0:03 All right, everyone. If you can hear me,
0:06 give me a thumbs up or a yes or
0:08 something in chat, please. I am just
0:10 getting used to the streaming software,
0:12 and this is only my second stream, so
0:14 I'm going to need your help tonight and
0:16 some patience for sure. I'm going give
0:25 I see we have split hair with lots of
0:33 All right, you can hear me good.
0:37 Awesome. Hey, Glenn. Hey, Robert. Wanda Bell,
0:40 Bell,
0:43 that sounds familiar. Do you watch New
0:50 give people a few minutes to get in. And
0:52 um if you're not really sure what we're
0:55 doing here today,
0:57 a very uh interesting gentleman
0:59 contacted me and said that he had
1:03 modeled the entire UVU area around the
1:05 courtyard and he went up it
1:06 significantly from there, which you
1:07 probably won't see from anyone else
1:09 until they see this video and then
1:12 they'll try and copy it. But um he is
1:15 also here with me. So he is in the chat,
1:18 he is also in the live stream. So, if
1:20 you have questions for him after we get
1:23 done showing kind of what he's built and
1:24 looking at different angles and things,
1:26 you are more than welcome to ask him
1:28 questions. So, if you have questions,
1:30 put them in the chat and I'll have the
1:33 producer kind of mark some that he can
1:35 address after the fact.
1:37 And I will warn you, he does have a
1:39 thick accent. I believe he's from
1:43 Holland. Uh, so that may make it a
1:44 little interesting, but he speaks very
1:52 And let me see if he is.
2:00 >> Hi. Hello. Yeah, I'm here. Can anyone
2:01 hear me?
2:03 >> Can you guys hear him? Can you do a
2:05 thumbs up or a yes if you can hear Pete? Okay.
2:12 >> Nice to having me and uh spread some uh
2:20 All right, looks like a yes. So, they
2:23 can hear you. They can hear me. All
2:25 right. So, I think we will go ahead and
2:28 get started. So, what I wanted to kind
2:30 of do was uh give him a chance to tell
2:32 you how he kind of created this model.
2:34 So, Peter, if you want to give him the
2:36 the way you actually created it, not
2:38 necessarily the analysis yet. Um, and
2:39 then we'll jump right into the uh the
2:41 model itself and some of your video.
2:43 >> Yeah, it's a little bit of a story. I
2:48 started to uh model up. At first I I I
2:52 started to look in a way to import a map
2:56 from Google Earth into SketchUp.
3:05 to build my own uh model, you know, that
3:08 took me like three, four, five days
3:12 and then I was I was not satisfied. it
3:14 didn't give me the good look, you know.
3:17 And then I Googled again. I searched, I
3:19 searched and then I came across a website
3:20 website
3:25 that you can uh put the data in. And
3:29 then uh this website convert uh your
3:34 data in into a usable SketchUp file.
3:35 >> So now,
3:37 >> so now this is this is to scale as well, correct?
3:37 correct?
3:40 >> Yeah, this is from a open street map. So
3:44 it's it's perfectly to scale.
3:45 >> All right. Awesome. So let's go ahead
3:47 and jump into your video and then uh we
3:49 will jump into the model itself. >> Yes.
3:51 >> Yes.
3:53 >> All right. Give me just one second. Like
3:54 I said, I'm learning this new software
3:57 as we go along here.
4:04 Jesus Christ. because whether or not he
4:05 shot through this crack right here,
4:08 which again is very it looks very small
4:11 on on on Google Maps right now, but it's
4:13 actually like a foot and a half to 2 ft
4:15 wide. Uh people who are there in person
4:17 let me know that's actually much wider
4:20 than it looks. And so if I'm a shooter,
4:22 >> now this is range J range day bro. And a
4:24 lot of you have seen not only his uh
4:26 ballistic dummy test he did recently,
4:28 but he's been on many shows and he's
4:30 been talking about this this idea of
4:32 shooting from this part of the building
4:35 down into hit Charlie Kirk. And along
4:36 with that and many other theories, we're
4:37 going to kind of look into that from
4:39 various angles. And I think this
4:41 modeling puts that to rest. Um it kind
4:43 of puts a bow on that. But let's keep going.
