0:05 greetings teen zone fans
0:09 and graphic novel enthusiasts
0:12 it's mr tone aka
0:17 in the cap here to wrap up
0:26 impressive and disturbing story
0:31 uh mouse volume 2
0:35 final chapter so
0:38 for those of you who may not have
0:43 had the experience prior to today's
0:47 meeting just give me a moment to
0:51 bring you up to speed as to how
0:58 for some people uh switching back and
0:59 forth between
1:02 two stories and this is a story within a story
1:03 story
1:07 okay it's a father and son
1:10 the father was in the prison camps in
1:12 the second world war
1:17 and in this final chapter uh he's
1:20 finishing up uh telling his son about
1:22 the experiences that he had
1:26 so what what we will see here is some flipping
1:27 flipping
1:30 between cells between the two places the
1:32 story itself
1:36 in the prison camps
1:39 and the story being told to his son
1:42 in the united states uh
1:46 some years later okay so this is where
1:49 uh we're going to bring back the
1:53 uh bring back the the story line
1:56 pick it up on the final chapter let me
1:58 just do some
2:00 screen sharing to get us to where we
2:01 need to be
2:04 and got some work here a little bit a
2:06 couple of clicks here and there
2:08 all right and we're going to screen
2:16 sure all right and
2:19 we're going to go full screen
2:24 here i am and
2:42 yep just about there okay
2:50 good now
2:58 so chapter five of volume two
3:05 the second honeymoon
3:15 want some coffee and she said
3:19 no i will not go in the gas chambers
3:22 and my children will not click
3:29 you know i've got over 20 hours of
3:32 vladic story on tape now
3:35 we were just about finished when he ran
3:42 he hasn't called us once i hope he's okay
3:44 okay
3:47 mala is down there maybe
3:50 they met and killed each other
3:53 actually i think their battle keeps him going
3:54 going
3:56 he's been a bizarre combination of helplessness
3:57 helplessness
4:07 what are we gonna do with vladik we sure
4:08 as hell can't move
4:12 out of regal park maybe he could move in
4:14 here with us
4:17 are you nuts his heart can't take our
4:20 our four fights or four flights of stairs
4:21 stairs
4:24 it's the best thing about this place
4:29 besides what if he says yes
4:32 well it's up to you he's your father
4:36 stop i feel guilty enough already
4:38 great that solves everything [Music]
4:39 [Music]
4:42 i wish he and mala could patch things up
4:53 click and my children will not go
4:58 in the gas chambers so tasha
5:01 so so dosha took the poison
5:04 not only to herself but to her little
5:12 hello mala we were just uh
5:14 what's the matter i don't know if i'm going
5:15 going
5:18 or coming your father is in
5:26 it's the third time in one month
5:29 water in the lungs he didn't want me to worry
5:30 worry
5:34 you but it's serious oh
5:38 where are you in the condo
5:41 i'm back with him again though god knows why
5:43 why
5:46 well look i'll call you back after i
5:54 hello say frances can i speak to mr spiegelman
5:55 spiegelman
5:59 he's a patient whoa you're sure
6:01 hi mala the hospital says he's not
6:03 registered there
6:11 he ran out of the hospital against his
6:12 doctor's advice
6:14 he says that he doesn't trust the
6:16 doctors here
6:21 it's crazy he looks like a ghost
6:24 he wants to go to his new york hospital
6:26 i think he wants to be near you
6:29 in case god forbid anything happens
6:44 hey everything's almost packed mala [Music]
6:45 [Music]
6:49 i'm the main reason i flew down
6:52 was to help shh
6:55 you know vladik wild horses can't hold
6:57 him still
7:02 so now he's exhausted and me too
7:06 hi pop how are you terrible
7:09 so weak so weak
7:12 did you arrange emergency oxygen for him
7:15 on tomorrow's plane
7:18 uh-huh and i've got an ambulance to take him
7:18 him
7:22 and me from jfk to laguardia hospital
7:25 i'll check him in while francois drives
7:30 you home
7:33 how did you two get back together
7:36 i don't know i got a call from the
7:38 hospital and felt sorry for him
7:42 i went over i swore i'd never see him again
7:42 again
7:46 but i'm just a sucker he
7:49 talked until i i was blue in the face
7:58 anya must have been a saint no wonder
8:00 she killed herself
8:03 he's calling you it's just his
8:06 stool he wants me to check it before
