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Stage 4 Cancer, Inoperable & Carnivore...Blessings & HOPE

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This content features an interview with Jeff, a stage four colon cancer patient who has adopted a carnivore diet and other lifestyle changes to manage his condition, sharing his journey from diagnosis to his current proactive approach to health.

I knew that when I came out I was going

to get bad news I'm sorry it's cancer I

knew what they were going to tell me

I was a little shocked they said yeah

you know what your cold your liver is

fully covered I asked the question I go

if I don't do any treatment a chemo or anything

anything

or we don't like how long do I have to

live I was just curious and they're like

a couple months he tells me I have stage

four colon cancer this is the first time

I heard it he said you're inoperable

you're incurable you're palliative

you're terminally ill like he's firing

all these all these words at me so I'm like

I I thought it was dead

um I'm happy where I am now I've had a

lot of success over the last year and a

half by the regimen that I put myself on

you know I should be dead by now you

know what I mean if I if I just if I if

I didn't take control every single thing

I come across

the last year and a half I try not to

take it as negative and I try to take it

as a blessing

welcome everyone Carrie here from

homestead Howe in the carnivore diet

movie I'm honored to have Mr Jeffrey de

prosperous here with us today joining us

how you doing Jeff

I'm great Carrie thanks for having me

and thanks for pronouncing my name

perfect I got it okay good I was worried

absolutely no you're I'm unbelievable if I

some people are like d prosperous D

prosperos like you you're perfect thank

you thank you very much absolutely hey I

I was glad I got it correct on the 24

hour live stream oh God I was blown away

by that

it definitely helps because you've uh

started your own YouTube channel so I

think I heard you say it on there too so

that helped as well but

um yeah I've been looking forward to

talking to you we talked briefly before

you've uh set up a YouTube channel

um I'm gonna have that Linked In the

description below for everyone to see

and um yeah maybe could we just start

out you could just tell us a little bit

about yourself and maybe uh your

carnivore story

okay uh sounds good thanks uh thanks

Carrie well my name is Jeff the

prosperous and uh yes uh and thank you

for putting that up there uh I started a

YouTube channel uh recently

um basically because you to be honest

Carrie you motivated me because you know

you're you're quite you've got some

great experience with YouTube like you

said you told me you only been crying

over six months but you were doing

YouTube Forever and uh me and my sons

have been following you quite quite a

bit so you motivated me and especially

with your 24 hour live uh that you just

did this past Saturday

um you know in my first video that I

made was kind of in a panic I uh

if you anyone goes to my

my YouTube channel and they see my first

video I I had chemo chemotherapy that

day natural path and then I was like oh

I gotta make a video guys because

something something important is coming

up uh by Carrie Mann so that's that was

my first experience with that

but um

again once again uh my story Carrie is

that what you kind of want me to start

with yeah please so I I know you're

going through stage four cancer yes

correct you're also a carnivore and

you're having some good success with

that so maybe if you could take us back

I it's a tough thing but could you maybe

take us back to when you were diagnosed

with the cancer and tell us a little bit

more about about that absolutely

um well

first off I was a I've been a high

school phys ed teacher uh for 21 years now

now

um it's actually my dream job uh I

always whatever wanted to be is a

professional athlete and if I couldn't

be a professional athlete I always say I

want to be a high school gym teacher so

I I had my perfect job and I did it for

that past 21 years and um

I'm gonna go back to

when I first got diagnosed it was

end of March 2022 beginning of April end

of March

and I'm going to go back even further

from that um

into the summer of

2021. and I think June 2021 I'm not sure

how it was where you guys were I'm

pretty sure it's similar but I'm here in Canada

Canada

June of 2021

we were coming out of a lockdown

actually still like the third lockdown

and like many people uh

family time was great and it was great

for cooking but I noticed I was

barbecuing tons of meat which was good I

learned that now but also my wife was

she was doing like most households would

do probably in in North America uh you

know she'd be making the salads the rice

the potatoes the bread everything to go

with the meat I was barbecuing so this

was around like June 2021 and

and

after every meal I was feeling bloated

just bloated to the point where I

couldn't even move and I'm like I need

to lie down

and so

when the sun when summer hit I said to

my wife and my two sons I said

I'm gonna do something different

and I like many people do uh they cut

out meat first so I decided to become a vegetarian

vegetarian

so I became a vegetarian for from July

2021 all the way up to December

Christmas 2021

it drove my parents of Italian Heritage

who know the importance of meat I drove

them nuts [Music]

