so that's why however
so that's why however that that is the only reason I came back
that that is the only reason I came back people in my mind at that time
people in my mind at that time that was it like 100 billion percent I
that was it like 100 billion percent I was happy
was happy I vacated my ring magazine belt I was
I vacated my ring magazine belt I was 100
100 certainly I I text Mauricio suleim on
certainly I I text Mauricio suleim on the head of the WBC he must think I'm a
the head of the WBC he must think I'm a raver because he must have eight
raver because he must have eight messages from me retirement messages
messages from me retirement messages for the WBC vacating it they're starting
for the WBC vacating it they're starting the other like I had no intention of
the other like I had no intention of ever fighting again
ever fighting again shh so here's what happened why am I
shh so here's what happened why am I back
back so I thought myself I've been away a
so I thought myself I've been away a long time and
missed a lot of my kids growing up I thought I'm going to spend time with my
thought I'm going to spend time with my kids I'm going to be happy with driving
kids I'm going to be happy with driving around more come I'm going to be very
around more come I'm going to be very happy going to me gym doing a bit of
happy going to me gym doing a bit of training
training and
and I just want to live a normal life I just
I just want to live a normal life I just want to be left alone
and that lasted I'd say for about two months
months and then I started thinking
I need boxing I need that fight
I need that fight I'm going to the gym twice a day
I'm going to the gym twice a day training anyway running in the morning
training anyway running in the morning boxing at night and waits the next
boxing at night and waits the next morning box that night
morning box that night trying to keep my weight down trying to
trying to keep my weight down trying to keep positive
keep positive and how long are that are you gonna do
and how long are that are you gonna do before you're ready to fight
before you're ready to fight again
again I'm seeing Joseph Parker in my gym
I'm seeing Joseph Parker in my gym fight camps
fight camps everyone's gearing up for big fights
everyone's gearing up for big fights and it's like I have an addiction I've
and it's like I have an addiction I've got addictive personality and I'm
got addictive personality and I'm clearly addicted to boxing
clearly addicted to boxing and I can't let it go and I always said
and I can't let it go and I always said to myself like how do these greats come
to myself like how do these greats come back and end up losing five six ten
back and end up losing five six ten fights at the end of the career why
fights at the end of the career why didn't you just walk away
didn't you just walk away now I know why because you can't walk
now I know why because you can't walk away you know the cost though the
away you know the cost though the physical and I know the physical risks
physical and I know the physical risks and all the costs I know everything
and all the costs I know everything however I can't live alone
however I can't live alone I'm addicted to fighting
I'm addicted to fighting and it's not even
and it's not even about anything now it's not about titles
about anything now it's not about titles it's not about achievements it's not
it's not about achievements it's not about goals money
about goals money thank God
thank God I've worked hard enough and I'm in a
I've worked hard enough and I'm in a position where money is not an object
position where money is not an object anymore
but I must be sick in the mind because I
I must be sick in the mind because I love getting punched I love punching
love getting punched I love punching but that's where the damage is it's in
but that's where the damage is it's in like the sparring where this memory loss
like the sparring where this memory loss isn't that fight with wild that that
isn't that fight with wild that that memory loss is in the camps over the
memory loss is in the camps over the years where you've been taking shots and
years where you've been taking shots and things like that so that's the
things like that so that's the cumulative effect you know it yeah so
cumulative effect you know it yeah so like the image I have I know in your
like the image I have I know in your heart that you should walk away
heart that you should walk away 100 I know that I shouldn't be boxing I
100 I know that I shouldn't be boxing I should walk away because the image I've
should walk away because the image I've got in my head is is Muhammad Ali
got in my head is is Muhammad Ali fighting Larry Helms when he's taking
fighting Larry Helms when he's taking diet pills and and it was tragic wasn't
diet pills and and it was tragic wasn't it oh Trevor burbick in that car park in
it oh Trevor burbick in that car park in Bermuda well you know what that last
Bermuda well you know what that last fight yeah so
fight yeah so a couple of questions for you how do you
a couple of questions for you how do you reconcile that eventually father time is
reconcile that eventually father time is going to beat you it won't be an
going to beat you it won't be an opponent and and why don't you use a
opponent and and why don't you use a common sense no no mystery no no but not
common sense no no mystery no no but not common sense but I'm asking you why
common sense but I'm asking you why don't you use the same methods that you
