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harness and sustain the energy that
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and sees to it that we are made of the
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Somebody who makes sure that we are
Somebody who encourages us to keep
learning so we can create more magic.
And somebody who tests us so that what
we do is always done right.
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We strive to make the world a better and
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and very good morning. Welcome to the
webinar of the engineers and society
lecture series in support of the board
Malaysia BM strategic plan the
engineering aggression council EAC and
the engineering technology aggression
council ETSC formed the working group on
national undergraduate engineering talent.
talent.
This working group focuses on the
developments of future ready undergrad
engineers through such programs that
promotes leadership, innovation, ethics
and professional engagement.
The group will spare structure
initiative to develop leadership
competencies, enhance professional
exposure and embed the core values of
the engineering profession.
>> The initiative under industry talk on
the engineering society industry
advisory panel research mechanism and
innovation competition involving fun
project and integrated design project.
Ladies and gentlemen, let us start our
webinar today. On each of the slides
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one engineering carrier will be
presented today by data engineer Dr.
Adraim Hashim.
Data engineer Dr. Darim Hashim is a
distinguished Malaysian engineer and
senior leader with over 40 years of
experience across the global energy
sector, high education and national
science and technology policy. He is a
fellow of the academic of science
Malaysia and honorary presidents of the
international gas union. He pres
previously served as vice chancellor of
the University of Malaya and vice
chancellor or CEO of university
technology Petronas following a long and
accomplished career in Petronas where he
held key vice presidential roles in gas
business research and technology and
human resource management. He also led
major refining and LG ventures as CEO or
managing director. Dr. Rahim has served
on numerous corporates and national
boards including Petronas chemical
group, Petronas Gas, Gas Malaysia,
Serim, the IG Commission and Dian Bhad.
He remains active as an independent
director of MIT and senior member of the
board Malaysia. A sought after speaker,
he regularly share insights on energy
transition, sustainability, innovation,
digital transformation, and engineering
leadership at global and national
and a very good morning everyone. Uh it
is a a privilege uh for me this morning
to speak uh to the next generation of
engineers and today I'd like uh to help
you to see the bigger picture not just
your degree but uh the opportunities the
pathways and responsibilities that come
with this profession. Now, engineering
is a foundation that will give you the
ability to solve problems, introduce new
ideas, and make a lasting contribution
to society. Uh, next slide, please.
Now, you are actually a part of the
Malaysia National Engineering Talent
Pipeline. Yeah. And um the country
requires um a very very strong uh
competent and ethical engineers to
support uh not just the digital economy
but also the transition energy
transition advanced manufacturing
sustainability and also national
innovation. Yeah. And you are not just
students per se you are actually the
future contributors to Malaysia's global
competitiveness. Yeah. Now the
engineering world has really changed.
Careers uh today are very very broad,
more flexible and more interdisciplinary.
interdisciplinary.
Now my aim today is to give you a
clearer understanding of how your
engineering career can evolve, what
pathway lies ahead and how you can
prepare yourself effectively. Um uh next
uh now as far as u uh engineering um
disciplines are concerned now this
particular visual illustrates the
so-called diversity of engineering
environments. Yeah. Um in terms of um
you have the various uh um record
disciplines. Now mechanical engineers
may actually focus on energy
manufacturing and aerospace. The
chemical engineers can contribute to
process industries, materials and
biotechnology. Electrical engineers in
power systems. Yeah. In semiconductors
and electronics especially so now and of
course the civil engineers uh help to
build and maintain infrastructures.
Yeah. And uh this question is in terms
of your discipline will give you the
tools but your curiosity and
adaptability will determine whether you
where you eventually will go. Yeah. Next
uh slide please.
Now the uh pathways here as one of the
uh areas that you can actually uh go to
the engineering is is in fact no longer
a single straight path. You can actually
go into the public sector which is
government agencies the um the so-cal
um government uh departments and so on
so forth and also you can go into the
so-called the private sector. Yeah. Now
this ecosystem is that uh you can go
into the academia and also into R&D at
the same time. So his question is that
where is that where does your passion
lies as far as your career is concerned
or your chosen career is concerned.
Right. Next slide please.
Now I think what the other area perhaps
I think more of a concern is that the
Malaysia's engineering based startup
ecosystem is actually growing. Now
engineers today are leading innovations
in drones. Yeah. In robotics and AI
based platform as well as medical
technology and agriculture technology
and smart city solution. So you actually
no longer need to join companies per se.
Uh I think what you can do is then you
can create your own as well. Yeah,
that's that's a message here. Now next
uh slide please. I think what's what's
important here as far as internship is
concerned is not just a mere
requirements of uh your academic um uh
life but they are actually the starting
block of your engineering journey. Yeah.
choose their placements right that
expose you to real engineering
challenges. Uh volunteer for some more
difficult assignments and learn from the
senior engineers. Now these experiences
will definitely shape your where the
industry your your your passion lies and
also in terms of deterine determining
where your first jobs are. So make sure
that you you you understand as far as
this landscape is is is concerned. Next
slide please.
Now the engineering career letter
typically progresses um a graduate
engineer from uh after you have left uh
university to an engineer and then
perhaps move on to senior engineer
principal engineer and subsequently to
managerial and more senior leaderships
and technical authority roles. So the
advancement is that your your your
progress really depends in terms of your
competence, your consistency and the
willingness to take on added
responsibility and of course I think
more important is that your appetite for
for learning. Yeah, I think that's
that's very very very important. Next
slide please.
Now between uh three to to seven years
uh normally um of of your career you
will start to to to build your your
foundation. Yeah. Understand the role
that you are you're playing and then
subsequently you you begin to manage
systems, manage a bigger organization. I
mean solving problems independently,
coordinating projects and mentoring
younger engineers. So that's your your
sort of the career progression. Now this
is perhaps uh I think the important area
is that where you you consolidate yeah
your uh career in this particular
part uh of of your growth and this is
where your reputation as an engineer
really being established. Yeah. And as
you move forward then you go into the
the leadership role. Yeah. Next uh slide please.
please.
