0:01 have a very interesting topic for all of
0:04 you today. Uh since as mentioned by our
0:08 MC here Nadia um we are all from young
0:10 professionals from across ASEAN and
0:11 today we're going to talk about
0:14 something very interesting and very
0:16 inspiring I guess to all of you as well.
0:19 So the thing the topic will be you
0:22 voices in energy transition and how are
0:25 you as young professionals currently
0:27 contributing and projecting the future
0:30 of energy transition. So today uh
0:32 without further ado, let me welcome my
0:35 panel, fellow beautiful and handsome
0:37 speaker today. First up, let's have
0:57 All right. So boys and girls, guys and
0:59 girls, if you are interested and to know
1:01 about more about young professionals in
1:04 ASEAN, please do join us here at the uh
1:16 Okay. So, I think I've mentioned their
1:18 names, but I think I guess we need to
1:21 have a formal introduction or perhaps a
1:24 bit of a introduction of sorts to my
1:26 speakers here. So, I think we start off
1:29 with the guy next to me. I guess uh your
1:31 name and where you're from and also what
1:35 your um what's your role in in ASEAN or currently?
1:35 currently?
1:38 >> Hello. Uh okay, good morning everyone.
1:42 So my name is uh Amir Miza bin Anoa. So
1:46 uh I'm from Malaysia. Uh currently at
1:49 Ministry of Investment, Trade and Industry.
1:50 Industry.
1:53 So I'm in industrial development
1:57 division uh where our perview is uh
2:01 development of industry uh in Malaysia.
2:05 >> Thank you Ma. And next to Miraa.
2:08 >> Hello everyone. I hope you you can hear
2:11 me well. My name is Amira Bill Kiss. I'm
2:14 from uh Youth for Energy Southeast Asia.
2:16 Currently, I'm taking the role of
2:18 managing director and at the same time
2:21 I'm also serving as a advisor to the
2:24 director general of Ireina or
2:26 International Renewable Energy Agency.
2:29 So um basically my role is that I'm
2:31 doing a lot of advocacies in the rural
2:33 region but at the same time I'm also
2:35 advising it to the highest level of
2:38 assembly at Ireina. Thank you.
2:40 >> Right. Thank you so much Amir Amira. So
2:44 and last but not least um next Amira.
2:48 >> Hi Fisal. Thank you. Um hi everyone. I'm
2:51 Shana from the ASEAN Center for Energy.
2:54 Uh I come from the fossil fuel um
2:57 hydrocarbon and minerals department. Um
3:00 so very contentious contentious
3:02 department but we're actually working on
3:06 how um we are uh acknowledging that
3:09 we're still using fossil fuels in region
3:11 but trying to help member states to use
3:15 it responsibly and my work entails right
3:18 now doing uh all the methane emission
3:21 projects uh at ACE. I think that's a
3:23 good thing because we are not here to
3:26 wash. We are here to actually educate or
3:29 maybe share some of our perspective.
3:32 Okay. So I think I'll start with uh the
3:36 first question to Amira.
3:39 As young professionals in ASEAN, how do
3:42 you see your generation or maybe our
3:45 generation shaping the region's path
3:47 towards a just and inclusive energy transition?
3:49 transition?
3:51 That's actually a tough question because
3:53 I think what we need to understand first
3:57 is that um I think me and Sha is in the
4:01 same generation uh Gen Z and then some
4:04 of us probably are G alphas. We are
4:08 living in a world where information and
4:11 climate change awareness has been uh
4:14 really skyrocketed in the last few years
4:15 and I think that's also kind of like
4:18 influence how do uh our young people
4:21 perceive energy sectors. I think I would
4:23 like to share to you that there is a
4:26 certain study that actually conducted by
4:29 Azen Secretariat back in 2020 and then
4:31 at the time they are actually
4:35 calculating basically doing survey on
4:38 what is the sectors that is most
4:41 interested by young people and then
4:43 unfortunately energy sectors is actually
4:46 not even make it into the top 10.
