0:03 this is mouse one chapter 6 part 2 the
0:05 last one stopped a little abruptly sorry
0:06 but we were at the part where they're
0:09 hiding and the seller miss mattone was
0:11 husband came home so they had to stay
0:12 down there while he was home for
0:14 business there was rats down there and
0:18 then but then mattone was sat down it's
0:20 been three days she stopped coming it's
0:21 been three days since you brought any
0:23 food here have some candy I still had
0:25 candies I organized it to do kurta only
0:27 this we had to eat also here we had no
0:29 place to wash so Anya gots on their skin
0:31 in terrible rush I don't know what's
0:33 worse the itching or the hunger don't
0:35 scratch it's only Shh the door
0:38 I miss Matawan what comes in I'm sorry I
0:39 couldn't get down before my husband is
0:41 getting suspicious yes why I go to the
0:43 cellar so often even asked if I was
0:48 hiding Jews here he was joking but still
0:51 are you all right here there are rats
0:54 giant rats they're horrible well you'd
0:55 better be you'd be better off with the
0:57 rats than with Gustavo at least the rats
0:58 won't kill you and you know she was
1:00 right happy even in these conditions
1:02 after 10 days her husband left and she
1:05 took goes back oh it's good to be home a
1:07 Vladek it's a lot nicer than that cellar
1:09 but that didn't feel safe here it was
1:10 too many ways somebody could find us out
1:14 I wanted only to go to bed hungry so
1:15 when that came Thursday I went in the
1:17 direction to streets cars Sun to seek
1:21 out car look I had to pass where some
1:22 children were playing so he's going to
1:23 meet the smugglers to see if he can get
1:26 out and on his way there a Jew a Jew
1:29 they ran screaming home help mommy Jew
1:32 quick their mothers came outside you see
1:33 what was the mother's always we're told
1:36 be careful a jewel will catch you in a
1:37 bag and eat you so they taught their
1:41 children this is part of the propaganda
1:42 they actually have something called
1:43 blood libel
1:47 they started horrible propaganda things
1:49 in the movies and posters and there's a
1:52 book the Priory's of Zion or they would
1:53 say things like you know they would use
1:55 baby blood in their food I mean just
1:58 horrible unbelievable things but people
2:00 fear what they do not to understand and
2:03 they were swayed by the demagoguery of
2:06 Hitler he controlled with fear fear of
2:08 the other fear of somebody who doesn't
2:10 look like you boy these Jews they're
2:12 coming for you right
2:14 and people believe that it was rough
2:17 economic times and so they looked for a
2:19 scapegoat and Hitler was all too happy
2:21 to point that out some people believed
2:25 it but I brought it over to them
2:27 Heil Hitler I said if I ran away they
2:29 would see yes it is it you don't be
2:31 afraid little one said you I won't hurt you
2:31 you
2:34 hey sorry mister you know kids are Heil
2:37 Hitler so I came out from this but the
2:39 experience cost me lots of hairs when I
2:41 arrived to Kaka the two smugglers were
2:43 there sitting in the kitchen please wait
2:45 in the other room they'll see you soon
2:48 mr. Mandelbaum lonex Spiegelman
2:49 I'm the bomb before the war on the
2:51 sweetshop and you and I brought always
2:54 new pastries there he used to be a very
2:55 rich man and so stomach this is my wife
2:57 and you know my nephew Oh Abraham what
2:58 are you doing here
3:00 back when 8th let's get to Abraham was a
3:02 big member of Jewish Council we're
3:03 trying to get out of Poland to hunger
3:05 yeah onion now you're trying to arrange
3:08 that to the smugglers I proposed us how
3:10 they would do and at the border our
3:11 partners will take you through the
3:13 mountains oh very risky they spoke
3:14 Yiddish till the poles don't understand
3:17 so what do you think I know miss Coco
3:21 but I'm not sure about these two listen
3:23 I'll go first if everything is ok I'll
3:25 write back to you the others once you
3:26 talk a little longer but they're ready
3:29 to go now fine fine I agreed to Amanda
3:30 bomb to meet here again and if the
3:32 letter from Abraham came and it was good
3:34 we'll go but if I ever talked to the
3:37 plan to Anya no you're crazy it's too
3:39 dangerous but if we hear from Abraham
3:46 Apple comes to search for illegal goods
3:48 what if neighbors dentists us through
3:51 the kitchen window I'm not going what if
3:52 her husband finds out about to say even
3:54 the baby could let something slip this
3:56 war could last 4 or 5 years we don't
3:58 know where the money will run out oh
4:00 please I'm hungry we would be free to
4:02 walk at the streets again like human
4:04 beings I've always taken care of you
4:07 trust me oh I'm scared don't do it mr.
