This podcast episode discusses the MotoGP Monday test at Jerez, focusing on the implications of the 800cc era ending and analyzing key developments and rider performances, particularly highlighting Jorge Martin's significant improvements and the ongoing challenges for Yamaha.
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All right, 5 4 3 2 1. Hey everyone, it's
the Oxley Bom MotoGP podcast back yet again
again
from this time from the Monday test.
We're still at Jerez. It seems like
we've been here half our lives. I've
been coming here for 40 years now. Jesus
[ __ ] Christ, can you imagine that?
Anyway, what what are we talking about
today, Peter? We're talking about the
test. We're here
There's a lot of a couple of hours still
to go, but we've got planes to catch
catch home.
So, we just want to talk a little bit
about today's test and what they mean
for the next few races. This is in fact
the last
There's only three more 1000cc tests
left. This one.
They've got a day after Barcelona next
month, I think. Is that next month or June?
June?
And then a day at Red Bull Ring when
you're allowed to test your thousands or
your 850s.
So, this is you know, we are already
coming to the end of the 8000cc era. So,
where are we now? If I'm looking up at
the time screen, looking at the live
timing. So, we've got
I'm going to just going to whiz you
through the top 10 Well,
Here we go. Fernandez, Di Giannantonio,
Bezzecchi, Quartararo, Alex Marquez,
Martin, Acosta, Bagnaia, Morera,
Bastianini, Zarco, Binder, Marc Marquez,
and then a few Yamahas.
>> It doesn't mean [ __ ] It doesn't mean [ __ ]
[ __ ]
>> nothing. It doesn't mean [ __ ] because
the the thing is super loads of grip
after 4 days, 3 days of racing. It's
quite windy out there. The riders are
exhausted. They don't really want to
risk themselves too much. So, they're
they're all There's a lot of testing of
little stuff going on, but it doesn't
mean [ __ ]
Well, we had a chance to speak to a
couple of riders already in the lunch
time and
usually riders and teams you know
test is super super important because
race weekends are too short to do
something radical.
And also there is new parts that they
are just too radical anyway to put on
the bike. So, you're always looking
forward to the next test, but in this
case for some riders it wasn't really no
point in do doing a lot of laps. Imagine
being Alex Marquez. He was
completely too easy fast from the first
laps he started to do on Friday morning.
And now what happens? He wins the race
like easy, fingers in the nose. And then
he comes back on Monday morning and the
track is even better cuz you start
riding on your own rubber. And there was
no rain overnight. So, we just put more
rubber on the same line. Even if if you
if you tune the bike backwards, it will
still still go fast. So, he said, "Yeah,
I'm working on little things." And he
tried you know, he's professional. But
basically there is no point. He will
find But
your name can also be KTM
or Yamaha
or even Honda that needs to find
something in the bike. Honda is pretty
close, but they need to find something.
What you what you will not look for or
learn anything about in Jerez is horsepower,
horsepower,
super drive, high speed,
long braking areas. You don't have
[music] them here. But here you need to
have a bike that that turns super
quickly with you and then follows the
turn. That makes the lap time here. So,
and if you suffer in that area like all
KTMs do usually, you can
this is the day to go in and out and in
and out and in and out and try some big things.
things.
Try some big things. Yeah, I mean I mean
I mean obviously this place is
completely different to where we go
next, Le Mans. You know, you
completely different, you know.
So, yeah. I mean Barcelona, there's some
long corners where you need the things
to turn, but but I mean to me
just watching what's going on and
listening to a few riders, to me the
kind of big story of the day is Jorge
Martin who who
he had
over the weekend he said he had three
two or three
things to try, soft software, hardware
that he hasn't used this year that
Bezzecchi's been using at the first
three races which he won. [music]
But because Martin missed the first
race, he didn't want to Sorry, the first
test. He and didn't have time in the in
the in the last test, his first test in
Thailand to test these things. He
decided not to use them at the first
three races. There's so little time in a
race weekend now now with the sprint and
you know, Friday afternoon you're
already pre-qualifying. You cannot risk
Oh, let's try this and then find
yourself, you know, getting confused and
losing time. So, he he told us that um
the three or four things that he tried
were all really big improvements.
His words. I asked him in in what area
and he said in braking, turning, and
acceleration. You go like
>> What what do we do except for the pit
lane? That's it. That's racing. So,
So,
he said [clears throat]
he was quite significantly faster than
he was yesterday cuz he had a he had a
rear tire that wasn't quite right. Um
You know, maybe he would have been on
the podium otherwise. But he he said
he's he's got two he found two real
tenths today. So, if he found two real
tenths over a 25 lap race, that's
5 seconds, is it?
So, I mean
I mean there's a lot, you know, if if if
if that does translate, I mean we've
always we've never written off Martin.
Lots of people last year wrote him off.
You know,
he's still as hungry as ever and he's
sort of got all those silly thoughts he
had out of his head last year. You know,
we keep saying it. I think I think he's
a better bet for the title than Bezzecchi.
