The conversation explores the concept of "Aerosamos" as the antidote to spiritual amnesia, emphasizing inner unification, remembrance of our eternal and sovereign nature, and the interconnectedness of all beings as fundamental to spiritual evolution.
We ourselves are in a finite experience.
And so that that core eternal nature
belongs to our soul. And then from there
the multi-dimensional aspect of that
becomes that we are part of even a
larger consciousness or one could say an oversoul.
oversoul.
>> When did you first start to like
percolate that idea that there is even a
natural law that all universal beings
and planets and galaxies operate on?
There are many like main stays in
esoterica and natural law is by far one
of them because natural law is
the first expression of the law of one.
So the law of one you could look at it
has many different layers to it but the
first manifestation of the law of one is
Sarah Alcali, welcome back on Just Tap In.
In.
Instead of asking you what you're most
excited about, I wanted to start off a
little bit differently today and ask you
what is the most important mystery
teaching of our current time that you're
>> The most important I would say is aerosamos
aerosamos
at infinitum. It it is the most timeless
teaching and the one that is preserved
in the most esoteric levels of each age.
So I shall not
thwart that tradition.
>> Wow. I mean, I've heard the term Aeros
before, but I'd love to get an overview
from you about why that teaching has
been so prevalent for you and and
because it is the antidote to spiritual amnesia.
amnesia.
I find usefulness in all experiences and
in all levels of consciousness. I don't
feel like there is nothing to be gained
and to be valued for our own expansion
and our own soul's evolution and that's
why we're here. But once we've had
enough of that, we realize that it is
suffering to live in division and
polarity consciousness
and that those different degrees of
suffering get, you know, very intense.
And so then we have that higher calling
to somehow be of service to others or
service to all in some cases. And that
would be unifying. That would be coming
out of spiritual amnesia, out of that
divisional state that causes so much
fragmentation and therefore so much suffering.
suffering.
And that's what we know also in this age
is just separation consciousness. And so
the antidote to that is aeroscamos. It's
that inner unification that leads to us
even if we weren't trying to that inner
unification will lead to emerging with
>> I mean the term amnesia implies that we
forgot something and I'm curious to know
what you feel is that missing piece that
not only we forgot but we are starting
to remember through that inner
we start to remember that we are eternal
and that we are both the fractal and the
fragment of source.
So we are source at that highest level
and then we go into you know different fractals
fractals
of source. So we go into different
unique expressions of source and we
explore our uniqueness and our
perceptions. But that core amnesia is
around the fact that we are eternal and
essentially sovereign beings. So what
that means is that the soul itself has
sovereignty even over our whole
experience. And so once again it's fun
to explore separation consciousness
because I even talk about this in my
poetry like what a great way to get the
relief of
everything all all of our eternalness
at rest. Wouldn't that be like a
vacation at some point? Wouldn't that amnesia,
amnesia,
you know, not always need to be a
negative thing if that was wanted for
certain experiences?
So, it can almost be a vacation from
God. It could be our vacation from being
source. It's to go create these
limitations which we can grow through
and then eventually expand beyond.
But that amnesia is also you know taking
different forms like I said of
suffering. And so because of that the
the amnesia's antidote would be that
remembrance to the fact that we are
eternal. We are sovereign beings and
that we are all one.
And I I mean eternity and eternal also
bridges really deeply with the concept
of multi-dimensionality that we're
operating also in in these parallel
infinite timelines or selves multi-dimensionally.
multi-dimensionally.
How would you break that down on a on a
simple level for people of of what it
really means to remember our eternity
and that we're also operating in this
infinity u space continuum space-time
continuum not just in these physical
bodies right now but there's almost like
more to that as well.
>> Yeah. Thank you for helping ground that
concept because we ourselves, you know,
have we ourselves are in a finite
experience and so that that core eternal
nature belongs to our soul and then from
there the multi-dimensional aspect of
that becomes that we are part of even a
larger consciousness or one could say an oversoul.
oversoul.
And so because of that, what
multi-dimensional means is really being
able to not just expand our
consciousness, but as I talk about the
upgrades expand our body, mind, spirit
so that we have the bandwidth just like
almost our meridians can serve as fiber
optics and that's what will make us not
go ungrounded or not explode. So it's
not just about the consciousness being
expanded into the fact that we are more
than just this singularity, this single
person and our single consciousness,
but also the framework within the body
mind to receive that. Um the bandwidth
is what I call it or the up upgrades to
receive that. So that's really important
too in this age because we're learning
about embodiment,
right? And we're we're unifying that
chasm between the mind and the body in
this age. And that's why we hear so much
about integration. But when we're
integrating multi-dimensional
consciousness, what that's happening is
at a body, mind, spirit level, we are merging
merging
with our higher self and then from there
our oversoul. So, we're merging with our
higher expressions because I'm sure you
know that there's more than one sphere
that we exist in.
>> So, it really depends on
multi-dimensionality can mean one of
those levels of our consciousness that
are higher than us or it could mean the
level beyond that one or beyond that one
just depending on our own journey. But
it gets a little weird, you know,
because we break out of whatever the
confines of our ego, our self-concept,
our personality is when we're literally
expanding to meet more of our higher
consciousness, our multi-dimensional
consciousness. It's multi-dimensional
for a reason. It doesn't have just one
dimensional expression of it. And so
that's one of the things that is really
interesting in this age is watching that
merge happen. It's it's fun, but it's
also like kind of like uh awkward. You
have to go into like non-judgment
sometimes even just to expense like okay
all right more of my consciousness is
coming through and this is how it is. H
also one of the ways it plays out is
you've said that it is more natural in
this age to have come from lifetimes of
mastery. The things we have already
mastered in past lives play a heavy role
in determining our curriculum in this
life or for this life. Um bringing that
factor in there, lifetimes of mastery
and that awkward stage that you say
we're going through. How do we navigate,
you know, remembering these lifetimes of
mastery where we were these master
alchemists, for example,
um, you know, that knew all these things
about reality and could move things with
our mind and can do all these
extraordinary things and then going
through the awkward stage of almost
merging different uh, realities while
we're in that, you know, denser
realities with higher consciousness as
well. I don't know. It's a It's a loaded
question in there, Sarah, but I know you
can handle it.
>> I I was actually following you the whole time.
time.
>> Yeah, I know. I know.
>> I I I You're speaking my language. So,
we go with the energies of an age,
right? Because in past ages,
there was a lot of differentiation.
Don't get me wrong. It's not like we
only had one path we could take in each
age, but there were still overall themes
in each age because of the energies.
And so
why I'm bringing that up is because in
past ages some of the paths I'll give an
example are that monks would take an
oath of silence
or they would be master meditators in a
specific lineage. You know because
there's so many different forms of
meditation. They could have mastered a
specific lineage. They could have even
already had ascended
because they mastered
literally leaving the body. That's what
we're discovering this age too, that um
all these like more eastern traditions
had it. It was more common for them to
just levitate and peace out. And so we
can master that in maybe one age because
the energies of that age were really
focused around learning those themes.
And that's why it makes no sense to to
necessarily bash but to widen our
consciousness into integrating them
because that could have been just like
we learn something. We don't start off
just knowing everything. We learn
something and we develop it. And so
those things that I consider now like
the old age of spirituality, they still
um we're building on those. So it's not
like they were wrong. It's just that
we're learning how to now bring them
into the emotional body, which is the
spirit of this age. It's that's why we
hear the rise of the divine feminine.
It's because the feminine aspect
has um is way more nonlinear, is way
harder to pinpoint. It's not just one
thing, but one of the largest
expressions is the will. And I'll say
this another way. It's the will, but
it's also the emotional body. It's also
the nonlinear consciousness.
So, we're really allowing that to get
the spotlight in the energies of this
age, but that's going on with a few
other things. So,
now I'm going to just make this super
condensed. In past ages, we learned how
to master the mind and we learned all
the powers of the mind. And now, in this
age, we're learning how to be an body
and it doesn't look as graceful. And so
now we're learning about authenticity.
Why? Because that's another way of
saying unconditional love.
Unconditional love is not different.
Maybe in the perception where we're
still figuring out division. It looks
different, but it just means an
unconditioned state. That's what
unconditional love is. It's not
conditioned. You have no conditions. So
it's authenticity. No conditions. It's
not like, oh, I have a condition. and I
can't present that. I can't express
that. So these are different terms for
the same thing. And so I just stick with
transparency because transparency is
still a new term. So people can't
calcify into it yet. I try to use new
terms so that we're shifting the
perception and we see things from a
fresh way rather than just repeat things
until they become uh like you know no
desensitized to them. So in this age,
what we're really learning is to
be ma master
falling on our sword. We're learning to
beautifully fall off our own um you know
that saying like you get up on the horse
and you fall off again. You get up on
the horse and you fall off again. We're
learning how to fall gracefully off of
the horse because that's building up the
feminine the the rise of the divine
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What's really tied in there because you
you brought up the word gracefully and
when I was listening in in your new
series on Gaia uh mystery teachings,
you talk about on on episode 4 actually
the ascension cycles that humanity goes
through and these are higher timelines
that we go through where the veils are
thinner in a sense and you talk about
how the universe does give us these
grace periods. uh time for increased
awareness that I believe and and I think
that's what you're referring to what
we're in right now. So that period of
grace, I'd love to understand from a
universal perspective why a species
that's going through an evolutionary
leap is given a period of grace and how
can we land into that knowing that, you
know, it doesn't have to be perfect the
ascension process right now because the
universe is like, okay, like I'm going
to give you some time to really
understand what's going on uh and have
awareness around it.
>> Yeah. So
um the grace period that I was
mentioning is simply the the in physics
I'm sure there's a way of
presenting this term but in spirituality
I view it as an alchemical process of
separating to reunify at a higher level
and that's what purification really is
because if you look at anything within
physics within nature something gets
purified through going through like a
spiral process, right? Even even
clothes, right, in a in a washer, it's
like why are they going like that? So
like things get purified through
>> good metaphor that movement. Yeah. And
so what what that does is that separates
something. So you're separating, let's
say in this case, lower consciousness or
the dross. That's what we would call it
in alchemy. You're always separating the
dross. It's no chill, right? So um if
something is no longer serving us um
there is that compassionate self inquiry
but at the end of the day these are
things that are like um the the essence of
of
what is not our truest essence put it
that way and so it's just considered
like a purification process of the draw
so to speak or that lower consciousness.
And so through that movement of solv
coagula or to separate to reunify again
or recombined
um that's what I'm also calling in that
setting as a grace period but that's
because we have free will. So another
way of saying all of this is that there
are different influences
on this playing field called earth.
And those different influences
won't just all happen. Even though they
have a rhythm, they have like a a
pendulum swing of um power, let's call
it that they trends take over and what
have you. Um there's still these strong
influential forces that can help people
or can test people in some cases.
And that's because we have free will.
And so what we're doing in this time
period right now is allowing more of
those catalysts, allowing more of those
forces to help people because we're in
between realms. Some of us are are very
solidly placed in the higher
frequencies. Some of us are very solidly
placed in the lower frequencies, but
then in between you have a lot of this
melting pot. you have these higher and
lower influences and they're acting upon
people that are in between realms.