Now I I I cannot overemphasize as far as
this this these areas concerned. Now you
can actually be uh going into various um
areas. Yeah. You can be a technical
expert. This is where your depth your
technical authority can be established
or you can actually go into uh into
consulting. Yeah. Providing expert
advice to improve project outcomes and
and even drive innovation for that
matter. Yeah. But also some people would
not like to to become a technical expert
but will go into sort of um the uh
senior management role. Yeah. Becoming
uh chief technology officer and
subsequently become CEOs of of the
organization. So so you have actually
multiple roles but these are the so-cal
advanced role in your career. Next slide please.
please.
Now as far as lifelong learning is
concerned, this is uh something which um
you will definitely have to be on guard
all the time. Yeah. Uh in terms of uh
your your career is not just the
technical aspects as well but I think
it's more important is uh the uh the
consideration as far as for
sustainability is concerned and also
your contribution to society as a whole.
maybe uh the the role that you play you
can actually um contribute as far as uh
CSR is concerned this is corporate
social responsibility and initiative um
volunteering some some initiative in the
in the society in your area that you are
working and of course synergizing the
engineering uh capability and the
so-called societ social responsibility
at the same time. Yeah. Okay. Move on.
Um I cannot overemphasize as far as uh
lifelong learning is concerned because
this is an area where
technology moves quite fast. Yeah. They
you actually they're moving much perap
faster than than we can think of and you
need somehow to make sure they are at
the um at the level where the
technologies are. I think some of this
uh information includes um automation,
digitalization. Of course, everybody
talks about AI now. So you definitely
have to somehow rather get in touch with
all this and how can it actually help
you in your own work areas but at the
same time is that how can it actually
help uh you as far as uh complementing
the uh skills or the expertise that that
you have. Yeah. to areas like uh I
mentioned about uh AI but digital twins,
automation, simulation tools, data
analytics and so on so forth. These are
making sure that you stay relevant and
you must somehow rather continuously
upscale and adapt to this so-called
technology advancements.
Next slide please.
Um as far as the um engineering um
engineers act is is concerned that is I
think part and parcel of uh our role
here is to make sure that if you are a
professional engineer now continuing
professional development or CPD is now
mandatory. Yeah. Uh this is basically to
ensure that um engineers maintain their
competence. Yeah. uphold the ethical
standards all the time and also remain
aligned with global industry um
expectations. Yeah. And it covers not
only the engineers but also covers um
also the inspector of works and the
technologies at the same time. Okay. Uh
Now this is u again uh another emphasis
on um CPD um what we we requires is that
the professional engineer must
accumulate CPD hours through structured
learnings uh and and this includes
covers industry training uh professional
courses technical seminars
certifications and academic activities.
So these are all aligned with global
professional engineering standards. So
the requirements is is not just with us
but also globally at the same time.
Okay. Next please.
Um I think what what is important here
is um knowing that the Malaysian uh
qualification under the engineering
accredititation council EAC that and
also EAC we are actually part and parcel
of the Washington accords. This is for
engineers. The Senior Accord is for uh
tech tenations. Uh so Word is for for
technicians and Sydney is for
technologies. So
your your degree is actually um valid in
about 25 countries. So the the
certification is that as the question
here is that you can work uh anywhere
internationally in countries even such
as UK, US, Australia, Korea, Japan, even
Canada for that matter. Uh provided you
built your fundamentals and your
relevant competencies uh very very
strong. Yeah. Next uh slide please.
Now you do not
you are not expected to know everything
today but I think what's what's
important is for you you should begin
reflecting on your interest what
actually drives you what industries that
excites you and what kind of work that
uh gives you a sense of purpose. Yeah.
Now all the this this so-called your
your own answers will actually guide the
pathway that you choose. So all this is
is is important to sort of step back and
says where where should I go? What
exactly that do I want to do? Well what
exactly that my passion is in this in
this particular areas. So this is
knowing your direction is is is very
important. Okay next slide please.
Now network is is is is
so so important at the end of the day.
It's not just about um who what what
qualification you have uh what expertise
you have but somehow rather the
so-called people that you know
especially your peers um people in
various industries because you are
working as part and parcel of a team. So
and also industries are now
interconnected. So it's very very
important to cultivate the connections
and you can do this through joining
professional bodies or events or even I
think more important is finding mentors
up front when you start your career. Get
some senior engineers to provide you
with um uh advice perhaps u or also a
second voice or a third voice to give
you some perhaps better direction in
terms of your uh career progression. And
remember it's all about people. Yeah.
It's not just um looking at the um the
um at the social media itself but real
connection is is very very important.
Next slide please.
And I like just to for you to remember
three things. I think uh one is is is
beginning with with an end in mind which
I talked earlier in terms of uh what are
your passion what your strengths are.
Yeah. And um where do you need to to to
sort of um uh get into as far as your
maybe whether it's is industry whether
you want to become a technical expert or
whether you want to go into management
per se and uh at all the time make sure
that uh you embrace every opportunity
that you get. Yeah. For for you to gain
the necessary experience. Make sure that
your toolkit is is fully um developed.
You have all this so that any um
opportunity that comes along you are
able to address those uh appropriately
and and move on with your career. Yeah.
But to do that you must somehow rather
invest in yourself. Yeah. Which means
that uh make sure that uh you cultivate
your skills. Yeah. you uh attend uh
programs uh make sure that you are a
breast with technologies and also um
making sure that your your network is is
is solid so that you can always refer to
some of these people whenever that's
required. So you are just not building a
a career per se you're actually building
a life and uh I say here make sure that
that life uh counts.