don't you use the same methods that you did to get over your mental health
did to get over your mental health challenges that you're still doing I've
challenges that you're still doing I've tried to help with the addiction to
tried to help with the addiction to boxing I can't let it won't go away from
boxing I can't let it won't go away from me no matter I can sit here today and
me no matter I can sit here today and say I don't want a box boxing like
say I don't want a box boxing like actual fights competitiveness against an
actual fights competitiveness against an opponent
opponent is it that is it the actual addiction to
is it that is it the actual addiction to the boxing game actual being involved
the boxing game actual being involved myself because I've been around it yeah
myself because I've been around it yeah for years and and helping out with
for years and and helping out with coaching but that doesn't give me the
coaching but that doesn't give me the same effect I don't think there's any
same effect I don't think there's any any drug or alcohol or anything in the
any drug or alcohol or anything in the world that can give you the same effect
world that can give you the same effect as going one-on-one with another trained
as going one-on-one with another trained athlete and it's the feeling of scared
athlete and it's the feeling of scared happy sad frightened anxiety everything
happy sad frightened anxiety everything rolled in one so how powerful is that
rolled in one so how powerful is that compared to how you felt that day when
compared to how you felt that day when you thinking I'm gonna drive into a
you thinking I'm gonna drive into a bridge like like give us a comparison of
bridge like like give us a comparison of the addiction you're describing for
the addiction you're describing for boxing compared to when you're in that
boxing compared to when you're in that dark hole of not being able to see a way
dark hole of not being able to see a way out yeah that that dark place not being
out yeah that that dark place not being able to see a way out is is a horrible
able to see a way out is is a horrible terrifying place to be but how powerful
terrifying place to be but how powerful is it compared to this the diction you
is it compared to this the diction you describe this addiction to boxing is I
describe this addiction to boxing is I would say is equally as powerful as well
would say is equally as powerful as well the dark deep holes on him with mental
the dark deep holes on him with mental health right and it must be
health right and it must be how addictive is it well I'm sitting
how addictive is it well I'm sitting here today saying I've got everything to
here today saying I've got everything to lose and nothing to gain including my
lose and nothing to gain including my mind I mean brain damage and whatever
mind I mean brain damage and whatever else could happen to me
else could happen to me I'm actually saying that I know I
I'm actually saying that I know I shouldn't be fighting anymore
shouldn't be fighting anymore but I'm still fighting
but I'm still fighting and I still want to fight
and I still want to fight so how powerful is it incredibly
so how powerful is it incredibly I like
I like and I've tried to walk away 20 times
and I've tried to walk away 20 times yeah and wholeheartedly meant it but
yeah and wholeheartedly meant it but what have you done but what steps have
what have you done but what steps have you taken because you eventually
you taken because you eventually surrendered you went to a psychiatrist
surrendered you went to a psychiatrist you you told people I need help here and
you you told people I need help here and you found it you know what I mean so you
you found it you know what I mean so you actually took some tangible steps to do
actually took some tangible steps to do that and I'm interested
that and I'm interested to say I need to replace this addicts
to say I need to replace this addicts with something else I mean I I'll to
with something else I mean I I'll to identify a new purpose a new sense of
identify a new purpose a new sense of mission of you know what I can normalize
mission of you know what I can normalize mental health here and I can become a
mental health here and I can become a spokesman for that I can train your
spokesman for that I can train your boxers I can like like you could do so
boxers I can like like you could do so many amazing
many amazing outside of a boxing ring I'm always
outside of a boxing ring I'm always talking about mental health anyway the
talking about mental health anyway the journey is the mental health Journey
journey is the mental health Journey from where I've been to where I am today
from where I've been to where I am today and it's all been well documented and
and it's all been well documented and well there's a lot of evidence out there
well there's a lot of evidence out there back in it all
back in it all um that'll always be there
um that'll always be there um
and it's just what steps have I taken I've literally
what steps have I taken I've literally tried everything
tried everything I've talked up golf I've talked up clay
I've talked up golf I've talked up clay pigeon shooting
pigeon shooting I've took up four-wheel driving
I've took up four-wheel driving I've took up buying and selling
I've took up buying and selling properties
properties I I I'm addicted to buying and selling
I I I'm addicted to buying and selling cars I've always done it all my life the
cars I've always done it all my life the problem is though I you know I I get the