4:09 Spiegelman it's just not safe you don't
4:11 know anything about these smugglers it's
4:13 like talking to a wall
4:15 you know we won't go unless we hear
4:17 through that our friend got through
4:20 Abraham awful nightmares about your trip
4:22 please stay with me
4:25 wait where are you going now to visit
4:27 cousin and see where he's hiding if we
4:28 do go to hungry he may be better off
4:30 here with you Milosh
4:31 he helped me in suzhou that was the shoe
4:33 factory he says mule oh she's really a
4:37 fine fellow he wasn't the schemer like
4:41 his other ones Milosz was good he helped
4:43 him at the shoe factory maybe now if he
4:46 needed I could help him the janitor and
4:48 the house me low short she hid now him
4:50 in his family but oh boy what's the
4:51 situation his was worse than I could imagine
4:52 imagine
4:54 I went to the janitor by trolley I mean
4:56 oh it's just cousin yes he told me you
4:57 might come I have some company upstairs
4:59 I can't take you to me until they leave
5:02 gentlemen this is my cousin Vladek she
5:04 lies hey cuz have a drink so we talked
5:07 and they believe that I'm her cousin
5:09 we're almost automatic abbring some more
5:11 Minka oh there isn't any bah she's
5:13 hiding her vodka yeah just like she's
5:16 hiding Jews in her yard the janitor and
5:18 I froze our blood from fear if you don't
5:20 put another bottle on the table right
5:21 away we'll tell they get stopped all
5:27 about the Jews you're keeping a few
5:29 marks mean run down stone to get another
5:31 bottle from our friends hey thattaboy
5:33 fifteen minutes you came with the box
5:35 when they were happy you see your cousin
5:37 knows how to entertain guests here's to
5:37 your health
5:39 we drank and drank your midnight finally
5:42 they went home I think it's safe to go
5:45 down are you carrying food from English
5:47 now I fed them earlier this is just
5:49 trash the conditions homeless I was
5:51 living you couldn't believe I always
5:53 bring garbage so the neighbors don't get
5:55 suspicious you know your cousin's here
5:57 in each courtyard was very deep hole to
5:59 throw all the garbage in' and inside the
6:01 garbage hole here separated the tiny
6:03 space maybe five or six feet platic I'm
6:06 glad to see you you can see the not
6:09 lines of motion here but the stench he
6:11 says oh my god it looks down only for a
6:13 second suppose in there was living
6:14 miosha's wife and their three year old
6:17 boy how can you live there you must be
6:20 freezing we have no choice at least
6:22 their bunkers underground and the
6:23 decomposing garbage it gives some heat
6:26 but people know you're there I told him
6:29 my story with these poles upstairs what
6:31 can we do listen Anya and I may be going
6:33 to Hungary yeah I explained our hiding
6:35 place it's not perfect but better than
6:37 his I'll come again when I have more
6:38 news but it's very late now I must be getting
6:39 getting
6:41 oh and I was lucky nobody made me any
6:43 questions going back to CEO pants a few
6:45 days after I came again to the smugglers
6:46 and Mandelbaum was also there
6:48 look Vladek my nephew is safe they
6:51 brought me a letter from him it was in
6:53 Yiddish which was signs really by Abram
6:56 so we agreed right - way to go but Anya
7:00 just couldn't want to let go please call
7:06 it off no no it's some kind of trick be
7:07 reasonable I saw Abraham's letter with
7:11 my own eyes Oh what did it say dear aunt
7:13 and uncle everything is wonderful here I
7:16 am safely arrived I'm free and happy
7:17 don't lose a minute join me as soon as
7:19 you can your loving nephew hey bruh oh I
7:21 don't know leave the day after tomorrow
7:23 for the Katowice train station and
7:25 finally I convinced her so I went one
7:27 more time over to Milosz to his garbage
7:28 bunker and directed him he must go
7:31 Lucille Pinson hide and you know me lush
7:33 and his wife and boy they all survived
7:35 themselves the whole war sitting there
7:39 with mat ona so again stepping away head
7:43 Vladek we've all got this guilt art
7:46 certainly has a theory Oh guilt for all
7:48 kinds of stuff but Anya - remember she
