This content explores the power of self-belief, manifestation, and embracing one's authentic creative process, as articulated by musician Russ. It emphasizes the importance of internal conviction, embracing "delusion" as a driving force, and the practical application of these mindsets in achieving extraordinary outcomes.
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what does it feel like when you see your
mom's reaction to getting the beach
house can you feel the car turning the
corner it's about immersing yourself
in that feeling as if it was going on
right now and when you do that on a
daily basis
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hey everyone welcome back to on purpose
the number one health podcast
in the world thank you so much for
tuning in every single week
to listen learn and grow now you know
that i like diving into the minds
of unique individuals people with
incredible stories fascinating backgrounds
backgrounds
people with insights that are going to
help us understand how we can level up our
our
own mindset now today's guest is gonna
do just
that today's guest is russ an american rapper
rapper
singer songwriter and producer he's also
the author of the usa today and wall
street journal bestseller
it's all in your head russ has made 14
studio albums in his career
with several of his songs going platinum
and gold his latest album
shake the snow globe came out in january
of last year
and debuted at number four on the
billboard album chart russ
welcome to on purpose thanks for being
crazy it's just like crazy hearing
those things out loud i don't know just
like tripping me out sometimes yeah how
does it make you feel
well like every once in a while i unjade
and i'm like
i go back to being 17 and i'm like
what's going on like
it's crazy i'm super grateful i would
have your 17 year old self
felt if they knew that this was gonna be
the life you lived
they would have thought i was lame that
i didn't do it earlier they would have
been like
they would have been like took you to 28
what a loser
but um nah like i'm one of those people where
where
you know when when people ask like
artists or anyone like oh did you see
this coming
it's like well yeah how else do you make
it happen i don't even know how you
would make
something extraordinary happen if you
don't have like an extraordinary level
of belief
yeah i feel like there's a difference
though between like seeing
believing and knowing like some people
just know yeah
but i think sometimes we believe but
knowing is like even a deeper like it is
i know right do you know what i mean i
agree with that that's interesting
because i definitely
when i was coming up it was it was that
knowing feeling it was
there was no doubt like doubt did not
exist in my brain i knew that it was
gonna work and you couldn't tell me any different
different
i feel like if we look at the world
today especially what's happened in the
last 12 months but even before
that you see that there are a lot of
people who doubt themselves
why do you think we do that to ourselves
and how did you not fall into that
i don't know if it's necessarily age or
if it's
exposure to outside chatter so when i
was 17 it was really easy to believe in
myself because there was no one saying
anything like there was no haters or i
had nobody telling me you can't do it
maybe some friends like
joking like oh yeah you're going to be a
rapper producer but it's like you know i
think a lot of it
is you you're born a certain way i think
the other thing is
good parenting my parents especially my
dad always told me i could do
anything and would like constantly tell
me i was special
and all those things and you know i know
there's people who think that you
shouldn't tell your kids
certain things like that but for me i
you know i really commend my dad for
putting the battery in my back and
making me think i can do anything i want because
because
that's why i wrote a book i don't read
that much but i was like i could write a
book why not
you know so it's like i don't know man
shout out to my dad my dad is like the
confidence guru
so shout out to your dad yeah i love
hearing about a positive like
father role model mine was more
interesting my dad was more aloof and detached
detached
interesting which actually helped me
because it helped me craft who i wanted
to be because
right i didn't have any pressure from
him yeah and and so it's interesting how
we all
that's funny you say that because then
it just made me think that
the other thing is is i was always super super
super
competitive and i looked up to my dad a
lot like he was really good at basketball
basketball
he was super smart he could just like do
any he's one of those people like he
could just do anything and like
you ask him any question he knows the
answer to it and since i'm super competitive
competitive
i was like i have to be better than you
i have to like beat you at basketball
like he would always beat me at ping pong
pong
pool like you know what i'm saying like
i just was always so competitive so
i think that really pushed me he used to
challenge me even with like school
extra assignment projects where he
always loves telling this story i think it's
it's
slightly overrated but i'll tell it and
he'll be happy that i did
i think seventh grade there was this
class wide or grade wide uh sort of
