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What's up, Primal Gang? She made a video
response to my comments. So, I'm going
to review this video. Let's get into it.
The video is titled Why I Don't Just Add
a Little Meat. And she shows here some
muscle meat that is cooked with some
toxic herbs on top.
So lately I've been getting comments
from a particular person on some of my
videos and so far they've all been
pretty polite and I appreciate that cuz
I I'm polite with everybody. You can't
show me one person that I wasn't polite
with. It's something else that they get
their feelings hurt for some reason. But
yeah, I'm I'm polite.
>> Feel like we can have debate or
conversations without people being so
defensive or argumentative in a way
that's not productive.
Uh some of the questions it seems like
this person may have been vegan in the
past and they they find that their
health has improved or something has
improved in their life when they've
reintroduced animal products. And if
that's the case for you, then that is
your experience and nobody can say
anything to that fact. I guess I don't
understand why it is when there's a
channel with a vegan on it or a
plant-based person on it who's promoting
what they've experienced or what they
they know from all the education or
books that they've read
>> because I I clearly see that you're
missing out on stuff and you're you're
missing out on certain information and
I'm trying to give you that information
but uh I don't know you you don't seem
to listen maybe in this video, you're
going to explain it. But um yeah, let's
just watch your your your diet a little
bit first. Um yeah, let let me just just
tell you my opinion about u this u this
food right here. This is what she eats,
guys. So, it's potatoes and mushrooms
like steamed up or something. No, I
guess this is like the
whatever, man. Yeah, it's it's that
cooking machine air fryer or what? I
don't know. Whatever. Yeah, it's
potatoes and mushrooms cooked. Okay.
Then uh she cuts up this broccoli.
Why? Then she is going to remove the uh
the leafy part from the kale.
Okay. Why she doesn't eat the stem? Cuz
yeah, she doesn't want to eat so much
undigestible fiber. She just wants this
Okay. So, she does put it I guess it in
a steamer.
She does some exercise.
This type of exercise is not too
stressful. I would do this. I even have
a yoga mat right now. Just u just a
place like this flat cuz I I do like to
believe that. Yeah, that's that's
somewhat good for me to to do some type
of stretching in the morning. I almost
never do it cuz I'm busy with something
else or whatever. But uh I I like to
believe that that that yeah that that's
a good thing and and I should do some
type of stretching on on a yoga mat.
Yeah, that's definitely good for you.
when I get an injury or something, I
don't know, some some something hurts, I
I just just get on a yoga mat and and I
do the stretching and the the you you
have to watch how you breathe and all of
that and you can make pain go away. So,
yeah, it's definitely good for you. And
lifting a kettle bell or whatever, I I
would say that's that's even better than
going to the gym. And I I I would say
this is more natural. Okay. I I am I'm
saying that u this type of exercise
Like it's way healthier than lifting a
lot of lot of weight
to the point that where people like
passing out or something. Yeah. Also
nothing wrong with that type of exercise.
exercise.
I guess she's doing it until she feels
like and then then she just stops. It's
not like she's forcing herself. Okay, I
Okay, so it's raw cabbage and steamed
broccoli and kale.
That's already a big portion, man. I I
could not eat this much. Okay,
I actually could not eat one tablespoon,
but whatever.
I guess she's like practicing like this
so-called what normies call um volume
eating where you you need to eat a big
volume to feel satisfied or something.
You need to feel your belly full or something.
So, it was raw cabbage, I guess, and
steamed broccoli and kale. Then some um
baked potatoes in the oven and uh Oh, I
I get it now. So, she put the potato in
in the air fryer and that's why it looks
so brown. Okay. And I guess there was
also some mushrooms
also in the air fryer.
Okay. And then she places some type of
grain. I guess it's lentil or beans or something.
something.
Um, yeah, I could not eat this food.
Okay, that would be impossible for me.
Even as a vegan, I I could not eat the
green part. Maybe I could eat the
potatoes, some lanterns, of course,
whatever. But the green part, man,
that's difficult to eat so much. I don't
know. I'm I'm just saying that, yeah,
this is not a delicious meal. And I had
everything that you had here. But uh if
you look at my shorts, my like my short videos.
videos.
Um yeah, I can just close this up. Yeah,
let's just watch the entire video. Okay.
Yeah, I can say that I had everything
from there. Whatever.
But um you you probably never had
Okay. You you never had my foods. So I
can have an opinion about your foods and
just saying that yeah that's just too
much and in just in volume it's just too
much to eat in that much volume and yeah
it's it's not very nutritious at all
while my my food is is way more nutritious.
You're basically just having um fiber
and carbs and a lot of anti-nutrients.
And look at my plate like like this is
the ideal human food. The ideal food for humans.
humans.
Okay. And this is my sauce. My sauce is
some egg yolks. Okay.
And of course I'm not scared of carbs or
something. I I do eat fruit.
But yeah, I'm going to explain more
about that. Yeah. Let's just continue
watching this video with keeping that in
mind that I think that's what she's
missing out that uh she's practicing
this volume eating which kind of sounds
logical cuz it fills you up or something
but in the same time you feel empty cuz
you just don't have the micronutrients
from from u what I'm eating. Okay.
All right.
why it is that somebody might come on
that channel and specifically talk about
or ask why I'm not eating animal products.
products.
>> Because I want the best for you and
that's why
>> I can acknowledge that there are healthy
people who are not vegan. I can also
acknowledge there are vegan people who
are extremely unhealthy. So we get that
cuz I think both sides can acknowledge
that. And there
>> at least you're not eating seed oils.
Okay? because celios would would
actually show up in in forms of obesity
or something. But yeah, at least you're
not eating that. And at least I have
some respect because you you're eating
like so-called wall foods. Okay. You're
actually actually what you showed in
that short video, you actually show us
wall foods. Okay. And uh yeah, that's
that's far more uh
I I can say that that at least u you're
you're not trying to cheat yourself with
fake cheeses and fake mock meats or
something. At least you you are actually
eating the wall foods.
>> Are definitely people on the extreme
ends in both camps who will say that
it's not possible. They'll say that it's
not possible to be vegan because you
can't get this, this, this, or that.
or there's never been an entirely vegan
population to get
>> um of course there hasn't been an entire
vegan population because uh you just
just can't have multiple generations of
100% vegan people.
