0:06 so if a Muslim or Jehovah's Witness both
0:08 of whom are Arians
0:10 Arians
0:14 say you got this translation wrong it
0:16 really shouldn't say the word
0:20 was God it should say the word was well
0:24 Godlike or a God and Prof great prophet great
0:25 great
0:28 Angel and then God used him for great
0:31 things you can know that's not
0:35 true just because of verse
0:39 three we can show them
0:44 this says in verse three first all
0:47 things were made through him now you
0:50 might think that's enough right there
0:53 that's enough he's not a creature he
0:56 created creatures is not enough all
0:59 things were made through him but they
1:03 will surely say well not really because
1:05 when it says all things were made
1:09 through him of course the one who made
1:14 all things is excluded from the all
1:19 things and is himself then
1:21 made and you might say just on the basis
1:24 of that well it's not obvious to me that
1:28 he's ex excluded from I mean that
1:31 he's not the the one who makes creatures
1:35 rather than being in the all things made
1:37 because it doesn't look like he's in the
1:40 all things made he made all
1:43 things if it were just left at that
1:45 you'd have an argument and you'd go on
1:52 that he went on to say this
1:54 this
1:57 and without
2:01 him was not anything
2:04 made that was
2:06 was
2:09 made why' you do
2:14 that why did God Inspire him to repeat
2:17 himself and then
2:19 add without
2:30 category if he's in the maid category
2:32 he had to make
2:35 himself if you don't exist you can't
2:41 being I don't think you need to know any
2:43 Greek you don't need to go to Thomas
2:46 though that might help Hebrews 1 might
2:48 help Romans 9 might
2:52 help Colossians 2 might help the deity
2:56 of Jesus Christ the godness of Jesus is
2:58 pervasive in the New Testament but all
3:01 you need to do is push with all your
3:02 might on verse
3:05 three and say I think the way verse
3:09 three is constructed without him was not anything
3:11 anything
3:14 made that was
3:17 made everything in the made category
3:21 Angels whatever he made it so he can't
3:23 be in that
3:28 category end of argument see you later
3:30 one little thing you might try with
3:32 Jehovah's Witnesses at the
3:34 door because I don't think we should
3:36 play games I think we should care about
3:37 their souls I don't think they're
3:40 Believers I don't think they're
3:43 Christian so my tactic now I've done
3:46 this for years in nearing the door bell
3:48 they have their magazine whatever and I
3:51 say I I I think I understand where
3:53 you're coming from I've talked to to
3:57 Jehovah's Witnesses a lot um I'm I'm a
4:00 Christian who believes deeply that Jesus
4:03 Christ is not a mere Angel and that he
4:05 is very God a very God I know you don't
4:08 believe that so I don't want to get into
4:10 a discussion but I would like to pray
4:13 for you and if you would just bow with
4:16 me let's ask Jesus to come and show us
4:18 who's right here I have never had one of
4:22 them let me do that never one old man
4:26 ran as fast as he could off my porch so
4:29 I that's just my my suggestion is that
4:33 if you don't have time to sit down and
4:35 and talk about what I just said I really
4:38 mean this with all my heart I believe
4:42 Jesus will show up like on Mount
4:46 Carmel and they know he might show up
4:48 and none of them has ever said well fine
5:00 here Christ was not
5:02 not