like extracurricular thing like oh answer
answer
200 of these math questions online and
you'll get something
i don't know and my dad just used to
give me a hard time about not applying
myself so just to shut him up
i answered like all a thousand and like
won the whole thing but like he always
uses that story as just sort of this way
this thing that i do where a lot of times
times
i'll just do something to prove y'all
wrong and prove me right
you know yeah even if i don't really
want to do it but sometimes that's
enough motivation so i related to the
michael jordan the last dance thing
where like
he would use any little thing to be like
that was enough for me yeah
you know what i'm saying like y'all
picked carl malone as the mvp that was enough
enough
that's how i be feeling i only need a
little bit and sometimes i make them up
in my head i'm like
it's like a make-believe level of motivation
motivation
source of fuel so yeah i've heard you
talk about that before like this idea of
having some level of delusion yes and
one of my favorite people who had that
and i've studied his life through many
books and teachings is steve jobs
and so when you read the life of steve
jobs steve jobs had something they call
reality distortion field where he would
distort the reality he experienced to be
what he wanted it to be now that can be
very dangerous
yeah but is that like a real thing
that's like a psychological real thing
i believe so that's for sure what my
entire life was from like
17. now you got a word for it yeah now
now it sounds good so yeah reality
distortion field so tell me about
why do you think delusion is useful and
wherever you also seem to be dangerous
because i think both is well i think it
kind of depends on
what reality you're trying to create
but i do believe in you know i used to
walk around saying all my beats are a
million dollars a beat
and i'm a billionaire and i just went
platinum eight times these are all
things i would say
like that would have not happened and
they were insane me and bugis my best
friend who started diamond he put out a um
um
a project back in 2011 and we called it
2020 and i produced the whole thing and we
we
did the entire album from the
perspective of 2020. so it was like
we're on rolls royces and we just made
millions like it was
all just distorted reality but it ended
up becoming reality so i do believe that
if you want to change your reality you
have to already believe that it
is your reality but obviously if you
like are trying to do something evil or
ill-intent it's not gonna be great for
everyone else
yeah just before we started recording we
were talking about
you know being creative and being busy
and you said something really
interesting you were just like you know
i'm always creative i've always got
stuff going on here and then you're like
there's some days where i don't
you know feeling lazy like walk us
through that because
as someone who's super creative who's
loved for your creativity
and how original your work is and that's
why i've always liked you i've always
thought your
sound is very original and unique and
it's hard to like be like
it's like oh it sounds like that person
or sounds like it's like oh no no this is
is
original like that's where i've always
resonated with your work tell us about
how that is something you achieve
even though there are days where you
kind of feel like i just want to sleep
all day or whatever
yeah it's tough because uh me and
bowie's talk about it all the time the
highs and lows of an artist is really
dramatic at least for me like i'll have
days if i go into the studio and make
something i love
i'm like on cloud nine like everything
is great in my life
but then i go to sleep and i wake up and
that next day none of that matters
like i move on very quickly and and i'm
just like okay now i need to make
another one but if i can't make another
one if that day i'm just not feeling it
or i go to the studio and i try nothing
works i'm like this is
i should just give up this is this is it
i'll never get a creative
source you know what i mean and it gets
very like
you sink really low sometimes especially
if you go for me i make so much music
that if i don't
make a song for four days i'm like this
is crazy like what's happening i'm depressed
depressed
so it's hard but you got to just
remember that um
you just have to have faith in sort of
the creator in the infinite and
you know i don't feel like i really make
music i feel like i deliver it
you know because i feel like it when i
have those moments
it's just something that's coming to me
and i'm the vessel and now i'm just
delivering it
and i'm executing it and i'm almost
discovering it in the studio i don't
know if i'm creating i'm discovering it
if that makes sense so you're not always
going to be
in that place where you're getting the
message and you're getting the energy so
this is what it is just hard it's the
waiting time in between will make you
feel like this is it i'll never make
another song
what makes you feel that i love what you
just said about
delivering versus creating i i think
that's phenomenal and it's
explained really well what makes you
feel like you're in alignment
where you can deliver versus forcing you
to create like what are the things that
lack of thought right yeah lack of thought
thought
those times where you get into that