It is just not going to happen. like I
wish I could prove you this that u let's
take some some that would be like a
horrible experiment but yeah let's let's
say that there was a case where uh
vegans just start reproducing or
something and u we look at 10
generations from now what happens and
then we could if they reach 10
generations uh I don't know if they do
reach then yeah we We could see what
type of results does that um um
come up with and um we could compare
meat eaters and you you would notice
significant um uh differences. I I'm
telling you
>> any data from that makes or that proves
that what you're doing right now is
correct or sustainable. And that is
true. I don't think there's ever been a
vegan population in all of history. But
I think in most of history, we've all
been kind of struggling when it comes to
being able to eat enough food. And we
don't live in that environment anymore.
We live in an environment of excess. And
>> we definitely don't live in our natural
environment. And
>> when it comes to peoples, like the
Okinawans specifically, they're always
the ones that I think of when I think of
the people who do the best or even the
Africans. Some African tribes eating
>> African tribes eating high carb diets.
Sure. The tribes instead of going to to
hunt, they they're going to um harvest
some corn or something. Not going to
happen. They all go hunt monkeys, hunt
boores, hunt birds, steal the egg from
the bird, steal the honey. Like, come
on. I mean, yeah, honey is a carb, okay?
But still, it's it's an animal product.
>> They thrive. They're lean. They're healthy.
healthy.
>> That's because they don't eat seed oils. Okay.
Okay.
I get it that in some places, even in in
Africa nowadays, they they have like
seed oils because yeah, they they can't
afford meat or something.
But um yeah, people that consume
cidiosor don't look as as the people who
who um who don't consume it
>> and they might have the occasional meat,
but we talk about these people.
>> African tribes eat raw meat. They they
drink the blood. They they harvest the organs
organs
or they just they just simply put like a
a hole on the cow and just harvest a
little blood and leave the animal alive.
Let it reproduce the the blood and and
all of that. And yeah, that's that's
what they do. Like don't tell me what
what they do.
only the only the poorest ones like
maybe or
the ones that they are no longer living
in nature and close to their tribes or
like um consuming so much carbs and and
stuff. I like how Durian Liar keeps
bringing up that um Gib or whoever and
talks about canyons. Canyons literally
drink drink blood and and eat raw meat.
I I don't know. And then there's the
other the the other group who just grows
like really tall and strong and they
literally um drink a lot of raw milk and
eat a lot of animal products. So I don't
know which tribe are you talking about?
Like give some examples
>> as if they're eating a lot of meat in
their diet and they might eat meat on
the order of once a week to once a
month. uh
>> depends on how much they can afford but
if they could do do it then they they
would eat it every day
>> back in the day like even during
biblical times when I look at the diet.
>> Yes. But that that's also times when
meat sorry when wheat was cultivated and
rice was cultivated and agriculture just
took off and they started planting a lot
of seeds and they were saying they were
they were they were giving it to to
majority of the population and yeah
that's what they had to eat cuz yeah
they had to build something like a
pyramid or they had to build like a big
castle or something and they were fed
like rice and bread or whatever. Like
that's a bad example
>> that they were having. They only had any
kind of animal product during u maybe
celebrations. That's about it. Other
>> Yeah. Cuz they got convinced that plants
are good for them.
>> Wise most people eat plant-based diet
and that's why I like from
>> Yeah, you're you're clearly missing out
on a lot of information. It's like um I
need to give you like a full um
like a full course or something that
what actually happened. Okay. Uh wheat
and rice and all that garbage, corn, it
it wasn't around for many many years and
it only got cultivated. So um so uh yeah
so they they they they wanted to reduce
our meat consumption or something
promote plant-based diets. I don't
always talk about vegan diet because if
more people were plant-based I think
everybody could be happier with it. You
cannot convince everybody that it's
morally wrong to kill animals for food
consumption. You just can't get
everybody on board with that. But we can
all acknowledge that a plant-based diet
okay, yeah, this is difficult and I
could just just end the video right
here, but yeah, I'm just going to keep
going. Um, 100% not. the more meat you
eat from a healthy animal. And I and I
and I say it again from a healthy
animal. I'm not talking about salami
that uses meat glue and some type of
other meats that they use like red
insects or I don't know what type of
chemical to make it more red or they
keep it like super oxygenated to to make
it look fresh or they fill it up with
corn starch like let's say hot dogs they
they put lot of corn corn starch inside
and lot of bad chem chemicals
and they they they also uh give like
hormones to the to the to the
farm-raised cow or whatever. I'm not
talking about that type of meat. I'm
talking about from an from meat that
actually comes from a healthy animal
cuz the other definitely is going to
have some yeah some bad effects on the
hood but it's still healthier than than
potatoes, broccoli and kale and
mushrooms. Okay. Any time of the day,
you definitely would uh would get more
nutrients from from even the the
unhealthiest meat then um what you get
from from kale and broccoli and whatever.
whatever.
>> And all the healthiest cultures out
there had a plant-based diet. >> Wrong.
>> Wrong.
>> So, not plant exclusive, but
plant-based. So that gets us back to,
well then why don't I include animal products?
products?
I I think the brainwash is just too
deep, guys.
>> In my diet, if I can thrive on the diet
that I am eating now without having to
I I don't know. I I don't know anything
about your past but um
um there has been only one so in front
of me there was was killed pig there was
killed duck cow when I was when I was a
kid and I I fish I never felt bad for
them I knew that that's food and it's
going to to taste good okay and um only
one time when uh my I don't want to name
family member so a family member were
brought home some fish and the fish was
still alive and uh living in like a like
a container of water and was still
swimming and I thought that's going to
be my pet fish and I went to
kindergarten or something and I came
home and the fish was already prepared
as food and I was traumatized. Okay,
that was the only time we can call it
like a vegan moment because I thought
that fish is going to survive in that
water and it's going to be my pet fish
and it's going to be like my friend.
Okay, that's the only time. But I I was
just a kid and I didn't even know that
that fish needs a river water or
something. And I ate the fish. I fish
was actually my my favorite food, like
my one of my favorite meats. And um and
yeah, that was my only vegan moment.