4:44 going.
4:45 >> And I want to stay out of the sight of
4:46 everybody. I might be up against this
4:49 wall here with a tripod or I might just
4:50 be prone out on the top of this and
4:52 shooting over the top. But either way,
4:54 this matches the bullet trajectory that
4:56 is most likely for the exit wound where
4:58 we saw in the front of Charlie's neck.
5:00 Okay, so he's saying that you're
5:01 shooting from there anywhere up in this
5:03 area and it's going to have a exit wound
5:04 come out of the front. So, it's going to
5:06 hit from the back and come out of the
5:08 front or even if theoretically it went
5:10 from the side out through the front.
5:14 That's kind of his stance. All right.
5:16 and he didn't respond at all.
5:19 >> I still believe that this is the most
5:21 likely area of the shooter
5:23 >> and the next day.
5:26 >> So, quick backstory and I'll let Q talk
5:28 to this more, but he contacted Range Day
5:30 Bro and was telling him his thoughts on
5:31 it and showed him this uh was trying to
5:32 get him to see these models and things
5:35 and he never heard anything back.
5:37 And then, of course, Range Day Bro was
5:40 on uh Sean Atwood, which is a over a
5:42 million subscriber channel. one
5:43 particular location which I point out on
5:45 my channel which is directly to his back
5:47 right. There's a little probably a foot
5:49 wide crack between the buildings between
5:52 the balcony and um the balcony that I
5:53 originally had alleged the shooter might
5:54 have been on. Again, I was just
5:56 spitballing there in that video. I
5:58 should have used more clear terms, but
6:00 that is the spot I think would be most
6:01 advantageous because you're shooting
6:02 through a crack.
6:04 >> So, he's going around saying that he can
6:06 shoot through a crack on top of this
6:10 building and hit Charlie Kirk. And uh I
6:11 can't wait to show you this model. Now
6:14 this, you know, of course, is this model
6:16 perfectly perfect? I couldn't tell you,
6:18 but it's to scale from a Google Earth.
6:20 It's all their measurements. And then
6:21 everything else you see is also to
6:24 scale. All right. So, let's go to um
6:25 actually we won't do sound analysis yet.
6:27 We'll do that here in a moment. All
6:29 right. And then next, this kind of shows
6:35 >> so this kind of shows how he came up
6:38 with the scaling. He actually added the
6:39 tent and many other things to this. So
6:41 check this out.
6:45 >> I used the Google Earth to get the
6:48 dimensions of the tent.
6:59 and then I put this picture to.
7:01 >> So for people they're going to say this
7:02 isn't even to scale. The tent's not
7:04 right. Nothing's right. He actually went
7:06 in here and did measurements and got it
7:07 as close as you're going to get. Right.
7:09 So, he actually modeled the tent. And as
7:10 you'll see, he modeled a lot more >> scale.
7:20 Let me see here. That's about 15 m.
7:24 And then we can also measure the tent,
7:26 of course.
7:29 >> So, it's like 4 m wide.
7:31 >> Yep. So, he measured the tent and he
7:34 gets all that put in place. He also puts
7:36 shooters in place which is I thought was
7:39 a a very nice touch. And then from
7:41 various different positions and then
7:43 we're going to see some audio analysis.
