0:00 the US economy and financial system is
0:02 the leader globally in laundering dirty
0:04 money i said to this wonderful group
0:06 let's pretend there's a big red button
0:08 up here on the lectern and if you push
0:10 that button you can stop all hard
0:12 narcotics trafficking tomorrow who here
0:15 will push the button and out of a 100
0:17 people dedicated to evolving our society
0:19 spiritually guess how many would push
0:20 the button i don't know one you
0:23 suggested the control grid is in part
0:25 designed to manage the population so if
0:28 you want to move people to a much lower
0:30 economic footprint having complete
0:32 control is obviously very convenient
0:34 okay so the bottom line is the majority
0:35 is about to get a lot poorer so the
0:37 question is where is all this money
0:38 going and one of the things I've looked
0:40 at is the underground base and city
0:43 infrastructure and transportation system
0:45 that's been built what would be the
0:47 purpose i think if you're worried about
0:49 a near extinction event
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1:12 so thank you for doing this um you get
1:14 and I know you've worked on this for
1:16 years but you get the sense if you're
1:17 just a sort of aware person that there
1:20 is a concerted attempt by governments
1:22 around the world to digitize
1:25 commerce and to digitize currency and to
1:29 basically control people through money
1:33 correct that correct okay so that was my
1:36 first question is this happening am I
1:37 imagining it it's absolutely happening
1:39 and what's important to understand it's
1:41 been happening for a long time in other
1:44 words this is like
1:45 a an invisible corral that's that
1:49 they've been building around you for a
1:51 long long time because the you know how
1:53 do a few sneak up on the many well you
1:55 have to do it very quietly and visibly
1:57 before you throw the trap so so
2:00 essentially what they're building
2:02 because it's converting a currency
2:04 system into a control system so it's
2:06 really the end of currency and and what
2:09 they're doing is they've been building
2:11 the different digital pieces and when it
2:14 integrates and comes together then you
2:17 literally have a digital concentration
2:19 camp it's complete and utter control
2:21 otherwise known as the world it's here's
2:24 the thing to understand we you and I
2:26 grew up in a world where there was mass
2:28 media where you were pitching stories
2:30 you know so you had 57 varieties of ice
2:33 cream and you're pitching them to 57
2:35 different niches but you're still
2:37 pitching to mass audiences what we're
2:39 talking about is a system where you can
2:43 surveil control and influence one person
2:47 at a time and with AI and software each
2:50 person can have their custom
2:52 surveillance influence nudging and
2:54 control system and punishment yes
2:58 enforcement because ultimately if you
2:59 control money you can starve people to
3:01 death you can kill them right so go back
3:04 and think of the pandemic so if I say
3:07 you can't go more than a mile from your
3:09 home and I say you can't you have to be
3:14 mandated a pharmaceutical then if you
3:16 don't take the pharmaceutical I can turn
3:19 off your money if you go more than a
3:21 mile away from your home your money and
3:23 your credit cards won't work so if you
3:26 know whatever rules I lay down there's a
3:28 wonderful uh wonderful example the head
3:32 of the bank of international settlements
3:34 is the central bank of central banks and
3:37 it's been running the process to
3:39 implement
3:40 basically an all digital monetary system
3:44 and they have innovation hubs all over
3:46 the world they've been running this
3:47 process for a long time and in 2020 when
3:50 the pandemic started or it was October
3:52 2020 so the pandem pandemic was underway
3:55 the general manager of the Bank of
3:58 International Settlements was on an IMF
4:00 panel and in one minute it's first time
4:03 in my life I ever saw a central banker
4:05 tell the truth i fell off my chair and
4:07 he said "You know the beauty of this is
4:11 we can set the rules on how your money
4:15 works and we have the technology to
4:17 enforce them." And what he was saying is
4:22 literally from one place in you know
4:25 anywhere in the world where the
4:27 technology exists you can track each
4:30 person individually you can set a a
4:32 complex list of rules you know like
4:35 legislation regulation and
4:37 administrative policy and you can
4:39 enforce them all with a technology with
4:42 AI and software so have you ever seen
4:44 there's a wonderful movie called the um
4:47 the lives of others about the German
4:49 Stazzy and surveillance it's about a
4:51 group of artists and sort of creative
4:53 talented people who are under
4:55 surveillance by the German Stazzy and
4:57 you see what it's like to be under
4:59 surveillance for
5:01 24/7 think of each one of us we're all
5:04 under surveillance not just by
5:06 governments but by corporations who are
5:09 trying to do something and it may not be
5:11 anything nefarious so 80 different
5:14 companies are trying to sell you
5:15 something or 80 different companies are
5:18 trying to get your data for some reason
5:21 and and so they have AI and software
5:23 bots that track you and follow you and
5:26 learn from you and try and influence
5:28 what you do because they're trying to
5:29 extract some kind of value from you and
5:32 literally think of you know being
5:34 attacked by a swarm of bees we're
5:37 surrounded now by a swarm of AI software
5:40 bots all trying to learn from us extract
5:45 something from us or get us to do
5:46 something now when you go to an all
5:48 digital system then there's no escape
5:52 and then they can start literally to
5:54 enforce rules they do now so So what are
5:57 the um manifestations of this that maybe
6:00 we're not paying attention to or don't
6:02 perceive for what they are so look at
6:04 what they did to the Canadian truckers
6:06 we don't like what you're doing we cut
6:08 off your money and we cut off your
6:09 friends money and if people help you we
6:11 cut off their money too so I've had I've
6:14 known so many different people around
6:16 the country who've been debbanked we
6:17 just got legislation passed in Tennessee
6:20 that a bank over a certain size couldn't
6:22 debank someone for political or
6:23 religious reasons you know and and you
6:26 you're one of the things that's
6:27 happening there's no such federal law
6:30 not that I know of but I haven't look
6:31 I've been working with the states
6:33 because ultimately the the one power
6:37 currently under the Constitution in the
6:40 United States that can stop this the
6:43 powers not delegated to the federal
6:44 government by the states are reserved to
6:47 the states in other words the states are
6:49 technically more powerful than the
6:51 federal government and under the
6:53 Constitution they have the power to
6:56 override the federal government on many
6:58 different issues including healthcare
7:00 and so one of the tensions we see in
7:04 America is more and more there is a
7:06 debate between the feds and and the
7:09 states about who has what power so we've
7:11 seen all a lot of the conservative AGs
7:14 and um treasurers pushing back in a in a
7:18 wonderful way in a marvelous way um the
7:21 challenge they have is this and this was
7:24 said to me by a senator in Northern Ohio
7:26 northern Ohio has one of the best groups
7:28 of sort of freedom fighting legislators
7:31 in the country and as you probably know
7:33 because you know Montana it's very
7:35 beautiful and um you talk about Montana
7:38 uh Idaho Idaho okay so so but it's right
7:40 you know it's right next to Montana so
7:42 one of the Idaho senators said to me he
7:44 said my problem every time I fight to
7:47 implement the
7:48 constitution he said what I learn is
7:52 that every year we send a dollar to
7:53 Washington and every year Washington
7:56 sends back
7:57 $1.19 and when I say I want to implement
7:59 the Constitution my constituents say to
8:01 me I'd rather have the 19
8:04 so what we've been watching literally
8:06 since World War II is the federal
8:09 government and a very you know large s
8:13 both monetary and fiscal policy buying
8:16 people out of the constitution and
8:19 buying the whole federal I mean the
8:20 federal government is right now so
8:22 operating so far outside the law it's
8:24 you know you know how unbelievable it is
8:27 so that's the challenge before us if we
8:30 want to be
8:31 free you know we're going to have to
8:34 decide we're not going to let ourselves
8:36 be you know it's it's like being um sort
8:39 of walked into the slaughter house we're
8:41 not going to walk into the slaughter
8:42 house and but you don't even I I guess
8:44 what bothers me about it there's
8:46 something wonderfully straightforward
8:49 horrifying but wonderfully
8:50 straightforward about just a
8:51 conventional invasion where people show
8:52 up with guns and tell you what to do
8:54 because at least you know who the enemy
8:55 is but there's something
8:57 very scary in an insidious way about
9:01 being lulled into slavery right and the
9:04 thing to understand about the lulling is
9:06 the lulling the marketing plan works one
9:09 person at a time in other words you know
9:12 you I buy with money your friend I buy
9:15 by knocking them off or the other you
9:17 know your other friend I I get a control
9:19 file on so there are thousands of
9:22 different ways of nudging buying carrots
9:25 and sticks to get everybody into the
9:27 control into into the trap and and what
9:31 is so insidious about this is much of
9:34 the marketing plan is invisible and it's
9:37 and it really is crafted one by one uh
9:40 the odds seem overwhelming against the
9:42 average person in a system that you just
9:44 described so um how far are we from not
9:48 being able to exercise constitutional
9:51 freedoms so I don't know how many years
9:55 they're clearly pushing to have this
9:57 done by 2030
9:59 and you know what I do have to say is if
10:02 you look at what it takes to stop it I
10:05 believe they're going to fail now what I
10:08 don't underestimate is how much damage
10:10 they could do and the you know the
10:12 failure may not come in time to save
10:14 America so if we could just stop and
10:16 define terms who is they uh I the
10:20 central bankers yes right so we we have
10:24 a democratic republic or we have a
10:26 republic and use this democratic
10:28 process what happened in 1913 is the
10:32 bankers took control of monetary policy
10:34 what they're trying to do now is take
10:36 control of fiscal policy once they get
10:39 control of fiscal policy it's going to
10:40 be much harder to reverse it can you um
10:43 I'm going to ask a series of really dumb
10:45 questions i hope you'll indulge me
10:47 what's the difference taxation without
10:49 representation but between fiscal and
10:51 monetary policies okay monetary policy
10:53 is I control the process by which
10:57 currency is issued including through
10:59 credit so so I generally govern and
11:02 control credit issuance yes and and and
11:06 from that the currency the creation and
11:08 management of the currency fiscal policy
11:11 is one I control the taxes and the
11:13 borrowing of the US government now
11:15 because the central bank
11:18 basically operates the borrowing you
11:21 know it's the the borrowing shared but
11:23 this comes down as the you know this is
11:26 the Boston Tea Party moment can they tax
11:28 without representation so I'll give you
11:31 a little story during the Biden
11:33 administration Biden nominated somebody
11:36 for control of currency who was
11:38 ultimately not approved uh the
11:40 Republicans in the Senate killed uh the
11:43 nomination before she was nominated
11:45 three weeks before she wrote an article
11:47 in the Vanderbilt Law Review that said
11:49 "The great thing about central bank
11:51 digital currency," in other words an all
11:52 digital currency system is you have the
11:56 perfect tool to deal with inflation if
11:58 inflation gets out of hand you just
11:59 freeze everybody's bank accounts
12:03 nice right right right you know so it
12:07 it's it's um so in inflation is a
12:11 creation of monetary it's the effect of
12:13 monetary policy it's like something that
12:15 somebody did to you well there are two
12:18 things that cause inflation so one is
12:20 monetary policy uh uh managing monetary
12:24 policy in a way that creates in monetary
12:27 inflation but you also have and we're
12:30 going through it now what I call del
12:32 globalization where you have real
12:34 increases in the cost of goods so my
12:37 cost of goods are going up and it's not
12:39 because they're issuing you know too
12:41 much currency relative to growth it's
12:44 because we are reversing globalization
12:47 globalization created a whole lot of
12:50 lower costs for a variety of reasons so
12:52 if you had severing of supply chains for
12:54 example that would cause inflation
12:55 because it just costs more to get the
12:56 materials and the goods right and and
12:59 it's not just higher prices it's you
13:02 know some products a lot of products
13:04 stop being economic and just go away so
13:07 you know when you hiccup supply chains
13:10 especially if you do it by shock
13:12 doctrine or shock and all which is what
13:14 we're watching now you know it wrecks
13:16 havoc so think of it like a a a flotilla
13:21 of ships that need to turn if the
13:23 aircraft carrier doesn't let everybody
13:25 know they're turning then the the boats
13:27 aren't ready to turn and you have boats
13:29 smashing into each other you sink a lot
13:30 of ships doing that you sink a lot of
13:32 ships
13:33 um so leaving aside whether that was
13:36 wise or not that's what we're doing
13:37 right um so you get inflation out of
13:40 that of course you're absolutely right
13:41 if if oil prices go up you get inflation
13:42 cuz right and that deglobalization
13:44 started in the financial crisis so you
13:48 know so it's accelerating now but it's
13:50 not that we just started it how did it
13:53 start during in 2008 yes yes cuz why
13:57 because for several reasons but one is
14:01 we were trying to exercise more and more
14:03 control through the dollar system and
14:06 we've always exercised a lot of power
14:08 and control and and extracted a subsidy
14:11 from the dollar system but you have more
14:13 and more people trying to get out of the
14:15 system and um the financial crisis that
14:19 first the Asian crisis in 97 was a real
14:22 wake up to Asia you know you you need to
14:25 create more resiliency but more and more
14:28 things happened and then in 2008 it
14:30 started to accelerate with the creation
14:32 of the you know as the bricks started to
14:35 organize and work to sort of pull out of
14:37 the idea was you've got a world economy
14:40 based on the dollar the people who issue
14:42 and administer the dollar are not
14:44 running things responsibly therefore we
14:46 need a separate safe haven there the
14:50 people running the dollar system want a
14:52 unipolar model yeah the US wants a
14:55 unipolar model and we don't want to be
14:57 part of a unipolar model because we
14:59 don't want if you look at the level of
15:01 subsidy they're
15:03 extracting we don't want that level of
15:05 of subsidy extracted and if you look at
15:08 some of the rules and regulations we
15:10 don't want to be a part of it so we in
15:12 India the the I don't know if you ever
15:15 saw one of the
15:16 greatest explanations of globalization
15:19 ever given sir James Goldsmith came to
15:22 the United States in 1994 and he did an
15:24 interview with Charlie Rose and he
15:26 described why we should never approve
15:29 the Uruguay round of GAT and institute
15:31 the WTO and he to this day he nailed
15:35 nailed it perfectly if you could
15:37 summarize his argument what would it be
15:39 he said "We are going to hollow out the
15:42 middle class in the
15:44 west and we are going to devastate our
15:48 culture."