7:51 had the opportunity to hide rishu and it
7:54 ended up the boy that she would have
7:57 hidden with came out safe they declined
7:58 then they did it later
8:00 Russia did not come out here's an
8:03 example where Vlad ik made a choice had
8:04 he stayed they likely would have come
8:07 out fine instead he makes this choice to
8:09 try to get smuggled and of course we all
8:12 know he's headed towards Auschwitz but
8:14 for Anya and I it was waiting a
8:15 different destiny we came with no
8:17 problem my trolley cards who meets the
8:18 meeting points with the manual bombs and
8:20 smugglers everything is arranged here
8:23 here are your tickets do you have the
8:25 rest of the payment yes of course here
8:26 where are you going
8:27 where's your partner going he's phoning
8:29 ahead to let the men know who will pick
8:31 you up at the border he'll join us on
8:32 the train don't worry
8:34 what's of course we're worried so all of
8:36 us together starts at our journey we
8:37 traveled less than an hour till we came
8:39 to be lost Kobe Allah here I used to
8:41 have my factory in here the smugglers
8:44 disappeared it was big commotion Gestapo
8:47 came on every side your ass in Katowice
8:49 it was only to them that the smuggler phoned
8:51 phoned
8:53 here they are they marched us through
8:55 the city of Velasco we passed the
8:57 factory that I once owned boy talk about
9:00 irony right we passed the markets where
9:03 always we bots to eat and past even the
9:04 streets where we used to live and we
9:07 came till the prison and there they put
9:09 us I had a small bag to travel when they
9:11 registered me they looked at everything
9:13 what's that shoe polish yeah I like to
9:14 keep myself neat with a spoon he took
9:17 out little by little all the Polish well
9:20 well a gold watch you Jews always have
9:22 gold wrapped in foil I kept it hidden
9:24 there it's what's my last treasure which
9:25 was this watch I got from father-in-law
9:27 when I first married to Anya
9:30 well never mind that they took it and
9:32 threw me with Mandelbaum into a cell
9:33 wait a minute
9:36 whatever happened Abraham who man the
9:38 bombs nephew oh yes
9:39 finish the same as us at the
9:42 concentration camp but I thought it was
9:44 with him but now I'm telling you here in
9:46 the prison here we got very little to it
9:48 maybe some soup one time a day and said
9:50 with nothing to do why don't they put us
9:52 to work with the rest of you it means
9:54 you won't be here very long every week
9:55 or so a truck takes some of the
9:57 prisoners away excuse me do any of you
9:59 know German my family just sent me a
10:01 food parcel if I write back they'll send
10:02 another but we're only allowed to read
10:04 German again something that serves
10:07 Vladek well his ability to figure things
10:08 out his quick learning quick on his feet
10:10 and his ability to speak multiple
10:13 languages I knew well to read German so
10:14 I wrote in short time he got to get in a
10:16 package hey you did a great job take
10:17 anything you want for you and your
10:19 friend it was eggs there it was
10:21 chocolates I was very lucky to get such
10:24 goodies few days later the truck came
10:26 they pushed us in I thought a hundred
10:29 hundred dollars one time in tours with
10:32 Anya one more time I was together with a
10:33 tiny here darling you have a present for you
10:33 you
10:36 eggs cake how can still things I got
10:39 writing my letter no no you keep it I'm
10:40 not hungry here at least take half for
10:42 later we came to the town of Austin
10:45 that's where all Schwarz was before the
10:48 war I sold textiles here here we came to
10:50 the concentration camp Auschwitz and
10:52 knew that from here we will not come out
10:55 to anymore we knew the stories that they
10:56 will gas us and throw us in the ovens
11:00 this was 1944 we knew everything and
11:02 here we were now if you were reading
11:05 this on the actual page
11:08 okay sorry as I was saying this is a
11:09 bleed if we were to actually hold the
11:12 comic book in her hand the white border
11:15 you see the edge doesn't exist this is
11:19 obviously a photocopy so what you
