This podcast episode challenges conventional health paradigms, arguing that environmental factors like light, water, and magnetism are more critical to human health and well-being than diet and exercise alone, particularly in the context of a changing planetary magnetic field.
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Aloha everybody. My name is John Kemp,
holistic health and fitness coach, and
today on the podcast I interviewed Dr.
Jack Kruse, a neurosurgeon and one of
the leading pioneer voices in the space
of quantum biology and circadian
biology. I first heard about Jack in a
podcast episode he did on Rick Rubin's
podcast the Tetragrammaton with Andrew
Huberman, and it was an incredible episode.
episode.
Really insightful and inspiring for me,
and I've been an avid follower of Jack
ever since,
watching dozens of his podcast episodes
and learning so much from him, and had
the blessing and opportunity to
interview him for you guys today. So, we
covered some of the information in
Jack's three-legged stool. His three
pillars are light, water, and magnetism.
And we talked a little bit about the
backstory, some of the current events
and future implications of those.
And I put a PDF Google Doc in the
comment section in the show notes that
has all of the episodes on YouTube from
Jack's interviews that I've watched, and
then I chronologically ordered them in a
way that I think is appropriate for
anyone that's new to his work or looking
to dive deeper.
You can check out that Google Doc PDF
and just have a nice resource that has a
lot of his content all in one place for you.
you.
And if you guys have any comments,
please drop them below for us, and any
other questions related to this episode
or questions for future episodes that I
can ask Jack next time we sit down
together. Thank you so much for
watching, and I hope you enjoy. Dr.
Jack, thank you so much for taking the
time. Welcome to the show.
>> No problem.
>> So, I just want to start off to set the
scene for you. May 2023,
I'm outside on my front porch
and I'm listening to the Rick Rubin
podcast with you politely handling
Andrew Huberman and you blew my mind on
that podcast. It was It was really
enlightening and someone that's got a
background in health and fitness hearing
someone say fitness and nutrition isn't
the most important thing was one of
those mind [ __ ] where I knew you were
right with my personal journey over the
last decade since 2013. I've been on my
own journey and I've been doing
everything I can to get into nature to
get more sunlight to get off of
technology. Someone running an online
business that's been a wonderful
opportunity and a challenge and so I I
was blessed with the
the opportunity to move to Maui in 2018
from Washington state
and I've been working on getting more
sun, getting more nature, getting off of
tech as much as possible. My intuition's
been driving me in that direction and
then I'd never heard of you before. I
find this podcast. I listen to this
podcast and you I knew you were right.
Everything you were saying
the science is obviously you're a master
in your craft and I am new to a lot of
the information at this time that you
were speaking about but with my
kinesiology degree, I understood enough
of what you were saying and I knew it
was correct. I was like, "Damn, this
guy's [ __ ] right." Like fitness and
nutrition. Like when you gave the
example of people with mitochondrial
diseases not getting well when their
fitness and nutrition is dialed in and
some of the other examples. I mean like
you've got the evidence, man. It's there
and so that was huge
>> I think I think I think the best
evidence though is the stuff that's
staring people right in the face but
they don't even realize it. Uh it's the
space program.
You know, you have to ask yourself a
question. You take somebody who's
fundamentally in the best shape you
possibly could be. Everybody knows
that astronauts, cosmonauts have to be pristine.
pristine.
But yet, when they're up
a week in space, just a week, they lose
20% of their muscle mass.
And they're exercising.
They're and they're all their food is
completely controlled, like a metabolic ward.
ward. Yet,
Yet,
what do we know from probably the best example,
example,
which is Scott Kelly and his brother,
two identical twins, one stayed here,
one went up there, and in 240 days,
one aged 10 years.
That was supposed to be in phenomenal shape.
shape.
So, when you actually see this, and
remember, they had to pull Paul Kelly
out of the capsule because he could not
even move
against the gravity of Earth.
When he comes back,
this should get everybody who believes
it's about diet and exercise
to say, well,
we have a guy that's got a metabolic
ward level
diet. He's doing all the exercise
through a Vasper that NASA has like this
guy's got the best gym in the world, okay?
okay? What?
What?
The environment is different. And what happened?
happened?
Like, I can't give you a better example
of why
um I'm right and they're wrong. And
then, when it gets really crazy,
is then I really flipped the tables
and say, okay, everybody who is
listening to this podcast effectively is
an astronaut that lives in space,
except you're on the tectonic plates and
you don't realize it because non-native
EMF all around us
actually mimics exactly what being in
space is. It has the same exact effect
on astronauts. The only difference is
the dose makes the toxin. Mhm. As on the
Kelly example that happened in 240 days.
In the example of astronauts on Earth
today it takes two to three decades for
the same diseases to show up. In fact
these are the same diseases that also
showed up in King Tut.
Mhm. So
you go back and go, "Wait a minute.
There is no gold gym."
Then there was no
you know, special diet, you know, tied
back to then. Why?
Why?
Why do these things seem to travel
through eons? Like this is not a
question for me
to really answer for you. I think for
your audience
when you sit down and have a discussion
with me, you have to remember I've done
this morbidity and mortality conference
you know, in my head multiple times. I
mean, I didn't believe this when I first
realized it either. Why?
Because I went to medical school. I was
taught that diet and exercise were all
that matters. And I'd love to tell you
that I have uh
the resolving power of being that
curious when I was in training to ask
those questions. But it turned out it it
wasn't the case. It wasn't wasn't the
question I really asked until I was
finished with my training and going
through my own health issue
where I employed what they told me to do
and I actually got worse.
Mhm. So
I I would tell everybody no matter where
you are in this podcast and you're
watching it
uh you need to question everything.
Everything you believe.
And when you find out when you do do
that, you will find out that biophysics
has some very counterintuitive
rabbit holes that you'll go visit.
You'll find out that the environment is
what controls the software that controls
your ultimate outcome. All of you've
been led to believe it's the hardware.
It's the DNA and RNA. It's not true.
It's the software and that's the
mitochondrial programming. That's
actually the epigenetics that Scott
Kelly found out about before DARPA
removed his book
because he wrote about it. He said,
"Look, when I went up to space in 240
days, I came back, I lost 27% of my
muscle mass."
He goes, "But the big thing is I became
hypermethylated and I had histone
problems, so my risk of cancer is huge."
And literally you can't find his book
anymore cuz DARPA took it
uh off the market. Why? Because
the people in power
that are selling you diets, exercise,
supplements, peptides, whatever it is
that you're into today, that's the
Rockefeller paradigm that's built around
the flexionary port.
Uh they want you to keep believing that
story. Why? Because
this is a multi-trillion dollar business
for them.
And when you fundamentally get to that level
level
that's when I think I think when really
most people get to where I'm at, it's
you've tried everything, nothing really
works, and then you go, "Okay, let me
give crazy a try." And then all of a
sudden magically you find out, "Wow, it
really is the environment that matters."
And it's not just in diet and exercise.
It's exactly what happens in addiction,
too. I mean, this is the reason why we
create drug addicts. Why?
All you got to do is put them in a
blue-lit environment, especially get
them to go out at night, and you can
create a drug addict pretty damn
quickly. Um
and the interesting thing is
you can let a drug addict stay with
their heroin, but if you change the
environment they're in,
you'll start to see they stop using
because they don't need it
because the endogenous opioids that your
brain makes out of palm C,
which is, you know, a chromosome on
chromosome number two, magically cleaves
uh beta endorphin, and you make an
endogenous opiate, you don't need it.
And what stimulates that? Well,
sunlight. Oh, how do you like that?
Well, you know, you you come back to the
same story, and you start going
you ask yourself this key question.
What actually really is true that they
tell us? And
that was probably the most important
thing that I said to you, Reuben, on
Rick's podcast.
That nothing is true. 99%
And if you remember from that podcast,
he asked another neurosurgeon that runs
UCSF, called Eddie Chang,
what he thought.
He said 50%. So, you have two guys that
are neurosurgeons,
and for anybody who doesn't know about
us, we're the top of the pyramid in
medicine. We're the smartest guys.
There's only 3,800 of us.
But, it comes down to
you have the smartest people in medical
school telling you that most of what you
learn in medical school is [ __ ]
Well, that should be an eye-opener for
like everybody.
Because if you're not questioning the
paradigm that's being sold to you,
then you're apt to be knocked down by
the sausage grinder your head and into.
And that's really
I think the the key germane point
because everybody's n equals one is
different, you know, like the questions
that people will ask about this disease
versus that disease. Yeah, they're
different, but fundamentally, if they're
tied or I should say tied to
to
the grand unified theory of the software
running the hardware,
the story of actually biophysics in my
opinion, cuz I you know, I've been
accused of making this too hard. You
know, they want me to [ __ ] it down for
people. And I'm like it's really simple
to understand.
The inner mitochondrial membrane is a
piece of territory that goes from NAD to oxygen.
oxygen.
And in between those two fingers is a 30
million volt charge.
If that charge goes down at all,
it results in the ATPase spin rate going
down. What do we know the spin rate is
today we that we didn't know when I
started medical school? 9,000
revolutions per minute.
So, if you think about one spin per
minute versus 9,000, every disease that
you know is in between
those two numbers.
And it turns out the charge on that
membrane is what controls the spin rate.
That's it. That's all you need to know.
And why is this a good thing to understand?
understand?
Because think about the implications of
what I just told you.
That means that if you have
no matter what the disease is, whether
you're Scott Callan you want to get your
27% muscle mass back,
that you can reverse all diseases and
all situations. Okay? That's really what
it means.
Why is that such toxic news for the
Rockefeller paradigm?
They want to make you a drug client for
the rest of your life. They certainly
don't want you to know
that it's actually possible with biophysics
biophysics
to change it. And And this is reflected
in the space program again. Why?
The American space program has chosen
pharma over physics, okay? This Russian
space program has chosen physics over
pharma. And when you actually parse that
out, in my view, the easiest way to
educate people who don't know
about these paradigm-changing kind of
things, start with the space program and
work from there and then realize what
the main difference is.
Rockefeller wants you to believe it's
all about oxygen and the Russians want
you to believe it's all about CO2. If
you start there, then
you start going, "Okay,
why is that the case?" And I I will tell
you, I think it's the most fruitful
um rabbit hole you can go down and I
tell people this
um who I've you know, you know I've done
hundreds of podcasts on these topics,
but what nobody really has ever parsed
out and asked me when I started down
this rabbit hole myself when I was in
the situation like most of the people
watching this are. I want to know what
really moves the needle.
I I translated about $200,000 worth of
Russian physiology
uh after reading Becker's work and after
reading uh a fable by Robin Sharma
called The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari,
I said, "Is this possible? Is what is
what in this book is possible?" And I
found out in the Rockefeller paradigm it
was impossible,
uh but in the Russian paradigm it was.