They're they're in between and so
nothing's actually wrong because a
process wouldn't go, "Oh, it perfectly
splits." So this is still all a part of
the evolutionary process. Even what I'm
describing as a grace period is still a
part of it. And so what people are
really doing right now is having
stronger lessons, a stronger curriculum
so that they can activate that higher
mind, that higher consciousness or even
just that heart-c centered consciousness
through stronger let's say uh
inspirations. We might have
we might have things show up inside the
external world that might look one way,
but really it could be the largest grace
if it's helping activate something
within us or catalyze something within
us that just was not catalyzed before.
And so that's why I would consider it
like a grace period. It's really um also
seen as like a disillusionment period
which is also alchemical.
Disillusionment is one of the steps in
alchemy as well.
>> Another term that you use for these
moments is rights of passage and I was
really drawn to when you first used that
term um or when I first heard you use
that term because it's sort of like uh
you know in in a story a character has
to go through this right of passage and
or almost like a hero's journey. How do
you view some of those, I guess, most
prevalent rights of passage that people
might be going through individually,
but also collectively as a mirror to
what's actually going on in this? Um,
the image I got for it was like a bell
curve. You have the people that are
going to toward that 5D, 3D, but then,
you know, most, you know, most of
everyone is in that in between state in
the middle of the bell curve. So what
are those rights of passages that are
maybe introducing us to the door of the
higher densities as well?
>> The good news is is that people many
beings especially people tuning into
this episode uh they hold that higher
frequency strongly not like oscillating
anymore in between and it's okay even if
they do but they hold that higher
frequency. What that does is
I'm trying to think of a different
example, but I'll go with what I'm
given. It's like how a mother bird re
like chews the food so that it can
already have it in a digestible form to
others. There's these like streams. And
so because of that,
we are broadcasting things to help
people through their rights of passage
so that it's um
easier, not in a way where it robs
somebody of their lessons, but that it's
easier for people because the energies
are primed. And so those rights of
passage are hard to communicate because
you can say things with words as much as
you can, but really those are just the
seeds that are planted. And that
eventually what hap needs to happen
which is the strongest and the first I
would say right of passage is that a
person has to really understand at a
visceral level uh natural law and so
what they will get tested with and and
then that moves on from there that would
say I would say that's the first initiation.
initiation.
So I don't sometimes in the age we love
to kind of like pendulum swing a
concept. So we go there's tests and then
we go there's no test. The universe
isn't testing you because you always
grow from that. You always grow from
that dialect.
That's how growth produces. You have
something say something then somebody
say the opposite but then that births
something else. So a right of passage
gets played out through tests.
And so on one hand a person could
philosophize there's no such thing as
tests. You're testing yourself. But
actually the universe in order for us to
mature puts us through tests
and those tests lead to either initiation
initiation
or what you said earlier the heroes call
it be like answering the call or it
would be not. And you know that always
gets another try. So, but what those
tests are that lead to the first right
of passage is being able to really see
what a hive mind, what a group think is
and then to see through it. And so
that's many of the lessons that some
people are going through. Not everyone,
some people already are past that. But
that will be the first right of passage
because a person is being taught at that
point what natural law is. And for
natural law to be embodied within a
person, they need to be put through
tests of having to go, "Oh, wait. No, I
don't agree. This is wrong or this is
right." So they they need to birth that
>> When did you first touch on that there
was a natural law existing in the
universe? Because it's not like we're
given a handbook when we're we're coming
in here be like these are the the three
key principles that you're supposed to
follow because the universe operates
that way. Was it through observing
nature? Was it through just your own
internal meditations, contemplations?
When did you first start to like
percolate that idea that there is even a
natural law that all universal beings
and planets and galaxies operate on? So,
So,
um, I had already came in with natural
law. That's not something I need to
master. I still have my own things to
master and I'm always growing and I'm
always being humbled. But natural law
was something that is just innate within
me. And so, when I found
mystery school teachings about natural
law, I went, "Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, people
know about this." It was like in my head
I've always I've always been reverse
engineering things, right? Like um I was
I was like, "Wait, if an apple goes up
in the air," this was like me in high
school acting like a stoner. I was like,
"Wait, if an apple goes up in the air
and it comes down, then that doesn't
just mean that that's for an apple. That
is a law." And so this was before I even
like knew these things. So like I had
already been
my whole life exploring these things and
then I would go and give myself like
these like um logical formulas and I go,
"Oh, if that is that, then that." So, I
had already been like in this. And so,
when I came across mystery teachings,
mystery school teachings that were
teaching these things, there were
nothing that I had to be sold on or
believe. I went, "Oh, okay. I don't need
to write a book on this because people
already figured this out.
>> You resonated it somehow. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Remembered it.
>> Yeah. And so to answer your question, um
even though I did come in with that
already, the it's it's prevalent. There
are many like main stays in esoterica
and natural law is by far one of them
because natural law is
the first expression of the law of one.
So the law of one you could look at it
has many different layers to it. But the
first manifestation of the law of one is
natural law. And so because of that even
if it's not called natural law it will
be in any esoteric system. For instance
the first from um this age that we are
now in the first name for it was uh sata dharma.
>> What is that?
>> And now we know it as natural law. Uh
sata dharma. Okay. So dharma means once
again many things but dharma means
nature. So we already have natural law
in that. So dharma means nature and then
sata dharma basically means like the
largest nature the most core nature >> right
>> right
>> that's a rough translation.
>> Yeah we might also know about it with
the name the golden rule essentially
like if if you if you tie it into its
core it's like don't do unto others what
you wouldn't have wanted to be done unto
you. Um, one thing that really stood out
there for me when you were explaining
natural law in in other videos is you
have to be very responsible for your actions,
actions,
but also your non-actions.
And that the actions that we don't take,
our non-actions can cause just as much
harm as taking harmful actions.
How is that? So,
>> yeah. So that's the detriment of passivity.
passivity.
>> So as you So passivity has a very high
expression, positive expression and then
passivity has a very detrimental
expression. Just like everything it has
a positive and a negative pole. And so
when we are in passivity and its
negative expression rather than its
positive expression,
positive expression is we receive
We surrender. So so many beautiful
things come from we manifest. So many
things come from positive passivity. But
the negative passivity is when we are
actively a coward, actively
um turning a blind eye, actively not
aligning with correct action even though
we know better or actively lied to
ourselves so that we can go into a lower
state of consciousness and therefore go
into separation because we feel like we
can't um we feel like it would be too
much in whatever way that means to
somebody. too much to do something, too
>> It it gives a lot of food for thought as
well because, you know, as I was
listening to that, it it it makes you
also think about the ways in your life
where maybe you're not taking action
being like, "Oh, that's not something I
should be involved in." But just by you
having awareness over it, it means you
can take in sovereign action onto that
and and change whatever you're seeing
that you don't like. Um before this this
call, um I know you won't have a problem
with me saying this, but you told me I
don't want to be known as the timeline
chick, you know, like as we're as joking
as we were joking. Um, but that you're
really focused on, you know, there's
these issues in the outer world that
you're seeing that you don't necessarily
resonate with that you feel called that
that's a call for you to, you know, do
something about that. How did that tie
into your knowledge around natural law
and wanting to maybe change these things
and these systemic things in the world
that we're seeing that we might feel
powerless over that oh like I can't
change the whole economic system like
I'm just one person. Um you get where
I'm going in that sense of like we might
feel small in the face of these larger
issues but we're still seeing them. So,
what can we do about that?
>> Yeah. Um, when I first had met Natural
Law Proper, let's call it in this
lifetime, I was relieved cuz then it
gave me permission to already be myself
and do what I was already doing. Before
it was cringe when you care because you
know like you're passionate and when
you're passionate in a world especially
when you're younger and you're
passionate and so everybody's still very
locked into their thirddimensional
self-concept it looks weird. You feel
weird because you feel like you're
burying your soul and you feel like
you're too intense.
And so it gave me permission to just be
intense because that's not really
something that I could change about
myself. And so I went like, "Oh, see,
look, you have to you have to do you
have to be a spiritual activist because
so it just was a giant permission slip
that I was at least I I was right on
track for my life." And so how I see
this playing out inside the larger world
is where we follow
our own passion, whatever those actions
are. Because let me tell you one thing.
It's easier for me to come here and say
to people, yeah, you have to take right
action. But we don't really know what
right action is. And what we take the
action for in one stage of our life, we
might look back 5, 10, 20 years later
and say, "Oh my god, like I lent more of
my action to evil."
So because of that, we take the actions
that we feel
we're most aligned with while knowing
that we'll expand and we'll look back
and say that was the best I was doing at
that time and now this is what I feel is
the best actions.
And that doesn't mean that we were ever
that what I said about evil was a joke.
That doesn't mean that we ever
didn't need to take an action because
how do we know unless we do something?
We can't deprive ourselves of those lessons.
lessons.
So, we do the best we can. We might feel
called right now to take actions in a
certain way, whatever that is for somebody.
somebody.
But we have to stay open to maybe that
there's a larger calling and then an
even more aligned action. And so to go
back to how I was talking about rights
of passage earlier and how you had
mentioned that about like what are the
rights of passage? One of them is that
you will be replaced in whatever role
you are taking. So do not feel the
pressure to not expand and evolve into
your next role because it is law that
someone will come to fill that spot. And
when we deprive where we feel called to
serve next that helps nobody, not even
the one who will receive that spot that
they mag get magnetized and called into.
And so because of that,
if we just allow ourselves to know while
we're taking actions that we stay open
to maybe moving into what we now see are
better actions, ones that serve all at a
at a better way, whatever better means
for somebody. And that's, you know,
that's ego deaths, right? Those those
necessarily aren't fun. But but I mean,
I think it's fun now, right? Because you
just you do it so many times that you
just go like you just you just tuck and roll.
roll.
You just fall off the horse gracefully.
You go on the sword gracefully. You
know, if you if you go with the
energies, it's not as hard as then like,
"Oh, it needs to be a dark night of the
soul." You just go like, "Oh, I'm
expanding again."
And so what that has led me into
personally is going, okay, maybe
spiritual activism isn't going to get
through the way that I want to to to
maybe a, you know, like larger, you
know, calcified forces, let's call them.
So I'm learning in my own way how to
really transmute and to alchemize things
at my level of consciousness that I'm at now.
now.
It it's also a huge permission slip
because if you feel like you've just
been going through the motions at
something that you're perhaps already
very good at because you've been doing
it for so long to expand that and
knowing like the universe will never
leave like something that was meant to
happen like just blank and no one else
will do it. like the fact that you you
mentioned how
someone will replace you. Obviously,
never in the same coloring and and
texture that we do it with, but it's a
permission slip to say yes to that
higher evolution. So, super powerful
that that you you just mentioned there.
You brought up uh the calcified forces.