[Music] um

um but

but

I did it because I think I blamed it on

the meat

little did I know I probably already had

a tumor in my colon from the diagnosis

of it and I'll talk with that in a

little bit but from the diagnosis of it

I probably had a tumor in my colon my

primary tumor uh for like the past four

in retrospect now I think about it

becoming a vegetarian what I've learned about

about

cancer and tumors from Dr Anthony chafee

and even Dr Thomas Seyfried is one of

them I I study quite a bit

I being a vegetarian was probably the

worst thing I ever did I fed those

tumors my insulin was raised I was

feeding it glucose carbohydrates

probably the worst thing ever

so leading up after that you know

December January

I started to become mentally a mess and

and I wasn't sleeping I think November

December January 2022

for about three months I was sleeping

maybe one hour a night and I didn't know

what was going on I was going to work I

was teaching you know teaching phys Ed

and you know at the time in January it

was coming towards an end of the first

semester and I was getting ready for

like the end of the semester so we were

doing these culminating assignments I

remember having my health class in a

computer lab and I would leave to go to

the washroom to go almost like throw up

I was feeling nauseous this was really

weird because I've been that High School

phys ed teacher in good shape for you

know 20 years but I had to sleep for

three three months anyways I'm sharing

all this information with my wife and my

and my father and my mother and my

sister my brother-in-law and it got to

the end of January where it was the end

of the semester where I couldn't take it

anymore and I you know my family said

you got to go tell your principal you

need to take a leave from work

so I went into my principal's office

took a leave from work I was in tears I

told him I didn't know what was going on

a couple days before the January 2022

doctors weren't seeing you face to face

my family doctor because of the pandemic

my family doctor

he he diagnosed me with being severely

depressed and having anxiety and the and

and so he gave me depression pills and

sleep and sleep pills so I went off I it

was crazy like I went off work in

February March hiding in my house taking

these pills

not making me better but then I was also

kept you know diagnosing myself so

around March break of 2022

I say March break because we call that

in Canada it's like a spring break I

think for you guys in U.S um

I started diagnosing I started noticing

my stools being being uh thinner and

smaller and a little bit of blood

uh so I beg I call my family doctor and

my family doctor at the time it's like

oh just drink prune juice

he's like you're you're you know you're

too young you know I was I was 43 when I

got you know I'm 43 44 years old you're

too young you're doing prune juice and

I'm like whatever I went out and bought

prune juice and it didn't work

um then

I kind of begged my family doctor can

you get me like scans tests like so he

sent me for an ultrasound they saw

something not much so then I was dagging

him for a colonoscopy

and he's like okay he sent me for a call

finally he sent me for a colonoscopy and

I knew I knew by then this was like uh

end of March 2022

I knew that when I came out I was going

to get bad news so I was prepared but

that it was crazy the the

the doctor that did the colonoscopy told

me he removed three polyps and he said

you have a you have a you have a large

growth in your colon and your sigmoid colon

colon

I said large growth what's that he's

like I'm sorry it's cancer and it's

covering like if your Colon's here it's

covering like pretty much half of my colon

colon

it's pretty large he said but he said

you know he was pretty optimistic we're

going to do surgery we'll cut it out

you'll be good to go I'll see you in a year

year

but in the meantime you know you're

getting set up for CT scan so I had from

that colonoscopy I had a CT scan early

April 2022 a couple weeks later and

and

I knew if I knew if I you know Mr Google

and diagnosing myself of where colon

cancer goes next

that my liver was covered even before I

went into the CT scan because I could

feel pressure in my liver I couldn't lie

on my stomach as a sleeper at night it

was bothering me so when I went in for

my CT scan when I came out and I met the

colon specialist and the liver

specialist at the Cancer Hospital here

in Canada I knew what they were going to

tell me

I was a little shocked they said yeah

you know what your col your liver is

fully covered like they couldn't even

tell me numbers and how many tumors are

on there

so then the liver specialist the colon

specialist passed me to deliver

specialist the liver specialist said

well you know what we're going to hit it

with chemo for a bit and then hopefully

he was kind of optimistic maybe we can

do surgery so you know I was a I had a

little bit of optimism in my mind and by

the way

those colon Specialists and liver

Specialists they told me

that I asked the question I go if I

don't do any treatment a chemo or anything

anything

or we don't like how long do I have to

live I was just curious and they're like

couple months maybe maybe a couple

months ago they actually there no no

doctor can tell you how long you can

live they were just kind of guessing

so anyways that was April ish

beginning of May 2022 I get a phone call

from the oncologist who's going to be

administering my chemo

and uh

so nothing staged yet so I remember this

phone call beginning of May 2022 I

remember this phone call my wife was on

it she was she was she works from home

or from her car most of the time she's

she's a banker and uh she's on the call

I think my brother-in-law is on the call

and I'm taking this call from the

oncologist and he stages it he tells me

I have stage four colon cancer this is

the first time I heard it you know my

wife was pretty pretty upset about

hearing that and

he said you're inoperable

you're incurable you're palliative

you're terminally ill like he's firing

all these all these words at me so I'm like

I I thought it was dead like at the time so

that was huge and then we got on chemo I

started chemo end of May end of May 2022

and I went all the way to May 2023 and I

did well and I can tell you later why I

did well and a lot and a lot of it is

has to do with the carnivore diet and

fasting along with the chemo

but then I asked for chemo break and I

had a chemo break it was nice to hang

out with the family without going for

every other week chemo treatment I had

June July August off and I just started

when I made that video and I

make sense now when I made that video

for you

last Wednesday before your carnivore

live that was my

coming back to chemo 20 so I did 27

rounds from May to May that was my 28th

round I'm starting all over again

calling it round one of the second

session I guess uh so that was Wednesday

I started chemo again and that's my

story up to now okay wow

wow

so much on the staging Jeff just for

people that don't know what how do they

determine the staging it's is it that's

it no that's a good question

I'm constantly asked that question and

uh yeah I'm wondering what formula they

use too but from my experience um

because every other week I'm in a Cancer

Clinic and I actually have like cancer

buddy friends that like there's this one

young fellow he's close to my age and he

we have the same thing he's he sat

beside me every single one uh and he had

stage four colon cancer but his colon

cancer he had it removed

and then it came back so anything that

comes back automatically from what my

understanding again I'm not a doctor is

stage four already

but for me stage four is because it has

my primary tumor in my colon has spread

to another location it's now in my liver

automatically becomes stage four I think

stage three is at the point where it's

large enough and the doctors can tell

it's ready to spread

um and then stage one and two is most of

the time pretty localized to one one spot

spot

and so you said you you didn't have any

surgery it's just the the chemo

treatments that's correct

um you know when I when I first got diagnosed

diagnosed

you know I wanted all this removed big

time all this poison inside of me that's

what I call it right and

I didn't have a surgery so everything

I'm learning though uh through a lot of

the doctors and from people's experience

with having cancer especially my my

buddy that sat beside me like he it

people when people have surgery

sometimes things come back and they

spread more so from my knowledge of that

I'm gaining over the past year and a half

half

um I'm happy where I am now I was

disappointed at first not having surgery

uh but I've had a lot of success over

the last year and a half by the regimen

that I put myself on

um I'm not going to say the doc like the

traditional doctors put me on I put

myself on it I've had a lot of success

and I'm gonna keep my goal is to keep

chopping away at this as much as I can

it sounds like a big part of this is you

taking your your health into your own

hands you doing your own research you

figuring things out I mean it sounds

like almost like you you kind of had to

beg just to get the tests on like what

did it it just would have gotten so bad

that it would have had to happen without

you kind of uh jumping in there and

saying no I need to have these tests

done is that kind of the case 100 and

I'm not here to you know uh I'm never

gonna mention anybody's name a doctor

I'm not here to throw my family doctor

under the bus or anything but like

I had to take control

I wish I would have took control maybe a

little bit earlier obviously when it was

still localized in the colon that would

have been amazing but

I'm glad I took control because if I

didn't if I just relied on

you know uh

you know today's medicine and the modern

day medicine and the doctors today that

you know that treat you the family

doctors and doctors and hospitals I you

know I know they're there for a good

reason good intention but if I just

relied on them

I I don't I don't my my best friend who

I'm going to tell you about later uh he

says because he's happy that I'm telling

my journey on uh

the YouTube that you you've kind of

motivated me to do Carrie is

you know I should be dead by now you

know what I mean if I if I just if I if

I didn't take control so

that's something I I was very fortunate

actually yesterday I get to speak to Dr

Sean Baker and he's like I love him yeah

he's a he's a b he's a beast like I I me

and my boys love watching him sorry yeah

no he's the greatest I'm so fortunate to

talk to some of these people but he said

something very similar he's like you

know these doctors mean well and they

have the best intentions but some of

these guys see a hundred patients a day

and you have to take control you have to

put it into your own hands for a lot of

these things here you're gonna it's not

gonna work out for you on on many fronts

but um

wow so 100 yes yeah I just want to say

too not to Sidetrack but I really

appreciate that you're uh you're sharing

your story with people because

it's these little individual examples

and stories I think really Inspire other

people and it's just amazing to me

because you're going through all of this

you're going through the chemo 28 rounds

of chemo you had the break but you're

back on it now I had you not told me all

this I'd be like this dude's just a

thriving carnivore like you're bright

and cheer you got the carnivore glow

you're excited you're passionate you're

fired up about it so yeah

I just fire it up like

I'm fired up because of people like you

though too Carrie like I was gonna I was

going to bring on like my carnivore

coffee that I because I watched your

video uh one of you making mistakes and

you doubting it and flexing and telling

your wife how you're pumped with

testosterone I you know what like

I've taken

everything that's going on in my life

and I guess that's why I chose my title

as a blessing what I'm going through so

um yeah

yeah I I love it yeah I got a little

obnoxious in that video I gotta go

you're awesome I gotta tone it down a

little bit but yeah I get fired up too

but I love the way you and your wife are

interacting that was a good one nice Jen

Jen right right yep yes yes yes

so yeah hey on that front that's a good

transition so I know you've got

um your wife and two sons as well that

you talk about how are they how are they

doing with everything I mean obviously

it's tough but it is tough and that that

is majority when I when I meet people um

that is the first thing they ask they

ask about my and I appreciate that

because they're in my life my two sons

I'm sure you can understand I think you

I I you have three daughters correct or

or four because you have triplets right yeah

yeah um

my two sons and my wife or my life uh

you know my parents and and you know I

obviously I have one sister but my

immediate household is everything and

I'll tell you something you know I know

I know it's tough on my wife because

she's still working full-time and she's

