This discussion emphasizes the profound energetic and biochemical roles of minerals in human health, moving beyond a simplistic view to explore their intricate interactions and impact on physical and emotional well-being.
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Dr. Robert Celig, welcome back to the show.
show.
>> Thank you for having me.
>> Yeah, everyone seemed to love our
original episode. I had quite a few
requests for having you back on and you
you we could probably do a hundred of
these shows about minerals, but uh for
anybody who didn't listen to that first
show, anyone who's listening can go
check that out. I thought it was a great
show. Um let us let everyone know a
little bit just about your background,
like a quick rundown for anyone who
didn't listen to that first show. Well,
I'm a chiropractor by licensed
profession. I've been in the minerals
space for about 20 years now, and
minerals are my passion. I love
everything about minerals, but my kind
of goal is to introduce people to the
energetics of minerals. So, we're not
looking at minerals as as dead rocks of
uh soulless dust floating in space. I
want to kind of clue people in that
minerals are a cosmic spark that bursts
life to everything. So I want to exalt
our understanding of minerals not just
from a biochemical perspective but from
an energetic perspective from an
astrological perspective. So we really
appreciate these minerals because they
are the spark of life. And then the
great example of the spark of life when
that zinc loaded sperm hits the oam hits
the egg they call that the zinc spark of
life creating life. So minerals really
are dynamic and amazing. So I want to
just introduce the kind of the mineral
space into the energetics of the minerals.
minerals.
>> Yeah. Beautiful. So speaking of just a
little side note, have you seen the the
kind of like the viral video? I don't
know how much you're on social media,
but uh there was like a viral video
showing that zinc spark of life that was
kind of going around there. It was like
probably last year, but seems to get
recirculated every once in a while. It
kind of shows that that the exact spark
you're talking about and they're kind of
breaking down how the zinc is playing
the role in that basically right when
the baby's born, you're already you you
know, the minerals are already
energetically imprinted right there
right from birth. It's pretty crazy.
>> Yeah, absolutely. I mean that that's
I've I always go back and revisit that
one because I'm always fascinating
seeing that spark of life creating a
human being. That's amazing. And that's
why when they say minerals are the
sparks of life. That's the prime
example. Then when you look at
magnesium, you know, there is no life on
planet Earth without magnesium because
that captures the essence of the sun.
Without magnesium, there is no photosynthesis.
photosynthesis.
So our blood is red because of iron. We
also have the copper blue blood and then
we have the green blood. So magnesium,
copper, iron determine the quality, the
the color of the blood depending on what
species you are. And we know that
there's a lot of blueblooded creatures
like the horseshoe crab. Are you
familiar with the horseshoe crab? They
medical science will harvest these
creatures from the ocean, drain their
copper blue blood because they use that
in medical science for you know
vaccinations, experiments because
because it's got the copper amazing
antimicrobial antibiotic properties in
that blood and they sell that blood for
gazillions of dollars and they use it
for all medical testing and you know
development of vaccines and stuff like
that. So, we've been harvesting these
creatures and then they take out 30 to
40% of the blood, throw them back into
the ocean, and they end up dying because
they just removed their vital force,
their blood.
Why don't they just take all the blood
and if if the animals going to die
anyways? It's like
>> medical science is just barbaric on so
many levels with the experiments we do
to, you know, all the creatures on this
planet. So, I don't know why they do
what they do, but my point is showing,
you know, that species has been around
for 450 million years because of its
copper blood being able to survive, you
know, ice ages, species extinctions.
Meanwhile, they keep trucking along.
>> Yeah, that's, you know, those um the
crabs and different, you know, shrimp
and they're actually all pretty copper
rich. um those species
>> they're blue blood like the the the
oyster is you know the oyster is a
classic zinc copper and the that
creature breathes using copper so our
respiration you know is using iron their
blue blood is hemocyanin that's how
they're breathing you know whether it's
the um the molesque or the or the oyster
or the horseshoe crab or um the octopus
you know and then there's some land
creatures. There's a few spiders that
breathe using copper. And that's just
showing how copper and iron have such a
love affair with oxygen. That's why iron
and copper always have to be respected
because of you know their gift is using
the oxygen. But then their curse is all
the oxygen free radical super oxide
annions that they can produce. So that's
why we have to respect iron and copper.
Yeah, that's been all of the all of the
the rave the last few years. Iron,
copper, and a few of us in the mineral
balancing space have also brought in the
heavy metal piece, you know, with the
transparent like aluminum affecting
transparent and the lead, how it affects
the ferroport. So, there's also like
obviously the heavy metals that are
affecting the flux and the transport of
iron as well. else. We've been kind of
trying to bring that in, but copper and
iron obviously do have that beneficial
relationship to one another, but also
the heavy metals can disrupt that kind
of movement as well.
>> Yeah, heavy metals can displace a
nutrient mineral. And when you look at,
you know, zinc is a prime example of
that. When you look on your periodic
table, we have the zinc family, zinc,
cadmium, mercury. Cadmium's bigger,
cadmium's heavier, but cadmium's softer,
so it can bully its way into the enzyme
binding site where zinc is. And let's
say carbonic anhydrates, that enzyme
that regulates CO2 in the body. And so
in a in a zinc deficient soil, the
cadmium can pinch hit, do the job, do
the chemistry of zinc, but eventually
that protein won't be able to fold into
that three-dimensional shape over time.
Then it loses its function while
creating horrific free radicals and
oxidative damage. And then that cadmium
can stay in the kidneys for 30 years
while staying metabolically active
because of the similarities between the zinc.
zinc.
They're both have a valency of a plus
two. So, they're very similar chemically
speaking, but because cadmium is heavier
and it's a toxic metal, but because it's
softer, it gets into the enzyme binding
site and does the chemistry of zinc
until the hoax is exposed, until, you
know, you start to see the damage of
having a heavy metal where a nutrient
mineral should be.
>> Yeah. And that's um I've harped on that
with Clark and we've kind of just you
know broke all the heavy metal and the
ionic mimicry down. I think a lot of my
audience understands that now. But I
always you know good to circle back to
it anyways. But for this episode, I I
really wanted to dive into calcium and
we can get into calcium benefits and you
know calcification and kind of want to
demystify because us in this mineral
balancing space we give lots of calcium
like everybody's getting calcium but
then there's like I know I follow a lot
of other alternative health you know
podcasts and things and calcium
supplements are basically like shunn
they say you never need calcium you know
you'll never have a calcium deficiency
you know and I think that that's of you
Calcium is probably one of my favorite
minerals. It's definitely the most
abundant mineral in the body and I
actually think we need quite a bit of
it. So, I wanted to kind of bring you in
and because I've heard you break down
calcification in some of these topics in
other shows and other social media posts
and stuff and I'm like we need to kind
of demystify
this kind of conversation around linking
calcium supplementation directly to
calcification that you read in like
scientific journals or whatever. think
that one's not necessarily causing the
other, per se. Now, if you're taking
tons of calcium and you're not really
working with the whole mineral system,
potentially that could be an issue, but
I think the way that we work the entire
system is it it happens a lot
differently. So, uh I guess to start off
like what are the benefits of calcium?
Why are we giving calcium supplements?
Why does everyone need them?
>> Calcium like you said, it's the most
abundant of the macro minerals in the
body, you know? So, our body is what?
carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen that
makes up 97% of you. And then the 3% are
the the minerals. And calcium is the
most abundant mineral in the body. And
the function of calcium is for all
metabolically active tissue. Meaning
anytime you think, blink, eat, do
anything, an action potential is going
to, you know, trigger the release of
calcium. So that calcium will influence
all muscles whether it's a cardiac
muscle, smooth muscle or skeletal
muscle. All the firing of nerve
transmission, you need calcium. So when
a nerve is communicating from one nerve
to another, you have that electrical
impulse and it releases the calcium. If
it happens to be at a neuromuscular
junction where we're going to get a
muscle contraction, then the calcium
untethers the vesicle storing the
acetylcholine, then the acetylcholine
goes into the cleft and that's going to
communicate with the neuromuscular
junction, start a another whole wave of
depolarization and then when it hits a
threshold that's going to release the
calcium for contraction. Just think how
important that is in the heart. This is
why calcium is so so important. Now 99%
of that calcium is in the bones mostly
as hydroxyappatite
which is calcium and phosphate. That's
what gives bones its strength, its
integrity, its resiliency and that adds
amazing you know structure and dynamic
to the bony architect is that calcium
phosphate. So that's 99% of where the
calcium is in the bones. that 1% is in
the cells and then.1%
this is the part we're interested in.
It's that.1%
and out of that.1%
some of that calcium is bound to
proteins. Some of that calcium is bound
to an annion like you know bicarbonate
like chloride like sulfate like
phosphate and some of that calcium is
ionic free calcium. That's about 50% of that.1%
that.1%
of the calcium. That's what we're
interested in because if that calcium
gets disrupted th that's your
arhythmias, that's your heart attacks,
that can be nerves firing too quick,
nerves not firing at all. Um that's how
important calcium is. So this is why we
have to understand that calcium is a
major player for all excitable tissue.
Now, so we have to replenish that
calcium because we're going to lose
calcium in the in the stool. we're going
to lose calcium in the kidneys. So, we
have to really understand how important
that calcium is. So, to me, it's an
allstar. It's a big big time allstar.
So, I love calcium and we have to
overcome our fear of calcium because,
you know, without coming in with that
daily calcium because you can have an
oxidized version of that calcium, it
could be bound where it's not being
utilized. So we want to have that ionic
uh calcium available so our nerves can
fire, our heart can fire, our smooth
muscles can fire. So that to me is why
calcium is so so important.
>> Yeah, I agree. I every time I've been on
any other show, I've mostly not mostly,
but you know, bigger shows, I tried to
hammer home the calcium piece a little
bit, but you know quite a bit more than
me. But you know, I just when you start
to research these enzymes and you start
to look at like that acetylcholine
piece, you know, memory, thinking,
blinking, you start to realize how much
more dynamic um these minerals are. And
and when you just like, you know, got
milk ads when you're just talking about
strong bones and you're like, it goes so
much deeper than that. And there's even
like the uh I bring up the the gut
issues where calcium is really good for
tight junctions in the gut, right? And
regulating pH as well. So I think it's
actually overlooked quite a bit for how
functional it is in the gut as well.
>> Yeah, that's one of its function is uh
balancing out the acid base balance
because it's a cation. So it's going to
make sure that we don't become acidic
because life's chemistry, we produce
acids, lactic acid, uric acid,
phosphoric acid, oxalate acids. We
produce acids, nucleic acids. So we got
to be able to deal with those acids and
calcium is a great buffer and so we got
to understand that just think of the
blood sugar issues if when that pancreas
and your eyelets of Langanger that are
making your insulin which requires zinc
to allow that protein to fold into that
three-dimensional shape but to release
the insulin in that's stored in the
vesicle calcium is the impetus that
untethers the vesicle to release the
insulin. So, it's releasing
neurotransmitters, it's releasing
hormones. So, that's the part people
don't think about. And that to me is one
of the most uh foundational pieces of
understanding calcium metabolism and its
job. Not just mineralizing or
demineralizing the bones. You know,
hopefully it's mineralizing the bones,
but sometimes when that calcium
metabolism is off because who regulates,
you know, what three hormones regulate
calcium? parathyroid hormone, vitamin D
and calcetonin. So parathyroid hormone
which is absolutely magnesium dependent.
So that's a big player because when you
have low serum calcium, low blood
calcium on a blood test, you know,
that's going to activate that somehow,
you know, the allseeing brain is going
to send a signal to your parathyroid.
And that parathyroid is going to it's
going to release parathyroid hormone
that's going to go to the kidneys. And
in the kidneys, it will tell the kidneys
to reabsorb the calcium so you don't
piss out the calcium. And then that
parathyroid hormone in the kidneys will
go to that alpha hydroxilase enzyme
that's in making your vitamin D that is
also magnesium dependent. And that al
that that alpha hydroxilase enzyme that
converts your your D into active D. Then
that active vitamin D will go to the
gut. When it goes to the gut, what's it
going to do in the gut? It's going to
increase the channel proteins. It's
going to give you, you know, once that
vitamin D goes to the gut, it's active
vitamin D goes to the gut and it opens
up these transport proteins to allow
blood calcium to get absorbed into an
interosite mostly happening in the dadum
so you can get the calcium in. Then it's
also that vitamin D is also going to
make the protein channels to get the
calcium into the blood. So that's one of
the functions of parathyroid hormone.
It's also going to make kelodulin and
that kelloduline will bind to the
calcium so you can build up the pool
because remember it has a charge. So if
it has a charge you want chemical
neutrality in a cell. So if all that
calcium is flooding in that will change
the pH so it immediately binds to the
calodulin to keep it chemical chemically
neutral so that calcium stores can be
built up. So the parathyroid and vitamin
D are huge, huge players in calcium
metabolism. This is why we got to be
careful with vitamin D supplementation.