Maybe you people who like just grow up
in like a city and you never experienced
any uh animal slaughtered in front of
you uh for their meat or whatever,
harvesting their organs or something.
Yeah, you have like different experience
and you're like you're like trying to
justify veganism but not me. Uh the only
reason why I went vegan because I wanted
to to uh try it out. How is it? And um I
I really thought that hey maybe I'm
going to be the first one in family. I I
guess I even was the first vegan ever in
family and I thought I'm if I do
something special like this, it's
definitely going to make me live longer
or something. But it's definitely not
the case, man. Like like look at
yesterday for example. I I did not had
food for like 20 hours only because I
consumed some um raw bone marrow with
some minced meat and some some liver.
Okay. And uh I kind of consumed a little
bit too much bone marrow just because
simply I wanted to to uh not have some
leftover cuz yeah it it was still fresh
and I I prefer it very fresh. And as a
result for 20 hours I did not have to
touch food. I did not have any cravings
like I I could just forget about food
entirely. While vegans and people who
eat a lot of plants or whatever, they
just end up starving and they just get
hungry after one meal or something.
Oh man. Yeah, it's it's just sad. It's
clear it's clearly meat meat better for
you and gives you energy for longer time
and sustained energy and all the good
nutrients that's inside. It's it's just
clearly better for you. I I think you
just just forgot or you just never
experienced the type of foods that I am
talking about like the type of foods
Where is it man?
Yeah. Another thing heart. Yeah. You you
maybe you you never even ate ate a heart
like cooked or something. You can eat
this 100%. You can eat this big artery.
It's 100% edible and um yeah, it's very
nutritious and uh I guess you're just
afraid of it or it's socially not
acceptable or something and um and yeah,
you're just afraid of others opinions or
>> Then that's what I'm going to do. Why
would I change anything up if I don't
have to? cuz you never experienced it
maybe and um
I I don't know how can you have
something an opinion of something when
you never experienced it
>> and I think that's the question that you
see a lot of vegan activists ask asking
we don't live in a
>> and no don't try to like uh compare
that's what what people do I I heard
people comparing some type of drug or
something to to meat because they try to
compare like like a strong drug and
saying that oh but they never
experienced that drug either that
actually comes from a plant okay
whatever um they haven't experienced so
it means it's good for them or and and
they they try to compare such a things
>> a world where all the necessary foods or
supplementations one might need to be
healthy isn't available that's the world
that most of us live in and we're not
>> exactly I I do agree I'm not saying that
this meat right here. I'm not saying
that this is the best ever, like this
lamp heart or something. I wish I could
have some deer heart instead or I don't
know, some bear heart or whatever. But
hey, I I don't have access to that. So,
I settle with this. Okay. But it's still
healthier than um than than your food.
>> We're not telling everybody in the world
that they need to be vegan to be
ethical. It's supposed to be about
whether or not it's possible for that
person to eat that kind of diet. This
channel seems to go a little bit further
in talking about what the ideal diet
might be. And it's worth noting that I
don't think that people can achieve that
ideal very easily. If the ideal diet
based on what I understand of the Bible,
and I know a lot of people roll their
eyes at that concept, I used to be one
of them. But the ideal isn't possible
because we don't live in an ideal world.
We live in a very different kind of world.
world.
>> Exactly. I do agree with this that uh
sometimes just because you you get
certain foods like it's limited how many
people can can eat wild meat nowadays
just because all these u because hunting
is not legal and um whatever and you
can't haunt because the animal is like I
don't know it's like um
endangered species or something or
simply those type of species are
protected or whatever and you just can't
do it because you're just going to risk
getting in jail and I I get it that um
um it's not possible for everybody but
um for those that is it is possible they
should they should just uh do it
>> world we are not in the garden of Eden
so then there are some
>> in garden of Eden and whatever u we are
we are eating a lot animal products and
the best yeah fruit of course fruit as
well and like like like pesticides free
fruits that's for sure different ways we
can go about filling in those gaps some
people might talk about having lowfat
lean cuts of meat from a healthy animal
that was what the question is why don't
I have that and I will say I did at one
point when I was doing more of that
paleo style I wasn't like the unhealthy
put butter and MTC oil and coconut oil
and mix it in with my coffee kind of
paleo. I ate fruit and vegetables. Avoid
beans and grains. And I ate animal products.
products.
>> Nice. That was better 100%.
>> And by animal products, I mean meat. Uh
I even did I didn't even do the whole
dairy thing because I think people were
a little more strict about getting rid
of dairy from your diet because it
wasn't what they believe paleo people
were eat. I agree with this. I'm not
saying milk is 100% bad, but it's not as
good as compared to something like raw
liver, raw meat eating. And to be fair,
dairy makes no sense for humans. It
might have made sense for people who
couldn't grow anything else and all they
could do was eat cows and and the
secretions of those cows, you know, the
the milk meant for their babies.
milk was harvested just because yeah
they could do it and it was a safe way
for them to um it was a safe way for
them to keep um keep um producing milk
and they also made cheese out of it and
cheese could be stored for a long time
and and all of that. It was it just
became part of our diet. It does contain
many good nutrients especially if it's
consumed raw but it's not the most
ideal. Okay.
Yeah. Me I I think that um dairy it was
like like just a part of um of like a
safety net of having enough food. Okay.
Like you could easily just um just get
the milk and um not easily cuz yeah
there's a procedure or whatever. But
let's say you could you could get the
milk without hurting the animal and you
still had milk for like many many days
or months or something until the the cow
was still producing the milk. And maybe
you Yeah, I I don't want to give the
rest of the details
cuz yeah, we talking to a vegan and
yeah, they they might get hurt because
I'm talking about the animal. Whatever.
Once we're all weaned from mother's
milk, from human milk, it makes no sense
for us to continue having it. And the
fact that so many people
>> I agree. I agree.
>> The world are allergic to milk, it makes sense.
sense.