living with someone that has stage four

cancer not easy for her my my boys

because she has a stress stresses of

work and life and everything right

whereas my my sons and and my sister

who's also a teacher she taught me this

she says kids are pretty resilient uh

they'll be able to handle it you won't

be surprised because I know people that

hide things from their kids when it

comes to health and this and that but my

boys have been the biggest part of my

journey my two sons um

you know they come to doctor's

appointments with me with me when they

can uh you know they're heavily involved

in sports uh I'm on the road every night

bringing them to to soccer they play a

lot of sports but they mainly focus on

soccer and when we're driving to these

sports like sometimes most the time

we're driving 45 minutes one way and 45

minutes back

um we've created a habit where it's like

we're listening to guys like you Carrie

Anthony chafee Sean Baker Okay Candy

Barry we're listening to their their you

know their YouTube channels and

everything and my boys are excited

because you know and they they you know

the regimen I'm doing they're on board

with it so

um but anyways yeah and just I was just

wanted to go back because I remember you

said something just earlier Carrie is

you thanked me for for telling my story now

now

um you know again

you know as much as I seem like I'm an

outgoing you know energetic person and

and I and I am especially at work as a

high school phys ed teacher

um I think that's kind of It kind of

innately goes with the job but I in my

personal life I'm I'm an introvert

um I like to keep to myself I don't have

too many I have small group of friends

um I like to be at home when I diagnose

myself and when I was off work I was

hiding I didn't want anybody to know

what was happening to me

um this is kind of I've been built and

when I say in a panic I made that video

for you because enough was enough like I

I'm good I'm good where I am in my life

now I want to help I want to help other

people because I think you know you know

I'm a living test tube I'm not a doctor okay

okay

um I do have a kinesiology degree and

phys Ed degree and education degree but

and I joke around about it there's this

comedian here in Canada that

he he always wanted to be a high school

phys ed teacher and he and he always his

name is Jerry d i I got no problem

spitting that out he's pretty famous

around around and he always says doctors

are here phys Ed teachers are here so

you know I I do I do have a bit of a

background when it comes to health and

nutrition and we could talk about that

later because I'm kind of embarrassed

what I've taught the last 20 years

everything I've learned being a

carnivore for the past year and a half

but I do have a passion for it and I've

in the last year and a half Carrie

um the knowledge that I gained I'm not

calling myself an expert I'm not saying

I'm a carnivore expert I'm not saying

I'm a I'm a you know even a dietitian or

you know but I my knowledge base you

know I've learned so much in the last

year and a half by watching the videos

and studying the research and everything

that's going on and the studies that are

happening I've learned so much more than

I ever did in the in the two University

degrees that that I took 20 years ago

yeah that's wonderful I I I mean this

sincerely too I always believe in

choosing my words carefully and not just

flattery for the sake of flattery but

you nailed it with your YouTube video I

I said to you in the email afterwards

I'm like what does this guy do and then

I saw that you said you're an educator

I'm like oh that makes sense because you

just sat down and you like spewed out

the whole story like one take no edits

and I was stuck on every word so I

really I really like what you do I could

tell you've definitely done a lot of

research the thing too is there's

there's people out there for that you

know Dr Baker and Dr chafee and those

guys are great but it's the personal

story that you're you're you're going

through this you're going through this

thing and that's what touches people and

and motivates people and inspires people so

um yeah absolutely so yeah could you

tell us a little more now so you got the

cancer diagnosis and then when did what

were sort of the next steps and when did

you get into sort of the carnivore how

did that happen yes

um well like I said I started chemo uh

the end of May May of 2023 so so

2022 May of 2022 and I did about three

my chemo regimen and it this is the way

it is I I go in for chemo on a Wednesday

and I get a drip from the hospital a

certain type of chemo and then when I leave

leave

they push me with another type of chemo

and they attach a bottle of another type

of chemo that I carry on with me for two

days so it's a slow drip chemo I have to

wear this stupid fanny pack and I have

to sleep with it on and it's a real pain

in my butt for two days so from

Wednesday to Friday Fridays when I get

the bottle off um

that's the regimen of my I'm on SO

the first three rounds and sorry I do

that every other week every other Wednesday

Wednesday

for the first three rounds of chemo I

was pretty much on the standard American

diet you could say so if if anything you

could say the Mediterranean diet me

being Italian and uh you know having my

my mother cook for me my whole life and

she even trained my wife my wife's not

Italian but she makes really good sauce um

you know I was eating Mediterranean diet

for the first three rounds uh

but then I had someone pop into my life

uh that was part of my life he he was a

coaching colleague of mine coaching

friend because I as a high school phys

ed teacher I coach I've coached pretty

much every sport

and this gentleman

um that I coach with his name is uh

Dwight garlo and he's got no problem me

spitting this out there uh

he lives close to where my hometown here

in Brantford Ontario in Canada he lives

close to it he actually lives on on the

Native Reserve

um he's an indigenous uh fellow and

he started coaching with me six years uh

probably six or seven years ago to today

uh his daughter was in high school and

she was on my high school soccer team

that I was coaching and he started

coaching with me and he coaches a lot of

sports he's got a pat Dwight Dwight's

got a passion for a lot of things in

life and I'll explain that later but

um he started coaching with me and

anyways when he heard I was off

he sent me a text message like everybody

was sending me text messages and he said

hey Jeff heard you're off

hope everything's okay can I send you

some videos that's that's how he started

and I'm like videos I'm like what are

you like trying to make me feel good

send me some like movie video I don't

know what he was sending me right so the

next thing you know he's he sended me

videos and the first video he sent me

was Dr Berg I don't know if you if you

watch Dr Burr yeah

um and Dr Berger's interviewing the

French guy that had colon cancer

um and did the rib eye steaks the 21 Day

fat that was the first video I watched

anyways Dwight after watching a few

things I started entry and then Dwight

says can I come visit you so I remember

Dwight coming to visit me in my backyard

and this was like now this was like end

of June July I've already did about

three rounds of chemo

and he got you know he through text

through conference leading up to the

meeting with him when he came to visit me

he started telling me about you know diet

diet

and what I should be eating what I

shouldn't be eating

and supplements

and fasting and he's telling me all this

and I'm like and everything's kind of

starting to make sense and clue in so then

um in the meantime there's a whole bunch

of things going on I'm I'm doing

research on a natural path and I and I

end up

visiting a natural path and that's a

totally different topic if and you know

I'll cover that later in a different

episode maybe on my YouTube channel or

whatever but I I connected with through

the natural path I connected with this

other woman in my hometown who had colon

cancer and she did three day fast around

her chemo treatment which was similar to

me so

I was learning about fasting and I was

learning about carnivore for my friend Dwight

Dwight

and I decided to you know start

making up a regimen and embedding things

along with Chemo when I say embedding

things I you know diet

which was ketogenic diet at first it

turned into carnivore later um

supplements fasting exercise natural

path osteopath so my regimen keeps

growing I don't just rely on

chemotherapy and I think that's why I've

had success

but that is my story Dwight sorry if I

went on I'm sorry I mean Carrie if I

went on about

how I met my friend Dwight and how he

introduced me to carnivore um

that's that

Dwight sounds like your best friend now

like what a what a life changer that guy

is big time Big Time he's my best friend

and uh

I went like when I went off work in

2022 of January okay I was off that rest

of that semester but then last school

year okay

2022 2023 I actually uh you know

prescribed by my doctors actually my

natural path and uh my oncologist they

encourage exercise so I said well you

know what I can go back to like

volunteering and coaching some of the

sports teams at the high school I'm not

officially working but I'm volunteering

so Dwight and I um

last year we coached like four sports

teams together I wasn't working I'm off

I'm obviously going to be off for a long

time with stage four cancer but

um and having my best friend Dwight with

me makes it easy because you know what

when I when I do have to go for chemo

when I have these doctor's appointments

you know what I mean I know that him and

I were the same when it comes to

coaching so in that sense Dwight getting

back to what you said yes Dwight has

been my best friend

um on this journey um a size for my

family and uh you know I I credit

everything to him sure wow

wow

what what are like the chemo treatments

you're going in for what does that do

because I've heard different things on

chemo is it does it take a big toll does

it knock you down for a while or yeah uh

that's funny and and I heard that too

just like you heard

um how it's gonna really beat you up and

you know and then people are warning it

like you know chemo not only it's

supposed to attack the cancer cells they

say it attacks every single cell in your

body right and your immunity gets

lowered quite up you know your your

immunocompromised I was wearing a mask a

lot last year when I first started uh my chemotherapy

chemotherapy

um when I did those first three rounds

and I said I was on the standard

American diet or Mediterranean diet

whatever you want to call it uh I did

have ups and downs like when I came home

with that bottle attached oh I was

drained and then like when it came off

on the Friday Saturday and Sunday I was

drained you know the a little bit of not

not feeling nauseous

um it wasn't until

I got on my regiment

of diet and fasting

that my symptoms totally changed my

energy level totally changed okay and it

got better as I as I became to master

those things with diet and fasting and

supplements and I'll tell you

I really realized it because when I came

back to chemo just last week

um I wasn't into my regiment again

because what ended up happening and this

is you know I I don't think I shared

this with you Carrie uh

Wednesday when I made that video for you

uh and I started chemo the day before on

Tuesday I buried my father

oh my father yeah my father passed away okay

okay

um so

I had a lot going on in my life last

week and it's very emotional very tough um

so on the Monday of last week was

actually my son's birthday we didn't

celebrate because we're burying no no

who is my yes Italian and grandfather

were burying him on Tuesday and

um so but I ate you know I had a meal

with my son for his birthday Peter he

has 15th birthday and you know we we ate

uh my wife and I and two my two sons but

then on Tuesday my dad's funeral

uh there was a reception after it and I

felt the need to eat so I went into

and I I ate carnivore I'm not saying I

didn't like I didn't cheat or anything I

ate carnivore for those two days but

then I went into my chemo

without a fast because my my routine was

uh Sunday nights

I would stop eating I would do a

five-day fast around chemo so Sunday

Monday Tuesday Wednesday I'd have chemo

Thursday I'd be fasting Friday when the

bottle comes off I start eating again I

start consuming calories

so I had a routine going that like you

said Carrie

when I introduced my diet and My fasting

and I and I pretty much know I kind of

know like I don't even have to do a keto

test like I know actually I do do a keto

test when I go for chemo if I start

fasting on Sunday

when I go for chemo on Wednesday when

they test my urine I have ketones

overflowing and I know that's like I'm

in a good state of ketosis

um that anyways when I'm in ketosis

which I am quite often through my diet

and fasting my symptoms are really good

like I I don't like I still get kind of

tired for the Wednesday Thursday Friday

but this past weekend like Saturday

