0:08 Titans wooden hanger new trench coat
0:11 you're late no I'm not I said I'd be by
0:14 after dinner but now it's dark out I
0:16 wanted you would climb to the roof it's
0:19 a leak in the drain pipe huh but I'm no
0:21 good at fixing that kind of stuff why
0:25 don't you hire somebody ah you and Mala
0:27 you both think money grows on bushes
0:30 I'll fix it myself that's crazy you
0:33 can't climb a two-story ladder in your
0:36 condition if you want I'll pay for the
0:38 handyman never mind forget I said
0:40 anything just come sit with me I have to
0:43 Pedal otherwise I get at night a leg
0:46 cramp what you're holding a new tape
0:49 recorder writing things down is just too
0:53 hard so how much you paid only 75 bucks
0:54 it was on
0:56 sale at Corvettes you could find it for
0:58 a maximum
1:02 $35 but skip it tell me about when you
1:06 got back from the p camp in
1:08 1940 when first I came home it looked
1:11 exactly so as before I went away it was
1:13 still very luxurious the Germans
1:15 couldn't destroy everything at one
1:18 time it was 12 of us living in
1:20 father-in-law's household it was Ana and
1:24 me and our boy Reve Ana's older sister
1:26 Tasha her husband wolf and their little
1:29 girl bibe and it was Ana's grandparents
1:32 they had maybe 90 years but very alert
1:34 and of course it was my father-in-law
1:37 and my mother-in-law and also the two
1:39 kids from your uncle Herman and Aunt
1:41 Helen LC and
1:44 Lona Herman and Hela were lucky they
1:46 were visiting the New York World's Fair
1:49 when the war came this saved
1:52 them ah grandmother your stew is even
1:56 tastier than I remembered no it's not
1:58 like before the war of ladic I can't get
2:01 the foods I need each of us gets coupons
2:03 for 8 ounces of bread a day and it's a
2:05 tiny bit of margarine sugar and jam per
2:09 week that's all so how do we
2:13 manage I've donated a lot to the Gand
2:15 the Jewish Community organization and
2:17 wolf works there so we get a little
2:20 extra and there's the black market with
2:23 money you can always get anything it's
2:26 dangerous though the Nazis take you off
2:28 to a work camp for breaking any minor
2:31 law worse even if you don't break any
2:34 laws and those that are taken away
2:36 they're never seen
2:39 again well we should be happy we're all
2:42 together with enough to eat but me we
2:44 must really tighten our belts until the
2:46 war ends come let's play Ry while the
2:48 ladies clear the
2:50 table has the family been talking taking
2:54 good care of my bco textile Factory
2:57 don't you know all Jewish businesses
3:00 have been taken over by Aryan managers
3:02 I went to our Factory in LS and they
3:04 said better go home today old man
3:07 tomorrow we'll carry you out
3:10 what but it isn't any money coming in
3:12 not a single's Lotty and the family
3:14 wants to live the way it did before the
3:18 war okay vladic cut the cards but wolf
3:21 what kind of work are you doing just a
3:23 little office work for the G but a few
3:25 months ago father-in-law took all his
3:28 valuables home from the bank safe how
3:32 long can saving last don't worry so much
3:34 vadic you'll see the war will be over
3:38 like lightning yeah like lightning ah
3:41 wolf looked only to play
3:45 cards I went the next day to modra Jaa
3:48 Street where people still made money
3:50 from Secret businesses not so
3:55 legal food coupons for Reich Mars vladic
3:58 spiegelman Mr elzaki what are you doing
4:01 in swick Ozaki used to be a customer of
4:04 mine the best tailor in
4:07 cata the Nazis moved me to an apartment
4:09 here I make uniforms for their officers
4:11 and it's and Suits on the side when I
4:13 can get the cloth are you still in
4:16 business I don't know I just got back
4:19 from war prison well if you get any
4:21 cloth come see me this note will get you
4:24 past the doorman the note told that I
4:26 worked with him such a paper could be
4:27 useful to
4:30 have I went then to shop
4:32 what still owed me money from before the
4:36 war but I can't pay you a German runs my
4:39 place now I'm lucky just to have a job
4:41 then Advance me a few yards of material