place where you're not thinking
and you're just feeling and like i said
just delivering
like i'm not even thinking about what oh
should i say this like you get the inspiration
inspiration
and you just execute it that's when you
just enter that flow state and it's just special
special
you know but it's tricky it's hard
especially like i said as i got
uh not even necessarily older just more visibility
visibility
there's outside chatter now in my head
you know what people are gonna think i
know that i'm not just releasing it to
my friends anymore like
you know so it's it's become trickier to
tune out everything but
um yeah man just try to focus on the
present moment that's like what the one
thing that i learned this past
year was really like how do i slow down
time and i was like okay well the way i
slow down time is to slow down my thoughts
thoughts
and the way i slow down my thoughts is
to be present
you know you notice if you're just
mindless and you're
you know you're making a sandwich but
you're thinking about oh my god what i
need to do tomorrow and
what all of a sudden two hours passes
right but if you really
think about like you know you cutting
the sandwich and what that's like and you
you
stepping on the grass and what your feet
feel like time moves really slow
you realize how slow time moves so i
just try to do that i try to stay in the
present even
in the studio you know i don't try to
uh have my thoughts already beyond when
this comes out and this is gonna be like
this and how's it gonna go then
i'm just like man let me just like
actually hear the music
and feel the music and just operate from
this place
i love hearing you talk about this man
because you know these are some of the
principles that
i'm constantly sharing in my work yeah
but hearing how it applies
to a music artist in your career it
brings me so much joy
yeah because it's practical it's real
like you've got
time pressures you've got you've got
pressures from
labels collaborations whatever it may be
like there are real
life pressures but when i hear you say
that and that's how you feel aligned
how did you get introduced to this work
or this set of thoughts and beliefs and
mindsets was it something that you had
since you were a kid or where did you
start exploring
with the idea of being present
experiencing fear
delivery the present moment is recent
because you know what i didn't need i felt
felt
almost like i didn't need to be present
i guess when i was coming up because
there wasn't anything pulling me away
from the present moment
i kind of only had the present moment if
that makes sense it was just
me and bugis in the basement making
songs and that was it there wasn't
tours coming up and videos you know
there was none of that so
uh but as this past year and past couple
years have been happening i got into the
power of now book and just
sort of just the whole ideology around
just being present
started reading more into that whole
theory and i just
i bought you know i bought into it a lot
of this stuff people don't
realize that a lot of the stuff like the
teachings the self-help stuff
you have to be open to receiving it you
know and if you're not open to receiving
and you're not willing to buy into it
then i
you know i hear you but god bless you
know i can only tell people it works for me
me
um but it worked for me you know being president
president
yeah i love that you mentioned the power
of now and then when you talk about flow state
state
yeah for anyone who's listening if
you've not read that book it's a
brilliant book as well
flow state yeah it's called flow and for
anyone who doesn't know
flow the way it's defined in that book
is where
your skills meet your challenge exactly
so i told you i saw like a youtube video
yes that was like enough for me i should
read the book though yeah no no no but
you brought it up and it's
it's a brilliant concept and you're
really experiencing that because most
people it says
experience when their challenge is above
their skills and so they feel
frustrated disappointed when they give
up yeah all their skills are above their
challenge and then they feel bored
because they actually have more skills
than what they're trying to achieve and
i think that's
i fell into that a little bit which is
why i started working with outside
producers because
it was so easy for me to just like go downstairs
downstairs
and make like a rust song you know like
have a million beats i can make it be
boom do this it's like alright cool whatever
whatever
you know but it kind of i got into like
a rut creatively because i was making songs
songs
but i was like i don't even it just
wasn't even that fun you know
and i think it was because it wasn't
that challenging anymore so
um i started working with outside
producers where it was like okay this is
a bit of a challenge and then further i
started trying to get
on beats even if no one hears them i
started to get on production
that i don't like in a sense
almost to just be like can i make a song
out of this wow
yeah just like because i got the studio
in my house and i don't need anyone to
record me so i can just be down there
like experimenting so
there's been beats that producers send
me and i'm like i don't like this at all
but i wonder if i can make a song out of
it and it becomes this cool little like
fun project and a lot of times