Sunday I was I was back at it like I you

know and and this week I've been

phenomenal like I've been feeling

optimal as optimal as I can feel

um and and I totally 100 contribute it

to to diet diet and fasting

wow and so this this sorry and moving

and exercise right okay those are key

too sorry so this whole regimen uh you

were guided towards this from your

friend Dwight watching some videos but I

mean did you kind of formulate this

we're like okay I'm doing the chemo on

this day so I got to start fasting this

was there anything out there like that

or did you just kind of put all this

together with all of your research

it yeah that's a good question it it was

a little bit of everything so do I

got Dr Berg first video learning about

fasting uh the French fellow had the

same thing he did 21 day fast and he ate

rib eye steaks that's all he ate is rib

eye steaks okay and then I had that one

for another friend that that that woman

I met from Brantford uh who had it and

she she started she was in she's in

remission now she had it for two years

colon cancer and hers was in the liver

lungs everywhere and her she wrote a

book and it's called My Miracle Journey

um uh her name's uh and I got no problem

spitting it out there because she's all

over the place too her name's Ronnie Campbell

Campbell

um and uh so from her she had the same

thing I had and her regimen was

Tuesday Wednesday Thursday no no eating

okay and she was pretty ketogenic she

wasn't carnivore I think she was a

little bit and this is where I'm sure we

can get in discussions later uh Carey uh

I'm not a big fan of what they call the

keto diet because you know Society has

you know they slapped the word keto and

everything without even knowing the

meaning of things and I'm not a big fan

of edge

um for many reasons everything I'm

learning from Dr Anthony chafee

um and even just all the doctors in

general what I'm learning what I'm

learning from them so you know that

Ronnie uh the videos Dwight

I started piecing everything together

and you know another one of the other

doctors I'll tell you right now is uh

I'm huge on his Dr Thomas Seyfried I

mentioned it earlier okay he's like uh

he's a professor of cancer biology I

think he's off top my head I think he's

at Harvard

um one of the famous universities in the

States but Thomas Seaford you know he's

a veteran when it comes to studying

cancer and as a metabolic disease okay

and that's another thing like I don't

this is not this is not heretic this is

not a genetic disease okay I think it's

a metabolic disease as the mitochondrion

gone wrong and

Thomas Seifert says it as it is if you

block glucose and you block glutamine

tumors can't grow he and he says it he

said he he actually I I listen to him

every day because he makes he gives me

hope so I um and

and

a ketogenic Giant was a way for me to start

start

but I never would have thought I'm

getting I'm I'm

pretty much carnivore I I'm not I know

Carrie you've done the last six months

you've done like the lion diet which is

amazing and I think I do need to do that

soon I'll have a week I have weeks at a

time where I do that but when I say on

Carnivore you know I've graduated from

like keto carnivore to you know 70

carnivore 30 keto to like

carnivore sometimes to like

carnival animal base and I'm not animal

based like the way Paul saladino is I'm

like he he kind of drives me nuts when

he says he's animal based because he

eats too much way too much way too much

glucose and fructose okay right so

um but if he doesn't have cancer you

know what I mean so

right now when I say I'm carnivore I'm

animal products like I I do eat the good

cheeses like the asiago cheese the

harder cheese it's not the fake cheeses

I eat eggs like crazy because I think

eggs are life and there's so many

vitamins and minerals in there

um and mainly red meat rib eyes like

Dwight's hook me up with a butcher where

we're my freezer's loaded with Ribeyes

um ground beef

um you know I do eat chicken and I do

eat pork and I do eat seafood but you

know what I mean like once in a while

beef is my is my main staple

and it's become my son's my my two sons

their main staple too uh Peter is pretty

much carnivore Dante my younger son is

working towards it

um my wife I'm really proud of she's

she's cute she's keto she loves her veg

and and she's got to do what she's got

to do right in her life and that's fine

um but you know I'm doing what I'm doing uh

because I have cancer and because

everything I'm learning and piecing together

together

right I just as a side note I love that

one of your son's name is Dante

oh are you still there okay sorry I think

that I think I'm back now can you hear

me okay yes I am yeah okay yeah I think

I was gonna say um yes

I love that one of your sons names is

Dante I only know one other Dante that's

Dante Ferrigno uh carnivore diet lion

diet and that's how I learned about

carnivore was from Dante so that's kind

of cool really

Dr perigno

yep frign no freedom

that's amazing

I didn't know yeah

Dante Ferrigno the athlete

yeah no you know that no he's uh yeah

sorry there's a little delay I think

he's a YouTuber he's been doing uh lion

diet for a little over two years he's

about to hit a thousand days on Lion

diet but he was one of the yeah if you

get a chance check him out Ferrigno freedom

freedom

uh he was one of the first people to

document on YouTube doing uh carnivore

or lion diet it's kind of remarkable his

his results he had but

I'll be watching him tonight for sure

yeah so

Jeff you mentioned um you mentioned a

little bit and you did another video I

think it was your second video titled

what caused my cancer can you talk about

that a little more yes um

first off I love what we're doing here

and I think I need to do a little bit

more of this because this is a little

more cat uh casual professional but

casual uh my two sons you know you know

my first video was fine I was pretty

beat up from chemo but I was pretty

monotoned and robotic and my second one

I my son said yeah Dad you're a little

bit too robotic in that video but you

know I did the whole point of everything

is to deliver the message and and to

start a network for people that are

going through uh cancer or similar type

autoimmune diseases or any any metabolic

disease that you know they can grab bits

and pieces from me so

I now realize like sometimes I'm like

even my buddy Dwight's like

your next video needs to be you need to

tell your story right like you need to

start with that right and I think I

think you helped me out here with this

video Gary is that you know you got me

telling my story so I maybe I jumped the

gun a little bit there on uh my second

video when I titled it what caused my

cancer but I just you know I I explained

that I've learned that

even though they they did

they did a test through uh

through an autopsy to see if I my cancer

was genetic caused uh hereditary and I

what I'm not uh even though my mom on a

different story uh my dad who passed

away he passed away from leukemia my mom

had uh a form of cancer years years ago

but she beat it but she hers was genetic

and uh she had immunotherapy help her

out so I was kind of at the time when I

didn't know much about cancer much about

diet or much about metabolic diseases at

the time when the genetic uh

test was done on my cancer I was a

little disappointed because I kind of I

had a good experience with immunotherapy

through my mom so I was kind of hoping

um that

I had genetic cancer but anyways

genetics and mutations and this and that

to me that's one small little variable

from what I've learned can cause cancer

all cancers I believe from everything

I've been learning is it it's it's

metabolic disease and that's why I

wanted to make that video that second

video what caused my cancer

I believe and through all my research

and you know my conversations with my

unofficial Dr Dwight uh my buddy

he said you caused your cancer Jeff and

I I I caused my cancer and I caused it

through lifestyle I I think in the video

I mentioned uh oxidative stress on your

cells which uh you know that's a

lifestyle thing like in terms of uh you

know what I talk I mentioned about like

having a vitamin D deficiency

um I mentioned uh

carbs diet I mentioned uh lifestyle and

I even added in alcohol there

um because that's all part of oxidative

stress uh and not that I was I'm an

alcoholic like during the school year

like I you know the odd time on a Friday

night I have a drink right but uh and

this as a teacher Summer's off sometimes

you know and going on vacations and

stuff you know I would abuse that and I

did that for 15 years and

you know I'm sure there's a lot of

adults in the world that do stuff like

that but you know

the way I'm built I've learned the way

I'm I'm built from my osteopath and uh

maybe doing all these things the

lifestyle put a lot of stress on

cells in my body in a certain way so um

I think I caused my disease and I'm I'm

trying to believe and hope that I can

reverse my disease as much as possible

by doing the regimen that I'm doing

right yeah thank you for sharing that

because that's the thing like when I

hear cancer

you know it's always like well what

caused it it always seems like we don't

know we can't we can't figure it out it

sounds like you got kind of a good idea

wow based on your experience

yeah my doctors they when I said when I

asked my doctors like the oncologists

and the and that colon liver spatulas

their answer to me you know what it's

not genetic it's a fluke it's just a

fluke I'm so sorry to say I'm they would

say I'm so sorry it's a flute but it's

it's not a fluke I think like everything

I'm learning especially about diet

and the stuff that we're eating

causes a lot of problems right so um

you know I these are all inferences you

know that I'm making and you know I'm

not a doctor and I can't say I can't say

that when I tell it what caused my

cancer this is me what I believe

um it caused my cancer and I think uh

like I said earlier I'm the living test

test tube and I can see it in what I'm

doing every single day now for the past

year and a half

wow so so okay now then you started

doing carnivore and you you mentioned

this a little bit in the other video but

it's gonna be a lot of people here that

maybe didn't see that one so how are

things going now well you kind of said

this already but you've you you've been

feeling better

um not as drained during chemo and

things like that have you noticed other

things changing with you as you're doing

carnivore yes that's that's a great question

question um

when you

when I say

um everybody I mean uh everybody in in the

the

Community I live in especially the high

school I teach at I'm known as Mr

prosperous the high school phys ed

teacher and I always looked very fit so

when I left work and I was actually just

I was at my school earlier today and I

was talking to a close teacher friend of mine

mine

um and she asked me she's like because

she was asking about my story a little

bit actually this morning because I told

her I had to go home to film this and

she said like yeah everybody like

everybody knew you as fit and that

you're a Mr prosperous fit and healthy

and like you're strong and I taught not

only I teach and coach all the sports I

created a weightlifting course that I

taught for the past 10 years

um but you know what I was always for

the past ever since I've been and this

happens to many of us when we get into

our careers

after you know high school and

University you get to your adult weight

and I was not happy with my adult weight like

you know I've been on my journey for a

year and a half but if you even go back

to two years ago before I decided to

become a vegetarian when I said I was

having earlier I was saying I I was

bloated and everything like

a month before that like I'm talking

like two years ago three two to three

years ago

I was the heaviest ever 211 pounds and

nobody would nobody would see I but now

when I look at photos and Dwight

actually my best friend Dwight sent me a

photo of us coaching together like four

years ago and like my face looks

thick like I look thick I'm I'm wearing like

large or extra large shorts to like

because I had because I I had to I

wanted to hide I wanted to hide like

what I was storing in my gut you know

what I mean like um

I wasn't happy I was still I was playing

soccer as an adult I was coaching a lot

I was moving I was still doing all these

things I was performing uh but I wasn't

happy I knew I was way too heavy so

carnivore what ended up happening and

when I when I especially with the fast

thing but most but I'll tell you I'll

tell you my regimen here when I started

going on Carnivore and fasting I started

dropping the weight immediately within

the first couple months and I got down I

got down to about the lowest I ever saw

was 148 pounds from 211 to 148. wow like

within with like like within months of

being carnivore and fasting and the

fasting part of it a lot of that was

water retention and I figured that out

but once I started to really take

control of my body

160 I'm 160 right now and I've been in