4:44 without coupons okay okay hide this
4:48 under your clothes Mr ili please so I
4:50 made a nice fuse lotes the very first
4:52 week I came home I remember
4:55 father-in-law was so happy with me you
4:57 see at least there's one smart guy in
5:00 the family of course I only said I got
5:02 half what I really made otherwise they
5:04 wouldn't save
5:07 anything a little later I was again on
5:10 mandra Jaa looking to buy some textiles
5:13 without coupons the SS closed off the
5:15 whole street to inspect the working
5:18 papers from everyone I didn't know
5:20 before about this I managed to disappear
5:24 to a building but they took maybe 50% of
5:25 the people
5:28 away I talked about it to father-in-law
5:30 they almost got me I'll need more than
5:34 just IL zaki's note that's true come
5:35 we'll visit a friend of mine who owns a
5:38 tin shop I think his overseer can be
5:42 bribed and so it went okay vladic since
5:44 we make things for Germany we can get
5:47 you a priority work card remember if
5:51 there's a Roundup in here run if there's
5:53 a Roundup run in here and pretend you're
5:55 working I learned here to do things what
5:58 were useful to me when I came to owitz
6:00 owitz
6:01 and so we lived for more than a year but
6:04 always things came a little worse a
6:06 little worse father-in-law had a nice
6:09 new bedroom set the Germans looked to
6:11 grab such Furniture because in stores it
6:14 wasn't any more to get wolf and aish
6:16 left everything valuable downstairs for
6:18 a Polish neighbor to hide oof are we
6:22 leaning the other bed upstairs leaving
6:24 yeah mother-in-law is too sick she needs
6:27 a good bed Ana's mother had gallstones
6:29 the day the Germans came she lay in the bed
6:30 bed
6:31 please don't take her bed look at how
6:35 sick she is the doctor is here every
6:38 day father-in-law had an old friend who
6:41 came always over to play cards and they
6:44 left without taking anything you know I
6:46 met a German official who would pay well
6:49 for a bedroom set hidden we had no use
6:51 from the furniture so we slept it again
6:54 upstairs to sell you have excellent
6:57 taste in Furniture here zberg thank you
6:59 my men will be right back to get your
7:02 your wife's bed too you cheated us last
7:06 time Jew wait I haven't been paid yet
7:08 please if you want to stay alive go back
7:14 inside he was so unhappy after so
7:17 unhappy one time I was going to see eki
7:20 this was late in 1941 I think his house
7:23 was very near to a train station and it
7:26 was going on there something terrible I
7:28 had to pass near and they were grabbing
7:31 Jews if they had ERS or no what had I to
7:34 do will I walk slowly they will take me
7:38 will I run they can shoot me then from
7:41 far I saw IL Zaki walking so I went
7:44 Hasty over to him hello Mr spiegelman
7:46 what are you doing here don't you see
7:49 what's going on quick come upstairs with
7:51 me until the trains leave eleki lived in
7:54 a very fancy house he was the only Jew
7:57 there so I sat with him and his wife a
7:59 good few hours we heard shooting and
8:08 time eleki had a son the same age like
8:12 rief if you only could see how those
8:16 children played together listen vadic we
8:18 can't know what's going to happen to us
8:20 but we must keep our children safe I
8:23 have a good friend a pole who's willing
8:25 to hide my son until the situation gets
8:29 better I think he'd take your boy too
8:32 yes you may be right let me speak with my
8:34 my
8:36 family but I'm telling you it was
8:39 something terrible going on in our house
8:42 when I even mentioned it what have you
8:45 gone crazy how can you even think of
8:48 giving Rashi up to complete strangers
8:52 I'll never give up my baby never yeki
8:53 and his wife didn't come out from the
8:57 war but his son remained alive ours did
9:00 not and anyway anyway we had to give
9:07 later when we were in the ghetto in 1943
9:10 Tasha took all the children to wait
9:12 please Dad if you don't keep your story
9:14 chronological I'll never get it straight
9:18 tell me more about 1941 and
9:22 1942 so okay I'll make it so how you
9:26 want it 1941 at the end of 1941 the