And again, I'm not one to say never take
vitamin D. There's a time and place for
vitamin D. Absolutely. Especially when
we're in a four low pattern and we need
that vitamin D coming in. Especially if
we're in a four low pattern and we have
low serum calcium, you better believe
I'm going to put you on some, you know,
good doses of calcium and magnesium and
good doses of vitamin D. So, we got to
remember the magnesium component in this
magnesium is activating the vitamin D in
the liver on the 25th carbon. Then it's
activating the vitamin D in the kidneys
on the first carbon to give you 125 cholifa
cholifa
calcol or calcatriol. And so that's your
active vitamin D. Then that active
vitamin D it exerts its effect uh on a
genomic level. So when that active
vitamin D is made in the kidneys when it
goes to the gut it gets into the
interosite but you need the zinc finger
to get that vitamin D into the nucleus
so then it can be transcribed. You take
the you know the DNA into messenger RNA.
Then that messenger RNA will eventually
enter into a ribosome to be translated
into a protein and then that protein can
make the protein channels to get calcium
into the cell or that protein can make
the calodulin so you can bind the
calcium. So that's some of the, you
know, the amazing stuff of calcium and
how it's regulated via those hormones
and understanding that magnesium
component whether it's in the
parathyroid or in vitamin D. That
magnesium is a big big player in calcium metabolism.
metabolism.
>> Yeah, beautifully said. I actually
wanted to ask your thoughts on vitamin
D. you kind of already broke it down,
but I found that um most people do do
better on, you know, I do 5,000 IUs with
my clients and I actually see calcium
levels come down even with their when
they're taking the vitamin D, especially
because we're using obviously all of the
minerals to work with the entire system
uh because like the sodium and potassium
levels play a role there and we're
always tweaking those. But I find that
the mineral patterns do shift a little
bit better even if someone has a high
calcium level with vitamin D.
Personally, you may look at that a
little bit differently, but um I so I'm
kind of like I used to I was I've been
in both camps. Like I was like always
took vitamin D, then I went antivitamin
D and listened to all the arguments on
the other side. And then I've come back
around with mineral balancing where I've
noticed that vitamin D seems to work and
improve mineral levels quite a bit. And
I think um one thing I thought was
interesting is I I had mercury fillings.
That was kind of part of my healing and
my uh mineral balancing journey and
detoxification. And I do this other scan
called the iligo scan. So I don't know
exactly how accurate their vitamin
statuses are, but I've they have
fluctuated. And after I removed some
mercury, my vitamin D finally shot up on
that ilo skin. So I also think some of
the heavy metals also interact with how
we actually utilize some of that vitamin
D. So that's kind of I think the the
thought process on giving everyone
vitamin D. But you might look at that a
little bit differently. Let me know. You
know, if someone's really in a calcium
shell, what am I worried about?
Metastatic calcium. So, metastatic
doesn't mean cancer. Every disease is
going to metastasize. Let's say you have
a sore throat. That sore throat can
metastasize to an ear infection. It can
go into the sinus as a sinus infection.
It can metastasize to the lungs. So that
metastatic calcium can metastasize to
where you don't want it to go. That's a
big deal. So we got to understand this
metastatic calcium when it when it
deposits where you don't want it to go.
That becomes all your deposition
diseases. That could be the gall stones,
the kidney stones. That could be the
plaquing in the arteries and the veins.
That could be the the cataracts. That
can be plaquing in the brain. That could
be a lot of that calcium deposition into
the joints that we call arthritis. All
these arthritic conditions when you see
the bunions and the bone deformities,
that's calcium laying down, but it's
laying down not the way it should be.
So, who's regulating the bones? It's the
osteoblast and the osteoclass that are
that are modulating the calcium in the
bones. And so, that is a part of that
vitamin D. What's interesting is when
you think of that uh vitamin D how or
how parathyroid hormone affects the
vitamin D but parathyroid hormone when
it affects the kidneys with calcium uh
directly you're going to you're going to
reabsorb the calcium what are you
pissing out when you when that
parathyroid hits the kidneys you're
reabsorbing the calcium but you're
pissing out the phosphate because the
calcium phosphate at that you know
that's is what makes that's hydroxy
appatite that's you know crystals if
that crystal is in the blood that's
going to crystallize the blood. So we
got to so that's why the kidneys will
excrete out the u the phosphate while
retaining the calcium. So if we have
this buildup of metastatic calcium, it
can affect absolutely every
physiological function in the in the
body that we call deposition disease.
And that deposition disease is going to
get us all in the end. From a esoteric
point of view, they call that Saturn Sat
Saturn Saturn alien diseases. That's
diseases of Saturn. Saturn is, you know,
governs calcium. It's the the metal of
calcium is lead. The metal of Saturn is
lead and calcium. And so one is a toxic
metal. One is a nutrient metal. So that
when that calcium goes rogue, that's
Saturn. That's father time. That's
aging. That's death and darkness. Saturn
is furthest from the sun. So it's cold.
It's distant. It's dark. It's father
time. It's aging. It's death. So our
whole goal in mineral balancing is to
keep calcium in check and help to
regulate and modulate calcium with
understanding the mineral grid so that
calcium doesn't precipitate out of
solution and become all your deposition
diseases that get us all in the end.
That's why when I see a high shell, I'm
not going to be giving vitamin D per se
because I know that that calcium is
depositing where it shouldn't be
depositing and it's not depositing in a
good structural manner in the bones.
Hopefully that made sense.
>> Yeah. Yeah, I get it. And it makes
sense. It seems like even with my
calcium shell clients, if I if I work
the entire system, I can still get that
level to come down um without much
issues. So, I mean, different strokes,
different folks. I I get the ideology of
it, but I've just seen with clients and
where where the calcium shell will still
come down even when I'm given vitamin D.
But that's also because we're we're now
there's a couple things you touched on
that we should, you know, break down.
One, you have to be bringing in calcium
and magnesium in the right ratio in that
supplement form, which I think there's a
little bit of back and forth like Dr.
Paul has this 1.6:1 ratio. Um, a lot of
people use 2:1. And I think there's
argument for, you know, anywhere from
like 1.6 to maybe 2.2 or so to one. Um,
anything, you know, so there's
definitely more science kind of shows
like a 2:1, but Dr. Paul has used that
1.6. So over at Veilance, we kind of
stuck with that. But, um, maybe people
do need a little bit more magnesium in
today's world with the magnesium burn
rate and stuff like that. So, what what
kind of ratio do you like with the
calcium and why is that ratio important
as well? You know it it is very
important because we know that magnesium
is very antagonized by a lot of these
toxic metals and especially when we look
at ATP when that three phosphates the
adenos and triphosphate that magnesium
is keeping those phosphates so those
electrons can keep flowing in that
electron transport chain and just we
know that many of these toxic metals can
bully out um the magnesium and then that
slows down the production of ATP. So, I
think that that ratio should be about,
you know, again, it's going to vary. I
usually will go about, you know, a 2:1
ratio where it's always a little bit
more magnesium than calcium. But that
will vary depending on the mineral
pattern. You know, if I see, you know, a
low uh calcium magnesium ratio, maybe I
got to give equal amounts of calcium.
you know, maybe if I see that high
calcium, low magnesium, maybe I'm going
to go to a 3:1 magnesium to calcium
ratio. So, I always keep flexibility in
when I'm prescribing minerals depending
on what I see and how someone responds
to calcium, how someone responds to
magnesium, because you've heard stories
where people just have horrible, you
know, when they take magnesium, it
provokes a lot of weird symptoms in them
and then they freak out about that. But
that's just telling me that your body is
is really crying for the magnesium. Even
though it may cause some weird symptom
as the chemistry gets adjusted to the
magnesium, it's dealing with all the
layers, all the suppression that we've
gone through. But magnesium, when you
think of when you think of death, what
do we call death? Rigor mortise, right?
Okay. What is rigger mortise? That's
when all the calcium floods in. So
that's because the spark of life
magnesium is no longer there to oppose
calcium. So when you die, the spark of
life of magnesium can't oppose calcium.
So when you're dead, all the calcium
channels are open. And then we call that
rigger mortise. That's a that's a stiff
corpse. And that's because magnesium is
no longer there to oppose the calcium.
And that's what we call death. That's
why Saturn, calcium, father, time, death
and darkness. Where magnesium is the
sun. And that's the age-old battle
between the sun and Saturn, between
Jesus and Satan, good and darkness, good
and evil, light and darkness, so forth
and so on. So, I'm a big fan of getting
that right combination of the calcium
and magnesium depending on what I see on
their reports.
>> Interesting. So you you flux it a little
bit depending on what the ratio is. Interesting.
Interesting. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Mhm. Absolutely.
>> That would make a little bit. There are
some patterns where if I see a a really
really skewed calcium to magnesium
ratio, I'll add in a little extra
magnesium. So I'm not totally just stuck
on one ideology for sure. I think there
are time and place where some people
could use a little extra magnesium on
top of the Calmax supplement that I'm
already um giving to them as well. So
there's definitely case by case basis as
you're looking through the stuff or or
if I sometimes I'll just start with the
cal mag and sometimes they respond
really quickly to that and then I'm like
okay they can just do that but if they
kind of hit a plateau or they get stuck
with that kind of um extreme elevation
in the cal mag ratio then that's where I
might pull out you know little extra
magnesium from bioptimizers or something
like that to try to see if we can't get
that to kind of balance a little bit
more. Um because I do think there are,
you know, there's so many things in
today's world that are different than
even Dr. Paul X world from, you know,
EMFs and just we're looking at screens
all day. I mean, there's a lot going on
um that can um potentially maybe maybe
we're burning through more magnesium or
maybe it's messing with that calcium
flux. I know EMFs are pretty big on
messing with those uh calcium gated ion
channels and stuff like that. Would do
you think EMFs play a role in in how
calcium is regulated?
>> Sure. You know, because when you look
at, you know, the sodium, the gated
sodium channels, the gadium potassium
channels, the gated calcium channels,
it's all an electrical grid. We're an
electrical body. So understanding all
the electrical frequencies, you know,
whether it's coming from the phones or
whether it's coming from, you know, the
radiation out in the atmosphere, it's
affecting the mineral grid on some way
or some level. And I always say that
magnesium is the quarterback in the
mineral matrix. So that's why I put a
little bit more emphasis on magnesium
because magnesium is the sun. Everything
rotates around the sun. So that's why I
say everything rotates around magnesium
in us. So that's why I I put a little
bit more emp emphasis on magnesium
knowing how the metals, the radiation,
the chemicals, the glyphosates all
chelate out magnesium. It chilates out
other minerals, but magnesium is
affected profoundly by the toxins we're
bombarded with in this day and age. So
that's why I'll put a little bit more of
a spotlight on magnesium. And then I'll
use magnesium as a tissue salt, too. So,
you know, I'll use many tissue salts to
help add intelligence into the mineral
matrix, whether I'm using the calcium
family of tissue salts or the magnesium
family or whatever, just to add
intelligence from an energetic perspective.
perspective.
Yeah, the the tissue salts I still never
gotten into, but what I've been doing um
actually lately with some clients
because some of the veilance products
that we put out are as you know that we
use like the most bioavailable form. So
obviously they're they're you know
they're stronger. Mineral balancing
without veillance is already strong
because you're kind of starting to turn
on all these systems all at once. We're
helping the liver, the kidneys, you
know, all these enzymes fluctuating
sodium potassium ratio. We're doing so
much all at once. So, I've been doing
kind of where just telling clients in
the beginning if they're sensitive and I
can tell that they're going to be
sensitive due to their intake or
whatever just to break the capsules open
and just sprinkle a little bit in water
and it's almost like it's not
homeopathic technically, but it's kind
of like just getting the body used to
the energy of those minerals coming in.
And if they just kind of do that a few
times throughout the day where they're
not even taking one capsule of
everything, just kind of these micro
doses over time, they start to, you
know, build up the tolerance and next
thing you know, they're on a couple caps
a day. you know, they start to build up
to those full doses over time. So, I've
been kind of using not tissue salts, but
in a way kind of like a micro dose, not
not quite homeopathic, but you know,
definitely a micro dose of the minerals
in the beginning. Yeah, that's brilliant
because you just can't come in with
heroic doses of a mineral to the
sensitive ones because that's going to,
you know, then they'll get sick and then
they'll never want to take a mineral
again. So, you start micro doing the
crude dose of the mineral. So, I have a
stroke patient who can't take anything.
You know, a he can't swallow. Um, and so
he's he he's a mess on many many levels.
But what I have him doing, I have him
taking the liquid zinc and he's just
putting one drop in his water. Now,
that's, you know, you need a full
teaspoon to get one dose zinc. So, we're
micro doing the zinc while I'm giving
him the tissue salt, zinc chloride as a
tissue salt and then I'm giving him
mostly tissue salts because he can't
swallow pills and he can't handle the
taste. So, he's very sensitive and just
giving him micro doses of the minerals,
a little bit of calcium, a little
magnesium, a little zinc and micro dose
while coming in with the tissue salts.