problem is though I you know I I get the sense you're trying to replace the
sense you're trying to replace the thrill with another thrill it's almost
thrill with another thrill it's almost like you have to take steps to accept
like you have to take steps to accept you have to live without the thrill yeah
you have to live without the thrill yeah and how it's all started it's like all
and how it's all started it's like all right I don't want a box because I know
right I don't want a box because I know the consequences yeah well then all
the consequences yeah well then all right I'll do some exhibitions but it's
right I'll do some exhibitions but it's all just leading back to the fight game
all just leading back to the fight game you know what I mean I just I've
you know what I mean I just I've literally tried everything I've vacated
literally tried everything I've vacated my belts
my belts I told the promoters please leave me
I told the promoters please leave me alone I don't want to fight anymore
alone I don't want to fight anymore and then the next day I'm like no I want
and then the next day I'm like no I want to fight no I don't yes I do no don't
to fight no I don't yes I do no don't yes I do but I know
yes I do but I know that I need this and I'm going to get to
that I need this and I'm going to get to that why
that why I went to Iceland recently a few months
I went to Iceland recently a few months ago before the Joshua rousek fight
ago before the Joshua rousek fight uh all for a bit of banter with the film
uh all for a bit of banter with the film crew and to call out Thor and have a big
crew and to call out Thor and have a big old bit of a scrap in the ring and all
old bit of a scrap in the ring and all that sort of stuff with with the Game of
that sort of stuff with with the Game of Thrones guy
Thrones guy I'm always over there
I'm always over there I really realized that
I really realized that that was when we Darden with me makes
that was when we Darden with me makes Pence and I felt like
Pence and I felt like I do not want to be involved in boxing
I do not want to be involved in boxing like this is it so I phoned up Mauricio
like this is it so I phoned up Mauricio Suleiman sent him a nice message and he
Suleiman sent him a nice message and he facetimed me
facetimed me and he said Chuck my dear champion
and he said Chuck my dear champion this is fantastic you're going out on
this is fantastic you're going out on top as a champion I I um support
top as a champion I I um support anything you want to do and I officially
anything you want to do and I officially retired
retired I vacated the Ring magazine Bell I
I vacated the Ring magazine Bell I officially vacated a WBC belt
officially vacated a WBC belt the next thing I normally I mean I'm in
the next thing I normally I mean I'm in the pub having a beer
the pub having a beer um sees it all come across the TV
um sees it all come across the TV screens in Iceland heavyweight champion
screens in Iceland heavyweight champion of the world retires everyone's
of the world retires everyone's congratulating me
I don't think what the [ __ ] I've just done
what the [ __ ] I've just done I felt the emptiness of being mentally
I felt the emptiness of being mentally unwell again I felt down I felt
unwell again I felt down I felt depressed
depressed this is not the beat I only had one beer
this is not the beat I only had one beer at this moment and even before even went
at this moment and even before even went to the pub
to the pub I was sat outside on a bench with my dad
I was sat outside on a bench with my dad and Ben's thinking like
and Ben's thinking like finally now this is it
finally now this is it and I was down again I was already
and I was down again I was already depressed I was depressed straight what
depressed I was depressed straight what is the Klitschko moment Mark II then
is the Klitschko moment Mark II then isn't it you scaled that mountain and
isn't it you scaled that mountain and saw The Emptiness on the other side yeah
saw The Emptiness on the other side yeah on it on here I am retiring again and
on it on here I am retiring again and you see the emptiness and there it is
you see the emptiness and there it is empty and Hollow again I'm sat there
empty and Hollow again I'm sat there thinking
thinking what now
what now and
and I come back home
I come back home and I was home for two weeks and every
and I was home for two weeks and every day that that came that two weeks I was
day that that came that two weeks I was down and it was a gray day and I
down and it was a gray day and I couldn't shake it and I was going to the
couldn't shake it and I was going to the gym I was lifting weights I was doing a
gym I was lifting weights I was doing a run and it wasn't it wasn't doing
run and it wasn't it wasn't doing anything for me
anything for me for the first time in years
for the first time in years and then as soon as I
and then as soon as I made up my mind I'm gonna come back and
made up my mind I'm gonna come back and fight USAC or Joshua I feel great again
fight USAC or Joshua I feel great again so you're a boxing connoisseur yeah two
so you're a boxing connoisseur yeah two names for you then Marciano and Hagler
names for you then Marciano and Hagler yeah two fighters that when they've got
yeah two fighters that when they've got out never came back have you studied
out never came back have you studied them have you explored how they did it
them have you explored how they did it I'm not gonna sit here and lie
how did they do it I haven't I know Hagler was very pissed off with