And I was like, "Okay, I need to go jump
down this rabbit hole and figure out
why ultimately
the environment, the geopolitical
environment, you know, tried to block
the science in space and also Becker. I
mean, our government, DARPA,
ended Becker's career. So, I knew that
the Russian space program and Becker had
to have a link. So, that's why I went to
the extraordinary length to spend a lot
of money 25 years ago
to translate these papers and it turns
out from
that proof of work that I did, I
distilled down a message into two
protocols, the Leptin Prescription and
Cold Thermogenesis Protocol.
Both of those protocols were written in 2005.
2005.
Okay? So, we're 21 years past that now.
So, many of the things that you'll
probably ask me about today, for me,
they really are old hat. Why? Because
I've written
and spoke,
been to conferences, I talk about,
you know, the science that underpins
both of them. The interesting thing I
think about both
is that neither are un- are underpinned
by biochemistry. Both are biophysical protocols.
>> I I love what you've been speaking about
more recently, too. I'd love to talk
about that, but I just
I'm picking up what you're putting down,
and I love it, man. I've I've listened
to dozens of your podcasts. In fact, I
and everything you're speaking about,
I've been just parroting to my clients
and giving them the resources, you know,
Leptin Protocol and such, and sending
them to your site. And I've got a Google
Doc, I'll put it in the show notes for
anybody listening. It's all of the
episodes that I've listened to from
Jack. There's 30-some podcast episodes.
There's 60-plus hours of his
conversations with other people, and I
put them in an order that I think is
most relevant for someone coming in to
start with Jack's work and kind of take
you down the rabbit hole step by step.
Um so, I I was really vocal in 2020, you
know, speaking about what you're saying
about Rockefeller medicine and everything.
everything.
It's obvious at this point, in my
opinion, like you're either on the boat
or you're not. And so,
you know, I wanted to go into this
conversation with the prerequisite
understanding that my followers, my
audience, my community were doing
everything we can to the best of our
ability, to get outside, get in the sun,
ground, and get off tech as much as
possible. And so, I love how you
reference that.
>> Those are all the good things, but now
the next question is that you got to ask yourself,
yourself,
are all those things equivalent in all
places on Earth?
And the answer is they're not. >> Right.
>> Right. >> So,
>> So,
I think that's where
the the next big issue happens. Remember
what Rockefeller Medicine teaches people
that your genetic code trumps your zip
code. I tell you exactly the opposite.
Your zip code trumps your genetic code.
So, then you got to ask yourself, what
about your local environment has changed?
changed?
I don't know. You got And the simple way
for you to do this
is you can go back 25 years, 50 years,
100 years, 200 years.
It I think most people that are alive
today would be wise at least to take
their beliefs back
back
to uh pre-industrial
United States. Why?
Because that's where the robber barons,
which Rockefeller was one,
that's where the game began to change.
And then how things have changed in health,
health,
you know, since that time. The The most
operational time for Americans, specifically,
specifically,
is probably 1940 to now. Why? Because
that's when the biotechnology arm
of the Rockefeller Foundation started to
work in unison with the big pharma arm
after Standard Oil's broken up. And when
you see that synergy and what the real
goal was, it becomes very simple
uh to save your members and your
listeners a lot of time.
The Rockefeller paradigm basically was
an anti-melanin
paradigm. So, how did they do that?
Anything that made the sun toxic was
something they parodied.
Uh they did it through not only
sunscreens, but the big one was they did
it through
uh elevating glyphosate into the food
chain because glyphosate is a melanin uh
competitive inhibitor. So, when you
understand that when you introduce all
of these things, they deuterate your
water table, which ruins the
biochemistry. This is the reason why
biochemistry isn't the level that you
want to understand at. You have to
really understand what deuterium and
water physically do
and what sunlight does to that pair.
And then the big one, which is the new
one that everybody has kind of ignored,
and for good reason because we've always
assumed that the Earth's magnetic field
was consistent 15 nanotesla just about everywhere.
everywhere.
And uh turns out that's no longer true.
And that that has been failing on Earth
since 1859.
Uh you don't have to go back that far on
magnetism. I think you really need to
just go back to December 21st, 2012
because that's when the North Pole
started running from Canada
to Siberia, and I think everybody knows
that now. But what the implications of
that are it's changed the magnetic
footprint in some places on Earth by 66%.
66%.
It's other places it's gotten
almost 300, 400% stronger.
Uh and when you understand that that now
is a variable that you have to add in,
that's the reason why I'm trying to
explain to people that zip code trumps
genetic code. I'm not trying to make
this difficult. I'm trying to make you
understand that light, water, and
magnetism is a very dynamic couple.
Um it was much easier for me prior to
probably 1 year ago
to have these discussions on podcast.
Why? Because we would spend most of the
time talking about light and water and
very little time talking about
magnetism. And you can see since the new
swarm data's come out, since the USGS
stuff has come out, and there's been
such a humongous change since 2012
in magnetic flux.
We now have to start with magnetism
because it turns out even if your light
is really good and your water table's
good, magnetism can [ __ ] those other two
things up pretty bad. And
And
the best place that you can see that today
today
is actually in South America and Africa. Why?
Why?
That's where the phenotype of humans has
been changed the most
by magnetic flux. And
this is the reason why we're seeing now
fit people dropping dead.
Uh it's also the reason why like for
example in Argentina in the last 10
years they have a loss of fertility by 47%
47%
by their own numbers. This actually
comes from Rockefeller numbers. So
So
obviously that spawned the IVF industry
in South America.
But the interesting thing is the drugs
are not working.
So when you understand that leptin
controls fecundity and fertility, you
start going wait a minute, is this
really a biophysics story as well? And
it turns out it is. So the reason I'm
taking you on this little random walk is
not to be
a [ __ ] about it. What I'm trying to
get people to really understand
is that the biophysics really is the
base layer of understanding
health, well-being, and also avoiding
the centralized sausage grinder that is
centralized medicine. And to me, I think
anybody who's interested in health
optimization, that should be top of the
list. And I think you pointed it out,
although you were very covert about it.
Uh COVID, starting in 2020,
actually has gotten more people on my
side of the ledger than the Rockefeller
side. Why?
>> For sure.
>> Because most people know that they've
been lied to over the last 6 years,
but the problem is they don't know how
bad the lie really is and how deep
the gravity well is for those lies.
But even in the last 6 years, I've actually
actually
done podcasts to examine that. Uh
Uh
and I would tell you
it's additive to the effects that you
and I are talking about, you know, right now.
now. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
I agree completely, man. And like the
Danny Jones episode was great. The
rabbit hole is there and, you know, the
people on my side of the fence are the
people that are like, we hear what
you're putting down. We want to Mel
Gibson from the Patriot, you know, I I
love you use Thomas Jefferson as the
example. And so, you know, that was kind
of And your [ __ ] episode with Alexis
recently blew my mind, the magnetism
episode. And like
>> Yeah, that was the one that I decided I
had to do after the guys came down from
Alex Jones and kind of like misrepresented,
misrepresented,
you know, the science. I didn't like I
didn't like the way that was,
you know, sold
and spread on Alex Jones. And then it
was right when Alex Jones got thrown off
of uh
you know, his current platform. He to
his credit, he did have me on and we did
try to have a cogent discussion about
it. I didn't let him inter- interrupt me
too much, but I still think
that the magnetism angle
I think it's I I we have Look, we have
two guys out there. One guy I respect,
the other the I don't. Uh Ben Davidson
and the Ethical Skeptic. They're talking
about these magnetic um, apocalypses.
apocalypses.
I don't think we're in
a magnetic apocalypse. I think we're in
an excursion.
Mhm. There's 500 of them. We've only had five
five
extinction events. So, I think
the mathematics is on our side. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> Ben Davidson
tries to use the telluric currents of space
space
to really scare the [ __ ] out of people.
And I think the Ethical Skeptic is doing
something a little bit more genuine
where he's using ancient megaliths and
the telluric currents that come out of
Earth to try to explain
why these megaliths are around and what
they're all linked to. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> And I do think there's a lot more juice
to his theory, you know, which he's he's
really co-opted from other people, but
he's a really diligent science guy. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> I think you can tell that I don't really
think Ben is. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. >> [laughter]
>> [laughter]
>> Ben is a lawyer that knows a lot about
solar science, and I give him credit for that.
that.
But, I just I just can't get behind
you know, the way he delivers the
information that he delivers because in
my world as a neurosurgeon, I don't want
people thinking
you know, that everybody's going to die
in three or four months if you don't
listen to this stuff. And I think that's
what I tried to put out >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> in the Lex Fridman podcast so that
everybody would know, you know, I'm not
you know, a catastrophist. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> Probably the closest you'll get is I'm
probably a capital anarchist. That's why
I'm a Bitcoiner >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> because I don't like I don't like
anything that's happening in geopolitics >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> and fiat money. And the reason for that
is I don't like to see people controlled.
controlled.
Um and that should make sense. Why?
Because nature is decentralized and so
is Bitcoin.
That's that's the reason
I feel the way I do. I think anything
decentralized is the way to go.
And it's also the reason why
fundamentally have a huge problem with
AI. It's not that I'm totally anti-AI. I
just want people to understand that when
you use AI, you it centralizes
everything it touches.
So, if it centralizes what it touches,
that means it brings you closer to
Rockefeller medicine or Rothschild
banking and I'm out on that. I'm I'm
very clear. I'm telling you my biases
up front that I do not like
centralization and I don't think it's
optimal for health or wealth.
But I don't want you to think
that the magnetic excursion that we're
in right now um
um
is something that I think you truly need
to start prepping for. Do I think you may
may
have to think about where you live a
little bit differently
than you probably did if you followed me
say 6 months or 12 months ago? Yes,
because I do think it's changed you
know, the three-legged stool that I
always teach people about, which is
light, water, and magnetism. So, I think
right now magnetism is by far
the number one leg of the stool. Why?
For only one reason, because it's the
one variable that's changing the most.
The eat be light from artificial light.
But now it's not.
And it turns out that when magnetism changes
changes
it actually in my view, I don't know how
you want to follow up questions with
this, but the two things that I told you
before about NAD and oxygen being the
boundary conditions of your inner
mitochondrial membrane
magnetism changes them the fastest.
And the reason why is this one here gets
deuterated, so it becomes NAD D plus. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> And this one is the most interesting
one. This one tells you
the reason why oxygen isn't how the
biochemists sell it to you. Everybody
thinks oxygen is oxygen is oxygen. It
turns out the ground state of oxygen on
Earth is paramagnetic. That means the
two electrons spin up.
Um when you have a magnetic excursion or
a decline
you get antiparallel spins in oxygen.
What the happens?
Uh oxygen becomes diamagnetic. What does
that mean? Paramagnetic versus
diamagnetic. I'll explain it to you your
audience very easily and to you
and then I think you'll understand why
it's a big deal. Um
Um
you're from physics you learned a long
time ago in third, fourth, fifth grade.
Michael Faraday has a law when you have
an electric current, electrons running
through, which is what the inner
mitochondrial membrane is,
it induces a magnetic field. That
magnetic field can be used to turn
things. Well, on the inner mitochondrial
membrane, I think everybody knows the
cytochromes basically are a giant
electron chain.