15:50 All to make our culture yes our culture
15:52 we're going to devastate our culture and
15:54 we're going to devastate the quality of
15:56 the food supply he said that yes so now
16:01 those are my words of way of saying it
16:03 you should watch it and I I think to
16:05 this day I think it's the best
16:07 description and and if you read my
16:10 online book and you listen to Sir James
16:12 Goldmith what they both describe is the
16:15 fact we knew we knew what we were in
16:18 other words the leadership knew how that
16:20 this would destroy or devastate the West
16:23 so why' they do it
16:26 that's the $64,000 question they hate
16:29 the West defenders of the West no I
16:32 don't think they are i think one of the
16:34 reasons they did it is I think they
16:37 wanted to create the capacity and
16:40 centralize the capital they needed to go
16:43 into space and I think they knew that
16:46 they would need every hundred or so
16:48 years the central bankers do a reset and
16:51 I think they knew they were coming into
16:53 a reset and and they felt with this
16:57 technology that they you know if they
17:00 didn't globalize someone else would and
17:02 and they wanted to control the process
17:04 to go they needed the money to go into
17:06 space mhm the capital well I don't even
17:09 know what that means so I think they
17:12 wanted to build the capacity to become a
17:14 multilanetary civilization
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18:42 anybody say that i had no idea that was
18:44 happening so I became I didn't become
18:46 convinced of that in 1994 i became
18:48 convinced were you still working for the
18:50 federal government in '94 uh uh my
18:53 company was the lead financial adviser
18:55 for the Department of Housing and Urban
18:57 Development and I was trying to clean up
18:59 the mortgage corruption and what I ran
19:02 smack into is that they were clearly and
19:06 intentionally setting up the
19:08 infrastructure to dramatically increase
19:10 mortgage fraud intentionally mortgage
19:13 fraud is a public private partnership
19:15 between the New York Fed member banks
19:17 and the and the federal government so so
19:21 the Treasury and the Fed were clearly
19:23 engineering a massive new mortgage
19:25 bubble and essentially I was doing a
19:28 series of things and and that mortgage
19:31 bubble was going to centralize capital
19:33 and I was working on a whole plan coming
19:35 out of the Bush administration we were
19:38 taking all our profits and investing in
19:40 building a software infrastructure that
19:42 would help communities
19:45 decentralize political and economic
19:47 power but in a way that would create new
19:49 great wealth and one of the projects we
19:52 had was we were working with uh I had a
19:56 subsidiary that had a a project working
19:59 with the top pension fund leaders in the
20:01 country and and essentially our job was
20:04 to figure out how the pension funds
20:07 could invest so that they could handle
20:10 this baby boomer demographic going
20:13 through the pension and retirement
20:15 system and um and and how we could do it
20:19 how they could invest their money
20:20 because they're operating at such a size
20:22 that it would be good for America you
20:24 know how do you build a stronger America
20:27 in a way that helps the baby boomers you
20:30 know live in retirement and um I made a
20:34 presentation in the spring of
20:36 1997 to we were at a big money
20:40 management firm outside of Pennsylvania
20:42 and one of the board members was a money
20:45 manager who worked with a lot of the
20:46 pension funds and so we had all these
20:48 top corporate and state pension fund
20:50 leaders and I made a presentation and we
20:52 had done a simulation of re-engineering
20:55 the Philadelphia economy to achieve this
20:58 and um the top pension fund leader
21:01 looked at me and he said "Oh my god you
21:04 know this is very similar to what we
21:06 tried long ago and it didn't work." And
21:07 I said "You didn't have the internet you
21:10 didn't have the tools to get the average
21:12 person's learning metabolism high enough
21:15 you know on an economic basis to do that
21:17 we had built a data servicing company in
21:19 lowinccome communities and we were able
21:22 to show how easily we could get the
21:25 labor force or people on welfare off of
21:27 welfare and make making lots of money
21:29 and being very productive at high speed
21:31 and and he looked at me and he said "You
21:34 don't understand it's too late." I said
21:36 "What do you mean it's too late?" He
21:38 said "They've given up on the country
21:40 they're moving all the money out
21:41 starting in the fall." He said "You've
21:43 got to get to Nick Brady." Nick had been
21:45 my I had been a partner at Dylan Reed
21:47 and Nick had been the chairman of Dylan
21:49 Reed before he became Secretary of
21:50 Treasury and at that point Nick is out
21:52 but you know sort of involved anyway he
21:55 said you you've got to get to Nick and
21:57 let him know it's not hopeless this can
21:58 all be turned around and um and I
22:02 thought he meant we the pension funds
22:04 have been instructed to reinvest equity
22:07 and reallocate our equity into the
22:09 emerging markets which made sense
22:11 because they had a much higher growth
22:12 rate um what I didn't realize then was
22:16 and I realized shortly
22:18 thereafter in October of 1997 that's the
22:22 beginning of the 1998 fiscal year huge
22:26 enormous amounts of money started go
22:28 started disappearing from the US
22:30 government and literally
22:33 um by the time of 911 there was 4.1
22:37 trillion missing from DoD and HUD and if
22:40 you remember the day before 911 Donald
22:42 Rumsfeld stood up and and basically said
22:46 he he did a press conference and he said
22:48 there's 2.3 trillion in undocumentable
22:51 adjustments last year at DoD and we're
22:53 missing money and it's you know it's
22:55 worse than terrorism and then of course
22:58 I was working with a report on a huge
23:00 story that would have published that
23:01 Friday after 911 about the missing money
23:04 we'd been working on it for over a year
23:06 and she'd done nine stories i'd helped
23:08 her do nine stories because we were
23:10 trying to get the general accounting
23:11 office um now that now they call it to
23:15 the general accountability office but we
23:18 were trying to get both Congress and the
23:20 GAO to do something about it and to try
23:23 and stop it and um anyway as you know
23:28 yeah priorities changed um for reasons
23:31 that we still don't understand and there
23:34 was well I don't think the average
23:37 person the average person I think sort
23:39 of thinks well maybe there were 19 guys
23:41 from Saudi or something i call the
23:43 Patriot Act the the control and
23:45 concentration of cash flow act because
23:48 what one of the things that happened
23:50 after 9/11 if you if you look at the
23:53 history of the black budget and sort of
23:54 secret financing that the government
23:57 uses for secret and classified projects
24:00 that pot of money had grown and grown
24:01 and grown and it it had become very
24:04 dysfunctional to try and get that money
24:06 mortgage fraud to I believe was one of
24:09 the biggest sources and that's why what
24:11 I was doing sort of went into the heart
24:13 of the problem but um uh the Patriot Act
24:18 and that whole process was very
24:21 successful at moving a lot more
24:23 money onto the budget in other words it
24:26 made it much easier to get enormous
24:28 amounts of money for the national
24:30 security state
24:32 um as a result of what happened now you
24:35 know whenever you do an operation like
24:37 this you stack functions so it's only
24:38 one of many goals but it was very
24:41 successful boy it went all went right
24:43 over my head um I thought it was all
24:45 about Muhammad i had no idea i know
24:47 you're laughing um I want to tell you my
24:49 church story wait hold on there's so
24:51 many threads here um yeah there's a lot
24:54 of threads yeah there's a lot of threads
24:55 i just want to I don't want to let it
24:57 continue to hang in the air this
24:58 question of space you sort of threw that
25:00 out parenthetically but like what I've
25:02 never heard that before so you believe
25:04 going back 30 years that people in the
25:07 US government and in the finance world
25:09 wanted money for Yeah it wasn't US
25:11 government it was the central banking if
25:13 you look at the c if you look at the
25:15 group of people who meet through the BIS
25:19 the bank the BIS is the bank of
25:21 international settlements and it's the
25:23 central bank of central banks where is
25:24 that located it's in Basil Switzerland
25:26 and um it has 63 of the most
25:30 powerful in uh central banks as its
25:33 members and the New York Fed and the Fed
25:35 are both shareholders they became
25:36 shareholders in 1994 in one sentence
25:39 what's the what's the purpose of the
25:41 Bank of International Settlements okay
25:42 so there are two things you need to know
25:44 about the Bank of International
25:45 Settlements i'm not sure my brain's big
25:46 enough for this but keep going it is
25:48 okay it has sovereign immunity
25:52 what does that mean it's above the law
25:54 it's its own country right it's its own
25:56 country it has its own police force and
25:58 essentially other than one of its staff
26:01 being in a car accident or you know
26:02 minor things no one has the legal
26:05 authority to move against
26:08 it okay it has sovereign immunity that's
26:10 number one number two it can move money
26:15 and hold it on its bank uh on its
26:17 balance sheet and manage money secretly
26:21 so if I want to I'm and I'm grossly
26:23 oversimplifying if I want to steal 21
26:26 trillion from the US government and park
26:29 it on the balance sheet of the BIS it
26:31 can move it anywhere in the world and it
26:32 can keep it on its balance sheet
26:34 secretly
26:37 why would there be an organizational
26:40 first of all where does its power like
26:41 who empowered it to have sovereign
26:43 immunity in the right was created after
26:45 World War I and and and sort of
26:48 collected its powers and got going in
26:50 the 30s and it was created in theory to
26:53 manage the reparations of the German
26:55 government but if you read the real
26:57 history it was because the Bank of
26:59 England and the central bankers wanted
27:01 an entity that had sovereign immunity
27:04 they wanted to be able to move money
27:06 secretly so for example if you look at
27:08 what happened during World War II and
27:10 all the money that was moving back and
27:12 forth between the Germans and Americans
27:15 you know Dulles was over in Switzerland
27:18 helping to match these all these
27:20 transfers back and forth so there's a
27:22 wonderful book called The Tower of Basil
27:24 by a wonderful Hungarian journalist
27:27 where he documents and describes the
27:29 whole history of the bank of
27:30 international settlements and if you
27:32 want to understand power in this world
27:34 understanding the how the bank of
27:37 international settlements and the and
27:38 the plumbing of the central banking
27:40 system works is very very important
27:44 i've always been worried that if I knew
27:46 more that I would become mentally ill no
27:49 no so I just have to say that reality is
27:54 sort of the
27:55 door that you open to find real
27:58 solutions so there are real solutions
28:01 and and the biggest obstacle to
28:02 implementing them is nobody wants to
28:05 face it so I used to have a pastor who
28:07 was nobody wants to face the truth of
28:08 how things nobody wants to face the
28:10 truth and I understand that because the
28:12 hardest thing I ever had to do Tucker
28:14 was look in the mirror and say "I'm the
28:16 psy i was the assistant secretary of
28:19 housing i didn't know." And I went along
28:22 and I didn't face this i should have
28:24 seen this faster i should have said "I'm
28:26 the psy." And it was it it's sometimes
28:29 it's harder than facing death to admit
28:32 that you've been part of you know a big
28:35 lie and you've been tricked as someone
28:38 who advocated for the Iraq war on
28:39 television I I've lived this to some
28:41 extent oh no yes I did well you know you
28:44 part of facing this is you have to
28:46 forgive yourself you really have to but
28:48 I used to have a pastor who would say
28:51 "If we can face it God can fix it."