Bezzecchi.
Keep saying it. Yeah, 100% that's why my
money is on him for the world
championship this year.
>> yeah. I think we already said that on
Friday, didn't [laughter] we?
I keep saying it even if if Bezzecchi
beat him, but
>> Yeah, sure. The thing what convinced me
again even Sunday with Martin. Let me
stop about Martin. It's it's about the
test. I watched he did a super
aggressive start, made a lot of places.
He He went from P10 to three. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. You know, you can't overtake
a MotoGP, but you can if you pay
attention. And then he realized quickly,
"Ah [ __ ] this is not the tire grip that
I see that others are having. I either
risk more or I finish third or fourth."
Yeah. Since he's a little bit more mature,
mature,
he decided third or fourth because he
has his eye on the main prize. He knows
it's possible. Absolutely.
>> Anyway, so yeah, in Aprilia I didn't see
I was going to say I didn't see anything
special today in the pit lane in Aprilia
except for one really really weird thing
which is on the really nicely made
huge part. Maybe you describe it better.
>> a big TV aerial, old school TV aerial
basically just
>> on the bike. an aero sensor basically.
Basically that's what they're doing.
Like you know from Formula 1 and we've
seen it in Aprilia before a couple of
years ago. They have a lot of pitot
tubes which are pressure
pressure
pressure sensors that they put in
different places. And this is something
similar. It looks very different, but
the result is the same. Why they are
doing this at Aprilia
they they don't
they validate if their computer models
are correct.
Cuz the computer models say if we have
this wing here under this degree and
then the bike make this degree and the
rider sits there, then we have this
pressure here, this over pressure, under
pressure, this blah blah blah.
But every now and then you want to make
sure it's still happening because it's
not a car. A lot is moving on the
motorbike. So, You got the rider
moving around.
>> So, you just validate your your computer
pro [music] your computer internal.
That's what it is. So, the only thing I
saw at Aprilia
There was one other thing that I saw.
So, they had um
at the very bottom of the fairing on
either side the these kind of almost
like kind of square buttons in a row.
And obviously another aero thing. I mean
the thing that
They weren't like a vortex generator.
Vortex generators are designed to
control the air flow to speed it up so
that at the back of the fairing the air
flow doesn't break up quickly which
causes drag. You want to a super smooth
You want the air coming off the back of
the fairing quite fast so that the air
flow doesn't break up.
Yeah, I do. I'll I'll put it on my If
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They were weird but these they didn't
look like
I would I would must get on to our our
aero expert and ask him. Ducati had
sort of
swing arm fairing aero which Aprilia
have had for quite a while. I mean
Ducati are just copying Aprilia on aero
all the time now, you know, with the
with the aero foil on the back seat,
with the leg wings, and now with the the
swing arm fairing cuz they know that
they they they've got to catch up, you
know, and and
you know, they were first and second and
third yesterday which suggests that they
have closed the gap. But they still
think that they're
you know
What I think it was
at at Aprilia what you saw these I think
it was a line of sensors to
to measure the pressure when the bike is
making a lot of lean angle and you have
this ground effect where you speed up
the air. But you know it works because
here especially you know it works. But
maybe you also want to know
how much it works or what we maybe need
to do to make it also work with not a
maximum lean angle. Anyway, they want to
learn from from how the bike reacts when
the fairing is really close to the
tarmac. I think that's what they're
doing there.
So, back to another less spectacular
manufacturer, go to Yamaha. What you
should expect considering where the pro
the program where the whole where the
whole situation is at the I was
expecting chassis, swing arms, fairings,
maybe even more riders, but it's not a
lot like that.
Very little hardware to see that's new
on the Yamaha so far. I might have
missed something. I hope I missed something.
something.
But we spoke to Toprak and he's
basically concentrating on turn three
and four because he said in all the
other corners I'm quite close or or good
enough. In three and four I don't know
why I need to improve there. But when he
explains it
how it looks on the he really goes deep,
huh? He said, "When I look at Fabio's
data and then mine,
I already know.
Yeah. The engine brake is not is not
working that But
the the So, his style of braking needs a
very special style.
>> Well, he said normally you do a little
bit of front braking into turn three and
four. A little bit of front and you wait
for the engine to to to bring you back
as well. Cuz the engine brake makes you
also hold the line. He said, "But I have
to keep on braking and if I open the
brake I go wide."
I think 30 minutes after he told us that
he crashed in turn three.
But the bike was still in one piece
because turn three you don't want to
crash. That's kind of what testing's for
is experimenting. And and then talking
about Yamaha that that they they just
recently I went down there and they've
got the the triple wavy wing on the
front again which they used to run on
the V4.
Uh and check yesterday Quartararo was
the fastest Yamaha in the race
yesterday. His fastest race lap and I
know [music] the track's different and
so on but this is quite a significant
difference was 1:38.4.
He's just done a 1:36.8.