4:48 Although our region is actually very
4:52 resourceful when it comes to um energy
4:55 resource such as of course coal, oil,
4:58 gas as well as um the one that is like
5:01 more cleaner like geothermals,
5:03 um hydropowers and so forth. So I think
5:06 um our re our era and young people
5:08 really wanted to kind of like you know
5:10 raise their voices when it comes to
5:16 wanting to be part of the energies now
5:18 in order for us to actually understand
5:20 better on how energy transitions could
5:23 actually influence our life in the next
5:25 um couple of decades.
5:27 >> All right. Thank you so much. I mean I'm
5:29 interested to know about that you know
5:31 the data that you mentioned earlier just
5:33 now. Okay. So I think the next question
5:37 will be to the gentleman here, Miraa.
5:40 The energy transition often focuses on
5:43 technology and policy.
5:45 Where do you think youth voices fit in
5:47 this equation?
5:49 >> Uh okay, thank you Fisal for the
5:53 question. So I think uh where uh the
5:57 youth fit uh in the current uh energy
6:01 ecosystem right now uh is uh to address
6:05 the grassroot behavior of our youth. So
6:08 uh as mentioned by Amira just now uh the
6:12 youth is more open uh to enter the
6:15 energy sector compared uh to the
6:18 generation before them. So uh they have
6:20 the willingness
6:24 uh to change uh their own behavior and
6:27 influence their peers around them. Uh
6:29 especially uh we can take the
6:34 opportunity maybe to uh have a session
6:38 in school or something uh in a
6:40 co-curriculum activity that involve uh the
6:42 the
6:46 practical or more interesting
6:50 uh ways uh to attract them to be
6:53 proactive in the energy sector. And
6:56 besides that I also want to uh inform
6:59 about the energy literacy. So I think
7:04 our youth right now is uh has more
7:07 sources than us. Uh so they are born in
7:12 the 5G era. So they have internet in uh
7:15 and in their own fingers. So they can
7:21 easily Google the maybe the current uh
7:23 uh natural disaster what are the cause
7:27 and how to prevent it. So they are open
7:32 more open to uh have or to increase
7:36 their energy literacy. Thank you.
7:38 >> Okay. Thank you. So um as mentioned
7:40 information is already avail readily
7:43 available now. I guess you all don't
7:47 know what does dalab means. Um I know
7:49 what dalab means. It's been quite some
7:51 time dalab is there. And also I think
7:54 right now people don't go google they go
7:57 chat gpt actually.
8:00 Yeah I see faces of people like yeah I
8:03 did my homework with GBT. It's okay.
8:05 It's okay. We use technology for our own
8:08 benefit. All right. So uh let's go to
8:12 our speaker at the end. Cha. What unique
8:15 Assean challenges or opportunities do
8:17 you see in advancing the energy
8:22 transition compared to other regions?
8:25 >> Well, for starters, um ASEAN is a region
8:29 with very very rapid uh economic and
8:31 population growth. I think we're
8:33 projected to be the fourth largest
8:37 economy just in 5 years time. Uh but you
8:40 know fueling this growth you need very
8:43 significant amount of uh energy uh
8:47 demand. Um our projection also shows
8:51 that by 2050 our energy demand will
8:55 almost triple um from this to 2022
9:00 level. So potentially reaching um 1,18
9:04 m. And I think the IEA also uh states
9:09 that uh with today's policy scenarios uh
9:13 we're we're on track to be uh in 2035 to
9:16 account for 25%
9:19 of the global energy demand. So that's
9:22 uh a quarter of what uh the energy in
9:25 the world consumes. So now the problem
9:30 is um 80% of this energy mix is still
9:34 coming from fossil fuels uh under the
9:37 BAU scenario.
9:40 And our projection also shows that even
9:43 with the most aggressive uh renewable
9:45 energy and energy intensity reduction
9:47 targets, fossil fuels will still
9:52 dominate at around 50 to 60%. So that's
9:55 uh so energ challenges is there but the
9:58 potential to transition is I would say
10:00 Assean region bigger than other regions
10:04 uh because of this as well. Um and but
10:08 progress is underway uh for ASEAN. I
10:11 think tomorrow or today we're going to
10:14 uh finally release the ASEAN renewable
10:18 energy uh long-term road map uh which is
10:21 which will be uh endorsed and adopted by
10:24 the ASEAN energy ministers. So that's
10:26 long overdue but that road map will you
10:28 know chart pathways on how ASEAN could
10:31 amplify its renewable energy. And then
10:34 we also have the ASEAN power grid which
10:37 is gaining uh momentum uh now more than
10:40 ever that enables crossber renewable
10:43 energy trade. Uh but still uh that
10:45 progress is not at a quick enough pace
10:48 uh to match the rising fossil fuels
10:50 demand. Yeah.