28:53 Because you have to understand we can't
28:55 fix it there are many many things we can
28:57 do to change the course and I believe
29:01 ultimately freedom can prevail and
29:03 there's many things we can do to help
29:05 that happen but ultimately this is a
29:08 spiritual war and you have to call on
29:11 God you have to call on the divine and
29:14 that's where the battle is ultimately
29:16 going to be decided and that means
29:19 literally I believe this is true the
29:22 divine intelligence cannot go to work
29:24 unless we're willing to face it you know
29:26 we have to look at it we have to pray we
29:29 have to ask for help and we have to deal
29:32 with it and the solutions the real
29:34 solutions will be cultural there'll be
29:37 millions of people acting in their own
29:39 life refusing to be controlled you know
29:43 individually so very very wise what you
29:46 just said i think it's true and and
29:48 thank you for saying that i want to just
29:52 go one more time to the space question
29:53 so you said that
29:56 um people with power uh at the central
29:59 banks decided that we need to sort of
30:02 colonize space or move towards space did
30:05 that happen so here's what happened and
30:09 we have two wrap-ups and I think I sent
30:10 them to you one is uh we published in
30:13 2015 called Space Here We Go and it's
30:16 got a picture of a businessman you know
30:18 taking off in a spaceship and then we in
30:21 2017 after a couple of the big
30:23 investment banks wrote big things about
30:26 space investment we wrote one called the
30:28 space-based economy and then we we track
30:31 space on solar report so I would refer
30:34 refer you to that but I think
30:37 um I think you know first of all you've
30:41 seen a lot of capital centralized into
30:46 um a few billionaires who then reinvest
30:49 that money in space so Musk Bezos you
30:54 know so clearly there's a centralization
30:56 of capital and a reinvestment so the
30:59 idea of space is what I mean just
31:01 biggest possible picture why would you
31:04 be interested in space i say this as
31:06 someone who's not right so so let me
31:08 give you a couple reasons why first of
31:10 all you're looking for the miners are
31:13 looking for a variety of different
31:15 resources so there are practical reasons
31:18 if you can get the cost down that you
31:20 would want to do asteroid mining um the
31:23 big one the big economic one is control
31:26 is most easily implemented by satellites
31:29 so you want to put up a whole ring of
31:31 satellites that combined with
31:34 telecommunications can basically help
31:36 run the control grid and not just the
31:38 control grid in the west the control
31:41 grid if you're going to shift huge
31:43 amounts of money globally how are you
31:46 going to track and enforce that your
31:48 money is being properly invested well
31:51 you need a control grid globally so I I
31:53 think that's part of it the last thing
31:55 and I don't know the answer to this is I
31:58 think there is real concern about
32:00 geohysical risks
32:03 and one way to deal with that is to make
32:06 sure we don't bet the ranch on one
32:07 planet so to that if we could just
32:10 linger on that thank you for that um
32:12 that all makes sense uh if we could just
32:14 linger on one question so geohysical
32:16 risks so we've been lectured for I don't
32:19 know 30 years now about climate change
32:21 climate change is obviously an ongoing
32:23 feature of life on this planet the
32:25 glaciers it's just enough
32:28 so well of course it's enough and I
32:30 think we you know people have figured
32:32 that out
32:33 um but but that doesn't mean that smart
32:37 highly informed people aren't worried
32:40 about geohysical risks they are and I
32:42 know some of them are so what do you
32:44 think those risks are that that honest
32:47 smart people who are interested in
32:49 self-preservation and thriving like what
32:50 are the risks they're worried about so I
32:53 think I think the first is a solar
32:55 minimum where you get big drops in the
32:58 economy and the agriculture and you
33:00 can't feed the population right so
33:03 because there are changes in climate
33:04 because of the distance of the earth
33:06 from the sun right and that changes
33:08 right so we know throughout history we
33:10 go through periods of solar minimum
33:11 solar minimum is the name I think it's
33:14 called solar minimum I'm not an expert
33:16 in any of this so um so they are worried
33:19 about climate change but they don't
33:20 think it's coming from your suburban
33:22 Right it's not coming from human
33:24 behavior now there there are
33:25 environmental problems coming from human
33:27 behavior and those are that's for sure
33:29 right so so so so that's one um and do
33:34 you think that risk is real i don't know
33:36 for the record I I I have one friend
33:39 who's very well informed who has
33:41 convinced me that that is real that
33:43 they're that they're very concerned
33:44 about water if if you look at the
33:48 history you know of solar minimums and
33:51 you look at what it does to you know
33:53 there was a Russian I I can't remember
33:55 if he's an economist or science that did
33:57 a lot of research on the stock market
33:59 and solar activity you know and the the
34:02 if you're the central bankers and you're
34:04 in charge of managing the financial
34:05 system that that reality would make me
34:09 very nervous so okay so I think I you
34:13 know I think there's something there
34:14 worth understanding the other thing is
34:16 every it appears to me if you go back
34:18 through history um every 10,000 12,000
34:22 years we have you know some kind of huge
34:25 disaster an extinction event an extin a
34:28 near extinction event so I don't know if
34:30 you've ever read the science fiction
34:31 book threebody problem no it's
34:34 fascinating it's a one of the top
34:36 Chinese science fiction uh and and it's
34:39 about um uh a I've read no Chinese
34:42 science fiction okay
34:46 i'm feeling very ignorant this morning
34:48 no no no no because I Here's the thing
34:50 i'm just trying to figure out what in
34:51 the world's going on yeah amen we'll
34:53 start in the same place and so that
34:54 always as you know that always leads you
34:56 to the most it does right it does right
34:59 so in one I think it was I think the
35:02 thing that got me to read threebody
35:03 problem was um Obama made some cryptic
35:07 comment about people ought to read this
35:09 book it was like hint hint you know here
35:11 are the problems I'm dealing with and
35:13 the three-body problem is about um uh uh
35:18 other bodies that come into the solar
35:21 system and you it's there it's
35:23 impossible to predict their trajectory
35:26 and then when they do they create this
35:28 catastrophic flooding and earthquakes
35:30 and all this other stuff anyway but but
35:32 I think that there whether it's a pole
35:35 shift magnetic pole shift is one of the
35:38 you know theories of what causes these
35:40 events um but there is a history of near
35:43 extinction events and one of the things
35:46 that I've looked at because I'm trying
35:48 to figure out you know when TWW between
35:50 19 uh fiscal 1998 and fiscal
35:54 2015 there were 21 trillion of
35:56 undocumentable adjustments in the US
35:59 government if you go to our website
36:01 missingmoney.solier.com we have years
36:03 and years of documentation including the
36:05 government financials that show this and
36:08 so the question is where's all this
36:10 money going and one of the things I've
36:12 looked at in the process of looking at
36:14 where all this money is going is the
36:17 underground base and city infrastructure
36:20 and transportation system that's been
36:22 built and I'm sorry yes so so we have
36:26 built an extraordinary number of
36:29 underground bases and supposedly
36:32 transportation systems some of these are
36:35 a record of some of these are documented
36:38 as part of the national security
36:39 infrastructure i think there are many
36:41 more so um in the United States in the
36:44 United States and all over the world but
36:48 um in uh from 2021 to 2023 I took one of
36:54 the smartest subscribers in the Celier
36:58 report network and he and I spent two
37:01 years collecting all the data and all
37:04 the allegations on underground basis and
37:07 then we um we systematically went
37:11 through and tried to estimate our guess
37:13 this is totally a guess of how many
37:16 underground bases both underground in
37:18 the United States but also underground
37:20 under the ocean around the United States
37:24 and our estimate was
37:26 170 with a transportation network
37:29 connecting them and what would be the
37:31 purpose the purpose if you thought you
37:34 were going to get a near extinction
37:35 event so so there to me there are two
37:38 purposes you have so many activities
37:40 going on that you need to keep secret
37:43 that you're basically building the
37:45 capacity to for example if you're doing
37:47 a secret space program you need to
37:49 platform it from you know things that
37:52 can't be seen but I think if you're
37:54 worried about a near extinction
37:56 event you know that's
38:00 so I know nothing about this other my
38:01 only window into it um I knew a
38:03 contractor who worked on one in
38:05 Washington in the city of Washington DC
38:08 and Um I remember him telling me about a
38:12 power box like a transformer box on
38:15 Constitution
38:16 Avenue that he told me cuz he worked on
38:18 it personally uh was actually the exit
38:22 the egress from the White House that was
38:25 kind of by vehicle i thought that was I
38:28 was like really oh yeah no I I installed
38:30 it i know and I thought well that's kind
38:33 of crazy that in the middle of this big
38:34 city where I live I lived in I was on
38:36 Constitution Avenue every day that you
38:38 could build something like that without
38:39 me knowing it under the VP's house at
38:42 the Naval Observatory same thing i think
38:44 most people know that next to my
38:46 brother's house on Mcome Street in DC so
38:50 also so like but that's I always thought
38:52 that was like preparation for nuclear
38:54 war like I didn't really think about it
38:55 that much some of it yeah but it's it's
38:57 preparation for catastrophe so but you
39:00 think that there are um facilities like
39:02 that in other places outside DC oh yeah
39:06 so if you're interested we have a great
39:08 interview i did an interview of Richard
39:09 Dolan on underground bases on the salary
39:12 report and it's sort of an introduction
39:14 to the topic and it's based on a lot of
39:16 the research of a guy named Richard
39:18 Solder who is very hard to interview so
39:21 Richard kind of went through all the
39:23 material and and um you know clearly
39:27 it's I don't know if you ever saw
39:30 Washington Post did a a project it was
39:32 in 2010 or 12 called Top Secret America
39:36 and one of the reporters it was a team
39:38 of two reporters one of them put
39:40 together a database of all the different
39:43 top secret installations that had been
39:45 built in the country including since the
39:49 Patriot Act and what you saw was just
39:51 this explosion of money in building so
39:55 many both underground and above ground
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41:05 as a theological matter I hate to say
41:08 this but I think it's true if you're
41:10 building a lot
41:12 underground you're on the wrong
41:14 side i just don't I don't think that's a
41:17 good sign so I'll tell you a very funny
41:19 I mean right i mean like just like let's
41:21 just the obvious first that's not good
41:24 so I'll tell you a very funny story
41:27 um so in uh after I left the
41:31 administration uh after I left the Bush
41:33 administration I went on the board of
41:35 Sally May and um I'm on the board of
41:38 Sally May and after one of the first
41:39 meetings there's a wonderful stop I
41:41 don't I you've been talking about
41:43 underground bases and colonizing space
41:45 and you clearly seem totally sane but
41:48 I'm sure some people like well she's
41:49 obviously crazy i should have set the
41:52 stage at the beginning with your
41:53 biography like you're as mainstream
41:55 you're on the board of Sally Sally May
41:57 you're a partner at Dylan Reed it's like
41:59 right you're not just like on the
42:01 internet
42:04 right i'm sorry i just want to say that
42:05 i just want to say that this is like a
42:08 former high level federal official who
42:10 was on the board of Sally May and a
42:12 partner at Dylan Reed okay just want to
42:13 say it out loud okay so so I'm on the
42:16 board and there was a lovely chairman a
42:18 really lovely guy and he comes up he he
42:21 says "Can I talk to you after the
42:22 meeting?" And I said "Sure." And he
42:24 pulls out this big glossy brochure for
42:28 the Council on Foreign Relations and he
42:29 said "The time has come for you to