>> I am not a huge fan of milk, but I
believe that raw milk and um and aged
raw milk is the best type of dairy you
can consume. I I just just like the the
taste of certain artisan cheeses and I'm
I'm I'm saying that yeah, it's also not
the best thing to consume, but I just
just prefer their the taste and I still
get good nutrition out of it
>> that we shouldn't have it and we
shouldn't promote it, especially on any
kind of food pyramid. If a lot of us are
allergic to it, it shouldn't be on there.
there.
>> There's nothing to be allergic to it.
people might get allergic or whatever
um because the the milk was like
pasteurized or something, but um yeah,
you can't be allergic to to milk from a
healthy animal.
>> There should be there's a plenty of
other ways to get whatever nutrient
>> whatever. I'm not promoting milk either.
Yeah, we can just promote organs and
muscle meat all day and yeah, that's fine.
fine.
people think they're getting from dairy
on that. But fortunately, this person
wasn't asking about that. They were
asking about the lean meat. So, yes,
when I was
>> Yeah. Um, you can get away with with
lean meat and you can just do the lowfat
thing easily. Like you can just just eat
minced meat. That's like 5% 12% fat.
Yeah, that's nothing. And some raw liver
and whatever else organ you can get.
heart like the lean part of the heart
and you can get away with with very
consuming like very little fat and I I
honestly don't feel the need to consume
so much fat. I'm I'm getting satisfied
just from from few tablespoons of of fat
and plus the minced meat already has
some fat and other cuts has some fat. So
yeah, my my fat cravings are like
completely satisfied. 24 out of seven.
paleo. I did the lean meats then. I had
I don't know and I I was very particular
about it. Part of the reason why I cut
back and started doing more plant-based
besides the environmental reasons I
wanted to do better. It was because it
was simply too expensive. And that
>> I agree. I agree that um um meat,
especially good quality meat, it can be
more expensive than a package of kale or
or lettuce or or a bag of but I agree. I
agree with this. I'm not saying that u
um it's cheap and um I'm not saying that
um I'm I'm spending little money on on food.
food.
>> Does make a lot of sense if people were
to eat
>> for organic. What does she say? For
organic, grass-fed, cage-free, wild
caught at, etc. I didn't fake valuing
healthy meat while actually buying the
I I'm not saying that I I buy the the
best best quality and the most
expensive, but um yeah, I do my best.
the kind of meat that they say they all
value, they wouldn't be eating it three
times a day. And that's what people seem
to want to promote, including
>> and some of it you don't even need. If
you get like good good quality, you
don't even even need to eat like three
times a day or something. If you just
sit down and and eat, depends, man.
Sometimes sometimes you're you're
hungrier cuz you have like a more active
day and sometimes you you can just get
away with one meal a day. But remember
I'm talking about um raw meat
specifically. I don't know if you're
going to bring up in this video, but
just know that chemically it's not the
same thing eating raw meat compared to
eating cooked meat. And it depends how
much time it was cooked and then what
temperature and all of that.
So you you you maybe you just just don't
have experience with with the raw meat.
>> The food pyramid. Everybody thinks that
somehow we're all fat and protein
deprived. And that's
>> nobody cares about protein, man. Well, I
I never care about how much protein I
consumed or something. I eat plenty of
meat and I'm pretty sure and I'm also
having it raw. So I'm pretty sure I'm
it's like very efficient way of getting
enough protein for me.
And u what did you say? Yeah, let let me
hear hear it.
And that's what people seem to want to
promote, including the food pyramid.
Everybody thinks that somehow we're all
fat and protein deprived and that's not
the culture.
>> Fat is is a good um source of energy
just like carbs is is somewhat Yeah,
it's all right if you're getting it from
fruit and you're also getting hydration
and all of that
like um that that's how you should look
at fat. It's a good source of u energy
like that's where the the calories
mostly should should come from and of
course some some carbs whatever uh from
fruit and um fat is also contains like
um like a lot of fat soluble vitamins
that make your skin look better and
that's what what um makes your skin
shine and all of that. It's it's by
definition good for you. You cannot
replace it with kale and you cannot
replace it with potatoes, man. It's just
chemically not the same and you just
won't get those building blocks. All right,
right,
everybody knows that I I I guess guess
you're clear with this that uh plant
matter, it's not going to be the same as
as as the the meat
like like molecularly how it's how it's
built. it's not going to be the same and
it's it's just not doesn't have the same
building blocks. And even if it has
traces of what the meat has, it's in
it's in very very small quantity. Like
maybe that's why you need to eat so much
because it does have certain things that
that meat has. But it's it's it's just
in such a small quantity that it's
sometimes it's even unabsorbable because
it's just locked up in the fiber and you
just don't chew the fiber or you just
cook destroy it by cooking it.
Yeah. Is it's just a sad meal.
>> We live in America. We've never eaten
more protein than we do now.
But the problem is that if you're eating
it cooked, then you're you're going to
to consume more because you're missing
out on certain micronutrients.
And it's not the same protein when it's
when it's cooked to that um compared to
eating it raw.
>> So, I don't need the excess protein. I
don't need the excess fat.
>> But it's it's a bad it's a bad way to
think that it's all about protein.
There's so many
like probably I don't know in number but
yet the number is pretty big in terms of
if you would look at meat from like an
electron like like a like a microscope
you would see many many things there
okay like in terms of molecular
structures okay and some some of them
you you can't even uh spell how how it's
spelled or something it it wouldn't even
fit in a big book all the list that it
contains and plants just simply don't
have that and right now in your body th
those things as human you have them okay
and you need to consume them to get them
and you need to consume them raw not
and that's the ideal u thing to do okay
it's one thing that we can't get get as
it was in nature like the wild meat or whatever,
but you do your best
>> because it might be lean meat, but it's
not that lean. It's not there's
>> So what are you saying that? Yeah.
Sometimes fat is is is present as
collagen or something even in in even in
lean meat cuz Yeah, that's how that's
how it it's supposed to be. And you are
also not supposed to be like super lean
and in your muscle it should be present.
So you should consume it.
>> Still some animal fat in it. And there's
certainly animal protein in it. And if
anybody's watched or read anything from
T. Colin Campbell.
>> Oh yeah.
I know. I saw your old videos. you met
um all these doctors that I don't agree with
with
and all these famous people or or something.
something.