I know Hagler was very pissed off with the result of um him and her uh Leonard
the result of um him and her uh Leonard and he had a bad taste in his mouth
and he had a bad taste in his mouth about boxing he didn't want to be around
about boxing he didn't want to be around it because he thought he was cheated so
it because he thought he was cheated so he walked away yeah feeling terrible
he walked away yeah feeling terrible about it all but remember that did a
about it all but remember that did a book on him where we where we wrote
book on him where we where we wrote about him and he eventually
about him and he eventually went gave himself a new challenge
went gave himself a new challenge like I think the issue here is you can't
like I think the issue here is you can't compare any other boxer to this story
compare any other boxer to this story because no other books are has been so
because no other books are has been so low so sad
low so sad so painful exactly it's pretty different
so painful exactly it's pretty different it's a different story it was
it's a different story it was interesting this isn't about what he
interesting this isn't about what he what he did did he accept
what he did did he accept no but so I'm not comparing it what I'm
no but so I'm not comparing it what I'm saying is these are people that have had
saying is these are people that have had an addiction to you like you've had that
an addiction to you like you've had that they've had they've been addicted to the
they've had they've been addicted to the pain in the spotlight the training and
pain in the spotlight the training and yet they still got out and never came
yet they still got out and never came back that's the key why I mentioned them
back that's the key why I mentioned them so hugler went to give himself a new
so hugler went to give himself a new challenge so we moved to Milan where he
challenge so we moved to Milan where he didn't speak the language
didn't speak the language he pursued a career in films for a while
he pursued a career in films for a while that gave him that it was almost like
that gave him that it was almost like the methadone
the methadone treatment you know of like he was still
treatment you know of like he was still in the spotlight but he was having to
in the spotlight but he was having to learn lots of other new challenges to do
learn lots of other new challenges to do that you know Marciano did something
that you know Marciano did something similar in terms of pursued a career
similar in terms of pursued a career still in the spotlight
still in the spotlight but without having to do the hard yards
but without having to do the hard yards of the training and the cumulative
of the training and the cumulative effects of the damage that was done then
effects of the damage that was done then 100 percent
100 percent but again they probably wasn't mentally
but again they probably wasn't mentally unwell was I I think you're less
unwell was I I think you're less addicted to boxing and more you can't
addicted to boxing and more you can't allow yourself to go where you were when
allow yourself to go where you were when you were sitting in your sports car that
you were sitting in your sports car that day or when you were in that's that's a
day or when you were in that's that's a scary moment that I think I think that's
scary moment that I think I think that's what's happening here and the only way
what's happening here and the only way that you will ever be able to walk away
that you will ever be able to walk away from boxing
from boxing is if you can be mentally happy
is if you can be mentally happy not being a boxer if you know we spoke
not being a boxer if you know we spoke at the very start of this conversation
at the very start of this conversation yeah Tyson Fury is this person the Gypsy
yeah Tyson Fury is this person the Gypsy King is the is the guy in the in the
King is the is the guy in the in the boxing ring
boxing ring I think we've probably ended it by
I think we've probably ended it by realizing that to the public they're two
realizing that to the public they're two people
people for you they're exactly the same person
for you they're exactly the same person and you have to be able to remove the
and you have to be able to remove the Gypsy King from your life yeah to let
Gypsy King from your life yeah to let him go forever let him go forever and
him go forever let him go forever and just and to realize that Tyson Fury
just and to realize that Tyson Fury is not weak because he had mental health
is not weak because he had mental health problems he's strong because he got
problems he's strong because he got through them
through them he's not lacking focus in his life
he's not lacking focus in his life because he's got numerous children and a
because he's got numerous children and a wife that loves him yeah he isn't
wife that loves him yeah he isn't lacking support because he's got an
lacking support because he's got an amazing Network around him and he still
amazing Network around him and he still mates with the people he was at school
mates with the people he was at school with somehow you've got to realize that
with somehow you've got to realize that you are way stronger than you are weaker
you are way stronger than you are weaker and the fact you've been through a
and the fact you've been through a mental health struggle shows how strong
mental health struggle shows how strong you are
you are and if you can get there yeah I think
and if you can get there yeah I think you can sit on the sofa with Paris you