42:31 join." And he said "We want you to ask
42:33 Nick Nick Brady to sponsor you." And I
42:37 said to him you know Sam I just don't
42:39 want to do this i I I just I I really
42:42 don't want to do this and he looked
42:43 shocked and he said "You don't
42:45 understand if you don't do this you're
42:46 out forever." And just at that moment
42:51 just at that moment you know it's it's
42:52 these moments when things come to you i
42:55 saw in my mind I'm very pictorial i saw
42:57 in my mind a locker in the underground
43:00 base and they were taking my name off of
43:03 the
43:04 locker and I thought I thought you know
43:08 if it comes to that I'll take my chances
43:10 upstairs with the way yeah me too and I
43:13 said and but it's this it's a you know
43:15 something it's at the deepest root it's
43:17 a spiritual and cultural question
43:18 totally agree who who's cowering
43:21 underground like in the dark places no
43:24 there's but to to me there's nothing
43:26 wrong with going into a bunker if
43:28 they're bombing okay you know I don't
43:30 have a problem with that but I I really
43:33 didn't want to be with all of them in a
43:35 concentrated space it was like no I'd
43:39 rather And you know them this is you're
43:40 not guessing at this like you know a lot
43:42 of these people i know a lot of these
43:44 people and the one thing I will have to
43:46 say if there's anything I learned from
43:48 my
43:49 history the problem is not they are bad
43:53 and we are good that's not how this
43:55 works the evil and the good is threaded
43:58 at every level of society every
44:00 community every enterprise it it doesn't
44:03 work like that well I'm not especially
44:05 good i know that i know that for a fact
44:07 so I think you're pretty good yeah but
44:10 of course you know more about yourself
44:11 than anyone else does and I know that
44:13 what a flawed person I am so I'll never
44:15 declare myself on right on uh you know
44:18 I'll never say God's on my side i'll say
44:20 I want to be on God's side but it's an
44:22 open question well it's a journey it's
44:25 never over right and and we're not
44:27 perfect and it's you try every day to do
44:30 as good as you can you know and it's
44:32 like baseball you get some hits some
44:34 days and some days you strike out
44:36 so um but you believe that there's a
44:38 whole constellation of underground bases
44:40 built by the US government uh in the
44:43 United States like that fact alone just
44:46 the physical infrastructure of it
44:47 because normally talk about what are
44:48 they doing enormously expensive what's
44:51 unbelievable and like it raises lots of
44:52 practical questions how do you ventilate
44:54 them what about food and water supply
44:55 you know where's the energy are we using
44:57 breakthrough energy or where's the
45:00 energy come right right because I'm sure
45:04 that we have the ability to to produce
45:07 breakthrough energy at very low cost you
45:09 know if you go back sure of that um my
45:13 Dutch partners uh I met because they
45:16 were doing a series of conferences on
45:18 breakthrough energy and they brought
45:20 together breakthrough energy inventors
45:22 from around the world and you know you
45:25 can see all the videos up on the
45:26 internet and and really went through the
45:29 history from Tesla on of different
45:31 inventors who have discovered and
45:33 claimed different innovations with
45:35 breakthrough energy and I'm convinced
45:38 that this energy exists and I'm also
45:40 convinced if you look at a lot of the
45:42 really fast ships you know flying around
45:45 the planet you know that they you know
45:48 they're not using classical electricity
45:52 right so so you know they're not running
45:56 on diesel right exactly right so
46:02 um yeah so we know that these I'm sorry
46:05 to I get so caught up in the details but
46:08 we know that there are quite a number of
46:10 large underground bases in the United
46:12 States we can't state that as fact right
46:15 and then the question becomes of course
46:16 like if they're connected to the power
46:18 grid you know if they're pulling off
46:21 just a conventional natural gas
46:23 electricity generation station you could
46:25 like know that measure it but you think
46:27 they have independent energy sources of
46:28 course they do so one of the one of the
46:32 questions I have that I think is really
46:34 important is when you look at
46:36 breakthrough energy if you were running
46:39 the planet so I have this nickname for
46:41 the committee at the top Mr global if
46:44 you were Mr global you would not want to
46:47 implement breakthrough energy on a
46:49 widespread basis for a variety of
46:50 reasons one of which is everybody got a
46:52 hold of it and weaponized it it could be
46:54 very dangerous why um my understanding
46:58 is that um uh literally one small group
47:02 of people could take this you know with
47:04 no sovereign powers or you know just
47:07 organized crime and use it in a way that
47:09 could weaponize it and make it very
47:11 dangerous i don't I I'm not a scientist
47:14 i don't really understand right but
47:15 energy by definition is dangerous you
47:16 know gasoline is dangerous right right
47:19 electricity is dangerous of course
47:20 nuclear energy is dangerous right but if
47:22 you're if you're if you're the risk
47:24 manager and you're charge of managing
47:25 the planet you know this has more
47:29 disruption capability both weaponization
47:32 economic you know suddenly everybody's
47:34 free to do whatever they want so they're
47:36 much harder to control so so if you're
47:39 Mr global and you have the capacity to
47:42 dramatically lower the energy cost the
47:45 other danger is then population
47:47 skyrockets and you you're concerned
47:49 about that so if you're Mr are global
47:52 and you're worried about what will
47:53 happen if you bring this technology out
47:55 it's very convenient to get complete
47:58 control if you don't trust the
48:01 population to be environmentally
48:03 responsible or politically responsible
48:06 then complete control so I have a we
48:09 have a good mutual friend who's been
48:10 bothering me for years to interview you
48:13 you've got to interview her
48:15 so cle well just cuz he's he said this
48:17 is like the best informed smartest most
48:19 reasonable mainstream sane person I know
48:23 of you he said this and I was like yeah
48:25 okay anyway I'm just really glad we did
48:26 this interview cuz you're blowing my
48:28 mind up and down um
48:31 uh so how convinced are you that
48:35 breakthrough energy alternate forms of
48:37 energy non-publicly disclosed forms of
48:38 energy are in use by the US government
48:45 i think there's a very high chance that
48:48 that they're in some kind of use in a
48:51 very controlled secret way yeah well
48:53 there are tons of indications and you've
48:55 had right a number of people like at the
48:58 contractor level like I'm a federal
49:00 contractor electrician or a you know
49:02 concrete guy or whatever and I was
49:04 working on this underground facility
49:05 there are a number of people who come
49:07 forward to say this and I saw what
49:09 appeared to be some brand new form of
49:11 energy I didn't understand right and
49:13 sane people too sean Ryan who's a friend
49:15 of mine wonderful guy honest man who's a
49:18 podcaster interviewed did an interview
49:20 with this guy who was just like a just a
49:22 random bluecollar guy i think he was a
49:24 concrete guy you know and he got a call
49:27 for a million yards of concrete or
49:28 whatever and went to this underground
49:30 facility DoD facility and saw clearly
49:34 signs of some energy source that
49:36 was you know defied the laws of known
49:39 physics so uh and there are a bunch of
49:41 people have said stuff like that so I
49:42 don't think it's crazy so I have a one
49:43 of I have two businesses one is the cer
49:46 report the other is salary screens i do
49:47 an investment screen and I think you
49:50 know a lot has to shift in investment if
49:53 we're going to have a real civilization
49:55 and not misallocate i think we're
49:57 misallocating capital terribly anyway
49:59 but he he for 30 years has been an
50:02 investor in a breakthrough energy
50:04 company someone you know has been Yeah
50:06 yeah and and it's called Brilliant Light
50:08 can go look at their website you know
50:11 and and they're really you know they
50:14 swear they've got it
50:16 and what is it
50:19 don't ask me
50:21 you got to get him on and so um you
50:24 think this money has been taken by
50:29 people who've really thought through the
50:31 future and are determined to survive it
50:33 so I think I call it a financial coup i
50:37 think what happened was when the budget
50:41 deal busted in
50:44 1995 they gave up on the government they
50:47 just said you know this form of
50:50 government will not work as a governance
50:53 structure to manage the dollar system
50:55 they're right about that and and you
50:58 know they just felt it was impossible if
51:01 you're a risk manager you got to turn
51:04 the aircraft carrier before you hit the
51:06 iceberg and that could be 20 years
51:08 before do you know what I mean and they
51:10 just felt that the system wasn't working
51:14 and it required to get consensus you
51:17 just had to dumb people down and buy
51:18 them off and it just wasn't working so I
51:21 think they decided okay we're going to
51:23 re-engineer government on the just do it
51:25 method the first thing we're going to do
51:27 is we're going to pull all the money out
51:29 we're gonna put the government in a debt
51:31 trap and then we'll squeeze it and shift
51:33 to the control model and it was a
51:35 financial coup and it started in fiscal
51:38 1998 so it started literally October 1st
51:41 1997 by 2015 they had had 21 tr we had
51:47 reports in their financials of 21
51:49 trillion of undocumentable adjustments
51:51 from a cash standpoint you know it could
51:53 be 50 it could be 50 trillion or 10
51:56 trillion there's no way to tell unless
51:58 you can get access to the bank records
52:00 and then what happened was Dr mark
52:04 Skidmore of Michigan State University
52:06 and I published a study sort of a survey
52:09 we had done thanks to him and his
52:11 students that announced that we were up
52:14 to the 21 trillion at that point then
52:18 the next step that happened remember the
52:20 Kavanaaugh hearings very well okay what
52:22 you don't remember is during the
52:24 Kavanaaugh hearings the White House the
52:29 Senate the um House Republican and
52:33 Democrat all of them together instituted
52:36 issued an administrative policy called
52:39 Federal Accounting Standards Advisory
52:41 Board Statement 56 yeah I did miss that
52:43 i'll just say you did miss that yeah I I
52:45 was busy watching cabinet yell about his
52:47 teenage drinking or whatever
52:48 and what that policy said is as a matter
52:52 of administrative policy we do not have
52:55 to obey the constitutional provisions
52:57 related to financial budgeting and
52:59 disclosure we do not have to obey the
53:02 laws and we do not have to obey the
53:04 regulations what we can do is appoint a
53:08 secret group of people by a secret
53:10 process to move money out of the
53:13 financial disclosures of the United
53:16 States and 150 so it's the 24 covered
53:20 agencies plus approximately 150
53:24 governmental entities and when you throw
53:26 in the classification laws and the um
53:30 the national security laws it also
53:32 applies to the big banks and
53:35 contractors working for the US
53:37 government now let me explain what this
53:38 means as a matter of investment when I
53:42 look at the US large cap stock market or
53:45 the US bond market the Treasury market I
53:48 have no financial disclosure that has
53:50 any meaning everything's secret i have
53:53 no idea what it means if I pick up the
53:56 financials of a New York Fed member bank
53:59 that is running the New York the US
54:02 Treasury Department's bank accounts or
54:04 if I pick up the Treasury financial
54:07 statements they're meaningless they
54:09 don't mean anything what's missing
54:12 you can't know all you can know is a
54:14 secret group of people can move whatever
54:16 make whatever they want go missing and
54:18 you can't know what it
54:20 is it's all secret so I'm I'm looking at
54:24 half the cake but I don't know what what
54:27 part of the cake is missing so it it's
54:30 meaningless you don't even know if it is
54:32 half right i I don't it it's you know it
54:37 it has reached a level of
54:39 absurdity where and but but the absurd
54:42 thing is as a legal matter to take the
54:45 position that an administrative policy
54:48 agreed upon by the uni party can
54:51 overrule the constitution can overrule
54:54 the laws and can overrule the
54:57 regulations simply
55:01 by you know like the you know you you
55:04 wave the wand and suddenly magically law