7:45 But um what he did is he took some video
7:47 and he has he has a video and I'm going
7:48 to link it in the description when we're
7:50 done. Um so you can go check it out. I
7:52 highly recommend you go watch it. But he
7:53 does some analysis where from the
7:56 original FBI shooting location there
7:57 were people that had their phones and
7:59 they were recording. So he found that
8:01 video and based on other videos he found
8:03 where that person was located and that's
8:04 how these people are standing here. This
8:06 gentleman in the black shirt I believe
8:08 is the one that was filming. So when he
8:10 does this audio analysis it's based on
8:12 the location of this guy. So it's it's
8:13 probably a lot more accurate than some
8:15 of the other stuff that's out there. All
8:16 right. So now we're actually going to
8:19 look at the model itself. And I think
8:20 this is going to be the most interesting
8:37 right, give me one second. There we go.
8:38 Sorry. Like I said, I'm learning the
8:41 software here. All right, so this is
8:43 where it gets interesting. Now, this is
8:45 the UVU campus. Obviously, not all of
8:48 it, but it's the important part. So, as
8:50 we come in here, and everyone, if you
8:51 can, um, let me know if you can see the
8:52 model and everything. I want to make
8:55 sure I'm on the actual right, uh, right
8:57 part of the stage here.
8:59 in the chat to say I can see the model
9:01 or something similar.
9:09 I'm guessing you can see it since Jordan
9:11 mentioned that. All right. So, if you
9:14 come in here, you can see he has modeled
9:16 the tent.
9:18 He's modeled Charlie in there. Charlie
9:21 is sitting up on the elevated platform.
9:23 We have his security guard. Obviously,
9:26 this is just a a human being. This is
9:27 just a render. This isn't the actual
9:29 guy. Um, and then Charlie's kind of his
9:31 location. Even details like the
9:33 microphone is there. Um, I mean, it's
9:35 it's it's very complete. And then this
9:38 is the guy over here in the black who's
9:40 recording. And then if you if I kind of
9:43 zoom out from here
9:46 and get in here.
9:49 Give me a second. Here we go. I'm still
9:50 learning the controls on this software,
9:52 too. Um, but if you zoom out, you can
9:54 see there's shooters in multiple
9:56 locations. So, this first location,
9:58 we'll cover this one first.
10:02 This is the official FBI narrative
10:05 location. So,
10:07 he's laying here. Um, doesn't really
10:10 matter which of these peaks that he was
10:11 on or even necessarily which part of
10:14 this building, he has line of sight. And
10:20 So, if you go here and you follow it
10:22 down, you can see he has clear line of
10:25 sight of Charlie out there. And uh Q
10:27 actually modeled the gun trajectory as
10:29 well. Obviously, they don't move in a
10:30 perfect straight line, but you get the
10:34 general idea that it would hit him and
10:36 he brought it all the way in to his
10:39 throat right there. So, in theory, if
10:41 that was the actual shot and everyone
10:44 believed all of that stuff, then yes, he
10:46 does have line of sight. So, now let's
10:49 go to I believe it was Peak Prosperity.
10:53 Uh Chris, Dr. Chris Um, he was talking
10:56 about this location, a possible
10:59 secondary location. It was not Tyler
11:02 Robinson. And that would be somewhat
11:04 over here.
11:05 All right. So, now we're looking at this
11:07 line of sight. Move this up a little
11:10 bit. Now, you can see that if a
11:12 location, you know, similar to this,
11:14 they have a, you know, they have a clear
11:15 line of sight. So, this this could have
11:18 been a possible another shot. And you
11:21 see with that straight line, it lands
11:24 basically in the same spot. So there's
11:26 different there there's different uh
11:28 vantage points from back there that
11:30 could certainly be plausible um as far
11:32 as the shot. Now obviously everyone
11:35 still questions the 30 6 narrative and
11:38 all of that stuff, but um anything
11:40 mostly back here on these buildings and
11:42 then up where they say Tyler Robinson
11:44 was is a you know pretty good line of
11:46 sight. But now I really want to cover
11:49 this because this is what I was kind of
11:53 questioning before from Range Day Bro.
11:54 He was saying that the shot came from
11:56 the rear right and I want to make sure
11:59 we cover this cuz it's pretty important.