8:08 he'll flush
8:12 he's a dif he's as difficult as ever
8:16 but now he's more confused and dependent
8:27 the next morning at last we're done
8:30 yeah one hour to pack in four hours for
8:38 i'm dizzy now let's go sit in the fresh air
8:40 air
8:45 you go i need to call my brother leo
8:49 and my and say goodbye before we leave
8:52 bush a few years ago i went outside
8:56 here to buy for mala bagels i got
8:59 dizzy so like now i grabbed to a bush
9:01 and fell
9:04 i crawled to the side so people can see me
9:05 me
9:08 but won't step on me finally someone helped
9:09 helped
9:19 yeah just it's too noisy from the
9:20 highway an
9:24 airport nearby look artie you see
9:31 on such a tiny airplane we went out in 1946
9:32 1946
9:36 from poland to it was maybe
9:44 we never went before in a plane the
9:45 others were afraid to go
9:49 but i went right away inside i said to them
9:51 them
9:54 so don't worry let the plane crash at
10:04 why did you want to leave poland
10:08 it was nothing anymore there was for us
10:11 after the war nothing
10:14 we wanted here to come to uncle herman
10:18 but here was quotas so herman helped us
10:19 to have
10:28 did you work there and how i worked
10:33 hard labors i lifted and carried all day
10:36 heavy boxes only such jobs it was for refugees
10:37 refugees
10:41 but i was strong then not so like
10:44 now and i looked to get in a better business
10:47 business
10:49 one department store there but you owned
10:52 it i went to him
10:56 i've been trying to see you for weeks
10:59 but mr spiegelman we don't need any more salesmen
11:00 salesmen
11:09 i sold textiles and hosiery in poland
11:11 but i can sell anything
11:14 give me something no one can sell i just
11:27 we're stuck in a warehouse full of unfashionable
11:28 unfashionable
11:39 in the us uncle herman again had a
11:41 hosiery factory
11:46 by him i got full length nylon stockings
11:50 but these it was impossible to find in sweden
11:57 you want my nylons to buy do i
12:00 my customers will kill for these they're rationed
12:01 rationed
12:04 how much normal price
12:08 but to each pair you must also take
12:10 you must also a pair of my knee-high lengths
12:12 lengths
12:14 i'll i'll throw them away but it's worth it
12:16 it
12:24 i became so like a partner to this
12:26 department store
12:29 and very well off when it came a few
12:32 years later our visas to america
12:36 the store made a big surprise party
12:38 you can still rip up your boat tickets
12:40 and stay
12:46 i made in the states a living dealing diamonds
12:47 diamonds
12:51 but never had it again
12:55 so good ah
12:59 come we'll go we'll go now inside
13:02 huh why we've got a lot of time
13:06 it's too sunny maybe if we didn't pack
13:08 away my sunglasses
13:16 late that night please remain seated
13:18 until your sick passengers
13:27 so there was a six hour delay before boarding
13:29 boarding
13:31 then vladick complains that the oxygen unit
13:32 unit
13:35 isn't working and he can't breathe the
13:42 they say he's too sick to fly but we
13:44 refuse to get off
13:46 then vladix says the oxygen tank is
13:49 working and here we are
13:57 they set up a free phone for delayed passengers
13:58 passengers
14:00 mala called everyone she knows in america
14:02 america
14:06 you see i learned from vladic
14:10 half hour later finally
14:13 francois and mala must be home and dry
14:14 by now
14:16 they could have driven us to the hospital
14:17 hospital
14:20 don't worry the ride is paid by my insurance
14:27 excuse me he's
14:29 sick but i don't think he needs a stretcher
14:30 stretcher
14:33 regulations buddy
14:37 so go so where is
14:40 laguardia hospital ah go on queens boulevard
14:41 boulevard
14:44 till i say you to turn right thanks mister
14:45 mister
14:58 will it be much longer the tests are done
14:59 done
15:02 you can wait for for the doctor in there
15:08 how are you doing pop oh
15:11 so tired so tired
15:14 sorry it took so long but because of
15:16 what you told us about your father's condition
15:17 condition
15:20 we played it safe and ran extensive tests
15:22 tests
15:25 the pills he got in florida are taking
15:26 care of the water
15:29 in his lungs and his heart seems to be
15:35 you'll be glad to know you can take him