55:07 doesn't matter i mean now you're talking
55:09 and and you also saw this in in the
55:11 financial crisis a decision was made by
55:14 Eric Holder in the Department of Justice
55:16 to not prosecute HSBC there's a
55:19 wonderful uh video on the best evidence
55:22 channel by John Titus about this whole
55:24 thing and basically what they said is a
55:28 systemically
55:29 important this is under the BIS there's
55:32 a definition under the BIS under the
55:34 financial stability board of a
55:36 financially systemically important
55:39 institution right these institutions are
55:42 free to break the law with
55:46 no they're free to break the law at most
55:48 all they have to do is kick back a piece
55:50 of the profits to the Department of
55:52 Justice so it's like a a formal kickback
55:54 system and what you're saying is that
55:56 you're taking the sovereign immunity of
55:58 the BIS and through the New York Fed
56:01 extending it to the banks that are
56:03 running these operations JP Morgan and
56:05 the rest Bank of America yeah right so
56:08 so what you're what you've done with the
56:11 BIS the IMF the World Bank the UN you've
56:15 created all these different
56:17 organizations and if you look at we we
56:20 did like 40 in Latin America we've
56:21 created an international overlay of
56:24 organizations that have various forms of
56:27 sovereign immunity of course the big one
56:29 being the BIS and so if they are free to
56:33 break the law I mean if you if you look
56:35 at the financial crisis what you're
56:36 saying is these companies can lose
56:39 trillions of dollars have it replaced by
56:42 the taxpayer and keep on going
56:46 so now is the point of the conversation
56:48 where I have to ask the obvious question
56:49 which is who are these people so can you
56:51 name some of the people who you believe
56:53 are making these decisions whose whose
56:56 decisions are effectively as you just
56:57 said above the law have effective
57:00 immunity right so so that's the question
57:03 sort of who is Mr global and and my
57:06 experience is the bureaucracy that that
57:08 sort of runs things is the central
57:10 banking bureaucracy so we've described
57:12 the BIS and the central bankers so think
57:14 of the planet as a house so you have the
57:18 house then you have financing the house
57:20 that's the mortgage then you have the
57:23 insurance and you know if you don't have
57:25 the insurance then your e then you have
57:27 the equity in the house right and and
57:29 the insurance layer is very very
57:31 important to make sure that the equity
57:33 is protected right okay so you got the
57:36 real assets you've got the banking
57:39 system you've got the insurance system
57:40 and then you've got the
57:42 owners so in my experience if you go to
57:45 the BIS and you look at the systemically
57:47 important institutions and the members
57:50 you know that's the bureaucracy that
57:52 runs the debt and the transaction system
57:54 so the you know the
57:56 transactions because the whole thing
57:58 depends on being able to swap and and
58:02 transact the insurance group is very
58:04 important for the reasons you just
58:05 described same as on your house and then
58:08 the question is who are the real owners
58:10 and that's the mystery and I've spent my
58:12 whole life trying to figure out who are
58:14 the real owners and basically from what
58:18 experience I've had if you know their
58:20 name they're not one of the important
58:23 owners do you know what I mean it's it's
58:25 intergenerational pools of capital now
58:28 here's what's interesting one of the
58:30 most powerful pools of intergenerational
58:33 capital that I've ever dealt with is the
58:35 Harvard Endowment and if you look at the
58:37 squabble going on over who controls the
58:40 Harvard endowment right now it's a very
58:43 interesting squabble can you summarize
58:45 it
58:47 well you have you have the Trump
58:50 administration and the Department of
58:52 Justice now in a lawsuit with Harvard
58:55 over who has what powers over Harvard's
58:58 policies but I think the big the big
59:01 fight is not the you know in
59:04 asymmetrical warfare the fight is never
59:06 what the fight's really about the real
59:08 fight is about who controls the So
59:14 Harvard Corporation the university is
59:17 only a portion of the Harvard
59:19 Corporation the Harvard Corporation runs
59:22 the university and it runs the endowment
59:24 okay and the Harvard Corporation in my
59:26 experience is one of the most important
59:29 investment syndicates in the world and
59:31 because they have a tax exemption they
59:33 don't have to pay taxes they spin off I
59:36 think the last time I looked I don't
59:37 know what it is currently but they spin
59:39 off about 4% a year for the university
59:42 which is a lot cheaper than paying taxes
59:44 and it's a great investment because the
59:46 university provides all sorts of
59:48 intellectual and human capital to the
59:50 investment syndicate you know so it's a
59:53 very brilliant elegant model and my
59:56 theory is it was the model that was
59:58 really created to sort of compete with
60:00 the the Vatican and the Catholics who
60:03 had 2,000 years of you know diplomatic
60:05 immunity and no taxes anyway so so but
60:09 it is the Harvard Corporation is run by
60:12 a perpetuating board so so the board
60:15 members if board member leaves they pick
60:17 a new board member so it's a perpetu
60:19 self-perpetuating board and my guess is
60:22 behind the scenes if there's a fight one
60:24 of the fight is who gets on that board
60:26 because then you control a $50 billion
60:29 plus endowment um and a $50 billion plus
60:32 endowment which now is has a 39% private
60:36 equity portfolio and these are you know
60:39 I I said to on Money and Markets which
60:41 is our weekly show I said the other week
60:43 you know if this is a monopoly board
60:44 that would be Park Place because it's
60:47 such a flagship in the world of
60:49 investment it's such a major leader what
60:52 would happen if the Congress decided in
60:54 the new tax bill to tax university
60:57 [Music]
60:59 endowments which they should do i don't
61:03 know because because that will happen at
61:06 the same time something else is going to
61:09 happen um and these things are going to
61:12 happen at the same time the thing that's
61:14 going to rock the universities is if you
61:18 look at how much money it cost you as a
61:21 father to put put one child through
61:25 college you know you're talking about
61:28 enormous
61:29 bills and if you look at how far the
61:33 universities have gotten away from
61:35 providing a
61:37 great
61:38 education it's not a good investment so
61:42 when I was an investment adviser I used
61:44 to work with my client's kids and we
61:47 would literally do something we have a
61:50 learning plan on Ceri now that came out
61:52 of this i would literally make them
61:54 price time and money for each course
61:58 they took by course and I would ma
62:02 basically make them say look what do you
62:04 want to do in this life and what are the
62:06 skills and tools you need to do it and
62:08 how are we going to go get those tools
62:11 with the least amount of your time and
62:13 the least amount of your parents' money
62:15 how are we going to really and we would
62:17 come up with these wild education plans
62:20 where they would like you know go to San
62:22 Francisco for this audio video course
62:24 and then they would be next year in
62:26 Budapest studying at the university you
62:29 know cuz you want to you want to you you
62:31 want kids to learn about the world and
62:34 and you want them to be you know not
62:37 provincial stuck in you want them to be
62:39 educated yeah you want them to be
62:40 educated anyway but we would come up
62:42 with these very creative things and what
62:45 you discover is now in a world of
62:48 YouTube University and access to
62:51 extraordinary you know resources all
62:54 around the world to get a great
62:56 education the the universities in the
62:58 United States have gotten unbelievably
63:01 bloated and unbelievably off track i I
63:04 think everyone senses that right and
63:06 they're they're a terrible if you're if
63:08 you're a loving parent they're a
63:10 terrible investment you love your
63:12 children you want your children to be
63:13 successful if I want my child to be
63:16 successful in the world we're going into
63:18 you know whether it turns into a control
63:20 grid or the control grid as I believe
63:22 will fail you know you want them to have
63:24 an outstanding education and and I will
63:27 tell you bluntly the reason the unipolar
63:30 model failed is because we don't have a
63:33 culture that can field and manage that's
63:37 exactly right we we don't we don't have
63:39 the human capital to run the world we
63:42 don't have the human capital but we're
63:43 teaching our human capital to adopt a
63:46 culture that that cannot succeed exactly
63:49 right right right so if you're going to
63:50 run the world you need Eaton and
63:51 Sanhurst to to to provide an
63:54 administrative class that's tough clear
63:56 thinking has a you know well- definfined
63:58 mission i don't sacrificing you need
64:01 Christianity well ex Well both of those
64:03 you know certainly Eden was a Christian
64:05 school right you you if you if you're
64:09 going to be part of a project that is
64:11 longer than a
64:13 lifetime then you have to understand
64:16 that this is about you know at the root
64:18 this is about your immortal soul and
64:20 your soul is immortal and that that
64:24 triggers a very different way of looking
64:26 at the world and a very different way of
64:27 thinking and then you have to be able to
64:30 collaborate across time and space in
64:32 very powerful ways that takes trust and
64:35 faith you have to be agreement capable
64:37 and you can't run a a unipolar model let
64:41 alone a successful multipolar model
64:43 unless you're agreement capable so this
64:45 is Lavro's term and this is what the
64:48 Russians understood and this is why they
64:49 whooped our ass in Ukraine they are
64:51 agreement capable and we are not now
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66:10 Americans for
66:12 Americans man there's uh there's
66:15 absolutely so much let me just move back
66:17 once again to uh something that you said
66:20 um about policy makers the Congress the
66:24 central banks the white house giving up
66:26 on the American model in the mid '90s
66:28 when the budget deal failed i think you
66:30 said it was 95 i vaguely remember that
66:33 um that you know this what this
66:36 democratic system or whatever version of
66:38 a democratic system we have our system
66:40 is incapable of self-perpetuating long
66:43 term it's just too dysfunctional and
66:45 that's obviously true it's too corrupt
66:46 it's too corrupt it's too corrupt it's
66:48 clearly true everyone senses that um
66:51 this isn't working we're going to get a
66:52 new system they figured that out 30
66:54 years ago the one kind of brick wall
66:58 that is looming right in the windshield
66:59 is the debt is the debt meltdown i mean
67:01 Ray Dio talks about it every single day
67:03 like we have too much debt people are
67:05 going to stop buying our debt because
67:06 it's clearly a bad deal and like what
67:10 happens then and you suggested the
67:12 control grid is in part designed to
67:14 manage the population during that moment
67:16 maybe or Yeah in part yeah so so if you
67:21 want to move people to a much lower
67:23 economic footprint let alone do it on a
67:26 shocking basis having complete control
67:28 is obviously very conven okay so the
67:30 bottom line is everybody's about to get
67:31 a lot poorer not everybody but a lot the
67:33 majority is about to get a lot poorer
67:36 depends on how they do that if you bring
67:38 out breakthrough energy you can soften
67:40 the blow there are many things you can
67:42 do to soften the blow it doesn't have to
67:44 be like Russia in 90 and 91 that's
67:46 exactly what it doesn't have to be can
67:48 they do it that way yes so it comes down
67:51 to who governs and and do they want to
67:54 do it you know one of my favorite lines
67:56 is from Tina Turner she says "We can do
67:58 this nice or rough." Yeah and we could
68:01 do it nice and we can do it rough there
68:04 there are ways of doing the control grid
68:06 nice and we can do it rough and what are
68:08 they planning I don't know to a certain
68:10 extent remember the way in my experience
68:13 the way they govern is they have targets
68:16 and goals and then you know you sort of
68:19 make it up as you go and sometimes it
68:20 works and so it's very fluid so I wonder
68:22 if the AI if the data center boom which
68:25 really is the only sort of crackling
68:27 sparkling piece of the real estate
68:29 market right now I think it's building
68:31 data centers development market um just
68:33 call them control grids control grids