I also did want to speak on and touch on
uh the subtle manipulations and those
unseen forces that you call the
predictive programming that is around us
because part of natural law is the free
will and that you can't take another
person's free will. So when when we see
you know things that we don't like going
on in the world and we say but how did
that person agree to that? Maybe they
did it through these covert strategies
that were uh used to get to them in
different ways and you highlight those
very clearly. I love to just give us
space to um sort of express how we can
still say yes by not deliberately saying
yes to something that maybe isn't in our
highest alignment.
>> Yeah. So before this age we weren't very emotionally
emotionally
um intelligent and that's nothing to
that I'm just saying it as it is there's
nothing you know we are babies we're
growing so we had mastered other things
but not emotional intelligence and so
imagine forces that know a person's
emotional body and their energy field
more than they know them. You can work
their hemispheres. You could work their
sense of reality and manipulate their
perceptions. Even easy, dare I say, if a
person doesn't start off knowing
anything about themselves.
And so what we're really learning in
this age, which I love, is like the
nervous system. And we're learning about
like oh
these types of energy centers even
combined with you know these types of
the higher mind or hormone production.
We're learning all about ourselves now
at a bodily level from our organs, our
glands, our nervous system, our brain.
And so we're understanding the the
limbic warfare that goes on with like,
oh, okay, they can get me caught in a
trauma mind control loop if they're
showing me that or if they're
manipulating me in this way or through
repetition. Repetition is a strong way.
You repeat something through enough
sources enough and that repetition will
shape your the motherboard of your
nervous system and your subconscious. so
that you are without even your own
awareness contributing your free will
into these creations
um these mass timelines that are being
created. And so because of that, we're
really understanding the way that we
respond to things or react to things,
the way that things are being presented
to us. I saw the funniest thing the
other day. Um I don't know why it came
up on my feed, but maybe it was to share
this story. I saw this like 10-minute
clip of how the person who had ran
McDonald's, the founder, was not the
original founder, but he like tricked
the original founders out of it. And he
he was showing he was like doing this
one interview and he said like the
funniest things and I was like that
would never pass in this age. He was
like, well, people like McDonald's
because it digests greatly, so it's
healthy for them and so people like
healthy food. like he was just saying
something very like
>> in this age no one would believe you and
this is the progress we're making.
People can't just pull one over on the
collective now. And so because of that
we're emotionally more mature. We know
ourselves more. We still have a lot to
go, you know, to bring in that more
higher dimensional consciousness, but we
we're on track. And so all of that has
to do with the fact that we are becoming
spiritually sovereign. Meaning that we
know that on the most subtle layers that
we are consenting or non-consenting to
things and we are now giving our power
and our sovereignty to the things that
we want to create and understanding that
even when we're against something, it's
good to be aware of that, but to also
know that we can't create from that same
energetic playing field. So, we're we're
just learning spiritual sovereignty by
all of these different ways that um the
predictive programming has been
broadcasting literally um their their
spells. We have caught up to that now I
would say.
>> In what ways has your discernment
helped you avoid a negative timeline
Actually, yeah, it's trusting my clar
sentience at this point because I'm clar
cognizant, but um my sentience at this
point will really get louder. And I'm
like, okay, I'm going to have to just
trust my sentience now as a point of
stronger discernment than how I'm
usually used to. My discernment usually
comes invisibly and I'm always still
learning discernment as well. But I
would say that um
that discernment is something that I do
um pay attention to and I do I do
cultivate. And so because of that um I'm
used to discernment being my main way of
operating or at least knowing how to
where those gaps are to help fill them
in and become better at discernment. And
so what I have noticed is that discernment
will start communicating to us on
different levels depending like the the
more we evolve the more discernment even
expresses itself in this field. So how
it's helped me is when um there's just certain
certain
um people, places or things that now my
my physical visceral sentience is coming
online to either say this is this is
beneficial or this is non-beneficial.
And then I'm just kind of surrendering
into that because that's
a form of discernment that I'm not
really used to operating in. Um what
what's coming to me is that we're a lot
more powerful than we think. And the
reason that came up was because for
example there are these predictive programming
programming
um forces. A lot of them are in the form
of media outlets and and popular you
know movies and shows and things like
that. And you and I both were working a
lot with higher level concepts and
consciousness like throughout our
workday especially. And we all have our
grounding tools of choice. Like for me
it's exercise, nature, and sometimes
it's reality TV. And I came to the
awareness the other day that what I was
watching it was like very subtly
manipulating me into making these
behaviors and actions normalized.
And what I said was like, okay, like
maybe I could take a step away from this
show and like I'm not going to watch
anymore. And I did that for a while. But
I also realize there's a powerful
opportunity here because we also bring
in these codes and healing energies to
do grid work on these systems. And so I
still can watch a show. I can make a
declaration which we'll talk about what
that is before I watch it and still also
send healing frequency to maybe
transmute or alchemize some energy in
that particular system. So, a lot of us
might be like, "Oh, I'm abandoning the
abandoning this food, that food, this
show, that show." Like, I don't want
anything to do with it. And that's
completely okay. Like, that's completely
amazing. But what are your thoughts on
maybe staying with it in the in the face
of it and in a sense
allowing our energy and power to help
transmute and alchemize as the alchemist
that you are yourself? I'd love to hear
your your perspective on that. Of
course, it's just a thought that came to mind.
mind.
>> Well, the idea of you being inspired by
that means that there's something there
because I would I that's not where I
want to place my energy. So, where we
where we
like where where we do that means that
there's something there. Especially
someone like yourself. Like I I feel
like you know what you're doing at a
subconscious level. So I would say go
with it. Um because that's really cool
that a person you know like you feels
called to really like experiment there.
There's something there. Then I would
say like break the morphic field, shift
the template, alchemize the things that
are broadcasting that that would be that
that's amazing and I totally believe
that that can be done. Um for me I do
that in my own way just with um
grounding that is that was that the
question? Yeah I I dance I'm even
thinking about maybe even taking a dance
class but I don't know if I want to
bring it that deep but I'm actually a
really good dancer. So I've been dancing
>> I saw a video of you. You got some
moves. You got some moves.
>> Yeah. And so like for me the
groundingness of that is really just the
movement when I'm moving energy like
that. That's totally grounding for me
>> because as you know I'm clar cognizant
and as you know like I I deal a lot more
with the higher mind
and so I'm not necessarily anchored in
this reality the way that maybe other
people are and I'm not attached the way
that normally I I find out about things
like a year later I'm like no way that
happened and like they're like don't
make a post about that. That's old. So,
>> old news. Old news.
>> Yeah. I'm like, "Oh, I'm so mad."
So, um, so grounding is definitely done
through like the dancing and the
movement. I think that that's very shamanic
shamanic
>> for sure. And when it comes to these,
you mentioned traumabased mind control
um, that bring us out of our neoortex,
our, you know, probably our higher reasoning.
reasoning.
There are there are ways to counteract
these these forces and I wanted to in a
way highlight some of those that you
mentioned. I brought up declarations
which is one that you teach but to go
really deep into that because it does
help us sustain our spiritual
sovereignty when we know and we're aware
of these and we're not just operating
from ignorance in that sense. And and
that's why I really wanted to bring this up.
up.
>> Yeah. So that's why I was like, "Oh, he
you want to alchemize the TV shows, go
for it." It's because
that like I heard that about some of the
some of the apps that we're on too. Like
people want to like put their own
frequencies into that and I'm like yes,
yes, this is how you know we shift
things. We experiment. and we go, "What
if I wanted to do that?" and stuff. And
like that is the best state to be in
because declarations work the best when
a person is not in fear while they're
making them. When they're going like,
"Wait, what if I wanted to do this?"
Like, do you see how that's a far more
empowering? Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> And do you see how do you see how that's
not scared? That's like just inquisitive
and open. That's a very powerful energy
to be in. And so if a person's in that
state of like, "No, that's not as
powerful. I bet you I could do this instead
instead
while they're doing a declaration that
is enhanced because declarations are
very important for us to be in our
sovereignty." And but they're more like
once you're really in your sovereignty,
they're more just like uh I'm going to
do that for safety.
They're not like I do, you know, like
you have to like fully command it and
fully whatever. They're more just like
in my day I'll be driving or I'll be
talking to someone or I'll be even in a
space and I could feel the radonics,
you know, like when I'm out somewhere, I
can sense if a place I'm sure many
people can, but I can sense the
radionics. And so then I'm like and then
I say a declaration to neutralize that energy.
energy.
And then um sometimes I'll even have
like my Blu-ray angels around me if the
place or whatever is like super intense,
but that's that's rare. So the
declarations are there at a certain
point of our own journey,
but they're not like the shield
defending us because we're sovereign
enough. And so they're just there
because we've become lawyers at a
certain point and we know we're like,
"Oh, I see what that's doing and I
rewrite that. I recode that." So the
declarations are very important. I would
say what empowers them is as I said
being in an open and inquisitive way
because that is just charging it.
>> Yeah. I also to a to a point you just
shed these maybe notions of I need like
this protection and and shielding and
you know and probably about a year ago I
would every time I leave the house the
shield the thing then you know the color
the violet the gray the
and then just at a certain point you're
like your vibration in itself is what is
you know keeping you away from maybe
other vibrations that are unmatched to
that, you know, and the more aware you
are of your own vibration and your own
inner unity and harmony, then you know,
all those other stuff are extras and and
nice to haves and probably waste of
times at some point when you're like
sage shield, the color, the gold, the
purple, you know what I'm saying?
>> And I don't I don't want to bash or put
those down. It's just that when when
like how I said earlier, if we're
charged with inquisitiveness while going
up against broadcasting,
if we're if we want to infuse and charge
things back into strong systems of like
very um very advanced types of spiritual
gridding, then inquisitiveness would be
the best energy to harmonize that first.
Just like that, the law of one is what
harmonizes and charges our protection.
So if we're doing all of that and we
haven't cultivated the inner understanding
understanding
that we are all one, the understanding
of whatever it means to a person because
like I said there's so many different
layers to law of one but we don't need
to get super cerebral about that. life
will connect us with whatever lessons or
curriculum that we need to at that time
and so we can just focus on that and
then consider that like yeah I'm
embodying the law of one through this
right now and then that will grow and
then we'll learn more but however that
presents to somebody and it will present
to everyone so however a person is
learning the law of one and embodying
that will be what charges whatever
things that they are doing to protect
themselves and then what they might find
is that the more that they are inner
embodying and radiating and even
illuminating the law of one from their
energy field that that is doing a lot of
the protection for them and so they can
still do things. I'm
protection is too delicate and nuanced
of a topic to just throw everything in
one category or the other. And what I
would even say is that when we throw
protection into one category where we
need it a lot and we rely heavily on it,
um, or the other category where we don't
need it at all, I would call those
polarities the false light. So I would
just bridge those into the middle way
which is saying that whatever a person
feels or resonates with doing for
protection at a time
do as thou wilt. Just know that it is
not as strong and it cannot protect you
from the law of one. So to embody the
law of one is to already not need as
much and then from there protect away. I
have protection. Um, but what I've
noticed is especially for for people who
are visible and who are speaking change
into the world and touching people's
minds and hearts, it would be very
irresponsible of me to say, "Oh, yeah,
no, you're fine. You don't need any
protection." because literally just like
the radionics inside a store goes off um
we can start going into some form of
separation uh consciousness. So
protection, I feel like personally I
might grow out of this one day, but at
the moment I feel like we're all fine
with whatever we do for protection and
that that's very responsible, but that
it's not the end all beall if we're not
embodying the law of one and that maybe
at even a certain point in human
evolution, it might be something of the past.
past.