He's been able to get like full nights
of sleep and really stabilize. He I
mean, he's miles away from perfect, but
his symptoms have incre have improved
dramatically just being able to not piss
every two minutes when he's in bed. Just
being able to get a full eight hours of
sleep, that to me is a home run on that
alone. Granted, we got a lot more work
to do, but micro doing the minerals,
coming in with the tissue salts has been
my way of improving him. You know,
again, the improvement is small, but
these are the little baby steps we take.
So, I love your strategy with micro
doing of the crude mineral, you know, to
the sensitive patients. I think that's beautiful.
beautiful.
>> Yeah, I've been starting people on one
dose a day, you know, Dr. PC and the old
mind frame was like three doses a day,
sometimes two. Um, so I've been kind of
just just telling everybody to start
with one and then if they're even
sensitive just to the one dose a day,
then I'm like, okay, now we're going to
go into this micro doing phase. Um,
because people you just like you said,
they start to get bloated, feel
terrible. The you're just doing so much
all at once with mineral balancing and
it's like, okay, let's see what we can
do. And usually the clients um who do
the micro doses, they don't get as bad
as those like early detox symptoms and
they kind of just get into a rhythm like
you said, they start to notice some
benefits but without really disrupting
the system. And I agree with you, we
still have a ways to go. You shouldn't
be that sensitive to the minerals. We're
going to have to build up over time, but
taking it low and slow and not rocking
the boat too fast has kind of been some
of one of my one of I just realize how
toxic people are in today's world
compared to what probably it used to be.
And um not everybody's as crazy as me. I
would just take full doses of the
minerals all the time and never care and
just do the enemas and the sauna. I was
like, "Oh, I didn't care how bad I
felt." But I I like looking back, I'm
like, clients don't want to feel like
that. Like the way I was feeling for the
first couple years, like clients do not
want to feel like that at all. So, you
got to kind of, you know, meet them
where they're at.
>> Yeah. Especially children. You know,
when you give some zinc or copper to
children, it causes the nausea, the
stomach cramping, the horrible metallic
taste. They hate taking zinc. They hate
taking copper. So I had this family of
three kids where their zinc was at five,
one kid was at five, one zinc was at
six, one was at seven. Five, six, seven
for the three kids. I couldn't give them
zinc and crude dose, but I did give them
zinc as a tissue salt. And then when I
retested them, it was actually on the
not the second retest, but the third
test about a year later, their zinc went
from a five to an eight. One went from a
seven to a 10. One went from, you know,
uh, a seven to 11 ju without giving them
zinc. Only the tissue salt, zinc
chloride as a tissue salt, because they
couldn't take it. So, just moving the
needle on zinc when it's that critically
low and we know how important zinc is
for, you know, for everything. Now,
here's a test question for you.
According to the international unit,
international biochemistry that
establishes the the excuse me, the
enzymes, there's six classes of enzymes.
What's the only mineral that's in all
six classes of enzymes according to the
International Biochemistry Union?
>> I would have to guess zinc.
>> Zinc, it's the only mineral.
>> When you research zinc, it's unlimited.
>> So, it's going to be in in redux
chemistry. like hydrolaces
and you know uh all the six classes the
isomerases so zinc is an allstar for all
six classes of enzymes and when you know
how important that zinc is and they and
the kids can't take it that's where I
love those tissue salts for increasing
you know the intelligence of zinc metabolism
metabolism
have you ever looked into um you sound
like you use some liquid but I there's
uh some liquid nanos that I like and
they don't have much of a taste which
has been cool. I give some of them to my
son. He can't taste them at all. Like I
give him the iodine, the selenium. It's
called upgraded formulas. I had Barton
on my show before. I don't agree with
some of his ratios on some of his
products, but like the standalones like
zinc or copper um or selenium, if you're
trying to give those in singularity and
you just want to do like a micro dose or
a few drops like I'm doing with my son,
those are really great because they
can't taste them at all. I don't know
what he's done to the taste. And they're
also in nano form, which um you know,
obviously he clearly says that they're
more bioavailable that way because
they're like ultra nano. Um so those
have been cool. I've used some of those
with kids and it seems like they can get
past the taste a little bit. And cuz I
do think the the more metallic, the kind
of zinc and the copper are the ones that
they can taste the most. It seems like
if I give my kid calcium calm mag, he
doesn't really care. But um some of
these other kids when they get into the
zinc and the coppers, they can taste
Yeah. Um I I use a lot of liquid
minerals, especially with children,
especially with the elders because, you
know, they're they're compromised. They
they have a hard time swallowing. You
know, the seniors can't swallow the
pills. The children hate swallowing.
They hate the taste. So, yes, I use a
lot of the liquid minerals with certain
populations. And so I'm not familiar
with the brand or that you're
highlighting, but yes, I personally will
use a lot of the liquid minerals in
certain populations. And again, starting
with micro dosing just to start building
up the grid.
>> Yeah, that's where where I think it
comes into play really well for kids who
don't want to taste it. And then also
for if you want just like a micro dose,
especially with those nanos, you kind of
got to go lower anyways because the
bioavailability is really good. Uh, one
thing I wanted to touch on was um the
sodium to potassium levels on the hair
test and how those affect calcium.
Because I think when we're um just
talking about calcium and calcium
supplementation, someone may be like,
"Oh, sounds like I just need more
calcium, but they're not actually
working with the entire HTMA and working
with the entire system." So, how
important are getting those sodium and
potassium levels in the right range and
in the right ratio to calcium
utilization as well? It's huge, you
know. Um, that's why they call sodium
potassium the life or death ratio. I
don't know if they use that term
anymore. Um, you know, but it it is just
that. And so sodium and potassium set
that whole electrical grid for the for
the body, you know, that starts the
whole wave of depolarization.
You know, that's the electrical body we
are. So understanding how important
sodium and potassium are in the body and
how that's affecting all the whole thing
because sodium potassium are keeping the
calcium and magnesium in solution so it
doesn't precipitate out of solution and
when those minerals precipitate out of
solution that you know they're going to
bind to something you know whether it's
an oxalate causing a kidney stone
whether it's a phosphate causing the
hydroxyappatite in the bone bones to be
disregulated causing the great
calcification the arthritic bones. So
sodium potassium are critical. That's
why we understand zinc effect on sodium,
copper's effect on sodium and
understanding maganese effect on sodium
and then understanding how important
that sodium potassium ratio is with
those two macro minerals calcium and
magnesium. in calcium and magnesium. All
excitable tissues. You know, when a
muscle contracts, that's calcium. When
it relaxes, that's magnesium. Whether
it's in a skeletal muscle, heart muscle,
or smooth muscle. Look at all the smooth
muscles, you know, whether it's, you
know, the uterus when women get their
horrible period cramps. That's a calcium dysregulation
dysregulation
and or a magnesium deficiency causing
the horrible cramping in the menstrual
cycle. And that's going on 24/7. And
that's going to be copper related as
well because during the menstrual cycle,
we know that copper is a big big player
in the estrogens. And so when when we
are in a copper overload, calcium is
going to go high to kind of protect you
from the ravages of copper because
copper is, you know, it's the most
emotional mineral. It's the most
electrical nutrient mineral. So when we
think of who moves electrons better than
anything, it's copper. That's why
electricians use copper wiring. We know
silver is the best conductor of
electrons bar none. But silver is not a
nutrient mineral. The next best one is
copper. So we know how powerful copper
is in moving the electrons. And copper
in a copper overload, that's going to
raise the calcium. So calcium can kind
of buffer the effects of that high
energy of copper. So there are huge
relationships which makes mineral
balancing to me one of the greatest
sciences we have to help regulate the
mineral grid so we can slow down you
know calcium metabolism going rogue so
we don't get all the Saturn diseases the
deposition diseases that will get us all
in the end. So yes, ratios are
absolutely important.
>> Yeah, the ratios between everything
matter a lot and it's all these other
minerals that have to come into play
with it and you know even you know when
the calcium goes low and the magnesium
goes low and then you have that high
sodium potassium and you're looking at a
more fast oxidizer state that's when we
bring even in a little bit higher levels
of calcium. We're trying to get that
calcium to go back up with that copper.
And so people don't realize how like
intertwined all the minerals are. They
just kind of look at it at a very base
level. They don't understand like I, you
know, I'll get some reports of people in
fast oxidation coming from a different,
you know, practitioner or program and
they don't have any calcium on their
fast oxidizer program. Sometimes they
won't have any copper. I'm like, I I
don't understand what what exactly
they're trying to achieve here. I'm not
trying to knock anyone, but I'm like, I
don't think that certain practitioners
sometimes understand all of the the
reasons why certain nutrients are given
to different oxidation rates and for to
try to balance out the ratios and to to
kind of raise things, but that copper is
really critical for calcium as well.
>> Absolutely. You know, and I always say
why why do we think uh copper is the
most disregulated metal in all of human
physiology? Because to me, you know, you
see so many copper dysregulation
problems and that dysregulation could be
a copper deficiency. It could be bio
unavailable copper, you know, where the
copper is there but it just can't be
utilized. And so we see that copper is
the most disregulated metal in all of
human physiology. And you know, my three
main reasons why is because a we're in
the bronze age, which is 90% copper.
We've been in the Iron Age for the last
2,000 plus years. We've just
transitioned into the bronze age. So
copper will be the leading lady in this
epoch. So that's on an energetic level.
Then we're running our pipes through
copper piping. So we're getting that
free ionic copper from the copper piping
where it's bypassing digestion. it's
getting immediately absorbed into the
blood. And then to me, the third most uh
pressing area why we got a copper
dysregulation is because of all the fake
estrogens. So when you look at all the
fake estrogens, the xenoestrogens,
metalloestrogens, the glyphosates, the
atrizines, the BPAs, all those mimic
estrogen and that as they mimic
estrogen, it causes copper retention. So
when you add up the normal age related
estrogens, then the phytoestrogens that
we get from food, typically the body can
handle that. But then you throw in the
impostors, the fake xenoestrogens that
tips the scale to an estrogen dominant
population that causes copper retention.
And that copper retention is going to be
the devil if we don't deal with it
because of its ability to create
hydroxal radicals of the worst kind. So
that's why I believe that copper is the
most disregulated metal because of the
bronze age because of the water the
copper piping and because of all the
fake estrogens causing to me the number
one disregulated metal of copper.
>> Yeah, I agree. It's it's funny the you
know I you know wanted to stick on
calcium but I got to sidetrack a lot of
the kind of spiritual energetic
community they're getting into like
literally using copper for all of their
drinking you know they're drinking water
they got these giant copper tins and
because of the energetic properties and
I'm like you probably don't want to do
that you know maybe back in the day that
was okay but with the amount of
disregulated copper that we see come out
of clients I'm sure you see it a lot and
I know you've talked about your journey
with with a lot of bio unavailable
copper coming out in your own journey.
You told us on the on the last show. Um
I'm like I don't think bringing in, you
know, drinking all of your water out of
these copper mugs and jugs, these old
artisian looking they look really cool
and fancy and I'm sure the energetics
are there. Um but to be drinking all of
your water out of that I think is harmful.
harmful.
>> I agree. I mean there's a time and place
for everything. So in most of the in
most of our population because of the
copper overload, I'm going to respect
copper. So I'm not going to really go
crazy with, you know, drinking copper or
wearing copper bracelets. Although I'll
wear silver brace bracelets cuz I love
silver. Um, but you know, sometimes you
can wear a copper bracelet for arthritic
pains. We've heard of that through the
ages. And there is truth in that because
that copper is helping with the collagen
synthesis and the you know the cross
linking of the collagen so the bones
aren't going all over the place so you
have integrity you know and strength in
your connective tissues. So there is a
place for that because copper in its
ability and its love affair with oxygen
we have to respect it because copper's
end game is going to be um when we look
at copper its end game is apoptosis. So
apoptosis is programmed cell death. So
with the cancer apoptosis isn't working.
So then the cells keep you know growing
and dividing growing and dividing until
you have a you know a a cancer lesion.
Then the other end of the spectrum is
when apoptosis works too quick too fast
and that's all your brain diseases
killing the neurons in your brain. That
could be the Parkinson's the MS that
could be you know all the brain sility
diseases and stuff like that. So if we
don't deal with copper today, its
endgame is a a disregulated apoptosis
where if it's if it's too fast, we get
the cancers or if it doesn't work, we
get the cancers. If it's too fast, we
get the brain diseases. So th that's
where copper's endgame is profound. And
this is why understanding copper, you
know, so we don't, you know, so we're
not a pennywise pound foolish and we
take the copper and it gets the energy
going and it's like a heavy metal
creating a a stimulant in us and we feel
good taking it temporarily until the
reserves build up where it oxidizes
everything in its pathway.