10:52 >> All right. Interesting. So all of you
10:56 here are I would say the brothers and
10:58 sisters here you all are part of this
11:01 equation as well. So take note. Okay. Uh
11:04 and tomorrow as well on on the renewable
11:05 energy road map. >> Yes.
11:05 >> Yes.
11:07 >> Yeah. So I think I would like to
11:08 congratulate the team as well for doing
11:10 a very good job on that as well. So
11:14 thank you so much. You come on give a
11:17 round of applause. Okay.
11:21 Okay. So I think I'll go to Miraa.
11:24 How can young professionals accelerate
11:27 innovation in areas like carbon capture,
11:30 hydrogen and power systems to meet
11:33 ASEAN's net net zero ambitions.
11:36 >> Okay, thank you Fisa for the question.
11:39 So I think this question have more
11:42 jargon than the previous one. So maybe
11:44 not all of us know what is carbon
11:48 capture, what is hydrogen and what is uh
11:51 power systems. So uh I think uh just
11:56 mentioned by my friends over there uh we
11:59 are currently actively pursuing the
12:02 Assean power grid. So I believe uh this
12:05 project uh will involve
12:10 uh all of Assean uh especially the youth
12:12 uh because we need your technical
12:16 expertise, your new ideas uh to prevent
12:19 this project to become I mean in Malay
12:22 we call project gajafut so abandoned
12:26 project. So we need new ideas uh better
12:30 than uh the previous uh similar projects
12:35 uh whatnot. So uh and then uh for the
12:38 uh carbon capture I think this is one of
12:43 the popular uh uh phrase uh right now uh
12:47 as uh including in Malaysia itself. So
12:50 uh when we heard uh the budget announcement
12:51 announcement
12:56 I think two years back uh we have uh
12:58 informed the public that uh government
13:01 is interested in pursuing the carbon
13:04 capture utilization and storage uh
13:09 project or uh initiative. So uh I think
13:12 this will also be an opportunity
13:16 uh for new ideas uh from the youth uh
13:18 how to make it uh better than other
13:20 region. Okay, thank you.
13:22 >> Okay, thank you Ma.
13:27 So next question is to Sha.
13:29 What are the key enablers or barriers
13:32 you face in contributing to
13:34 decarbonization effort in your
13:41 Maybe a bit uh brief background on the
13:44 organization that I'm representing. Uh I
13:46 come from the ASEAN Center for Energy.
13:50 So the host of the ABF. Uh anyone
13:54 familiar with uh what ACE is? No. Yeah.
13:57 So ACE is a intergovernmental
14:00 uh organization. uh we are mandated by
14:04 the 10 ASEAN energy ministers uh to
14:07 assist them in planning and implement uh
14:08 their regional energy cooperation
14:11 activities and we do this through what
14:13 we call the ASEAN plan of action for
14:16 energy cooperation or APA document for
14:20 short. So all of the ASEAN energy
14:22 cooperation activities including the
14:25 ASEAN power grid um must follow the APA
14:28 document. So it's it's like our bible uh
14:30 where we have to follow all of the
14:33 activities uh deriving from the apayak.
14:36 Um the biggest challenge I guess for
14:40 ASEAN is uh I would say uh the diversity
14:43 of the tenan member states uh not only
14:47 in terms of the diversity in their
14:51 resources but also in the sense of their
14:54 uh readiness and political willingness
14:58 to decarbonize uh in the region. Um but
15:01 I would also say that it's also an
15:03 enabler because of this diversity.