>> Beautiful. I also wanted to ask you what
has been your greatest
understanding about the law of one specifically?
specifically? >> Oo,
it is to um it gets Shakespearean. My
greatest understanding would be the one
that pulls at my heart the most, which
is to know that
unconditional love could love to such a
degree that it will allow you to suffer
or anything to suffer because that's how
much it honors you as sovereign even if
you're in a state of spiritual amnesia
to your own sovereignty.
And that's very poetic >> extremely.
>> extremely.
And that changes the notion of what
suffering is completely.
So when you're going through periods of
suffering and when you see the
collective suffering,
how do you then perceive those moments
So I switch polarities. If unconditional
love is so allowing, then it needs its arms
arms
and its hands and its eyes and its mouth
because it's not embodied. So that
unconditional love and force will work
through us, but when it works through
us, it won't show up necessarily as the
same version. It might show up in the
active polarity rather than just the
one, oh, I will let you suffer. And so
how I do that is basically through action.
>> But there's always a dance just like you
know to to separate and unify again at a
higher level. You're always learning
between love as action and love as non-action
non-action
because both are valid and it really
just depends on our lessons and our
discernment to understand which one is
called for at that time. But usually I
will say that it's some form of um
action because we're here we're here
with arms and legs. So that's a little
clue that we're allowed and we're meant
to take actions. And so those actions,
you know, are going to be different for everyone.
everyone. Um
Um
so not everyone needs to take the same
actions. When I say action, it might
kind of like sound like we have to have
some sort of call to action. I don't
have a specific call to action for
everyone. It's just the person's soul's
call to action for whatever they feel is
contributing to the higher consciousness
>> Okay, so the petty tyrants is a castana
phrase. So um Carlos Castanada created a
shaman Don Juan and he used teachings
through through the literary device or
through the character of Don Juan to go
give teachings and so at a point he's
brought in the teachings through Don
Juan his character that he wrote about
teaching about the petty tyrants and it
was a way to really alchemize
the the attacks and even just the things
that are meant to take us out of our
power, to chip away at our power, to
diminish us. And it's a great way to
alchemize it if you no longer look at it
as so powerful that oh my god, they're
against us. Um because that can really
set a tone that makes us view things as
more powerful than they really are.
Instead, it's like a petty tyrant. It's
not even a tyrant. It's a petty tyrant,
you know, like somebody who's in a
position of possibly very little to no
power. And when we look at it that way
now, that completely alchemizes the
situation to where we're not looking at
it like, "Wow, you're this large tyrant
that is opposing me." Instead, it's,
"Wow, you're a part of this archetypal
character that will always escort me
into my next level of myself." So, it'll
show up in like different ways. Um, they
help enhance
the reflection of yourself. But when I
say enhance, that could even mean
distort it, right? Like they could, you
know how those like characterizations
of like those drawings where like your
features are exaggerated for satire? >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> They can give you back things and that
does not necessarily mean that any of
it's accurate. That could just be sheer
projection. However, the point is is
that the depending on how much clarity
because I'm not saying that none of the
petty tyrants, none of them can offer
something. I'm just saying that what
we're learning is to see ourselves in a
very distorted mirror. Kind of like you
go into like a hall of mirrors and that
way you look around and the petty
tyrants are meant to kind of like
reflect back to you distortions of
yourself but within those distortions
you can still gain something. So it's
almost like the alchemy of it is imagine
you inside a very distorted mirror. You
know those like funhouse mirrors. >> Yeah. But what if that funhouse mirror
>> Yeah. But what if that funhouse mirror needed to shape you so crazy? Because
needed to shape you so crazy? Because when you go, "What?" And you look into
when you go, "What?" And you look into that, there's like this one dimension
that, there's like this one dimension from under your nose and you're like, "I
from under your nose and you're like, "I would have never seen my nose like
would have never seen my nose like that."
that." And so like, and maybe the fun house
And so like, and maybe the fun house mirror is showing you how tall your
mirror is showing you how tall your forehead is and you look all crazy, but
forehead is and you look all crazy, but that's not even what you're focused on.
that's not even what you're focused on. You're like, "Why is my nose like that?"
You're like, "Why is my nose like that?" That nose like that is how I could
That nose like that is how I could describe the petty tyrants. They're
describe the petty tyrants. They're showing you like really distorted
showing you like really distorted versions of yourself. Not so you could
versions of yourself. Not so you could go look at how bad you are. Accept them.
go look at how bad you are. Accept them. But instead to go, I would have never
But instead to go, I would have never had this aspect of me seen in this light
had this aspect of me seen in this light before. And that might benefit my
before. And that might benefit my awareness. Or that might just be
awareness. Or that might just be something that now I need to completely
something that now I need to completely own that somebody sees that and I have
own that somebody sees that and I have to make peace with the fact that I have
to make peace with the fact that I have no control over how somebody sees that
no control over how somebody sees that sees me like that. Cuz a a large part of
sees me like that. Cuz a a large part of the journey too is being misunderstood.
the journey too is being misunderstood. And if we're constantly
And if we're constantly >> Yeah. If we're constantly defending
>> Yeah. If we're constantly defending ourselves, we have no energy left to
ourselves, we have no energy left to just allow people to perceive ourselves
just allow people to perceive ourselves however they want to or they do and
however they want to or they do and continue to put our energy in whatever
continue to put our energy in whatever we're doing.
>> What would we call those reflections that give back to
call those reflections that give back to us not distortions
us not distortions but maybe show us the best aspects of
but maybe show us the best aspects of ourselves? maybe the the in inherent
ourselves? maybe the the in inherent gifts and the magic that we hold and we
gifts and the magic that we hold and we express. What would we call those
express. What would we call those mirrors and those reflections?
mirrors and those reflections? >> I would call them soulmates.
>> I would call them soulmates. >> Oh wow.
>> Oh wow. >> I definitely see that as the And
>> I definitely see that as the And yes,
yes, there's always benefits in seeing the
there's always benefits in seeing the distortions in ourselves. And so we
distortions in ourselves. And so we could always say that well what who
could always say that well what who loves you more? The tough love. But at
loves you more? The tough love. But at the end of the day, there's different
the end of the day, there's different energies
energies and those energies can be defined into
and those energies can be defined into terms. And so when you see when somebody
terms. And so when you see when somebody sees you in your harmony, that's a
sees you in your harmony, that's a soulmate. And then from there,
soulmate. And then from there, it's not like they're in some sort of
it's not like they're in some sort of fawn response.
fawn response. Soulmates aren't faking it. They don't
Soulmates aren't faking it. They don't need to see that about you. Um they do
need to see that about you. Um they do naturally. There's less distortion. So
naturally. There's less distortion. So when there's less distortion, it's
when there's less distortion, it's because it's it's not even a cerebral
because it's it's not even a cerebral thing. They just know you. They you're a
thing. They just know you. They you're a soulmate, so they just know you. They
soulmate, so they just know you. They see you without the distortions.
>> Is everyone that we come across meant to show us a mirror of ourselves? Or are
show us a mirror of ourselves? Or are there just some background characters
there just some background characters that are just in a way filling spots in
that are just in a way filling spots in our reality? Maybe they have their own
our reality? Maybe they have their own realities and their own soulmates and
realities and their own soulmates and their own tyrants. Um, but yeah, that's
their own tyrants. Um, but yeah, that's something that I've wondered. Uh,
something that I've wondered. Uh, because for example, I can go to the
because for example, I can go to the groceries and there's so many people
groceries and there's so many people there, but I don't interact with
there, but I don't interact with everyone there. And I I'm I'm wondering
everyone there. And I I'm I'm wondering because you've talked about this before,
because you've talked about this before, how you see that in the sense of the
how you see that in the sense of the mirrors that we that we are talking
mirrors that we that we are talking about here that reflect our good parts,
about here that reflect our good parts, our bad parts, uh our shadow selves, and
our bad parts, uh our shadow selves, and all these other aspects of who we are.
all these other aspects of who we are. >> Yeah. And you know, we're also NPCs in
>> Yeah. And you know, we're also NPCs in other people's stories, too. I remember
other people's stories, too. I remember somebody like came into a small health
somebody like came into a small health food store that I was in and they just
food store that I was in and they just came up to me and they asked me
came up to me and they asked me something and I felt like I was an NPC
something and I felt like I was an NPC activated in their story and I was like,
activated in their story and I was like, "What does spirit want me to give this
"What does spirit want me to give this main character on their quest right
main character on their quest right now?" And so I was and so I was like I
now?" And so I was and so I was like I like I I showed them I pointed to the
like I I showed them I pointed to the thing. I said something weird because I
thing. I said something weird because I have to be weird. Um cuz I just think
have to be weird. Um cuz I just think like if the universe sent them to me
like if the universe sent them to me then they want me to be weird. So I just
then they want me to be weird. So I just like did something weird and then like I
like did something weird and then like I was unactivated and I went back to being
was unactivated and I went back to being an NPC. So we're also NPCs in other
an NPC. So we're also NPCs in other people's stories as well. Um
people's stories as well. Um >> what is a NPC just uh for definition
>> what is a NPC just uh for definition purposes?
purposes? >> A non-player character. It's when you're
>> A non-player character. It's when you're not the main character of a story or a
not the main character of a story or a game.
So, a non-player character is like you're not the main character. And so,
you're not the main character. And so, um, yeah, I I would not necessarily call
um, yeah, I I would not necessarily call every single person who we interact with
every single person who we interact with or see inside our reality as necessarily
or see inside our reality as necessarily like they're meant to serve as a mirror.
like they're meant to serve as a mirror. They can. And there's parts of our
They can. And there's parts of our journey where we'll go into certain
journey where we'll go into certain practices. I remember I went into a
practices. I remember I went into a practice for like six months of just
practice for like six months of just like smiling at everyone
like smiling at everyone and then I went into six months of not
and then I went into six months of not just being normal. But I just go into
just being normal. But I just go into these different like little side quests
these different like little side quests just for character development just you
just for character development just you know so there's parts of our journey
know so there's parts of our journey where maybe we will want to make that a
where maybe we will want to make that a fun experiment or a practice where every
fun experiment or a practice where every single person that we see in our reality
single person that we see in our reality means some sort of reflection to us and
means some sort of reflection to us and to figure that out. But for me I would
to figure that out. But for me I would say you know while I'm off the clock on
say you know while I'm off the clock on that that I I don't necessarily perceive
that that I I don't necessarily perceive that. I think that it's the people who I
that. I think that it's the people who I think it's the um the supporting role,
think it's the um the supporting role, shall we say, and everybody's main
shall we say, and everybody's main character story. Everyone's the main
character story. Everyone's the main character of their own path and
character of their own path and timeline. And it's the people who we
timeline. And it's the people who we interact with and pay attention to and
interact with and pay attention to and um are in some way connected to us that
um are in some way connected to us that are those reflections.
are those reflections. I've always asked myself that like and
I've always asked myself that like and and I'm curious to hear your thoughts on
and I'm curious to hear your thoughts on it of why do you feel the creator would
it of why do you feel the creator would have it that way to make everyone have
have it that way to make everyone have their own main character energy in their
their own main character energy in their own game and bring that main story back
own game and bring that main story back to source wherever we go after this this
to source wherever we go after this this lifetime. Why would the creator create
lifetime. Why would the creator create it in that way? If that makes sense.
it in that way? If that makes sense. >> Everything you say makes sense.
