the same letters no [ __ ] so they can all
write it down no [ __ ] it's so the
codee's not like spinning there it's
like it's literally kind of written out
static it's static so where the laser
is it's kind of like shining a
flashlight okay so let's just break it
down for people you
how set up the the environment for
people so you've got you got DMT you're
in a DMT where wherever it's legal to
do and there's like a a diffused laser
on the wall and the laser is like maybe
that thick so inch inch and a half inch
and a half yeah and if I shine the laser
on the wall it's like if you imagine
this room being pitch dark right now we
can't you can't see your hand in front
of your face right and I have a tiny
flashlight and this wall behind us is
covered in little
letters as I move that flashlight up
you're going to see different letters oh
as I move it down you're going to see
the letters below it so you can do this
I can move the laser up and down and see
all of the letters but it's like
three-dimensional so I can get close to
the wall I can look down inside of the
laser that way and I can look up in the
laser that way yep and then it's like I
would say it's 4 in behind the wall is
is where the numbers are the
characters it's not on on the flat wall
it's behind so you can see through the
wall so to speak you can kind of look
down up inside of the wall yeah cuz I
noticed yeah like their heads were moving
moving
around what's your best guess at explaining
explaining
that I would be a fool okay I love we
can just leave it at that maybe it's a
universal cont ious that we're
projecting something on to it but if you
look at every near-death experience and
we're going off the deep end here with
on our topics but yeah I'm going to add
something to it when you're done if you
look at every near-death
simulation like like can you explain
that for people so they like your idea
of what a simulation is yeah we don't
know if it's digital we don't know if
it's physical we don't know if it's
spiritual Quantum whatever who knows but
like if you just listen to everybody
that's ever had like a near-death
experience there's another level almost
like they volunteered to play Avatar or
some kind of video game and we just like
we become a ghost somewhere and this
ghost decides to ride around in a meat
suit for a little while and it's like
99% of them are saying that so maybe
this is some creation that we made in
some other realm or something like that
that's what it felt like to me when I
was doing it and
that's please remember for everybody
listening I am grossly unqualified to
say I've got this [ __ ] figured out so
you're not saying that at all yeah again
back with I would say more so with my
iasa experience and maybe some mushroom
Journeys like I had that sense of
not quite being in a meat suit but but
being in some I was in some digital
realm the room was Pitch
Black and I looked down at like my my I
was sitting up I was looking down at my
kind of lap and my hands in my arms I
could see clear as day but they were
they were almost like an avatar type
thing it was like how the [ __ ] can I
it's it's Pitch Black in here and I
could I put them in front of my face and
I could see them and I was
just I was it was another reminder that I
I
don't I have access so little of what
this space is yeah what I was going to
add just to like throw another thing on
there that I'm not going to complete but
I'll just leave people with this is I
had a spent some time with a close
friend yesterday who's been on a Journey
throughout the world of going to these
different sacred sites and these
different nodes of the earth and he saw a
a
Healer we've all heard that term healer
like this is like an OG healer and I
just for the sake of like I'll be very
vague about
where but this healer took him to this
cave and in this cave are these Hermits
physically or in a in a literally in a
cave they went to a cave yes great
question physical spot and there are the
largest collection of Hermits people
that are Hermits and they are holding
down the energy of the earth each of
them holds something different down if
you have an illness you see this hermit
if you want Financial abundance you see
this hermit if
you whatever is needed if you want to
connect to your higher self and bridge
that gap of what your ego with your soul
and like live there like you see this
hermit it's just the most fascinating
like just that alone and these guys are
breatharians they don't eat they they
they are there until they ascend like
they are just in there on their breath
it's a thing I need to go to this bik
yes we do we do yes we do it blew my
mind and he said uh he collects water my
friend does and he asked the the Healer
if he could collect some water from this
cave he said absolutely so they get
there and there's barely any water cuz
it hadn't rained um and you know it
comes down through the cave but they
hadn't had rain and and so he's like can
I take some water now because there's
not going to be there's not there's
basically enough for his vial he said he
said no we need to do a blessing first
with the water and so they do and he's
thinking oh that's going to use all the
water up so they do the blessing and do
the thing and he says give me your give
me your vial he go goes down he puts the
vial uh down where the water was and he
water
wow he goes to his
hermit says you know he's going I forget
exactly what he was going for and we'll
just leave it at that but he grabs the
offering were a bunch of flower pedals
he grabs them holds them to his
chest says his prayer does his
thing in in his hand is a
crystal just
materialized from
flowers wow so to your point we don't
know what like in there's
healers they're they're the ones who can
see beyond like this Matrix world that
that we're very much conditioned to so
and you know what I think
if you could take a human being and show
them everything show them the reality of
the world what it's made of that what
was before the Big Bang where we come
from all the spirit world all of that
and then brought them back to Earth they
can't explain it our language is not
capable of communicating that even if
they knew the truth you just can't say
it like it's it our language isn't made
for that yeah I think that's that's well
said that's it like it's what people
talk about right in the medicine
ceremony it's ineffable I unless you've
been in that space then we can we can
kind of get there together yeah but if
you've never been in that space I've got
no chance of describing what I
experienced yeah that's it right that's
the only only way we can really connect
on it if we both visited some other
realm yeah we can't talk I can't
describe it no to anybody it's so
true we need to go to that we cave we
need to make a video of going to this
cave I need to do this
yes okay I want to talk
scops okay because it has it's been in the
the
Zeitgeist currently yeah
and I wasn't familiar with it up until a
couple years ago even and I think for a
lot of people it's even been within
since the fall with like everybody
talking you know Sean Ryan's doing a lot
of work with this Ops and whatnot and
so you have a
unique uh connection to the scop world
and so I I just I'm so curious about
just unpacking this this in a way that
people can kind of wrap their head
around what what is how
easily we are sucked into particular
narratives and why and what's who's
doing it why are they doing it
is it all malevolent is some of it
benevolent you know the whole kitten
Kaboodle well let's talk about our
brains first so most people live their
life as though they have some kind of
firewall or antivirus system in their
own brain and they believe that they're
not maybe not fully immune but they
believe that they're going to know it
when they see it I'm going to know scops
when I see it I'm going to know that
manipulation when I see it
those are the most
suggestible people they're the easiest
to manipulate so like if you go out to
if to Best Buy today and you picked up a
new Windows
computer um and I was like hey man you
should download that maffy antivirus
program you're like N I don't believe in viruses
viruses
bro that's the same thing with our brain
we're not alert to it because we believe
that we're immune so so it's a fallacy
that like I I have a 60-second screen
time limit on social
media I'm I'm number one Behavior guy in
the world voted from some people and my
mom also says that yeah most importantly
yeah and uh I I'm
terrified I'm I teach the stuff for a
living and I'm terrified of that's how
powerful it is the human brain versus a
one trillion computer you're not going
to win and the number one thing that I
could say to start to kick off this
scops thing is technology has outpaced
the human brain's ability to adapt to
it and it continues to go
logarithmically right yeah and our
brains have not changed in 200,000 years
so we are at this level where it is an
unbelievable and I'm not just talking
about social media I'm talking about all
kinds of stuff mhm but we're at this
modern time
where the human brain can be hacked so
easily I teach brain hacking that's kind
of what I do um from sales teams to
sciops it's the same thing it's just a
human brain so scops really gets its
start by the
way I know you realize this but I don't
know if everybody realize how much of a
mind [ __ ] it is that you who said that
if you think you can spot a sigh off
like you are the most suggestible like
all of those people myself includer like
that's a [ __ ] s up like it's like oh
it's it's such a that just put me into a
pretzel I'm say holy [ __ ] no no no I
think you will you are able to spot them
but when you hear a person that says
they they I can't be persuaded I can't
be in I'm immune to that stuff yeah I'm
not immune to it okay that's where it
gets dangerous got it like the guy like
bro I don't believe in vir computer
viruses I won't get
infected um so it's it when it comes to
Sops you want to control a mammal brain
you're not you're not thinking about
human brain here the mamalian brain
makes all of your choices all of your
decisions and it is absolutely in charge
so like if somebody says well no the
human I'm the human brain's bigger the
neocortex is way bigger
well go ahead and hold your breath until
you die you can't you can't will your
way out of this mamalian part of our
brain taking over and this is our lyic
system the emotional regulatory part of
our brain going back into the brain
stem and the the if you just think of it
as how how do I take control of a dog
it's the same thing that take control of
a human same thing for a horse or an
animal any mammal and there's four
things that take control control of the
mamalian part of the human brain and it
spells out the word fate f a t according
to me anyway and that's Focus Authority
tribe and
emotion if I use those four things I can
control a dog I can I can train a
dolphin I could teach a killer whale at
SeaWorld to jump through a hoop or
whatever or I can control an entire
population of human beings or one human
if I just G gain control of focus
trigger their uh an ancestral response
to Authority trigger the their thinking
that the tribe is all doing the same
thing that they are and this is the
expected response of a tribe and then
trigger an emotional reaction and I'm
done you have full control of a human being
being
so a lot of what scops are designed to
do most people talk about Sops but I
