worse. Um, I felt better not having had medication.
medication.
Um, and I remember the gastro explaining
to me that that's where they have to
start you on those medications because
they're cheaper medications. Um, and
that's just where, you know, they they
start you they don't put you on a
biologic straight away because it's too
expensive. So, they start you on these
medications that have a very alarming
um I want to say uh dead sea scroll list
of um side effects um that you know you
you wouldn't want to put that in your
body. Um and I definitely didn't. So
immediately um stopped taking it. Um I
was in hospital for maybe a week because
I just had such severe reaction to that.
Um, and my like my fluids went down,
like everything. My body was basically
shutting down from that medication. Um,
and I was in a really terrible mental
state because I'd gone from getting a
diagnosis to thinking I was going to
feel better once I took this medication.
And it was actually the opposite.
Um, and then after that, I had a bit of
a rest off medication for quite a few I
think it might have been quite a few
weeks, maybe even a month or two. Um and
then they started me on a biologic. Um
and that biologic
um was fine. I actually started to feel
better on the biologic. Um however, I
did have some side effects like I had
very heavy periods. Um I had um just
random sort of side effects that I sort
of put down to taking that medication um
rather than it actually being the
Crohn's itself. So things like um really
swollen joints um you know painful um
movement like when I move my legs and my
arms sometimes in the morning first
thing I'd have quite a bit of pain like
um especially my forearms like um bit of
a like a tingling sort of pain um and so
yeah I realized that there's quite a
long list of you know side effects that
come with those biologics as well even
though I was feeling feeling better. Um
I didn't Yeah. just didn't want those
side effects and didn't want myself to
go through that again. And I sort of
wondered like if I'm on this long term
then what if this stops working I'm only
going to have to go on another
medication and and then that might stop.
Like so it's just this weird sort of
vicious cycle. Um and I started to feel
really um just mentally not great about
that. Um and so that's when
I started to really question it and go
is this worth it or what are there any
is there anything else I can do um in
terms of looking after my body and being
you know Crohn's free in a sense um or
you know keep keep everything at bay
without having to like mask it. I think
that's the thing like you know the the
medications really mask some of the the
symptoms that you might have associated
with Crohn's and I don't think it really
heals your body in the way that you
think it might. Um I think it's very
much just a band-aid uh band-aid fix um
an interim fix really rather than a
long-term absolutely solution. Yeah. I
mean it has its place. I think you you
sort of you know when we worked together
the the medication played its role
because of some of the severe symptoms
that you were having. I think the
stomach pain was was quite a big one for
you too or the um menstrual pains that
you had as well. That was also something
that um didn't help when you took the
medicine uh you know when you did the
infusion. Were you on infusions or did
you have to go to the hospital and get
an IV drip? What was the situation? Uh
yeah I had to self- inject. So the first
one was an infusion where a nurse came
home and um and it was sort of like the
loading dose and then um every eight
weeks was a self injection. Yeah. Right.
And how long did you how many weeks or
how many doses how many injections did
you take roughly? Do you remember or how
uh quite a few months I think I was on
on that for you know four four months
maybe in total. So um maybe three
injections. Um, wasn't that many I
remember, but I remember feeling
starting to like sort of feel good and
then I was like a bit worried to to not
have that safety blanket um so to speak.
Yeah. And then this this is the tricky
part, isn't it? Cuz when you do take the
medication, sometimes the symptoms do
sort of subside uh and and you can kind
of get your life back, but it's it's
it's never the same as without the
medicine, right? I mean, if you compare
yourself now
to taking the medicine and sort of
living that life and living this life,
there's so much of a difference. It's
almost black and white, you know, in
that way. Um, but I guess everyone has
to go through those
experiences to kind of understand that
what is it that you want in your life?
And I think you're already a person that
was looking outside the square and
going, "Hang on a second." like I think
I would like to do this naturally and I
don't need to sort of have this constant
injection that potentially may make me
worse as you said before in the long
term and that there isn't that much data
long term uh for these medications as
well and so that's
where you know that's where my issue is
as well you know and that's why I didn't
want to take medicines for the rest of
my life because I thought hang on a
second some of the diseases that you get
from the side effects are even worse
than the condition that that we have. Um
so so you know a big big uh you know pat
on the back for sort of making that
decision for yourself and I guess we'll
we'll talk about that as well cuz there
was a a time where you know it was a bit
scary for you but you know you started
to understand it a lot more and you you
took you sort of took the initiative
which was really important you know and and
and
um yeah so you found us um you found us
and I
Did it give you hope? Did what did you
feel when you sort of came across our
our stuff like our our YouTube channel
and and things like that? How did you
feel when you saw this? You maybe you
you watched some testimonials and how
did you feel when when Yeah. Um I felt
like there was something else out there
that I could potentially try. Um, and I
didn't at first I was a little bit
um, hesitant and not because I didn't
want to give it a go. It was just
because I was like in a really hard
place mentally and I think I just needed
that to build confidence up to I guess
get in contact and um which I did pretty
quickly but I think it just um took me a
little bit of time to sort of wrap my
head around the fact that there was um
you know someone like you out there that
um could potentially give me another
pathway. Um, and I, um, I remember
looking at a testimonial, um, I think it
was Emily's testimonial that really
stuck with me. Um, and so I, you know,
and I flicked through some of the other
ones, too, and and but that one really
stood out to me because, um, Emily's
testimonial stood out because,
um, yeah, I think her perseverance
with, you know, just trying to, you
know, be medication free and trying to
see a different way of, um, of living, I
think, uh, really inspired me to reach
out and to give this a go. Um, and I
think you know the the diet um issue I
think for me like it was very easy well
I found it easy um to transition to you
know to to the program that you had
because um I'd seen you know someone
like Emily come out the other side of
that and it was really inspirational.
Um, and so I was like, well, this is
easy then. Like this is the an easy
thing to do is like transition my food
and like be able to, you know, eat
really well like this. And and I was um,
you know, I think I was eating fairly
well before, but then I came to realize
that, you know, some of those foods
weren't healing. Um, and so I really
loved that you offered that side of
things like that. Um, that guidance with
food and and introducing foods and, you
know, now I'm able to eat any of the
fruits and veggies that I like, you
know, without having any repercussions.
Um, so that was amazing. But yeah, I
think in terms of coming to to you to to
you guys, I really wanted a program or
someone that could guide me
holistically. So it wasn't just about
the diet in in isolation. It wasn't just
about, you know, saying goodbye to a
medication or changing or whatever, you
know, it was more about
um, you know, the mindset um and the
holistic view that you offered. And I
think it really helped me to get in a
different frame of mind. Um, and it
really helped me to excel. Um, because
you offered that holistic approach.
Nothing was siloed. Everything was
connected. Um, and so that's why I found
I wanted to work with you pretty quickly
because you offered that and that's what
I wanted and needed at the time. Yeah.
Yeah. I remember that first conversation
actually that we had um and you know you
really wanted someone that could show
you a way but also say hey actually
there's other things that we need to
work on you know and I think this is
where the the people pleasing thing and
and sort of going into that aspect of
like not taking control of your own self
and the self-love that you that you may
have lacked at the start and and sort of
your vulnerable Uh, and so how did how
did like what I was saying to you was
making sense to you because it's like
all about self-control and go no I can
stand up for myself and I I can do this
for myself you know and that's that's
what I had to do when I was going
through it and so I'm you know sharing
my experience with you about that and
going hey well maybe if you tweak a few
of these things and start adapting these
things to your life you might see some
changes and that those changes made
sense to you because that's where that's
what the path that you you probably
always wanted but didn't know where to
go or what to do. And then yeah, the the
diet coming into it as well at at a time
where you know everything is connected.
And so um you know it was actually
really cool cuz
I when I talked to you like you were
really looking forward to to doing this
and like you started to understand okay
this is what I need to do. Uh it's not
like okay Shmeza is gonna help me.
Shemeza is gonna tell me certain things
so that I can help myself.