Most people know it as the electron
chain. It carries a 30 million volt
charge. But the fourth cytochrome has
this interesting thing that spins. It's
called an FO head.
And that is where the magnetic flux of
this system comes out. Now, when it's
working optimally you get it at 9,000
revolutions per minute, but when we put this
this
chain up again, what draws the electrons
from NAD
to oxygen? It turns out it's the
electronegativity of paramagnetic oxygen.
oxygen. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> And then what happens? Paramagnetic
oxygen is drawn to anything that has a
magnetic field, which is that spinning
head. So, this raises the point. If you
live in a place like, let's say,
Argentina or Brazil
and the magnetic flux is reduced by 66%
what does it do to paramagnetic oxygen?
It turns it to singlet oxygen.
Singlet oxygen isn't drawn to a spinning head.
head. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> Fact, singlet oxygen is the thing that
all the retards that are in functional
medicine tell you kill you. It's
oxidative biology. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> That though, triplet state oxygen
doesn't do that.
That has been the ground state of life
for 540 million years
since the Cambrian explosion.
So, guess what? When that changes and
and now we have hardcore evidence
you know, that it does. Anybody who's
not a [ __ ] can go on the internet right
now and find out that it's true what I'm
saying that the North Pole has gone from
Canada to Siberia since December 21st 2012.
2012.
That presents a big problem for biology. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> And that's the reason why
having the discussion
about magnetism makes sense because it
turns out say if you work out in indoor
gym and you do it in shoes that are
rubber, you just made your magnetic
um how shall we say sovereignty even
worse. That means you're favoring
destructive forms of oxygen. So, that
means that exercise can be a toxin.
And that is totally counterintuitive
to what everybody believes. But when you
actually understand the biophysics of
it, you go
wow, I need to understand this because
this has huge implications and it really
plays a huge role if uh you happen to
live in one of these places where
there is a magnetic decline. So, that's
that's the reason why
that discussion needs to happen.
>> I agree. There's a a saying that I love
uh when the plant's sick, you don't
change the plant, you change the
environment. And you look at the soil,
you look at the light, you look at the
water. And it's funny [clears throat]
cuz it's like
we're just complex plants in a sense.
And so, I love that you touched on that
piece about exercise. That's something
that I've been hammering on for years in
my own transition of like stopping to
think, you know, putting on plastic
clothes and then this Wi-Fi headpiece to
go into a blue-lit box to work out on
rubber. Like it just is [ __ ]
mind-blowing how counterintuitive that
is to health versus like just go for a
walk outside, you know, you're going to
get more benefit from that.
>> Well, you'll be surprised how many
people online will actually argue with you.
you.
>> Right. Well, for sure. Cuz
>> you know, I I will tell you like Peter
Attia, who, you know, is one of Rick's [laughter]
[laughter] >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> He famously said on a podcast with a guy
named Chris Williamson
that if you can't do a hundred push-ups,
the EMF from Apple AirPods in your ear
don't matter. Like like you have to
realize this guy has an MD. Now, he
never finished his residency. So, I I I
can't say that he's an authoritarian
uh expert in anything cuz he's got
incomplete Rockefeller education. Some
people may actually even say that's a
good thing. But Peter and I are
diabolically opposite on this topic. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Why? Because anybody who wears those
Apple iPhones effectively is deuterating
the water table in their head. I mean,
most people don't realize these AirPods
connect this way. They don't go around
your head. They go right through your
head. And it turns out right through
your head where your ears are, your
external auditory canal,
there's a place between your third and
fourth ventricle. And there's a very slim
slim
uh aqueduct there called the aqueduct of Sylvius.
Sylvius.
That's the Venturi effect. You actually
Everything that you think about with
wine vortexing actually happens in your CSF.
CSF.
Well, if you disrupt that through these
Apple iPods in your head, you
effectively deteriorate the water table
in your brain. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> So, you actually become a [ __ ] by
doing this. And, you know, I've I've
been you know, I'm pretty saucy. You
probably know that online.
>> Salty dad.
>> I've actually told people
that this is one of the reasons why you
shouldn't hire Peter Attia, cuz he's not
smart. He's not wise. And the advice
that he gives is bad enough, but when
you actually layer the biophysics on it
and you look at it and you factually
check what I'm telling you,
then you go, "Wow,
it's really bad." And remember, you
know, I tried to do the podcast with
Rick, and Rick was cool about talking
about my advice to him before his heart
surgery with
the use of methylene blue, and Peter
Attia was the one that told him that I
was crazy. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. >> So,
>> So,
what I try to explain to people
is you need to vet your experts really
well. And who's packing your parachute
matters, and I I think
just as I tried to highlight
the astronaut for you before,
uh as a good place for you to understand
the difference between pharma and
physics, I think Peter Attia defines
Rockefeller pharma medicine, and I
define the biophysics on the other side. >> Yep.
>> Yep.
>> So, I think when you see our two
opinions and you understand the
perception where it's coming from, then
you'll understand why we see things so differently.
differently.
>> Yeah, I totally agree with that. And,
you know, how ironic even more the
emails that come out with Attia.
And it's just like
>> I don't think it's ironic. I actually
think it makes a lot of sense if you
think about it, why? >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Because those people were the people
that centralized Rockefeller medicine.
Do you want to know the funny part?
I mean, I've laid this out in podcast already.
already.
The uh GLP-1 craze
directly comes from Epstein.
And remember, this is somebody who Peter
Attia looked up to, uh took care of as a
patient. Uh the email the DOJ emails are
clear on that. When you understand that
Epstein was hired by Rockefeller to biohack
biohack
the human genome project to find out
everything he could about chromosome 2,
then we find out on the Bitcoin side
he does the same thing through MIT math
and physics department.
Begin to see that they're protecting not
only their medical franchise, but also
their monetary franchise. Why? Because
let's face it, you follow the money in
anything, you're going to be led down a
path and here's the point that I made to
you earlier.
Epstein is just like AI, he's a
centralizing force. But he was
centralizing force for Rockefeller in
medicine and the Rothschilds in banking
and the DOJ emails clearly show that he
was also paid
by the Rothschilds $25 million a year.
So, when you actually see this in the framework
framework
I think, unfortunately, since we're
talking more about health, I don't think
people really understand
that when you bring up these emails,
there's actually a teleologic
good explanation of why
these emails should matter and who you
hire for your experts.
And I think
when you understand that decentralized
thinking encapsulates not only biology
but also the thermodynamics of decentralized
decentralized
things like nature and and, you know,
monetary issues I think this is kind of
a a good walk for people
to really understand cuz I always tell
people, don't believe a thing that comes
out of my mouth. I want you to to don't
trust me, verify it. But once you verify
it, then you have a duty to go out and
tell people, look, this is actually true."
true."
>> Right. I agree, and that's that's where
I'm at. And yeah, ironic not necessarily
the right word, but when when that
someone sent that to me, one of my guys
on my team, I'm like, "Of course. Are
you surprised that, you know, like of
course that makes absolute sense?"
>> were surprised though, to be honest.
>> Right, right. Yeah. Well, you know,
people in your group
>> surprised cuz I don't think they
realized the implications. Most people
would just say, "Oh, this is just,
you know, one rich guy paying a doctor a
lot of money
to take care of him." I I don't see it
that way.
>> No way, bro.
>> I see it I see it a little bit differently
differently >> Agreed.
>> Agreed.
>> because I happen to know
what Epstein was paid to do in 1983 with
chromosome 2.
And like I said, that leads directly to
the leptin melanocortin pathway. And
that's a pathway that Peter Attia knows
nothing about at all.
And that's also by design. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> Um it doesn't surprise me
why Epstein would seek him out to make
sure he kept him as dumb as possible >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> that he would be
as popular as popular could be
so that he would keep people using peptides,
peptides, >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> GLP-1s,
>> GLP-1s,
and all the, you know,
fruitful profiteering that comes from
the Rockefeller bag of tricks and big pharma.
pharma.
>> Totally. Yeah, I agree with that. That
you connected some dots there for me,
too, with his history. I didn't know
about that his work with the chromosome
2. And and that now it just makes even
more sense, you know, cuz
>> Yeah, he was hired by David Rockefeller.
You You remember when I went off um
um
on the Danny Jones podcast about Cat
Casey and Cali Means? And I told you >> Yep.
>> Yep.
>> that their dad worked directly for David
Rockefeller. Well, that group of people
is called the Council on Foreign
Relations, the Atlantic Society. So,
here's the most interesting link, you
know, to
Epstein. Uh in 1983, when he was 30
years old, he was made a charter member
of the CFR
without ever going through the formal
process. He was also added to the
Trilateral Commission. Why was that
done? So that he could get direct access
to the people that were at MIT and
Harvard running the Human Genome Project
because David Rockefeller's family had a
specific goal. That goal was to find out
everything you could about chromosome 2
because the family's biotech wing
started in 1940
and did all the work through MK Ultra,
through light, but also wound up with glyphosate
glyphosate
um in 1975, and that's what they used to
deteriorate the food empire of the
United States. That's the reason why
people in the United States get fatter
and the people in Europe don't. Most
people think it's, you know, the food.
They blame it on this, you know, the the
garbage pail term that most people talk
about is processed food. That's true,
but they have no idea the process was
putting deuterium in it. And here's the
craziest part of the story,
you know, from 1983 to now, we now have
scientific papers that show if you feed
any human deuterium,
uh brown fat, which is right back here
in the back of your neck as a baby,
turns into white fat. You feed them more
deuterium, the white fat then divides
and becomes more fat.
Okay? So, in other words, they knew
s- really since about 1970
that deuterium does this. They buried
it, and then what did they do?
They came up with a new class of drugs
to try to take all the [snorts] fat
people and try to make them skinny, but
without ever telling you the deuterium
story. That is the reason why
they hired Epstein,
Epstein,
and it's also the reason why they banned
my TED Talk when it first came out
because they thought >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> I was going to unleash this dragon about
the leptin melanocortin pathway
when I gave the talk in 2011. And it
turned out I was a little bit too smart
for that. I didn't really release that dragon
dragon
until I got on that podcast with Rick
and Huberman. That's part of the reason why
why um
um
I never really wanted to do that because
I knew it'd put a target back on me. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> And um
that though that's what's made probably
the last three or four years of my life
kind of interesting. >> [laughter]
>> [laughter]
>> Yeah, I bet. I I really appreciate you
going into some of that cuz there's some
things that touched on there that were
definitely helpful for me that connected
some dots and I know there's some
relevance there for my community. My thoughts
thoughts
you know
we can go forward with this in whatever
conversation you think is most
appropriate with my kind of premises WWTJD
WWTJD
what would Thomas Jefferson do at this
point? There was a couple terms there or
there was a couple things that you said
on the LXD's podcast.
How do we defrag the lattice and how do
we get rid of deuterium? I think are two
things that I'm personally interested in
I think that tie into this to a degree
but um yeah, what what can we do?