Yeah. So I think the last uh slide. So
in in in closing, next slide please. Um
I just like to sort of um apart from
that three just now before I end there
are some some messages that I would like
to to make sure that you take this along
is that apart from this you build your
foundations. Make sure you really build
them because engineering is not about
memorizing formulas. It's about thinking
critically, critically, thinking clearly
solving problems and applying principle.
So if your fundamentals are strong, you
can work in any industry anywhere in the
world. And then the other one is that
invest in yourself is to stay curious
because technology will will not wait
for you. Yeah. AI, digitization, energy
transition and so on so forth. So the
world is moving very very fast and
engineers who succeed are those who
learn continuously. So be the kind of
engineer who is always upgrading always
exploring and always improving. And
lastly is that whatever you do choose
impact. It's not about titles not about
glamour. Engineering is ultimately about
improving lives building systems and
shaping the nation. So if you choose
roles that you can make real impact your
career will be very very meaningful
fulfilling and also at the same time
respected. Yeah. So if you do all these
three things I assure you yeah not only
you will find success you'll become you
will become the kind of engineer
Malaysia needs and the kind of the world
will welcome. Thank you.
>> Thank you Dr. Rahim for the insightfuls
and a very inspiring presentation. We
have a first question from the
participant. The first one, what
inspired you to pursue a career in engineering?
engineering?
>> Oh uh when I actually was a student um
or well I was quite young I was
passionate with somehow rather with uh
mechanical things. Yeah. Things that um
I will repair bicycles. I will do um a
uh class where you go into a workshop
and and you tinker tinker around with uh
tinker around with all sorts of of
things you have projects to do and so on
so forth. So that sort of uh create an
uh an initial uh interest in um areas
where perhaps u I'm perhaps good with
with with my hands and able to sort of
figure out how thing works and perhaps
you know wanting to go further into that
particular area.
Uh thank you that so next question is
what should students do if they still
unsure which engineering field suit them?
them?
Ah this is where your your I think you
have to rely on your on your strengths
as well. For example, if you want to go
into electrical engineering I mean
electrical electronics you have to be
very very strong in your maths for
example as example not doesn't mean that
other engineering disciplines are not
maths related but particularly because
you have got all sorts of theorems all
sorts of so your your pure math has to
be very very strong. You have to have an
interest in that. You have to have
interest in in science for example. I'm
not good in chemistry for example. So I
do not want to go into chemical
engineering for example. Yeah. So so is
the question is that how do you play
your strengths and what are you
interested in what your passionate for
you to determine which engineering
disciplines that you ought to go in
into. Yeah. But now there is also a
program uh at uh university technology
patronas which is is called integrated
engineering which is covers both
mechanical as well as uh some other uh
minor disciplines at the same time. So
if you are not sure you go into
integrated engineering I as as an example.
>> All right thank you. Next question. How
important is practical experience
compared to academic result?
the the the practical experience here is
it it provides you with a view in terms
of um how the real world works, right?
Uh if you get an internship uh perhaps
during your third year or your even your
final earlier part of your final year is
that it gives you a a view in terms of
uh how things work and it gives you also
a chance to help develop your other
competencies. Yeah. Your your soft
skills for example, how you interact
with people because as an engineer you
work in a team. Yeah. You work in a
team. You also uh be able to do
presentation. Yeah. Communicate with
others as well. Uh and at the same time
uh you work with with other disciplines.
So your interpersonal relationship is is
is very very important. So internship
helps develop that. If it's long enough,
you can have a specific project to do
which is something substantive you can
be proud of. So it it complements the
academic side of things. Yeah, the
academic side of it is all about theory.
But sometimes you go into the industry
and so on so forth, you may say for
example as a chemical engineer, you may
want to say that how does a what is a
check valve is? What is what do you call
a distillation column look like
internally? for example. So you have the
chance in the internship program to to
to to do that. Then it gives you a a
sort of a a better understanding of what
theory is all about, what you learn in
>> All right. Thank you. Next question.
What skills should engineering student
prioritize to stay competitive in the
future job market?
Um, of course I mentioned everyone will
come up with a degree. Yeah. So what
what what's what's the difference
between one to the next person?
Obviously um your I I mentioned about
soft skills are very very important but
also what you can actually make a
difference is that uh if you during your
own time come up with uh or attend
specific programs which is perhaps in
line with engineering program but this
is on your own uh initiative. For
example, you can take a program on AI
for example. not specific on AI. Take a
a program specific on uh if you are a uh
electrical electronics engineer on uh
interconnectivity for example. Yeah. Uh
in terms of um there are there are
various program you can go into Corsera
for example there are a lot of uh free
program there that one will sort of
enhance you. Yeah. And also not
forgetting uh you have somehow to get
into an AI program. People will say that
uh AI will will not replace people but
uh people will be replaced if they do
not have AI competencies. So I would
suggest that you must some skill up
yourself to make sure that not just job
ready but be able to also address um I
guess assignments as you come on board
>> All right. How important is networking
for car growth and how can students
start building their network early? Um
yeah, I think your networking as I
mentioned is is crucial because at the
end of the day um you get things done
through other people not just within
your own outfit but also other
industries and other peers perhaps uh
not uh yeah it could it could be your
your competitors and so forth but they
they they're important. Now you can
start that off if you are involved in
say societies for example
IM is has has got a chapter in most get
involved in that because they have got
various programs in there uh and get
involved in competitions because you are
you are linking yourself not just within
your your own uh discipline but
interdiscipline and also intra uh
universities at the same time. So that's
how you start. Yeah. and and you get uh
sort of uh connected with these people
even after you have completed your
program. Yeah. So you build that network
uh all the time and when you start
working make sure you join professional
uh organizations that's where you you do
that and I think one area perhaps I I
can suggest is that during your your
student days you volunteer to do um [clears throat]
[clears throat]
um various assignments. Yeah. and and
that's where you get connected with with
people from not just uh disciplines but
other uh programs at the same time. So
you don't want just to sort of mix
around with engineers per se or
engineering students per se but also the
the so-called um other faculties at the
same time. So volunteering is actually
very very important. you get uh again uh
sort of interconnected with the society
because at the at the end of the day you
are dealing you're trying to solve
societal issues or societal problems. So
I think that's that's important.