12:00 I was questioning if you could actually
12:04 see inside the tent. Now, could you
12:06 shoot through the tent? Sure.
12:09 um would you want to risk possibly
12:12 missing that shot and just firing firing
12:15 the gun and missing and you know
12:16 everyone goes insane and you don't
12:18 accomplish your mission. I don't think
12:20 that would be a good look. So this would
12:23 be the vantage point of someone um this
12:25 as I mean you can pretty clearly see
12:26 it's going into the tent, right? So
12:28 that's what I was saying before is they
12:30 would have to shoot through the tent and
12:32 hope that they can actually hit Charlie
12:34 underneath. Now, if they fired from
12:37 there, theoretically, it would hit the
12:40 back of his neck. But you can see if it
12:42 hit here behind his ear, it's not going
12:44 to come out of the front. And I mean,
12:46 theoretically, I guess it could bounce
12:47 um inside, hit his vertebrae or
12:49 something, but it's going to go through
12:51 his head and go out the other side. So,
12:53 um that one and having to shoot through
12:57 the tent, I think, is probably
13:00 fairly unlikely. And then the famous
13:03 Range Day bro location, which again, I
13:05 apologize for the way I'm moving around
13:07 this uh this environment here, but all
13:09 right. Now, let's come over here. This
13:12 is the famous, you know, 6 and a half
13:14 million view video that went out and
13:17 looking at this.
13:18 Let's zoom in. Now, this is to scale,
13:20 right? So, this this human being here
13:22 and they got us to scale. So, let's look
13:24 at the official. This is what came out
13:26 on the Sea Atwood. This is the last
13:29 thing that he showed on his um his range
13:30 test when he did the the ballistic dummy.
13:32 dummy.
13:34 The shooter's anywhere anywhere here.
13:37 Anywhere on this location,
13:38 it he'd have to shoot through the
13:43 building. So, if I come over here, you
13:46 can see that that um the red is the line
13:48 of sight. So, if that's going through
13:51 and hitting Charlie, he would have to
13:53 shoot through the building itself.
13:55 So, in other words, you'd have to shoot
13:56 through the concrete and the steel and
14:00 everything else to uh to get over there.
14:03 Let me get this reset.
14:06 So, I see from this side, you can see
14:07 you'd have to shoot through the building
14:09 there. And I'll come down to uh
14:13 Charlie's vantage point if I can.
14:16 Let's see. Yeah. So this one here, this
14:19 going across, that would be where range
14:21 day bro, that building that he's on,
14:23 that's where he's saying that shot came
14:25 from to hit him behind his head and came
14:29 out of his throat. Um, clearly that's
14:31 not going to happen. Um, assuming all of
14:33 this stuff is to scale and properly
14:36 properly modeled and if that one did hit him,
14:38 him,
14:41 then you know, theoretically,
14:43 if he had that space, then it would come
14:45 out, you know, somewhere on the side of
14:47 his neck. And yes, in theory, it could
14:49 hit his vertebrae and bounce off and
14:52 come out of the front, you know, maybe.
14:54 But you have the problem of can a 30 out
14:56 6 or I guess in this case he's saying a
15:00 223 or 5.56 can that go through concrete
15:02 of the building and steel and then hit
15:04 Charlie. I think that's a pretty obvious
15:08 no. The other question people had was
15:09 what if they were standing up here on
15:12 this little I don't know if this is a
15:14 solar maybe solar panels or something
15:16 similar. So, if you're at this vantage
15:24 say here, you can't even see the tent.
15:26 So, that's definitely not going to be a
15:28 shot. And if you come up here onto the
15:31 top of this platform
15:34 and look down,
15:36 you can see the front of the tent, but
15:38 you definitely can't see Charlie.
15:39 There's no way you're shooting from there.
15:40 there.
15:44 So, again, um I think this is pretty eye opening.
15:45 opening.