15:06 And before I jump into that um did you
15:08 know that not all of the 10 ASEAN member
15:11 states uh have uh net zero emission
15:15 goals? So uh currently not all ASEAN
15:17 member states have set their net zero
15:19 emission goals. I think that that uh
15:22 exemplifies the diversity of uh
15:23 willingness and readiness to
15:25 decarbonize. But again as I'd said it's
15:27 also an opportunity
15:31 because uh we see that the countries who
15:34 are uh more equipped to decarbonize can
15:38 act as as a lynch pin and trigger other
15:41 uh ASEAN member states who may not be
15:44 ready yet and guide them to transition
15:48 together. Uh for example uh in ASEAN we
15:51 launched the ASEAN CCS uh deployment
15:54 framework and roadmap last year and this
15:56 year we released the ASEAN maintain
15:59 management road map. But this was only
16:01 uh made possible the development and the
16:04 adoption of this was only made possible
16:06 because of a certain few member states
16:09 who strongly advocated for for these
16:11 road maps these decarbonization road
16:14 maps to be uh published and adopted. But
16:16 in turn all of the ASA member states uh
16:19 benefited uh from this because now they
16:20 have a road map even though they did not
16:23 strongly advocate it uh for for that at
16:25 at the first place. So yeah I would say
16:27 it's both a challenge and enabler this
16:29 diversity of the tanasan member states
16:32 but for the youth out there it it's also
16:35 an enabler for you because uh asan is a
16:37 very wide uh region with tanasan member
16:40 states. So your opportunity of um uh
16:43 jobs uh on energy transition jobs is
16:45 perhaps not only confined to Malaysia
16:49 but also to other um other Asia member
16:52 states as well. I think uh Amamira and I
16:54 uh did a paper last year led by Amamira
16:59 where we uh uh projected yeah that 1.3
17:02 million jobs uh re jobs the generated
17:05 because of re will be uh expected in
17:08 Assean. Yeah. Am I right? I mean 1.3 million.
17:08 million.
17:10 >> Yes, true.
17:13 >> 1.3 million jobs. There's a lot of jobs
17:15 there, ladies and gentlemen. So maybe
17:18 you can see what are the jobs available
17:19 after this on the real world energy
17:23 space. Thank you. Thank you Shaa. And
17:29 last we I mean now we have to Amira.
17:31 uh how can ASEAN
17:34 foster stronger collaboration between
17:37 industry, government and youth
17:40 innovators to track uh fasttrack
17:43 lowcarbon technologies?
17:46 >> I think what I want to ask first maybe
17:50 to all the participants here who is
17:54 familiar with renewable energy.
17:58 Okay, who is uh the question is who is
18:01 uh know about renewable energy? Okay, I
18:05 see some hands here over here. Okay, and
18:07 then the second question, who wants to
18:14 Okay, who wants to work in a fossil fuel?
18:15 fuel?
18:17 >> Oh no,
18:20 >> I think this is something that actually
18:23 um what is it? illustrate that the young
18:27 people actually willingly support and
18:29 become part of the solutions of energy
18:31 transitions accelerations because right
18:33 now I think what government think like
18:35 oh yeah everything the technologies uh
18:37 we need to think about the technologies
18:39 we need to think about the financial
18:41 things as well but sometimes forget that
18:44 the people is actually also part of that
18:48 transition meaning that our young people
18:50 needs to be upskilled and reskilled for
18:52 them to be relevant to the jobs that
18:54 they wanted to do that actually like you
18:57 know better for our world right but then
18:59 unfortunately a lot of like you know
19:02 universities a lot of like um training
19:05 are actually very much still left behind
19:07 when it comes to the technologies that
19:09 is actually um trying to be implemented
19:12 by a country. So for example for I think
19:15 most of you are Malaysian you know Netr
19:17 the National Energy Transition Road map
19:20 right those actually already listed down
19:22 some of the technologies
19:25 but do you think like right now with
19:27 your um major for example your
19:30 undergraduate or your school actually
19:33 teaches you that. So I think right now
19:36 what we can do for collaborations is
19:39 that private sectors and government
19:44 needs to also uh leverage the untapped
19:47 opportunity by engaging the young people
19:49 because they are actually the one that
19:52 going to work and implement those um
19:56 works as well in the energy transition.