for the past the whole pretty much

majority of my chemo regimen last year

and even this past summer

which I cheated a lot on fasting I

didn't fast that much over the summer on

my chemo break but I ate a lot like I

ate a ton of carnivore and so basically

on my regimen during my year

I would basically eat one week

and not eat the next week when I'm on

chemo the five days so when I'm eating I

eat like I eat a lot and I learned this

from like Anthony chafee I learned this

from Sean Baker Kennedy Berry uh

to eat and like Anthony chafee even said

he eats late at night and so now I was

always concerned about that like yeah

but I've learned if you eat carbs yeah

don't go to bed but I'm eating like meat

like I'm eating pork rinds a bowl of

pork rinds before I go to bed and I feel

fine or or if I have some leftover uh

beef patties from dinner there's two or

three left in the fridge like I'll eat

them at 10 o'clock at night and I go to

bed like a lion does right like so I'm

I'm eat I'll eat like me and my boys

I'll tell you a story we

we've added this into our regimen when

we're on the go because I'm on the go

quite a bit with them for sports so when

I don't have time to cook for them at

home and we're in a rush and we need to

stop at like we have uh a w here in

Canada if you have a w and you have a w

there yeah it's supposed to be supposed

to be grass-fed beef whatever I'm sure

it's not all right I'm sure it's not

grass finished beef but anyways

it's supposed to be real healthy for a

fast food joint but we even go to uh

Wendy's and we go to McDonald's and we

grab patties we just grab patties so so

my sons like my son Peter before a

soccer game or even a practice

he's he's like five five patties like

five quart like five quarter pound

patties like wow like like an hour

before a soccer practice and if you

watch him perform it's like he he he's

he's working his butt off and he's

optimal and he doesn't complain he never

feels bloated and I don't feel bloated

either like I'll eat five or six Burgers

when we go to McDonald's to get burgers

we get those little thin ones right so

we my son Peter gets like ten I get like

eight wait you know we started doing

like I think you taught me this and my

buddy Dwight taught me this uh I carry

Redmond fine salt with me and we still

put on it and then we just and we eat it

um so I can eat as much as I want and I

also have mastered fasting even when I'm

fasting like in the past year the lowest

I'll get is like 158 when I go in for

chemo when they weigh me 158 and then

like it's 158 to 162. and then when I'm

eating like crazy I'm like one sick I'm

162. but yeah like I've taken taken

control and it's such a it's such an

amazing relief because I know this is

going to sound kind of cheesy uh Carrie but

but

like the food I was eating before

was way too much in control of me way

too much in control of my body yes like

like carbs basically carbs whatever you

want to call it because carbs sugar

glucose are all the same molecule like they

they

they were they were you know they were

hiding everything like you know what

when I talk about earlier like I wish I

would have did something earlier about

my colon cancer that's probably was

there for five years

it was hidden

I'm not just talking by fat but but by

everything by inflammation by you know

by your body adapting to all these

horrible foods that you're putting in

your body so now on Carnivore I just I

feel like no The food doesn't control me

I could I control it like you know you

know that's that's I just kind of came

up with that right now to be honest with

you I love that I know it sounds kind of

cheesy too I've been I had that saying

for a while that I'm the captain of my

own ship now I'm in control yes it's a

carnivore because I didn't go into

carnivore to be in control but it's a

complete life shift on like every aspect

of things it's really weird you really

realize how liberating it is to be on

Carnivore and and how much of just you

were that food was controlling us before

because it's everything every meal what

are we gonna eat what are we gonna do

and it's like none of that anymore I

think the biggest word is inflammation

and I think even like even you taught

like I know from watching your videos

you talk about your toe quite a bit like

and that would that that's inflammation yes

yes

and you got written you got rid of it

right 100 gone and they were gonna do

surgery on that toe so that's crazy

that's crazy and this guy

I always gotta shout out my friend bill

but this guy here in Alaska 700 pound

bill that was that was his most amazing thing

thing

um going to the bathroom every day was

agonizing and within like two weeks he's

like Carrie it's how does this happening

so fast I said inflammation it's just

the inflammation that that's one

encouraging thing for people that are

thinking about starting carnivore is

that that's one thing that happens

pretty quick on carnivores that

inflammation starts yeah yes big time

and people should be more worried about

it and they're not in the general public

it's always you're gonna die of a heart

attack what's your cholesterol look like

and meanwhile they're fully inflamed and

their metabolic health is horrible yeah

thinking about the wrong things but

that's so cool with your boys too I I

can't imagine I've when I did the I got

the little air fryer there when I did

the 24 hour live stream yes I I'm right

around 162. at my heaviest I was 262 and

I recently got down so I'm down 100

since my heavies I didn't lose all of

that on Carnival I lost most of it I did

some of it on keto before like you were

talking about yes yes and then I I kept

falling off because of all those stupid

keto snacks and keto this and that but

anyhow out um I started getting really

really hungry when I lost most of this

weight when I did that 24 hour live

stream I had two rib eyes two strip

steaks and I had two huge bowls of

scrambled eggs with ground beef and

bacon in them and I was still hungry now

granted that was kind of a taxing thing

for 24 hours but it's I've been I've

been eating a lot too and it was just

like you said Jeff I uh you don't feel

it like before yeah you feel heavy you

know what I you know I sometimes

there's a lot of things I'm sure like I

because I hear the way you interact and

talk to your wife too and my wife is

like I try to explain to her like I

don't get full and she's like stop

making this up you don't get full you

want you like she gets frustrated with

me sometimes when I'm trying to explain

how much success I'm having with my diet

and it's it's the absolute truth like I

you know

I I don't feel I don't feel bloated and

full ever like I you know I remember

Anthony chafee just saying all the time

and me and my boys have learned this

like as soon as the the meat stops

tasting good while you eat it you stop

right and then and it's not it's that

simple but you know what like an hour

later I'm hungry again and I'm like like

not no I don't need to be hungry not

like the carb crave hungry but I I could

eat another three or four burgers or or

a couple more pieces of ribeye if I need

it if if I if I wanted to I don't have

to but if I wanted to right it's a it's

a different kind of hunger not like that

old the Carb Day hunger where it's yes

sugar Cravings it's different for sure

it's cool how uh you talk about Dr

chafee have you seen um his refrigerator uh

uh from time to time yeah I'll have to

send you he did a short I'll have to

send you this video because sure life

goals his refrigerator you open the door

and it's a hundred percent meat there's

nothing else in it and it's all of these

rib eyes and steaks and they're all on

racks and he ages them in the fridge but

the whole thing is just full of full of

meat I was like when I had a man I had

to show that yeah amazing

so man I'm really enjoying talking do

you have uh

I can't believe it's almost been an hour

already I've got plenty of time but I

don't want to I want to be respectful of

your time so I forgot it okay pretty

good today I I was really excited to

meet you Carrie so I tried to I tried to

block up as much time as possible

because I didn't know I didn't know how

much how long this would take so yeah

I'm having a good time thanks likewise

and I'd love to do this again anytime

but we could talk about that a little

bit more um

with your sons too that that is amazing

they're doing that I like when you see

you you guys love Dr chafee I do too

when you look at him and you're like

this guy is like human 2.0 or something

because he has no surgery for like 18

hours a day and then he's on YouTube for

until two three o'clock when does he

have time he doesn't have time to work

out yeah and he he looks he looks like a

superhero or something he looks like a

bodybuilder it's it's carnivore now

imagine for your sons that's why I kept

saying like this next generation of kids

man if they started eating imagine Dr

chafee because he's only been doing it

five ten years if he had done that as a

child now your sons are getting into it

that's I'm so happy for them that's

really cool thanks a lot and you you

nailed it like imagine if our all our

kids you know got on board in in today's

world and when I you know when I

mentioned what I mentioned earlier that

I was a little bit embarrassed what I've

taught like I taught I taught nutrition

to my health classes and I you know the

the Canada food guy and probably

probably similar to the American food

guide like it's just it's all set up

wrong in terms of what we should be

eating and and from what I've learned okay

okay

um and

you know my buddy Dwight because I keep

referring to him but because he's become

my best friend and we coach together and

and he he's an athlete and I'm an

athlete and you know he's like and he

knows my sons and he knows how I you

know I live my life with my sons every

single day trying to make them as

optimal as possible not you know not as

an athlete but in school when it comes

to like mental Clarity and smarts and

everything right so Dwight was like yeah

like we're from the start when I started

having success with this he's like yeah

you got to try to get Peter and Dante

there too and I was like you know at

first when people hear that

um especially my wife she she was a

little bit you know a little bit stand

backish on it like you know we're doing

this to our kids we're taking all these

you know healthy vegetables and fruits

and and this away from our kids like

well they're growing Yeah the more and

more we learn and the more and more we see

see

um again like my sons are living tests

like my son Peter you know he's 15. uh

you know I'm five foot ten he's he's six

foot one already okay he's still he's

still growing

um he's getting stronger he's he's

always been really skinny but now he's

starting to fake it thicken up and get stronger

stronger

um and he feels really good when he eats

meat and my son's my son Dante's having

the same success okay so and when you

look at them when people always like

people want to judge so much you know I

mean Dr Anthony chafee nailed it like

you're gonna have a lot of haters out

there and you have a lot of people you

know thinking thinking you're crazy and

what you're doing and everything but you

know if you look at my son Dante and

Peter they have the glow too you know

what I mean you can you can just tell

they're not missing any you know they're

not missing any essential nutrients

because they can get all those essential

nutrients from from a ribeye steak or or

any types of pretty much all types of

beef okay and you know then they're the

same thing they eat eggs uh Peter

doesn't eat cheese because there's bad

things in cheese too I I gotta try to

eliminate that right

um so

you know

yeah and you you can even talk about the

science like the human growth the human

growth hormones increased when you're a car when you're a carnivore and these

car when you're a carnivore and these boys that are growing okay like would

boys that are growing okay like would you not want that right instead of

you not want that right instead of instead of like you know when they you

instead of like you know when they you talk about I know you talked about it

talk about I know you talked about it many times and your videos carry but you

many times and your videos carry but you know if you study anthropology on how

know if you study anthropology on how the humans were this tall and that

the humans were this tall and that agriculture came and now we're This Tall

agriculture came and now we're This Tall like it's proven right there like

like it's proven right there like there's something's going on with our

there's something's going on with our food that we need to change and we need

food that we need to change and we need to change it for our kids so when people

to change it for our kids so when people question hey what are you doing for your

question hey what are you doing for your kids I'm like uh

kids I'm like uh I'm trying to make my kids as optimal as

I'm trying to make my kids as optimal as possible in life you know I'm doing them