>> The number one easy way and this assumes
that you do have good magnetic flux >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> is grounding with the sun. That like the
sun is the way we're designed
to defrag. You have to realize there's
two issues here. We already talked
uh a little bit about the first one
is the vortexing of the heart and the
blood and the CSF.
Uh the reason why a vortex works for
deuterium depletion or isotopic
fractionation you have to remember what
a vortex is and I know most people know
what a whirlpool is >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> but when you put something in there that
has a higher atomic mass, it gets pushed
out to the outside. The
>> The stuff that is less atomic mass stays
in the center. Well, it turns out in the
brain, the target is the floor of the
fourth ventricle in the center. And
that's where the vagal motor trigone is.
Why? Cuz it turns out the vagus nerve's
real goal
it's not what you were taught in medical
school, it's actually to get rid of
deuterium. And >> Crazy.
>> Crazy.
>> eventual goal
is to turn your turds through circadian
mechanism called the gastrocolic reflex
into a Bristol stool four. Bristol stool
four is when you take a dump and you
don't need toilet paper because all the
deuterium's in your turd and not in your
body. Your vagus is really important in
terms of doing that. So, when you ask me
the question about defragging, you can
use deuterium depleted water. You can do
everything possible to make the vortex
both in your heart and your brain
better. Uh some of those things are
pretty obvious like getting out in
nature and being grounded. But some of
the big ones is can you use uh tens
units on your body to be like a vagal
nerve stimulator.
>> Oh, wow.
>> buy vagal nerve stimulators that are now over-the-counter.
over-the-counter.
You can do that. And where do you put
them? You do put them on the tragus of
your ear.
Right here or your earlobe. Why? This is
where being a neurosurgeon makes a a
difference. Your external auditory canal
is innervated by a cranial nerve 10,
which is the vagus nerve. So, this is
the reason why that helps. And then
remember, you need to know depending on
on what the problem is. If you want to
improve the deuterium depletion in your
turds, the way to do that is make sure
you do your right vagus. So, you do the
right ear. The reason why is the right
and left vagus innervate innervation
pattern in humans is different. Uh the
left side uh goes around the ductus
arteriosus on the
on the aorta
and it goes a recurrent loop goes back
up to your voice box. That's the reason
why humans talk because we can actually
defrag our left side better than our
right. But, it turns out the thing that
makes your turds is more of the right
vagus nerve that runs in the
tracheoesophageal groove. So, what's
another thing you can do if you don't
want to spend the money on a vagal nerve
stimulator, you can use a tens unit and
put it in different spots where the
vagus goes. Those things easily able to
be found on a simple uh SEO search on
Yandex. Um and I do use Yandex. I don't
use Google because it's a Russian
search. So, you get much better SEO when
you do that.
And um then the next one that you could
do is say if you don't want to use
electricity, even if it's
battery-powered, you can use castor oil.
Castor oil can be placed in your belly
button on a cotton ball and then you
take one of those big Band-Aids and put
it over your belly button. Why does this
work? Well, let's think about what
happened when you were a baby. You were
connected to your mom through the
umbilical cord. The umbilical cord
leaves a scar inside your abdomen um and
it's a a flap of scar tissue that has
70,000 vagal nerve endings in it.
So, when you use hexane-free castor oil,
it is a cis chemical.
Cis meaning a chiral chemical that
mimics melanin.
So, what are you effectively doing?
You're actually making all
the electrons and oxygen spin
the appropriate way. This actually helps you
you
uh clear deuterium from your blood. Why
is that? Let's Let's talk about that.
Melanin does a lot of interesting
things. You know that we talked about
glyphosate, glyphosate being a melanin
competitive inhibitor.
Melanin actually chelates metals. Okay,
that's what it does. But, it also does
something else to deuterium. Most people
don't know that deuterium and H+ have a
different nuclear magnetic moment. This
is again back to the physics. And it
turns out the reason why we have so much
melanin not only in our skin but in our
arterial system is it keeps the
deuterium where it's supposed to be in
the blood. That's why the blood
vortexing is important. Where does the
blood vortexing come from? Evolutionary
history. Uh back in the Cambrian
explosion fish were the first ones that
started to vortex their hearts but they
only had one chamber heart so the vortex
wasn't big but it didn't matter cuz they
were swimming in electron dense water.
Then amphibians come along and they have
three chamber hearts. Three chamber
hearts made a much more chaotic vortex.
That meant you could control uh
deuterium and H+ uh more appropriately.
Then we come, the mammals, 320 million
years ago and we have four chamber
hearts. We have the most complex vortex.
But what else did mammals do? This is
the key.
Mammals use melanin to isotopically
fractionate. So you having a tan is
probably one of the key things to do
that. Turns out you always get your best
tan when you're grounded to the magnetic
dynamo. Why is that? Melanin is made
with oxygen in the triplet state.
Remember we're back to that story again.
So it turns out if you're not doing
grounding you won't get as tan as you
possibly could be. This is has huge
implications now for the people who live
in South America because you can see
wow, that means that you can't make
chiral molecules in your body. What are
some of those? Melanin, collagen, apoE.
So is this the reason why people are
getting more Alzheimer's? Is this the
reason why they're getting more
Parkinson's? Is this the reason why you
know, NFL players and athletes in gyms
are tearing their Achilles and ACLs. The
answer is
yes, because the oxygen that they're
using is singlet, not triplet. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> Well, why why is this story, to finish
up the vortex story for you, important?
Deuterium in in itself is not bad. It's
designed to be kept in the circulatory
system. So, how do mammals do that?
If you know anything about the way the
brain forms, we have these neural crest
cells, which is what melanin's part of.
It's tied to chromosome number two to a
gene called POMC.
And alpha MSH is one of the cleaved
proteins that do this. What people don't
really know well is that
neural crest cells follow collagen.
Specifically, two types. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> Elastin and fibrillin. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> Where are they found in the highest
density? In your arteries.
So, guess what?
If the collagen is bad, will the melanin
be able to follow where it's supposed to
go when neural crest cells migrate when
you're inside your mother? The answer is no.
no. >> No.
>> No.
>> Okay? So, that means that you can't
fractionate deuterium well. What does
that mean? It means deuterium leaves the
blood and goes into the cytosol of the
cell, where it affects the mitochondria.
Remember what the game of mammals is? To
keep the deuterium away from that
spinning head, because remember what we
talked about before? If that spinning
head slows down, you get disease.
So, when you understand the biophysics game
game
is to keep keep the deuterium where it's
supposed to be, in the arteries, you
begin to realize, so this is the reason why
why um
um
deuterium can be well controlled through
this process. And when you understand
that the vagus nerve
not only goes from the the fourth
ventricle, but it goes all the way down
to your transverse mesocolon, so it
covers almost every single major
arterial tree in your body. So, this
gives the brain a feedback loop so it
knows what the deuterium level is not
only in the in the heart, but in the CSF
and the arterial system. And it does
this because we have seven different
places in the brain that don't have a
blood-brain barrier and that's where the
brain is sampling the deuterium levels
the body so it it gets its own feedback
what's going on. So, this is the reason why
why
you're addicted by chromosome 2. We
talked about this earlier.
From beta-endorphin to go out and and be
addicted to the sunlight because you
need the sunlight to put the alpha-MSH
in your arterial tree to keep the
deuterium away from your nano motors
which are the FO and
and F1 head. And if you do that,
that means you keep the charge between
that 30 million volts between NAD
and triplet oxygen. That's really the
whole game. That's what I spent
18 months and $200,000 learning from
the Russian physicists.
And then, you know, over a process of
several years putting these terms
together so that I can sit down with you
in a podcast and explain to you so that
you don't have to spend $200,000
learning what I learned.
Uh you can clearly now go back and
fact-check it, but the good news for you
is everything that I've just told you in
the last probably 20 minutes, there's
now books written about all these things.
things.
You can go and read the biophysics books
and say, "Son of a bitch." Like when I
started this,
these books didn't exist and you
probably understand
why that's the case. It goes back to the
Epstein story.
Who was his girlfriend? Ghislaine
Maxwell. Who was her father? Robert Maxwell.
Maxwell.
They controlled Pergamon Press which
controls all the journals and the books
and publishers in medicine. Well, if
they didn't want this information out,
they were in the catbird seat to keep it
away. So, that's how they kept the
Flexner Report [ __ ] game, which is
why Eddie Chang said 50%. Now, you can
see why Uncle Jack said
99% because everything I just got
finished telling you,
most doctors don't learn in their
biochemistry book.
>> Yeah, nobody. Yeah, and that you put it
simply enough. I I feel like I got a
decent grasp on that. You know, we want
to keep the deuterium away from the the
cytosom, you said. So, that way
>> ATP ace, the spinning head in
mitochondria because it destroyed
>> The mitochondria only the mitochondria
in this
this wiring diagram I just showed you here,
here, >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> it's racist. It only likes H+. It
doesn't like deuterium. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> The blood is where deuterium is supposed
to stay. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> Reason why we keep it there is because
to make a vortex, you need atomic mass.
Think about it. You can't make a
whirlpool if you don't have something
with heavier atomic mass.
>> To spin it, yeah.
>> Yeah, yeah. And when you understand it
like that, you start going, "Okay, this
makes a lot of sense now." And then when
you realize that CSF, which is cerebral
spinal fluid, is an ultra filtrate of
blood, and you say, "Wait a minute,
we're spinning that too between the
third and the fourth ventricle."
Like the body is doing some pretty
amazing things. And all those amazing
things are biophysical. They're not
biochemical. And when you understand
that it's all to maintain that 9,000
RPMs in every single mitochondria in
your body, you start going,
"Okay, wait a minute. I need to understand
understand
that little wiring diagram between NAD
and oxygen."
And that's the reason why making sure
our oxygen paramagnetic is absolutely paramount.
paramount.
And the only way NAD gets deuterated is
if your water table gets deuterated
because deuterium leaks out of the blood
and goes into the cytosol and starts
that whole process. So, the question you
asked me about defragging, you can
understand 100% oxygen uh does that.
That's why anesthesiologists use it when
they defrag you when they're trying to
wake you up. Now, you can't get
[clears throat] 100% oxygen uh unless
you buy an oxygen tank. You can do it,
but that's another way to do it. A lot
of other people try to use HBO machines
and and things like that. I wouldn't do
that. One of the best ways to defrag,
which we talked about, but we didn't get
into too big, is cold thermogenesis,
which is the reason why I wrote the
protocol at the same time I wrote the
leptin prescription protocol because
when you get cold, what do you do?
You're knocking the deuterium back into
the blood and keeping it there. How else
does magnetism work with cold? Most
people know this. You don't have to be a
rocket scientist. It's called the Curie
point. And that's Madame Curie's
uh husband. Um
he won a Nobel Prize for this effect.