So he's nearly 2 seconds faster than he
was, you know. So maybe
you know, I mean you know that that
they're more than a second off the pace
basically. I I'm you know, maybe they
found a couple of maybe they found a few
tenths here cuz when you're a second off
the pace it's easy to find improvements
than when you're two tenths off the
pace. So
you know, who knows? I mean they they
were talking that they would have a new
engine around this time. So maybe
there's a new engine spec. Not a new
engine but a new spec. When you listen
to the riders when they seem to look for everything.
everything.
But I tell you one thing if you give
them a front feeling and a rear a little
bit more grip suddenly all the other
problems are solved. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, especially here which isn't isn't
an engine race track.
>> on the back of the of the back straight
where they measure the top speed which
is super low relatively low.
After the first 1 1/2 hour this morning
the Yamahas were nearly 10 km/h down on
Dani Pedrosa. But Dani Pedrosa is down
in the time list but up in the speed. If
you're 10 km down on him but this is not
it's not even a a long straight. So you
have turn five
which is you need to have the drive out
of turn five and then you do two time
shifts up and then you already start to
brake. So your top speed in Jerez is
comes from the drive out of turn five.
They don't have the drive. You don't
need those power here.
Well, drive and wheelie as well cuz it's
a it's a drops away isn't Yeah, so
that's wheelie.
So Yamaha not too sure about that. They
had even a mechanical problem again. One
bike I mean two bikes came back. One
from a crash, one with something stopped
for some reason. Didn't seem to be >> [music]
>> [music]
>> a full panic but they
they
anyway somewhere at the back of the
exhaust they started to work and then
was out again but still little things
that cost you the track time that they
need so much over there. I mean
Quartararo is fourth at the moment.
Again it doesn't mean [ __ ] but
I guess the rider wasn't pole last year
either. It does seem to me that they
they're almost 2 seconds faster today
than they were yesterday. I I really
really hope because the project doesn't
have enough speed so far. We are over a
year with the bike. It would be nice to
see them
I mean
I was there outside the garage earlier
on. Don't know if I've ever seen so many
people in a two in a factory garage. It
was just rammed. It was like they were
having a party except they
they certainly happened to be full of
fun. But I mean I would love I would
like to see them cuz you know they're working
working
their asses off without a doubt. They're
not they're not playing around and
[music] and it would be nice to see
their reward get that their work being
rewarded a bit, you know. So you know,
maybe we'll go to Le Mans and they'll be
a little bit
less than a second off the But Le Mans
always delivers weird and wonderful
results. So that's a whole other thing, yeah.
yeah. >> [music]
>> [music]
>> What else did we see? Aprilia aero
sensors, aero fairing, Yamaha
aero KTM, lots of aero. So KTM's
definitely trying because they lost so
much in these super fast kinks that you
[music] have like example 10 and 11
here. I went there on track side to
watch again and I I knew it before I
went there but I just want to feel it
again. If you're track side [music]
and you see how they have to enter turn
10 and then the kink of 11. The racing
line is effectively half a meter wide
for them with super high speed. So you
you close the throttle, you brake a
little bit, you put the thing on your
knee almost on your elbow and then it
needs to stay there immediately. Uh it
needs to follow the line which is which
on the on the KTM apparently is a
problem. So if it doesn't really follow
the line goes wide you wait wait wait
until you can open and that that's it. I
mean that that the the turns 11 and 12
as you said turn 11 but you need mean 11
and 12.
11 and 12 are probably two of the most
challenging corners in the in the in the
championship, you know? How close to yeah.
yeah.
And
that you go in there very aggressively
and and if you run wide you're
completely screwed. You're going to have
to you know. Might be coincident but KTM
and Yamaha spotters were all there with
me. They were watching that corner.
Yeah, well I'm sure it wasn't I'm sure
it wasn't you know. Yeah.
Cool. Are we done? Um I've got we've got
to run for the airport. I'm going home.
You're going to India, aren't you?
>> a secret mission your way somewhere
else, yeah. And
couple of flights to go, yeah, whatever.
Yeah, so yeah, this test I was hoping
for a little bit more. I was hoping to
see more things in the Yamaha garage.
You you said there were a lot of people.
I will go back there now straight after
this this podcast to see some special
parts. But the way you know, Brivio was
also talking to us he keeps on saying
yeah, well we have to we started with a
blank sheet. Well, after a year it's not
longer a blank sheet for me. You need
should be somewhere. But I really want
them to to speed up. They they must Oh,
now while I'm thinking of it they must
have had something quite special this
morning because Fabio went to to Jack
when Jack was after Jack came in with
the bike and wanted to speak with him
about something that was on the bike.
Then Rins joined the conversation. There
was something that they wanted to share
their opinions about and
Yeah, that normally means something
something significant, isn't it? Yeah.
Are we done or not? We done? I think
we're done. This is the test here and up
to Le Mans. Thanks for listening
everybody and we'll be back next Sunday
with a podcast on the Sunday between
Jerez and Le Mans. Okay. What do we do
there by then?
>> guys. It's secret. We're not telling
anyone. It's always secret, you know.
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