>> Thank you. Next question from student um
when you started your career in
engineering what challenges do most
young engineers face in their in their
early years? or early years is always
you are you are given an assignment for
example if if you for example a chemical
engineer I come from the uh oil and gas
industry um I I work in refineries for
example as a chemical engineer normally
you're giving specific assignment to do
um for example the this is quite
technical the preheat train of a fire
for example those assignments are are
very specific it's task oriented so what
I think what what you need to do is to
Make sure that you do that particular
assignment well. How do you go about
doing it? Of course, as I mentioned, you
need to have somebody, a mentor, perhaps
an senior engineer who will brief you in
terms of how to go about doing it. But I
think it's more important also because
you are working in an environment where
safety is very very crucial. Follow the
safety rules properly and so on so
forth. But at the same time,
interconnect with uh perhaps the
operators. Yeah. the technicians of uh
the plant for example. Yeah. Sometimes
people forget that uh and and make
yourself humble because you are just
about to start your career about to
start your assignments and so forth.
Yeah. Doesn't mean that you have a
degree. You are above them. Not quite.
They have got experiences. Some of them
20 30 years experience. Yeah. So they
are very very experienced. So make sure
that you get connected with them because
they can assist you in your job. Yeah.
And you you you will not know a lot of
things. Yeah. But keep learning. I think
this is very important is keep learning.
when there is a chance for example that
provides you as a chemical engineer for
example even electrical mechanical
there's a shutdown of the plant and so
the for and when they open the so-called
vessel you know all get the opportunity
to get in understand the internals of
those things and so forth so your your
opportunities are a lot just open your
eyes and make sure that you understand
your upstream your downstream of your
work so that that's how it impact your
your particular assignment and how what
the impact is in terms of once you have
done it well how can it improve the the
subsequent downstream part of of your
assignment. So holistically you must
understand the assignment that you given
to you not just just doing it for the
sake of doing it but what does it impact
and how you going about going doing it
and also at the same time the lessons
learned subsequently what do I what do I
do well what I don't do well as far
those assignments are concerned
>> all right thank you last question what
advice would you give to student about
shaping their long-term career
>> ah Sometimes you can have that sort of
vision because some some people say I do
not want to become uh a manager or I'm
not so good in terms of um uh looking
after a group of people. I just want to
focus in in my technical mastery. Yeah,
you you can actually do that. So it
determines again up front what do you
think is your passion? what do you think
is your strength and where is your
interest right let's say I want to
become a technical expert has an
engineer in this particular area right
you can actually determine up there
because subsequently you can then after
you have finished your your sort of four
five years of working you can do your
masters and then perhaps uh if you
really really uh want to go into dep you
can do your doctoral thesis and get a PhD
PhD
uh and and and move along that lines.
Yeah. But some people says that's that's
not my cup of tea. I would just like to
sort of become a a project manager who
manages u a group of people in terms of
uh coming up with um projects completion
and so forth. So you can go into the
management area and subsequently move on
uh to to head big organizations and and
perhaps uh set up your own consulting
firm in in in that manner. So I think
you you need to somehow rather talk to
people. Yeah. Talk to people in terms
and they will ask you questions in terms
of uh uh do you find this interesting?
Do you find that interesting? What
exactly? just to to find a niche in
terms of where your interests are. Yeah.
Because if you don't know your interest
then uh as the saying goes if you don't
know your your end game then any road
will lead to to to to some some
somewhere that perhaps you are not
>> Thank you Dr. Rah. Many last word before
we move on to the next module. Yeah, as
I I mentioned earlier, I think I think
what what important what's important at
the moment is to make sure that your
your your foundation is is is solid.
Yeah. Your foundation is solid and uh to
make sure that um you um continuously
learn. Yeah. And uh make an impact. At
the end of the day, it's all about
making an impact. And perhaps as you
move on your career, you you leave
Right. Thank you once again for your
valuable sharing and for addressing the
question. We will now proceed to our
next module. Module 2 practice of
engineering in Malaysia. This will be presented
presented
professor engineer Rafi Adir.
Professor Engineer Rafiad is highly
respected engineering leader, academic
and researcher. He previously served as
a founding dean of the faculty of
engineering at new seed technology
Malaysia and currently serves as council
member of the engineering action council
EAC. A distinguished scholar in
biomedical engineering has led numerous
impactful research project secure major
competitive grants and hold multiple
patents. The contribution his
contribution extend across academic
academic leadership innovation and
advancement of engineering education in
Malaysia is widely regarded as one of
the nation most influential figures in
shaping the future of the engineering
and a very good morning uh to all of you
future engineers. First of all, I would
like to say thank you so much to the
board of engineers for giving me the
opportunity to talk to our future
engineers and thank you to all of you
for joining my talk. Okay, let's
continue uh let's continue from Dr.
Rahim's presentation. So my presentation
there are six items there uh related to
engineering practice uh and then
registration of engineers act regulatory
structure overview the registration of
engineers and their processes as well as
our responsibilities. Okay, next slide.