It's called the Curie point. Means the
colder things get, the more magnetic
they get. Now, there's a couple of ways
we can break that. I'm actually teaching
people that right now. That's how the
Mayans did it in their excursion. They
used rare earth elements in the
buildings that they built to create
these very special Faraday cages for an excursion.
excursion. >> Huh.
>> Huh.
>> That's what Tikal is. That's what
Chichen Itza is.
Uh and they were doing it for another
specific reason. All of their pyramids
were built over cenotes, and you know
what cenotes are, right? Those are their
water table. All the water for the whole
Mayan Riviera, there's no rivers. It
comes only from cenotes. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> Where do the cenotes come from? The last
extinction event, which was 66 million
years ago, from an asteroid that hit in
that area. And that's the reason why
there's rare earth elements there. Why?
Cuz they're extraterrestrial. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> So, the Mayans actually figured out how
to purify and defrag their water
using rare earth elements. Now,
Now,
I'm teaching people how to do it
utilizing the periodic table on my blog.
Why? Because it turns out if you live in
a place that's magnetically declined,
some of the things that
the Nubians, the Egyptians, the Mayans
did that seem counterintuitive to you,
you start seeing it go
So, that's the reason why we find all
these big piezoelectric stones that
people were going in, like Göbekli Tepe. Or
Or >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> you start thinking about Stonehenge
differently. You start thinking about
Easter Island differently when you find
out that all these stones were selected
and brought to an area
because the stones were piezoelectric. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> Piezoelectricity is also a biophysical term.
term.
And that allows you to turn light into current.
current.
Uh can that be used to protect you
when you have a problem? Because what is
the key problem
in a magnetic excursion that ties to the vortex
vortex
story I just gave you?
So, I'll give you my hand here.
You make believe this is the tectonic
plate. Below here is the dynamo.
Okay? When this gets weak
the atmosphere here, on the top of my
hand here
is the Van Allen radiation belt. It
comes closer to Earth when this gets
weaker. What happens in the hydrology
cycle of of Earth? More deuterium and
tritium fall into the water table where
the things that live on the planet live.
So, guess what the Mayans were kind of doing?
doing?
They were paying attention to the
telluric currents in space and the ones
coming from below,
and they were figuring out
that when aurora showed up at the 20th
north latitude that there was going to
be way more deuterium in the cenote
water and that was going to harm them. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> They figured out a pretty ingenious way
to filter their water utilizing rare
earth elements and piezoelectric blocks.
And when you see this for yourself, you realize that they're probably the
you realize that they're probably the only ancient civilization
only ancient civilization that made it through their excursion
that made it through their excursion unscathed. Why?
unscathed. Why? You can come to El Salvador, Guatemala,
You can come to El Salvador, Guatemala, and Mexico today and see Mayan people.
and Mexico today and see Mayan people. Like when you go to Africa today, you
Like when you go to Africa today, you don't see ancient Nubians. You don't see
don't see ancient Nubians. You don't see uh ancient Egyptians. And if we really
uh ancient Egyptians. And if we really take it back to the the biggest last
take it back to the the biggest last excursion, the last champ event, you
excursion, the last champ event, you don't see Neanderthals running around.
don't see Neanderthals running around. They were taken out in that event. They
They were taken out in that event. They became us. Or we became them. However
became us. Or we became them. However you'd like to to focus it, but the
you'd like to to focus it, but the remnant that that is true, several
remnant that that is true, several people out there who've done genomic
people out there who've done genomic studies with, you know, Ancestry or
studies with, you know, Ancestry or 23andMe, found out that they had
23andMe, found out that they had remnants of
remnants of Neanderthal DNA in them.
Neanderthal DNA in them. >> Yep.
>> Yep. >> And when you understand
>> And when you understand that the Neanderthals had bigger brains
that the Neanderthals had bigger brains than us, but would they shrink their
than us, but would they shrink their brains to make a bigger vortex,
brains to make a bigger vortex, it points out something that we started
it points out something that we started this podcast off with.
this podcast off with. Does having bigger muscles really mean
Does having bigger muscles really mean longevity? Well, it turns out if you
longevity? Well, it turns out if you look at the brain,
look at the brain, it's exactly the opposite. Neanderthal
it's exactly the opposite. Neanderthal brain shrunk and we do better than them
brain shrunk and we do better than them because we make a bigger vortex. It
because we make a bigger vortex. It actually he out the same thing
actually he out the same thing that I'm trying to point out to you.
that I'm trying to point out to you. Having bigger muscles is actually a
Having bigger muscles is actually a thermodynamic
thermodynamic um
um anchor. It's not a good thing to do.
anchor. It's not a good thing to do. >> Austia.
>> Austia. >> Especially true when you're in an area
>> Especially true when you're in an area that the magnetic flux is not great. You
that the magnetic flux is not great. You can't vortex, you know, in your heart or
can't vortex, you know, in your heart or you can't vortex in your CSF. And it
you can't vortex in your CSF. And it sounds counterintuitive until we have a
sounds counterintuitive until we have a discussion like this.
discussion like this. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> You start going, "Wow, I never saw how
>> You start going, "Wow, I never saw how these things really connected."
these things really connected." >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. >> And I I know that if you ever listen to
>> And I I know that if you ever listen to Peter Attia's podcast, you'll never get
Peter Attia's podcast, you'll never get this information because he doesn't
this information because he doesn't understand
understand any of the physics behind it. And I
any of the physics behind it. And I think since we're currently in
think since we're currently in our magnetic excursion and we've been in
our magnetic excursion and we've been in it since probably 1859,
it since probably 1859, it's probably pretty smart for you to
it's probably pretty smart for you to pick up at least some of these concepts
pick up at least some of these concepts and, you know, do your own due diligence
and, you know, do your own due diligence and learn about, "Hey, what can I do to
and learn about, "Hey, what can I do to defrag myself?"
defrag myself?" >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. >> Like, for example, on
>> Like, for example, on on Amazon now, you can go out and buy
on Amazon now, you can go out and buy copper rings. You may not know this, but
copper rings. You may not know this, but I'll give you a a history lesson cuz you
I'll give you a a history lesson cuz you may dig this.
may dig this. You remember the Carrington event
You remember the Carrington event happens in 1859.
happens in 1859. In 1860s, we have this big
In 1860s, we have this big toxic problem in France called
toxic problem in France called phylloxera. Kills all the old ancient
phylloxera. Kills all the old ancient root stocks of the fancy wines. And you
root stocks of the fancy wines. And you know, you know that one of the first
know, you know that one of the first growth wines, it's called Mouton
growth wines, it's called Mouton Rothschild. What did the Rothschilds do
Rothschild. What did the Rothschilds do back when this happened?
back when this happened? Uh
Uh wine grows great in clay. Clay is very
wine grows great in clay. Clay is very dense, which you know.
dense, which you know. The water that fell down from that CME
The water that fell down from that CME that hit us deuterated the water fields.
that hit us deuterated the water fields. That's actually the real reason
That's actually the real reason the plants died. So, how they solve for
the plants died. So, how they solve for X?
X? The smart French, not the Rothschilds,
The smart French, not the Rothschilds, um they actually started to put copper
um they actually started to put copper rings in the vines. And they found out
rings in the vines. And they found out that copper was another way for them to
that copper was another way for them to keep the plants alive. Who took that
keep the plants alive. Who took that information in the early uh 20th century
information in the early uh 20th century to its nth degree? Who was taken out by
to its nth degree? Who was taken out by the Rockefellers? A a Russian physicist
the Rockefellers? A a Russian physicist called Lakhovsky.
called Lakhovsky. And what did he start doing? He made
And what did he start doing? He made these incomplete copper rings and he
these incomplete copper rings and he would go into hospitals from about 1925
would go into hospitals from about 1925 to 1942,
to 1942, and he placed these
and he placed these rings and these vortexes on people and
rings and these vortexes on people and magically they would start to get
magically they would start to get better.
better. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. >> Well, magically he got run over by
>> Well, magically he got run over by somebody who worked for the Rockefeller
somebody who worked for the Rockefeller paradigm in 1942 in New York City.
paradigm in 1942 in New York City. Who took up
Who took up the science from there? A guy named Slim
the science from there? A guy named Slim Spurling, later in the 20th century. He
Spurling, later in the 20th century. He started to make copper rings that were
started to make copper rings that were fully closed, and he started to do some
fully closed, and he started to do some really interesting things with you know,
really interesting things with you know, copper and vortexing water, things that
copper and vortexing water, things that he picked up from Viktor Schauberger.
he picked up from Viktor Schauberger. >> Right.
>> Right. >> found that there's a big effect there.
>> found that there's a big effect there. So,
So, this company on Amazon now has started
this company on Amazon now has started to make these necklaces and bracelets
to make these necklaces and bracelets that are made out of copper that mimic
that are made out of copper that mimic Slim Spurling's rings, but now they're
Slim Spurling's rings, but now they're infusing them with rare earth elements,
infusing them with rare earth elements, specifically neodymium magnets.
specifically neodymium magnets. >> Sure.
>> Sure. >> So, when I told you I just went came
>> So, when I told you I just went came back from Europe cuz I spoke at a
back from Europe cuz I spoke at a Bitcoin conference in Prague,
Bitcoin conference in Prague, on that trip, all the people in my
on that trip, all the people in my family wore these necklaces around their
family wore these necklaces around their neck. Why? Cuz it creates an implosion
neck. Why? Cuz it creates an implosion effect on your vagus nerve so that you
effect on your vagus nerve so that you can vortex while you're in space. How
can vortex while you're in space. How did I know to do that? Turns out the
did I know to do that? Turns out the Russians started to do that for their
Russians started to do that for their cosmonauts in 1971.
cosmonauts in 1971. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> So, when you actually see the science
>> So, when you actually see the science from the space program show up with
from the space program show up with these events that happened in the 20th
these events that happened in the 20th century, and then you realize that the
century, and then you realize that the Russians started to use CO2
Russians started to use CO2 differently than the United States space
differently than the United States space center, and it turns out CO2 is a
center, and it turns out CO2 is a magnetic gas.
magnetic gas. Carbonated water is another way for you
Carbonated water is another way for you to defrag
to defrag your degraded water table. So, you may
your degraded water table. So, you may be shocked to hear what the Russians
be shocked to hear what the Russians did. They took all the astronauts on
did. They took all the astronauts on their tectonic planet in the '50s and
their tectonic planet in the '50s and '60s, and they started to put all these
'60s, and they started to put all these free water stations that were carbonated
free water stations that were carbonated everywhere in the Eastern Block.
everywhere in the Eastern Block. And what were they doing? They were
And what were they doing? They were seeing the effect on their own
seeing the effect on their own population before they changed
population before they changed the Russian space
the Russian space capsules, and what did they do? They
capsules, and what did they do? They started to use another Russian scientist
started to use another Russian scientist you may have heard of,
you may have heard of, Buteyko breathing.