>> Brain farting out here. It's the full moon, you know, like
moon, you know, like >> we're speaking full moon. So, um,
>> we're speaking full moon. So, um, everything is a reference point. And,
everything is a reference point. And, you know, to us, we value, you know,
you know, to us, we value, you know, safety, security. So and that's fine. So
safety, security. So and that's fine. So we value things it imagine the real
we value things it imagine the real currency of the eternal is reference
currency of the eternal is reference points.
points. So rather than necessarily like cuz cuz
So rather than necessarily like cuz cuz source doesn't care about a car. So
source doesn't care about a car. So source doesn't need those things. man
source doesn't need those things. man would source love to see itself in the
would source love to see itself in the reference point of a main character who
reference point of a main character who who is just getting a new car and
who is just getting a new car and they're excited about that
they're excited about that or whatever it is or who just you know
or whatever it is or who just you know we could bring it Shakespeare if it's a
we could bring it Shakespeare if it's a car but you know it could be like wow
car but you know it could be like wow some sort of I love about Shakespeare
some sort of I love about Shakespeare all of the different story lines they
all of the different story lines they were so convoluted
were so convoluted but they made sense because they were
but they made sense because they were all speaking to the core parts of our
all speaking to the core parts of our human experience. And that's why they
human experience. And that's why they were so convoluted. They were always
were so convoluted. They were always like, "Wait, what?" Um because that's
like, "Wait, what?" Um because that's life and and that's what source really
life and and that's what source really deeply craves. It's those reference
deeply craves. It's those reference points and even how unique and complex
points and even how unique and complex they are. You know,
they are. You know, >> the peak reference points is what's
>> the peak reference points is what's coming to me are emotions because you
coming to me are emotions because you mentioned that example of like it
mentioned that example of like it doesn't care if you got the car, but it
doesn't care if you got the car, but it likes to see itself in your excitement,
likes to see itself in your excitement, an emotion or yeah, a state of of of
an emotion or yeah, a state of of of peak expression in the human experience,
peak expression in the human experience, which is excitement. But there's also
which is excitement. But there's also sadness. There's also grief. There's
sadness. There's also grief. There's also joy. Let me check in with my inside
also joy. Let me check in with my inside out. Uh what other emotions are out
out. Uh what other emotions are out there? Uh nostalgia.
there? Uh nostalgia. But like what I'm trying to say is what
But like what I'm trying to say is what do those human emotions do for the
do those human emotions do for the creator and why it likes to see itself
creator and why it likes to see itself in because I know that those that have
in because I know that those that have connected with extraterrestrial beings
connected with extraterrestrial beings say that they don't necessarily have the
say that they don't necessarily have the same emotional capabilities that we do
same emotional capabilities that we do as humans. So I'm wondering what the
as humans. So I'm wondering what the uniqueness is there for the creator and
uniqueness is there for the creator and its relationship with us and to us.
its relationship with us and to us. Yeah, it's for our folly.
Yeah, it's for our folly. Humans are um quite human. We um I don't
Humans are um quite human. We um I don't know if you've noticed this, but humans
know if you've noticed this, but humans are hilarious.
are hilarious. Like hilarious.
Like hilarious. There's there's many things
There's there's many things if I wanted to be really critical right
if I wanted to be really critical right now of humanity that I have a list
now of humanity that I have a list I have a list of demands
I have a list of demands >> but
>> but the list
the list >> yeah but I also have a list of of
>> yeah but I also have a list of of positives and the list of positives on
positives and the list of positives on the on the top is I am so impressed with
the on the top is I am so impressed with how funny humans are. We are so
how funny humans are. We are so creatively funny
creatively funny and so
and so >> or try to be. Yeah, we're trying to be
>> or try to be. Yeah, we're trying to be but like we're able to laugh at the how
but like we're able to laugh at the how how futile we are but all these
how futile we are but all these different ways of how futile and so it's
different ways of how futile and so it's like folly like we're constantly able to
like folly like we're constantly able to fall on our sword which is very
fall on our sword which is very vulnerable. It's very vulnerable to I I
vulnerable. It's very vulnerable to I I tried to convey this inside my video on
tried to convey this inside my video on the sacred clown.
the sacred clown. um in there I felt like cuz for me my
um in there I felt like cuz for me my for me some of the topics I cover I go
for me some of the topics I cover I go like I I really care about and I want to
like I I really care about and I want to present and so in that I had presented
present and so in that I had presented the Hyoka Impath the sacred clown and I
the Hyoka Impath the sacred clown and I was like you have to fall on your sword
was like you have to fall on your sword this episode if you don't you will not
this episode if you don't you will not do this episode justice and so I made a
do this episode justice and so I made a joke in there about something that was
joke in there about something that was you know quite vulnerable it was like
you know quite vulnerable it was like yeah humans have to go to a bathroom We
yeah humans have to go to a bathroom We we had to like get over that and we
we had to like get over that and we never, you know, like I pretended that
never, you know, like I pretended that everyone had this problem but not me
everyone had this problem but not me when I was the one who had the problem.
when I was the one who had the problem. And so, but that's falling on your
And so, but that's falling on your sword. And what I'm so impressed with is
sword. And what I'm so impressed with is how much humans can be vulnerable enough
how much humans can be vulnerable enough for the joke, for the punchline. And so
for the joke, for the punchline. And so I just like I think that that's brave. I
I just like I think that that's brave. I think that that's hilarious. I think
think that that's hilarious. I think that's the added factor that Jennaqua
that's the added factor that Jennaqua that brings up amusement because what is
that brings up amusement because what is amusement to me when I was making that
amusement to me when I was making that sacred clown episode I had downloaded
sacred clown episode I had downloaded that amusement actually is all of the
that amusement actually is all of the states of consciousness meeting
states of consciousness meeting we don't really think of why we find
we don't really think of why we find something funny but that it's because
something funny but that it's because the lower levels of consciousness and
the lower levels of consciousness and the higher all of that bandwidth are
the higher all of that bandwidth are presented and what we get from that uh
presented and what we get from that uh culmination is like what arises as
culmination is like what arises as amusement.
amusement. And so it's very vulnerable
And so it's very vulnerable to be in a state of so aware of your
to be in a state of so aware of your futility
futility while also keeping like a higher vantage
while also keeping like a higher vantage point or a higher understanding. And so
point or a higher understanding. And so um because of that I I think that's why
um because of that I I think that's why the paradox is is that it's funnier the
the paradox is is that it's funnier the more that it's vulnerable or truthful.
more that it's vulnerable or truthful. >> It also explains a lot of plant medicine
>> It also explains a lot of plant medicine journeys and experiences because like at
journeys and experiences because like at the end of those all you can do is just
the end of those all you can do is just laugh hysterically at your existence
laugh hysterically at your existence because you just saw a glimpse of a lot
because you just saw a glimpse of a lot of reality that you didn't perceive
of reality that you didn't perceive before and then all of a sudden you're
before and then all of a sudden you're back and you're human and you fart and
back and you're human and you fart and you do all these things and you're like
you do all these things and you're like what is going on?
what is going on? >> Yeah. Um anyway on another note we
>> Yeah. Um anyway on another note we talked uh about a year ago and I asked
talked uh about a year ago and I asked you sort of what you felt humanity was
you sort of what you felt humanity was learning uh in that year and you told me
learning uh in that year and you told me that we're learning how to use
that we're learning how to use technology responsibly.
technology responsibly. Obviously in a year our technological
Obviously in a year our technological expansion with especially AI has
expansion with especially AI has been exponential been increased
been exponential been increased tremendously. So, where do you feel we
tremendously. So, where do you feel we are at with that now? Uh, especially
are at with that now? Uh, especially going into 2026, a new year. I feel like
going into 2026, a new year. I feel like these episodes will also be time markers
these episodes will also be time markers for where was humanity back then when
for where was humanity back then when they were doing that stuff. But, um,
they were doing that stuff. But, um, how do you perceive where we're at with
how do you perceive where we're at with using technology responsibly?
using technology responsibly? >> Um, yeah, I really hope this ages well.
>> Um, yeah, I really hope this ages well. Um, I think it's I think it's going to
Um, I think it's I think it's going to go in the timelines. So I think that the
go in the timelines. So I think that the higher timelines, the higher frequency
higher timelines, the higher frequency creations are going to create AI more
creations are going to create AI more responsibly, more heart-c centered, and
responsibly, more heart-c centered, and that the lower timelines are going to
that the lower timelines are going to repeat
repeat the human karma, which is abusing and
the human karma, which is abusing and infusing technology with service to
infusing technology with service to self.
self. Um,
Um, or even just kind of like because I
or even just kind of like because I don't want to make it sound like
don't want to make it sound like we invented
we invented these technologies.
these technologies. Instead, it's more like our own
Instead, it's more like our own relationship and our own connection to
relationship and our own connection to them. Are we infusing this ancient
them. Are we infusing this ancient knowledge? AI is ancient. Are we
knowledge? AI is ancient. Are we infusing this ancient tech with the same
infusing this ancient tech with the same karma of service to self or abuse of
karma of service to self or abuse of power? That's another way of saying
power? That's another way of saying service to self is abusing power. Or are
service to self is abusing power. Or are we going to infuse this technology
we going to infuse this technology through more of the organic timelines or
through more of the organic timelines or organic ascension timelines? And that
organic ascension timelines? And that would be where the technology is infused
would be where the technology is infused with our intention and our intention is
with our intention and our intention is coming from for the well-being of all
coming from for the well-being of all and for the well-being of Gaia the
and for the well-being of Gaia the planet and for the well-being of all
planet and for the well-being of all beings on it, all creatures on it. So
beings on it, all creatures on it. So really having that higher perception
really having that higher perception once we start infusing everything with
once we start infusing everything with like oh I'm not just thinking about
like oh I'm not just thinking about myself or oh I'm not even just thinking
myself or oh I'm not even just thinking about
about my group oh I'm not just even thinking
my group oh I'm not just even thinking about humans but start really infusing
about humans but start really infusing technology with for the well-being of
technology with for the well-being of all for the planet for and then get from
all for the planet for and then get from there you know going on but that's how
there you know going on but that's how we'll be able to really choose because
we'll be able to really choose because both timelines and there's more than
both timelines and there's more than one, but I'm just making them sound, you
one, but I'm just making them sound, you know, for the sake of ease. I'm making
know, for the sake of ease. I'm making them sound like two options, two
them sound like two options, two timelines. The lower timeline will
timelines. The lower timeline will continue the karmic cycle of abusing
continue the karmic cycle of abusing technology and abusing power. And the
technology and abusing power. And the higher timelines are going to actually
higher timelines are going to actually incorporate and infuse technology and AI
incorporate and infuse technology and AI with that organic and heart-c centered
with that organic and heart-c centered intention and willpower for the
intention and willpower for the well-being of all.