15:47 assuming that this is, you know,
15:48 properly to scale, which it appears to
15:51 be. And this is kind of where my video
15:53 the other day, these were the people
15:55 that were standing here and were looking
15:59 out over the uh the courtyard
16:01 that possibly could have seen him from
16:04 the side. But even in that case, they
16:05 had to hold their phone over the edge.
16:07 If I come up here to where they're
16:09 actually standing,
16:10 if I'm standing here on this, let me
16:13 rotate a little bit.
16:15 If I'm standing here against the rail,
16:18 you can see I still can't see Charlie.
16:21 So, you know, again, assuming this
16:22 positioning and everything is correct,
16:24 which it looks like a lot of work went
16:26 into getting this right. Um, that
16:29 doesn't fit either. So, you know, that
16:31 raises more questions. But now, along
16:33 with these questions, let's look at some
16:35 of the audio analysis. And that makes
16:39 this even more interesting. Um, so
16:41 again, give me a second here. Still
17:04 And share my screen. Okay.
17:11 All right. Here we go. So this is uh
17:13 this first of this is Q's audio analysis
17:15 and then a lot of you have actually seen
17:19 um Audio Freak Audio Freaks it's FEQ
17:21 he's been on a few different shows and
17:23 um done some things and he he did some
17:26 pinpointing of stuff as well and uh they
17:28 kind of came to the same conclusion or
17:33 or very close. So um for anyone asking
17:35 it was SketchUp was the uh the program
17:38 and the model I believe. But, um, let's
17:39 let's listen to what he had to say about
17:41 the audio analysis.
17:44 I make sure I'm sharing this.
17:48 There we go. All right.
17:50 According to the story, we have a
17:53 shooter on the roof
17:55 and a target
17:59 on, let's say, 128 m, 419 ft. And the
18:03 so-called shooter used a rifle,
18:06 a mouser, and a bullet at a missile
18:16 That means the bullet hits the target in
18:25 and it takes about 370 milliseconds for
18:28 the sound to reach the target. And that
18:30 means if you are in the area of the target
18:32 target
18:34 then you always should see the impact first
18:36 first
18:39 and then the sound come after it not the
18:42 other way around.
18:44 So he's saying the order of the sonic
18:48 crack. So typically what happens is um
18:49 trying to say this in like a a
18:51 non-graphic way. So if you get shot by a
18:54 sniper, you get hit and maybe dead
18:55 before you even hear the sound of the
18:57 actual shot. And that's because the
18:58 bullet travels faster than the speed of
19:00 sound. So you get hit by the bullet
19:01 first and then the sound travels behind
19:03 it with what he's saying is he's saying
19:07 the audio does not match that type of uh
19:09 situation especially from that distance.
19:12 >> Let's have a closer look.
19:16 First we check if the video is in sync
19:18 with the sound. I will play this video
19:32 not counting gang violence.
19:36 >> Now we play it in a normal speed.
19:38 So, some of you were asking um about
19:40 like which video he sourced and that
19:41 kind of stuff. So, this is the video
19:43 where the guy standing there in the
19:45 front and uh he gives you distances and
19:46 things, but he's just making sure that
19:48 the audio is actually synced with the
19:51 video because in some videos it's not.
19:55 >> Not counting gang violence.
20:02 Not counting gang violence. We can see
20:05 the video is in sync with the sound. And
20:09 now we are going to load it in Vegas Pro
20:12 which uh have more precise measurements
20:16 than my Filora app.
20:19 I loaded the video in a correct version
20:28 That would be around here.
20:29 >> So, what he's doing is he's looking at
20:31 the distance between when Charlie
20:33 actually gets hit or it appears he gets
20:34 hit and when you actually hear the sound.
20:36 sound.
20:39 >> And now we move forward
21:01 It doesn't matter if we see the impact
21:04 125 milliseconds or 170 milliseconds
21:09 later. The fact is that we see the
21:13 impact after we hit the shot. And that
21:15 is impossible
21:19 unless you have a weapon with slower
21:20 missile velocity.