you can sit on the sofa with Paris you can watch someone else have a world
can watch someone else have a world heavyweight fight and you can smile
heavyweight fight and you can smile knowing that very few people have walked
knowing that very few people have walked on this Earth and Achieve what you've
on this Earth and Achieve what you've achieved that's very very good
achieved that's very very good assessment of it
assessment of it and if I could do that that'd be like
and if I could do that that'd be like fantastic you might be able to though
fantastic you might be able to though don't think you can't look what you've
don't think you can't look what you've done with your life you understand all
done with your life you understand all that but what made me better
that but what made me better and well again was this what I'm doing
and well again was this what I'm doing today and all the time that I wasn't
today and all the time that I wasn't doing this
doing this I was sad
I was sad and I sit here today I'm fitting healthy
and I sit here today I'm fitting healthy and everything's great I still love my
and everything's great I still love my days
days the Hotel California song you can check
the Hotel California song you can check out anytime you want but you can never
out anytime you want but you can never leave
can I ever leave we can check out get well okay
we can check out get well okay you're gonna come back and see in in a
you're gonna come back and see in in a bit mush he'll be back
bit mush he'll be back and I face this all the time and every
and I face this all the time and every time I walk away from boxing
time I walk away from boxing back in the hotel California
back in the hotel California and I'm really afraid yeah of what's
and I'm really afraid yeah of what's coming
coming you know like you watch Game of Thrones
you know like you watch Game of Thrones The Winter's come in the Darkness
The Winter's come in the Darkness that's me sat here today and
that's me sat here today and everything's great I want my dog go to
everything's great I want my dog go to the gym I used to having treatment I
the gym I used to having treatment I used to sing psychiatrists no no I'm not
used to sing psychiatrists no no I'm not saying anybody but
saying anybody but odd days I feel up and down but most
odd days I feel up and down but most days like I say I've got this little
days like I say I've got this little method I do short-term goals set myself
method I do short-term goals set myself a weight Target make sure I bet you
a weight Target make sure I bet you there's a person on this Earth
there's a person on this Earth if you went and found them
if you went and found them that could work with you and solve this
that could work with you and solve this problem in exactly the same way that you
problem in exactly the same way that you couldn't be a professional boxer for 20
couldn't be a professional boxer for 20 years without a coach
years without a coach you need to find the coach for the next
you need to find the coach for the next part of your life and they are there 100
part of your life and they are there 100 this help out there like I said I just
this help out there like I said I just got to take it out like I did before and
got to take it out like I did before and you say keep busy with other stuff and
you say keep busy with other stuff and the most busiest person on the planet at
the most busiest person on the planet at the moment I've signed up to like 60
the moment I've signed up to like 60 tour dates from now in the country I've
tour dates from now in the country I've had to cancel like the 20 of them
had to cancel like the 20 of them because I'm supposed to be going back
because I'm supposed to be going back into camp
into camp I'm singing a song
I'm singing a song I'm writing my third book
I'm writing my third book I'm doing a 10 part not that Netflix
I'm doing a 10 part not that Netflix documentary with an option to do another
documentary with an option to do another two seasons if I want to
two seasons if I want to how much stuff can I do
how much stuff can I do to keep busy
to keep busy but there's busyness but look at again
but there's busyness but look at again as I'm listening to it that you're the
as I'm listening to it that you're the economic engine for lots of other people
economic engine for lots of other people that are not gonna say to you they'll
that are not gonna say to you they'll get on the ad look after yourself I'm
get on the ad look after yourself I'm worried about you in 20 years time not
worried about you in 20 years time not you in two years
you in two years how many people are around you that
how many people are around you that right that actually would go against
right that actually would go against their own economic
their own economic advantage and say to you just go and
advantage and say to you just go and live a happy life we'll find a way we're
live a happy life we'll find a way we're good like go and get that treatment that
good like go and get that treatment that is going to help you uncouple the Gypsy
is going to help you uncouple the Gypsy King concise and Fury versus
King concise and Fury versus go and do that documentary come on I'm
go and do that documentary come on I'm going to promote you on the tour I've
going to promote you on the tour I've got a new book for you to sell yeah that
got a new book for you to sell yeah that it sounds to me like
it sounds to me like I've seen it like you know in terms of