Yes. That's right. And and I think that
that struck a chord with you because you
needed someone to sort of tell you that
hey, you know, you can do this and it's
okay and you can do that and it's okay
and nothing's going to happen to you.
you know, you're not going to get sicker
and you're not going to, you know, there
was there was some hope there that, you
know, you wanted and I think we don't
necessarily get that with doctors,
right? Because they don't know any
better. They don't know that, hey, this
is a, you know, well, they they say that
it's a medically incurable condition
because because it is cuz medicine
cannot cure it. But who is to say that,
you know, if you do the right things
mentally and physically and and you you
work yourself out, you go through your
past traumas or you go through those
experiences and go, "Hey, well, how can
I do certain things to get myself
better, you know, you're you're
challenging the status quo because you
kind of have to challenge that in order
for you to get better because everybody
else is kind of stuck in their own way."
Uh, and you didn't want to be stuck, you
know, and neither did I, you know, I was
like, I'm not I'm not signed up for this
stuff, you know, because this is it
doesn't make sense to me to to do this.
mean, you know, you you you really
started to understand what you needed to
do and I and I was really grateful to to
then be like, "Okay, let's do this
together, you know, cuz it's like it's
always nice to have someone to that's
raring to go that understands, you know,
what they need to do." And I think with
the diet, I think we just refined a few
things that, you know, cuz you were
already knowledgeable about certain
things about, you know, a whole food
plant-based diet and what the benefits
of that um, you know, are and and so it
was just like, okay, here's a here's a
helping hand, you know, like do this and
and tweak a certain certain things and,
you know, see how your body responds to
that. and and it worked really well
because again you took the initiative uh
you know and I think
in in saying that like let let's talk
about that cuz there it's it's not
always smooth sailing obviously there's
always going to be ups and downs there's
always going to be challenges that you
need to face especially
because there's a little voice inside of
your head that says certain things and
you almost have to fight yourself in
this battle where you're kind like you
know the doubts start creeping in or you
know you say to yourself oh certain
things that you probably don't need uh
and I guess let's talk about that with
your experiences and
how how much of a challenge it was to a
certain extent um where
you you know you'd get some symptoms and
then you'd be like oh is this am I doing
the right things or you know like and
and so yeah like I guess talk to the
audience about how you got through some
of the tough times.
Yeah. Yeah. That's um I think this is
yeah really valuable to talk about for
me now reflecting back
um yeah I I remember when I sort of
started the the program and and kind of
eating you know differently and and
um you know changing my mindset. I f
found that very challenging at the
beginning because I think I was in a
really I want to say dark sort of place
mentally like I I was like oh you know
the the fear had set in um and that
crept back in you know multiple times um
throughout working with you but I think
um I'd always remind myself that this
was just you know how I'm feeling now is
maybe not how I'm going to feel
tomorrow. Um or how I feel now is not
how I'm going to feel in 6 months time.
And so there was always a bit of a a
light at the end of the tunnel, so to
speak. And that kept me going. And I
think what really helped me was having
those regular meetings with you because
it kept me in check. Um I remember there
was one time you said to me
um you know as soon as you have those
sorts of thoughts um you know going into
that sort of space where you know it's
not going to help you um how can you
what are some of the things that you can
do to drag yourself out of that and so
you know I would do things like
meditation or um I would as soon as I
had those sorts of thoughts I'd you know
sort of replace it with something really
positive Um and so that really helped
helped me. Um and doing very very light
movement like walking like exercise very
light on but um just even doing some
stretches and things eventually that
started to help me and now you know
exercise is um such a big part of my you
know daily daily life that I feel like
that really helped me to sort of change
my mindset as well. I mean, it was all
those other things, but I really felt
like some light movement back then when
I wasn't feeling so great definitely
shifted my mental state. Um, and yeah, I
think going back to what, you know, I
said before, you know, you checking in
with you every every week made the world
of difference because I was sort of held
accountable for those, you know, dipping
back into th that sense of fear. Um, and
so when I'd see you online, it would be
like, okay, no, those thoughts go out
the window. This is a fresh start now in
this meeting. And from here on in, let's
think about the positive effects and how
far I've come from, you know, where I
was to now. And so I'd sort of keep
myself going, you know, thinking along
those terms. Um I think what you said
before about the people pleasing and you
know the the self lack of self- loveve I
think that's definitely been you know
has been in my my past like um I would
always you know please other people
before myself and now I've really
shifted that mindset and I think that's
definitely helped me to heal um in a big
way because you know if you can't look
after yourself and and give yourself
that love and care that you deserve then
how are you're going to help other
people in need. Um, and so, you know,
you said that to me once that really
stuck with me and, um, I've really
adapted that that mentality and now
that's really put me in a in a good
place to help other people if I ever
need to and or when I need to. And, um,
it's also given me um, I think a little
bit of a different attitude toward my
own self and how I view myself and my
confidence as well. Like I think that's
a big thing, you know, being able to
kind of know your worth and your
confidence. Um, and be confident in your
the decisions you make, you know, like
it's a bit scary to go, okay, cool. I'm
going to, you know, change my whole
lifestyle in terms of what I eat and how
I interact and um, meds and and all
these other things. Um, it's really
scary to to make those changes, but um,
I think having the confidence, you gave
me the confidence to do that. Um and so
I'm really so grateful for that because
um I think my confidence was there but
it was kind of hidden away and so you
helped me to to realize that
um yeah a lot of empowerment there and
also like I mean if
if you're in a position where you need
to make a decision who's going to do it
for you no one. Yeah. No one's going to
tell you what to do because it's your
life. you you have to make the decisions
and you know it's not you know like of
course you know I'm going to have my
point of view and things like that and
but but it's it's at the end of the day
it's it's you going okay I'm going to
take him what he said and then go I'm
going to choose to do whatever path I
feel that makes more sense and he's
telling me hey okay well if I if you do
this then this is going to happen and
it's it's actually very empowering ing
when you make those decisions for
yourself because, you know, for the
longest time you probably were, you
know, worrying about other people's
decisions and then sort of making your
own decisions from other people. Uh and
and that's that's a trait that a lot of
people have. It's not just yourself. uh
because we we do sort of go into our
shell and then not necessarily branch
out of that uh or or find a bigger shell because
because
we I don't know we feel like we lack and
we're we're vulnerable uh and and it's
the low self-esteem as well. So like you
your point where your confidence is sort
of bringing bringing that confidence out
in you is exactly what I want from
people like yourself that have this lack
and that they don't know what to do with
themselves. You know, even though you
have what it takes, it's like you you
stop yourself from doing it. And I'm
kind of like, hold on a second. Like
why? You know, yeah. You know, it's it's
it's a it's a it's a great feeling
though when you start to take that
initiative and go, "No, what? He's
actually right. Like, why am I not why
am I not doing this?" And and why am I
not stepping up to the to the plate
where like I can actually I'm I'm okay,
you know? I'm not I'm not I can do it
like sick or I'm not, you know, in a
position where I'm really unhealthy. and
and so that and and that brings me back
to the point where when you you know did
have those negative thoughts
um you didn't necessarily focus on the
symptoms improving you focused on the
negative thoughts and so therefore what
did I do to you I reminded you of your
body changing and then you were like oh
yeah actually like I didn't have that
symptom last week and then I didn't have
these other symptoms last week, but it
you sort of forget about these things
too, right? when you're when you're
going through it cuz your mind is
constantly like you know oh like am I
doing the right thing or you know like
when you and especially when you when
you do feel a little bit worse like I
remember you had a couple of fevers
during this time and you have to you had
to stay at home and and luckily for you
you were able to work from home too but
um you know being at home preparing was
was was great but when you did get that
fever you kind of felt like it it
shocked you a little bit cuz you're
like, "Oh, why is this happening?" And
then you sort of thought about it a
little bit more and you were like, "Hang
on a second. Maybe this is what my body
is trying to do to start getting
better." And then the belief started
coming into you.