21:23 >> So he's saying that based on what he's
21:25 seen from the audio analysis, it looks
21:29 like they the shot is hitting him uh in
21:30 the wrong order, which means it could be
21:32 a closer shot or like he's saying it
21:34 could be a lower velocity type of weapon.
21:36 weapon.
21:39 >> Compared to the speed of sound, this is
21:42 what happened in the real world. We have
21:44 the sniper.
21:47 This red dot is the target
21:49 and the red dot on the right with the
21:52 speaker is when the sound hit the target.
22:01 So the bullet hit the target at 150 milliseconds
22:04 milliseconds
22:08 and then the sound hit the target
22:11 after about 370 milliseconds. But what
22:20 and it is off by like 300 milliseconds
22:23 or almost a third of a second.
22:25 In real world physics, that is impossible
22:27 impossible
22:32 unless the gun or rifle produced a
22:37 missile speed just over 200 m/s
22:40 while the speed of sound is like 340 m a second.
22:42 second.
22:45 >> So yes, so look what So Metanite 62
22:47 says, could it mean the shot was fired
22:49 close to the camera? That's that's
22:52 basically what it would have to mean in
22:53 this case. So I know um there was
22:56 another guy audio freak who he went out
22:58 and did some pretty advanced audio
23:00 analysis from multiple different cameras
23:03 and things um and he kind of came to the
23:05 conclusion a very similar conclusion
23:07 that he thought it was much closer up
23:10 and that's actually this here.
23:12 >> I am seeing a problem but it's not so
23:15 cut and dry because obviously as I said
23:17 it's geometrically aligned. It's not
23:21 linear. So, you know,
23:23 there there definitely is a supersonic
23:25 event happening. Um, you know, this is
23:28 it's going through every frequency. You
23:31 can't fake that, you know, and ultimately,
23:32 ultimately,
23:35 um, the crack is happening as well. Um,
23:36 so if I turn on
23:39 >> Well, let me ask a better question. Are
23:41 you able to determine anything from what
23:45 you've found here about how far away
23:48 from this particular recording?
23:50 >> So Jason asked a good question here. He
23:51 has all this analysis, but he's asking
23:53 him, "Have you actually figured anything
23:56 out about the distances from all the,
23:57 you know, extensive videos." He's done
23:59 several videos. Go check him out, too.
24:00 Um, check out Jason on Crowdsource the
24:03 Truth and check out Matthew on, um,
24:06 Audio Freak. But he kind of gives an
24:07 answer here, and it's very similar to
24:10 what we came up with. Um, it this was a
24:11 closer shot.
24:12 >> The shooter would have been
24:14 >> I I'd put him within 50 meters. I would
24:16 have would have thought maybe
24:19 >> so within 50 meters based on his audio
24:21 analysis of multiple different cameras
24:25 and sources. And then Q or Pete as I
24:27 call him um who did this modeling and
24:28 stuff, he he thinks the same. You know,
24:33 it's a closer shot. So um as far as the
24:35 the information that I've shown, that's
24:38 kind of what I have. Um, obviously we
24:40 have this model here. I did reach out to
24:43 other YouTube channels including
24:44 Valhalla and Paramount Tactical and all
24:46 those guys and invited them to the live
24:48 stream, but I think they might have been
24:49 too short of notice. I just asked them
24:52 this morning. So, I'll see if I can uh
24:55 get them on at some point. Um, probably
24:56 not today, but I'll see if I can get
24:58 them on and kind of go over some of
25:00 these different locations and ideas.
25:02 But, I mean, this is pretty thorough.
25:06 So, I asked the community for a 3D model
25:09 and I got a 3D model with a tent with
25:12 Charlie Kirk inside on a race platform
25:13 on a chair leaning back with a
25:15 microphone in his hand with a security
25:17 guard next to him with the people in the
25:19 front, people on the roof and exact
25:22 lines of sights from the guns. I mean,