68:35 control i mean look I'm they're control
68:37 nodes i'm totally opposed to it but
68:40 massive bets economic bets on the
68:42 success of AI right and the missing
68:45 piece is energy and how do you power all
68:47 that and we're already as you pointed
68:49 out in an analysis I read you have to
68:51 you have to bring out the breakthrough
68:52 energy that's what I'm saying so like
68:54 either they're going to build it on coal
68:56 deposits in Wyoming or which is going to
68:59 be kind of hard because they're going to
69:00 have to say all that climate stuff we've
69:02 been yelling at you about for 30 years
69:04 is total now we're burning coal
69:06 i don't know if they Well there was just
69:07 an article in Bloomberg that Texas needs
69:09 30 new nuclear plants and the Chinese
69:11 are building enormous numbers of nuclear
69:13 plants yeah and there are risks in
69:15 nuclear i mean every I'm a right-winger
69:17 and I've always defended nuclear but
69:18 let's be totally honest like it's not
69:19 risk-free big time well here's the thing
69:21 how how do you how do you govern and
69:24 manage nuclear plants with leadership
69:26 that's not agreement capable completely
69:28 and and also like in a country that's
69:31 not turning out enough people in the
69:33 heart not enough engineers um right so
69:35 no there are huge problems with that and
69:38 um but that's like that question is
69:41 being forced on policy makers like what
69:42 do you do about energy what do you do
69:44 about energy what do you and wind and
69:46 solar like we're going to be laughing
69:47 about that in 5 years because it's just
69:48 silly well one of the things you can do
69:50 about energy is repopulate
69:54 right right i'm and I know for a fact
69:57 I'm not guessing at this that there are
69:58 people running countries around the
70:00 world who've thought about like what
70:01 does AI mean for my population means
70:04 I've got too many people so this is
70:06 something I know this for a fact i'm not
70:07 guessing that leaders of countries are
70:10 talking about between each other like I
70:12 know that and I'm not saying they're
70:14 committing genocide or whatever but they
70:16 know that they're about to hard
70:19 statistics they are that's exactly right
70:21 so there's another thing that I don't
70:24 understand very well i've just listened
70:26 to people but if you listen to Sean
70:28 Parker saying "I'm going to live to 145
70:31 where there's an interview where the
70:33 president's son-in-law says you know
70:35 we're going to be the last generation to
70:38 die or the first generation to live
70:40 forever." So you clearly have a group of
70:44 people biohacking who think they can
70:46 engage in massive longevity it makes me
70:49 want to start smoking again i'm just
70:50 being honest i don't want to be I just
70:52 want to move I want to pivot away from
70:54 that level of soul destroying hubris
70:56 right because that's what that is i'm
70:58 God no you're not and you're going to
70:59 find out the hard way that you're not so
71:01 it does make me want to Right but what
71:04 I'm saying is if you if you truly
71:06 believe you can do that and you're not
71:08 going to allow the general population to
71:10 do it for environmental reasons then you
71:12 would be for depopulation of course you
71:14 know that's totally true so this is
71:16 again farfield do you think there's
71:17 evidence that people will be living to
71:19 145 i have no idea i don't either i
71:22 don't really care in other words there's
71:24 a whole set of scenarios I don't care
71:26 about i'm interested in freedom and I
71:30 believe that the only way we can be free
71:33 is through a culture that embraces the
71:36 divine and builds true wealth enduring
71:40 wealth and and living wealth not just
71:43 financial wealth what is true wealth
71:45 true
71:46 wealth well you know because I would say
71:49 you're truly truly wealthy i feel I am
71:52 right i don't have that much money but I
71:54 feel that way well it's an integration
71:56 of living equity with financial equity
71:59 and what I learned being a financial
72:01 adviser is that everyone had been taught
72:05 to build financial equity and they
72:07 couldn't integrate it with living equity
72:09 so you'd you'd work with somebody who
72:11 was you know worth millions of dollars
72:13 who said they couldn't afford organic
72:14 food i was like are you crazy you know
72:17 the the number one thing that causes a
72:19 demunition of family wealth is health
72:22 problems and and you know healthc care
72:25 fraud and healthcare bankruptcy it's
72:27 like you know please take a million
72:30 dollars out of your bank account and
72:32 start investing in really build you know
72:35 doing everything you and your family
72:36 need to be really healthy you know to
72:39 have perfect water to have great food
72:42 etc the other thing I discovered was you
72:45 know everybody was trained to put their
72:46 money in the national security state
72:48 instead of helping their kids buy homes
72:50 and and integrating with you know
72:53 building the living equity so my
72:56 mother's family were Quakers and you
72:58 didn't even think about buying stock
73:00 until you sent all your kids to the best
73:02 Quaker schools you know that was like
73:04 that was first that's Do you think it's
73:06 a You're dropping so much here i'm just
73:08 trying to pause like tease out certain
73:10 themes but you think it's wiser
73:13 um you know if you have children you
73:15 care about them to help them buy homes
73:16 than it is to
73:18 Absolutely who who's So can I There are
73:21 two stories I'm dying to tell you please
73:23 okay during the litigation um you know
73:27 you get in the situation what litigation
73:29 so I litigated with the Department of
73:31 Justice for 11 years or actually it it
73:35 was it was some of that was fisticuffing
73:38 with the tax guys but anyway so so I had
73:41 the sort of uh enemy the state process
73:44 of I had 18 audits investigations
73:48 um 12 tracks of litigation a smear
73:50 campaign and physical harassment so they
73:52 didn't like what you were saying uh they
73:54 didn't like the idea that I would try
73:56 and stop the mortgage bubble they really
73:57 wanted to have a mortgage bubble and and
74:00 we were doing things to bring disclosure
74:03 to um to play it's called placebased
74:06 financials i really believed that if
74:09 local communities could see how all the
74:12 money worked in their neighborhood that
74:14 we could change things so for example I
74:17 would constantly when I was at the
74:19 Department of Housing and Urban
74:20 Development I would find neighborhoods
74:22 where we were spending 250,000 per unit
74:26 to build public housing and $50,000
74:29 would buy and rehab a defaulted a
74:32 foreclosed property in the FHA
74:35 uh uh inventory and so literally if you
74:39 could just within a four or 10 block
74:41 area you know take that 250,000 and and
74:45 and spend it in the way that was most
74:47 efficient in that place you could get
74:49 four or five homes for the price of one
74:51 and it was really amazing i took those
74:53 numbers we did all sorts of due
74:56 diligence this is when I was a
74:57 contractor um to the woman who worked
75:01 for the guy who ran the
75:02 $250,000 program and I showed it to her
75:05 and I said "Look we could you know New
75:07 Orleans Chicago LA we could get four or
75:11 five homes for the price of one." And
75:12 she turned bright red and she said "But
75:14 how would we generate fees for our
75:16 friends?" Exactly right or how would we
75:19 you know pay off foreign countries who
75:21 flood our our political system with
75:23 donations if you know if we're actually
75:25 spending it to like build nice houses
75:26 for Americans well like repair reading
75:28 Pennsylvania we could be spending it in
75:30 wherever disgusting Middle Eastern place
75:33 so so if you look at placebased
75:35 financial statements there's
75:36 extraordinary opportunity to just
75:38 re-engineer what's already there yeah of
75:40 course without taking money from anybody
75:42 else and and making it so I really
75:44 thought if you if you create so we
75:46 created a software tool called community
75:48 wizard that would allow everybody on the
75:50 internet to just come and download the
75:52 data and start looking at how the money
75:53 worked in their places in way that you
75:55 could see real opportunities okay so let
75:57 me tell you two stories the the um the
76:00 litigation starts and literally you go
76:03 from being very wealthy and very trusted
76:07 and very respected to being an enemy of
76:11 the state no one will talk to you nobody
76:12 answer your phone and suddenly all your
76:15 income stops all your income stops your
76:18 credit stops you're just frozen and by
76:20 yours you mean yours yeah yeah so so uh
76:24 anyway so you know you you have the
76:27 assets that you have luckily they never
76:29 turned off my bank account so I was
76:31 lucky that way but one of the things
76:33 that happened was they started I had had
76:36 a farm in New Hampshire and I sold my
76:38 share to my uncle i had a wonderful and
76:41 very wealthy uncle who was like the
76:43 patriarch and and he bought my And I
76:46 warned him if you buy this you know they
76:49 may come after you too and he was a very
76:52 standup guy very fearless and he said
76:54 you know I'll deal with that so sure
76:55 enough um I sell him the farmland they
76:58 call him and they say you know your
77:00 niece is a criminal and you shouldn't be
77:02 doing this blah blah blah blah and um
77:05 and they said "We want the financial
77:08 records from the farm we want all the
77:11 financial records of the farm." And he
77:13 said "Well send me a letter so I can
77:15 give it to my lawyer and I'm happy to
77:16 send them to you." So they you know and
77:19 this is the summer farm where all the
77:21 family goes anyway so so instead of
77:24 sending him a letter they show up at his
77:27 house in Portsouth New Hampshire at 900
77:31 p.m at night three FBI guys and a HUD IG
77:34 guy with a
77:35 subpoena and it was designed to scare
77:37 him so the family had a big pow-wow
77:41 should they drop me because they don't
77:43 want to be targeted and um and he said
77:46 "Well you know uh she always helped
77:50 us." So it turned out I counted it up at
77:54 that point I had lent or given to family
77:58 and friends
77:59 $250,000 just I made a lot of money i
78:03 loved making money and people needed
78:05 help and that's what's money's for so
78:07 that is what to restate that is what
78:09 money is for so I just always I hadn't
78:12 even thought about it by the way your
78:13 average like 23-year-old NBA player
78:16 who's floating all of his cousins and
78:17 single mom he understands that better
78:20 than your average rich person your
78:21 obligation is to your family and
78:23 including with money sorry right some of
78:26 us are lucky some not amen right so so
78:30 he said she helped
78:32 everyone so I'm going to help her
78:35 and it took 11 years but at the very No
78:38 it was 2006 so that was about 9 years at
78:43 at the end of the process when I won the
78:46 litigation I got a I we got money coming
78:49 in i sat down to either repay everybody
78:53 who'd loan me or gifted me money and uh
78:55 or almost everybody some had just gifted
78:58 and I I counted it up and what I
79:01 realized is I had come into the
79:04 litigation having loaned a quarter of a
79:06 million and then over the next nine
79:08 years exactly a quarter of a million had
79:11 come back and it w it wasn't tit for tat
79:14 i mean it was different people different
79:16 thing you know some had got and said
79:18 well I guess she needs it back and
79:20 repaid it or some had just gifted it
79:22 because they knew I'd gifted and
79:24 literally I put a quarter of a million
79:26 out and a quarter of a million came back
79:28 and Tucker if it wasn't for that money I
79:30 wouldn't be here I would never have made
79:32 it through and it was because it was the
79:34 in the people bank and they couldn't
79:36 shut the people bank off you know they
79:39 could they could do all sorts of things
79:41 to shut off all all sorts of resources
79:43 and income but if It's in the people
79:45 bank and the people you love and trust
79:48 you know it comes back so when I love
79:50 that yeah it's great so when I finished
79:53 when I when I finished the litigation I
79:56 had had a 401k that I'd had to bust it
79:59 had 500,000 in it i'd paid 225,000 in
80:03 fines and taxes to get it out well they
80:06 I don't think they thought I they put my
80:07 401k under audit so I couldn't use it to
80:10 finance the business it was dirty tricks
80:13 anyway so so I take the money out so my
80:17 accountant when we get the settlement
80:19 money she said "Let's fund up the
80:21 401k." I said "No I'm never going into
80:24 business with the US government again."