I just want to add there too. I think um
I didn't have I didn't put trust in my
body and I think that was the biggest
thing that sort of set me back is like I
didn't trust that my body would do what
it needed to do. And I think that's the
biggest thing lesson that I've learned,
you know, over the the past um couple of
years is that your body will do what it
needs to do. You just have to give it
the right conditions. And um and that's
something that I did not have initially
when I saw you um when I started working
with you was that I didn't have that um
trust in my body. Yeah. That it would
just do what it needed to do. So that
was that was really hard for me. But I I
think as you said, the symptoms really,
you know, I didn't have a symptom. You
know, the the week sometimes I'd come
and see you and I'd jump online and I'd
be like, "Oh, I've got this now." And
then it's like, "Oh, hang on. That's
actually an improvement from like 3
weeks ago." um you know so it's just
about realizing that where your body's
at and trusting the process because I
know that sounds really naff but um
trusting that it will do what it needs
to do when it needs to do it is the
biggest lesson I think. Yeah. Yeah. And
the small wins that you get like
reinforces that and therefore you sort
of grow in that confidence. And I guess
it's easy to sort of forget that and and
go, "Oh, no." Like, cuz we we always
focus on the negatives. We always focus
on the small things that aren't working
than the bigger things that are working.
It's always this is human nature, I
feel, which is annoying, but it it just
it feels like we look at the the nooks
and crannies instead of like the bigger
picture. And like why why do we do that?
It's cuz we we're pretty much
conditioned to do that in today's
society, you know, and like always look
at the negatives, always look at the the
failures in people's lives. And I guess
that's where we go to Poppy, you know,
like, you know, we want to bring people
down when they're succeeding. And and I
think that's we're always ingrained with
that in our in our sort of way of life
because of so many people thinking along
the same way. And I guess that's where
like we look up to successful people
because they've sort of gotten out of
that trap of going I don't want to be
like that, you know? I want to look at I
want to focus on on the positives and
and the the results instead of focusing
on the
failures and and that really breaks you
like it it takes you away from breaks
that chain that you've been holding on
to like struggling your whole life. And
it's like now you're free. You're free
to think actually like in a way that is
going to benefit you instead of thinking
in a way that's going to put you down.
And that I think that was probably the
biggest thing that you realized going
through this is how do I think in a way
that's going to actually benefit me? And
like what was that quote? um try
and support the life that you want to
create by thinking certain things
instead of you know putting yourself
down and and um yep yeah that that was
amazing. So um I just want to go back to
when you when you watched Emily's um
testimonial. She she's going to love by
the way but um excellent. You know I
think another reason why she was in that
position was because she was desperate
and she she actually had run out of
options. uh you know the doctors had
gone through every sort of situation. I
think you you saw that and you were like
if I go down this route then that's
probably going to be me. So let let me
like do this first. So then it prevents
me from potentially going down that
route, you know, and like you said like
I've got nothing to lose or I'll try it,
you know, I'll try doing this. Um, but
but the fact that, you know, she was
able to get out of a position that was
so hard, you know, like she was in a
really desperate place and and for you
to see that and go, "Hey, I'm I can do
this." You know, cuz if she can do it, I
can do And I think that's another key
point there that you know when you see
someone get better uh it encourages you
and it go and and and that's that's why
I think sharing sharing your story as
well is so important because there might
be someone out there that is also in the
similar position to you like you know
like that that might be thinking oh I
was that I'm that person you know I I
don't take care of myself I take care of
other people first you know like so it
does trigger and and and inspire Yeah.
And I think it's it's great that um you
know we can talk about this because
you know a lot a lot of people in
general men and women uh you know do
have this issue that you know we don't
we don't want to embrace healing. We
don't want to you know take control of
ourselves and and like who else is going
to do it for you? You know no one's be
able to Yeah. You have to do it on your
own. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Um, I just want to also reflect on
some of the symptoms that you may have
had and and also um some of the
the I guess women's issues that that you
had and I guess just talk about that cuz
a lot of probably a lot of women
probably are experiencing similar things
to you uh in that in that way and I
guess it would be lovely for you to
speak about how when you started eating
a certain way some of these things that
you were having previously had had sort
disappeared or gone away because of you
know eating clean and and understanding
that okay if I put these foods into my
body my body can naturally work and and
heal these things. So I think um you
know if you don't want to you can go
into details if you want but yeah up up
to you to talk about it but I think it's
important that that if you want to share
with that yeah share share with
thanks yeah I think um I think it's this
is really important stuff to talk about
because um there are women out there
that are facing you know uh quite a lot
of pain um and having quite a lot of
pain on the regular
Um, and so I was one of those. I'm not
anymore. Um, and I remember like I've
always been uh someone to have a heavy
period. Um, and so that was, you know,
something that I just had all I've had
all my life now. Um, since I started my
period. Um but since uh being diagnosed
with fibroids um which was uh quite a
number of years ago, I was just told
that um you know just deal with it. Um
and that was really hard to to swallow
because I was like okay there has to be
a way I can you know not go through this
pain every month and not have iron
infusions all the time because I was
losing so much blood. Um, and also I
didn't know that I had Crohn's at the
time. So that, you know, I my iron was
always always low. Um, and I was always
feeling horrible um around period time
because I'd have pain and I'd also um
just have no energy at all. Um and so um
I had a procedure done to remove um most
of those fibroids which helped but then
I still had the issue of like really
long periods and heavy bleeding with a
lot of pain in the leadup to the period
and during the period and then even
after the period. So I would say you
know majority of the month was spent in
pain. Um, and I just kind of normalized
that on top of the Crohn's pain that I
had as well. And so I think when your
brain is in that constant cycle of pain
all the time, you just your brain almost
normalizes that in a weird way and you
know you develop a high pain threshold
which isn't good um in a lot of ways
because that's not natural to have those
sorts of periods um and and that sort of
pain. And so when I started um with you
guys at High Carb Health um I was eating
really clean and at first I didn't see
any much improvement. Um but then um as
the months went on I noticed that my
periods were much lighter. Um I wasn't
having you know in the leadup I wasn't
having really bad back pain or tummy
pain um or even ovary pain. like on on
one side I get this really sort of heavy
pain um in the leadup. Um I wasn't I
started to like realize that I wasn't
having that. Um but it was almost this
weird thing of like my my cycle would
come and I it would happen. Um and then
I started to realize, oh wow, I didn't
go through two weeks of pain. My periods
just arrived and you know I'm not
experiencing that. Um, and so I was
realizing that like diet plays such a
massive part in, you know, in in how
that works every month and how your body
um, I guess, you know, tolerates um,
that pain and and and also like eating
um, whole food plant-based diet really
helped me to understand that I was
putting really good stuff in my body, so
my body was going to
um, I guess respond in ways that were
really favorable. So like my periods
were lighter and not as heavy. Um I they
were shorter like an like a reasonable
amount of time. They weren't like 9 or
10 days. They were um seven or less. Um
which was has been a massive improvement
for me because I've always had you know
periods that last 10 11 days sometimes
very heavy. Um, and so yeah, the the the
way in which they present themselves, I
wasn't, you know, I was always worried
to get my period because I was like, I'm
going to lose so much blood and I'm also
going to um have all this pain. So,
there was this fear associated with that
and there shouldn't be. That's not a
natural response. Um, and so now when I
do get my period, I will have like a
little bit of pain the day before or
couple of days before it'll happen and
it will be a non-event. Um, and I'm so
grateful because I'm able to kind of it
really um stopped me from doing things
socially cuz I'd be like, okay, not I'm
not going to feel good around this time
of the month, so I'm just going to stay
home. Um, and so it really,
um, I guess it really, you know, taught
me that what you put into your body is
really, really, really important because
uh, your body is, like I said, going to
respond in a way that um, that you'd
want it to respond in. And now my body
is doing that. And I'm so happy that I
got have now got to a place where I
cannot fear my my cycle every month and
not have the pain associated with it.