>> Yeah. The the other um trend I would say
before I'll jump back to calcium in just
a second, but the other trend that I
think is potentially harmful um is
eating tons and tons of beef liver in
today's um space. There's a lot of
copper in there and I think if you have
that low sodium potassium ratio, I think
you're probably going to feel good on
that for a period of time. But there is
definitely a potential for that copper
overload to happen. If you start eating
two, three, 4 ounces a day, watching
these liver king videos and every
supplement that you take has, you know,
raw like liver caps and people are doing
both. They're like having raw liver
smoothies and then they're doing liver
capsules on top of it. And I used to be
kind of in that camp where I took a lot
of uh beef liver myself um until I got
into mineral balancing. But that's
another trend that I think um without
you know at least checking your HGMA
periodically and paying attention uh
where you could end up with some copper
overload. Even though liver is very
nutritious and I love I love it. I just
think people are kind of overdoing it.
>> Yeah. When you look at most of the farm
animals, are they drinking clean water?
No. Most of your antibiotics go into
every farm animal, whether it's
grass-fed, organic, or this. By FDA law,
they, you know, they're most of your 50%
of all your antibiotics are going into
your farm animals again, whether they're
organic or not. So, we're getting all
these xenoestrogens. We're getting all
this copper. So, the liver is the last
thing I would ever want to eat because
that's where most of the blood is going,
most of the toxins are going. So, the
last thing, unless it's a game, you
know, a wild hunted animal that isn't on
a farm, then I know that they're going
to be clean and safe and the liver will
be good. But if you're just getting
local whatever farm animal of liver to
me, it's going to be very toxic because
the the liver is doing the
detoxification. And so, you know, are
you feeding that animal, you know, pure
pristine water? No, you're not. you
know, you're giving them the fluoridated
tap water with all the chemicals and
garbage in it. So, I'm not a big fan of
liver unless it's coming from game.
>> Yeah, that that's another thing that I
think um is overlooked in farming. I
talk about farming quite a bit on my
show is I don't bring this up much, but
even grass-fed, they're usually have
water. So sometimes it's coming from a
stream or you know some kind of spring
if depending on the location of the farm
but a lot of these farmers are just
giving them water and are they spending
thousands and thousands of dollars on
high quality filtration? You know how
many gallons like cows you need for
water? Like you need a pretty heavy duty
filtration um to give them really clean
pristine likeur you know clean water.
And so you you're going to get all of
the all of whatever depending on your
locality, municipality, what's in there,
but pretty much all of them are
terrible. They're using aluminum in
there. There fluoride in there. There's
just whatever different drugs that
people pee out are in there. Tap water's
crazy. So that your cow is going to be
like this. So that's why you have to be
uh it took us a while to find um some
some quality bone powder over at
Veilance that would didn't have u didn't
have alarming uh amounts of lead in
them. And these are even like grass-fed
bone powders. You know, they still have
quite a bit of lead coming from that
bone powder. So you have to be, you
know, pretty particular about some of
your sourcing as well. And the the guy
up the street who doesn't use
antibiotics and does grass-fed, that
doesn't necessarily mean he's filtering
the tap water,
>> right? that see that's a big thing that
goes under the radar and still every you
know the FDA is still regulating you
know the organic farms the non-organic
farms and they're all you know just if
you're going to take your dog out to the
park your dog still has to have the the
the tags meaning it's been to the vet
and it's had this shot and that shot and
this shot or you can't walk your dog in
the city you know the same thing with
all the farm animals so you know this is
you know these you know what they're
injecting these animals with. Even if
they're organic, they're still being
infiltrated with some of this garbage.
Of course, it's a lot better than, you
know, the organic is a thousand times
better than the nonorganic, but still
there's still an exposure of the
chemicals and the metals and the bad
drinking water that they're being
exposed to. So, yes, that has to be
calculated into what we're taking. So,
coming back to just the liver, that's
why I'm not a big fan of eating liver
from an animal unless I've hunted the
animal myself.
>> Good for you. Okay, I want to circle
back to the calcium and talk about some
of the calcium issues here or just kind
of some more blanket questions that are
I'm sure people are wondering. Like, do
you have a recommended like RDA on
calcium? I'm sure it's obviously
fluctuates with sensitive clients. they
can't take as much of any mineral. But,
you know, for the average human who's
relatively healthy, I I find it
interesting the the argument around not,
you know, not supplementing calcium when
the RDA is, you know, which we usually
say is pretty low. We take well over the
RDA of zinc, well over the RDA of
magnesium, of iod of pretty much every
mineral across the board. But then when
it comes to calcium, some people aren't
even eating dairy and they're like, "Oh,
I don't need a calcium supplement." when
the RDA is actually 1,200 milligrams per
day, which is actually, you know, kind
of hard to achieve unless you're
pounding like a bunch of raw dairy,
unless you're taking a supplement. And
and if so, if we're going by the same
kind of level playing field that the RDA
is low, I would think that maybe even
the RDA for calcium is low. What's your
thoughts around like, you know,
milligram dosage per day on calcium? You
know, I I don't remember the milligrams
off the top of my head, but I'm pretty
aggressive with calcium and magnesium
all day long. So, what's the RDA? It's
like 1,000 milligrams. You know, I know
it's going to be for growing kids, it's
going to be a little bit more. Pregnant,
it's going to be, you know, a little bit more.
more.
>> I think it's around 1,200 for calcium. I
can't remember magnesium, but
>> I'm usually, you know, anywhere from I'm
probably about tripling that dose.
>> You know,
>> you're going up that high.
So, it could be, again, triple would be
like on the high end, but it's going to
be anywhere from, you know, a,000
milligram supplementation to 2,000 to
3,000 milligrams of supplementation. So,
when when the body wants that calcium
and you're not giving it to it from a
nutritional perspective, whether diet or
supplement, the it's going to go to the
bone. It's going to start osteoclastic.
it's going to start breaking down the
bone to get the calcium into the blood.
So, we don't want to mess with the
bones. You know, the bones are one of
the most important things. You know, the
bones, you know, that's where your
marrow is, that's your immune system,
that's the, you know, it's got
everything your from the white blood
cells, the red blood cells. So, the
bones are a big big deal. The last thing
you want to do is go to the bones to
start, you know, breaking down bone to
get that calcium out. So, I think
supplementation is important. And I'll
go pretty aggressive with calcium
depending on, you know, do I see low
blood calcium? Do I see, you know, a
four low? Do I see um, you know, high,
you know, high sodium potassium, low
calcium, magnesium? So, I can go pretty
aggressive with my calcium depending on
what I see. Did I answer that question?
>> Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I just think
that with um you know, a lot of clients
you you are shuttling out some of those
they have so much lead and you know,
cadmium and stuff in them that sometimes
it just pushes out um at least I found
that with the with the with our veilance
subs it can push out metals a little too
fast. So, you do have to kind of still
start it low. But I think the goal is to
to pretty much increase I take a pretty
hefty amount of our Calmac Fusion per
day. I would say far over the RDA and I
even like to drink my local raw A2 milk
as well and have yogurt.
>> How much do you go over the RDA?
>> Um I find that with the bioavailability
of Calac Fusion I can be at like 1,500
maybe 2,000 but then I also got a little
bit of raw milk coming in. I also weigh
225 lbs. I don't know. I mean I I think
that matters. Some people don't, but I'm
like I'm I'm definitely twice the size
of my wife. So, I would think that I
would need more calcium coming in to
kind of complete all of my bone
structures and all of my enzymes. So, I
kind of do feel like I'm on the higher
end of what people do, but also I
probably couldn't have took that dose
when I first started. It would have
probably shattered me, you know. So, I
think I was at like 600 milligrams or so
in the beginning. Um, you know, and some
and some like sardines and raw dairy. So
obviously some more coming in through
diet and the more I detox and the more I
push things out then I could increase
it. I just have to keep it a little bit
lower for some clients especially with
that that KAC Fusion seems to be our
strongest supplement. Um that's that's
the one that rocks the boat. I don't
know if it's that orate that's in there
or what what's going on but uh if I go
too high on that every every client will
quit the program. So I do take that into
into accountability as well.
>> And again I always like to start low
build them up. So, you have to see how
people are going to respond to whatever
mineral supplement you're giving them.
You have to see how they respond and
then you can increase the dose as they
get acclimated to whatever you're giving
them. So, I do like that approach. Start
easy, build them up, and just see how
they're responding, you know, and
everyone's going to react a little bit
differently. And so, do you use blood to
look at calcium as well?
>> I don't use blood as much. I when I was
really sick, I got a lot of blood work
that didn't get me very far. I know you
I think there are some good markers
there. I have heard that, you know, I
don't know if this is true. You look at
more blood than me. Maybe you could
speak on it, but the blood calcium
usually looks pretty good because of
that kind of ideology that we can kind
of keep leeching it from bone. Do you do
you find that the calcium stays pretty
regulated in blood or do you see
imbalances there?
>> I see a lot of low calcium in the blood. >> Wow.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah. So that's why, you know, so I'm
looking at the functional ranges on the
blood test and I'm seeing a lot of
people, you know, when their, you know,
blood chemistry comes back, I'm seeing
low calcium, you know, and then I may
see low calcium and high vitamin D on a
blood test, you know, so that's telling
me that, you know, the vitamin D isn't
being activated properly because of a
magnesium deficiency, because of a zinc
deficiency. And so I like to always look
at the blood levels of where things are
at so I get a perspective so I can you
know correlate that to the hair test and
then I have more information coming to
me. You know then you look at you know
if someone has that high insulin and and
they got the low calcium remember you
need that calcium to untether the
vesicle that stores the insulin. So
that's why you want to be able to look
at, you know, multiple perspectives,
whether it's blood, hair, urine, you
know, stool, so we get a good variety of
different markers that help to paint a
biochemical picture of where someone is at.
at.
>> Yeah, I agree. And you know, it's so
some people make the argument that, you
know, I do love raw dairy. I think it's
high bioavailability
as far as the calcium goes, right, in
that ionic form. I think it's utilized
really, really well. And but to, you
know, when you start to try to get into
some of the dosages that we're talking
about here, it's it's a a lot of
calories. So hopefully you got a good uh
got a good workout program going on
because I'm looking at like milligrams
of calcium and how much like calories
I'm going to put in from milk to try to
achieve that. It's it's quite
remarkable. Um so it's pretty high on
the calorie route, but also a lot of clients can't even tolerate not even raw
clients can't even tolerate not even raw dairy. They can they like go out of
dairy. They can they like go out of their way sometimes. I'm sure you see
their way sometimes. I'm sure you see this if they're in burnout and you know
this if they're in burnout and you know they got a lot of symptoms going on they
they got a lot of symptoms going on they they have trouble digesting the dairy so
they have trouble digesting the dairy so you can't even really you can't rely on
you can't even really you can't rely on that anyways. Um so I think that you
that anyways. Um so I think that you know that's where the calcium
know that's where the calcium supplementation is really critical.
supplementation is really critical. >> Yeah. I mean you know most people you
>> Yeah. I mean you know most people you know their stomachs aren't making the
know their stomachs aren't making the stomach acid the pancreatic juices
stomach acid the pancreatic juices aren't pumping out the pancreatic
aren't pumping out the pancreatic juices. The liver and the bile is all
juices. The liver and the bile is all stagnant. So our digestion is
stagnant. So our digestion is compromised on many many ways. So that
compromised on many many ways. So that means that when we're taking some raw
means that when we're taking some raw stuff, we don't have the enzymes to
stuff, we don't have the enzymes to really break the stuff down, then we get
really break the stuff down, then we get symptom A, B, and C. Meanwhile, we got
symptom A, B, and C. Meanwhile, we got stagnant livers. And when the liver is
stagnant livers. And when the liver is stagnant and starting to calcify, then
stagnant and starting to calcify, then that can affect the pancreas because the
that can affect the pancreas because the pancreas and the liver are connected at
pancreas and the liver are connected at the common bile duct. So a lot of the
the common bile duct. So a lot of the gall stones can get into the into the
gall stones can get into the into the pancreas causing a pancreatitis you
pancreas causing a pancreatitis you know. So these are the things that we
know. So these are the things that we start to look at how do we improve
start to look at how do we improve calcium metabolism fix digestion you
calcium metabolism fix digestion you know fixing digestion on many levels
know fixing digestion on many levels from detoxification because you got to
from detoxification because you got to get the glyphosate out. You got to get
get the glyphosate out. You got to get the metals out. You got to start getting
the metals out. You got to start getting that zinc on board so you can actually
that zinc on board so you can actually make stomach acid. You need that zinc to
make stomach acid. You need that zinc to make your pancreatic juices. So without
make your pancreatic juices. So without the zinc, a lot of the the digestive
the zinc, a lot of the the digestive functions are compromised. And then if
functions are compromised. And then if we don't have that stomach acid, that
we don't have that stomach acid, that stomach acid, you know, is important for
stomach acid, you know, is important for breaking up, you know, so if you have,
breaking up, you know, so if you have, you know, taking in calcium and it's
you know, taking in calcium and it's chelated to a protein, you got to be
chelated to a protein, you got to be able to free that calcium from the
able to free that calcium from the protein with the stomach acid. So when
protein with the stomach acid. So when it goes into the small intestine then
it goes into the small intestine then you know the proteasis can start
you know the proteasis can start breaking it down even more. But having
breaking it down even more. But having good digestive function is one of the
good digestive function is one of the most important aspects of mineral
most important aspects of mineral balancing.