80:25 No way i I don't I don't want any of
80:28 those vehicles i'm I'm out and I said
80:30 but the other thing is I'm taking that
80:32 500,000 and I'm bonusing it out on the
80:35 people bank and I'm going to start a new
80:38 business and I think that business will
80:39 be successful so I don't need that
80:41 500,000 and it'd be nice but I don't
80:43 need it but I need to get that money
80:45 back in the people bank because that is
80:47 the only bank in this world I trust and
80:49 so ah that's like a beautiful story well
80:53 here's the question and I used to always
80:56 say this with my clients who's going to
80:59 be there for you right who's going to be
81:02 there for you that that's the people
81:04 bank and you want to invest in the
81:06 people bank now it may not be money it
81:08 may be time it may be help it may be
81:12 there's a a wonderful book called Family
81:14 Wealth by a guy named James Hughes i
81:15 don't know if you've ever heard of it or
81:17 seen it and basically what he does my
81:20 greatuncle didn't like the book so much
81:22 he said "You're trying to turn our
81:23 family into a corporation." I said "No
81:25 I'm not." But it basically teaches a
81:27 family how to conspire together it
81:29 basically have a dinner once a month or
81:32 once a whatever and talk about what's in
81:35 your heart to do you know this person
81:37 wants to do this this person wants to do
81:39 this some things make money some things
81:41 don't but but but help each other be
81:44 successful at whatever your passion is
81:47 and and work as a family you know I
81:50 always at Ceri we say don't worry about
81:52 if there is a conspiracy if you're not
81:53 in one you need to start one and a great
81:56 family should be a a conspiracy where
81:59 you're trying to help each other succeed
82:01 i love that
82:03 i mean these are ancient and with
82:06 respect very obvious points exactly but
82:09 I I don't think I've heard someone say
82:12 him in a long time well but if we're
82:13 going to build a successful
82:15 culture that culture has to be good at
82:19 building wealth living wealth and
82:21 financial wealth both on an integrated
82:24 basis so if you come to Ceri we have a
82:26 curriculum called building wealth and it
82:28 has six pillars and we organize all of
82:32 our content into and around building
82:34 wealth and um because it's it's part of
82:38 what you have to build to build a
82:40 culture that can really be part of real
82:42 solutions so the the first pillar is
82:44 free and inspired life and so you know
82:47 our theory is you have a goal you have a
82:50 relationship with the creator and you
82:53 decide you know what's what's your free
82:55 and inspired life everybody's unique um
82:58 and in a decentralized world everybody
83:01 is unique you you know there's no
83:03 there's no formula so to speak the
83:07 second one is navigation tools and
83:09 that's where people get burnt so we say
83:11 in navigation tools there's an official
83:14 reality and then there's reality and you
83:16 need to know both and reality is for the
83:19 management of your time and money and
83:20 the official reality is for the cocktail
83:22 party and you need to not get those
83:24 don't use the official reality to manage
83:26 your time and money because then you're
83:28 going to get I mean I clean so many
83:30 people up from financial fraud and
83:32 healthc care fraud because they believe
83:34 the official reality so you you can't do
83:36 that the third is risk management
83:38 because in this kind of dangerous
83:40 environment everything's about keeping
83:43 your risk exactly down and that's more
83:45 important than making money it's more
83:47 important to lower risk than make money
83:50 so in a in a in a well-governed world
83:53 we'd all be you know focused on outside
83:56 growth but now we're just we've got to
83:58 be focused on risk preventing loss right
84:01 and then the fourth is living equity and
84:03 that's all living things that's people
84:06 that's family that's culture that's
84:09 education you know all the things that
84:11 go into that and then financial equity
84:14 all the things you know and then the
84:15 last one is to me the most important
84:18 it's called turtle forth so did you get
84:21 the hat the turtle forth hat i did yeah
84:23 right okay turtle forth is about never
84:25 quitting you must never ever quit and
84:29 the whole goal of the people who are
84:33 trying to
84:34 centralize is to get you to think it's
84:36 hopeless and John Rapapore used to
84:39 always say hopelessness is an op and
84:41 it's planetwide
84:43 [Laughter]
84:45 well because I am I am actually struck
84:48 by well by everything that you've said
84:51 um I think this could be like a 9-hour
84:52 conversation if we let it uh but I have
84:55 one more story but I am struck also by
84:58 your tone i don't think I've ever heard
85:00 someone describe dark deeds with more
85:04 cheerfulness like how do you how do you
85:06 not go crazy so you have to keep a state
85:08 of amusement i mean it it's I I really
85:12 you know I one of the most breakthrough
85:14 moments for me in the last 20 years was
85:16 when I
85:17 I realized that it was okay to be happy
85:21 no matter what was going on and
85:24 sometimes you can't be it's so horrible
85:25 what's going on but it I'll tell you
85:27 exactly when it happened i had a
85:28 wonderful church where I studied
85:31 spiritual warfare for two and a half
85:32 years at the beginning of the litigation
85:34 and it was that training that saved my
85:36 life and uh but I was at a sermon and
85:40 there was a co-pastor who had very long
85:42 fingernails and she was very angry and
85:45 she was shaking her hands with her long
85:48 fingernails and you know sometimes when
85:50 you're in a big church and they point
85:52 right at you and she said she said she
85:55 said the devil can have my house and the
85:57 devil can have my car but the devil
85:59 cannot have my joy and it was like I
86:02 exploded in my head and I said that's it
86:06 that is it that is it hey it's Tucker
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87:05 so it's a conscious decision not allow
87:07 that to allow that joy to be stolen from
87:08 you right and it's sometimes it's hard
87:10 did you ever did you ever see the never-
87:12 ending story the movie The Never- Ending
87:14 Story read the book so so it's a
87:17 wonderful child's story where um the
87:21 child is the protagonist and he's
87:23 fighting a force in the universe called
87:25 the Nothing and the Nothing is running
87:28 around the universe sucking meaning out
87:30 of everything and it's hard when you're
87:32 dealing and if you look at this digital
87:35 control it comes with an energy that's
87:37 very demonic and and sucking meaning out
87:40 of everything and they're very good
87:42 they're masterful at turning you know
87:44 turning allies against each other the
87:46 divide and conquer thing is really
87:47 heartbreaking what's happening right now
87:49 on the right I see heartbre and um so
87:52 you're up against the nothing and so
87:54 sometimes we'll come together in a team
87:56 meeting and somebody will say "I've lost
88:00 my state of
88:02 amusement." And then the team's job is
88:04 to help them to get it i've lost my
88:06 state of I've lost my state of amusement
88:09 and it happens i can't you know but it
88:12 is I think of this of myself where you
88:14 know I've had my amusement taken from me
88:16 a number of times but I always think to
88:19 myself like if you're perennially
88:22 shocked by evil in the world like you're
88:24 a child you're an idiot like what did
88:26 you think this was like don't be naive
88:29 there's a lot of evil in the world there
88:30 always has been don't be shocked by it
88:32 laugh in its face i You're always going
88:35 to be shocked by it oh I am you're
88:37 always going to be shocked by it i'll
88:38 tell you why you're going to be shocked
88:39 by it
88:40 if you
88:42 understand if you understand
88:47 love you can't fathom why anyone
88:52 would would reject that yes and embrace
88:57 evil because it's so stupid it's so
89:00 wasteful it's so un as my mother used to
89:03 say it's so unnecessary you know
89:07 it's just like it's
89:10 um you just can't fathom why anybody
89:12 would do it i I you know I I I watch the
89:17 folks who are in the financial system
89:21 who are deeply corrupt and just
89:24 constantly take and take and take you
89:26 know the the plunder team and I think
89:29 how is that to me what they're doing is
89:32 not fun i love you know it's not fun
89:35 it's not fun when when So I will tell
89:38 you I was my gift everybody has a gift
89:41 my gift was an investment bank i was
89:43 absolutely fantastic i was just really
89:45 really good at it and the heartbreak for
89:47 me was when I got had to leave the
89:49 establishment i lost the ability you
89:52 know it's like a painter and you lose
89:53 your ability to paint you can't get
89:55 access to colors anymore so but I loved
89:59 it and when you do it in the right way 2
90:02 + 2 equals 20 and it's so exciting it's
90:06 the best feeling in the world it's like
90:08 uh Oh I've lived it yeah yeah so when
90:11 Van Go it's my theory when Vanco
90:13 finished a painting that what he pow
90:16 it's like wow you know it's great and
90:18 and you watch these guys do the fraud
90:22 and destroy you know all the mortgage
90:24 fraud and it destroys neighborhoods and
90:26 it destroys family and it's just it's
90:28 just it's like a lose lose lose and you
90:31 think that's no fun
90:34 no and and they're not happy i I know a
90:37 number of them and
90:39 um I had a conversation with Ray Dalio
90:41 who I do like i don't agree with them
90:43 and everything but I I do like Ray Dalio
90:44 and he's got more perspective on life he
90:46 had lost a child i think he was forced
90:48 to kind of think through what matters
90:51 and I asked him off camera recently like
90:53 "Do you know I know a lot of miserable
90:55 billionaires i know a couple happy
90:56 billionaires but how many happy
90:57 billionaires do you know?" And he's like
90:59 "I know a few like I'm I'm actually
91:01 pretty happy but not that many and that
91:03 that's a tell right that's a tell and I
91:06 I will tell you the debt is a symptom
91:09 it's not the problem the what's the
91:11 symptom the debt yeah the debt the debt
91:14 is a simple Yeah
91:16 it when there was 21 trillion
91:19 missing as of 2015 when we published
91:23 that study in 2017 there's 21 trillion
91:26 of debt now first of all remember the
91:28 Treasury can just issue currency they
91:30 don't need debt to create the currency
91:33 and in fact I would say historically the
91:35 greatest currencies are fiat currencies
91:37 that are not debt based so our problem
91:40 is the debt basing but but let's just
91:44 grossly oversimplify and talk about what
91:46 that means with the 21 trillion so the
91:48 Treasury sells pension sells Treasury
91:50 bonds to our pension funds moves 21
91:53 trillion into the bank accounts at the
91:56 New York Fed member banks for the
91:59 Treasury they're the depository and then
92:02 the 21 trillion disappears out of the
92:04 back
92:05 door so it's just a straw that's sucking
92:09 our pension fund money into I call it
92:13 the breakaway civilization
92:16 and meantime we as taxpayers are now
92:18 obligated to pay the debt into that we
92:21 owe our pension funds and the money is
92:24 gone why do you call it the breakaway
92:25 civilization breakaway civilization was
92:28 a term made famous by Richard Dolan and
92:31 it simply described a
92:34 decision to create a parallel system you
92:38 know first it started with a black
92:39 budget but it grew you know call it the
92:42 national security state but but to build
92:45 a civilization that literally was
92:48 separate and not subject to the laws of
92:49 the existing ones so if I'm running a
92:52 company and I want to bring up new
92:53 systems I'll bring up the new systems
92:56 while I'm running the old and I'll run
92:58 them in parallel and I'll move things
92:59 over slowly and then at some point I
93:01 bring the current thing down and to me
93:04 that's what the financial coup was
93:05 you're moving the money out of one
93:07 system and and putting it in another so
93:10 in theory 21 trillion is enough at a 5%
93:15 you know interest rate to basically
93:17 finance a a private government if you
93:21 will right i'm not saying that's what
93:23 happened but in theory
93:26 do you think it did so when I was at HUD
93:29 in
93:31 1989 it was 80 late ' 89 or early 90 I
93:35 was in a meeting with the secretary and
93:38 we had brought all the regional
93:39 administrators in for a meeting with the
93:42 secretary and um he was very upset
93:46 because the regional administrator from
93:48 California had implemented something in
93:51 response to a court decision and there
93:53 was a court case in the court of appeals
93:56 and they decided okay you got to go to
93:57 the right and so he had implemented that
94:00 and um the secretary was having
94:04 literally like a manic episode screaming
94:06 a huge temper tantrum screaming at him
94:09 and finally this guy said but Mr
94:11 secretary it's the law and he just
94:16 exploded with fury and he said "The law
94:19 the law i don't have to obey the law i
94:22 report to a higher moral
94:24 authority." And just at that moment it
94:27 was like remember the scene in Eyes Wide
94:29 Shut when you first walk in on the you
94:32 know the secret society doing their
94:34 occult ritual you know you had this
94:36 image of oh you know he
94:40 literally he he doesn't have to obey the
94:43 laws of the United States he's operating