19:58 >> All right there. Here you go. So I think
20:01 is I'm surprised um well because I'm
20:04 from Petronas so I'm a bit surprised as
20:06 well but yes uh do you join this um
20:10 energy transition um journey I guess.
20:12 All right. So I think the next question
20:19 Miraa.
20:21 In your experience, what's the most
20:24 practical way to balance energy
20:27 security, affordability and sustainability,
20:28 sustainability,
20:31 the energy trilmma in the region?
20:35 >> Okay. Thank you for the question. So uh
20:37 I think some of the points have been
20:41 pointed by Amira before this uh from my
20:45 experience in policy development uh
20:47 uh uh
20:49 uh
20:53 during uh the current uh era of uh
20:55 energy transition we can say uh right
20:58 now uh the most important thing is uh
21:00 the first one is prioritizing
21:04 which one uh we need to tackle.
21:07 first. So, uh in order to prioritizing
21:11 things, we need to have a complete data.
21:14 We need to have uh
21:16 we have need to to test it with the
21:21 different scenarios uh to
21:25 to know or to see what's uh the effects
21:28 uh what uh how effective uh the action
21:31 plan is. And the second point is as
21:33 mentioned by Amira we need to uh
21:36 leveraging uh what we have right now
21:40 because uh uh the question uh mentioned
21:44 about affordability. So instead of uh
21:46 doing new things, we need to look back
21:49 at our current policy uh what are the
21:53 status of that action plan and how can
21:57 we make it better or improve it. So we
22:01 don't have to develop it an entire
22:04 entirely new plans uh just to tackle the
22:07 same issue that we are currently facing.
22:09 And the third one is uh implementation
22:12 and monitoring. So I think this is one
22:17 of the current issue in any policy uh I
22:19 think in the region uh including
22:23 Malaysia. So uh we have a beautiful
22:27 document of policy. So how can we uh
22:33 implement it in order to make the target
22:36 that we have set uh can be achieved
22:39 because uh if we can see uh right now we
22:43 have an ETR and if in MIT we have uh new
22:48 industrial master plan 2030. So uh how
22:50 can we make sure that uh the
22:55 implementation and monitoring is uh
23:00 sign uh is something like that. So uh I
23:03 think three three of uh the points that
23:05 I have pointed is very important to
23:09 tackle the energy lima. Okay. Thank you.
23:12 >> All right. Thank you Ma.
23:18 So next question is to Sha.
23:21 Beyond technology, how can storytelling,
23:25 empathy and social innovation drive
23:28 behavioral change for sustainability in
23:31 Asan communities?
23:34 I I think the answer to that is pretty
23:37 simple in the sense that you need these
23:39 storytellings and dialogue, social
23:43 empathy uh in order for you to deploy
23:46 the technologies because the
23:49 technologies can be there but without
23:52 somebody advocating for the technologies
23:54 to be deployed then it will not be
23:57 deployed. Um for example is uh for
23:59 methane methane emissions because I work
24:03 on methane emissions. Um
24:06 when when the sea level for example
24:08 tries to convince the board to do
24:10 methane emission management in their oil
24:13 and gas operation and story tells it as
24:17 a climate case then their board will go
24:20 50/50 and say maybe maybe like maybe
24:23 later. But if you story tell it um in
24:26 the sense that it's a business case for
24:30 them because there is uh capturing that
24:33 meat and emission you can resell it as a
24:35 volume of gas and then you present that
24:37 as a business case to the board then the
24:40 board will most likely say yes because
24:43 there's uh added value to them and it's
24:46 cost efficient for them despite the fact
24:49 that methane emissions is a already a
24:51 very lowhanging fruit when we talk about
24:53 trying to decarbonize the oil and gas
24:55 sector because the technology is mature
24:58 and the cost is relatively very cheap
25:01 but it's that that story different of
25:05 storytelling points that will uh be uh
25:07 the the go the deal breaker for them. So
25:10 so that's one of the example of uh the
25:13 importance of having a good uh
25:16 storytelling in order for you to get the
25:18 technology going I feel.
25:22 >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you Sha. Okay. So
25:26 this is question is to
25:27 to Amira.