Now uh let's start with this very
important sentence and that important
sentence is engineering practice
involves applying scientific principles
to design number one develop number two
and innovate number three solutions that
meet societal needs and enhance quality
of life. uh if you join this webinar at
the very beginning of the webinar there
is there was a montage and there was a
quote from Elon Musk and the quote was
something about engineering being the
closest thing to magic so engineers are magician
magician
engineers are magician so that is
according to Elon Musk and I want to
believe that is true the closest thing
to a magic are the things that engineer
engineers do and uh I just want to add
my own uh word regarding engineering is
that we are the professions we are the
people who develop countries.
So countries who are countries that are underdeveloped
underdeveloped
engineers will convert those
underdeveloped countries into developing
countries and then from developing
countries into developed countries. So
if Malaysia for example if we consider
Malaysia as a developing countries now
the only way for us to move forward into
a developed country we need engineers.
And then if we consider ourselves our
country as an already developed country
then we still need engineers more
engineers to go far and beyond.
So congratulations to all of you for
choosing this uh profession engineering
profession. So uh and the registration
of engineers act 1967 >> [snorts]
>> [snorts]
>> uh have all the regulations uh that are
needed by engineers. There are a few
sections there. section uh in particular
section seven and section 10.
Section seven and section 10 in
particular who defines
legally allowed who are the person
legally allowed to practice engineering
and who are the one who can use the
title engineer. Yeah, that is in section
7 and section 10 will specify the
criteria and process for graduate
engineer registration with BEM and 10 1
B 10 2 and 10D establishes the need to
move from a graduate engineer to a
professional engineer and then from a
professional engineer to a professional
engineer with practicing certificate and
there was uh there is also uh a section
on enforcement and penalties. Next slide.
slide.
Um this is an overview of the regulatory
structure. So you can see that the board
of engineers on the left uh overseas
licensing of engineers and then on the
right uh these are some of the
professional bodies uh not the governing
bodies the professional bodies. So we
have a few there like IMYET
IMM institution of mechanical engineers.
This is in the United Kingdom. Uh ILE E
Malaysia section and then you have CIB
and IET. Uh next slide.
Um okay. Uh some more information on
these professional bodies in Malaysia.
Uh as I mentioned the board of engineers
Malaysia is a regulatory body for
engineers under the REA registration of
engineers act 1967.
Uh and then you have professional bodies
like IM uh which is a voluntary
professional body supporting the
development and recognition of
engineers. Uh and then you have uh my so
in Malaysia myet also in Malaysia. uh
Malaysian Society for Engineering and
Technology uh which is a
multidisciplinary engineering society
promoting professionalism, education and
public interest in engineering and
technology. And then there is another
two or three more. Uh Imm Institute of
Materials Malaysia uh which is a
professional society and certification
body that promotes honorable practice,
professional ethics and encourages
education and skills in material
science, technology and engineering. And
you have CIBS, Chartered Institution of
Building Services Engineers uh
particularly for civil engineers. uh
Malaysia chapter which represents
building services engineers in HVAC,
electrical, lighting and related
disciplines and then there are a few
other professional bodies in the United
Kingdom. Here you have institution of
mechanical engineers. Uh I believe there
is also an institution of civil
engineers in the UK and another one is
the IET the institution of engineering
and technology. This is al also uh a
United Kingdom uh institution uh of four
professional uh bodies. Next slide.
Right. Let's look at the engineering
registration and practice in Malaysia.
There are five floors there. Five floors
there. We will start with the ground
floor or the first floor. And the first
floor is to obtain an accredited
engineering degree. Uh so you are now
joining institution of higher learning
uh for an engineering degree. So the
first step the first floor that you need
to achieve is to obtain an accredited
engineering degree. Uh once you obtain
an accredited engineering degree you are
now officially a graduate engineer. Of
course you need to register with the
board. Yeah. Once you graduate, you need
to register with the board of engineers
Malaysia as a graduate engineer. Yeah.
And then you can uh put the suffix uh uh
after your name as grad graduate
engineer by the board of engineers
Malaysia. And then uh then you can get
uh get your three years experience.
After you achieve the three-year
experience, you can apply uh for a
professional status. So the second
floor, the second floor is after 3
years. So make sure that you register
with the board immediately after you
graduate so that all your working
experiences will be counted as your
practical training. Yeah. So your
practical training will only be counted
after you registered with the board as a
graduate engineer.
Then after 3 years uh you can submit uh
uh the form to apply for a professional
engineer status. Uh then it means that
you need to pass the examination the
professional assessment examination. Uh
that is going to be level three and then
once you pass the PAE the professional
assessment examination you can register
yourself as a professional engineer PE.
Yeah, PE. Uh that one uh once you once
you get your PE, you will be given a
stem uh a triangle stem as a
professional engineer. So it will be
Muhammad Rafi, professional engineer in
mechanical engineering. Yeah. And then
uh after your PE there is one final step
the highest floor which is PEPC
professional engineers with practicing
certificate which means that now you can
use your professional engineer status to
sign forms. Yeah as a consultant okay so
that is the highest flaw. Next
uh right I think this is similar to what
I've just mentioned in the previous
slide. So there are three categories of
engineers. Uh the first one is graduate
engineers. So make sure that you work
hard, study smart and get your
certificate in engineering. Uh once you
completed your degree in engineering,
register with the board of engineers in
order to get the graduate engineer
status the grad.ng.graden.
Yeah. And then after that uh once you
received your certificate as a graduate
engineer you can start your practical
experience. Yeah. Uh practical
experience will only be counted after
you receive your certificate as a
graduate engineer. And then once you
achieve the three years once you
completed your three-ear practical
experience you can apply for a
professional engineer status. That is
the second category. And the highest
category is the BEPC uh where you can
now work as uh as a consultant. Yeah.
Okay. Next.
Right. From this uh slide onwards uh
these are the registration process uh
the for the three status for the three
categories of engineers. The first one
is graduate engineer. So who should
register? Fresh graduates with an
accredited engineering degree. Uh so
please ensure that the institution of
higher learning where you completed your
study where you are studying now is an
accredited engineering program. Yeah.