>> You will see the association with
increased animal meat or animal protein
>> Again, you're talking about processed meats.
meats. Yeah.
Yeah.
You you just don't seem to get it.
So he talked about it being you could
>> I don't care what he talked I know this
campable or something. Yeah. Durian liar
keeps bringing him up calling Campbell
or something. I
I
I think that uh they just wrote this
book for money.
>> You will see the association with
increased animal meat or animal protein
meant increased rate of cancer. So he
talked about it being
>> I'm not defending bad quality meat. Okay.
Okay.
>> You can turn it on and you can turn it
off. If I can get all the nutrients I
need from plants alone, why wouldn't
>> you could get it maybe from um a plant
that it's from another planet, okay? But
not the ones that it's on planet Earth,
okay? cuz no plant on planet Earth is
going to be good enough for you that um
that it would replace meat when u when
let's say okay whatever I'm I'm just not
going to say that yeah let's just listen
what else you have to say
>> I do that instead the only reason a lot
of people keep meat in is because of
taste and
>> taste is the nutrients you can taste the
nutrients okay if it if you would bring
me some type of lamb like labm made
aroma or something of meat, I would
instantly tell that yeah the taste is
not enough. I I need those molecular
structures and
and sometimes uh even to me like the
best quality muscle meat that I can get,
it doesn't taste good and that means
that I'm not I don't need those
nutrients. But if I don't have it for
one or two days, I'm craving it. And it
tastes like the best meat ever. Okay.
So, um I I guess you're just unaware of
this, but um yeah, the taste is is also
the the nutrients, but it never happens
to me that I'm hungry. and um something
um something that um how to put it
like let's say on certain days I just
don't crave liver and that means I I
just I just had enough maybe I'm I'm
having more more fat on that day or something.
something.
I don't know how to put it
>> tradition and it's what they grew up on
and my aunt made me something special
and I'm going to
>> Exactly. They grew up on meat. And it's
disrespectful to your ancestors to to
question it and um and and um to look
down upon that diet that they had and
they had it to to um to actually thrive.
Okay. And uh
I done the experiments and um I I I I do
agree that um what my what my parents
fed me was 100% healthier than any vegan diet.
diet.
>> They eat this. And there's
this is the controversy.
I don't find that there's a whole lot
wrong in being plant-based
almost all the time in your life and
then being the person that relaxes their values.
values.
Because if that'll get that person to
eat far fewer animals than going to the extreme,
extreme,
>> people's values are all just messed up
and they like rearranged in in in in
like different ways just so they they
try to cope with this but it's all
brainwash in the end of the day cuz they
all try to explain themselves with some
type of logic
but u they suffer and then they get
angry at me or something. end of vegan
which is such a small you know s such a
small percentage of us. I would >> luckily
>> luckily
>> rather that person get rid of most of
the animal products and then that one
time they go off to France and they just
have to have that treat then let them.
And let's not guilt trip people either. Uh
Uh
>> I'm not trying to guilt trip you. I'm I
truly mean uh the best for you and um
and that's why I took my time to explain
it, but uh yeah, I I I think you're just
u too deep into this books that you read
or something. I know it's an ethical
thing for a lot of vegans to want to
make sure animal exploitation is
completely zero. And I get that
especially when they relate it to things
like oh only a little bit of
>> um I'm gonna say it um no no life of the
animal matters more to me than my life.
like my health is is the most important
to me
and after that yeah you we can take care
of the animals and not kill them as much
but um until I'm I'm hungry or something
I need to satisfy my hunger and um get
my nutritional needs and only animals
can give me that so u yeah they are food
and that's that there's no hard feelings
about that
>> rapes okay only a little bit of murder
is okay That's the equivalent.
>> Not a little bit. It it it needs to be
enough. Okay. You need to be satisfied
and you you you have to get your
nutritional needs.
>> Um point that they're trying to make.
And while I see the point, just know
that most humans, most people don't put
animals on this. Here's another reason
why I went vegan back in the days for
the first time. It was simply because
sometimes I felt like the meat is um not
good quality enough. It didn't taste
good. It didn't taste good also because
it was cooked. Like come on. Cooked meat
like well done.
And maybe it wasn't good quality
sometimes or something. I don't know.
It just doesn't taste right. And um you
that's why people need to add all these
spices and
strong flavors and everything because um
yeah it's simply bad quality and they
try to give it like a different flavor.
And uh I do agree that um some vegan
foods taste better than that cooked meat
on on occasion just because you're
craving different micronutrients that
you would get from raw meat and that's
why you you are going towards
plant-based options. I remember being
curious about um what it was like
chickpea burgers or something and um I
asked my parents to make me some and
they made made it for me and I wasn't
looking at it that hey I'm now vegan or
something. I was just looking at it that
um I could imagine myself having
sometimes some uh chickpea burgers
instead of real meat burgers just
because the real meat sometimes it it
just doesn't taste that good as good
especially in cooked form and for me
back then raw meat like there was no
option. I didn't even knew uh where the
meat comes from. Like I there was no
actual uh YouTube channels like this one
like mine that actually documents you to
try only a little bit or something to
experiment with it if it's if it's good
to eat it raw or something like there
was no such an option for me. So instead
of me eating like cooked meat maybe I
ate some type of plant-based options.
But if if uh we were not living in this
brainwashed world or something and um
Rome it was like normal to eat then um
yeah I would probably never go near u
chickpea burgers because um yeah the
meat would be already good enough and we
would not eat need to eat bread and all
that garbage of starches. I I hate
starches man. same level as humans and I
don't think they're going to change their
their
>> just interrupting again. Um yeah, I had
I had one potato like one or two days
ago. It was so disappointing.
I'm definitely never buying potato
again. I don't know why. I I don't know.
For some reason, I was just missing it
and yeah, whatever. But potato is super disappointing.
disappointing.
>> Mine. So for a lot of vegans, it just
sucks and they you know what? You kind
of just have to get over it. And that's
where I've been.
>> Sorry. What? What? What sucks?
>> Don't put animals on the same level as
humans. And I don't think they're going
to change their minds. So, for a lot of
vegans, it just sucks. And they, you
know what? You kind of just have to get
over it. And that's where I've been. I
used to be a very angry vegan. But also,
I think a lot of meateers just need to
stop pushing their agenda on the vegans.