9:28 Germans came with something new wolf ran
9:31 from the Gander look they're putting
9:35 these up all over town order all Jews of
9:37 swick must be relocated into the stara
9:41 sasu quarter by January 1st 1942
9:44 non-jews will be moved into vacated
9:47 premises all 12 of our household were
9:49 given now to live in two and a half
9:53 small rooms reward for every
9:56 unregistered Jew you find one kilo of
9:59 sugar most people got even less space
10:01 face but father-in-law and wolf had a little
10:02 little
10:05 influence but this wasn't yet a real
10:06 ghetto still you could go into other
10:09 parts of town so long you were home at
10:12 nighttime hold the ladder Ana I'm
10:14 putting up a curtain to give us some
10:17 privacy Tasha insisted on getting the
10:19 part of the room with the window it
10:22 doesn't matter vladic I'm just glad the
10:25 whole family can stay together it was no
10:28 more the luxury life we had
10:30 before for a couple months I did hear
10:33 still my black market business then came
10:36 more bad news very bad what's wrong
10:39 father they just arrested my friend naom
10:42 con and his son they've taken four Jews
10:45 away for dealing Goods without coupons I
10:49 did much business with Cohen the Germans
10:52 intended to make an example of them the
10:55 next day we walked I walked over to MRA
10:58 josa street street and I saw them they
11:01 hanged there there one full week Cohen
11:04 had a dry goods store he was known all
11:07 over snock often he gave me cloth with
11:10 no coupons I traded also with beffer a
11:13 fine young man a Zionist he was just
11:16 married his wife ran screaming into the
11:19 street I was frightened to go outside
11:21 for a few days I didn't want to pass
11:23 where they were hanging and maybe one of
11:26 them could have talked to me talked of
11:29 me to the Germans to try to save himself
11:31 AK when I think now of them it still
11:35 makes me cry look even from my dead eye
11:36 tears are coming
11:40 out what was Anya doing around this time
11:44 houseworks and knitting reading and she
11:45 was writing always her
11:48 diary I used to see polish notebooks
11:50 around the house as a kid were those her
11:54 Diaries yes and also no her Diaries
11:57 didn't survive from the war what you saw
11:59 she wrote after her whole story from the
12:03 start oh my God where are they I need
12:07 those for this book cough please Arty
12:09 stop with the smoking it makes me short of
12:10 of
12:13 breath I think it's all your pedaling
12:16 don't be so smart what was I telling you
12:19 yes after the hanging I looked for
12:21 another business I started to trade gold
12:23 and jewelry it was easier to hide than
12:26 clothings I kept things hidden in the
12:29 child's stroller and I made a few zotes
12:32 for a while I had also a food business
12:36 that I didn't yet tell you I met scari
12:40 he had a big grocery in madra Jaa you're zberg
12:42 zberg
12:44 son son-in-law right come inside and
12:47 wait for the rain to stop so together we
12:49 sat and spoke and he helped from time to
12:52 time a customer sorry you don't have
12:54 enough coupons to buy half a kilo of
12:57 sugar still she went out with half a
13:01 kilo I think I smelled I could arrange
13:03 something then a little more we spoke
13:06 and he made to me a proposition maybe
13:08 you could sell my extra items to small
13:11 shops in the area under the counter it
13:14 was dangerous to carry these things but
13:17 maybe I could be lucky when someone is
13:20 hungry he looks for business one time I
13:23 had 10 or 15 kilos sugar to deliver halt
13:26 Jo what are you carrying what was I
13:28 supposed to say for this I could read
13:30 really hang
13:33 sugar I'm taking it over to my grocery
13:37 store oh you have a shop I made so they
13:39 would think it was legal I went to the
13:42 back door where I had to deliver open up
13:46 P deck I've got our sugar and they left
13:54 papers but when we came to Star SAS all
13:56 my businesses became harder it was not
13:59 so easy to move around the Tin Shop
14:01 finished the owner was the only Jew they
14:03 let work there I got then a job in a