Because uh you will only receive this
graduate engineer status uh if you
graduated from an accredited engineering
degree. Okay. Washington accord
recognized. Uh the registration process
is online as usual and you need to
provide all these four items simple
items the degree scroll uh your IC
passport size photo and a 50 ringgit
registration fee. Once approved you will
be recognized as a gradang GE graduate
engineer and then uh next. Okay.
Uh this is a BM graduate assessment
program. Uh what what this is is
basically if uh the type of program that
you currently enroll in is a local MQA
accredited three-year Bhen threeyear BH
or a three-year BH accredited by
engineering council. If you graduated
from the United Kingdom, most likely the
degree uh is a threeyear degree
engineering degree or an EEED first
cycle degrees and then uh you must uh
you must attend uh this BEM graduate
assessment program. Yeah. as well as if
your 4-year engineering degree was not
uh from uh an Washington accord signature
assessment program in order to be
registered. Yeah. Uh because previously
um the the three-year uh local
engineering program is not recognized is
not recognized. So in order to be
recognized uh you need to uh have an additional
additional
um studies additional engineering
studies uh to be completed and then only
you can register as a graduate engineer. Next
Next
uh this is engineering technologist. Um
so engineering technologist uh is uh is
not a full engineering program,
engineering degree program but you can
uh still uh register uh as an
engineering technologist. Uh if you have
a uh once you have an academic
qualification of an engineering
technology degree, provide that
certificate with your IC uh passport
size photograph and payment and then you
can register as an engineering technologist.
technologist.
Engineering technologist which later you
can become a graduate engineer. Yeah. So
if any of you following this webinar is
currently attending an engineering
technologist program, you can register
as a graduate engineer later on. Yeah.
So so not immediately but later on.
Yeah. because you need to provide you
need to meet the academic qualification
requirements under the REA under the
registration of engineers act section
101 in the previous in the very
beginning of the of my presentation. So
the these are the requirements that need
to be fulfilled uh if you are if you are
graduating from an engineering
technology program. Next
uh again uh same uh conversion of
engineering technologies to graduate
engineer. Uh so if you if you are
attending an engineering technologies
program, fear not you can still uh
register with the board as a graduate
engineer once once you fulfill the the
requirements. Okay. So further learning
uh via a master's degree for registered
uh engineering technologist shall cease
and be replaced by BM gap. So board of
engineers will no longer accept uh
master's degree. You must attend the BEM
graduate assessment program starting
from January 2023. So about 23 24 about
3 years ago. Yeah, about 3 years ago we
have uh decided uh that if you want to
convert from an engineering technologist
to graduate engineer or from a nonacredited
nonacredited
program, you must attend the BEM
graduate assessment program. Okay. Uh
and it says there uh uh
you must register in the same branch as
the engineering technologies degree
credit transfer up to 30%. If you
attended a three-year program, if you
attended a 4-year nonacredited program,
then you must take the BM graduate
assessment program. The difference would
be that the credit transfer will be four
sorry 50%. Yeah. So it's a uh if it was
a 4-year program then 50% credit
transfer 3-year program only 30%
credit transfer. Okay. Next.
Ah this is another registration process
but for a professional engineer. So who
should register?
uh someone who has already registered as
a graduate engineer and already
fulfilled the threeyear practical experience
experience
can apply for a professional engineer
status and uh you must have a design and
site work uh for 12 months if you are
graduating from a civil engineering
program and must be supervised by a
registered PE in the same discipline.
Uh and you need to prepare and submit
the application form, training and
experience report, competency report and
log book and sit for the PAE for the
professional assessment examination
which includes a 15minute project
presentation and an interview with a
written exam on code of professional conduct.
conduct.
Upon passing uh this PAE, this
professional assessment examination uh
you will be given the suffix IR. So you
can now use IR before your name. And and
this is tier one, professional engineer
tier one. Next.
And then this is PE tier 2 which is
professional engineer with practicing
certificate. Who should register? a
professional engineer who wish to sign,
submit and certify engineering plans and
drawings. So this is a higher standard.
So in order for you to approve uh or to
prepare a plan and approve a certain
plan, a certain drawing, you need tier 2
PE. Tier one PE cannot do the signature submitting or certify any engineering
submitting or certify any engineering plans or drawing.
plans or drawing. Yeah. So you need to be a PEPC to do
Yeah. So you need to be a PEPC to do that. Professional engineers with
that. Professional engineers with practicing certificate. How to qualify?
practicing certificate. How to qualify? You must already be a PE and sit for and
You must already be a PE and sit for and pass the PCE. So this is another
pass the PCE. So this is another examination. The professional competency
examination. The professional competency examination which focus on higher
examination which focus on higher responsibility and public safety. Then
responsibility and public safety. Then when you pass this PCE professional
when you pass this PCE professional competency examination, you can sign,
competency examination, you can sign, submit and certify any engineering plans
submit and certify any engineering plans and drawings related to your discipline.
and drawings related to your discipline. Next slide.