I don't
>> I'm never going to leave a comment
again. Like, I just I just left those
those few uh trying to It's always
tempting for me to try to change uh
people's minds and to come back to their
senses, but if I can't do it, then I'm
just going to give up. And uh yeah u
yeah, I'm not going to leave any more
comments. That's it. It was just my
first few comments and you need to calm
down. It's not like I'm going to u to
just push u my agenda or something that
you call it's not agenda. This is
reality. Okay. This is what we eat in
nature and this is what your ancestors
ate in nature and um
you can try to reinvent it or come up
with new food ideas or something but it
it's just not going to work. Okay. it
it's like it's like you you no longer
want to be a human being and you don't
want to eat what what humans eat in
nature. You're trying to reinvent it to
eat those lentils or or something. Okay.
It's like
it's like you want to be like a
different species or something, but
you're not a different species. You're
you're a human being. And this is what
humans eat in nature. Okay? And in
nature when they take it out, it is it's
still pumping. Okay. And um yeah, it
looks a lot more flavorful than than
this one. This one stayed in in at the
botchers for like I don't know I don't
know for how long. It's still fresh.
Okay. It tasted perfectly fine. But I
bet it tastes even better when it's
freshly harvested.
Just like freshly harvested fruit
directly from the tree that was tree
ripen. Exactly like that. It's it this
this tastes better when it's freshly harvested
harvested
when Yeah. I I don't want to talk about
more details. Okay.
>> I don't see why anybody would want to
force or try and get a
>> I'm not forcing you. Did I come to you
and was forcing you to eat whatever? I'm
I'm never like like like trying to push
to eat this or that. I get it that it's
not comfortable. you you just you're
just not going to be from from this
brainwashed word. You're just not going
to be comfortable eating this. Okay?
You're you're just not going to sit down
and have a meal like this. You're not
going to have this ju like this is like
like some some people's portion of rice
or something like this is my rice and
this is my beetroot. Okay. Or what else
other example I can give?
Okay. You're just not you you probably
going to eat the graphuit or something.
Um yeah, you probably would eat the
cheese cuz yeah, you're comfortable, but
you the thing that is in the middle like
like this liver and this minced meat,
you're just not going to be comfortable
enough to to just sit down and eat it.
You just need to get over it in your
head first and and realize that this is
I I guess you're just having a
comfortable life or something, but I
when when you're like more stressed out
or something. Yeah, you just come back
more to your senses and uh and and you
realize that something is wrong and this
is the food that we are meant to be
eating. I I I get it. The dairy part.
I'm not saying the dairy is is uh like
like what you see here on my plate. This
is um
it was fior de alpi cheese and pecorino
romano. This is the pecorino romano.
This is the fior de alpi. Okay. It's not
going to be as healthy as as liver and
and as this fresh minced meat.
it might contain certain um extra
nutrients because um like calcium or
something because simply that's
accumulated in the milk and from the a
cheese you get certain things
but yeah whatever it overall this is
what you see in the middle the meat part
and the organ it yeah it's a lot more nutritious
nutritious
>> another person who's eating plant-based
and they're healthy And after all, I'm
not pushing this like you you must eat
this or something. I get it that u yeah
some people would be like comfortable
maybe eating it cooked or something and
just less cooked. It's it's something
that you you kind of need to be rewired
to and um believe me that this is far
more uh appetizing like far more
appetizing than eating some kale, okay?
or some potato. Like I can't imagine
myself there. Now, let me show you my
potato meal. Um, where is it? Right
here. Okay. Yeah, here's my potato meal.
I just just place like some butter on
top. And that's the only way for me to
consume potato. like you you need to put
some type of animal fat on top or something
to try and acknowledge or eat meat
occasionally even
like what's the point in trying to get
somebody to lessen their values?
It's one thing if you were trying
>> your values are messed up.
>> Trying to improve their ethical values,
but to lessen it when there's no need
for it, I don't get it.
>> There's total need for it. But yeah, okay.
okay.
>> The only other thing I could see is from
more of a selfish standpoint, and that
might not be it. I'm just
>> Yes. Um I agree that it is totally
selfish to eat meat and you should be
selfish in that way that your nutrition
your like your health is more important
than the health of the animal guessing.
But if if you feel the need to justify
your own choices in your diet, then you
don't need to try and justify it by
trying to get vegans to eat meat. But
>> you know what? It's actually um I I
would actually be like um angry if
tomorrow I went to the store or to the
butcher or something and I wanted to to
buy certain animal products and it
wasn't in stock anymore because I made a
video how hurt it is and now people have
changed and uh yeah now my my meat is
out of stock and the organs of out of
stock and bone marrow is out of stock
and liver is out of stock because my
video went viral and now everybody's
buying it. Um, and they all go to the to
the places where I go to and everything
is out of stock. And what am I supposed
to eat now? I am I supposed to eat some
vegan food or something? Like, come on, man.
man.
I I I
guess I'm selfish in this way, but I'm
not selfish in that way to tell you that
what is actually healthy for you. But,
uh, yeah.
This is my point that yeah, I I would
not be happy if u if it wasn't in stock
anymore what I what I really want to eat.
eat.
>> That doesn't make sense. So just let
them be their ethical selves.
>> Yeah, I let you be whatever diet you
want to be. Like u it's not like I'm I'm
gonna make like 10 videos or something.
I I tried like different ways in the
past to make a videos to explain it and
uh it never really worked. If it did
work, I I could see vegans that uh left
some comments then they deleted it
because I guess it made some type of
sense to them and maybe they um they uh
went back to their drawing board and try
to figure out and maybe they are no
longer vegan or something. That's the
best case scenario.
But um I I I believe that in some ways I
awakened some type of reality in them to
to realize that veganism is not the way.
And um I admit that I want to end
veganism. I I want veganism to be like
non-existent like totally. Yeah. And um
uh you can call me like the high carb,
lowfat uh vegan diet destroyer because I
want to completely destroy it. And u I
don't ever want it to to be like a
popular thing or something. Yeah, that's
that's my plan
>> through life. And if that means they're
going to be unhealthy for it,
>> I want to spread the truth and um I want
people to just just no longer be vegan.