Buteyko breathing. Buteyko was a a Russian physiologist
Buteyko was a a Russian physiologist that used more CO2, and he took big-time
that used more CO2, and he took big-time advantage of the Bohr and Haldane effect
advantage of the Bohr and Haldane effect that goes directly to the
that goes directly to the electromagnetic flux that I told you
electromagnetic flux that I told you about that makes paramagnetic oxygen go
about that makes paramagnetic oxygen go there. What was the whole point
there. What was the whole point of this Russian story? They were trying
of this Russian story? They were trying to improve
to improve uh
uh magnetic flux in the capsule after their
magnetic flux in the capsule after their cosmonauts died in 1971.
cosmonauts died in 1971. Who ironically gave him that idea?
Who ironically gave him that idea? Robert O. Becker.
Robert O. Becker. And his cancer work.
And his cancer work. And who canceled him? DARPA, the
And who canceled him? DARPA, the American side of the story. So, when you
American side of the story. So, when you actually
actually see the pieces and parts of this whole
see the pieces and parts of this whole story, and you go,
story, and you go, "So, we can actually buy these copper
"So, we can actually buy these copper magnetic things now and use this when
magnetic things now and use this when we're flying." Just remember, what is
we're flying." Just remember, what is jet lag? What did I just teach you in
jet lag? What did I just teach you in this podcast, whether you know it or
this podcast, whether you know it or not?
not? jet lag and a magnetic excursion are one
jet lag and a magnetic excursion are one in the same. Why? Think about it. I told
in the same. Why? Think about it. I told you before that the dynamo gets
you before that the dynamo gets weakened, Van Allen belts come down.
weakened, Van Allen belts come down. Well, what happens when you're on the
Well, what happens when you're on the tectonic you go up in the air.
tectonic you go up in the air. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> the same thing, don't you?
>> the same thing, don't you? >> You're right.
>> You're right. >> Which which means you're deuterating and
>> Which which means you're deuterating and tritiating yourself when you fly. So,
tritiating yourself when you fly. So, what does that mean if you're smart?
what does that mean if you're smart? Maybe I should protect myself and
Maybe I should protect myself and increase my vagal flux when I'm flying
increase my vagal flux when I'm flying >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. >> and maybe I won't get jet lag.
>> and maybe I won't get jet lag. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. >> Okay?
>> Okay? Well, guess what? That's exactly what
Well, guess what? That's exactly what Uncle Jack did when he flew to Czech
Uncle Jack did when he flew to Czech Republic. I was perfectly fine when I
Republic. I was perfectly fine when I got there.
got there. >> Did you
>> Did you >> [clears throat]
>> [clears throat] >> Eat anything? No.
>> Eat anything? No. >> No.
>> No. >> Did I wear the jewelry? Yes. Did I look
>> Did I wear the jewelry? Yes. Did I look at any of the screens that were in first
at any of the screens that were in first class in front of me? No. All of those
class in front of me? No. All of those things do to deuterate your water table
things do to deuterate your water table when you're flying.
when you're flying. And you're designed not to eat. Why? Cuz
And you're designed not to eat. Why? Cuz Remember I told you about chromes
Remember I told you about chromes cytochrome one to oxygen. The more you
cytochrome one to oxygen. The more you eat, the more action goes across there.
eat, the more action goes across there. Why is this important for you to
Why is this important for you to understand?
understand? The Japanese lost a $1 billion satellite
The Japanese lost a $1 billion satellite when they flew it through the SAA, which
when they flew it through the SAA, which is the South Atlantic Anomaly,
is the South Atlantic Anomaly, in 1996. And you know what they found?
in 1996. And you know what they found? They found because they left the
They found because they left the computers on and electrons are moving,
computers on and electrons are moving, the deuterium and tritium that the the
the deuterium and tritium that the the unit flew
unit flew flew through fried it.
flew through fried it. So, when I heard that,
So, when I heard that, I wrote a long time ago a jet lag
I wrote a long time ago a jet lag prescription
prescription that Ben Greenfield asked me to write.
that Ben Greenfield asked me to write. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. >> And one of the things that's in it said
>> And one of the things that's in it said you should always fast. You can drink
you should always fast. You can drink water, but try to drink carbonated water
water, but try to drink carbonated water when you do it. You probably know now
when you do it. You probably know now why I said that.
why I said that. >> Totally.
>> Totally. >> But the reason you don't want to eat is
>> But the reason you don't want to eat is because you need to turn your satellite
because you need to turn your satellite off,
off, >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> your mitochondria, when you're flying
>> your mitochondria, when you're flying and you're going through it with
and you're going through it with you know, these areas. And when you see
you know, these areas. And when you see this for yourself, you're going
this for yourself, you're going So, Jack has been kind of telling us
So, Jack has been kind of telling us this biophysics the whole way through.
this biophysics the whole way through. Like, all these acts of defragging,
Like, all these acts of defragging, they're out there in his blogs. They're
they're out there in his blogs. They're out there in the things he's writing.
out there in the things he's writing. The problem is
The problem is we're too [ __ ] to understand what
we're too [ __ ] to understand what really what he's saying.
really what he's saying. >> Hey, yeah.
>> Hey, yeah. It takes a while.
It takes a while. >> And then when you do podcasts like this,
>> And then when you do podcasts like this, and people see your logic and your
and people see your logic and your reasoning, they go
reasoning, they go Is this really survival of the fittest
Is this really survival of the fittest or is it survival of the wisest?
or is it survival of the wisest? >> Correct.
>> Correct. >> Peter Peter will tell you it's survival
>> Peter Peter will tell you it's survival of the fittest. I think in your podcast,
of the fittest. I think in your podcast, I've pretty much laid the case
I've pretty much laid the case that it's survival of the wisest,
that it's survival of the wisest, especially when
especially when the planetary magnetic field is going
the planetary magnetic field is going wonky a little bit. Especially when
wonky a little bit. Especially when you know, we have governments giving us
you know, we have governments giving us LED bulbs and taking incandescence away.
LED bulbs and taking incandescence away. Especially when we have big Agra and
Especially when we have big Agra and Rockefeller medicine poisoning the water
Rockefeller medicine poisoning the water table with deuterium through
table with deuterium through a variety of different ways.
a variety of different ways. And when you begin to see that your goal
And when you begin to see that your goal as a decentralized mitochondrion
as a decentralized mitochondrion is to optimize light, water, and
is to optimize light, water, and magnetism, and understand what that
magnetism, and understand what that truly means,
truly means, I don't think the game is that hard to
I don't think the game is that hard to get.
get. >> Right.
I agree. I I agree with you completely. It's so funny about the fasting thing
It's so funny about the fasting thing when flying. I've been I've been telling
when flying. I've been I've been telling my tribe that for years, and mainly just
my tribe that for years, and mainly just from direct experience of my own
from direct experience of my own noting. When you're tuned in, when your
noting. When you're tuned in, when your system's clean and clear,
system's clean and clear, you you can pick up on a lot of this
you you can pick up on a lot of this stuff. Your body will tell you. You'll
stuff. Your body will tell you. You'll get the information. And like, what's
get the information. And like, what's the definition of fitness? In my mind,
the definition of fitness? In my mind, it's
it's fit to adapt, you know? Like, wisest, I
fit to adapt, you know? Like, wisest, I totally agree. Fitness is your capacity
totally agree. Fitness is your capacity to adapt to the environmental demands,
to adapt to the environmental demands, and that doesn't mean absolute strength,
and that doesn't mean absolute strength, you know? Like, it's wisest, I totally
you know? Like, it's wisest, I totally agree, is actually the the marker of
agree, is actually the the marker of fitness.
fitness. >> Well, you actually know that the
>> Well, you actually know that the Neanderthals were stronger than us and
Neanderthals were stronger than us and they're extinct.
they're extinct. >> Right.
>> Right. >> Way stronger, yeah.
>> Way stronger, yeah. >> That that really should
>> That that really should actually hammer the meathead paradigm
actually hammer the meathead paradigm that's out there, but it doesn't. Why?
that's out there, but it doesn't. Why? Because
Because you have to realize
you have to realize Rockefeller science is on their side.
Rockefeller science is on their side. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. >> You have to know that as the user, the
>> You have to know that as the user, the end user. If you don't um then some of
end user. If you don't um then some of the things that I say, like and you
the things that I say, like and you don't understand the context, you think
don't understand the context, you think I'm crazy.
I'm crazy. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. >> It turns [clears throat] out I'm not
>> It turns [clears throat] out I'm not crazy. I've done more homework on this
crazy. I've done more homework on this than anybody walking this planet for the
than anybody walking this planet for the last 25 years. And trust me, I didn't
last 25 years. And trust me, I didn't believe a goddamn thing that I believed
believe a goddamn thing that I believed today 25 years ago.
today 25 years ago. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. >> I would have said it was crazy. But
>> I would have said it was crazy. But after going down the rabbit hole and
after going down the rabbit hole and questioning what I was taught
questioning what I was taught um I basically do these podcasts to
um I basically do these podcasts to explain to people
explain to people if I could do it as a centralized
if I could do it as a centralized neurosurgeon, you can certainly do it as
neurosurgeon, you can certainly do it as well.
well. And I don't think it's as hard as
And I don't think it's as hard as everybody thinks it is.
everybody thinks it is. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. Yeah. It's just time and effort put
Yeah. It's just time and effort put forth. I mean, I used to be that
forth. I mean, I used to be that meathead guy. I was your prototype Chad
meathead guy. I was your prototype Chad 12, 15 years ago. Like I was that guy
12, 15 years ago. Like I was that guy and I've rewired my whole approach for a
and I've rewired my whole approach for a lot of great reasons and I've you know,
lot of great reasons and I've you know, had a lot of great support and teachers
had a lot of great support and teachers like you on the path, but you know, I've
like you on the path, but you know, I've even heard you mention in the movement
even heard you mention in the movement space Erwan Le Corre as another great
space Erwan Le Corre as another great example of moving more in the direction.
example of moving more in the direction. For me, like I'm a pragmatist in a lot
For me, like I'm a pragmatist in a lot of ways where it's practical application
of ways where it's practical application of the skill. Like what are you going to
of the skill. Like what are you going to do with all of that meat, you know? Like
do with all of that meat, you know? Like I fit to function, fit to serve your
I fit to function, fit to serve your community. And I don't know if there was
community. And I don't know if there was a a closing note we could loop into
a a closing note we could loop into this, you know, the two things that I
this, you know, the two things that I wanted to come into was what can the
wanted to come into was what can the individual do and we we nailed some
individual do and we we nailed some really good points, some stuff I haven't
really good points, some stuff I haven't heard you talk about in the ways that
heard you talk about in the ways that you have before and then also,
you have before and then also, you know, if you want to, you know, tie
you know, if you want to, you know, tie in or just, you know, speak to the
in or just, you know, speak to the community. Say you've got a group of
community. Say you've got a group of savages, you got a group of
savages, you got a group of mitochondriacs, what can the community
mitochondriacs, what can the community do in ways to kind of move the needle?