balancing. Yeah. It's quite remarkable how much of
Yeah. It's quite remarkable how much of you know going back you know dairy is
you know going back you know dairy is just one of the of the kind of common
just one of the of the kind of common food allergies that I see clients get
food allergies that I see clients get rid of if they if they stay on the
rid of if they if they stay on the program long enough. But you'll see I
program long enough. But you'll see I know one of my good friends she got rid
know one of my good friends she got rid of her shrimp shrimp allergy. She's a
of her shrimp shrimp allergy. She's a fellow practitioner. I've seen I've seen
fellow practitioner. I've seen I've seen gluten intolerances go away. Now, gluten
gluten intolerances go away. Now, gluten is just terrible in America. Like I buy
is just terrible in America. Like I buy local sourdough, but you know, if you're
local sourdough, but you know, if you're not doing that and you don't really know
not doing that and you don't really know who's making your bread, it's probably
who's making your bread, it's probably awful. So, that's a whole different
awful. So, that's a whole different story, but you know, I do see like
story, but you know, I do see like people being able to enjoy dessert out
people being able to enjoy dessert out at restaurants here and there or even
at restaurants here and there or even pasteurized dairy if they stay on the
pasteurized dairy if they stay on the program long enough. And it's just kind
program long enough. And it's just kind of wild how once we start to get into
of wild how once we start to get into that burnout and we become so mineral
that burnout and we become so mineral depleted and imbalanced that we can't
depleted and imbalanced that we can't even begin to digest foods. I was I
even begin to digest foods. I was I could only eat like four or five foods
could only eat like four or five foods when I was super sick because everything
when I was super sick because everything I was reacting to veggies and dairy and
I was reacting to veggies and dairy and I couldn't eat eggs. It was it was
I couldn't eat eggs. It was it was crazy. I was like what I got like four
crazy. I was like what I got like four foods here that I can eat every day.
foods here that I can eat every day. >> Yeah. You see as people get healthier,
>> Yeah. You see as people get healthier, you know, then they're able to
you know, then they're able to reintroduce foods that they couldn't
reintroduce foods that they couldn't have that were, you know, verboten. They
have that were, you know, verboten. They can't have it. So they avoided it. But
can't have it. So they avoided it. But as they get healthy, as as the liver
as they get healthy, as as the liver improves, the pancreas improves, the
improves, the pancreas improves, the stomach improves, the minerals are
stomach improves, the minerals are coming on board to influence the enzymes
coming on board to influence the enzymes and making all the goodies for
and making all the goodies for digestion, then they can handle, you
digestion, then they can handle, you know, a lot of the stuff, you know. So
know, a lot of the stuff, you know. So that that's why mineral balancing to me
that that's why mineral balancing to me is one of the greatest. And even when
is one of the greatest. And even when people walk into a mall and they get all
people walk into a mall and they get all the aldahhides and everything from, you
the aldahhides and everything from, you know, Chanel number five or whatever,
know, Chanel number five or whatever, you know, all these chemicals getting
you know, all these chemicals getting into, they get headaches because they
into, they get headaches because they don't have the enzymes to break down
don't have the enzymes to break down these aldahhides. And that means, you
these aldahhides. And that means, you know, they they're getting symptoms on a
know, they they're getting symptoms on a dime. But as they get healthier now,
dime. But as they get healthier now, they can walk into a department store
they can walk into a department store and they can go down the, you know, the
and they can go down the, you know, the Clorox aisle and they don't get a
Clorox aisle and they don't get a headache from the fumes, you know,
headache from the fumes, you know, offging in some big box store or you can
offging in some big box store or you can walk into, you know, a perfume factory
walk into, you know, a perfume factory and you don't get affected. And then you
and you don't get affected. And then you could see how you could start eating
could see how you could start eating almost anything once you start getting
almost anything once you start getting healthy. But again, common sense. So,
healthy. But again, common sense. So, we're not as we get healthy, we're not
we're not as we get healthy, we're not going to poison ourselves with the
going to poison ourselves with the garbage that got us there in the first
garbage that got us there in the first place, but we're going to see that we're
place, but we're going to see that we're going to be able to enjoy, you know,
going to be able to enjoy, you know, having the spice of life to enjoy food
having the spice of life to enjoy food so we don't become, you know, food Nazis
so we don't become, you know, food Nazis and then we're micro doing everything.
and then we're micro doing everything. We can't have this, we can't have that.
We can't have this, we can't have that. That's sensitivities. We want to build
That's sensitivities. We want to build up the body so we're not sensitive to
up the body so we're not sensitive to everything under the sun. We're not
everything under the sun. We're not sensitive to the environment. we're not
sensitive to the environment. we're not as sensitive to going to a store. So,
as sensitive to going to a store. So, this is where building up the mineral
this is where building up the mineral grid so we can break down all the
grid so we can break down all the garbage so the body can get rid of it.
garbage so the body can get rid of it. So, that's how important the mineral
So, that's how important the mineral balancing really is.
balancing really is. >> Yeah, it's funny. Yeah, I kind of I I
>> Yeah, it's funny. Yeah, I kind of I I laugh. Sometimes I see some of these
laugh. Sometimes I see some of these bigger health accounts and I actually
bigger health accounts and I actually who I know haven't like spent tons of
who I know haven't like spent tons of times on detoxification and they're just
times on detoxification and they're just like shunn they turn everyone so
like shunn they turn everyone so neurotic when I'm like the actual goal
neurotic when I'm like the actual goal here if you're really really healthy is
here if you're really really healthy is you can mess up sometimes or you can
you can mess up sometimes or you can withstand you know the smell of gasoline
withstand you know the smell of gasoline or the smell of you know like you should
or the smell of you know like you should be able to walk through you know
be able to walk through you know whatever the the the the mall and be
whatever the the the the mall and be okay. It's not that crazy. It's like
okay. It's not that crazy. It's like it's just you should be able to tolerate
it's just you should be able to tolerate that and you know you should be able to
that and you know you should be able to enjoy some unhealthy foods if you're
enjoy some unhealthy foods if you're with family or loved ones and you're out
with family or loved ones and you're out at a dinner and it's not perfect. It
at a dinner and it's not perfect. It shouldn't be this big neurotic thing
shouldn't be this big neurotic thing that's going to wipe you out for two
that's going to wipe you out for two days if you have the piece of bread or
days if you have the piece of bread or you have the dessert. And that's what
you have the dessert. And that's what real health looks like. Or even you know
real health looks like. Or even you know I think a lot of people like alcohol is
I think a lot of people like alcohol is trending down which is good. We
trending down which is good. We definitely always overdrink, but I do
definitely always overdrink, but I do think it can be used socially, you know,
think it can be used socially, you know, acceptably one or two cocktails. But I
acceptably one or two cocktails. But I think a lot of people with the with the
think a lot of people with the with the downtrend of alcohol just can't even
downtrend of alcohol just can't even break down alcohol anymore because their
break down alcohol anymore because their livers are so toxic. Uh you need zinc,
livers are so toxic. Uh you need zinc, you know, to break down alcohol pretty
you know, to break down alcohol pretty effectively. And as we know, everyone's
effectively. And as we know, everyone's pretty much zinc deficient. And so I
pretty much zinc deficient. And so I think there's some issues with even just
think there's some issues with even just like because that's just like a one more
like because that's just like a one more toxin. We're already getting bombarded
toxin. We're already getting bombarded with everything. We're already the
with everything. We're already the bucket's already full. And then you add
bucket's already full. And then you add in like a drink or two and some people
in like a drink or two and some people can just really get crazy hangovers and
can just really get crazy hangovers and stuff when I feel like you should be
stuff when I feel like you should be able to enjoy like one bad meal and like
able to enjoy like one bad meal and like one cocktail or two like if you're not
one cocktail or two like if you're not going out and binge drinking and be
going out and binge drinking and be okay. Um as long as you're not doing
okay. Um as long as you're not doing that like every day or every you know
that like every day or every you know every other day. But you know as I've
every other day. But you know as I've gotten healthier that was that's kind of
gotten healthier that was that's kind of my case. I can go have like one cocktail
my case. I can go have like one cocktail or one glass of wine or two with dinner
or one glass of wine or two with dinner and I'll be okay the next day. But
and I'll be okay the next day. But before when I was super toxic, if I
before when I was super toxic, if I would have done that, I would feel like
would have done that, I would feel like crap for like four days,
crap for like four days, >> right? I mean, just think when you
>> right? I mean, just think when you travel, you know, when you go to a
travel, you know, when you go to a restaurant and everything set you off.
restaurant and everything set you off. When you start getting healthy, you can
When you start getting healthy, you can eat a weekend of restaurant food and
eat a weekend of restaurant food and it's not going to kill you. You know,
it's not going to kill you. You know, you're going to be just fine and you
you're going to be just fine and you actually may even enjoy the restaurant
actually may even enjoy the restaurant food. But I'm not telling you to go to
food. But I'm not telling you to go to restaurants and start because restaurant
restaurants and start because restaurant food is garbage. Most of it, you know,
food is garbage. Most of it, you know, it's all garbage for the most part,
it's all garbage for the most part, unless you're cooking it yourself with
unless you're cooking it yourself with intelligent ingredients and putting love
intelligent ingredients and putting love into creating your food because there's
into creating your food because there's a whole art and science to food. But
a whole art and science to food. But then we just become food phobia, you
then we just become food phobia, you know, just and we we're avoiding this,
know, just and we we're avoiding this, we're avoiding that. Spice of life, you
we're avoiding that. Spice of life, you know, food is amazing. So, we want to
know, food is amazing. So, we want to have the spice of life. If we're
have the spice of life. If we're traveling, I want those authentic dishes
traveling, I want those authentic dishes where I'm traveling to. I don't want to
where I'm traveling to. I don't want to have the fears and phobias that I can't
have the fears and phobias that I can't eat this, I can't eat that. Um, gluten.
eat this, I can't eat that. Um, gluten. Whenever you hear gluten, just think
Whenever you hear gluten, just think glyphosate. It's the glyphosate that is
glyphosate. It's the glyphosate that is just, you know, one of the most horrific
just, you know, one of the most horrific chemicals that is a chelator of the
chemicals that is a chelator of the minerals and it will chilate out your
minerals and it will chilate out your calcium, your magnesium, your zinc,
calcium, your magnesium, your zinc, >> and that's, you know, and we're all
>> and that's, you know, and we're all inundated with this glyphosate because
inundated with this glyphosate because do you test uh everyone for glyphosate?
do you test uh everyone for glyphosate? >> I don't. I just stick to the HTMA test,
>> I don't. I just stick to the HTMA test, but I I just go into the assumption that
but I I just go into the assumption that we that anybody has glyphosate and
we that anybody has glyphosate and everybody, even probably myself at this
everybody, even probably myself at this point. I take a lot of zeolyten binders
point. I take a lot of zeolyten binders for that reason though. I like that's
for that reason though. I like that's why I like the zeo charge that I had
why I like the zeo charge that I had sent you some of over, but everyone's
sent you some of over, but everyone's got their favorite binder or whatever
got their favorite binder or whatever cuz I think we still get those daily
cuz I think we still get those daily exposures. You know, I buy everything
exposures. You know, I buy everything local seasonal from the farm, but like
local seasonal from the farm, but like you know, who knows? The farm next to
you know, who knows? The farm next to them could be spraying glyphosate and
them could be spraying glyphosate and that could come over to their farm. I
that could come over to their farm. I mean, you don't know every growing
mean, you don't know every growing condition of everything that you put
condition of everything that you put into your mouth. So, I think um it's in
into your mouth. So, I think um it's in the water. So, I filter my water. I do
the water. So, I filter my water. I do my best to buy local and seasonal and
my best to buy local and seasonal and organic, but um you know, I don't I'm
organic, but um you know, I don't I'm not naive to think that I have zero. And
not naive to think that I have zero. And that's why I keep the binder coming in
that's why I keep the binder coming in on the daily. I like to do the
on the daily. I like to do the glyphosate test because especially with
glyphosate test because especially with children because I got to educate the
children because I got to educate the parents that look at this glyphosate off
parents that look at this glyphosate off the charts for your your kids. So then
the charts for your your kids. So then they'll have the common sense say,
they'll have the common sense say, "Well, where's that glyphosate coming
"Well, where's that glyphosate coming from, you know, and they'll start
from, you know, and they'll start avoiding the restaurants. They'll start,
avoiding the restaurants. They'll start, you know, incorporating better quality
you know, incorporating better quality foods." But again, we're all exposed no
foods." But again, we're all exposed no matter what we're doing, but we want to
matter what we're doing, but we want to decrease that level of exposure. Then we
decrease that level of exposure. Then we can retest the glyphosate and we can see
can retest the glyphosate and we can see as we mineralize the body, we come in
as we mineralize the body, we come in with some binders um and we start
with some binders um and we start removing the chemical glyphosate and you
removing the chemical glyphosate and you see that come crashing down and you show
see that come crashing down and you show that to them, you know, a year later
that to them, you know, a year later glyphosate off the top roof, you know,
glyphosate off the top roof, you know, top 90% in the country and then a year
top 90% in the country and then a year later it it barely shows up. So, this is
later it it barely shows up. So, this is the power of using the test. You know,
the power of using the test. You know, more of a scare tactic to show, yeah,
more of a scare tactic to show, yeah, look, I I need the parents to pay
look, I I need the parents to pay attention to what you're feeding your
attention to what you're feeding your kids. So, I'm going to scare you a
kids. So, I'm going to scare you a little bit with running these tests to
little bit with running these tests to show, yeah, you got these chemicals in
show, yeah, you got these chemicals in you. We got to get them out. And so this
you. We got to get them out. And so this will increase, you know, their
will increase, you know, their compliancy with paying attention to the
compliancy with paying attention to the foods and taking the minerals when you
foods and taking the minerals when you show them, you know, that the toxic
show them, you know, that the toxic metals or the chemicals or whatever.