well-being of all. when it comes to because you mentioned
when it comes to because you mentioned AI is ancient. Um, going back to those
AI is ancient. Um, going back to those mystery schools back in ancient Kem,
mystery schools back in ancient Kem, Atlantis,
Atlantis, the real ancient civilizations.
the real ancient civilizations. Do you in a way know or remember how
Do you in a way know or remember how they would utilize technology for their
they would utilize technology for their spiritual initiations
spiritual initiations or would they even like bring those two
or would they even like bring those two together at all or they had you know
together at all or they had you know their technology here and that separate
their technology here and that separate over there? Um do you how do you
over there? Um do you how do you perceive how that worked in a sense?
perceive how that worked in a sense? Yeah. So there was technologies but we
Yeah. So there was technologies but we actually had a stronger spiritual
actually had a stronger spiritual connection. So we were aware of our own
connection. So we were aware of our own inner technologies.
inner technologies. Um an outer technology from that time
Um an outer technology from that time period was the ankh. The ankh was
period was the ankh. The ankh was actually an organic technology.
actually an organic technology. >> Organic.
>> Organic. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> So because Okay. So the ankh is the
>> So because Okay. So the ankh is the representation of masculine and feminine
representation of masculine and feminine energies. The the cross is a distortion
energies. The the cross is a distortion of the enh. The cross was purposely
of the enh. The cross was purposely distort distorted to create dissection
distort distorted to create dissection of the mind and heart and to lock us
of the mind and heart and to lock us into the thirddimensional mind.
into the thirddimensional mind. The the ankh actually the the circular
The the ankh actually the the circular part of it represents the feminine womb.
part of it represents the feminine womb. And so it was organic technology that
And so it was organic technology that helped the person actually with many
helped the person actually with many things depending on what it was and and
things depending on what it was and and it was soundbased. So a lot of the
it was soundbased. So a lot of the technologies which were now
technologies which were now I'm not saying to the degree of the past
I'm not saying to the degree of the past but we are now like learning just like
but we are now like learning just like not at the same level yet is like sound
not at the same level yet is like sound light these are organic technologies.
light these are organic technologies. M
M >> um water water is a very powerful even
>> um water water is a very powerful even fire and it's higher forms of light
fire and it's higher forms of light which is yeah so I said light again so
which is yeah so I said light again so those are all organic technologies
those are all organic technologies there's even things beyond that but so
there's even things beyond that but so the anka is one of the external
the anka is one of the external technologies of that time the inner
technologies of that time the inner would be um
would be um like our body our body is literally
like our body our body is literally technology
technology and so because of that our body can do a
and so because of that our body can do a lot of the things that we would need
lot of the things that we would need technology to do, but we don't need
technology to do, but we don't need technology to do that. And so, organic
technology to do that. And so, organic technologies moving forward or organic
technologies moving forward or organic AI, all of that stuff. Um, we can't ever
AI, all of that stuff. Um, we can't ever just
just when we look back in the past,
when we look back in the past, we can change things at a higher density
we can change things at a higher density or at a higher dimension. But here right
or at a higher dimension. But here right now in this form, we always have to
now in this form, we always have to incorporate whatever happened in the
incorporate whatever happened in the past. So we can't be anti- AI or
past. So we can't be anti- AI or anti-technology at the moment because
anti-technology at the moment because that happened. So we're going like
that happened. So we're going like against the will. What we can do is
against the will. What we can do is curve it, alchemize it, become more
curve it, alchemize it, become more conscious, become more aware, aware. We
conscious, become more aware, aware. We can transmute it. So we transmute it and
can transmute it. So we transmute it and then that's how we're literally becoming
then that's how we're literally becoming the alchemist of using these
the alchemist of using these technologies in a service to all way.
technologies in a service to all way. But what you'll also see is that they
But what you'll also see is that they vastly differ from the lower timelines.
vastly differ from the lower timelines. The lower timelines are dependent on AI
The lower timelines are dependent on AI and technology and eventually they will
and technology and eventually they will even merge into cyborgs. They won't even
even merge into cyborgs. They won't even become human anymore. They will lose
become human anymore. They will lose their the right of passage of being a
their the right of passage of being a human. The higher timelines are simply
human. The higher timelines are simply just having technology be an external
just having technology be an external extension
extension of their balance. Like it it will it
of their balance. Like it it will it will it will help them. It will it will
will it will help them. It will it will it will be done in a way to where it's
it will be done in a way to where it's so harmonious. It will help us evolve.
so harmonious. It will help us evolve. I had a almost two-hour conversation
I had a almost two-hour conversation yesterday with an expert on plasma
yesterday with an expert on plasma and she's expanding the definition of
and she's expanding the definition of plasma beyond just the scientific
plasma beyond just the scientific definition that we have for it, equating
definition that we have for it, equating it to this field almost like what the
it to this field almost like what the ancients would call the key or theqi or
ancients would call the key or theqi or the prana, the ether. And I know ether
the prana, the ether. And I know ether is very tied to alchemy. And I wanted to
is very tied to alchemy. And I wanted to understand if in your perspective
understand if in your perspective that I guess fourth state of matter as
that I guess fourth state of matter as the scientists would call it is part of
the scientists would call it is part of the organic tech that we're going to see
the organic tech that we're going to see in the future and how that might relate
in the future and how that might relate to ether as the alchemists knew it back
to ether as the alchemists knew it back in the day.
in the day. >> Absolutely. So
>> Absolutely. So the alchemists knew it as ether but also
the alchemists knew it as ether but also be it's like um so what plasma is and
be it's like um so what plasma is and now this is like from an esoteric sense
now this is like from an esoteric sense not however
not however um science will tell you this but from
um science will tell you this but from an esoteric sense plasma could be looked
an esoteric sense plasma could be looked at as the substrat.
at as the substrat. So it's a substrat
So it's a substrat of spirit.
of spirit. So in in alchemy or just you know in
So in in alchemy or just you know in innostic
innostic thought alchemy alchemical thought I'll
thought alchemy alchemical thought I'll just say western esoterica
just say western esoterica what you have is like this spiritual
what you have is like this spiritual light
light and this spiritual light you could call
and this spiritual light you could call the first substance to create from
the first substance to create from that first substance of spiritual light
that first substance of spiritual light to create from. They call that many
to create from. They call that many different names. The the more important
different names. The the more important something is, the more names it has. But
something is, the more names it has. But this the this first um spiritual light
this the this first um spiritual light then goes into a form that now we can
then goes into a form that now we can turn into like a universe and that would
turn into like a universe and that would be plasma. So plasma is like the
be plasma. So plasma is like the primordial substrat of spirit.
primordial substrat of spirit. It's how to create
It's how to create it's how to create things into matter.
it's how to create things into matter. And what would be like above that is
And what would be like above that is that first spiritual light that I was
that first spiritual light that I was talking about that then goes down in
talking about that then goes down in density. It would be plasma then goes
density. It would be plasma then goes down and then you have the densities
down and then you have the densities until you get into solid form. Um what
until you get into solid form. Um what was the question?
was the question? >> Yeah. I mean, it's almost like a a
>> Yeah. I mean, it's almost like a a futuristic view of what would happen
futuristic view of what would happen when
when humanity at large chooses a timeline
humanity at large chooses a timeline where we know and know how to utilize
where we know and know how to utilize this prima materia, this ether energy
this prima materia, this ether energy into then building our you call them I
into then building our you call them I think it's like new earth systems or a
think it's like new earth systems or a lot of people are calling them nowadays.
lot of people are calling them nowadays. um but almost taking a futuristic lens
um but almost taking a futuristic lens of what would happen and and almost
of what would happen and and almost imagine those realities because uh
imagine those realities because uh they're not so far away but they're also
they're not so far away but they're also we're not there yet. And I think
we're not there yet. And I think bridging that is a is a really powerful
bridging that is a is a really powerful way to to imagine these realities and
way to to imagine these realities and inspire the builders and the architects
inspire the builders and the architects to to imagine new realities.
to to imagine new realities. >> Oh, absolutely. So yeah like with ether
>> Oh, absolutely. So yeah like with ether that's how we will be able to create
that's how we will be able to create more you know like zero point energy.
more you know like zero point energy. >> Yeah
>> Yeah >> that's that's ether that's just another
>> that's that's ether that's just another term for ether. So the more we become
term for ether. So the more we become aware of that like that is a perfect
aware of that like that is a perfect example of new earth technology. It's
example of new earth technology. It's harnessing the ether. And we can start
harnessing the ether. And we can start doing that simply by making sure that we
doing that simply by making sure that we get some of the first morning sunlight.
get some of the first morning sunlight. And I think that that's popular now for
And I think that that's popular now for people to say in um the biohacking
people to say in um the biohacking >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> uh field now that they're saying that
>> uh field now that they're saying that that's actually being able to
that's actually being able to not just help our body with syncing up
not just help our body with syncing up to the circadian rhythm and our
to the circadian rhythm and our endocrine system. That's literally at a
endocrine system. That's literally at a spiritual level helping us bring in more
spiritual level helping us bring in more ether and creating more coherence in our
ether and creating more coherence in our field on its own.
field on its own. I asked you last time about the
I asked you last time about the activation of our light body and you
activation of our light body and you told me that you were very impressed
told me that you were very impressed that the evolutionary leap that's been
that the evolutionary leap that's been going on for the last 2 years and a half
going on for the last 2 years and a half is like more accelerated than we could
is like more accelerated than we could have anticipated.
have anticipated. So I guess uh an update to that would be
So I guess uh an update to that would be where are we in those activations of our
where are we in those activations of our light body and what does that really
light body and what does that really mean for our evolution as a human race
mean for our evolution as a human race as a species?
as a species? >> Yeah. So it it jumped again really big
>> Yeah. So it it jumped again really big this year.