25:30 Amira.
25:32 What role do you think youthled
25:35 movements or networks such as Yesnet
25:40 Y4EA or other ASEAN B based initiatives
25:43 play in influencing social impact at scale.
25:44 scale.
25:47 I think what we need to understand first
25:50 is that young people actually very much
25:53 a firm believer on something that they
25:56 are passionate about and I think that's
26:00 also a strength on its own meaning that um
26:01 um
26:04 some of them I've already traveled
26:06 couple of times to several AAN member
26:09 states and I've seen so many young
26:12 people are actually doing a grassroots
26:14 initiative meaning that They are
26:17 actually invent something, innovate
26:18 something to the energy transition and
26:21 at the same time doing advocacies. They
26:24 are actually communicating things to the
26:27 communities. They even actually built a
26:29 solar panel sometimes for a community
26:32 that doesn't have electricity. Meaning
26:34 that it's something that probably wasn't
26:36 actually a priority for the government
26:38 or private sector because it's a
26:40 businessoriented, right? for young
26:44 people having more beneficials support
26:47 for a lots of people is something that
26:50 we I think very much believe in. That is
26:52 why I think right now there are a couple
26:55 of uh initiatives such as ours Y for EC
26:59 and then also a yesnet uh like Fizal is
27:02 really trying to bring out and leverage
27:04 those people that are actually doing
27:07 good things already and empower them
27:09 supporting them and then try to bring
27:13 them to be in front of the people that
27:15 are actually having the power to make
27:18 things happen because we don't have the
27:21 financial ability ilities because we are
27:23 still sometimes student I myself a
27:26 student and then um a lot of other
27:28 people's are doing it just like you know
27:30 during their free time but they are
27:32 actually doing it in a very impactful
27:35 way so empowering them supporting them
27:36 is something that they are actually
27:39 looking forward to and especially they
27:42 actually believe this one word which I
27:44 think probably at the moment are not
27:47 very familiar in the case of aan energy
27:50 sector which is intergenerational
27:54 equity because the the decisions that
27:57 are actually made today
28:00 is the one the one that are going to be
28:03 experience it either there is an action
28:07 or uh wrong choices that are made now.
28:10 It's us when you are actually working in
28:12 the sphere already when you are like you
28:15 know 10 20 years older because energy
28:18 transitions is not happen in an instant.
28:20 It happens through generations meaning
28:22 that probably it's not your generation
28:26 but even your grandchildren even. So I
28:28 think telling them that we are actually
28:30 need to have an intergenerational
28:34 collaborations is very important.
28:37 >> Thank you Amamira. And the next question
28:40 is to Miraa.
28:43 In your view, how can companies and
28:45 governments empower young professionals
28:48 to integrate sustainability into
28:50 everyday decisions, not just corporate strategy?
28:52 strategy?
28:55 >> Okay, thank you Fisel for the question.
28:59 So I think uh this question uh really
29:03 echo what we do in MITI. So uh companies
29:06 and government uh because right now in
29:09 MITI uh companies are our stakeholder.
29:14 So we will have a regular meeting or
29:18 sometimes uh by annual meeting uh with
29:21 uh big association uh such as uh the
29:24 foreign chambers and also the uh
29:26 industry association that we have in
29:29 Malaysia. So uh usually they will come
29:34 with uh their own ideas uh their own
29:36 initiative. uh they will present it to
29:40 the government and they usually will ask
29:44 for our support uh not necessarily on
29:47 about the money or in uh incentive but
29:50 maybe just uh policy support to allow
29:55 them to expand or to uh improve their
30:00 ideas or initiative. Uh so uh right now
30:02 uh especially in MIT we have the hard to
30:06 a bit sector uh such as steel, cement
30:10 and petrocham. So these three sectors
30:13 are actually working very hard uh to
30:16 help Malaysia to achieve our own uh
30:20 emission goal. Uh and then uh we at the
30:24 government uh committee uh are working
30:27 closely with Petra and Nest uh to
30:29 support them uh
30:31 in any way that they need they need
30:34 support. I think thank you.
30:36 >> All right. Thank you Mesa.