it's turned into songs that i'm like
this is crazy
wow like i get so much more fulfillment
out of it
because i couldn't see it coming a lot
of my songs i'm like
before you know when i'm making the beat
i already know what the whole song's
gonna sound like
and most of those usually end up being
very successful so i'm not gonna
downplay them
but it does make the process not as
uh on an easter egg hunt yeah yeah yeah
so yeah yeah i love hearing that because
that's putting yourself in an
uncomfortable situation right
and most of us avoid that yeah yeah most
of us just want to hear a beat and feel
something straight away
right we'll see because people are
around other people i would never
i would probably never do that if there
was people in the studio yeah with me like
like
actually out of all the beats you played
give me the one i don't like and i'm
just gonna
try to make something you know what i
mean yeah i like that's why
i always tell people whatever your craft
is make sure you have it in your house
if you can because those
moments of solitude when you can kind of
just be weird
and you know experiment and dance around
crazy and be nuts
that's where you're really gonna you
know i have a i have a line where i say
the public praises people for what they
practice in private
you know so uh i just feel like
that's when you gotta hone in on
everything is what you're doing in
private so i like when i'm by myself in
the studio i'll be getting weird [Laughter]
[Laughter]
can you tell us what's the weirdest
thing that's ever happened
i mean it's not that weird but it's like
when i'm by myself i'll put on a beat
that i'm like i don't even know what i'm
about to do on this and i'll just put
the auto-tune all the way up
and go stand in the booth for 60 takes
just wailing
and just making noises and i'll be like
this is
wild or this is trash but this was
really cool you know like i sent my
manager some song i did
uh where i made a beat and i just put
the auto tune on full blast and just
freestyled the whole song and i was like
i just had to get it out yeah but it was cool
cool
but like i would never put it out but it
was awesome this is so inspiring i i
that's i love that approach yeah it's just
just
it's so refreshing hearing that it's a
refreshing process
yeah you know because you get so rigid
with like your process and this is what
i do and we sit here and i make this
kind of song
it's like every once in a while you have
to shake the snow globe that's where
that whole
concept came from you have to just you
know it's like the tin man
and was it like turn the auto tune up
and put on some crazy heat and let me
just be a maniac for an hour it breaks
the formula
you work in this formulaic yeah
product line manufacturing and you don't
you can't manufacture greatness
that's from school yeah that's from
school school is such a factory
setup you know how were you at school
what kind of i was incredible at school
to be honest
i'm not even a lie i was i was like i'm
really not
i was not one of those like yeah i
struggled in school and it was difficult
i was really really good at school
because i wouldn't apply myself but
i was definitely the kid who like didn't
study never did homework
but i would get a's and b's on all the
tests and so everyone was just like
but i would be like you know i was
second i always say this and it's not
even something i'm necessarily proud of
but it just gives context but
like a senior superlative i was like
second for most likely to make a teacher retire
retire
because i was just the kid in class like
constantly talking distracting people
challenging the teacher but i had an a
in the class so i was just super annoying
annoying
which i know is a surprise to so many people
people
and so tell me go back to the point you
were making before before i interjected around
around
why you think that factory yes well yeah
because you know you're
you have an expiration date as a kid in school
school
you got to be out by a certain time in
high school whatever age it is
uh go to this department of the building
when the bell rings you know what i mean
it's just very like
like there's no creativity in there you
know that's why i'm really big on having arts
arts
in schools and you know just because
otherwise you just i don't know just
like creates these robots
i love that you break the mold how do
you get to a point though where you've
what i find fascinating already your
process is fascinating to me what i find
more interesting though is that your
your ability to trust yourself yeah when
you come up with something insane
because very few people ever allow themselves
themselves
to do a wild card thing right now when
you do a wild card thing in the studio
on your own
and you discover something like a sound
or a auto tune or whatever it is
and you discover a a b or a sound that
yeah oh i like this
how do you then trust yourself
to go with that when now when you play
it to someone they might be like all
right you're crazy russ like this is
never gonna work
how do you then approach that it's that
level of it's that stain of confidence that's
that's
just you can't remove i just still oh
like nas has this quote
in an interview i believe where he said
if it doesn't scare you you shouldn't
put it out
so i've always kind of like kept that in
the back of my head
you know i usually move with that and i'm