this year. So it it's it's I you know I I think by
So it it's it's I you know I I think by 2030 we would even be just really a
2030 we would even be just really a completely different human the way that
completely different human the way that we operate. We will be far more
we operate. We will be far more telepathic. We'll be far more in
telepathic. We'll be far more in coherence, even more effortlessly in
coherence, even more effortlessly in coherence. Right now, what we're seeing
coherence. Right now, what we're seeing is different stages of the alchemical
is different stages of the alchemical process, but they're all
process, but they're all pretty kind of still impressive where
pretty kind of still impressive where they are, at least for me when I'm
they are, at least for me when I'm viewing it, because people who are in
viewing it, because people who are in the state of disillusionment,
the state of disillusionment, um, when they're going through that
um, when they're going through that alchemical stage of disillusionment,
alchemical stage of disillusionment, what I see is far less resistance. So,
what I see is far less resistance. So, people can move through things quicker
people can move through things quicker into a different stage of their own
into a different stage of their own evolution. for people who are not
evolution. for people who are not necessarily needing strong lessons in
necessarily needing strong lessons in disillusion but maybe are now like you
disillusion but maybe are now like you said like activating their light body
said like activating their light body that's happening from last year when we
that's happening from last year when we spoke even at a quicker rate and so I
spoke even at a quicker rate and so I just see the timelines actually getting
just see the timelines actually getting kind of like in an accelerated mode and
kind of like in an accelerated mode and then that's why we're feeling such
then that's why we're feeling such intense energies that sometimes even
intense energies that sometimes even feel ungrounding but it doesn't like
feel ungrounding but it doesn't like necessarily necessarily mean in a
necessarily necessarily mean in a negative way. It could be, but it just
negative way. It could be, but it just feels like really ungrounded. It's
feels like really ungrounded. It's because of how much of the energies and
because of how much of the energies and the codes of remembering that we're
the codes of remembering that we're getting. And so those codes of
getting. And so those codes of remembrance
remembrance um are really what's allowing us to help
um are really what's allowing us to help form our light body
form our light body uh at a faster rate as well. But then
uh at a faster rate as well. But then when we bring our intention into that
when we bring our intention into that and we start going into the organic
and we start going into the organic world, you know, because like
world, you know, because like dimensions are something funny because
dimensions are something funny because there's many different definitions for
there's many different definitions for them and they mean more than one thing.
them and they mean more than one thing. But really, if you think about it, the
But really, if you think about it, the more we get a bunch of electrical inputs
more we get a bunch of electrical inputs and the more we're indoors and the more
and the more we're indoors and the more that we're all these things, that will
that we're all these things, that will literally put our consciousness, our
literally put our consciousness, our consciousness will entrain into that
consciousness will entrain into that frequency and we will be in a completely
frequency and we will be in a completely different dimension. Therefore, if we
different dimension. Therefore, if we just go outside, we get first morning
just go outside, we get first morning sunlight,
sunlight, we're in nature
we're in nature and that's bringing even to a person's
and that's bringing even to a person's own timeline or their own experience a
own timeline or their own experience a completely different realm and their
completely different realm and their consciousness is in training with more
consciousness is in training with more organic sources of energy and creative
organic sources of energy and creative power. So
power. So because of that I like the light body I
because of that I like the light body I see actually very active in a lot of
see actually very active in a lot of people which is interesting because
people which is interesting because when I was learning about the light body
when I was learning about the light body it was something that you don't go in
it was something that you don't go in and out of you actually like once you go
and out of you actually like once you go into the light body you leave this
into the light body you leave this reality like it's a it's a basically
reality like it's a it's a basically your ascension vehicle. It's like the
your ascension vehicle. It's like the light body takes over from there. And
light body takes over from there. And then even in ancient traditions, you
then even in ancient traditions, you know, the there was the rainbow body and
know, the there was the rainbow body and the rainbow body all you would see left
the rainbow body all you would see left after like a master was meditating to
after like a master was meditating to the point where they levitate and then
the point where they levitate and then they just like disintegrate. So all you
they just like disintegrate. So all you see left is like the remains of their
see left is like the remains of their body, but they had transcended. They had
body, but they had transcended. They had gone into the rainbow body, which was
gone into the rainbow body, which was another term for the light body. So the
another term for the light body. So the light body itself is this interesting
light body itself is this interesting concept because it's not something where
concept because it's not something where it's like, yeah, you got your light body
it's like, yeah, you got your light body activated and then but I am still seeing
activated and then but I am still seeing enough luminous
enough luminous in the person's energy field to where it
in the person's energy field to where it it's like I'm reconciling worlds here
it's like I'm reconciling worlds here with concepts. I the light body is
with concepts. I the light body is something that at this point I feel like
something that at this point I feel like it could be turned on. It could be
it could be turned on. It could be activated to a degree. And so I would
activated to a degree. And so I would feel like it's in stages. And so a
feel like it's in stages. And so a person's light body doesn't mean that
person's light body doesn't mean that it's like final like oh it's my light
it's like final like oh it's my light body like there could come a time when
body like there could come a time when that light body is literally because you
that light body is literally because you don't leave to the next density your
don't leave to the next density your light body does
light body does after you've gone through the alchemical
after you've gone through the alchemical process to its completion here and so
process to its completion here and so I feel like we're going to live in an
I feel like we're going to live in an enlightened state
enlightened state and that enlightened state is going to
and that enlightened state is going to be not fully physical the way that we
be not fully physical the way that we know physical icality and the way we are
know physical icality and the way we are but not fully of such a high
but not fully of such a high energy that it does not vibrate into
energy that it does not vibrate into solid solid form at all. It's going to
solid solid form at all. It's going to be like this in between which is very
be like this in between which is very forth density. Hm.
forth density. Hm. A a lot of people are calling that
A a lot of people are calling that transition from homo sapien into homol
transition from homo sapien into homol luminous which is interesting you use
luminous which is interesting you use that term to describe it and in the
that term to describe it and in the energy field and we're becoming more
energy field and we're becoming more lighter density in that way. Um when it
lighter density in that way. Um when it comes to timelines because you're the
comes to timelines because you're the timeline chick.
timeline chick. >> Wow.
What would happen? I mean, obviously it would be incredible if
would be incredible if we all just activated that light body.
we all just activated that light body. We've been doing that spiritual work and
We've been doing that spiritual work and we become these homaluminous beings
we become these homaluminous beings living in a in a higher dimension. Um,
living in a in a higher dimension. Um, but what about those that maybe are in
but what about those that maybe are in resistance to that to that field and to
resistance to that to that field and to to that that's unfolding?
to that that's unfolding? Is the evolution inevitable?
Is the evolution inevitable? Can a certain section of a species
Can a certain section of a species resist the evolution?
resist the evolution? I'm really curious of how that works.
I'm really curious of how that works. Obviously, this gets into like biology
Obviously, this gets into like biology and science and evolutionary biology,
and science and evolutionary biology, and I'm not an expert in that, and I'm
and I'm not an expert in that, and I'm just the podcast dude.
just the podcast dude. You're the timeline chick, but we're
You're the timeline chick, but we're trying to make sense of all this.
trying to make sense of all this. >> Well, I took biology in
>> Well, I took biology in >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> And I left after day four.
>> And I left after day four. I mean, I know all this. Just kidding.
I mean, I know all this. Just kidding. Um so um yeah the the idea of evolution
Um so um yeah the the idea of evolution already implies not everyone and I know
already implies not everyone and I know that that sounds savage but like that
that that sounds savage but like that this is esoterica esoterica is savage.
this is esoterica esoterica is savage. So that's what evolution is by any
So that's what evolution is by any definition. There was never like I mean
definition. There was never like I mean groups you know like the Mayans like
groups you know like the Mayans like they had evolved together but like they
they had evolved together but like they were still just a group of humanity. So
were still just a group of humanity. So evolution is is done through
evolution is is done through um it it's it's it's
um it it's it's it's almost unheard of that everything
almost unheard of that everything evolves from a thing. Is it impossible?
evolves from a thing. Is it impossible? No. I I'm when when I'm saying this, I
No. I I'm when when I'm saying this, I don't I don't need
don't I don't need everyone to I I don't I don't need
everyone to I I don't I don't need everyone to evolve and I don't need
everyone to evolve and I don't need everyone to not evolve. Like I I don't
everyone to not evolve. Like I I don't need to say this in a way where I'm
need to say this in a way where I'm invested. If everyone invol evolves,
invested. If everyone invol evolves, great, cuz I would love that. But how
great, cuz I would love that. But how evolution goes is that some people
evolution goes is that some people evolve and that's how
evolve and that's how things evolve. It's because some did.
things evolve. It's because some did. So, some choose with their free will to
So, some choose with their free will to become conscious, to go through the
become conscious, to go through the rights of passage, to embody whatever
rights of passage, to embody whatever that higher frequency is, you know, and
that higher frequency is, you know, and that's known as an ego death. And I know
that's known as an ego death. And I know that we kind of have resistance to that
that we kind of have resistance to that term ego death in this age simply
term ego death in this age simply because we've abused it. We have abused
because we've abused it. We have abused the term ego death from past ages. We
the term ego death from past ages. We made it mean all sorts of things like we
made it mean all sorts of things like we needed to avoid our humanity. We needed
needed to avoid our humanity. We needed to avoid our emotions and bypass. But
to avoid our emotions and bypass. But actually, you know, I don't know a
actually, you know, I don't know a better term for it. It's a it's a ego
better term for it. It's a it's a ego death. When you evolve, you have to give
death. When you evolve, you have to give up the level of consciousness you are
up the level of consciousness you are operating for operating on and go to a
operating for operating on and go to a higher level of consciousness. So not
higher level of consciousness. So not everyone wants to do that
everyone wants to do that and because of that not everyone will
and because of that not everyone will evolve.
evolve. But if everyone does choose to do that,
But if everyone does choose to do that, great. More power to them.
>> I don't know if they got to this on day four of the biology class, but if I
four of the biology class, but if I remember correctly, there was some
remember correctly, there was some research done, guys. Do your own
research done, guys. Do your own research. I'm just speaking out loud
research. I'm just speaking out loud here where the previous I guess version
here where the previous I guess version of the homo sapien or even like the
of the homo sapien or even like the Neanderthalss were still around while
Neanderthalss were still around while the homo sapiion was around and that
the homo sapiion was around and that they did have interaction. Um, and
they did have interaction. Um, and there's also movies like the X-Men where
there's also movies like the X-Men where you have the mutants living alongside
you have the mutants living alongside the humans at the time and they were in
the humans at the time and they were in war with each other for a while and they
war with each other for a while and they finally learned how to live amongst each
finally learned how to live amongst each other and in harmony. So that could be I
other and in harmony. So that could be I don't know a a potential of you know but
don't know a a potential of you know but when it comes to the children that are
when it comes to the children that are being born right now how are you
being born right now how are you perceiving the ones cuz I think you said
perceiving the ones cuz I think you said in the last podcast you know you look at
in the last podcast you know you look at a baby's eyes nowadays and it's like
a baby's eyes nowadays and it's like incredible. It's like wow like a
incredible. It's like wow like a breathtaking experience because of the
breathtaking experience because of the energy they're holding.
energy they're holding. >> Yeah. So the children that are coming in
>> Yeah. So the children that are coming in are already coming in with so much
are already coming in with so much activated without needing to activate
activated without needing to activate it. And so they're really representing
it. And so they're really representing like the telepathic human. Like the
like the telepathic human. Like the things that we're getting upgrades for,
things that we're getting upgrades for, they're they're coming in and they're
they're they're coming in and they're experiencing they're still fine-tuning.
experiencing they're still fine-tuning. There's still a lot of fine-tuning, but
There's still a lot of fine-tuning, but they're already coming in with one thing
they're already coming in with one thing very enhanced. And what you'll notice is
very enhanced. And what you'll notice is that that's usually what happens with an
that that's usually what happens with an upgrade there. It doesn't mean like, oh,
upgrade there. It doesn't mean like, oh, everything's worked out perfectly.
everything's worked out perfectly. Instead, it'll be like some some faculty
Instead, it'll be like some some faculty or ability. That is extraordinarily
or ability. That is extraordinarily enhanced even sometimes to the detriment
enhanced even sometimes to the detriment of the other abilities just because this
of the other abilities just because this one thing is the point to enhance and to
one thing is the point to enhance and to bring forward until that like integrates
bring forward until that like integrates into the collective.
into the collective. And so, yeah. And I said I said that and
And so, yeah. And I said I said that and then I found out after I gave my 2025
then I found out after I gave my 2025 annual energy update. I said telepathy.
annual energy update. I said telepathy. And then I found out because people were
And then I found out because people were leaving comments about the telepathy
leaving comments about the telepathy tapes. I did not know what that was. And
tapes. I did not know what that was. And so I was like, "Oh, okay. Well, I I hope
so I was like, "Oh, okay. Well, I I hope we still get the upgrades. I hope it
we still get the upgrades. I hope it didn't go to all the kids."
didn't go to all the kids." No, I I I
No, I I I >> all our kids just reading our minds now
>> all our kids just reading our minds now and we're like on our phones like trying
and we're like on our phones like trying to figure out what chatt what what are
to figure out what chatt what what are they saying?