think um brainwashing falls into this
influence and persuasion are also part
of this that are out side of the scop so
scops typically have an aim of getting a
population to become more suggestive and
destroying apathy or I'm sorry in
instilling apathy and destroying outrage
so high apathy very low outrage so if I
can show you things all day long that
make you upset that make you pissed off
soon enough you're going to be like I
can't do this anymore like here's
another thing that's pissing me off no
I'm not I'm just GNA flip to the next
video mhm so it's an engineered
destruction of outrage and it's an
engineered installation of apathy that's
step one then the next step is called
PDS and that is pacify distract and
sedate in that
order so this is to where I want you I'm
going to engineer a culture of
loneliness and then offer up all kinds
of anesthetic
geez we've never seen that happen right
yeah [ __ ] so here's one thing that I I
would tell my kids growing up and that
is if a product doesn't tell you the
problem that they're trying to solve you
need to be terrified
terrified
terrified give me an example Facebook
Instagram even more than that look at
the the VR goggles that all these
companies have right
now where do they tell you the problem they're
they're
solving because you look at Amazon
there's like we're going to get [ __ ] to
you faster we're going to get it to your
house we're going to get it overnight
returns are really easy you want that
shirt I'll have it to you tomorrow all
of the problems are very clear and
delineated what they're solving yeah you
go look at Apple Vision Pro you go look
at this Facebook uh
goggles and try to find where they tell
you what problem they're solving they
don't because it's loneliness
wow and and it's becoming an anesthetic
for dissatisfaction with
life so that's step one that's pacify
okay step two
distract so with distraction we're going to
to
engineer uh during and you always want
to pay attention to timing is there a
politician getting something revealed
that needs to happen or is is there an
election coming up or is there a
transition of power happening and then
distractions could be uh gas leaks at a
factory somewhere a train crashing and
shooting smoke up into the air just
hypothetically yeah yeah yeah or maybe a
helicopter running into a plane
hypothetically um and I'm not saying any
of that's engineered maybe those are
accidents um but the timing and context
make it very suspicious because there's
other things going on the drones in New
Jersey and all of this other stuff
um so anytime you see anything that
looks like it might be a distraction
look at the timing like what's going on
on page four of the news not just the
front page but what's on page four uh
because they're G assuming they report
whatever it is there will bury that
stuff yeah and then sedate is the final
one so the sedation agenda becomes
overloading and
overflowing everybody with information
and then using this tool that they
actually invented uh for hypnosis for
clinical hypnosis called fractionation
and fractionation is where I take your
emotions way up then I pull your
emotions down I take you in a high state
of emotion and then down again and every
time I bring you down you get more
suggestible so uh you can think of this
in terms of if you look over the last
year our society had these little high
points and low high and low and every
low gets a little bit lower than the
last low we become more suggestible and
more suggestible and more compliant and
this has been demonstrated in study
after study after study that we the more
compliant we are we will just blindly
follow a tribe we will ignore facts we
will agree to things that are absolutely
stupid because we've become it's
engineered suggestibility is what it is
so with the sedate system oh I'm kind of
losing track of uh what I'm talking
about here but we're constantly
bombarding this emotional regulation so
in hypnosis I would put you into a
trance and then wake you up just very
briefly so I might say in a moment I'll
count from 1 to 5 you're going to your
awareness of the room is coming back
you're more aware of the sound of my
voice you're finally back in this chair
here just aware the weight of your body
waking up just enough to open your eyes
now open your eyes great and sleep all
the way down back again so like we'll do
this little up and down partially wake
you up and then every time you go into
hypnosis again you're going way deeper
oh which means it's super effective when
you're trying to help someone yes very
effective yeah so two things are
happening in that state number one your
brain is going into the Theta wave state
so it's around uh maybe four to seven
Hertz uh of neural oscillations or what
they call brain waves outside of
Neuroscience and the second thing that's
happening is your brain every time
you're kind of going down into like a
like that hypnotic State and you're
actually using real hypnosis the brain
is flooded with this neurotransmitter
called Gaba and Gaba stands for GMA
aminobutyric acid and it is the brain's
number one inhibitory neurotransmitter
it's like the resident assistant in
college that's walking around telling
everybody to turn the music down so it's
just it's like calming everything in the
brain so Gaba is our safety chemical it
makes us feel safe so that's that's
basically what all hypnosis is Theta
brain wave state increase levels of gapa
uh and if you want to get super
scientific there's something called homo
vanilic acid that we also see a spike in
but that's only if you suck some
cerebral spinal fluid out during a
lumbar puncture and measure that but
those things are happening uh in a
clinical hypnosis setting but they're
happening in Mass they're
happening to populations at a on a mass
scale and it is clear as day that it's
being done what's being obfuscated is
the end result the desired goal of these
people and what they want to do with
everything are they doing some of this
let's call it hypnosis through um
through the
news when I
see I would say my friends that still
watch the news there aren't many of them
but they're they are the most
suggestible like they're not paying
attention to any of the the signs that
are out there maybe yeah okay and if you
watch the news again um you'll hear
let's let's just take a a talk show for
example and any talk show would apply
I'm just using this as an example let's
take John
Oliver Last Week Tonight I think is the
name of the
show uh there will be a strange fact
that is very hard to back up or has a
lot of stuff where you could argue
against it really weird bizarre fact or
something said to make you feel like you
hate someone or someone's stupid someone
did something bad and before you can
logically process it there's a joke
immediately and to get you to not
process that fact now you're hearing the
entire audience laugh so that's
triggering your tribal
response of oh that line was funny
because there's 150 people laughing it's
triggering this animal response in our
brain to automatically accept this
information oh yes and that's just one
example I could go through a whole show
and show you a hundred other hypnotic
techniques and brain hacking techniques
that are being used in all these shows
and so these writers understand this
kind of Playbook or like how like what
what would your best guess be around
that because I that is clear as day like
it's it doesn't matter if I agree with
what they're saying or not like it is
that is the formula I get it yeah so
it's controversial
statement misdirection tribal
involvement h so it's sometimes the
misdirection is a joke sometimes like
there's something crazy that happens
like you throw a water balloon or
something right after one of these
things that I don't want you to
critically think about and that's the
number one thing so the number one that
information is just lodged in your head
and it's like becomes more or less fact
yeah so that's why hypnosis works though
so it the number one goal of hypnosis is
to bypass the brain's critical Factor so
that's what I'm really doing so like
you'll hear uh very commonly you'll hear
hypnotists say stuff like and as you
listen to this voice your conscious mind
might just wander around all on its own
and the part of you that really needs to
hear what we're going to do today can
stay with me while your conscious mind
can drift and think of anything that it
wants to think about so it's bypassing
this little critical part of our brain
that's that's made for saying is this
information good for me is it accurate
should I do this so that's what hypnosis
is and that's exactly what's happening
in all of the these news channels TV
shows all of that when did how did you
pick up on this I've been studying
hypnosis for 26 years I had the for four
years in a four years straight I had the
number one bestselling book in the world in
in
hypnotherapy so what's the name of that
book The ellipses manual we we're link
to all your your Publications here too
so so what what you'll see also
especially in news is bad news joke or
good news bad news news Joker good news
and right on this little high point boom
you're you're a little more suggestible
but you're ready to kind of go down and
they'll pull you down and right as they
start pulling you down your brain has a
lot of expectancy because you know
you're kind of going down that roller
coaster commercial now you're more
likely to buy products you're more
likely to spend money you're more likely
to give money to
advertisers so fascinating this is this
is the preschool level of this stuff it
goes so deep dude yeah my God but at the
end of the day um I could give you and I
guarantee you this I could give you
three hours of training and you would be
able to manufacture a mentu and
candidate no [ __ ] way I could train
you just for three hours and you could do
do
it it's not hard uh you find somebody
that's suggestible or you make a person
suggestible so one thing we PE people
need to realize is suggestibility is
fluid it is not a fixed trait it's not
like this guy's this and this this
person's this it's fluid so you can
train a blank slate to be suggested what
you're saying yes okay and here's the
final scary part here um let's say
somebody you always hear hypnotist say
oh you can't be made to do something
that's against your will or something
that you wouldn't normally do you you
can't do that that's not true at all
let's say uh I'm a creepy hypnotist and
I want you to get naked uh here in my
office uh normally we're in my office
you're not going to get naked because
you have rules about that right we have
these little social constructs these
folk ways or what they're called in Clinical
Clinical
Psychology so when do you get are you
going to get naked within the next 24
hours yeah probably going to get into a
shower or something like that so all I
do I put you under hypnosis and say you
just got home from an a nice long drive
you throw your keys in the bowl turn on
the nice hot water the shower's ready
for you and now you're getting in the
shower so how did I manipulate you I changed
changed
context if I can manipulate the way that
you see the context that you're in I can
make you do
anything so if I want to create a mass
shooter I want to create a Manchurian
Candidate there is a context where if
I'm fighting off zombies I shoot every
everyone in the room if I think
everybody's a