i'm
and i'm cool with that and i like that
with my fans what i've created
is this trust and this unpredictab
un predictably unpredictable sort of
relationship where they know they can
expect me to be
doing the unexpected meeting they know
it might be raps they know it might be
singing but they don't know what it's
going to sound like but they know it's
going to be me
and so i think i've done a very good job
at painting
my canvas and kind of giving people who
i am so it's allowed me a lot of creative
creative
freedom i always tell up and coming
artists like when you're coming up you
don't want it then
this is my opinion when you're coming up
and you're building your fan base
you're conditioning them to expect a
certain thing
from you a certain sound or whatever and you're
you're
you're creating this creative window a
lot of people if you just come up
only rapping right you get your whole
fan base off of only rapping
let's say you know you just you haven't
really fully tapped into you yet and now
you want to start singing
a lot of fans are going to be like you
switched up what are you doing did it
and you know you could lose a lot of
people and they might think that you're
changing when really the whole time
that's been you you just didn't have
enough time to discover it
so i was really proud of myself that i
was able to kind of
give people the whole scope of my
creativity so that
when i do go left field no one's going
to be like what are you doing
because it's kind of like oh yeah that's
just being russ like we know that
sometimes he's giving us red sometimes
it's yellow sometimes it's
orange whatever you know that's kind of
why i did the artworks all like that too
yeah just to let you know that all my
music is all different colors it's not just
just
one just spending this time with you
already and even when you came in and
stuff like you're someone who's
who's very comfortable in their own skin
but at the same time you're not
arrogant and egotistic did everyone hear that
that
yeah i'm just that's a first you know no
i agree too i think i fought into the
own narrative
he doesn't have an ego i don't know no i
definitely haven't no i mean in the
sense of let's yeah let's talk about ego
for a bit because
and and i mean in a good way i was
saying as a compliment that
i feel that you have a very uh
you know what from what i'm hearing or
at least and i'm only basing on this
conversation i've had with you but
it's like there's a stability between
like knowing you want to learn more and
be better
yeah but you are confident about who you
are and where you are which is which is
a beautiful
place to be by the way thank you who
doesn't want to be between those two things
things
yeah uh how have you tempered
that ego that we all have
with the desire to learn and grow and
realize there's more to go
but i'm really happy with what i've done
because that's what i'm hearing
yeah but i want to kind of break that
down for people because i think a lot of people
people
live in either extreme either they're
celebrating their last win
right for like seven years right or
they're just like i'm the worst i'm
never gonna win i'm never gonna win and
they don't appreciate where they are
yeah i think for me to be honest despite
perception or whatever
um i had to hype myself up i had to be
the biggest believer
of myself that's the only reason why any
of this worked and i think that
and because i'm very vocal about it
because i'm putting it out into the
universe so that it comes back
it could come off like i think
i have nothing left to learn and no
nobody can offer me anything and i know
it's like no y'all just don't know what
self-belief sounds like clearly
um you might know what it looks like and
some people are just more
um quiet about their self-belief just to
get people to like them otherwise you
get kind of my perception but
um but no i've always still been a
massive fan of people
and a massive just supporter of anything
dope anyone
anyone that knows me from when i was
nothing to
now from two years old to now like if
you're dope at anything
i'm always the first person to like root
for you
dm you send you advice like bro hit me anytime
anytime
and even just looking up to people i'm
i'm a fan out i'm like yo you're
incredible i would love to work with you
i'm that person too so i don't know i just
just
there's it's the duality you are able to
have the utmost confidence in yourself
while still
also knowing that okay but this person
is really dope too
and if we come together it could be
really fire i'm just really confident in myself
myself
and so i'm not desperate to reach after
collabs and things like that but it
doesn't mean i don't think that
i know everything and you know i'm
always asking all my like my engineer
friends like yo what plug-in is that like
like
this is crazy oh you're fired you know
when people guess
you could ask even like kid super when i
first met him the dude who made this sweater
sweater
uh he did my gypsy video years ago like 2014
2014
and when i first met him he thought i
was hella weird because
or like socially awkward because i kept
giving him
mad compliments because i was so it was
like my first
real kind of video ish even though it
wasn't like some big production but
i was just so enamored by the process
and i thought it was so dope