possible in life you know I'm doing them a benefit I I think just like you know

a benefit I I think just like you know yeah absolutely that that's one of the

yeah absolutely that that's one of the reasons with the carnivore diet

reasons with the carnivore diet documentary that really got me fired up

documentary that really got me fired up uh Dr Baker again I mentioned him

uh Dr Baker again I mentioned him earlier but uh he said on the podcast

earlier but uh he said on the podcast he's like it's such a sad thing that

he's like it's such a sad thing that this next generation of kids they're

this next generation of kids they're never gonna know what it's like to be

never gonna know what it's like to be normal to feel like a natural human

normal to feel like a natural human you're just from a yeah yeah yeah apple

you're just from a yeah yeah yeah apple juice and sugar and inflammation and

juice and sugar and inflammation and then they get ADHD and learning

then they get ADHD and learning disorders and uh problems and then they

disorders and uh problems and then they get in their teenage years they start

get in their teenage years they start getting the depression and anxiety and

getting the depression and anxiety and all these other issues it's just

all these other issues it's just you just remind me when you said apple

you just remind me when you said apple juice and orange juice and all that

juice and orange juice and all that stuff you know the stuff that they even

stuff you know the stuff that they even in the schools they feed it in Breakfast

in the schools they feed it in Breakfast Club to kids right

Club to kids right um you know and I got no problem saying

um you know and I got no problem saying this because if and I'm gonna say this

this because if and I'm gonna say this right now and if the hospitals have a

right now and if the hospitals have a problem with it change

problem with it change like I go into you know

like I go into you know I go in for cancer treatment every other

I go in for cancer treatment every other week

week and what they do is there's a there's

and what they do is there's a there's actually a refrigerator of Ensure I'm

actually a refrigerator of Ensure I'm not sure do you know what insurer is

not sure do you know what insurer is it's like oh yeah it it you know it it's

it's like oh yeah it it you know it it's a calorie but it's it's all sugar it's

a calorie but it's it's all sugar it's all you know it's a calorie boosting uh

all you know it's a calorie boosting uh meal replacement type thing okay and

meal replacement type thing okay and it's available there for the cancer

it's available there for the cancer patients and then you know then they're

patients and then you know then they're coming around you know the volunteers

coming around you know the volunteers coming around hey would you like a

coming around hey would you like a cookie hey would you like this this

cookie hey would you like this this Brett this piece of uh breadcracker or

Brett this piece of uh breadcracker or you know can I get you some juice I'm

you know can I get you some juice I'm thinking everything I'm learning and

thinking everything I'm learning and like and meanwhile I'm the only one

like and meanwhile I'm the only one sitting in the Cancer Clinic that you

sitting in the Cancer Clinic that you know I haven't eaten since two or three

know I haven't eaten since two or three days ago and you know and I'm feeling

days ago and you know and I'm feeling great right and I don't know I just uh

great right and I don't know I just uh it's just shocking how we're we can see

it's just shocking how we're we can see like I think you and I can see it

like I think you and I can see it because we're a little more aware right

because we're a little more aware right now but

now but it's almost like the rest of the world

it's almost like the rest of the world is blind to like everything that's

is blind to like everything that's happening to our kids and to us as

happening to our kids and to us as adults like

44 years old I'm not supposed to have stage four cancer like and there's lots

stage four cancer like and there's lots of other people like younger than me

of other people like younger than me that are getting it like

that are getting it like more and more it's it's it's a weird

more and more it's it's it's a weird place we're living right now and I

place we're living right now and I that's why I'm having a hard time with

that's why I'm having a hard time with uh

uh I guess uh not spreading my story right

I guess uh not spreading my story right because uh I think I it needs to get out

because uh I think I it needs to get out there

there right yeah it's interesting I how you

right yeah it's interesting I how you said that because

said that because I didn't notice it before either just

I didn't notice it before either just everything becomes normal when you're

everything becomes normal when you're kind of living like that and now that I

kind of living like that and now that I don't know our brains are clear the

don't know our brains are clear the brain fog's cleared up but I look around

brain fog's cleared up but I look around too just like you said and you look

too just like you said and you look around and well people getting cancer

around and well people getting cancer younger is of course one of them but

younger is of course one of them but just just the average population people

just just the average population people just don't look healthy don't feel

just don't look healthy don't feel healthy everyone has these ailments and

healthy everyone has these ailments and issues and depression and heart diseases

issues and depression and heart diseases going through the roof it's

going through the roof it's yeah it's it's crazy it's weird these

yeah it's it's crazy it's weird these things start revealing themselves more

things start revealing themselves more and more that's why it's fun talking to

and more that's why it's fun talking to you Jeff and other carnivores because

you Jeff and other carnivores because it's like we we get it we're seriously

it's like we we get it we're seriously what do we do about it so you know what

what do we do about it so you know what I'll tell you something

I'll tell you something um you

um you because my son Peter and Dante I think

because my son Peter and Dante I think it was Dante the other day he goes to me

it was Dante the other day he goes to me dad like other than Dwight

dad like other than Dwight we don't have already had any carnivore

we don't have already had any carnivore friends and I'm like you're right like

friends and I'm like you're right like I'm like but now Carrie you're you're my

I'm like but now Carrie you're you're my you're like my second carnivore friend

you're like my second carnivore friend so and my so I'm pretty happy about that

so and my so I'm pretty happy about that I have some notes here I'm not even

I have some notes here I'm not even really going off of them because this

really going off of them because this conversation is great but literally one

conversation is great but literally one of them on here is this is kind of

of them on here is this is kind of childish but Jeff will you be my friend

childish but Jeff will you be my friend now because I'm dead serious man I'm

now because I'm dead serious man I'm here for you forever thank you I I I you

here for you forever thank you I I I you you said that to me in an email uh last

you said that to me in an email uh last week and it brought tears in my eyes

week and it brought tears in my eyes Gary because uh

Gary because uh for one what I'm going through it's it's

for one what I'm going through it's it's very tough and I you know and I did tell

very tough and I you know and I did tell you I'm in my personal life I'm very

you I'm in my personal life I'm very introverted and I I keep to myself into

introverted and I I keep to myself into my small group of friends so I

my small group of friends so I definitely I'm taking you in Carrie I'm

definitely I'm taking you in Carrie I'm gonna be self I'm gonna be selfish here

gonna be self I'm gonna be selfish here and I'm taking you in for sure

and I'm taking you in for sure absolutely I appreciate it I love I love

absolutely I appreciate it I love I love your story I love your passion whether

your story I love your passion whether you want to share this with people and

you want to share this with people and uh

uh yeah I just like you in general so

yeah I just like you in general so that's the thing with carnivores you're

that's the thing with carnivores you're gonna see this Jeff this is the thing

gonna see this Jeff this is the thing with carnivore it's well you probably

with carnivore it's well you probably already are seeing it but if you start

already are seeing it but if you start doing more of this YouTube stuff the

doing more of this YouTube stuff the carnivore community of people it's the

carnivore community of people it's the most amazing people I don't know what it

most amazing people I don't know what it is it's like you mentioned earlier your

is it's like you mentioned earlier your son's getting the glow I see you have

son's getting the glow I see you have the glow it's just this uh it's a weird

the glow it's just this uh it's a weird thing it's like when the when the brain

thing it's like when the when the brain and the body when it's in the natural

and the body when it's in the natural human State you're just nice you're just

human State you're just nice you're just you're just good nice people they're so

you're just good nice people they're so much more positive it's it's really it's

much more positive it's it's really it's really interesting because literally

really interesting because literally everyone I've met over the last six

everyone I've met over the last six months I'm like these people are great I

months I'm like these people are great I want to spend more time I want to

want to spend more time I want to surround myself with people like Jeff

surround myself with people like Jeff um so thank you thank you yeah

um so thank you thank you yeah absolutely so uh with the carnivore diet

absolutely so uh with the carnivore diet documentary kind of the goal is to reach