zombie if I believe that someone uh
who's holding a a can of beer that can
of beer is actually a hand
grenade that's a context where you might
shoot someone yeah so all a person has
to do is shift context but now we just
talked about this on a one-on-one level
think of it as a
population if I can get that population
to start seeing a different context I
can get them to start taking more
violent action I can get them to protest
I can get them to Riot just because I
modifi the way that they see this
context that's the most scary part when
I'm when am I if if you want to get good
at spotting Sops you get really good at
saying I can see that someone is
Shifting the context here and making me
view something differently and if I can
go on one more tangent that's like 40
long no he goes you get you get the
floor I everything revolves around
PCP if you just remember that you're
going to start seeing this everywhere if
I can modify your
perception the way you see something
like hypnosis I can make you perceive
that you're doing something different
then I can automatically I can shift
your context and if I can shift your
context then I can give you permission
in in your own head to do anything I
want you to do percept ception context
and permission so this is
where you know in the
past um would someone like Siran Siran
fall into this category absolutely yeah
and I did a documentary on my YouTube
channel about about Siran Siran okay I
even drove to the prison uh to interview
Siran and he was unavailable somehow
from my interview people just like a
little kind of snapshot of that of who
he is little back who he is yeah yeah so
Siran San was a Palestinian national um
who it allegedly or was charged with and
convicted of the murder of Senator Bobby
Kennedy and this happened in a hotel
Kitchen in in uh San
Francisco and to this day he says he has
no memory of the event he doesn't
remember pulling out a gun and he was 7
feet in front of Kennedy like
pointing the gun directly at him and
Kennedy's gunshot wounds that killed him
were one in the back of the head that
went up through his head and one like
kind of in the armpit from
behind um and this I mean it's open this
is not some Theory this is just in the documentation
documentation
so uh I believe that someone named Dr
joyn West oh yeah
Jolly uh was involved with with maybe
training the guy who maybe made him do
this but I think that he was made to do
this and I think there was a person with
training that was influencing him to be
at that hotel and to be there with a
gun but I don't I think Siran is
innocent yeah but here's the true the
true Talent is not in hypnosis because I
could teach you I could teach you severe
extreme techniques in like one day you
and I spent one day together I could
but the the true danger is in that
operator let's call him an operator
operative their ability to pick the
perfect Target okay so is he Palestinian
is there a reason that he would be
hateful does he have some kind of
deep-seated anger and resentment toward
them are they highly suggestable to
begin with are they very susceptible to
hypnosis like that's the perfect Target everything's
everything's
perfect um so it it's a lot easier than
you think and if you look at the mgrm
experiment are you familiar with the
milgrim I know the name I'm sure I'll
remember as you as you share it I'm sure
was one of these rabbit holes I've been
in over the last few months it's come
across my desk it's uh Yale University
1962 Dr Stanley
mgram uh they do a study on whether or
not the nurburg trials are kind of going
on MH and that the these nazzis are
saying like I was just following orders
so he's like you know his parents were
Jewish oh dude yes I do remember this so
he's like can we get somebody to just
follow orders yes so in a nutshell for
anybody that doesn't know this
experiment involves one volunteer and
two actors volunteer shows up and they
say hey we're doing a study you're going
to read this stuff to this guy right
here we're going to strap him to a
machine and every time he gets a
question wrong you're going to zap his
ass and every time he gets the next one
wrong you're going to increase the
voltage increase the voltage all the way
to the machine goes 450 volts danger
extreme shock is what it said on the
machine so these doctors before the
experiment started they're like forming
just like the scientific method What's
the hypothesis they said
0.8% of people are going to go through
with this you have to be a psychopath to
be to kill someone obviously the guy in
the other room is not getting shocked
he's an actor but throughout this thing
he's screaming and you can hear him
through the drywall in the experiment
he's saying banging on the wall saying I
want to get out of here I don't want to
do this anymore I want to stop I want to
stop this and this guy the volunteers
sitting there thinking that they're
shocking him they turn around to this
guy in a lab coat and the guy in the lab
coat says please
continue the experiment requires that you
you
continue um I'm responsible please
continue so just little phrases like
that so so here's the here's the weird
part that no one ever talks
about number one 67% of people and these
are just random people they've done the
study multiple times it wasn't just this
one thing 67% went all the way all the
way to 450 and here's the weird part at
like 350 volts the guy in the other room
stops answering questions stops making sound
sound
altogether like he's dead
and they turn around to the guy in the
lab Cod like what am I going to do do I
keep going guy in the lab Cod says any
non-answer must be treated as an
incorrect answer please
continue 67% of people murdered a
stranger in under an hour
67% and 250 volts is enough to kill you
guess how many percent went to
250 100 oh my God
100% And and everybody's always thinking
about like what's the influence tactic
here what's the thing script what do I
say what's the sales script and all this
other stuff there was no hypnosis
there's no manipulation there's no
secret technique to touch them on the
shoulder and they become a killer
there's no secret language sales script
to get him to be hyper obedient none of
that it was just taking over the
mamalian brain that's the only thing
that happened and if you know the skills
to be able to spot that you you make
yourself more and more immune to manipulation
manipulation
but then again if you know how to
harness that and then Target someone's
Mamon brain you can literally get them
to do anything because I teach sales
teams and they're like oh yeah but our
clients are resistant I'm like can you
go talk some they're like selling a car
or a solar panel like you think talking
someone into [Music]
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murder and that's you like the car is
hard so if you I mean 45 minutes you get
100% of people to shock somebody at 250
volts selling a car is not hard it's all
about the M mamalian part of our brain
wow can you the hypnosis would just be a
say do do you have any thoughts and we
can we can um you say say no absolutely
feel free to say no but
on on the the
shooter uh at the Trump
rally I'm suspicious I'll just say that
okay I'm very suspicious yeah we'll
leave it at that
that
um I want to know about your
Retreats I've never done one of these Retreats
Retreats
before and one thing that I noticed when
I got out of the milit military I
thought it was cool like I have I've uh
I've never been rude to anybody no
matter if I'm talking to a detainees or
prisoners never once in my life have I
been rude I've you know punched people
cuffed them after they they've got
violent never been
rude and I get out of the military and
like the my marketing stick I guess was
M let me teach you mind control and all
of this stuff and which is still what I
teach today like I teach people literal
brainwash ing mind control tricks bra
how to use brainwashing on
yourself and behavior profiling how to
read body language and deception and all
this stuff I've got ranked the number
one body language expert in the world
and what I've noticed is like when when
I get a person to really learn learn it
at a deep level it injects a tremendous
amount of empathy uh into people but
that was never you can't put that on the
advertising uh page you know what I mean
let me give you become a big old softy
yeah um and then you get good at
influencing and you start seeing
yourself and everyone else and like it
it the empathy comes first and then the
influence part comes and I think it's
important to teach this to good people
and what I've noticed is that what I'm
really doing over these years in in this
like I have a VIP coaching group that I
teach every week and these are the
people I teach very extreme techniques
to that I
maybe a little scared to share with the
public and they're all good people but
over time what I'm teaching people is
like who you are matters like everybody
spends like all this money on sales
scripts like if I had a $10 million
sales script it took me 50 years to put
it together it's the most beautiful
thing ever it's like the golden ticket
sales script works every time right and
I give it to somebody with social
anxiety and say go use this script
it doesn't matter the technique doesn't
matter it's the person using it it's can
do I have confidence do I have authority
to use those things just like the guy in
the lab coat in the milgrim experiment
the lab coat was a our sociological
representation of an authority figure so
in the end um I I wanted to help people
get out of their ego and because when I
started like my first psychedelic
journey I didn't realize how much I was
an ego and
I was embarrassed what called you to to
take that Journey
epilepsy okay so I did like a five G
Journey was my first experience MH and I
was embarrassed at like my past self for
how I was just wrapped in ego and like I
I need to be important and I need people
to see me as important and all this
stuff and I wanted like come like just
unzipping your ego costume you know not
even jumping out of it just like kind of
pulling that zipper down a little bit
and letting some air in there it feels
so good it's like like I'm first time
I'm experiencing some level of Truth
like real beautiful truth so I am a
global recognized expert in Sops and
brainwashing and I thought like what if
I used psychedelics every single one of
the techniques that I teach to brainwash
someone and permanently change them in a
good way no no crazy waterboarding stuff
but what if I could permanently change a
person over the course of a 4-day uh
Retreat to like Escape out of their ego
and live outside their ego so I want
other people to experience like this
profound level of Truth not that I've
got everything figured out I do these
events for me too I go through the whole
thing with everybody yeah um but I the
our first event is here in a couple
months and it is four days we're doing
every single technique known to
man uh with from a metaphysical side
from a brainwashing side from a
behavioral engineering side Neuroscience
side uh to balance out neurotransmitters
to balance out vitamin levels in their
bodies everything you could possibly
think of uh to help a person get out of
their ego permanently not like you leave
the event and say oh that was great I
can't wait to go back to the next one I
don't want people to come back yeah yeah
so I think it's going to be a fun event