that i'm just like that's who i am i'm a
very complimentary
person and like i'm always gonna give
people their flowers and he was just
like i'm like nah i genuinely feel like
that so i don't know i've always been
able to
have that level of duality yeah i love
the idea of that that paradox like it
feels like uh
it feels like it's not allowed like it
sounds like it should
not be possible to think both those things
things
yeah but actually that's where all the
magic happens i agree right like that you
you
we always think no you have to choose
you have to decide or you're either raw
but actually hearing you say that
yeah actually i i think both those
things yeah uh i i love that and i love
how that doesn't stop you from
appreciating others
yeah uh who was it that appreciated your sound
sound
earlier on that you think made a
difference to you and
and may you know guided you or was it
just you for yourself it was me and
probably bugis
like uh you know for the longest time it
was just bugis wrapping and me producing
and that was uh my closest example
of like someone who i thought had really
good taste
and i trusted their opinion artistically so
so
when bugis gave me the green light to be
like yo yeah you should rap
it was just kind of like okay well game
over for everyone else like if bugas
thinks it's tight
you know so and that's how it still is like
like
um you know you it's it's important to have
have
you only need one but it's important to
have at least one person who
believes in you sometimes almost more
than you and
and there is no jealousy or weird
uh you can't win because then i won't
win like it's a very weird thing so
i always you know commend boogies for
being like the best friend you could have
have
in something that i'm doing you know
what i mean yeah let's talk about that
i like what you brought there about men
specifically like and you took me
straight back to like my teenagers where
yeah i'd be best friend with a dude and
he'd be like my brother
but then we'd go out and he'd be like
all right let's see you can get more
girls today right like that would be his
mentality or like well like oh let's see who
who
who'll be better at the sport today and
it was every time i've realized that
everyone in my life or
male relationships if every time a guy
a friend of mine has tried to turn a
friendship into a competition
yeah they haven't lost it in my life
yeah like they're no longer in my life
because i just wanted to be friends
well now don't get me wrong me and
boogie is dumb competitive okay
explain we played basketball together
like anything me and boogies will turn
into a competition for sure
but when it comes to a dream you're
following after like
it's never like yo how many streams did
your song do bro you know what i'm saying
saying
it's never been that how do you build
that balance what is it about him and
what is it about you that allows you to build
build
that kind of a friendship because i
think that's rare yeah i do especially
in today's social media world
stream world i mean followers views
comments engagement all this stuff that
we all talk about
i think we're both trying to do the same
thing you know and we're both
uh we were both real friends before all this
this
and we both understood you know we read
napoleon hill
so we understand the power of a
mastermind and we just
as big of egos as me and him have we
never let it get in the way
of like supporting one another and any
of that you know
so i don't know i just think it comes
down to the person like
how real are you you know some people
are just fake this is what it is
yeah yeah no and that and that idea of
being able to have at least even one
person just one that's all you want you
don't need
yeah because sometimes we try and we
want ten or twenty like that
and you're right for most of us we're
lucky to have one yeah and that's
that's a good enough start you mentioned
napoleon hill and mastermind
when what age were you when you read
that book 17. bugis gave me the book
so bugis was putting me on to a lot of
that stuff he put me onto napoleon hill
he put me on to the alchemist um
you know so that's the thing we weren't
just like the
i would say the like typical 17 18 year
olds you know
hanging out we graduated high school 17
and we just were locked in the studio
from then until now
you know so it was a lot of
self-discovery but
out the gate and once we left high
school we were reading those books so it
was just kind of like
we were ready to go mentally like we
read those books and we
were both the kind of the kind of people that
that
we buy into something quick and then we
latch on to it and then that's that
you know if that's what we believe you
can't tell us anything different
you know like if i'm go i went vegan for
a year because i
watched one documentary and like that
was that like once something clicks in
my brain
i'm done you know i mean like right now
i haven't had bread or grains
in two weeks because i just like woke up
and it clicked like my brother
nutritionist told me and i latched on to
him boom that's it
i've like me and him have always been
very good at just
once we decide something that's what it
is he lost a bunch of weight
you know 30 40 pounds because he just
decided i'm done you know so
once me and him decided this is what we
were doing with our lives there was no
yeah but maybe we're not doing it with