metals or the chemicals or whatever. >> Yeah, the the testing helps the parents
>> Yeah, the the testing helps the parents really shift into gear. I think that
really shift into gear. I think that that aluminum is always off the charts.
that aluminum is always off the charts. They see a couple other metals and
They see a couple other metals and they're like, "Oh okay, I guess
they're like, "Oh okay, I guess I'm on board. I guess I'll do what this
I'm on board. I guess I'll do what this guy tells me." Because obviously, but
guy tells me." Because obviously, but you have even more tests to scare him a
you have even more tests to scare him a little bit and make it a little bit
little bit and make it a little bit healthier. I I know we only got like the
healthier. I I know we only got like the last little few minutes here. I want one
last little few minutes here. I want one thing I wanted to touch on. I'm not sure
thing I wanted to touch on. I'm not sure how you know we put vitamin K2 in the
how you know we put vitamin K2 in the CMAC Fusion. I think it's a great
CMAC Fusion. I think it's a great supplement. Do you think that people
supplement. Do you think that people need to be taking uh vitamin K2 or do
need to be taking uh vitamin K2 or do you think if we just balance out all the
you think if we just balance out all the minerals everything will be fine? Cuz
minerals everything will be fine? Cuz obviously like when you started
obviously like when you started practicing I don't think K2 was like a
practicing I don't think K2 was like a supplement everyone took. But now with
supplement everyone took. But now with the research and you know it's obviously
the research and you know it's obviously in dairy and it helps bring that calcium
in dairy and it helps bring that calcium back into the bones and places where it
back into the bones and places where it needs to be instead of the soft tissues.
needs to be instead of the soft tissues. Do you like to use K2 at all or do you
Do you like to use K2 at all or do you think just by balancing out the whole
think just by balancing out the whole mineral system you'll just be good on
mineral system you'll just be good on the calcification front?
the calcification front? >> Never used it ever in my, you know, my
>> Never used it ever in my, you know, my whole time in mineral balancing over 20
whole time in mineral balancing over 20 years. I've never used K. Um I I'm all
years. I've never used K. Um I I'm all the fats soluble vitamins A, D, E, and
the fats soluble vitamins A, D, E, and K. The only fat soluble vitamin I may
K. The only fat soluble vitamin I may use is vitamin D, you know. So I will
use is vitamin D, you know. So I will use D, you know, moderately because all
use D, you know, moderately because all your fat soluble vitamins, what do they
your fat soluble vitamins, what do they need for gene expression? They all need
need for gene expression? They all need a zinc finger. So that's why for all
a zinc finger. So that's why for all your fats solubable vitamins, for them
your fats solubable vitamins, for them to be utilized on a genomic level, you
to be utilized on a genomic level, you got to have that zinc finger. So the fat
got to have that zinc finger. So the fat hormone, whatever it is, can be
hormone, whatever it is, can be transcribed and translated into that
transcribed and translated into that usable protein. So then it can do its
usable protein. So then it can do its job. So to answer your question, I've
job. So to answer your question, I've never used vitamin K. Probably never
never used vitamin K. Probably never will. Just build up the enzymes in the
will. Just build up the enzymes in the body, all the microbes in the digestive,
body, all the microbes in the digestive, you know, good bacteria, you're going to
you know, good bacteria, you're going to get your K working. So I never used it,
get your K working. So I never used it, probably never will.
probably never will. >> Yeah. Interesting. I had a feeling some
>> Yeah. Interesting. I had a feeling some of the old school guys, it's it's more
of the old school guys, it's it's more of a newer supplement. I actually like
of a newer supplement. I actually like how I feel with, but I just already it's
how I feel with, but I just already it's easy for me cuz we put it right into the
easy for me cuz we put it right into the calm mag supplement. So, I don't have to
calm mag supplement. So, I don't have to go out of my way to take it. I'm already
go out of my way to take it. I'm already just taking the calm mag and the K2's
just taking the calm mag and the K2's right in there. And there's some good
right in there. And there's some good research around testosterone and
research around testosterone and different things. So, I think it
different things. So, I think it definitely can be utilized. I also
definitely can be utilized. I also think, you know, there was decades of
think, you know, there was decades of like the Dr. Paul X and the Dr. Wilson's
like the Dr. Paul X and the Dr. Wilson's who balanced out calcium and got calcium
who balanced out calcium and got calcium back regulated and released some of the
back regulated and released some of the excess calcium that we see on hair test
excess calcium that we see on hair test without the K2. So, I do think the
without the K2. So, I do think the actual overall mineral balance of
actual overall mineral balance of everything on on the HTMA matters a
everything on on the HTMA matters a little bit more, but I think K2 is kind
little bit more, but I think K2 is kind of like one of them things you can throw
of like one of them things you can throw in to kind of just help speed up the
in to kind of just help speed up the process maybe. And I do I' I have always
process maybe. And I do I' I have always felt better on it. So, maybe you play
felt better on it. So, maybe you play around with that one day, maybe you
around with that one day, maybe you won't. But, uh I think with your your
won't. But, uh I think with your your cuz I I've seen through 20 years I've
cuz I I've seen through 20 years I've seen 600 calcium shells come back to
seen 600 calcium shells come back to Earth. I've seen four lows come back. So
Earth. I've seen four lows come back. So and never once using a a vitamin K. So
and never once using a a vitamin K. So I've gotten great results with without
I've gotten great results with without using it. So if it ain't broke, don't
using it. So if it ain't broke, don't fix it. So I don't want to add another
fix it. So I don't want to add another fat soluble vitamin into the mix when I
fat soluble vitamin into the mix when I want to focus on the minerals. Minerals
want to focus on the minerals. Minerals are that cosmic force that brings life
are that cosmic force that brings life to carbon organic chemistry. Yeah, I do
to carbon organic chemistry. Yeah, I do think overall getting the right the
think overall getting the right the ratios and the overall the minerals is
ratios and the overall the minerals is more important than focusing on that K2.
more important than focusing on that K2. But if people want to try it out, I I do
But if people want to try it out, I I do think I feel better on it. Maybe that's
think I feel better on it. Maybe that's maybe it's uh placebo. Who knows? But
maybe it's uh placebo. Who knows? But you know, there's some good
you know, there's some good >> good calcium and magnesium.
>> good calcium and magnesium. >> Yeah, I really have no idea because it's
>> Yeah, I really have no idea because it's right in the same supplement with with
right in the same supplement with with the boron and the calcium, magnesium,
the boron and the calcium, magnesium, and all of that. Um I had something that
and all of that. Um I had something that was on my mind that I just slipped. I
was on my mind that I just slipped. I had a good one to Oh, what uh so what
had a good one to Oh, what uh so what toxins cause calcification as well? So,
toxins cause calcification as well? So, we talked a lot about the mineral
we talked a lot about the mineral imbalances, the disregularities and the
imbalances, the disregularities and the ratio between everything. How much do
ratio between everything. How much do heavy metals and things like fluoride
heavy metals and things like fluoride and stuff like that cause calcification
and stuff like that cause calcification in and of themsel like you know outside
in and of themsel like you know outside of all the minerals you can take and the
of all the minerals you can take and the balancing what what role do the heavy
balancing what what role do the heavy metals and the toxins play?
metals and the toxins play? >> Well, you know, lead will displace
>> Well, you know, lead will displace calcium. You know that that's a that you
calcium. You know that that's a that you know that's definitely a flagrant fowl
know that's definitely a flagrant fowl is that lead. So the alchemical metal of
is that lead. So the alchemical metal of Saturn since the beginning of time has
Saturn since the beginning of time has always been lead. The nutrient mineral
always been lead. The nutrient mineral of Saturn is calcium. So we want when
of Saturn is calcium. So we want when that lead comes out of its binding space
that lead comes out of its binding space in the bone then that calcium can come
in the bone then that calcium can come in. So we know it's not just lead. We
in. So we know it's not just lead. We know aluminum can block the calcium.
know aluminum can block the calcium. Cadmium absolutely can block the
Cadmium absolutely can block the calcium. And in Japan they had this
calcium. And in Japan they had this disease um you know where the cadmium
disease um you know where the cadmium fields were getting into the rice and
fields were getting into the rice and they started you know the Japanese
they started you know the Japanese population started develop horrible
population started develop horrible calcium deposition diseases where the
calcium deposition diseases where the bones were deformed and that was because
bones were deformed and that was because the the cadmium was displacing
the the cadmium was displacing uh the the the cadmium was displacing
uh the the the cadmium was displacing the calcium and that was causing all the
the calcium and that was causing all the bone diseases and it was horrible and
bone diseases and it was horrible and that and they knew it was the the
that and they knew it was the the cadmium in mine getting into the rice
cadmium in mine getting into the rice field causing all their diseases of
field causing all their diseases of calcium disbalance. So all these toxic
calcium disbalance. So all these toxic metals will chilate out you know the the
metals will chilate out you know the the nutrient minerals whether it's calcium,
nutrient minerals whether it's calcium, magnesium, zinc and so how it has an
magnesium, zinc and so how it has an affinity for this specific metal
affinity for this specific metal determines you know you got to look at
determines you know you got to look at the veency you got to look at its
the veency you got to look at its structure you know because there like
structure you know because there like you said ionic mimicry is going to be a
you said ionic mimicry is going to be a play and so these toxins can mimic the
play and so these toxins can mimic the nutrient mineral and then when it gets
nutrient mineral and then when it gets in and it finds its way into an enzyme
in and it finds its way into an enzyme binding site Then the allseeing brain is
binding site Then the allseeing brain is going to say the wrong mineral is there
going to say the wrong mineral is there and then that's that creates a lot of
and then that's that creates a lot of reactive oxygen species causing
reactive oxygen species causing inflammation causing the bones to break
inflammation causing the bones to break down because you know th those bone
down because you know th those bone those proteins have to fold into that
those proteins have to fold into that three-dimensional shape. If you got the
three-dimensional shape. If you got the wrong metal in there it ain't going to
wrong metal in there it ain't going to fold and then eventually if that protein
fold and then eventually if that protein doesn't fold it becomes unusable.
doesn't fold it becomes unusable. >> Yeah, I agree. And you know the the
>> Yeah, I agree. And you know the the other issue with the calcification
other issue with the calcification um not you know kind of switching gears
um not you know kind of switching gears just for this last little segment but is
just for this last little segment but is uh the the impact that we see with on on
uh the the impact that we see with on on the emotional front is what people don't
the emotional front is what people don't realize a lot of the like socially
realize a lot of the like socially withdrawn people the people don't feel
withdrawn people the people don't feel like going out even though they used to
like going out even though they used to be really social like when you kind of
be really social like when you kind of like bring that you show them that
like bring that you show them that calcium shell and you kind of tell them
calcium shell and you kind of tell them the effect that it has on like your
the effect that it has on like your emotional stance and how you might be
emotional stance and how you might be numb you might not get the high highs
numb you might not get the high highs and the low lows simply because this
and the low lows simply because this calcification is kind of this hardening
calcification is kind of this hardening mineral kind of blocking you off. Do you
mineral kind of blocking you off. Do you see that a lot as far as like emotional
see that a lot as far as like emotional issues when people have calcification?