documentary kind of the goal is to reach people that are hopeless

people that are hopeless um or that are desperate and I really

um or that are desperate and I really think there's a lot of people out there

think there's a lot of people out there they always say with carnivore you have

they always say with carnivore you have to have your why you obviously have a

to have your why you obviously have a huge why

huge why yeah um but I get the feeling that there

yeah um but I get the feeling that there are a lot of people that are already

are a lot of people that are already hopeless or desperate they have a why

hopeless or desperate they have a why they just don't know how to start they

they just don't know how to start they don't know the how they're scared

don't know the how they're scared they're like a deer stuck in the

they're like a deer stuck in the headlights like what do I do this is

headlights like what do I do this is crazy I can't just eat meat what do you

crazy I can't just eat meat what do you think for those people if you could say

think for those people if you could say anything to them it's a hard

anything to them it's a hard conversation to have with people that

conversation to have with people that are that are like that they want to

are that are like that they want to change but they're too scared to

change but they're too scared to sorry

sorry I just want to make sure I'm answering

I just want to make sure I'm answering this properly is this for

this properly is this for people that want to change

people that want to change that they think they have no health

that they think they have no health problems but they want to change or

problems but they want to change or people that do have are diagnosed with

people that do have are diagnosed with something people that do but maybe

something people that do but maybe they're not sure for example a big one

they're not sure for example a big one is depression I'm horribly depressed I'm

is depression I'm horribly depressed I'm hopeless I don't know what to do I want

hopeless I don't know what to do I want to do something but then maybe someone

to do something but then maybe someone says we'll try this carnivore thing all

says we'll try this carnivore thing all these people are having success but

these people are having success but they're too scared they're terrified of

they're too scared they're terrified of how can I eat only meat how could I

how can I eat only meat how could I change they're scared to change kind of

change they're scared to change kind of like a deer stuck in the headlights I

like a deer stuck in the headlights I told I get it now um

told I get it now um and

and and I think the best way that I can

and I think the best way that I can think about this and I'm just trying to

think about this and I'm just trying to think of it in perspective to the people

think of it in perspective to the people that are close to me in my life right

that are close to me in my life right now and that's where I wanted to start

now and that's where I wanted to start like in terms of my my sons and my my

like in terms of my my sons and my my wife uh my sister my brother-in-law my

wife uh my sister my brother-in-law my parents uh you know I lost my father

parents uh you know I lost my father just recently but even my mom you know

just recently but even my mom you know she's older I I want to start with them

she's older I I want to start with them because I love them so much

because I love them so much right so I st I'm trying to start but I

right so I st I'm trying to start but I understand where they're coming from

understand where they're coming from like I even have conversations with my

like I even have conversations with my sister uh a lot who she's like yeah but

sister uh a lot who she's like yeah but that's what you do Jeff like like you do

that's what you do Jeff like like you do what you have to do and I and I there's

what you have to do and I and I there's a lot of things I I can see you know

a lot of things I I can see you know with my sister my brother-in-law okay

with my sister my brother-in-law okay even my wife my mom like I see them

even my wife my mom like I see them that I know I hope that if they just

that I know I hope that if they just tried it themselves they're gonna feel

tried it themselves they're gonna feel the benefits they're going to see the

the benefits they're going to see the benefits okay I get how their doubters

benefits okay I get how their doubters and how they've been raised and how

and how they've been raised and how they've all been brainwashed by Society

they've all been brainwashed by Society I get that I get all that but I always

I get that I get all that but I always say and I think um

say and I think um it might be candy Barry the 30-day

it might be candy Barry the 30-day challenge or whoever whoever it is

challenge or whoever whoever it is um

um Dr Kilts is another one I talked to I I

Dr Kilts is another one I talked to I I watch all the time uh they always say

watch all the time uh they always say like do it for 30 days like can you do

like do it for 30 days like can you do it for 30 days just try it and you know

it for 30 days just try it and you know what I mean even if it's not carnivore

what I mean even if it's not carnivore even if it's just if it's just keto okay

even if it's just if it's just keto okay whatever you want to call it like don't

whatever you want to call it like don't whatever you do don't buy the the

whatever you do don't buy the the rappers that say Keo in the grocery

rappers that say Keo in the grocery store like stick to whatever if you want

store like stick to whatever if you want to eat veg stick to the keto veg even

to eat veg stick to the keto veg even though I can't stand that uh there's a

though I can't stand that uh there's a lot of negatives to that but start with

lot of negatives to that but start with that and do it for 30 days

that and do it for 30 days do the ketogenic diet for 30 days or do

do the ketogenic diet for 30 days or do carnivore for 30 days and see what

carnivore for 30 days and see what happens and I almost guarantee

happens and I almost guarantee um

um that you're going to see some benefits I

that you're going to see some benefits I can almost I I know I know they will

can almost I I know I know they will like I just

like I just um uh you know I have another one of

um uh you know I have another one of those close people in my life complains

those close people in my life complains about like

about like soreness in the shoulder and neck and

soreness in the shoulder and neck and this and that and I'm like

this and that and I'm like it's inflammation you know you know it's

it's inflammation you know you know it's it's it's it's inflammation it's uh you

it's it's it's inflammation it's uh you know it's all it's oxalates it's this

know it's all it's oxalates it's this and that you know things that are

and that you know things that are causing problems to yourselves right to

causing problems to yourselves right to your body so you if you can lower those

your body so you if you can lower those okay

okay um you're gonna see all these aches and

um you're gonna see all these aches and pains go away so

pains go away so um

um and to the people that are out there

and to the people that are out there that

that are fighting something like I am uh you

are fighting something like I am uh you know a horrible disease in your life

know a horrible disease in your life that's really

that's really taking control of you which it shouldn't

taking control of you which it shouldn't um if you can take control of it and if

um if you can take control of it and if you can do that by you know grabbing

you can do that by you know grabbing maybe even even one little Timbit for me

maybe even even one little Timbit for me today you know grabbing a Timbit for me

today you know grabbing a Timbit for me grabbing a tidbit from Carrie you know

grabbing a tidbit from Carrie you know all the doctors the great doctors that

all the doctors the great doctors that are on YouTube

are on YouTube um

um hopefully it'll give you hope and you

hopefully it'll give you hope and you know it it will change you uh physically

know it it will change you uh physically and mentally while you're on your while

and mentally while you're on your while you're on your journey

you're on your journey yeah absolutely I uh

yeah absolutely I uh one of the things too that's great so

one of the things too that's great so some people aren't going to they're not

some people aren't going to they're not gonna they're just not going to want to

gonna they're just not going to want to do it but they see your example Jeff and

do it but they see your example Jeff and then if they ever have to if they get to

then if they ever have to if they get to a point where they have to they'll have

a point where they have to they'll have this in their toolbox so I try to look

this in their toolbox so I try to look at the Silver Lining there the only the

at the Silver Lining there the only the only then looking at the negative I did

only then looking at the negative I did an interview with uh lee carnivore Kent

an interview with uh lee carnivore Kent and uh sadly he lost his colon uh he had

and uh sadly he lost his colon uh he had to have surgery to have his colon

to have surgery to have his colon removed from colitis and uh he's doing

removed from colitis and uh he's doing carnivore now and he's just thriving he

carnivore now and he's just thriving he overcame depression anxiety but his

overcame depression anxiety but his message was I wish I knew about this

message was I wish I knew about this before I lost my colon so hopefully

before I lost my colon so hopefully hopefully his advice was hopefully

hopefully his advice was hopefully people don't wait until it's too long

people don't wait until it's too long and they end up you know losing their

and they end up you know losing their colon like he had to or something more

colon like he had to or something more serious like that

serious like that um absolutely because any ideas is

um absolutely because any ideas is inflammation right yes so if you got it

inflammation right yes so if you got it got any type of itis out there

got any type of itis out there start by trying to take control of it

start by trying to take control of it yourself

yourself right

right so Jeff what can we expect from uh what

so Jeff what can we expect from uh what are your plans coming up like are you

are your plans coming up like are you gonna be doing a lot more YouTube videos

gonna be doing a lot more YouTube videos you've seen you seem pretty fired up and

you've seen you seem pretty fired up and passionate about this uh if you if you

passionate about this uh if you if you if you're willing to help me out

if you're willing to help me out yes that was great yes I definitely I

yes that was great yes I definitely I definitely need you in my life to help

definitely need you in my life to help me out with this um uh I would like to

me out with this um uh I would like to uh like

uh like you don't understand how like my my boys

you don't understand how like my my boys also they're uh they're not your typical

also they're uh they're not your typical teenagers like Dante's 13 and 15 like

teenagers like Dante's 13 and 15 like Peter just got his first device phone

Peter just got his first device phone last year and Dante doesn't have one yet

last year and Dante doesn't have one yet uh but they're pretty like on board with

uh but they're pretty like on board with uh when it comes to knowing about social

uh when it comes to knowing about social media and they're so excited because all

media and they're so excited because all we do is watch YouTube that like like

we do is watch YouTube that like like Peter's like Dad uh I think because I

Peter's like Dad uh I think because I was leaving the house today and uh he's

was leaving the house today and uh he's like he's like Dad I hope you know

like he's like Dad I hope you know earlier this morning he could I hope you

earlier this morning he could I hope you have an awesome time with Carrie like

have an awesome time with Carrie like you know good luck good luck on your on

you know good luck good luck on your on your interview with Carrie so

your interview with Carrie so you know I want to

you know I want to um I want to continue I know I know

um I want to continue I know I know you're willing to help me and um I'm

you're willing to help me and um I'm gonna try and get better at it I think

gonna try and get better at it I think it's it's I think when you when you do

it's it's I think when you when you do something like this like honestly when I

something like this like honestly when I when I was teaching like for the past

when I was teaching like for the past five six years and these random

five six years and these random teenagers come into me in a health class

teenagers come into me in a health class or in the gym in fizenna hey Mr Prosper

or in the gym in fizenna hey Mr Prosper you ever you ever followed uh this

you ever you ever followed uh this YouTuber or that and I'm like what are

YouTuber or that and I'm like what are you talking about YouTube those YouTube

you talking about YouTube those YouTube people are crazy I would say I would I

people are crazy I would say I would I would put I would put a stigma on it

would put I would put a stigma on it right and I didn't I didn't really know

right and I didn't I didn't really know like how beneficial

like how beneficial um this YouTube world is this channel

um this YouTube world is this channel world is

world is um and if you're using it for the right

um and if you're using it for the right reasons I'm sure I'm sure there's a lot

reasons I'm sure I'm sure there's a lot of net I'm sure there's a lot of

of net I'm sure there's a lot of negatives to it too but um I think I

negatives to it too but um I think I think I do uh really want to try to

think I do uh really want to try to pursue it

pursue it um

um to for uh for everybody in the world

to for uh for everybody in the world like if I can be if I can be that small

like if I can be if I can be that small little piece for somebody in their life

little piece for somebody in their life um

um like giddy up let's go I'll you know

like giddy up let's go I'll you know you know hopefully they it it hopefully

you know hopefully they it it hopefully they get blessed by you know taking

they get blessed by you know taking little 10 bits for me and you and and

little 10 bits for me and you and and everybody out there right yeah your

everybody out there right yeah your story is so powerful your voice is so

story is so powerful your voice is so powerful that's really cool your sons

powerful that's really cool your sons are like dad's gonna be a YouTuber yeah

are like dad's gonna be a YouTuber yeah yeah exactly

yeah exactly I never would have thought yeah well see

I never would have thought yeah well see like again my friend Bill yes most shy

like again my friend Bill yes most shy person in the world now if you go watch

person in the world now if you go watch his YouTube channel he is I don't know

his YouTube channel he is I don't know what there's this weird phenomenon I'm

what there's this weird phenomenon I'm not trying to put too much credit on

not trying to put too much credit on myself because I've done YouTube for

myself because I've done YouTube for eight years a lot of the YouTube stuff

eight years a lot of the YouTube stuff I've done in the past so I'm like oh I

I've done in the past so I'm like oh I got to get the Drone and go fly I gotta

got to get the Drone and go fly I gotta get this shot and get this shot you

get this shot and get this shot you talking with your voice is a hundred

talking with your voice is a hundred times more powerful than all of that

times more powerful than all of that stuff and it's here's proof right there

stuff and it's here's proof right there this guy Bill he was terrified to do a

this guy Bill he was terrified to do a YouTube but he wanted to help people

YouTube but he wanted to help people just like you and he wanted to share his

just like you and he wanted to share his story and he knew there were hopeless

story and he knew there were hopeless people out there he does a video once a

people out there he does a video once a week he's getting more views than I am

week he's getting more views than I am now and I was a little I was a little

now and I was a little I was a little jealous at first but I'm happy because

jealous at first but I'm happy because he's inspiring so many people and he

he's inspiring so many people and he never did YouTube before it's just it's

never did YouTube before it's just it's just him talking and his voice

just him talking and his voice um you have a much more incredible story

um you have a much more incredible story that I have honestly and I've been so

that I have honestly and I've been so fortunate this is the cool thing Jeff

fortunate this is the cool thing Jeff no pressure but if you're interested and

no pressure but if you're interested and want to do it or when you're ready to do

want to do it or when you're ready to do it these guys were talking about like Dr

it these guys were talking about like Dr Baker he would have you on his show I am