do in ways to kind of move the needle? You know, I saw your Cribs episode of
You know, I saw your Cribs episode of the Costa del Sol property and I'm doing
the Costa del Sol property and I'm doing something really similar here. I'm in
something really similar here. I'm in six acres of a pine tree forest and
six acres of a pine tree forest and we're, you know, I I think trying to
we're, you know, I I think trying to create these little nodes, these healing
create these little nodes, these healing spaces for people to come and and
spaces for people to come and and reconnect and learn this stuff over a
reconnect and learn this stuff over a period of time cuz it takes time to
period of time cuz it takes time to figure it out. And so, what would what
figure it out. And so, what would what would be your message to the community?
would be your message to the community? >> I think uh focusing on light, water,
>> I think uh focusing on light, water, magnetism, it's still true that seeing
magnetism, it's still true that seeing the sunrise is is incredibly important,
the sunrise is is incredibly important, but you have to do it
but you have to do it grounded to a place that really allows
grounded to a place that really allows grounding. Like I I need to explain to
grounding. Like I I need to explain to you, grounding is a synonym for magnetic
you, grounding is a synonym for magnetic flux. You have to become magnetically
flux. You have to become magnetically sovereign in the changes on the planet.
sovereign in the changes on the planet. And then, I think the water side is the
And then, I think the water side is the easiest part. Most people can go and
easiest part. Most people can go and spend money to to improve their water.
spend money to to improve their water. The two ways to do that, if you're lazy,
The two ways to do that, if you're lazy, you just go buy water from high
you just go buy water from high latitudes. If you're a savage, you go
latitudes. If you're a savage, you go get primary water that comes deep out of
get primary water that comes deep out of the earth
the earth that is not deuterated and it's not been
that is not deuterated and it's not been polluted by the surface water level
polluted by the surface water level water. That's what the uh
water. That's what the uh the people in in Europe used to do. Like
the people in in Europe used to do. Like all those big castles that are in
all those big castles that are in Germany that are on rocks, realize they
Germany that are on rocks, realize they used wells from primary water sources.
used wells from primary water sources. If you want to learn a little bit about
If you want to learn a little bit about primary water, look up a guy named
primary water, look up a guy named Stefan Reese. He's in blogs that I've
Stefan Reese. He's in blogs that I've written about recently.
written about recently. His work has been buried also through
His work has been buried also through the Rockefeller Foundation and uh a
the Rockefeller Foundation and uh a specific group in California
specific group in California called the Wonderful Company. They they
called the Wonderful Company. They they want to make sure you never learn about
want to make sure you never learn about this.
this. Um it's a real important thing and just
Um it's a real important thing and just to I guess finish this up why drilling
to I guess finish this up why drilling your own wells important. This is
your own wells important. This is probably one of the coolest things I can
probably one of the coolest things I can tell you because it still exists today.
tell you because it still exists today. In the middle of the Mojave Desert,
In the middle of the Mojave Desert, which you know that I would not be a big
which you know that I would not be a big fan of you building a citadel.
fan of you building a citadel. This guy Stefan Riess went there, looked
This guy Stefan Riess went there, looked at all the maps, and he was a dowser as
at all the maps, and he was a dowser as well. So, he was very intuitive. He told
well. So, he was very intuitive. He told the owner of this land that if they went
the owner of this land that if they went down 672 ft, they would hit primary
down 672 ft, they would hit primary water. So, this guy spent the money,
water. So, this guy spent the money, drilled down there
drilled down there in the middle of the Mojave Desert, a
in the middle of the Mojave Desert, a city was born called California City.
city was born called California City. It's still there today, close to 100
It's still there today, close to 100 years after this guy did what he did.
years after this guy did what he did. So, this is a community
So, this is a community in a desert in California that doesn't
in a desert in California that doesn't use any of the Colorado River water that
use any of the Colorado River water that comes, which is completely deteriorated
comes, which is completely deteriorated and filled with natural fluoride.
and filled with natural fluoride. The reason I mentioned this to you, it
The reason I mentioned this to you, it tells you
tells you that one of the things I do think you
that one of the things I do think you should spend your Bitcoin for
should spend your Bitcoin for is to make sure that your water source
is to make sure that your water source is pure. If
is pure. If you can afford to drill a well that deep
you can afford to drill a well that deep cuz it will cost some money,
cuz it will cost some money, you have to realize this water will
you have to realize this water will continue on. Some of these wells that he
continue on. Some of these wells that he drilled are still operational
drilled are still operational in the desert in the Middle East. Like
in the desert in the Middle East. Like the Saudi royal family brought him over.
the Saudi royal family brought him over. And for those of you think that this is
And for those of you think that this is nonsense,
nonsense, if you listen to other podcasts that
if you listen to other podcasts that I've done, I tell a story about
I've done, I tell a story about President Bukele telling about a lot
President Bukele telling about a lot that his family wanted to buy as a
that his family wanted to buy as a coffee finca, and everybody tried to
coffee finca, and everybody tried to talk him out of it cuz he didn't have
talk him out of it cuz he didn't have good water. And I famously looked at the
good water. And I famously looked at the topological maps and I told him if you
topological maps and I told him if you drill down deep enough, you will find
drill down deep enough, you will find primary water, you'll probably find rare
earth elements, and you'll probably find a lot of gold. And guess what? When he
a lot of gold. And guess what? When he did it, he found all three.
did it, he found all three. So, when you understand
So, when you understand that primary water, just like oil, is a
that primary water, just like oil, is a renewable resource of tectonics, you
renewable resource of tectonics, you begin to realize that the story you've
begin to realize that the story you've been told by the Rockefellers to call it
been told by the Rockefellers to call it fossil fuels to make you think it's rare
fossil fuels to make you think it's rare or scarce
or scarce is also false. We naturally make water
is also false. We naturally make water through the process of tectonics. We do
through the process of tectonics. We do the same thing with oil. Your goal in an
the same thing with oil. Your goal in an excursion
excursion is to find that water in your local
is to find that water in your local environment. And even if you have to
environment. And even if you have to pool your money with people, I think
pool your money with people, I think it's a smart maneuver to do. Um most
it's a smart maneuver to do. Um most people have been told things that I've
people have been told things that I've said in the last year. You know, go go
said in the last year. You know, go go buy high latitude water, find yourself a
buy high latitude water, find yourself a spring that's high latitude. The problem
spring that's high latitude. The problem is um
is um people like the wonderful company,
people like the wonderful company, they're making that really difficult for
they're making that really difficult for people to do, especially in places like
people to do, especially in places like California.
California. And you need to actually be smarter than
And you need to actually be smarter than them. So, having a good primary source
them. So, having a good primary source of water is really important. And I
of water is really important. And I think if I could highlight what this
think if I could highlight what this gentleman did,
gentleman did, uh cuz he died 1985. A lot of people
uh cuz he died 1985. A lot of people don't know about him.
don't know about him. Um the powers that be in the United
Um the powers that be in the United States are trying to monetize water,
States are trying to monetize water, just like they're trying to monetize
just like they're trying to monetize everything else.
everything else. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> When you begin to understand that water
>> When you begin to understand that water is one of the legs of the stool,
is one of the legs of the stool, never miss a sunrise,
never miss a sunrise, really elevate your water, and make sure
really elevate your water, and make sure you're grounded and you're magnetically
you're grounded and you're magnetically pinned. You do that,
pinned. You do that, and I think
and I think those are the the best things that one
those are the the best things that one can do to stay away from the sausage
can do to stay away from the sausage grinder.
grinder. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. You mentioned one thing, too, um
You mentioned one thing, too, um just to add this on
just to add this on in regards to the magnetism
in regards to the magnetism conversation. You said Hawaii was not
conversation. You said Hawaii was not ideal, especially you mentioned
ideal, especially you mentioned specifically uh Mauna Kea, Big Island,
specifically uh Mauna Kea, Big Island, Oahu. Could you just elaborate on that a
Oahu. Could you just elaborate on that a little bit more and any any
little bit more and any any >> pretty simple.
>> pretty simple. For anybody
For anybody anybody who doesn't know their geology
anybody who doesn't know their geology history, this is all published on my
history, this is all published on my website for free. So, if you go to the
website for free. So, if you go to the forum, it's there.
forum, it's there. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. >> But, this is what a lot of people don't
>> But, this is what a lot of people don't know.
know. I told you that there's been 500
I told you that there's been 500 excursions and five extinction events.
excursions and five extinction events. But, what we didn't talk about is when's
But, what we didn't talk about is when's the last time
the last time a magnetic flip has been known to occur
a magnetic flip has been known to occur on Earth?
on Earth? It was 780,000 years ago.
It was 780,000 years ago. That's before the Cambrian explosion.
That's before the Cambrian explosion. It's 240 million years before complex
It's 240 million years before complex life. So, what does that mean? It means
life. So, what does that mean? It means that bacteria and archaea are the only
that bacteria and archaea are the only living things on this planet that have
living things on this planet that have navigated multiple flips.
navigated multiple flips. Eukaryotes have not.
Eukaryotes have not. So,
So, where was Hawaii located in the last
where was Hawaii located in the last flip? This may stun you. It was the
flip? This may stun you. It was the South Pole, where Antarctica is now.
South Pole, where Antarctica is now. So, how do you know this? When my kid,
So, how do you know this? When my kid, my son,
my son, was 6 years old, I took him to the
was 6 years old, I took him to the Kīlauea volcano that was actively
Kīlauea volcano that was actively erupting,
erupting, and we flew over it, and I brought a
and we flew over it, and I brought a compass. And I said, "I'm going to teach
compass. And I said, "I'm going to teach you something you should never forget."
you something you should never forget." And when we put the compass and we flew
And when we put the compass and we flew right over Kīlauea, the compass just
right over Kīlauea, the compass just kept spinning. It didn't show where
kept spinning. It didn't show where North or South Pole was. And my son
North or South Pole was. And my son looked at me and goes, "Dad, why is
looked at me and goes, "Dad, why is this?" I said, "Because
this?" I said, "Because that spot was made in the last
that spot was made in the last um magnetic pinning, which is before the
um magnetic pinning, which is before the flip. The whole island of Hawaii used to
flip. The whole island of Hawaii used to be the South Pole.
be the South Pole. Then, I took him down to the Big Island
Then, I took him down to the Big Island and right next to Kilauea,
and right next to Kilauea, and he saw the same effect happen.
and he saw the same effect happen. I said, "So, just realize that if Ben
I said, "So, just realize that if Ben Davidson or The Ethical Skeptic are
Davidson or The Ethical Skeptic are correct, and we are, just say, the
correct, and we are, just say, the Mayans may have been right,
Mayans may have been right, that we are in a true
that we are in a true uh flip,
uh flip, Hawaii is the last place you want to be,
Hawaii is the last place you want to be, bro, cuz it might be
bro, cuz it might be close to the South Pole."
>> What's the timeline on that? Like, how long do I have until I move to El
long do I have until I move to El Salvador?