And just the general anxiety like I'd
get quite anxious
um just even thinking about it in the
leadup and now I'm like h whatever it's
fine you know. Um and that's how it's
really meant to be. Yeah. Wow. That's
that's incredible. I mean like for you
to go from where you were to where you
are now uh you know it it feels like
you're a different Lissa like almost you
know you can actually it's not a
different Lissa it's actually the the
true Lissa that was always there but it
was always being sort of you know like
masked as you say and and not only this
what what's really interesting is that
you know see how the body works in so
many different areas and heals in so
many different ways you know you came
with us with, you know, to to heal your
Crohn's. And it's like it's not only the
Crohn's that's sort of healed. It's it's
so many other aspects of your life and
and your body. Uh, you know, and that's
the beautiful thing about this approach.
It's it's not just one organ that's
healing. It's everything. And that's the
beauty of of understanding the
plant-based diet. And you know, we
learned from the experts and and we also
became experts at going, okay, these are
the foods that are actually going to
make your body change and allow your
body to change if you have the right
setup. Right? So, it's like, okay, I'm
going to focus on the foods, but I'm
also going to focus on the all these
other aspects that have brought me here,
and I'm undoing all that, you know, I'm
undoing all that damage and and
repairing that damage. Uh because in in
in the end of the day, your body is just
injured, right? it's just injured from
unhealthy living and you you've slowly
slowly been able to repair that injury
and and it's you
know there there's still lots of things
that your body will need to heal because
it's not just you know like one thing
but you know cuz it's an accumulation
and and over the years as you keep going
you're only going to get stronger and
stronger because if if this chunk of
time if you're able to do s so much in
this chunk of time like imagine in the
next 10 years uh down the track and how
you know you're going to allow your body
to not be as inflamed and and anti-
anti-inflammatory foods that you're
eating are allowing your body to not
produce free radicals and you know the
whole anti-aging thing comes in as well
where you know as you get older you're
potentially going to you know slow that
down by eating all the antioxidant rich
foods that you're eating and uh you know
having that beautiful balance of knowing
that okay, this is really good for my
gut. I'm going to go for it. And and
what's not good for my gut and I'm not
going to go for that.
Um so that that's you know to to
understand that is is one thing you know
but then to apply it you know is another
and that's where I think that helping
hand comes in from from what we do and
you know we're so blessed to be able to
do this and you know help people like
yourself and go hey well you know if you
just slowly put these things into
practice then watch your body and and
see how well it can actually heal
because in the And that's what the body
does. It heals itself. And it makes so
much sense, you know. It makes so much
sense, you know. Um I got some really
cool other cool things that we I want to
talk about because um during the
program, you
also went to Singapore. And I guess I I
want to touch on that a little bit as
well because you know there was a time
where you were quite nervous about doing
a certain thing which was obviously not
taking the biologic. Um and I guess I guess
guess
talk talk us through the eight weeks
that you were you know obviously the gap
gap's eight weeks and so you were like
okay well my symptoms are improving in
those eight weeks. do I still need to
make, you know, another injection and I
guess um
yeah, talk about that experience and
also um then traveling uh as well. You
were actually well enough to to travel
uh at that at that point because you
know you were you were doing so well and
so yeah I guess explain that. Yeah.
Yeah. Um yeah, look, I think uh as I was
going through, I was like feeling, you
know, a little bit better as time went
along. And I remember um I had a a a
trip planned to Singapore and I was
thinking I can't go. Um and it was at
the time of like you know everything
sort of shifting like my thoughts around
medication and um my thoughts around you
know just my diet shifting completely
and what am I going to eat over there
and like this this you know anxiety that
I started to get thinking about even
going out and I I guess what I really
want to say about this is that you know
I'm sure there are other people out
there that have I think everyone's
probably gone through this having you
see your Crohn's But there's the point
where you just can't leave your bed.
Like you're just bedridden. Um and so
for me, you know, that's where I was at
not too long before the Singapore trip
came up. I was like, I was bedridden a
couple of months ago, you know. Um
there's no way I can get on a plane and
go overseas for a for a week. Um and
yeah, at that time I was like, do I need
to take medication? Can I stay off it
and then go and travel? And I made the
decision with the help of you to sort of
think about that. You pushed me to, you
know, just challenge myself in that way
cuz I was really nervous. Um, and yeah,
I was, I guess I was just really nervous
to to travel and not have that those
security blankets of home, you know. Um,
and I, yeah, I went over there. Um, and
I found food that I could eat. Um, I
felt really great over there. Actually,
I think it was that change in mindset as
well. And just before that, I think, um,
before I left, I'd really sort of worked
on my mindset. You know, you can do
this, other people have done this, you
can do it, you know. Um, and so I got on
the plane quite nervous but also really
excited because I was like, "Hey, this
is happening." Um, I'm I'm on the plane.
I there's no backing out. Um, and yeah,
I was worried that I'd end up in a flare
up because I'd, you know, thought about
not taking that next biologic injection,
which I didn't. And so,
um, yeah, I I had a really great time. I
didn't end up in a flare up. I had I did
have a little bit of tummy pain and
things when I went there and I think it
was just an adjustment in the heat as
well and my body was just kind of I
think in adjustment mode. So, um but
when I came back um I made sure I got
lots of rest. I think that's the other
thing I haven't mentioned here is that
um you know just making sure that I got
lots of rest along the way, proper sleep
um that really helped. Um, and just
knowing my limits. Like I think that's
the other thing I should probably
mention too is like knowing what my
limit was when when I was, you know, um,
was over there was really important, but
also just in general like being able to
kind of, you know, get good sleep. Um,
good sleep hygiene has been massive um,
in my turnaround, I would say. Um but
yeah, going to Singapore um really
opened my eyes to the fact that I can do
this and now you know with work I've
traveled quite a bit interstate stayed
in places that you know regional remote
places and I've been really lucky to not
have to rely on any anything anyone I
know I'm really confident in myself in
terms of being able to travel and that I
think that's a big thing for people with
Crohn's or you say it's like you feel
like you can't go anywhere you're bound to
to
bathroom all the time or you know you've
got your routine and that's your your
security blanket and you're almost
unable to see how that those things are
possible. Um and I'm really fortunate
enough that you push me to challenge
myself to do those things because I
wouldn't have been able to do it if it
weren't for you. And um I think now I
look back on that and I'm like, "Wow, I
can go travel anywhere and I can jump on
a plane and feel confident that I'm not
going to be running to the bathroom
every 5 minutes or, you know, um or that
I'm going to end up in a flare up, a big
flare or something like I feel like I'm
confident enough to do that stuff now,
which is an amazing um turnaround from where I was um previously." Yeah. Yeah.
where I was um previously." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And and I guess going to
Yeah. Yeah. And and I guess going to Singapore is is quite it's out of the
Singapore is is quite it's out of the country as well. So like you're not
country as well. So like you're not you're going really out of your comfort
you're going really out of your comfort zone. Um and remember when I said this
zone. Um and remember when I said this to you that in order to actually be
to you that in order to actually be comfortable, you have to be
comfortable, you have to be uncomfortable, right? And so you chose
uncomfortable, right? And so you chose the uncomfortable path to then
the uncomfortable path to then understand that hey, it's not actually
understand that hey, it's not actually that uncomfortable. I can do it, you
that uncomfortable. I can do it, you know? And I think that's that was your
know? And I think that's that was your stepping stone to freeing yourself from
stepping stone to freeing yourself from that anxiety. Uh so uh yeah and also
that anxiety. Uh so uh yeah and also having that confidence to be like I can
having that confidence to be like I can actually do this um you know and and not
actually do this um you know and and not not feel sorry for myself or not feel
not feel sorry for myself or not feel like I'm not good enough you know that's
like I'm not good enough you know that's a big one you know cuz it was very much
a big one you know cuz it was very much like that where you know a lot of people
like that where you know a lot of people do feel this it's not just yourself and
do feel this it's not just yourself and and at times you know for me too like
and at times you know for me too like sometimes that does cross my mind but
sometimes that does cross my mind but then I'm like no because I've I've gone
then I'm like no because I've I've gone through so
through so you know, and and this is what it does.