14:06 German carpentry shop father-in-law and
14:09 lck worried already there worked already
14:11 there for really no money I didn't need
14:14 this before but now I had to have the
14:17 workpaper wolf could have arranged me a
14:20 job at the gym end but I didn't want to
14:22 put my hands there where Jews were being
14:25 taken and then it came again something
14:28 new from the Germans we got a notice all
14:31 Jews over 70 years old will be
14:34 transferred to theresian stad in
14:37 Czechoslovakia on May 10th 1942 a
14:40 community better prepared to take care
14:43 of the elderly than ours in
14:46 swick it doesn't look too bad like a
14:50 convalescent home Ana's grandparents had
14:53 about 90 years we've been together a
14:56 family for 70 years we don't want to
14:59 break apart now don't worry we won't let
15:02 them take you we didn't yet know of
15:06 alitz of the ovens but we were anyway
15:09 afraid so in the yard we made a hiding
15:13 place a bunker cutaway view storage
15:16 sheds FAL wall
15:19 grandparents we sneaked food to them and
15:22 when it was safe we took them inside a
15:24 little several times came the Jewish
15:27 police to our house our records show
15:30 that Mr and miss Mrs Caro live here they
15:33 haven't registered for transfer yes my
15:35 wife's parents they left without a word
15:39 a month ago Jewish police yes with Big
15:42 Sticks some Jews thought in this way if
15:44 they gave to the Germans a few Jews they
15:46 could save the rest and at least they
15:47 could save
15:50 themselves and a month after they again
15:54 came to father-in-law Mr zy zberg you
15:56 and your wife must come with us if the
15:59 caros don't turn up in 3 days you two
16:05 place he had still a little protection
16:08 from the gind so they took only him away
16:11 not his wife he sat a few days there
16:14 then he sent to us a note he wrote that
16:16 we had to give over the grandparents
16:19 even if they took only him away now next
16:21 they would grab his wife and then the
16:25 rest of the family so what happened what
16:28 happened we had to deliver them they
16:30 thought it was
16:34 to thei and stad they were going let us
16:36 know if you need anything but they went
16:44 gas when did you first hear about owitz
16:47 right away we heard even from there from
16:49 that other world people came back and
16:52 told us but we didn't believe then the
16:54 same news came more and more so we
16:58 believed and later on we saw even worse
17:00 after what happened to the grandparents
17:02 it was a few months quiet then came
17:05 posters everywhere and speeches from the
17:08 gint fellow juice on Wednesday August
17:10 12th every one of you young and old male
17:13 and female healthy and sick must
17:18 register at the dened stadium oh no now
17:21 what there's no cause for alarm it's
17:23 only a matter of inspecting your
17:25 documents and stamping them this will
17:28 protect you as citizens of the region
17:32 not going it's a Nazi trap everybody was
17:34 worried and our Jewish committee is
17:37 helping those murderers Gods know what
17:39 God knows what will happen to us at the
17:42 stadium well they just inspected Jewish
17:45 documents in some nearby towns it was no
17:48 big deal anyway we've got to go without
17:51 legal papers we're lost to go it was no
17:56 good but not to go it was also no
17:59 good my father he had 62 years came by
18:02 street car to me from DEA The Village
18:05 next door from swick here's a cookie
18:09 Reeve Aunt FAA baked it for you say
18:10 thank you to
18:13 Grandpa after my mother died with cancer
18:15 he lived there in the house of my sister
18:18 phala and her four small children I need
18:20 your advice vadic should I go to the
18:23 stadium on Wednesday or hide at home I
18:25 don't know I'm not even sure what we're
18:28 going to do Ana's mother says she isn't
18:30 going she's sick and Afraid at least
18:33 Ana's father lolik and I all work at the
18:36 German wood shop we're a little safer
18:38 but you don't work you have no papers
18:40 you don't have
18:43 anything well our cousin morai says
18:45 he'll be at one of the inspection tables