30:40 So next question is to Sha.
30:43 How can ASEAN's diverse cultures and
30:45 values be harnessed to promote
30:48 conservation and social resilience and
30:59 Um I think it's it's similar to my my
31:01 answer earlier about harnessing that
31:05 diversity itself. I mean you can
31:09 the countries who are more um equipped to
31:11 to decarbonize
31:13 decarbonize
31:17 they should also help uh those who are
31:20 left behind so that because that's also
31:24 an aspect of the just energy um
31:27 inclusive uh trans transition so that
31:30 it's the core is essentially to not
31:32 leave anyone behind and I feel that is
31:36 the key role of uh ACE to help bridge
31:40 this gap. Um to ensure that um every
31:42 every ASEN member states uh could uh
31:46 transition in in in a way that um not
31:49 only ensures sustainability but also uh
31:54 to have a secure supply of energy.
31:58 >> Thank you Amira. Sorry, Cha.
32:02 So next up we going to go to Amira.
32:04 What does future ready leadership mean
32:07 to you in the context of ASEAN's energy
32:10 transition? I think right now the young
32:13 people would agree. Do you think you
32:16 would actually support somebody that are
32:19 actually having a foresight
32:20 meaning that they are actually
32:23 understand what is going to actually
32:25 happen and change it?
32:30 No. No. some okay so the others you
32:32 think like it's better to have uh
32:34 leaders that are just understand the
32:38 current realities is it or do you think
32:41 do you want to change things
32:43 I think in my understanding and in my
32:47 experience as well future ready
32:50 leadership should have three things the
32:53 first one they need to understand the
32:56 current social realities because right
32:58 now we understand electricity is so
33:01 expensive. A lot of access to
33:03 electricity is still limited to some
33:05 areas. I believe that if you go to rural
33:07 areas, they were still waiting for the
33:09 blackout every day that is scheduled and
33:11 so forth. Right? So understand that
33:14 because if you want to actually change
33:16 into sustainabilities but then you are
33:19 actually forgetting that we are actually
33:22 having the duty to have and provide um
33:27 energy to even to the most rural areas.
33:31 I think it would diminish what future
33:34 ready leadership supposed to have in in
33:37 terms of its traits. The second is that
33:40 this person needs or this government or
33:45 entities needs to have an idea on how to
33:48 bridge the divide because I would say
33:51 right now the stigma of energy sectors
33:54 is very much maledominated and only
33:57 filled with engineer and then also you
34:00 know the discussions that oh yeah it's
34:03 very much an adult issue I think it's no
34:06 longer something that we can actually
34:10 stand for because their decision you are
34:13 the one who are going to feel uh the
34:16 most consequences. And last but not
34:18 least is like that this person need to
34:21 have a foresight in the coming years.
34:23 Meaning that not even coming years
34:26 coming decade. Okay, what should we do?
34:28 Because as I said energy transitions is
34:32 not only 10 years. So this p this person
34:34 and institution or government needs to
34:37 have that three um traits that I think
34:41 very much uh entail. And then although
34:43 sometimes like it's something that is
34:46 probably hard to be identified in our
34:49 own current government, I think we can
34:51 start with our own. That is why I think
34:53 youth for energy Southeast Asia, our
34:56 organizations is trying to nurture
35:00 leaders in energy sectors to be to have
35:02 this traits as well the from our
35:07 capacity building workshop and so forth.
35:17 If you could change one thing today to
35:19 enable more meaningful you participation
35:23 in shaping policy or strategy, what
35:26 would it be?
35:28 >> Uh thank you Fisa for the question. uh
35:31 it's a very tricky question because uh
35:33 we need to address uh many things
35:37 actually but I think uh what we can
35:40 change is the development of human
35:43 capital because just as Sha mentioned
35:46 and Amira mentioned right just now uh
35:49 there will be uh estimated of 1.3
35:55 millions of new re jobs uh so uh how can
36:00 the Asan region uh be uh we can be ready
36:04 uh for that new opportunities. Uh I
36:06 think the development of human capital
36:09 is usually being sidetracked uh in the
36:14 policy development. So uh I think uh
36:18 this is the time to change that uh to as
36:20 I mentioned before we need to prioritize
36:25 things. Uh so I think maybe we can start
36:28 to prioritize uh workforce development
36:30 uh that involve our youth in the
36:34 university and school uh right now uh to
36:37 have them ready for that future jobs uh
36:40 with uh the support of government in
36:44 term of syllabus and uh and uh and the
36:48 related uh support from the our ministry
36:50 of education and and and so on. Okay.