Yeah, that's my plan.
>> Let it be, you know, just let it.
>> And I'm not It's not like I'm going to
to u like push it and and force it upon
themselves or something. I'm I'm just
going to make videos and Yeah.
>> E let them be unhealthy. Some like
>> Yeah. Um some people are just Yeah. It's
like it's natural selection. Some of us
went and changed our diet assuming it
would be less healthy for us until we
did the research starting with Caldwell
Esston. um going to uh T. Colin
Campbell, going to Neil Barnard, like
>> yeah, the Campbell and the Neil Bernard
who I I I don't know. Yeah, I have a
very low opinion on them.
>> Researching all these guys,
>> they deserve zero respect.
>> And then seeing what people from the
blue zones, what they're doing, right?
Seeing what people were thriving on. So,
it sounds like this person,
>> nobody was thriving on that. Just
because um you get like a burst of
energy some from some carbs. Just
because until now you were like afraid
of carbs or something. Oh yeah. This is
this is one psychological trick that
durian liar and all these people that
promote carbs or something do. So let's
see. People are afraid of carbs. Then
they hear from durian liar or from
whatever doctor that carbs are okay.
Then they have some carbs and they get a
burst of energy just because um sugar it
absorbs it absorbs fast and yeah it it
does increase your energy like I'm it's
no denial that that carbs increase
energy and now they think that oh my
days it's so healthy. Yeah, whatever,
man. Um, I I never was in denial about
that cuz I realized on at very young age
that if I have some some nice fresh
fruit juice or even fruit juice from the
store, I do get like a burst of energy.
Okay. And yeah, I do feel healthier in
that moment. And yeah, that's all carbs
are like like fast energy or something
and that's all they are. It's not like
something that is going to maintain your health.
health.
believes in the high carb, low-fat diet
and just having the occasional meat. I
think that's where they're at just from
these comments. Um, and if that's you,
you know, live your life. >> Exactly.
>> Exactly.
That's exactly what I believe in. Not
necessarily high carb carbs as much as
you you as you crave. And um the number
is going to be much lower when when
you're consuming raw meat.
>> You're doing a decent job probably not
promoting eating meat three times a day
like most people are.
>> I maybe I don't even need to eat three
times a day. Okay.
Yeah. Uh, I guess I'm doing better job
than those who promote like strict carnivore
carnivore
um like like with cooked meat and they
need to eat like three five meals where
they eat like every meal they eat like
five steaks or something like No, I'm
not eating that much. I'm I eat as much
as I need, but I eat it raw and I do add fruit.
fruit.
>> We don't need more people promoting
meat. We need more people. But meat is
the definition of nutrition. Okay? Carbs
and whatever is just a source of energy.
The way you should look at carbs, it's
it's like charging your phone and um the
way should you you look at meat and
organs and all of that, it's like that.
Those are the the building blocks like
the the
it's the material that is made out of
your the like the
again let me let me put it again. So the
carbs are like charging your phone and
meat and organs is like is like the
metal parts and all of that of the of the of the internal parts of the phone.
the of the internal parts of the phone. Okay. you you do need also to maintain
Okay. you you do need also to maintain it. It's like the software and all of
it. It's like the software and all of that. That's that's that's how how you
that. That's that's that's how how you should look at it.
should look at it. Just carbs and and plants is just not
Just carbs and and plants is just not enough.
enough. promoting sustainable plant-based
promoting sustainable plant-based starchbased
starchbased >> it's sustainable because you I admit
>> it's sustainable because you I admit that uh being on high carb lowfat vegan
that uh being on high carb lowfat vegan diet and occasionally having some type
diet and occasionally having some type of u u vegan mock meats it's somewhat
of u u vegan mock meats it's somewhat better than um than um than than other
better than um than um than than other types of vegans who just on on total
types of vegans who just on on total eating disorder. Okay.
eating disorder. Okay. Like let's say um the the people that
Like let's say um the the people that are like like just just eating fully raw
are like like just just eating fully raw plants or something or they they try to
plants or something or they they try to do some type of vegan keto thing.
do some type of vegan keto thing. But it's still it's it's not satisfying
But it's still it's it's not satisfying and that's why you you need to fill
and that's why you you need to fill yourself off with with so much volume of
yourself off with with so much volume of kale and potatoes.
kale and potatoes. I don't know. I I could not eat your
I don't know. I I could not eat your meals. That's 100%. I know you you look
meals. That's 100%. I know you you look at my meals and you're like, "Yeah, you
at my meals and you're like, "Yeah, you cannot eat it." But um trust me, this
cannot eat it." But um trust me, this this is what what humans eat in nature
this is what what humans eat in nature and not what you eat.
and not what you eat. >> Diets. I also had another thought on the
>> Diets. I also had another thought on the whole thing. If the idea of a perfect
whole thing. If the idea of a perfect vegan diet is keeping you in that place
vegan diet is keeping you in that place where you feel you have to reintroduce
where you feel you have to reintroduce meat to be healthy again, then maybe you
meat to be healthy again, then maybe you are going too extreme.
are going too extreme. Maybe you need to have rice and beans
Maybe you need to have rice and beans and avocado and all those.
and avocado and all those. >> Never avocado. Yeah, sure. I can have
>> Never avocado. Yeah, sure. I can have some avocado.
some avocado. >> Other plant-based foods that are still
>> Other plant-based foods that are still healthy for you.
healthy for you. Um, stop.
Um, stop. >> But I never going to have rice and beans
>> But I never going to have rice and beans or whatever.
or whatever. >> Stop with the all fruit diet. Stop with
>> Stop with the all fruit diet. Stop with just the fruit and vegetables. Diagnose
just the fruit and vegetables. Diagnose yourself. Are you somebody prone to the
yourself. Are you somebody prone to the eating disorders? Are you somebody who
eating disorders? Are you somebody who tries to purposely undereat by a lot
>> because you are seeking a certain kind of body. If you
of body. If you >> No, I I don't chase like any type of
>> No, I I don't chase like any type of ideal body or something.
ideal body or something. >> You're struggling with this concept and
>> You're struggling with this concept and you think you need meat to be healthy.
you think you need meat to be healthy. Know that it might not be the meat.
