0:02 is what can this possibly mean well
0:04 i was thinking about that in
0:06 relationship to imagery of the crucifix
0:08 and the story that surrounds it so jung
0:10 thought that the
0:12 passion story was archetypal because
0:13 because
0:16 it's a limit story like this
0:19 this debate at oxford
0:21 you cannot write a more tragic story
0:24 it's impossible technically why
0:26 well because it's a story of the
0:27 aggregation of everything that people
0:29 are afraid of
0:31 so there was no death more painful than
0:33 crucifixion that's why the romans
0:35 invented it it was to punish political
0:37 miscreants it was the slow agonizing
0:41 death by suffocation essentially and and
0:44 and dehydration and exposure it's
0:46 extraordinarily painful okay so
0:49 that sucks that's pain man plus you know
0:51 it's coming that's part of the story plus
0:52 plus
0:54 your best friend betrayed you into it
0:57 plus your people turned against you plus
0:59 they're led by a tyrant who doubts truth
1:01 plus you're a victim of the roman empire
1:04 plus you're completely innocent plus
1:06 everybody knows it
1:08 plus they they choose a criminal to be
1:10 released from this experience instead of
1:11 you even though they know he's a
1:14 criminal and they know you're innocent
1:16 so and you're young
1:18 and you've done no wrong and all you've
1:20 done is help people
1:22 so it's a limit story
1:24 okay so then you think
1:26 we've been looking at that limit story
1:29 for 2000 years in the image and in the
1:31 story what are we doing
1:32 well you're supposed to visit the
1:34 stations of the cross let's say okay
1:35 here's the idea
1:38 you hear the crucifixion story
1:44 maybe if you're female you're mary and
1:46 why is that the pieda because you have
1:47 to offer your children to the
1:50 destruction of the world
1:52 that's female courage that's the mother
1:54 that doesn't hold your child back it's
1:57 like go out to what
1:59 eventually your death and destruction
2:00 go out
2:03 leave me be in the world that's feminine
2:07 courage man to let her baby go
2:10 you're a pilot you doubt truth
2:11 but you're
2:13 you'll go along with the crowd you're
2:15 judas because you betray your
2:17 best friend
2:18 you're the mob
2:20 you're the criminal
2:22 all of that that's you
2:25 you look on all those things that you
2:27 hate and are terrified by
2:30 that's like that's not a snake it's like
2:32 the worst of all possible snakes everywhere
2:33 everywhere
2:36 that's what you're looking at what do
2:38 you see
2:40 you see death you see destruction pain
2:42 terror tyranny
2:44 frailty betrayal
2:46 look harder
2:47 look harder
2:48 look harder
2:51 what do you see
2:54 the death and resurrection
2:56 you look far enough into the abyss you
2:58 see the light
3:00 well that's the story that's the
3:02 connection between those stories and
3:05 this unbelievably strange thing is is
3:07 that connection exists it's like
3:09 there's the strange story of the serpent
3:11 in the desert and we know that story is
3:13 3000 years old something like that we
3:14 know that
3:17 and then we know perfectly well that
3:20 christ said that he was allied that his
3:21 image was allied with that snake that's
3:23 written down and even if you don't
3:24 believe in the historical reality of christ
3:25 christ
3:28 someone still made that connection