I think so too and you said that's going
to be in late May late May in Mexico yep
I I wish I could sell tickets but uh I
don't think there are any left maybe there's
there's
two we'll put a link to it but I'm sure
they'll be sold out but would certainly
stay tuned
for the next when the Austin events
whenever that gets booked yeah and the
events all the retreat will be called
exit it's called exit exit okay you've
been working with psychedelics a bit
though since that experience what is
what is what have you seen as the
benefits with that and with brain
training like what like what was the aha
moment for you you know as you were
doing all this work leading up to that
you had the experience and it's just
like these things just go together I
mean besides having your own experience
like like architecting this
whole experience yeah it is I I
genuinely in my soul I believe it is
going to be one of a kind I don't think
there's anything that's ever been done
like this in the history of the world
using all of these techniques like just
layered on top of each other but I see
one-on-one clients and to take them
through like these transformational things
things
and for some of these clients I create a
Manan candidate in them like an alter
ego that they can turn on and turn off
the difference is that they get to pick
what it is like their level of
confidence and all this other settings
that they get to
change but during some of these
experiences with these celebrities and
athletes and some of MMA fighters that
I've I've worked
with I needed to get them out of their
ego first because I needed a clean slate
to work with so I have been testing out
this method after method after method
and it's beautiful man to see like
somebody make this transition and
realize like now is when your life
starts like this is when living like the
true life really starts not that I'm
enlightened or anything I still have an
ego I think we all still have ego
absolutely we we just need to get to a
point where I can kind of flip a switch
and realize how to suppress it or how to
crawl out of that
costume not just all day every day but
at the exact moment that I feel like
doing it whenever I want to I can unzip
that whole costume and get out of it
what would an alter ego like this self
kind of menuing candidate look like for
someone as an example uh I worked with
uh Roy Jones Jr yeah and he trains a lot
of Fighters I had one of his Fighters I
don't know if he's comfortable with me
saying his name so I won't um one of his Fighters was going up for this big prize
Fighters was going up for this big prize fight and he call Roy calls me like two
fight and he call Roy calls me like two days three days before this fight and
days three days before this fight and he's like hey man can you make a
he's like hey man can you make a Manchurian Candidate that doesn't run
Manchurian Candidate that doesn't run out of breath and doesn't feel pain and
out of breath and doesn't feel pain and like doesn't get G you know they say
like doesn't get G you know they say gassed out like just out of breath in a
gassed out like just out of breath in a fight and I was like yeah yeah I can do
fight and I was like yeah yeah I can do that I had no idea oh I was like Jesus
that I had no idea oh I was like Jesus or not I could do but uh I didn't know
or not I could do but uh I didn't know but I'm like yeah I think you can kind
but I'm like yeah I think you can kind of do anything with what with this
of do anything with what with this system that I've
system that I've developed he's like all right I'm gonna
developed he's like all right I'm gonna fly you to Vegas and I I worked with
fly you to Vegas and I I worked with this guy for a day and a half and this
this guy for a day and a half and this usually takes me four days so I'm I'm
usually takes me four days so I'm I'm really nervous because oh you only have
really nervous because oh you only have a day and a half with them you're saying
a day and a half with them you're saying got it okay with the fighter yeah yeah
got it okay with the fighter yeah yeah so it's massive amount of hypnosis a lot
so it's massive amount of hypnosis a lot of other Neuroscience modifications that
of other Neuroscience modifications that were doing with him
were doing with him and I went to the fight I I got to watch
and I went to the fight I I got to watch the fight and I got to watch him in the
the fight and I got to watch him in the back room the whatever they call like
back room the whatever they call like The Green Room where they're kind of
The Green Room where they're kind of warming up and stuff and kind of reh
warming up and stuff and kind of reh hypnotize him and get him ready he walks
hypnotize him and get him ready he walks the fights on YouTube um but he walks
the fights on YouTube um but he walks out there and he's fighting this guy
out there and he's fighting this guy who's like undefeated bigger than him
who's like undefeated bigger than him way way better
way way better fighter uh and he wins like he wins the
fighter uh and he wins like he wins the fight but he goes back and when he sits
fight but he goes back and when he sits in his corner like during all the breaks
in his corner like during all the breaks his chest isn't rising and falling he
his chest isn't rising and falling he has no expression on his face uh he's
has no expression on his face uh he's getting punched in the face and nothing
getting punched in the face and nothing is changing on his face throughout the
is changing on his face throughout the entire fight and the announcers even say
entire fight and the announcers even say it in the video they've never seen
it in the video they've never seen anything like that before he's not
anything like that before he's not gassed out he's not feeling any of that
gassed out he's not feeling any of that pain and essentially I I made a little
pain and essentially I I made a little temporary psychopath that he can turn on
temporary psychopath that he can turn on and off and just in case I gave the off
and off and just in case I gave the off switch secrets to his manager and his
switch secrets to his manager and his Corner man and his
Corner man and his wife yes you nice good thinking here's
wife yes you nice good thinking here's the best part of the story uh the night
the best part of the story uh the night before the fight they go to do that
before the fight they go to do that thing where they you know they're taking
thing where they you know they're taking pictures with their yeah like the
pictures with their yeah like the ceremonial weigh in or whatever yeah and
ceremonial weigh in or whatever yeah and they're like like in each other's face
they're like like in each other's face and stuff uh
and stuff uh his I call it a machine like the machine
his I call it a machine like the machine that I built in this head yeah uh his
that I built in this head yeah uh his machine
machine he didn't do the thing that I told him
he didn't do the thing that I told him to do to turn the machine on but the
to do to turn the machine on but the machine turned on by itself when that
machine turned on by itself when that opponent got in there and he just did
opponent got in there and he just did this like he's looking at this guy like
this like he's looking at this guy like that's the guy right there yeah and he
that's the guy right there yeah and he looks over at his wife just one glance
looks over at his wife just one glance she picks their children up and moves to
she picks their children up and moves to a different
a different Hotel she said that is not my husband
Hotel she said that is not my husband she knew like instantly just one little
she knew like instantly just one little piece of eye contact and she went to
piece of eye contact and she went to stay in another hotel until the fight
stay in another hotel until the fight was all over and everything was done
was all over and everything was done it worked thank goodness so this is what
it worked thank goodness so this is what can be expected in the retreat you're
can be expected in the retreat you're saying no no no retreat's going to be a
saying no no no retreat's going to be a completely different thing Retreat is no
completely different thing Retreat is no Alter Ego at all it's going to be
Alter Ego at all it's going to be grounding get out of ego nothing to do
grounding get out of ego nothing to do with what I usually do okay so this
with what I usually do okay so this thing with the bo the fighter I'm so
thing with the bo the fighter I'm so intrigued there's like these uh
intrigued there's like these uh when I do it with
when I do it with actresses they sometimes want the alter
actresses they sometimes want the alter ego to be a character they're playing in
ego to be a character they're playing in a movie so that they can kill it when
a movie so that they can kill it when the movie's done or when they're done
the movie's done or when they're done filming and from what I've heard from
filming and from what I've heard from I've worked with two actresses that
I've worked with two actresses that every human being over the age of 10
every human being over the age of 10 knows their name yeah and she said that
knows their name yeah and she said that every I don't know if this is true but
every I don't know if this is true but she said like every actress like it's
she said like every actress like it's stressful having to be this person
stressful having to be this person filming a movie for a year and a half or
filming a movie for a year and a half or however long it takes and that that
however long it takes and that that little character lives in your head
little character lives in your head forever and she was about to start a
forever and she was about to start a movie that was kind of a
movie that was kind of a horrorishalloween
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back on what would be like a turn on turnoff technique like a t typical like
turnoff technique like a t typical like what is something like that uh building
what is something like that uh building that switch takes about three and a half
that switch takes about three and a half hours by itself to turn it on turn it
hours by itself to turn it on turn it off and we
off and we use how to word this the right way we I
use how to word this the right way we I use a very high stress technique uh
use a very high stress technique uh that's mentally very stressful uh but
that's mentally very stressful uh but that helps us to build that switch and
that helps us to build that switch and make it a because you know if if we have
make it a because you know if if we have a extremely stressful memory it becomes
a extremely stressful memory it becomes a physiological part of our brain not
a physiological part of our brain not just a psychological change okay so
just a psychological change okay so we're making physiological changes
we're making physiological changes throughout these four days that it takes
throughout these four days that it takes so like an example would be she reaches
so like an example would be she reaches across and like digs a finger into her
across and like digs a finger into her shoulder and says a two words that no
shoulder and says a two words that no human being will ever say together so
human being will ever say together so that there's no
that there's no accidental turn on yep