Next slide. Okay, this is uh my last slide. There
Okay, this is uh my last slide. There are six items to this slide. Uh I would
are six items to this slide. Uh I would say that these are important items.
say that these are important items. Important items. Engineers
Important items. Engineers responsibilities. Now um the the key
responsibilities. Now um the the key word there is uphold public safety,
word there is uphold public safety, maintain professional competence, adhere
maintain professional competence, adhere to ethical standards. Next slide. Let's
to ethical standards. Next slide. Let's go through all the six. Comply with laws
go through all the six. Comply with laws and regulations, maintain professional
and regulations, maintain professional competence, supervise and mentor. So all
competence, supervise and mentor. So all these six must already be in your head.
these six must already be in your head. Yeah. When you start your engineering
Yeah. When you start your engineering degree. Now the reason being that uh
degree. Now the reason being that uh when you attend
when you attend uh your studies in engineering we
uh your studies in engineering we actually give you the capabilities
actually give you the capabilities to create magics to create wonders.
to create magics to create wonders. Yeah. We basically give you the tools
Yeah. We basically give you the tools for you to develop a country. Yeah.
for you to develop a country. Yeah. Don't misuse them. Yeah. By following
Don't misuse them. Yeah. By following these responsibilities, these six items,
these responsibilities, these six items, we have to ensure that engineers don't
we have to ensure that engineers don't behave unnecessarily
behave unnecessarily because the knowledge that you will
because the knowledge that you will acquire within the four years of your
acquire within the four years of your studies in engineering will allow you to
studies in engineering will allow you to do magics. Yeah. To develop certain
do magics. Yeah. To develop certain things, to create new wonders, you know.
things, to create new wonders, you know. So we don't want you to misuse the
So we don't want you to misuse the knowledge that are given to you in the
knowledge that are given to you in the four years engineering degree program to
four years engineering degree program to do something that you are not supposed
do something that you are not supposed to.
to. Okay. So th those are the six items.
Okay. So th those are the six items. Yeah. Uphold public safety, maintain
Yeah. Uphold public safety, maintain professional conducts, uh competence and
professional conducts, uh competence and adhere to ethical standards and so on.
adhere to ethical standards and so on. So uh that's all my presentation. Again,
So uh that's all my presentation. Again, thank you again for listening to my
thank you again for listening to my talk. Thank you profit for the
talk. Thank you profit for the comprehensive and informative uh
comprehensive and informative uh session. We'll go straight to the
session. We'll go straight to the question. The first question is why is
question. The first question is why is it important for engineers to be
it important for engineers to be officially recognized or registered?
officially recognized or registered? >> Um because we don't want any Tom, Dick
>> Um because we don't want any Tom, Dick and Harry uh to do this engineering job.
and Harry uh to do this engineering job. uh because um there are you can
uh because um there are you can you can actually do something even
you can actually do something even without uh attending to an engineering
without uh attending to an engineering course engineering program in a
course engineering program in a institution of higher learning. Uh
institution of higher learning. Uh [snorts] so it is very important for you
[snorts] so it is very important for you uh to be accredit to join an accredited
uh to be accredit to join an accredited program because it has a complete
program because it has a complete package. a complete package not just the
package. a complete package not just the knowledge on how to do things but why
knowledge on how to do things but why you have to do it and how to do it
you have to do it and how to do it properly. Yeah. So that's why you need
properly. Yeah. So that's why you need to have uh uh first of all attend uh a
to have uh uh first of all attend uh a degree that is accredited and then once
degree that is accredited and then once you are accredited as a graduate
you are accredited as a graduate engineer then you can start practice
engineer then you can start practice uh and then apply for a PE. So the board
uh and then apply for a PE. So the board of engineers actually look after the
of engineers actually look after the profession itself. Yeah. We don't want
profession itself. Yeah. We don't want uh something bad to happen because with
uh something bad to happen because with the knowledge that you have from the
the knowledge that you have from the degree in engineering you can do a lot
degree in engineering you can do a lot of stuff and and damage people as well.
of stuff and and damage people as well. Yeah. So, so there are good things about
Yeah. So, so there are good things about engineering and there are also not
engineering and there are also not things that things that are not that
things that things that are not that good that engineers can do with the
good that engineers can do with the knowledge that they have. So, attending
knowledge that they have. So, attending an accredited degree means that you have
an accredited degree means that you have uh the knowledge not just the technical
uh the knowledge not just the technical knowledge but all the other knowledge
knowledge but all the other knowledge necessary for you to become a
necessary for you to become a responsible engineer. So that that's my
responsible engineer. So that that's my answer.
answer. >> Okay. What kind of responsibility do
>> Okay. What kind of responsibility do engineers typically have in Malaysia?
engineers typically have in Malaysia? >> Okay, responsibilities actually to to
>> Okay, responsibilities actually to to advance and to help the society. Uh my
advance and to help the society. Uh my discipline in particular is biomedical
discipline in particular is biomedical engineering. So uh I can give you an
engineering. So uh I can give you an example directly uh related to
example directly uh related to biomedical engineering. Um when we talk
biomedical engineering. Um when we talk about biomedical engineering, we develop
about biomedical engineering, we develop devices to assist patients. Yeah. Uh so
devices to assist patients. Yeah. Uh so basically we assist medical doctors. We
basically we assist medical doctors. We get inputs from medical doctors and we
get inputs from medical doctors and we design uh devices that can help medical
design uh devices that can help medical doctors to assist their patients. Yeah.
doctors to assist their patients. Yeah. Uh so that that is the kind of
Uh so that that is the kind of responsibility. I mean it is a huge
responsibility. I mean it is a huge responsibility because there is a lot of
responsibility because there is a lot of stuff that are
stuff that are not readily available to medical
not readily available to medical doctors. Yeah. They have the certificate
doctors. Yeah. They have the certificate to do surgery for example they know
to do surgery for example they know anatomy and physiology but as far as
anatomy and physiology but as far as developing devices are concerned they
developing devices are concerned they know nothing of so that's why they need
know nothing of so that's why they need engineers so in particular biomedical
engineers so in particular biomedical engineer uh I mean a biomedical engineer
engineer uh I mean a biomedical engineer would understand what medical uh doctors
would understand what medical uh doctors are saying uh so we can get some input
are saying uh so we can get some input from medical doctors and we need to
from medical doctors and we need to somehow deise uh develop
somehow deise uh develop uh tools uh so that the medical doctors
uh tools uh so that the medical doctors can actually use on their patients or
can actually use on their patients or develop tools that can be used directly
develop tools that can be used directly on patients of course with the super
on patients of course with the super supervision from medical doctors. Uh so
supervision from medical doctors. Uh so the these are the kind of uh
the these are the kind of uh responsibilities um uh for for an
responsibilities um uh for for an engineer.
engineer. >> Next question. What are the biggest
>> Next question. What are the biggest barriers engineers face in implementing
barriers engineers face in implementing green technologies at scale and how they
green technologies at scale and how they overcome?
overcome? Green technologies at scale.