Baker he would have you on his show I am certain of it um

certain of it um Dr chafee too like I introduced you I

Dr chafee too like I introduced you I showed you your video during the live

showed you your video during the live stream to Dr chafee so

stream to Dr chafee so um

those guys are like I I don't know how you are I'm sure I'm

I don't know how you are I'm sure I'm sure you're probably similar to me uh

sure you're probably similar to me uh Carrie like when it comes to

Carrie like when it comes to uh idolizing people uh you know my whole

uh idolizing people uh you know my whole life like I idolized Michael Jordan

life like I idolized Michael Jordan uh famous soccer players like Italian

uh famous soccer players like Italian soccer players I you know like right now

soccer players I you know like right now like Chaffey Baker Barry and even you

like Chaffey Baker Barry and even you you're like you're like you're those

you're like you're like you're those people that I'm like I I will drop

people that I'm like I I will drop anything in a dime to to meet you to

anything in a dime to to meet you to talk to you you're like my Michael

talk to you you're like my Michael Jordan in my life right now so I I just

Jordan in my life right now so I I just I I would love to Anthony chafee Baker

I I would love to Anthony chafee Baker whoever it is I would I would love it

whoever it is I would I would love it it'd be it would be an absolute blessing

it'd be it would be an absolute blessing and an honor

and an honor awesome it's gonna happen let's do it

awesome it's gonna happen let's do it after we're done with this I'm gonna

after we're done with this I'm gonna message Dr chafee the other thing with

message Dr chafee the other thing with these guys Jeff yes they're I idolized

these guys Jeff yes they're I idolized them too I was so nervous the first time

them too I was so nervous the first time I talked to Dr chafee I think I've since

I talked to Dr chafee I think I've since done like four or five videos with him

done like four or five videos with him I'm so blessed to be able to do that

I'm so blessed to be able to do that they're the coolest guys they're so

they're the coolest guys they're so generous with their time I've seen Dr

generous with their time I've seen Dr Barry who has I think almost 3 million

Barry who has I think almost 3 million subscribers on YouTube like to me I'm

subscribers on YouTube like to me I'm like this guy's famous he's written

like this guy's famous he's written books and everything I've seen him go on

books and everything I've seen him go on I've seen him go on people's YouTube

I've seen him go on people's YouTube channels that have like 10 subscribers

channels that have like 10 subscribers just because he's a good guy and they

just because he's a good guy and they asked him to like they're they're so

asked him to like they're they're so they're so generous now of course some

they're so generous now of course some of them are busy and it takes a little

of them are busy and it takes a little while to get on their on their channels

while to get on their on their channels and stuff but

and stuff but um Dr Baker I'm sure would love to have

um Dr Baker I'm sure would love to have you on I'm sure Dr chafee would as well

you on I'm sure Dr chafee would as well the other thing that's cool for you on

the other thing that's cool for you on the YouTube side is

the YouTube side is if you do chemo or something you're a

if you do chemo or something you're a little worn down but then you're feeling

little worn down but then you're feeling better you can just pick up the camera

better you can just pick up the camera do the video it doesn't have to be live

do the video it doesn't have to be live record it whenever you get some

record it whenever you get some motivation or inspiration and then just

motivation or inspiration and then just load it up later uh but if you if you're

load it up later uh but if you if you're interested in doing it the next kind of

interested in doing it the next kind of big thing that I think would be great

big thing that I think would be great for you is doing like a live stream uh

for you is doing like a live stream uh because I'm sure I'm gonna post this

because I'm sure I'm gonna post this people are gonna love this video You're

people are gonna love this video You're So inspirational uh but then they're

So inspirational uh but then they're gonna say Carrie why didn't you ask Jeff

gonna say Carrie why didn't you ask Jeff this or this or this and so the live

this or this or this and so the live streams are cool for that because you'll

streams are cool for that because you'll just get questions flowing in on the

just get questions flowing in on the side there so all right I could do that

side there so all right I could do that I would love to do that live stream

I would love to do that live stream would be great

would be great open invitation any anytime you want you

open invitation any anytime you want you just say the word and we'll we'll set it

just say the word and we'll we'll set it up for sure okay and I've got a whole uh

up for sure okay and I've got a whole uh Network I'm people helping me on the

Network I'm people helping me on the carnivore diet documentary

carnivore diet documentary um it's a whole bunch of volunteers and

um it's a whole bunch of volunteers and almost every one of them has a YouTube

almost every one of them has a YouTube channel so I'll post on there later too

channel so I'll post on there later too and say I just I'm interviewed my new

and say I just I'm interviewed my new best friend Jeff he's awesome he's open

best friend Jeff he's awesome he's open if you guys want uh to reach out to him

if you guys want uh to reach out to him I'll definitely connect you with them

I'll definitely connect you with them too but we gotta get you on we got to

too but we gotta get you on we got to get you on Dr Baker Dr chafee first I'll

get you on Dr Baker Dr chafee first I'll talk to those guys in that'd be awesome

talk to those guys in that'd be awesome yeah

yeah yeah so man it's just time just flew by

yeah so man it's just time just flew by I I would love to I'd love to talk some

I I would love to I'd love to talk some more in the future but for right now

more in the future but for right now everyone who's watching check out uh

everyone who's watching check out uh Jeff's Channel blessings on my journey

Jeff's Channel blessings on my journey could you just one last question if you

could you just one last question if you could blessings on my journey how did

could blessings on my journey how did you come up with that name can you tell

you come up with that name can you tell us a little bit about that yeah good

us a little bit about that yeah good good question

good question um

I've been think trying to think of a name if I did something like this

name if I did something like this um and by the way like my sister who's

um and by the way like my sister who's also a teacher she's Elementary School

also a teacher she's Elementary School teacher uh my friend Dwight uh Ronnie

teacher uh my friend Dwight uh Ronnie who wrote up who wrote the book Miracle

who wrote up who wrote the book Miracle my Miracle Journey they all been telling

my Miracle Journey they all been telling me Jeff you got to start journaling and

me Jeff you got to start journaling and uh and doing and doing something and and

uh and doing and doing something and and so you could tell your story someday

so you could tell your story someday write a book maybe but here's a joke a

write a book maybe but here's a joke a little bit I'm a high school phys ed

little bit I'm a high school phys ed teacher I'm not really big on reading

teacher I'm not really big on reading and writing I became a gym teacher for

and writing I became a gym teacher for that reason so I I do feel comfortable

that reason so I I do feel comfortable with talking so YouTube is the way I'm

with talking so YouTube is the way I'm deciding to to me in essence this is my

deciding to to me in essence this is my this will be my my uh

this will be my my uh my journal and

my journal and every single thing I come across

every single thing I come across the last year and a half I try not to

the last year and a half I try not to take it as negative and I try to take it

take it as negative and I try to take it as a blessing like everything like every

as a blessing like everything like every like like me being it sucks that I'm off

like like me being it sucks that I'm off work right now because I I love my job

work right now because I I love my job but it's a blessing because it's a

but it's a blessing because it's a blessing that I get to spend more time

blessing that I get to spend more time with my sons my wife my sister my close

with my sons my wife my sister my close friends like my buddy Dwight

friends like my buddy Dwight everything's a bless like yesterday I

everything's a bless like yesterday I hung out with Dwight all day like in the

hung out with Dwight all day like in the middle of the day I wouldn't be able to

middle of the day I wouldn't be able to do that normally right

do that normally right um so every single I do every single

um so every single I do every single thing I do day to day and that's the

thing I do day to day and that's the thing when you're going through

thing when you're going through something uh like I'm going through and

something uh like I'm going through and whatever anybody has any type of disease

whatever anybody has any type of disease you gotta you gotta count your blessings

you gotta you gotta count your blessings and uh you know so that's that's my

and uh you know so that's that's my philosophy now in life is to treat

philosophy now in life is to treat everything as a blessing as much as

everything as a blessing as much as possible and that's not easy to do I

possible and that's not easy to do I know in the world we live in

know in the world we live in um there can be a lot of negativity but

um there can be a lot of negativity but try try your best to only bring the

try try your best to only bring the blessings in is what that's so that's

blessings in is what that's so that's why I named it that

why I named it that love that man that's a great way to to

love that man that's a great way to to end it too

end it too absolutely thank you so much Jeff I

absolutely thank you so much Jeff I really appreciate you being brave and

really appreciate you being brave and sharing your story with everyone and uh

sharing your story with everyone and uh yeah I can't wait to can't wait to talk

yeah I can't wait to can't wait to talk to you more

to you more I can't wait to I can't wait to hang out

I can't wait to I can't wait to hang out with you more Carrie thank you thank you

with you more Carrie thank you thank you very much thank you thank you all right

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