accidental turn on yep activation and then to to to kill it
activation and then to to to kill it like for that thing to be gone forever
like for that thing to be gone forever there's another similar potentially type
there's another similar potentially type of thing yeah it only actually takes
of thing yeah it only actually takes about 45 minutes to kill it but it's a
about 45 minutes to kill it but it's a one-on-one it's you in person I've never
one-on-one it's you in person I've never done it over Zoom just because I I very
done it over Zoom just because I I very much doubt the efficacy of hypnosis when
much doubt the efficacy of hypnosis when it's two-dimensional like through
it's two-dimensional like through Electronics maybe it works I don't I've
Electronics maybe it works I don't I've never done it how off like uh over the
never done it how off like uh over the course of the year how many different
course of the year how many different slots do you have available for
slots do you have available for something like that I see maybe five
something like that I see maybe five clients a year okay and it's a pretty
clients a year okay and it's a pretty big invoice yeah I assumed given just
big invoice yeah I assumed given just the and it's stressful for me and yeah
the and it's stressful for me and yeah how how do I hate it what do you do to
how how do I hate it what do you do to offload that experience for yourself
offload that experience for yourself because that is a lot of energy it's
because that is a lot of energy it's it's it's your it's tons putting uh
it's it's your it's tons putting uh someone
someone into seems like a a ton of duress and
into seems like a a ton of duress and you know like so do you have to in some
you know like so do you have to in some ways like almost disassociate while it's
ways like almost disassociate while it's happened like how do you how do you
happened like how do you how do you prepare yourself for that you've got to
prepare yourself for that you've got to be very Associated during the process
be very Associated during the process because like even while you're under
because like even while you're under hypnosis I'm watching I'm counting your
hypnosis I'm watching I'm counting your breaths per minute to watch for stress
breaths per minute to watch for stress markers I'm watching tiny Twitches in
markers I'm watching tiny Twitches in your fingers I'm watching whether your
your fingers I'm watching whether your eyes are moving to the right or to the
eyes are moving to the right or to the left and there's a thousand metrics that
left and there's a thousand metrics that I'm using to modify the next words that
I'm using to modify the next words that are coming out of my mouth so that it's
are coming out of my mouth so that it's the most customized tailored and perfect
the most customized tailored and perfect hypnosis session that any human could
hypnosis session that any human could ever have so it's like the end of like
ever have so it's like the end of like one of those days when I'm programming a
one of those days when I'm programming a it's programming a human being but there
it's programming a human being but there sweat like down to down to my belt yeah
sweat like down to down to my belt yeah just it's a stressful experience
just it's a stressful experience experience for me and at the end of
experience for me and at the end of those I'll usually do a little uh a
those I'll usually do a little uh a little journey yeah uh helps a
little journey yeah uh helps a lot methylene blue helps a lot to kind
lot methylene blue helps a lot to kind of maintain that level of focus
of maintain that level of focus throughout the
throughout the the that entire day yeah let's I didn't
the that entire day yeah let's I didn't get to ask but L like break down and
get to ask but L like break down and we've we've done it certainly we we'll
we've we've done it certainly we we'll refer back to when Dr John laurance has
refer back to when Dr John laurance has been on the podcast we talked about both
been on the podcast we talked about both methylene blue and and highd do
methylene blue and and highd do melatonin but just here kind of like
melatonin but just here kind of like your experience and your knowledge of
your experience and your knowledge of like why does methylene blue work and
like why does methylene blue work and I've and I've heard some
I've and I've heard some people um poo poo it because it's used
people um poo poo it because it's used to clean you know fish tanks and it's
to clean you know fish tanks and it's this you know they've they've had
this you know they've they've had reasons that it not to use it and I'm
reasons that it not to use it and I'm like I drink water and fish swim in it
like I drink water and fish swim in it there you go okay yeah it it it seems to
there you go okay yeah it it it seems to uh work you know so I don't really care
uh work you know so I don't really care what it used for otherwise but yeah what
what it used for otherwise but yeah what why does it work it works in fish tanks
why does it work it works in fish tanks because it works in
because it works in humans here we go it's now we're done
humans here we go it's now we're done yeah no but this this stuff was
yeah no but this this stuff was discovered in like 1890 this guy's
discovered in like 1890 this guy's trying to dye blue jeans and other stuff
trying to dye blue jeans and other stuff for the industrial revolutions going on
for the industrial revolutions going on these big textile mills making way more
these big textile mills making way more clothes than we're used to so this blue
clothes than we're used to so this blue Dy comes out and it's just meant to be a
Dy comes out and it's just meant to be a die initially and this this biologist
die initially and this this biologist scientist I think bioengineer or
scientist I think bioengineer or something who came up with it put it on
something who came up with it put it on a microscope slide and showed that it
a microscope slide and showed that it had what's called a neuronal Affinity
had what's called a neuronal Affinity which means that if you have a there's a
which means that if you have a there's a neuron or a brain cell on a microscope
neuron or a brain cell on a microscope slide you can watch the methylene blue
slide you can watch the methylene blue soak up into
soak up into neurons um and then he's like wow that's
neurons um and then he's like wow that's you know interesting so he shot up a
you know interesting so he shot up a couple of rats killed them sliced those
couple of rats killed them sliced those babies open the entire nervous system
babies open the entire nervous system was blue
was blue the whole thing every neuron the brain
the whole thing every neuron the brain brain stem spinal cord all those
brain stem spinal cord all those descending neurons going down through
descending neurons going down through the
the body which is just cool that's just cool
body which is just cool that's just cool to begin with because like if you did an
to begin with because like if you did an autopsy on me right now my brain's blue
autopsy on me right now my brain's blue my spinal cords blue all the nerves are
my spinal cords blue all the nerves are blue look at my hand yeah you've got
blue look at my hand yeah you've got you're on the road so it's a little hard
you're on the road so it's a little hard mine I took mine this morning I was very
mine I took mine this morning I was very careful with it yeah so some blue as
careful with it yeah so some blue as well I'm in a hotel but uh all right so
well I'm in a hotel but uh all right so let's start and so methylene blue has
let's start and so methylene blue has been proven to work for 120 years it's
been proven to work for 120 years it's not some new thing it's new on Instagram
not some new thing it's new on Instagram but it's not new yeah proven to work so
but it's not new yeah proven to work so somebody's poo pooing something that's
somebody's poo pooing something that's worked for was it used by the soldiers
worked for was it used by the soldiers and like for antimalarial yes okay
and like for antimalarial yes okay antimalarial antifungal
antimalarial antifungal antibacterial it's a miracle but the
antibacterial it's a miracle but the number one thing that methylene blue is
number one thing that methylene blue is at the top level is an MAOI so that's a
at the top level is an MAOI so that's a a monoamine oxidase inhibitor so which
a monoamine oxidase inhibitor so which means that it has anti-depressant
means that it has anti-depressant properties maois are used to treat
properties maois are used to treat depression but it also means that if I'm
depression but it also means that if I'm taking methylene blue regularly I have
taking methylene blue regularly I have to avoid stuff that's called tyr tyene
to avoid stuff that's called tyr tyene tyramine and this is the chemicals that
tyramine and this is the chemicals that you find in red wines and aged cheeses
you find in red wines and aged cheeses it could lead to something that's called
it could lead to something that's called a a hypertensive crisis but you don't
a a hypertensive crisis but you don't want to high dose methylene blue and eat
want to high dose methylene blue and eat a bunch of old cheese that's okay or
a bunch of old cheese that's okay or drink a bunch of red
drink a bunch of red one um so it acts as a free
one um so it acts as a free radical scavenger so neuronal Affinity
radical scavenger so neuronal Affinity free radical scavenger and a free
free radical scavenger and a free radical is an oxygen that doesn't have
radical is an oxygen that doesn't have two hydrogens on it so it's an oxygen
two hydrogens on it so it's an oxygen that's not water which means this oxygen
that's not water which means this oxygen just bouncing around your body sometimes
just bouncing around your body sometimes it's got a bunch of hydrogen on there
it's got a bunch of hydrogen on there sometimes just got one but balancing out
sometimes just got one but balancing out these oxygen molecules means I'm taking
these oxygen molecules means I'm taking it and I'm sticking to hydrogen's on it
it and I'm sticking to hydrogen's on it and then you you're peeing out that free
and then you you're peeing out that free radical so we have two main types of
radical so we have two main types of free radicals we have a reactive oxygen
free radicals we have a reactive oxygen species and reactive nitrogen species
species and reactive nitrogen species and methylene blue helps to balance
and methylene blue helps to balance those out so you can pee out and free
those out so you can pee out and free radicals
radicals are leading cause of inflammation in the
are leading cause of inflammation in the body leading cause of
body leading cause of sickness so on top of that this is kind
sickness so on top of that this is kind of the I'm giving you a thumbnail of
of the I'm giving you a thumbnail of what methylene blue does for sure it it
what methylene blue does for sure it it collects an electron from all of the
collects an electron from all of the these processes and donates an electron
these processes and donates an electron and so it acts as what's called an
and so it acts as what's called an electron donor to healthy mitochondria