you know, and and this is what it does. It leads you to a better place because
It leads you to a better place because you realize your worth, right? Like you
you realize your worth, right? Like you realize that you're worth so much more
realize that you're worth so much more than what you were before. And how how
than what you were before. And how how much of a profound effect that has on on
much of a profound effect that has on on your life going forward. And and every
your life going forward. And and every little experience, every step
little experience, every step forward makes you stronger. you know, it
forward makes you stronger. you know, it strengthens your ability to make
strengthens your ability to make decisions and to actually come through
decisions and to actually come through those decisions. And definitely there's
those decisions. And definitely there's going to be some decisions that are not
going to be some decisions that are not going to go your way, but those are
going to go your way, but those are actually decisions that actually make
actually decisions that actually make you stronger because then you can
you stronger because then you can actually be like, "Okay, what what can I
actually be like, "Okay, what what can I do better next time?" You know? Yeah.
do better next time?" You know? Yeah. And that's why life is is never a
And that's why life is is never a failure, you know? You always learn.
failure, you know? You always learn. It's always a learning opportunity. It's
It's always a learning opportunity. It's never a failure. And
never a failure. And we should never see it as a failure if
we should never see it as a failure if you make a mistake or whatever. It's
you make a mistake or whatever. It's it's you know there's so much learning
it's you know there's so much learning there for you and um you know it it's
there for you and um you know it it's incredible
incredible that you know the things that you've
that you know the things that you've been able to do um you know from from in
been able to do um you know from from in such a short period of time as well. It
such a short period of time as well. It wasn't actually that that long where you
wasn't actually that that long where you had so many issues. It was it was like
had so many issues. It was it was like every week you you'd see something you
every week you you'd see something you know see something change and then every
know see something change and then every month you'd go would reflect on that
month you'd go would reflect on that month and it would be like okay this is
month and it would be like okay this is where you were and then I' I'd go back
where you were and then I' I'd go back to my notes and be like okay stomach
to my notes and be like okay stomach pain you know period pain and then the
pain you know period pain and then the month after that was like oh stomach
month after that was like oh stomach pain is not really there anymore uh
pain is not really there anymore uh fevers are gone I don't have to lie in
fevers are gone I don't have to lie in bed for so long in the morning remember
bed for so long in the morning remember that
that and like hey I can I can get up yeah
and like hey I can I can get up yeah you're like I can get up I feel I feel
you're like I can get up I feel I feel energized today and and and fatigue was
energized today and and and fatigue was I something that you struggled with a
I something that you struggled with a lot, right? Even before
lot, right? Even before Yeah. Yeah. And I still do, I have to
Yeah. Yeah. And I still do, I have to say. And it's not it's not because of
say. And it's not it's not because of anyone thing. I um Yeah. I have I've
anyone thing. I um Yeah. I have I've figured out that I have something called
figured out that I have something called mildmia, which is a um where your cells
mildmia, which is a um where your cells uh don't get enough iron to them. So
uh don't get enough iron to them. So basically you can have a lot of iron um
basically you can have a lot of iron um and yeah it's just your body doesn't
and yeah it's just your body doesn't kind of hold store that iron properly.
kind of hold store that iron properly. Um so yeah in saying that I just have to
Um so yeah in saying that I just have to make sure that I eat lots of iron rich
make sure that I eat lots of iron rich foods. Um I can take a supplement which
foods. Um I can take a supplement which I had done in the past but I don't
I had done in the past but I don't anymore. But I've been managing to get
anymore. But I've been managing to get my iron up for the first time ever. It's
my iron up for the first time ever. It's been more than um 10. So it's always
been more than um 10. So it's always been around like four or five or like
been around like four or five or like super low. Um, and since starting the
super low. Um, and since starting the whole food plant-based diet with you
whole food plant-based diet with you guys, um, and obviously changing my
guys, um, and obviously changing my lifestyle completely then, um, it, yeah,
lifestyle completely then, um, it, yeah, it's been up around like 11 to 15. So,
it's been up around like 11 to 15. So, like, it's it's it's been good. Um, but
like, it's it's it's been good. Um, but yeah, definitely fatigue I think was my
yeah, definitely fatigue I think was my biggest issue with Crohn's. Like, I
biggest issue with Crohn's. Like, I couldn't get out of bed. I couldn't even
couldn't get out of bed. I couldn't even walk very much. Um, I know that we've
walk very much. Um, I know that we've all, those of us that have had this have
all, those of us that have had this have all been there. like you just don't have
all been there. like you just don't have any energy at all and you don't feel
any energy at all and you don't feel like you're ever going to get that
like you're ever going to get that energy back which is really sad and
energy back which is really sad and horrible because you're stuck in that
horrible because you're stuck in that mindset of like am I ever going to feel
mindset of like am I ever going to feel good again and guess what you are. Um so
good again and guess what you are. Um so yeah, now I'm able to like exercise
yeah, now I'm able to like exercise again and I've built myself up to like
again and I've built myself up to like go to the gym again which I never
go to the gym again which I never thought was going to be possible. Like
thought was going to be possible. Like that's a massive Now that I think back
that's a massive Now that I think back I'm like whoa. Like
I'm like whoa. Like that's something I never thought I'd be
that's something I never thought I'd be doing. Signing up for a gym membership,
doing. Signing up for a gym membership, that's for sure. Um in terms of like
that's for sure. Um in terms of like where I was at, like I'd always, you
where I was at, like I'd always, you know, been to the gym here and there,
know, been to the gym here and there, but um like and I've always exercised,
but um like and I've always exercised, but in terms of that regular like, you
but in terms of that regular like, you know, stretching, weights, cardio, like
know, stretching, weights, cardio, like all of that stuff is now my regular, you
all of that stuff is now my regular, you know, part of my daily life, which is so
know, part of my daily life, which is so amazing.
amazing. You know, do you know what? There's one
You know, do you know what? There's one word that that sticks out to me is
word that that sticks out to me is sustainable. Your your is now so
sustainable. Your your is now so sustainable and it's it's steady, you
sustainable and it's it's steady, you know. There's no
know. There's no fluctuations as much as it was before,
fluctuations as much as it was before, you know, cuz if you didn't have that
you know, cuz if you didn't have that structure and if you didn't have that
structure and if you didn't have that like
like sustainability, you know, you wouldn't
sustainability, you know, you wouldn't be able to do the things that you're
be able to do the things that you're doing today. And and because of that,
doing today. And and because of that, you're able to continue to do the things
you're able to continue to do the things that you're doing today. You know, it's
that you're doing today. You know, it's that stability, the the sustainability,
that stability, the the sustainability, and the structure, like the three S's.
and the structure, like the three S's. And
And it's amazing. And and you've done this
it's amazing. And and you've done this all by yourself, you know? It's like,
all by yourself, you know? It's like, all right, Lissa, today I'm going to
all right, Lissa, today I'm going to wake up in the morning and I'm going to
wake up in the morning and I'm going to think a certain way. And you can either
think a certain way. And you can either think something good or you can play
think something good or you can play victim and be like, I can't I can't be
victim and be like, I can't I can't be bothered doing this today, you know?
bothered doing this today, you know? Yeah. And and that is the choice that we
Yeah. And and that is the choice that we have. And look at the choices that
have. And look at the choices that you've made. You've made amazing choices
you've made. You've made amazing choices in your life that are now giving you the
in your life that are now giving you the results that you've always wanted, you
results that you've always wanted, you know, and it's incredible to to think
know, and it's incredible to to think that someone else can do this, you know,
that someone else can do this, you know, like I I made the same choices, right,
like I I made the same choices, right, in my life that I'm like, I don't want
in my life that I'm like, I don't want to be sick. I don't want to take
to be sick. I don't want to take medicine for the rest of my life. I
medicine for the rest of my life. I don't want this disease to,
don't want this disease to, you
you know, like I don't want this condition
know, like I don't want this condition to play my like play out my life. Like
to play my like play out my life. Like this is not I'm not I don't have this
this is not I'm not I don't have this condition, you know. I don't want it.