issues when people have calcification? >> Absolutely. It's one of the biggest
>> Absolutely. It's one of the biggest things. So, you know, you're going to
things. So, you know, you're going to see how the minerals not just affect
see how the minerals not just affect your physiology, they they affect your
your physiology, they they affect your psychology. We know if if lead gets into
psychology. We know if if lead gets into the amygdala or you know part of the
the amygdala or you know part of the brain the emotional centers of the brain
brain the emotional centers of the brain you know it's gonna disrupt you know
you know it's gonna disrupt you know it's going to kill your empathy it's
it's going to kill your empathy it's going to kill your passion it's going to
going to kill your passion it's going to kill your drive because you have a toxic
kill your drive because you have a toxic metal doing some enzyatic function in
metal doing some enzyatic function in the wrong place at the wrong time where
the wrong place at the wrong time where the nutrient mineral should be. So we
the nutrient mineral should be. So we know how profound it is on our
know how profound it is on our psychology. And then when we go through
psychology. And then when we go through metal dumps, you start to see we're not
metal dumps, you start to see we're not as depressed. Our energy is better. Our
as depressed. Our energy is better. Our mood is better. Our passion comes back
mood is better. Our passion comes back for for life and for love and for, you
for for life and for love and for, you know, relationships and for our, you
know, relationships and for our, you know, really it brings the zest of life
know, really it brings the zest of life back when these toxins come out. But
back when these toxins come out. But first, you got to clean out that liver
first, you got to clean out that liver before the brain and the bone is going
before the brain and the bone is going to start mobilizing these metals out.
to start mobilizing these metals out. You got to get the kidneys and the liver
You got to get the kidneys and the liver working at a more efficient clip. Then
working at a more efficient clip. Then the then the toxic metals will start
the then the toxic metals will start being released from the brain and the
being released from the brain and the other organs. But you got to start with
other organs. But you got to start with the kidneys and the liver to really
the kidneys and the liver to really start mobilizing these metals out. So
start mobilizing these metals out. So yes, it has a profound effect on your
yes, it has a profound effect on your psychology. And so that's why when you
psychology. And so that's why when you see you know you whatever you know from
see you know you whatever you know from manic depression to to panic attacks to
manic depression to to panic attacks to anxiety we know how copper causes a lot
anxiety we know how copper causes a lot of panic attacks a lot of anxiety. So
of panic attacks a lot of anxiety. So the hub of copper is in the
the hub of copper is in the locoserillis. That's your sympathetic
locoserillis. That's your sympathetic nervous system. So they even have a blue
nervous system. So they even have a blue stain in the locoserillis. That's in the
stain in the locoserillis. That's in the midbrain. that's in the ponds. That's
midbrain. that's in the ponds. That's the hub of your sympathetic nervous
the hub of your sympathetic nervous system. And that that's regulating the
system. And that that's regulating the dopamine and the adrenaline, you know,
dopamine and the adrenaline, you know, and so when that when that beta
and so when that when that beta hydroxilase enzyme in the pawns and the
hydroxilase enzyme in the pawns and the locoseris, when that is disregulated,
locoseris, when that is disregulated, you're going to have the the brain on
you're going to have the the brain on fire, the anxieties, the panic attacks
fire, the anxieties, the panic attacks because dopamine and and adrenaline are
because dopamine and and adrenaline are disregulated. So you may have on one day
disregulated. So you may have on one day you may have way too much uh dopamine.
you may have way too much uh dopamine. Then the next day you can have a surge
Then the next day you can have a surge of adrenaline. There's your panic
of adrenaline. There's your panic attack. There's your temper tantrum.
attack. There's your temper tantrum. There's your fighting. There's your
There's your fighting. There's your belligerance. And it's going to
belligerance. And it's going to vasillate between the high dopamine, low
vasillate between the high dopamine, low adrenaline. And then that's going to
adrenaline. And then that's going to crash and then you're going to have low
crash and then you're going to have low dopamine, high adrenaline. And that's
dopamine, high adrenaline. And that's all because of copper affecting the
all because of copper affecting the brain chemistry. And that's just one
brain chemistry. And that's just one example of many. We know how iron can
example of many. We know how iron can cause, you know, bring out the most
cause, you know, bring out the most hardened criminals, you know, in our
hardened criminals, you know, in our culture. When that iron gets to a
culture. When that iron gets to a certain part of the emotional part of
certain part of the emotional part of the brain, that's going to bring out the
the brain, that's going to bring out the rapists, the serial killers, and all the
rapists, the serial killers, and all the ugly stuff we see because metals are
ugly stuff we see because metals are profound.
profound. Wow. That you what's interesting you
Wow. That you what's interesting you that locos locus cerilius that that kind
that locos locus cerilius that that kind of blue spot I don't know if you're
of blue spot I don't know if you're familiar with Dr. John Luron at all.
familiar with Dr. John Luron at all. He's kind of this prolific um functional
He's kind of this prolific um functional doctor. Does some very cutting edge like
doctor. Does some very cutting edge like therapies as far as like IVs and
therapies as far as like IVs and frequencies and things down in Sarasota.
frequencies and things down in Sarasota. I've had him on the show. I've met him a
I've had him on the show. I've met him a bunch of times. Really interesting guy.
bunch of times. Really interesting guy. He likes methylene blue and he has this
He likes methylene blue and he has this kind of argument that the locuster, you
kind of argument that the locuster, you know, is blue and the methylene blue
know, is blue and the methylene blue will affect that that region. I can't
will affect that that region. I can't remember his exact breakdown, but he's,
remember his exact breakdown, but he's, you know, he's told me about it in
you know, he's told me about it in person. I've heard him on shows. But
person. I've heard him on shows. But you're saying that that you know locos
you're saying that that you know locos is blue because of copper.
is blue because of copper. >> It's exactly why it's blue. It's because
>> It's exactly why it's blue. It's because of copper. It's
of copper. It's >> that makes more sense to me potent, you
>> that makes more sense to me potent, you know, you just think, you know, because
know, you just think, you know, because I always tell people methylene blue is
I always tell people methylene blue is cool. I like it. I've taken it before. I
cool. I like it. I've taken it before. I like it for jet lag. I like it as a
like it for jet lag. I like it as a neutropic. I almost never take it
neutropic. I almost never take it anymore now that I've got a lot of my
anymore now that I've got a lot of my energy back. It used to be more
energy back. It used to be more effective for me when I was a little bit
effective for me when I was a little bit sicker. But um uh that would, you know,
sicker. But um uh that would, you know, you're you're much more likely to be to
you're you're much more likely to be to be blue because of copper than of
be blue because of copper than of methylene blue. this like synthetic dye
methylene blue. this like synthetic dye that we're ingesting.
that we're ingesting. >> If you look up in, you know, any PubMed
>> If you look up in, you know, any PubMed research, you're going to see in the
research, you're going to see in the locus is the beta hydroxilase enzyme.
locus is the beta hydroxilase enzyme. That beta hydroxilase enzyme is
That beta hydroxilase enzyme is absolutely copper dependent. So you got
absolutely copper dependent. So you got to have the copper there to activate
to have the copper there to activate that enzyme. So you can add a hydroxal
that enzyme. So you can add a hydroxal group to the dopamine. So when you add
group to the dopamine. So when you add the hydroxal group to the certain carbon
the hydroxal group to the certain carbon and dopamine now you have adrenaline and
and dopamine now you have adrenaline and that enzyme allows that transfer of an
that enzyme allows that transfer of an oxygen a hydrogen and an electron. So
oxygen a hydrogen and an electron. So that's all that's where that copper is
that's all that's where that copper is is the most abundant 10 times more
is the most abundant 10 times more copper in the local curillus than any
copper in the local curillus than any other part of the brain because it's the
other part of the brain because it's the hub of your sympathetic you know nervous
hub of your sympathetic you know nervous system.
system. >> Wow that makes total sense. That makes a
>> Wow that makes total sense. That makes a lot of sense because I've heard him
lot of sense because I've heard him describe that in multiple talks about
describe that in multiple talks about that methylene blue and that that blue
that methylene blue and that that blue region of the brain and it's exactly
region of the brain and it's exactly what you're talking about, but it makes
what you're talking about, but it makes a lot of sense that it's copper.
a lot of sense that it's copper. >> Yeah, you you'll research that and
>> Yeah, you you'll research that and you'll see it's absolutely copper.
you'll see it's absolutely copper. >> Yeah. I mean, he's he's like a highle
>> Yeah. I mean, he's he's like a highle guy, so I just kind of listened to a few
guy, so I just kind of listened to a few of his talks. I'm like, "Yeah, that
of his talks. I'm like, "Yeah, that makes sense that methylene blue would
makes sense that methylene blue would act on on a blue region of the brain."
act on on a blue region of the brain." But, you know, I guess I never put two
But, you know, I guess I never put two and two together. Like, you know,
and two together. Like, you know, copper's blue, so that that would make
copper's blue, so that that would make total sense.
total sense. >> Yeah. And copper's what? Doing what?
>> Yeah. And copper's what? Doing what? It's moving those electrons. What does
It's moving those electrons. What does methylene blue do? It's moving those
methylene blue do? It's moving those electrons. So, so maybe you're, you
electrons. So, so maybe you're, you know, he's giving the methylene blue to
know, he's giving the methylene blue to affect the movement of electrons. So,
affect the movement of electrons. So, copper in the electron transport chain,
copper in the electron transport chain, copper is the final donator of electrons
copper is the final donator of electrons to molecular oxygen and it will actually
to molecular oxygen and it will actually when when the copper binds to the
when when the copper binds to the oxygen, it will split the oxygen into
oxygen, it will split the oxygen into water and CO2. Um, that's amazing. I
water and CO2. Um, that's amazing. I mean, that's I think the only mineral
mean, that's I think the only mineral that can do that. And so, every molecule
that can do that. And so, every molecule of CO2, how is CO2 dealt with in the
of CO2, how is CO2 dealt with in the body? Think of all the CO2 you're you're
body? Think of all the CO2 you're you're producing of every second of every
producing of every second of every minute of your life. What's the enzyme
minute of your life. What's the enzyme that regulates CO2?
that regulates CO2? >> Not sure.
>> Not sure. >> Carbonic and hydrates, carbon,
>> Carbonic and hydrates, carbon, >> carbonic something, but I couldn't
>> carbonic something, but I couldn't >> carbonic acid is absolutely zinc
>> carbonic acid is absolutely zinc dependent. So this is why we start to
dependent. So this is why we start to see how these enzymes and the mineral
see how these enzymes and the mineral co-actors for these enzymes and when you
co-actors for these enzymes and when you look at all the panic attacks and the
look at all the panic attacks and the anxieties you go to that locuserillis
anxieties you go to that locuserillis that's a copper disregulation and that's
that's a copper disregulation and that's you know again that's the hub of your
you know again that's the hub of your sympathetic nervous system and so when
sympathetic nervous system and so when that's disregulated you'll see the
that's disregulated you'll see the anxieties you'll see the panic attacks
anxieties you'll see the panic attacks you'll see the phobias the fears the
you'll see the phobias the fears the OCDs and all these weird type of things
OCDs and all these weird type of things affecting dopamine and adrenaline.
affecting dopamine and adrenaline. >> Yeah, that's super interesting. I know
>> Yeah, that's super interesting. I know we got to wrap it up, but you know, a
we got to wrap it up, but you know, a lot of times people in like disease
lot of times people in like disease states or cancer states or any of, you
states or cancer states or any of, you know, any kind of diagnosis state, they
know, any kind of diagnosis state, they kind of say that, you know, you're in a
kind of say that, you know, you're in a low oxygen state. But then now that you
low oxygen state. But then now that you look at kind of how these minerals
look at kind of how these minerals played a role in kind of splitting some
played a role in kind of splitting some of those and breaking things off into
of those and breaking things off into oxygen or into CO2, you start to realize
oxygen or into CO2, you start to realize that it's like the enzymes potentially,
that it's like the enzymes potentially, you know, that the toxin is also
you know, that the toxin is also affecting that enzyme that would help
affecting that enzyme that would help you kind of be in a more highly
you kind of be in a more highly oxygenated state just naturally. And you
oxygenated state just naturally. And you know, I'm not against the oxygen
know, I'm not against the oxygen therapies. I have ozone machine at the
therapies. I have ozone machine at the house. I like them and people use
house. I like them and people use hyperbarics. But I do think we need to
hyperbarics. But I do think we need to get down to more like the cellular kind
get down to more like the cellular kind of enzyme level to also help bring us
of enzyme level to also help bring us out of those kind of diagnoses and
out of those kind of diagnoses and disease states.
disease states. >> I absolutely agree. We got to work on
>> I absolutely agree. We got to work on the enzyme and while we're doing all
the enzyme and while we're doing all that crude work, we still got to deal
that crude work, we still got to deal with the emotional person, you know? So
with the emotional person, you know? So if they're depressed or they're anxiety,
if they're depressed or they're anxiety, that's where I love homeopathy to come
that's where I love homeopathy to come in with a a energy vibration frequency
in with a a energy vibration frequency remedy to help them to deal with that
remedy to help them to deal with that layer of pathology, whether it's showing
layer of pathology, whether it's showing up in chronic anxiety, chronic panic
up in chronic anxiety, chronic panic attacks, chronic depressing depression
attacks, chronic depressing depression or chronic OCDs or fears or phobias or
or chronic OCDs or fears or phobias or whatever. They help to, you know, they
whatever. They help to, you know, they help to kind of pacify and plate the
help to kind of pacify and plate the symptom while you're doing the crude
symptom while you're doing the crude work. So when you're doing the crude
work. So when you're doing the crude work and you're doing the detox, the
work and you're doing the detox, the mineral balancing, the lifestyle, we
mineral balancing, the lifestyle, we give them energybased remedies to help
give them energybased remedies to help so they can weather the storm so they
so they can weather the storm so they don't quit the program. And that can
don't quit the program. And that can work for physical aggravations,
work for physical aggravations, emotional aggravations, um psychological
emotional aggravations, um psychological aggravations. We use the energybased
aggravations. We use the energybased remedies to help as we're doing, you
remedies to help as we're doing, you know, the crude work.
know, the crude work. >> Wow. Beautifully said. All right, Dr.