>> Totally. So yeah, we're that's actually an organic technology telepathy.
an organic technology telepathy. So these are we have so much organic
So these are we have so much organic technology within us coming online
technology within us coming online >> and and I'm I'm seeing it real time.
>> and and I'm I'm seeing it real time. I've I I told you last year I was in
I've I I told you last year I was in Egypt and I saw a lot of people on that
Egypt and I saw a lot of people on that trip just immediately get in real time
trip just immediately get in real time upgrades and remembrances. I think the
upgrades and remembrances. I think the keyword is remembrance because it's not
keyword is remembrance because it's not like we're downloading a new iOS. It's a
like we're downloading a new iOS. It's a lot of it is ancient. A lot of it has
lot of it is ancient. A lot of it has just been stored there. And if we are
just been stored there. And if we are also thinning the veil to other
also thinning the veil to other lifetimes of mastery, then it would make
lifetimes of mastery, then it would make sense that these upgrades can happen on
sense that these upgrades can happen on a whim and super spontaneous. One day
a whim and super spontaneous. One day you wake up like Richard Rudd from the
you wake up like Richard Rudd from the Jens and he was 3 days in a samati state
Jens and he was 3 days in a samati state and then
and then birth the jinkies out of himself with
birth the jinkies out of himself with that download he had that those three
that download he had that those three days. So, I mean, right now it's
days. So, I mean, right now it's anything is possible at this point. I'm
anything is possible at this point. I'm I'm super optimistic about it.
I'm super optimistic about it. >> Absolutely. Especially in Egypt because
>> Absolutely. Especially in Egypt because the mystery schools in Egypt, they would
the mystery schools in Egypt, they would go into darkness
go into darkness for like 9 days and that would activate
for like 9 days and that would activate a lot of their psychic abilities.
a lot of their psychic abilities. >> The DMT.
>> The DMT. >> Yeah. Yeah. And then they would go into
>> Yeah. Yeah. And then they would go into Yeah. So they did a bunch of different
Yeah. So they did a bunch of different uh mystery school practices as you know
uh mystery school practices as you know that's why people go to Egypt. It's to
that's why people go to Egypt. It's to get those activations from what was
get those activations from what was taking place there and what what the
taking place there and what what the energy that that's infused with there in
energy that that's infused with there in Egypt. But it it is all a spiritual
Egypt. But it it is all a spiritual initiation center. And one of the ways
initiation center. And one of the ways that the organic technology or our
that the organic technology or our spiritual insights are coming online uh
spiritual insights are coming online uh for the initiates was through going
for the initiates was through going through darkness for large periods of
through darkness for large periods of times or going through it depends on
times or going through it depends on what initiation but going through silent
what initiation but going through silent retreats.
So being quiet opens your third eye. And that's my cue to end the podcast.
No, sir. I could I could literally talk to you for hours. You're such a wealth
to you for hours. You're such a wealth of knowledge and and you're operating
of knowledge and and you're operating from such a heart center and it's so so
from such a heart center and it's so so refreshing to be in your energy. Um we
refreshing to be in your energy. Um we end every show with a segment called the
end every show with a segment called the final trio uh as we did last time.
final trio uh as we did last time. Before that, where would you send people
Before that, where would you send people to connect with you, with your work,
to connect with you, with your work, with the new series that just came out
with the new series that just came out on Gaia a few weeks ago? Where would you
on Gaia a few weeks ago? Where would you send people to to find all of that?
send people to to find all of that? >> Yeah. So, right now, my passion project
>> Yeah. So, right now, my passion project is mystery teachings on Gaia. So, if you
is mystery teachings on Gaia. So, if you guys would like to go see the first
guys would like to go see the first season, we just got done filming the
season, we just got done filming the second season, and I put heart and soul
second season, and I put heart and soul into both seasons, but I I came up with
into both seasons, but I I came up with the second season from scratch. So,
the second season from scratch. So, they're all topics for each episode that
they're all topics for each episode that are not just powerful activations, but
are not just powerful activations, but they mean a lot to me, and I'm so happy
they mean a lot to me, and I'm so happy that Gaia will, you know, like will be
that Gaia will, you know, like will be able to produce them. So, I would
able to produce them. So, I would definitely say first and foremost to go
definitely say first and foremost to go check out mystery teachings on Gaia. And
check out mystery teachings on Gaia. And then after that, you could just go to my
then after that, you could just go to my website, the alchemist.com community.
website, the alchemist.com community. There I have all my socials and you
There I have all my socials and you could sign up for my newsletter.
could sign up for my newsletter. >> Beautiful. We'll link everything in the
>> Beautiful. We'll link everything in the show notes. Uh I binged watched the
show notes. Uh I binged watched the first season and it's really powerful. A
first season and it's really powerful. A lot of like condensed packed information
lot of like condensed packed information that I feel like is a transmission, is
that I feel like is a transmission, is an activation. And then I'm excited for
an activation. And then I'm excited for for the second one and I know it means a
for the second one and I know it means a lot to you. So excited for that. Um
lot to you. So excited for that. Um these last three questions are
these last three questions are personalized to the guest so to you. The
personalized to the guest so to you. The first one I had for you is what do you
first one I had for you is what do you wish every soul would remember about why
wish every soul would remember about why they came to earth right now?
they came to earth right now? that they came here to fully just be
that they came here to fully just be their largest expression
their largest expression and that what would you do at the end of
and that what would you do at the end of your life when you turn around and see
your life when you turn around and see yourself right now in this present
yourself right now in this present moment? You wouldn't care about like 90%
moment? You wouldn't care about like 90% of the stuff that you care about and to
of the stuff that you care about and to just follow that elder within you.
just follow that elder within you. >> Follow that elder within you.
>> Follow that elder within you. What teaching from the ancient mystery
What teaching from the ancient mystery schools has become the core of your
schools has become the core of your life? And it has to be different from
life? And it has to be different from the one we started with with the aeros
the one we started with with the aeros because it's like a full circle or it
because it's like a full circle or it can be an expanded version of that
can be an expanded version of that teaching. Um but yeah, which one has
teaching. Um but yeah, which one has become the core of your life?
become the core of your life? >> Natural law. It's become the core of my
>> Natural law. It's become the core of my life because I see how much humanity
life because I see how much humanity needs it for their own sovereignty, for
needs it for their own sovereignty, for our own sovereignty.
>> What is the most sacred thing that you've ever witnessed in another human
you've ever witnessed in another human being?
a singer sing >> when they can just go into
>> when they can just go into first of all the talent of singing is
first of all the talent of singing is beyond me. I'm just like I sing but I'm
beyond me. I'm just like I sing but I'm just I love hearing a singer who is you
just I love hearing a singer who is you know talented naturally at that. Um, I
know talented naturally at that. Um, I am impressed when they're just able to
am impressed when they're just able to go into such a vulnerable nonlinear
go into such a vulnerable nonlinear state like no one's watching and to just
state like no one's watching and to just go straight into singing from their
go straight into singing from their soul.
soul. >> I think it's the only art form that has
>> I think it's the only art form that has had me cry real time from the awe of the
had me cry real time from the awe of the experience. It's like I've cried because
experience. It's like I've cried because of basketball games of course NBA finals
of basketball games of course NBA finals when you know 2008 Lakers Orlando Magic
when you know 2008 Lakers Orlando Magic you know that was a hard time hard rough
you know that was a hard time hard rough time but uh when it comes to art forms
time but uh when it comes to art forms not a lot of art gets me that emotional
not a lot of art gets me that emotional then sing singing as well so I I
then sing singing as well so I I completely resonate I had the experience
completely resonate I had the experience of being inside uh all three pyramids
of being inside uh all three pyramids in one night uh and and we would just do
in one night uh and and we would just do these activations with our voice. And I
these activations with our voice. And I was the only one in that group that
was the only one in that group that couldn't sing. So I would just hum and
couldn't sing. So I would just hum and om. But uh when I would hear a lot of
om. But uh when I would hear a lot of these these people that were on that
these these people that were on that trip just especially in those resonance
trip just especially in those resonance chambers,
chambers, it was the best experience of my life.
it was the best experience of my life. So, uh, any singers, guys, go to Egypt
So, uh, any singers, guys, go to Egypt and sing in those because that's what
and sing in those because that's what they were meant for in in my
they were meant for in in my perspective, like tone and sound and all
perspective, like tone and sound and all these beautiful mystical things. So
these beautiful mystical things. So anyway, Sarah, it's always a pleasure to
anyway, Sarah, it's always a pleasure to dive deep with you and connect and just
dive deep with you and connect and just uh I think we added more of our
uh I think we added more of our personality and humor into this one
personality and humor into this one because we get we got to know each other
because we get we got to know each other quite well on the first conversation and
quite well on the first conversation and I just can't wait to keep going down uh
I just can't wait to keep going down uh these rabbit holes with you and
these rabbit holes with you and exploring consciousness with you. So,
exploring consciousness with you. So, thank you again. And you're the perfect
thank you again. And you're the perfect voice for all of these teachings. And
voice for all of these teachings. And I'm so excited that, you know, it's
I'm so excited that, you know, it's coming through right now. And I get the
coming through right now. And I get the honor to receive that and and listen to
honor to receive that and and listen to you. So, thank you so much for your
you. So, thank you so much for your magic.
magic. >> It's an honor. Thank you.
>> It's an honor. Thank you. [Music]
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Heat. Heat. [Music]
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