our lives or if
this was it and we were both fully
committed and every day and every like
every second of our lives was committed
to this you know
that requires such a level of discipline
to like make a choice and to stick with it
it
and i find like that's something a lot
of us struggle with today
i'm terrible at discipline and i've
always been terrible at work ethic
but then i realized that it was the work
and not
my work ethic it was the work you know i
didn't have good work ethic in school
because i didn't like the work it's not
hard to get up and do something you love
every day
and i think i think people get judged
off their work ethic
incorrectly because they get judged
their work ethic is judged off of
how well and how consistent they're
doing work they don't enjoy
how can you how can you judge somebody
off of that yeah judge me off of
you know what i love that's how i can
really tell if you're about it or not like
like
you say you love this you say you love
basketball and i know you do
but you just you're not putting in the
work that's how i know you're not really
about it now i can judge you accurately
but if you're like if you're a
basketball player and you love
basketball but
um you know somebody's judging you off
of how well you do
uh paintings and every day you're in the
art studio that's not even fair
i love that what do you think is the
most difficult thing you've been through personally
personally
like what's been a moment of time in
your life where you felt
you were really battling with something
to overcome it 2018 was pretty rough for me
me
uh just because when i was 17
and i had this
vision of what my life was gonna be and
what it was going to be like to be
on and successful and a musician and
money and fame and whatever
uh i had this very innocent like
just the world is made out of like
marshmallows and cotton candy
perspective on it you know
and when i got on it started off like
that but then it very
quickly turned and i got this very nasty
side of like fame where there's a lot of negativity
negativity
and hate and narratives and things that
are out of your control and things that
are so frustrating trying to fight
everything because i'm
i'm a fighter you know and i'm
competitive and i don't i don't like
just rolling over
so this isn't a broken version of
success this just
is success this comes with it too i
didn't like
i didn't plan for that i thought like
once you get on everything is perfect
and everything is fine because that's
what you think when you're 17. so
um that was tough just like the dose of
reality of like
oh okay this is not what i thought it
was gonna be
but that has to be okay because this is
what it is
that's such a brilliant thought that you
just said that it wasn't a
broken version of success that just was successful
successful
and it's so interesting because you're
so right that when we're teens
we think we're going to get to a place
where it doesn't matter and even now
i think a lot of people look at people
like yourself and other people that we both
both
may know in our lives and people just be
like oh yeah but that that person's life
everything probably just works out just
the way that well that's well like
that's what's so frustrating right is
that people on the outside looking in
their response to everything any famous
person is going through is
you have millions of dollars why do you
care about anything it's like what do
y'all think money is
according to most people's theory once you
you
have fame and money
you have no emotions that's it
you're no longer a human is what you're
trying to tell me i shouldn't feel sadness
sadness
i shouldn't feel anything because i have money
money
and fame it's like okay let's run with that
that
fine i'll buy into that for the sake of
the conversation
however if you're telling me now that
because of money i'm above
certain human emotions then you're
telling me i'm above you
so now when i act like i'm above you
don't now also come back and say why are
you acting like you're better than me
well you just told me i'm better than
you because i don't even have the same
emotions you have
so which one is it am i better than you
or do i experience the same emotions as you
you
it can't be both that's why i encourage
people on the outside looking in to just
shut up you know it's like
in a i'll take a more compassionate
empathetic line but yes
in the same idea of yes like the idea of
i love the way you explained that i
think it's it's a great way of cutting
through the noise
yeah because it's it's so easy because
also when we think someone is
safe yeah from human emotion because of
money and fame
then we think when we get money and fame
we will also be afraid
of human emotions so and you're in for a
rude awakening right exactly we're
projecting it on to you but then you're
setting the same standard for yourself
yeah of i hope and i and literally i've heard
heard
i think every person who's rich and
famous will say the same thing
it's just like hey this is this is what
it really ended up at it's going straight
straight
no no and it doesn't matter what any
rich and famous person says
everyone on the outside looking in won't
believe it yeah they'll be like nah that
won't be me though
yeah it's like you know what i hear you
i was there too but
you know i think i think the beauty of understanding