11:24 actually see is like this where the
11:27 panels above or these panels almost all
11:30 panels have the border to it but a bleed
11:33 you can see how far it extends right on
11:36 the edges there a bleed literally looks
11:37 like it's bleeding off the page there is
11:39 no panel it's almost like it was bigger
11:41 and then they cut the picture the idea
11:44 of a bleed the purpose of it is to show
11:47 a sense of timelessness Spiegelman uses
11:49 this very rarely but when he chooses to
11:52 employ it it's very effective I cannot
11:54 think of a more timeless place than also
11:56 it's a place where time just feels like
11:59 it is not moving forward that it is
12:02 stuck and that is Oscar it's like
12:05 there's so much of it you can't contain
12:06 it on the page there's so much that is
12:09 spilled off the page the story of all
12:12 sorts can not be told it is that big it
12:13 cannot be defined on a page and there's
12:16 so much it literally bleeds off the page
12:19 continuing on they go in and of course
12:21 the famous sign their work will set you
12:25 free and they knew they were at the end
12:27 oh my god yeah so it was and when they
12:29 opened the truck they pushed men to one
12:32 way women the other Anya and I went each
12:33 in a different direction and we couldn't
12:35 know if ever we'll see each other alive
12:37 again you know this is where mom's
12:39 Diaries would be specifically useful but
12:41 give me some idea what she went through
12:43 while you were apart I can tell you she
12:45 went through the same terrible and it's
12:47 getting cold why don't you go upstairs
12:48 and see if we can find her notebooks I
12:50 looked already it's just not to find
12:51 anymore well let's check in the garage
12:54 you got loads of stuff there no I'm not
12:55 fine because I remind myself what
12:57 happened these notebooks and other
13:00 really nice things of mother one time I
13:02 had very bad day and all these things I
13:05 destroyed what you can see he's so
13:07 shocked he drops a cigarette
13:09 Tania died I had to make an order with
13:11 everything these papers and too many
13:13 memories so I burned them you burn them
13:15 Chris you save tons of for us of
13:17 you put yeah it's a shame for years they
13:18 were laying
13:20 nobody even looked in did you ever read
13:21 any of them can't remember what she
13:24 wrote no I looked in but I don't
13:25 remember only I know what she said I
13:27 wish my son he grows up and will be
13:29 interested in this you you you murderer
13:31 how the hell could you do such a thing
13:33 ah so your father you young this way
13:35 even your friends you should never yell
13:38 this way but I'm telling you after the
13:39 tragedy with mother I was so depressed
13:41 then I didn't know if I'm coming or I'm
13:45 going I'm sorry look papa it's getting
13:48 late I better get going home come first
13:49 upstairs for the loofah coffee no I
13:51 better get going right away it's a
13:53 telephone to me you should visit here
13:54 more often don't be such a stranger you
13:57 bet see ya murderer
14:01 again perspective having the sons
14:03 perspective of course it is a great loss
14:06 it is a betrayal putting yourself and
14:08 Vladek shoes having these things around
14:10 you you know haven't you ever broken up
14:11 with somebody and just you want to get
14:14 rid of all trace of them I can't imagine
14:17 your partner who you you know the mother
14:19 of your children you lost a child with
14:21 that when she takes her own life you
14:24 survived Auschwitz with the kind of
14:26 emotional scars one would have and so
14:29 you could see why they might just be too
14:31 painful to have things around but
14:33 fathers and sons do not always see eye
14:35 to eye and unfortunately a lot of times
14:37 it is later in life that they make this
14:39 reconciliation and that's the part of
14:41 the story that I'm always drawn to more
14:42 as time goes on certainly in the
14:46 beginning is fantastic the gosh wits and
14:47 everything but the father and the son is
14:49 another story as well that I think is
14:51 important all right here we have the end