36:51 Thank you.
36:54 Thank you Ma. So next question will be
36:57 to Sha.
36:59 How do you envision the next decade of
37:03 ASEAN's youth involvement in achieving
37:08 net zero and social progress?
37:11 >> How do I envision? For starters, um I I
37:15 would like to see youth uh participation
37:17 and representation in policy and
37:19 decision making. not something uh that
37:24 is just symbolic but can also be perhaps
37:28 um institutionalized or or have yeah or
37:30 have set indicators and what I mean by
37:34 this is uh for example uh there's
37:38 already a growing uh progress for gender
37:41 inclusion for example in um in
37:45 conferences like this there might be set
37:48 indicators where the panelist must have
37:51 at least one female. I think that should
37:54 also be applied to youth representation
37:56 where there's an set indicator that
37:58 there needs to be one youth panelist in
38:02 in conferences or in uh policy making
38:05 situations and in projects uh for
38:08 example uh proposal making or projects
38:11 uh there there's now uh increasing
38:14 indicators that there needs to be one uh
38:17 section on gender gaps for instance. the
38:20 same could be applied to youth uh where
38:22 there's one dedicated uh section that
38:24 projects must have a youth analysis on
38:27 that. So I I'd like to see that we move
38:30 away from just having youth as something
38:32 symbolic and needs to be there but also
38:35 now more institutionalized in Asan.
38:37 >> Thank you. I think this is a very good
38:39 point actually. I think this is
38:40 something that we need to look into I
38:43 think for now. Okay. So this is the last
38:45 question but I guess this is for
38:49 everyone here. So we the question is
38:52 finally finally if you could summarize
38:56 your journey in one sentence how are you
38:58 personally contributing to the future of
39:01 energy transition so I'll start with Amira
39:04 Amira
39:06 I think
39:09 um so just probably
39:13 one word dedication because working to
39:16 for youth advocacies and empowerment it
39:19 takes a lot of um time and I mean
39:21 sometimes I work as well I'm studying as
39:24 well so it's something that is just I do
39:27 in the side but having that dedication
39:29 and a really dream team that's
39:31 supporting me when it comes to deploying
39:33 a lot of like support to the young
39:35 people I think that's very much
39:39 something that I think and describes my journey
39:41 journey
39:44 >> thank you Amamira what about you Mira
39:46 >> I think uh in one sentence that can
39:48 describe uh
39:52 my I mean my
39:55 mantra is it so I think uh let's start
39:59 now uh because I think uh
40:01 the time is very limited uh as we can
40:06 see right now uh the natural disaster uh
40:08 we have earthquake that never happened
40:11 in an area before so I think uh let's
40:14 start now is the
40:17 is the best way forward Thank you.
40:18 >> All right. Thank you, Mara. And last but
40:20 not least, Janya over there.
40:22 >> I think pushing more accountability to
40:25 the current leaders to do more on energy
40:28 transition and um hopefully to do this
40:32 strategically through the API document.
40:34 >> All right. Thank you Shaa. So that comes
40:35 to the end of our session. So thank you
40:37 so much everyone once again for being
40:40 here today. Uh we will also have another
40:45 session um this Friday with one of our
40:46 speakers from Yesnet. So I think from
40:49 now thank you so much from all of us. Um
40:51 and enjoy your day. Thank you so much.
40:54 >> Thank you so much to Fal Ma Amira and
40:55 Shana. Thank you. I think we had a very
40:57 good audience from the the students just
41:00 now. We had one from a school and also
41:02 from a university uni of KL. So I think
41:03 I'm not sure which faculty they were
41:06 from but I'm sure they they seem to be
41:08 very uh inquisitive. They were very into
41:10 the conversation. That was good. Thank