Salvador? >> Nobody Nobody knows. That See, this is
>> Nobody Nobody knows. That See, this is the the thing that upsets me about
the the thing that upsets me about Davidson and not so much The Ethical
Davidson and not so much The Ethical Skeptic.
Skeptic. Davidson's telling everybody it's
Davidson's telling everybody it's happening, you know, right here, right
happening, you know, right here, right now. This is the time.
now. This is the time. >> Right.
>> Right. >> But, I will tell you this, if you look
>> But, I will tell you this, if you look at the the history of Earth, cuz we can
at the the history of Earth, cuz we can tell from rocks' magnetic hysteresis,
tell from rocks' magnetic hysteresis, that we are way overdue for a flip,
that we are way overdue for a flip, probably by about 300,000 years. So, the
probably by about 300,000 years. So, the answer is
answer is it's a big deal, and
it's a big deal, and I think as the data keeps coming in,
I think as the data keeps coming in, uh we need to pay attention to that. The
uh we need to pay attention to that. The one thing I will tell you about this
one thing I will tell you about this topic, I do have a reverence for the
topic, I do have a reverence for the Mayans, not for the reason that you
Mayans, not for the reason that you probably think.
probably think. It's because they were, in the history
It's because they were, in the history of Earth, everything that I've studied,
of Earth, everything that I've studied, the most accurate timekeepers on the
the most accurate timekeepers on the planet. Right. Why? Because they were
planet. Right. Why? Because they were astronomers, and they paid attention to
astronomers, and they paid attention to the telluric currents in the ground. So,
the telluric currents in the ground. So, they paid attention to both places.
they paid attention to both places. And their calendar, called the long
And their calendar, called the long calendar,
calendar, spans about 26,000 years. And what did
spans about 26,000 years. And what did they they notice about 2012? They
they they notice about 2012? They noticed that three things happened at
noticed that three things happened at that time.
that time. And those three things all line up
And those three things all line up with us, meaning the Milky Way galaxy
with us, meaning the Milky Way galaxy flying through
flying through um
um a very deuterated part of the galaxy.
a very deuterated part of the galaxy. And they thought that this was a huge
And they thought that this was a huge problem.
problem. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. >> Um
>> Um the three things that are against us now
the three things that are against us now also happen to do with
also happen to do with wobbles in Earth and also solar cycles
wobbles in Earth and also solar cycles that one couldn't predict. And their
that one couldn't predict. And their belief that at least modern people have
belief that at least modern people have ascribed to them
ascribed to them is that the end of the world would
is that the end of the world would happen on December 21st, 2012. That's
happen on December 21st, 2012. That's what um you know people like Peter Attia
what um you know people like Peter Attia would tell you.
would tell you. I'm not telling you that. I believe it's
I'm not telling you that. I believe it's a process
a process that began at that time. And if you look
that began at that time. And if you look at the movement of the North Pole from
at the movement of the North Pole from December 21st, which is the winter
December 21st, which is the winter equinox, and what was going on in Venus
equinox, and what was going on in Venus and Jupiter at that time,
and Jupiter at that time, you'll begin to notice that something
you'll begin to notice that something interesting started on Jupiter, too. The
interesting started on Jupiter, too. The red spot on Jupiter and the South Pole
red spot on Jupiter and the South Pole hexagon
hexagon >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. >> also changed on Jupiter. What does that
>> also changed on Jupiter. What does that tell you?
tell you? That the Mayans belief that the Milky
That the Mayans belief that the Milky Way is now going through
Way is now going through a different part of space is showing up
a different part of space is showing up on the most magnetically
on the most magnetically obvious thing in the solar system that
obvious thing in the solar system that we can see,
we can see, which they looked at through El Caracol.
which they looked at through El Caracol. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. >> [clears throat]
>> [clears throat] >> They knew with precision because they
>> They knew with precision because they were equinox people
were equinox people >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. >> that the process would really begin the
>> that the process would really begin the magnetic North Pole moving.
magnetic North Pole moving. The key
The key in their
in their uh issue in the long calendar is you
uh issue in the long calendar is you need to see when you see
need to see when you see uh CMEs or aurora show up in the
uh CMEs or aurora show up in the tropics. That happened for the first
tropics. That happened for the first time in 2024 at the 18 North latitude.
time in 2024 at the 18 North latitude. Uh and it happened in the 12th uh South
Uh and it happened in the 12th uh South latitude in Brazil.
latitude in Brazil. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. >> In in May of '24. so I'm going to tell
>> In in May of '24. so I'm going to tell you
you that the North Pole has been moving 55
that the North Pole has been moving 55 km a year. That's radically different
km a year. That's radically different than what's going on since the
than what's going on since the Carrington event.
Carrington event. So,
So, I have a reverence for the Mayans
I have a reverence for the Mayans because I think they were warning us
because I think they were warning us that
that the most likely time that a magnetic
the most likely time that a magnetic flip will happen will be sometime after
flip will happen will be sometime after 2012. Do I think it's going to be,
2012. Do I think it's going to be, you know, 25 years, 50 years, 100 years?
you know, 25 years, 50 years, 100 years? There's no way to know because we have
There's no way to know because we have evidence on Earth.
evidence on Earth. For example, the longest one was almost
For example, the longest one was almost 50 million years. That was the KT, uh,
50 million years. That was the KT, uh, not KT, but the Permian extinction. We
not KT, but the Permian extinction. We know that that was a huge magnetic
know that that was a huge magnetic excursion. Then there's other evidence
excursion. Then there's other evidence that a magnetic excursion happened in
that a magnetic excursion happened in one day. That's the one that Ben
one day. That's the one that Ben Davidson wants to sell you on.
Davidson wants to sell you on. I'm not so sure
I'm not so sure uh, the answer is going to be 50 million
uh, the answer is going to be 50 million years or one day, but I can tell you
years or one day, but I can tell you this.
this. The Earth history tells us it's going to
The Earth history tells us it's going to happen. Mhm. And the thing is, the
happen. Mhm. And the thing is, the reason I don't spend a lot of time
reason I don't spend a lot of time talking about the flip is because if the
talking about the flip is because if the flip happens, we're done. It makes no
flip happens, we're done. It makes no sense to talk about it. What makes way
sense to talk about it. What makes way more sense
more sense is to look at what the Mayans did during
is to look at what the Mayans did during their excursion and their 4,500 years.
their excursion and their 4,500 years. They were able to survive it and I think
They were able to survive it and I think that that's what we're in. We're in
that that's what we're in. We're in We've lost 9%
We've lost 9% of the Earth's magnetic shield in the
of the Earth's magnetic shield in the last 10 years.
last 10 years. So, when you look at that slope of that
So, when you look at that slope of that line, that's pretty [ __ ] steep. Like
line, that's pretty [ __ ] steep. Like we don't have
we don't have anything in the geologic history
anything in the geologic history that we can marry to. So, looking in
that we can marry to. So, looking in human history is really ridiculous. The
human history is really ridiculous. The best thing we can do
best thing we can do is look at the mega-megalithic sites
is look at the mega-megalithic sites that don't make sense and you'll find
that don't make sense and you'll find they all have links to paramagnetic
they all have links to paramagnetic stones
stones uh and protection schemes that would
uh and protection schemes that would have protected life while humans were
have protected life while humans were alive.
alive. And do I believe that the Mayans did it
And do I believe that the Mayans did it better than anybody else? Yeah, so I
better than anybody else? Yeah, so I think what I'm teaching people now
think what I'm teaching people now is you want to optimize light, water,
is you want to optimize light, water, and magnetism the way the Mayans did it.
and magnetism the way the Mayans did it. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm. >> Okay? That's the real answer I'm giving
>> Okay? That's the real answer I'm giving you. That's the reason why you know, I'm
you. That's the reason why you know, I'm talking about wearing these
talking about wearing these coil rings with rare earth elements in
coil rings with rare earth elements in it. It's the reason I'm talking to
it. It's the reason I'm talking to people about rare earths. I think it's
people about rare earths. I think it's the reason why Trump is interested in
the reason why Trump is interested in the tip of Greenland. Why?
the tip of Greenland. Why? The highest level of rare earth elements
The highest level of rare earth elements on Earth
on Earth >> Yep.
>> Yep. >> are sitting right there at the tip of
>> are sitting right there at the tip of Greenland, and that is primary crust,
Greenland, and that is primary crust, meaning it's 4 billion years old. It's
meaning it's 4 billion years old. It's never been touched by man. Why? Cuz it's
never been touched by man. Why? Cuz it's always been under ice. So, when you
always been under ice. So, when you understand
understand what might be going on, I think this is
what might be going on, I think this is kind of science
kind of science that you want to pay attention to. It's
that you want to pay attention to. It's easy to follow. This is where I do give
easy to follow. This is where I do give Ben Ben uh
Ben Ben uh Davidson some credit. Like, go watch his
Davidson some credit. Like, go watch his YouTube videos. He has some interesting
YouTube videos. He has some interesting things to say. You should really pay
things to say. You should really pay attention to the sun and the solar
attention to the sun and the solar rather. Why? Because when a CME is
rather. Why? Because when a CME is headed our way, if you are living in
headed our way, if you are living in Hawaii and you see one,
Hawaii and you see one, it's probably time for you to move
it's probably time for you to move to El Salvador or move someplace where
to El Salvador or move someplace where you can be magne- magnetically pinned
you can be magne- magnetically pinned on a volcano. And remember, the
on a volcano. And remember, the volcanoes that are right behind me here,
volcanoes that are right behind me here, they were made 65 to 80 million years
they were made 65 to 80 million years ago
ago when the North Pole was the North Pole
when the North Pole was the North Pole as it is now.
as it is now. So, you get an accurate reading. And And
So, you get an accurate reading. And And it turns out if we do get a flip, it
it turns out if we do get a flip, it doesn't matter where you are on the
doesn't matter where you are on the planet, you're probably toast.
planet, you're probably toast. >> Correct.
>> Correct. >> you're getting an excursion,
>> you're getting an excursion, boy, this matters quite a bit. It
boy, this matters quite a bit. It matters a lot
matters a lot because if you don't pay attention, you
because if you don't pay attention, you could wind up like our cousins the
could wind up like our cousins the Neanderthals.
>> This is great, Jack. Thank you so much, man. I think that's a good spot to wrap
man. I think that's a good spot to wrap up right there. Thanks everybody for
up right there. Thanks everybody for listening. Check the show notes. I'll
listening. Check the show notes. I'll drop some links for Jack. Anything
drop some links for Jack. Anything um to direct people to for you, Jack?
um to direct people to for you, Jack? >> No.
>> No. >> Cool. All right. Well, I'll drop some
>> Cool. All right. Well, I'll drop some links for you guys below and appreciate
links for you guys below and appreciate you guys tuning in. Drop any comments if
you guys tuning in. Drop any comments if you have them and make sure to go follow
you have them and make sure to go follow Jack with the links that I provide
Jack with the links that I provide below. Take care, everybody.
below. Take care, everybody. >> All right. Take care.
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