Green technologies at scale. >> Yes, green technologies. Um this is part
>> Yes, green technologies. Um this is part of SDG uh sustainable development goals
of SDG uh sustainable development goals which we also embed in our accredited
which we also embed in our accredited engineering degree program. Yeah. Uh
engineering degree program. Yeah. Uh green technology means that we need to
green technology means that we need to look after our planet. We need to look
look after our planet. We need to look after the environment and there will be
after the environment and there will be at least one specific course in your
at least one specific course in your engineering degree related to this.
engineering degree related to this. Yeah, related to the SDG, sustainable
Yeah, related to the SDG, sustainable development goals. Um, what is the
development goals. Um, what is the challenge? The question is what is the
challenge? The question is what is the challenge of implementing green
challenge of implementing green technology
technology at global scale? Uh, now when you want
at global scale? Uh, now when you want to develop something uh the thing that
to develop something uh the thing that you should be concerned of is whether
you should be concerned of is whether this will be uh damaging uh to the
this will be uh damaging uh to the environment or not. If we can actually
environment or not. If we can actually develop something uh that is also
develop something uh that is also environmentally friendly. Yeah. That
environmentally friendly. Yeah. That would be the the aim. Yeah. The aim.
would be the the aim. Yeah. The aim. Because previously we can just build
Because previously we can just build anything. You can build an engine, a
anything. You can build an engine, a car. Yeah. An engine. But the challenge
car. Yeah. An engine. But the challenge now is how do you create an engine that
now is how do you create an engine that is safer to the environment that is
is safer to the environment that is green? Yeah. uh should you convert to
green? Yeah. uh should you convert to from a from a internal combustion engine
from a from a internal combustion engine to a battery uh yeah electrical battery
to a battery uh yeah electrical battery car? Yeah, that is the kind of shift
car? Yeah, that is the kind of shift when we talk about green technology at a
when we talk about green technology at a global or a larger scale. Uh it is
global or a larger scale. Uh it is certainly a challenge because
certainly a challenge because um not all technologies that lead to
um not all technologies that lead to green environment are cheap. Not all of
green environment are cheap. Not all of them are cheap are readily available. Uh
them are cheap are readily available. Uh so getting uh the resources
so getting uh the resources uh converting them into something that
uh converting them into something that is safe to the environment uh is is
is safe to the environment uh is is still a challenge I would say.
>> Um what common misunderstanding do student have about engineering uh
student have about engineering uh practice?
practice? >> Common misunderstanding?
>> Common misunderstanding? >> H that is an interesting question. uh
>> H that is an interesting question. uh common mis and um
common mis and um I I guess the thing that I normally
I I guess the thing that I normally receive the kind of questions that I
receive the kind of questions that I normally received from uh my students uh
normally received from uh my students uh is that what is the difference between
is that what is the difference between uh an engineering uh engineer and a
uh an engineering uh engineer and a technologist
technologist uh engineer and a technician. Yeah. So,
uh engineer and a technician. Yeah. So, so these are uh things that uh perhaps
so these are uh things that uh perhaps they are not very certain of
they are not very certain of uh because they would say that uh let's
uh because they would say that uh let's say if they go to a lab for example if
say if they go to a lab for example if they ask the lecturer about the usage of
they ask the lecturer about the usage of a certain equipments uh then they say
a certain equipments uh then they say that it is better to ask a technician
that it is better to ask a technician yeah then than than a lecturer uh who
yeah then than than a lecturer uh who already has a a PhD and a professional
already has a a PhD and a professional status.
status. So in that sense they they they would
So in that sense they they they would argue that does it mean that a
argue that does it mean that a technician is better than an engineer.
technician is better than an engineer. So that is the kind of confusion or
So that is the kind of confusion or misunderstanding perhaps that uh that I
misunderstanding perhaps that uh that I receive from my students at least. And
receive from my students at least. And the thing about being an engineer is
the thing about being an engineer is that we actually design that equipment.
that we actually design that equipment. Yeah. We are the one who designs the
Yeah. We are the one who designs the equipment. I mean maybe not the
equipment. I mean maybe not the equipment that we have in the lab but we
equipment that we have in the lab but we have the capability the tools the
have the capability the tools the knowledge to design new things to
knowledge to design new things to develop new things to innovate so that's
develop new things to innovate so that's the that's the reason why the only way
the that's the reason why the only way to develop a country is to have lots and
to develop a country is to have lots and lots of engineers because engineers will
lots of engineers because engineers will utilize the knowledge that they have to
utilize the knowledge that they have to innovate to create new stuff yeah so so
innovate to create new stuff yeah so so the common misunderstanding I would say
the common misunderstanding I would say that uh they would argue that uh it is
that uh they would argue that uh it is just the same an engineer and a
just the same an engineer and a technician is the same. I guess that
technician is the same. I guess that that uh to me the the kind of questions
that uh to me the the kind of questions that I normally receive from my students
that I normally receive from my students and I would say that no that it's a two
and I would say that no that it's a two different thing you know being able to
different thing you know being able to innovate is the one who uh who is the
innovate is the one who uh who is the one capable of developing uh a country.
one capable of developing uh a country. So so it's a it's a it's a huge
So so it's a it's a it's a huge difference.
difference. >> All right. Are [clears throat] the
>> All right. Are [clears throat] the differences between working in
differences between working in government uh private companies or