I've seen it like you know in terms of growing up in that world yeah I always
growing up in that world yeah I always think that on your way up nobody wants
think that on your way up nobody wants to know you then you hit a peak level of
to know you then you hit a peak level of Fame and then everybody wants to know
Fame and then everybody wants to know you and on your way down nobody wants to
you and on your way down nobody wants to know you ever nobody wants to know you
know you ever nobody wants to know you again so at the minute you're at that
again so at the minute you're at that stage where everyone wants to know you
stage where everyone wants to know you because there's a there's an advantage
because there's a there's an advantage to knowing you
to knowing you but there's nobody else here saying to
but there's nobody else here saying to it but will those same people want to
it but will those same people want to know you in 25 years it'll be Paris and
know you in 25 years it'll be Paris and it'll be the people around you 100 are
it'll be the people around you 100 are actually saying to you like he said
actually saying to you like he said before I don't have a big crew of people
before I don't have a big crew of people I have the same people today around me
I have the same people today around me die hard when I first started boxing
die hard when I first started boxing right and what are they saying my wife
right and what are they saying my wife me Brothers right and they'll still be
me Brothers right and they'll still be there in 20 years time of No Doubt
there in 20 years time of No Doubt except what are they saying to you they
except what are they saying to you they said to me forget about boxing walk away
said to me forget about boxing walk away right you've done what you've done you
right you've done what you've done you don't need anything else now get out of
don't need anything else now get out of it
it and it's it's mainly just me and it's my
and it's it's mainly just me and it's my mood changes and and changing my mind
mood changes and and changing my mind every two minutes
every two minutes I'm in very indecisive sure but there's
I'm in very indecisive sure but there's lots of incentives of people then that
lots of incentives of people then that when you change it a lot of people have
when you change it a lot of people have said just walk away retire no no but
said just walk away retire no no but there's a there's also that other siren
there's a there's also that other siren call on your other shoulder people go in
call on your other shoulder people go in stay in it because you're relevant at
stay in it because you're relevant at the minute yeah Netflix are not coming
the minute yeah Netflix are not coming to you
to you when you're long retired then you've not
when you're long retired then you've not got that title do you see what I mean of
got that title do you see what I mean of course yeah while while the hot they're
course yeah while while the hot they're trying to get everything in aren't they
trying to get everything in aren't they yeah but no you've made a very valid
yeah but no you've made a very valid point like
point like five years
five years they're the people you've got to listen
they're the people you've got to listen to
to them in Huddersfield again I'm hearing
them in Huddersfield again I'm hearing it and I'm seeing the same stream of
it and I'm seeing the same stream of people walking in saying knock his
people walking in saying knock his [ __ ] head off so I said rather than
[ __ ] head off so I said rather than listen to your coaches stick to the game
listen to your coaches stick to the game plan get behind the Jab
plan get behind the Jab keep slipping it's people walking in
keep slipping it's people walking in that have an opinion rather than empathy
that have an opinion rather than empathy there's always been no like
there's always been no like I don't think I can retire today
I don't think I can retire today because I need that Joshua fight
because I need that Joshua fight we have been trying to make that fight
we have been trying to make that fight for years right why do you need that
for years right why do you need that fight because it's like it's the fight
fight because it's like it's the fight that people want to see it's the fact
that people want to see it's the fact that I want to see but then they'll be
that I want to see but then they'll be oh I need Joshua too because I the
oh I need Joshua too because I the result he wasn't happy with or I wasn't
result he wasn't happy with or I wasn't happy with it I just fear they'll always
happy with it I just fear they'll always be an Anthony I've already said that the
be an Anthony I've already said that the law like the Roman general said and
law like the Roman general said and we'll beat everybody now
we'll beat everybody now he said yep there'll always be somebody
he said yep there'll always be somebody else in the beginning of the Gladiator
else in the beginning of the Gladiator movie yeah remember it yeah yeah Ray
movie yeah remember it yeah yeah Ray guys we've conquered the world and he
guys we've conquered the world and he goes there'll always be somebody else to
goes there'll always be somebody else to fight there'll always be another War
fight there'll always be another War yeah and there's it's going to be
yeah and there's it's going to be somebody else like before the last four
somebody else like before the last four or five years there's been this
or five years there's been this three-headed monster me Wilder Joshua