>> Wow. Beautifully said. All right, Dr. Celig, I could talk to you a 100,000
Celig, I could talk to you a 100,000 times about 100,000 topics. So, I'm sure
times about 100,000 topics. So, I'm sure we'll we'll revisit a different topic uh
we'll we'll revisit a different topic uh later on, but I know you're a little bit
later on, but I know you're a little bit hard to get in in touch with. You kind
hard to get in in touch with. You kind of do some of these podcasts just for
of do some of these podcasts just for fun, but if anybody does want to try to
fun, but if anybody does want to try to work with you um and get into you, do
work with you um and get into you, do some testing with you, how can they find
some testing with you, how can they find you? Where can they find your work? So,
you? Where can they find your work? So, back to natural health. Now, I take on
back to natural health. Now, I take on full cases. I don't just, you know, read
full cases. I don't just, you know, read someone's hair test and give some
someone's hair test and give some advice. You know, when someone's working
advice. You know, when someone's working with me, we're going to do the full
with me, we're going to do the full onslaught of labs. We're going to do
onslaught of labs. We're going to do stool. We're going to do hair. We're
stool. We're going to do hair. We're going to do blood. We're going to look
going to do blood. We're going to look at the hormone. We're going to look at
at the hormone. We're going to look at everything so I can profile you there.
everything so I can profile you there. I'm going to profile you astrologically.
I'm going to profile you astrologically. So, if you're born in Sat or born in
So, if you're born in Sat or born in Capricorn, you're going to have more
Capricorn, you're going to have more Saturn stuff. If you're born in its
Saturn stuff. If you're born in its polar opposite in uh cancer, you're
polar opposite in uh cancer, you're going to have more calcium stuff. If
going to have more calcium stuff. If you're born in um on a Saturday, you're
you're born in um on a Saturday, you're going to have more calcium stuff. So,
going to have more calcium stuff. So, I'm going to profile you many, many
I'm going to profile you many, many ways. I want to know the energetics of
ways. I want to know the energetics of who you are. So, I'm going to look at
who you are. So, I'm going to look at you astrologically. I'm going to look at
you astrologically. I'm going to look at you biochemically. I'm going to look at
you biochemically. I'm going to look at all the suppressive things that you've
all the suppressive things that you've done in your life. the suppressive, you
done in your life. the suppressive, you know, the, you know, the
know, the, you know, the anti-histamines, the antibiotics, the
anti-histamines, the antibiotics, the steroids. So, we're going to look at the
steroids. So, we're going to look at the suppressive layers. We're going to look
suppressive layers. We're going to look at the psychological layers. We're going
at the psychological layers. We're going to look at the metabolic layers. We're
to look at the metabolic layers. We're going to look at the astrological
going to look at the astrological layers. So, then when you're working
layers. So, then when you're working with me, I'm working with you for five
with me, I'm working with you for five months, and then usually people will
months, and then usually people will resign up with me. And I'll end up
resign up with me. And I'll end up working with people for two years, three
working with people for two years, three years, four years, so forth and so on,
years, four years, so forth and so on, moving that healing needle because it
moving that healing needle because it doesn't happen overnight. It's a long
doesn't happen overnight. It's a long process of, you know, dumping metals
process of, you know, dumping metals because, you know, you're not just going
because, you know, you're not just going to remove cadmium from the bones. You're
to remove cadmium from the bones. You're not going to remove lead from the bones
not going to remove lead from the bones in one, you know, lead will stay. That's
in one, you know, lead will stay. That's Saturn. Saturn takes 30 years to rotate
Saturn. Saturn takes 30 years to rotate around the sun. that cadmium and lead
around the sun. that cadmium and lead can stay in the bones for 30 years, can
can stay in the bones for 30 years, can stay in the kidneys for 30 years. So,
stay in the kidneys for 30 years. So, we're going to take it nice and slow on
we're going to take it nice and slow on a healing program.
a healing program. >> I'm glad you said that because I try to,
>> I'm glad you said that because I try to, you know, you can never, you know,
you know, you can never, you know, people can just go on my website and buy
people can just go on my website and buy a test, but I I try on my show to, you
a test, but I I try on my show to, you know, ex at least my free content here
know, ex at least my free content here that I put out to express that this is
that I put out to express that this is like a multi-year slow process that
like a multi-year slow process that we're going to work through here. Um,
we're going to work through here. Um, and it's, you know, you're gonna have to
and it's, you know, you're gonna have to do the enemas and you're gonna try to
do the enemas and you're gonna try to find a sauna or PMF mat and some of
find a sauna or PMF mat and some of these other therapies and it's it's
these other therapies and it's it's really gonna, you know, it doesn't have
really gonna, you know, it doesn't have to take up all of your time and space,
to take up all of your time and space, but it's going to be the main focus
but it's going to be the main focus probably for a couple years. Um, and so
probably for a couple years. Um, and so then once you get your vitality back,
then once you get your vitality back, then you'll have a lot more freedom and
then you'll have a lot more freedom and you won't have to, you know, be so h run
you won't have to, you know, be so h run down by detox symptoms and all that,
down by detox symptoms and all that, you'll just feel a lot better. But then
you'll just feel a lot better. But then you got the rest of your life to live.
you got the rest of your life to live. So, the time's going to go by either way
So, the time's going to go by either way is what I like to say because Susan
is what I like to say because Susan Susan says that Susan Cashache, she's
Susan says that Susan Cashache, she's like, you know, the time's going to go
like, you know, the time's going to go by either way. So, do you want to feel
by either way. So, do you want to feel like crap like where you were when you
like crap like where you were when you started or do you want to like, you
started or do you want to like, you know, you're going to have some detox
know, you're going to have some detox symptoms and there's going to be some
symptoms and there's going to be some road bumps along the way, but you know,
road bumps along the way, but you know, in a couple years, you're going to feel
in a couple years, you're going to feel better than you probably even did when
better than you probably even did when you were in your teens or 20s. That's
you were in your teens or 20s. That's like where I'm starting to get finally
like where I'm starting to get finally being like 3 years in. I'm slowly
being like 3 years in. I'm slowly starting to be like I think that like my
starting to be like I think that like my joints and like my my body starting to
joints and like my my body starting to feel better than it even did cuz when I
feel better than it even did cuz when I was young I was on tons of antibiotics,
was young I was on tons of antibiotics, mercury fillings, eating like crap. So I
mercury fillings, eating like crap. So I mean I was working out and playing
mean I was working out and playing sports, but I don't think I was optimal
sports, but I don't think I was optimal by any means. And I'm slowly kind of
by any means. And I'm slowly kind of getting into this healing space where
getting into this healing space where I'm like this is the best that I think
I'm like this is the best that I think I've ever felt.
I've ever felt. >> I could say the same thing. You know, in
>> I could say the same thing. You know, in my 30s I felt like Now, you know,
my 30s I felt like Now, you know, I'm going to be 63 in January. This is
I'm going to be 63 in January. This is the best I've ever felt. I feel like my
the best I've ever felt. I feel like my my flexibility is good. I feel like my
my flexibility is good. I feel like my mind is firing on all cylinders. You
mind is firing on all cylinders. You know, I haven't been sick in 20 years. I
know, I haven't been sick in 20 years. I don't get colds and flu and none of that
don't get colds and flu and none of that nonsense. I have my bad days, but it's
nonsense. I have my bad days, but it's not like I get fevers and infections and
not like I get fevers and infections and stuff like that. Um because I've been
stuff like that. Um because I've been doing the homework every day. I commit
doing the homework every day. I commit at least an hour to my health from a
at least an hour to my health from a detox. I commit about 30 minutes to my
detox. I commit about 30 minutes to my workout and that's really all I do. And
workout and that's really all I do. And meanwhile, you know, I don't eat, you
meanwhile, you know, I don't eat, you know, excessively. I only eat two meals
know, excessively. I only eat two meals a day, a light lunch, big dinner. And in
a day, a light lunch, big dinner. And in my dinner, I eat whatever I want because
my dinner, I eat whatever I want because I've earned that right through doing the
I've earned that right through doing the homework. And so, at my age right now,
homework. And so, at my age right now, it's the best I ever felt. I think my
it's the best I ever felt. I think my bones are stronger than most 20 year
bones are stronger than most 20 year olds these days.
olds these days. >> Yeah. I think that the longevity piece
>> Yeah. I think that the longevity piece of it is just where you'll just
of it is just where you'll just outshine. And I tell people, you don't
outshine. And I tell people, you don't have to go be a mineral balancing
have to go be a mineral balancing practitioner, but like if you have, I
practitioner, but like if you have, I don't care if you sell real estate,
don't care if you sell real estate, whatever it is you do, you want to be
whatever it is you do, you want to be full of energy and energetic. Sometimes
full of energy and energetic. Sometimes you got to be on social media posts or
you got to be on social media posts or on interviews or meeting with clients
on interviews or meeting with clients and networking, you want to be that guy
and networking, you want to be that guy who's very energetic and who, but if
who's very energetic and who, but if you're just kind of in that calcium
you're just kind of in that calcium shell or you got that copper toxicity
shell or you got that copper toxicity and you're kind of just like have OCD or
and you're kind of just like have OCD or you're a little off, you're not going to
you're a little off, you're not going to thrive in those businesses either. So I
thrive in those businesses either. So I think it just helps across the board and
think it just helps across the board and the longevity of like you could work for
the longevity of like you could work for decades longer if you just focus on your
decades longer if you just focus on your health now.
health now. >> Health is the greatest wealth and so
>> Health is the greatest wealth and so we've heard that saying forever. And so
we've heard that saying forever. And so when you think of wealth and currency
when you think of wealth and currency and current and energy and chi and
and current and energy and chi and prana, you know, when you fix the
prana, you know, when you fix the mineral grid, that energy chi prana
mineral grid, that energy chi prana flows unimpeded through the body. So you
flows unimpeded through the body. So you feel good. So that's why the homework
feel good. So that's why the homework we're doing today. So we age gracefully.
we're doing today. So we age gracefully. So we slow down calcium. We slow down
So we slow down calcium. We slow down Saturn because like I said, it's going
Saturn because like I said, it's going to get us all in the end. But we don't
to get us all in the end. But we don't want that premature aging. So that's why
want that premature aging. So that's why we're doing it today. So then we don't
we're doing it today. So then we don't end up in a nursing home where someone
end up in a nursing home where someone has to feed us and wipe our ass and
has to feed us and wipe our ass and clothe us. We want to be able to do
clothe us. We want to be able to do everything we're doing today, you know,
everything we're doing today, you know, when we're 100, 110 because our DNA is
when we're 100, 110 because our DNA is programmed to a buck 20. We're lucky to
programmed to a buck 20. We're lucky to make it to 80. So when I'm 100, I still
make it to 80. So when I'm 100, I still want to do everything I'm doing now, but
want to do everything I'm doing now, but it's because I'm doing the homework
it's because I'm doing the homework today that I am not worried about
today that I am not worried about getting cancer or heart disease or this
getting cancer or heart disease or this or that, you know, so I want to dive
or that, you know, so I want to dive peacefully in my sleep. I want to go out
peacefully in my sleep. I want to go out on my terms.
on my terms. I totally agree. All right, uh Robert,
I totally agree. All right, uh Robert, well, I know we went a little low over
well, I know we went a little low over time, so I'll I'll wrap it up there.
time, so I'll I'll wrap it up there. Stick around while I close out the show,
Stick around while I close out the show, and we'll definitely do this again
and we'll definitely do this again sometime.
sometime. >> Cool. Thanks.
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