electron donor to healthy mitochondria inside of your nervous system and those
inside of your nervous system and those electrons are what power our entire body
electrons are what power our entire body like we run on electrons and the
like we run on electrons and the mitochondri is electrons are spinning so
mitochondri is electrons are spinning so mitochondria used used this throughout a
mitochondria used used this throughout a process and there's an engine inside of
process and there's an engine inside of our mitochondria that's actually a
our mitochondria that's actually a rotary engine like a like the old Mazda
rotary engine like a like the old Mazda rotary engines it's it's except it's
rotary engines it's it's except it's more efficient it's like 98% efficiency
more efficient it's like 98% efficiency of this
of this engine and to go even
engine and to go even crazy a little bit
crazy a little bit deeper mitochondria aren't
deeper mitochondria aren't human I heard you say this on Danny's
human I heard you say this on Danny's podcast yeah they don't have human DNA
podcast yeah they don't have human DNA which is super bizarre so some
which is super bizarre so some relationship formed a long time ago uh
relationship formed a long time ago uh for that those to kind of be fused
for that those to kind of be fused together so gives ourselves more energy
together so gives ourselves more energy we make this thing ATP which is our
we make this thing ATP which is our cellular energy adenosine
cellular energy adenosine triphosphate
triphosphate and it it essentially does all kinds of
and it it essentially does all kinds of work throughout every part of your body
work throughout every part of your body and
and helps almost every process you can think
helps almost every process you can think of from digestion to respiration to your
of from digestion to respiration to your focus and concentration for depression
focus and concentration for depression for your skin how your skin looks and if
for your skin how your skin looks and if you're doing red light therapy you know
you're doing red light therapy you know this already mhm but methylene blue is
this already mhm but methylene blue is blue because it sucks up and absorbs red
blue because it sucks up and absorbs red photons and it bounces back blue photons
photons and it bounces back blue photons so if you're doing red light therapy
so if you're doing red light therapy with methylene blue you're like I'm
with methylene blue you're like I'm making this number up but it's like
making this number up but it's like 6000x uh return on investment if you're
6000x uh return on investment if you're getting red light into your nervous
getting red light into your nervous system and a good red light therapy
system and a good red light therapy machine will penetrate about 4 inches
machine will penetrate about 4 inches into your body and a really good one
into your body and a really good one will penetrate U two and a half through
will penetrate U two and a half through your skull
your skull I've got to take you next time you're in
I've got to take you next time you're in town I got to take you to a place called
town I got to take you to a place called matter it's a bow Wellness Lounge that
matter it's a bow Wellness Lounge that has so it's got John's got the midoan
has so it's got John's got the midoan helmet you seen I own one of course you
helmet you seen I own one of course you do so they got that well that's not as
do so they got that well that's not as novel anymore but uh they have a great
novel anymore but uh they have a great light bed and they have a bunch of like
light bed and they have a bunch of like hyper barracks and and and other toys
hyper barracks and and and other toys you ever heard of the theeta
you ever heard of the theeta chamber I bought one of those two you
chamber I bought one of those two you have a [ __ ] theeta chamber it hasn't
have a [ __ ] theeta chamber it hasn't been delivered yet it's a Theta bed this
been delivered yet it's a Theta bed this is a theeta chamber that spins yeah yeah
is a theeta chamber that spins yeah yeah I but just bought one do you have an
I but just bought one do you have an aortal too no I've never heard of that
aortal too no I've never heard of that well you'll probably get one of those
well you'll probably get one of those now I'll I tell you what I'll take you
now I'll I tell you what I'll take you over there you just go in a shopping
over there you just go in a shopping spree and we'll have everything
spree and we'll have everything delivered to your place uh but I will
delivered to your place uh but I will say man that I think methylene blue
say man that I think methylene blue is a trend and a fad right now and I
is a trend and a fad right now and I think that takes away from the
think that takes away from the seriousness of its benefits because
seriousness of its benefits because we're seeing lotss of idiot [ __ ]
we're seeing lotss of idiot [ __ ] using it like let me show make its
using it like let me show make its YouTube thumbnail with a blue tongue and
YouTube thumbnail with a blue tongue and oh yeah so I think that takes away
oh yeah so I think that takes away somebody sees that and they're like oh
somebody sees that and they're like oh it's a fad it's not real they they're
it's a fad it's not real they they're not realizing it's been around for like
not realizing it's been around for like 120 years and it's it's maybe in the top
120 years and it's it's maybe in the top five most proven drugs in human
five most proven drugs in human history pretty up there that's that's
history pretty up there that's that's along with willow bark probably up there
along with willow bark probably up there with willow bark and which is aspirin
with willow bark and which is aspirin okay aspirin is made from Willow Tree
okay aspirin is made from Willow Tree didn't know
didn't know that do you do the Troy or the
that do you do the Troy or the suppository for methylene yeah uh Troke
suppository for methylene yeah uh Troke yeah so I cut them up and I take three
yeah so I cut them up and I take three so I take about 140 milligrams a day
so I take about 140 milligrams a day methylene
methylene y it's good stuff and you've seen
y it's good stuff and you've seen efficacy in in others in your sphere
efficacy in in others in your sphere that have used it to heal my family my
that have used it to heal my family my friends
friends uh or or My across the street neighbor
uh or or My across the street neighbor where I live uh started taking it and
where I live uh started taking it and now was off of like seven different
now was off of like seven different prescription medications within a week
prescription medications within a week and she has some serious conditions
and she has some serious conditions another person that I gave it to who
another person that I gave it to who works uh at our house uh she has amalo
works uh at our house uh she has amalo dois what's that um it's a buildup of
dois what's that um it's a buildup of plaque and your organs and stuff your
plaque and your organs and stuff your breathing starts going crazy down she
breathing starts going crazy down she was breathing at
was breathing at 16% uh when she started working for us
16% uh when she started working for us and she's back above above 85 and her
and she's back above above 85 and her doctor said he had never seen those
doctor said he had never seen those results in 35 years of working with
results in 35 years of working with amalo dois patients and it's all all it
amalo dois patients and it's all all it was was methylene blue and I'm not
was was methylene blue and I'm not saying that I'm not a doctor I'm not
saying that I'm not a doctor I'm not telling you to take methylene blue you
telling you to take methylene blue you need to talk to a doctor
need to talk to a doctor um no absolutely not okay um but I I
um no absolutely not okay um but I I can't give medical advice don't want to
can't give medical advice don't want to give medical advice but but I hope
give medical advice but but I hope people look into it I have no you don't
people look into it I have no you don't have to use some affiliate link or
have to use some affiliate link or anything like that buy it from wherever
anything like that buy it from wherever the hell you want to buy it from U but
the hell you want to buy it from U but at least look into it because it it can
at least look into it because it it can save somebody's life and it can reverse
save somebody's life and it can reverse a lot of damage that's going on in our
a lot of damage that's going on in our bodies it made my brain better that is
bodies it made my brain better that is the most fascinating thing I've heard
the most fascinating thing I've heard and
and and like with regards to
and like with regards to that where is your your kind of need to
that where is your your kind of need to write where does that sit right now it's
write where does that sit right now it's not really there how does that feel uh
not really there how does that feel uh for anyone out there with temporal
for anyone out there with temporal epilepsy it'll be slightly offensive for
epilepsy it'll be slightly offensive for me to say what I'm about to say um I
me to say what I'm about to say um I miss parts of having T uhhuh I miss
miss parts of having T uhhuh I miss pieces of it uh and they call temporal
pieces of it uh and they call temporal epilepsy the sacred disease uh for very
epilepsy the sacred disease uh for very good reason like ancient Mystics and
good reason like ancient Mystics and stuff would think that they were getting
stuff would think that they were getting these visions and who knows what what it
these visions and who knows what what it is but I lost that need to write and
is but I lost that need to write and sometimes I miss those
sometimes I miss those seizures because it felt like I was
seizures because it felt like I was getting access to it may just all be in
getting access to it may just all be in my head but it felt like I was kind of
my head but it felt like I was kind of getting access to some layer of reality
getting access to some layer of reality that other people can't access yeah I
that other people can't access yeah I think that makes sense yeah do do
think that makes sense yeah do do you do you miss the because I'm
you do you miss the because I'm imagining I've never had it obviously
imagining I've never had it obviously but the I have been inspired to write or
but the I have been inspired to write or do whatever it is and so like the
do whatever it is and so like the energetics of that I know when I'm in
energetics of that I know when I'm in that space and in that i' say flow does
that space and in that i' say flow does it feel like a complete Flow State when
it feel like a complete Flow State when you're writing or is it
you're writing or is it different is it more like [ __ ] I want to
different is it more like [ __ ] I want to stop but like I mean like what is the is
stop but like I mean like what is the is it like a flow State yeah I feel like a
it like a flow State yeah I feel like a normal person would respond to having to
normal person would respond to having to sit down and write and I write every day
sit down and write and I write every day from 4:00 am. to 11:00 a.m.