three-headed monster me Wilder Joshua Joshua and Wilder have been slain and
Joshua and Wilder have been slain and I'm the last one standing all of a
I'm the last one standing all of a sudden you've got some new people coming
sudden you've got some new people coming up now you've got Joe Joyce coming
up now you've got Joe Joyce coming Daniel Dubois usex gatecruster party so
Daniel Dubois usex gatecruster party so now there's loads of new blood that
now there's loads of new blood that wasn't there five years ago and it's
wasn't there five years ago and it's like well can you meet this person can
like well can you meet this person can you beat that person but
you beat that person but I think it would be an absolute day in
I think it would be an absolute day in travesty if me and Joshua didn't fight
travesty if me and Joshua didn't fight in this era we've already seen big
in this era we've already seen big heavyweights that didn't fight before
heavyweights that didn't fight before like Mike Tyson versus Riddick Beau Mike
like Mike Tyson versus Riddick Beau Mike Lennox Lewis and Bo
Lennox Lewis and Bo um we didn't see the junior winter Ricky
um we didn't see the junior winter Ricky Hutton fight we didn't see Carl frotch
Hutton fight we didn't see Carl frotch versus uh Joe Carl zaggy there's been so
versus uh Joe Carl zaggy there's been so many good fights that we didn't get to
many good fights that we didn't get to see and lock him back and I'm now like
see and lock him back and I'm now like does anyone really care that you didn't
does anyone really care that you didn't see him but it seems so important to me
see him but it seems so important to me now living in the moment but lot we're
now living in the moment but lot we're pretty much out of time but what I would
pretty much out of time but what I would say is for you to come and talk like
say is for you to come and talk like this and share this with us um in the
this and share this with us um in the way you have we'll do so much for people
way you have we'll do so much for people that are struggling in a real place
that are struggling in a real place where you were
where you were and what I would finally say is we're
and what I would finally say is we're both boxing fans right there's nothing
both boxing fans right there's nothing on the earth that we would love to see
on the earth that we would love to see more than Tyson Fury Auntie Joshua but
more than Tyson Fury Auntie Joshua but above all of that there's nothing I'd
above all of that there's nothing I'd like to see more than that than at the
like to see more than that than at the end of that fight
end of that fight I read somewhere that you found the
I read somewhere that you found the serenity to walk away from boxing so
serenity to walk away from boxing so you know please speak to people look for
you know please speak to people look for those answers they're not within you and
those answers they're not within you and they're probably not within the
they're probably not within the immediate circle around you right they
immediate circle around you right they are almost certainly the answer to your
are almost certainly the answer to your problem
problem is with someone you've never met in your
is with someone you've never met in your life so it's time to open the door
life so it's time to open the door and see who's outside I think so well
and see who's outside I think so well boys it's been a fascinating very uh
boys it's been a fascinating very uh interesting how was it for you
interesting how was it for you it's been good you know it's been up and
it's been good you know it's been up and down round and round the round it's been
down round and round the round it's been a typical Tyson Fury moment I believe
a typical Tyson Fury moment I believe but like I say things like this like
but like I say things like this like you've just said there
you've just said there they will people will watch us people
they will people will watch us people who are probably well and whatever they
who are probably well and whatever they can take from it positive might help
can take from it positive might help them and our life might just save
them and our life might just save someone's life
someone's life I I've watched this you you guys before
I I've watched this you you guys before and you you always say like what three
and you you always say like what three things
your three non-negotiable behaviors that you and the people around you have to
you and the people around you have to buy into well my free non-negotiable
buy into well my free non-negotiable behaviors or three things that makes me
behaviors or three things that makes me high performances fish fingers chips and
high performances fish fingers chips and beans and that we've never had before
beans and that we've never had before come on let's explain that
come on let's explain that fish fingers chips and beans it's me
fish fingers chips and beans it's me deferral meal and that's what makes me
deferral meal and that's what makes me high performance no more explanation I
high performance no more explanation I have it before everybody and that's what
have it before everybody and that's what makes me high performance is that what
makes me high performance is that what you had even when he was a kid for your
you had even when he was a kid for your first amateur fight that's my favorite
first amateur fight that's my favorite favorite favorite meal in the world you
favorite favorite meal in the world you can go to all the big fancy restaurants