15:36 home with you
15:39 what um
15:42 if he's borderline case why not keep him
15:45 under observation for a few days
15:47 there's just no need for him to be hospitalized
15:49 hospitalized
15:52 well the doctor says you're okay we can
15:54 go home now
15:57 yeah then mala and i can stay the rest
16:01 of the year here in regal park
16:05 it's better if nothing is wrong here
16:09 near to my health plan hospital
16:11 than in florida hospital for a hundred
16:19 a month or so later already
16:23 we haven't seen you in ages i need time
16:25 to get over our trip from florida
16:28 what's new well
16:31 we're going to sell this house and move
16:32 down there
16:35 i'm amazed vladik agreed he's so
16:36 attached to this
16:40 place how's he feeling
16:43 he's been kind of listless it makes him
16:45 easier to take
16:49 but he's not really doing too well
16:52 he gets confused last week
16:55 he went to his bank and actually got
16:57 lost on the way home
17:01 anyway he's in there resting
17:04 so i hear you want to sell the house yeah
17:04 yeah
17:07 i want only peace if mala wants florida
17:11 okay let it be florida
17:15 come and sit i'm surprised to see you
17:18 uh-huh why i said i was coming
17:23 when i phoned you yesterday you phoned
17:26 i don't remember i came here to tape the
17:32 i need to know what happened at the very
17:34 end of the war
17:44 you were living on a farm with some gis
17:49 yeah with my friend the shivek
17:52 so what happened many refugees
18:00 so it came so it came in order
18:03 headquarters is setting up a displaced person's
18:05 person's
18:09 camp you'll have to move there
18:21 country of origin poland
18:24 here we got identity papers and a place
18:30 hey vladik come with me to hanover to see
18:30 see
18:34 my brother he's married to a gentile
18:38 who kept him hidden he oh
18:41 what's wrong i don't know civic i've got
18:42 a fever
18:45 and i'm itching all over in my throat my
18:54 i was for a day i was for a good few days
18:54 days
18:59 very sick well where am i
19:01 the infirmary you've had a relapse of typhus
19:03 typhus
19:06 i feel fine now
19:10 see a doctor regularly we can't diagnose
19:13 it but something is still wrong a year
19:14 after i found out
19:27 in this dp camp displaced persons
19:30 i had it easy hurry vladik we can earn
19:36 okay we speak english okay
19:40 civic he couldn't speak even polish
19:44 just yiddish we carried many goodies
19:48 when finally we got our id papers to go
19:52 we want tickets to hanover tickets
19:55 i don't know if there are even any tracks
19:56 tracks
20:03 trains stopped and started and had to
20:07 change often directions
20:11 look civic nuremberg i scrubbed streets here
20:12 here
20:15 as a p.o.w now it was only
20:20 stones and nothing
20:23 we came to one place verzeberg
20:27 what a mess where can i find water
20:29 huh we haven't had any water in three days
20:31 days
20:34 the americans destroyed everything
20:37 not one building was still standing
20:40 we came away happy let the germans have
20:41 a little
20:48 what they did to the jews
20:51 we arrived finally to hanover
20:54 the kids can share one bedroom you two
20:58 can have the other do you know where
21:02 any of your family is
21:04 i'll go to poland to see if anyone's left
21:05 left
21:08 we plan to meet in sosnervic
21:12 if we got separated
21:14 i sent a letter to the jewish community
21:15 center there
21:18 from my wife but she
21:21 can't still be alive i saw her in oswitch
21:21 oswitch
21:24 last year she was so
21:28 thin so weak you might get news about
21:30 your family in the big
21:33 displaced persons camp at belson jews
21:41 it wasn't far so i went for a few days
21:45 to belson one morning a crowd arrived
21:48 in with two girls when i knew a little
21:50 from my hometown
21:56 jenny sonya look it's vladik spiegelman
21:59 we just came from poland we were lucky
22:01 to get out
22:04 whatever you do don't go back to soznovic
22:05 soznovic
22:14 remember the gelbers they owned the big
22:16 bakery and salsa vic
22:18 one of the sons survived and came back home
22:20 home
22:22 what do you want this is my family's house
22:23 house
22:27 i'm gelber we thought hillary finished
22:39 he didn't know what to do he spent the
22:40 night in the shed