from 4:00 am. to 11:00 a.m. without fail and that's seven days a
without fail and that's seven days a week so I'm still there writing so I
week so I'm still there writing so I think there's still a lot of Jes BR H
think there's still a lot of Jes BR H God I still like writing a lot I'll say
God I still like writing a lot I'll say so what types of what's what's uh what's
so what types of what's what's uh what's top of mine for you lately what are you
top of mine for you lately what are you interested in I'm writing a book right
interested in I'm writing a book right now called exit a user's guide to the
now called exit a user's guide to the simulation and the whole thing is about
simulation and the whole thing is about how to there's three ways days to hack a
how to there's three ways days to hack a video
video game um so I talked man this is going to
game um so I talked man this is going to sound like we're going off the deep in
sound like we're going off the deep in oh [ __ ] yeah do this is the goods so I
oh [ __ ] yeah do this is the goods so I hired have you heard of uh II they make
hired have you heard of uh II they make video games it's a bit big video game
video games it's a bit big video game company I talked to one of these
company I talked to one of these designers that designs video games and I
designers that designs video games and I talked about like there's a way there's
talked about like there's a way there's people on YouTube that just make
people on YouTube that just make videos on how to like so let's say this
videos on how to like so let's say this neighborhood is a video game where we're
neighborhood is a video game where we're at right now but the map of this game
at right now but the map of this game ends at that house over there okay like
ends at that house over there okay like once you get to the backyard you're just
once you get to the backyard you're just your character's just like running on
your character's just like running on the wall right yeah I want to go over
the wall right yeah I want to go over that wall in video games and these
that wall in video games and these people on YouTube dedicated for all
people on YouTube dedicated for all kinds of games how to get out how to
kinds of games how to get out how to hack your way out of the map so you can
hack your way out of the map so you can go explore this out of bounds area where
go explore this out of bounds area where you're not supposed to
you're not supposed to go uh and I don't know why but I got
go uh and I don't know why but I got obsessed with watching these videos my
obsessed with watching these videos my son and I play this game called Hitman I
son and I play this game called Hitman I don't know if you ever heard of I'm not
don't know if you ever heard of I'm not familiar with it oh my God it's cool
familiar with it oh my God it's cool there's like 16 million ways to kill
there's like 16 million ways to kill this target as a Hitman in a in the
this target as a Hitman in a in the video game for and you can't none of
video game for and you can't none of them are ever the same it's we'll get
them are ever the same it's we'll get into it
into it but um so they make these compilations
but um so they make these compilations online of like these different ways that
online of like these different ways that people are getting out of the game so
people are getting out of the game so there's these different levels of number
there's these different levels of number one can I
one can I see can I look deeply into the area
see can I look deeply into the area where I'm not supposed to be number one
where I'm not supposed to be number one number two Can I exit the playable
number two Can I exit the playable area level three Can I exit the map
area level three Can I exit the map entirely like can I just fall through
entirely like can I just fall through the floor which you can in a lot of
the floor which you can in a lot of these video games you find the right
these video games you find the right combination of whatever and you can drop
combination of whatever and you can drop through and you're look you kind of look
through and you're look you kind of look up and you can see the entire map from
up and you can see the entire map from underneath like the skeletons of all the
underneath like the skeletons of all the buildings and the streets and whatever
buildings and the streets and whatever you were walking on and just falling
you were walking on and just falling eternally the game Never Kills you
eternally the game Never Kills you you're eternally falling in this
you're eternally falling in this Blackness watching that little 3D City
Blackness watching that little 3D City just disappear above you uh so that's
just disappear above you uh so that's level
level three level four could be can I get out
three level four could be can I get out of this game so if I'm in Hitman can I
of this game so if I'm in Hitman can I make my little Hitman guy jump out of
make my little Hitman guy jump out of that game and crawl into the Call of
that game and crawl into the Call of Duty world and play Call of
Duty world and play Call of Duty and level five is Can I exit the
console you know what I'm saying so according to Chas Hughes
saying so according to Chas Hughes anyway those are the five levels of
anyway those are the five levels of exiting that you can do in a video game
exiting that you can do in a video game so I tried to find all of the cories
so I tried to find all of the cories that were possible and the mental exit
that were possible and the mental exit is like the first real step like being
is like the first real step like being aware of all of the boundaries of this
aware of all of the boundaries of this little video game and being aware what
little video game and being aware what is fake and what's real and that's step
is fake and what's real and that's step one like that wall is fake I can walk
one like that wall is fake I can walk through it in a video game but in
through it in a video game but in reality I'm starting to realize what
reality I'm starting to realize what parts are actually simulated and it's
parts are actually simulated and it's not some digital simulation there's this
not some digital simulation there's this French philosopher who wrote a book
French philosopher who wrote a book called uh Sim Locka and simulation his
called uh Sim Locka and simulation his name is uh John
name is uh John bodard and he's talking about Walmart is
bodard and he's talking about Walmart is a simulation of a market that our
a simulation of a market that our ancestors would use it's
ancestors would use it's pretend there pictures on the packaging
pretend there pictures on the packaging are a simulation of what's inside and we
are a simulation of what's inside and we know that it doesn't represent reality
know that it doesn't represent reality we go to Burger King and we see a burger
we go to Burger King and we see a burger on the menu we know that that's a
on the menu we know that that's a simulated Burger that's not going to
simulated Burger that's not going to represent reality then you get to hyper
represent reality then you get to hyper reality where you go to like a place
reality where you go to like a place like Disney World where there are people
like Disney World where there are people simulating
simulating a simulation of a Disney character that
a simulation of a Disney character that H is simulating something that has no
H is simulating something that has no original so it's a simulation of a
original so it's a simulation of a simulation of a simulation where there
simulation of a simulation where there is no original that it's pointing
is no original that it's pointing backward to okay and the entirety of
backward to okay and the entirety of Disney World is a simulation of
Disney World is a simulation of cities but it's made to be better than
cities but it's made to be better than reality so it's full of simulations some
reality so it's full of simulations some are
are simulacra which have no origin like I'm
simulacra which have no origin like I'm I'm pointing to nothing mhm and some are
I'm pointing to nothing mhm and some are simulation which is like this street
simulation which is like this street looks like Germany except it's
looks like Germany except it's better and now that's they call that
better and now that's they call that hyper reality and this is we're not even
hyper reality and this is we're not even talking about digital yet we're already
talking about digital yet we're already in a simulation so much of our lives are
in a simulation so much of our lives are simulated it it's a thing that points at
simulated it it's a thing that points at a thing that points at a thing uh and we
a thing that points at a thing uh and we can go into that for hours but it's
can go into that for hours but it's that's a lot of what the book is about
that's a lot of what the book is about like becoming hyper aware of how to
like becoming hyper aware of how to locate reality when everything is
locate reality when everything is starting to become more and more
starting to become more and more artificial and
artificial and fake how long you been working on this
fake how long you been working on this two
two years how where where do you feel like
years how where where do you feel like you are in the completion it's done yeah
you are in the completion it's done yeah I'm just waiting on editors to kind of
I'm just waiting on editors to kind of finish up now and it's short it's a
finish up now and it's short it's a short book it's a maybe a three four
short book it's a maybe a three four hour read oh no [ __ ] yeah which is like
hour read oh no [ __ ] yeah which is like me you've seen like some of the books
me you've seen like some of the books I've written yeah um yeah I'm I'm really
I've written yeah um yeah I'm I'm really happy about it it's and that's what
happy about it it's and that's what we're naming the retreat after and this
we're naming the retreat after and this is going to be the exit Retreat and the
is going to be the exit Retreat and the exit book kind of go hand inand and the
exit book kind of go hand inand and the only way to get a copy of the book is to
only way to get a copy of the book is to attend one of the Retreats oh no [ __ ]
attend one of the Retreats oh no [ __ ] it's like a secret guy yeah [ __ ] yeah I
it's like a secret guy yeah [ __ ] yeah I like it by the way uh I love that you
like it by the way uh I love that you didn't realize how how this isn't
didn't realize how how this isn't necessarily close to where you were
necessarily close to where you were staying you're like I'm going to get a
staying you're like I'm going to get a driver whatever was like where are you
driver whatever was like where are you staying I was 20 minutes away and it
staying I was 20 minutes away and it gave us an opportunity to drop in yeah
gave us an opportunity to drop in yeah on the car ride so I love that and U we
on the car ride so I love that and U we did Cover a decent amount in the car
did Cover a decent amount in the car ride I will leave you five stars by the
ride I will leave you five stars by the way I appreciate yeah I was a little bit
way I appreciate yeah I was a little bit late but it was traffic I I did the best
late but it was traffic I I did the best I could I you know broke a few traffic
I could I you know broke a few traffic laws uh but one of the things that we
laws uh but one of the things that we talked about
talked about that is is really um has come up for me
that is is really um has come up for me recently and I think will will land with
recently and I think will will land with a lot of
a lot of people um is this idea of we can call it
people um is this idea of we can call it cognitive dissonance
cognitive dissonance but you know I had kind of shared uh a
but you know I had kind of shared uh a meme about us Aid on you know how
meme about us Aid on you know how they're there's a ton of corruption the
they're there's a ton of corruption the Dr Evil one and it was basically like
Dr Evil one and it was basically like we're going to like piss away all this
we're going to like piss away all this money we'll call it foreign AE and yeah
money we'll call it foreign AE and yeah um I had I I had some a friend that I
um I had I I had some a friend that I used to work with who unbe know to me
used to work with who unbe know to me actually works for for the
actually works for for the organization and wow yeah and so
organization and wow yeah and so he's uh doing great work with them and I
he's uh doing great work with them and I don't doubt that like going to these
don't doubt that like going to these Villages and treating babies with HIV
Villages and treating babies with HIV and you know I could argue like well
and you know I could argue like well where do we think they got the HIV from
where do we think they got the HIV from but that's you know whatever here and or
but that's you know whatever here and or there and he was really upset with that
there and he was really upset with that because of the work that he's doing in
because of the work that he's doing in in in part of my response in not only
in in part of my response in not only acknowledging the amazing work he's
acknowledging the amazing work he's doing was like I would have hope that
doing was like I would have hope that you would want to root out any
you would want to root out any corruption that is in within that