94:45 under a different governance structure
94:47 people feel that way right and that you
94:50 know there there many
94:52 um there's a very famous story of
94:55 Lincoln um when he's talking about his
94:59 what he wants to do to implement the
95:01 reconstruction policies and he tells a
95:04 story about a young child saying you
95:08 know if I throw the fish back will get
95:10 mad at me but if I um if I uh if it
95:16 slips from my hand accidentally and you
95:18 grab it then dad won't be mad at me and
95:22 the implication of the story is that
95:24 Lincoln has a dad that he he can't buck
95:28 and and you know we're back to the
95:30 question who's dad it's the same
95:32 question as who's Mr global and you've
95:34 never gotten closer to the answer or
95:36 you've never settled on an answer
95:40 i Here's my guess so we did I once did a
95:44 two-hour interview on the Celery Report
95:46 on who is Mr global where we go through
95:48 all the different
95:49 theories so I think literally you have
95:53 intergenerational pools of capital which
95:56 meet and work by consensus you know it's
95:58 a committee system and they do have a
96:00 set of rules and what I don't understand
96:04 I think their challenge is they're risk
96:07 managers and they're they're constantly
96:10 pulling out a lot of money and they
96:12 always need to get that dividend and the
96:14 question is why do they need the
96:16 dividend where's the money going cuz
96:18 they're constantly running the financial
96:21 system to extract extra money there's
96:24 always disappearing money and the
96:25 question is why and where's it going and
96:28 you think it's going to infrastructure
96:29 projects
96:31 i think it's going to infrastructure
96:32 projects i think it's going to big
96:35 investments like you know building the
96:37 control grid is a big one and one of my
96:40 questions on the financial coup is are
96:42 they literally setting up an endowment
96:45 so they can run you know the world on a
96:48 global governance that's a dictatorship
96:50 with an endowment so it's the you know
96:53 it's it's a bigger endowment than
96:55 anybody else's
96:57 um you said a couple minutes ago that
97:00 the debt the our the US government's
97:03 debt which I think even people are not
97:05 interested in the stuff are aware that
97:07 it's it's it's there and that it's a
97:09 problem is not the problem it's a
97:12 symptom what did what did you mean we if
97:15 you look at
97:16 our current model
97:19 um it is not being run on an economic
97:22 basis and it's getting much worse and
97:25 it's getting worse steadily so let me
97:26 give you an example our military budget
97:29 this year is approximately 850 billion
97:33 and the president wants to take it or
97:35 the secretary of defense is saying we've
97:37 got to take it to a
97:38 trillion our HHS budget is 1.8
97:44 trillion dr skidmore just did an
97:46 analysis if we went back to 2010 levels
97:49 of disability we would lower that by
97:52 half a trillion dollars half a trillion
97:55 half a trillion so America is I call it
97:58 the great poisoning we've poisoned
98:01 ourselves and it's blowing the budget
98:03 and it's not just blowing the budget of
98:05 the federal government if you look at
98:06 family budgets it's blowing their
98:08 budgets you know poison people are not
98:11 productive and and their health care
98:12 costs can be very expensive and you see
98:14 that at the federal level and you see
98:16 that at the state level the local level
98:18 and the family level that's got to be
98:20 dealt with but you know if if you look
98:23 at the budget right now it's expenses
98:25 are
98:26 skyrocketing and and it's skyrocketing
98:29 because the fundamental model of what we
98:31 do and how we do it it helps
98:34 decentralize but it's not economic and
98:37 so you got to change that now what we do
98:40 and how we do it do you mean how we live
98:43 right so now I get to tell you my last
98:45 story okay
98:48 I can't
98:50 Okay this is called the red button story
98:53 and if you put my name in on the
98:55 internet you'll get you know a copy of
98:57 the story because it happened to me in
99:00 2000 i was asked by a healthc care
99:03 practitioner to give a presentation
99:06 called How the Money Works on Organized
99:08 Crime and it later became a very famous
99:12 article called Narco Dollars for
99:13 Beginners and it was meant to be a light
99:16 funny description of the intersection of
99:19 organized crime flows with Washington
99:22 and Wall Street so my book I have an
99:24 online book called Dylan Reed and the
99:26 aristocracy of stock profits that is a
99:28 case study that teaches people it's
99:31 designed to be like a business school's
99:33 case study that shows you that
99:35 intersection between illegal cash flows
99:38 and Wall Street and Washington anyway so
99:42 I'm in the middle of the speech and I'm
99:44 describing the congressional testimony
99:47 on the Dark Alliance allegations that
99:49 happened in 1998 and at the time I was
99:52 helping a reporter
99:54 um do research and she was covering the
99:57 hearings and a spokesperson for the
100:00 Department of Justice told her so I'm in
100:03 the middle of the speech and there are
100:05 about a hundred people and we're the
100:06 conference that where I'm speaking is um
100:10 a conference that happens once a year by
100:14 this group and the focus is on how we
100:16 evolve our society spiritually so this
100:19 is a very spiritually committed group of
100:21 people who want to evolve our society
100:22 spiritually okay so I'm describing the
100:26 um the fact that a spokesperson for the
100:28 Department of Justice told this reporter
100:30 I was helping that the US economy
100:32 launderers 500 billion to a trillion
100:34 dollars a year of all illegal money so
100:38 that's narcotics trafficking that's
100:39 financial fraud that's you know
100:41 everything it's human trafficking and um
100:44 and the number is now much much bigger
100:46 but they were describing the fact that
100:48 the US economy and financial system is
100:51 the leader globally in laundering dirty
100:54 money so I said to this wonderful group
100:57 of spiritually evolved people what would
101:00 happen if we stopped being the global
101:04 leader in money laundering and we had a
101:06 little conversation they said "Well you
101:08 know the money would leave the New York
101:10 Stock Exchange and go to Singapore or
101:12 Zurich or London." Um and and we'd have
101:16 we might have trouble financing the
101:18 government deficit because we you know
101:20 now we borrow over half of the money
101:22 currently um and and so we we you know
101:26 our taxes might go up or our government
101:28 checks might stop so I said "Okay let's
101:30 pretend there's a big red button up here
101:32 on the lectern and if you push that
101:34 button
101:36 um you can stop all hard hard narcotics
101:39 trafficking in your town your county
101:42 your state tomorrow
101:44 thus offending the people who control
101:46 500 billion to a trillion dollars a year
101:48 of all dirty money in the accumulated
101:50 capital thereon who here will push the
101:52 button and out of a 100 people dedicated
101:54 to evolving our society spiritually
101:56 guess how many would push the button i
101:58 don't know one the other 99 would not
102:02 push the button so I said "Wouldn't keep
102:04 all those kids from dying?" Yeah it
102:06 would so wait so So I said to them I
102:09 said "Why would you not push the
102:11 button?" So we had a little conversation
102:13 and they said "We don't want our taxes
102:14 to go up we don't want our government
102:16 checks to stop and we don't want our
102:18 401ks and IAS to go
102:21 down." So if I had voted there would
102:24 have been two pushing the red button so
102:26 what I discovered that day the problem
102:29 was that not that they wouldn't push the
102:32 red button but they wouldn't go into the
102:34 invention room and have a an honest
102:36 conversation about what the real problem
102:38 was and how I call it how we turn the
102:41 red button green how we make money
102:43 pushing the red button because then we
102:45 can push the red button and you have to
102:47 push the red button because you cannot
102:50 become wealthy liquidating your children
102:53 you cannot become wealthy by poisoning
102:56 your children and your people and yet
102:58 that's what we've been doing in America
102:59 for decades now and now here's the
103:03 political problem if you're the new
103:05 president of the United States and you
103:08 walk into the Oval
103:10 Office your political guy is going to
103:13 say to you "Mr president the American
103:15 people just spent billions getting you
103:17 voted in as president and now they want
103:19 payback they want their government
103:21 contract they want their privatization
103:24 they want the cola increase on social
103:26 security they want a community block
103:28 development grant and you're going to
103:29 turn to your secretary of treasury he
103:31 says "Well you better be nice to the
103:32 people who control 500 billion trillion
103:34 dollars and the accumulated capital
103:36 there on." And of course the number's
103:38 much bigger now now how are you going to
103:40 press the red button you can't and if
103:43 you look at the history of politics in
103:45 America the history is everybody wants
103:47 their check and they want the story of I
103:50 am good i'm a good Christian i'm not
103:53 doing any of this corrupt organized
103:54 crime stuff you know i'm just voting you
103:59 know so so I say it this way when
104:02 Goldwater the end of World War II George
104:05 Keenan said "We got 6% of the people and
104:07 50% of the resources and we're going to
104:09 have to be tough if we keep this going."
104:11 So Goldwater ran for president he said
104:13 "We're going to have to drop a lot of
104:14 bombs." And the American people said "Oh
104:16 no we don't want to do that we're good
104:18 Christians." So Jimmy Carter came along
104:20 and he shivered in front of the
104:22 fireplace and Americans said "Oh no we
104:26 don't want to do that we don't want to
104:27 cut back." And so the Bushes came along
104:29 and said "You know something you all are
104:30 good Christians here's your check don't
104:32 ask
104:33 questions." And that's where we've been
104:36 everybody wants the story of I am good
104:38 and the problem you can you can push the
104:42 red button you can turn it green but it
104:44 has to be done one neighborhood at a
104:46 time you need to take all the money in a
104:49 place and instead of spending the
104:51 government money to centralize control
104:53 and on the control grid you need to
104:55 re-engineer it to build real wealth and
104:58 and you've got to decentralize the
105:00 economic power if you centralize and you
105:03 create lots of billionaires you're going
105:05 to shrink the pie and that's what we've
105:07 been doing and we've been making money
105:09 from poisoning each other
105:12 if people want
105:14 to learn more about your research and
105:18 your views on things if they want to
105:20 know about the 11 years you spent
105:22 fighting the feds for uh blowing the
105:24 whistle on them where do they where do
105:25 they get that information so we publish
105:27 the Careri report it's salary.com
105:31 si.com and we have a subscription
105:33 service and we have a lot of free you
105:36 know so if you want to get to know us
105:38 you can come in and you can learn
105:39 tremendous amounts from the free stuff
105:41 we'd love to have you as a subscriber
105:43 and um we have a great group of
105:46 subscribers we have What happened to me
105:48 was I I fell into this because I had
105:53 terrible terrible experiences with the
105:55 corporate media and um and so I just
105:58 started doing shows and giving out my
106:00 email and saying "If you have a question
106:02 ask me." And over many years the
106:04 questions would come in and we'd publish
106:06 the answers and you know it'd go on and
106:08 on it went on for free for a long time
106:10 and then finally I got so many questions
106:13 that I would just you know I finally
106:15 said I need to hire people but we have
106:18 this global network of subscribers and
106:20 audience who get on the site share
106:23 comments they're brilliant and we help
106:26 each other figure figure things out and
106:28 we've literally become an intelligence
106:29 network you know and it's all people who
106:32 want to be free and they all understand
106:35 one can't be free unless we're all free
106:37 you know this is an all orno thing they
106:40 either get the control grid or we're
106:41 free and the only way we're going to be
106:43 free is if everybody's free it's an all
106:45 or nothing deal and there are a lot of
106:47 people now who understand this and are
106:50 gathering and you know so I have many
106:53 subscribers i don't I just know from
106:54 what they say I have many subscribers
106:57 who are your subscribers because they
106:58 feel and I feel you're on the same
107:00 journey yeah i'm just not a very
107:02 systematic thinker so um a lot of I my
107:05 instincts tell me that you're telling
107:06 the truth and of course I agree
107:08 completely with your orientation i just
107:09 my brain doesn't work that way uh so
107:12 it's been a a true pleasure to hear all
107:14 of this thank you well thank you i I
107:18 love your work so thank you i've been a
107:20 I've been a subscriber from the very
107:22 beginning underground bases you're
107:25 blowing my mind katheris thank you very
107:28 much thank you
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