22:43 behind the house the poles went in
22:47 they beat him hanged him
22:54 his brother came from the camps a day
22:57 later and only stayed
23:01 long enough to bury him stop it
23:04 don't want to hear anymore
23:07 just tell me did you hear anything about anya
23:08 anya
23:11 i saw her she didn't try to get her
23:22 anya's alive my heart jumped
23:25 i couldn't believe anya was
23:29 all alone there and so and zozonovic
23:32 sorry anya no news for you each day she
23:34 checked the jewish organization
23:38 and each day she cried
23:41 she told me later she went once to a gypsy
23:42 gypsy
23:45 anya knew it was foolish but looked only
23:47 for some hope
23:50 i see tragedy death you've lost your
23:51 father your mother
23:55 everyone yes only
24:03 i see a child a dead child reissue
24:10 wait now i see a man illness
24:13 it's your husband he's been very very ill
24:18 he's coming he's coming home you'll get
24:19 a sign
24:22 that he's alive by the time the moon is full
24:27 i see a ship a far away place
24:29 you'll have a new life and another
24:38 anya went a few times each day over to
24:39 the jewish
24:44 organization but no sign came of him
24:46 so she sat home even more depressed until
24:48 until
24:51 knock knock anya guess what a letter
24:54 from your husband just came
24:58 he's in germany he's had typhus
25:05 and here's a picture of him my god
25:08 vladic is really alive
25:17 nice looking guy i passed once a photo place
25:18 place
25:21 what had a camp uniform a new and clean one
25:21 one
25:24 to make souvenir photos
25:27 anya kept this picture always i have it still
25:28 still
25:31 in my desk huh where do you go
25:40 incredible yeah so when i heard anya is
25:43 alive i stopped everything to go only
25:45 back to sozonovic
25:48 i traded my things to have gifts look
25:50 i got some dresses and a fur coat to
25:53 bring anya
25:57 you know if you got to poland
26:00 if you got to poland i'll go too
26:07 he went sometimes by foot sometimes by train
26:09 train
26:11 to poland many times it wasn't any
26:13 tracks left
26:15 one place we stopped hours hours and hours
26:17 hours
26:20 stay here with our luggage civic i'll go
26:25 fill our canteens
26:27 i marked our train car but when i came in
26:28 in
26:31 an hour back it was gone to another track
26:32 track
26:36 shimmer shiva went back to hanover to
26:39 find me again
26:41 but i went only straight to poland it
26:49 when i came finally to sozonovic i have
26:53 seen very little jews around but i found
26:55 out where the jewish organization
26:58 where is the jewish organization
27:02 there was people that knew me
27:05 look who's here somebody find anya and
27:13 and somebody found her
27:15 vladick it was such a moment that
27:17 everyone around us was crying together
27:26 more i don't need to tell you we were
27:28 both very happy
27:35 and lived happy happy ever after
27:39 so let's stop please your tape recorder
27:42 i'm tired from talking rishu
27:55 and there's his tombstone lodic died in 1982
27:57 1982
28:03 august 18th his wife anya
28:07 she died in 1968.
28:26 wow i was a little moved myself by their
28:31 little
28:37 being reconnected after such a horrible
28:38 horrible stop
28:41 story a horrible time
28:45 separation must have been that must have been
28:46 been
28:55 well anyway this is why i said that
28:58 these these are important stories
29:02 and that we should all be familiar with
29:03 these because
29:06 the unique way that it's told can really
29:07 can really give us
29:10 a perspective that you're not going to
29:21 that does it for both
29:25 volumes of art spiegelman's
29:30 classic graphic novel mouse
29:33 both volume 1 and volume 2.
29:41 the next graphic novel that we'll be
29:44 doing a read and show on
29:48 is persepolis another two volume
29:51 story written as a
29:54 sort of a biography
29:58 biography and
30:01 you will be able to experience that with
30:05 me again in
30:08 the teen zone
30:11 i hope that you can find the time
30:15 and that we will once again
30:19 be rejoined on
30:21 our facebook page at the derby public library
30:27 therefore i wish you all the best
30:30 and look forward to our next meeting
30:33 when we start a new novel
30:44 i bid you peace in your journey it's all