corruption that is in within that organization because it's a bad look for
organization because it's a bad look for the amazing work that is being done in
the amazing work that is being done in some areas and shouldn't that be
some areas and shouldn't that be Universal you would hope
Universal you would hope and so if I if you are if I could go
and so if I if you are if I could go ahead
ahead I if if a person's listening right now
I if if a person's listening right now you're upset about the election or you
you're upset about the election or you love the election either one if you're
love the election either one if you're unable to find
unable to find good in something that's in an political
good in something that's in an political opponent or if you're unable to see
opponent or if you're unable to see something bad in a politician that you
something bad in a politician that you support something's wrong something has
support something's wrong something has occurred in your bra bra where there's
occurred in your bra bra where there's been a a transition and it's okay to
been a a transition and it's okay to admit it I'm I'm an expert in this stuff
admit it I'm I'm an expert in this stuff and I'm just as susceptible to anybody
and I'm just as susceptible to anybody like me learning about it does not
like me learning about it does not vaccinate me
vaccinate me from I don't have some immunity to it we
from I don't have some immunity to it we all have to admit that we're capable of
all have to admit that we're capable of being
being manipulated and it it hearkens back to
manipulated and it it hearkens back to this book uh the book is called when
this book uh the book is called when prophecy fails the author's name is
prophecy fails the author's name is escaping me right now but it's a it's a
escaping me right now but it's a it's a psychologist who studied this cult and
psychologist who studied this cult and the cult
the cult was wild crazy cult but they said on
was wild crazy cult but they said on this exact day the Earth is going to
this exact day the Earth is going to explode or end and aliens are coming and
explode or end and aliens are coming and aliens are going to like destroy the
aliens are going to like destroy the world and all this crazy
world and all this crazy stuff and all the colon had a lot of
stuff and all the colon had a lot of followers hundreds and hundreds maybe
followers hundreds and hundreds maybe thousands and this day comes
thousands and this day comes the day finally comes that the aliens
the day finally comes that the aliens are going to show up and destroy the
are going to show up and destroy the world no aliens the world doesn't blow
world no aliens the world doesn't blow up nothing
up nothing happens so we would think like oh the
happens so we would think like oh the Cults half of the members are going to
Cults half of the members are going to say F you I'm out of here I'm leaving
say F you I'm out of here I'm leaving this is stupid the cult leader is going
this is stupid the cult leader is going to feel like an
to feel like an idiot um you know all these things that
idiot um you know all these things that we imagine might happen in a situation
we imagine might happen in a situation like this and in
like this and in reality all of them doubled down they
reality all of them doubled down they doubled down on their beliefs because
doubled down on their beliefs because they they were entrenched in who they
they they were entrenched in who they were as as human beings they they
were as as human beings they they adopted a belief not from an idea but an
adopted a belief not from an idea but an identity so if you're ever watching ever
identity so if you're ever watching ever watching the news always pay attention
watching the news always pay attention to am I being sold on Identity or ideas
to am I being sold on Identity or ideas those are the two different Pathways to
those are the two different Pathways to convey
convey information so like I know you that
information so like I know you that you're a good person so you're going to
you're a good person so you're going to probably believe what I'm about to say
probably believe what I'm about to say that's that's an exaggerated way of
that's that's an exaggerated way of talking about it but that's that's what
talking about it but that's that's what selling you on identity is who because
selling you on identity is who because of who you are
of who you are so um they doubled down and they even
so um they doubled down and they even went so far as to
went so far as to say the Earth didn't explode the aliens
say the Earth didn't explode the aliens didn't show up because we prayed so hard
didn't show up because we prayed so hard it's because of our faith and it's
it's because of our faith and it's because of our integrity you're welcome
because of our integrity you're welcome Planet so
Planet so uh just like those Hermits in that cave
uh just like those Hermits in that cave holding it down yeah it's that's some
holding it down yeah it's that's some commitment serious commitment yeah but I
commitment serious commitment yeah but I would say there being in a cult is not
would say there being in a cult is not always bad some Cults are good uh one of
always bad some Cults are good uh one of them I was a part of a cult one time
them I was a part of a cult one time called the United States military where
called the United States military where I go through an indoctrination program
I go through an indoctrination program where they shave your head and kind of
where they shave your head and kind of you go through full full
you go through full full indoctrination and you're all about it
indoctrination and you're all about it when you graduate boot camper you're
when you graduate boot camper you're like I am it I am I am a US Navy sailor
like I am it I am I am a US Navy sailor now I'm part of the Navy and that's kind
now I'm part of the Navy and that's kind of a cult some Cults are good some Cults
of a cult some Cults are good some Cults instill values and morals but some of
instill values and morals but some of them you you can accidentally join a
them you you can accidentally join a cult Without Really knowing it and it's
cult Without Really knowing it and it's not a cult that's an organization with a
not a cult that's an organization with a real leader it's a cult of
real leader it's a cult of identity and if I've made so many
identity and if I've made so many agreements that I support this person
agreements that I support this person now I support this side so it goes from
now I support this side so it goes from like I like this idea I like this um
like I like this idea I like this um person now I'm adopting this belief and
person now I'm adopting this belief and now me having this belief makes me a
now me having this belief makes me a certain type of person so now it's about
certain type of person so now it's about identity I am morally Superior I'm
identity I am morally Superior I'm intellectually Superior because I have
intellectually Superior because I have these ideas that's dangerous that's very
these ideas that's dangerous that's very very dangerous and the greatest and this
very dangerous and the greatest and this is coming from the guy who
is coming from the guy who teaches Sops and and brainwashing and
teaches Sops and and brainwashing and stuff the greatest deception in modern
stuff the greatest deception in modern history is convincing people that issues
history is convincing people that issues are about left or right or conservative
are about left or right or conservative versus liberal or democrat versus
versus liberal or democrat versus Republican it's not we just like let's
Republican it's not we just like let's go let's use this example of us
go let's use this example of us Aid uh I got called onto the news uh two
Aid uh I got called onto the news uh two days ago to comment on the stuff that's
days ago to comment on the stuff that's going on like what's the behavior behind
going on like what's the behavior behind all of this and they're raiding this
all of this and they're raiding this usaid building and these U Democratic
usaid building and these U Democratic mostly Democratic Congress people out
mostly Democratic Congress people out there screaming and yelling and
there screaming and yelling and protesting and saying they're destroying
protesting and saying they're destroying the country and all this stuff they're
the country and all this stuff they're asking me to comment on this and they're
asking me to comment on this and they're like because they're it's a narrative
like because they're it's a narrative based media right so it's they have a
based media right so it's they have a they have a narrative and they're asking
they have a narrative and they're asking me to go down that narrative and it's a
me to go down that narrative and it's a left versus right narrative which
left versus right narrative which doesn't exist it does not exist I
doesn't exist it does not exist I promise you it does not exist and the
promise you it does not exist and the more you learn about psychology
more you learn about psychology brainwashing and behavior the more you
brainwashing and behavior the more you realize that is an illusion it's an
realize that is an illusion it's an illusion so what I said to this news
illusion so what I said to this news anchor was that you're focusing all
anchor was that you're focusing all these people that are screaming and loud
these people that are screaming and loud and protesting and that's great cuz when
and protesting and that's great cuz when corruption is being pointed out and
corruption is being pointed out and people are screaming about it that might
people are screaming about it that might be where you need to focus some
be where you need to focus some attention maybe they're upset about
attention maybe they're upset about these babies that are saved I'm sure
these babies that are saved I'm sure there's some programs that got cut that
there's some programs that got cut that were beneficial
were beneficial positive um but you have to be able to
positive um but you have to be able to see that from both sides there's good
see that from both sides there's good and there's bad if you can't see good
and there's bad if you can't see good and bad something is wrong you need that
and bad something is wrong you need that needs to set off a huge alarm in your
needs to set off a huge alarm in your head
head but they focus on all these people
but they focus on all these people screaming and throwing fits and stuff
screaming and throwing fits and stuff but what about on the other side of the
but what about on the other side of the aisle you need to focus on the people
aisle you need to focus on the people that are very quiet that all of a sudden
that are very quiet that all of a sudden something changed and they just got very
something changed and they just got very very quiet and that is that's the truth
very quiet and that is that's the truth so this is true this is true but where's
so this is true this is true but where's the
the truth so there's two things that are
truth so there's two things that are true right can I see good can I see bad
true right can I see good can I see bad and do I realize that the greatest
and do I realize that the greatest deception that I will never fall for
deception that I will never fall for again we make that agreement I will
again we make that agreement I will never fall for this again in believing
never fall for this again in believing that everything is about right versus
that everything is about right versus left there's good in both there's bad in
left there's good in both there's bad in both and if you can't see it something
both and if you can't see it something is
is wrong we're at time brother all right
wrong we're at time brother all right and that's perfect
and that's perfect ending all right where can people find
ending all right where can people find you
you uh type me into Google or NCI is the
uh type me into Google or NCI is the system that I teach neurocognitive
system that I teach neurocognitive intelligence okay NCI do University and
intelligence okay NCI do University and um and your YouTube's linked to that or
um and your YouTube's linked to that or like yeah YouTube YouTube following yeah
like yeah YouTube YouTube following yeah yeah okay we've got a huge YouTube
yeah okay we've got a huge YouTube following and I've got a YouTube channel
following and I've got a YouTube channel of my own that helps to expose scops and
of my own that helps to expose scops and shows you how to do a lot of these
shows you how to do a lot of these techniques one step by step and I've
techniques one step by step and I've even got some stuff there to help you
even got some stuff there to help you start unzipping that little ego costume
start unzipping that little ego costume hell yeah save me a spot in that Austin
hell yeah save me a spot in that Austin retreat we'll do man I'm so in dude this
retreat we'll do man I'm so in dude this has been epic it's fun you're yeah
has been epic it's fun you're yeah you're rad man so fun yeah I can't wait
you're rad man so fun yeah I can't wait can't wait to see you again do another
can't wait to see you again do another one and just yeah get to know you better
one and just yeah get to know you better so thanks brother yeah thanks for having
so thanks brother yeah thanks for having me on yeah hell yeah
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