condition, you know. I don't want it. Yeah. Uh and so that feeling
Yeah. Uh and so that feeling I think you're you're getting it, you
I think you're you're getting it, you know, and you've got it in in a way that
know, and you've got it in in a way that it doesn't control you anymore. This
it doesn't control you anymore. This this way of life has has changed that
this way of life has has changed that for you so much. Uh you know that it
for you so much. Uh you know that it really has. Yeah. It's such a beautiful
really has. Yeah. It's such a beautiful feeling, too, isn't it? When you're when
feeling, too, isn't it? When you're when you're free from from knowing that,
you're free from from knowing that, okay, you're not going to actually be
okay, you're not going to actually be sick because you take control of that
sick because you take control of that and you go, okay, I'm doing certain
and you go, okay, I'm doing certain things that allow me to not feel the way
things that allow me to not feel the way I used to feel. Uh, and it's not like
I used to feel. Uh, and it's not like you're never going to have a bad day,
you're never going to have a bad day, but it's like you can it's you can stay
but it's like you can it's you can stay on top of it, right? You don't let the
on top of it, right? You don't let the bad days get even worse.
bad days get even worse. That's right. you're able to regulate
That's right. you're able to regulate your emotions a bit more, I think. Yeah.
your emotions a bit more, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think let let's just
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think let let's just finish up, I guess, and and just touch
finish up, I guess, and and just touch on um like what your life is like now.
on um like what your life is like now. Um I guess some of the work that you've
Um I guess some of the work that you've been doing uh going and traveling in
been doing uh going and traveling in Australia and and you know, talk talk
Australia and and you know, talk talk about that experience and and talk about
about that experience and and talk about the foods that you've been able to eat
the foods that you've been able to eat and like how happy you are with what you
and like how happy you are with what you what what you're doing. Yeah. Yeah.
what what you're doing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Um yeah, look, my life
Yeah. Thank you. Um yeah, look, my life now looks remarkably different to what
now looks remarkably different to what it did um I would say even 6 months ago
it did um I would say even 6 months ago to a year ago. Like it's just um been
to a year ago. Like it's just um been remarkably better um in every which way.
remarkably better um in every which way. Um and I guess I'll start by sort of
Um and I guess I'll start by sort of saying my mental health has improved
saying my mental health has improved massively. Um I don't feel anxiety
massively. Um I don't feel anxiety anymore. I don't have that sense of
anymore. I don't have that sense of fear. Um, I have days where I'm like,
fear. Um, I have days where I'm like, you know, I feel down or I feel a bit,
you know, I feel down or I feel a bit, you know, I think we all have those.
you know, I think we all have those. But, um, that was my everyday for a long
But, um, that was my everyday for a long time. And so I think my body was in
time. And so I think my body was in this, um, I guess this state of protect,
this, um, I guess this state of protect, protect, protect. Um, and so that really
protect, protect. Um, and so that really didn't help help me at all. um I was
didn't help help me at all. um I was always sort of that living in that fear
always sort of that living in that fear like what if you know what if my body
like what if you know what if my body doesn't come out of this or you know all
doesn't come out of this or you know all these what ifs like really thinking
these what ifs like really thinking negatively and so that's really shifted
negatively and so that's really shifted and now I have such a positive outlook
and now I have such a positive outlook um I trust my body I can trust what it's
um I trust my body I can trust what it's going to do um I trust that it's healed
going to do um I trust that it's healed or healing still you know um and that's
or healing still you know um and that's massive like that complete turnaround in
massive like that complete turnaround in my life has been I would say one of the
my life has been I would say one of the things. Um but yeah, I think uh
things. Um but yeah, I think uh physically I'm able to exercise like I
physically I'm able to exercise like I mentioned. I'm able to move. I'm able to
mentioned. I'm able to move. I'm able to travel, you know, with work. Um last
travel, you know, with work. Um last week I was traveling um going to
week I was traveling um going to regional parts of Australia and um
regional parts of Australia and um that's pretty amazing. Like I never
that's pretty amazing. Like I never thought that I'd be able to do that. Um,
thought that I'd be able to do that. Um, and also just like long car trips or,
and also just like long car trips or, you know, without a bathroom nearby,
you know, without a bathroom nearby, like all of those things that you, you
like all of those things that you, you know, get so anxious about when you have
know, get so anxious about when you have um, Crohn's or UC where you're like, you
um, Crohn's or UC where you're like, you know, I I remember I had the the
know, I I remember I had the the bathroom app on my phone, like trying to
bathroom app on my phone, like trying to find like map out where I could
find like map out where I could potentially go if I was away from home
potentially go if I was away from home for like half an hour, just making sure.
for like half an hour, just making sure. like that's a horrible feeling to have
like that's a horrible feeling to have to constantly be worried about that. Um,
to constantly be worried about that. Um, and so yeah, I don't I no longer have
and so yeah, I don't I no longer have that anxiety and that fear of like
that anxiety and that fear of like having to to do all that. I I know I'm
having to to do all that. I I know I'm confident that I don't need to rely on
confident that I don't need to rely on going to the bathroom every 5 minutes.
going to the bathroom every 5 minutes. Not that I ever really did, but I'd have
Not that I ever really did, but I'd have urgencies for sure. Um, and I needed to
urgencies for sure. Um, and I needed to know to feel in order to feel better and
know to feel in order to feel better and to feel okay going out of the house, I
to feel okay going out of the house, I needed to know that they they were there
needed to know that they they were there in place and I knew where they I could
in place and I knew where they I could locate them. Um, I don't have any of
locate them. Um, I don't have any of that anymore. Um, I also am able to um,
that anymore. Um, I also am able to um, you know, exercise whenever I like. Like
you know, exercise whenever I like. Like if I wake up in the morning, I'm like,
if I wake up in the morning, I'm like, "Oh, I feel a bit tired." But e exercise
"Oh, I feel a bit tired." But e exercise seems to help with my fatigue. Um, which
seems to help with my fatigue. Um, which is awesome due to the low iron and um,
is awesome due to the low iron and um, so I'm able to do the things that I have
so I'm able to do the things that I have always wanted to do. Um, and now I'm
always wanted to do. Um, and now I'm able to do them with intent, if that
able to do them with intent, if that makes sense. Like I'm able to
makes sense. Like I'm able to intentionally
intentionally um, exercise. I'm able to intentionally
um, exercise. I'm able to intentionally like uh, go out socially and not worry.
like uh, go out socially and not worry. Um, and and do that with the the best
Um, and and do that with the the best intentions for myself. um like not just
intentions for myself. um like not just go out cuz I you know feel like I can,
go out cuz I you know feel like I can, but like really enjoy the fact that I'm
but like really enjoy the fact that I'm now in such a better place that I can
now in such a better place that I can enjoy myself. I deserve to be able to
enjoy myself. I deserve to be able to enjoy myself without having to think
enjoy myself without having to think about all of these other things worry in
about all of these other things worry in the background. Um you know, as I
the background. Um you know, as I mentioned before, my periods have been
mentioned before, my periods have been better. I'm not, you know, locked in at
better. I'm not, you know, locked in at home thinking, "Oh god, I've got this
home thinking, "Oh god, I've got this pain and I'm not feeling great and I
pain and I'm not feeling great and I can't go out and, you know, that's all
can't go out and, you know, that's all lifted." And I think that's really made
lifted." And I think that's really made me more confident as a person at large.
me more confident as a person at large. But um I think what's really helped um
But um I think what's really helped um me to feel more confident also is the
me to feel more confident also is the fact that um I can now eat what I want.