18:48 I could bring my papers to him what does
18:51 Phila say she's not sure but if phala
18:54 decides to go of course I'll go with her
18:57 can I have another cookie Reeve really I
18:59 didn't know how to to advise him but
19:02 finally he did go people were afraid to
19:04 not show up so it came to the stadium
19:07 almost all the Jews of swick and from
19:09 the other Villages near maybe 25 or 30,000
19:11 30,000
19:14 people Everyone came very nice dressed
19:16 and they tried so that they would look
19:18 young and able to work in order to get a
19:20 good stamp on their
19:23 passport when we were everybody inside
19:25 gestapo with machines guns surrounded
19:28 the stadium line up by family at the
19:31 tables to register quickly then was a
19:34 selection with people sent either to the
19:38 left either to the right old people
19:40 families with lots of kids and people
19:43 without work cards are all going left we
19:47 understood this must be very bad me and
19:49 Ana came to the table where my cousin
19:51 was sitting ah you work at the carpentry
19:54 shop go to the right so we got stamped
19:56 on our passports and came quick to the
19:58 good side of the stadium those who were
20:02 sent left they didn't get any
20:05 stamp we were so happy we came through
20:08 but we worried now were our family safe
20:11 look there's Papa with lolic and lonia
20:14 we saw wolf and Tasha our family seems
20:17 to be okay did you see my father I
20:19 couldn't see anywhere my father but
20:22 later someone who saw him told me he
20:24 came through this same cousin over the
20:27 good side spiegelman to the right then
20:30 came fa to register her they sent to the
20:34 left four children was too many
20:37 F my daughter how can she manage alone
20:40 with four children to take care of and
20:43 what do you think he sneaked to the bad
20:45 side and those on the bad side never
20:49 came anymore home those with a stamp
20:51 were let to go home but there were very
20:53 few Jews now left in
20:56 snock one from three they kept at the
20:58 stadium maybe 10,000 people
21:02 and with them my father well it's enough
21:04 for today yes
21:08 Arty oo I overdid a little I'm feeling
21:11 dizzy maybe you should lie down a while
21:13 are you finished uh-huh my father's worn
21:16 out he's taking a nap he was just
21:18 telling me that about the time everyone
21:21 in swick had to get his passport stamped
21:23 in the stadium yes they got my mother
21:25 then she was taken with everybody else
21:28 who was going to be deported to four
21:29 apartment houses that were emptied to
21:32 make a sort of prison they put thousands
21:34 of people there it was so crowded that
21:37 some of them actually suffocated no food
21:40 no toilets it was terrible people jumped
21:42 out of the windows to end their misery a
21:45 little quicker God but my mother
21:48 survived that her brother was on the
21:50 Jewish committee and he hid her in a
21:52 coal Cellar till the transports left
21:54 when he got me a job scrubbing the
21:58 people's filth vomit excrement out of
22:00 several apartments and I managed to
22:02 smuggle her
22:04 out eventually she and my father both
22:07 ended up in owitz they died there where
22:09 are you going you didn't drink your
22:12 coffee I just thought of something my
22:13 father mentioned that ANA used to keep a
22:16 diary and I vaguely remember seeing them
22:18 in his shelves in the den I doubt it I
22:21 would have noticed them well there's so
22:23 much junk in there it's worth a shot
22:25 look at all this stuff old menus he
22:28 picked up on cruises a pile of
22:30 stationary from the Pines Motel
22:35 incredible four 1965 dry do Savings Bank
22:37 calendars I'll bet he never even had an
22:40 account there he drives me crazy he
22:42 won't even let me throw out the plastic
22:44 pitcher he took from his hospital room
22:47 last year he's more attached to things
22:50 than to people I really don't know how
22:52 long I can take him I really
22:55 don't I better be getting home I'll look
22:58 for those Diaries next time wait put
23:00 everything back exactly like it was or
23:03 I'll never hear the end of it okay okay relax