can go to all the big fancy restaurants in the world have you ever asked for it
in the world have you ever asked for it in a big fancy restaurant of course
in a big fancy restaurant of course obviously
obviously so what was the first time you asked it
so what was the first time you asked it in a Posh Restaurant when you thought
in a Posh Restaurant when you thought that's heavyweight champion of the world
that's heavyweight champion of the world status when they did it without
status when they did it without I was in America in a big fancy
I was in America in a big fancy restaurant in New York yeah and everyone
restaurant in New York yeah and everyone was having lobsters and all this fancy
was having lobsters and all this fancy truffle and whatever else all these
truffle and whatever else all these fancy fish things I don't even like any
fancy fish things I don't even like any of this like seafood and all that I'm
of this like seafood and all that I'm not a seafood person so I said oh I know
not a seafood person so I said oh I know she said well what what can we meet you
she said well what what can we meet you got a chef would make anything you want
got a chef would make anything you want like I said I'll tell you what I'll have
like I said I'll tell you what I'll have fish fingers chips and beans and a bit
fish fingers chips and beans and a bit like beans like green beans I'm like no
like beans like green beans I'm like no um like breakfast beans and she's like
um like breakfast beans and she's like what is this
what is this because I don't have beans for breakfast
because I don't have beans for breakfast today in America in Spains yeah and uh
today in America in Spains yeah and uh so I got a picture up and she's like oh
so I got a picture up and she's like oh like barbecue beans because they haven't
like barbecue beans because they haven't were like barbecue and stuff like yep
were like barbecue and stuff like yep that's what I want fish fingers
that's what I want fish fingers not crisps I want like chunky fries yeah
not crisps I want like chunky fries yeah and barbecue beans barbecue beans no
and barbecue beans barbecue beans no that's power
that's power I don't know about that people are
I don't know about that people are looking at me like
looking at me like this guy's crazy can we go for a little
this guy's crazy can we go for a little quick right
quick right um what advice would you give to a
um what advice would you give to a teenage Tyson just starting out
teenage Tyson just starting out be prepared for a whirlwind of a roller
be prepared for a whirlwind of a roller coaster life coming home
coaster life coming home what is your biggest strength what is
what is your biggest strength what is your greatest weakness
your greatest weakness my biggest strength is my ability to
my biggest strength is my ability to overcome problems
overcome problems and my biggest weakness
and my biggest weakness is
is not knowing what to do when it's when I
not knowing what to do when it's when I should
should if you could go back to one moment of
if you could go back to one moment of your life what would it be or why
One Moment In My Life go back it would probably be
it would probably be the moment
the moment that me in Paris had beneath the trees
that me in Paris had beneath the trees in 2006 we're having a picnic
in 2006 we're having a picnic I wasn't amateur boxer and I told her I
I wasn't amateur boxer and I told her I was going to marry her after going out
was going to marry her after going out with her for about three months
with her for about three months and I told her I was going to be
and I told her I was going to be every title I ever won I named it more
every title I ever won I named it more off
off and I told her that I was going to marry
and I told her that I was going to marry him we're going to have kids and I'm
him we're going to have kids and I'm going to be heavy at jump into the world
going to be heavy at jump into the world and it was one of those epic moments in
and it was one of those epic moments in my life that
my life that I would relive it I love that and
I would relive it I love that and finally this is your kind of departing
finally this is your kind of departing message really for the people that have
message really for the people that have listened to this podcast
listened to this podcast um what you'd love to leave them
um what you'd love to leave them thinking about and it's your one Golden
thinking about and it's your one Golden Rule
Rule to living a high performance life
to living a high performance life the golden rule for me would be
the golden rule for me would be a Folly heart follow your dreams because
a Folly heart follow your dreams because you never know where it might take you
you never know where it might take you I'll never listen to all the naysayers
I'll never listen to all the naysayers and all the dream Crushers because along
and all the dream Crushers because along the journey that I've had I've had so
the journey that I've had I've had so many people telling me that I can't do
many people telling me that I can't do this and won't do that and will won't be
this and won't do that and will won't be possible and I didn't believe any of
possible and I didn't believe any of them and I made it to the top anyway so
them and I made it to the top anyway so if you follow your dream and you've got
if you follow your dream and you've got a goal
a goal probably gonna reach it
probably gonna reach it thank you so much for your time today
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