fact that um I can now eat what I want. like I can have obviously I've stuck to
like I can have obviously I've stuck to the whole foods plant-based diet. Um,
the whole foods plant-based diet. Um, and that's significantly changed my
and that's significantly changed my life. Um, but I can now have what I
life. Um, but I can now have what I want. Like I can go out to, you know, a
want. Like I can go out to, you know, a really nice vegan plant-based
really nice vegan plant-based restaurant. Um, and I can eat foods
restaurant. Um, and I can eat foods there and not feel like, you know,
there and not feel like, you know, guilty or like feel weird about putting
guilty or like feel weird about putting that in my body because I know that I'm,
that in my body because I know that I'm, you know, putting really clean, good
you know, putting really clean, good foods in my body. So, that's changed.
foods in my body. So, that's changed. I'm able to be more social um as well
I'm able to be more social um as well because of that. Um and I've met some
because of that. Um and I've met some really great people through this like
really great people through this like through my, you know, newfound
through my, you know, newfound confidence and the way that I
confidence and the way that I now I'm I'm more open um than I once
now I'm I'm more open um than I once was. And I think that is, you know, I
was. And I think that is, you know, I think that's a massive achievement and a
think that's a massive achievement and a massive um difference in my life. That's
massive um difference in my life. That's what my life looks like now. happy,
what my life looks like now. happy, open, honest. Um, and being able to lead
open, honest. Um, and being able to lead my life with intent. I think that
my life with intent. I think that they're the main things. Um, and I don't
they're the main things. Um, and I don't feel held back by anything or anyone. um
feel held back by anything or anyone. um I'm able to kind of make decisions based
I'm able to kind of make decisions based on me and how I feel and um yeah and not
on me and how I feel and um yeah and not people please or be at the mercy of that
people please or be at the mercy of that anymore because yes you can please
anymore because yes you can please people and I think that's great to do
people and I think that's great to do but not at the detriment of your own
but not at the detriment of your own self. Um and so um yeah my life looks um
self. Um and so um yeah my life looks um like the life I want to lead.
like the life I want to lead. Yeah, well said. Like that that was just
Yeah, well said. Like that that was just amazing and and just the fact that you
amazing and and just the fact that you know the the idea behind the intent of
know the the idea behind the intent of doing something whereas before there was
doing something whereas before there was always something holding you back and
always something holding you back and that was the Crohn's, you know, whereas
that was the Crohn's, you know, whereas now you're you don't need that anymore
now you're you don't need that anymore to get in the way. And that that's huge.
to get in the way. And that that's huge. I think that's I mean I I can say that
I think that's I mean I I can say that for myself too like you know I you
for myself too like you know I you you're in a very good place and you know
you're in a very good place and you know I feel that because I I also am in that
I feel that because I I also am in that place where that that thing the back of
place where that that thing the back of your that monkey on your back is gone
your that monkey on your back is gone you know like it's like it's not it's
you know like it's like it's not it's not there anymore. you don't need to
not there anymore. you don't need to actually worry about all the things that
actually worry about all the things that you you've just talked about, you know,
you you've just talked about, you know, where the toilets are or just not being
where the toilets are or just not being able to get up in the morning and be
able to get up in the morning and be like, "All right, I want to go and do
like, "All right, I want to go and do something." Well, I can't because I
something." Well, I can't because I either and in so much pain or I need to
either and in so much pain or I need to go to the toilet, you know? And that
go to the toilet, you know? And that that's been a a huge revelation for you
that's been a a huge revelation for you and and that like to to just,
and and that like to to just, you know, be able to do anything at any
you know, be able to do anything at any time, you know, that that's that's
time, you know, that that's that's freedom. True freedom right there. That
freedom. True freedom right there. That is true freedom. And it's and it's
is true freedom. And it's and it's freedom that you won't get if you sort
freedom that you won't get if you sort of may have still been taking these
of may have still been taking these medications. I I don't believe it's
medications. I I don't believe it's going to give you the same outlook and
going to give you the same outlook and it's going to be the same uh for you
it's going to be the same uh for you because you I guess you you'd experience
because you I guess you you'd experience what it was like to take the medicine
what it was like to take the medicine and not have that many symptoms, but it
and not have that many symptoms, but it just it's not the same, you know. It's
just it's not the same, you know. It's just not the same. No. No, it's not. No.
just not the same. No. No, it's not. No. Yeah. I was just as I mentioned before
Yeah. I was just as I mentioned before like the you know the first lot of
like the you know the first lot of medication I took I was like is this
medication I took I was like is this what my life is going to look like like
what my life is going to look like like this is worse you know um and so yeah
this is worse you know um and so yeah just questioning that stuff was really
just questioning that stuff was really important but yeah I think at the end of
important but yeah I think at the end of the day you know being cur curious about
the day you know being cur curious about this stuff and and being open I think is
this stuff and and being open I think is the best thing that you can do for
the best thing that you can do for yourself. Yeah. And also take take
yourself. Yeah. And also take take control of of the decisions that you
control of of the decisions that you make. Like I am doing this for myself.
make. Like I am doing this for myself. I'm not doing it for anyone else. You
I'm not doing it for anyone else. You know, I need to do this for myself. If I
know, I need to do this for myself. If I want to get better, it's like I have to
want to get better, it's like I have to make I have to do this. And no one else
make I have to do this. And no one else is here to save me. No one else is here
is here to save me. No one else is here to save me. You know, if if I don't do
to save me. You know, if if I don't do the things that I'm doing, then I'm not
the things that I'm doing, then I'm not going to be where I want to be. And that
going to be where I want to be. And that that goes for anything, isn't it? It's
that goes for anything, isn't it? It's not just healing. It's like if you if
not just healing. It's like if you if you want to do something, you've got to
you want to do something, you've got to go and chase it. You can't just sit
go and chase it. You can't just sit there and be like, "Oh, I let it come to
there and be like, "Oh, I let it come to you." You need to chase it. You need to
you." You need to chase it. You need to go after it and do whatever it takes to
go after it and do whatever it takes to get there, you know? And yeah, you
get there, you know? And yeah, you you're a great example of that because
you're a great example of that because you took a situation, you go, I don't
you took a situation, you go, I don't want to be like this. How could I do
want to be like this. How could I do something about it? Did something about
something about it? Did something about it? And you're in a in a in a beautiful
it? And you're in a in a in a beautiful place right now. and and long may it
place right now. and and long may it continue cuz it will because you're you
continue cuz it will because you're you know the person that you are now it's
know the person that you are now it's totally different to where you were
totally different to where you were before and that change has enabled your
before and that change has enabled your body to work properly you know all your
body to work properly you know all your your cylinders are firing you know and
your cylinders are firing you know and it's not like one's not working properly
it's not like one's not working properly because you understood you knew what to
because you understood you knew what to put you knew what fuel to put in so that
put you knew what fuel to put in so that engine can work to its optimum and
engine can work to its optimum and obviously there's always going to be
obviously there's always going to be room for improvement everywhere in your
room for improvement everywhere in your life and as every year gets
life and as every year gets better, things start to get better. You
better, things start to get better. You know, it works. It works so well that
know, it works. It works so well that you know the fuel that you put in and
you know the fuel that you put in and the mixture that that happens and it
the mixture that that happens and it just all fires and it just all works
just all fires and it just all works better and better and better as you go
better and better and better as you go along. And I think that's something to
along. And I think that's something to look forward to because it's like you're
look forward to because it's like you're in this position. It's like, oh yeah,
in this position. It's like, oh yeah, cool. like I've I've gotten out of a
cool. like I've I've gotten out of a really really sticky
really really sticky situation and like it's like okay as you
situation and like it's like okay as you feel the way you feel you're going to be
feel the way you feel you're going to be like well if I keep continuing to do
like well if I keep continuing to do this I'm going to keep feeling better
this I'm going to keep feeling better you know it's like it never ends um
you know it's like it never ends um so yeah well done well done uh to you
so yeah well done well done uh to you Lissa and I think it it's you know it's
Lissa and I think it it's you know it's telling you can see it like I mean it's
telling you can see it like I mean it's it's for you to see for yourself uh you
it's for you to see for yourself uh you know first and formost most because it's
know first and formost most because it's not about anyone else. It's about your
not about anyone else. It's about your life. It's about you taking control of
life. It's about you taking control of your life and going, "What do I really
your life and going, "What do I really want?" You know? Yeah. And and you've
want?" You know? Yeah. And and you've been able to really see through that and
been able to really see through that and go get it. And and I'm so proud of you.