Know that it might not be the meat. >> It doesn't matter what you think or what
>> It doesn't matter what you think or what I think. In the end of the day, that's
I think. In the end of the day, that's what humans eat in nature and that's
what humans eat in nature and that's what we need to thrive
what we need to thrive >> that you needed. But the calories that
>> that you needed. But the calories that you are finally allowing,
you are finally allowing, >> but you don't you can't have an opinion
>> but you don't you can't have an opinion about this. Okay? Like you just can't
about this. Okay? Like you just can't have an opinion about something that you
have an opinion about something that you did not try. I already told you that you
did not try. I already told you that you have not tried my food.
have not tried my food. Whatever. I hope you watched this video
Whatever. I hope you watched this video until the end and I I hope it you you
until the end and I I hope it you you learned something from it
learned something from it >> yourself when you eat meat. So
>> yourself when you eat meat. So >> what if I what if what do I have to do
>> what if I what if what do I have to do when I eat meat?
when I eat meat? >> Know that it might not be the meat that
>> Know that it might not be the meat that you needed but the calories that you are
you needed but the calories that you are finally allowing yourself.
finally allowing yourself. >> It's not just the calories. It's the
>> It's not just the calories. It's the micronutrients that I'm getting that u
micronutrients that I'm getting that u yeah are definitely um are definitely
yeah are definitely um are definitely more present in in meat than in u than
more present in in meat than in u than in your plants. and some of it you
in your plants. and some of it you you're just never going to ever have
you're just never going to ever have that type of nutritious nutritious food
that type of nutritious nutritious food that I'm having if you're just just not
that I'm having if you're just just not having exactly what I'm having.
having exactly what I'm having. No matter how much plants you eat and no
No matter how much plants you eat and no matter how much good quality or whatever
matter how much good quality or whatever and where you uh export it from or where
and where you uh export it from or where did you order your your plants from,
did you order your your plants from, it's just not going to be the same.
it's just not going to be the same. Okay?
Okay? when you eat meat. So,
when you eat meat. So, whenever I see people like failing on a
whenever I see people like failing on a vegan diet, I tend to notice that they
vegan diet, I tend to notice that they are the the extreme type. They've gone
are the the extreme type. They've gone to certain extremes. And going to a no
to certain extremes. And going to a no >> what you eat is also extreme. I I see it
>> what you eat is also extreme. I I see it extremely extreme. Just green leaves
extremely extreme. Just green leaves like come on. Green leaves and potatoes.
>> Fat diet is an extreme diet. It's even extreme within veganism. So
extreme within veganism. So >> yeah, what is extreme? Eating raw meat.
>> yeah, what is extreme? Eating raw meat. I I guess that's what what she means.
I I guess that's what what she means. Then there's no help for you if you see
Then there's no help for you if you see that as extreme.
that as extreme. >> If that's where you're at and you feel
>> If that's where you're at and you feel you need to reintroduce the animal
you need to reintroduce the animal products, maybe reintroduce the higher
products, maybe reintroduce the higher calorie plant foods.
calorie plant foods. >> Like what? Like rice.
>> Like what? Like rice. >> Eat sandwiches.
>> Eat sandwiches. sandwiches with bread.
sandwiches with bread. Come on. I did not eat bread like like
Come on. I did not eat bread like like since uh since I since I went on this
since uh since I since I went on this cuz cuz simply bread
cuz cuz simply bread represents like like lean meat. Come on.
represents like like lean meat. Come on. That's what it it represents. But it's
That's what it it represents. But it's it's just not as satisfying.
it's just not as satisfying. >> Eat burritos.
>> Eat burritos. >> Burritos.
Another weed product. like like the thing the the circle thing it's like a
thing the the circle thing it's like a wheat whatever
wheat whatever >> have some vegan pizza
>> have some vegan pizza >> vegan pizza
>> vegan pizza I admit that I had delicious vegan
I admit that I had delicious vegan pizzas but since I'm having real cheese
pizzas but since I'm having real cheese I just just no longer crave it
I just just no longer crave it >> there are plenty of unhealthy vegans out
>> there are plenty of unhealthy vegans out there are plenty of vegans who eat
there are plenty of vegans who eat enough food all right you don't need to
enough food all right you don't need to go to extremes
go to extremes >> yeah I read this uh today that um some
>> yeah I read this uh today that um some high or lowfat vegans said that you just
high or lowfat vegans said that you just need to eat more calories and then your
need to eat more calories and then your nutritions nutritional needs are just
nutritions nutritional needs are just met.
I I I guess in some ways you just just try trying to uh mentally like like get
try trying to uh mentally like like get me tired and to just give in. But um
me tired and to just give in. But um yeah, I'm I'm just not going to listen
yeah, I'm I'm just not going to listen to it.
to it. >> And if you felt better eating the lean
>> And if you felt better eating the lean meat, that might have been you. It's
meat, that might have been you. It's just something.
just something. >> It's not just me. It's all human beings.
>> It's not just me. It's all human beings. Let's hear what you have to say.
Let's hear what you have to say. >> You felt better eating the lean meat.
>> You felt better eating the lean meat. That might have been you. It's just
That might have been you. It's just something to think about.
something to think about. >> I just took delivery.
>> I just took delivery. >> Wait, man. I didn't want it to switch.
>> Wait, man. I didn't want it to switch. >> Have the occasion.
>> Have the occasion. >> Um, yeah, whatever. Um, yeah, it might
>> Um, yeah, whatever. Um, yeah, it might have been just me. No, it's all human
have been just me. No, it's all human beings. like this is what it my diet
beings. like this is what it my diet works for all human beings and if 98% of
works for all human beings and if 98% of the population would disagree with me or
the population would disagree with me or whatever man whatever percentage I don't
whatever man whatever percentage I don't agree I I don't care about it uh I am
agree I I don't care about it uh I am right and they are all wrong. Uh yeah we
right and they are all wrong. Uh yeah we can end the video right here and right
can end the video right here and right now. Thanks for watching.