go get it. And and I'm so proud of you. I'm I'm I'm I'm It's been amazing to to
I'm I'm I'm I'm It's been amazing to to see you flourish, you know, and like to
see you flourish, you know, and like to see you go from where you were to where
see you go from where you were to where you are now, like this bright, you know,
you are now, like this bright, you know, person that like wants to go and do
person that like wants to go and do stuff, whereas before it was more, you
stuff, whereas before it was more, you know, reserved based on, you know, the
know, reserved based on, you know, the things that you you had going for you.
things that you you had going for you. So, um I guess the last thing I' I'd say
So, um I guess the last thing I' I'd say is, uh what would you say to anyone
is, uh what would you say to anyone that's watching this video?
that's watching this video? Yeah, that's a good question. Um, I
Yeah, that's a good question. Um, I would say don't be scared to be open
would say don't be scared to be open to this program. I like please go ahead
to this program. I like please go ahead and reach out to Shmese and Shul at High
and reach out to Shmese and Shul at High Carb Health because uh they will show
Carb Health because uh they will show you a different way. Um they're both
you a different way. Um they're both amazing and um don't be scared of trying
amazing and um don't be scared of trying something different that is outside of
something different that is outside of you know a normal medical system. Um I'd
you know a normal medical system. Um I'd say don't believe everything that you're
say don't believe everything that you're told. Um qu like be there to question
told. Um qu like be there to question that. Um, and yeah, you can still use
that. Um, and yeah, you can still use doctors in certain ways and you know, I
doctors in certain ways and you know, I still go and see my gastro and you know,
still go and see my gastro and you know, she's amazed at how well that I've been
she's amazed at how well that I've been doing. And um, that's all well and good,
doing. And um, that's all well and good, but don't be afraid to question things.
but don't be afraid to question things. Um, and at first I was just, you know, I
Um, and at first I was just, you know, I was in such a bad place that I
was in such a bad place that I was, you know, just taking what the
was, you know, just taking what the doctors said on and following what they
doctors said on and following what they said. But then there was a part of me
said. But then there was a part of me that was like, "No, let's let's see what
that was like, "No, let's let's see what else there is. Let's question. Let's do
else there is. Let's question. Let's do some research. Read." You know, I would
some research. Read." You know, I would say do all of those things for yourself
say do all of those things for yourself because that's important. Um maybe it's
because that's important. Um maybe it's not the avenue you thought you'd go
not the avenue you thought you'd go down, but at least give it a go and be
down, but at least give it a go and be open to to trying. Um reach out to High
open to to trying. Um reach out to High Carb Health. Um I think what's amazing
Carb Health. Um I think what's amazing is is that there's no silly questions.
is is that there's no silly questions. You can probably back that up, Shmese,
You can probably back that up, Shmese, but there there isn't anything silly um
but there there isn't anything silly um about asking different questions.
about asking different questions. They're there for you. Um and they've
They're there for you. Um and they've got your best interest at heart. I think
got your best interest at heart. I think that's what why I loved working with you
that's what why I loved working with you guys is, you know, is because you you
guys is, you know, is because you you offered that, as I said, holistic
offered that, as I said, holistic approach, but also
approach, but also um you know, you guided really well. Um
um you know, you guided really well. Um and so it didn't make me feel nervous or
and so it didn't make me feel nervous or scared. made me feel really good about
scared. made me feel really good about the whole process and now I'm in the
the whole process and now I'm in the best position I can be um because of of
best position I can be um because of of you guys. So I would say um you know
you guys. So I would say um you know really think about um your choices for
really think about um your choices for yourself and and think about what would
yourself and and think about what would work best for you. Um and also um you
work best for you. Um and also um you know in order to get to a really good
know in order to get to a really good place as you said before Shmese you have
place as you said before Shmese you have to go through that uncomfortable stage
to go through that uncomfortable stage and that stage of not feeling so great
and that stage of not feeling so great and not feeling the best. um and you
and not feeling the best. um and you have really horrible days, but um then
have really horrible days, but um then you just have to remember I think that's
you just have to remember I think that's something I forgot along the way was um
something I forgot along the way was um that that's not forever. Um you know
that that's not forever. Um you know that's not a forever feeling. Um if you
that's not a forever feeling. Um if you don't want it to be um so you have the
don't want it to be um so you have the choices um it's what you do with those
choices um it's what you do with those choices and how you make those choices
choices and how you make those choices that really count. So um yeah, be your
that really count. So um yeah, be your be your own advocate I would say.
be your own advocate I would say. Yeah, absolutely. And you hit the nail
Yeah, absolutely. And you hit the nail there. And uh you know, Lissa, you now
there. And uh you know, Lissa, you now have a life after Crohn's, which is
have a life after Crohn's, which is amazing. And I'm so proud of you. And
amazing. And I'm so proud of you. And I'm so grateful that uh you know, and
I'm so grateful that uh you know, and and this is the cool thing about the the
and this is the cool thing about the the work that I do. Like you you become
work that I do. Like you you become friends, you know, and it's great that
friends, you know, and it's great that you you know, I've been able to be part
you you know, I've been able to be part of your life and you've been able to be
of your life and you've been able to be part of mine. And it's so cool to be
part of mine. And it's so cool to be able to like, you know, engage with that
able to like, you know, engage with that and and you know, obviously when if
and and you know, obviously when if you're ever up here in North Queensland,
you're ever up here in North Queensland, far north Queensland, then, you know,
far north Queensland, then, you know, come visit. Um, oh, 100%. I will. Yeah.
come visit. Um, oh, 100%. I will. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so I don't know if I'll
Yeah. Yeah. And so I don't know if I'll come down where you are, but it was
come down where you are, but it was understandable.
understandable. But no, um, yeah, just uh, yeah, thank
But no, um, yeah, just uh, yeah, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you so
you so much for coming on. Thank you so much for, you know, sharing your story.
much for, you know, sharing your story. I'm sure someone out there, you know,
I'm sure someone out there, you know, will will take a look at this and and
will will take a look at this and and really see that, you know, they might
really see that, you know, they might see themselves as well. And I guess
see themselves as well. And I guess that's the whole point of this is to,
that's the whole point of this is to, you know, share people's, you know,
you know, share people's, you know, success and and obviously how they've
success and and obviously how they've been able to do this, you know, and
been able to do this, you know, and and it's it's it's incredible when
and it's it's it's incredible when you've been told that you can't do
you've been told that you can't do something, you know, then you go and do
something, you know, then you go and do it and and you change that for yourself.
it and and you change that for yourself. It's it's that's empowering, isn't it?
It's it's that's empowering, isn't it? It's empowering when you can do that.
It's empowering when you can do that. So, uh really proud of you. Really
So, uh really proud of you. Really thankful that uh you know you you were
thankful that uh you know you you were able to reach out to us and and you know
able to reach out to us and and you know come through and and here you are you
come through and and here you are you know sharing your story. So yeah,
know sharing your story. So yeah, appreciate it and um yeah, just lovely
appreciate it and um yeah, just lovely to see you again and uh yeah, take care
to see you again and uh yeah, take care of yourself and discontinue.
of yourself and discontinue. Yes. Yes, I'll be in touch for sure.
Yes. Yes, I'll be in touch for sure. Thank you so much.
Thank you so much. [Music]
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